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WCEpi/r/seduction27/05/16 06:13 AM
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WCEpi/r/seduction11/06/16 11:18 PM
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That's a good way to put it. A girl appreciates you takin initiative in approaching and setting up dates. But sex is supposed to be an adventure. There's supposed to be a build up of tension and then a release. You can't just bypass the tension and try to get the release.
/r/seduction30/11/16 07:37 AM
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Basically you want the girl to be both attracted to you and comfortable with you before you get the number. So if pure asking for a number within 10 minutes, you're setting yourself up for failure. You need to talk to her. She needs to laugh. You need to look her in the eyes the whole time. You need to tease her. You need to swap stories, you need to demonstrate some value, and she needs to qualify herself (basically demonstrate value to you). And you need to touch her. And not in a creepy way e…
/r/seduction30/11/16 07:33 AM
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Thanks for the advice man. It seems like a lot of relationship advice out there is very AFC in nature. I guess I can't go wrong with Mark Manson non-needy and vulnerable approach.
/r/seduction30/11/16 07:27 AM
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In what setting is this? If you're flirting with all of your friends' friends, then you're killing your social proof. At a club/bar, it's fine. Try being less direct. You shouldn't really be getting rejected. How can you get rejected if you're just trying to be a social guy and have conversations? The worst you should get is a girl saying she doesn't want to talk right now. But most girls wil be receptive to someone who just genuinely wants to talk, joke, be a part of the group, and have fun. Yo…
/r/seduction30/11/16 06:14 AM
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I post here so that I can reflect and then put my actions into writing. It really helps me understand just what I'm doing and replicate it. I've been better at recognizing situations and acting appropriately because of the advice I give here. They say teaching is the best way to master something.
/r/seduction30/11/16 06:09 AM
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That's needy. Needy is bad. You're coming off as a horny dude in need of a lay. If you're a Chad, you might get away with it. But these girls probably get lots of male attention. They're not gonna hop on some horny dudes dick just because he expressed interest. So yes, too forward. Try asking them on a date instead. Your interesting personality, your confidence, and your kino are what is going to make them want to fuck you.
/r/seduction30/11/16 06:06 AM
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A lot of guys get a girls number and then place their focus on her. They don't go out and get more numbers because they'd rather lay around waiting for her to text back. I understand not having abundance, but you probably shouldn't be putting any of your eggs in any baskets if you don't have at least 2 baskets. The newbies need to learn about abundance mentality before they can Actually create abundance. .
/r/seduction30/11/16 04:12 AM
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You don't have to do it in person. When you get the number, the next step is to get the date. That's what texting is for, logistics.
/r/seduction30/11/16 12:45 AM
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I mean, what are you doing besides having casual conversation? Are you asking for the number? Are you asking girls on dates? Are you using kino? Are you making eye contact? You don't just have a conversation and then everything works out. You have to escalate the interaction into something more. Tell us about a few recent interactions, and maybe we can find a sticking point.
/r/seduction29/11/16 11:13 PM
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The Game Models Book of Pook
/r/seduction29/11/16 05:48 PM
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Just going off your example, it sounds like you didn't take this girl on any dates. You studied with her? You talked to her? You friend zoned yourself, but continued to show what was probably obvious interest. And you're talking about having conversations through text. You can't show her who you are through text. Text kills personality. That's how you get ghosted. If you get the number, ask them on a date. Stop trying to game through text, and stop trying to be her buddy. But most importantly, r…
/r/seduction29/11/16 05:44 PM
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This is perfect. You can have a real conversation, without letting it dry up due to too much texting.
/r/seduction29/11/16 05:46 AM
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That sounds good. The first pic should be a solo pic that's shows you off. The next should be either adventurous, demonstrate social proof by including your friends and girls, or include your dog lol. There should be a few Tinder posts around if you search for them.
/r/seduction29/11/16 02:43 AM
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The reflect on what you did to make her feel that way, and try again with the next girl. Seduction isn't really about getting a singular girl, it's about getting girls. So even though you become a man who is attractive to girls, you won't be attractive to all girls. You next those girls who you can't click with.
/r/seduction29/11/16 01:02 AM
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You are correct. You won't get far without kino. So you can learn it or fail/settle my dude. Luckily, there's plenty of info out there! Just search kino and PUA on Google.
/r/seduction28/11/16 11:57 PM
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There's a million other girls out there who will fuck you. Why settle for a sketch situation?
/r/seduction28/11/16 11:51 PM
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It's always appropriate unless she pulls back. Humans communicate both verbally and non verbally. Some psychologists argue that we communicate why we mean through no verbal cues 90% of the time. You're hugging her because you're excited to see her. You're touching her arms because what she said was really interesting and you're intrigued. You're brushing against her because you're comfortable in her presence. And you're kissing her because she turns you on. If at any point she pulls back, then y…
/r/seduction28/11/16 11:47 PM
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Make sure you have her number. Don't text too much, but don't wait too log between texts either. So do your thing for hours at time, but also text her consistantly and have engaging conversations. Joke around and flirt, I would keep it light hearted. Save the vulnerable stuff for pillow talk. You should also try to escalate in the latter half. See if you can't get some sexting going. Or just wait and don't text her at all until she's in town. Up to you.
/r/seduction28/11/16 11:43 PM
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You need to ask a lot more questions before you get to that point. First off, the date needs to go really well. And it's probably not happening in the first or second date. The most important thing is kino. You need to be escalating THROUGHOUT the date, not at the end. You should have hugged/kissed her to say hello (depending on what date it is and if you've kissed her already). You should have been looking her in the eyes the entire time. You should have been playing games with her hands, teach…
/r/seduction28/11/16 11:16 PM
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You're going to have to take her on dates if you want to fuck her. It doesn't have to be dinner, not that it matters at all. She's going to ask you what you want from her ether before or after you fuck her. At that point, you tell her the truth. Simple as that.
/r/seduction28/11/16 07:23 PM
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Lol damn, you come here crying about a girl and all you need to do is read between the lines to get some helpful advice. Instead you decide to mouth off and say, "I don't wanna fuck chicks," in a seduction sub. Hahahaha what a bitch. You're what we call an AFC (average frustrated chump). The good news is you can change. I won't judge, you're young. Good luck
