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Y'all have really spruced this place up since I left. Good stuff. I was one of the "original" mods/founders and holy shit was this place a shit show back then. Good to see actual discourse as opposed to the constant shit slinging that used to dominate the discussion here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/18 09:25 PM
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Had to dust off the old account for this one. So is RPS one of this guys' accounts as well? I've had the displeasure of "debating" with him(basically arguing with a toddler) and it would make to much fucking sense that he's a politician.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 10:05 AM
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IME that happens half the time, the other half the opposite happens and the girl gets noticeably more turned on/sexually aggressive than usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 05:02 PM
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This was my guess if she's not being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 04:42 PM
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Some are clear Blues, some acknowledge Red works, but cannot fully embrace it because to do so would be to embrace some pretty dark concepts, other don't even want anything to do with the RP subreddit. Some of us just like to discuss this shit with non-like minded people. It's really as simple as that for me. That sticky veered a little into tinfoil hat territory when he got onto the subject of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 04:01 PM
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There's a bot that links to your comment if you link to another sub for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 06:03 PM
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It's mainly to keep other subs from brigading here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 08:14 PM
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I'd like to know. As i sit here with an itchy beard that I can't wait to get home and shave off.
/r/RedPillWomen27/02/15 09:20 PM
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Not a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 03:39 AM
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By default I mean she has way less of a desire to be dominant or leader than I did. MMSL= married man sex life, it's a blog/relationship advice forum of sorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 02:39 AM
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Me, but it was by default at first. I've never been a natural leader, but always been able and willing to be if necessary, if that makes sense. TRP, and MMSL specifically have definitely helped our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 01:35 AM
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This is one of the weirdest comment chains I've seen on this sub, and that's saying something. haha
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 12:39 AM
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My personal anecdote: I'm in what I would describe as a pretty redpill relationship. She likes me to "lead" the relationship, and likes to be (mildly) dominated in bed. This has been true across all but one of the relationships I've ever had. And the one where this wasn't the case, it lasted a few months before she cheated on me. Maybe they all wouldn't say it, but the relationships ran much smoother with the "redpill" dynamic in place. So in my personal experience, while the two things might no…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 12:36 AM
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And a cute girl can be the best motivation a guy can get sometimes. Biologically speaking, but also socially... men are judged harshly for not being able to get a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 12:22 AM
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Lol I suppose so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 05:10 AM
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Not getting sex isn't torturous, but blue balls sure as hell can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:48 PM
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I'm not sure. Guessing it could have gotten brigaded because I don't think askmen deletes jokes or pun threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:59 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/2ft02u/men_who_dont_want_to_get_married_why/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:31 PM
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I swear the flair said "discussion" yesterday. If not I apologize.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 12:37 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 02:40 AM
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Is it simply because they are less attracted Mostly this. I'm sure some of the other responses are reasonable and actually do happen, like they don't enjoy it and the last guy pressured her into it, or she thought she'd like it but then didn't (this doesn't apply if she did whatever the act was multiple times or across multiple different partners). IME the more turned on she is the more she is willing/wants to do. She's obviously going to be more turned on/attracted to good looking "alpha" guys,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 09:05 PM
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No personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:36 PM
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I'd be more concerned about the hiding shit. Why don't you want her to talk to this girl?
