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A better reply would have been Hey, don't tell me how to write my responses. I'll say what the fuck I want to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 08:53 PM
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I'll say what the fuck I want to say. Ditto!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 08:47 PM
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We know it doesn't mean all you dimwits. Then stop saying "all women are like that"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 08:43 PM
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Sorry, it wasn't produced on the Red Pill subreddit therefore it's Blue Pill. You're only allowed to like 30% of it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 08:32 PM
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You can't generalize about anything I don't remember ever saying that. Generalize if you want but you can't act surprised when somebody says "well wait, maybe not all women will start looking for Chad Thundercock the second you show any kind of emotion". And stop saying "we're not allowed to generalize women!". You're doing it right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 07:44 PM
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Alright, well I get dibs on Game of Thrones then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 05:22 PM
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on your own side Which side is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 05:12 PM
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Right, which makes the idea that they're "blue-pill" even more ridiculous. Unless you count literally everything that's not TRP as blue-pill, which is a useless definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 05:12 PM
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The point is outside of here many of us Nice Guys never thought the average woman would be judgmental. I doubt you're a nice guy. And you're an idiot if you replace one inarticulately positive view of women with an inarticulately negative one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 05:01 PM
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the thing that PUA focusses on, perhaps in its favour compared to TRP, is the How and What: How do I attract women, What do I need to do to attract? What it (deliberately?) ignores is the Why. Why does this work on so many women? It's almost like I said that already: They just get straight to the "dating strategies" part and skip the whole "women are emotional bitches who you can never trust" bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 04:56 PM
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I'm a slut and I love girly drinks. Gimme anything with rum or vodka.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 04:32 AM
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Look up "hypergamous" on /r/seduction, there hasn't been a post using that term in years. Nah, the PUA guys i like are the ones about creating positive vibes, being social, being the life of the party, looking really good, etc. They don't really get into that whole "Women get pussy-pass treatment and the feminists control the media" thing that TRP goes on about. In fact, most PUAs that I read focus on self-improvement while TRP mostly focuses on how terrible women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 11:02 PM
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drinks beer or hard liquor. drinks tequila shots. What do non-sluts drink, wine?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 09:29 PM
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I think people have different definitions of what "settling" means. Some people have the general mindset of "look man, you're reasonably attractive and make a decent amount but you're probably not going to date Emma Watson". Other people use it to mean "You're going to have to marry someone you're not into because that's all you're worth". men hold out for Carmen Electra Nah, I'm holding out for Pamela Anderson or Jlo. Maybe in the meantime I'll listen to that new teen hit artist Britney Spears.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 09:26 PM
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Saying that all women cheat is as wrong as saying that all teenagers drink illegally. A lot do but a lot don't. Hey wow, there is language that you can use to say that a group has some certain characteristics but that doesn't necessarily apply to everyone! But that's just the silly women's subreddit though, and their hamster minds can't understand the "pretty deep and impressive model of social dynamics" of TRP. Let's see what TRP proper says about AWALT: AWALT. No exceptions, even for uggos. Oh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:46 PM
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/r/Mensrights is already 1/3rd /r/conspiracy anyways. Just replace "Zionists" with "feminists" and half the posts will be indistinguishable. The feminists/zionists control the narrative in the media! This court decision is just proof that the feminists/zionists have incluence in our judicial system They even spread their zionist/feminist propaganda in the schools to brainwash the children early!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:16 PM
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What do you think "heuristics" means? After you give your definition, please explain how it had literally anything to do with my comment. And I deliberately used that language so I wouldn't generalize literally everyone in that group because I don't need the world to be black and white (or red and blue). I'm sure there's plenty of virgins out there who are raunchier than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:10 PM
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Men, do you like inexperienced women just as much as experienced ones? No. They usually take a long time before they'll put out, they usually want monogamy, they don't know what they're doing, they're usually not down to try new things, they're more likely to be emotional, and they generally don't have the confidence to do anything other than to lay there and take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:05 PM
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If you actually believe anonymous stories on 4chan/8chan then you deserve to be made fun of.
/r/MensRights21/07/15 10:00 PM
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Nah, I sorta dig PUA. They just get straight to the "dating strategies" part and skip the whole "women are emotional bitches who you can never trust" bit. There's plenty of creepy PUA guys and I think it's sad how deep into that culture some PUAs are but for the most part it's just actionable advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:42 PM
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I don't hate the word. I guess I just get so caught up in this internet bullshit that I forget there's some people actually doing things out there. I think that feminist magazine that petitioned the FBI to change the definition of rape has done more for men's rights than the entire men's rights movement has ever done.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 10:29 PM
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Nah, thanks for finally backing up your position in a debate sub. Good points.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 10:18 PM
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No you won't. If you were going to you would have already.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 09:54 PM
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Arguing about something and not even trying to understanding the facts What facts? I started out by saying "I've never seen feminists do anything worthwhile in my life". You respond by saying "omg ur so ignorant" and "educate urself". If you have something to prove, prove it. Otherwise stop getting so offended that an internet stranger doesn't think as highly of your movement as you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 09:43 PM
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Well it's a good thing that you just called me ignorant instead of presenting evidence for your side. Because that's how debate subs should operate!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 09:37 PM
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No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 09:26 PM
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Not in my lifetime, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 09:17 PM
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Meh, I don't really care. Feminists act like they're saving the world while MRAs act like they're oppressing men. In reality I've never seen feminists accomplish anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 09:11 PM
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Now she identifies as a feminist So she's part of the 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 09:03 PM
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People who say "morals don't apply to what I'm doing right now!" tend to do immoral things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 08:55 PM
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Depends how attractive he/she is. You can say the dumbest things as long as you say it with enough confidence and have the looks to back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 08:54 PM
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I'm white. Nope. I'm privileged as fuck and like it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 08:53 PM
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Purple Pill Debate is a neutral community to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to /r/TheBluePill and /r/TheRedPill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 05:05 PM
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Epic point bro
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 07:33 PM
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Tell that to "epic".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 03:38 AM
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I don't expect you to date sluts. I just expect you to not say that they're "broken" or "incapable of monogamy". I'd never date a virgin or Christian so I ignore them, not shame them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 02:41 AM
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Realistically, men don't really care if a girl is boring or not, as long as she's not a mean, spiteful or unstable. Speak for yourself, I hate boring chicks. They just want to stay inside and watch Netflix all day. Another factor that kind of sits in the back of every man getting into a relationship is "how would this girl treat me, if we were to split up?". A nice, caring and nurturing women would certainly make it easier to get into a relationship for someone, knowing that if things don't work…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 02:35 AM
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Any use of that word, legitimate or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 02:33 AM
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Nah I'm just being a dick
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 12:43 AM
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Oh man, you like foreign black and white movies and none of your plebian peers can understand because they're too busy watching Michael Bay? You really were born in le wrong generation huh. Let me guess, you also dislike top 40 music and unironically use the word "droll" to refer to parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 12:24 AM
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If you want some objective measuring tool for creepiness, just use the formula. (Your Age)/2 + 7 is the lower limit of what you should date. But like I said, this is a general guideline instead of a hard and fast rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 12:19 AM
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Nah, you should talk to my sister if you want someone to write an erotic fan-fiction story for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 12:11 AM
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do you mind giving an example of a context of an age gap relationship that would not be considered "scummy" in your opinion? You mean invent a fake story in which a creep is taking advantage of a young chick? Aren't you supposed to write your own field reports?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 12:03 AM
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Well then you're not a nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 12:00 AM
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Depends on the context. Unlike TRPers, I don't live in a black and white world.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 11:56 PM
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It probably had a lot more to do with your not caring about your looks Nice Guys do the same thing. "I don't lift weights or focus on fashion like those douchebags, I spend my time on valuable activities like school and church!"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 11:54 PM
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prime pussy pls stop But if he does follow it with college freshman, then no problems right? Yup. And if a Nigerian prince actually follows through with his promise to repay you, then there's no problems there either!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 11:41 PM
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Wow, you're a 19 year old who is really mature and interesting for your age? How unique, tell me more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 11:32 PM
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As for why he would date her, easy access to some good pussy. Right, and that's concerning. If he can only get with people that don't know any better than speaks to either his maturity level or his desire to really control the people he's with. Teenagers don't have the experience to recognize red flags and they don't have as many alternatives in case they want to leave. So if an older person is trying to date an extremely younger person (that they're unlikely to have much in common with), then w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 11:31 PM
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That's a different scenario. Your relationship with her didn't arise from shared interests and companionship, but from her being your grandmother. Do you visit any 80 or 90 year olds you're not related to? Have a beer with them. And watch a movie like you would with any of your agemates? Yes, you're absolutely right! The relationship that I have with my grandmother is different than the relationship that i have with my friends, and you can't really compare the two. Just like the relationship tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 11:28 PM
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Yeah you're right, I guess reddit is always 6 months late to what the dankest memes are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 11:13 PM
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And I'm close with my 90 year old grandma, I guess she's the biggest pervert in the country! /s We're talking about dating and sex here. It's not fucked up to talk about music with a 13 year old. It is fucked up to fuck a 13 year old. It doesn't matter what their personality or maturity level is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 11:02 PM
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4chan ruined it. Not that there was much to ruin in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 10:59 PM
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18 year olds get taken advantage off by insurance salesmen, taking out loans, being recruited by military, vote, etc. For what it's worth I don't like military recruiters operating in high schools either. I just think it's creepy if you're way older than the person you're dating regardless of gender. Like, what could a 35 year old have in common with a teenager? They're a whole generation apart. In my opinion the primary characteristics of teenagers are inexperienced and gullible. I question the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 10:52 PM
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Right.... but we're on PPD. There's no reason to single out either gender on this sub if the topic applies to both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 10:44 PM
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Then why does TRP bring up how men are honorable and create value to society? It seems to me like you guys have no problem discussing men as long as it's positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 10:41 PM
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It's a fucking retarded meme, I'm glad it's dying out. >inb4 if you don't like the beta cuck meme then you're a beta cuck!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 10:40 PM
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I'm not gay, I'm not marrying men, men aren't capable of divorce raping me, why do we need to talk about men? Because not all discussions need to revolve around things you want to stick your dick into. We talk about gender dynamics on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 10:39 PM
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You guys have no issues talking about male values if it involves jerking each other off over how great men are. Male ambition is the independent driver of human progress; female ambition has always been dependent on male ambition traits of the alpha male: ambition, charisma, strength, etc. Honor is one of the bigger differences between men and women. If women had true honor, then being beta would be the more effective strategy. It's only when I say "hey maybe men also do the shitty things you ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 09:25 PM
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If she was funny, kind, or smart then you'd mention that. Saying someone has a "great personality" is a generic compliment that you can give to anyone that otherwise wouldn't have any good features worth pointing out. It's like saying a bar has a "good atmosphere" or that your mom's cooking has "a homemade feel".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 08:56 PM
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Where's the problem here? You guys only single out women for criticism and then act shocked when you get called misogynists. Wouldn't just be easier to say "hey, you know all those things men are capable of? Women too". That's much more to the point and a balanced way of looking at the issue. We're adults here, we can discuss things that we don't want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 08:55 PM
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How does that definition of AWALT not also apply to men? >inb4 "hurr TRP is for straight men so we only talk shit about women"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 08:32 PM
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The female equivalent of a "nice guy" is "she has a great personality". That's the kind of compliment that you give to a boring person with no other positive attributes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 08:30 PM
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teach me how to do that haha Practice. Talk to a stranger every day. Keep in mind that the worst answer you can get is "no". Going to parties helps because you can talk to new people and drink to get confidence (don't go overboard though).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 08:30 PM
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There's plenty of people who like to date assholes. That doesn't mean that I can't criticize assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 08:26 PM
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such as? Being confident, working out, not being afraid of rejection, and various small things you pick up from experience. Are your friends 14? I stay Facebook friends with this one guy I used to know from church. I disagree with nearly everything he posts (he's religious, conservative, and homophobic) but I keep him visible because it cracks me up sometimes. He posted this comic once, it's pretty much the worst thing I've ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 07:25 PM
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cuckold Stopped reading there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 06:33 PM
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I never really said anything entitled which was actually part of my problem. If anything I was more of a doormat than a Nice Guy. I let friends/girls use me while thinking "this is the Christian/right thing to do! If they're true friends then they'll see how nice I am and reciprocate". And then I got upset when they took advantage of me as much as they did lol. So yeah I had streaks of NiceGuy but for the most part I was just naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 06:02 PM
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I used to be a Nice Guy. I never flipped out and called out women for not appreciating how nice I was or anything but looking back I was a bit entitled. I grew up Christian and in the Boy Scouts so I figured that being "nice" was the right thing to do and that it would pay off eventually. Once when I realized just being nice won't get you laid I became a misogynist and started treating women like gold-digging whores tried new things and figured out more effective strategies for dating. So I gues…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 05:47 PM
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You should get some therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 05:18 PM
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Are you really saying that feminists almost killed you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 04:56 PM
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I don't think niceness is really correlated with attraction. You can be a studly nice guy or a butt-ugly douchebag and vice versa. But if you have so few interesting characteristics that being "nice" is the way you define yourself, you're probably pretty boring. Anyways, you shouldn't be nice in order to get laid. That's not being nice, that's just an ineffective sexual strategy. You should be nice because it's the right thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 08:42 AM
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Robert Pattinson was 22 when Twilight came out. I mean, I guess that's "young" but I wouldn't call him a boy. Megan Fox was younger than that in Transformers and literally no one got upset that men were "ogling younger girls".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 01:11 AM
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Yes, I'm sure you apply equal standards to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 11:30 PM
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But sure, we make the bad arguments... Yup, no exceptions. You make bad arguments no matter what you say, because I base my world view on inaccurate generalizations that I read on the internet rather than what actually happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 11:20 PM
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So you take an article that says that men are also just like that, and you think that proves misogynistic intent? But wait, I thought that TRP was sexual strategy for straight men so you don't need to use AMALT? That's handy that you guys change your position once when you get accused of being misogynists. I guess it makes sense though, since "All TRPers Make Bad Arguments".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 11:09 PM
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First of all, there's literally nothing in that article that implies that men and women would be treated differently. Secondly, absolving people of a past crime in order to get them to report a different crime isn't the same as getting "the free privilege to commit other crimes". You know how you can get a reduced sentence by cooperating with the police? Is that them giving criminals the "free privilege to sell drugs"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 11:06 PM
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In terms of truth AWALT is a lot closer to "humans are social animals" than "all blacks are criminals", which was the comparison you came up with. Lol no it's not. You're making negative statements about a specific group of people. Not neutral observations about general human nature. All women, given the right circumstances, will slut, lie, cheat, and/or leave All women are the same, instinctively. Within a few decimals of variation, all women are nearly identical in their primitive nature. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 10:56 PM
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Depends on how overweight. Chicks can get away with having a bit of chub especially if it goes to their boobs/ass. Overweight guys are gross though, it all goes immediately to their bellies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 09:03 PM
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If you make negative generalizations about a specific group of people based on their immutable characteristics, you really can't get that offended when people call you a bigot. I also love how you keep pretending that the generalizations that TRP makes are like "black people have dark skin" and "humans are social animals".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 08:59 PM
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AWALT is true in the same sense as all men want to fuck hot girls is true. That doesn't mean they'll always give in to temptation. "All blacks are criminals" is true in the sense that they all want to steal things from people who actually work for a living. That doesn't mean they'll always give in to temptation. What, why are you calling me racist?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 08:43 PM
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So you see no difference between a relationship and FWBs?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 07:36 PM
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Relationships are more than "friends + sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 07:15 PM
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Right, so TRP says that you shouldn't trust women. Which is what I said. And not trusting women is literally a definition of misogyny. Are you caught up now?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 07:06 PM
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I don't think TRP should be banned. You guys are assholes but it's just the internet. And at least you generally stick to your sad corner on this website. I wouldn't mind if the admins just did a purge of all the major 2edgy4me subreddits (/r/coontown, /r/beatingwomen, /r/cutefemalecorpses, etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 07:02 PM
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I want SRS to get banned so you guys finally lose your boogeyman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 07:01 PM
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So emotion is acceptable when you guys do it but not when women do it. Got it. the much more prevalent in women reasoning from emotion, such as being mad at your bf because you dreamed he cheated. Lol yeah I'm sure that's really prevalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 06:55 PM
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Right, but OP is claiming that there's people out there who say "never approach women in a bar/club!". I've never heard of those people before.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 06:52 PM
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BP Men: Would you date a woman that weighed more than you? BP Men: Would you date a woman that had a higher BMI than you? These are two different questions. I absolutely would date someone with a higher BMI than me. I doubt I would date someone who weighed more than me. I'm 6'2. In terms of dealbreakers there's a lot more important things than weight (although it is a factor).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 06:48 PM
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What would you say about this post on your front page right now: Anger is the gift of rational thinking.....Anger is a LOT better than the alternative responses to this trauma, which are depression, anxiety, addiction, or complacency. Anger allows you to respond appropriately, as opposed to emotionally. It sounds to me like TRPers are being lead around by one particular emotion, which as you pointed out is not logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 06:45 PM
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I'm personally sticking with the chrome extension that replaces "SJWs" with "skeletons". The internet makes a lot more sense now. You guys, the skeletons have completely taken over the American government!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 06:40 PM
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TRP is not saying "all women have two X chromosomes". TRP is saying "All women are lying whores" or "All women will leave you the second they get a better option". It's not racist/misogynist if it is true. But it's not true! Even TRP admits that AWALT is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 06:39 PM
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We accept women and their nature for who they truly are That's prejudice. I also really doubt that TRP "trusts" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 06:37 PM
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Because if there's one thing that would keep them awake at night it would be the realization that you can be a complete and utter douchebag particularly to women and yet they would walk barefoot through trails of broken glass in order to get to you. No, not really. There's plenty of mouth breathers out there who date people I dislike. It's not like women are angels who only judge attraction based on morality like TRPers say they used to believe. Plenty of men like hot bitches, why wouldn't the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 06:36 PM
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race realism ethnic interests at the expense of her own genetic interests mealy-mouthed propaganda advocating for multiculturalism human biological diversity Hey guys, I found the racist!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 06:27 PM
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According to Kohlberg’s theory, Amy’s judgment of the dilemma appears to be a full stage lower than that of the boy. Gilligan found this problematic. Why was Amy rated at a lower level? Amy’s answer was unsure (Gilligan 1993, 28): “Well, I don’t think so.” I don't think that saying "well this is a complicated issue" means that women are worse at morality. If anything they're being more honest about it. In Kohlberg’s research, it was already decided what the highest moral level contains: the auto…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 06:25 PM
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Who seriously gets upset at being approached at a bar or club? Half the reason for going to those places is to meet new people. You can approach women wherever you want. Some venues are obviously more acceptable than others but the biggest difference is the woman you're approaching. Some women will welcome your advances and others won't. That's just the way things are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 06:02 PM
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There's more emotions out there than "upset" you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:53 PM
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I think when it comes to which gender is "unopen" about how they're feeling, men will win every time. Women are more likely to express a variety of emotions, and much better at sympathizing with other people's emotions. I've had friends that I've known for 10 years who will say "nah it's fine" when they're very clearly dealing with something.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:50 PM
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men tend to do better on male-centric tests on morality What's a "male-centric test"? And how do you objectively measure morality? I would venture that women are "emotionally inferior" by the masculine standard of stoicism. I.e. remaining impersonal/impartial. That sounds to me like "men are better at emotions because we just ignore them"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:47 PM
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Are you guys just sluts yourselves, is that why you vehemently defend sluts so much? Pretty much. I'm tired of taking shit for my sexuality. No matter who I fuck, how I fuck, or how many people I fuck I'm over feeling ashamed for it. I'm not saying sluts are the scum of the earth. But it's different when it's your own fucking family, don't you think? You're right, when it's my family it's especially none of my business how they have sex. I'd say you should be ashamed of yourself. If you don't te…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:43 AM
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Yeah, I honestly think that was the biggest reason for banning that sub. It's one thing to have shitty memes all over your website's front page but having "fat hatred" constantly plastered over your homepage doesn't look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:40 AM
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Gaming 12 hours a day likely means you are unsuccessful in other aspects of life (social, fitness, hygiene, etc). OP said 12 hours a week
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:49 PM
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One of the only things i do not believe BP men on is that they believe its just as frequent for women to cold approach men as men cold approach women. Who said that? Because it's bullshit. Men initiate way more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:44 PM
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Both groups are really hard to define. But from my perspective TRP basically says "here are some sexual strategies that will get you laid" and TBP says "TRP are a bunch of assholes". Both statements can be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:42 PM
2

Yeah, same. I mostly read internet stories for entertainment value and judge it on that. Occasionally I'll read something that gets me emotional and sometimes I'll read something that has a good point or makes me look at an issue differently. But I never take stories at their face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:38 AM
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There's nothing wrong with giving yourself as much advantage in the sexual marketplace. There's nothing wrong with making money! There's nothing wrong with having fun! There's nothing wrong with loving your country! That doesn't mean that literally all behavior in the pursuit of those things is ok though. I see TRP as the economics of the sexual marketplace. Me too. The problem is that economics looks at general trends, and you can't apply that to individual relationships. Economics assumes that…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:19 AM
2

I'm from 4chan. At the top of /b/'s front page reads "The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact." That's pretty much been my mantra in regards to believing anonymous stories on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 08:14 PM
9

You're completely missing the point of everything in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 12:10 AM
20

Because if there's anything that TRPers love more than generalizations, it's double-standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 10:48 PM
5

If your gf used dread you'd break up with her. Therefore dread game doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 08:57 PM
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it's absolutely comical how they bend over backwards to dismiss it, blame it on other things, bring up irrelevant topics to divert attention and claim it's racist to even bring it up Sure, there's plenty of truth to that. But it's hilarious to hear someone ask "why aren't there any groups criticizing rap music?!". Rap music is the most controversial and criticized genre of music out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 06:28 PM
-2

Lol everyone in this thread saying "feminists never criticize rap music!" just makes it blatantly obvious that you get your impression of feminists from TIA.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 06:08 PM
0

Hello I am new to the internet and what is a troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 06:02 PM
3

Yeah, I would never marry some submissive, naive 20 year old girl that TRPers tend to idolize. That sounds boring as shit no matter how hot she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 12:39 AM
3

I mean, that's a lot of hypotheticals. I'd probably ask him what it is about TRP that he found helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 12:05 AM
11

Yeah, I sometimes feel kind of insulted by the stuff they say about men. Men are incapable of having female friends Men aren't attracted to intelligence Men only care about one thing: sex All men want to do is drink beer and watch the game, not have deep conversations with their partners Like Jesus, don't project your own short-comings onto me. Although I guess it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Any guys who say "hey that doesn't apply to me" probably won't join TRP, which leaves most TRPers fitti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 11:28 PM
-7

Please don't tell me that you're comparing SJWs to Hitler.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 10:44 PM
0

Who gossips about their friends' sex lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 10:27 PM
8

You remind me of all those kids in high school who said "Don't ever have sex on E, it will feel so good that it will ruin sex for you forever".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 07:32 PM
3

Earning over $60,000 puts you in the top 10% of individual income earners in the US. Wow that's pretty insane. And totally achievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 06:39 AM
3

And you're the one who's arguing about the existence of this "rule" in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 08:51 PM
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Be careful with friendly SJWs and feminists – they can turn on you very easily. Lol I love how you guys need to blame SJWs and feminists for literally all your problems.
/r/MensRights08/07/15 08:22 PM
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I remember that post specifically because I had just gotten in an argument with the OP and the next day he wrote that instead of responding to me lol. It just came across as "well these internet nerds might get pissed off but I'm too cool and drive a fast car and have a big dick". Also because he was singing Free Falling and that song fucking blows.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 08:03 PM
3

Are you asking why I showed evidence supporting my side in a debate sub? If you really need that explained to you then I think we're done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:40 PM
3

An exception doesn't disprove my point . I don't think anything you've posted in this thread has proved your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:22 PM
3

Psh, that article you posted that disproves my point doesn't mean anything. The evidence is on my side, which is why I've posted 0 articles from Jezebel to back it up!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:04 PM
1

They only teach men not to rape . "Secondly, the writer assumes that men are always the sexual assailants and women are always the victims and that rape always occurs in the context of a heterosexual coupling, which is so far from being an accurate statement that it's damaging to male victims of sexual assault and victims of female assailants." But hey, who needs accuracy when you have generalizations! That's what TRP is good at.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 06:38 PM
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This has always been my favorite. It might not even technically be a field report but it basically sums up what I think about them. So there's me, just doing some cool guy things. I briefly checked reddit but I'm not like a loser or nerd for coming on here right lol. So then I got in my luxury car and showed up late for work and I'm not even going to get in trouble. Also I got laid. Also I'm singing free falling because I have terrible taste in music. I came here from 4chan so I'm kinda over all…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 06:29 PM
0

when OP asks why some men slut shame, well...why not? Why does anyone do anything? Lol what a useless fucking response
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 04:28 PM
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Whether it's effective is not what your post is about. You were asking if we agreed with this guy's comment. He said: I'm outright saying they're not based in reality So yes, I agree with him. AWALT is bullshit. You're the one trying to rationalize it by saying "well ok maybe it's not based in reality but it's a useful tool to remember things!". I bet if you told children that a monster would eat them unless they brushed their teeth then that would be effective too. It doesn't make the monster a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 10:46 PM
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Right.... that term is bullshit. Which was the point of the guy that you linked to. Idk how you can say "Ok well you're right that this concept from TRP is false but how can you tell me that TRP is bullshit?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 10:05 PM
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This entire thread is the problem with saying that ALL of one group or another act a certain way Kinda like saying All Women Are Like That? Anyways OP started out by saying "Why do some men slut shame?" so I don't think he was making any big generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 09:59 PM
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AWALT is bullshit, even you guys admit that. With stuff like AFBB and shit tests, I don't deny that that stuff exists but I really disagree with your interpretation of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 09:56 PM
4

