Zorturan Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
32	Is it inherently wrong to change yourself?	Lifestyle	Zorturan	/r/seduction	07/06/24 08:55 AM
29	Attraction Killers	Conversation	Zorturan	/r/seduction	07/09/24 04:03 PM
17	Self Esteem	Inner Game	Zorturan	/r/seduction	09/08/24 02:46 PM
13	Successful Date but no escalation	Field Report	Zorturan	/r/seduction	16/02/26 10:51 AM
8	Only guy in a group	Inner Game	Zorturan	/r/seduction	09/03/25 03:20 AM
6	Girl is neutral towards me– How do I make her want me/escalate with her without trying too hard?	Outer Game	Zorturan	/r/seduction	06/02/25 09:03 PM
4	Gym Date?	Outer Game	Zorturan	/r/seduction	04/02/25 05:28 PM
0	Matched, then nothing?	Field Report	Zorturan	/r/seduction	02/02/26 07:50 PM

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
4	79 Women Later: Everything I’ve Learned About Women, Attraction, and Dating How did you rebuild yourself after the heartbreak, especially with that woman who cheated on you? Especially your self worth and confidence.	/r/seduction	24/07/26 12:23 AM
1	79 Women Later: Everything I’ve Learned About Women, Attraction, and Dating putting myself in the uncomfortable situations that boosted my confidence are essential. Can you elaborate? I got a really shitty haircut so I'm working out as a distraction waiting for it to grow back, so that's not an issue for me lol. But, it's the other thing I'm not really sure about. You mean like, looking for people to talk to?	/r/seduction	24/07/26 12:17 AM
2	“He who hesitates, Masturbates” I don't like it but I still try But it's hard to think of something that doesn't end in "yes" "no" or "thanks" or end up being directions somewhere. And then it's just a pleasant interview, so I guess quit while you're ahead, right? But it doesn't really do anything for or against you. Or maybe I just turn off every girl I do it with	/r/seduction	16/06/26 04:52 PM
0	You can see women as equals and do well So at least fucking say that in the post. Nobody's going to assume	/r/seduction	15/06/26 01:34 PM
4	You can see women as equals and do well You can see women as equals and do incredibly well for yourself. Matter of fact, you'll probably better. I'm not saying I don't already but you're saying "yeah you can get the same result or even better" without really showing how. Like, nobody's going to really listen to you if you're just saying things without really backing it up. I'm pretty sure most guys who don't see women as equals don't want to not. But it's what works, in their experience.	/r/seduction	15/06/26 01:30 PM
2	You can see women as equals and do well ...Not that. That should be obvious I'm not talking about that	/r/seduction	15/06/26 01:21 PM
2	You can see women as equals and do well Brother, most of us are miles away from having to worry about a long term relationship, much less marriage. Maybe you're not wrong, but how about show us how instead of saying it's possible and just... that's it.?	/r/seduction	15/06/26 01:05 PM
2	Girls smell your insecurity BEFORE you open your mouth That's dumb, no shit you have to try it But it's not like doing it over and over is going to make shit automatically click. As you can see all over the sub. Hell, it wouldn't exist if it was like that.	/r/seduction	31/05/26 11:27 PM
3	Something I noticed about men who sleep with alot of women. So what does he do	/r/seduction	30/04/26 04:35 AM
5	The Most Common Issue I See With Unnatural Men Brother who cares if she drops you next week when you can fuck now 😭😭	/r/seduction	22/04/26 12:11 AM
19	Why it’s important to go on dates with women you aren’t that attracted to when you are first starting out. “My opinion” Wouldn't it be better to just practice self awareness at all times? Instead of wasting the poor girl's time, your own, your money, and possibly breaking her heart or losing respect for yourself fucking a girl you don't even like. Trust me, I forced myself a few times and never again. Felt dirty for weeks after.	/r/seduction	18/04/26 04:44 AM
2	Feels like truly hot girls (8/10 or higher) are so hard to find outside of nightgame, social media or events. I don't think rich girls pay for that stuff, either lol. They probably walk around with their friends (because women don't do anything alone) hoping their type hits on them or something, or at least buys them a free drink And if they barely have hobbies beyond the gym, that's good, right? Even if you work out for a couple weeks just to get noticed in her background, you got a good exercise, right? Lol Like idk, introduce yourself, compliment her, go back to working out, then ask her out the next…	/r/seduction	12/04/26 06:48 PM