/r/seduction27/11/16 10:59 PM
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Yep, you just have to practice. It gets easier.
/r/seduction27/11/16 08:32 PM
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We don't do it naturally because we're nervous. We ascribe some significance to the interaction. In an interaction we don't care as much about, we can communicate naturally. We're basically reminding ourselves to act naturally. This is why "naturals" are so good at getting girls. Not everyone starts as a "natural." The more you practice approaching, the less intimidating the situation feels, and the closer to a "natural" you'll become.
/r/seduction27/11/16 07:54 PM
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Where are you getting this nice guy/asshole dichotomy? You should read The Book of Pook. Here's the audio: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vBLjaN9NDMQ
/r/seduction27/11/16 04:58 PM
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Humans communicate through a variety of means. Some psychologists argue that 90% of our communication is through non verbal cues. Kino is not about touching, it's about communicating your interest and desire. You let her know that you're astounded by her story by touching her arm. You let her know that your fun, spontaneous, and goofy by teaching her a handshake. You turn your body towards her to let her know you're engaged in the conversation. You brush her leg to let her know that her warmth m…
/r/seduction27/11/16 04:50 PM
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You want her back? Really?? Fine, here we go. Go to the gym. Get big. Get a promotion. Go out with some friends. Meet new people. Fuck some hot chicks. Go surfing. Learn a language. Learn guitar. Play a sport. Live and laugh. Have fun. At the end of that process, you'll either have her back or you won't care anymore. You think any girl wants to get back with some needy sad cunt who can't gain 10lbs on his bench press because he's too busy searching the Internet for tricks to win her back? Fuck n…
/r/seduction26/11/16 10:59 PM
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Fuck what everyone else does. The divorce rate is 50% and the cheating rate is probably higher. We don't do what all the other frustrated chumps do. Don't worry about her or your phone when you're focusing on you. This is how you remain being the prize.
/r/seduction26/11/16 10:55 PM
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Why are you worried about a girl with a boy friend? A Don Juan doesn't try to steal girls from other dudes. He knows there's a million hotter and better girls out they're and he's the prize to be won.
/r/seduction26/11/16 10:51 PM
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If you're doing it right, they don't have a clue. If you're doing it wrong, it's blatantly obvious.
/r/seduction26/11/16 04:29 PM
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Stop. You can help it. Stop telling girls you like them. They're not gonna tell you they like you back. They'll tell you they like you after you fuck them. Just stop.
/r/seduction25/11/16 11:04 PM
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If you want to hang out Sunday then ask her tonight. Set up a time and place to meet. Then tell her you're about to meet some friends and have to go, but that you're looking forward to Sunday. Then don't text her until Sunday to let her know you're about to head to the meeting place. Texting is for logistics. You text to set up dates and that's it. Once you fuck her, you can pretty much text whatever and whenever you want, as long as its not needy.
/r/seduction25/11/16 10:59 PM
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You might not be able to easily. That's the kind of girl you want, and there's nothing wrong with that. But you can stop acting needy. You're in control of your actions. Don't act a certain way and let your feeling be an excuse. Anger is not an excuse to assault people. Fear is not an excuse to abandon your family or your dreams. And infatuation is not an excuse to be needy.
/r/seduction25/11/16 10:57 PM
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Good luck dude! Let us know how it goes. Make sure you suggest a time and place when you ask, not just, "wanna go out sometime?" Be specific, if she's truly busy, she'll suggest a different time. Don't confess you have a crush. Don't tell her you think she's pretty. Just ask her if she'd like to do X on X day at X time. Stand up straight, make eye contact, and smile. You got this!
/r/seduction25/11/16 10:53 PM
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Still in what context? Does she send you that out of the blue, or in response to something you say? Generally speaking, if you've been friends with a girl for more than a couple of weeks and you haven't asked her on a date, kissed her, or even held her hand, then you're friend zoned. If you're unsure, just ask her on a date. You'll know immediately what the answer is. And there's no other way honestly. There's no tricks, tips, or secrets to making her like you. The only thing you can do is ask h…
/r/seduction25/11/16 06:29 PM
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In what context? If you tell a girl she's hot and she says this, then yes, you're friend zoned. If you rescue a puppy and she says this, then you're the man.
/r/seduction25/11/16 06:02 PM
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You're his side chick. He keeps coming around because of how casual the situation is.
/r/seduction25/11/16 06:01 PM
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Non stop eye contact and kino!
/r/seduction25/11/16 05:58 PM
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The problem is time wasting. Many girls would gladly be entertained by a text conversation even though they have no intentions of meeting in person. So guys will waste hours texting or messaging on Tinder before asking for a date only to get flaked on or ghosted. Also, guys have trouble discerning between a quality text conversation and needy behavior. Some girls have better things to do all day than text a guy they barely know, if you respond 2 minutes after they take hours or if you double tex…
/r/seduction25/11/16 05:44 PM
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But almost every post in that thread mentions getting laid from Tinder? The OP is almost the only person complaining. I guess it has a lot to do with location. I'd imagine small towns not having many matches. I get at least a few matches a week. I take advantage of my super likes. And then I message them all at once every few weeks with my signature opener. Usually get a few responses and 1-2 dates. And once I get the date it's on. It's definitely not a get laid every night type of thing, but it…
/r/seduction25/11/16 05:33 PM
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I'm sorry you're frustrated. That's not the experience of many guys in this community though.
/r/seduction25/11/16 05:09 PM
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Lol you're very easily offended my dude. This is very needy/reactive behavior.
/r/seduction25/11/16 05:06 PM
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First off, try waiting a couple of days. Act like you've got something g better to do than text some girl you just met.
/r/seduction25/11/16 05:03 PM
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Well you're not gonna get any matches with a shirtless pic unless you're model status so there's your first fuck up lol. Think of Tinder as a bar. It's a place where there's an abundance of women to approach. You find many attractive, and a decent percentage of them also find you attractive. So you open some of them, and a decent percentage reciprocates conversation. You manage to number close a small percentage. And you manage to get a date with some of those number closes. Very analogous. But …
/r/seduction25/11/16 05:02 PM
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You're clearly clueless.
/r/seduction25/11/16 04:54 PM
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The post isnt about getting a date though. It's about saying, "U want some fuck bby," and then getting laid. Some really attractive model status guys can probably get away with it. The rest of us need to score the number, then the date, and then f close in the usual fashion.
