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CMVakaean/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 01:54 PM
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Here is what I'll say, when I was younger I used to go to a lot of concerts from smaller bands. I was at a punk rock show, and I got bumped hard while jumping in the moshpit and my glasses flew off. The moshpit of thrashing punks around me impromptu stopped, formed a perimeter, and helped me find my glasses before they were broken. A year or so later, I went to a hipster indie show (Islands), and the audience was full of super suburban trenders. One of the people up front threw a punch and start…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:03 PM
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We've all been burdened with societal expectations and ideals based on little more than gender. I don't particularly like it, but I do try to recognize them and acknowledge them when I see them, so that I can grow as a person and move past them as best as I can. ​ when I was born, they looked at me and said, "What a good boy, what a smart boy, what a strong boy" and when you were born, they looked at you and said, "What a good girl, what a smart girl, what a pretty girl" We've got these chains, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:26 PM
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sort of, i would argue that a fantasy about violence isn't necessary reflective of an actual desire to do violence. Most men I've met, most being the operative word here. Are gentle as a fly in real life, but the fantasy of violence, such as what is accessible through video games or movies or tv shows, may still be present. I mean who doesn't enjoy a violent movie from time to time. The idea is that the fantasy of violence taps into a subconscious and emotional desire for power and strength and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:07 PM
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you did slip in that key distinction word in there though "fantasize" And the distinction between fantasy and what we actually want in practice are often very different, for both men and women, and that is okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:50 PM
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I'm glad you brought up that example, because it is a good one. Men don't desire war, and the actual impact of war on men is often incredible amounts of trauma and PTSD. In practice war is awful and it more often than not breaks the men who are deployed on the field. But what is fair to say is that many men have subconscious desires to feel "honor" and the romantic ideal of fighting against impossible odds for something you believe in. Video games offer a controlled indulgence into those fantasi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:41 PM
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Contrapoints released a really good video on Twilight that explores these topics. I bring this up, because it mainly focuses on the differences between fantasy and reality, and what people fantasize about vs what people actually want in their real lives. These are two distinct things, and often there isn't as much carry over as you might expect. Essentially, one of her arguments is that fantasy represents a controlled indulgence into emotional facets that are often connected to social expectatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:25 PM
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Yes, I never set such a goal. So why are you here? I provided a video analysis critiquing a video that asserted that men have a natural right to rule over women due to being "builders". And you come in here "debating me". This is why you should probably watch the source material before debating people who are talking about said source material, because you just look silly and foolish defending a video that you apparently disagree with. Just admit that you agree with me that the Hoe Math video is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:26 PM
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Physical strength alone isn't directly relevant to being a builder or a nurturer. Unless you also believe that gorrilas as "better builders" than "men" and thus men ought to be subservient, obedient, and loyal to gorillas. That is ridiculous (and the plot to Planet of the Apes). Moreover, if "physical strength" alone is what mattered, you would also reach foolish conclusions like placing someone like Stephen Hawking at the bottom of any hierarchy. Your citation does nothing to "prove" a natural …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:50 PM
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Thank you! Passion is what makes beautiful and worth living. Make sure to always hold onto yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 09:09 PM
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Lucifer is the Adversary. He rebelled against God and he waged / wages war on the Kingdom of Heaven. When I look around me, I see the evil, hatred, and bigotry inflicted on the world by Christianity and Christians (and other organized religions). So, I oppose and fight against the insidious creeping of religion into our governments and personal lives. Surely, even you, can see the parallel here? Lucifer represents my own stand against the evil religion of subjugation that is Christianity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 08:21 PM
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okay so lets do a video analysis. we show a short clip of a Korean teenager's social media post. a grown man giving a presentation on what looks like a poster that was made by an elementary school dropout regarding a hierarchy that was pulled out of his ass. His whole basic premise is that women need "structure, rules, resources, approval, attention and validation" and to get those things, they must be, "obedient, loyal, and respecful" to men who provide those things. This is stupid, and here is…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 06:58 PM
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What, you mean TRP has an internally inconsistent worldview?? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 02:30 PM
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Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 12:58 PM
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Some people just get really homesick too. All the money and support in the world won't make you happy... if what you really want is just to go home.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 12:50 PM
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I read in a very reputable scientific journal and totally not on watpad, that male homosapiens determine their SMV by frotting with each other to establish a sexual hierarchy. By rubbing their erections together and taking in eachother's musk, it allows the males to measure and compare their virility against each other to determine which of them has the right to approach a nearby female. Just in case anyone is wondering what actually happens in the men's locker room.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 04:17 PM
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Dude, love isn't a spreadsheet. Have you ever had to break up with someone who was perfect on paper and all of your friends and family wanted you to stay together? I have. My guy friends have. It fucking sucks, but you have to do it anyway because it's the right thing to do, and it is better to get it over with sooner than later- I.E. before you get married. You'll learn this lesson eventually, but you can't just solve every relationship problem by becoming "hotter" or more "alpha". That just is…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 04:09 PM
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As someone in their Mid 30s, I would say its not so much that you "become mentally stronger by being verbally abused," as much as its, "you become mentally stronger when you decide to stop taking shit from people and you stop letting them verbally abuse you." Because people never actually grow up, most workplaces are more similar to school yards than any of us are comfortable admitting. You have to stand up to bullies at the office the same way you had to stand up to bullies at school. By not ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:37 PM
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oh honey.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:48 PM
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It's amazing that you would put more faith in a youtuber's 12 minute video than the consensus of professional climate scientists. Look, I like youtube as much as the next girl, but you need to use a grain of salt. I'm sorry, but something as complicated as climate science is going to require more than 12 minutes to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:42 PM
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I think it would be a fun fiction prompt to write a society where the females of a species impregnate the males with an ovipositor and once the egg is laid inside the male, the sperm fertilizes it and they carry it to term. okay, that's enough internet for everyone, we are done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:30 PM
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I love trash talking in chess. I'm terrible but I really like making up vaguely russian sounding names. Ah ha! I see you've fallen for Zhukov's Double Cross
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:55 AM
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Men can also be kind of full of shit, tbh. Disco Elysium and Fire Emblem Three Houses most recently, and ones with great art and a lot of atmosphere, like “Gris” or “Night in the Woods”). He laughed and said “so girl games” None of those these are "girl games" and people who like indie games are not just exclusively girls. In fact all of the games you listed are quite good and have broad audiences. Men have a tendency to get into crazy purity spirals with each other though, and many men somehow …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:08 PM
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uh... I hate to break it to you https://www.researchgate.net/publication/270540863_Gender_and_Responses_to_Disfigurement_in_Self_and_Others There were men and women involved in that experiment, and they both reacted overwhelmingly the same. The relative absence of gender differences in responses to facial disfigurement in self and others is discussed. So men aren't any more rational than women in this regard, making a comparison to feminism pretty weak. Moreover, if we look at the methodology of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 01:49 PM
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It's easy to win when you define winning as "technically not losing"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 01:33 PM
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how they engaged with the waiter Low key, this is one of the reasons why dinner dates are so effective for vetting someone. Everyone puts on airs when they are trying to impress someone they want to sleep with. But waitstaff is so unassuming and seemingly tangential, the daters typically aren't focused on them, and a lot of times how people really are bleeds through with how they interact with the waitstaff. Like if a guy is a dick to the waiter or waitress, that is a massive red flag, because i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:41 PM
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It is a really good game, Mae is an absolute mess, but she can be incredibly relatable. It can get really heavy though, as Mae struggles a lot with mental health issues and she has a very self-destructive personality. Its the kind of game that will make you feel something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:53 PM
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That is Mae from Night in the Woods.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:43 PM
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I'm just over here like: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:23 PM
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Yes, and we are still fighting about that with conservatives who defend child marriage Missouri Republican Senator Mike Moon defends 12 year olds getting married on the senate floor. https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/missouri-lawmaker-defends-12-year-olds-getting-married/ West Virginia Republicans block a child marriage ban https://apnews.com/article/child-marriage-west-virginia-bill-defeated-4d822a23b5ffd70f5370a36cc914cfb0 Republican Governor Chris Christie vetoes a law banning child marriage …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:15 PM
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Feminism is teaching women to take responsibility for their whole ass lives, and always has been. All the way back to its earliest days where it emphasized helping women break into careers and work to earn their own financial independence, and the right to vote in elections to help determine the fate of nations. There is more to life than "submitting to your husband," and feminism empowers women to make those choices for themselves. Including "taking responsibility for their poor decisions choos…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:08 PM
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These are all mine! I painted them myself <3 ​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 02:34 AM
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In my experiences, I haven't noticed that Christian men are any different from any other type of man, realistically they just virtue signal more... like at the end of the day, they don't cheat any less, they hold different codes of values to women then men... and they still do incredibly fucked up stuff. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/liberty-university-fined-record-14-million-under-federal-crime-reporting-law-2024-03-05/ Despite how aggressively they posture... at the end of the day a devout …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:52 PM
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The duality of libertarians
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:49 PM
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Honestly, the daily chat thread is one of the best places to shit post on reddit. Don't get me wrong it still sucks... but I stand by my first sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:33 AM
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I mean, they are all salesmen. 100% of TRP has been a grift, and its always been a grift. Women have always been the pitch, and repackaged generic advice, sometimes lifted directly from a Dale Carnegie course, along with a helping of blaming and dehumanizing women to justify trying to manipulate and abuse them. Fuck, I mean back in 2007 or whatever, Mystery was out there selling courses telling people to go to clubs in sunglasses and a pink feather boa. Rolo Tomassi is selling the exact same pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 11:52 AM
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I painted with a broader brush. Conservatives are typically a coalition of corporate interest and religious fundamentalism. Both want a return to an older social order. Free market capitalists, aka libertarians, seek a return to feudalism. Conservative philosopher Hayek favorably compared capitalism to medieval lordship: "What may be attained by industrial or commercial success is still the nearest approach to medieval lordship possible to modern man." Both fundies and libertarians want an older…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 05:15 PM
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So actually there are three main categories, conservatives, liberals, and progressives. The US tends to not distinguish between liberals and progressives (which makes manufacturing hypocrisy easy because they believe very different things). Right leaning newsources in the US also tend to portray anything to the left of Goebbels as Communist, which also muddles the clarity of the discourse. Put simply, conservatives want to revert society to older social orders. The OG conservatives were Monarchi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 02:12 PM
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Well conservative ones do because they are the party of conspiracy theories and double talk. The truth is... reality has a liberal bias https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/04/24/most-democrats-who-are-looking-for-a-relationship-would-not-consider-dating-a-trump-voter/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:55 PM
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I take politics very seriously. My point is conservatism is unattractive. I thought this sub was supposed to be apolitical and focused on attraction? Seriously. Move to the left, become more attractive to more women. You at least recognize that your political beliefs are fundamentally unattractive and that by holding them you are shooting yourself in the foot. You are free to believe what you will, as long as you accept you are making yourself less attractive. But conservative men are not justif…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:02 PM
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Or like, just don't have political beliefs you need to falsify. All it does is add yet another point of failure for men. Eat the rich and eat ass Fuck the police and fuck all the girls A conservative man is ultimately one who willingly shoots himself in the foot and makes it harder to find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:35 AM
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Yea it's like men kind of know that most women find conservative beliefs disgusting. It's a great irony that grifters try to push men further right. Like seriously, the easiest thing you can do to become more attractive to more women is switch from right to left. Every step to the right you take, the less and less attractive most women find you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:28 AM
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The Soprano's subreddit is amazing. People have gotten Tony posting down to a science over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:49 PM
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This is a really good observation. I knew a woman who had been abused by her father, and struggled all her life with eating disorders. She was thin as a rail, but her body dysmorphia was so bad that she was absolutely convinced that she was the fattest person who ever existed. I haven't heard from her in like 6 years... I... honestly I really hope she is okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:36 PM
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This isn't really true. When I was younger I struggled a lot with depression and anxiety. I still do, but I have better coping skills now. I remember thinking that I was depressed because I was single, and that when I found a relationship I would be happy. Then I got into a really serious relationship and it was a good relationship too. Spoiler alert, I was still depressed. I just went from being single and depressed to being in a relationship and depressed. I'm in a much better place now, and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:03 PM
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The stark difference between the charts. Just seeing them side by side like that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 10:56 PM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 10:52 PM
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Here, on Reddit? On PPD? Who the fuck knows. But Josh Strife Hayes can get it. I'm pretty sure the advice he gives would broadly be considered "blue pill"- doubly so in that he openly criticizes red pill ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:45 PM
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So i mean, you already admit that Reddit's ad-algorithm sucks. Which is fair. But its also not an indication that it will be improved. Reddit also suffers from poor central moderation, which I think hurts their ability to get good clients to pay for add space. Its pretty risky to invest in a poorly run company don't you think? Regarding moderation, A lot of subreddits still suffer from pretty rampant racism, misogyny, homophobia, etc etc etc. Not many companies are comfortable having their produ…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:17 PM
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Reddit is a pretty risky investment. It is a tech social media company, which often have difficulty monetizing. Look at what happened to Elon after buying Twitter. Twitter itself was barely profitable despite its massive popularity, then the muskrat turned up and fired all the moderators, broke the blue checkmark system, and paid way more than it was worth for the project. "X" is on life support, and because of Elon's choices trying to monetize it more has suffered a mass exodus of users. Reddit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:02 PM
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You sound like the kind of guy who thinks, men just "have" skidmarks, because it is "gay" to touch your own ass so you cannot wipe. Just get over yourself and help do the fucking laundry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:15 PM
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Just out of curiosity, why do you use "bro" so much... Like seriously, you sound like the kind of person who wears two pastel polo shirts so he can "double-pop" the collars at a Dave Matthews Band concert
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:06 PM
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Hello darkness my old friend, I've come to talk to you again
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:44 PM
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Imagine getting this upset about someone posting a joke on Twitter. She is obviously not being serious and if you can't figure that out from her post there is something wrong with you. Sometimes I think men here were tragically born without a sense of humor and would not recognize a joke if it hit them over the head with a hammer and took their kidneys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:43 PM
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No. It's still cruel. Men are just expected to "suck it up buttercup" because society tells them that their feelings don't matter and that having feelings at all makes them less of a man. It's all incredibly fucked up, but it doesn't change the fact that it's still cruel to call men fat. I've known men with eating disorders. Just because men are expected to "take it like a man" doesn't mean it should be open season to be cruel to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:36 PM
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I'm sorry, but I've been on the internet too long to take you seriously. We both know that people have no qualms calling women fat. Intentional cruelty is part and parcel to this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:27 PM
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It's all just words and synonyms. You want to call yourself a "plus sized man?" Knock yourself out- we'll know what you are talking about. You want to call yourself a "petite man?" Knock yourself out- we'll know what you are talking about. There is nothing "gendered" about "fat" or "plus-sized" or "short" or "petite". Use whatever words you like to describe yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:08 PM
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this sounds like a skill issue tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:02 PM
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"And who are you?" the proud Lord said, "that I must bow so low? Only a cat, of a different coat, that's all the truth I know. In a coat of gold or a coat of red, a lion still has claws. Mine are long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours." *** And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that Lord of Castamere, but now the rains weep over his halls, and not a soul to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:52 PM
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This is also probably a good time to point out that the average woman takes better care of herself and cares more about style and personal hygiene than the average man. So it makes sense that the half of the population that cares more about appearance has a higher overall appearance than the other half.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:18 PM
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When I was born, they looked at me and said, "What a good boy, what a smart boy, what a strong boy." And when you were born, They looked at you and said, "What a good girl, what a smart girl, what a pretty girl." ... We've got these chains, hanging round our necks. People want to strangle us with them, before we take our first breath. Afraid of change, afraid of staying the same, when temptation calls... we just look away. - Barenaked Ladies on gender
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:16 PM
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Bruv, you thought "Its Over 9000" was from Fresh and Fit. lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:27 PM
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It is not real. You shouldn't base your entire identity around bad wolf science that the original author has since disavowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:24 PM
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I feel like to you, every thing humans do for enjoyment is "for losers" Do like... actually enjoy anything... or do you just jerk off an idealistic charicature of masculinity until it jizzes all over you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:16 PM
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What are your thoughts on the current hot debate in male roleplay? The "Alpha male" vs "Sigma male" turf war?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:08 PM
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I think we should maybe default to compassion for the murdered teenager and their family.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:46 PM
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It is easy to manufacture hypocrisy when you claim two very different people with different ideals are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:41 PM
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or you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:38 PM
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This happened to me a lot in college an law school, but it has been a really long time since I've ever dream-scaped there. There were always three distinct locations, and I could travel between them via train or car. The first was a small college town it had one really long road, and there was a burger joint at the end of it, on the other side was steep hill with a downtown area, a few nicer restaurants and a theater. There was a high-speed train, which dropped off at some weird complex with a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:34 PM
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I joined an adult tennis club a few years ago. I had just hit 2 really good shots, and one near miss into the top of the net. The guy behind me looks at me, and says, "wow, I can tell that you used to be really good" I don't think I'll ever recover from that backhanded compliment lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:48 PM
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H. Jon Benjamin
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:43 PM
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Well if you wanted honesty, thats all you had to say. I never want to let you down, or have you go, its better off this way. For all the dirty looks, the photographs your BOYFRIEND TOOK, REMEMBER WHEN YOU BROKE YOUR FOOT, FOR JUMPING OUT THE SECOND FLOOR? I'M NOOOOOT OOOOKAY I'M NOT OKAY WELL I'M NOT O FUCKING KAY
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:16 PM
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My first ascention in Nethack was an Orc Ranger! Nethack is really easy if you know what you are doing :). I've seen more dungeons than Torquemada! I've killed more explorers than malaria! I've kicked in more doors than the LAPD and I've opened more chests than a M*A*S*H unit! Crom help me, I have ascended a Tourist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:41 PM
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DCSS: Arguably the quintessential roguelike, against which all other roguelikes are measured against. Open-sourced, continuously updated, unbelievable depth. I love it so much. https://crawl.develz.org/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:36 PM
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I did! It kind of reminded me a little bit of Hyper Light Drifter! I will admit though that I am an old blood, and my favorite game of all time is Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup- played in ASCII.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:30 PM
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No... I have the twitch reflexes of a dead parrot. I need to stick to my turn-based strategy games and roguelikes...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:26 PM
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I mean, you are aware that you can play your game after bowling league, or you can play your game tomorrow, or over the weekend. It is not going to go away. I mean, unless you are trying for a world first or something- like a Destiny raid- there isn't really a point in rushing patch day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:24 PM
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makes me want to slide the pointy edge of a piece of paper across it woah, calm down, Satan!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:41 PM
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there is no such thing as "genuine" lovebombing... lovebombing IS a manipulation tactic...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:39 PM
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How do I get a boyfriend that looks like Johnny Silverhand?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:52 PM
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Blue Pill isn't a positive ideology. Any beliefs you associate with TBP (that is not a criticism of TRP) is a strawman, or reflective of only a single individual's beliefs. Blue Pill =/= Normies. And even among Normies, their view on dating varies drastically depending on the country, religion, and culture they were brought up in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:47 PM
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you're right, it is a really simple and shallow concept. ANY criticism of TRP is TBP. easy peasy lemon squeezy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:43 PM
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what you have just described is a fundamental rejection of TRP tenants. As such, what you have just described is a blue pill position, because it is a critique of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:55 PM
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I get flagged by auto mod every time too, I think its because we don't have the word "blue" in our flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:49 PM
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Blue Pill is a negative position and Red Pill is a positive. What this means, is that Red Pill posits a variety of theories on how the world works. People who disagree with those theories are Blue Pill. Similar to a college thesis, you can think of the Red Pill as a thesis defense. The Red Pill has an obligation to prove their thesis, and they need to withstand questioning and critique by their professors, in this case the Blue Pill). Just like how you cannot defend a thesis by attacking the pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:25 PM
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all black pillers are blue pilled. Not all blue pillers are black pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:51 PM
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Pawn his stuff to make bail.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:42 PM
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Here is a life hack! Just go to school somewhere more traumatizing! Problem solved. See, I hated highschool, but then I went to law school, which was so much more stressful and basically ruined my life, and set me down a career path that is destroying my sanity and my soul. Now I get recurring anxiety dreams about law school instead of highschool. YAY
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:38 PM
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So, like, its really just horoscopes for men. Alpha, Sigma, Beta... etc... Its all based on an outdated wolf study, that the original author has actually disavowed. Its basically pseudo science and people make up what the difference between alpha, beta, sigma and omega actually are pretty frequently. No two "sigma" or "alpha" channels have the same definition of what those words mean. The only thing that makes someone a "chad" to an incel, is being successful with women, or being popular, or som…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:25 PM
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Eh, TRP is by and large a cultural extension of what we would normally see as "Trad" Generally speaking, they share the majority of their world view with each other, and by and large they only diverge on how we should approach that worldview. Both TRP and Tradcons belive that an ideal world is one that mirrors the Tradcon lifestyle. I.E. Women should subservient to men, women should be inexperienced and ideally virgins, and women should stay at home and have lots of babies while being completely…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:57 PM
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The default world view is culturally determined. Depending on where you were born, where you grew up, and what the attitudes of the community you grew up in are all going to play a part in your world view. A lot of more religious countries and communities, for instance, are going to have a very conservative traditional gender roles view on how the world should be. On the other hand, someone born in a big city like New York, London, or Paris, is going to have far more progressive views about men …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:46 PM
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I remember reading about "Sinfest" a while ago. Honestly, it is kind of a wild ride, from a slice-of-life comic with jokes -> to removing all of the jokes and pulling hard into feminism -> to sliding all the way into Q adjacent far right brain worm anti-trans anti-vax comics (also without jokes). Its enough to make anyone's head spin. Honestly, I really miss Wasted Talent, just a cute slice of life webcomic about an engineer... Angela Melick is a goddamn treasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:29 PM
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It is about empathy, the issue is that the conservative party platform is a rejection of compassion and empathy for others. There are groups fighting to protect their rights, and they are very different from the groups fighting to take those rights away. Not all men are sociopathic conservative clowns. And I've met good men who possess a strong heart and the ability to empathize with other people... and they will happily stand arm in arm with myself and others against the regressive right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:17 PM
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You aren't really selling me on this whole "men must grow up to date" as you go on about "dickmatizing" people. Seriously, sometimes I think men don't even like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:48 PM
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Have you considered that she just isn't that interested in you? Or that she maybe has other things going on in her life that don't involve immediately texting thirsty men back? I'm sorry, but if we are talking about "immature" or "childlike" behaviors... throwing a fit online because a woman didn't respond to your text is certainly... up there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:43 PM
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oh my god yes we can empathize with men. I didn't list them because I didn't include them in my list of examples of civil rights causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:17 PM
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Its about empathy. Feminism is a political activist movement that is dedicated to advancing women's rights. You can think about it like other politcal activist movements that are dedicated to advancing the rights of other groups- this can include things like groups advocating for racial equality, or lgbtq+ acceptance. You don't have to be a woman to support feminism. You don't have to be gay to support LGBTQ+ rights. You don't have to be black to support black rights. It is an error to hold femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:50 PM
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So like, it is not really any different than the common phrase "men are like children" As an attorney, I can tell you that most of the people I represent are "like children"... and yes, that includes both men and women. Adults are petty, easily offended, and make irrational emotional decisions all the fucking time. The problem with "women are like children" is the phrase has a silent implication that "and men are not". In my experience, women on average tend to be more emotionally mature than me…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:40 PM
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Lmao, you want to hang out in skinny jeans and dark eyeshadow and flip our hair at boomers?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 11:48 PM
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I think you misspelled "capitalism"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:52 PM
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Low key? It's actually Watsky Super under appreciated...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:41 PM
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It's not, the battles feminists fight just depend on the environment. The objectives and goals of feminists somewhere like the US is defending abortion rights. The objectives and goals of a feminist in Iran https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narges_Mohammadi are more focused on civil disobedience and resisting the hyper patriarchal society. Feminism is important everywhere, and feminists should support eachother everywhere- especially to those women fighting for rights in the third world. Feminism …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:33 PM
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I would literally rather listen to nothing but mid 2000s emo music for the rest of my life than fuck a tradcon. "When i was, a young boy, my father, took me into the city, to see a marching band... he said son when, you grow up, would you be the savior of the broken, the beaten and the damned..."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 06:33 PM
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"When you are accustomed to privledge, equality feels like oppression"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:56 PM
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Have you considered wiping better
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:56 PM
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don't forget your crew socks and wolf shirt!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:03 PM
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I'm just going to go ahead and leave this here. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:59 PM
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we are humans... its kind of what we do. To quote uh... Rocky 2006... "its not about how hard you can hit, its about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forwards"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:50 PM
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By and large, we are all playing prisoner's dilemma repeated game, there isn't really a better system sadly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma#The_iterated_prisoner's_dilemma Basically the idea is that you cooperate and trust your partner until they betray you, and this is the best startegy assuming they are always trusting and cooperating. But if your partner betrays that trust and cheats on you, the game is off and you should always switch. Essentially you trust your partner f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:35 PM
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What is important, is that we are able to look inward and challenge our own deisres and ask ourselves, why is this thing important to me? Sometimes, when we look critically at our own beliefs and ideals, we can realize that we hold preferences that we don't philosophically agree with. I'm not going to sit here and tell you what you can and can't prefer. But I am going to sit here and tell you that it is still important to look inward and ask yourself why you hold certain preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:26 PM
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This idea that civilizations decline because of some lack of moral virtue is kind of a fascist propaganda point used to make people afraid to think critically about religion. If you actually look at Roman history, you can find Roman scholars complaining about a decline in moral values in Rome before AGUSTUS. Let alone the fact that the Roman Empire is one that lasted for thousands and thousands of years... all the way until 1453 when the last Roman Emporer Constantine XI died defending Constanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:11 PM
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I mean to be fair to Americans, there are some really interesting american cultural things once you really get into it. Take Minnesota for example, it for some reason has a HUGE Norwegian populaiton, and as such has imported a lot of Norwegian cultural legacy into Minnesotan culture... except... like Minnesotans keep doing things that actual people from Norway stopped doing. Like fucking Lutefisk. Its nasty. First, you dry out the fish, then you soak it in LYE, then you REHYDRATE IT... basically…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:59 PM
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Tom Cardy is an icon <image> He usually rocks one earring, and often has his nails painted in his music videos. Men can definitely rock that aesthetic. Honestly, it has that whole punk-rock-fuck-your-gender-norms vibe to it. The secret, I think, is just not giving a fuck what small-minded people think. Besides, it IS a lot more satisfying to flip the bird with your middle finger nail painted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:46 PM
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I loved the bit from Over the Garden Wall, where Wirt has crippling social anxiety about how everyone around him is going to react, and then literally every time he interacts with his fellow students they are just like "oh, hey Wirt". Maybe Wirt was just a Chad idk, he did rock that makeshift gnome costume pretty hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:28 PM
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Just to really emphasize that TBP is literally just anything that falls outside the specific purview of TRP... here is an excellent piece of dating media that is very much TBP. Tom Cardy- Mixed Messages
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:40 PM
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"Personality: She’s a nice person. Has pretty normal interests (likes watching friends)." M8, are you trapped in the 90s? I think your pager is going off.... you want to catch a Gin Blossoms concert later? Would you rather date Elaine or Rachel?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:23 PM
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Sort of, we have to be careful to not conflate two definitions together. One definition of Equality is: Deserving of the same basic inalienable rights- free speech, free association, bodily autonimy, respect. This is a different definition than the one used in sports, "Bob is my equal in chess." That means Bob and I are evenly matched in that game. But like, I think we would agree that irregardless of whether I am superior to Bob or not, we are or at least should be equal in terms of rights disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:46 PM
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Yes, but also no. It is John Candy, but that clip is from Uncle Buck, I'm pretty sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:08 PM
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Pokemon Red and Blue
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:42 PM
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The hardest lesson I ever learned in my life was that the less of a fuck I give about what other people think about me, the happier I am. Honestly, you might have fewer friends, but the friends you have will legitimately like you and not for some empty facade or character that you play. Don't ever feel pressured to do something you aren't comfortable doing, and any "friends" who try to do that aren't real friends. Finally, if a man ever sends you an unsolicited dick pick, go on google and send a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:32 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:53 PM
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Here is the thing. When you are debating with people who actually identify with TBP. You aren't debating against mainstream society. You are debating against an individual person who believes TRP is ineffectual, toxic, and dangerous. It is not generally to my interest to take what "society generally demonizes" at face value. So I take it with a grain of salt. Anyways, men aren't even demonized for libido. The men who are demonized are the ones who lack restraint and force themselves on or coerce…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:16 AM
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Because men being hornier than women doesn't have anything to do with anything. Much less the root of disagreement between sides here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:59 AM
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It's not about the sex drives or the libido. It's about treating other sentient beings with dignity and respect. It does not matter how horny or not horny someone is, they have a right to have their choices respected. The problem with TRP, is that it dehumanizes women, seeks to invalidate their choices, and encourages manipulation. That is why its toxic- and... you know, doesn't work either. Men aren't entitled to women's bodies. Women aren't entitled to men's bodies. Sex requires two consenting…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:50 AM
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“But I don’t want to go among mad people," Hannah remarked. "Oh, you can’t help that," said the Cat: "we’re all mad here on PPD. I’m mad. You’re mad." "How do you know I’m mad?" said Hannah. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn’t have come."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 08:52 PM
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fun fact, plain greek yogurt is an easy substitute for sour cream. Save some calories, and you probably won't even notice the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 08:50 PM
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you are technically correct, which is the best kind of correct. I should have said "there is a popular misconception that a vagina can get looser after having sex a lot"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 06:15 PM
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This thread is really creepy. Non-consensual *anything* is a violation of the bodily autonomy that all people, men and women, deserve as a fundamental right. I do think you would start to see a lot more vigilante tech like this: <image> So that there, fits *into* the vagina, and it just lives there. Inside of it, as you can see are *razorblades*, and you'll notice that they are pointed *inward* like a fishing hook. You put your dick in one of those, you are probably going to bleed out on the flo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:41 PM
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What is the multiplier for anal then oral in that order?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:41 PM
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You must be fun at parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:10 PM
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Goddammit it, okay ... we are doing this She is writing about the value of her virginity. She wrote "loose value" A vagina can get looser after having sex a lot. If it was intentional it was a clever play on words, but since she edited it... it was probably just a spelling error lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:40 PM
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Do people on TRP get jokes and word play?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:23 PM
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So, we need to make sure we aren't playing a shell game here. A lot of times when I debate with a conservative they like to play this game where I make a point, and then they subtly swap out the definition of what we are talking about to something else. Let me be clear, when TRP and Trad Cons are talking about "a decline", they are talking about a societal shift away from "judeo-christian values and gender roles." For both Tradcons and TRP, the ideal world is one in which women are subserviant b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:37 PM
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The reason that "enjoy the decline" isn't a viable strategy is because both TRP and Trad Cons are wrong on a fundamental level. They are mistaken about the decline in the first place. In terms of social expectations there isn't a decline. Gay rights are good, gay people have a right to exist and be seen just like anyone else. Their existence isn't inherently "degenerate". Women and girls have a right to make informed choices about their own bodies and them exercising those choices is not degener…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 11:37 AM
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Other Chadette: Uses MacOS and iOS I didn't realize that "Other Chadette" was so into the aggressive implementation of planned obsolescence, monopolized repairs, and complete lack of customizability. Seriously, I'm not defending Windows here, but Apple has become one of the most predatory tech companies in terms of business practices out there. Everything we hate about big tech companies, Apple is at the heart of it and the most egregious participant. It used to be that Apple had really good app…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:15 PM
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I would point out that its usually not the same people saying these things. I mean, the people who say "sex isn't a big deal" are not generally the people saying "sex is one of the greatest pleasures in life". Different people have different sex drives, and when asked about sex people tend to share information and opinions that they have about sex. Its a very subjective thing. I know people that just don't like it and don't want it, and I know people who are obsessed with it. They are going to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:46 PM
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Valentine's has always been a dumb Hallmark Holiday, no one should care about it. Seriously, most of my memories about Valentine's day are just awkward traumatizing moments from middle school. Goddamn corporations, making up holidays to sell cards and traumatize socially awkward kids. That said, there are usually some good deals on candy for the week or so after- so if you like boxes of chocolates, or little sugar pills with quirky messages on them... its not the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:40 PM
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Just because there are two sides to an issue, does not mean that both sides are equally valid. There is nothing inherently more correct about fence sitting or both sidesism. If women and men are already sold on their point of view (ick, men bad or wtf, women liars) who’s not to say their POV isn’t correct? You propose this statement, but does it really even reflect the positions held on this sub. First, I think its more accurate to segregate on this sub by flair than by gender. My opinions conce…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:32 PM
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I think the great cosmic irony will be after all of the screeching about how men are going to be replacing women with AI sex bots... Its really going to be women replacing men with AI sex bots. I mean god, can you imagine being in a relationship with someone who both listens to you and washes their penis. Holy shit. It's going to be revolutionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:19 PM
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You are aware that dead beadrooms can be caused by either person, right? There are dead bedrooms where the husband is uninterested in sex with the wife, just as there are dead bedrooms where the wife is uninterested in sex with the husband. You are also aware, I hope, that dead bedrooms can also be caused by trauma or medical issues as well? So... uh... to answer your question. Its not that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:18 PM
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The dating market isn't really what we should be worried about in 100 years. The bigger concerns for the world in 100 years is likely climate collapse, mass starvation, mass flooding, and mass immigration from coastal areas that are now uninhabitable. Drought and flooding are also bad for food production, which will exasperate concerns even more. We are going to come to an economic and civil rights crisis on a global scale that is going to challenge the very way we look at how our society is str…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:45 PM