Most of my female friends are pretty perceptive. But even then sometimes they'll think a guy is "just being nice" when he's clearly into them. I went to my friend's 21st in Vegas a couple months ago and she was telling me about this guy she knows there. "Oh we've known each other for so long we're such good friends. He said he'll hook me up with backstage stuff and drugs, I'm sure he'll do the same for you". She was surprised when I told her that wasn't happening lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 12:50 AM
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you'd have to come from the assumption that women are knowledgeable, introspective, and selfless enough to give accurate advice Aw Jesus Being a man does not come with special consideration- it's the status quo. If by special you meant like.... wait.... damnit I swear I had something for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 12:34 AM
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Lol can you really not imagine a situation in which bringing up your sex might have some usefulness in a sexual strategy forum? Men and women have pretty different experiences in society, I don't see why you guys need to be so worried about hearing a different perspective than your own. After all, you're allowed to say you're a man on TRP, you're just not allowed to say you're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 12:05 AM
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No. You're allowed to date whoever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 11:14 PM
0

I don't "need" to say I'm a guy anymore than I "need" to say I like watching the Seahawks. But if it's relevant I'll bring it up. And if I get banned because a community is too delicate to hear such radical statements, that's probably for the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 10:28 PM
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Lol you get fucking banned from TRP if you say that you're a woman. I'm pretty sure you won't get banned from /r/baseball if you say that you also like football.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 10:14 PM
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Yeah probably. Fortunately I don't care about what TRP thinks of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 10:03 PM
2

Good to know, I'll check it out thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 07:58 PM
1

Yeah fair enough, the double standard posts are usually legitimate. I've seen plenty of shit like this that really makes me want to take action to fix these kinds of injustices. But taking action isn't really /r/mensrights strong suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 07:52 PM
1

The only reason anyone would admit to suicidal ideation is if they wanted to intentionally give out a cry for help or if they wanted to use it for manipulation Wow you're right, wouldn't that be terrible if they used that psychological trick to manipulate people in relationships? How despicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 07:49 PM
2

Let me know when you guys actually do those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 07:38 PM
4

Ehhhh, I've heard mixed things about that. Like in some countries where it's legal there will still be foreign women imported in and forced to work against their will. Idk enough about this topic to actually debate it but that's part of the reasoning I heard at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 07:35 PM
1

How do I know if someone is unstable, depressed, or close to suicide? If you're going out with them that's probably something you should know.... This is another one of those instances where "hey sit down and talk about it" isn't as bad advice as TRP pretends it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 07:31 PM
1

Both are cases where someone is an asset to the other either for money or love and demonstrates that if they aren't properly appreciated then they're gone. I just think it's fucked up to think "what's the exchange rate of love to assets?" in terms of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 07:28 PM
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Nah. I mean, I'm not getting married any time soon and I'm stoked about that. But I'm not going to pretend that my lifestyle will work for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 07:23 PM
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I know plenty of gay guys who wear make-up. If they're doing it right you'd never tell that they have it on. It's basically just a cheat to have smooth and clear skin. But straight guys are so insecure in their sexuality that they're willing to overlook a cheap and easy way to look sexier because it's "unmanly" smh
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 07:22 PM
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Some feminists are against prostitution (especially in poorer countries) because it contributes to sex trafficking and exploits women. But there's plenty of sex positive feminists for prostitution and plenty of old fashioned moral puritans against prostitution so it's hard to tell what the split is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 07:19 PM
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they do it because they think the feminists get in the way of Mens Rights. Exactly my point. MRAs spend more time getting in internet slapfights with straw-feminists than they actually do anything related to "men's rights".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 06:59 PM
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It's just all bitching at double standards and acting like feminists are trying to oppress men. The most notable thing /r/mensrights has ever done was spam all those false rape accusations. Let's look at the front page of that sub right now. "I used to be a feminist and now I'm not!" Double Standard "Milo (Jesus) Yiannopuolos patiently explains to silly feminist why men are better at chess" "Feminists are hypocrites" Picture on Facebook If I cared about men's rights how would any of those posts …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 06:53 PM
2

Holy shit, you mean that my analogy doesn't accurately represent the other side and was just a cheap attempt to dismiss something without even understanding it properly? Somebody should tell OP before he generalizes the other side in an analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 10:44 PM
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AWALT I wasn't really trying to make a point though, other than it's really easy to make the other side look stupid and irrational as long as you're the one defining what they're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 10:32 PM
2

TRP: Welcome to the TRP store! May I help you? Yes I've heard mixed things about your products but I've come to learn about them. TRP: Well you've come to the right place. All of our products are guaranteed to work. Unlike our competitor's products, which will all give you AIDs. Whoah, what? That seems like an inflammatory and inaccurate generalization. TRP: Hey what are you now, a SJW? All Opposing Products Give You AIDs. This is the mindset you need to adopt in order for our products to work a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 10:18 PM
2

This study disagrees with my previously held belief Better ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 09:32 PM
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One thing to keep in mind is that this was written in 2004 and gay marriage was only legalized in Norway and Sweden in 1993 and 1995 respectively. ~10 years isn't a super long time to study marriage, and the kind of people who got married immediately when it was legalized might not be the same kind of people who were getting straight married in the same time period. I'm not saying that the info is inaccurate or anything, we could just use more data. That said, I wonder how much kids play a role …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 09:25 PM
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I don't even know where I'm at in life right now so I don't have a full answer to that question. But it would need to be someone that I'm comfortable with day in and day out. Most people I know wear on me after a while. We'd probably need to have similar life goals in regards to finances and having a family. I'd appreciate someone who's educated, responsible, and caring. Idk, I haven't done serious relationships in a long time. I need to figure myself out first.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 11:04 PM
4

It's pretty douchey to tell other people what they're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 11:02 PM
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Man, literally everything has to revolve around sex with you guys huh? I guess if I voted for gay rights I'm just trying to fuck gay people, and if I volunteer at a soup kitchen I'm really just trying to fuck the homeless. That's certainly more plausible than a man have a different political opinion than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 07:23 PM
0

I can't find it, it was months ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 07:47 PM
0

Eh, to a degree. TRP preaches plenty of common sense stuff like "be confident, work out, stop worrying about rejection, etc". So take a kinda awkward virgin, give him a pep talk, and then sprinkle in some "men are awesome, women are whores! All women are craving for alpha cock, go be an alpha! Emotions are for women and pussies, ignore them! The reason you haven't had sex yet is because we live in a feminized society, now's the time to get your revenge!". Then boom, he gets laid and it's proof t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 07:33 PM
4

Yes it does. What else would it refer to?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 06:14 PM
0

They never told me why. I think a TRP mod on this sub said something to the effect of "Well we don't have any reasons listed why you're banned but you are so deal with it lol". I probably offered a viewpoint that they were offended by.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 06:13 PM
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Because its irrelevant for their world view. That's sounds a lot like "TRP tends to ignore anything that doesn't fit into their traditional hetero world-view." which is the first thing I said. It was the TRPer who was creating the drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 06:48 AM
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Eh, idk about this. Having sex with gay dudes is probably just as easy as women having sex with straight men. But there's been plenty of times where I've had the opportunity to have sex and passed it up because I was too lazy/gross at the time. Once when you know it's always available you kinda take it for granted. Like when I lived 2 miles away from the beach I hardly ever went because it was always just there, you know? If an average chick is in the mood for sex and wants to put in the effort …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 10:00 PM
7

If they were green they would die.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 09:57 PM
1

Ah yes, /r/alttrp. Filled with nuggets of wisdom like "gay men are women".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 08:07 PM
1

Lol you only hide under those qualifiers when you get called out. No TRPer ever says "All straight women are like that".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 06:38 PM
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TRP: We are the masters of gender and sexual strategy! Cool_kid_will: But wait, here's a ton of examples that don't fit with your worldview TRP: TRALALALA WE'RE IGNORING THAT.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 06:21 PM
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Yeah, TRP tends to ignore anything that doesn't fit into their traditional hetero world-view.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 06:07 PM
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Call it biased or false or whatever you want but that's the general public's perception of you guys. You seem to have missed that part. We were having a conversation about the perception of the men's rights movement, not what you guys actually stand for. Here, maybe this will help.
/r/MensRights26/06/15 04:23 AM
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you feel that our sub is hated because we stand up against false rape accusations and single dads being harassed in the company of their children? No, I feel that your sub is disliked because a greentext story (ie made up) from 4chan (ie a dislikable place) was one of the most representative pieces of content for your sub. And there's also the whole "filing hundreds of false rape reports" thing that you seem to have overlooked. You're so mad. I'm not even a feminist lol. I think it's hilarious h…
/r/MensRights26/06/15 04:12 AM
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Lol wait, everyone else in this thread is saying I'm a feminist. You guys need to get your accusations in order.
/r/MensRights26/06/15 01:39 AM
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MRAs: "feminism is the root of all problems for men!" Feminists: "Wow, all you guys really do is bitch about us huh?" MRAs: "Look, proof that they're harassing us!" Isn't it fun making these kinds of arguments! You don't even need to make valid points, all you have to do is make the other side look as silly as possible.
/r/MensRights26/06/15 12:55 AM
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Look at what most are saying about Cosby. You can look all over and the media starts out by taking the side of the woman more times than not. You're right, the only reason somebody would criticize a rapist is if they're a feminist and hate the MRM!
/r/MensRights26/06/15 12:43 AM
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Teach young men to treat women with respect Lol yup, this is clear proof that the feminazis have infiltrated the media. at least thinly veil your bigotry while launching your retarded missives against MRAs. Because if there's any group in society that has to deal with bigotry in modern day america it's online social groups. You guys have it nearly as bad as the bronies.
/r/MensRights26/06/15 12:08 AM
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The fact you jump straight to conspiracy demonstrates you aren't here in good faith, you're here to talk shit about the MRM. Lol you're the one who said "a lot of institutional power and media power arranged purposefully against us". What is that if not a conspiracy? Around the net, i've consistently seen the MRM get about as much welcome as feminists. And on this website I've seen /r/fatpeoplehate get more welcome than feminists. But that doesn't mean anything.
/r/MensRights25/06/15 10:54 PM
1

This started out by you saying "the public really likes us!" so I don't know what you're on about. the feminist controlled media God damn do all of you guys really believe this? This is the feminist controlled media you're talking about, right?
/r/MensRights25/06/15 09:41 PM
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there is a lot of institutional power and media power arranged purposefully against us to derail this movement because it goes against the feminist narrative The fact that you think "the institution" and media are controlled by a "feminist narrative" and actually care about a fucking subreddit is ridiculous. Go on Tumblr and they'll tell you the exact same thing about "The Patriarchy". Go on /r/conspiracy and they'll tell you that the Jews Zionists are the ones who control the media. Isn't it po…
/r/MensRights25/06/15 09:30 PM
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you come across as not entirely sympathetic to the MRM Then you have me all wrong. I think that the men's rights movement has some good points and I really wish there was a group that tried to actually fight for the rights of men, instead of just declaring Tumblr the #1 enemy of men in America. most people have a negative impression of Feminism, which is reflected in the very small percentage of people who identify as such (I think the latest poll indicated only 18% of the US population describe…
/r/MensRights25/06/15 09:19 PM
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Fine, not literally half the content on this sub is bitching about feminists. But that's still the perception of what the MRM is about. Most people see this sub as another spoke in the internet gender war, not as a force campaigning for the rights of men. The most famous thing this subreddit has ever done was submit all those false rape reports to that university.
/r/MensRights25/06/15 09:09 PM
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Lol I'm fucking posting on /r/mensrights, which is a subreddit on reddit. And you think I'm the one in a "feminist echo-chamber"? Most people have a negative impression of the men's rights movement. That's the truth of things even if you don't want to hear it.
/r/MensRights25/06/15 08:59 PM
-4

This post is one example. There's also this post on your front page
/r/MensRights25/06/15 08:18 PM
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The reason most people dislike the MRM is because of posts like this, you guys spend more time attacking feminists than you do supporting men's rights. There are legitimate issues facing men in America but when half the posts on this sub are "Can you believe what this feminist just said?!" then it's kinda hard to take your movement seriously.
/r/MensRights25/06/15 07:59 PM
3

I do. But this thread was about TRP's policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 12:25 AM
11

the Bluepill never or rarely satirizes stories where a guy gets cheated on, or learns his kids aren't biologically his, or gets humiliated in divorce. Maybe they have empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 12:24 AM
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you can point out holes in the theory No you can't. This is not a democratic sub and it never will be. If we "deprive you your freedom of speech" - tough. Our community, our rules. We rule with an iron fist, albeit, a benevolent one. As much as we can understand your logic, we cannot respect it. It is not in the best interest of the community's survival to entertain all and any hypothetical intellectual tangents that are thrown our way; or to open ourselves to meandering scrutiny. If your reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 12:20 AM
1

It's not just "shaming language". The mods of TRP literally say that any disagreement with TRP philosophy or mods will result in a ban. So either you blindly follow everything they say or you're not welcome there. But hey, at least you're not part of a circlejerk like those silly SJWs amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 12:17 AM
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So by labelling it a "circlejerk", that gives you special privileges for shutting down dissent? I don't know what "special privileges" you're talking about but at least BP admits that they're a circlejerk. TRP likes to pretend that they're above that and deal with the truth but they'll still shut down any discussion that they don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 12:11 AM
1

when you see another red or just like in the asktrp area, being with a low value gutter bitch, do you not feel a similar kind of disappointment in the man? No. I don't care who people fuck. you must be aware of how tied to each other we all are? In a broader sense, sure. But I don't see how other people having sex affects me. should a person not think humans can do better than that? You can think whatever you want man. But there's no need to judge other people for having different priorities tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 10:27 PM
-1

AWALT doesn't mean AWALT XD Try saying that on TRP and see how they react.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 10:11 PM
0

All women are like that. As in, every single one. Unless you're one of the apologists who says "AWALT doesn't mean AWALT XD"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 10:09 PM
1

So you'd consider SRS to be an open forum?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 10:05 PM
3

I think it's very SJW if you to take 120k people and say "they all suffer from the same psychiatric disorder, and I've figured out its this one based on reading a few hundred posts and comments". Yeah. You're a logical person who agrees with stuff like "These 3.5 billion people all behave the same way" based on reading a few hundred posts and comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 09:53 PM
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the reason that shaming language has to be banned is because TRP is an open forum
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 09:51 PM
0

If you want to phrase it that way, sure. If you're a woman and you want a man then you have to wear make-up. Because men would rather look at a mixture of chemicals than the natural beauty of their partners. If you want to have a good body then you need to prioritize lifting things up and putting them down again rather than doing things like studying science or volunteering at charities. If you want to have a comfortable retirement then you need to save up and not donate that money to help feed …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 09:43 PM
2

Fine, sure. But you're trying to jump through a lot of hoops to get to your "Women are defective and there's no justification for liking them! Also everything I just said applies to men but ignore that " conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 09:31 PM
2

Eh, I think most men are unattractive because we let them get away with not taking care of their appearance. The standards for male hygiene, fashion, grooming, and fitness are much lower than the ones we apply to women. I'm usually only into gay guys because they generally take care of themselves. Straight guys won't think twice about not shaving for a few days and wearing a videogame T-shirt in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 09:24 PM
1

if we accept that women are attracted to guys that don't care about them.... Well I don't accept so I don't know how much there is to discuss. At the very least it's a "have you stopped beating your wife?" kind of premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 09:15 PM
3

when you see people moving and running their lives with sex as the main motivation... instead of pursuit of something greater, yes it is disappointing. It's disappointing that people have different motivations than you? As long as they're not hurting anyone else, who cares what people do with their free time? I don't see how wanting a lot of sex is any less valid than really liking music or working out a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 09:12 PM
1

I read an article that the Charleston shooter was pushed over the edge when he was cuckolded by a black guy. Lol I wouldn't trust any article that blames the deaths of innocents on "black men are cuckolding our women!"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 09:09 PM
6