/r/seduction25/11/16 03:27 PM
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I'm very skeptical about how hot these girls were. Why would a hot girl getting 20 messages a day fuck some guy who sends her a sexual opener? He was either really hot, or the girls were really not. It's not really a good general strategy. Also I don't know where that post is lol. Sorry man.
/r/seduction25/11/16 03:39 AM
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Or, you think you're doing these things, but your subconsciously expressing what you actually feel. Like, of course a girls only going to text you once if you're not texting her first ever. Shes not gonna say hey 3 times in a row.
/r/seduction25/11/16 03:37 AM
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I guess. That would have no effect on the results of the study though.
/r/seduction25/11/16 02:36 AM
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Why do people keep saying this? Just because it's the first thing you hear in high school science doesn't mean you need to keep posting it on Reddit. The PhD holding authors know this when they write the papers. The correlation is interesting though. And there is likely some causal pathway, even if it is through some confounding variables.
/r/seduction25/11/16 02:36 AM
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No, the "masculine norms" were the independent variables that were used to predict poor mental health. So having a "strong desire to win" is associated with poor mental health.
/r/seduction25/11/16 02:30 AM
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Tell her to hang out with this guy on her own time.
/r/seduction25/11/16 02:27 AM
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I can't really explain how to make eye contact without just saying make eye contact. Do it. And don't stop. When he looks at you, don't stop. When he looks away, converse, eat, do your thing, and then look at him again. Many times when I've hooked up with girls in my social circle, they say they though I was staring at them. If they're attracted to you, they'll appreciate the thought of you checking them out.
/r/seduction24/11/16 09:21 PM
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Sounds pretty creepy my man. If that was my line of work, I would keep it separate from my love life. But only you know what's going on I guess.
/r/seduction24/11/16 09:17 PM
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Well you fucked up with the meme. Send her a text Saturday to solidify the logistics, and text her Monday night briefly to let her know it's still on; for example, "see you tomorrow at 8!" Texting is for setting up dates and logistics at first. Once you're fucking her, you can pretty much text whatever you want as long as it's not needy.
/r/seduction24/11/16 06:22 PM
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"Game is a myth. Simply learn this, this, and this (game) and you're good!"
/r/seduction24/11/16 06:18 PM
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A common misconception is that Game or Seduction is about making individual girls become attracted to you. In reality, Game/Seduction is about making yourself attractive and creating/capitalizing on opportunities.
/r/seduction24/11/16 04:38 PM
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The same way you'd approach in any daygame situation. If you're not familiar with that, check out the sidebar and do some reading!
/r/seduction24/11/16 04:33 PM
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A year? What kind of crazy bitches are you dating lol. Just kidding man, there's lots of better girls out there and you're the man. Enjoy the single life.
/r/seduction24/11/16 05:33 AM
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The difference between Style's Oneitis and yours is that they hung out together and you two probably don't. Your Oneitis is in your head, his Oneitis was in his bed. But if you can't step up and fuck some other chicks, just ask her out. Either she'll say yes or she'll say no and then you can move on with your life.
/r/seduction24/11/16 05:27 AM
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Dude, who hurt you?
/r/seduction23/11/16 04:22 PM
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Put your dick in her consistently. Limit your Netflix and chill days, and go out instead. In fact, never suggest that you stay in and chill. If she suggests it, that's fine, but you take her on adventures. Don't go out to the same spots. Use Google to find some places you find interesting, tell her to meet you at your place, then take her somewhere she's never been. Go on actions dates such as; hiking, working out, bowling, skating, the park, camping, swimming etc. Every date should be an opport…
/r/seduction23/11/16 02:28 AM
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The good news is if you can get a girl talking about herself, you're in good shape. What I do is try to relate a story about myself to something that the girl says. So if she tells me about how creepy some guys are, I tell her about the stalker I once had years ago. If she talks about her crazy outdoor experience, I tell her about a hiking experience where I got lost. If I ask what her favorite music is, she tells me a band I know, I mention that I saw them at a music festival and tell her somet…
/r/seduction23/11/16 02:24 AM
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The only reason you should be long distance dating is if you're married or in a long term relationship and have to travel for your career or something along those lines. You don't progress a relationship over long distances. If your game is tight, your girl is cool, and you're very lucky, you can maybe maintain an existing relationship. If that's the case, you should already know your dynamic as a couple, just don't be needy. If this is not about an LTR, move on and meet some girls nearby.
/r/seduction23/11/16 02:19 AM
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Nope. Time to move on.
/r/seduction23/11/16 01:15 AM
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That's called settling and it leads to a 50% divorce rate and a growing demand for mental health professionals. Do yourself a favor and don't settle.
/r/seduction22/11/16 04:22 PM
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Couples don't play hard to get, they've already been got. That girl you just met at the bar whose number you scored and who you're trying to fuck? She'll play hard to get because she doesn't know you. For all she knows, you're saying and doing exactly what you think will get you laid in the shortest time possible, and she might be right. There's a million other guys out there that also think she's hot and want to fuck her, that doesn't make you special. She needs to know if you're the real deal,…
/r/seduction22/11/16 02:45 PM
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What would you do if a friend of yours was crying? You put your dick inside of this girl. At the very least she's an aquintance. Empathizing a little did not cause you to become comfortable in a shitty relationship. The two are unrelated. You can be a decent human being and still be alpha.
/r/seduction22/11/16 07:51 AM
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I think you need to read The Book of Pook again. It doesn't seem like you got the message.
/r/seduction22/11/16 07:45 AM
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You're right. She might be a "one."
/r/seduction21/11/16 11:22 PM
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Not in a way that leads to success, as you just demonstrated.
/r/seduction21/11/16 09:27 PM
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You didn't really tell us anything about your game. Can you approach women confidently? Do you manage to get their numbers? How many of those numbers turn into dates? Do you get a second and third date? We need to find your sticking point for you to progress. Being a sociable person is good, but it doesn't matter if you're not taking action.
/r/seduction21/11/16 09:25 PM