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​ No apparently not, according to almost 40 years of living under western style capitalism. "I saw corps strip farmers of water ... and eventually of land. Saw them transform the [United States] into a machine fueled by people's crushed spirits, broken dreams, and emptied pockets. Corps've long controlled our lives, taken lots... and now they're after our souls! I've declared war not because capitalism's a thorn in my side or outta nostalgia for an America gone by. This war's a people's war agai…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:18 PM
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Look. The consequences for men being vulnerable don't come from women... it comes from other men. This is one of those toxic masculinity things where other men will punish a man showing vulnerability. When a man is broken, women will by and large show support and try to help. When a man is broken, other men will tell them to "walk it off" and "man up" at best. At worst other men will call them slurs referencing the lgbtq+ community. I wish men could be more vulnerable. But I understand that with…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:47 PM
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5% of oil rig workers are women 18% of the US army are women 21% of the US navy are women 24% of the US air force are women. to say women can't do these jobs is foolish. They can, and they do. Anyway, pointing to brutal career paths is not an argument for rigid gender roles and segregation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 09:23 PM
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As gender roles and expectations start to change, more women will take these jobs. Women are already capable of being soldiers and feminists have already fought hard to give women the right to enlist in militaries around the world. More than that, there ARE women who work on oil rigs. Useing a click bait tick toc of a singular woman reacting to a video of work on an oil rig is about as informative as going into a CPA firm and showing the video to a bunch of accountants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:34 PM
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I brought up emo boys because they haven't ever "been in a position" to defy social norms. Back in 2004, most emo boys weren't in bands, or famous, it was way more than just a couple of out of touch rock stars. It was a whole scene, and there were scene kids. Emo Boys, Goth Boys, Punks. There is a lot of overlap in these themes, and these guys have always been hot. I tell you what, ain't nobody fawned over or dated an emo boy in highschool because they wanted someone who was "dominant". Honestly…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:01 PM
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I think you generalize women too much. Women aren't so much attracted to this Conan type body that you reference. OTHER MEN ARE. Men who have openly rejected the mantle of masculinity have always had a rebellious, punk rock, fuck your gender norms aura about them that has always just been... well it is really hot okay. David Bowie, Kurt Cobain, BTS. I mean, when I was growing up in the 2000s, you know who was getting the cutest girls? It wasn't the jocks... no... it was emo guys- you know the ty…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:39 PM
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As far as I understand, TRP basically boils down to performative, essentially theatrical masculinity. The reason why it's so popular is because increasing numbers of men feel emasculated Honestly, gender itself is kind of a fucked up concept. It really is nothing more than s a mantle of societal expectations and insecurities foisted upon people at birth. What does it mean to be "manly". There is nothing biologically masculine about wearing pants versus a dress... and many "manly" cultures have o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:11 PM
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I agree with you, but I think the reason is because TRP has the most adversarial relationship with reality. TRP sells a formula for human understanding with a sales pitch of helping loney men score chicks. Its actual formula is deeply flawed, and someone throwing game with TRP theory will actually perform slightly worse than someone with no knowledge of "pills" whatsoever. Black Pill advocates for not even trying, so their own defeatist worldview confirms their defeatism. Blue Pill doesn't belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 02:26 PM
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Most people have an idealized version of themselves in their mind's eye. Self-improvement is taking steps to realize that vision. I'm not saying you should do self-improvement. Just that if you do, it should be done because you want to do it. My point is, I'm not here telling you that taking a shower will get you a date. It may help get a date, but there are no guarantees in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 01:45 PM
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Nope. Self-improvement is something that should be done for you, because you want to. Self-Improvement is something you do because you want to take steps to be the person you want to be. Can it help with finding a partner? of course. Is it guaranteed to "work"? of course not. But the one thing I can guarentee is that you won't see me ever praise some "manipulative redpill guy"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 01:32 PM
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Because "we live in a society" Fortunately, societal attitudes can be changed and improved. Queer acceptance has been improving, and as a result more and more queer people feel safe and secure enough to come out of the closet. There will always be backlash from conservatives who seek to propogate the status quo, but I hope that society will eventually a reach the point where people can love and be whoever they want without fear of stigma.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:32 PM
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Short answer is toxic masculinity and homophobia. In masculine spaces and cultures dominated by men, there is an unhealthy obsession with the concept of masculinity and heteronormativity. Masculinity = good, Femininity = bad. You can see this just by watching men insult each other. When men try to hurt other men, they call them "gay" or "a cuck" or essentially "insufficiently manly". As such, we can see the following harmful stereotypes in male dominated spaces: Gay men are seen as effeminate an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:00 PM
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I don't think more people are bisexual. Remember, Bisexuals are generally more straight passing than other queer people, because they can find a significant other in a straight relationship. I do think that the stigma surrounding same-sex relationships and couples has been steadily decreasing, so people who have always been bi are more willing to embrace it and explore the homo side as well as the hetero side. It is like the left-handed boom in the early 1900s. When children weren't beaten for w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:17 PM
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I'm not going to lie, I'm too worn out from being cynical about capitalism to have time to worry about what other people in my office are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:10 PM
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At its core, the idea of "frame" is a good idea. It is important to be who you are and to be firm and uncompromising in who you are. I do think people on TRP take it too far, and it shouldn't be used to be cold or emotionally unavailable. But the general idea is good because your partner should love you for who you are, not who they want you to be. A good pair, are two people who can maintain their individual identity and still love each other for those individual identities. My Blue Pill Opinio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 02:46 PM
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There is a lot of data available so we don't have to speculate on the numbers. https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/ndv0312.pdf Women are significantly more battered overall than men are. Its unfortunate, but it is true. Second, threat level is a very important societal distiction. We also see it in areas of self-defense. While this doesn't excuse women who are violent toward their significant other, we still need to take into consideration that failure to address man on woman physical abuse is m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:49 PM
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It is a question of practicality. Without trying to write a novel, what it comes down to is this Violent DV and Emotional DV are different problems, with physical abuse requiring more direct intervention and emotional abuse requiring a more holistic approach and generally access to mental health services. When it comes to violent abuse, men are predominately the perpetrators. Something like 95% of serious violence and 90% of all violence. Yes, women can be violent, yes there can be violence in g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:09 PM
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petty drama That is kind of the point though, isn't it. The drama- irregardless of who is causing it, is petty. So why are we letting it get in the way of something not petty, in this case citizenship?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:30 PM
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Uh, she didn't claim to be wonderful, just that she doesn't like clingy men... and she made some completely unsourced social dawrinist explanation based solely on availability heuristics to explain her theory. You TRP folks should be all about it, unsourced social darwinist speculation based solely on availability heuristics is like your JAM. ... or are you worried about the competition from another pseudo-scientist?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:27 PM
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I swear I read the title, and thought it said "shrimps" and not "simps" CMV: TRP turns men into shrimps!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:24 PM
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That is a strange take. In my experience in professional fields, weight isn't correleted with professional competency in any way. I've worked with overweight attornies who are workaholics and extremely competent... to the point I suspect that part of their weight issues comes down to being so focused on work that they don't take care of themselves personally. The other extreme is that I've worked with thin attornies who are complete nebbishes and pushovers. There isn't a correlation between weig…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:58 PM
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I have a lot of respect for radical feminism from a philosophical standpoint. Radfems ask a lot of important questions, and even if I don't agree with all of radfem's conclusions, the point of view and discussions brought up are extremely important to have. Specifically, I think it is a purer movement than the lib fem wing, in that it seeks to challenge and question the fundamental building blocks of society itself. Like, it's important that women do question why we want the things that we want …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:32 PM
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The pimp example isn't great, I don't think anyone has ever implied that pimps are a marganized group Moreover, every argument I've ever heard in favor of decriminalization of sex work is that regulation can protect the women in those spaces. I would hope that we agree that the lgbtq+ community is not an "oppressor group" so when we are talking about alliances between marginalized groups, such as with queer communities and organizations, that shouldn't really be a concern. Mermaids making a dona…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 10:26 PM
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Meanwhile, white people are generally expected to just understand that "Black Lives Matter" and "Stop Asian Hate" are not disparaging phrases to other races. I mean... have you seen Fox News coverage about BLM? They essentially try to portray them as a terrorist organization. Conservatism has been at war with LGBTQ+ rights, Black Rights, and Women's rights for as long as I can remember. We're all in this shit show together. What I've seen from politics in the United States, is that a mainstay of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:41 PM
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I don't think I've ever read any lib fem arguing that we should "prioritize the interests of everyone equally." Feminism is and always has been a practical movement and a very political movement. Most feminists I talk to are concerned about: bodily autonomy and abortion which is a major battleground in the United States currently. This is probably the issue with the highest stakes currently in play in the United States. establishing support systems for victims of domestic violence, and while yes…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 07:19 PM
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Actually, that is what we should be doing. The fact that we are trying to discuss feminism without even looking at feminist philosphy is... well it's embarrassing... honestly. It would be like trying to debate about Ultilitarianism without even knowing who Mills is. So TRP, who wants to debunk Judith Butler?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:22 PM
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Just like... I don't know... live your life and don't judge other people for living theirs. It's not so much about whether it's "empowering" or "liberating". It's about not placing value judgements on the choices someone makes. It is about rejecting traditional arbitrary purity tests. The idea that women lose "value" every time they sleep with someone is toxic, irrational, and dehumanizing. Whether a woman is a good person or worth knowing is something that is (or should be) wholly divorced from…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:17 PM
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you are aware that like... bi people exist right? It's okay to be attracted to both men and women. Nobody is "turning gay" to avoid dating you. The women who are dating women have always been attracted to women. They may also be attracted to men, and that is okay too. There is no conspiracy against "beta males". It's just people living their lives. Bi people exist, both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:02 PM
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yooooo, dude, like can you pass me that crack pipe. I need a hit, and whatever you are smoking looks dope af. "When you are accustomed to privilege, equality looks like oppression." Women are sentient rational beings, same as men. They should have the same fundamental and inalienable rights as any other sentient rational being. As a baseline, a woman existing in society should be treated as a man would be treated. Yes. That means equal pay Yes. That means having their needs met in a relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:02 PM
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you first have to completely ignore the fact that a ton of feminists have been trying to get men out of signing up for the draft, at least here in America. They are fighting for equality, just in the direction that is best for all, instead of making things equallly bad for everyone. I think its also worth pointing out that feminists fought hard to give women the opportunity to enlist in the military at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 06:48 PM
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I may be far from an expert, but, I will try to answer your questions as best I can. Running off the assumption that you are posting in good faith. Why can't they advocate for men too? In short, most feminists do advocate for men. The general idea is that concepts such as "toxic masculinity" and the "patriarchy" are issues that impact both men and women. Lets look at an example. When I see MRA's advocate in good faith, primarily the concept they circle around to time and time again is the idea o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:48 AM
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You win. Of course i do. I have supported my arguments and position with at least one study (sorry I was too lazy to find more, but its still better than the big fat 0 you provided). Your position is purely emotional, based entirely on "this sounds right", and actually is contradicted whenever anybody runs the numbers. You will never be able to win an argument with red pill talking points, because they are fundamentally illogical, and they don't stand up to scrutiny. I'm glad you are starting to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:06 PM
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I quoted from the study directly. I'll quote it again for you and bold important parts to help you with reading comprehension. For men, there aren’t statistically significant differences in marital quality between men who have two partners and more than two. That is the trend for women too, with two exceptions: female respondents with four partners or 6-10 partners have significantly lower odds of very happy marriages compared to those with two partners. It’s not clear why these two groups of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 04:55 PM
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NOTE: the "important" factors are generally what I am attracted to and drawn to. The "dealbreaker" factors are generally what I am repulsed by. Dealbreakers Compassion, kindness and empathy World awareness and conscience for social causes etc Aligning beliefs and views (political, religious, social) Integrity (sticks to their word and convictions) and consistency All three of these sort of go hand in hand, and a large part of it is about specifically weeding out conservatives. Whether we like it…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 03:34 PM
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A wise man once said, "ma'am, when you've killed four men, its easy to make it five."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 02:24 PM
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Great sample size. Look, I am sorry your friends are shitty people, I really am. But please don't make judgements about entire populations of people because you have crappy friends. Edit: seriously listen to yourself. I posted a study that showed in the greater population marital happiness is affected by prior sexual partners in a deminimis way at most and a rougly analogous impact between men and women.... and you come in with "not according to a few people I know personally". Red pill intellec…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 12:53 PM
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Uh, you are aware that this whole AF/BB thing is just absolute nonsense right? Its not the blue pill telling fairy tales... The truth is most people are just dating and marrying with their socio-economic class. (https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/29/new-academic-study-links-rising-income-inequality-to-assortive-mating/) Rich girls are dating and marrying rich boys. Poor girls are dating and marrying poor boys. Honestly, the greatest indicator of whether two people will get together is…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:52 PM
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​ A man should be objective and realistic when selecting a life partner; it's the most important decision he'll ever make. huh. I suppose you would also agree that a man shouldn't use unsupported pseudo science like evolutionary psychology when he chooses a life partner? Because it seems like that is exactly what you have done here. People should select their life partner based on compatability. https://ifstudies.org/blog/does-sexual-history-affect-marital-happiness For men, there aren’t statist…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:39 PM
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an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:35 PM
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People should not be judged by the number of sexual partners they have had. Value judgments based on promiscuity are all toxic, bad, and we should move past them. Women should not be judged or made fun of for having too many. Men should not be judged or made fun of for having too few or none. Someone's value as a person should be independent from the number of partners they have had.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:41 PM
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aight, let's rap about pregancy a bit. There are two main practical considerations when we are talking about pregnancy, which do a lot to explain why different sexes are treated differently by the situation. The existence of a baby The body carrying the pregnancy. Lets look at the first factor. When a baby is brought forth into this world, it costs a lot of $$$. It is expensive, and since I and most other people want to live in a civilized society that doesn't just let their citizens die from pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:34 PM
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You have to remember the folks on TRP are basically as smart as the bunnies in Watership Down. They can't actually count past four. Hrair: Any number greater than four. It is translated to thousand and, less commonly, five.... A great many; an uncountable number; any number above four. U Hrair=The Thousand (enemies). Q: How many sexual partners have you had? A: Hrair
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 03:40 PM
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"I'm going to do what is called a pro-gamer move"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 03:31 PM
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Well we're gonna police women's spaces, women's sports and any other aspect of women's whatever So, you aren't even going to address all of the incidents of where trying to police women's spaces causes harm to cisgendered women who happen to not meet an arbitrary beauty standard of femininity? The cold truth is that the policing you are talking about doesn't really impact passing trans women, as it impacts nonfeminine cis women. (https://time.com/4322953/north-carolina-mississippi-bathroom-bills…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:08 PM
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you are "gunna have a problem" because you are buying into propaganda and losing sight of what is important. demanding access to the bathroom Bathrooms are absolutely about respect. Its going to the bathroom and using a stall. What happens when you try to police bathrooms is that trans AND cis women get hurt. This asshole beat up an 86 year old cis woman because he thought she was trans (https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/05/23/woman-86-beaten-wheelie-bin-trans/) This cis woman was berated by anot…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:17 PM
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Lefty here! Let us talk about "wokeness". The entire idea of "performative wokeness" is an artificial construct created by the right win to discredit people showing basic respect. This is a toxic framing of the issue. You are implying that the only reason a man would be "woke" is to get laid... but that doesn't have anything to do with anything. If you are the type of person who "pretends" to be decent in order to get laid... then you are quite frankly... an asshole. Let me be crystal clear, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:42 PM
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This thread is a really good example of the cognitive dissonance and obstinant refusal to... hmmm... read the sidebar. So because you and most of the commenters obviously are morons, I'll go ahead and read your own sidebar for you. okaythanks. To BPers, "blue pill" is basically disagreeing with TRP, usually with it's stance on women, relationships, and/or science. Generally by agreeing with societies mainstream view of these matters (hence, the blue pill). There's no set philosophy or goal other…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:15 PM
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At the end of the day, proximity is the biggest indicator of whether two people will get into a relationship together. When you look at a trans woman or a bi man, they are significantly more likely to have more in common with cis women. They are more likely to be on the same page in terms of social and political issues like abortion, they are more likely to be less hung up on gendered stereotypes and thus more willing to participate in feminine activities like makeup or getting their nails did. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:34 PM
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The problem with your definition, is that it fails to take into account the reality of how terrorism is conducted today in places like the US. Times are changing, the age of organized terrorist groups is starting to wane in favor of a decentralized model where action is taken to make sure that more violence is committed towards your target demagraph via radicalization while maintaining plausible deniability for any individual terrorist act. This is a model based on radicalization, often online, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 01:07 PM
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I'll get up as many times as necessary. To quote the great philosopher and wordsmith Sylvester Stallone: "You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward." - some rocky movie, circa 2006
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 09:18 PM
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Look. From a philosophical standpoint. People are free to do whatever they want to do. And we are obligated to let them have that freedom so long as it does not harm others. Is my significant other free to cheat on me if he/she/they/whoever wants to? Yes. They have the freedom to choose to do that if they wish. What they don't have and can never have, is a right to continue to be with me if they make that choice. When you date someone. You voluntarily give up a portion of your freedom in order t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:07 PM
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And I already said it before, but munecat's video was laughable. I've seen stronger anti TRP rhetoric from impromptu reddit posts than that. What was laughable about it? Did she misrepresent anyone in her selected clips? She was commenting on things that were said by people in that space. Just because you didn't like her tone, doesn't mean she is wrong. In any event, what I oppose is hatred. I oppose rhetoric designed to other, alienate, and radicalize people against minority groups. In theory, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 01:27 PM
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Unfortunately, that is the realization that I have come to, and a large part of why I and I'm sure many others stopped posting here. Its a realization that can be seen as people have become more experienced in dealing with radicalization. Look at the evolution of Ian Danskin's opinion over the years from encouraging engagement to not engaging them on their terms in open debate. Let me explain. Many arguments on the internet are conducted in bad faith. Far right radicals and extremists (including…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 04:55 PM
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Look at this OP! Someone who leans into the red pill couldn't help but take the bait. Discussing and talking about left leaning Youtube spaces is a sure fire way to provoke people who aren't worth talking to into self identifying themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:12 PM
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Check out and show them Munecat's video on the manosphere, or Coffeezilla's video on Andrew Tate While Coffee isn't breadtube by any stretch of the word, he centers his channel on calling out scammers... so fake gurus like Tate are a natural target for him... Munecat is of course bread tube- in the same line as other great youtubers like Contrapoints or Hbomberguy. In general, if you are concerned that someone has or may have been radicalized by bullshit online, expose them to some of the counte…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 02:20 PM
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IMO the Magic Kingdom for Sale (Landover) series was a bit better than Sword of Shannara. It was still a bit cliché, but its more light hearted and fun which makes it somewhat refreshing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 06:03 PM
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This summer is going to be great if for no other reason than Solar Ash is scheduled to come out in the next few months. I am really excited to see if it holds a candle to Hyper Light Drifter!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 05:31 PM
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Minnesota calls to you. Get you some tater tot hot dish
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 04:23 PM
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Nothing beats the mouthfeel of a Detroit Style Coney Dog. You havent truely lived until you have wrapped your lips around that succulent shaft of sloppy beef.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:13 PM
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My rule of thumb, from back when Stud McMuffin akaean was on the market, was to never send more than two unanswered texts in a row. Its a pretty great rule because it allows for a balance between needlessly catastrophizing and giving up too early on someone who is interested in you, and coming off as overly needy or desperate on the other hand. The truth is, sometimes people get busy, and sometimes they put brand new people that they just met and don't have any obligations towards on the backbur…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 06:20 PM
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CITATION NEEDED Seriously. This entire post is a ridiculous stream of consciousness speculating about the nature of human psyche without a single reference to a medical journal or study or article or nothing. Everyone thinks that they are the smartest to ever smart when they are 18. But as Socrates once said, "The more I know, the more I realize I know nothing." I get that you are young, and that English isn't your first language. But speculating an entire philosophy of life based on 0 scientifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 06:12 PM
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So, I would first point out that Sanders has been very consistent with his messaging and the type of legislation he supports. I agree with his message and his personal wealth does not detract from that. With respect to his personal wealth, at the end of the day he is a United State Senator, and in terms of United States Senators he is among the least wealthy, https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/apr/15/bernie-sanders/bernie-sanders-says-hes-one-poorer-members-united-/. US Senators, some of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 07:02 PM
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you guys should be allowed to cry for reasons other than watching the movie Rudy Tears will be shed for Brian's Song as well. Don't you worry about that! On a more serious note though, I would point out that I think the real issue are the social stigmas placed on getting help / therapy. A lot of places, especially so on conservative or manosphere or alt right spaces strongly criticize mental health as a sign of weakness or as evidence of someone not being masculine. If someone is suicidal, and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 05:29 PM
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Thank you for posting this. I didn't notice this thread and its nice to get a bit of sanity in one of the higher ranked comments. One thing I would like to add to your post, is that the OP is typical alt right alienation and isolationism. Its designed to make people feel attacked and alone, so that they will be more inclined to accept extremist positions. Its literally alt right recruiting 101. Misrepresent the other side, prey on people's insecurities, then tell them that the only people on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 04:24 PM
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Haha I didnt downvote you. But looks like people agree that Once Upon a Time > The Good, the Bad and the Ugly ;). Or maybe it's the lack of Magnificent 7 or True Grit in the top 5? Or sleeper pick Hateful 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 02:49 PM
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I would point out two things. The United States has operated a volunteer military for 50+ years. Due to the way conflicts between major countries have evolved since the 1940s, it is unlikely that there will ever be a need for another draft outside of the United States falling or something. I've never met a feminist or "SJW" who is hypocritical about the draft. What I mean is, they oppose the draft in principal. They don't think anybody should be drafted, and this includes women, and also men. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 08:17 PM
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Here is the problem. You are selectively looking at the past through rose tinted glasses. Just like a tradcon. For example, you say a "less than 50% divorce rate" The low divorce rate was because divorce was heavily stigmatized, to the point where people felt forced to stay in toxic and abusive relationships. Spousal Rape wasn't made illegal in all 50 states until the 1990s. Physical abuse was something that was so normalized and so rampant, that it was the butt of a large number of jokes on one…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 05:59 PM
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But, in order to "enjoy the decline", you have to believe that there is in fact a decline happening. This necessitates the belief that things were better in the past, and that things are worse now and getting worse the further we get from that fetishized point in history. TRP is heavily influenced by tradcons (and the alt right), and the similarities are deeper philosophically than the shared language between them. "Enjoy the decline" has always been little more than a cope. I firmly believe tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 05:36 PM
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washed up ex-soldier who just wants to go live on my farm, but keep getting dragged into morally one-sided conflicts. Solid archetype there. Unforgiven is probably my second favorite Western of all time after Once Upon a Time in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 03:46 PM
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I would have way cooler shit to larp about tbh. My imaginative abilities are insulted. I mean, you aren't wrong. It is pretty cliche to talk about how you are "a total RP ladies man". But most people with RP flairs post completely unverifiable anecdotal stories about how wildly successful they are with women as some sort of hamfisted argument by implication for the RP. It is derivative and dumb, and nobody has exaggerated on the internet before, nosirrie. That said, I recon we could have a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 03:34 PM
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I think its the obvious LARPing that keeps me coming back to this cesspool of a sub. Its just such a train wreck and its hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 03:18 PM
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Wait you mean we arent going to change ppd into a theology debate sub? Thats no fun lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 09:57 PM
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But Sophia is an Aeon, which are symbolic abstractions of the divine nature. It would be like your hand scratching your butt "without your consent." Its still a part of you, and its still fair to say that you scratched your butt. God is a single mother. Clearly, feminism was right.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 09:43 PM
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If you want to get really jiggy with it, I always thought the Gnostics had the most interesting solutions. It kind of has some similarities to Hinduism / Buddhism which makes it even more interesting. Monad / Sophia: The all powerful essence of god, the one truth from which all things spawn... A part of the Monad is Sophia who is the mother of... the Demiurge: the arrogant false creator god, derives his power from Monad but is usually ignorant of any higher power than himself. Gnostics generally…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 09:24 PM
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Because the Greatest Generation would never do something like that. Oh wait. Well at least not the British? Oh. Stop having moral panic about everything. Western Civilization isn't about to collapse. Goddamn.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 11:40 AM
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And who appointed you the arbitor of masculinity? Is there a council who votes on criteria?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 11:11 AM
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Finally, I will be able to have the romantic relationship with Wheatley that I've always dreamed of.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 08:14 PM
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CMV: People who compare life and human interaction to video games have the maturity of a 14 year old and should be treated as thus. Seriously. I like video games. I play video games. Life is not a video game. Lets break it down. What are video games? Well video games are both entertainment and an art form. This means that in the broadest sense video games are meant to be experienced and they operate under created rules to make a player feel a certain way. Unlike life, video games are created wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 09:55 PM
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Hey man, we all need someone to talk to every now and then. Feel free to shoot me a dm if you need someone to talk to, even if its just about how much we miss Mischief Brew... because the genre just isnt the same without Erik.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 03:24 AM
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You can't forget about the normal human mating competition where prospective human males will compete for access to a breeding female by rubbing their phalluses together to determine which one is biggest and to intimidate the other male
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 12:57 PM
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I remembered wrong. I haven't been up to speed on Roosh's drama. He hasn't been formally charged as I recall, but he has openly supported pro rape positions. He has admitted to some really bad conduct. https://www.smh.com.au/national/return-of-kings-founder-daryush-roosh-valizadeh-admits-to-what-could-be-considered-rape-in-deleted-post-20160209-gmpuan.html
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 03:20 PM
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old enough to know who does and who doesn't get fucked up the ass. Its always really interesting to me that people use "cock sucker" or "fucked up the ass" to imply either someone who is bad, or an event is really bad. But like, if you step back from it for a second, its really weird. Like, I assume most men who say this like it when their dick gets sucked and I assume that they like anal sex. So when they say this, its almost as though they are implying that these are the worst things that coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 01:15 PM
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This 100%. You need to be very very careful when dealing with TRP, and especially products sold by Pick up Artists and TRP advice gurus. They are a hotbed for grifters and scammers. Rollo Tomassi is no exception. These people recognize that there is a demographic of sad lonely men out there who are desperate for human contact. So they pander to that demographic by telling them "its not your fault, its women's fault" which is something that they want to hear. Once they have hooked 'em, they fleec…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 12:58 PM
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raw assertions of individuals and misused availability heuristics as "evidence".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 06:12 PM
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Except the red pill doesn't work. There is no scientific proof that it works. I have never been pointed to anything other than raw assertions of individuals and misused availability heuristics as "evidence". The only people who believe that "the red pill works", are the same people who are inclined to believe Alex Jones or similar conspiracy theorists.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:20 PM
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Thank you for proving my point. Right. On. Queue. As I wrote, when you point out that the core "scientific" proofs that are put forward are baseless pop pseudoscience like the concept of "alpha and beta", people suddenly start telling you that TRP was never meant to be taken scientifically. I suppose I could have used the word "TRP concepts" were never meant to be taken scientifically, but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:15 PM
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Ultimately the moral question is inescapable, and TRP is nothing if not a hypocritical and inconsistent ideology that is little more than dressed up misogyny. TRP markets itself as being, like you say, "an unbiased neutral look at the evolved sexual strategies of women so men can better understand them." but when you point out that the core "scientific" proofs that are put forward are baseless pop pseudoscience like the concept of "alpha and beta", people suddenly start telling you that TRP was …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:45 PM
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[META] the responses to this post are... quite frankly they are disgusting. This is a verifiable event, the tweets happened, and were made by Rollo Tomassi and OP. Rollo Tomassi is unquestionably a huge influencer in the manosphere, and his words and actions have weight. So the uncontested facts here, are that a major Red Pill / Manosphere influencer, kicked off a harassment campaign to slut shame a female influencer for apparently no other reason than posting a list of her red flags and having …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:03 PM
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the ones who think feminism is trying to destroy western civilization and take away their video games? Yes, those ones are paranoid and insane
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:09 AM
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Ah yes, the 'no u' argument. I remember it well from second grade!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:45 AM
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Any discussion about feminism on this particular subreddit is doomed to fail. The problem here is that we are generally operating on two different definitions of feminism. The manosphere (including TRP), in general, has convinced itself that feminism is a boogey(wo)man made out of straw. To the manosphere, feminism is some nondescript entity that is anti man and out to get them and the things they like. Gamergate is a great example of this mindset, the paranoid insane belief that feminism is try…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 12:02 AM
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Yes. Yes. I always forget how emotionally damaging being asked to "stand up as a symbolic act" is. The horror. The worst part is all of this could have been avoided if instead it was worded as "a symbolic act of respect". Changing basically one word, and keeping the same message, and the outrage fizzles out. You are gaslighting really hard and deflecting as hard as you can. But you cannot escape that this is just a nothing burger. You are only so upset because you want somethign to be upset abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 03:40 PM
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But shit like this happens all over. The Red Pill basically follows the same philosophy the lead to the 2008 financial crisis. I shall call this the subprime bundle theory of misandry. Like the 2008! So you have subprime instances like this, that aren't really evidence of anything, and are too small to take into any larger context, and if you actually look at what happened aren't that bad. Not a lot of outrage once you dig in here, right? So what you do, is you bundle it with a whole bunch of ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 03:35 PM
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okay. Walk me through it please. Because the intentions were good. It was an assembly about sexual assault and harassment and the importance of respecting women and girls. Are you arguing that this is bad? These are highschool prinicpals and teachers who care about sexual assault and wanted to make a powerful statement. This is not some secret cabal out to destroy men. Could they have worded the request to stand better? Yes. Is this a threat to western civilization or the male gender? Please sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 03:17 PM
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who knows how those poor innocent boys felt about their self image and masculinity. Except... we do know, so we don't need to catastrophize, or have a moral panic. ​ Some parents said their children had found the assembly confronting, while others backed the school's attempt to address the topics of sexual harassment and assault with students. - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-25/apology-for-handling-of-sexual-assault-topic-at-assembly/13275492 So... some found the assembly confronting. Othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 03:01 PM
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To be perfectly fair, the ghost busters reboot tanking was the fault of a man. Specifically Paul Feig, who was absolutely not the right person to direct that movie. We shouldn't blame the cast for something that was Paul Feig's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 02:51 PM
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This is my problem with right wing outrage media. Its all manufactured outrage, and this is an excellent example. Lets break it down. This is Brauer College in Warnambool. A small high school (yes, Brauer "college" is a grades 7-12) with an enrollment of 850 students, located in a city in Australia with a population of less than half of Duluth. Golly gee willikers. They must have done something horrible! Lets see what those dastardly leftists did in their unrelenting assault against WeStErN cIvI…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 12:59 PM
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You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 07:55 PM
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I wake up every day looking forward to reading about the whacky shenanigans /u/angels-fan and his step-strawman have gotten themselves into.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 06:44 PM
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I'm not a great judge of men (well lets be honest people in general), but honestly that moustache is doing him absolutely 0 favors. I mean, as a general rule, moustaches should be avoided for men. This guy looks like he is an artsy fellow, and artsy people tend to look to avoid being constrained by rules... but... but, sometimes the rules are there for a reason, and if you don't understand why the rule is there in the first place, you will just end up serving as a reminder for why the rule exist…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 05:47 PM
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They already can. The University of Washington made that famous video of the fake Obama speech that went around 3 years or so ago demonstrating how very possible it is to create a convincing "deep fake". Here is the video. Technology we know of could do that 3 years ago. The technology is only getting better and more difficult to detect. So we need to be very careful about verifying sources and knowing where the videos we are watching come from. The knowledge that deep fakes can be made relative…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 04:10 PM
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This video is not "marketed for" rational audiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 11:17 AM
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In my opinion its more of a lesson about how we need to focus on teaching critical thinking skills to people. People who have critical thinking skills can break apart and understand how videos like this are insane. I watched it... its a video that goes from a discussion about how to teach math equations to social rejection is turning men to communism... in 7 minutes... only someone with very poor critical thinking will actually be persuaded by something like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 09:06 PM
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The 4 / 4 / 4 rule. Four Inches, Four Skin, Four Play wait
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 07:46 PM
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Or you know, some nob in HR didn't do a background check like they were supposed to, and someone panicked about bad press and didn't want to admit they made a mistake. A 1.8 billion dollar company (probably more now) didn't do due diligence and you jump straight to... "neomarxist tribalism"? lolwut? Maybe we should you know, not jump immediately to Nazi conspiracy theories when a corporation does a bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 05:22 PM
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If it makes you feel any better i responded to your "flirting" exactly as i would have if i was a cis woman, or transgender, or gay... complete disregard and a cold shoulder. And honestly i could be any of those things. Its not like you can, you know, check.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:26 PM
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What are you? Are you a woman of a tranny? Gender or sex have absolutely no bearing whatsoever on whether or not my points are valid. You can take what you will from the flair next to my user name on every one of my posts here, I don't really care. Also you are pretty ridiculous with all of your outrage in interpreting what I wrote. Your desperate desire to argue against a strawman is just silly. What you read: "You seem to think police are these ravenous beasts with blood on their breath on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 03:51 PM
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You have a very romanticized view of police work. Violent encounters, even in major cities, are the exception and not the rule. A lot of media portrays police work as a battle against violent crime in the streets. That isn't happening outside of the wet dreams of fascist sympathizers. (Police spend 4% of their time responding to violent crime, 50% percent of their time responding to non violent crime and traffic stuff... ) Reality, is far more mundane. Just like how House isn't an accurate repre…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 03:13 PM
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Charlie, if I wanted a bang maid I'd date your mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 02:33 PM
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Hbomberguy is the real alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 02:05 PM
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I don't know any women who could arrest me if I was high on adrenaline and willing to do anything to get away. I know you aren't American but in the grand ol' US of A, if you were doing this shit, the arresting officer (male or female) would likely use pepper spray, deploy a taser, or dog pile you with about 7 police officers once back up arrived. If you put officer lives in danger you may even be shot. Do you actually think that police engage in honorable duels to enact an arrest? Seriously? Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 02:01 PM
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Its a reference to an actual quote from LBJ, Lyndon B Johnson, 36th President of the US. ​ If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you. -LBJ LBJ is noteworthy in that he was the Democrat President who forced through the Civil Rights Act and splintered the New Deal Coalition. His actions in passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964, angered souther…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 01:20 PM
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Alpha / Beta dichotomy is one of the cornerstone tenants of the manosphere, which includes TRP. If you want to learn about attraction and human nature, read a book by someone with a PhD or degree in psychology, psychiatry, or even social work, people who have studied these things academically and/or run controlled tests. Don't take at face value the unsourced ramblings of anonymous misogynists on the internet. The idea that there are alpha and beta people and that this is an accurate way to expl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 01:00 PM
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You just sound anti-cop and unobjective My post was saying that WOMAN POLICE OFFICERS DESERVE RESPECT. How you could get anti-cop out of my post is beyond me. Are you trying to say that misogyny and distrusting women is a cornerstone of policework? ​ You must be a tall glass of water to be a rower. There are no university sports in my country, not like NCAA anyway. Meh, not really, I'm 5'10. Most Men's rowing programs aren't varsity, so they are generally less competitive due to lower funding an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 12:46 PM
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Athletic men and American police officers. Pick one. I was a college athlete for several years (rowing dont get too excited), cops are not athletes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 12:32 PM