4	Feels like truly hot girls (8/10 or higher) are so hard to find outside of nightgame, social media or events. I'm wondering that, too. Probably on vacation or flown out to places like Dubai and Miami. Anywhere expensive, probably. The more money a place has, not only more stuff like bags and perfumes and makeup and luxury bullshit are being sold to them, but more money for marketing their clubs/bars as the best place around. Plus even if she's not that type of girl, commercial districts are like the real life internet, there's not only always something but probably ten of them. Besides that guess I real…	/r/seduction	12/04/26 06:25 PM
3	Kissing and making out on date is rookie move Ngl I give up, rocket surgery would be less complicated. "Escalate as much as possible, oh but not too much, definitely don't make out unless you're having sex, even if you both want it because she'll want you more" Like wtf you can't be serious, what next don't cum? Oh wait, actually maybe not being hard would be better, makes her feel like she has to "work for it" smfh g fucking g	/r/seduction	11/03/26 03:04 AM
2	Manufactured pre-selection is the ultimate cheat code. Here is exactly how I fake it. Maybe I'll leave a girly knicknack on my bag or something? Like a pin maybe Wearing a hairband unironically seems kinda gay and will give her whiplash when I wanna smash	/r/seduction	03/03/26 08:49 PM
2	Successful Date but no escalation Oh well I did plenty of smaller scale stuff like her shoulder and waist, so there's at least that. But she did notice me a bit tense and nervous, bringing it up and telling me to relax, so I think that at least in the beginning she really liked me, not sure now after the fact, maybe it died a little. Thanks though, although it was mostly browsing here than movies that got me the idea	/r/seduction	17/02/26 12:08 AM
1	Successful Date but no escalation Ok I was thinking I accidentally locked myself in a boyfriend role or something and turned her off even though she likes being around me, if that makes sense	/r/seduction	16/02/26 11:24 AM
11	What are guys supposed to do if girls are simply not interested in them? Decide sets for you who you can burn, What does this mean? I genuinely don't understand	/r/seduction	13/02/26 07:19 PM
2	Matched, then nothing? Fuuuck I can't believe I thought so little about everything I feel so stupid	/r/seduction	02/02/26 09:26 PM
1	Matched, then nothing? You can call on tinder??? Wow ok	/r/seduction	02/02/26 09:01 PM
1	Matched, then nothing? I was going anyway and figured why not bring her along, fuck Is it salvageable because I spilt up my messages and I don't want to triple text	/r/seduction	02/02/26 08:46 PM
1	Matched, then nothing? Guess I'll never know	/r/seduction	02/02/26 08:34 PM
2	Approaching veiled women You'd be surprised how many that type of risk pulls in	/r/seduction	24/12/25 02:40 AM
1	having multiple women isn't just a choice it's a necessity. Salma Hayek is like 50 dude, it's not an age thing it's hotness	/r/seduction	14/12/25 03:24 AM
17	Fix your Incel mindset before you go and seduce/harass women I never said women are attracted to the sexism, I'm just saying having that mindset or a positive one won't necessarily make a difference, definitely not noticeably unless you're some kind of schizo with no social skills, but again that's a different issue	/r/seduction	20/11/25 10:37 PM
123	Fix your Incel mindset before you go and seduce/harass women Really doubt that would actually make much of a difference. I'm not an incel or misogynistic, and get zero actual play. And I'm not some chubby stinky basement dweller with zero social skill, either. Although I've seen actual misogynists pick up women like flies I agree to treat people like people, but let's not pretend it's the real issue	/r/seduction	20/11/25 11:44 AM
20	Is it bad to open up about your fuckboy beliefs/lifestyle to monogamous male friends? It's like you have orphan friends and you're telling them how awesome your parents are, in a nutshell We're happy for you but if they're not looking to adopt then please stfu, is like what they're probably thinking	/r/seduction	19/11/25 06:30 PM