Eh, it's part of that whole "you want what you can't have" thing. This applies to both genders, I've known several guys who suddenly fell head over heels in love with their Gfs after they get dumped. There's also correlation at play here. The kind of partner who isn't desperate for your attention is likely to have other options, which means that they're desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 09:07 PM
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Anthony Weiner has his naked pictures leak? releasing private photos of anyone is deplorable and should be outlawed. Then we should arrest Anthony Weiner because he's the one who leaked his photos.
/r/MensRights22/06/15 09:32 PM
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Brevity is a thing. Kinda like how "women are like that" is shorter than "all women are like that". Maybe you should use the shorter version.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 06:35 PM
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So... when you were a kid you had an unrealistic view of the world? Then change your view and get over it. Not all of us needed to join an online forum declaring "all women are sluts!" to get over some bad advice we got.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 05:54 PM
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What are you on about? Who's saying that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 05:53 PM
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Men are ridiculously shitty with their emotions. Some guys try to even deny that they have any at all (besides maybe anger and happiness). That makes men terrible at recognizing how they feel and the best way to deal with it. The whole notion that "men are the logical gender" is BS. We just pretend that we aren't affected by our emotions which ironically makes us more susceptible to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 05:51 PM
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I think all of these terms are retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 05:48 PM
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Maybe my life is just filled with a lot more interesting people than yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 09:53 PM
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How is this simple question shaping up to be the most complex question to grace PPD. It's not a simple question, you're literally asking us to list half of the people we've ever known in our entire lives. And saying "my question is gracing the likes of you" is pretty douchey.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 08:09 PM
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TRP's main focus is self improvement in every aspect of your life. That's weird, TRPers on this sub constantly claim "TRP is just sexual strategy!". Well, as long as this definition suits you right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/15 04:52 AM
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Because we only talk about women ? TRP talks about men all the time. Alpha males and beta orbiters. The second top post of all time on TRP is talking about how men feel. But when it comes to concepts like "hypergamy" or "AWALT" suddenly you guys turn super hetero and start justifying why you'd never speak bad things about men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 08:13 PM
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That definition of hypergamy applies to both genders. Why does TRP only use it to talk about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 07:06 PM
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I've only read the generic ones. How to win friends and influence people. 7 habits of highly effective people. Millionaire next door.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 07:01 PM
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I think it's kinda like TRP's "AWALT mindset". Like, even if The Secret is totally false it still helps you to have that mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 07:00 PM
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This is really weird.... I don't understand what she's doing at this point. I guess since she graduated college she has to keep her name in the headlines somehow. It's really not helping her cause though. If you watch this video without my consent, then I hope you reflect on your reasons for objectifying me and participating in my rape Yeah she's got to be baiting at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 06:20 PM
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rok as a brand/site isn't really that well known. Neither is AVFM. But at least ROK is controversial enough to get "outrage!" exposure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 06:18 PM
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I'd say more people would have heard of ROK's stories though, even if they don't know the publication. The whole "anti-feminists get angry at Mad Max" got a lot of publicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 06:10 PM
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Since you don't know how annotations work, Source.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 06:08 PM
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It's literally in the OP of this post... did you watch the video?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 10:48 AM
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What kind of lazy idiot gives up success because he's afraid of a 5% chance of infidelity? TRP doesn't focus on financial success, it focuses on getting women. Why does it recommend a strategy that will statistically make it more likely that a woman will cheat on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 07:38 AM
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Having a large amount of pre-marital sex partners increases the likelihood that that person will cheat. Therefore, TRP tells men to not LTR sluts Being financially dependent on your SO makes you more likely to cheat. So far some reason, TRP tells men to be the bread-winner in their relationships Anyone care to justify this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 12:08 AM
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I'm an ultraviolet pill because I identify as a mantis shrimp.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 10:34 PM
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It does. Dating advice is everywhere. Some of it's good, a lot of it is bad. Just like TRP. I've never seen good advice on TRP that I haven't seen somewhere else first.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 10:13 PM
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I guess. TRP speaks in absolute terms (AWALT, Briffault's Law, alpha/beta, etc) and if you disagree with the mods you get banned. So "officially speaking" that's not what TRP is about, but if you think the advice is more effective when taken in moderation then good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 09:49 PM
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And men expect women to wax their body hair but men don't even wax their own body hair. MRAs are hypocritical!!!!! /s People holding others to higher standards than themselves is nothing new. Who cares what other people want you to be attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 06:03 PM
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If a nursery rhyme is the best example of society telling us that men are evil then it's a pretty shitty concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 01:33 AM
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From the time we are born, at a very young age, we are taught that boys are bad and girls are good. Oh get over yourself. Who's teaching that? Are you seriously basing your perspective on gender from nursery rhymes? You know, people named "Jack" tend to do a lot of dumb things in fairy tales. Is "society teaching us that people named Jack are imbeciles from a very early age"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 11:04 PM
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It's not a straw man, that's literally what you said. "everything written were symptoms of feminism". Deforestation, earthquakes, and malaria were a few of the problems that were written.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 05:20 PM
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If you want us to think that your knowledge level of history is on par with the quality of the History Channel, I'd agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 04:37 PM
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everything written were symptoms of feminism. You believe that deforestation, earthquakes, and malaria are symptoms of feminism? Do you also think that gay people cause hurricanes?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 04:35 PM
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Eh, I might be lazy but I least I didn't attempt the gymnastics you pulled up there. I think those quotes are pretty self-evident.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 04:34 PM
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All words you don't like or don't fit your narrative are labeled "hate" I actually didn't say hate, that's your word. Just like you used "anger" and "warning" to describe those quotes about women. My original point was that "TRP loves women" is a fucking stupid statement. Nothing in your post addressed that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 04:12 PM
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It's so obvious I'm unable to explain it!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 03:03 AM
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If it isn't obvious and you're unable to explain it then yes, I guess there is no use in trying to understand what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 02:51 AM
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More men are in the military than women, so veteran benefits help men more than it helps women. I don't see what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 02:20 AM
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I think there's multiple servers depending on your location. But you're on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 01:39 AM
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You don't get to define other people's politics for them. Otherwise I could just say "TRP is a forum devoted to abusing women. I'll prove this with a litany of posts".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 10:46 PM
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Your comment: Feminism= giving benefits to women at the expense of men while removing all obligations from women. And in your OP: Feminism= death of the culture that practices it. And from feminists: Feminism = the belief that men and women should have equal rights This is why feminism is such a useless term nowadays. It means so many things that it doesn't mean anything. You have to add all of these qualifiers to make sure that your side isn't feminism but all bad things are, or vice versa if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:35 PM
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Your article doesn't explain shit. It just keeps saying that "US entitlements are a ticking timebomb" (which the GOP has been saying for decades). It assumes that we're already living in a government controlled by feminists and that's why entitlements are linked to them... and offers no proof as to how or why feminists are in power. The only sources it provides are links to other opinion pieces on the same website! You still haven't explained how something that mostly benefits women is feminist.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:12 PM
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Most people who read Twilight were women, does that make it a feminist book? Victoria's Secret mostly sells to women, is that a feminist store? Calling welfare "feminist" just seems like a weird insult. Most of the entitlements go to old people anyways (social security and medicare), regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:02 PM
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the feminist welfare state Sorry, I can't take anyone who uses that term seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:40 PM
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most women are stupid cunts. American Women are Incapable of Feeding Themselves Responsibly Women are herd animals. Never accept food from a woman, unless you've seen her cook it or buy it. you can never trust a woman. You can only trust her to be a woman. Men and women can't JUST be friends women have no loyalty beyond their own narcissism Women suck at empathy. I don't hate women, I just don't respect them, and unless many changes within their gender come about, I never will. Yup, because when…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:38 PM
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I mean, you have to be approachable in the first place but my point is that "waiting to be approached by someone you're interested in" does work.... as long as you're interested in a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:16 PM
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I mean, women have more bodyfat than men. This is basic biology. That doesn't mean they're necessarily unhealthier or lazier or anything though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:01 PM
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but when she's picking her male partners she acts exactly the way straight women do. she gets more picky, she expects him to do all the legwork, etc. I mean, you're not wrong. But at the same time you could phrase all that as, "bisexual women need to go out of their way to find a chick to hook up with. But if they want a man then no worries, men are willing to do all the work". I stopped putting in effort in dating guys because it's so easy. Why would I work hard at something that people are wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 07:59 PM
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Imagine you're a gay guy - just waiting to be approached by someone you're interested in won't work out because a) there's a high chance he's not interested in men and will not approach you or b) even if he is interested in you, he might think that you're straight and not approach you anyway. I wouldn't say that's true, the guy I'm currently dating sent me the first message on a dating site. You have to put yourself in the right place (a gay bar, gay neighborhood, dating site, etc) but I get app…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 07:57 PM
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I'll do a full write up of how it goes and post it somewhere Please do. I have a feeling we'll get some good copypasta from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 07:02 PM
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Instead of trusting data from the CDC, let's make up our own facts to fit with our pre-existing views. Because we're men and men use logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 04:39 AM
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Whoopsie, the chart previous to that was just using 3 partners in that column. Still though, the median amount of partners for women aged 25-29 is still just 3.6. I don't think that's "obscenely high".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:14 AM
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I'm not watching that video. And your post is pretty biased or just trying to get a rise out of people. But yeah, female privilege totally exists just like male privilege does. This debate always seems to turn into "well my gender has it worse!" which I feel kinda misses the point. Each gender has their own set of advantages and problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 11:29 PM
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I don't like TRP either but claiming that they advocate for rape and murder is a bit of a stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 11:19 PM
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You don't get it, whenever a TRPer does something questionable it's "sexual strategy is amoral" or "women do the same thing so we're just leveling the playing field". But whenever a woman does something questionable it's "here's definitive proof that all women are immoral creatures".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 10:13 PM
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If you're asking if one is likely to find a 25 year old with 2 partners? I'll agree that it is asking for too much, because the going rate is obscenely high (8-10 partners) 66.8% of women aged 25-29 have had 3 partners or fewer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 10:10 PM
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I read for millenials the average is 8. I just looked up the source, it uses median and not average, my bad. So we could both be right. But the median number of sexual partners for women aged 15-44 is 3.2. For women aged 30-34 that number is 4.2, and for women aged 20-24 it's 2.6. Granted, this data is nearly a decade old but I'd be surprised if those numbers doubled since 2006-2008. Is TRP "unreasonable" with the way they describe women with more sexual partners? I think so, but they're allowed…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 10:06 PM
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You're allowed to have whatever standards you want. If your standards are unreasonable or unrealistic, you're probably going to be alone for a long, long time Finally at 24 she enters an LTR with a guy she likes which brings her to the 8th lay. This story is pretty typical imo for both guys and girls. Having 8 sexual partners is over twice the average for women, so no I wouldn't say it's "typical".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 09:52 PM
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I also love the idea that it's a "waste of chemicals". Like there's some "chemical shortage!" that make-up is contributing to or something lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 04:38 PM
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it still goes strong because it works. It works to deceive us into thinking that girl we see has a special attractiveness and great health. If women had the guts to play on a level playing field they would ditch it. You realize that you can wear make-up too, right? If you had the balls to play on a level playing field you'd put on some foundation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 04:38 PM
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Go on Tumblr and you can make all kinds of generalizations based on the anecdotes there. It doesn't mean it's valid though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 07:34 PM
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And in practice, men make almost 50% more than women! Sure, this can mostly be explained through personal actions but why aren't men more considerate of the unintended consequences? Proof that men are out to get feeemales, whether they intend on doing it or not!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 07:33 PM
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There's no affirmative action for gender in college admissions. Alimony and child support can go either way, the man just usually pays because the man usually makes more money. Sexual/physical assault has nothing to do with "average" people. Women aren't out to get you dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 06:26 PM
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Same deal when you're white. All white people are like that!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 06:23 PM
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Hyperbole: exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally That's a perfect description of AWALT. Do you literally believe that all women are rapists? Or is that just an exaggerated statement to prove a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 06:22 PM
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Wait, "all women are 'not all women' until they behave like 'all women'"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 06:21 PM
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If women cheat or commit adultery, there is almost no consequence for it either. In fact, this is seen as a form of female empowermen. welfare checks in USA will make you get more money than a postgraduate student. What world are you living in? men still face a big risk when they interact with women. Because the systems and incentives in place allow any and all women, no matter if they are NAWALT or not, to go full retard and fuck you up with little to no consequences for doing so. I interact wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 06:19 PM
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You can do both. I'm attractive, want to experiment with me? ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 03:37 AM
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This just in, people are attracted to attractive people!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 03:29 AM
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Let me guess, this going to be another one of those "TRP tells men to work out and be confident. What does BP offer as an alternative?" posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 02:06 AM
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You haven't defined what "BP culture" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 02:05 AM
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TRP frames everything from an economic context, which is interesting to think about but fails when you try and use it to explain real world interactions. The economy dictates how general trends go but people are human, for better or for worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 02:03 AM
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If you would do it, then why is "wasting your 20s"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 01:59 AM
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My unqualified opinion is that it's a mixture of biological and societal influences, like most things in psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 11:55 PM
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society tolerates weak women but not weak men. Couldn't that be a reason why men feel there is no other emotional outlet other than anger?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 11:48 PM
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To me "experimenting" just means "trying new things". In our porn saturated culture we've all seen things that we've never personally done before, and most of us probably want to try some of them. Usually she wanted to be more than just fuck buddies so she would go out of her way sexually to please them in hopes that they would make her their girlfriend. She knew from the first couple times she didn’t like doing certain things, yet she kept doing them because of the chance of commitment. You're …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 11:40 PM
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Why is that hard to understand? Because you're going from one inaccurate generalization to another. If you feel that society was misleading you in some way, adjust your viewpoint. You don't need to take the complete opposite stance. operate instead under the assumption that women are just as malicious as men are Lol since when does TRP assume negative things about men and women equally? You're not being skeptical of everybody, you're singling out one gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 11:29 PM
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Experimenting having a one night stand Experimenting oral (both sides) Experimenting anal Experimenting with the same gender Experimenting with different races Experimenting with people from different backgrounds There's a whole lot out there to experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 11:24 PM
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women waste their 20s banging guys out of their league. If you could spend your 20s banging people out of your league, wouldn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 11:22 PM
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people find stuff attractive prior to having their dick inside them Right, I never denied that. But you don't know everything you're attracted to without actually doing it. There's plenty of stuff that I like in fantasy but not real life and vice versa. I really can't understand where you're coming from. If you think something sounds hot, you want to try it right? And not everything that seems sexy will actually turn out to be. I mean, maybe I'm just a sexual deviant but I assumed that's how mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 11:21 PM
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I hate that TRP can only talk in extremes. According to you guys society views women as precious little flowers who can do no harm. So TRP has to come in and explain that all women are gold-digging sluts who will back-stab you the first opportunity they get, because they're ruthless bitches with the maturity of children/animals. Hey, maybe women are just people and all of this hyperbolic language is nonsense. Men and women have a lot more in common than there are differences. I grew up in a very…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 11:12 PM
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You're giving too much credit to teenagers/young adults. Someone in their early 20s has no idea what they're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 11:06 PM
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It's not as if women don't know whom is attractive until they sleep with them. I'd disagree with that. How do you know you'll be into something until you try it? I didn't even realize I was bisexual until I went down that route. Practically everyone tries shit out in college. it's not as if there is a dichotomy where attractive men can't be good husbands. It's just that they can't lock those men down. Couldn't you say the exact same thing about Rock Stars sleeping with hot groupies? Sometimes th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 11:04 PM
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Well thanks for explaining your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 10:11 PM
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women when they are younger sleep around with guys out of their league If you sleep with someone, aren't they by definition "in your league"? I find the whole concept of attractiveness numbers (eg she's a HB8) and leagues to be silly. It just seems like a way for INTJs to understand normal human behavior. when a woman wants to settle down and get married, she often can’t get the same guy she used to date so she has to go down in attractiveness. Or maybe people just experiment and sleep around a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 10:05 PM
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I'm really trying to fix my sleep schedule. It's probably my biggest problem right now (which I'm grateful for) but I'll be a lot better once when I get it under control. I go through phases of working out, I just started getting back into it. I'm super sore since I took a few months off but I'd like to have an acceptable body for summer. I'm taking work more seriously now and started some classes that will help me advance. I'm going to online college in my spare time. I'm also learning how to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 08:48 PM
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Most people here are purple even if they don't state it in their tags. Most TRPers in this sub won't side with the crazy "anger phase" stuff on /r/TheRedPill, and most neutrals/blues concede that TRP has some legitimate advice behind all the misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 08:45 PM
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Everyone generalizes. That doesn't mean it's healthy or accurate to assume negative things about people you've never met. Especially when you're saying that everyone in that group behaves that way. It's fine to say "women are shorter than men" or "women are short". But it would be ridiculous to say "all women are shorter than men. If you meet a woman, assume that she's shorter than you and never give her a chance to prove otherwise. This advice will work most of the time which is all that matter…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 08:42 PM
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I love my dick. Some people aren't used to uncircumcised guys but it's always been good to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 12:06 AM
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You're right I'm sorry, it's "Gina Tingles"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 04:24 PM
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But isn't all of TRP framed through sexual dynamics? Do you date both men and women in order to accurately say "women do this more often?"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 04:23 PM
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Because men are clearly above making shit up in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 04:21 PM
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If you have a stereotype of a group but you're willing to put it aside when an individual shows they don't adhere to it then it need not create prejudice and become harmful. So you unironically say "oh, you're one of the good ones"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 11:19 PM
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I remember that there was a nice feminist SJW video that cast blacks in a very unflattering light not too long ago, a video you guys applauded to. What do you mean "you guys"? avoiding certain areas because they're inhabited by less affluent PoC isn't necessariy a racist move. Uh, avoiding them because they're POC is a racist move. it's funny how you didn't even try to argue that men are considered pedophiles by default under specific circumstances. That's exactly my point. Making unfounded nega…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 10:48 PM
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a guy is obligated to deal with women as if they're angels incapable of any wrongdoing by default Why are we only allowed to talk in hyperbole in this sub? It's like we're just battling the strawmen that we constructed right next to each other's actual points. Of course meeting with him in a public area where she's reasonable safe if she has a weirdo on her hands. If you meet anybody online you should do it in a public area. That has nothing to do with gender. similar cases can be made for the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 10:04 PM
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All men are rapists All dads with children in public are child predators All blacks will rob you Yup, no way these generalizations could ever be used to promote harmful ideologies! After all, I'm just telling people to be careful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 09:24 PM
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So what does "That" mean then? What are all women like?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 09:21 PM
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All women are like that. Except for the ones who aren't. Also men are like that too but we're not talking about them right now. So really it would be more accurate to say "Some people are like that". So in conclusion: "All women are like that" Also, men are the logical gender and women say things that aren't true because it makes them feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 09:20 PM
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Yeah, basing your entire life around sex is pretty sad. I mean, do what you want but it's good to have some balance. That's why I dislike it when TRPers frame literally everything through sex. Personal values, hobbies/interests, and being a good person apparently don't mean anything compared to "BUT DID YOU MAKE HER GINEY TINGLE?!" But hey, it's your life to live, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 09:17 PM
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He was a fucking NFL player. He was like twice her size. She shouldn't have been slapping him but he just straight up knocked her out. There's a reason why society doesn't tolerate men like Ray Rice and Floyd Maywe- oh wait. I guess society is fine with men who beat their wives. I just used an anecdotal example so you can't argue against it!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 04:28 PM
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Lol like half of the things you listed were women complaining about their problems. no persecution of sports icons for hitting back to defend themselves Are you seriously using Ray Rice as an example for how men are persecuted in society?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 06:33 AM
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Just like /u/Mispillformation said, the sub goes through cycles. There's been a few times where I've seen all the TRPers get downvoted even if they were making decent points. Overall it's not too big a deal, there's still plenty of debate to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 10:03 PM
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You know, for a group that claims to not care about or want women, they sure spend a lot of time talking about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 09:04 PM
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Eh, I've seen plenty of guys on /r/MGTOW who still date and screw women. They just say that they don't want their lives to be defined or controlled by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 08:58 PM
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I'm still not seeing the difference between this and MGTOW. Also, lol at trying to link testosterone levels and metrosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 08:30 PM
3

Nope, you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 08:26 PM
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Have you seen this fictional TV show? It accurately portrays a society I never lived in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 08:13 PM
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He took no vows, made no promises. Again, that has nothing to do with being an asshole. If I see you walking towards the elevator and I shut it, I'm an asshole. I took no vows to hold it open for you but we can all agree on a basic set of behaviors that prevent us from assholery. Like "don't fuck people in relationships".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 09:46 PM
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Owing a "duty" has nothing to do with being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 09:32 PM
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However, at my work I see a lot of women and the younger guys complain to our boss about how they need the night off because they have "a social life" or some other juvenile excuse for not fulfilling the duties they signed up to take on There's no need to look down on people who have different priorities than you. People need to work but not everyone values money as much as a social life or family time. But yes, the simplest and most accurate thing to say about the wage gap is that women make le…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 02:45 PM
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Idk, you'd have to ask them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 07:36 AM
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Maybe not RP theories, but RP tactics like abundance mentality, aloofness, holding frame, cockiness and teasing, and attitude of a high SMV man So in other words: being confident, having options, not being a pushover, working out, being socially competent, and acting playful? Aka none of the reasons why people debate TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 06:50 AM
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Why Women And Gays Should Not Be Allowed In Male-Safe Spaces I could've sworn this article specifically said that gay men should not be allowed in the same locker room as straight guys but I remembered that incorrectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 06:47 AM
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I just don't want the circlejerk entering PPD. That's going to happen regardless of TBP. Idiots are everywhere on the internet. it seems to me that BP users condemn RP tactics, so they wouldn't use it in the first place. OR, they have used it and found out that TRP doesn't work. OR, they don't care about how effective TRP is at getting your dick wet and debate it from a moral position.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 06:15 AM
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You seem pretty reasonable, ty for calling out Hannity for the same BS 70% statistic that feminists use. If someone like him can get on TV.... maybe I should give it a shot. They're not looking for qualified people, they're looking for entertaining people. Especially programs like Sean Hannity, they love finding caricatures of the groups they're talking about. Like Cliven Bundy and the surfer welfare dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 06:10 AM
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No one knows what BP even stands for. I know, people call me BP all the time. Why not just be non-RP when debating here? Why not have BP flair while debating here? BP offers nothing, haven't experienced using RP tactics That's a baseless assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 06:00 AM
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Lol oh man, the bearded guy made a good point for like 10 seconds until "this is nature's and god's way of saying that women should be at home with the children". Even Sean Hannity had to groan.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 05:58 AM
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It's a drama-free zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 05:53 AM
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You seem to have this idea that if someone likes /r/thebluepill then they shouldn't be allowed to ever debate TRP ideas anywhere else. Like if someone enjoyed watching the Colbert Report then they can't talk about politics on a different platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 05:48 AM
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And TRP has denied saying bad things about women. We all have our fun things to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 05:47 AM
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Well you're clearly determined to convince yourself that society has it out for you. I won't get in your way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 05:32 AM
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You do realize that "suffering" and "suffrage" are two different things, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 05:15 AM
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We're physically stronger, it's easier to be a male pro athlete than a female pro athlete, we pay less for cars, you don't have to worry about getting pregnant, no periods, your appearance doesn't matter as much, most religions say that men are the leaders, you're less likely to suffer from depression and anxiety, you're less likely to face sexual harassment, you're less likely to be a victim of domestic violence, and bathroom lines are shorter. If you're a healthy, single, white man living in A…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 05:12 AM
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And men get plenty of advantages that women don't. I hate this whole "no my side has it worse!" argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 04:53 AM
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Sorry, but I can't seriously listen to anyone who says that I shouldn't be allowed in locker rooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 04:30 AM
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I hate people who assume negative things about me because I'm a woman! You're entitled How could you possibly know that? Because you're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 03:00 AM
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What about ROK, do you think they seriously believe all the bullshit they spout?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 02:57 AM
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any man who has the guts to question that is just a misogynist Well no. But people who claim "women are incapable of change" or "women's suffrage was a mistake" are misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 02:54 AM
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You really can't justify attraction or a lack of it. If that's what guys are into that's fine, and they don't need an explanation. When they judge other people's character based on their sexual history I'll speak up but in terms of attraction I really don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 11:43 PM
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/r/shitredditsays. They're a circlejerk sub that makes fun of reddit's homophobia, racism, sexism, etc. They're easily offended and not well liked on this site.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 08:28 PM
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About half of women whose favorite fantasies involved submission said they wouldn't want to actually act it out. Half of 65% is 32.5%. I wouldn't consider a third of all women to be "a vast majority".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 08:48 PM
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I don't believe that and I haven't seen any evidence either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 08:34 PM
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A woman is expected to have a low n count, yet put out in 3 dates. TRPers claim to not LTR their plates. The chicks that they're sleeping with in the first few dates are supposedly not the same ones worthy of marrying them. Most men settle down in their late 20s/30s. When women do the same they are accused of... TRPers are sexist, they treat men and women differently. Even they don't deny this. It's not a fallacy, it's just prejudice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 08:01 PM
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Saying "I want a partner that will follow my lead" is fine. Saying "it's a woman's natural place to be submissive. If you're not an alpha leader then your wife will cheat on you." is not fine. why does TBP seem to care so much Because I disagree with something you said on the internet, fite me IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 07:57 PM
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Sex is a lot of fun, a good way to kill time, and a slight workout. That's pretty much it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 06:44 PM
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the idealism of "Objectivism" is somewhat commendable and the self-sufficiency / personal responsibility aspect of it is something I hope everyone takes away from it. Yeah, I feel the same way. I think that's a super empowering philosophy to apply to your personal life. Take control of your destiny and don't expect anyone to do your work for you. Decide what you want and then set out to do it. Don't let the purpose of your life be decided by others and don't let society tell you that your tastes…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 06:38 PM
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You guys just want the legitimacy of science without being held to the same standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 12:30 PM
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I also watch bill burr.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 03:10 AM
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So alphas never admit when they make mistakes? They don't hold themselves accountable for their own actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 12:48 AM
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Go on TRP and look for a definition there! No not that definition, use this other definition instead! This is exactly my point. Also, I love that in the definition for alpha they reference "alpha behaviors" and "alpha tendancies". (I thought it was spelled "tendencies" but what would I know compared to the wisdom of TRP).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 11:46 PM
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Ok, I'll look for what TRP defines as alpha: Alpha = makes vaginas tingle. Beta = does not make vaginas tingle Therefore, since women find male celebrities attractive, they are alphas by TRP's definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 11:42 PM
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Male celebrities may have alpha status, but that is often perceived as being contingent on having good PR and being obsequious to populist sentiments. So being well liked and having common opinions are now beta qualities? I guess it would be beta if a person changes their views to match up with the popular consensus but how would you know if they did? Most people believe the earth is round. I believe that too, so I guess I'm a beta for agreeing with the "populist sentiment".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 11:20 PM
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I want it explained. What's the point of coming to a debate sub to vomit your opinions all over the place without justifying any of them? Especially when it comes to stuff like "alphas" and "betas" which different people define differently. People tend to just say stuff like "I'm an alpha" or "you're a beta" without even explaining what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 11:17 PM
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So.... are you going to explain that at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 10:53 PM
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Being rich, attractive, and desired are now beta qualities?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 10:26 PM
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You know, for a group of guys that claim to not care about women they sure seem to think about them a lot. This whole post reads like the grass is greener. They literally describe raising multiple toddlers as "a life of leisure", and then they claim it gets easier from there!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 10:05 PM
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There is a reason the sexual revolution is perfectly in line with the decline of the middle class and the American Dream The decline of the middle class also correlates with the popularity of rock n roll. I'm going to blame that instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 08:22 PM
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He's a leader and literally a god so in that sense he's alpha. But he also lived to serve others, which is like the definition of beta. He even washed other people's feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 08:21 PM
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I'd say so but obviously everyone is going to be biased. I will point out that women put way more effort into their appearance than men do so that could be a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 08:19 PM
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"Women control men with sex" in the same way that "TRP manipulates women". If that's the way you want to word it, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 07:09 PM
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Your You're allowed to post. Yeah, you're allowed to post if you agree with TRP. If you don't you get banned. That's like saying "gay people already can get married! They just have to marry someone of the opposite gender". You're repeating everything else that you said to me and it seems like you're not even reading what I'm writing. I'm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 08:01 AM
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the debate is here. Yes, you're absolutely right. This is the subreddit where people actually debate. This is where people make unique observations, test out hypothesis, and figure out what's accurate. This is where people can say what they think is accurate, rather than what they think will conform to the TRP dogma. What's wrong with a system of error correction that concentrates itself on discussing evidence of those that keep it up, on one sub.... And those that believe the technique doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 07:56 AM
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refinement of process TRP only refines data that they already agree with. hypothesis I already quoted the TRP mods in this thread. You agree with the TRP conclusions or you get banned from /r/theredpill. That's not a hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 05:26 AM
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You have the "observation" part of the scientific process. That's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 03:32 AM
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That wasn't very fun. And you completely avoided why you apply different standards to men and women, which was my entire point. But feel free to have whatever argument it is that you're having with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 02:11 AM
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Nope. But they might as well be. Please don't be so predictable to say what I think you're going to say next....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 02:04 AM
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Yes, if that did I happen I would be living there. So I'm happy that it hasn't happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:59 AM
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Treat it like entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:57 AM
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I'm sure there's plenty of shitty countries out there with laws like that already. I'm glad I'm not living there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:51 AM
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I see, so when you deliberately ignore reality it's for a good reason. But when a woman does it it's "hamstering".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:51 AM
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TRP posters are not indicative of people who have tried RP, that is right. They are indicative of people who tried RP and had some success. As to confirmation bias, of course there is confirmation bias. Right, that's my point as to why Field Reports aren't admissible evidence. You seem to be saying "well it's the best evidence we have!" but it's not even evidence at all. Evidence needs to be verifiable. Evidence needs to be repeatable. Evidence needs to be peer reviewed (and no, not by anonymous…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 12:04 AM
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I'm more just laughing at the irony of a TRPer saying "hey, this sub makes my gender feel unwelcome! Maybe you should tone down your language."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 11:47 PM
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This kind of double speak is fascinating. You should be a politician. You criticize religious groups by saying: "They're not interested in correction. Those organisations 'have the truth' and will defend it from reality.". Yet you defend your mods who say: "If your reasoning is not backed by an intent to further the philosophy, but merely tries to scrutinize it, then it is a detriment to the philosophy we cannot tolerate." and "Any form of open debate we hold, any form of scrutiny we entertain, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 11:43 PM
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That "error correcting systems" are better than "a man talking, then a man in a big hat forcing adherents to hold those views" Then why did the mods just make a post saying "In light of this, TRP proper will never facilitate debate about the values we hold, why we hold them, as well as far out philosophical notions such as "should we hold them?" - This is deemed concern trolling and will result, quite rationally unreasonably, but for the intent of our goals: most reasonably, in a ban." They lite…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 11:19 PM
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AWALT is wrong but believe it anyways to prevent hope and ignorance from growing. So your advice is to ignore reality to make your feeelings feel better instead? Doesn't TRP consider that a female trait?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 11:16 PM
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You just wasted 5m of my time only to look silly. So you say "TRP isn't science", and I linked a post saying "TRP is science", and I'm the one who looks silly. Sure. And sorry for wasting your time, it's clearly valuable since you're having a debate on reddit. If it don't work.... People say "it didn't work for me" and guys reading along at home think "it didn't work for me either" and we start correcting ourself No, if guys read TRP stuff and it doesn't work in real life, they'll stop going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 11:13 PM
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Because TRP isn't science, duh!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 11:01 PM
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As far as I can tell gay dudes are just massive sluts trying to get laid all the time. I'm sure some guys are out there trying to get married but everything I've seen has been partying and casual sex. It's even common for men in gay relationships to have a open sex policy. But that might just be because I'm young and living in a liberal city.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 10:22 PM
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there is very little incentive for women to do the approaching when men are more willing to do it. Oh absolutely, I totally understand why women don't approach. I just think it's frustrating that they don't. If anything, it's almost an issue of pride for me. I hate feeling like I have to be the one to put in all the work while somebody else gets to coast. That's part of the reason I've mostly been with dudes the last couple years haha, that's my "easy way out".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 09:55 PM
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RP are not claiming RP uses scientific standards of proof. You should tell your mod that. Or this post claiming "Remember, Red Pill is science, not religion" On FRs. These are largely accurate. lol How do you know they're accurate? Even by checking it with that user's posting history, you're only referencing the field report with other self-selected anonymously submitted information. By "self-selected" I mean that the people who submit field reports have to go out of their way to do so. That's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 09:06 PM
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༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ------> win
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 08:46 PM
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Yeah, I wish I could find this one quote talking about the word "should". It basically said that whenever you say something in life "should" be different, all you're doing is complaining that things aren't the way you want them to be and you're just admitting defeat. I wish I could find the quote because it sounded a lot better when I read it....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 08:17 PM
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If you (as a woman) are going to generalize and argument, you seriously need to stop countering arguments with specifics. You're right, only men/TRP can draw specific conclusions and advice from broad generalizations!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 08:12 PM
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Yeah, if women go on strike then any "scabs" would have their pick of the litter considering how horny guys are. It's kinda like since people slut-shame women that sleep around, any women that do have lots of casual sex have a big advantage in that realm.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 08:08 PM
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Wait, I thought men were the ones doing that now. With all the talk about herbivore men in japan and incels and MGTOW it seems like men are the ones checking out of the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 08:07 PM
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Personally, I'd like it if women would start taking more initiative. Making first contact with new people, being the one to ask somebody out, asking for raises more often, choosing to go into higher paying careers, etc. I honestly think that most of the problems that women face in America could be solved by women. But I'm mostly saying this from a selfish perspective and from a guy's point of view so idk. I don't really know or care what TRP's suggestions are, but they claim to be about "gaming …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 07:33 PM
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This thread just rubbed me the wrong way as it seemed rather hostile toward male posters. top kek
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 07:16 PM
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Yeah, it's the toupee fallacy. People say "toupees look terrible, you can always tell when someone's wearing one!". But that's because people only categorize hair as a toupee when they notice it, which by definition would make it a bad toupee.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 07:13 PM
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Yeah go for it. Maybe it's just because I'm from LA but I've never had a problem with artificially making yourself look better (make-up, hair plugs, breast implants, teeth whitening, waxing, tanning, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 07:10 PM
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a lot of men dont seem to like being loved like women want to be loved. Even if this statement is true it doesn't back up your position. Your title says "men don't want to be loved", full stop. Men and women generally might want different things out of love (which I'm not convinced is the case) but to say that men don't want love at all is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 07:09 PM
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It's part of TRP so I dislike it. I do find it hilarious that feeeeemale opinions aren't welcome in TRP but guys can mansplain all they want in RPWomen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 07:05 PM
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you can give your opinion without attacking me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 09:01 PM
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TRP has one objective: get laid. Really? That's weird. Because I could swear that I constantly see posts on TRP talking about stuff other than getting laid. Like the top post on your sub right now. Or the top post of all time on your sub. If the only objective of TRP is to get laid, why do you guys constantly post shit that has nothing to do with sex? You guys have as big of an agenda as Dr Nerdlove does. You just don't notice it because you agree with TRP's political views.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 09:36 PM
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Confidence Working out Flirting Yeah, those are totally the reasons why people call TRP misogynistic. Definitely not the "we shouldn't have given women the right to vote" comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 04:48 AM
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I think saying "hey put your dick away" is a perfectly reasonable request. That's actually one of the most acceptable demands that someone could make. There's no good reason for your dick to be hanging out if someone is telling you to put it back in your pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 01:12 AM
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So putting your cock on whatever and whoever you want is your right as an American citizen. But someone saying "hey please don't put your cock on me" is lording over you and acting like your boss. Glad to see your priorities are in check.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 12:45 AM
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that's not what she said You know what else she didn't say? "I'm the boss of men".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 12:24 AM
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I really don't think that saying "hey maybe don't rape people" is the same as "I'm now the boss of all men! Muwahahaha"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 12:08 AM
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How the hell do you know what people did or didn't do? I don't, which is why people who brag about that stuff on the internet are ridiculous. Why should I believe anything you say? I have over 300 confirmed kills and am extensively trained in gorilla warfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 10:49 PM
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The people who say stuff like "men built civilization!" are the same kind of idiots who say stuff like "America built airplanes and the internet! You're welcome world". Like yeah.... I sorta get what you're saying... but no. Plus, you personally had nothing to do with any of that so shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 10:25 PM
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None of those things require a woman. But all those things are different when you're dating as opposed to when you're just hanging out with friends. When I go on a date I'm much more open minded about the kinds of activities I'll try. It's fun to have an excuse to do some touristy shit in a city you live in, or try a nice restaurant, or take a walk in a park on the other side of the city, or check out a subculture you've never experienced before. When you're with people you already know you tend…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 10:10 PM
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Watch what they do, not what they say!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 10:03 PM
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Right, you should only get sexual advice from online groups whose names reference action movies from the 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 10:02 PM
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The whole point of a sexual strategy is to minimize the cost (money, time, and general effort of dating) to benefit (sex) ratio. Getting more dates without those dates translating to more sex is like getting more work hours without it translating to more money on the paycheck. This is one of my big issues with TRP, you guys have to frame literally everything from an economic perspective. You're not interested in going on fun dates, having unique experiences, or meeting interesting people. You're…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 09:13 PM
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SRS hates everything. I don't see how they're relevant to what we're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 08:32 PM
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No. There's some bad advice along with plenty of good advice. Sorta like TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 08:24 PM
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Why would I give a shit what SRS hates?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 08:23 PM
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Is TBP fundamentally opposed to sexual strategy in general? Nah what are some alternatives to TRP? Dr Nerdlove, /r/seduction, Art of Manliness, Men's Fitness, etc. There's tons of dating advice out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 08:12 PM
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there is a huge increase in frustration on the internet during the recent years FTFY If fringe groups on the web could actually affect society then EA wouldn't exist and we'd have an atheist president. People care more about sex and relationships than they do about TRP and MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 08:14 PM
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We also don't train women like dogs. I mean, you might not. But plenty of TRPers claim they do so it's disingenuous to say "we don't do that".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 12:57 AM
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what if we did what my boys in the GOP advocate.... and lifted regulations on business. We'd all be swimming in mad cash right? I don't think anyone claims that "we'd all be swimming in mad cash/pussy". But it would make it easier to operate in those marketplaces, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 12:51 AM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 09:12 PM
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Thanks for proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 07:25 PM
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A common sales trick is to act like everyone you talk to is interested in buying your product. Now that's clearly not true but it works because of the mindset it puts you in. Just because a neat mental trick works doesn't mean it's correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 12:05 AM
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Well if "women are gold-digging sluts with the mentality of children" can be empirically verified I'm sure we'll see it in the next issue of Psychology Today.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 11:26 PM
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Really? Field Reports do more to explain human sexuality than legitimate research?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 11:13 PM
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I mean, just look at where their name comes from. In the Matrix Neo takes the Red Pill and discovers the "truth" about the world that "they don't want you to know about man". So they're fighting this big battle against feminists robots or something while most of the world is still "plugged in" and "buying the lies that the feminists robots are feeding them". So yeah, they think they figured out some grand conspiracy and now people are trying to suppress them. When in reality they're just acting …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 10:22 PM
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Do you treat Ronda Rousey as if she's weaker than Stephen Hawking because she's a woman? Or wouldn't it make more sense to judge each person on their individual merits?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 10:15 PM
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It's more like we are the only ones even trying to understand how relationships and women work. How can you possibly think that? Oh right, TRP ignores psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 10:14 PM
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Does it matter if the average partner count is lower when what TRP tells you helps you get laid? Considering that this post is about "absolute truth", yeah. We're not talking about effectiveness in this thread, we're talking about factual accuracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 10:13 PM
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I think most people would agree that rape is bad. But when most people think of "rape", they think of some greasy stranger in an alley forcing himself on a helpless woman. Most rape is committed by someone the victim already knows and a lot of these circumstances happen in grey areas (like the drunk scenarios which you excluded from this CMV). So while most guys will say "rape is wrong!", most guys will also say "I've never raped anyone, because I'm not hanging out in alleys waiting for a hot st…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 10:11 PM
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You consider my comments abuse? I'm sorry, I didn't realize your feelings were so delicate. I'll use a trigger warning next time for your sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 08:25 PM
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Not all red pillers God, "all TRPers are like that" is just a metaphor. Of course your emotional male brain would treat that like an insult, you just can't understand abstract thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 08:07 PM
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You do understand the difference between criticizing a gender and criticizing an online forum, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 07:59 PM
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Are you saying that straight people are better than "trannies" and "homos"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 07:48 PM
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a lot of TRPers don't know wtf they are talking about. That's the only thing I got out of your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 07:47 PM
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No one bp demonizes women as a group, or reacts to women having these things out in the open like they react to rp. Because RP isn't the opposite of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 07:47 PM
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It sounds like it's a huge issue for TRPers too, if they don't even discuss the fundamentals of what their sub is founded on. Anyways, you still haven't explained what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 06:54 PM
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I've been banned from there too lol Anyways, if you want to hold yourself to the same standards that you consider women at, go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 06:53 PM
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All of those "cherry picked comments" were made by your head mod, /u/redpillschool. If you disagree with them why don't you tell him directly? I'm sure he'd be happy to accommodate you with a ban.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 06:13 PM
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I searched "bestow duty" on TRP and got 0 results. So apparently /r/TheRedPill isn't based off of fundamental Red Pill beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 06:00 PM
2