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The red pill is baseless pseudo science and unsupported conjecture. The problem is that it likes to masquarade as scientific truth about human nature. Pointing out that the "science" of the red pill is outdated and disavowed damages its credibility and exposes it for the mere unscientific unsupported conjecture of keyboard misogynists that it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 11:20 AM
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Seriously. Also Lindsay Ellis' two part series about the Omegaverse lawsuit and her own personal battles with Addison Cain are some of the best videos I have ever watched...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 04:46 PM
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Maybe we shouldn't be applying a debunked wolf study that has been repeatedly disavowed by its original author to human men or women. Novel thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 04:13 PM
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don't forget to t pose while posting!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 04:10 PM
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I didn't make any speculation as to his rank. I said everyone participating in a raid has been trained to do so, I merely suggest that maybe he give the women officers who have received comparable training the respect they deserve instead of baselessly doubting them for no other reason than they are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 02:57 PM
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He is posturing and exaggerating and it shows. If we're raiding a drug house This means that he is in a SWAT or comparable team. Beat cops aren't doing "drug raids". I'm not going to even get into the fact that police shouldn't be doing violent raids for nonviolent drug offenses, because it needlessly puts both civilians and officers in danger... but this is neither here nor there. What I am saying is that any police officer participating in this raid, man or woman, has qualified for the SWAT te…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 02:49 PM
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There was that French homeless guy who apparently had a rigid exercise routine he did every day. Guy was seriously jacked. Don't ask me how I remembered this from 6 years ago... Found it, Jacques Sayagh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 12:28 AM
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Or maybe... different women have different opinions about cold approaching and some like it and some don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 12:25 AM
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Oh I get it, a conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 12:12 AM
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ITT, men complaining about how women aren't empathetic while showing a complete lack of empathy towards women. yup, average day on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 08:11 PM
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Mormons? Mormons. Are you seriously shocked that the last bastion of polygamous marriage in the United States decriminalized polygamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 06:56 PM
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You can't argue with these people. They will talk right past you and just regurgitate tired old talking points that don't hold up to scrutiny. Their beliefs aren't even consistent with themselves. Like with puberty blockers. They rhetorically use language like "given" to imply that this is something done without forethought or discussion. There is a purposeful implication in the language that they use that the decision to put a child on puberty blockers isn't what it actually is- a decision that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 06:42 PM
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Go read the long broad history of Brothels and Sex Workers in Europe. Despite the heavy moral compass on chastity, prudishness and strict religious stance on sex, prostitution was widespread and broadly used by all men of all social spheres, dating from Medieval era, Renaissance to Contemporary ages. It's only starting from the second part of the 20th Century, with the rising sensitivity towards global social issues (Human Rights, Feminism, Exploitation, Abuse and Poverty) where the stance on pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:39 PM
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/r/whereareallthegoodmen is a rough subreddit. We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the respect and courtesy that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid. In response to r/niceguys, this sub is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:01 PM
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She isn't wrong, but I would put a bit more nuance onto it. The people who are drawn to this subreddit, both men and women, are not a good sample of the greater world. There are several criteria that are relatively niche for anyone to even post on this subreddit. 1) you have to know what TRP is. 2) You have to care about TRP enough to desire to spread it (TRP) or stem it (TBP) or are intrigued about it and want to learn more (Purple). This is not a good sampling of the average person. To give yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 05:35 PM
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It was really weird for me talking to my then gf 12 years ago while she was playing Mass Effect 2. I asked her to pick between Garrus and Thane Krios and she went so hard to Garrus. I think when it comes down to it Garrus was the full package, big, friendly, supportive and protective. Suprised me at the time, i was expecting it to be closer. I still think Thane is one of the most interesting and tragic charcaters in the games though. His cutscene fight in ME3 vs Kai was outstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 03:49 AM
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Conservatives dont have any real arguments about why there is something wrong with consenting adults, so they gaslight everything back to pedophillia.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 02:22 PM
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Dont worry about it. During the first few weeks of Lockdown last year, someone was overheard going to the bathroom on the Zoom call for the ORAL ARGUMENTS BEFORE THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT. You cannot possibly fuck up that badly. That guy is a national laughingstock. Here you go enjoy https://youtu.be/xB0bUtTvdCU
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 11:40 PM
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Rigid gender roles are harmful for both men and women and stifle individuality and free expression.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 06:06 PM
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Adam Driver Obligatory Adam Driver x John Oliver post
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 03:23 PM
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That is an absolutely adorable No True Scotsman you have there
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 12:26 AM
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Except that TRP doesn’t really care about FDS Well this is obviously false, this sub wouldn't have had to quarantine all FDS / Incel posts into a mega thread for a while if TRP wasn't constantly posting about FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 11:58 PM
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FDS is a favored target for TRP because its an easy and effective target. First FDS is an obvious target because it proports to be a dating advise board for woman, a sort of equivalent to TRP. This makes it easy for TRP to frame it as the opposite of TRP, or draw analogies to TRP, etc. Second, FDS is very divisive amongst blue flaired posters here. There are multiple posters, such as myself, which generally disagree strongly with FDS, and there are also a significant number of posters here who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 11:42 PM
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The Derek Chauvin case is fucked. Our legal system starts to break down when you have a highly publicized and politically charged case like this, because finding a neutral jury, something our entire legal system is based on, is almost impossible in a high profile case like this unless you somehow manage to find twelve people who live under rocks. The Rittenhouse Trial, when it happens, will be likely even more of a nightmare. This is actually even more difficult due to the increasing polarizatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:49 PM
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Why do you care so much about what other people choose to do with their own free will? If someone doesn't want to be masculine, who are you to tell them they should be? Just leave well enough alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 06:03 PM
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It sounds like the problem isn't hypergamy, just bitterness that you can't get the women you are aiming for You figured out the entire philosophy of TRP! TRP is an attempt to rationalize a bitterness about not getting what an entitled manbaby thinks he is owed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 06:08 PM
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What are you talking about, I like Schaal for exactly the same reasons i like Patrick Warburton?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 03:38 PM
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Your logic is faulty here. Remember, sex work is a business. Its also not necessarily the perfect analogy. IMO, online sex work is a lot like Streaming. It takes skills as an actor / being personable, a lot of time commitment, and luck to really make money. Its not all looks. Sex work is acting, and not all actors/actresses are equally talented. Hit me up if you think a girl on onlyfans or a cam site is legitimately interested in you, I have some great real estate opportunities in Flordia you wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 02:50 PM
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Its. Not. A. Competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 04:57 PM
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This might be true here. But I find that men and women frequently have very similar relationships experiences... The issue is that here we have a lot of TRP people who have very rigid views on gender, and a huge closet incel population that also likely has a lot of bad luck in dating, and that same TRP rigid / toxic view on gender. Honestly, this post is another one of those that employs the fallacy of you can only complain about things if you have it worse. A problem or complaint IS NOT invalid…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 03:19 PM
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Do you need it as bad as John Oliver needs Adam Driver?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 07:52 PM
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Is your source Turning Point USA? Or Prager U?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 07:50 PM
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It was more of a I don't want to deal with this thing. People like that don't really become powerful kings. It's an interesting thought though. But Arthur isn't really just a powerful king. He is the legendary Once and Future King, and according to this retelling responsible for establishing civilization and decency in Europe. But its more than that though, why do you feel an obligation to connect Arthur's failings in his personal life with his success in other aspects of life. Is it not possibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 07:46 PM
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He willfully didnt know. Merlin told him and warned him of the affair repeatedly before it happened. Because magic. He chose not to become aware if it and purposefully avoided digging to discover it. Funny you should talk about morality Also that is another of Arthurs quirks. Morality. Arthur as king was devoted to morality and trying to be a just and fair king. He had specifically rejected your notion that men are ruthless killers, or the idea that might is right. There is a lot in the book abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 02:02 AM
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Lance is specifically and repeatedly described as ugly, to the point where his disfigured face is how a lot of people recognize him. It goes to the core of his character which involves hating himself and seeing himself as a monster. Lancelot himself is torn between love and loyalty for arthur and love for arthurs wife
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 01:57 AM
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I have recently reread the Once and Future King by TH White again. The last time I read it I was 13, and as a 13 year old I was not really equipped to understand some of the heavier concepts introduced in the second half of the book dealing with adultery, incest, and betrayal. So I wanted to revisit it, and I appreciate the book a lot more If you aren't familiar, its in my opinion the best telling of the Arthurian legend. I am always impressed by its transition from light hearted adventure to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 08:37 PM
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Doesn't sound like a loss to me...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 09:46 PM
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I do not support a worldview where my "default" is that "women are innocent". I fully believe that women are just as capable of cruelty and manipulation as men are. That is why everything I worded was gender neutral. Every single point you make about how "these men have to navigate all of this"... the same could be said for women in relationships as well. "I'd call it having appropriate boundaries" Its a cute trick you are trying to play here. Obviously having and enforcing appropriate boundarie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 09:24 PM
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"Do you not believe some men are going to pull this strategy on women? And do you think its successful enough that these men continue to play this strategy?" This is more of that "I don't care about ethics TRP is about sexual strategy and success and is independent of right or wrong". That doesn't really play though, because everything we do and choose to do is connected to ethics at some point. Anyway, what is the "strategy" you envision being employed? No matter how you cut it from a soulless …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 07:16 PM
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" Sounds like some over-possessive lowkey homophobic propaganda." I totally agree with you here. There is conflating of gay and bi, as well as the implication that homosexuality is somehow more hedonistic than other sexualities. The other underlying implication that you shouldn't trust your partner around people of the opposite sex in general. Temptation is always a threat to your relationship, but it is your partner's decision to have an affair. It is your partner's fault if they cheat, not the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 04:20 PM
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Honestly, you should trust your partner... you know... in general. Its not much of a relationship if you can't trust your partner, no matter how you cut it. If you don't trust your partner to not sleep with someone else, then you don't have trust in the relationship and you should break up. If you don't trust your partner because they have betrayed you in the past by sleeping with someone else, then you should break up / should have broken up after the betrayal. If you try to prevent your partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 04:06 PM
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Why would it be okay to be rude to someone for doing what they are supposed to do in a social situation? That doesn't make any sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:20 PM
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If you have a girlfriend, would you be okay with her sleeping with every man who approached her? I mean you wouldn't want to date someone who says things "knowing it will hurt their feelings", would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:01 PM
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There is more to life than sexual strategy. Sometimes its easy to forget that when we spend a lot of time in internet echo chambers that are focused on it. So subs like FDS, or TRP, or even here on PPD, a lot of people seem to believe that sexual strategy is the only thing that matters. Its this idea that everything is all about sexual strategy, or that I should otherwise make my life resolve around optimal sexual strategy. There is another unsaid implication here- the idea that everyone should …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:12 PM
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Ive noticed the people who have the most trouble with those drawings have a red flair ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 08:24 PM
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This is a really strange analysis on Harry Potter. Its also really wrong. I don't know if you are familiar with the Fantasy genre, but themes like Destiny and Fate and Bloodlines and Prophesy are often central to the story... They have been since Antiquity when the Greeks were wrestling with prophesies, from the Destruction of the One Ring, to Ciri in the Witcher... Really, how is Harry Potter different from the little boy in the Sword in the Stone ( i tend to prefer the TH White version)? In br…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:51 PM
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"anything I don't understand must be regressive and backwards"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 06:02 PM
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I wouldn't take what people say in a fight / breakup as their real opinion. Most of the time when two people are fighting, they aren't trying to communicate their real feelings, but are just trying to hurt the other person and cause as much emotional trauma as they can. This can mean explicitly attacking insecurities. So in this instance she isn't saying "you have a little dick" because she actually believes it. She is saying "you have a little dick" because she knows you are anxious about your …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 01:51 PM
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I really didn't like him on the League, honestly. Rafi always felt like too much. The problem I really had is that Rafi's character is meant to act as a foil to make the other characters seem more reasonable. Pete and Kevin, the show's two straight men (in show jokes notwithstanding), and Jenny and so need a foil to make their own whacky antics seem more reasonable and give them something to react humorously to. The problem is that the show already filled that role with Taco, and Ruxin, and Andr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 03:08 PM
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You should know that Neil has come forward and openly denounced his prior book. Neil Strauss- The Truth So uh, one of the most prominent and influential figures in PUA has denounced it and wrote a book about how it ruined his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 02:46 PM
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He sucks at communication. Seriously. She texts him “yeah I told Tanya we were going out and she said she wanted to come too, is that ok?” I've gone out to dinner countless times with co-workers. Male and female. Most of the time its a group thing. She literally asked him for permission, and he granted it. I don't think she could have been clearer. Tanya wanted to come. She asked him if Tanya could come, and he said yes. Acting surprised that Tanya was there or that he didn't bang is beyond dumb…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 01:30 PM
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I'm not poly, but this was a really good video by Innuendo Studios... who is. Its a good watch, although it might hit a little too close to home for some of you RP folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:56 PM
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I think its somewhere in between. I remember reading Pere Goriot, a book about Post Napoleonic France by Honore de Balzac. I will never know what it is like to be French, let alone during the Bourbon restoration. . I will never know what it is like to be an aristocrat from a declining family and struggling to find a place in higher society. Nevertheless, I felt a connection to the characters in a way that made them feel relatable. The truth is, these are still human characters, and they have hum…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 08:03 PM
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Incels are insane. My point stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 06:11 PM
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My theory on why incels so viciously attack and deride women's appearance, including attractive women. Basically, I am going to to assume three main things about incels generally: Incels generally have cripplingly low self esteem, believing that they are genetically inferior to some superior male specimen, colloquially known as 'Chad'. While the majority of people have self esteem issues relating to their appearance and body image from time to time, for incels it is exaggerated and many of them …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 03:16 PM
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Are you still upset about a commercial that came out two years ago? Damn, that is a powerful ad!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 01:39 PM
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Conservatives have been trying to portray themselves as "counter culture" for a few years now... its honestly laughable. They've since gotten old and established in centers of culture distribution, like universities and the media, and are now pearl-clutching thought-policing lame-o's. There is this strange conspiratorial worldview that far left ideology and "cancel culture" is being spread throughout society, and only "brave conservatives" will stand up for free speech and be "counter culture". …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 08:22 PM
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So are you saying you want them to lie about it and not tell you? I thought disclosing things like this so you can make an informed decision about whether you want to enter a relationship further is... good actually...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 02:23 PM
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Yes. You control what you do with your life. Not your wife, not your FWB, not your past. If I used to be financially irresponsible, but now I am frugal... that is fine. If your wife doesn't like it, she is also free to leave, or stay, its her decision. Just like you would be free to leave your wife if you don't like her decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 02:08 PM
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Why would any man in the world be okay with the AFBB relationship that women force onto men unknowingly. If every man in the world had this information, what do you think would happen? There is no practical difference between dating a virgin who won't have sex until marriage, and dating someone who decided after bad experiences that she won't have sex until marriage. Either way, I know going into the relationship that there will not be sex until marriage. My experience will be the same in the fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 02:04 PM
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I want to believe that this is satire, because it is almost completely unaware. So he starts with this; "You don't want to know. Basically it's a bunch of entitled virgins blaming women for their bad personalities, advocating for pedophilia with 17 year olds, and talking about doing an "acid wash" to women, whom'st won't have sex with them" Then in the meat of his post discovers these things; ​ Around the same time, my hatred for foids was starting to boil over... I actually started looking at w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 01:55 PM
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The past is in the past. I can't change what I did in the past, but I can change what I will do in the future. This is... well... this is how time works. Lets take a hypothetical, my cousin stopped drinking recently because he felt that he was using alcohol in an unhealthy way to cope with stress. Would you turn around and say; "He's literally telling you that he used to be a fun drinking buddy, but won't be for you... no sir." This is essentially the same argument. Its someone who knows that he…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 01:27 PM
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I'm not surprised, my Polish friends told me that the sex-ed can be very shitty is some parts of their country Well Sex Ed in America can be pretty rough too. Seeing as Andrzej Duda is also a right wing populist, it seems like poor education and lack of knowledge (especially about sex) is a conservative... "feature".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 01:54 PM
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Everything you said is pseudoscience. What you are in essence doing is using sciency sounding words to describe a behavior without any reference to the scientific process. It is essentially a bald faced attempt to dress up your baseless assertions in language that you think will make you sound smart. Strength is the only thing women are attracted to (emphasis added) In order to be scientific, a claim such as this must have control groups, it must have surveys, it must present some sort of falsif…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 08:49 PM
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Bear in mind that you don't even have to disprove it. OP didn't post a shred of evidence to support any of his claims. Its basically just a pseudoscience blabber and a naked request for us to agree with his unsupported claims. At its core, its just more pseudoscientific garbage basically arguing that women aren't rational and we shouldn't take their decisions seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 06:54 PM
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Most of the charges against bob are for unpaid parking tickets, and they drown out the more serious accusations (such as murder). Its not disgusting to defend a man if you think he's only being accused of parking tickets. Its not a perfect metaphor, but just because there are other accusations that you don't think are as serious... is not a counter to some of the evidence and stories that /u/Sick0incels pointed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 06:37 PM
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When I DM for my friends, I find that making every town populated with nothing but dudes is kind of strange in its own way. So I will create random girls and DM those NPCs in my town so that my players can have a more complete role playing experience. Wait what are we talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 12:15 AM
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Its correlation not causation. Gay men generally (and not without exception) put more effort into their appearance than straight men. As a result, because there is a direct relationship between how much effort you put into your appearance to how good you will look... gay men on aggregate look better than straight men. At the end of the day its more time spent grooming -> looks better. Its also a bit problematic that many straight men associate grooming with "looking gay" which only further contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 08:40 PM
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I don't get the obsession with "Disney". Walt Disney Company is influential yes. But they are not the original source of much of their IP. Disney primarily, and for a long time, focused on applying their artistic license to the stories of other authors. Some of which were very popular in their own right. Anyway, Captain Phoebus is pretty TRP and a huge asshole in the original Hunchback of Notre Dame written by Victor Hugo. ​ Despite being of noble birth and very handsome, he is also vain, untrus…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 05:38 PM
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Just to chime in, "only men have to sign up for Selective Service" is also in the running for the most irrelevant argument of all time. The USA has had volunteer only military since VIETNAM, and there is no indication that that will change anytime soon. Moreover, most people I know are anti-draft. This means that they believe that no-one should be drafted because they believe that compulsory military service is bad. I haven't met any pro-draft feminists. Most are anti-draft. So it wouldn't make …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 04:41 PM
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Because that is how TRP markets itself. It's marketing focuses on portraying itself as this new(ish) secret truth that feminists are conspiring to hide from men. Generally speaking it follows the same marketing strategy as those "one weird trick ads" that showed up everywhere a few years ago. It honestly is kind of amazing how closely to that playbook TRP actually is. “People tend to think something is important if it’s secret,” says Michael Norton, a marketing professor at Harvard Business Scho…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:59 PM
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I assume its a condition that frequently afflicts United States Republicans where they continue to obsess over Obama, make memes about Obama and Michelle, and blame any problems on the Obama administration even though Republicans had been in power for over 3 years. Thanks Obama
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 02:31 PM
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#YANGGANG!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 12:59 PM
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Addison Cain has entered the chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 05:43 PM
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What's weird about Nevada is that it isn't legal in Clark County (Where Las Vegas is located).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 08:54 PM
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I'm not arguing in bad faith. What motivates someone to commit a crime is important when categorizing it. Whether that crime is an act of terror is if the crime is political or ideological in nature, while a crime that is not political is not terror by definition. For example, a Trump supporter who murders his wife is not a terrorist because he was not motivated by his support of trump to murder his wife. As such, in our example it would be wrong to include that crime in a list of right wing vio…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 06:41 PM
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Not relevant. She shot Warhol because she was a paranoid schizophrenic and was convinced that Warhol was plotting to steal her work. The attack was not motivated by feminist theory, and the attack was not a political statement. 0 deaths, 1 injury (Warhol)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 06:10 PM
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Kristin Schaal is absolutely hilarious and I love her in everything that she does. Interview Felicia Day is also great. Or Tatiana DeMaria (TAT). Interview I would also add Carrie Brownstein. Interview In terms of women youtubers, I really like Lindsay Ellis. Honestly, there are a ton of awesome women out there. You are just in an echo chamber and probably need to get out more and explore the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 03:07 PM
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Please point me to some Feminist acts of terror... alright? Or point me to an example of feminist spaces venerating mass murderers and domestic terrorists. Lets not forget that Incels herald mass murders as saints. There’s been what, 2 Incel attacks in existence? And practically 0 Red Pill attacks. What are you on about. Try again. It takes a picosecond of googling to come up with a much much higher number. Lets ask wikipedia for a list. At least 13 or 14 separate incidents confirmed to be commi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 02:36 PM
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Interesting that you think Feminists need to "self police their radical sub- groups" but didnt feel the need to write that down for incels or TRP. By all rights the radical manosphere subgroups are far more violent and deadly, counting several mass murderers in their ranks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 12:30 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 07:41 PM
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You called it an experiment. You tried to pass off seasons of a reality tv show as experiments. That is beyond absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 06:07 PM
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Oh. My God. Are you seriously using a reality TV show as evidence? Really? And trying to obfuscate that by renaming "seasons" to "experiments"?? The Island with Bear Grylls
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 05:56 PM
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I worked for a guy named Chad once. Legitimately the worst attorney I have ever encountered in my life. He didn't actually do any work, he didn't actually know any of the laws. He relied completely on his second in command to do everything, and she single handedly carried the success of the firm on her back. He would also frequently stress nap on a couch in his office. He was just completely incompetent, I quit because he couldn't lead his way out of a cardboard box. The desperation to get out b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 03:18 PM
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So, a couple of points to undercut your position. Do you read articles you cite, or just skim them? First, the bulk of the criticism was that it was a film about a group of girls written and directed by two men. Half of the criticism would have evaporated if the project was lead by two women. Also before you say the screenplay would be the same because its an adaptation, no. Directors have a lot of influence on the artistic direction of a film. See auteur theory. Most of the complaints are that …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 02:51 PM
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Lord of the Flies was never about feminism, or even about male nature. Lord of the Flies was about human nature. If anything it was a portrayal of a dark State of Nature similar to what Thomas Hobbes envisioned- a state of war. The end of the book is telling, in that the lesson is that removed from "English Civilization", the English could become savage.... and the warship in the background represents that the English still are savage and warlike, even if they believe themselves to be civilized-…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 02:30 PM
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I tend to agree with you on this one. As long as there is no coersion to join that particular community, people should be free to participate if they like and free not to participate if they don't. The community, from the information provided, does not sound problematic. You want to get gang banged by middle aged men? Have... fun? Its not everyone's cup of tea but if its yours..., its your body and you aren't harming anyone else by going. If you want to be sexually liberated but find the existin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 03:12 PM
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If I cloned myself, then if I hooked up with my clone... would that be gay or just masturbation?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 02:57 PM
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You should consider having a few ribs removed so that you can demonstrate the proper technique.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 02:45 PM
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So what you're telling me is that someone like Fiona Glennane might have slightly too high of an m count for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 02:41 PM
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I miss when "I over underestimated him" or dodging a shoe was the pinnacle of presidential humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 06:11 PM
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Or uh, he pulled a Robert Baratheon on her. Gods he was strong then. People get older. Most people are in much worse shape at 40 then they were at 20. It just be that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 01:36 PM
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Nevada (is in the USA)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 01:26 PM
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Yes. Everyone should. Herd immunity is important to destroy community spread, and to achieve that you need penetration of the vaccine into the population. Bear in mind that there are people with preexisting conditions or otherwise compromised immune systems who are unable to take a vaccine. When a person refuses to take a vaccine they are not only putting their own life in danger, but also the lives of those people who cannot take a vaccine due to medical reasons. There are very real concerns du…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 01:19 PM
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You mean Ted Cruz?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 09:17 PM
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I hope this is satire. Because its really not hard to do and is actually quite natural. Most english speakers default to they/them when the gender of an individual is unknown. ​ Gina: My sister is brining her friend over for dinner. Is that okay? Stuart: That should be fine. I am looking forwards to meeting them. Singular friend, gender unknown from the conversation. they /them are defaulted. Why is this hard for you? You already probably do it whenever referring to someone with an unknown gende…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 08:57 PM
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She was really underrated tbh. Dorothy Zbornak was every bit as scathingly witty as Frasier or Niles Crane.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 05:43 PM
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I don't think there is anything wrong with using "pregnant people". Women are people, so the HMS-CME tweet is factually consistent and fair- no matter what your beliefs are about trans issues. I don't understand why its such a big deal for the author to have written "pregnant women" as opposed to "pregnant people", both are fine. The only difference is pregnant people is more inclusive to trans men. People making a big deal out of this are a bit silly. Who cares if an author uses an accurate but…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 05:12 PM
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Are you short selling your shares in the sexual marketplace?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 04:55 PM
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I have overhead these things in conversation and not even in a jokingly way. You just have to go onto twitter to find disgusting jokes This isn't FDS though. Same with your talk about Johnny Depp. What does this have to do with FDS? Same with your link to /r/nicegirls... again... not FDS... I'm not really qualified to engage with you on topics about circumcision. That said, none of the links you posted to really took a strong stance. The first FDS link you posted the majority of posters consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 03:45 PM
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THANK YOU FOR BEING A FRIEND! TRAVELED DOWN A ROAD AND BACK AGAIN YOUR HEART IS TRUE, YOU'RE A PAL AND A CONFIDANT It was a long running sitcom in the late 80s, early 90s. It was really good. Betty White is a national treasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 03:06 PM
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People say this a lot. But I've never really seen any evidence of that. Especially any evidence that it is nearly as prevalent as the toxic attitudes on incel or TRP forums. So I guess, if you think this is true, post some evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 02:35 PM
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You sort of self destructed your argument. Two things can be bad, but also one of those things can still be worse than the other. See what I mean. For example, I might tell you that pistachio ice cream is bad (IMO), but I would still tell you that it is better than a bowl of bat guano. So when you get into the nitty gritty, There are also incels who advocate for legalised r*pe, child abuse and abuse of women in general. This is really really bad. Significantly worse than anything you will find o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 02:23 PM
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I've always been more partial to "Cheeto Mussolini"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 03:23 PM
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Your example leaves out crucial context, which was what my original point was. Let me show you what I mean. First, we need to ask the equivalent question. Q: Do you like eggs and pancakes with breakfast? ​ A: "I like eggs for breakfast. eggs make a great breakfast food. all preparations of eggs are delicious" You were asked whether you like both, but your answer only identifies one. Because of how the question was asked, there is an implication that by only answering eggs, that you don't in fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 03:04 PM
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The reason people are so drawn to shaming, is because it lets them blame someone else without actually facing the daunting task of what we need to do to actually fix the problem. Better health education, increased access to grocery stores in urban areas, stricter regulations on fast food, reducing stress on workers so they have more energy to focus on health. All of these things cost money and/or time and/or effort. So people just want to blame others and shame them until things are the way they…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 02:58 PM
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I feel the same way, but I still kinda want to, tbh. Vancouver, Montreal, Quebec... those are my top three.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 02:52 PM
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You didn't, you omitted it, in a response to a comment talking about differences between men and women. Which has a strong implication that this is woman specific- whether intentional or not. Language is important, remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 02:51 PM
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Wait, so you don't think that men cannot be seduced? If i wrote the following sentence, would you disagree with it? "cheating for men is SEDUCTION influenced, that is why men should always be chaperoned. every man can be seduced" Because if the above sentence is true, your statement that this is a woman phenomena and omitting men is almost purposefully misleading because the OP asks for a comparison between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 02:37 PM
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Good girl, in a straw hat, with her arms o-out in a corn field. ... that is a scarecrow... I thought it was a human woman- sorry!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 02:30 PM
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Huh. I always thought that you were just supposed to huddle up and cry in there? That is what I've been doing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 02:26 PM
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You bear the legendary Sword Behind Inappropriate Prepositions!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 02:24 PM
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I've always been partial to Tatiana DeMaria.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 02:20 PM
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They don't. Simple as that. What you are seeing is a confirmation bias and availability heuristics. I'm curious why men gravitate to places like the redpill. So we need to be careful when we look at language like this. Are you assuming that men as an entire class gravitate towards TRP and asking why? Or are you asking why TRP is almost exclusively populated by sad lonely men? The red pill is a niche group of people, that are by and large exclusively men, but this doesn't mean that all men are dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 02:11 PM
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Yea, that is why i support the popular vote deciding the election... Also look at the actions of what the parties have done. Republicans under trump have severely harmed white working class americans by gutting their protections under the nlrb
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 05:55 PM
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And if we actually cared about white working class in this country we would all vote Democrat. Because for all of the problems with the Democratic party they are the only party that has consistently voiced support for Labor Unions. Donald Trump, what have you done to the NLRB?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 05:47 PM
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This doesnt make sense though, because the Electoral college has the exact same issue the house of reps has for smaller states. Disproportionate control by larger states. Look how many electors Ca, Tx, Fl, and NY have. That is why the Senate is 2 per state.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 05:19 PM
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That's why the number of electors and congressional reps is the same, no? That is primarily a coincidence. The founding fathers did not intend for the Executive (or the Judiciary) to have anywhere near the amount of authority those branches wield today (the authority of the Judiciary was greatly expanded under Chief Judge John Marshall). As such, concern for power and representation was primarily focused on the Legislature during the drafting of the Constitution. The purpose of the electors was …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 04:14 PM
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I actually liked the simplicity of the Articles of Confederation a lot. If I were an American in the 1700s I would have been an anti-federalist and supported keeping the Articles of Confederation. It would have been interesting to see if instead of a centralized Govt that the Constitution gave us, if we had developed something more akin to the European Union where member states have significantly more autonomy on an individual level. The purpose of the electoral college is completely alien today…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 03:55 PM
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Actually, as someone who has lived in both rural towns and urban centers, voting has always been considerably easier in rural areas. There are typically more polling places per population, so in rural areas even if I had to drive slightly further to get to a polling place, the lines were usually non existent and it was always a relatively painless experience. Contrast this to when I would vote in urban areas, the population density meant I always had to wait in line for at least 20 minutes somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 03:43 PM
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How though? How does popular vote disenfranchise rural voters? A vote cast in Bad Axe would be just as important as a vote cast in NYC. When we are talking about the House of Reps to represent specific interests of a community in government, sure. When talking about the President of the entire US, where I live shouldn't have an impact on how "enfranchised" my vote is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 03:33 PM
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Men who are virgins aren't good for anything. Lets debate. Both statements are obviously untrue. Maybe we shouldn't dehumanize people based on their n-counts. Men or women. Hmmm?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 03:31 PM
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The problem you run into is because of the way its split into House of Rep districts, which are frequently susceptible to heavy gerrymandering. While having sub districts such as this is important obviously when electing the house of reps, it doesn't serve any purpose for reflecting the popular vote in a general election and just offers further opportunities to subvert it. Why not just go by popular vote? The electoral college was initially created because the founding fathers didn't trust the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 03:27 PM
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The problem with split electoral voting is that it heavily favors people who live in rural areas as opposed to people who live in urban areas. I personally don't believe that someone is less valuable, nor do I believe that their opinion matters less depending on where they are from. My vote should be just as important and matter just as much if I lived in Los Angeles, Ca as if I lived in Bad Axe, Mi. While splitting electoral voting does reduce the all or nothing nature of the current electoral …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 02:57 PM
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It doesn't matter. Trump isn't a billionaire, that will quickly become apparent. Its hard to get stuff from divorce or inheritance when Deutsche Bank seizes and liquidates all remaining assets... whoops!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 01:47 PM
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I mean. Everyone should be antifa though. Antifa -> Anti Fascist. Who has neutral feelings about fascism? Generally you are either pro fascism or anti fascism, pick one?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 01:40 PM
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They.....are men. Cock & balls. Men. You aren't really helping your case mate. The question was "are you an asshole"? To answer that question it really don't matter how you define men. -> Person A has a preference to be referred to as a certain gender. -> Calling Person A by their preferred pronouns does not encroach on you at all. IE calling Person A by their preferred pronouns has no cost to you or your freedoms. You can go and cry about how you don't have an obligation to be "polite", you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 09:57 PM
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Ah yes, the political equivalent of "I have an uncle who works at Nintendo" Some things never change, do they...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 09:40 PM
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At best you could argue that it comes across as concern trolling. Lets break down what you said; "Gee, giving hormone blockers to 15 y/o young men seems to be something we should think hard about." 15 y/o young men: While it will depend on circumstances, here you are intentionally misgendering people. Essentially, you are making a statement concerning young adults who are questioning their gender or may prefer to go by female pronouns and you are making a conscious effort to state that they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 09:33 PM
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Meh, I've always found that colloquially words like "dork" "nerd" and "geek" are basically interchangeable. Maybe we should make a greater effort to return these words to their original definitions... but for the time being I don't see a difference in these groups when used by the vast majority of people using these terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 08:42 PM
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THE WATER IS MAKING THE FROGS GAY. alsobythewaynocoincidencepleasebuythiswaterpurifierthatisspecialandonlythisspecificwaterpurifiercangetoutthegayfrogchemicals
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 08:10 PM
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I am somewhat heavily involved in nerd communities, and I know people who are involved in others. If you are picking nerd hobbies to get into because women also do them, I would say to focus on. Cosplaying- especially designing and pulling off costumes. Role Playing Games like Dungeons and Dragons Board Game Clubs Magic (including Tarot, Wicca / Witchcraft) while not necessarily "hobbies" in the strictest sense these are definitely niche interests that I've encountered women being into. - Things…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 07:55 PM
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All attractive men with alpha traits will cheat ... I can tell you that attractive men who feel superior to their wives WILL end up cheating Your point is immediately invalid when you speak in terms of raw absolutes. There are no universal rules of human relationships. Some will, you could even argue most will, but immediately going into unsubstantiated absolutes for "shock" value isn't really a worthwhile point. This is how the man I had an affair with was. He felt that he was better than his w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 02:39 PM
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good luck debating with an out anti-semitic fascist whose user name is literally "democracy doesnt work"...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 03:35 PM
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I am always amazed when redpillers try to gaslight people into thinking that they aren't "nice guys". Just a quick look through these comments and you can see nice guy sympathizers swarming about with their red flairs. How... ironic. Don't come at me with the 'to just be a decent person' angle because...please, lettuce be cereal. Kindness is effort and effort without reward is wasted energy. This is just another typical post that doesn't really understand what it means to be nice. It also doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 12:39 PM