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Fuck 10 other chicks first. If you still like this girl, then she might be the one and you should man up and tell her. Or better yet, stop falling for your friends. You don't like her. She's just the only girl you think you have a chance with because she's already in your life. What, you think this girl that you never hang out with alone is going to decide to be your girlfriend because you tell her that you're into her? She does not think of you in that way. Move on. And read Models by Mark Mans…
/r/seduction21/11/16 09:21 PM
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You asked a bunch of questions with no concise topic. Try reading Models by Mark Manson.
/r/seduction21/11/16 09:19 PM
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What do you mean work? Think of dating apps as a bar. It's a place to meet people. The only thing that will determine if you get a girlfriend or not is you my man. You should definitely try Tinder though.
/r/seduction21/11/16 05:47 PM
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You're right. And that has nothing to do with anything lol
/r/seduction21/11/16 05:53 AM
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Just ask. She's an adult, she knows that she can refuse. She probably has more practice turning guys down than you'd like to imagine.
/r/seduction21/11/16 03:38 AM
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Hahah you're right. I guess the correct response would be that he's never ever ever going to fuck Nicki Minaj.
/r/seduction21/11/16 03:37 AM
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It's not a bold statement, it's the truth. Why come here and ask for advice if you're not going to accept what you receive? Don't you think we might know better than you?
/r/seduction21/11/16 03:05 AM
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I'm 23 and plenty of 18-20 year olds want to fuck me. Girls like mature guys. Act like one.
/r/seduction21/11/16 03:01 AM
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What do you mean how do you find the time? Sit down, and write out your schedule. See those open time periods on Friday and Saturday nights when you would usually be jerking off? There's your times. When Friday comes around, get your ass up and go to a bar. Approach 10 girls and try to have a conversation with them. Repeat this every week until you achieve your desired results. Also, read Models by Mark Manson. Audible has a free 30 day trial with one free book. Models is a must read in your cas…
/r/seduction21/11/16 03:00 AM
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This is called Oneitis. A terrible disease that makes men believe that their happiness hinges on a specific woman. We don't help people to get the girl causing their Oneitis. That's because there is no way to get your Oneitis except to move on and become a better person. So forget about these stupid thoughts in your head, and become the best you that you can be.
/r/seduction21/11/16 02:56 AM
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Are you attractive? What does your bio say? What pictures are you using? Tinder isn't magic.
/r/seduction21/11/16 02:36 AM
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It doesn't matter at all. Not one bit. Forget about her until you're in a position to actually meet up with her. Then offer her than opportunity. Either she'll accept or decline/ghost you. Then go from there. But stop worrying about it right now. No she does not like you, she doesn't know a single thing about you.
/r/seduction21/11/16 02:34 AM
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You should just call and ask her on a date right now.
/r/seduction20/11/16 08:54 PM
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Being proactive, making yourself better, and kino are pretty damn universal.
/r/seduction20/11/16 08:41 PM
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I mean you're not a needy nice guy, right? The worst that can happen is she rejects you and your relationship stays the same. There's no reason it should ruin your friendship.
/r/seduction20/11/16 08:40 PM
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There's no logic behind what you just said.
/r/seduction20/11/16 08:38 PM
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I get laid while people here are trying to break down the intricacies of emojis.
/r/seduction20/11/16 04:54 AM
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Cringey as fuck my man. Try reading Models by Mark Manson.
/r/seduction20/11/16 03:36 AM
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Dude, do you really think girls are so interested in you that they're sitting around scheming?
/r/seduction20/11/16 03:25 AM
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Lol fuck those guys. Do you feel threatened? You shouldn't. Next time your gf mentions it, laugh. Fucking LAUGH OUT LOUD. Then say, "those guys again, I feel bad for them." Then move on with your conversation and life. Your gf will realize that you're the prize worth keeping, and those guys will not be getting laid.
/r/seduction18/11/16 03:37 PM
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The YouTube guys show you how they get the number. They don't tell you what happens after. Getting a response and a date is dependent on the rapport you build before getting the number. In my opinion, be direct can allow you to get the number without building that rapport. The YouTube guys don't build any rapport (I'm generalizing), so I doubt they get anything after they film the number/kiss close.
/r/seduction18/11/16 03:29 PM
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I mean I wouldn't. 1. It's much less likely to work than being indirect. 2. Do you think those YouTube pick up guys ever have meaningful relationships with those girls in the videos? Forget about that though, because that's not the situation you're in. You're not opening. Doing that now is needy.
/r/seduction18/11/16 02:13 PM
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Never settle. Failure is not ending up alone. Failure is sitting at your dining table with a scotch reading the divorce papers wondering where it all went wrong.
/r/seduction18/11/16 10:55 AM
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You stop. Good thing you had consent before hand, maybe she won't fuck you up. I would delete this thread if I were you fuck boi
/r/seduction18/11/16 10:52 AM
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It's needy. But we all do it, and luckily girls don't see this lol. Just put your phone somewhere out of site and out of mind for 30-60 minute intervals. If a girl texts back within 5 minutes, you can have a conversation. If not, put that shit away and do something productive.
/r/seduction18/11/16 10:48 AM
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Show don't tell. If you find yourself needing to confess your feelings, it's too late.
/r/seduction18/11/16 10:46 AM
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Sure but there's a big difference between being introverted and being shy. It's okay to be introverted, but if you accept being shy, you'll find it hard to meet people and to get women to open up to you.
/r/seduction18/11/16 02:53 AM
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The point of texting isn't to "set a foundation." Texting is for setting up dates. That means you need to lay the "foundation" when you get the number. You should be talking to these girls for between 10 minutes to 2 hours before you ask for their number, depending on how into you they are. They're supposed to like you, and be expecting your call/text to continue the connection that you started. Texting girls you barely know out of the blue is what girls like to call "weird" and/or "creepy."
/r/seduction18/11/16 12:16 AM
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Girlfriend dumps me, fuck a bunch of chicks, she tells me she loves me, fuck her, dump her, the end. It doesn't matter whether your oneitis ever comes back around or not. The fact is, the only chance of that happening is if you become a better you. Once you do that, she'll either want you back or you won't care anymore. But remaining stagnant will not only push her away, but also prevent you from fucking other chicks as well.
/r/seduction17/11/16 11:58 PM
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Smile at everyone you pass. Then, stick your tongue out. Then high five. Then give a compliment like, "nice haircut." Then ask for directions. Then cold approach.
/r/seduction17/11/16 11:52 PM
1