/r/RedPillWomen20/02/15 07:03 PM
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Every comment I see from you either is or boderline is a personal attack. If you're not going to contribute to the discussion at all just don't bother commenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:59 PM
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There are plenty of people in this very thread that are having civil conversations and debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:58 PM
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There is a fair amount which is why we've implemented some new rules. Being one of the first comments and preemptively accusing them of circle jerking isn't going to help the quality of the posts though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:42 PM
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You were sarcastically complaining about a hypothetical circlejerk which almost always leads to a circlejerk-jerk by the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:07 PM
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This doesn't contribute to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:41 AM
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So that means you aren't supposed to focus energy and attention on him?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 07:58 PM
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You're not supposed to focus your energy attention and priorities on your SO if he happens to be a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 07:51 PM
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They haven't "invaded" but yes the sub does seem to have more rp than bp nowadays. It used to be the opposite, and it will probably shift back and forth in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 07:47 PM
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I am in a fairly rp relationship, but also think men's rights need attention. I wouldn't necessarily call myself "redpill" though I tend to agree with some of their views. And I wouldn't call myself a men's rights activist, though I think there are areas where men need more people to take their problems seriously. edit: I'm also fairly anti-feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 06:51 PM
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I'm not saying accusers should be prosecuted just because the accused is found not guilty. But as it stands, even when there's convincing evidence that the accuser just made the whole thing up, there's rarely any punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 06:49 PM
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Since when lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 06:46 PM
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This kind of shit is why we need more people to take men's rights seriously, and false rape allegations need to be prosecuted severely.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 06:30 PM
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From your responses it seems you're looking for someone holding a view that neither bp or rp people agree with? Is that what you would consider outside the sprectrum? It wouldn't be purple if both groups think it's bull right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 04:59 PM
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"Women have it easy in the West, and they're miserable for it." This would make a good discussion topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 04:22 PM
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I might be wrong but I think a lot of those types of subs don't allow new accounts with no karma to post to prevent trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 02:49 PM
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They'd get banned for having trp in their comment history before getting any answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 03:13 AM
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I'm sure you can't guarantee that it would be impossible to do. Because I can guarantee that someone with enough time on their hands that possessed the appropriate knowledge would be able to find him or her. But the point is, posting quotes from someone's face book, while not doxxing to the letter is the next best thing. Anything that personal is one step removed from doxxing and all it would have taken is some bad luck for it to reach that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 02:47 AM
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You keep saying via Google like that matters. Someone with more skills than using Google might have been able to find her or her husband's personal information.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 02:42 AM
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You've been shadowbanned. Contact the admins here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:48 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 12:49 AM
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I agree with what you're saying. Bit I'm not one of those people. I'm mostly redpill but that doesn't mean I will only lob criticisms at women. I think sometimes trp takes things too far. Maybe it's just me but I'm gonna walk a woman to her car if she needs it. Making a woman feel safe doesn't have to be mutually exclusive with failing a shit test. I'll also call women out if they want to have their cake and eat it too. Not to mention the guy in the linked post didn't not walk her to her car to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 12:41 AM
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Maybe that's everyone else's reaction, but it's not mine. I'd say the same thing to a woman in a similar situation. I just call it like I see it. And I have no interest in posting to a sub like that, that's full of bullshit. A lot more bullshit than trp imo. At least trp attempts to deal with real life and not some pc fantasy version of it. My comment about being the man isn't an attempt to shame someone, like it would be coming from someone in twox. It's about real world differences between the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 12:30 AM
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That just sounds bitter. I mean I probably wouldn't stop either but not because she's a woman, I wouldn't stop for anyone unless I felt particularly nice that day. I got shit to do. Feminism doesn't change the fact that women are vulnerable, as much as some feminists would like to think so, men and women are not the same. You can't preach that in trp and only disregard it when it suits you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 11:56 PM
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No, that guy doesn't know what he's taking about. You're the man, walk to her car with her especially if it's five blocks away. That guy is an example of someone who's over thinking things and not understanding that being high value or passing shit tests or whatever doesn't equate to being a whiny bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 05:30 AM
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It's not just science, and it's nothing new. It's feminist censorship, and it's what happens when someone says/does/publishes/etc something that hurts feminists feelings. http://thoughtcatalog.com/janet-bloomfield/2014/12/5-examples-of-feminist-censorship-that-will-make-you-rethink-online-bullying/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 06:39 PM