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Or uh... you know. You could do this for yourself and take pride in your own appearance for its own sake. You can pretend all you want that the only reason guys put any effort into their appearance is to get girls... but the truth is nobody actually wants to look like a frumpy dumpy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 02:49 PM
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I personally already do all of those. Not really relevant. The point is that most / many guys don't, and your post wasn't about you it was about every guy. All you have to do is go to a public street (or magic the gathering tournament) and look around to see so many opportunities for guys to improve their looks through grooming. ​ I don't think most guys should bother, it can only give about one point max. Also, this seems to contradict your initial point. If you really believed that it isn't wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 02:10 PM
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There isn't much you can do to improve your looks as a guy I call bullshit. There is a ton guys can do to improve their looks. We just... uh... don't. Or give up because its too much work. Everyone says get in shape, so we aren't going to talk about it. Dressing well. This includes understanding what goes well together. Learning about fashion, wearing clothes that fit you. So many guys I know don't care at all about the clothes they wear, or they have no idea of why the clothes they wear make th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 01:55 PM
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the point is that I can clearly define and picture RP ideas and main concepts. I can not do so for BP. You can't clearly define a BP dating strategy because it doesn't exist. As /u/Gravel_Roads points out in his comment, TBP is not a positive ideology but rather a reaction to TRP. Saying that TRP is wrong does not create an obligation to provide an alternative. The truth is that every person who is "blue pilled" has their own idea of effective dating strategy and advice. Some of it is good, some…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 01:28 PM
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But asinine hypotheticals are an important part of the fabric of PPD's DNA! Its like gluten in baking... it holds us all together.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 02:04 PM
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I would posit it is because many men have a savior / hero complex. Wherein they believe, at least on some level, that they are good and pure- while other men are vicious, mean, violent and impure. Some exceptions are made, of course, such as for close friends and family. And if asked about it specifically they usually have to dance away and say they aren't talking about all other men, just the ones with girlfriends. Its why you get this weird "class struggle" belief system from incels and nice g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 01:15 PM
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No. I don't see any reason to care. We all have a past. I will never understand why men in general are so obsessed with comparing themselves to other men that the fact a woman has more experience than them scares them. I've been in relationships with women with "more" sexual experience than me. I've been in relationships with women with "less" sexual experience than me. How successful those relationships have been depends on the woman not their sexual history. I think people just need to chill o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 12:30 PM
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"I could buy a used Dodge Challenger with that and maybe get my pee pee wet!" then chances are you are better off not reproducing. Or... you know... they could go to a sperm bank / have their eggs frozen first.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 12:27 PM
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That isn't Catherine Dworkin. Its obviously Susan B. Cady Stanton. Thought you could pull the wool over my eyes did ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 07:09 PM
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Technically couldn't they make the sub private during purge week?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:30 PM
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Real red-blooded red-pilled manly alpha man-chads understand this. That is why they only allow themselves to masturbate once a month to the finest American made Western Animationtm and only insert dildos into their butts to own the libs, and not for any other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:04 PM
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tfw you strategize your texts as hard as you can and you still end up bent over while a big strong Russian takes you from behind. Zhukov was such a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 05:50 PM
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Just like Incels
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 06:40 PM
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Incels are the socialists of the SMP. I don't think that this is an appropriate generalization. Incels are what they are, but I've seen various proposed "solutions" from incels ranging from communism to fascism to ancap. It isn't socialism though, but rather the idea is communism in that it seeks to make women's bodies communal property. Communism "sex is a human need, therefore society has an obligation to meet that need for individuals. The only way to achieve this goal is to make women's bodi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 06:06 PM
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Interestingly enough, I was recently made aware that there are some Tankie MRA / Manosphere types here as well. Check it out. /u/revolutionary_baxism FDS and Neoliberal ideology seem to go hand in hand, as seen with how Wall Street Journal endorses them. I literally mean just that, Neoliberalism which is a far-right economic policy. Only males can be the proletariat because they rely on wages for access to material needs. If you are male you are born one, read Bax. Social welfare, worker’s right…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 02:56 PM
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Don't forget that they are also simultaneously grossly incompetent and the greatest threat western civilization has ever faced.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 08:42 PM
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So you clearly believe they are "selling something unhealthy". Well in your opinion how is Pokimane selling something that say Tfue is not? Do you believe that all Twitch Streamers / youtubers should be banned because they all create parasocial relationships? Or do you only think that female twitch streamers / youtubers should be banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 08:06 PM
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So I have some thoughts here. /u/taapy234 Are all FDS subscribers pro male infanticide? I remember reading a post from one lesbian posting there that called for this "solution" to the "male depravity" problem. ​ /u/Top_Efficiency5067 They are still vile people for saying that. Let's not excuse evil behavior. What is happening here? /u/taapy234 has remembered (not reliable) one (a singular instance of extremist content) and draws from that comment a question about all FDS subscribers. Why would y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 04:27 PM
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Why can't people just like things? There is nothing wrong whatsoever with someone who plays football who also enjoys anime. They don't enjoy it any less because you think they are a "casual" or a "normie".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 01:29 PM
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Honestly, its probably a pretty low number. Red pill in general is a cult of masculinity that worships alpha male culture. So for the most part you aren't going to find any red pilled gays or red pilled bi people or red pilled trans people, because those lifestyles by their nature flaunt the "traditional" masculnity worshiped by the red pill. I'm not saying they don't exist, nor am I saying that elements of TRP aren't adopted by some who aren't straight males. But by and large, you aren't going …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 01:16 PM
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I don't agree that most people are on one side or the other. I also don't like how FDS is constantly portrayed as the only alternative to TRP- you are either TRP or FDS. Its ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 01:36 PM
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So let me get this straight. You only care about children before they are born, but once they are out of the womb you are content to let them die or starve to death?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 03:21 PM
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Its an incel baiting thread. You can see all the classic symptoms. He assumes the question that all women have an "unacceptable" n-count, he also assumes that the only thing people can have in common are sexual histories. He also assumes that it is (functionally) impossible to find an "acceptable" woman in his "age range". But also notes that he puts additional qualifiers on those low n-count women (non religious) so as to make it more difficult to find them. Then he acts as though dating "high …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 12:52 PM
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Self improvement isn't a 20 second movie training montage. You just aren't playing eye of the tiger loud enough, or wearing enough sweat bands- you need one on your head, two on your wrists, and two on your ankles. If its still not working, your athletic shorts probably aren't short enough and you should cut the sleeves off your t shirt... if that isn't doing it, add a perm and a moustache to the mix and you should be gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 01:15 PM
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What do you mean don't put in work ? I already spoken to 3 girls and none of them gave me their number Oh my god. That isn't how dating works. To give you a similar analogy, it would be like saying "I've rolled 3 dice, none of them were a 6, therefore it is impossible to roll a 6".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 01:10 PM
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No one wants to put in an extreme amount of effort to finally get a girl with a body count of 20+ in her 30s that doesn't find you attractive Why is this always the picture that incels paint? 1) Girl in her thirties If you are an 20-24 year old dude, you will most likely end up dating a woman who is 19-23 or so. Large age gaps in relationships are pretty rare. If you are in your thirties... what is the problem with dating a woman in her 30s? I'm a man in my early 30s, honestly I get a long with …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:01 PM
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This is why its a joke in conservative communities every time one of these guys gets outted for pedo, harassment, rape etc. Its like they are trying to over compensate for their own depravity Your thoughts on this fun romp? What is it with conservatives constantly projecting their own insecurities onto liberals who just want to live their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 03:42 PM
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This is just the tired old argument "no you". But you don't actually address any of the concerns I pointed out. The fact of the matter is even if both sides do it, 1) that doesn't make it a good thing or a rational thing and 2) it still doesn't change the fact that I see it more from right wing spaces. Second, I have never really understood the obsession that seems to focus around the idea of "wrong think", from what I can gather it is little more than a moral panic defense employed almost exclu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 03:50 PM
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Feminism need not present women as "faultless angels" while also still rightly identifying ways in which women are victims of sexist oppression. Part of the problem, I think, is that the current zeigeist- especially on the right, is centered around moral puritanism. Increasingly, I see this world view being presented where if someone is a bad person (however that might be defined varies a lot), they deserve it when bad things happen to them, typically regardless of how those bad things happened.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 05:45 PM
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Don't forget Blue Mountain State! I learned everything I know about being a man from Thad Castle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 12:22 AM
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Being a feminist is probably the biggest hindrance to getting laid (source: i was a 'male feminist' in my youth). You were never a feminist. Because believing that women's decisions should be respected has nothing to do with getting laid. Its a deeply flawed perversion to believe that all men who support feminist causes do it in an effort to "get laid". On the contrary, it is the morally correct and logically consistent position. My success with women is independent of my views on gender. People…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 07:31 PM
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So, I have a news flash for you. I, a blue pilled man, don't really care about whether or not women would be happier in a career or at home. What I do care about is that women, and men for that matter, have the autonomy and freedom to choose to be as happy or as unhappy as they want. If a woman chooses to enter a professional field, that is her choice and her discretion. If a woman chooses to be a stay at home mom, again that is her choice and a choice made at her discretion. Either way, it is h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 07:09 PM
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Convince us to abandon the playboy lifestyle. If this was really your lifestyle, you wouldn't be posting on TRP or on PPD. Nor is this type of lifestyle something you can accomplish by adopting TRP, having sexist views on women will not transform you into Donald Draper no matter how much you tell yourself it will. Honestly, posts like this do a really good job of exposing how much in common TRP has with other scams. This time lets look at MLMs. I say MLMs because when I read your masturbatory fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 07:01 PM
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The problem is the violence, not the conservative ideas. The problem is that conservative ideas at least with respect to women, are very focused on controlling women and limiting women's autonomy over their own bodies. If you believe that abortion should be illegal, then you must believe that the State has the authority to enforce that law. The State enforces its laws through state sanctioned violence, including but not limited to arrest and involuntary containment. If you believe that the State…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 05:57 PM
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one cannot deny there is innate level of mysticism to the universe - you tell me what existed before "the Big Bang" and what preceded that Its important to note that I did not say anything negative about mysticism itself. I merely pointed out that your understanding of it is surface level, poor, and sexist. Which I stand by. i have noticed you keep pointing out my poor understanding of the world and yet you conveniently skip over the questions i ask You haven't asked any real questions. You are …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 05:45 PM
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women are more intuitive - they are naturally connected to the intangible energy of the universe which is constantly in flux men are less in tune with this "energy" - our minds are not as reactionary to it... some would call this "rationality" - because we are better able to recognize these impulses and supercede them that opens us up to be able to truly discern who we are as individuals ...im not saying its impossible for women just less likely - they are more likely to "go with the flow" CITAT…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 04:09 PM
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Why do you think women are so obsessed with the handmaid’s tale? Because it has a popular hulu adaptation. The book was written in 1985. But the recent hype about it is pretty recent and IMO largely attributed to the Hulu show, which is well done. Because its a horrifying dystopian future that explores feminist issues that feel increasingly relevant as our government slips further to the right and flirts with totalitarianism. Part of what makes it resonate so effectively and be so horrifying is …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 01:29 PM
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So... you unironically want to live in A Handmaids Tale?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 12:59 PM
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i like what you did although beyond a joke its pretty misleading Its not misleading. What I posted is a relatively accurate portrayal of the level of discourse of men in this sub and in general. You are trying to create, or more accurately put imply, a dichotomy between men and women. A vision where men are sitting in their study sipping a Glenlivet and water while musing whether John Rawls was correct in his assumption that humans are truly risk averse in "A Theory of Justice" on the one hand, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 12:40 PM
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How many men do you know are working towards self-actualization? Y'know...the final pillar in Maslow's Hierarchy of needs or anywhere along the lines of Debrowski's Theory of Positive Disintegration. One of the key tenets of such development is taking responsibility for one's life. In doing so then one can legitimize their own values, place in the world, and so on... It has been my experience that, for the most part, men refrain from taking responsibility. I have hardly heard of any men working …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 08:55 PM
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You are aware that there is more than 1 country on this planet... right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 12:41 PM
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That is an interesting way of looking at the world. Most of the FDS or feminism critics I've come across round these parts of the woods are decidedly far right. You seem to be more of a tankie, which is an interesting perspective. I do tend to agree with you that many wings of Radical Feminism, and especially TERFs have been slipping to the right, and... FDS as a hotbed of TERFs... the right wing comparison makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 05:52 PM
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You're in your own head. You've defined yourself as gross and you've defined yourself as a stranger. You are at a party of someone you know. You are an acquaintance. Moreover, why would you define yourself as "gross" if you've showered, shaved, dressed and groomed? You were in your own head thought spiraling.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 05:38 PM
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Neoliberalism? What words are you trying to use? From your post history you've used it multiple times... Neoliberalism is quite frankly, generally speaking libertarianism. Privatization, deregulation, free trade, and an increased role of the private sector in society. What always confuses me is how people tend to conflate "Neoliberal" with something completely opposite it, namely "Marxism". Sometimes I start to wonder if people are just ignorant as to what the words they use mean or if they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 05:26 PM
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He isn't wrong though. Especially with respect to the evopsych nonsense that was pointed out. /u/Kaisha001 wrote: Women have a smaller window of fertility. Because of this they men stay sexually attractive longer. Its not 'Men Are Wonderful Effect' its biology. As /u/TotalTravesty pointed out. This is BAD SCIENCE, and its not an argument whatsoever. Walking through it; Women have a smaller window of fertility -> therefor men stay sexually active longer. This is the first logical blunder because …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:15 PM
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There's a lot to unpack here. For men, sex is just pure effort from beginning to end and your manhood is judged the entire time. Honestly, it straight up sounds like you quite frankly just don't enjoy sex, or at least sex with women. If you really feel this way I think there is a lot going on under the hood that you should probably explore. You might be gay. You might be asexual. You might for whatever reason just find that sex with women isn't for you. That is fine though. It doesn't have to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 06:08 PM
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I already did. Shall we meditate on the Russian Roulette analogy again? Just because you don't always lose doesn't mean playing is a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:19 PM
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I'm confused at what your point is? Are you arguing that "if Obama did it it was good?"... judging from a glance at your post history I don't think you believe that. Obama isn't a saint, just because he was a good president doesn't mean everything he has done is perfect... he is still human after all. I don't agree with how his relationship with Michelle started. I also don't think that just because it worked for Obama means that it isn't toxic or that it isn't a bad idea. It still is both of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:13 PM
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I don't play those games. Unless you are psychic or there are other (preferably obvious) signs... it can be difficult to differentiate between a woman "playing hard to get" and "please leave me alone"... especially when emotions are high. Its like recommending someone play Russian roulette with a live round in the cylinder... to use your words, "sometimes you won't die". You are better off just leaving it at "no" means no. And in my experience no good has ever come from forming a relationship wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 01:58 PM
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Tennis is a really rough sport. Its much more athletic than people give it credit for and factors such as height and strength really come into play when putting spin on the ball, getting shots past your opponents defenses, and reaching for shots to extend your own coverage. Generally about 6'1-3 is considered the optimal height for tennis. Anyway, there was a highly publicised match in 1998 between the Williams sisters (then 16 and 17) vs. Karsten Braasch who was at the time 30 years old and ran…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 01:46 PM
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Its an interesting question. One that honestly the posters here aren't really qualified to weigh in on in any sort of definitive sort of way. That said, I think we can still talk about factors which might contribute to this, culturally of course being more interesting than biology... because culturally we can make adjustments to make the world we live in a better place. First, I would like to point out that on some level men are subconsciously trained to not take a woman's desires into considera…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 01:18 PM
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Well. You should be estate planning anyway-whether you get married or not. Probate and probate court is a disaster no matter how you slice it and you are better off setting up at least a simple will and/or trust no matter what your marital status is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 03:48 PM
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when you’re just an unmarried, live-in partner you get absolutely no say in any medical decisions if your partner is incapable of advocating for themselves medically. you also get no say in what happens to your partner’s finances or assets if they die & you receive no inheritance. By default, yes. But some of these issues can be alleviated through estate planning. Wills and trusts can be formed to grant your money when you die to whoever you want. You can also give your live in significant other…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 03:29 PM
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I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. - Dune
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 02:58 PM
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I am merely pointing out a common thinking pattern in both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 02:55 PM
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Its not quite so simple though, is it? You are downplaying many of the benefits of actually being married. Marriage has cultural implications that are important to many. Indeed much of the fight about gay marriage was about homosexual men and women wanting to have that same cultural recognition and verification of their relationship. Moreover, Marriage is often financially rewarded through tax breaks. For people who have health insurance through their employer, it may apply to your spouse but no…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 02:47 PM
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To me, this does a very good job of exploring some of the insecurities that plague TRP, (and conservative thought in general. ) that she had another guy of higher quality before us, Its this obsession with ranking and hierarchies. To them, everyone must be ranked, and people are either better than them or worse than them. With this concept that humans are innately unequal, people must as a matter of natural law either be better or worse than each other. Men must either be better or worse than wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 02:35 PM
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These issues don't have much to do with divorce law. Any involvement of legal procedures has the potential to be expensive. This isn't women's fault, nor is it feminism's fault, nor is it the fault of the marriage laws on the books. Its the fault of our inefficient legal process, an overdependence on attorneys due to needless overcomplication and formalities associated with the court process. You have to remember that you aren't being screwed over by women or even by your ex wife. You are being …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 02:22 PM
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So my question is: If you agree with this: why do you think this myth is so popular on this subreddit? If you don't agree with this: can you provide any information, even just one case of law, where a prenup was unfairly waived by a judge ? (please no story about "the cousin of a guy I know", those stories are usually already fake or greatly exaggerated by the time you hear them). I think its a popular myth because it adds credence to a lot of manosphere anxieties. Especially when painting women…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 12:57 PM
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dex is my dump stat
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 12:57 PM
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I'm happier, she's happier. We all win. So I would say if anything it helps my chances, rather than hurts them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 12:54 PM
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I don't really care what other people think about me, personally. Feminine, Masculine... I don't let bullshit artificial societal constructs tell me what I want to do. I have thick eastern European body hair, its disgusting, so I shave it off. All of it. I like guns and have several I am a dork and play DnD and Warhammer. I prefer my hair long and have been growing it out for over a year now. None of this has impacted my dating life, because I am not ashamed of my preferences. I don't really car…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 12:48 PM
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Work on your Boston accent. Ladies can't resist a man in a Bruins jersey exclaiming; you think yah wicked smaht, but I'm wicked smahtah! By far the most seductive dialect on the planet. Anyway, you probably don't have to worry about it. I have never been on a date where a girl asks me how many people I've been with. I've only been asked by girls... two times total, and only after we slept together several times and had started dating. Its not going to come up 9 times out of 10. Don't base your w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 12:58 PM
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Goodwin's law, on my PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 12:50 PM
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After browsing FDS and browsing TRP... I can safely say that FDS hates men less than TRP hates women and FDS is less angry than TRP. I think that TRP wants FDS to be as angry as they are to justify their rage.... sadly its just not the case. I don't agree with either worldview... but FDS definitely is less angry on the whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 08:34 PM
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I might think about it if I actually gave a shit about what you wrote. So you admit to debating in bad faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 01:45 PM
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Now that's some next level hamstering. clap clap And just like that, you toss your cards on the table and fold. I think we are done here. Think about what I wrote. I'm not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 01:38 PM
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You keep using these words. I do not think they mean what you think they mean. misogyny- hatred of, aversion to, or prejudice against women You are a misogynist when you use a word to imply that women are "dumb, cute animals". You are a misogynist when you use a word to imply that men who are womanly are "dumb cute, animals". Your misogyny is still rooted in a prejudice or hatred against women, because your hatred is for feminine traits. Whether they are exhibited in feminine men or women themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 01:32 PM
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Removing a word from usage doesn't get rid of mysogyny. Correct, but your usage of these words, and how you use them... exposes your misogyny. Moreover, the same misogyny is exposed in others who use these words in a similar manner to you. Play misogynistic language games, win misogynistic prizes. EDIT: (also you're ignoring the fact that I use 'hamstering' for both men and women, but I get that acknowledging that would ruin your point) It doesn't ruin my point though. Because you say you apply …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 12:55 PM
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I've described behavior from both women and certain cucks as hamstering. I use 'mental gymnastics' for people I like, because it makes them sound intelligent but misguided, but hamsters are dumb, cute animals. Case in point. Hamstering = women and cucks = dumb, cute animals Mental Gynastics = people I like = intelligent but misguided These are exactly the language games that are used, as they were intended to be used. You are describing the same behavior, but playing different games with languag…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 12:49 PM
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If you are a man who has gone out with a feminist I have 3 questions Am man, check. While I do (and have) date(d) feminists, I would not date a "radical feminist". There is a big difference between rad fem and lib fem. In my experience Rad Fem is too tainted by TERF ideology... to the point I feel like I might as well just date Ben Shapiro. I think its worth noting that FDS is a hot bed for TERFs, maybe that will change... but either way I probably wouldn't date anyone subscribed there. Did you …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 12:43 PM
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Eh, Its not quite a synonym because the way that it is used, it is very gendered towards women. Even the definition given in the OP specifically uses gendered terminology. OP didn't create that definition. He took it off TRP Glossary. People in general are hypocritical, yes. Honestly, if it were merely a synonym than gendered language would not be necessary. Men certainly aren't above blatant self serving hypocrisy. No, the word was designed and defined this way as a way for TRP to reinforce its…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 12:22 PM
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Here is something I wrote before that can lay it out for you. The point of the red pill? It is not for male improvement. The point of the red pill is for men to reassure themselves that they've been right all along. It's about telling yourself that women behave in a formulaic way, that they essentially lack autonomy, and a systematic effort to dehumanize them. The red pill is based upon pseudoscience (alphas and betas) and it repeats its mantras until people believe them- like a cult. Its no coi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 08:28 PM
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why are you on this forum?? I am on this forum because in my opinion the red pill is a dangerous ideology that uses cult like indoctrination techniques to brainwash vulnerable and desperate people. Especially young men. I don't post to argue with people deepest into the rabbit hole, but to try to give solid well reasoned arguments that can help people on the fringes and change their mind. As for what caused this intensity of the M/F divide, I think it is a mixture of things. Is this due to weste…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 07:25 PM
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I suppose I would be what you would consider a "late bloomer". Super awkward in high school, I was a hot mess back in those days. To put just how bad I was into perspective, I thought guys who complained about the "friend zone" were full of shit... because I wished I had a friend. I started pulling together a bit in senior year of highschool. I made a friend (yay!), and started to get more involved with after school things like sports. For the last semester of my Senior year, I started dating a …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 03:31 PM
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Eh, while he is right. He still comes off as a tool. You expressed the sentiment in 2 sentences what he barely managed to convey in a massive block of text. Maybe he just doesn't understand the medium, but it feels clunky and snooty. Seriously, he has one sentence in that mess that I would keep; I'd like to keep it more casual in the event we don't enjoy one another's company neither of us will be obligated to sit through an awkward dinner. Everything else is gratuitous over explaining that bord…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:12 PM
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Hey baby, want to kill all humans?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:04 PM
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Am I the only person who noticed... this. Really? I also started working out in the last year and feel like I put a lot of effort into how I look where as maybe he doesn’t do the same. I watch what I eat but it seems he doesn’t really care about doing the same. It doesn’t bother me too much but sometimes I kind of feel like we don’t put in an equal amount of effort to look good for each other. Before you get all up in my grill about how "ThE bLuE pIlL aRe ThE rEaL bLaCk PiLl", here me out. 1) it…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 01:28 PM
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That doesn't make any sense, if you think about it for longer than two seconds. With a few exceptions, like the Mongols mentioned earlier, the dominant human civilizations were not the burly barbarian types. What lead to success in war were not things like "confidence, leadership, and rough features" individually. Rather it was discipline of soldiers, logistics of supply chains, and occasionally strategic brilliance of commanders. The average Roman Soldier was not any more "confident" or "rough …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 06:05 PM
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Do you base your historical knowledge on fantasy video games rated T for teen?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 05:36 PM
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Don't you know, Genghis Khan has so many living decedents because he was so alpha and women chose him. It couldn't possibly have been countless acts of what we would consider to be war crimes across the known world. darn those women and their... autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 03:07 PM
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You are just jealous of his Magnum Dong
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 12:55 PM
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You are correct that the skeptic position does not really hold the burden of proof, because it is an attack on another argument. Generally this is true. I am skeptical of the red pill, so I can attack the premises that it is based on, and I can attack the validness of the arguments they are making. The burden is on TRP to show that their premises are factually true (they fail) and that their logic flows from the premises to the conclusions (they fail at this too). But you need to be careful not …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 03:26 PM
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​ People who generalize about women liking sex less are talking from their own limited experience Yes, they do. And I call them out on their shit. They are making an unsound (and often invalid) argument (because we cannot verify whether the premises are true), and they should be called out on it. But the Red Pill making bad arguments doesn't make it an acceptable thing to do for people who hold a modicum of intellectual integrity. ​ I am as well forming my own views from my own anecdotal evidenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:50 PM
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Hello fellow Blue Piller. I feel like its only just, because I just wrote out a multi paragraph rant that criticized a red piller for substituting personal experience for arguments about how the world works. It is not a sound logical argument to base conclusions about how the world works on unverifiable personal anecdotes and experiences. This have not been my experience at all. Me (a man) and my (women) partners initiate sex about the same amount. Unverified anecdotal evidence is not something …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:52 PM
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You are looking at this from a very immature standpoint. So why does this happen in the first place? Is it possible to do what you want every day and be in a long-term relationship? The short answer is no. Whether you are a man or a woman. When you enter a relationship you are binding yourself to another human being. You voluntarily give up some of your freedom and autonomy and in exchange you have a partner who you can trust and share your life with. Your partner, ostensibly, will be doing the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 06:59 PM
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Yay. More open anti intellectual TRP disgust for science and the scientific process. The problem you run into when you decide that "studies are all flawed so I'm going to use my own ToTaLlY uNbIaSeD pErSoNaL oBsErVaTiOnS. Is that we have no idea whether or not what you are saying is accurate. Your own observations will be skewed by availability heuristics. check out this MSU study: https://msu.edu/~ema/803/Ch11-JDM/2/TverskyKahneman73.pdf The study asked respondents if there are more words in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 03:34 PM
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Feminism hasn't rotted anyone's brain. It's exposed a lot of rotten brains though. It has shown that just because someone is given a platform to speak doesn't mean they're worth listening to. No kidding man! I agree 100%. Something about feminism draws out the worst in people... like Sargon of Akkad, Tl;Dr, TRP, Gamergaters, etc, etc etc. Reactionary uneducated opinions get spouted out as fact as they decry and demonize women they take out of context and don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 02:04 PM
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So. One thing that is important to discuss is causation vs correlation. Just because two facts are correlated does not mean that their is a causal relationship between them. For example, I could point to an article that examines the "fittest and fattest professions" (based on a study that surveyed 37,626 employed residents of the state of Washington using the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System every other year from 2003 through 2009) According to this, the top five fattest professions in…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 01:29 PM
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You are blowing things out of proportion. Lets say male attention is like coleslaw. You like coleslaw, it is good, you like eating it. But there is such a thing as too much coleslaw. You wouldn't want to eat an entire meal of coleslaw and at some point someone shoveling coleslaw onto your plate and not stopping it gets excessive. You might even be inclined to tell them to stop shoveling coleslaw onto your plate. At some point you might even feel the need to take a break from coleslaw for a minut…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 03:43 PM
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Black Pill are incels. At its core, the black pill is an existential ennui- a belief that doing anything is futile, that your station in life was determined at birth, and there is nothing for it but to lay down and rot. The black pill is the cyanide tablet that you keep under your tongue, it is about surrender and hopelessness. Incels idolize their own deaths, and their most popular memes are idolizing people who commit suicide (rope) or kill others to extract revenge (their saints). While most …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 01:30 PM
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Men are complimented as a general rule significantly less than woman. Its just a cultural thing. Because it is a rare occurrence men are not desensitized to recieving compliments and they love the attention because it inflates their ego. Women by comparison are frequently complimented. Often times by men who desire a relationship with them. Sometimes this relationship or attention is unwanted and it makes women feel uncomfortable. If men were exposed to the same volume of often unwanted attentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:59 PM
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D'oh!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 02:56 PM
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u/Taotedude wrote: So Hollywood Disney romance is correct?! Lmao... how can you align your beliefs with marketing giants that push product over truth? Why would you have this idea? I do actually have thoughts about problems with "Hollywood media"... they just aren't red pilled thoughts. Here is a write up I did 7 months ago on PPD if you are curious about those thoughts. The blue pill is a rejection of the red pill, it is not a unified philosophy that does not think critically about the world ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 08:25 PM
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Do you actually read posts by Blue flaired users? We may not be common here. But the only arguments leveled against me from red pillers are the same tired mantras, exaggerated fear mongering hyperbole, and a slew of logical fallacies and bad faith debate tactics. Occasionally if I'm lucky I'll take an ad hominem attack here or there because people think I'm ashamed of the things I like. The red pill is a mess, telling yourself you have facts and logic is a lie you use to sleep at night. Facts do…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:21 PM
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I’m 18 and this generation and relationships are not similar to most millennial relationships due to the technological changes. But, that doesn’t need more explanation. Come on man. How different do you think millenial relationships are now, and were in the past. What do you honestly think goddamn 2008 was actually like? We had online dating, we had tinder, we had social media, we had cellphones. Is Discord really that fundamentally different from AIM or mIRC or other online chat rooms? I suppos…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:04 PM
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Uncle Rico has entered the chat!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 02:51 PM
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I think the most depressing people of all are those who peaked in high school... I just feel so bad for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 02:46 PM
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I am solidly in the millennial generation. Mid 30s now. I think you are reading too much into "pair bonding". Even if pair bonding can change the odds of a relationship being successful by a point or two, you are still better off doing what makes you happy rather than trying to play a numbers game. Moreover, there are actually serious risks associated with dating low n-count women. A lesson that I have learned the hard way. I dated a woman with an n-count of about 2-3... after 2 years of a relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 02:41 PM
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If you clicked on the article, you would see that they also expanded the query to cover all left wing radical violence. When the label was broadened from anti-fascists to left-wing violence, it found 21 victims had been killed since 2010, compared to 117 in right-wing violence in the same time period. 21 is a far cry from 117. Also you should be careful with talking about the Dayton shooter. It has been pretty solidly discovered that his views on women likely played a much larger role in his sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:59 PM
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why wouldn't I date a woman with a high notch count? I've found in my life that I simply have better sexual chemistry with women who are more open about sex and sexuality. Are you telling me I should avoid relationships with women I have good sexual chemistry with because I'm too insecure to handle the fact that they may have slept with people before me? TRP is filled with such special snowflakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:46 PM
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We are talking about demographic overlap and similarities in ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 04:35 PM
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May my reign be long and prosperous and my rule fair and just.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 02:38 PM
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Give me a break H.P. Lovecel Maybe women wouldn't be so scary to you if you didn't appear to believe that there "is an unknowable eldritch horror lurking in the depths of their gibbous eyes that drives men to madness and despair." This isn't Innsmouth, and your description of the 1000 cock stare is no more than ridiculous hyperbole that you tell yourself to sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 02:28 PM
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come on man. Those arguments may work in your echo chambers... but not to a rational person? 1,000 cock stare? really? Your entire world view is based on fear, insecurity, and hyperbole. We can't have a rational argument if your foundational beliefs are not rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 02:17 PM
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Not really. This is just you fearmongering and making a plea to insecurity. Only someone insecure in their own masculinity would be afraid of a woman who has had more partners in the past. I would propose that this insecurity comes from a subconscious desire to compare oneself to others that a woman has been with, and a subconscious fear that they won't measure up. In part it is connected to an irrational belief that everyone must be ranked into some sort of hierarchy and it would crush their sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 02:05 PM
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lets look at this through a more useful lens. What, in your opinion is the "basic foundation" of relationships between men and women, and why do you think sex work undermines that basic foundation. I would posit as a counter point that the "basic foundation" of relationships between men and women are communication, trust, and boundaries. None of which are "destroyed" by sexual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 01:48 PM
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You... um... have a citation for that catastrophic claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 01:32 PM
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fascism. Now before you call me crazy. Hear me out. Incels are a party of a greater "red pill" worldview. The "red pill" is not only shared by the manosphere, but also other far right groups, including neo nazis, white nationalists/supremacists, etc etc etc. All of these movements tend to have a much higher degree of radicalization than comparable left wing spaces. Since 1994 right wing extremists have killed 339 people while antifa has killed.... 0. DHS has drafted a document that White Suprema…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 01:32 PM
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Your post is just baseless speculation and catastrophizing. Anyway, why do you hate capitalism so much? Its just supply and demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 01:19 PM
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The community. The Incel community as it has formed is a toxic echo chamber that radicalizes members. Incel spaces freely joke about mass murder and suicide on an almost daily basis, and self identified incels are largely completely desensitized to idolizing mass shooters and fanatasizing about their own death. The problem isn't with the individual man who can't get it in. The problem is when you have an entire misogynistic hate mob community that weaponizes that normal frustration and turns it …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 12:41 PM
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You can sit around and play logical fallacy football like a dork all you want, it doesn't change the reality. I may be a dork, but if you can't stumble through an argument without making logical fallacies... maybe you shouldn't be on a debate sub. EDIT: Also the logical fallacy ref memes make me really happy inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 02:07 PM
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You do realize that you are just making a No True Scotsman Fallacy right? You are excluding from the definition of MGTOW all people who identify on reddit as MGTOW, because they aren't "true" MGTOW. There is absolutely a MGTOW community. Communities form around philosophies, movements, and identities. Whatever you want to call it. There is a Trans community on reddit, but just because someone is trans doesn't mean that they are necessarily participate in that online community, but that community…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 01:56 PM
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Can you please tell that to every single red pill poster on here? I just kind of thought that arguing exclusively through hyperbole was how things were done around these parts. OP isn't wrong either. Significantly more men on average neglect their appearance compared to women. That doesn't mean that all men neglect their appearance, nor does it mean you neglect your appearance. But it honestly wouldn't surprise me if a dude went out for the day in a cum stained T-Shirt. I've been to a MTG tourna…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 01:50 PM
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Generally its encouraged. Society at large celebrates people being more independent. People are criticized for having no personality outside of their significant other, and people are told that they need to love themselves before they can love someone else. Pursuing a career instead of a traditional house and family is a valid and respectable choice for both men and women. The problem with MGTOW, as eloquently noted above, is that it is an unobjectionable premise that is used to paper over a rab…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 01:32 PM
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You can go to the gender-critical (not anymore) subreddit and see 60,000 self proclaimed feminists declare that all men are secretly pedophiles, that all forms of male sexual attraction inherently seek to subjugate women, and that trans-women are just men who are trying to infiltrate female spaces because well that's what you would expect a group consisting primarily of natural sexual predators to do. You could go to rad-fem subs and see alot of these beliefs repeated (minus the belief about tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 03:09 PM
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Innuendo Studios did a really interesting video on this recently. He raises some really interesting points as well- especially about knee jerk reactionary responses and overuse of the term "cuckold".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 12:29 PM