Idk man. You seem a lot younger than me. I'd tell her to come over after work and then fuck her. I guess teenagers make out at the mall all the time though.
/r/seduction17/11/16 12:49 AM
1

Honestly I would change the date. Do you have a place to take her? If not, are you driving her? The car would be a good place to make out.
/r/seduction16/11/16 09:47 PM
1

People who speak their minds get girls. People who tip toe around their thoughts don't. People who accomplish their dreams get girls. People who worry about getting girls and spend their time reading pick up manuals do not. I'm trying to give people real beneficial advice. Not fill their heads with techniques and lines that make them into robots who get dumped by girls when they realize that the person they're fucking is a phony.
/r/seduction16/11/16 06:05 PM
1

Being an attractive male is not about approaching girls, it's about accomplishing your dreams and obtaining your desires. If you like improv, you should do imorov. 2. Being able to do and say what you want without giving a fuck is an excellent way to step up your game up in both life and with women.
/r/seduction16/11/16 05:46 PM
1

Tell her you've got 8 good reasons and send her a dick pick. But seriously, don't say what you said to girls ever again on Tinder. Joke, flirt, ask them on a date. "We should get to know each other," is AFC as fuck. Don't tell her, just do it.
/r/seduction16/11/16 12:58 AM
4

Cringey my man
/r/seduction15/11/16 04:27 PM
1

Depends on the context. Why say that though when you can just do it? You want to get to know her better? Good, then ask her out.
/r/seduction15/11/16 04:26 PM
1

Ask her out homie
/r/seduction15/11/16 04:25 PM
3

Invite her out. Don't try to play The Game over text. Set up another date, and kiss close this time. You need to study up on kino before that date happens. Physical contact is not supposed to be an all or nothing deal. You need to build up to the kiss. Hug her to say hello, bump into her and graze her hand "accidentally" as you walk. Touch her lightly during excited conversations. Play some game that relies on your hands touching. Hold and play with her hands. Now you're ready for the kiss.
/r/seduction15/11/16 04:24 PM
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Be a badass at work. Your problem is you have pickup on your mind too much. Stop thinking about The Game. The Game is not the entirety of your life. Being an attractive male isn't about approaching and f closing. It's about being the best you that you can be. Kill it at work, and when it comes time to go out, you'll continue to kill it.
/r/seduction15/11/16 04:20 PM
1

You should have read The Game by Neil Strauss before MM. Check that one out. There's an abridged version on YouTube. Then read Model, by Mark Manson. Don't try to be like Mystery.
/r/seduction15/11/16 02:43 PM
2

There's plenty of girls dreaming of a big strong man to keep them warm for the holidays. Go buy yourself a big soft sweater and do what you usually do.
/r/seduction15/11/16 02:41 PM
1

You have Oneitis. It's a terrible disease that affects many men across the globe. It's endemic especially to the US. Many Don Juans and Casanovas believe it may be caused by the movies and sad British rock music that we're exposed to as adolescents. But don't fret, for there's a cure. Go fuck 10 girls. If you still think about your coworker after that, then maybe she's the one.
/r/seduction15/11/16 02:38 PM
2

You're the master of your fate and the captain of your destiny. If you've accepted failure then nobody here is going to change that.
/r/seduction15/11/16 12:58 PM
1

Try The Book of Pook. Here's the audiobook:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vBLjaN9NDMQ
/r/seduction15/11/16 12:55 PM
1

So you have a job like a normal person? What you think everyone posting here goes out 5 times a week? Fuck no. That's the opposite of game. Being an attractive male means you take care of your own shit first, then you worry about girls. If you can only go out on the weekends, so be it. That's when most people go out anyways.
/r/seduction15/11/16 07:01 AM
1