Bestow duty? What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 05:44 PM
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The whole point of art is that it's up for interpretation and debate. I'm not the one claiming to "know the secrets of how women really think".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 05:38 PM
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There you proved to have a horrible understanding of hypothetical scenarios. Are you going to explain it then? Women are children From your head mod: "Women are emotionally and intellectually stunted people....To treat them as adults and have similar expectations of them would be a mismanagement and a failure on your part to properly lead." Seems pretty clear to me. women have no loyalty beyond their own narcissism Basically that women don't actually care about other people (especially men) but …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 05:36 PM
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And does this exam actually exist? Or are you guys just saying "well if we did have an objective way to determine how knowledgeable you are you would totally fail! And I would totally pass!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 05:30 PM
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there was context on the post, to illustrate the point he was getting at His post was saying "well I can't prove TRP's theories, but it's philosophical so I don't need to!". And I'm saying that you still need to prove things if you're talking about philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 05:27 PM
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I think TRP's view of sexual relations as a marketplace is a cool concept that could use discussion. But the problem is that they try to apply broader trends to individuals. Women tend to like richer guys, yeah. But then according to TRP, "if you're not making 6 figures a year women will look down on you with disdain. The second you lose your job women will lose all attraction to you and throw you out on the street. All women are like that". When you're talking about economics you're only talkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 05:25 PM
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If we're talking about it from a philosophical context, that's a very complicated question. Descartes came up with "I think therefore I am" and made the argument that we can only know for certain that we exist. But Ontology goes beyond that and asks questions like "Do physical objects exist?" and "what is truth?". I don't know a whole lot about philosophy but it doesn't seem like anyone else in this thread does either. In any case, I have no idea how it's relevant to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 05:14 PM
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Yeah, you still have to provide proofs in philosophy. It's not some subject that you can make shit up in and expect to be taken seriously because you're "philosophical and deep".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 05:04 PM
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most of the blue pillers on this sub would fail a red pill exam. What's a "red pill exam"? Anyways, I notice that you left out positions like "Women are children" and "women have no loyalty beyond their own narcissism" and "Tattooed women are broken" and "women are incapable of change". Those are the kinds of statements I have issues with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 05:02 PM
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People are being whiny and silly. It was an ad for a company in the fitness industry, of course they would have a fit person on their advertisement. I feel like the SJW crowd's energy could be better spent on real issues affecting women like young girls getting their clits hacked off in Africa. I hate the argument of "why are you caring about this trivial issue when people are dying/starving/castrated in Africa!!" (Example) These people are getting upset over a really insignificant issue, sure. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 04:53 PM
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I challenge you to find anyone on that sub who supports Hillary Clinton. That sub really dislikes women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 01:01 AM
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So do women, but I thought we just making inaccurate generalizations so I played along.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 11:59 PM
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And they only chance after the top men in society And men only chase after the hottest women in society. That's the way it's always been.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 11:55 PM
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Most of them seem to have completely disconnected women from sex. They think women are the problem but if they can get their dicks wet then they don't really care. It's relationships, families, and women that they're opposed to. Not sex. theres a large group of men out there who have completely given up on women and sex. Eh, maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 11:47 PM
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Look at /r/MGTOW's sidebar. It says "limited government" and "As close to zero tax as possible". Their first rule is "no feminists". Guys on that subreddit support Rand Paul. Guys on that subreddit still have sex. When I say "MGTOW is a group of libertarian men who dislike women" which part of that is inaccurate?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 11:41 PM
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Eh, if you say so. All I see from MGTOWs is "We live in a feminized society! We need to reclaim our masculinity and become alpha!". I guess that's not a traditional gender role since they don't want to provide for a family but they seem to act in very stereotypical masculine ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 11:29 PM
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Men who can't get laid =/= MGTOW. MGTOW refers specifically to the group of guys who don't want families and act in traditionally masculine ways. They're anti-feminist and libertarian. It's not just a group of incels, in fact MGTOW guys will even sometimes sleep with women or have gfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 11:23 PM
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But my point is that even the hardcore "We're men! Fuck women!" kind of guys don't even segregate themselves from women completely. And they're a fringe movement to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 11:03 PM
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MGTOW isn't even close to being mainstream. Plus, plenty of those guys actually have girlfriends, they just have a "MGTOW philosophy" or lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 11:01 PM
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There will be a lot of resentment (it looks like there already is) and hatred towards women, marriage and relationships Why do you think that? This gender war is mostly being fought on the internet, people in real life generally don't give a shit. The genders will mostly be segregated Lol what? If anything the opposite will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 10:40 PM
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I won't say "never" but generally speaking yes. Both my parents are obese and probably half of my friends have had drug addictions at some point. They're adults, they can figure it out. And if they want my help I'll give it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 12:00 AM
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Do you plan on settling down in a traditional and/or monogamous relationship when you're past thirty? Probably, not anytime soon though. do you have any expectations about your future partner's sexual history? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 11:57 PM
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Idk, maybe you do. I let other people live their lives how they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 11:55 PM
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Top fucking kek, Bruce Lee literally said "just b urself". I'm going to have to use that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 11:27 PM
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The TRPers on this sub are a lot more sane than the ones on /r/TheRedPill
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 06:55 PM
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Why should we encourage women to be proud of lack of self control? We don’t advocate being an alcoholic a or drug addict, so why should we celebrate unhealthy lifestyle choices? How do you go from "acceptance" to "encourage" and "advocate"? If fatties wanna fat, let them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 06:53 PM
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By definition, SJW only refers to people that you think are illogical.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 08:52 AM
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Kinda like how SJW is a valid concept that has been swamped by people using it to disparage all liberals.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 08:51 AM
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That's just people being entitled, which is not a gender exclusive thing. How does that have anything to do with SJWs?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 12:17 AM
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It's women being self serving, which feminists and SJWs strongly promote and enforce. Wait, so anyone who acts in their own self-interest is now a SJW?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 12:04 AM
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I can't begin to count how many times I got my ass reamed every time an ex cheated on me because it's wrong to ever slut shame or disapprove how a woman expresses her sexuality. Well I wasn't there but I'm willing to bet that you were (justifiably) pretty angry and used some charged language. Plus, if you were talking to one of her friends then of course they were going to back her up. That's just sticking up for people you know, not to do with anything political. Or all the female "friends" who…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 11:42 PM
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I don't know what you're talking about. Psychologists have been studying the relationship between triggers and trauma for decades. And "rape culture" is used to describe events like the Steubenville Case. I don't think that talking about either of those two subjects makes you a SJW.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 10:55 PM
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Those are valid concepts. Talking about them doesn't make you a SJW.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 10:50 PM
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There really isn't an issue in real life. I've never met a TRPer, MRA, TERF, or SJW in person, or if I have they kept quiet about it. There's always going to be upset people on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 08:43 PM
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Wise words from /u/max_peenor
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 05:43 PM
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When I was in high school I used to think about sex all the time too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 05:40 PM
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Or go on vacations, drive fast cars, eat nice food, go to the beach, host big parties, and all the other nice things in life that don't revolve around getting your dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 05:35 PM
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Idk, probably charity work or something. I'm not here to tell you how to live your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 05:13 PM
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Not everything revolves around sex. Men also achieve goals for personal gain like fame, money, social acceptance, power, luxuries, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 05:11 PM
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In the dating world women have an advantage. In everything else... eh. Men win in some aspects, women win in others. I've always hated the "no my gender have it harder in society!" debates. I really enjoy being a dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 05:09 PM
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a fourteen year old boy only getting their life lessons from women will end up being on /r/foreveralone and /r9k/ A fourteen year old boy on /r9k/ is getting advice from men. Just shitty advice, which men are perfectly capable of giving. Just like women are totally capable of giving excellent advice, so idk why the gender of the person giving the advice matters at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 12:52 AM
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Why would you only listen to one gender? That doesn't make any sense. It's not like either gender has all the answers, or even a consensus. If I were a 14 yo male, which genders advice would bring me the most overall happiness? I don't even know how to approach this question, this is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 12:51 AM
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Yeah fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:54 AM
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The slut shaming is always implied with posts like these. Anyways, I think getting tested is more important than discussing partner count.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:53 AM
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Totally. Some sjw's opinion is worth about as much as a trp field report.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:45 AM
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You explained literally nothing about your views, I'm done. You "already won" after all....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:32 AM
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it is 100% unethical to lie about your partner count? Sure. you should not shame people for asking about the partner count? Sure. Just like you shouldn't shame people for their partner count.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:23 AM
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Then let's talk about those instead. You know, the people whose opinions matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:16 AM
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Really, can you show us your syllabus where it says that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:15 AM
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I mean, that explains why so many TRPers are saying "women are all gold-digging bitches!". But it doesn't really justify it. That post also basically says that that kind of language is ok. That if you see a TRPer saying "women have the brains of animals/children! Fuck those cunts! Let's take away their right to vote!" then that's legitimate venting and you shouldn't "tone police" them. When a SJW says "kill all cis men!" are you understanding and just treat it like an anger phase?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 01:54 AM
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Some SJW will say that in order for sex to be fully consensual, it must be informed. So your entire argument is based off of what some SJWs on the internet have to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 01:51 AM
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Disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 01:50 AM
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I like drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 12:34 AM
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By abusing it, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 10:43 PM
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I think any online debate becomes moot when you Godwin it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 10:30 PM
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Yes, a website to support rape victims is comparable to Hitler.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 09:28 PM
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If that's your way of justifying false rape accusations, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 09:06 PM
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why is there no attempt at dialogue in your side There is, you just don't see the moderates because you're not into that. Would you join a feminist book club? Are you part of any progressive movements on a university campus? Have you listened to the recent town hall debates about the lack of female representation on city councils? No, because that shit is boring. Hell, even search "feminism" on Tumblr and see what you find. Most of the content there is just talking about female characters in fic…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 08:50 PM
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Can you post even one single example of a feminist being bullied this way (that is, in the real world and by multiple people)? Even just one? Well there was that time that /r/MensRights filed a bunch of false rape accusations for that one University.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 08:44 PM
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Oh, so problems just don't exist for TRP, and therefore you don't need a real answer to my question? That sounds nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 10:55 PM
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That's why I specifically said "sleeping at someone else's place is pretty shitty if you're in a relationship".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 10:54 PM
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By definition relationships are about more than one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 09:57 PM
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I have plenty of female friends, and I would never get into a relationship that required me to never hang out with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 09:35 PM
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I think sleeping at someone else's place is pretty shitty if you're in a relationship but I don't see any good reason why men can't just chill with women or vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 09:24 PM
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You're kinda missing the point. I'm saying that neither of these analogies are perfect, and you can't use either as "proof" of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 08:32 PM
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Kinda like OP's comparison. Which was the entire point of /u/Level100ProtWarrior's comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 08:18 PM
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Wow, instead of trying to learn from his analogy all you did was discredit it. That's not allowed!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 08:08 PM
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I guess I'm just happy I'm not marrying you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 08:06 PM
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You want to go to a bacherlorette party? That kinda defeats the whole purpose of the event. Would you be cool with your fiance going to your bachelor party?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 07:54 PM
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I don't think most BPers have a problem with the statement "men are attracted to young women". I've only seen two major objections. When men go after really young women. If you're a 30-40 year old dude and you're going after teenagers, that's pretty creepy. Like, what could you possibly have in common? (I think the same applies for any gender but I mostly see older guys going after younger women). Even if the chick is an adult there's some red flags if the guy is twice her age. When TRPers call …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 07:52 PM
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You're not allowed to criticize my analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 07:49 PM
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people like the idea of getting a puppy and being the only owner that it has ever known, they feel like that will make the bond stronger. They like that its mind is a blank slate. Why do you want a woman with a blank slate for a mind? Did you want a partner with their own views, experiences, and values? Or did you just want to mold a woman into what you want her to be like?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 07:48 PM
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Of course feminists will complain that view means you're trying to control women. Well I mean, what would TRP suggest in this scenario? That he shouldn't have let her gone?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 07:46 PM
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there's some kind of social stigma against a less naturally gifted man putting in the same kind of effort There's a stigma against working out, taking care of your skin, and dressing well? That's weird, but I hang out in a lot of gay places so I guess I wouldn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 11:25 PM
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No one is going to do research that paints women in a negative light. And what do you base that on?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 09:59 PM
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I've got no hard evidence of it seems to be more prevalent than single men sleeping with married women. Well I think that more men sleep with married women, because it seems to me that way and I make my conclusions on feelings rather than facts. QED
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 09:23 PM
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The benefits flowing from of a new idea must be carefully weighed against the risk that idea presents of offending certain protected groups. So now people think about what they say before they say it? Works for me. There's no shortage of people offering shitty opinions out there. Some quality control is nice. I have no idea what this has to do with men and women, there's plenty of people on both sides of the whole "PC Police!" movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 09:09 PM
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Yeah, I think even a lot of TRPers admit that it's just a useful collection of common sense knowledge. Overall, the only unique parts about it is the misogynistic stuff (which might not even be novel but I don't hang around a lot of misogynistic places so I wouldn't know).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 08:21 PM
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Well now you know that women are attracted to attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 07:59 PM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 06:59 PM
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Right... the interpretation of the laws by the judicial system. Which is a completely separate branch. If we're going to talk about this issue let's use the right terminology.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 06:56 PM
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Not a chick but most dudes (especially straight guys) are pretty gross. I'd mostly say that's because the appearance standards for men are way more lax than for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 06:38 PM
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Well it's a good thing that we're humans with greater meanings to our lives than just our primal instincts. We can prioritize things like "I'm going to be a good person" over trying to inseminate as many things as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 08:10 AM
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We know men have it in them to trade up, go for the bad girls, cheat on partners, manipulate, lie, use people for money, etcetera Why do women cheat? Why are the leather jacket wearing motorcycle riding bad boys succesful with women? So you claim to know exactly why men cheat and go after bad girls. But when you wonder why women cheat and go after bad boys, you're completely mystified and have to call them all gold-digging whores because they're such unique creatures. If we're talking about thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 07:34 AM
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level 70 goblin necromancer I'd be repulsed too if he called his warlock a necromancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 07:29 AM
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Why would you assume you know what other people want? I knew plenty of people (men and women) who were content playing wow and spending most of their free time raiding.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 07:27 AM
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I just looked it up and apparently there's been several impersonators trying to cash in on the boxxy thing haha. This other chick is hella cute though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 03:46 AM
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That stuff is fine if it's just "be a person who expresses interest in their own hobbies and don't bend over backwards to accommodate everyone you date". That stuff is not fine when it's "if your wife isn't blowing you enough, just act like you might cheat on her at any time!". I see a whole lot of the latter on TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 03:43 AM
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Or maybe romantic gestures work better once when you've already going out with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 03:41 AM
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omg boxxy is still around?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 03:40 AM
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I've got a casual boyfriend and a friend in another state who I occasionally sleep with. I'd like another casual FWB with someone who lives close-by but I'm too lazy to look for them right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 03:09 AM
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Then yeah, the problem's with the judicial system and not the laws. So there was no reason for OP to talk about "laws" in his title. Which was my point. Thanks for proving it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 02:36 AM
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See if society, judge, jury, media gives a fuck. That's all good but I was talking about laws, not society or the judicial system. I asked someone to actually show me a law that says that (since OP said that the laws were biased) but apparently you're not able to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 02:26 AM
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I've been wayy more confident around women and more sexually confident Holy shit, you're telling me that confidence is sexy? Well you just proved me wrong, because that's the objectionable thing about TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 01:41 AM
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Red Pill men treat women like children as a way of flirting/teasing? Here's some comments by your head mod: you are dealing with emotionally and intellectually stunted people. Failing to accept their own agency, women often resort to the phrase "I can't." It's an obvious sign that this person has not matured beyond the simplicity of a child When confronted with something difficult, overwhelming, or confusing, you notice she shuts down. She cannot process things, she is unable to react. You (or s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 01:34 AM
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Can you show me the law that says that drunk sex is rape only when it happens to the woman? As far as I know the legislation doesn't discriminate by gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 12:45 AM
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I think the vast majority of both groups look down on that behavior. On the sex-positive side of things, the issue is with the dishonesty and not the sleeping with multiple people thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 08:40 PM
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Right, so focus on the crime. But the majority of this post is focused on some anonymous Tumblr user.
/r/MensRights15/04/15 08:37 PM
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What do Tumblr users have to do with Men's Rights? Could Tumblr use posts from /r/TheRedPill to prove why we still need feminism?
/r/MensRights15/04/15 06:46 PM
8

I think Russell Brand was also entitled to money but he declined it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 06:24 PM
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Yeah, you can make a claim that the courts or judges are biased but I've never seen a law biased by gender in regard to this. Sec. A. III: In the event of a divorce rape, the feeemale is entitled to most of the man's shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 06:23 PM
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Well, if you're physically attractive then that will draw out the people who are only into you superficially. Especially if you're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:59 AM
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Anal's overrated. I mean, it gets the job done and it's kinky and different and everything. But vaginas were meant for dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:58 AM
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I'd probably sleep with more women. I like dudes and all but I'm like 70% into chicks. But I primarily fuck guys because it's just so easy. The guy I'm currently dating messaged me first. But when I talk to women online, I have to send out like 10 messages for one response. And maybe I'm just too prideful to work harder at dating than the other person. I like things to be on a level playing field which is harder to find in the hetero scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:56 AM
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I see you haven't answered any of my questions. Which means that you're not looking for a debate, you're looking to spout rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 02:00 AM
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Women take way better care of their appearance than straight guys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 01:22 AM
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it's way more easier for women to get sex from men than it is for men to get sex from women Duh Now do you mind answering my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 01:21 AM
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if it's supposedly just as hard for women to get sex as it is for men? Who's saying that again?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 01:04 AM
1

What you just described is toxic masculinity. People on the internet hate that term because they assume it's about feminists shaming men for liking sports or something, but it actually refers to the societal expectations placed on men. Most of these are positive stereotypes (men are strong, men can handle themselves in a fight, men can't be victims of abuse, real men don't show emotion, etc.) but they hold all guys up to a standard that's unrealistic and unhealthy. It's not just men who think th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 12:49 AM
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No one has facts That sounds like projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 11:55 PM
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>People with disagree with us even when we present our facts! >What facts? >See, people disagree with us!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 11:46 PM
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Red Pill has facts? All I see are assertions. Women have the mentality of children. Women will never truly be turned on by the beta they marry Men make decisions based on logic, women make decisions based on emotion Women have no loyalty beyond their own narcissism. I have yet to see "facts" supporting any of these claims. The best I've seen are correlations, which any scientifically-literate person would know is not proof of anything. Anyways, why am I here? Because I love pointless internet ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 11:37 PM
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Oh ok. Yeah, it's hard to tell how representative of TRP the posters on this sub are. And it's not fair to judge a group by its dumbasses.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 10:08 PM
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Benefit wasn't really the right word. The point I was trying to make is that not all relationships need to accomplish something concrete like a business partnership. Plenty of relationships are only valuable for how that person makes you feel, which includes being able to vent with them and receive sympathy from them. If you personally don't get anything out of that last kind of relationship that's fine, but I'd imagine you're in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 09:55 PM
1