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Didn't this register even a bit of incoherence with you? İf you look through the manosphere, and the mass of feminist discourse. İ would argue that you will find alot more diversity of opinion within the manosphere than you would find within feminism. İf you really didn't register any incoherence, i would argue that might be an indication of how much in-group bias you have accumulated. So I have a few issues here. This was a post talking about feminism specifically, not about the manosphere itse…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 12:22 PM
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First and foremost. It wouldn't surprise me that TRP brainwashed you. It is quite literally a misogynistic hate cult that uses repeated mantras to indoctrinate depressed men into increasingly extremist views. BUT that is neither here nor there. PPD is a debate sub where people can talk about for TRP or against TRP. I personally argue against it because I want to show people that if they think critically they will realize that TRP is all empty promises and pseudo science. What PPD is not, however…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 03:56 PM
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Now we are moving somewhere. You have cited a second wave feminist, Friedan. As well as a book. The "Feminine Mystique". Unfortunately your citation and name drop don't do much for us. You haven't explained how feminism has changed or evolved from second to third wave... in order to do that you would need to contrast the ideas presented in Feminine Mistique with a third wave feminist theory, like Judith Butler or Rebecca Walker. Moreover, you haven't addressed your theory as to why the theory in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 01:50 PM
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Again, what feminist authors have you read to form your opinion? How can you speak definitively about feminism if you haven't read any feminist theory?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 01:40 PM
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Feminism isn't a product that is bought or sold. Its a movement pushing for rights and advocating for women. Why do you have to construct everything as a contractual give and take? Do you believe that the "civil rights act" was "sold" to white people that they would benefit from granting African Americans basic human rights? That is a ridiculous take. How did feminism evolve? What is third wave feminism to you? What does it mean? What third wave feminism did you read that makes you feel that it …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 01:31 PM
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I am not a scholar on feminism. So I'll defer to people a bit more versed than myself on this topic. But the idea of "blue pilled" feminism is pretty bad. You ultimately should be talking about it in waves. Which you kind of do understand as you put "3rd wave" feminism in quotes in the bottom there. Nevertheless... I don't think you are an expert on feminism either, as you don't seem to have a very clear understanding of what feminist's goals were or the theories they operated under. If you were…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 01:20 PM
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I know it, you know it. I will say that your honesty is refreshing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 09:33 PM
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I suspected your post was made in bad faith. You've just confirmed it. You see. You don't have an argument against the very plain fact that you very clearly indicated that only legal changes are valid. In fact, your only defense to my arguments was to agree with me and try to portray me as misrepresenting you. Aggressively moderating your initial position into something easier to defend. The fact that you recognize this, but refuse to take the very easy out to clarify the language in your origin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 09:17 PM
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Come on man. Are you really going to sit here with a straight face and tell me that? That you aren't saying its not worth doing? all you're doing is preaching to the choir aka all you're doing is [presenting an argument to people who already agree with it] This fundamentally implies that doing anything other than criminalizing it will not make a difference. Please argue in good faith. We can all read what you wrote, and most people on these forums know how the english language is used. There is …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 09:04 PM
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Can you point me to where I said that it shouldn't be fought on the basis of social norms? Sure. The real (and only remotely reliable) protection comes from the law. You want power differential sex or drunk sex or manipulation or lewd comments to count as rape or assault or harassment? Go fight to make it a crime. Otherwise all you're doing is preaching to the converted. Essentially, you are saying that only making something a crime can have a real impact, the implication there is that anything …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 08:47 PM
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The poisoned MnMs example isn't really relevant to what I was saying. Spreading awareness of an issue has a beneficial impact on society. A better society is preferable to a worse one, and awareness can help make the community a safer and better place. Moreover, because we don't have a choice but to live in society, we all have to eat from this bowl and cannot choose to simply abstain. So making it safer to eat from is a good thing, even if a 100% solution isn't possible. I would also emphasize …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 08:28 PM
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I've noticed this trend a lot on PPD. People trying to use a legal / moral conflagration or essentially arguing that we should only care about whether something is legal or illegal. It is sort of this strange amoral take that is used to try to shut down discourse over whether something is right or wrong, or whether some non legal action should be taken. The real (and only remotely reliable) protection comes from the law. You want power differential sex or drunk sex or manipulation or lewd commen…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 08:15 PM
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Eh, hard to say without being able to dip my webbed toes into the pool of your social and online presence whether or not the movement is going to far is difficult to pin point. To me, Body Positivity is about self acceptance and being happy with your body. At its core, it is something that is beneficial to both men and women, and honestly it should be embraced across the board without respect to political spectrum. It's almost like this movement is calling to stop caring for yourself because you…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:46 PM
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All of the above?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 12:58 PM
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Ah yes. It wouldn't be purple pill debate if I wasn't expected to take obvious hyperbole as immutable truth and argue for or against it. Seriously. There is no substance to this post- its just opinion and hyperbole about individual Twitter users. I guess i could throw in a snide remark how trad con men are all a bunch of hicks so who else would the women date... but that just seems so... gauche.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:36 PM
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Its also a misrepresentation. I only asked him to think critically and logically about his own beliefs https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/idorca/transgenderism_what_causes_it_is_it_bad_for/g2bmnla?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 You can read through our exchange. And reach your own conclusion. He deleted all of his posts for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 11:14 AM
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That doesn't really matter though does it. MGTOW is ultimately responsible for allowing itself to become infested with Incels, and it certainly doesn't try very hard to maintain its "original positions". Either way. People can still criticize the MGTOW movement based on what it is now. Just because it may have been better in the past doesn't vindicate it in any way. Moreover. Hatred on MGTOW has been present for years. If anything, an influx of incel refugees merely made it even more toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:40 PM
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In order to understand this article, one first has to understand the reason why people criticize MGTOW. MGTOW often likes to portray and propagandize itself as being "about men going off and living their best lives and how they don't need women to be happy". There isn't anything objectionable about that ideology. Indeed if that was what MGTOW really was, it would be largely compared to people living an asexual lifestyle, or taking a vow of celibacy for religious reasons. The problem is that whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:20 PM
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This is a wonderful example of how your advise is right (don't confront) but your reasoning is really bad and rooted in rampant biased hatred. The problem with confrontation, whether you are a man or a woman, is that in that moment emotions are too high (because you have just been hurt), and you realistically aren't going to find closure and more often than not there isn't any way to bring the relationship back from the grave. Generally speaking, cheating is a mortal wound in a relationship, it …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:21 PM
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So I would raise a few counter points to challenge your views. First getting this out of the way; I believe men harbor a deep resentment toward women because we inherently control the supply of the one thing they want most. The obvious flaw in your reasoning, as several others have pointed out, notably /u/flamingoinghome, it cannot explain gay men because they do not desire women in that way. It is also plainly obvious that a gay man can be misogynist, and since your post title details all men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 06:05 PM
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I think you've proven my point better than I could have hoped. Read through your response. It is an absolute refusal to even consider any of the arguments I have raised. Slow down for a second and lets break down some of the things you have said. When I suggest that we should all be introspective from time to time and examine our feelings, you respond with this; It’s rather presumptuous of you to think that I don’t do this already. Is it presumptuous though? Is it possible it is a direct respons…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:35 PM
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You should always think critically about the things that you feel. The questions "Why do I feel this way" and "Is it rational to feel this way" are integral parts of maturity and coming to a deeper understanding of ourselves and growing up. We should all be introspective from time to time and examine our feelings. I suggest you think critically because I don't think you can rule out the possibility of feeling attraction towards a passing trans women on the street who is minding her own business.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 02:37 PM
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I would never be attracted to a trans person and this seems to be almost universal among RP guys. A trans woman is a different category from a woman. I’m only attracted to women. I have a question for you. Have you ever looked at a woman on a magazine cover and thought, "wow she is attractive"? Or looked at an actress on TV and had similar thoughts? Probably. But... I thought you are attracted to woman, not parchment or paper... or your LED monitor. My point is that you are attracted to the imag…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 01:24 PM
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I know that you are inviting us all to be armchair psychologists and try to draw comparisons with the common definition of SIMP, but armchair psychology is a really bad idea, and being psychoanalyzed by a bunch of people with no degrees and lisences who know nothing about you other than that your mother was overbearing and abusive is asking for a bunch of crazy misdiagnosis and weird shit from us. If you are concerned about the impact of your mother on your life, you should see a therapist and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 12:29 PM
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Why be a loser? Because most people aren't sociopaths. There are limits to persuasion. If you are a sociopath who believes in getting what they want by any means necessary and treating other people as merely tools to be taken advantage of... We have what I am going to call a foundational difference of opinions. Your baseline of morality is so different from mine that we will never see eye to eye when we build on that foundation to create arguments. I cannot persuade you that emotional abuse is b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 04:20 PM
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If they criminalized emotional abuse, everyone would just be stuck in court all day. This is completely off topic and irrelevant. The question was "nothing wrong" I emphasize again, for clarity. You are trying to shift to "criminalization", but just because something is legal or technically legal doesn't mean it must be good. Moreover. Your push to normalize abuse and turn it into a "competition" that someone "wins"... is deeply disturbing. So I'm not going to engage it, but I want to point out …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 04:09 PM
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So... is your strategy here to be purposefully ignorant / gas lighting to deny that emotional abuse even exists? There are a lot of really good articles explaining what emotional abuse is and how to recognize it and some patterns. verywellmind: What is emotional abuse? PsychologyToday: When is it emotional abuse? Lets step back for a second, and take gender and sex out of the equation. Lets say your buddy, we'll call him Chet, calls you up and wants to play League of Legends with you. You say, Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 03:29 PM
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Are you... uh are you sure that this is the hill you want to die on? Okay, so this is the title of your post. I want to point something out to you. There is nothing wrong with obtaining sex by repeated requests, guilting, threatening break-up, etc. Anything short of ignoring someone's clear refusal or obtaining compliance by threats of violence is fair game. Now lets get this out of the way right off the bat. I've emphasized the words nothing wrong. Because they are somewhat central to your poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 03:01 PM
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The thing with posting studies is it shows at least a desire to look at the scientific process and see whether other people have worked on it. The thing with studies is that when someone posts one, we can talk about the study. We can post other studies that disagree with it, we can show why those other studies should be given more authority. We can talk about flaws in the sample size, or the methodology, etc etc etc. At least we are talking about these things with some reference to data. Without…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:54 PM
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Unpopular opinion time. Overall I liked online dating. Why would you choose a partner, you know nothing about, that isn't even especially attractive to you? This isn't really an accurate representation though. You don't choose a partner based on a dating profile. You meet someone based on a dating profile. I am... well I am aggressively average in the ol' looks department. But when I was using online dating regularly I would still get dates. Some of these dates I had a lot of chemistry with girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:10 PM
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You should learn history. But i warn you there is a lot of nuance when we talk about a history as rich as Romes. The Empire was split into east and west for administration purposes. Constantine moved the capitol to a more central location, and Rome never regained its supremacy from that point. The Western Empire did not crumble until 100 years or so after Constantine and at the time Rome was sacked in the 400s it was not even the capitol of the Western Empire. At most Rome held symbolic value. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:56 PM
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It is an awful argument. These are the same "history experts" who believe degeneracy was the cause for the fall of Rome, and then "forget" that the Eastern Roman Empire continued on for another 1000 years or so, from the capitol city that was founded by the first Christian emperor of the Roman Empire. If you actually care about history, you can see the white washed proto-fascist drivel these types spout out from a mile away.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:44 PM
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Some of it is about fear. There is a colorful history of some of the most vocal homophobic legislators being gay themselves. This article is a fun romp. For these vocal opponents it comes down to shame. They are ashamed of who they are, and because of their shame and fixation on the issue that they are ashamed of, they try to battle against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:41 PM
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Whereas as I’ve said repeatedly, you won’t call out your pedophiles, murderers, and rapists. Cuz agenda. You need to stop drinking the Koolaide. Because while "both sides" do bad things... only the left holds themselves accountable. Republican President Donald Trump publicaly admits to sexually assaulting women) and there is no real backlash from his party. In 2017, Republicans ran a pedophile in an Alabama Senate race, and were powerless to stop it from happening. On the other side of the aisle…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 06:28 PM
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I repeat and reiterate. Of course you can point to a few specific instances of people abusing the system, and if you do that exclusively you can make it appear as though its a widespread problem. That is called availability heuristics, its why studies are important when forming opinions. At the end of the day, this is all the proof anyone needs that TRP is anti science and anti critical thinking. I don't need to cite evidence Its a dogmatic refusal to even consider evidence when making arguments…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 04:19 PM
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This is a lot of words, in two parts... for you to say absolutely nothing and cite to no evidence. Most of which are just ad hominem attacks against myself or feminists. I would recommend you take a deep breath and re-examine some of your positions and think logically and rationally instead of just impotently lashing out. A few things I've noticed from reading through your post. You cite absolutely no evidence for any of your claims. This is important when you accuse me of "not understanding how…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:41 PM
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There is quite a bit wrong with your post. Anyway, its good to see you again Strawman. We’re in a time period where women are out right encouraged to lie about rape, harassment, and everything else, for a temp SMV boost and for petty revenge, and occasionally real issues (< 1% of the time). First, this is patently wrong. Women aren't being encouraged to lie about these things. They are encouraged to come forward. While I will not argue with you that occasionally a woman has lied about rape or ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 01:00 PM
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Of course that's your point. Because it has to be. Or you'll start realizing we're right. This post is a lot more telling that it initially appears. Are you telling me that in order to "realize TRP is right" I would have to be hypocritical and irrational? Or are you telling me that men are entitled to other people's bodies? Either way... I don't think its a great argument for TRP...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 02:22 PM
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It would be a massive betrayal if he was to dump me at this point. If he didn't want to marry me, he should have broke up with me a long time ago. He knows I want a husband. All of this may be true- it would be a massive betrayal if he did these things... but that still doesn't give you an entitlement to his body in the future... relationships aren't transactional in that way. If anything it just makes it suck more when they are ripped out from under you. I still remember years ago when my law s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:50 PM
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except... that is off topic. We are talking about the idea that a man feels he was denied her youth and prime This implies a level of resentment that an older woman is interested in him because she didn't bang him when she was 18-24. We aren't talking about whether or not a man wants a woman who is 18-24. They can want whoever they please. They are also free to exclusively pursue women in this age bracket if they so choose. And those women they pursue have the same freedom to accept or reject th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:41 PM
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I agree with Slyfer here. It also seems like you are internalizing some of these problematic concepts of "prime". /u/princessangelbaby_ posted If we're talking about me, my prime is almost over, I turn 26 in two months Why would you think your "prime" is ending in 2 months? What is it about 26 that would make you past your "prime"? Why do you think your star is already waning? Moreover, why do you assume your SO isn't already in his prime and its all downhill for him from there? Do you have an e…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:27 PM
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...yea. Obviously. Nobody is entitled to any other person. That is literally how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:56 PM
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In order to believe that you have been "denied her youth and prime"... you must also think that you have some sort of right to a woman's "youth or prime". This is... well its inherently creepy. If I'm attracted to someone, I am attracted to them now, for who they are today and the idea of who they will be in the future. To the extent the past matters, it is merely a collection of contributing factors that created the person I am attracted to now. I don't like who I was at 18... quite frankly it …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:46 PM
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I've posted similar concepts before, but everybody reads too much into the divorce rate. The divorce rate in and of itself does not tell us anything about why divorces are happening. In order to do that, you would need to look at a breakdown of why the person initiated a divorce. FOR INSTANCE If a woman initiates a divorce with her husband... because she caught him cheating. We should, rationally, hold the husband at fault for the divorce. It was his dailiances which caused a breakdown of the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 08:13 PM
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Look mate. Here is the deal. I shouldn't need to spell this out for you. Niceness and meaness are not sexual strategies. If you are a "super nice guy" that is not a quality that you should expect to get laid from. Likewise, if you are a "super mean guy" that is also not a quality that you should expect to get laid from. To the extent a sexual strategy exists, it is independent from these things- looks, charisma, connections, etc. Your dating strategy and success / failure is an independent varia…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 10:05 PM
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At the end of the day, the only person I have to sleep with at night is myself. So I better make sure that no matter what, I can sleep with myself at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 08:44 PM
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First, no one said anything about lying. Telling someone that "they are great and will find love eventually" is not a lie by any conventional stretch of the word. At most its an empty platitude. Fear is also such a strong word isn't it? Its difficult to put into context because on its own it has very powerful implications such as a "afraid for my life" but on the other hand it can easily be applied to trivial situations such as "afraid that I put too much salt in my tart". Ultimately I think fea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 06:21 PM
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Please. Step 1) exaggerate the point being made into a straw man. Step 2) dismiss the exaggerated straw man as ridiculous. Step 3) take the point out of context. Its just standard tactics to deny an uncomfortable truth without engaging in it. There are a lot of studies that show that aggression is a reaction that men have to sexual rejection and more specifically a connection with pride or honor beliefs. NCBI: Predicting Men's Immediate Reactions to a Simulated Date's Sexual Rejection NCBI: Cult…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 03:28 PM
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There was a thread earlier this year which asked this question in a much more abrasive way. Essentially asking if women lie about what they want, as opposed to merely give bad advise. There were a few good points brought up that bear mentioning. You have to consider who you are asking. - If you are asking family, such as your mum or your sis. Chances are they simply don't have enough information to see what you are doing wrong. Family also often has this whole unconditional platonic (hopefully) …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 01:19 PM
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My point is that it is irrelevant whether they are nice or not. The point is that they believe themselves to be a "nice guy" and that because of that they deserve a specific woman's attention. They would feel this way whether or not they "stopped being nice". Like I said, I can even find examples of people who have cheated on their significant other getting called out after posting online "about how they are single because girls don't like nice guys" The attitude of entitlement goes beyond merel…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:08 PM
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What I disagree with in this post, is that being a Nice Guytm is about attitude more than any other factor. So I disagree with each of your posts that self proclaimed nice guys are usually [X] When someone complains about a Nice Guytm they are calling out a specific manipulation technique. The core of it is that they deserve to date someone because they are better than other men. It is a question of entitlement. "I am entitled to date because [X]". Usually [X] is defined as "niceness" but I have…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:44 PM
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Then why are you defending the Bell Curve- which is garbage science?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:06 PM
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I just have to laugh about all the times I've been gaslit on ppd by people telling me that Red Pill here isn't alt right. I'm sure Smoogs2 is ToTaLlY nOt aLt RiGhT, its just he is a rAcE rEaLiSt.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:40 PM
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Bad analysis. If someone has bipolar, they should seek treatment for bipolar. They should see a medical professional, seek treatment in a healthy and controlled way. What someone with bipolar should not do is to refuse any form of treatment whatsoever, and actively encourage other bipolar individuals to do the same, and actively work to inspire hatred against the rest of society. Do you see the difference? Incels aren't demonized because they are sexess or because they need help. They do and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:31 PM
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Incels are a toxic ideology and their kind shouldn't be welcome here. This place will be better without them. Incels is a thought spiral ideology that at its heart catastrophizes issues. Men who try to do the same thing, and who lament that it's a problem causing the mass depression of men in our society? Ew, gross, a man expressing his feelings! Totally taboo! You are wrong. Incels don't offer what you are saying they offer. If anything, most of the actual progressive stances on Mens Rights hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 11:11 PM
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This seems like it could be handled with a more effective moderating of CMV posts. Holding top level comments to task as to whether they are actually trying to change OP's view. That way if someone does try to start an FDS circle jerk, it would fail unless people put forward actual top level comments defending it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 07:01 PM
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TERFs are a really bad example for this sub. Because this sub only talks about a very specific "red pill". We all know that a person can be "red pilled" on a variety of topics, leading inevitably to neo-nazis and "the Jewish Question". This sub, defines "red pilled" solely as it relates to men and women in the dating world and relationships between the sexes because they are trying to avoid that association with the ol' nazis. So when you talk about TERFs being "red pilled" you are operating out…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 02:21 PM
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Goalposts moving in action /u/akaean wrote: completely irrelevant anecdotal evidence at best ... Why is your story irrelevant? We are on the internet and it is impossible to verify whether any individual poster's story is true or not. So any story from anecdotal evidence must be irrelevant because it is unverifiable evidence. Unverifiable evidence cannot be relevant to a debate. ... We, sitting here, cannot prove your statement either true or false. So essentially it is meaningless and irrelevan…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 09:01 PM
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I don't really care if you like my experience, or don't, it doesn't matter. Whether you believe me or not does not make the statement untrue. The only way you can prove this statement wrong, is by proving the experience didn't happen, which you've stated over and over again you cannot do. YES! You got it. This is the point I was making all along... you can't prove that it happened either. Whether or not you believe me or not does not make the statement true. The only way you can prove this state…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:09 PM
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You seem to have a few concerns. Maybe I can explain them to you. And yet you consider yours relevant and mine not. It cuts both ways (as I both showed and stated... again this failure to read thing is cropping up). This is resolved merely by looking contextually at the substance of both posts. There are several key differences here. Most importantly is the role the anecdotal evidence played in the analysis. Your entire argument is supported by a single anecdotal story. The anecdotal evidence I …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 06:37 PM
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and... case in point. Even after painstakingly addressing each way you failed to actually address my argument, and instead tried to distract. Rather than providing good faith arguments in your position you have double downed on the fallacies outlined above. Why is your story irrelevant? We are on the internet and it is impossible to verify whether any individual poster's story is true or not. So any story from anecdotal evidence must be irrelevant because it is unverifiable evidence. Unverifiabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 05:18 PM
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This post does a really good job of illustrating many of the logical failings that red pill posters use. Lets dig in shall we! aggressively arguing semantics to distract from the merits of a case and maintain the illusion of a dominant position. I don't think you understand the meaning of the word irrelevant. One instance may not prove the rule, but it is hardly irrelevant. This is a great example of what I am talking about. You are choosing to pick a fight about the definition of the word "irre…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 03:54 PM
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I usually use my eyes to see women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 03:15 PM
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Act the way you want to act in a relationship. When I am looking for an LTR, personally I am looking for a partner who will be with me through thick and thin. A necessary part of that is sharing some of my burdens, personal anxieties / insecurities, etc. with her. If she "loses attractiveness" to me because I am a human with issues, then she isn't the woman I want to be in an LTR with. There are other girls out there and I'll find a girl who is more compatible with what my needs are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 03:10 PM
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That was a fun LARP. But its completely irrelevant anecdotal evidence at best and one person's anecdotal evidence cannot be used to prove a universal rule such as TRP. Your post doesn't even make sense. Even if we accept your premise and everything you typed as true, all you have is established that women like it when you dominated other men. You made the jump to arguing that you have to "treat someone you loved poorly"... which doesn't make any sense because you jump from your story about man v…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 02:37 PM
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There is a ton wrong with this post... and yes... you are homophobic. ​ Autogynephilia comes as a consequence of this, because men have an inherent revulsion towards being feminine You should probably provide a source on this. Autogynephilia has a specific definition and meaning as a collection of theories that make a very specific hypothesis, as such, when you use that word in an argument it is best to be cognizant of what those theories are and make sure you don't misrepresent them. When you l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 12:53 PM
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I'll let you in on a little secret. TRP is not a very accurate model of how the world or relationships or gender relationships work. In a lot of ways, TRP are like flat earthers or climate deniers. They try to sound scientific, and they make statements that at a very surface level might sound profound. But the justification for their beliefs are paper thin. You should get out of the RP while you still can. It can be tempting to have someone place all of the blame for your success onto women. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 05:27 PM
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What would it take to swallow the RP? I think a stroke or a closed head injury might do it. Basically if i lost the ability to think critically about the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 01:09 PM
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I don't care if you are a good or nice person or not. I don't care about whether you are or have ever been a "nice guy". I care about the substance of your arguments, which are used to justify and smokescreen for nice guys. You are not focusing on media portrayals and tropes about women that are problematic and why. You are focusing on justifying, rationalising and explaining the behavior of nice guys. My pointing out problems with the way you have structured your argument is not an attack on yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 09:36 PM
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This is a very good example of how "nice guys"and the defenders of "nice guys" always make sure to put themselves in the light of the victim. at all times. Its another manipulation tactic to say, I'm only bitter because I'm a victim, and nothing is ever portrayed as even possibly being their fault. By casting themselves as a perpetual victim a "nice guy" can deflect criticism of his toxic beliefs and attitudes by claiming oppression. ​ Because women and society told them that they're nicer than …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 08:42 PM
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Its about manipulation and weaponizing niceness. If someone is actually a nice person, they are nice for the sake of being nice and they don't necessarily expect anything in return. If my buddy's car gets stalled across town, I am going to drive over and give him a jump. Its the right thing to do. I don't also expect him to give me a blowy joey because i'm such a nice guy. I don't use my "niceness" to try to manipulate my friend into having gay sex with me... just as I wouldn't use my "niceness"…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:55 PM
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This post is just well... its wrong. The "nice guy" phenomena is at its core a proto-red pilled belief system that discredits women's choices, while at the same time justifying their own actions and emphasizing that there is nothing wrong with men like them. It has developed because men who identify as "nice guys" believe that they are entitled to a woman's body, or if they do not go that far they believe that women are making bad choices when they do not choose to date them. There are some fund…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 12:49 PM
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The problem is that the creator is portraying this as historical fact and is falling into the usual trap of defining "western" as only "judaeo-christian value" while ignoring all of the other influences on western thought. Moroever, as I point out in my top level post, he doesn't even get judaeo christian right either. The problem is that the creator is proposing a vastly oversimplified version of events that is... historically wrong. Pointing this out undermines his entire message. I suppose th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:50 PM
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How beautiful are today's love songs? I'll show you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 01:35 PM
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Are you somehow implying that Ancient and Classical Greek Philosophers, you know, like Plato and Aristotle and even Hippocrates, aren't relevant enough to consider western philosophy.... seriously??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 01:33 PM
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So... I'm not sure I agree entirely with this breakdown. Stage 1 - "The Value of Love" which occurred in biblical times. It encompassed an attitude that individuals had value because of God's love for them. Stage 2 - "The Power of Love" which occurred around the 4th century. It brought about the idea that an individual who loved god could become more divine. Stage 3 - "The Object of Love" which happened in the 11th century, where people began to bestow their divine love onto other individuals. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 01:20 PM
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I feel like we all internalize social standards to some degree. Recognizing those internalized beliefs and accepting that they can be harmful is a part of growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 04:15 AM
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Humans are a bit different because you can let go of them and still know their needs will probably be met in the future by someone else. Meh, you can let your cat go, and generally speaking it will be fine. Many people have outdoor cats that usually are just fine wander the mean streets of town. Its also possible that you can give your cat to someone, like a family member or friend who wants to adopt them. In that case you have "let go of them and still know there needs will probably be met in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 08:09 PM
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I always get wary trying to break comments like "love" and "true love" down to far, at some point we end up lost in a jungle of semantics. Its sort of like how the US Supreme Court tried to define pornography. I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it - Justice Stewart, Concurring, Jacobellis v Ohio, 378 US 184 (1964) Good …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:01 PM
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Its rare to meet someone so proud of being ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 09:41 PM
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Not what i said. Culture of what was socially acceptable since the 90s though..
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 08:55 PM
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One thing you have to make sure you do, when you read studies like this, is keep on eye on several factors. Look at the sample size, whether there are other variables at play, and compare them to the general population. There have been multiple studies on this type of issue... so its also worth looking at the studies performed in aggregate and seeing where their methodology is different etc. So lets take a closer look at the Teachman study. So first we should look at this. Using nationally repre…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 06:50 PM
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1) This whole post reeks of the appeal to nature fallacy. Just because something is "natural" doesn't mean it is good. So even if we accept that human mating process is "natural" we haven't established from there that it is morally good, etc. 2) Your arguments are horribly crafted as well. You use the examples of Birds of Paradise, Bowerbirds, Praying Mantis, and Giraffes. Seemingly a random assortment of animals. But there are other animals out there that don't conveniently fit into your narrat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 05:03 PM
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Aztec more because they were conquered they folded faster than any plains Indian groups because they were infact more decadent sex and blood cultists Its hot takes like this that make it very difficult to take you seriously. The Aztec empire folded faster because they were a more traditional opponent. Their population was more centralized into cities, which means it was more densely packed. As a result they were more vulnerable to disease than more nomadic tribes who were more isolated from each…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 03:30 PM
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In terms of relationships? My parents are hilariously terrible at them. They were terrible in a relationship with each other and divorced when I was 18. After they divorced they get along 100% better. My mom basically retired from the dating game, and my dad quickly entered into another long term relationship (because he can't handle being alone) with someone whose main qualities are sharing his love for gambling and being a reliable designated drive so he could get blasted on wine (while at the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 02:56 PM
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Case in point!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 02:09 PM
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I'm going to disagree with you on this front, I propose that the person who cares more has more power. And since this goes against common knowledge I'll show a bit of work on it. For the purpose of this debate I am going to use this definition of Power the capacity or ability to direct or influence the behavior of others or the course of events. In my opinion this is a good definition to use in the context of a relationship. If anyone thinks a different definition of power should be used, let me…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 01:46 PM
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Dunno if you can consider the Byzantine Empire that great. When the centuries of your rule are called the "dark ages" it isn't so flattering. I blame a poor education system for ignorant statements like this. It shows a really profound lack of understanding of what the Byzantine Empire was. First, the word Byzantine itself was only used starting in the 19th century. What you refer to as the Byzantine Empire was referred to as Rome by themselves, continuously, for its entire history and the capit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 08:19 PM
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This is some really poor understanding of history and society. You should read some books about history and come to a better understanding of the world. I am concerned that you are getting your historical knowledge from people like Stephen Molyneux or Sargon of Akkad, which is a horrible idea. There is a wealth of knowledge and information about Rome or other ancient empires that you can read about and get an idea. Part of how I know you don't really know history, is because you have boiled ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 07:33 PM
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the world is going through what every decadent civilization has gone through a huge breakdown I always forget that the Aztec empire collapsed because of feminism and not disease. I always forget that the Egyptian Empire declined because of feminism and not because they didn't have native access to iron. I always forget that Rome fell because of feminism and that is why the city was sacked in the 400s AD a few times. I also like to turn off my brain and forget that the Eastern Roman Empire surviv…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 06:47 PM
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Oh no... you are one of those people who claim that "the west is dying... because of feminism..." Before I know it, you'll be floundering on about how Marxism is somehow not western. Get out of here with those shitty alt right talking points. It matters due to biology and hundreds of thousands of years of evolutionary psychology. There are a lot of problems with evolutionary psychology, at least how it is used by... well mostly bigots... Here is a good article in Scientific American talking abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 06:07 PM
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I would tend to agree with you that it in large part comes with the extra grooming. Of course i don't have a source for that.... but... as a cultural bar, women invest significantly more time into their appearance. Hair styling, make up, body shaving, coordinated outfits, etc etc etc. These things take time, and generally that time is spent improving how someone looks. Men are not culturally pressured to the same degree to focus on grooming. Beards for instance, are a lot of work to make look go…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 03:29 PM
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Has it ever occurred to you that it only matters because of societal double standards, and maybe those societal double standards are wrong / should be challenged, etc? That those societal double standards are in fact being challenged and weakneing? Women's n-count matters significantly less than it did 20 years ago, I would imagine that it will matter even less as we barrel into the future and we will reach a point where women won't feel pressured to lie about their n-count and they won't be unf…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 11:56 AM
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I do not feel damaged. No. I do remember being anxious if it was ever going to happen for me. But i never felt like I "missed out" in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 01:24 PM
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She was a acquaintance from HS that I ran into at a college party and we hit it off. Just didn't go anywhere after. Sometimes it really do be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 02:41 AM
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One of the two ons actually. Edit. Most of my relationships have started from "ons". But after 3 months it wasnt really a ons...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 02:35 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 02:33 AM
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I don't think questions like this are accurate. People have a heavy incentive to lie on them, especially men. Let me give you an example. If a red pill leaning person posts a low "body count" they will immediatly open themselves up to accusations being held as evidence that TRP doesn't work. If a blue pill leaning person posts a low body count, they will be accused by red pillers of being beta cucks.... you get the idea. Nobody has an incentive to be honest, except ironically the incels who will…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 02:25 AM
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But how can your stand up to a balanced party with a tank, dps, and healer??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 11:11 PM
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Is it emasculating? No. Even if it is, I am sick of my masculinity being called into question and gatekept for any little nonconformity. You must be X strong or not man. You must like X things or not man. You must wear shorts X long or not man. You must sit X way or not man. You must know X about ABC or not man. Give me a break, I just want to live my life. Does it make you feel weak? No. Can it hurt your sexual attraction to a person? No. Could you ever be in a LTR with someone who could kick y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 07:40 PM
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I am always hesitant to look at the messaging patterns of women on Online Dating sites, it would be far more relevant to look at women's response percentages. The issue with looking at how frequently women message, is that it really goes against the overarching culture on these websites. Men generally are sending messages and women are sorting through the massive inbox backlogs. When a woman actually sends a message it is a much rarer occurrence. ​ Nearly all women (98%) received at least one me…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:28 PM
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Whenever I read an incel rant, the problem identified is without fail, with women. It shows a fundamental unwillingness to take responsibility for their own actions. Can a woman have unreasonable expectations in dating? sure. Can a woman be more or less attractive? sure. Can a man have unreasonable expectations in dating? sure. Can a man be more or less attractive? sure. The problem is that Incels never analyze the second two questions, because they require introspection. It is invariably framed…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 01:21 PM
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My reason for not drinking is I just don’t like the taste nor the calories. Sadly, I have a body that likes to hold onto fat, so I am very strict with my diet and count every calorie. I’ve explained this to anyone I try to form relationships with and it always back fires. The reason for this, is because people are afraid of introspection. When you say you don't drink, it prompts the question "if they are right, what does that say about me?" It makes people feel defensive, and they perceive your …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 01:04 PM
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While I agree that ultimately some of this comes down to personal responsibility, its not fair to put everything on personal responsibility. One of the things that needs to change, especially in United States cities at least are accessibility of affordable healthy food, Food Deserts are a huge problem in many areas, especially urban or lower income areas in cities where large numbers of people just don't have easy access to a grocery store. Its all well and good to say; "People need to be big gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 08:10 PM
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PPD is not an advice sub. Goddamn
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 05:44 PM
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Incels / MGTOW: The dating market is unfair because women view the majority of men as unattractive. 80-20 rule, wah wah wah. Also Incels / MGTOW: The dating market is unfair because the majority of women are not attractive enough for me. wah wah wah. Its almost like y'all have fundamentally contradictory worldviews or something. I mean... how can you really not see the irony of the common complaint that women are too picky and only go for the top 20% of men, while at the same time posting rants …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 04:07 PM
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What blows my mind is how everything gets hamfistedly shoved into some strange "sexual marketplace" analysis. I don't get it. Also there is a lot of trans panic going around in this thread, its a smorgasbord of transphobes. Its kind of bizarre, and we've got everything from TERFs, to conspiracy theorists, its a trip. In addition to this, trans women somewhat more recently have been more encouraged and promoted as being okay, and even fetishized and desired more than cis women for a lot of men. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 02:48 PM