I'm sure they give out their numbers to get rid of YOU.
/r/seduction15/11/16 03:11 AM
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Lol what? Where are you approaching girls? If you're in high school, stick to girls in your classes. If you're in college, stick to girls around college. If you're in Forever 21 and you see a girl who appears to have an escort that is much older than her, then don't approach her. You have common sense right? Most people can discern between a 13 year old and an 18 year old.
/r/seduction15/11/16 02:54 AM
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By msg do you mean text? If so, then yes, text her. How else are you supposed to invite someone out? There's not always a guarantee that you'll see every girl you meet in person again. That's why we get numbers.
/r/seduction14/11/16 05:31 AM
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You don't deserve shit. You will ruin the positive relationships you have by being an asshole. You're basically asking us how to be a shitty person. That's not what this sub is about.
/r/seduction14/11/16 03:42 AM
21

Here's a secret the PUA community won't tell you. Most girls do not sleep with you on the first or even second date. No really. Yes, many people have one night stands. But most girls will not fuck you until they're absolutely sure that you're the real deal. They can be horny as fuck, but still use their logical judgement and wait. That shit eating smirk is her wanting you. It means she want to fuck you, and she KNOWS that you want to fuck her. She appreciates this. It makes her feel good, but sh…
/r/seduction13/11/16 02:15 AM
3

First make sure you understand what The Game was all about! It's not a PUA book, and it's not just a fun story. If you've read MM, you're already well versed in the world of Old School PUA. You don't need to read anymore technical stuff. Therefore, I suggest you check out Models by Mark Manson, and then The Book of Pook. Models is available in audiobook form through Audible, which always has a free trial offer. And The Book of Pook is on YouTube. I listened to them both during workouts. They're …
/r/seduction13/11/16 02:08 AM
1

Lol no dude. Get your ass up and go outside and have some real experiences.
/r/seduction12/11/16 11:34 PM
1

Lol what? No dude, be an attractive male and you'll fuck hot chicks. Start blaming the world for your adversities and you'll be stuck having sex with fat feminists.
/r/seduction12/11/16 11:32 PM
1

Could not have said this any better.
/r/seduction12/11/16 07:27 PM
3

I agree. Bootcamps are temporary fixes. It's easy to approach 100 girls a night when you payed $2000 to be there and there's a bunch of people watching you expectingly. But then you go home, miss a couple weeks of approaching because of life, and the next time you go out, you realize the anxiety is still there. If you can approach 100 girls a night without paying thousands of dollars, the. You're making real meaningful change. And all of the information they'll teach you is readily available in …
/r/seduction12/11/16 07:24 PM
2

Yep just do 100 approaches and give yourself a time frame like a week or a month. Practice something different everytime you go out. First night, aim for 10 approaches and work on the 3 second rule. Next night, shoot for 10 and work on opening sets. Next night work on isolating. Next night aim for 2-3 but try to work on escalating and kino. You can make a little goal form in excel and stick with it. During this time, use the resources here and in Seduction books to build your knowledge of the th…
/r/seduction12/11/16 05:16 AM
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You were acting very weird my man. First off, she just wasn't that into you. She doesn't sound like she wants a second date, she went so far as to say the whole date was just her "meeting new people." She was taken aback by your talk of seduction and she pulled away from your hand to knee contact. This is not playing hard to read, this is a failed escalation attempt. She is not comfortable with you. What does talking sexually mean? You go from a failed escalation attempt to becoming increasingly…
/r/seduction12/11/16 04:21 AM
3

You're not putting her on a pedestal. Many guys get into seduction and become jaded and disillusioned about the world around them. It's okay to want to be more than just friends with a girl. But here's the thing, while some girls are desperate to jump into a relationship, others are much more independent. So, you already said the advice you needed to hear. Just keep having fun. Don't change. Don't pull her in too tight. As time goes on, her feelings towards you will inevitably change. Either she…
/r/seduction12/11/16 04:10 AM
2

Do the 100 approach challenge.
/r/seduction12/11/16 04:05 AM
1

Dude you have some reading to do. You can't come here and ask about every aspect of Game. First you must read The Game by Neil Strauss. Then I recommend The Natural by Richard La Ruina.
/r/seduction11/11/16 09:50 PM
3

Don't cry in front of women for anything other than something tragic or something amazing. If someone dies, let a tear roll. You're getting married, show those happy tears. Girls appreciate the confidence and strength it takes to be honest with your emotions. BUT, crying over silly stuff. Crying because you're stressed at work. Crying in front of girls because you got dumped. This is not the appropriate place to let out your emotions for these circumstances. This is weakness. Not the crying, but…
/r/seduction11/11/16 09:38 PM
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I second this. Read Models by Mark Manson. When it comes down to it, you're coming off as needy because you are needy. You feel you need success with women to complete yourself. You're the prize to be won. Escalation should be subtle. It starts with your eyes. Make crazy eye contact. Stare at her. Let the contact happen naturally from there. Little bumps. Hands grazing hands. Then play some games. Teach her a handshake. Play the games where you put your hands on top of one another's and slap eac…
/r/seduction11/11/16 09:30 PM
6

Never settle. If you want to make a friend, there's nothing wrong with that. In fact, having many girls as friends will open many more opportunities for you. But this is not a date. Failure is not lacking a girlfriend. Failure is not lacking a date. Failure is sitting in your empty house reading the divorce papers wondering where everything went so wrong. You are the prize to be won. Start acting like it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vBLjaN9NDMQ
/r/seduction11/11/16 09:16 PM
2