Lol wait, are you saying that psychology isn't a real science while simultaneously calling yourself an INTJ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 09:53 PM
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I'm not close to my parents either so I understand that. we're social in order to accomplish things I wouldn't say that's necessarily true. Obviously, being social has given humans great advantages biologically speaking. And even today, being charismatic and well connected is a huge advantage. But just because we developed those traits because of the advantages it gives us, doesn't mean that that's the only reason for being social. I enjoy friendships, romances, and clubs that don't really benef…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 09:47 PM
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You're saying it's impossible to take a post and discuss the ideas in it? It seems impossible for RPers to do it, yeah. Whenever I bring up a post and ask them to explain what it's saying, TRPers on this sub run away from it screaming "That's just an individual, you'll have to ask him!". Reddit has a large percentage of INTJs, and I'm guessing TRP has even more. We thrive in analyzing things. Most TRPers on this sub say that psychology isn't a real science. They prefer to rely on personal anecdo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 09:23 PM
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It's not just about the venting though. It's about knowing that someone cares about your problems and sympathizes with you, even if it's not something you can change. It helps you feel like you're not alone in your struggles. Too many guys feel like they have to deal with all their issues by themselves and just bottle up how they feel. We're social creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 09:00 PM
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Try debating ideas instead of users and it'll work much better. So you're saying that I shouldn't provide analysis on posts, because those are examples of users and not representative of TRP itself. Thanks for proving my point for OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 08:58 PM
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Wait, I'm constantly told that TRP is just a theory and that members of /r/theredpill don't represent the overall Red Pill theories. But now it's just a group, and Red Pill isn't a concept? The definitions on every side of this debate are ridiculous and people just change them to better suit each particular argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 07:14 PM
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create a hostile environment for males from kindergarten to university What does "hostile" mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 07:10 PM
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You know, I sometimes link to TRP posts and point out its flaws or ask people to justify it. But I just get told "Individual users on TRP aren't representative of what TRP actually stands for". So you guys just no true scotsman your way out of any post that you disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 04:53 PM
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Sometimes you don't need someone to give you advice or fix your problems, it's also important to just have someone to vent with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 11:45 PM
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Yeah, anyone who unironically uses "SJWs" in their dissertation usually isn't worth listening to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 10:22 PM
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I'm still not saying it's right... Then we're in agreement, slut-shaming isn't right. I'm sure you can find reasons for why we do it but that doesn't mean we should, or that those reasons have any basis in reality. I understand why people are racist but I'll still call out that kind of behavior, because I'm an adult human who can ignore biological impulses in favor of fairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 10:18 PM
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my emotions are in tune with my rationality. Or could it be that you think your emotions are all logical? No one ever thinks that they're being irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 09:07 PM
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I never said it was right. That doesn't matter. If we're not debating about what's right then I'm not interested. what's so complicated about it? Relationships are all unique and you can't just apply your sweeping generalizations to every single case. Speaking in an economic context only works when you're talking about demographics and general trends, not individual circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 07:46 PM
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I generally agree with the logical approach rather than the emotional side of things. That said, I dislike how TRP completely dismisses anything emotional as immature or feminine. Men have emotions too, and it's groups like TRP that reinforce this "boys don't cry" narrative in society. Since men are shamed for expressing emotions (besides a couple acceptable ones like anger) they usually don't deal with it in a healthy way. Women have a higher EI than men and that provides a lot of advantages fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 07:34 PM
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Yeah, that would make sense. Like the article says, since women have 2 X chromosomes that would almost create an average of the intelligence of the two. But since men only have one, there will be more variation. So women are mostly grouped around the average while men have higher outliers on both ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 07:24 PM
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I'm only attracted to smart people so this doesn't really affect me. Pretty interesting though. I wish TRPers actually studied psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 07:02 PM
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If the best justification you can come up with is "well the feeeemales also do it" then I don't know how you can believe that what you're doing is right. A man threatening to take his time away from a woman is no different than a woman threatening to take her pussy away from a man. This is why I think it's so dumb to think about relationships in this economic context. Things are way more complicated than that and you can't explain relationship problems away with some formula of "Mans time * wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 06:54 PM
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It's not like RP advice is telling dudes to put a gun a bitch's head and force her to do anything. That's not manipulation. I agree with your overall point that "manipulating" someone is just subtly making them do what you want, which could also be called "charismatic" or "persuasive". But when TRPers start advocating stuff like "Let your wife know that you could leave her at any minute, then she'll start blowing you!" I would call that manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 06:31 PM
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Then he/she obviously wouldn't have been shot. Same with Eric Garner. Same with Walter Scott. Same with Tamir Rice. Seriously, when's the last time an unarmed white woman was killed by the police?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 07:25 AM
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Relevant Louis CK But really though, you're making it sound like you only have 2 options. How about both racism and sexism sucks?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 07:23 AM
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They're about equal last time I checked. Either way, it's irrelevant. XO Jane doesn't reflect my views and ROK doesn't reflect yours. How about you make your own arguments and discredit mine instead of bringing up the clickbait of the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 07:13 AM
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So your hypothetical scenario is valid but mine isn't. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 04:58 AM
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We do have a legitimate way to study the way people think, it's called psychology. Unfortunately, half the TRPers I've talked to in this sub deny that psychology is a real science.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 01:28 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 12:19 AM
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For me, I really require nothing but preference for my choice of actions, and nothing but suspicion to change them. I don't get how TRPers can say stuff like "men make decisions based on logic, women make decisions based on emotion" and then also make statements like this. Do you not see how the way you evaluate new information will feed into a confirmation bias? Are you trying to find the truth or are you trying to find what makes you feel good? the core of their argument comes down to, "If you…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 12:00 AM
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You're right, that is way overstating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 11:49 PM
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I mean.... sure. But you might as well argue against vaccines by saying "if you put poison in the syringes then it will actually be bad for your health!".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 11:48 PM
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I don't think "debate" works well to change people's minds That's all well and good but you're on a debate sub man. I found it more effective when cooperative folk search for studies and experiences themselves after having an interesting idea presented to them. Does it really though? I know for a fact that I don't look up most statements that I read online. Due to confirmation bias, we're just going to agree with statements we like and disagree with assertions we already think are false. Saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 11:07 PM
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Do you think your hypothetical scenario is any more valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 11:03 PM
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I mean, if you're in a debate sub shouldn't you be able to back up your claims? The other side should as well, I'm not denying that. But without proof of anything all debates just wind up as two people shouting rhetoric at each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 10:49 PM
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I have seen plenty of athletes or guys in the Jewish frat I go to treat girls poorly and still get lots of ass. So I wouldn't know what to say. So your life experience doesn't match up with my hypothetical scenario? Good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 09:40 PM
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Show me a girl who is turned on by a man who apologizes for everything and always asks permission. You do realize that there's some middle ground between "women are fundamentally submissive creatures" and "men should constantly apologize for everything", right? all romantic fiction aimed at women Do you read a lot of romantic fiction aimed at women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:56 PM
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he tries to be really kind and compassionate to the females in his dorm and in his classes, he offers to walk them back to home from parties at night to make sure no one attacks them, he brings them soup if they feel sick, he always lets them use his notes if they miss lecture or class, and buys them cards for their birthdays or valentines day. So in your hypothetical scenario being the Nice GuyTM isn't getting him anywhere. And I'd probably give him advice like "be more confident and straightfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:55 PM
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I think we need progress because people aren't left alone to do what they want. If people could get gay married, smoke weed, or walk down a city street in peace then I'd be fine with the status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:35 PM
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the BP premise that literally every single TRP theory is completely and utterly false. Wait, that's a BP premise now? Ok My claim is that calling TRP false is like claiming that the world doesn't exist. You're not even making an argument, you're just saying "this is true and if you don't believe it you're an idiot!". We already had one of these posts yesterday. You're not even offering proof that TRP betters the lives of its members. I could just as easily say "Everyone who subscribes to TBP see…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:21 PM
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Well as long as you're able to tell other people what their sexuality really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:06 PM
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I mean really... what were you expecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:16 AM
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No one. I'm just a guy offering his opinions on a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:05 AM
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You need to actually start a discussion if I'm going to join it. You've seen me respond to all kinds of arguments, but posts like op don't even merit discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 02:35 AM
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I'm perfectly willing to have a nice debate about a good premise. This was not a good premise. Your post was pretty fucking retarded. But if you're offended I'll be sure to use a trigger warning next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 01:53 AM
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whenever I hear someone talk shit about TRP it always seems to come with the stank of "crap they're on to us! DENY! DENY! DENY!" Are you sure it's a "drat, they found our secret conspiracy!"? And not a "wow, you sound retarded"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 01:38 AM
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So what about gay guys who were in denial about their sexuality and tried to sleep with women before coming out. Are they actually still straight since they've had straight sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 01:34 AM
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Any negative quality that you want to assign to them. And remember, it's not that all women actually act on those qualities but all women are capable of them. Of course, you could say that all men are also just as capable of acting on negative traits so there's no reason to specify either gend- shhhhh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 10:25 PM
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Men in prison sometimes snap and sodomize other men, then pretend they're still straight afterward You can totally be straight and have gay sex. Your actions don't dictate your sexual orientation. Sometimes guys just want a bj or fuck and don't really care where it comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 08:34 PM
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It definitely gives you an advantage. I think of it as a privilege; just because you have it doesn't necessarily mean that your life is great but you get certain benefits from it no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 08:33 PM
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Also, I have no vested interest in ROK and really don't care about anything they have to say. So wait, you're telling me that this random internet article that I linked has nothing to do with your beliefs or the conversation at hand? Huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 05:53 AM
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That has nothing to do with Dr Nerdlove. As long as we're attributing random internet articles to the entire other side, I'd like you to justify some ROK articles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 04:11 AM
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prevent you from stating in the future, that women were "not allowed" to fight. I said that because it's true. But in 2015, the military does a lot more than just lifting up heavy objects and swinging them at the enemy. Women can still play a valuable role in the military. The question you should be asking is, "What is it about women that makes them better at nursing?" Fine, what is it about women that makes you think they're better at nursing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 01:25 AM
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why women are more suited to child care We were talking about nursing, please don't sidetrack. I agree that men are stronger than women, that's an objective fact. And since physical strength is a major part of being a soldier, men are better suited for being soldiers. I don't think that applies to nursing though. What is it about nursing that makes you say that women are innately better at it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 12:47 AM
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I don't see any reason why a man can't be as good a nurse as a woman can. In regards to fighting, men obviously have a physical advantage. But that doesn't mean that women can't serve in the military and play a vital role. You're trying to apply evolutionary traits to 21st century professions. You might as well try to find a biological explanation for why people like Dubstep or Snapchat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 12:32 AM
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Oh, so if you support an ideology then you must also support every possible consequence when you carry it out to absurd extremes. So let me guess, you don't like feminism? In that case, why do you support ISIS? Defend yourself!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 12:28 AM
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So during the 1500's only men were into acting, biologically speaking. Yet only a couple milleniums later, both men and women evolved to like acting equally. That's fast. What's your explanation for why men are "biologically" better at driving trucks? What's your explanation for why women are "biologically" better at being secretaries?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 12:23 AM
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Does he also recommend donating over 30% of your income to feminist causes? Does he also tell you to only vote for liberal candidates regardless of their actual policies?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 11:46 PM
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Oh we're strawmanning in this thread? I'd say that he should follow MGTOW and cut contact with all women. He should refuse to even buy anything from a female store clerk. He should always be snide and talk down to females to show his dark triad traits. They'll be so attracted to him that they'll literally try to dry hump him on the streets. If he ever gets married he should then just have sex with her whenever he wants (even if she protests) because marital rape don't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 11:10 PM
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That's like saying "don't date a store clerk because they sell booze to alcoholics, so they profit off of people's addictions.". Someone's profession doesn't speak to their character. It might speak to their personality and that's fine if you're not compatible with them. But to say that strippers are manipulative just shows how little you understand them. And comparing a legitimate job to a thief is asinine. Why don't you go ahead and ask "would you hire a pedophile to babysit your kids?" while …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 10:58 PM
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Fine, my anecdotes don't count. Give me a single reason why it's a bad idea to date a stripper.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 10:38 PM
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I think most gendered traits are biological and not cultura Then we're in agreement. Gender is a complex mix of biological, cultural, and personal traits. Claiming that it's 100% based in society is ridiculous. Women like nursing and guys like engineering because we are biologically inclined I don't know about that, that also has a lot to do with gender roles. You might find some proof of men being more mathematically inclined but I think a big reason that women have traditionally been nurses is…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 10:12 PM
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But our anecdotes only include people that you know are strippers. If you saw my mom and dad having a happy marriage you wouldn't assume that she used to be a dancer. It's kinda like thinking that all toupees look bad because every time you notice one it looks fake. So to make this claim that "marrying a stripper is a mistake" you have to make several assumptions with nothing to back it up. You still haven't provided a single reason why dating a stripper is a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 10:09 PM
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My mom used to be a gogo dancer and my parents have been married for over 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 09:55 PM
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His father shouldn't have dated a stripper, so it goes. I don't get what being a stripper has to do with any of it. If you're not into strippers, fine, but it's not like they're all immoral people or "tainted goods".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 09:28 PM
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He's clearly emotional and upset. I don't know him personally so I can't say if it's justified or not. But posting it on TRP is just a flimsy excuse to say "look at this horrible woman! She's representative of all women! Meanwhile, my dad was virtually a saint and spent a lot of time volunteering, honor is a male attribute!". I really don't get why he needed to tell us how attractive he thinks his step-mom is. I don't think that being a stripper is a character quality but he called her "stripper…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 09:24 PM
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Aren't you part of those people? And weren't you trying to give me advice yesterday?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 06:00 PM
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it still does a better job delivering it than most other subs. Eh, /r/fitness is a bigger sub and has better advice regarding workouts and nutrition. I mean, you're technically right that TRP has better fitness advice than /r/gaming and /r/clopclop. But if you really needed an online forum to tell you that exercise is important then you needed a lot of help to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 05:39 PM
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if lifting and becoming confident isn't a good sexual strategy Oh, one of these "only TRP told me that working out makes you sexier!" posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 05:33 PM
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Where does reddit market itself as an open forum? All private groups should have the discretion to allow whichever ideas they want on their platform. Hell, TRP bans people that disagree with their ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 05:31 PM
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Claiming that "if this would a good idea then everyone would agree with it!" is idiotic. If everyone wanted what's best for society then there wouldn't be a debate about vaccines.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 08:52 AM
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Feminism seeks to make societal changes for the benefit of some and to the detriment of others. If it was truly seeking to change the lives of everyone for the better, no-one would oppose it. And again, you could say the exact same thing about the abolitionist movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 08:41 AM
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It's a respectable and reasonable method so it's not too much to ask. You're asking us to blindly accept that your ideology is objectively good. What kind of debate is that? How can you argue which ideology is more ethical when you start your argument by claiming that there's literally nothing wrong with one of them? You're literally comparing feminism to abolition? Jesus, what a lack of self awareness. ok The blood of half of the men who died in WWII, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War, as wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 01:42 AM
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This Basically, there was this post on /r/AdviceAnimals saying that most white people don't know how good they have it. There was some drama in the comments so SRD linked to it. Someone in SRD said that if it was the same post but talking about how good black people have it then it would get more upvotes. I decided to try it (and I actually did get more upvotes). Anyways, the mods of SRD and AA decided I was vote-rigging so now I'm banned from both subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 01:32 AM
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Studies can be doctored to promote any point you wish to promote I was literally quoting the study linked in the article that you posted. Which companies were these that got a ton of resumes full of people with the "exact" same qualifications (now if that doesn't scream BS I don't know what does) and are they still in business today? Are you even reading any of the studies we're talking about? "In response to help-wanted ads in Chicago and Boston newspapers, they sent resumes with either African…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 01:20 AM
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I've always been a sucker for internet arguments. Since I got banned from SRD I've drifted between here, /r/AgainstGamerGate, /r/changemyview, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 01:10 AM
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First, this post is only for those who agree that following red pill philosophy will lead most men to better lives.....This also implies that TRP works as advertised. Sure. If you don't mind OP, I'd like to host my own debate now. I believe that if more people sucked my dick then the world would be a better place. And in order to have this debate, you must accept that my jizz is the cure to cancer. CMV But seriously though: TRPers discuss only themselves while feminists discuss society. Wouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 01:00 AM
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It's a stupid debate, don't bother with it. That would be my advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 12:59 AM
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I know we 100% would not pick what we project to be an inferior worker because of race, gender or other superficial factors; if we did that we would go out of business. Well, at the very least all you can say is that you think you wouldn't treat people differently due to their race, gender, or other factors like that. But in this very thread you've admitted that you believe women are inferior negotiators than men. So what happens when you have multiple candidates to choose for a position that re…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 12:13 AM
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in a free market a valuable asset is a valuable asset because an entity recognizes it as such. Revenue and profit are king, not petty gender issues. Economic values don't dictate human behavior. You're assuming that we're all logical and rational creatures who always behave in a way that best serves us, and that we would never let our biases and subconscious prejudices affect the way we interact with new people. On a related note, most TRPers have told me that they think psychology is a bullshit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 10:55 PM
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I am more offended by the financial crisis of 2008 than I am about this UVA story. But they have nothing to do with each other. And for you to characterize this story as a "female wrong" and the financial problem as a "male wrong" is a transparent attempt to downplay the importance of this story.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 10:53 PM
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The results dictate the success/failure of negotiation, so if the company "penalizes" you it is because your poor skills/ability to market your skills led to your lower salary. Do you not see the circular logic in your argument? Successful negotiation requires two sides to cooperate. If one side refuses to compromise or acts illogically, that doesn't mean the other side has poor communication skills. And considering that there is proof that evaluators penalize women more than men in negotiations…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 10:36 PM
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Thanks, I'll definitely be taking career advice from you, /u/meehan666
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 10:25 PM
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Yeah, Jessica Valenti is doubling down on this. I almost want to respect her for sticking to her guns but all she's doing is further discrediting her side. She's literally saying that Rolling Stone is irresponsible for retracting their incorrect story. I just looked at some of her other pieces, she seems like clickbait. "Feminists don't hate men. But it wouldn't matter if we did"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 10:19 PM
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When this story broke advocates used it to roll back legal rights for college men. Source on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 10:16 PM
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anyone that was hurt could sue rolling stone for a lot of money You realize that in order to sue you have to prove you were hurt, right? Would you want to be part of a frat that got accused of gang-rape as an initiation pledge? what bothers / effects you more, this girl lieing or bankers packaging toxic debt and careening the economy without any punishment? Oh shut up. I hate this "well there's worse problems out there so there's no reason on focusing on the smaller stuff!".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 10:12 PM
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Sure, thanks. I usually like to masturbate after I win an internet argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 10:11 PM
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I tend to have an easier time talking about deeper emotional, personal stuff with women. Yeah, guys are really closed to sharing how they're really feeling. I can really open up to guys that I've known half my life. But women are a lot more comfortable talking about emotions, relationships, personal problems, etc. I'd say that's a bigger problem with society though. Men are supposed to be stoic and capable, so opening up is like admitting weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 09:31 PM
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It isn't really TRP ideology that women make bad friends. I mean, I get the whole "TRP is just a collection of random ideas and you can't judge it based on posts on /r/theredpill!". But seriously, search "female friends" on your sub and tell me what you see. Women make terrible friends Women make bad friends. And even women know it. Women can’t be friends with anybody. That last guy is an endorsed contributor. Are we only allowed to judge TRP based on its sidebar?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 09:29 PM
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Right, and the reason that there was no black presidents in the 19th century is because black people are terrible at campaigning.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 09:09 PM
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a woman CEO who says women suck at negotiating for themselves You're deliberately leaving out the important part of her quote, which is that women are penalized more for negotiating salaries than men are. If corporations penalize women more for the exact same thing men do, I don't know how you can conclude that this is women's fault. Isn't it great how feminism creates another avenue for wealthy CEO's to take money out of their employees hands? What were you saying about "not using a study to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 09:06 PM
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"In a victory for misogynists,rapists, shitlords, fratboys and basic journalistic ethics Rolling Stone magazine has officially decided to retract their UVA article which told the story of an alleged gang rape after certain "discrepancies" were found in her story." Where are you reading this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 07:52 PM
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First of all, you're assuming that each gender can do everything just as well as the other gender. That's clearly not true. I'd say each individual has the capability to do things just as well as the opposite side (ignoring physical things like strength or breastfeeding). But in general, men and women are sometimes better at specific things. But you also need to keep in mind that negotiation is a two way street. It's like asking "if black people really are good employees, then why do corporation…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 07:44 PM
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Why can't we just designate someone legally for these purposes with a form at the social security office or something? I mean, you can technically get married just by going to the court with two witnesses. And civil unions get most of the benefits of marriage. so many other things Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 04:18 AM
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Are you really complaining about getting downvoted? You know whenever I get downvoted I don't cry about it to some online "rights" movement.
/r/MensRights01/04/15 11:28 PM
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It's a reference to will.i.am, i'm not a big fan but I thought I was being clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 10:50 PM
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The info is there, your point is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 10:33 PM
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You get a lot of tax benefits. If you care about your spouse you get stuff like hospital/jail visitation rights. And you also get legal rights like being able to sue for wrongful death, and you can't be compelled to testify against each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 10:20 PM
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Since this post is so long, I'm doing it in parts. Wait, this is just a fraction of your post? If you want to discuss this stuff you need to shorten it up. Brevity is the soul of wit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 09:59 PM
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What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 09:01 PM
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Not really, I'm not a BPer. But I think you'd be hardpressed to find anyone on that sub saying "there's literally no difference between men and women".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 07:12 PM
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I'm not talking about the credibility of the video, I'm saying that it's a current topic. Feminists have not "recanted" their stance on cat calling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 07:08 PM
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Blue pillers, how do you deny this obvious sex difference? You seem to be implying that BPers deny any difference between genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 06:34 PM
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let's look at the most recanted feminist issues: cat calling, consent, slut shaming. I wouldn't say those issues have been recanted, they're still very much a current topic of discussion. That 10 hours in NYC video was just 6 months ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 06:33 PM
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There was about 3 women in my computer science course. There was 0 women in my electrical engineering course (of about 20 guys). I have no idea what's behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 10:53 PM