25	What's the most brutal rejection someone here has ever gotten? I walked up to a girl and she saw me coming and shook her head saying "Nope, no" and shooing me off with her hand I was so embarrassed I forgot her face lol But my personal worst was in middle school I stayed up till late making drafts on drafts of poems for this girl I liked for valentine's day, and practiced origami to make a folding heart that would show the poem unfolded She ripped it up into tiny pieces in front of the whole class, slowly I still remember what it felt like crying that day	/r/seduction	17/11/25 08:56 AM
2	There Are Guys In This Sub Who Don’t Know The Difference Between “Sexual Attraction” and “Physical Attraction “😳 Idk, thinking it should be easy kinda fucked my confidence up after strings of rejection and loneliness with no gap. I think it is what it is, and the difficulties change depending on where you currently are at compared to your environment and everyone else. So winning will make it easier to win, and the opposite seems true also.	/r/seduction	04/11/25 02:36 AM
11	Guys Who Have Brought a Women a Car how did it work out ? She'll definitely walk away from you if you do this💀 If she's not your wife, probably don't spend anything in the thousands for her? You two should be locked in before even considering simping on this level for her. Like, does she even simp for you? Even if she did I wouldn't recommend but at least in that case it could be salvageable If you really do like her and actually want her, don't do it. If you want to be used and given nothing in return, go for it. This is like a girl asking "should we …	/r/seduction	30/10/25 01:33 AM
13	How Small Requests Turn Into Big Wins in Dating (3 Psychology Triggers) I get why people are skeptical of AI — it can make stuff feel generic. That’s on me, and I’ll make more of an effort to keep it personal going forward. Lmfao brother you not slick	/r/seduction	17/10/25 03:34 PM
2	How do I not look like a loser in a club? Have fun Dance solo Look up club hits on YouTube, doesn't matter the years, then look up the dances for each song. Not choreography though, that's a bit intensive and more for others to watch than for you to do for yourself) Drink and watch, space out You can be on your phone occasionally, but only for like a few seconds at a time or to sound hound some songs that are playing for the above tip; Mostly just use your phone so you feel like you can rather than you're forcing yourself not to look at…	/r/seduction	30/09/25 08:05 PM
15	Being physically attractive makes life easier but it’s not the only advantage Same but minus the first part	/r/seduction	30/09/25 04:23 PM
11	Tired of the game, I want to go back in time How do you feel a spark when every girl you talk to is pretty much giving you an interest? Waiter, my steak is too juicy and this lobster is too buttery, I can't eat this	/r/seduction	27/09/25 06:21 PM
3	Insecure betas (personal/work environments) be very nice to the girls and talk in a trying to create rappor way that will instantly kill any attraction they had for you. Wait are you serious	/r/seduction	27/09/25 06:30 AM
4	Men, how do you want to get seduced by a woman? No it's definitely the nails, trust It's like the touch version of seeing someone bite their lip but more	/r/seduction	14/09/25 05:18 PM
1	Girls only lust after me, but have no interest in dating What's getting them to lust after you? Maybe you can try to get them to love you by using their lust against them, like how some guys try and get sex with emotional intimacy	/r/seduction	30/08/25 03:12 AM
1	Is it worth it to have sex with a woman if your not that attracted to her? No, you probably won't even finish and then she'll feel like shit too	/r/seduction	24/07/25 01:03 PM
2	You’re Hotter Than You Think: Why Attraction Makes No Logical Sense So your ranking is your own personal ranking of you much you are attracted to her? Yes but sometimes I might adjust for who I'm talking to and call a personal 10 a 6 or 8 to express how down bad I am for her but can't explain, but that's really situational. I don't really care about other's ratings except to understand and bond over similarities, like comparing favorite dinosaurs back in school as kids. I find that women usually do the matching with society and friends thing, which is... frustra…	/r/seduction	17/05/25 01:47 PM
1	You’re Hotter Than You Think: Why Attraction Makes No Logical Sense Why do you need to rank women? You’re attracted to them or you’re not attracted to them. I think maybe this is just an example of how men and women's brains are different. Why? Same reason we measure everything else. Temperature, sea level, air pressure... everything affects everything else, even if it feels relatively the same, it's not. That's how you learn and grow and do better. Some foods are impossible to make if you follow the instructions and your local climate is way too wildly differen…	/r/seduction	17/05/25 01:25 PM