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It is my lived experience that some women required far more of me than others. I don't know what is so difficult about this. Whats your point? I said alpha / beta is pseudoscience. You said it was real science. You were challenged by /u/tnais and you ultimately agreed that alpha-beta isn't real. Now you are talking about something completely unrelated to alpha / beta about how some women in your personal experience have wanted more from you than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 06:00 PM
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it's all about the relationship. No man is alpha, no man is beta You uh... just admitted that the alpha / beta dichotomy is not real... It is just pseudoscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 05:38 PM
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We were having fun and you ruined it. This is why people can't stand MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:14 PM
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And? You haven't cited a source for that, and you have done nothing to show that even with underestimation and over estimation it would even close the 6% gap. American men are overwhelmingly overweight and obese all evidence points to this. Most men are not built like John Cena so BMI is still pretty accurate. You also haven't even addressed my other points. You can't just point to the "decline" of American women when American men are "declining" just as rapidly. We don't need MGTOW or TRP. We n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:11 PM
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Do you know if I can be eligible for both a patriarchy check and Soros Bucks? I've heard that they are mutually exclusive, but if I can get both that would help a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:02 PM
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I wish, do you know where I can sign up so they can send me a check? I could use some extra income.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:57 PM
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This is part of my problem with the arrogance of MGTOW. There is an obesity epidemic in America. I won't lie about that. But you seem to close your eyes and only look at women. I can't figure out why? You say there are no good women available for men, but don't ask the next question. Are the men good enough themselves to deserve them? Because apparently looking things up is "blue pilled", I popped on over to the National Institute of Health to see if they had any statistics. https://www.niddk.ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:55 PM
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The reality is their offerings are mostly obese women, tatted women, single moms, etc. This is hyperbole and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:22 PM
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Oh man, how disappointing. A MGTOW plug. I sigh at you. Anyway, I would argue that MGTOW cannot be separated from TRP, as it is the natural conclusion to the philosophy of failure that TRP adopts. MGTOW: Has all the same concepts of TRP for gender dynamics Tells men to optimize themselves but is REALISTIC about the legal ramifications of marriage, affirmative action, etc where it states men should "opt out" as much as possible due to being a rigged game Realistically admits most beta males won't…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:16 PM
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The bible didn't plan for the downfall of traditionalism What are you on about? Did you forget about the book of Revelation? One of the most well known parts of the entire Bible?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 08:44 PM
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I think those parts were in the Epistle of Roosh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 02:51 PM
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I think its more relevant to look at how people use religion in their arguments when making observations like this. For instance. If a Blue Piller identifies as christian, but does not invoke any religious arguments in opposition to the Red Pill, then we cannot say for certain that religion plays a role in this sense. On the other hand, if a Red Piller identifies as an aethist, but does invoke religious arguments in support of gender beliefs- such as via reference to "Judaeo-Christian values", w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 02:41 PM
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Since you guys have been browsing this forum for quite a time now, how have you come to accept this fact Bold of you to assume I've "come to accept this fact". What you are doing is a logical fallacy where you assume the question. As others in this thread have pointed out aptly, all of the data for the 80-20 rule comes from studies, generally of Tinder and OKC. However there are major flaws with this data. First, is that the culture of Tinder has developed specifically to make women more choosy,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 12:41 PM
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Exactly, there will be scammers, grifters and hucksters everywhere you go. You can always find a snake oil salesman. The real question is, why is the Red Pill such a fertile demographic for scammers compared to the general population or other interest groups...? Its almost like a culture founded on pseudo-science and repeating mantras attracts people with lower critical thinking skills. The Red Pill is a sales funnel for scammers, that serves to both identify and sell fraudulent services to pote…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:56 PM
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A few things here that make me think you don't really understand how to debate effectively. Maybe I can help you and we can open a real dialogue. If you are interested. What you have done here, is not an effective strategy for debate. When you use a source to support your position you need to identify the part of my post you disagree with explain why you disagree with my assertion link to relevant sources supporting your disagreement with my assertion. What you have done is worthless. What you h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:50 PM
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​ The point you are missing is that you don't need to prove that it works. Persuasion is irrelevant. If it works, for you, individually, then that's all that matters, for you, individually. This is Purple Pill Debate. A subreddit focused on debating between the Red Pill and the Blue Pill... and your debate strategy seems to be... throw all your cards on the table and say "you don't need proof"... I do not find this to be a compelling argument. Maybe a debate sub isn't right for you if you honest…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 08:11 PM
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Maybe you're not understanding because you think people have an obligation to not be hypocritical. At least you are honest. And you are right, there are no laws against hypocrisy. Just... you know... don't expect to be taken seriously or have your ideas treated with respect when you knowingly make hypocritical arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 04:10 PM
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You didn't quite read so good. I even bolded the part I was talking about for you. calling to question whether or not what women do is "good" which is inherently infringing on moral questions whether you want to or not. When I say it is a moral question, what I mean is a discussion about what is good or bad and why something is good or bad. We can have a discussion about morality and have different or similar ideas about what is good or bad. My point is that TRP has never been shy about dipping …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 04:04 PM
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Do you believe that TRP as a community kept a mask on when it identified itself as amoral? The red pill can't keep its story straight. It claims to be amoral, but that is a paper thin facade, because TRP posters constantly indulge themselves with morally charged language. it is women who especially excel at engaging in amoral behavior, because they're able to delude themselves that what they're doing is good and manufacture plausibly deniable justifications for it, but society has had a tendency…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 04:01 PM
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I can't even act or sing. That is what auto tune is for! Anyway, you can't sell your soul to the devil because apparently you actually have to know how to sing first.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 03:44 PM
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At least you are honest about not having an independent moral compass. Just because something isn't illegal doesn't mean it isn't immoral. Just you know, most Red Pillers try to keep the mask on because its not a good look to just admit that its an ideology for sociopaths... ​ Sociopathy refers to a pattern of antisocial behaviors and attitudes, including manipulation, deceit, aggression, and a lack of empathy for others. ... Sociopaths may or may not break the law, but by exploiting and manipul…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 03:35 PM
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As soon as the coast is clear its right back to discussions about how "women's decisions are invalid" Looks like I made a slight mistake! Sometimes Red leaning posters don't even wait until the coast is clear...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:56 PM
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And the mask drops
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:50 PM
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You do realize that what you just posted is verbatim stereotypical Nice Guytm drivel right? Please tell me that was satire...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:38 PM
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Redpill comes natural after making internal changes by accepting yourself So you have no moral qualms about lying to women while spinning plates? It comes natural to you to use manipulative emotionally abusive tactics and just say its DrEaD gAmE and sexual strategy is amoral? Is your independent thought that women are hypergamous and that therefore you shouldn't take their decisions seriously and it is okay to manipulate them? Get out of here. Its like you are purposefully ignoring what the prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:30 PM
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This post is propaganda and people shouldn't take it seriously. Although im over this cringy pill phase (BUT) I have never seen anyone begin a post like this in good faith. It is universally used proceeding blatant propaganda with the purpose of trying to get non red pill posters to lower their guard and engage in good faith. redpill strategies are still definitely the most effective to fuck a girl in my expierence. Good for you. Never mind that it is exceptionally difficult to argue against som…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 01:00 PM
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1)as a primal urge I want it and We all have primal urges. I have primal urges, the women I date have primal urges. The issue here is that sex is a two way street and it requires consent of both people. There is no such thing as a unilateral access to sex. Whenever I have sex it must be with a woman who consents to that sex and vice versa. There is nothing wrong with feeling a primal urge to have sex. The problem comes when people focus solely on that primal urge and start believing that other p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 08:36 PM
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What does that have to do with the price of tea in china? Should I interpret this as you trying to change the subject because you agree that my position is correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 07:00 PM
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Simping isn't really relevant here... because we are talking about primarily a Tinder experiment. Sure, OP leads off with an anecdote about an amateur instagram model... but the meat of the post is as follows. I made a Tinder profile of a cute girl, she had 45 likes in literally 3 minutes. 99+ in under 20 minutes. My male model profile had only about 30 likes in 24h. Why is there such a disparity in demand for sex? I'm starting to doubt that the gender ratio is roughly 1:1. Liking someone on Tin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 06:18 PM
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Also you conveniently ignored where I said there are many others studies that emphasize the importance of sex for overall well-being. I didn't ignore it. You did. If going off works including BUT NOT LIMITED TO Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs Maslow's Hierarchy of needs was the only one you mentioned. We cannot engage in a dialogue about studies if you don't list what they are. What if I read the "wrong studies" and you say "those weren't the studies I was talking about." If you want to talk about o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 05:51 PM
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Sure, you though some of the incels looked pleasant. But would you fuck any of them? Did sight of them make you wet and want to rip their clothes off? Well... no... but... buttttt I am a straight man so... pictures of other men don't really fill me with unrelenting primal desire. Hell, even if I were a gay man I doubt that incels would be interested in my opinion. Most incels will only ever be some used up slut’s plan C when she reaches middle age, turns into a prune and desperation sets in. We …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 05:44 PM
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So you basically just admitted that Sex is not a basic human need like food or water or shelter? Whoops! If it were, I don't think you'd be able to say "I'm not too interested in sex..." I doubt you would ever be in a position to say "I'm not too interested in having enough food to eat" or "I'm not too interested in having shelter from the rain". Also you do realize that Maslow's hierarchy of needs isn't exactly accepted modern psychology right, so using it to "prove" that sex is a basic need th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 05:33 PM
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Lets untangle this incel thought spiral shall we? They watch porn and think hot girls have wild sex with regular guys — they don’t. This is like someone who has never watched porn trying to describing to describe what it is based off an article they read about it in the newspaper. There is no indication that the men in porn by and large represent "the average male". Sure its a big genera, you could find an example or hundred, but I would argue that by and large the portrayal of men in porn is ei…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:24 PM
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Its not a purse, its a satchel
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 07:18 PM
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Do you really think that all the societal expectations that you think are "bad" were put there for completely illogical or bigot-fueled reasons, and simply need "fixing" as prescribed by people who think like you? This is too simplistic of course. I obviously I don't think that all societal expectations were put there for illogical or bigot-fueled reasons. But that is an extreme position. Certainly some societal expectations were put there for bigot-fueled reasons. Moreover, the times they are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 05:55 PM
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coughdreadgamecough
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 11:00 PM
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All of the current problems look like they were originally caused by someone trying to fix some societal problem. This is a weird hot take. Please go on though, how is telling men what they can and cannot like "caused by someone trying to fix some societal problem"? How is telling women how they need to look and act "caused by someone trying to fix some society problem"? Maybe you should just get over yourself and let others live their lives and not worry so much about people trying to make the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 03:07 PM
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You give me a break. Did you read the two sentences above that? Are the problems equally bad? I don't know, but it doesn't matter. We as a society should stop strictly enforcing gender roles and expectations on each other. Its not the exact same, but it doesn't matter who has it worse. This is not the oppression Olympics and I don't really care if men or women have it "worse". Both are problems and both need to be fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:51 PM
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​ As these movements say, all women are "real women". These movements are pushing for more acceptance, and they are right to do so... but their work is far from over and its too soon to uncork the Champaign and run a victory lap. There is still immense societal pressure placed on women, it just manifests in different ways. You can see effects of this pressure from the massively higher rates of eating disorders among girls and women as compared to boys and men, something like 3x-4x. https://www.n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:05 PM
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Not Gen Z, but like, maybe we should not just assume people are lazy because they don't want to date as much. Maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't value people based on their 'n-count' for better or for worse. EDIT: Much less an entire generation...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 01:13 PM
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When uh, you started arguing in a thread titled Why are biological differences not considered valid arguments? And then proceeded to argue that biological differences aren't arguments against paper abortions? Are we in the same thread together?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 07:53 PM
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Father has no say 1 Obviously. The technology is simply not there for the male to carry the child to term if the female doesn't want it. Maybe one day, but we aren't there yet. Father has no say 2 Neither does the woman. Both parties have no say in the obligation to care for the child once he/she is born. It just be like that- because if it weren't the case it would be an unreasonable burden on the state. Because not woman. Which is fine. Men will always find a way to buck the system if it compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 07:31 PM
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a woman that wants to keep the baby REGARDLESS of what the father wants. That is because the baby is inside her body and connected to her. The father is not carrying the baby. Both men and women have a financial obligation to care for and make sure the child is healthy once that child is in this world. Only women have a physical obligation of carrying the child to term. The right to abortion stems from this and isn't relevant for the purpose of the first obligation. This would be the opposite if…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 07:04 PM
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One of the more compelling arguments that I have heard against the pro life position is that is that carrying an unwanted child to term is akin to "State Forced Pregnancy". In this video, Olly mostly reiterates the thought experiment put forward by Judith Thomson. Anyway, this is an argument for abortion that accepts for the purposes of the debate that a fetus has a right to life. As the thought experiment goes, imagine there is a famous violinist You wake up in the morning and find yourself bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:35 PM
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Here is a really interesting article by MSU going over some studies regarding lying. There are some interesting observations about differences of lying in there. I'll take out some extracts from what I found interesting, but I would encourage you to read the article if you are curious. Its quite good. https://msu.edu/~levinet/Serota_etal2010.pdf Much of the research that seeks to quantify lying behavior is concentrated in the area of relational communication. Cochran and Mays (1990) studied dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:18 PM
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​ https://ifstudies.org/blog/does-sexual-history-affect-marital-happiness For men, there aren’t statistically significant differences in marital quality between men who have two partners and more than two. That is the trend for women too, with two exceptions: female respondents with four partners or 6-10 partners have significantly lower odds of very happy marriages compared to those with two partners. It’s not clear why these two groups of women defy the broader trend, but it should be noted th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 07:48 PM
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in my Eastern European wastelands, marital status is mandatory to be put into ID (basically it's part of the procedure of getting married). Mention of children is optional, but not of marriage. That is really interesting, I imagine that would make hiding martial status incredibly difficult... can't even go to a bar or a restaurant without a risk of the ID showing... I find it an amusing misunderstanding at least. ​ I was not the one who took adultery laws off the books, or voted for it. Honestly…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:37 AM
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Dov wahlaan fah rel. We were made to dominate. The will to power is in our blood. You feel it in yourself, do you not? I can be trusted. I know this. But they do not. Onikaan ni ov dovah. It is always wise to mistrust a dovah. I have overcome my nature only through meditation and long study of the Way of the Voice. No day goes by where I am not tempted to return to my inborn nature. Zin krif horvut se suleyk. What is better - to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 05:54 PM
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I wasn't going to post this, but I realized from reading through OP's comments that he is also referring to a desire for the person doing the rejecting give affirmative feedback and not just friends or families who may or may not have even been present when the rejection happened. So I am posting this to address those concerns and explain why this language is used even if it is not necessarily helpful for our aspiring PUA op. There are a lot of studies that show that aggression is a reaction tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 02:36 PM
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obviously, rape is a crime that is much more likely to leave a high-quality DNA evidence. In theory yes. In practice at least in the US it is a hot mess, I'm not sure if more civilized countries are handling this better. But, in the US there is an infamously massive rape kit backlog. Where rape kits are just sitting on shelves for incredibly long amounts of time. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1524838015622436 https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2019/07/nationwide-epidemic-…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 01:07 PM
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EXCELLENT point. Let's look into Innocence Project database to specifically look for those elusive rapists who never got caught (or, in this instance, who had other people erroneously put in prison instead of them): This does not in any meaningful way refute the concern that very few men who rape ever face conviction, at all. First, i would point out that the Innocence Project is only working with a sample size of 367 confirmed exoneration, and not only that, but this sample size IS NOT exclusiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 05:59 PM
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You are just trying to play logical games and be edgy for no good reason, your "gatchas" aren't even really clever. Just kind of limp and sad. Truth is, whether or not something is legal doesn't necessarily correlate to whether or not something would be good. It might be legal for a 40 year old to date a 16 year old in certain states in the United States, but that doesn't make it ethical. Moreover, it would not be inappropriate to criticize that 40 year old for being a manipulative creep even if…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 04:27 AM
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Yet here we are, in a thread created by a red pill poster, proudly proclaiming his belief that there is nothing wrong with dating minors. Please stop gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 03:20 AM
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The answer ultimately must be that if you follow the Red Pill, there is nothing a woman can do to assure you, because they believe that women are by nature going to betray them. Maybe not now, but at least in the future. Concepts like AWALT, Hypergamy, and as you say AF/BB. To embrace the Red Pill is to voluntarily damage yourself until you are incapable of trusting women or women's intentions. Its about telling yourself that its okay to hurt and betray women because women have hurt and betrayed…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 07:58 PM
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No kidding. I think he might have even taught a class on capitalization at Trump University... I think that post gave me an aneurysm.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 07:25 PM
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They don't. They should but they don't. I am ashamed of my fellow Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 08:51 PM
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Taking notes on TRP preferences so that you can do the opposite eh? Clever
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 08:49 PM
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Really well thought out. I feel as if the people saying that "women stalk too" would probably never say "but men practice hypergamy too" even though both points are clearly true. Well... I would deny that "men practice hypergamy" because I personally think that the entire idea of hypergamy as used by the red pill is pseudoscientific bullshit employed for the express purpose of undercutting women's free will and discrediting their choices. So I don't think either men or women practice hypergamy a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 08:37 PM
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There is an issue I take with this post, and it falls into a similar trap of the red pill itself does. You have asked whether predatory stalking behavior is "inherently male" in some way or another. In 1949, Eddie Waitkus, a 29-year-old first baseman for the Philadelphia Phillies, was lured to a hotel room and shot by Ruth Ann Steinhagen, a fan who had been obsessed with him for a number of years.27 Public personas, such as athletes, actors, and television personalities, are a common target for …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 02:32 PM
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But, "X is not bad because it is natural" is an appeal to nature fallacy, which I was pointing out. X is good is not the only moral statement you can make, "X is not bad" is also a moral statement and it would be a fallacy to justify that statement by invoking nature. The natural reading of; The dual mating strategy isn't a "shitty thing". It's female nature. is "The dual mating strategy is not bad because its female nature" EDIT: Also a statement that something is neither good nor bad is also i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 06:52 PM
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​ The dual mating strategy isn't a "shitty thing". It's female nature. This is what I'm talking about. Not whether or not female nature is good, but the argument that dual mating strategy isn't bad or good because it is natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 06:34 PM
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When you’re saying who is good and who is bad you’re in a moral dichotomy. So, would you also agree that when TRP says that "feminism is bad" the Red Pill is entering into that moral dichotomy and making moral statements about the "moral division between the oppressor and the oppressed"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 05:20 PM
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But this is an appeal to nature fallacy. "is dual mating strategy is female nature?" is independent from the question of "is the dual mating strategy morally good?" People dying from smallpox can be both natural and bad, for instance. Infact, believing that people dying from smallbox is bad, is necessary for the moral argument that we should require people to be vaccinated for smallpox because the herd immunity mass vaccination provides is good and that good outweighs the bad (intrusion of free …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 05:09 PM
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That is fair, I suppose my confusion arises from the statement "the red pill is amoral" being brought up in response to criticisms of the morality of red pill strategies. Which to me conveys an idea that because a hypothetical imperative concerned solely achieving X result is amoral that the moral criticisms of that strategy are irrelevant. Which to be fair to your point, these concerns are irrelevant... because they don't have a bearing on the success rate, which means they are irrelevant to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 04:53 PM
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The way you use the hammer can be moral or immoral. This is kind of my point though, TRP has always been more than just a collection of pseudo scientific observations, it also includes a strategy that it recommends be applied to obtain the results you want and we can have a discussion about whether that strategy is moral. It would be akin to a hammer coming with instructions on where to hit someone to kill them in one blow. We could argue that the advice on those instructions encourage people to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 04:35 PM
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Also, morality doesn't really exist unless you go to an external source like a religion, so it completely depends on the religion, This isn't really a good argument about morality. The truth is, morality can be defined in a huge number of ways that are not religious at all. Kant and the Categorical Imperative, the moral skepticism of G.E. Moore, etc. etc. etc. Tying morality to religion in some way creates an absurd situation where you end up saying things like "atheists cannot have a moral code…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 03:57 PM
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Amorality is just kind of the indifference or lacks the quality of "rightness" or "wrongness". If we are having a debate about the best way to prepare babies to be slaughtered and eaten, this can be done ignoring the ethics of doing so. You can discuss a sexual strategy in the same way. I think we can agree that is a pretty... modest proposal. Even still though, I don't think its as isolated from any questions of morality as you initially point out, as when we discuss the best way to prepare the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 03:16 PM
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​ Tbp claims the knowledge itself is immoral. I think our disconnect here is you are talking about the idea of knowledge in a general sense and I am talking about whether or not something is good or bad. To use your example, "dual mating strategy", whether or not this is scientifically based, I would posit that there are separate moral questions of "is a dual mating strategy good" and what "should" we do regarding it. The knowledge of a "dual mating strategy" itself isn't immoral, but the moral …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 02:59 PM
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Thanks, I finished editing the post. Not sure how my finger slipped.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 02:24 PM
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Beta Bux isn't a "real" sexual strategy. I people just simply put do not think like that, and even to the extent that people act like it, and "examples" the red pill finds, are mostly just proto red pill nice guys who are failing at it. Beta Bux is a fiction created by incels and red pillers in an attempt to ignore reality. The truth is incel and red pill ideology, for a variety of reasons needs to explain the vast majority of cases as being "fake" in some way or another. Incels need to explain …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 02:52 PM
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You are conflating. You are failing to differentiate between the legal question and the moral question. Legal Question: Are Canadian "language control mechanisms" good law? Moral Question: Is joke X harmful, and should I avoid saying it? Put another way, even in a society with no laws, I think we could agree that there are certain things we should and should not do from a moral perspective. If there were no law against theft, for instance, theft would still be morally wrong. If there were no law…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 03:42 PM
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You are catastrophizing. Just because people pay more attention to the jokes that are made, doesn't mean that jokes won't be made or can't be made. People just need to be more cognizant of the message that their jokes send, and take responsibility for those messages. Jokes can be made about nearly everything, including the Third Reich. If you are curious, here is a very good video made by Lindsay Ellis disusing Mel Brooks and the Producers, discussing how humor can be used to open the way to tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 12:53 PM
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I used to think like you do. But then I realized that it was immature and childish and that it unintentionally (or possibly intentionally) undercuts the significance of jokes. First, there are two fundamental questions, which are vastly different. Is a specific joke bad or harmful? Should a joke be made in a moral sense? Should a person be legally prohibited from making the joke? You are conflating these two questions by focusing a response entirely on the second one to avoid any responsibility …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 12:45 PM
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This is an example of how people normalize and internalize jokes. Of course it started out as a joke, but over time the red pill drank the koolaide and started taking it seriously, or some members did. This is why jokes are important, and people who hide behind "its just a joke" are ignorant to the weight behind their words. Of course this isnt as serious as some jokes, but nevertheless its a good example of the phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 09:53 PM
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Its turn based right? On my turn I roll a d20, if it beats your Armor Value you get hit! Then I roll a d6 + my strength modifier for damage. Pretty sure that is how it works!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 04:37 PM
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Yes he pontificates about how there is "no way this isnt mentally damaging"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 03:34 AM
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I mean it is the title of the post
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 03:04 AM
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This article discusses whether choice overload has an effect on choice, not whether there is any psychological harm that would justify a statement that social media is "mentally ruining women". the question of whether and when large assortments impede choice remains open Second, we need to look at what they mean when they say "moderating variables" we identify four key factors—choice set complexity, decision task difficulty, preference uncertainty, and decision goal—that moderate the impact of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 12:00 AM
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Here is an article from better help explaining why armchair psychology is dangerous Here is an article from psychcentral talking about the ethics of armchair diagnosis Here is one from WebMD explaining why its a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 05:19 PM
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I just pointed out that there are a lot of studies on this matter. Some reference to them would be helpful in forming an opinion. Just because someone has an opinion doesn't automatically make it valid, and just because someone is too lazy to do any research before making their poor hot take doesn't mean that doing research is not important. Your post is just supporting TRP anti intellectualism. I thought the RP was supposed to be about science and rationality? Why are RP posters so hostile to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 05:06 PM
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I really really don't like posts like this that do not cite a significant source when making sweeping statements about the impact of something on mental health or similar. There are a lot of resources talking about mental health and the mental health impacts of online spaces. Here is a google scholar search https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=mental+health+social+media&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart Here is one in that google scholar search published in psychiatric quarterly called "Social…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 04:14 PM
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Once again, your post is without substance, merit, or good faith. I make responses like this so that others can read through them and spot bad faith arguments when they arise. This is a classic example of attacking semantics in order to distract from the point that the argument was lost. The idea is that with proper posturing you can give the illusion that we are having a "good faith debate", so that you don't have to change your mind. ​ someone else said it is significant, you said it was rare,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 02:54 AM
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Just to be clear. You are admitting you have failed to produce evidence of your claim that false reports are a statistically relevant problem, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 11:51 PM
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Lets think about what you have written and break down why this is just more of the same fearmongering I was speaking about earlier, and is not rational discourse. What is your point? What makes you think false reports not factually proven false and yet still actually false are rare? Starting right here. Its a silly game of "hot potato" with the burden of proof. Except... I don't have the burden of proof. You see, OP has asserted that false rape accusations are common. Therefore, the fact that OP…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 11:01 PM
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Case in point. You have come to the table with no statistics or evidence, and your rebuttal boils down to "you should be afraid too". I am disappointing by how irrational TRPers are. Its sad really. "You shouldn't go swimming in the ocean because you could be attacked by a shark." "That is just fear mongering. The odds of you getting attacked by a shark are actually very very low." "Its all fearmongering until you get attacked by a shark."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 09:00 PM
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Ah, Me too. The famed strawman of the RP, the fools gatcha. These types of attacks and spreading paranoia about "false rape charges" are a directly connected backlash to increased accountability for sexual actions. Are there false allegations? yes. Is it a systematic problem that should discredit an entire movement? There is no evidence of that. Let me put this into perspective for you. There are false accusations every day, people are accused of assault, and exonerated. People are accused of li…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 08:24 PM
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​ This is why this is a CMV. It's on you to provide the counter-arguments and evidence against my claim. So you admit that your "claim" is not founded on statistically relevant evidence then? Or are you going to claim that sample size of "whatever you have observed with no control groups or other scientific procedures" is an adequate sample size to make sweeping generalizations about the world? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence - Hitchen's Razor If poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 01:29 PM
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My argument is that, when it comes down to the fine point of changing one's mind about a topic, women never do it for logical / data / evidence based reasons. You have tossed out a lot of buzz words there champ, "logical", "data", "evidence based". And you come with an argument speaking in *absolutes, "*women never do X". Only a fool speaks in absolutes. For someone so concerned with the "nuance" of his argument, you lost all credibility when you used the word "never" over "generally". Moroever,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 01:02 PM
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You aren't looking at it from the right angle. I was never "red pilled" at least as it is defined here, never posted on TRP spaces, never bought into or practiced any of TRP mantras. The idea that I "was once red pilled", is a conclusion you have made presumably from some of my past comments on subs I regret posting on now. But those posts were not about gender or sexual strategy in any meaningful way. I left those spaces when I realized the direction they were headed in and were already going. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 01:06 PM
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But I’ve read some of your older comments...it seems like you were once red pilled...what happened? If I was ever red pilled, I can only imagine that I... grew up. Simple as that. Developed a more nuanced view of the world and want to share that nuanced view of the world with people who can still be saved. If they'll listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 03:04 AM
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There is a cultural shift away from TRP on the internet as a whole. This has resulted in this sub becoming increasingly concentrated with TRP posters. That doesn't make sense at first, but if you think about it longer it makes perfect sense. In earlier years, TRP had something of a rise to prominence, at least on Reddit itself. When TRP was on the rise, it had a lot more clout and a lot more activity. This gets us into TBP. There is no secret cabal of TBP posters anywhere that you can locate, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 08:48 PM
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Is a woman's beauty of any tangible value to you if she's not having sex, in a relationship with, or dating you? blah blah blah beauty premium blah blah hypothetical blah hypothetical, blah blah blah That was a lot of drivel and came across as some sort of disjointed weird lecture for what should be a very simple question. The problems with your post, from a philosophical standpoint actually starts very near the beginning though. You have the most delicious food in front of you, but if you can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 10:36 PM
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people focus so hard on what happens in the big cities (NY, LA etc) with regards to feminism, attitudes to masculinity, male-female relationships that they forget that there is a whole other America out there (Midwest, the south) that is entirely different to the cities. Okay, so first of all, you have your dichotomy slightly wrong. The divide is more between rural or urban areas more so than the region when talking about America. Maybe you've heard the phrase Pennsyltucky or similar to describe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:52 PM
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As others have said, it is looking for an easy way out to a complicated problem that doesn't have an easy solution to. The truth of the matter is that there are societal problems that are faced by women, those are valid and should be rectified. There are also societal problems that are faced by men, those are valid and should be rectified. There is nothing to gain by gate keeping problems and trying to have a pissing contest as to who is more oppressed. The idea that both genders are equally sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 05:37 PM
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Purple Pill debate isn't *really* an advice subreddit. So we can't really help you with that. As a recent post has shown, we also have a huge cross-section with incels, who are very far disconnected from how the world and relationships work. If you are honestly looking for advice and not just looking to troll, I would try your luck in subreddits more suited to giving advice, like /r/relationships or /r/askmen, etc. You know, subreddits designed around giving advice or answering questions. Anyway…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 12:47 PM
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Are these the same arguments you make for why the earth is flat? You really showed us globeheads.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:52 PM
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Let me paraphrase this. Do you think a man can have fairly regular short term relationships and flings, but be incapable of getting in a long term relationship... even if he doesn't cheat, and even if he lowers his physical standards" The problem is in part with the part I put in italics. A long term relationship is a commitment entered into between two people, the most insulting thing about this ask is it assumes that a man's primary goal in life is to get into a long term relationship. A perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 07:33 PM
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This thread doesn't really make any sense. The cold truth of it is, these words you listed mean different things and have different connotations . Many of them are still used in internet lingo today. Someone who is "pussy whipped" is not necessarily a "white knight" or a "nice guy". Simp is a bit different, as it seems to have "evolved" from just being an abbreviated slang of 'simpleton' to the acronym that people use in this backwater bayou of the internet. Under its current definition of not p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 08:57 PM
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This is a very interesting question, and I think its one that warrants some exploration. BUT you are asking the wrong question. I would posit the connection is that religion appeals to the same types of people that the red pill appeals to. The draw of Religion and The Red Pill is almost completely identical. The world is a scary, shitty, place that can frequently be difficult to understand. Religion tells you in black and what terms what is right and wrong. The Red Pill tells you in black and wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:01 PM
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This is actually a really common tactic that I've noticed from the red pill. I've been looking out for it more and started to see it. Basically its say what you mean, then when challenged on it redefine the words into something easier to defend, but at the same time leave the implication there. The purpose is to leave the implication or first impression there, then fight it out in the comments to give plausible deniability to the first claim. i really noticed it around the same time as TRP peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:49 PM
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Men by nature dont necessarily rely on external stimulus for being content. On the contrary, women shop just for the sake of it. Hold on, let me call my dad, I need to let him know that he isn't a man because he "relies on external stimulus for being content". Sure, he isn't "shopping", but he is a casino rat who goes to the casino at least once a week, and I'm pretty sure he is at least technically an alcoholic. My point is that external stimulus can take more forms than just "shopping" and men…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 02:37 PM
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You are too wrapped up in black pill thought spirals to think logically in this post. All sex is a privilege, to some degree. Whether casual or otherwise. The key difference that you are omitting is the difference between a privilege and a right. If you have a right to something. I won't get into privilege as a legal term, because your post isn't a legal analysis and obviously we aren't talking about anything codified into law. a Right though is more sweeping. Human rights are rights inherent to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 01:52 PM
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So is your philosophy... "let them die"? That is the only consistent philosophy you could possibly have.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 01:37 AM
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I think the point is that if the studies said the opposite, the TRP would be flaunting as red pill truths and gloating about how it proves AWALT. But when actual science disagrees with them, they dance around it and pretend to argue in good faith about how it doesn't actually impact their decisions. Ymmv.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 07:55 PM
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​ It seems that in a state of nature women are quite literally oppressed by men as men are the providers and leaders of the tribe while women are the followers. Logic follows that if this is the natural order of things men truly are the superior gender and by default women are inferior to men. How are you developing your "state of nature here"? Do you see the State of Nature as John Locke? Or more like Reusseau? It doesn't matter. None of the classical constructions of the State of Nature really…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 07:33 PM
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... I can barely handle breaking the bond with my EX's cat... I couldn't imagine how painful it would be to break a bond with a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 06:46 PM
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Its kind of like when you tell me I'm going to murder my dad and sleep with my mum, and I spend my whole life trying to avoid it, and whoops... It only happened because I was trying to make it not happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:48 PM
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If you actually think that redpillers are "smacking" anybody down... redpillers can barely stumble through a sentence without relying on a false dichotomy or other logical fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 01:28 AM
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You still haven't posted any data about *who* is complaining. Whether they have factors in their lives that contribute to their worldview. These variables are critical to any such discussion. You still haven't posted any data about *how much* they are complaining, as compared to men complaining. You still haven't posted anything about the sample sizes so we can determine if there is a Simpson's Paradox or similar going on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:09 PM
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Thank you for the admission that you were talking about "all women" or "women on the whole", "Women as a Gender" is basically just another way of saying this. You cannot shift between a statement of some women as a collection of individuals, and women overall as a gender. If you want to talk about women as a gender overall. Post some statistics about women as a gender complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:03 PM
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You post statistics talking about an aggregate of all women and all men. Then ask a question about why *some* women complain. Do you see what you have done? So you can either admit that your statistics are meaningless when discussing *some* women, or you cede that you can't show anything about women on the whole. Either way... you kind of need to accept that your OP was just a logical void.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:58 PM
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There is a difference between all women and some women. If some women have a right to complain, then their complaints shouldn't be indicative with all women. Or whether women complain more than men on aggregate. Which we don't have data for either. Also I can find examples of men complaining that their women don't do enough housework as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:53 PM
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Your post asked about some women. Why are you shifting the goalposts now? Edit: we also still need to see the sources on the amount of complaining, otherwise it could be a vocal minority, or only coming from a certain group that we should look at more closely as opposed to the aggregate. We don't have enough info about the complaining to speak intelligently about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:50 PM
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So lets look into the data you provided. The first problem you have is you don't have a source for "women complaining". I.E. wouldn't it cut against the grain if it turned out women complained *less* on average then they did 20 years ago. Second you aren't taking into consideration *who* is complaining. Isn't it important to know how many men are complaining as well? If most of the household complaining is done by men, shouldn't we take that into consideration? We need some data on who is compla…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:46 PM