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But why should they be expected to sink or swim? Don't all human lives have, in fact, a value of sorts? Yeah, men's value comes from what they do, women's from what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 08:15 AM
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Is someone like David Futrelle awkward as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 07:26 AM
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You're like a caricature of exactly how a woman acts according to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 01:38 AM
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Yeah definitely not sound lol but thanks for the perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 01:15 AM
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Personal anecdote: A girl I dated in highschool would constantly tell me how her ex hit on her at so and so event. We were both star athletes but he was taller, had more money and was a few years older than me. She would say she hated it but would put herself in a position for it to keep happening. Like going to hang out with a few people knowing he was going to be there too. Then fake complain about him when it was obvious she liked the attention and was only telling me to make me jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 09:01 PM
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. But if marriage is for everyone, the institution of marriage will completely lose its meaning, it will get destroyed. I don't understand this argument. How will marriage lose its meaning just because gay people can marry others of the same sex? Legitimate question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 08:41 PM
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No they said that rape was a consequence of social instability.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 08:31 PM
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It sucks, but if I cried to my bf every day he would quickly grow tired of me. Can confirm, I would grow tired of this if my gf was doing it. The difference imo is that men wouldn't lose attraction for the women that do this anywhere near as quickly, if at all, compared to the opposite. A woman that does this would just be seen as emotional(acceptable), a man would be seen as weak(unnacceptable.)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 08:27 PM
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This is bad for social stability So stealing women like property and raping them is a positive for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:51 PM
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At this point I have to believe you're trolling at least half the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:43 PM
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When women do attempt to see things from a man's shoes they only do so with the top 10% of men Nailed it. This is why terms like "male privilege" makes so many guys go wtf. Not that there aren't certain benefits to being a man, just as there are "female privileges." It's just that so often when you hear the term "male privilege" it's someone talking about how many more male CEOs there are, or how Congress is male dominated while ignoring the fact that the percentages of men at the very bottom is…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:12 PM
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Exhibit A
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:49 PM
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My parent comment shows just one way of many that this could be misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 08:24 PM
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The 70% is not referring to appeals though. The 51% percent is, yes. From this we can determine that in cases that make it to that point fathers "win" a little more. Still says nothing about what percentage of women get custody when seeking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 04:52 PM
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Yes but it says nothing about the women on the other side of the cases where men pursue custody. How many of the mothers are pursuing custody here? We don't know. It could be that men are pursuing custody in the cases where the woman isn't. What's the % of mothers that get custody when they pursue? We don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 04:42 PM
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Yeah, the stats suggest that men have an advantage when they indeed want custody. What? Without knowing the numbers for women we have no idea if that's the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 03:29 PM
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I sort of agree. I think that even if the courts were 100% equal on custody more women would still probably want/get primary custody just based on agreements with the fathers. And that's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 03:22 PM
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You have to remember that as a man in a majority of places if you aren't able to fix it yourself then there is no fixing it. The resources are few and far between for a lot of guys. If they fear the social consequences then those few resources aren't a choice anyway. Based on what you're saying you expect men to find their own way out anyway, which I believe is how the majority of people think. That's a probable cause of a lot of suicides. If he just can't find his own way out, what's left to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 03:18 PM
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You don't want the responsibilities though. Trust me, if you equate men that kill themselves to weak men, then you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 10:20 PM
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It depends on the state they're in so this answer is mostly a generalisation, but in terms of custody where men challenge for custody they have a 70% chance of getting some custody, and win 51% of appeals court cases nationally. Those are good odds. The catch is that very few couples go as far as challenging for custody through the court system, the majority of the time the two parents agree out of court and essentially have the courts rubber stamp their agreement, and provided they both agree t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 08:57 PM
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Why are you so opposed to feminism. Because you say this: feminism is about equality. But what you really mean is this: weak men who kill themselves because they can't believe in equality? You want women to be "equal" but who gives a fuck about "weak" men. Not trying to be insulting but you're a walking caricature of the "bad" feminists that the "true" feminists like to pretend don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 08:31 PM
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I can agree with that. I'll say I've never really understood the end game of some of the guys on TRP. Because while a woman's wall might start inching closer at a certain age, I think some of the guys that believe they can do what you're saying are going to run headfirst into that same wall at a much faster pace, even if it comes at a slightly older age. Now, if these guys goal is a little more attainable... say, sleep with 35-40 year olds when they're nearing 50 then yeah that's much easier to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 09:39 PM