1	Sex appeal So how tf I get this shit? I'm deadass I feel like this has to be what I'm missing to get better	/r/seduction	30/04/25 05:53 PM
1	Top Reasons Why You Can't Get Laid (II) I walk past like... maybe a hundred every day. Do you think normal people spend their free time wandering Times Square?	/r/seduction	28/04/25 02:21 PM
5	Top Reasons Why You Can't Get Laid (II) Dude I haven't even met 2000 people much less girls, this is ridiculous	/r/seduction	19/04/25 05:45 AM
5	How do you guys deal with the mental side of things when pulling girls in the club? Just stay in the moment and have fun, and lock eyes with a girl dancing next to you and smile, then go for the dance	/r/seduction	17/03/25 10:19 PM
7	Only guy in a group 23	/r/seduction	09/03/25 03:27 AM
5	“Women don’t need seduction” myth needs to stop if he’s not good at game and I’m not good at game. How are we going to talk to each other? Just... talk? It's not like not having game makes the both of you socially anxious shy types. If it's someone you like then just ask them out, I guess. I just don't see how it could be so complicated, sorry. But then again I'm here, I don't know what I'm doing.	/r/seduction	08/03/25 05:16 AM
2	Did I fumble this or was she just never that into me? Lmfaooo you didn't just fumble her you curved her ass	/r/seduction	04/03/25 04:09 AM
1	I built a game that help you pass her sh*t tests Well I mean... that could be why, just putting it out there.	/r/seduction	17/02/25 11:34 PM
249	I built a game that help you pass her sh*t tests Holy shit it's so hard to get above 70 in anything, this is accurate	/r/seduction	11/02/25 04:56 AM
1	Girl is neutral towards me– How do I make her want me/escalate with her without trying too hard? I noticed I do make her smile easily— And I don’t exactly need help being funny, but sometimes I lose it. Something to keep that relaxed and quick mindset would really be appreciated, too. You cannot be a noob in a sport or game and win the tournament, you need to train over and over sí that when the final of the tournament comes, you have the skills to actually have a chance at winning. I don't really understand. I just want a quick way to recalibrate to my natural self, is all. Heck, you would…	/r/seduction	06/02/25 10:17 PM
1	Gym Date? Oh I know that, the kbbq thing wasn't a date because I wanted to hang with her in a group before I asked her out so she'd know what I'm like and say yes easier. Basically having her see how fun I am and the fact that I have attractive female friends, and am at least one of the more attractive guys in the group would have mist of my work cut out for me, is what I thought. We had a good time regardless, but she just wasn't there to see it... Anyway, the idea for the date I was planning to ask her …	/r/seduction	05/02/25 01:07 PM
1	Gym Date? So is it a couple thing or not? The other guy said it's kinda much.	/r/seduction	04/02/25 09:37 PM
1	Gym Date? Well I really wanted to use that as an excuse to get her hungry to go on the real date, but I never thought it was more of a bf/gf thing.	/r/seduction	04/02/25 07:22 PM
1	Gym Date? I mean, if the whole group is going to go do it separately anyway, why not do it together, right?	/r/seduction	04/02/25 07:03 PM
1	How to build the mindset/confidence that you’re good enough? How do you do all that without like... asking her out? Or being too forward? It's a problem I've had for a while, and in trying to fix it I just get overlooked.	/r/seduction	21/01/25 12:52 AM
1	Attraction Killers Huh... ok, so just bring up something about her I like? That's not physical, I'm guessing? Something like "I really like girls who x" or "I like girls that are y", right? How do you even slide that in naturally, much less ask her out after that	/r/seduction	07/09/24 06:50 PM
2	Attraction Killers Explaining why I like her seems kinda counterintuitive from what I've seen here... isn't everything supposed to be ambiguous? Also I was coming from the idea that it's not a girl I just met but rather one that I've gotten familiar with, almost friends but not really, since the friend going to more than can only happen if she likes you from the jump, from what I've heard.	/r/seduction	07/09/24 06:28 PM