Here's what you need brotha: https://markmanson.net/the-levels-of-eye-contact
/r/seduction11/11/16 10:56 AM
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Yes. Cry. On your own. In your room. When it's just you and your thoughts. Think of everything you need to think. Analyze what you need to analyze. Learn the lessons you need to learn. And cry. Let it out. Then sleep. Store all that thinking. Store all that analyzing. Store all of those lessons. And then wake up, get out of bed, get up, dress up, show up. Walk with your head high, and keep trucking on. Emotions are meant to be expressed. If you don't express them, they'll drag you down in your d…
/r/seduction11/11/16 10:46 AM
2

You can always end that exchange with, "Sounds good, it's a date!" That's future advice, unless you haven't sent something else already. But she gets the point man. Just make eye contact, kino, and have fun. If she hasn't already, she'll get the hint.
/r/seduction11/11/16 04:51 AM
1

All girls are different. Some get off quickly. Some have never had an orgasm. Every girl has a different level of knowledge about their body. Stop worrying about stuff like this and enjoy the experience. Ask her what feels good, and what she likes, and do that. And don't be afraid to ask her about her sexuality and what gets her off. She might say I don't know because she rarely has sex or has orgasms.
/r/seduction09/11/16 04:10 AM
2

You can wait a few days because you already have decent rapport, in my opinion. She won't forget about you or forget who you are in the next 48 hours. And if she happens to text you first, that's awesome. In my opinion. Text game is tricky and is bet used to get a date as quick as possible in the beginning.
/r/seduction09/11/16 03:32 AM
2

I wouldn't actually. I would leave it as is and just wait a day or two then call or text her. How long have you been texting her? Does she frequently text you first?
/r/seduction09/11/16 01:13 AM
2

Well, next semester, you can try sitting next to the hottest girl in all of your classes. From then on, anytime before class and then the walk after class can be your time if you play your cards right. Get the number on the first day though. You can practice cold approaching as well. Between classes just walk up and talk to people who are alone already. Same at bookstores. Same at coffee shops. It's not rude or pushy. Say hi, introduce yourself, ask what they're up to, and if they say something …
/r/seduction09/11/16 12:43 AM
2

Don't ask if girls are busy. Be specific about date ideas. There's no way to know for sure what she feels based on what you said. Accept what she said, stay in contact if you want, and ask her out again after the time that's she's supposedly busy.
/r/seduction09/11/16 12:35 AM
1

The immoral part is the whole act. That's what it is, an act. You act like someone you're not. You say a line, deliver a neg, ease the neg with a hug, tell a joke, do a magic trick, play a game, you see 3 IOIs so you decide to isolate, you start kino, built rapport, break rapport, build rapport again, kiss close, kino, kino, kino, comfort, sweet talk past the last minute resistance, and then f close. That take 8-15 hours. Then you realize you like this girl. So you invite her over for some Netfl…
/r/seduction08/11/16 11:35 PM
1

She might cheat with you, but is it worth it? Aren't you an alpha male? Aren't you a Don Juan? Don't you fuck hot chicks? Why would someone with the potential to get whatever he wants in life choose to be nvolved in this drama? He wouldn't. This is called settling. You're settling for an non ideal situation because it's promising. Because it's the easy way out. This is the kind of action that leads to silent marriages and 10 years of child support. Don't settle.
/r/seduction08/11/16 11:12 PM
1

I'd say it's not really flaking if she never agreed to go. She may be telling the truth and is out of town, so how could she meet up with you? Or, you could have freaked her out by inviting her on the same date again, presumably for sex at the end of the night. Idk man, don't read too much into it. Just invite her out after the time she's supposed to be in town, and go from there.
/r/seduction08/11/16 08:58 PM
1

Have a conversation with her. Make sure the conversation ends up on some activity that you both like to do or would like to do. "Yeah, I've been meaning to see that movie too." Then, ask her if she wants to do that thing with you. If she says no, move on. If she says yes, exchange numbers and you got yourself a date my man. P.S. Movie dates are pretty lame for first dates. That was just an example.
/r/seduction08/11/16 06:50 PM
12

You want her back? Really?? Fine, here we go. Go to the gym. Get big. Get a promotion. Go out with some friends. Meet new people. Fuck some hot chicks. Go surfing. Learn a language. Learn guitar. Play a sport. Live and laugh. Have fun. At the end of that process, you'll either have her back or you won't care anymore. You think any girl wants to get back with some needy sad cunt who can't gain 10lbs on his bench press because he's too busy searching the Internet for tricks to win her back? Fuck n…
/r/seduction08/11/16 05:03 PM
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Fuck experience and fuck tips. Just have fun man. Alright alright, fine, here's some tips. Make tons of eye contact. Tons. If she asks why you're staring, just say you like looking people in the eyes. Kino kino kino. Starts with a hug, moves to little arm/leg touches during excited conversation points or "accidentally." Then play some game where you have to touch her hands. Like the game where you try to slap the top of each other's hands. If she digs that, just straight up hold hands. If she do…
/r/seduction08/11/16 04:59 PM
1

I didn't say be disappointed. I just said make your intentions clear. If a girl tells me she doesn't want to have sex, I say, "I'm fine with doing this." That usually involves some heavy foreplay, considering I was about to go for the f close. She knows I want to have sex with her. But I'm not doing anything to try and change her mind. I'm just enjoying myself, because there's still a half naked cutie in my bed. Your point is my point. It's normal for a girl to not want to have sex on the first …
/r/seduction08/11/16 04:12 PM
2

Sometimes. Why pretend you don't want to have sex in order to maybe have sex though? This is needy behavior and will ultimately lead to the destruction of your mental health. If you want to have sex let her know. So what if you have to go on a second date to get it? If a girls in your bed, enjoy the experience and stop worrying about closing. The Game is about happiness and fulfillment, not f closing.
/r/seduction08/11/16 03:29 PM
1