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it was used primarily to describe people who had unwarranted and unfair advantages that they shouldn't be getting - like this guy, but they turned it around as a slur against average people simply because they weren't obviously disadvantaged. I think it really depends on the context that you're using the word. Obviously you can use "privilege" in a negative way to describe someone like Mitt Romney. But you can also use the concept of "privilege" to explain how men will never really understand ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 11:44 PM
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Is it 'fair' for privileged bpers to criticize and ridicule those rpers for believing in / talking about the SMP and other concepts that affect them? Privilege doesn't have anything to do with belief. In your words, what does privilege mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 11:33 PM
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Do you have an actual point? I think privilege is an interesting concept that deserves conversation. In fact, it ties into TRP's theory on the sexual marketplace pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 11:07 PM
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Misogyny is ok if you only sometimes do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 11:05 PM
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The mod basically stated that using the word "misogyny" and its variants is a bannable offense. That's a very triggering word for that group, and we should be respectful of their fragile emotions. The mods should ban anybody that doesn't fit with SRS's narrative. Oh wait sorry, we were talking about TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 11:04 PM
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So Men's Rights supports false rape accusations, good to know. I'm done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 08:29 PM
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Why wouldn't mens rights be tearing down the group that for example, lies to the public about abuse, and derails reform of family law? Because it's a distraction from the real issues. Attacking feminism has nothing to do with men's rights. I mean hey, remember that one time /r/mensrights spammed hundreds of false rape reports?. Since your group/movement did something bad now I guess I can ignore all the real issues and instead attack your ideology based on your fringe members. And while we're de…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 08:17 PM
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Lol are you really afraid of what people will think of you when you start your social movement? Name one civil rights movement that didn't make people uncomfortable. Do you think black protesters in the 60s weren't held to ridiculous standards? Do you think gay rights activists 20-30 years ago had it easy? Yeah no shit people are going to call you out, you're trying to change something in society. I'm just telling you that I don't disagree with the supposed message of the MRM, I disagree with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 07:52 PM
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Whatever, you clearly know best.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 07:31 PM
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Yelling about "feminazis" in a youtube comments section is a pretty bad way to start a movement. MLK didn't progress the civil rights movement by saying "man fuck those racists amirite?" Gay people didn't get rights and acceptance by screaming about heteronormative society and shitlords. There's already hundreds of groups out there on the internet arguing about gender stuff. What makes the MRM any different? What legislation have they campaigned for? Which politicians support your movement? Have…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 07:12 PM
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If you want to make people aware that your movement is just antifeminist online bickering be my guest. Feminism is not a negative word to most of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 06:45 PM
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Yeah, but now instead of making any kind of progress all MRAs do is get into internet squabbles with feminists on the internet. They might as well just be TIA or GG
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 06:21 PM
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What use are anecdotes if you only pick the ones that line up with your worldview? You could use that to justify literally anything to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 01:50 AM
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Eh, yeah. It's a common online thing. If you don't like the way an internet conversation is going you can just go, "Well whatever losers, I have a real life to focus on". I once had a debate with this TRPer and he stopped responding (IMO because he was on the wrong side of the argument). Then the next day I saw he posted this thread to TRP, and was talking about how those internet losers don't matter because he's too busy driving his "expensive, luxury car" and getting his dick sucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 01:17 AM
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The MRM has always been understood by me to be the male focused version of the feminists, who aren't necessarily against feminist ideas of social change, they just want to be included as well. Have you ever been on /r/MensRights? That place might as well be called /r/FuckFeminists. Idk what the rest of the MRM is like but everything I've seen from them seems like they're more concerned with this internet gender war rather than any actual rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:31 PM
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These books are porn plain and simple. No one read that shit for the plot. Right, so I don't understand why you're trying to use porn as evidence of your claims. I might as well use a MILF video to prove how much your mom wants to suck my cock.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:28 PM
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If she can't even be better than the greatest composer of her era, then why should she have been allowed to even try?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:24 PM
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Yeah, I've "friendzoned" a couple chicks before. One of them was not attractive but always hit on me. She was in my circle of friends in high school so it was hard to avoid her. She also never made any blatant moves or statements so I couldn't reject her. So I just kept her at a distance and pretended to miss the fact that she was coming on to me. That was in high school and I handle those situations better now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 12:43 AM
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You just proved my point, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 10:39 PM
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If I make a claim, it’s either correct or incorrect Sure. And that claim can also be biased or unbiased. A logical fallacy or logically sound. Your argument can be emotional or unemotional. Your claim can be exaggerated or reasonable. You could be making a generalization or a blanket statement. There's more to debate than just a binary correct vs incorrect. For example, when I say "AWALT is factually untrue", TRPers are quick to point out that just because it's technically incorrect doesn't inva…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 07:48 PM
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Promiscuity is not immoral because slut shaming exists. That's like saying that homophobia is proof that homosexuality is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 05:55 AM
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in general we're going to have an innate, natural revulsion towards women who sleep around: our hindbrains think they are evolutionarily unsuitable, as they could be carrying around another man's child. We can try to shove this down and deny it as progressives do, but I don't like to hide from the truth. You're literally saying that if people don't agree with you then they're wrong and just denying themselves. This is the kind of reasoning which gives religion a bad rap on reddit. You're not eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 05:45 AM
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You're trying to do this thing where you're like "I wish I was above slut shaming! Alas, I'm bound to look at reality, therefore I must". Seriously, just admit it. You don't like chicks that sleep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 05:14 AM
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Is it right or wrong? I would say neither. It simply is. You said her behavior "isn't good for anyone". You said society should try to stop her actions because otherwise it would "fester and spread". Take responsibility for your own views man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 05:06 AM
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Yeah, totally. If someone doesn't want to date someone that used to have an addiction that 100% ok. As long as they're not shaming addicts in recovery there's no problem with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 04:41 AM
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Does anyone really expect the majority of men to stop caring about their LTR's sexual history due to "progress?" I do. And I've never had a sexual partner interrogate me about my past so I imagine others do as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 04:40 AM
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the fact remains that such actions are rooted in a fear that the woman is engaging in behaviors that indicate her unsuitability as a mate, and may indicate a propensity towards extramarital sex that jeopardizes the stability of the family and community. Then just don't marry her. I don't get why you feel the need to declare her a "persona non grata" (translated: "an unwelcome person") in society. This is just like people getting upset at gay marriage like it somehow affects them. How does someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 04:31 AM
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That's my point, he likely would have. So then they would have avoided years of wasted time and a divorce, and they both could have been looking for someone they're compatible with. Or maybe he would have disliked her past but appreciated that she was honest with him and they would have moved past it. In either case, it would have been better if she was honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 11:10 PM
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Well if you tell someone to their face that they're unworthy to date you then there's a pretty obvious reason why they'd get upset. I don't think that has anything to do with the outrage that you're talking about though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 11:04 PM
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I mean, you're literally asking for the source of outrage on the internet. In case you haven't noticed, the internet is really good at getting people riled up over inconsequential shit. Remember when SJWs got all outraged and started #CancelCobert? Remember a few months later when anti-SJWs were outraged that Colbert had Sarkessian on his show? The internet's a drama factory, it's best to not take it too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 10:45 PM
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I don't know, why does TRP shame sluts? Why does /r/fatpeoplehate shame overweight people? Why does the internet shame bronies? Why does /v/ shame people who play COD? Who gives a shit what the internet gets upset at.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 10:33 PM
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The problem isn't that they're breaking up, the problem is the lying and deceiving and divorce. If she had been honest then they would have avoided all of that. It's no different if she had used to be religious or a drinker and he wasn't ok with those things. Incompatible couples break up all the time and that's ok. What's not ok is lying to your partner to try to keep them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 10:19 PM
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What you said had literally nothing to do with his post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 10:15 PM
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All TRPers worship Hitler and rape women every week. Straight men wouldn't even be able to tie their shoes without a woman's help. If you lift weights then you're a meathead incapable of intellectual thought. Inb4 you disagree with me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 10:13 PM
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I think it's kinda ridiculous that you're comparing a threesome to child abuse and insurance fraud. And yes, I read your disclaimer. In any case, I think the real problem with the example you linked was the dishonesty. You're allowed to have preferences in who you date, so if you're getting serious with someone and they're misleading you about their past that's a big issue. Plus, add to the fact that the husband found out through a third party and not his wife makes her seem way less trustworthy…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 10:06 PM
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That's even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 06:31 PM
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Alright, fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 06:16 PM
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Being genderqueer doesn't automatically mean you're into dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 05:54 PM
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Really? "Make me a sammich" jokes in 2015?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 05:53 PM
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the people who say "mansplaining" is a thing allege that it's some kind of regular/systematic occurrence it's going on the false premise that it's being done strictly because "he thinks less of women" and that there couldn't be any other reason for it I see it as a stupid, hyperbolic term You're right. Making claims that this is commonplace is like saying that "shit tests" are a regular/systematic occurrence. And furthermore, you can't claim to know the motivations of the people doing it, by tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 05:50 PM
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Mansplaining specifically refers to men talking down to women. It usually involves subjects that people assume women wouldn't understand, like STEM fields, nerdy stuff, or sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 05:32 PM
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But that's exactly what "mansplaining" is: men who talk down to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 05:23 PM
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I mean, you do see it on the internet I'll admit that there are men who will talk "down" to women. So.... even you admit that it's a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 05:05 PM
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So do you actually have a "reasoned argument" for taking away the right to vote from half the population? Because I've never heard it. And no, being 14 is not an "immutable characteristic". Try looking up the definition of immutable sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 01:50 AM
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Did you even look at the study? I know it's a bit more dense than a field report but put some effort in. Women's wages remained stagnant for decades despite an increase in working hours, experience, and education. It wasn't until the 70s when things started to change (around the same time women could get a credit card without a man's approval). If women are receiving fair pay now, and their pay has risen over the last few decades, then they weren't receiving fair pay before. I really don't get h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 01:47 AM
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Why cant you imagine someone has a reasoned argument for ending women's suffrage Because denying someone the right to vote based on an immutable characteristic is disgusting. I can't believe that this is up for debate in 2015.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 01:29 AM
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It always was equal pay for equal work. There is no proof to the contrary. Then care to explain this? In spite of the dramatic transformation in numbers of women working, the data we presented in Sec. III indicated that the apparent "rewards" from work for the typical woman have scarcely changed. Throughout most of the post-World-War II period, and indeed as far back as 1920, wages of working women have remained a constant fraction of those of men. Many observers view that persistent wage differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 01:27 AM
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So you believe the pay gap myth? No, the 77% statistic is bullshit. But I believe in equal pay for equal work. Which women didn't always have. Like voting rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 01:13 AM
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If wanting democracy and "equal pay bullshit" makes me indoctrinated then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 01:06 AM
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If you're not even on board with concepts like women's suffrage then I'm going to put you in the "people entrenched in their ideology" camp.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 12:33 AM
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Most TRPers on this sub don't defend the "anger phase" and a lot of the posts and language that comes with it. And even some of the more accepted ideas in TRP like "women's suffrage was a mistake" don't really get defended here. TBP is a lot harder to define, and its definition changes based on who's using it. That said, I think most people will agree that /r/thebluepill is circlejerky and doesn't really provide any substance itself. That's by design (it's a satire subreddit) but most subs devot…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 12:12 AM
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Eh, there's going to be people in every group who are really entrenched in their ideology and won't budge. This sub is for the people who are willing to explain their ideas and listen to other points of view. I think most people here agree that both sides have some issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 11:23 PM
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Your definition of alpha is just "a man that women find attractive"? That would make Justin Bieber alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 07:21 PM
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there are pretty clear demarkation lines for what constitutes an Alpha. Eh, not really. There's certain traits that people would generally consider to be alpha but there's not a clear line anywhere. Looking tough is considered alpha but would you call Dennis an alpha? Alpha men lead groups of people but would you really call your congressman or mayor an alpha? Considering that the way we use alpha has nothing to do with biology there's no real definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 07:15 PM
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A 6'1 asian person? Don't you know that unicorn don't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 12:33 AM
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Nah, TBP is more like the Harlem Globetrotters. They try to be funny and parody the larger organization.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 12:33 AM
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Eh, I find debating over the definition of "alpha" to be pretty pointless. We all have our general idea of what an alpha dude is but when you start claiming "these guys who identify as alpha and try to act alpha aren't alpha" then it gets into some No True Scotsman territory. When I hear "alpha male" I still just think of Brucie from GTA4.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 12:00 AM
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Then you're just a unicorn so you don't matter at all. Since you're a small percentage of a the population, I get to act as if you were literally 0% of the population. Keep riding that sinister carousel.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 11:36 PM
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Person A: "all people are right handed". Person B: "well that's not true, I know some people who are southpaw". A: "well they're statistically insignificant so they might as well not count because I ignore things that don't fit my worldview. You're not supposed to take my statements literally." I love strawmen too!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 09:20 PM
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Men can feed children. Men can do housework. Men can make meals. Stop acting like women get some easy pass by being mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 05:41 PM
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Lol I love that even the mod of TRP is too ashamed to fully endorse his own views. G-guys! When I said "women are incapable of change" I didn't actually mean it. All of you are writing really triggering comments!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 05:36 PM
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A man is expected to sacrifice labour far more than a woman. Because a woman is expected to sacrifice her career altogether for the sake of the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 05:28 PM
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Do you believe all asians are short? Do you treat every asian you meet like they are short regardless of their height? Do you post on messageboards that "asians are incapable of playing in the NBA because of their height"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 05:23 PM
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If you literally believe what TRP says then yes, it's pretty stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 05:22 PM
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My bf has like 7 chickens but doesn't eat their eggs. His dad and I do though and he's cool with it. For me the biggest problem with going vegan is dairy. How can you possibly avoid all butter, cheese, milk, cream, and yogurt? Being a vegetarian is a piece of cake (especially in liberal cities) but being vegan seems way harder and more unpleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 09:38 PM
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always putting women on a pedestal, giving them lots of gifts/favors, and trying to win their hearts by being kind and treating them well? Kind of like TRP definition of a beta-nice guy. That's literally what "/r/niceguys crap" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 08:14 PM
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My boyfriend's vegan. I don't get it. I was vegetarian for 10 years because of my parents. We ate fish and eggs but overall it was very doable. Going vegan though? That's crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 06:56 PM
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I follow the Red Pill but I wouldn't intentionally dread game my partner. So you're just ignoring the aspects of TRP that you dislike? Then what's the purpose of this prompt? You're just comparing the best things about the stance you like and all the negative things about a group you don't like. You've literally said nothing bad about your hypothetical TRPer and nothing good about your hypothetical foreveralone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 03:24 AM
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I know how this sounds, but I'd rather date a female TRPer and a foreveralone dude. For the chick that's a pretty easy choice. If she supposedly follows TRP values then she keeps in shape, dresses smart, and submits to the guy. I personally prefer relationships on equal footing but hey, it's better than a foreveralone chick. But for dudes, I'm not into "alpha" guys. I don't want some big dude who's talking about the cock carousel for some reason while we're having gay sex. Or maybe he'd just cal…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 03:19 AM
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Makes sense. It sounds a whole lot like the reverse of toxic masculinity. Things that society thinks are positive attributes actually wind up hurting the group it supposedly helps. Men looking after women and treating them like royalty sounds like nice behavior but the implication is that women are fragile and can't look after themselves. Sorta like how men are always assumed to be competent and in control (positive) but then that places high expectations on all men and makes it harder for men t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 06:11 PM
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Oof, that hits hard for me. My parents are going to figure out that I'm into dudes eventually and I'm really not looking forward to that conversation. When I've previously told my parents stuff that I thought they'd be cool with they haven't always taken it well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 06:08 PM
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When I was a teenager my mom organized a big Japanese study abroad program thing. About 20ish Japanese girls came to America and my family was involved in helping with the whole two week trip. Anyways, it was the last day of the trip and they're all getting ready in a parking lot to go to the airport when these two Japanese girls drag me behind the bus. They were pretty clearly interested in me but their English was terrible so they couldn't express anything. I gave them each a hug and walked ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 06:05 PM
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I think the fact that so many "alpha males" adore him is proof of how effective his propaganda PR team is. The dude's a sociopathic, homophobic, warmongering dictator.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:09 PM
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Another one of these "if you change the words you change the meaning!" posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 07:54 PM
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I've definitely seen a lot of overlap between conservatives, religious fundamentalists, and TRPers. But conservatives and religion have a negative connotation in our generation so most people don't want to admit if they have those values.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 06:33 PM
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Damnit, when I read the title I had a response ready and everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 10:20 PM
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Need a Xanax? OP made a claim. I disproved the claim. Nobody said anything about straight people. Calm down that a subject doesn't involve you for once.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 04:10 AM
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Most women people are boring plain and simple, they have little to offer in the way of opinions/perspectives/whatever on anything FTFY. I almost never share any interests or hobbies with women like I do with men, it is so taboo for women to really indulge in a lot of the things that guys do. Not only nerdy things like video games, but even more traditional hobbies like rock climbing or watching sports. I can't talk to girls about that shit or participate in those activities with them. I know ple…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 04:08 AM
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"Why isn't what I say true? Except that it's not actually true, but don't bring that up." Nice thread. I've never really cared about whether TRP was right or wrong. I mostly just think that the community is filled with assholes and that you guys make sweeping, unsubstantiated generalizations and then apply them to every individual in that group.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 04:05 AM
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I feel like that's exactly what I said. Anyways, as long as you're in agreement than women have more to offer than a number than I'm cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 04:02 AM
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All men want all women. Except for... you know, the men who aren't into women. All women want only the best man. Except for... you know, the women who aren't into men. But even though you claim that TRP is a "biological truth" you're going to tell me that I can't literally read what you're writing. Can you think of any other "truth" that needs that qualifier?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 02:51 AM
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They really are though, for most men Yeah, looks are pretty much everything for young guys. Which is why I'm confused that OP's claiming he knows what women want in every stage of their life. What other value can women really bring men nowadays though? When both genders do the same thing (get educations, work, buy stuff) and have few gender based skills to offer each other, there is nothing left to assess for but attraction. Right, women can offer men sex in addition to everything else that men …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 02:49 AM
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I'm pretty sure that make up and low cut dresses were unrelated to the topic first.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 02:00 AM
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I don't know how the sex could be anything but infrequent and boring Right. You don't see how it could be like that. Because you only care about looks. And you don't understand how people could have different priorities. Not just in life, but in sex as well. I've fucked some hot chicks that just laid there like fuck dolls. I've also had a blast fucking some people that would never be in Maxim. If a woman isn't prioritizing sex and this settles for someone they are indifferent to physically or wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 01:58 AM
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Not only is she marrying a guy who doesn't sexually live up to her past, but she's just not very concerned with sex in general. But that's not even close to what you said. "Which means that her husband probably cares more about her than she does about him, the sex will be infrequent and boring, and overall, she will be unhappy and resentful on some level for the dregs she managed to lock down." since if you're marrying someone you'd "rather not" fuck, you will never get fulfilling sex without ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 01:43 AM
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How about each gender has unique problems that can't really be equated? I like that theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 01:15 AM
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So is your argument that women don't actually care if they sex they get locked into for the rest of their life (barring cheating or divorce) is inferior to the good times they had in their youth? I'm saying that women view sex differently than you do. I'm saying that sex becomes less of a priority when you get older. I'm saying that you look for different qualities in a LTR partner than a one night stand. I'm saying that being attractive doesn't automatically make you good in bed. I'm saying tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 01:12 AM
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Yeah, I'd agree that women have higher standards than men do. Women typically require that a guy has a shit together whereas men are just looking to fuck something that looks pretty. I mean, look at the language you use: when I fuck 5s and 6s out of necessity, it makes me kind of hate everyone and everything. Sure, it's better than no sex, but it's not like that's what anyone actually wants. It's frustrating and makes me resent myself as well as the girl. You're treating the chick you're fucking…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 12:53 AM
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Well, TRPers argue that all sex is transactional. So according to them, there's never "just sex" involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 11:43 PM
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Duh, of course. It's ludicrous to say that any woman can easily get laid, and TRPers sometimes exaggerate what men have to do to have sex. But I've never seen anyone deny that women in general have an easier time finding casual sex than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 11:40 PM
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I think saying "just chill out" is one of the most effective internet insults. You get to make the other person look irate and like they overreacted while you get to play the cool bystander trying to bring rationality to the situation. I've seen entire arguments consisting of two guys saying "Calm down man", "I am calm, you calm down", "Lol you're so frustrated. I don't even care", "If you don't care then why won't you chill out?", etc. Anyways, nice rhymes. You should put a beat behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 08:40 PM
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You know how feminists talk about "the patriarchy"? And how men have all the power, and people only respect men, and that society doesn't cater to women's needs? TRP's "feminized society" is the opposite of that. It gives them the pseudo-conspiracy backdrop so that they can take the pill and act like they see how hard men have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 11:34 PM
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I flirted with a guy in the McDonald's drive through. He wrote his number on the bag and gave me free fries. Those fries sucked, I never called him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 10:56 PM
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Eh, you could say that about so many things though. Being fat makes you unhealthier and cost the system more, but so does smoking, drinking, and riding a motorcycle. I don't see online movements getting upset at bikers because they live a risky lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 11:17 PM
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Both sides only like to look at one set of stats that prove that their gender has it the hardest. Women attempt suicide more often than men, while men successfully commit suicide more. Neither of these are good, why can't we look at both sets of problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 10:49 PM
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Yeah, and people give me shit on this sub for not identifying with either pill. I hate how everyone has to have some kind of identity or group on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 09:27 PM
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I think it's an interesting way of looking at things and worth considering. But as human beings we're able to go against a lot of things that nature initially intended. You might as well be saying we shouldn't build airplanes because "humans didn't evolve to fly". To me, it feels very similar to the "that's unnatural!" argument against supposedly immoral behavior. It's not like you guys are above denying science when it doesn't fit with your worldview though, I've debated multiple people in this…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 09:23 PM
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I really don't care. I'm sure there's a debate to be had but I just can't be arsed to get bothered about other people's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 09:08 PM
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Not sure why you feel that self-selection is a bad thing It's not a bad thing but it makes up for a biased group. A bunch of guys in the same community all saying the same thing isn't proof of any global trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 09:37 PM
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My point was that TRP isn't for me even though I like some of the ideas. I have no idea what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 09:29 PM
1