2	Attraction Killers Oh, so "entering her world" is just a weird way of saying being too passive? I can’t explain it better. I think I get it, thanks man. Sucks though cause I just naturally have a soft voice, something I got from my dad (but he definitely never had problems with his voice) and I'm not much of a talker. But basically just skip over all the unnecessary shit and get to the point, right?	/r/seduction	07/09/24 06:24 PM
3	Attraction Killers Oh, k. Don't get why I got downvoted like that for a simple question, I wasn't acting dumb or anything. I get the general concept I think, and it seems easy in my head, but if I know for a fact that if it's a girl I have genuine interest in, it becomes that much harder, It's hard to hide or disguise my interest, or simply throw it away. Then again, maybe I don't get it as well as I think I do. I mean, how are you even supposed to get that vibe across, if you genuinely have interest but want to g…	/r/seduction	07/09/24 06:13 PM
2	Attraction Killers So basically, act like you don't like her if you really do, until she's desperate?	/r/seduction	07/09/24 05:46 PM
3	Attraction Killers Trying to enter her world So things like picking up/letting her introduce you to hobbies and such? Like going running with her in the mornings if she's that type, or getting into the same kind of genres she's into? broken body language, talking like a nerd etc Could you give an example of broken body language? All I can imagine is fidgeting or avoiding eye contact. And what do you mean by talking like a nerd? Using certain words...?	/r/seduction	07/09/24 05:44 PM
7	Why do women say: "The bar is so low for men" yet to get any results from cold approach as an avg guy, the interaction has to be exceptional basically. And even then nothing is guaranteed All 30+ had boyfriends? That seems... sus.	/r/seduction	19/08/24 01:54 PM
1	Self Esteem It’s amazing what success does to your self esteem. It’s a bootstrapping problem, and you have to take any tiny success you can take That's what my dad told me, but I find I have a hard time doing that, as if life will take it away if I feel too good about it, if that makes sense. But I'm recently getting the nerve to throw myself into working out again, so that will at least be one thing, right?	/r/seduction	10/08/24 12:46 PM
2	Self Esteem Thanks for this, and for you other comment. Although I can't really digest or internally agree with it right now, I know that what you're saying is true, (the last part of your other comment) even if I don't believe it.	/r/seduction	10/08/24 12:42 PM
1	Self Esteem Ok, thanks I'll try that and ask them	/r/seduction	10/08/24 01:40 AM
0	Self Esteem The app isn't available in my country Japan, thanks though	/r/seduction	09/08/24 06:55 PM
1	Self Esteem /u/ralphmalph1882 /u/Western-Month-3877 /u/newrisingsun70 How would I get started on therapy for stuff like this? I hear it's fundamentally more effective for women because it's more tailored to their psychology and that for us guys we can be easily misinterpreted or something like that... So what kind should I try looking up? Is it in person only, or can it be online? I don't have the money for anything long term, but I can throw out like $300 to see if anything works. I really don't think it w…	/r/seduction	09/08/24 06:43 PM
2	how to pass this shit test? "Nothing that makes me not charming!" And change the subject before she can think about it too hard. I don't even really know what it means when I came up with it, it just sounds good Just think about Jack Sparrow literally any time he opens his mouth, don't think too hard and say things you think are fun/funny	/r/seduction	10/07/24 08:59 AM
4	Whats holding you back from getting a Girlfriend? 1) Finding single women 2) Finding interested single women 3) Finding interested single women I like particularly Only made it to step 1 so far	/r/seduction	30/06/24 10:28 AM
11	We all know a couple with average looking and hot girl. FPS VC Lobby I guess?	/r/seduction	12/06/24 01:38 AM
1	Is it inherently wrong to change yourself? Thanks everyone for the good advice, to clarify for quite a few comments I didn't mean simply naturally developing or improving oneself, but enough gave me something to think about. Thanks again.	/r/seduction	07/06/24 03:03 PM
6	The most effective and easy way to seduce women Maybe you could make a post or link one for guys with the opposite problem? I listen just fine, but I don't talk enough. Or at least don't bring out my personality much, or be charismatic.	/r/seduction	30/01/24 03:14 AM