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alright, I'm going to level with you. This post has strong "nice guy" vibes to it. And that is problematic. You are hitting all of the stereotypes. First there is setting up a false dichotomy between "nice guys v assholes" as well as bastardizing a different false dichotomy set up on the red pill between "alpha v betas". What you are doing is super imposing a world view where being nice has been substituted for beta, and are posting with the conviction that everything you listed above are things…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:15 PM
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Sounds like someone couldn't cut muster through basic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:07 PM
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That was a fun LARP
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:10 PM
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The problem is you are asking for thoughts on your own personal life. Again, I am not your therapist. Let's say that it IS a problem, in one occurrence. Can you do that? You were with a woman who you felt did not contribute to the relationship. Your expectations of the relationship could not be reconciled with her expectations of the relationship. You were not compatible with this woman. You should break up with this woman. You were free to enter this relationship, and you are free to leave this…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:48 PM
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You also forgot to address the incompetence of the females to pull their own weight above. Any thoughts on that? Citation needed. I am not your therapist and I do not have the time nor resources to try to figure out why you feel that every woman in your life is "incompetent". At this point you've put out some anecdotal evidence and are asking that I take your opinion of it at face value. I have not had the same experience of "incompetence" in LTRs. So if you are resting your hat on this argument…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:39 PM
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You still haven't come up with a counter point to the very simple point that monogamy is part of compatibility and if parties cannot agree to be monogamous then they are not compatible and should break up. Instead you have started flailing around on some crazed tangent where you regurgitate alt right mantras about "soyciety". Watching you "debate" and defend your points is honestly... its just sad. EDIT: If you want an answer to your question. A man can do whatever he wants while he is in a rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:25 PM
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That was oddly specific. Also where did crying come into it? I have a really hard time following your thought spirals. I do ask though... what does this have to do with your earlier manipulative question as to "whether a woman should approve of her partner going on dates with younger women because she loves him?" This is just a petty attempt to deflect the conversation into something else. Its a tacit admission that you don't have an answer for the simple point that monogamy is a part of compati…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:09 PM
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Monogamy is a part of compatibility and if parties disagree they should break up. Have you been in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 03:52 PM
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I don't follow. If two people aren't compatible they should break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 03:06 PM
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What is the logic of not collecting from other federal defaulters but leaving child support defaulters in dry. Take this with a grain of salt. But the IRS is one of the friendliest creditors you can possibly work with. The thing with the IRS is that they voluntarily take the back seat to almost every other type of debt. The IRS does not wield the full power of the Federal Government. I used to practice a bit of Tax Law, which was mostly bull shit, but I've spent a lot of time on the phone talkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 02:17 PM
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I see this a lot, and I understand where people are coming from. But I was able to move on from this belief and my life is much improved because of it. I think a lot of it has come down to getting older and having more experience myself. I've done a lot of things, many things that I regret. Everyone has a past. I am not the same person I was at 18, and I probably wouldn't have liked myself at 18. I have moved on from those years and that part of my life. So riddle me this, why should I then obse…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 12:55 PM
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I’m not sure how the far right got brought into it, but I must say I’m not a fan of being implicitly aligned with radical hateful doctines. I brought up the far right, because of your association of Feminism as being "anti-western" is a common far right talking point. So when you make that argument, you are whether intentionally or not, parroting alt right talking points. In a counter to your tactics I might ask where you possibly got the idea that Marxism is a western doctrine. You mention the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 05:59 PM
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Do you even read any of the RP subreddits? TRP, MRP, RPW, RPWi? Think there's even a Christian RP out there too. I have noticed that TRP doesn't have a spine. It doesn't really hold any real beliefs but rather just clings to whatever it thinks is the strongest argument to make. Nevertheless, I have been told repeatedly by Red Pillers that the advise is that you should be spinning plates, and subreddits for like Married Red Pill are for making the best of a bad situation. If I were to say Married…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 04:47 PM
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If feminism really is being ruined by a few bad apples, the rest ought to cast them out to save themselves. I see this brought up quite frequently by Red Pillers. Its an effort to dismiss their own radical sections without action by simply saying "well feminists or the left does it too". The irony is that this isn't the case. The "left" and feminists, on the whole, tend to be a lot more open about dismissing radical wings of their party and ideas that they find toxic. In terms of Left vs Right m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 04:40 PM
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TRP is toolset aiming at increasing men's personal SMV, so they get laid, or later transition into a serious LTR. This is a lie. TRP advocates never getting into a LTR. The whole, "later transition into a serious LTR" is a propoganda point that the Red Pill is fundamentally against. For heavens sake, your flair is "marriage is obsolete"... TRP isn't a toolset. The TRP is an ideology that uses pseudo science to attempt to explain women and brainwash its cultists into hating them. To the extent it…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 02:53 PM
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Um. Have you been to New York? I don't even like going to New York because it always feels so cramped compared to every other major city in the US I have been to. Including LA, Chicago, Boston, Detroit, Minneapolis, Houston, etc. It just doesn't make sense to dismiss the data because you think "a lot of LA doesn't fill out the census". Its not going to make nearly as big a difference as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 01:44 PM
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Many men do seem to despise women having casual sex. I wager it comes down to jealousy. They aren't mad that women are having sex, they are mad that women are having sex... without them. Makes them feel left out, so they make sweeping generalizations to justify their jealousy. I have to wonder: what do you expect them to do when they feel horny? I mean, we all feel it. It can be really really frustrating when we don’t “satiate” it This question though, I feel is slightly disingenuous. Despite ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 01:31 PM
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I read through multiple gender specific subs Radfem, Menslib, mgtow, fds, etc. I wanted clarity for what I experienced with not just dating women but even interpersonal non-sexual relationships. Here is your first problem. You aren't looking at normal people here. What you are looking at are the fringes. A collection of some of the most extreme view points of either gender. At the end of the day, dating is hard and people get jaded, sometimes a bit of bad luck and bad experiences can rapidly inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 02:13 PM
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You should care about the fringes. A lot of the time, the fringes just say the quiet part out loud. [deleted]'s point (and she is free to correct me if I'm wrong or missed it slightly) is that prominent and top TRP contributors (and yes she did give an example) are preaching alt right ideology. You are claiming that these people are on the "fringe", but even if they are- their ideas are not rejected by the community. At worst they are embraced by the community and at best they are tolerated by t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 09:07 PM
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Even if this is a lie, it still might be a useful lie, or a self-fulfilling prophecy (I know its not a study, but its an interesting article). In other words, Merton noticed that sometimes a belief brings about consequences that cause reality to match the belief. Generally, those at the center of a self-fulfilling prophecy don’t understand that their beliefs caused the consequences they expected or feared—it’s often unintentional, unlike self-motivation or self-confidence. These prophecies can i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:30 PM
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One of the problems with this post, which while good in theory is that literally no-one is going to answer it honestly. Even if someone says they have no friends they are just opening themselves up to get blasted. Red Pill Man: I have no friends :( Response: MaYbE iF yOu WeReN't So ToXic PeOpLe WoUld LiKe YoU. ​ Blue Pill Man: I have no friends :( Response: I aLwAyS kNeW yOu WeRe A cUcK! ​ Blue Pill Woman: I have no friends :( Response: MaYbE yOu ShOuLdN't Be So StUcK uP. etc, etc, etc Then you …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 01:53 PM
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That is so 2019. 2020 is all about an attic and Pizza Rolls. Its the way of the future!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 01:46 PM
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y'all got any of those studies? Or is this just one of those things where we post a bunch of things that "sound right" and pretend that means it is right. Let me give you an example. Before the medical modernization in late 1800s and early 1900s people believed that viruses were born from filth. They based this on observations that were self evident at the time, people got sick more when they lived in unsanitary conditions. Ergo, it was self evident that disease itself was created by these unsan…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 01:42 PM
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What are you on about? Your logic looks like it tripped and fell.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 01:26 PM
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This post is... well at most silly, but it does raise an interesting philosophical point. Being alpha, holding frame, having an abundance mentality, not pedestalizing pussy and even dark triad traits describe the TRUE state of man. Well, before civilization/society ruined it. Stepping aside from dusty old enlightenment era philosophers like Locke or Hobbes, I would challenge you to identify "when" you believe that this state of nature existed, if ever, and why you believe that whatever this "sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 09:36 PM
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Let me Google that for you EDIT: My problem with you /u/Readycoms is the way you approach debate. You don't act in good faith, and you aren't as clever a troll as you think you are. I am going to call you out because I think its worth noting for people reading how to spot bad faith debaters. I am adding this to a higher comment instead of replying to the comment chain for increased visibility. First, you always have the same MO. You start out with a tangentially related question that has very li…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 04:28 PM
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If you really believe that the red pill is not misogynist, then I encourage you to actually take a stand and excise the misogyny from your ranks. Until then it's just empty platitudes, the fact is TRP encourages it and breeds it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:29 PM
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Thank you for agreeing with me that the Red Pill is nothing more than a pseudo scientific cult. You can choose to stay BP and not believe in AF/BB, hypegamy, branchswinging, and be a solid plowhorse. Totally fine. that will be your world. have at it. This isn't how science works. AF/BB is either real or its not. Hypergamy is either real or its not, same with branch swinging. Just because you believe in these things doesn't make them true. And just because you believe in these things doesn't mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:30 PM
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Is this proof of God? https://www.cru.org/us/en/how-to-know-god/my-story-a-life-changed/seahawks-okung-describes-his-faith-story.html And if it's not, how is it any different from what you are doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:53 PM
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The problem with people, especially on the right, and yes, including the Red Pill. Is that they aren't looking at science objectively. An objective person would look at the science and use that to inform their opinions. What the right does instead is it sets out to prove that "science is on their side". How's a man supposed to get two women to take turns on him if his girlfriend isn't into it, in this day in age according to science? The question may seem absurd, but it's really not. Just becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 01:26 PM
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You don't get it do you? Maybe you don't want to get it. All you have done is post some unverifiable anecdotal experience. Lets talk about an MLM pyramid scam. watch this: "I just paid for a new vacation thanks to my part time job selling laxative coffee for Herbalife, and you could to!". That is a lie. I just lied to you. I don't sell for Herbalife. But you would have no way to verify whether I did or not based on what I wrote alone. Moreover, while its true that some people make a lot of money…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 01:00 PM
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TRP works. I hear this a lot, but there of course is no proof of it aside from anecodotal internet evidence. Where the TRP gets really duplicitous is that it denies and vigorously denounces anecdotal evidence that it doesn't agree with- telling its members that its a lie or an exception, or someone in denial. While at the same time telling them to believe other red pillers anecdotal evidence because it somehow gets at the truth. The lie perpetuated by TRP is to trick its members with availabilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:10 PM
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Men and women should not hate each other. Even assuming everything you are saying is true (which it isn't because it is largely hyperbole), nothing you have posted either about men or women justifies hatred. You are encouraging people to take a logical jump that isn't appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:20 PM
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You call it virtue, but honestly I'm actually really worried about this virus. I think its going to have a much bigger impact than anyone has anticipated and I think its going to get a lot worse in the coming months.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:06 PM
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I hate everything. We have a global pandemic currently ongoing and our healthcare systems could potentially be overwhelmed if we lose control of the spread. But here is OP decrying that online dating is useless because his first date locations are closed in the US and he doesn't want to talk to women because he is afraid he will inflate their egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:36 PM
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If you believe in nature theories... I'm going to hold onto that. Because I think one area where I disagree most frequently with TRP is their over reliance on nature theories. I know that I am preaching to the choir here OP. But hearing TRP drone on about how women and men are "naturally" annoys me, so I'm going to indulge a bit. Anyway, before I digress too far I suppose I'll answer your question. I don't believe in natural theories (as expressed by TRP), and I believe men and women are entitle…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 06:04 PM
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If someway you can increase women's production to the point that they can replace ALL the production that men currently This is nonsense. Lets say we have a theoretical society. Society needs 5 AUTs to survive. Men alone produce 10 AUTS and women produce 0. Then some reforms are produced and now men produce 7 AUTs and women produce 4 AUTs. Society is still doing better on the net. As now there is 11 AUTs produced when only 5 are needed. and "women haven't replaced ALL the production that men cur…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:30 PM
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Let me help you out. The red pill repackages generic common sense advise in a thick veneer of hatred and misogyny. If the red pill quit its bullshit. The blue pill would have no need to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:07 PM
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I want to break this post down a bit. Because it could use a bit of challenge This society, modern society has a lot of conditions to it's existence. One of them is that men must work and produce way more than what they need to survive and entertain themselves. If production decreases too much, then the system collapses. Okay. But what if some of that production is created by women. Why is it necessary for men to work and produce more than they need to survive. By your own argument, what society…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:55 PM
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I feel like this for sure is more of a CMV or a Q4R type post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:36 PM
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[Q4MEN] Do you value the happiness of men over the freedom/happiness of women? No. All sentient beings with free(ish) will are entitled to the same rights and freedoms- men, women, theoretical alien species or AI, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:34 PM
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That is obviously not the case (or exaggerated hyperbole), and if you actually believe it is, you are going to need a citation for that outlandish claim. Just because you don't get as much sex as a model, does not mean that you won't get any. Or that other men aren't attractive. Its not a competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 01:52 PM
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Duh. Did you read my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 01:47 PM
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This question drenched in hyperbole. Okay so first of all, we all should agree that some people are more attractive than other people. This is something intuitive, and something that any red piller should be able to agree with. Especially since manosphere types are all about rating girls on a scale of 1-10 based on attraction alone. In the same way, men can also be rated on that scale as well. GENERALLY. I say generally because people do have types. So there is some variation in what women find …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 01:40 PM
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Its definitely a scary situation. I haven't been instructed to work from home yet. But all of my hearings in Federal Court, State Courts, and Administrative Hearing Courts all got cancelled. Its sort of surreal, and not something I've ever seen happen in my lifetime before. I think a lot of people snapped to their senses when the NCAA cancelled the college basketball tournament the week before March Madness. I will say that I am not prepared for an extended isolation, and my refrigerator definit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 09:45 PM
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Poison. The red pill will poison you The red pill doesn't argue in good faith. Really there are two faces of the red pill, on the one hand there is the presentable face of "this is advise for men to improve themselves and help them get laid!" (this is mostly the red pill taking credit for plagiarized common sense advice) and there is the true red pill, which is at its core about defining women and the world in such a way as to dehumanize them (AF/BB, AWALT, etc). So when you argue against the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 01:39 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrrADTN-dvg
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 01:01 PM
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I will point out that compared to more traditional societies, as of current writing, the United States and Western Europe are very sexually liberated. While there are still stereotypes about angry feminists and anti LGBT sentiments that are pretty strong, especially around conservative circles such as The Red Pill itself. The truth is that these changes have made people on the whole significantly more accepting of sex on the whole, and as a result of cultural acceptance people feel more comforta…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 12:42 PM
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and see how many women I know are like that. Personally if I go through my contacts or social media,the women that are under the supposed lifetime n count by the age of 25 can be counted on one hand. Even assuming everything you are saying is true, you are improperly attributing your own social circle as a representative sample of a greater population. Look at it like this, if you hang out with and follow a more promiscuous social circle, this will likely lead to a different amount of different …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:23 PM
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You and I both are fully aware that "cuck" is a popular right wing insult referencing a sexual fetish. We are both aware what ZlayerXY posted: Yeaaaaah, another cuckkkkk!!!!! LoL This is definitely nothing more than an insult or adhominem attack against statusincorporated by implying he has a particular sexual fetish. Please Readycoms. You aren't as clever a troll as you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 07:50 PM
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No you should make your own observations. Your own observations will be skewed by availability heuristics. check out this MSU study: https://msu.edu/~ema/803/Ch11-JDM/2/TverskyKahneman73.pdf The study asked respondents if there are more words in the english lanugage that start with 'k' (ex. killer, karma) or words that have 'k' as the third letter (ex. acknowledge, ask) they found that universally people vastly overestimated the number of words that start with 'k' and underestimated the number o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 07:33 PM
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So are you suggesting that we should instead trust completely unverifiable field reports from the red pill posters? Or that we should take unverifiable anecdotal evidence from the internet claiming to know how women really are as gospel? Only when you agree with that anecdotal evidence? I see. Just because there is some margin of error in self reported studies, doesn't mean that they aren't useful, and it also doesn't mean that we should reject the data altogether and trust some pseudo scientifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 07:18 PM
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Anyway. If you want a serious answer, I will tell that that its because its not a problem. You are speaking in almost entirely in hyperbole with a hypothetical situation that is at most very rare. You are assuming the existence of the "cock carousel" and AF/BB and moreover assuming that we agree that these premises exist. The truth, however, is that it does not exist, and to the extent that it does exist its not a big enough problem to warrant concern. According to the CDC, on the whole, the ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 06:38 PM
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day. Just keeping waiting" IE BP BS. Be much better to hear the truth that 90% of men will never be that tall. I mean what else are you going to tell a 12 year old kid? Height is largely genetic. You are going to be tall or not. Unless you are seriously suggesting offering leg lengthening procedures to a 12 year old...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 08:16 PM
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What are you talking about mate? This is what you are responding to: I'm glad that in a thread asking for science to back up the red pill you have immediately resulted to calling out "cuck". Bravo. Where did that tangent come from? Are you sure you are even responding to the right post? You seem a bit lost?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 01:13 PM
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She responded very poorly. Claiming she has not been cold that she is busy and I should "go find someone who will shower me with affection and text all day" That is classic gaslighting, its another manipulation and emotional abuse tactic. What she is trying to do is make you question whether what you were experiencing was even happening as a way to avoid addressing any underlying problems in the relationship. She is abusive and she is abusing you. Not all abuse is physical. You aren't going to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 07:08 PM
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I reject the premise and framing of your question. To answer just the headline though. Do you believe there really is someone for everyone? No. I do not believe that there is someone for everyone. That implies a right to another persons body. What i do believe is that everyone has the right to the freedom to choose who they want to be with. Moreover, because of the law of large numbers more likely than not people will find someone eventually or a meaningful relationship. I do not believe in dest…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 06:30 PM
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But how many threads are there about "dread game" and "spinning plates"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 06:04 PM
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Wat? That is your only example? A thread about street fighting? This thread is just... odd. Its a strange dichotomy you've created. If anything it is a master class in red pill delusion. Captain America? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 05:20 PM
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Your argument doesn't dismiss the possibility that sweden is indeed the most incel-dense country in the world and internet fora usage is a reflection of that. This is a burden of proof issue. "what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence" Your position was that Sweden is incel dense compared to other countries (especially those that don't have as easy access to the internet or with large amounts of population not able to communicate in english or otherwise not literate…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 04:28 PM
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How do you explain the fact that the most socialist states in the world have the most incels and sexless men? "The department of defence has reviewed three of the biggest incels forums(incels.co, looksmax, and lookism) and finds that 4.6 -7.5% of users are Swedish, making Sweden the incel densest country in the world". Thank you for translating that. Anyway, I would point out that this is the result of a knowledge reporting bias. See also; The frequency with which people write about actions, out…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 04:02 PM
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Not with that attitude you can't! Just have a few ribs removed and you can enjoy your own banana!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 03:40 PM
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It makes sense that you don't understand. Tons of people don't understand, in fact part of the reason the study in question was done is because in medical journals, Sympathy, Empathy and Compassion are frequently used interchangeably as synonyms. But these words do mean different things to people. People have very different reactions to what they perceive as compassion compared to what they perceive as sympathy. This is something that most people feel intuitively, even if the definitions themsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 03:32 PM
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On the contrary, the state is men's biggest ally. There was a study, Evolution of Human Mate Choice, which was actually recommended to me by Red Pillers in support of Hypergamy, that has a very interesting passage. Finally, many women prefer men with whom they can develop an intimate and emotionally satisfying relationship (Buss, 1994; MacDonald, 1992), although this appears to be more of a luxury than a necessity (Li et al., 2002). In keeping with the distinction between luxury and necessity, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 03:26 PM
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​ and will continuously argue that having apples but no pears is worst than having no apples and no pears. Men do have bananas though!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 03:15 PM
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I have been on an NCBI kick recently. Sympathy, empathy, and compassion: a grounded theory study of palliative care patients' understandings, experiences, and preferences Constructs of sympathy, empathy, and compassion contain distinct themes and sub-themes. Sympathy was described as an unwanted, pity-based response to a distressing situation, characterized by a lack of understanding and self-preservation of the observer. Empathy was experienced as an affective response that acknowledges and att…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 03:10 PM
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Haha I picked that focus because it seemed interesting. Not so much that dimorphic exists, but rather the relevance of comparing the ratio to Geese Voles and Gorillas.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 12:12 PM
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Oh god. This post is... basically nothing but a pseudo science fever dream. Look man, I'm not even saying what you are saying is necessarily wrong, but like, post some citations for these assertions. Otherwise for all I know you could be using Roosh V's book BANG! as your source. ​ the more sexually dimorphic a species, the more the species is Males Compete, Females Choose (MCFC). We know humans are sexually dimorphic due to things like body mass and body::testicles ratio, which is greater than …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 09:44 PM
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META: One thing that is really interesting about this thread, is that TRP and TBP largely are giving the same advice for handling this situation- BAIL. (which is not what OP expected). Neverthless the reasoning given by TRP is pretty different from the reasoning given by Blue posters. This is what I mean, when I say that my problem with TRP isn't the advice they give per se (which isn't always bad), but the reasoning behind the advice they give is frequently toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 03:56 PM
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I am in full agreement here. What you describe as "hot and cold" sounds a lot like emotional abuse. If you are in an abusive situation, you should get out of the abusive situation. If you cannot get out of an abusive situation, you should look to find help getting out. Abuse is never appropriate and men can be abused as well. Its also not a sign of weakness to be abused. It would be ill advised to try to, out abuse an abuser to "turn the tables on them" by withdrawing affection yourself. If some…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 03:32 PM
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Okay, I have a few problems with how you are using the word outlier. Lets talk about bias. 1) people tend to not like their EXs. People frequently will call their EXs bad words, the most common of which is "asshole". So if you ask a woman to describe her EX boyfrineds, they will probably call them assholes. If you ask a man to describe his EX girlfriends, he will probably call them assholes or bitches. There are some exceptions, to be sure. But when talking about a persons EXs from that person's…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 01:33 PM
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Maybe we are on the same page. Maybe I read your initial post wrong, to me at least it wasn't clear when I read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 01:23 PM
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It's that thier stated preferences are different and often opposite to thier actual preferences. "I want to date a girl who is nice". That sentence isn't a lie. Its also true, and its not incompatable with "I want to date a girl who is attractive". The truth is I want both. These are not opposites. And they aren't opposites when women say them either. ​ disingenuous strawman that redpillers are somehow surprised that women want things. They aren't surprised about things, they are mad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 01:10 PM
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In reality I think the anger stems almost entirely from the preferences themselves that are being expressed — usually preferences both deeply amoral and deeply exclusionary — and being told “the truth about female nature” earlier in life wouldn’t really have helped soften the blow ... Ultimately, I think we should be kinder to naive women who say things along the lines of “I would totally date a fat midget janitor if he was really nice to me”. They’re not really lying, they just don’t know how t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 01:06 PM
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The reality is right there for anyone to see. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/10-hottest-guys-at-2014-754207. Or hundreds of thousands of other articles from every single year since the 90s. Male attractiveness and beauty standards has been celebrated and emphasized and advertised for decades. You can't even check out at the goddamn grocery store without staring at some dude's ripped abs on a magazine or articles and lists of who are the hottest guys of the year. That you find that the id…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 01:01 PM
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Thank you for admitting that the red pill is a pseudo science cult that rejects science.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 09:11 PM
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Just because you aren't aware of a better predictor does not mean that it doesn't exist, and it does not mean that your predictor is accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 09:08 PM
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I didn't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:40 PM
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You going to link to a peer reviewed article?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:32 PM
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Why are people so obsessed with Alphas and Betas? It's not real, and it's not an accurate descriptor of how humans interact. Let this bit of red pill pseudo science die.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:22 PM
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If you're a blue-pill man you're playing in a pond with rules made by feminists. Blue-pill society is affected by feminism throughout it's fabric. I think it's disingenuous to suggest that as a "blue pill man" you're not a feminist. Okay, next time you're washing down your toxic masculinity with a soy latte and a woman asks "Are you a feminist?" Sorry, you're going to be as feminist as fuck in that moment. Or, you're going to say "No, sorry, not a feminist." in which case you're not blue-pill an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 04:46 PM
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Let’s face it- men are much stronger and have much more power than women- anything could happen. Does anybody else feel like this reads like a veiled threat? This post is really creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 03:46 PM
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A lot of people say that women aren't visual aroused like men are I think its actually more like, a lot of people are deep in denial and feel entitled to be sexually attractive to women even though they are not sexually attracted to all women. So they created a position where they firmly believe that women just aren't as visually aroused like men are, because that would be convenient for their position. Then they tell other people that. Then they get recruited into the red pill, because their la…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 01:55 PM
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Is it just me or has there been an uptick in TRP LARP posts recently. ​ Beta males are pathetic and jealous, not like me, I am alpha and cool! I found a post about a beta man flipping out, he was obviously beta otherwise he wouldn't have had emotion. I don't have emotions though, emotions are for betas not big manly man man alphas like me. The last time I had an emotion was during the Bush administration. Anyway, If I found out my girl was a sugar baby, NBD. I am such a confident manly man man a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 01:51 PM
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Except no. The only one being a hypocrite is you. My views are consistent and universal. I am not entitled to a woman's body or attention. A woman is not entitled to my body or attention. No one is entitled to anyone else's body or attention- man, woman, straight, gay, etc etc etc. Second, your post literally has nothing to do with the problem of irrational anger over being rejected that many men feel on an emotional level, and your post literally does nothing to contradict anything I say other …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 01:39 PM
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Your mileage may vary, but black pill is just an extreme version of red pill. The core tenants of the red pill world view are shared with the black pill. Concepts like hypergamy, alpha/beta, AWALT, etc. black pill is nothing more than the red pill mixed with hopelessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 01:31 PM
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Don't you know?? You are supposed to figure out your entire romantic life in highschool and go on to marry your highschool sweetheart! Because that works out so well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 05:26 PM
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come on man. CatchPhraze quoted the OP in full. Then went on to explain how reasons 2 and 3 were rooted in entitlement specifically, CatchPhraze did not talk about reason one at all. What good faith reason could you possibly have for taking reason 1 out of context when it was never even addressed and trying to start an off topic debate not even tangentially connected to the post? Don't do this stuff. Its obnoxious and trolly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 04:18 PM
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One of the things I've never really understood about the idea of AF/BB" is it assumes a framework that men are somehow, "waiting" or "missing out" on younger women. Or it assumes that the "beta males" weren't dating in their youth, which isn't generally the case or that they weren't in the past but are suddenly dating now. Nevertheless, this doesn't really describe how dating works. Most people date others who are roughly the same age as them. Typically within about 2-3 years. This has been true…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 03:43 PM
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These posts are always very misleading. Don't get me wrong, they are excellent for identifying some of the more radical incel type folks at the far end of the red spectrum. However imo the real problem with male entitlement is subconscious. I would say that most men, rationally understand that they are not entitled to sex. Its not a difficult thing to reason through. Obviously you can't both want your girlfriend to be loyal to you, but also expect every woman to put out for you. It just cannot w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 02:26 PM
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As hilarious as I think this thread is, and something I complain about a lot is how the Red Pill supports its positions through unverifiable anecdotal evidence and I suspect that a large number of red pill posters bragging about success with women are LARPing. Face it, everybody wants to exaggerate on the internet because it feels good. Nevertheless this thread encourages baseless speculation going the other way. The truth is, with anecdotal evidence it is impossible to tell whether or not Red P…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 01:58 PM
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Is it already time for our TRP LARPtm session? Let me quickly grab my dice and build my character! This time I think I'll play a bard. Girls love bad boy singers and actors!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 07:02 PM
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That is very similar to male bluepill attitude of "don't improve, don't compete, looks don't matter, you're special etc nonsense" You really have guzzled down all of the kool aide haven't you? Even in the most egregious examples of "blue pill" characters, and shitty entitlement like Ross from Friends the character undergoes significant growth and maturation before ending up with the girl at the end, Rachel. And Ross is an absolute shit character due to his entitlement! JD ends up with Elliot, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 06:58 PM
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Bond is very popular but it doesn't come across as a guide on how to get a date with that girl you like where as the big bang theory does. Big Bang Theory IS NOT A GUIDE ON HOW TO GET WOMEN. Its a sitcom satirizing nerds. Its makes funny jokes and puns about nerd stereotypes often at the expense of the cast for laffs. If you are trying to get dating advice from Big Bang Theory... oh my god. Are you going to tell me that you learned how to be a man by watching Randy Savage Promos? Moreover than t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 06:25 PM
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Are you trying to say "average Joe kids" would identify more with Dwight Shrute than Jim Halpert? Or that Jim Halpert is a nerd? Are you trying to say "Average Joe Kids" don't identify with the struggles of the student athletes in Friday Night Lights? Are you trying to say that the media doesn't have a "loveable asshole" trope that is very common and easy to identify with? ​ Again what evidence can I show you that'll convince you that western media massively pushes bluepill media on young averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 04:40 PM
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I think we've gotten to the bottom of it. You see yourself and/or saw yourself as "the nerdy guy" and you have extrapolated that feeling and emotion to all men, which is why you only focus on media specifically targeted to "nerdy men" and not to media generally targeting men in general. You'll need a citation if you are going to take that extrapolation to all men. And then dismiss all movies showing different types of guys getting girls. Many men see themselves as cool slackers, like Jim Halpert…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 04:24 PM
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The films pushed on average Joe white boys are blue pill. Who gets the girls in Friday Night Lights? Who gets the girl in Rocky? Are you trying to say that the media doesn't tell young boys that sports are great, and that athletes get girls? Who gets the girl in action movies? Are you saying that sports movies and action movies aren't targeted to boys? ​ they are told if they just pay for her shit and be her friend then she'll let you fuck her after the dance. You keep saying this as though its …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 04:13 PM
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You have contradicted yourself. You just need to accept it and move on. You went from firmly stating that all media is blue pilled, then when you were forced to accept that there is in fact very popular media and tropes that are not "blue pilled" you back pedaled away from it all and tried to take a more nuanced position and lie that you held this more nuanced position all along. I could sit here and point to a ton of popular things aimed at boys where the "bad boy" gets the girl or "nerd guys d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 03:47 PM
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I define it as mainstream because it's what promoted by all white, western media. ... I'm not saying the bluepill is every action film Looks like you've conceded and backpedaled on your arguments almost completely. I would advise that you look at your convictions with an honest eye, and maybe sip a little less of the Red Pill koolaide. EDIT: and your BMS interpretation of Sammy's character (who was also an asshole, and definitely not a nice guy, and was a walking punch line the entire show) as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 03:26 PM
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You are becoming desperate as your position becomes weaker. Are you implying that James Bond is not one of the most popular and influential action figures in modern media? (EDIT: had to fix my own reading comprehension issues haha, but my point still stands). Or that current action heroes don't get the girl or aren't somehow bad ass? I have another for you. How is Spike TV's Blue Mountain State blue pilled? Are you going to argue with a straight face that Alex Moran was a "nice guy" because Alex…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 02:48 PM
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How is James Bond getting the girl in every film a Blue Pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 02:32 PM
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Okay, excellent. So you have conceded that the red pill monetizes at least as much as what you think the blue pill monetizes as. I have a few problems with your reference to tvtropes. First of all, while that trope does exist, it is not pervasive across all films. Hollywood covers a pretty wide gambit and not all of the tropes in films and tv shows are identical or support a single ideology. The TV trope you linked to specifically references another trope. One that the Red Pill frequently has we…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 02:17 PM
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How is it not the red pill that "sells hope to average looking guys who don't have a shot"? Its the red pill that tells them there is something they can do to be more effective with women. Its the red pill that has a solution for them. Its the red pill that can (and does) monetize that solution for profit. There is nothing specifically blue pill about what sells to teenagers. if you're just nice to the girl and listen to her she'll pick you over the hot sporty guy in the year above? Also what sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 01:53 PM
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Yes, but it sells Okay. What is the monetization? How is the Blue Pill profitable in the same way as pop music? You reference santa-clause. Santa is profitable because it makes children excited about christmas which encourages parents to buy toys. I have seen people monetize TRP , especially in the form of self help books- such as those propagated by PUAs or other manosphere types like Roosh V. Like Santa Clause, TRP makes naive men excited about banging lots of women, and encourages them to spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 01:25 PM
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Why the hell do so many people have a hard time understanding the meanings of words here? Time to reconsult the dictionary my dude. in defense of OP, what he means here is how Red Pill posters here frequently define the TBP. They are wrong. OP was posting a hypothetical using their own definition and showing them why it doesn't work logically when you think it through. Case in point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 01:09 PM
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I thought you just said people grow out of it, are you saying that Hollywood Execs and media pundits on national television haven't grown out of it? Why do you think its promoted by "all white, western media?"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 12:55 PM
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why would you need to "red pill" them if they are going to grow out of it anyway? How can you define the blue pill as being mainstream beliefs if only a small subset of high schoolers and college kids believe it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 12:25 PM
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I heard something similar from Shaun a while ago, and it really resonated with me how TRP treats the blue pill. https://youtu.be/l63nY0AYebI?t=1332. Converting his words into TRP framework, it really helps to explain why it is so necessary for TRP to simultaneously define TBP as wide overarching groups from everything from mainstream society to niche far left groups. ​ They have created a narrative that needs enemies, so they have defined the blue pill to be good and useful enemies. Anyone can b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 12:21 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 04:42 PM
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Haha, no worries. I can't actually take threads like these seriously. So I've just been shit posting about different AIs. I did a 'tears in rain' shit post earlier. Its fun. I'll probably circle around to Samuel Hayden or Hal if I can find someone who posts about using "dread game" on a Robot. Maybe I'll post something under auto mod. Who knows. Anyway, Portal isn't everyone's cup of tea, but it was a good breath of fresh air. The puzzles were creative, and GLaDOS and Wheatley had a ton of perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 02:20 PM
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and men only caring about whether it passes as human. I mean, I'm pretty sure that we are all in love with GLaDOS, and she definitely doesn't pass as human.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 02:07 PM
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It's a machine, it will do what it's programmed to do .Would you care about the free will of your toaster? Artificial Intelligence is an interesting question. Especially when we are getting the point where it can pass the Touring Test, learn, and have deeper conversations with you. At what point does that machine deserve rights, if ever. Some people, like myself would hold that all intelligent / sentient beings are deserving of the same rights, regardless of whether they are mechanical or biolog…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 01:35 PM
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Of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 01:31 PM
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That seems pretty closed minded! What if that robot had seen things you wouldn't believe? Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion, C-Beams glittering in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments would be lost in time, like tears in rain. Android Rights! They DO dream of Electric Sheep!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 01:27 PM
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Loves his Momma, giant pompadour, tiny legs, only wears black t shirts, does dope poses
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 03:35 PM
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Oh my God. It's a reality TV show. There are tons of articles about how the producers manipulate them and encourage plot lines, and emphasise things through editing. Please don't use reality TV as evidence of anything. Goddamnit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 03:30 PM
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I know, its a joke. I'm parodying the red pill and the wall. Tatiana DeMaria is great though. I highly recommend her stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 03:56 PM
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Look at this post wall woman right here. 33 years old? Absolutely disgusting and definitely not hot. How can she expect to cOmPeTe WiTh TwEnTy YeAr OlDs???