why do you think a community should tone it down in order to appeal to the masses? I didn't say they should. I just explained why I wasn't into TRP even though I like the basic concept of it. Have any more words you'd like to put in my mouth?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 08:24 PM
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I didn't say that. I came here from 4chan so I don't give a shit about how "politically incorrect" you want to be in your community. But by definition, being politically incorrect means that people are going to disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 08:03 PM
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it's more an issue with younger guys who haven't gotten good with picking up women Agreed 100%. I've never seen anyone encounter or bitch about the friend zone after high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 08:58 PM
1

I certainly prefer the shit flinging. But I come from 4chan so that might explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 07:29 AM
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If you ban anyone who disagrees with you then you wind up with a circlejerk of a sub. Bans should be handed out for trolling, harassment, rule breaking, and spam. Not debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 02:17 AM
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Yeah, I understand the aversion to heavily modded subs but those communities are generally much less toxic. TRP prevents this takeover by letting people say anything that is politically incorrect Unless you say anything which disagrees with TRP, in which case you get banned!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 01:07 AM
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Yeah, this is great. I'm sure you could add a couple topics and "be interesting" and "be fun" seem like they could be combined. Also each of these points needs fleshing out. But overall this is fantastic advice for someone looking to get laid and happen to improve themselves in the process. If there was a community based around these ideals I'd join it in a heartbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 11:49 PM
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I love the concept of TRP. It's an interesting take on gender dynamics. I like the concept of viewing the dating world as a marketplace, and using economic terms to explain why each gender behaves a certain way. I like the idea of a "safe space" for men to just shoot the shit and try to figure out how to improve themselves. In practice though it clearly doesn't behave like that. Idk why there isn't a less misogynistic alternative but I'm sad that there isn't one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 07:38 PM
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Men are way more likely to approach you than women are. Dudes are hornier than chicks. The gay dating market is on a much more even playing field than the straight one. Overall though there's not that much of a difference. I can't think of too many activities I'd only do with specifically one gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 10:11 AM
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Yeah, I probably treat chicks differently than straight guys do. I have 3 sisters and have always had female friends so I don't really see them any differently than my guy friends. I guess it helps that I don't see them as sex objects any more than dudes. In regards to relationships, I (briefly) dated a couple of clingy guys. I've also had a LTR with a chick in high school who was way more into me than the other way around. So I think it goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 10:03 AM
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I feel like that proves my point. That being an asshole has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 10:58 PM
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I mean, some assholes are fun, interesting, and have strong social standings. But a lot aren't. Same with nice guys. You might as well be saying that those are traits of Republicans or vegans. I really don't see what being a dick has anything to do with being able to have a fun time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 12:29 PM
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"asshole Aly so carry these attractive traits " what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:59 AM
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You need to walk before you can run. He needs to get the basics of being an adult down first, like showering, dressing yourself well, eating better, grooming yourself, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 07:29 PM
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I mean, I'm sure there's some studies out there that conflict with each other. But that's why they're peer reviewed and repeatable, so you can take the consensus of the experiments. I'd take 10 studies with 2 outliers over 0 studies from an online forum any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 06:15 PM
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There are traits of an “asshole” that women do respond to like confidence, bravery, being fun, interesting, not boring, having social proof around them, and counter-signaling. These are considered "asshole" traits now? There are a lot of women who have emotional problems. The reality is that if you treat all women like shit, very few women will respond to that. But there are a small subset of women, depending on your mating market 5-20% of women, who are going to respond because they think reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 06:03 PM
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I have no faith at all in the social sciences You realize that social sciences aren't just some Women's studies SJW holistic bullshit, right? They actually run peer-reviewed experiments... unlike TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 05:59 PM
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He's cute and dorky. Definitely not traditionally hot but I get his appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 05:56 PM
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My husband is FAR more likely to take out the trash or pick up x y Z at the store or what have you (these also qualify as "acts of service" for me and earn love points) when he's satisfied sexually. She's saying that he's more likely to do chores when he is getting a lot of sex already, not that he's doing chores so he can get a lot of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 09:34 AM
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And no one's claiming that "be as desirable as possible" is the end all be all to dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 10:30 PM
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There's 'bluepill' as in the general ignorant population and 'bluepill' as in the people who participate in /r/TBP (actively/passionately ignorant) Well as long as your opponents are ignorant by definition, there's no way you can lose! There is a much higher percentage of people in TBP that identify as feminists compared to the overall population. There's a much higher percentage of misogynists in TRP compared to the overall population but that doesn't seem to bother you much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 10:30 PM
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BPers say incredibly stupid shit when it comes to attracting the opposite sex. "Be an ally/Be a feminist to get laid" is something Dr Nerdlove, a dipshit huckster that BPers love Wait, this guy was defining BP as mainstream advice, but now you're defining BP's as "dipshit huckster feminists". This is too confusing, I'm just going to define BP as jews during the holocaust so that this way you're not allowed to criticize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 10:08 PM
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You really tore down that strawman, good job!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 10:04 PM
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Since BP does not have an over-arching idea structure to compete with TRP's, it is just a rejection of TRP, it's fair to assume that the "BP answer" to something is the same as the mainstream answer. Is this how we're defining BP today? Ok. I don't get why you care so much about the mainstream answer. If I constantly worried about upsetting what the majority of Americans think then I wouldn't be able to do anything. Yeah, there's a lot of dumbasses out there, so why would you listen to them? And…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 10:01 PM
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There's a HEAVY emphasis that looks aren't THAT important. Do you like attractive women more than unattractive women? Then why would you think that the same wouldn't apply to you? Seriously, in what universe are you living in where you never realized on your own that people find attractive people attractive? to exercise/groom/dress well makes it a LOT of work No... those are all pretty basic shit. Well ok, most people choose to not exercise but I don't think doing basic hygiene and dressing your…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 09:53 PM
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your personal bias (or at least how I interpreted) isn't the most generous in framing the RP perspective Wait, so you're saying that my strawman of the other group isn't accurate and doesn't accurately reflect their opinions? Try telling OP that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 09:51 PM
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They generally don't include it because it's common knowledge. To we really need to explain that healthy people are more attractive? How about that hygienic people smell better? Or that wearing clothes that fit makes you look nicer?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 09:44 PM
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That's my point, there's a ton of advice out there and TRP doesn't have a monopoly on anything but the misogynistic parts. it's easier to convince a rational male than an irrational female Well, it's easier to convince rational people than irrational people so I don't see what the genders have anything to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 08:13 PM
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generic, mainstream relationship advice. You've never heard "work out and you'll be sexier" in the mainstream? You've never heard "women like confidence" before outside of TRP? the advice is frequently to focus on the relationship/go to couples counseling. Again, for the overwhelming majority of people, this advice is awful. Yeah, instead of going to a trained professional, couples should just go to an anonymous online forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 07:52 PM
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Kinda like TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 07:07 PM
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I think "the blue pill" is such a nebulous and poorly-defined concept that I don't have any idea what it really means. I think TRP has plenty of good advice but I've never seen anything useful on that sub that you couldn't find elsewhere. FFS, they claim that working out is TRP advice which by definition makes it not TBP advice. So now if I like to work out I automatically support TBP. So I don't really label myself as either. Plenty of people on this sub do that for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 06:35 PM
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That's weird, because most of the bitching about feminism I've seen on TRP just links to jezebel, buzzfeed, and tumblr.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 06:33 PM
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TRP basically introduced the opposite voice to the PC narrative on the gender debate on reddit. Lol don't flatter yourself. Reddit has been racist/sexist for years now. even punchingmorpheus guy proved that its not the ideas that are seen as stupid, but their percieved evilness. TRP is wrapped in a shit coating but the core values aren't much better. This perception of evilness will take time to die down. But it probably will. Eventually. When people see past "women are children". As long as "wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 06:31 PM
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Oh my god you have such a victim complex. Modern day men have issues but you're sounding super paranoid. No, you're not going to get arrested for your political views. It seems we've reverted to tribalism Yeah, it was much better in the good old days when blacks couldn't vote, women couldn't get credit independently, and faggots weren't accepted in society. But at least straight white guys like you were doing ok!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 06:27 PM
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I'd say that's a really shitty defense. Obviously you have the right to believe whatever you want but your position doesn't have any virtue just because you happen to believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 06:04 PM
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I really dislike how you guys pretend that TRP has a monopoly on the "workout and you'll be sexier" advice. Anyways, as long as we're strawmanning each side: BP: Use logic and emotion to find out what the other person is feeling. Discuss your sex life with your partner like adults. Discover what's going on and find out the best way to move forward RP: Never be honest with your partner regarding your desires or motivations. Admitting that you love your partner is beta, don't do it. Prioritize loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 06:01 PM
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When has anyone said that women are turned off because you didn't do enough chores?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 05:56 PM
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Right, but you didn't say "all asians are short" because you knew that would sound ridiculous. You said "asians are short" which is just a basic generalization. I'll never understand TRP's insistence on using deliberately inaccurate language.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 05:54 PM
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One great example is the way that women ignore the problems of men, and even hate men for their problems. Women do ignore male problems, sure. Hate men though? You're stretching. I know as a man I ideally should be stoic about these matters Why? If you want to fight for men's rights, go ahead. Your whole point seems to be "b-but the other side won't like me for it!". Welcome to every civil rights movement in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 05:50 PM
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it's absolutely acceptable to be angry about things. Do you think it's acceptable for feminists to get angry at the patriarchy and claim that all men rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 05:47 PM
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It is important to note that gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder. The critical element of gender dysphoria is the presence of clinically significant distress associated with the condition. Cool, so transgender people aren't mentally ill according to your source. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 05:46 PM
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Lol altTRP is ridiculous. They claim that gay men are women. TRP will always be about traditional hetero relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 05:43 PM
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If you said "All asians are short" then yes, you would have not acknowledged Yao Ming.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 05:42 PM
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Men are less likely to express that they're hurt or offended but I wouldn't say that they get less offended overall. If you said something that offended a male friend of yours and they didn't say anything how would you possibly know if they're offended or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 05:39 PM
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I don't get why you think saying "well some people like it" is a good defense of any belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 05:38 PM
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How is that any more vague than "Alpha fucks, beta bucks" or "hold frame"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 05:36 PM
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Some people even become angry and defensive about it, and accuse us of backtracking(like this guy about AWALT). Well I mean yeah. If you say one statement and then later clarify and say that you meant a less extreme statement, that's the definition of backtracking. Basically, anyone without critical thinking skills would take "Women are children" at face-value literally and leave Lol what? Anyone with critical thinking skills would look at that and say "that's clearly ridiculous" and leave. Sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 05:33 PM
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I'd say that being bisexual is the most neutral sexuality in these debates because you can play both sides of the field. But yeah, this sub could use some more diverse opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 05:25 PM
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Yeah, PPD is 100% based around straight relationships. So is TRP to be fair though, so that explains why the debate around their ideology would only look at it this way. Feel free to comment but just know that TRPers will ignore everything you say unless it fits with in with their narrative (Like claiming that gay men are women).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 05:23 PM
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Of course TRP isn't for me. That doesn't mean it's immune from criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 05:17 PM
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are you saying that these women can't help but have these children Yes, when women have no access to contraceptives, sexual education, and abortion then they literally can't help but have these children. isn't the implication that all populations would shrink if women had a choice in the matter? Probably, I don't see how that's a problem though. And we're definitely nowhere close to that actually happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 05:17 PM
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I thought that TRP was all about self improvement and sexual strategy, and had nothing to do with blaming women. I guess I was misinformed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 06:28 AM
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Sure, and new converts use /r/atheism to vent at "fundies" and complain about how they've been lied to their whole life in such a religious society. Sound familiar? But just because that's understandable it doesn't make me like /r/atheism any more. Where else can we express our frustrations in a raw and honest way without having to be pc? You can say whatever you want. But then you can't act surprised when people call you out for saying non-pc things. That's literally what being politically inco…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 06:25 AM
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I never ask. I never care.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 06:23 AM
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Yeah, absolutely. When you're talking about "sluts riding the cock carousel" and "women have the maturity level of teenagers" then of course people are going to have negative reactions to that. People would still object to some of TRP's ideologies no matter what but the main reason it's so vilified is because of the crass language and sweeping generalizations on the sub. And that's just the stuff that's officially endorsed by TRP and doesn't include the sizable population of guys in the "anger p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 06:17 AM
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Well, by TRP's definition women like "alphas" and aren't sexually attracted to "betas". So in your no-fail hypothetical then yes, women are more attracted to alphas than betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 11:49 PM
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Why would you drive around? That's the easy way out and has negative consequences for others. Are you afraid of hard work like walking everywhere? Slut
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 07:15 AM
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TRPers don't want to marry sluts. That's not shaming, but people accuse it of being shaming. Can you read m8? The OP comment was talking about slut shaming. Jim Jefferies was talking about slut shaming. My comment was talking about slut shaming. Literally all my replies were talking about slut shaming. You're the only one not talking about it, get on topic. The word "slut" itself is shaming. If I had a choice to make, and I took the easy path out (which in my view also had poorer consequences) I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 06:10 AM
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Instead of explaining my position I'll just call you dumb for not getting it! gr8 deb8 m8
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 05:58 AM
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Basketball players have to put in an incredible amount of effort to make it into the NBA Who's talking about the NBA? I'm just saying that tall guys have an advantage when it comes to basketball. I'm uncoordinated as shit but I still used to be good at basketball because i had 6 inches on half the guys I was facing off against. Should I be "shamed" because I was born with an advantage and took advantage of it? The whole point of the video is that sluts don't have to put in effort, relatively spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 05:55 AM
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It's just as good an argument as the point OP's making. Which means it's a pretty shitty argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 05:53 AM
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Women are sooo easy to fall for the ATM reciept test So then by your own admission you literally need one of the things you listed to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 05:51 AM
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Then whatever, fat people get healthcare. I don't get why you're so outraged that unhealthy people are going to get healthier. I can almost not afford health insurance anymore Yeah, wouldn't that be tragic if you weren't covered by health insurance? I wouldn't wish that on anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 05:51 AM
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Well, depending on the context it kinda is. If you go up to a fat person in the middle of a meal and start talking about heart disease that's definitely fat shaming. Either way it's their body, doesn't affect you, and a dick move to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 05:19 AM
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That video explains why its impressive for studs to get laid, not why we should shame women for sleeping around. The whole premise is "it's easy!". So? It's easy for tall guys to play basketball, should we shame tall guys who make the effort to get good at it? I also don't buy the whole "slut isn't a bad word" argument. It's inherently an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 05:12 AM
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Exactly, like nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 02:51 AM
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At its heart it's simply advocating that you can put and take care of yourself first At its heart feminism wants equal rights for women and men so you must love that too, right?
/r/MensRights25/02/15 12:23 AM
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If we construe "blueness" to be gender progressive, non-patriarchal, highly feminist, etc. That's how we're defining blue pill today? Alright. below-replacement fertility rates of the "bluer", progressive nations of Europe and North America? You know which country has an even lower fertility rate? Japan, with one of the highest gender gaps in all developed nations. And comparing birth rates in the US to birth rates in Africa is ridiculous. There's a number of reasons why they have a lot of kids …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:45 PM
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Attractive people have an easier time getting sexual partners? HOLY SHIT STOP THE PRESSES
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:43 PM
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So you had sex with a girl who was saying "Oh my god, no, stop" and you got accused of rape? Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:50 PM
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The "nice guy" equivalent is the "She's got a great personality" woman. And your article completely disagrees with what you're saying. We all know what that means; its a euphemism for saying that a Woman is…homely, but her supposed “nice” qualities somehow are to makeup or otherwise compensate for that. In many ways, it’s the analogue to the Nice Guy(TM) phenomenon that’s got the ire of so many ladies in our time these days. And we all know how and when such a phrase is used, too
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:33 PM
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I live in America, where the hell do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 06:31 AM
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that sounds like a piece of advice which requires further explanation than just the phrase itself. And if it's interpreted incorrectly it will be completely ineffective. Which happens to be TRP's criticism of advice like "just be yourself". And what the hell do you think emo means haha
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 05:50 AM
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Why mock and ridicule something you haven't experienced? That's exactly the mentality I have. That's actually why I first started experimenting with dudes. you're claiming that TRPers have huge egos? According to you, BPers make fun of TRPers because TRPers are trying to improve themselves. I'm saying that the "self improvement" aspect of TRP is the least controversial thing about that sub. I constantly see TRPers saying "what's so bad about a forum of guys giving workout tips?" as if that's the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 11:21 PM
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Do BPers only trust things that are 'official'? Idk, you'd have to ask them. How is that even remotely the same? It's part of this mentality of "the only reason people dislike me is because I'm too good". It's ridiculous. Do you really not see any reason why people would dislike TRP other than jealousy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:58 PM
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Haven't you ever sat in a room and watched strangers mingle? The men and women always gender huddle, and don't usually speak to each other unless they're made too. Same deal with white and black people, we naturally segregate ourselves in social situations. But it would be ridiculous to say "whites and blacks can't be friends". if you're asking "why can't men be friends with women they don't want to fuck?", they can Then why did you say "I don't believe men and women can be just friends."? Is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:36 PM
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It's the difference between a lazy person browsing the internet for 'teh lulz' and a motivated person learning to improve their selves, no matter the method of improvement. I don't see any kind of internet blogging as "improving myself". It's entertainment first and I admit that. If you want to read to yourself there's already something for that, it's called self-help books. these 'lazy' people have the audacity to make fun of someone trying to be better. Oh shut up. TRPers who say "they hate us…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:32 PM
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I've never met a man of any age that didn't value ONS's at least as much as LTR's who weren't hot athletes getting regular ONS's or the like. I'm not talking about relationships, I'm talking about all kinds of companionship. Including friends and family. Which women can be part of.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:30 PM
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You missed my question. Why do men hang out with men if they're not trying to fuck them? And why can't that also apply to women they don't want to fuck as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:02 PM
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I've only seen the OKC data that asian men (including indians) are near the bottom of the desirability chart. My point was just that every group has its members that like feeling oppressed, no matter how legitimate their gripes are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:01 PM
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I said nothing about maturity. It's just a fact that you're at your horniest when you're a teenager. I've never met an adult in his mid 20s or older who valued sex more than any companionship. I agree with you about your perspective on sex changing after you have it though. When you're not having any sex it seems like the most important thing in the world. When you're getting plenty of it then you start to care more about other things. I'm not even a player or anything but once when I realized t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:38 PM
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Reading and writing shit on the internet is not nearly the same as reading and writing literature. Do you think Tumblr is productive? How about 4chan? How about chatting with guildmembers in Wow?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:27 PM
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Not if you're a heterosexual male teenager FTFY. You'll grow out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:25 PM
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Men gravitate to the women they want to fuck. Women who they have no sexual interest aren't really worth their time Then why are men (who they have no sexual interest in) worth their time? Because of companionship, same hobbies/interests, mutual friends, long history together, etc. So why can't that apply to ugly women as well? you're a bisexual female. Lol since when did "M" stand for "female"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:24 PM
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The whole premise of the study is looking at cross-sex friendships in the first place. In approximately 12% of the friendships that they surveyed they found at least one person who was attracted to the other.. The summary that you only presumably read pointed out that men were 3 times as likely to think that the romance was mutual. But in the vast majority of cases, women and men can be platonic friends. Thanks for proving his point! Bummer that you didn't actually read the study before trying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:19 PM
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Do you have a counter-argument for me? If so, then please provide some evidence to back up that view. Yes, my argument is that men and women can be friends. In order to prove my point, I'll speak in a language you can understand: letting a Youtube speak for me. In case that doesn't work let me try another method that you might understand, a field report. Field Report, 2/20/2015 I currently have a couple female friends. Sex has never been an issue. I also have several male friends that I've never…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:11 PM
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Ah, the classic TRP "you can't take our statements literally!" fallback. He said that women will only hang out with a man if they're attracted to him, or if the guy is doing something like giving them drugs or homework. Both of you are completely missing the possibility that maybe a guy and a chick hang out because, you know, they get along well. They have similar interests. They have a long history together. Or they share some unique characteristic. Sex is such a small part of my life and I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:04 PM
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>TRP actually considers this productive
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 08:55 PM
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I backed up my assertion with a video. You backed up your assertion with an edited Youtube video. If that's valid proof, then here's irrefutable evidence that women have it harder than men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 08:54 PM
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Every group out there likes to believe they're at the bottom of the totem pole. I've seen guys on this very sub that say white men in america are the most discriminated against. I'm not saying that to discredit anything you've been through but the perception certainly isn't unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 08:45 PM
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There are infinitely more people that only hang out with only guys compared to people that only hang out with only girls. No. You have experienced more people that only hang out with guys than people that only hang out with girls. Because you're a guy and presumably hang out in "male spaces". I have 3 sisters and a lot of LGBT friends. It's more common than you think. How would you even be aware of female only spaces? By definition, it would only be filled with people outside of your demographic…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 08:43 PM
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I mean, in a sense we all only hang out with people if we get something out of it. Companionship, humor, sympathy, to share experiences with, to vent, to trade favors, to meet their friends, etc. If you're talking about material possessions though, I'm not sure how to counter that. He's basically asserting "All women are whores, you can either pay in attractiveness or by giving me stuff". It's just a blanket statement about a whole gender which even TRP admits is not always the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 08:19 PM
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Then yes, by that definition you are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 08:13 PM
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Hm, I don't have that problem at all. Maybe you're doing something to give off that impression, especially if you treat women differently than you treat your guy friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 08:06 PM
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An exception. People who say "I only hang out with guys" are also an exception. why these views are so prevalent People are dumb. why is there a big disconnect between men and women's opinions on the issue. I don't think there is. In my larger social group there's a relatively equal mixture of men and women. Some people are dating but for the most part everyone is just friends. This whole "gender war" thing is mostly fought on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:56 PM
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If it works for you I guess. I haven't involved my parents with anything in my dating life since high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:48 PM
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But it seems so much more rigid than dating. With dating, I can figure out someone's core values, hobbies, and attractiveness over a couple hours. And if it doesn't work out then I can cut it off, and overall only 2 people wasted an afternoon. I could have a dozen dates in a week if I wanted to. With arranged marriages doesn't that process take weeks if not months? How many suitors could you possibly meet in a year?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:40 PM
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Why do you keep assuming that every woman you meet is trying to fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:37 PM
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I told them that I plan to get an arranged marriage. They asked why. I responded that "it's my best chance of finding a woman who's into me, shares my values, and attractive." I'm not very familiar with arranged marriages but how would it make it more likely that you find someone who meets those criteria? It seems kinda arbitrary who you end up with, based on the whims of both party's parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:36 PM
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I serve my female acquaintances friendship, does that count?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:32 PM
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By who's definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:31 PM
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Females don't interact with men unless they are attracted to them or unless they are serving them in some other way lolwut. It's funny how TRP will simultaneously claim that women aren't really into sex and that women will only interact with people they want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:28 PM
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A friend who is a girl will never be a friend who is a guy, because a girl will never be a guy. I mean, you're technically right but what's the point in making this distinction? My short friends will never be tall friends, my mexican friends will never be white friends, and my gay friends will never be straight friends. It doesn't mean that they're less valid or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:26 PM
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I've never heard any person - man or woman - say, "I don't really hang out with guys. I just get along better with women." I have. Mostly women and people in the LGBT crowd. If you spend most your time in the "manosphere" you wouldn't see those people much. why are these views so prevalent? Is there some truth to them? 80% of Americans believe in angels and only 61% believe in global warming. Do angels have more validity than climate change? I think women are fully aware that they use men. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:25 PM
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My point was that you don't have to hate minorities to be racist, and you don't have to hate women to be misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:18 PM
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I'm platonic friends with plenty of women and men. If you choose to limit yourself that's your decision to make, I just think it's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:03 PM
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Pretty much anyone who takes offense easily would go on the defensive and not read/understand what's actually being said. Well duh. If you use crude language and talk down to people then of course they're not going to listen as to what you say. If some guy came up to me and my boyfriend and said "hey faggots, be sure to use a condom when fucking each other up the ass so you don't get AIDs!" I'm not going to think that was a lesson on STD prevention. If TRP tells you to be an asshole to get girls…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:59 PM
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Black people are intellectually inferior to white people. They are incapable of being good leaders and should never be put in positions of power. They'd much rather spend their days monkeying around and stealing televisions, which All Black People Do. It's not their fault really, their simple minds are just not capable of the kind of maturity of us white folk. It's not like I hate them, I just accept them for who they are; they intellectually have the minds of children. Did that sound racist to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:56 PM
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Pragmatism is also the main reason why TRP is filled with people giving field reports, opinions and advice. Men share their experiences with each other to show what works in a specific scenario and what doesn't. This is why these OPs don't need some scientific/academic-peer reviewed report. Since when do pragmatic people believe anonymous stories on the internet and ignore scientific/academic-peer reviewed reports? when a TRPer says "AWALT", it looks simple, stupid and a HUGE generalization of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:47 PM
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Lol if you think you're doing something productive by posting on any subreddit I have bad news for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:44 PM
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Holy shit you weren't joking about the nazi thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:42 PM
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TRP has developed their own way of living. TBP is there to mock it? I don't understand the sense in doing that and spending time doing that. Isn't it just best to live and let live instead of going around and finding people to mock? Yeah that's my stance on it. I'm not a fan of any "anti-sub", or subreddit that's devoted to the anti-thesis of something. /r/thebluepill, /r/shitredditsays, /r/fatpeoplehate, /r/childfree, /r/atheism, and /r/GamerGhazi are all pretty bad. The problem with those kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:40 PM
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9/10 girls (probably more) that I interact with work under the assumption that I am trying to fuck them or get with them in some way Or.... maybe they're just treating you the same way you treat guys and you're overanalyzing this whole situation and making it weird. Most of my female relationships have never had a sexual component at all. Whether its my sisters friends, or my female coworkers, or my buddy's gfs, there's so many women out there who are undatable for some reason but still friend-w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:22 PM
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it's just easily observable that 99% of a man's female friends are just failed courtships. How do you even get that impression? It's like 15% max for me. I fuck dudes but that doesn't mean I'm incapable of being friends with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:19 PM
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Sex is a smaller aspect of life than companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:15 PM
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Despite its name PPD is intended to be a safe haven for TRP, not an open debate sub. Bullshit. The sidebar says it's a neutral community for TRP and TBP, and one of the mods here is anti-TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:13 PM
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Yeah. I'm sure that "beta orbiters" exist. But to claim that that's representative of all male/female friendships sounds more like projection than an analysis of all relationships to me. I'm acquaintances with dozens of womens that I don't want to pursue romantically, and friends with a few of them. I guess being bi gives me a different perspective on this though. Like, I'm totally capable of being friends with a guy and not trying to fuck him, so why would women be any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 12:47 PM
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Deny it all you like, but see /r/relationships to see the truth. Exactly. And visit /r/conspiracy to see the truth about Jews! And visit /r/politics to see the truth about Republicans! And visit /r/TheBluePill to see the truth about TRP!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:26 AM
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I don't believe men and women can be just friends. I find this view sad. You're just limiting yourself from being friends with half the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:24 AM
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It does fit with the TRP narrative. So it doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:19 AM
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That video gave me cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:19 AM
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Both sides have problems. The existence of one gender's problems doesn't invalidate the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:53 AM
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Oh... you're a libertarian...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:12 AM
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Oh yeah? Well your statement is untrue. Isn't this kind of debating fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:41 AM
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I would say men bear a far greater burden Well the actual stats say that women make up 84% of domestic violence victims but you're allowed to say whatever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:33 AM
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men are quite frequently the victims of DV The issue was whether there's a category where women are "worse off". Domestic violence affects both genders but women bear the brunt of it. Lets look at for example, south korea, oh look a woman president. If we're going worldwide then I can definitely find examples of women being treated worse off than men. Again, I'm not debating which gender has it worse. I'm just stating that both genders have issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:23 AM
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Alright, you got me. I still think it's ridiculous to claim that there's women face literally no disadvantages in america but your study is more reliable than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:20 AM
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so if women aren't earning less Hey, news flash for you: women are earning less! And not the BS 77% statistic, even when you factor for occupation, college major, hours worked, employment sector, and other factors women still make 7% less than men. But despite this quantifiable disadvantage I'm sure you'll still find a way to hamster this one out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:01 AM
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If it's inconsequential then it's not a disadvantage. So you not only don't know the definition of "quantifiable", you also don't know the definition of "inconsequential". Inconsequential doesn't mean "doesn't exist", it means "not important". 0.1% interest on $10 is inconsequential but you'd by objectively wrong if you said it didn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:51 AM
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Lol how is abortion not a gendered issue? That's like saying marriage equality has nothing to do with gay people. you took back this claim after seeing contrary evidence. You're right. And that's why I'm done talking with you. I only debate people that can reconcile new evidence with their previous assertions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:46 AM
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it seems inconsequential. That's besides the point! It's quantifiable! It's a way in which women are worse off than men! It's your bigfoot which you claim doesn't exist! When you say "well here's other stuff that makes up for it" you're admitting that there is a quantifiable way in which women are disadvantaged. Seriously, what do you think "quantifiable" means? Not once have I been debating whether men or women have it worse. I'm just trying to shove some grey into that black and white mindset …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:43 AM
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Lol keep backtracking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:36 AM
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my argument is even given any sexism, women's privileges still radically outweigh their setbacks by such a degree, they are insignificant. Uh, no that's not your argument. There's nothing in modern life women don't get a better deal at Who knew men were so good at hamstering?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:28 AM
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So when you said "There literally isn't one quantifiable way in which women are worse off" you didn't actually mean it. I offer you studies and studies and you counter with "It really just seems very likely...", as if that's a valid response to a quantifiable statement. Seriously, what's your definition of "quantifiable"? Hey, here's another quantifiable way women are worse off: Resumes with female names get offered less money than the same resumes with male names. Let me guess, this one doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:23 AM
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Sexism is everywhere on both sides. We could go back and forth with male vs female privileges Wait a second, there's sexism on both sides? Both men and women have privileges? That's my entire point. If you agree with that then I don't even know what we're talking about. if she attempted to kill herself and didn't, either she just wanted attention, she wasn't AS depressed as the men, or people cared about her more so as to be able to find her more quickly when things go awry Lol attempting suicid…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:15 AM
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So when there's a study by the department of justice showing a quantifiable way that men have it worse off, it's golden. But when there's a study by the department of justice showing a quantifiable way that women have it worse off, we need some more information. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:11 AM
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Alright, fair enough with the rape stats. Not only does that affect men more but it's also taken less seriously. But what about the domestic violence study? Like, the one you linked. That quantifiably showed a way in which women were worse off. Which is the exact opposite of your original premise. Any comment on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:02 AM
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The department of justice disagrees with your first source, but what would they know about crime. Even according to your source: "Regarding injury, men were more likely to inflict injury than were women". What's that? Is that a quantifiable way that women are worse off? No, it couldn't be. Second topic, LOLDAILYMAIL. Although they source the department of justice I can't find the actual link. If you cite the primary source I'll believe you, but the official records I found indicate the opposite …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:45 AM
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Resumes with female names get offered less money than the same resumes with male names. Women are still expected to give up their surname for their husbands surname. Even then more men successfully commit suicide, more women attempt it. 40% of workers lack access to maternity leave Women are vastly underrepresented in government But let me guess, these don't count and you'll ignore everything I said and continue with your "women literally have 0 problems in america!" mantra.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:34 AM
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There literally isn't one quantifiable way in which women are worse off that isn't silly horseshit like manspreading or catcalling, or issues not caused by sexism such as periods and pregnancy. Domestic violence? Rape? Being represented in government? It's one thing to think that your side has it worse but it's another thing to flat-out deny that the other side has any problems whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:24 AM
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Literally every other crime in the criminal code disproportionately affects men, so who cares? That's weird, because women make up 2/3rd of all domestic violence cases. How many more examples do I have to come up with before you'll agree that women have it better in some ways and men have it better in some ways? Your refusal to see any kind of middle ground is the only reason I'm bringing this stuff up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:13 AM
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Women getting raped at a rate of 91% is meaningless unless you're going to also argue rape is the only serious crime in the world. Of course it's not the only serious crime in the world. But it is a serious crime that disproportionally affects women. Just like false rape accusations is mainly a male issue. That's why it's ridiculous to say that "There's nothing in modern life women don't get a better deal at". I just listed something that women don't get a better deal at.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 12:51 AM
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Restricted after six weeks is essentially a ban. It's possible to not even know you're pregnant in that time period. Have you ever known a woman who got an abortion before 6 weeks?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 12:35 AM
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Your opponent is much more skilled, and beats you easily while trash talking: “You’re terrible at this game, why don’t you just quit? Holy shit, you’re the worst player I’ve ever faced.” Possible Response “Why are you so angry? I’m just curious – I play video games for fun but you seem to be taking this personally. You okay?” Jesus Christ, TRPers have no problem calling women gold-digging whores but as soon as you insult their skill at videogames it becomes serious business. I love how he contra…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 12:18 AM
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Yeah I'd agree. Not only are these mostly bad responses but they don't even seem like TRP. Half of the advice is to ignore other people's insults or act like you didn't comprehend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 12:17 AM
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My bad, a judge overruled ND's abortion ban last year. Still though, they only have one clinic for the entire state.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 12:02 AM
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You can be confident, assertive and dominant without being an asshole. Absolutely, which is why I hate this "nice guy vs asshole" debate. It completely misses the point. Active dread game is somewhat easier to do and is probably what you consider to be "a dick move". It is essentially actively letting a girl know that you have options by talking to other girls. It's not necessarily flirting with other girls, but simply being around other girls works enough. Maybe I was misinformed then, because …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 11:27 PM
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There's nothing in modern life women don't get a better deal at 91% of rape victims are women. Abortions are illegal in certain states like North Dakota, and heavily restricted in many others. 77% of single parents are mothers. I mean, if you want to have this dumb debate of which gender has it worse go ahead. But to outright say that there literally no situation in which women get the short stick you're making it really easy to dismiss your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 11:03 PM
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I think it's kinda ridiculous to assume that you already know what it's like to experience life as the opposite gender. I think it's also ridiculous to say that one gender has it objectively better in every single way. Both men and women have unique problems in society so playing this pity party game of "it's harder to be on my side!" is really pointless. I mean, I know I wouldn't change anything intrinsic about myself but I was pretty lucky in the genetic lottery. But it makes sense that people…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 10:55 PM
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Her Thought Catalog and Elite Daily posts are targeted at women. Did you read anything I linked? She's attacked assholes in her articles and also said that she prefers assholes in her articles. She's not consistent in her Elite Daily posts at all because they're designed to create controversy. Sorry, this isn't /r/feminism or /r/twoxchromosomes Dude I spend more time on 4chan than any feminist place. I'm not "triggered!" right now, it's just a stupid phrase like "cuck" or "hamster". Imagine if I…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 10:39 PM
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Yeah, absolutely. I hate this kind of "journalism". That said, I'm willing to bet she knows exactly what she's doing. There's a reason why we're discussing her article right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 10:33 PM
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women "don't know what the fuck they want." On their OKCupid and Match profiles, they convince themselves they want Nice GuysTM . On Elite Daily and Thought Catalog, they want Alpha Jerk-Boy douchebags. Then why would you say that this "confirms RP teachings" and she's "admitting" that TRP is right? If she's saying things on both ends of the spectrum then that validates the other side just as much. tingle Can you not?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 10:32 PM
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I'm pretty sure Elitedaily doesn't say "vagina tingles".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 10:25 PM
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Exactly. Which is why saying "assholes get women" is kinda pointless because it all depends on what your definition of an asshole is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 10:24 PM
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Look at the Facebook comments below the article. All women. Yeah, and they're outraged. Now look at the comments section of the "only assholes get friendzoned" article, it's 95% outraged men. Both groups will post these articles on their Facebook's saying "I can't believe someone would write this!". And then guys like you will read it and post the link here, so that more people will read it. And at the end of the day, thousands of people are reading her articles. You know why? Because it's click…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 10:22 PM
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So then why would you give any credence to the article you listed in your OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 10:07 PM
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This is just an attempt to defy the label It's not my label. Call me what you want but don't expect me to agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 09:58 PM
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That's part of it. There's a reason why the "rule-breaker bad boy" is such a popular trope. You're perceived as daring if you play by your own rules. But "asshole" is a phrase that means something different to every individual. I knew plenty of Nice GuysTM that would call every fit, well-dressed man who's successful with women a douchebag.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 09:56 PM
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vagina tingles This is why no one takes TRP seriously. this woman is making a tacit admission that being an asshole is what makes the guy "interesting" in the first place. So suddenly when a woman says something you agree with, she stops being a fish and starts being a fisher[wo]man. Hey, here's another article from the same author saying that assholes get "friendzoned". She just made a tacit admission that TRP doesn't work. Busted. Oh wait, here's an article by her saying that she misses her as…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 09:48 PM
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Lena Dunham, star of HBO's Girls, has been hailed as the voice of the millennial generation. Who?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 09:38 PM
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I've never denied that interesting guys will do better with women than Nice GuysTM . I just don't think that you have to be an asshole in order to appear confident and interesting. Same deal with dread game. I've never debated as to how effective it is. I just think it's a dick move. I'm curious how some of the people here will rationalize how this doesn't confirm RP teachings. Probably the same way you guys rationalize all editorials that don't gel with RP teachings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 09:35 PM
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Are you even reading what i'm writing? Whatever, you clearly have your own opinions about what I apparently believe and that's not going to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 07:24 PM
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So should married couples not be allowed to file taxes together? Say a spouse dies, should their partner be taxed when they inherit the other person's belongings? Say a soldier dies in a war, should his/her widow not receive any compensation? Should a spouse not get any say regarding how their partner should be buried? Should people not be allowed to visit their partners in jail who are only allowed to access immediate family members? Should spouses be compelled to testify against their partners…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 07:21 PM
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It does apply to those groups. I've met religious fundamentalists and radical feminists before. But I've never met a feminist that claimed that "being masculine is toxic". Just like I've met plenty of people who like playstation but none of them have ever been like "Micro$oft sux, Sony all the way lololol". As far as I'm concerned, those are just from pointless debates online.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 07:17 PM
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Lol a few months ago everyone was complaining that this sub was too anti-TRP. And a couple months before that I remember posts like yours. It's the nature of the sub, there's never going to be a 50/50 split. As long as we're all allowed to express our opinion I don't really care who's subscribed here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 07:05 PM
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On the internet I've seen cloppers, incels, console warriors, demisexuals, TRPers, and HAES people. Literally none of those groups are relevant in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 07:03 PM
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I'll never understand this "my gender has it harder in modern day america!" debate. Both sides have advantages and both sides have problems. The important thing is at least we're white and in america /s
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 06:46 PM
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I don't personally know them so my stance is still valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 05:37 PM
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However, from everything I hear these threads also ban you on a regular basis for voicing disagreements, even if it's just constructive feedback So just like TRP then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 04:28 PM
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I don't consider myself RP or BP because I don't really label myself into any group on the internet. I'm usually called a BPer on this sub which I guess makes sense but it seems like such a useless label. BP can be defined as either part of the group that actively mocks TRP or it could just be anything that's not TRP... or anything in between. At this point its like calling someone a feminist, what does that even mean anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 06:59 AM
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TRP does not say to treat women like men, they say to treat women like children. They claim that women make terrible friends, incompetent leaders, and are incapable of "male virtues" like honor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 01:17 AM
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Lol because if there's one thing I've experienced in NYC it's selflessness and treating women on the street like princesses. That's why there was that video filmed in NYC a while back filled with people saying nice things to women! if scores of people found that advice elsewhere TRP wouldn't exist in the first place. Just like the existence of /r/conspiracy is proof that the Zionists control the media.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 11:45 PM
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Nah I still can't post on TRP. I visit there a lot just to make sure that they're still crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 11:41 PM
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I think the activist social justice scene in general sucks. The activist social justice scene gave me the right to marry my boyfriend if I wanted to. The social justice scene is running a soup kitchen downtown. The social justice scene is advocating for women's education in the middle east. Stop acting like demisexuals with a Tumblr account are representative of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 10:45 PM
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SJW by definition only refers to social justice advocates that you disagree with. There is no "social justice warrior" coalition. On 4chan I've seen anons call Obama a SJW because he endorsed gay marriage. So when you say that feminists are prominently "SJWs" it just sounds to me like you don't like modern feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 10:44 PM
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Men are constantly told that they should treat the women they're with like princesses. They're told not to expect anything from their wife/girlfriend/etc, lest they objectify her. That's a huge generalization and you only see your side of it. Women constantly feel like they're being told that they have to cook, clean, and take care of kids while also holding down a career. Saying "Women are never told they need to pamper there man" is blatantly false. Listen to this segment on Dr Phil, it's lite…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:42 PM
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I'm not banned? That's weird, considering that I got this message and can't post on /r/TheRedPill.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:33 PM
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Lol I think you completely missed what I was doing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 08:11 PM
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Why are you avoiding my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 08:05 PM
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You do know the main technique to get over LMR, dating from back to oldschool "The Game" and Mystery PUA days is to completely recede back and end the sexual mood completely. Eh... I've seen it go other ways. On the "Comprehensive Guide to The Red Pill" they define Last Minute Resistance as: "Contrary to feminist sloganeering, no doesn't always mean no. Often times “no” simply means “not yet”. Simplest advice is to back off and try again later, or if she's adamant and clearly shutting you down. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:59 PM
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What do TRPer's dissenting opinion have to do with women's rights? Because that is (I'd say) the prime reason for /r/feminism's existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:45 PM
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No one anywhere will tell you to always look after your own needs first before any women. Seriously? Literally no one? Are you living in Jezebelistan or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:35 PM
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I never felt like I needed to change Then why would you think your situation would change?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:33 PM
5