Stop texting and go on a date.
/r/seduction08/11/16 02:27 PM
3

There's a difference between old school PUA like the Mystery Method, and new school PUA which focuses on inner game. Old school PUA was more focused on controlling women. There was stupid shit like negging to bring a girl down, and techniques to overcome last minute resistance in bed (creepy). New school PUA is about controlling yourself and your life to become an attractive male. Many women who have heard of PUA still associate it with negging and canned lines. And many guys read The Game, comp…
/r/seduction08/11/16 02:24 PM
1

That's all up to circumstance. You might meet a hot girl, fuck for 2 months, think to yourself that you're ready to settle down, and then you ask her if she's only fucking you and it turns out she wants to fuck everyone! It's 2016, nobody, women included, should be ashamed of pursuing their sexual and romantic happiness. That means, your wants and their wants will not align all of the time. Of course you could settle, but the goal is not to get a girlfriend! The goal is not to get married, have …
/r/seduction08/11/16 05:23 AM
1

Here's what you should do. Go back to the store, make a joke about forgetting something else, and then ask her out on a date. Now you're not creepy, you're bold. You know why it's creepy? Because I doubt that you're completely comfortable cold approaching. So you're taking this as an opportunity to start The Game on easy mode. No, there is no easy mode. Go earn her.
/r/seduction08/11/16 05:04 AM
1

You have a classic case of Mr. Nice Guy. Girls always think you'd be great for their friend, but never for them. Try reading Book of Pook. There's and audio version on YouTube.
/r/seduction08/11/16 04:59 AM
2

Try approaching without a wing. Then he's no longer a factor.
/r/seduction08/11/16 04:30 AM
4

Listen to this guy. PUA isn't about tricks and gimmicks anymore. We don't try to control women. We control ourselves and the women are attracted to what we make of ourselves. But women are humans. If they don't want to have sex while in your bed, they won't. This is normal. Most people don't have sex the first time meeting someone. Is she hot? Is she cool? Then put in the time it takes to make her want your dick and don't try some "last minute resistance" tricks. That's needy and you'll weird he…
/r/seduction08/11/16 04:28 AM
0

That's fine, but you ignored everything else that happened. He's still a piece of shit. He still kidnapped her and assaulted a bystander. And it's not self defense.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/10/16 12:46 AM
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Self defense doesn't mean take the upper hand and then beat the shit out of someone. It means defending yourself. He beats the living crap out of her, then drags her into the car when she doesn't want to go (kidnapping).then he chases and assaults a bystander trying to call the police. Then he takes her away. He's a real piece of shit, despite being assaulted first.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/10/16 09:53 AM
1

You want a girl like you. So yes, doing the things you love will allow you to find her. Unless you limit that to staying inside and playing video games. Whatever you like to do, do that. Commit yourself to it. And when you meet a girl in the process, go for it. You still NEED to practice your game though. You NEED to be the best you that you can be. You need to know how to capitalize on your chances. This will set you up for higher quality girls rather than just the first girl who shows interest…
/r/seduction31/07/16 06:35 AM
1

Cold approaching is how you get any girl you want. And it's also how you kill our anxieties through practice. That said, many people find love, get married, and have kids and never cold approach in their lives. Very few people actually cold approach, considering PUAs are a minority group. So no, you don't NEED to cold approach to be happy. What you do need to do is build an attractive lifestyle. You need to get in shape, make friends, build social circles, and do the things that you love. With t…
/r/seduction31/07/16 04:38 AM
1

I don't care about your point. It's unrelated to my question. I don't have any issues escalating. I don't need advice on being sexual. And I certainly don't need to read another manual. Yes, I wanted a quick and easy game like the Cube. I like using the Cube. I have fun doing so. If I post in r/fitness and ask for a good stretch for my sore hip flexors, nobody goes on a rant about the fundamentals of bench press. There's a hundred other guys posting here who need to read a manual to have some id…
/r/seduction13/06/16 02:22 PM
1

Because you posted two chapters from your PUA manual for me to read and not a single mention of what I wanted help with.
/r/seduction13/06/16 01:15 PM
0

Like I said, I'm no AFC. I know girls love sex. They tell me when I'm making them cum. I don't need to be explicitly sexual before I've spent 2 hours with a girl to get laid. It's just not me.
/r/seduction13/06/16 07:37 AM
1

It's not really a gimmick or a trick anymore. I've been at it for a few years now and I've gotten pretty good at building connections naturally. I've never had a bad first date tbh. But I just have a soft spot for this game because girls always enjoy it. They always tell me later about how they used it on their friends after and it made for awesome conversation for longer than just one date. But now that it's gone viral, it seems like it may lose its charm. Maybe I'll give palm reading a try. Se…
/r/seduction13/06/16 05:17 AM
1

Poorly placed sarcasm considering I've never said that. I'm no AFC but appreciate you trying to set me straight. I was pretty fond of the Cube Test. Girls always seem to enjoy it. I have them close their eyes, and I hold their hands while I do the test. Plenty of kino, and light hearted fun. Kino and escalation are subtle and gradual. Being overly and explicitly sexual is an all or nothing game. Sometimes you'll get a quick lay, but most of the time you'll fuck it up. I wouldn't use Strawberry F…
/r/seduction13/06/16 05:13 AM
1

Very possible lol. Got a link or description about yours? Edit: Wtf lol? Downvotes for not knowing what strawberry fields is? I must be pretty dumb for typing it into Google when all I was given was the words "strawberry fields."
/r/seduction11/06/16 11:54 PM
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Too sexual. If you think that works on first dates with quality girls you'd better think again.
/r/seduction11/06/16 11:42 PM
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