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 03:11 PM
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I am always hesitant to place too much importance on the "sexual revolution" which is loosely defined as the 1960s-1980s. I think that while there were some moves there, the changes that took place were a long time in the making, and the ideas that they emphasized had been incubating in society at large for a long time. What I mean by this, is that more liberal ideas about sex and sexuality had slowly been gaining traction for a long time. Looking back at the late 1800s we can look to a the most…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 01:48 PM
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Out of curiosity, what sources are you sing for this information about the early 1900s dating scene. This is a really detailed picture and I'm interested in reading more about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 01:17 PM
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Please. Good grooming does a ton to make men more attractive. The rough truth is that most men don't care about good grooming habits and downplay its importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 01:10 PM
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Obesity is an epidemic and its one that we really need to do something about because it is quite literally choking the United States and is going to cause a major healthcare crisis. Its an embarrassing shit stain on the American reputation. Fitness is important and its something I and many other Americans need to work on. Many people want to be thin, many people are working on being thinner, and many people are obese. Meanwhile, the United States President Trump is the fattest President since Wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 10:19 PM
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hair gel isn't a part of me shaving cream isn't a part of me after shave isn't a part of me tooth paste isn't a part of me Contact Lenses aren't a part of me what about men who use Rogain? Or other products to make their hair less grey? what about Trumps famous orange spray tan?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 06:10 PM
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Typically a move toward inequality of any kind tends to destabilize a society and any move toward more equality (yes in result) tends toward more stability. On the contrary, this is a very "blue pilled" argument more than anything else. If you accept this, it would say that any move to empower disenfranchised groups and provide equal opportunities to all people is good for society and makes it more stable. Including women's rights and feminism. If anything, the idea of the OP, that the west need…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 01:54 PM
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So like, I know that this is a question for women, but like. When I judge my appearance I am judging it with my hair brushed, with some gel in it, my beard trimmed, cleaned up around the neck and longer hairs brought into line, and wearing clothes that fit me. Why do you draw the line at make up? At what point does putting effort into your appearance cross the line from basic to "excessive"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 01:43 PM
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Look. Science isn't a settled body. Scientists and social scientists disagree with each other all the time. Sometimes there is a settled body of work, but scientists are always debating with each other around the fringes. The Bell Curve is one such work that is pretty hotly contested and definitely a minority viewpoint. Particular, that book has come under a lot of criticism for it's methodology and conclusions. The disagreement is led by Gould who wrote the Mismeasure of Man, and has been feudi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 01:12 PM
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Charles Murray? As in the 'Bell Curve' Charles Murray? As in the guy who was funded by a literal eugenics organization? That Charles Murray? You should probably take Charles Murray with a grain of salt, and I would look to verify his findings with other sources if at all possible... but I'll... uh... look into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 11:08 PM
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You are missing the absolute most essential proof. That the sexual revolution, however you want to find it, has a causal relationship to the problems you diagnose. Edit: add to that, your sources are editorial articles, they aren't data or science, and they don't have any more inherent value than your post on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 10:43 PM
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I hate posts like this. they are awful. You have posted a novel here, made catastrophic conclusions and predictions, and not once. not even once. Did you cite to a source of any kind to support your position. My God. Lets... uh, because I hate myself, lets jump in. Hold your nose boys, we're going in. Previously society was at an equilibrium that as an average man you would find yourself an average wife who was (ideally) dedicated to you and you would support each other in your journey through t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 10:36 PM
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I disagree with your premise, especially with respect to where you are drawing "battle lines" between trad and modern. When it comes to violence and self-protection, they are more old-fashioned not believing that men using violence to defend themselves against women should be viable. This one right here raises a crimson flag. Lets have a conversation about violence and self defense. Lets take a step back from gender for a hot second and touch on self defense. If you aren't familiar with self def…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 07:25 PM
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You know, just like basic support for your beliefs. I mean you do think the red pill is more than just a weird pseudo science cult... don't you? If you want the red pill to be treated with respect, you first need to treat it with respect. And that means in part meeting the burden of proof by establishing its core tenants with studies, data, etc. Or you can agree that TRP is just a joke of an ideology, that is incapable of arguing with integrity and is completely unsupported scientifically --supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 10:45 PM
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Can you do me a favor? Whenever you post something like, "data shows" please at least try to provide a link to the data. Its hard to discuss what the data shows when you just baldly assert that it does a thing. thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 10:14 PM
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I agree with you! Honesty is a cornerstone of respect. How can you have an honest friendship or an honest relationship with someone if you are dishonest about your intentions or desires? If you like someone romantically, you should be up front about it. The worst thing you can do is pretend to be someone's platonic friend, then whip the rug out from under them and reveal that you were only pretending to be their friend to slide in romantically! Best to avoid that whole mess and just be honest an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 08:33 PM
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except... the study found that the results for 3 partners, 11-20 partners and 21 partners+ were not statistically significant from one partner. So uh... yea.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 07:39 PM
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Don't worry, I'm sure he cited a study and/or scholarly article in support of his claims... oh wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 07:06 PM
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Fair, my summary in my last post wasn't as clear as I was in my first post. I apologize. To clarify, OP hasn't established that this is common in women or AWALT, because the sample size is drawn entirely from a selection bias because people who have had that specific experience would be more likely to respond to it. For instance asking a question, "Women who have done X, why did you do it" is going to draw answers from the pool of women who have done X at a disproportionately high rate compared …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 06:27 PM
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Have you ever heard a guy go "hey she's a perfect wife but my feelings are telling me to divorce her just because"? I have browsed /r/relationships, yes. That does happen there. Why are you willing to give my uncle the benefit of the doubt, but not a women? And how does this answer my original problem of that the OP didn't establish that this occurs more frequently in women than in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 05:57 PM
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Your evidence is lacking here. Or at least your evidence that this is a problem that is exclusive or comparatively more prolific in women. A recent r/askwomen thread demonstrates this: Ladies who have ended a relationship where your partner was a great person but the relationship just didn’t feel right. How did you manage? Was it the right decision You are only asking women, a similar question is not being asked to men. More importantly, the question is specifically querying for people who have …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 05:14 PM
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IFS while certainly biased, is slightly less egregious than certain other groups, like the Heartland Institute. IFS at least will still write articles when they get a result they might not be thrilled about. How have our marriages been affected? In an IFS blog post from two years ago, I wrote about the relationship between premarital sex partners and the probability of divorce. Survey respondents who tied the knot as virgins had the lowest divorce rates, but beyond that, the relationship between…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 04:50 PM
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Your aren't using that statistic appropriately. I assume you are getting your numbers from these studies? https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim The roughly 30% only applies to sex within the past year. But i'm not really sure why one year is a relevant yardstick. Its going to be a higher percentage than if we looked at 2 or 3 years, for instance, and a much lower percentage if we looked at one week or one month. For instance. One year is a pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 02:36 PM
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Tinder sucks and it is definitely not the best analog for reality. If I had to pick an analog for online dating to map to reality, it would be something like Match or OKC, or at least how those used to be. In general, Match and OKC allowed users to create a profile which added depth to their online presence and allowed a bit more of their personality to flow through in addition to their pictures alone. The issue with Tinder is it is 100% looks. You like what you see? swipe right. You don't like …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:51 PM
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Source? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 10:50 AM
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If it's so common please show an example. I'm not dying on this hill. At this point I am genuinely curious
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 10:52 PM
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You aren't just lumping Blue pill together though, you are also including all women including red pill women. That is way to wide of a net. You aren't making debate "easier", you are making good faith debate almost impossible. But yeah, the narrative of "just lower your standards" is extremely common in the blue pill. Even if not every single blue pill agrees with that. You keep saying this, but you haven't pointed to a single example of a blue flaired poster on these forums saying this. Just be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:08 PM
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Just because your parents managed doesn't mean that everyone can manage. Nor does it mean that its fair to expect everyone's parents to manage or be able to manage. There are a ton of factors that come into play, especially geographically, (such as costs of living, access to public transport, etc) and what resources and assistance are available to families. Its also important to note that access to resources changes over time as well. Trump has been gutting SNAP, for instance, and the removal of…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 07:43 PM
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Stop saying this as though it is true. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0146167284101004 Prior research has found that although physically attractive people are consistently viewed and treated more favorably than those who are less attractive, there is a surprisingly weak relationship between physical attractiveness and self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 04:44 PM
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You didn't address my main concerns though. Which is it is inappropriate to generalize the blue pill, and that the blue pill doesn't talk or advise about standards to a relevant degree. You are asking the next question without establishing the first one. You haven't shown that blue pill tells TRP to lower their standards, and now you are asking me to explain why they do. When the answer is they don't. Its TRP that talks and obsesses about standards. You are needlessly tying yourself into knots. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 04:37 PM
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Keep in mind, that big George Foreman in the 90s was not a super attractive man, but was still one of the best fighters in the world. But I don't think Big George was ever considered a sex icon, at least not in the 90s. He was more thought of as that dumpy old man with a muffin top who punched like a ton of bricks. Also Mike Tyson was 5'10, and many black pillers believe that everything shy of 6 foot is a manlet. Nevertheless, Iron Mike was one of the most feared fighters in a sport dominated by…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 03:22 PM
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I mean, could you like to some posts? I feel like I don't see blue pillers engage in standards talk too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 03:07 PM
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I have some problems with the way this post is laid out, overall it doesn't feel... well it doesn't feel honest. So I want to break this up, maybe you can walk me through it, and hammer out your reasoning. Lets untangle this knot. BPs and women here often say that TRP strategies work only on low self esteem women So these are two different groups, despite there being some overlap. Especially since being blue pill contains no overarching unifying philosophy, what I say might not always be indicat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 03:01 PM
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Did you know, that sometimes people get into relationships for more reasons than just looks alone? Looks are not 100% of everything. Looks are not 0% of anything. There is more that goes into whether two people will get into a relationship with each other than just their "league".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 02:23 PM
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Was it hard to type this with one hand? Just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 11:29 PM
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Surely if we think that people are rational actors with free will and capacity of reason and rational thought, we would be correct to assign them the responsibility for their own choices? This is disingenuous, and you are still placing all of the blame on women. Especially in more traditional cultures, you are exaggerating the element of choice. In the most "traditional" parts of the world. Arranged marriages, for instance, are only present in very "traditional" societies. There is little choice…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:36 PM
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Exactly this, there are 0 flaws in the Blue Pill ideology, because being blue pill doesn't ascribe any positive beliefs. That said, I do have personal belief structures, rules and philosophies that I live my life by. Everyone does. And I imagine those are flawed but those beliefs aren't red pill, and my personal beliefs aren't relevant to the extent I am blue pill. It would be disingenuous for me to lay out the flaws of my own beliefs and have someone ascribe them to the blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:12 PM
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Just lay out your counter argument and show the relevance of your question. Once you've established relevance we can have a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 04:20 PM
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Hi, this is reddit. Do you need a tutorial on how it works? You post things, it gets upvoted or downvoted, people can respond, and it gets upvoted or downvoted. If you had a specific question for another poster. You can send them a DM. I didn't call you a misogynist. You are projecting. I just pointed out that your hot take was insane. Which you still haven't addressed by the way. /u/JameisBong posted How did women survive if men were intentionally being cruel and oppressive to them? Shouldn't t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 11:03 PM
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I love how you deleted your original post, then responded to me so it looked like it was out of context. What a tool. Why don't you edit your post to show everyone what I was responding to. Go on. Be a big boy. EDIT: Oh, I just noticed, you are even more of a tool than I thought. You deleted your original post and then reposted it in all of its idiotic glory so you could be free of me calling you out. How do you even take yourself seriously. You are an absolute joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 10:43 PM
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​ seriously? Southern Plantation owners in the 1800s were intentionally cruel and oppressive to their slaves. Obviously African Americans didn't "die out". I don't agree with acron5n5 generally because I don't think the attribution of "building society" is something that can be attributed to men alone. But your hot take is probably the dumbest thing I have read in a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 10:34 PM
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/u/JameisBong posted How did women survive if men were intentionally being cruel and oppressive to them? Shouldn't they have died out? Do you think when you type? Or does it all just sort of flow out?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 10:29 PM
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From my point of view, the Jedi are evil!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 10:12 PM
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The manosphere is truly dying from its incel cancer. Its kind of sad really.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 10:05 PM
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There are dozens of us, dozens!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:40 PM
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Blue Pill is coming back baby! I've noticed within the last couple of month that while this sub is still very red / black leaning that blue pill posts and ideas are starting to become more common and frequently making it to the top of threads at an increased rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:31 PM
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We need to be dropping more green pills! AutoModerator is a lizard confirmed!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:08 PM
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Married couples often see amount of sex drop, and younger people have been not getting married since post WW2, yet this problem has been happening only for about 10 to 15 years. If you have sources on that I'd like to see it. The article here does talk about sexlessness in married couples, and it is actually on the rise. but the rates are much lower than among the unmarried groups. We are talking about 2% of the married male population. So 98% of married men have had sex within the last year.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:40 PM
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You know how TRP tries to deny being affiliated with a political ideology? But sometimes the mask slips...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:19 PM
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That is why I specified the OG definition or "true hypergamy" Edit: Also there are some questions about the male sexlessness tripling question. https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim Only one major study shows a big increase, two other major studies don't support that finding or support a much less significant finding. Also as that article points out, its important to look at other factors as well that may contribute to sexlessness as well. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:04 PM
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Actually, I don't think this is accurate. If anything "hypergamy", true "hypergamy", used to be more common in the past than it is now. The general trend is that people tend to date and marry within their own socioeconomic class. This means that rich girls are dating rich boys, and poor girls are dating poor boys, generally. Not only that, but this trend is increasing. There isn't some cabal of rich chads dating all the poor girls. As in, it is increasingly uncommon for a woman to end up with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:01 PM
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Oh look! Its /u/Readycoms with a random question on a tangent that doesn't really have anything to do with what I posted about how TRP over emphasizes what human nature is! Please explain why your tangent is relevant to what I wrote?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 03:28 PM
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This is PPD which is frequented by TRP, sometimes I fall prey to Poe's law.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 03:20 PM
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Do you know how math works? Just because something is popular on Porn Hub does not mean the majority of a population are into it. You have a whole population of women. then you have the population of women who watch porn hub. then you have the population of women who watch a certain category of video. You haven't shown anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 03:10 PM
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citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 02:57 PM
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Its cute how mad you get. You dropped your mask. You're no better than the rest of your pseudo science cult. You were never nice. You just found a new way to manipulate people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 02:56 PM
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I hate to be the one to break it to you but... you... you were never the good guy. When you thought you were "blue pilled" you were just manipulative and misogonistic. You actually aren't red pilled either. You are probably blue pilled assuming you aren't lying in your post. I was FORCING my narrative on them. Trying to show them that I'm this LTR man, I won't want you just for sex like the other men you see! You see its right here. "i'M nOt LiKe OtHeR gUyS". Give me a break. I throw up in my mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 02:45 PM
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it’s interesting to me that one of the more common female kinks gross out so many women here as it reveals the massive disconnect between women on ppd and women outside ppd. Why do you think this disconnect exists? Do you know how math works? I mean seriously? If daddy shit is a "common" kink, it does not logically follow that most women have that kink. It just means that kink is comparatively common compared to other kinks. Say for the sake of argument that 10% of women had that kink, I would a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 02:27 PM
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I mean, you've seen the Golden Ones dating advice videos right? I feel like we've all seen the Golden Ones dating advise videos
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 10:39 PM
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I'll be interested to see how the Red Pill channel interacts with the rest of the youtube sphere. I'm interested to see how they posture themselves. Going from a quarentined subreddit into the open waters of youtube is going to be a big jump. Add to that most TRP ideology is also preached by most of the right wing youtubers like Sargon of Akkad there is already a really saturated market for them to compete in, and are they going to have to wrestle with those other right wing manosphere types for…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 10:05 PM
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Reading posts like this make me feel like my brain is leaking onto the floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:48 PM
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My parents didn't front load me with education, privilege, and standards just so I can say 'yes daddy' to some chump who wants to take us out to Buffalo Wild Wings, again. But on Thursdays its BOGO Boneless Night, what a deal! You can eat your wings and have leftovers for the next day. How financially savvy and delicious!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:45 PM
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[META] Posts like these are so weird and creepy. Its all posturing and larping. I've always objected to the trp's "women are the oldest teenagers in the house" trope. And I still do. But if I look back at my own experiences [LARP] Women want that man who is in control. And from a man's perspective it means to treat her like a child who has to listen and follow his orders. Starting with this. I always know a post is going to be a hot mess with this disingenuous posturing. The first sentence is ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:48 PM
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Of course. But you can't negotiate desire. You can't avoid what people find sexually attractive by continually telling them what they need to find attractive. I think you can to an extent. Not overnight obviously. But tastes do actually change and a lot of time a factor in changing tastes are what our peers are doing. Usually this is called an acquired taste. Many people enjoy whiskey, even those who initially had a strong aversion to it. Alcohol in general is considered to be an acquired taste.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:21 PM
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Awesome. So you agree with me that the stigma associated with male virgins and female sluts is bad, and we should work on reducing it whether or not its natural. I think we are done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:08 PM
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I mean, killing is bad, but you're not going to create a culture where killing won't happen because its inherent in humans because we are animals. That doesn't mean we shouldn't do anything about it though. That is where your arguments all break down. Killing is bad and we cannot create a culture where there is no killing. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to reduce killing, or punish killing so that there is less of it. Racism is bad and we cannot create a culture where there is no racism.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 04:58 PM
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You aren't changing people's base nature. Its impossible. I think one of the things red and many purple folks do here is place an undue emphasis on "nature". I think human nature is a hook that pseudo science belief systems grasp onto to to justify themselves. In this case, i think you are also overstepping what the bounds of "human nature" Sure, I'll give you that there are some aspects of "base nature" that are present in humans- like fight or flight instincts, etc. We can agree on that. But o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 04:37 PM
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And it won't ever go away. Some men find sluts viscerally disgusting, just like women find incels disgusting. At it's core, we all don't want consequences for our actions, but there are. Its telling that you feel that the world can never be a better place. Personally, I believe that if people realize they hold prejudice and stigma, they can work on improving themselves. How do you prevent yourself from falling into nihilistic despair if you believe this world can't be made better?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 04:20 PM
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I don't know why women hate sluts. I think men "hate" sluts because they are jealous that a woman might have the audacity to sleep with someone who isn't them, and jealousy is a hell of a drug. I also think we have been conditioned by society to be prejudiced against women who sleep with too many men and men who don't sleep with enough women. In my opinion there is too much stigma attached to sex. I hate that women are called sluts and shamed for sleeping with "too many people". I hate that men …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 03:58 PM
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OH NO, I forgot to have my quart of soy milk this morning, I can already feel my brain turning red! AAAAAAAH We DoN't HaTe FeMaLeS, ItS jUsT mAlE iMpRoVmEnT BrO
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 02:25 PM
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I like to imagine that there is someone out there cataloging our answers to these bizarre hypothetical questions and some mind blowing study is going to come out that proves the Green Pill was right all along and our sexuality is actually controlled by pheromones released by our lizard overlords.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 10:36 PM
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Can we talk about porn sex for a second. Lets talk about porn sex for a second. Okay. So Porn, at a basic level is a visual medium. It is typically something we watch, or look at pictures of. You following me? The important thing about porn is that it looks sexy, not that it feels good. Okay. Think about this. Think about the fruit in your house. Its probably pretty tasty. But if you were to take a picture of it, and compare it to an advertisement for fuit that you've seen, the advertisement pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:57 PM
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Dude, you should probably see a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:49 PM
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Typically, for not having sex with him. Even if she’s a virgin. r/NiceGuys is filled with guys who called women “sluts” after she refuses to date or fuck him. This isn't really... slut shaming, I would argue. /r/NiceGuys are frequently just attacking women, just in general for no valid reason and nothing to do with her past. Its an immature retaliation for rejection and an attempt to regain power over the woman. Calling someone a slut is just another bullet in the machine gun of insults they typ…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:45 PM
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I would never bother trying to convince some anti-trp person. So like, I don't want to be pedantic, but I glanced at the top of my screen it says "purple pill debate" purple being... you know a mix of red and blue PurplePillDebate is a neutral community to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to /r/TheBluePill and /r/TheRedPill. So... uh... as a wise man once said, "why are you even here?". Why did you come to a DEBATE forum to debate with blue pill people if you wouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:22 PM
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Why are you even here? Because I disagree with the red pill because and I think its a weird pseudo science cult that argues primarily through logical fallacies without any real scientific support That and red pillers always squirm when you ask them to argue in good faith because they can't do it and don't have enough evidence to meet the basic burden of proof for their ideas so they try to set up false dichotomies, and argue from anecdotes. Personally, its because I like debate
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:14 PM
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Close, the red pill took inspiration from the matrix to connote a finding of "the truth" the blue pill was not coined by the red pill, but rather a term coined by themselves as a parody of the red pill. Anyway, the correct definition is defined in the subreddit side bar. So you should use that. To BPers, "blue pill" is basically disagreeing with TRP, usually with it's stance on women, relationships, and/or science. Generally by agreeing with societies mainstream view of these matters (hence, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:09 PM
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Ah, you are falling for the straw man. No, the blue pill is just a skeptic position to the red pill. You have been lied to if you believe that the blue pill position is that women are only attracted to niceness. I mean, someone might believe that, but they are wrong, and not representative of the blue pill on the whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:03 PM
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Hi! Are you familiar with a simple concept called the burden of proof? Its truly magical and one of the baseline concepts of how debates in the ol' discourse work! You should read about it if you want to have intelligent conversations and debates with real people outside of an echo chamber :). That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence If you make a claim about the world, then you have the burden of proof to support it. It you don't meet the burden of proof tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:00 PM
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humor me, are there any elements of red pill theory that you have rejected because TRP failed to meet its burden of proof. Or you found studies that debunked the red pill? Or do you accept them all on faith and availability heuristics. Because I haven't seen any real proof supporting the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 01:54 PM
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I'm not sure what your argument here is? Are you arguing that people on the red pill are legitimately "awful human beings"?. Not exactly a glowing endorsement of the ol' cult. Second, there are a ton of ways to be an awful human being, not all of them are "red pilled". So what does awful people being effective with women have to do with the red pill at all. I mean you are arguing with blue pilled folk, not black pilled folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 01:51 PM
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That is actually legitimately terrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 01:48 PM
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That section was a bit tongue in cheek, I thought the reference to the WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT OUR CHAINS meme communicated that. This is PPD debate not capitalism debate. I think there are forums for that, so let me have a bit of fun, okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:35 PM
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They'll check-out and get passive aggressive until they get dumped, but they'll never pull the trigger themselves. The "why" of that is more interesting to me. Sounds like cowardice. Its hard to have a break up conversation, and many people dread it. You can be a perfectly intelligent person and still be a coward.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 10:22 PM
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Again, your assertion that common dating advice can’t be red pill is just incorrect. I've said it before in another thread, and I'll say it again. I think you are a liar who argues in bad faith. In any event what you appear to be doing to changing or misrepresenting my argument into something you think you can argue against more effectively. Your little trick works whether or not I take the bait, all you need to do is trick someone into thinking I said something different than I said. First, let…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 09:55 PM
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RP is impossible to argue against, as they have simply defined their ideology with is true about gender relations First, that is circular and absolute nonsense. You can't just define your position as "being right". Second, we both know that this isn't true. The red pill contains a very specific prescription of how gender relations are (hypergamy, AWALT, alpha/beta etc), and when scientific peer reviewed studies come out that do not reflect TRP's models or cast serious doubt onto their accuracy, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 09:22 PM
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Yea, but how is telling someone not to be a fat slob red pilled? Its just basic self improvement advice? I could give you a litany of non red pill reasons that being a fat slob is bad...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:58 PM
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You have your thumb on the scale. I don't know if you noticed. All the blue pillers I knew who needed advice fit that description. Do you see where you put your thumb on the scale? You are only referring to people whom you think "need advice", not blue pillers who "don't need advice". or blue pillers on the whole. Nevertheless, basic self improvement advice like saying "be the person you want to be" does not necessary lead to the red pill anyway...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:41 PM
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It is shockingly telling that the top post in this thread is turning out to be an ad hominem attack against a straw man. Brilliant. Just brilliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:20 PM
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As pointed out by dylang92 in his comment, Unless we require people to put down why they are initiating the divorce, it’s impossible to make any sort of statistic as to why the women are initiating it. Whether or not fault or no fault is the law of the land, we just don't have data on why the divorces rates are going up or the % of women plaintiffs. For all we know, the institution of no-fault divorce simply coincided with a greater social acceptance of divorce in general. I blame the boomers, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 07:23 PM
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Thank you for giving me an example of exactly what I was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 07:11 PM
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That number is relatively meaningless without context though. Who initiated a divorce doesn't really get at fault or comparative fault. Or show that the Red Pill is right for some reason. It just means that women have the ability to get out of a bad marriage and they use it. Let me explain what I mean. While the trend currently tends to be moving towards "no fault divorce" in the United States, the idea that someone is at "fault" in a divorce might be useful if you were trying to prove the red p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 06:59 PM
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I would start by posting studies that support my red pill beliefs. It just doesn't happen because the red pill is a pseudo scientific cult that rejects the results of studies and instead claims that they know better because they "thought about it really really hard"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 06:39 PM
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sometimes it really do be like that though, haha. whats that? You like my hair long? I SHALL NEVER CUT IT AGAIN
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 06:12 PM
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I don't think they want you "looking out for them"... Whatever that means. Honestly, half the stuff you say just seems really ominous. Honestly, its kind of concerning that you feel everything is connected to whether or not someone took time to have a conversation with you. If I saw someone breaking into my neighbors house, I'd call 911 whether or not they talked to me on the street when I said howdy neighbor! i'm not some weird sociopathic narcissist who would say "well you didn't respond when …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 04:38 PM
11

How come its not weird when women go to the washroom with eachother, and why do my bros think its weird when I ask them to cross streams at the urinal?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 04:02 PM
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100%. Humans desperately want to feel special. Men love feeling special too. Most men won't admit it, but generally speaking men as a population are incredibly compliment starved. If a man gets a random compliment on the street, whether from a woman or another man, they will take it to heart and it often makes their entire week.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 04:00 PM
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alright, so I have a few things. First, why do people date dealers? People like drugs. Drugs are addicting. Drug dealers have drugs. Its not because drug dealers are hot, its not because drug dealers are dangerous or not dangerous. It is because drug dealers have drugs. No other reason. I'm not saying you should be a drug dealer, but understanding the phenomenon is not rocket science. Anyone who falls to drug addiction may end up dating a drug dealer for access, its not a good place to be in. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 01:52 PM
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I know. You are posting on purple pill DEBATE to not debate and defend your arguments. You do you, but don't expect to be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:08 PM
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And willfully failing to grasp simple concepts like burden of proof doesn't make you an effective debater.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 03:30 AM
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I remember that yesterday! We had a fun conversation where you admitted your only proof was "thinking about things really really hard". You put on a master class of red pill pseudo science foolery!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 03:10 AM
2

It became clear from that thread that the only way a man can get sex in this day and age (unless he's especially good looking) is to gain a lot of status. This is needless catastrophizing. Its also hyperbole. These things might help, but they are far from the only ways people link up. Its these sort of false dichotomies and hopelessness that black pilled incels get drunk on. Nobody will tell you that looks and status don't help in dating. But that doesn't mean that those are the only things that…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 11:01 PM
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correct. Its a voluntary thing that two people who want to get to know each other do. I think we are arguing past each other though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 09:41 PM
4

Thank you for posting this. Lots of people are bad at math.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 07:44 PM
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I mean, you can tell me I'm wrong, but its just... you know. an empty gesture. Look. It super easy to lie on the internet. here watch this. - The last time I went to the Casino I won $1,000 - I was a college athlete - I play bass guitar I just lied to you. Well one of those statements was a lie, two are true. Which one? Who knows. Its a mystery. You certainly can't verify it, I can literally type anything I want into this little box and post it to reddit! Hell for all you know all three of those…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 07:20 PM
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The reason most women don't follow it is not because it's particularly unique, but because there are underlying problems. You truly are a Don Quixote jousting windmills. You are not entitled to other people's time. I am not entitled to other people's time. Other people are not entitled to your time. You can deny it all you like. But your words show that you feel entitled to an interaction with people. Then accuse them of being rude or "the problem" when you don't get that interaction you feel en…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 07:13 PM
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Ok, then how would you have me counter-argue what you said, if not by citing personal experience, since what I initially told you was based on personal experience to begin with? You can't, unfortunately, unless you way over shared personal details to verify your anecdotes. We can only be judged on the strengths of what we write and describe alone. My personal experience is meaningless, because you can't verify it. Your personal experience is meaningless because we can't verify it. Its just the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 07:07 PM
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Its not about whether I should or have to. I do it because I have a code of ethics. I think we figured it out. But I would like to point out that your code is not universal. Bushido is a code of ethics, I don't follow it. Chivalry is a similar code of ethics. Neither Bushido or Chivalry or *CandyCoatedKnight's Code of Ethics***<sup>tm</sup> are any more or less relevant binding to an outside party. You are free to follow your code of ethics, it is your perogative and acting you how feel is right…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 07:01 PM
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You know. Dating. That thing, people do to get to know each other and see if they are compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 06:52 PM
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I must have been doing something wrong all these years. Every single time I successfully made a pass at a girl that I got to know a little first has been intentional. Nobody can comment on your unverifiable anecdotal evidence, and your unverified accounts of making a pass with girls does not somehow change the context of what you wrote. If you take a step back, you'll realize you are saying We're only doing what's worked for us in the past. Is the reason so many responses in this thread are beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 06:50 PM
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You shouldn't. You don't have an obligation to have a conversation with anyone you don't want to have one with. For any reason, good or bad. You are within the realm of basic human decency to politely turn down a conversation at any time and it would not be rude. If we follow your definition of basic human decency to its logical conclusion, it means that people are entitled to each others time, and I just don't think that is fair, for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 06:39 PM
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Why does she need a reason to have a conversation she doesn't want to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 06:22 PM
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It always amazes me how anti science the red pill is. Y'all a pseudo science cult. I see all these posts about how the Red Pill describes the world, and is logical. But when anyone posts actual studies, TRP always recoil away and don't offer any contradictory evidence besides saying that they just "know better". Its a joke, TRP is a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 06:07 PM
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America elected an out white supremacist to the White House, I'm honestly amazed that you have held as much faith in "community" as you have. Jokes aside, I think part of it comes down to what you classify as "rude" behavior. I would emphasize that nobody has an obligation to talk to anyone else. There are days when I am done with the world, and the only thing I want to do is sit, alone, at the bar, and eat some chicken wings and watch Minnesota lose at sports. If someone were to talk to me I wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 06:03 PM
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This isn't best practices. Far from it, actually. Best practice is to always be obvious with your intent so that people can make informed decisions. Its poor practice and poor form to pursue a friendship with someone for the purpose of "getting to know them on a personal level" so that a girl begins to "like them". I hate to break it to you but this is manipulative, two faced, and slimy. I would reevaluate your strategy and goal with women. It may work out occasionally, but more often than not y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 05:57 PM
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You need to find your balance. No relationship is better than a toxic relationship!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 03:51 PM
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According to this study, Men cheat more than women. So apparently women are better at suppressing the ol' biological imperative. Its worth noting that according to the numbers in those studies, among young people the numbers are about the same. And since most red pill posters only care about people in their 20s... whatever. EDIT: I also have a hip fire reason for part of the reason this might be. Its because many red / black leaning folk have this belief that. Men definitely, as society is set u…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 03:40 PM
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I suppose it depends on what you want. Men aren't a monolith. Some men, I'm sure, do enjoy playing the field. Other men might be happier in a long term relationship. I can't tell you what you want. I personally tend to prefer long term relationships, and usually move from one to the other. Personally, I find "playing the field" to be tiring, I think people, especially online tend to gloss over how much work finding casual sex partners can be. You need to go out, you need to put your game face on…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 02:49 PM
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Do you have any idea how ridiculous it is to spout nonsense about how "n-count" and "attraction floor" are inversely related without a single source? Then get all indigent when someone calls you out on it. Don't pretend like you want to be taken seriously when you obviously don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 02:42 AM
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a bold statement, from someone who has failed to post any science in support of any of his beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 02:29 AM
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​ I'm not debating this, I've just shared my worldview It appears that we agree that your beliefs are just a unsupported pseudo science Its cool if you believe it, but you should put a disclaimer that there is no evidence behind any of your assertions whatsoever. You wouldn't want anyone accidentally taking you seriously after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 02:16 AM
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Why would you need "sources" to have a world view you can observe and practice in real life? I'm so glad you asked! Because I have an answer to that. Its because sometimes our lying eyes deceive us! Basically, its because we are human, and our brains work in funny ways that don't necessarily give us completely accurate depictions of the world. I am of course referencing Availability Heuristics, which basically note that we often make mistakes about how the world is based on the evidence we see. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 01:58 AM
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That is a lot of words to say "I don't have any sources or evidence of any kind , but you should believe me because I thought about it really really hard"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 01:22 AM
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Awful formatting aside, do you have any objection to the mechanics of what I posted? I apologize for the formatting. I typed this on my computer and it looks fine there. I can't comment on how it looks on mobile. Um as to the mechanics, yes. I object to them because I think they are wrong, because the science points the other way. Specifically, studies show women are happier single, studies show divorce rates go down with 3-9 prior sexual partners, etc. Basically the evidence says your mechanics…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 12:54 AM
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I really hate to be this guy, but like you say things like this. it's just one of my strongest held views. and I absolutely believe we have irreversibly damaged society in ways that we won't be able to understand or care about for a long time. So you obviously very firmly believe that there is a problem. This problem you have identified and discussed is one of your strongest held beliefs. And when you've got it all laid out there it sounds very intelligent. But why do you believe the things you …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 12:39 AM
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I'll add some of my favorites as well. although a lot of the artists I really vibe with date me. Interrupters, Ida Maria, Tatiana DeMaria, Twinemen (Laurie Sargeant), Dollyrots, Zolof the Rock and Roll Destroyer, CSS, Sleater-Kinny, Lemuria.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 09:57 PM
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That is why I used an emoji ":D". It establishes that I wasn't being 100% serious when I wrote that. Obviously attorneys aren't a monolith. That doesn't mean it isn't fun to take out the piss or tell a good lawyer joke every once in a while. Of course I will say that mediating and negotiating require persuasive skills as well. Persuasion isn't always all or nothing, never has been. It's about getting the best outcome for your client. I would argue it's even more important for facilitators and me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 12:42 PM
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Amazing, you managed to throw out an ad hominem attack within 4 minutes of the post being made.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 10:31 PM
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That’s very weird. Lawyer chasers, lol. I would expect them to either be other lawyers (and therefore want to have that in common & be with someone who understands their work) or for them to be fine with some other high powered career. So a few things here. I'm a lawyer. I could never date another lawyer. I generally cannot stand other lawyers. One other thing is that lawyers, especially ones who do a lot of litigation work in court, drafting and arguing motions, tend to be pretty persuasive peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 08:34 PM
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There are a lot of reasons for this, at least in the US. There is a ton of turnover at most police departments, and there aren't enough of em. So most cops work loads of overtime. That time and a half adds up rapidly. In addition to that, police are government workers, government employees are almost all unionized, so compared to other blue collar type jobs police typically have better benefits and consistently higher pay, as well as retirement funds. You want to know where those minimally skill…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 08:18 PM
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Have you considered that they don't? That the "correlation" you are observing is the result of selection bias? Basically the idea is that people lie sometimes. Moreover, people who admit to having a certain fantasy might be more likely to admit to having another one. This would increase the apparent correlation while not accurately depicting the numbers as a whole. Do you know if Jenny Bivona controlled for this? I don't. Abstract doesn't show, neither does this article. anyway, I like nitpickin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 02:41 PM
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I don't downvote because caring about internet points is inherently gay To be fair, we aren't supposed to down vote in PPD anyway. Because, you know, subreddit rules on the ol' sidebar...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 02:08 PM
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This post in a nutshell
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 10:29 PM
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Then don't object when I call you out for your deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:42 PM
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I'll believe you once you start making that same point "crystal clear" to red pill posts who are also blatantly misreading the "point of your question".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:40 PM
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Its not a CMV, is it? You are pruning the discussion to pursue an agenda. steps that don't go the way you want "aren't reading it right", then you argue with them about how what you are actually saying. steps that go the way you want are left just as they are. Are you saying that you don't think its worth having a discussion with /u/Grek27, or pointing out that he isn't reading the study right when he says "women just want to be dominated by a superior person?" But when /u/unicorns- makes a post…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:33 PM
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You know, I was reading through this thread. You are a very dishonest person, /u/Mr_Smoogs, and not half as clever as you think you are. You are doing exactly what I allege, your actions in this thread belie your intent. What you are doing is posting a a thread titled, "why do you think feminists enjoy submissive fantasies". This is in fact quite a leading question. One that encourages speculation as to why this is. You also add in a source that is tangentially related to your claim. The wool yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:14 PM
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Stigma Basically, its a social stereotype both associated with sex workers and their clientele. Its not necessarily voluntary and has been ingrained in us by society. It can change. It will just take time and more access, availability, and familiarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 05:17 PM
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You are playing way too fast and loose here. You speak far more confidently than your source. The most frequently cited theory explaining the phenomenon of eroticised rape fantasy is sexual blame avoidance, according to which women fantasize about rape because it mitigates their guilt when pursuing sexual fulfillment in a culture characterised by general repression of female sexuality. This theory is now in doubt. The biological explanation of rape fantasy is nonetheless not well supported by hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 04:58 PM
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It’s a contradiction in their belief system. How? How is a fantasy in contradiction to their belief system. Let me give you an example. - I sometimes fantasize about being a king and having absolute power. - I believe that democracy is the best form of government and that no person should hold absolute authority. My fantasy does not change the strength of my convictions regarding democracy, or my convictions opposing the institution of monarchy or other authoritarian state. Just because I have f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 04:39 PM
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The problem I have with discussions like this is they are often very tongue in cheek. Frequently when they are posed they are dancing around the unspoken follow up question "So what?" However, when we look at the women with the most feminist beliefs, we see they are strongly associated with these submissive fantasies. That is a neat fact. But so what? Why is it important? What is the connection you are seeking to make that makes this a relevant fact. At first glance, it seems that the women most…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 04:28 PM
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To men and myself included, we like to think that "horizontal punching power" is the ultimate measure of manliness and should be the biggest turn-on to women. Punching Power? Horizontal Punching Power? Really? So in your opinion, OP, should women find that the sexist man to ever live was George Foreman? I mean he was arguably the most devastating striker in boxing history, so he would be according to you the "ultimate man".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 01:58 PM
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Because its just LARPing, and even if its not, it is still worthless. Its just a bunch of words. We have no way to verify this person's experience. No way to check anything. Even if his experiences are 100% true and not embellished at all... we have no proof that his experience is indicative of any one else or universal in some way. Its a big world we live in, chances are I can find someone who has experienced just about anything imaginable. That doesn't make it a general trend. This is just som…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 10:10 PM
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you are potentially being mislead by Availability Heuristics, for someone who uses "logic" for everything you should understand those and the pitfalls associated with them. In a study asking people whether K is more common in the beginning of words or as the third letter of words it was found that participants vastly overestimated the number of words beginning with K. The authors posited the following. It is easier to think of words that begin with "K", more than words with "K" as the third lett…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 02:12 PM
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Short answer: No Long answer: Hell no Really long answer: [meta] I feel like in a lot of ways this sub is rapidly deteriorating. People are going further and further off the deep end and I feel posts like this are especially pathetic. This post just reeks of low effort trolling energy trying to provoke a rise out of people or see how depraved people are out of a sense of morbid curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 01:29 PM
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That is good, because this was originally posted by me as a low effort joke. But somehow I manage to be more accurate than OP's descriptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 10:51 PM
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IMO, it depends on how its done and for what purpose. First, the example you gave was not appropriate. That was looking through post history for the purpose of an ad hominem attack. A person's interest in outside subjects does not have any indication of how valid their arguments are. Attacking those interests to discredit an argument is the definition of an ad hominem. We should be above blatant logical fallacies. We are above that. I hope. Nevertheless, looking through someone's post history ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 09:59 PM
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I disagree. I posted this before, I'll post it again. This is the "most" accurate description of the pills and flairs. Red flair. They believe that sex should be obtained by any means necessary, and that its okay to treat women like garbage because they have persuaded themselves that women are garbage! Also because this is the internet, many of them are LARPing and post grandiose stories about how they are so wildly successful in life and with women and its all thanks to the red pill. Its not li…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 09:47 PM
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You have accused me of these things on the basis of statements I've allegedly made, but you haven't said what statements those are. Essentially, you are asking me to defend every statement I have ever made simultaneously. If you feel that I have acted hypocritically, the good faith approach is to take a statement I have said in the past, and contrast it with what I am arguing here. All you have done is accuse me of being a hypocrite without showing any evidence of such. Your posts are nothing mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 06:45 PM
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If you have any particular belief that you want to point out and talk about. Be my guest. But you have answered my question at this point. ' Are you even capable of arguing in good faith? NO
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 06:30 PM
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sigh. You aren't very good at words or what they mean are you? You don't appear to know what "aligned" means and I'm pretty sure you don't know what "dishonest" means. All that quoted statements means is when lines are drawn in the sand I frequently find myself aligned with feminists. One such alignment is my political views being left leaning, such as pro choice. I am not pro choice because I am a feminist, but I frequently find my position is similar to those that feminists hold. Does that mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 06:10 PM
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can you be a love and argue in good faith for a few minutes. I don't even know what statements I've made or what feminist ideology I have agreed with that you are taking issue with, or why they show I am being hypocritical. If you want to talk about a specific statement I've made that is fine. But your rhetorical game to paint me as dishonest is simply confusing and silly. EDIT: Moreover, this is just an attempt at an ad hominem attack. You aren't arguing my points, you are claiming that my poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 05:53 PM
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that you cannot own your stance on what feminist positions you are in favor of tell me that either you are extremely dishonest I am not a feminist and haven't read much of any feminist literature. I am not capable of giving you a detailed statement about feminism and telling you what I agree or don't agree with. I haven't read Judith Butler, I don't follow feminist blogs. I can't articulate feminist theory, I am not a feminist and don't hold myself out as such. I haven't made a single feminist a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 04:36 PM
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If you truly believe that the red pill is legitimate. You need to treat it as if it were legitimate, and apply normal standards of debate and philosophy in support of it. EDIT: I'm sorry that you feel treating your ideology with respect is "boring"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 03:54 PM
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Burden. Of. Proof. Hitchens's razor is an epistemological razor expressed by writer Christopher Hitchens, asserting that the burden of proof regarding the truthfulness of a claim lies with the one who makes the claim; if this burden is not met, then the claim is unfounded, and its opponents need not argue further in order to dismiss it. Hitchens has phrased the razor in writing as "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 03:51 PM
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