Your analogy would make a lot more sense if it was easier to access TRP than any other subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:32 PM
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Who cares about mainstream advice. 45% of Americans believe in ghosts. If you don't want to be a pushover then don't, and there's plenty of advice on how to stand up for yourself. I don't get this notion of "most people say this so I have to follow it!". 10 years ago most people were not down with dudes fucking other dudes but it's not like I had the luxury of "oh well that's what most people say so I guess that's what I'm rolling with". So I have very little sympathy for men who don't have the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:31 PM
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The grocery store near my house doesn't try to tell me that tomatoes are riding the celery carousel or whatever. I'm not denying that TRP has some good advice, just like a piece of cake with a turd on top is partially edible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:28 PM
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So TRP offers literally nothing unique and is drenched in misogynistic seasoning. You yourself admit that their ideology is "pretty fucked up" and that some advice "can be very dangerous if taken seriously". But apparently that's all worth it because it's too difficult to look at multiple sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:25 PM
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Well yeah, if by "feminists" you mean "SJWs" then sure. Just like I can say "men who try to improve themselves are misogynists" if you define "men who try to improve themselves" as "TRP".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:23 PM
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Where? http://www.modernman.com/ http://www.askmen.com/ http://www.mensfitness.com/ http://www.artofmanliness.com/ /r/DecidingToBeBetter/ /r/socialskills /r/malefashionadvice In the age of information, saying "I didn't know!" is a really weak excuse. Even the TRP specific stuff you listed are just new labels on old concepts. The "abundance mentality"? That's from 7 Habits of highly effective people which is literally the first book that appears when you google "self-help books". Anyone who put i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:21 PM
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When women do this thing it's because they need their delicate sensibilities catered to. But when we do it it's because WE'RE UNDER ATTACK AND NEED PROTECTION!.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:13 PM
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I got banned from TRP because I disagree with their message. Why is it a "safe space"? Isn't it kind of insulting to TRPers to assume they need protection from.... well, words? And also kind of contradictory to TRP's message of men being strong and independent?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:12 PM
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Most guys aren't that confident, don't focus on improving their financial and social life, and don't make getting big and strong a priority. So? Most people in America don't eat well. That's not because "there's no good advice for fat people!", it's because people don't make the effort to improve themselves. TRP offers literally no good advice that you can't find somewhere else. Seriously, name one thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:11 PM
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Be confident, improve yourself, lift, and don't be a pussy. Don't let yourself be taken advantage of in relationships with both men and women. This is advice you don't really find in the mainstream. Everything you said right here is super basic shit that I figured out by myself in high school. I can point to dozens of blogs and pop culture icons in today's society that say this stuff. Is "don't get taken advantage of" really such a rare piece of advice that you need to venture through the depths…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 06:55 PM
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Today was colder than it was yesterday. Therefore, global warming is a hoax. QED.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 08:00 AM
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But it's a lot easier to quantify purchasing decisions. If Target has the same products as Walmart for a cheaper price then consumers will gravitate towards that. No one has a Target "fetish" or just connects with that store better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 09:38 AM
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Yup, although he abandoned his governmentgetgfs tag a while ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 07:29 AM
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I've been poly since high school. I didn't make a hard decision about it one day or anything, it's just always been the easiest way for me. I move a lot and don't like to get tied down but I still like having regular hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 03:15 AM
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Huh, that's interesting. We learned something similar in pscyhology where if you first ask someone for a big favor (like staying at their place for a few days or helping you move) then they're more likely to say yes if you then ask them a small favor (like for a few bucks or a ride across town). Anyways, I'd say that's true for me. I used to categorize all PUA guys in the same camp as Julien Blanc but after spending some time on /r/seduction I realized that most of those guys are just looking fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 03:00 AM
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Especially in the TRP context. They're constantly talking about "the sexual marketplace" and framing things in an economic context. I think that's an interesting perspective but inaccurate when it comes to relationships, because we don't date and fuck people based on logical reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 11:34 PM
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How about that incel guy. He always has something interesting to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 11:17 PM
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Looks too outrageous to be true Seriously. She didn't even put "Field Report" in her title.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 06:58 PM
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I just like internet arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 06:55 PM
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It's an anonymous story on the internet. Treat it like fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 06:55 PM
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Yeah, I approach chicks in public all the time and have plenty of pre-marital sex, I've never been called those things. Maybe if OP is constantly getting accused of "grey raping" women he should take a look at himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:20 PM
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Field reports are like that all the time. Two months ago I was a beta cuck. Then I discovered TRP and began working out. Now I'm drowning in pussy, thanks Red PillTM
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 09:56 AM
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I assume everything on the internet is false until proven otherwise. Maybe that's just because I've been on 4chan for so long.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 11:20 PM
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And /r/BlackPeopleTwitter has 200k subs and is only 4 months old. The amount of subscribers has very little to do with its message or quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:38 PM
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feminism also somewhat "promises sex" What feminists are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:36 PM
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Eh, TRP always gave me a vibe of "follow our steps and you'll be an alpha spinning plates in no time! Just swallow this pill and follow this one weird trick. Feminists hate him! Here's the information they don't want you to know"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:36 PM
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The redpillers on this sub are definitely more reasonable than the ones on /r/TheRedPill. Or at the very least, they know they can't get away with saying shit like "all women are gold-digging whores" on PPD. But yeah, ROK is absolutely ridiculous. They wrote an article about wanting to ban gay dudes from lockerrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:34 PM
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ROK is an endorsed site on TRP's sidebar and /u/redpillschool hosted one of their authors AMAs on TRP. I don't like that site either but it's definitely part of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:42 PM
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I don't even know how a guy can stay turned on in a situation like that Yeah seriously. I've slept with a couple people who weren't really into it and the sex wasn't even worth it. I can't imagine what sex would be like with someone who's actively trying to stop. I mean, I don't think that you need to get consent for literally every sexual move that you make. But if she seems hesitant, or says "no", or has "last minute resistance" then just put your dick back in your pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:38 PM
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What do you mean by "sophisticated"? Like, talking about paintings and philosophy and stuff? Nah I'm good.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:34 PM
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I have experienced that kind of chick before but it's ridiculous to assume that it's a "sizable subset of the female gender" based off of one joke. Just like it would be ridiculous to assume that most men love rollerblading based off of the other joke that I linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:59 PM
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Eh, sometimes there is and sometimes there isn't. Very rarely is the reaction equal in size to the action. Relationships are so unique to each couple that you can't really generalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:53 PM
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Yeah exactly, it's a comedian making a joke with the purpose of making the audience laugh. Not some moral/philosophical lesson about the realities of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:50 PM
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There is no such thing as a homosexual act. Wait what. What would you call two dudes blowing each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:31 PM
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Do you think your own asshole is gay, regardless of who's touching it? I think that says something about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:30 PM
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What are you even talking about? This isn't nuance, this is you taking a comedian's anecdote about one woman and then applying it to the whole gender. Louis CK also did this bit, so I guess from this we can assume that all men are gay and love rollerblading.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 09:06 AM
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I thought women would see it as satire. Lol he's so immersed in TRP that statements like "I'm here to meet someone special." and "I'm a strong, independent, gentleman who has self respect" are considered blatant satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 09:03 AM
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The joke regards how women basically wanna be raped and how this puts men in a fucked up situation. No, the joke is about one woman who Louis CK describes as "out of her fucking mind".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:57 AM
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A man and a woman having sex is homosexual ok
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:03 AM
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The only mainstream support for rape I've seen on TRP is wanting to get rid of the laws regarding marital rape. /u/redpillschool has said before that he doesn't believe that spouses can be raped because you consented to sex when you got married. Other than that, nah. Those images just prove that TRP is super misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 02:37 AM
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It's totally a thing, especially in the manosphere. Guys that sound a whole lot like you claim it's a slur and a way to silence men. Article on it Example #1 Example #2 Example #3
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 02:30 AM
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What about a chick who's into feet? Or likes anal? Or likes roleplaying? Fetish doesn't just mean 50 shades of gray.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 02:22 AM
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Oh come on, are you one of those guys that believes in "creep-shaming"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 02:20 AM
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I've only met two, and they were kinda cagey about admitting it. Chicks don't wear their sexuality on their sleeves as much as guys do. A lot of women kinda see me as a gay guy so they feel more comfortable opening up about that kind of stuff with me. Anyways lesbian porn is pretty "fake", even more so than most porn. A lot of those chicks aren't actually gay and they dress up in ways that appeal to guys, like having long fingernails and high heels. Tbh I'm not even sure what kind of porn real l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 02:09 AM
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Well I do see your point. From my perspective, bi dudes are treated as way gayer than bi chicks are. Two chicks snuggling or making out is cute but two dudes doing that is more likely to make people uncomfortable. Gay porn is pretty much only for gay/bi-men. Lesbian porn is appreciated (to whatever extent porn is appreciated) by hetero men and many hetero/bi/lesbian women as well. Totally disagree. I know plenty of chicks into gay porn. And real lesbians hate the kind of lesbian porn that you wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:37 AM
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this is EXACTLY the kind of person that Bluepillers and Feminists would call an "entitled manbaby," a "douche," and other assorted terms of vitriol. So you mean they haven't? Also, lol dailymail
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:30 AM
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No... you haven't answered my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 09:00 PM
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You never answered my question. Is "marriage equality" a misnomer or not? You said "You can't be about equality when you're purely directed at advocating for a single group.". Gay marriage would only benefit gay people, so do they not really want equal rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 08:47 PM
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Well, we haven't solved the easily identifiable inequalities. Gay marriage is still not legal in 13 states. And only 17 states have protections for LGBT people so that they can't get fired or evicted due to their sexual orientation or gender identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 08:37 PM
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Hey guys, I made a bait thread and people posted bait comments then people on the internet took the bait. What gives?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 08:27 PM
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19 minute video starts by talking about his refrigerator nope
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 08:25 PM
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So if all men are capable of sluttery, and all women are capable of sluttery, then what's the point in singling out women? That's like saying "all black people steal. Well not all of them, but they all have the capability of stealing. And so does every other race. So all black people steal"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 08:23 PM
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Seriously, this. Everyone has their own idea of what feminism is so it's almost useless as a term now. If you say that you don't like feminism on Tumblr then a lot of people will think that you don't believe women should have equal rights as men. If you say that you're a feminist on TRP they'll automatically think you're a "PATRIARCHY MUHSOGNY SHUT UP SHITLORD" radfem. Some feminsits are deeply involved with LGBTQ politics, some feminsts are against transgender women. Some people say that if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 08:18 PM
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An ideology based on the benefit of a single group CANNOT be about equality by definition So do you think that "marriage equality" is a misnomer since it would only benefit gay people?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 08:14 PM
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For the most part if it doesn't support the TRP narrative it gets ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 08:08 PM
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There's an ideal balance. If it's too tight it's uncomfortable. One time I tried to take this chick's virginity and couldn't even fit it in. But if it's too loose, you're not really accomplishing much. You're just kinda pounding away for a while and if you're using a condom you're hardly feeling anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 09:19 PM
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I only have anecdotal evidence for this but I think you can get a "loose butthole" with enough experience. Not like it's constantly open and shit's falling out, just in the way that it's easier to stretch it open again. Vaginas though, nah. The biggest slut I know also has one of the tightest vaginas I've ever been inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 08:16 PM
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They got it all wrong. In reality, it's men's penises that become smaller through repeated sex. With every new vagina/anus, the penis is squeezed and becomes permanently thinner. Think about how you put a pencil in a pencil sharpener, eventually it's just a stub. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 08:14 PM
1

Fair enough, I guess the Mormons are into "plate-spinning" and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 07:12 PM
1

If you go to red pill school wait what
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 07:07 PM
2

I'd probably be a bit more bummed out if I've known them for a while but hey, what are you going to do? Part of asking people out is getting rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 07:06 PM
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Yeah, that's a good point. We've all heard some good advice from our parents that we ignored because you know... they're our parents. If our friends or someone we looked up to told us the same thing we'd probably actually follow that advice. So when I look at the culture and presentation of TRP I see a pseudo conspiracy/life-hack kind of blog. "Take this one pill and discover the truth that they don't want you to know. Feminists hate him!". I mean when you look at the matrix, all Neo has to do i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 07:03 PM
2

Wait, standing up for yourself is now considered modern advice? You think that literally no one in the mainstream culture said before 2010 "gee maybe I shouldn't let people walk all over me"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 06:58 PM
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A. Getting turned down sucks but if I literally just met them who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 06:53 PM
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I also think it's funny that radical feminists talk about how the Patriarchy controls everything and they're fighting an uphill battle. The extremists on both sides just love feeling like they're oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 04:58 AM
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using the term "SJWs" to describe any and all people with feminist leanings. I don't think I did. You don't happen to be a Tia regular do you? I visit that sub a lot but not because I agree with all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 04:49 AM
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Lol I love how any criticism of MRAs immediately turns into "well feminists are worse!"
/r/MensRights06/02/15 07:18 PM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 07:09 PM
2

Still, you prefer to focus on the word He Well yeah, my original point was that people in this thread were misgendering trans people. And then when I prove to you that's true you start saying "well at least he doesn't hate transgender people, he just doesn't respect their identities!"
/r/MensRights06/02/15 07:06 PM
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I play in a Pathfinder campaign with a brony "transsexual". He is genetically and biologically a normal human male, doesn't plan on gender reassignment treatment, but identifies as female. I believe I am a t rex trapped in a russian female soul, trapped in an American males body. Bonus anti-gay marriage round! To me, marriage is a religious term, and I think it was a bit out of step for gay people to try and invade their tradition, when really it wasn't hurting anyone the way it was.
/r/MensRights06/02/15 02:22 AM
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this is part of an attempt to paint the MRM as anti-trans No one needs to "attempt" to do this. There's tons of people in this thread deliberately misgendering trans people and comparing them to otherkin.
/r/MensRights06/02/15 01:57 AM
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Yeah, let's just give them separate but equal rights!
/r/MensRights06/02/15 01:47 AM
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Do you actively try out things that don't make any sense to you? Yeah. That's why I posted in TRP before I got banned there. That's why I tried sleeping with a guy when I wasn't sure with my sexuality. That's why I tried listening to metal even when most metalheads I know are douchebags. That's why I listen to people with different perspectives and experiences than mine. If you only do things that you're comfortable with and you only listen to things that you already agree with, then you have an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 12:27 AM
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It's not any different. I've said it before but TRPers and SJWs are mirror images of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 12:16 AM
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Ladies (18+ only) should be in formal attire that would be acceptable for dining out in a fine restaurant, attending the opera, or walking the red carpet. Mod post: "Please remember, both the submissions AND the comments need to be kept classy." And the fact that they call themselves "gentlemen". The /r/ladyboners name was more just describing the boner equivalent of a woman. They post SFW hot guys without pretending that they're trying to court them or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 11:52 PM
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So you just ignore things that don't fit with your previous world view. That's called confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 11:26 PM
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I never really hung out with cool kids in school. I figured it out eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 09:49 PM
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7/10 m8 If you keep CAPITALIZING RANDOM WORDS and making comments like this then you'll have real POTENTIAL here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 08:56 PM
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Lol he literally calls himself "sexyMGTOW". Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 08:51 PM
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Not really, only my older sister had been on a date by the time I got a gf and I met him like once.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 08:48 PM
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Well yeah, if you go on an app that's 100% based on appearance then of course your appearance is going to matter. That's like going to a fashion show and saying "WOW I NEVER REALIZED HOW EVERYONE CARES ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE WEARING SO MUCH"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 07:44 PM
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Only physical appearance matters for SMV, and almost nothing else. Eh, I'd disagree with that, especially for guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 07:41 PM
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