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I agree that looks matter for a guy too, but I think personality and confidence are right up there. For example a shy guy is going to have way less success in the dating scene than a shy girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 09:36 PM
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Right, and as a guy that is in a somewhat RP relationship, that's why I mostly read RPW, and MMSL.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 09:29 PM
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but let's be honest- men's value CAN go up as they age but it rarely does, past a certain point. Oh, definitely. But the odds are still better for men than women. And being an anything who makes 90k a year will boost your chances over a guy who did nothing to help himself and still works in retail. Whereas for women, what they make is significantly less important than how they look. First rule for both is always be attractive, but women generally get the short end of that stick because imo men h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 09:28 PM
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Maybe, but it goes back to what your definition of quality is. For the men of TRP, quality is mostly about looks since they don't care about marriage anyway. For the women of RPW, quality is about scoring a high value man to spend your life with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 09:21 PM
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but they definitely tell women to go for the safest option and TRP tells men to aim for the stars. Okay I gotcha. There's a flip side to this though. TRP will often tell the younger guys to go for the "safer" option as well. They'll tell him to worry about himself until he gets a bit older, more established, starts working out and if he gets his shit together his opportunities will still be there. Since women's value decline as they age, as theirs is tied to looks more than anything the advice i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 09:18 PM
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RPW teaches women how to live in way that would actually benefit men. TRP teaches men how to live in a way that does the opposite of benefitting women. But that's not how they see it. The advice they give is beneficial to women whose goal it is to score an LTR with a high-value man. It goes back to the core beliefs, which is that women will be happier with a man generally leading the relationship. If you look at RPW from that perspective then maybe it will make more sense why they give the advic…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 09:04 PM
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The wall is what will most likely happen if women sleep around and settle as late as possible. RPW is just like TRP in that it caters to one gender, and people share advice to help the like minded achieve the best case scenario. It's not that they live their lives based on what is most likely, it's that their best case scenario (and presumably the one they want) is to settle down early, and not hit the wall. The same can be said about TRP, though they seem to have a wider range of what they see …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 08:47 PM
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It's not that men should just hope for the best case scenario. They must work for the (according to RP and RPW) best case scenarios. TRP says if you work out, better yourself, etc. you can live your life this way. Same with RPW. I think it's just that you maybe don't see the woman's best case scenario as RPW define it, to match your own. (This is just a guess based off of your wording in the title)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 08:38 PM
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Balding doesn't but the whole "salt and pepper" greying look is, unless I'm mistaken, desirable even to younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 09:52 PM
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For example, short legs. I know most men prefer long legs. Is this really a thing or just a narrative. I'd imagine nice looking legs trumps long legs every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 08:53 PM
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I didn't even see your flair. You most certainly know better than I do lol. Is the case you're working on in VA?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 02:18 PM
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Yeah I was just venting. But yeah, ime slut shaming, body shaming, all that stuff is more of a woman on woman thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 01:29 PM
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Yeah, OP this is a false dichotomy. Not to mention that I've seen countless examples of a couple going to a DR to get a woman's tubes tied and the Doc will refuse to do the procedure if the woman is less than a certain age, while recommending the man who is of a similar age get a vasectomy as a compromise. This is definitely not a gender specific problem. Now, if you want to talk about abortion for women vs something like "financial abortion" for men then you will have a good debate topic. It'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 04:48 AM
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I agree. But that's where the "lack of certainty" comes in handy... if I'm understanding you correctly. It should be a case by case basis but still, if the person is capable of working they have a time limit to get an education/enter the workforce etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 04:45 AM
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Totally anecdotal but my SO has lost about 30 lbs since we got together. She's 5'3" and started out at about 150 and weighs 117lbs now. The amount of hate from other women that are less attractive/heavier than her has legitimately astounded me. Even women that are like cashiers at the gas station that are heavier than her give her dirty looks and will turn and smile at me 1/2 a second later. These are friggin customer service jobs where these people are supposed to pretty much be nice to the peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 04:04 AM
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He really does put a lot of work in to this place. Anyone that participates in and enjoys this sub... lately the reason for that is largely thanks to CFR. I'm gonna jump off this top comment and say that we've been thinking about getting him some help by adding at least 1 more active mod or 2. So, if anyone wants to "apply" and is active or thinks they'd be a good addition to the mod team go ahead and send us a modmail.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 03:41 AM
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I don't think that's totally correct. In some states cheating (or fault) has no bearing on child custody or support. In VA anyway, I'm almost certain that cheating can be factored in when deciding spousal support or division of assets but absolutely has nothing to do with issue involving the children(such as support and especially custody). Custody is determined by a variety of factors focusing on who would be the "better" parent, regardless of fidelity. Basically the child's welfare is the only…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 03:04 AM
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Yeah I don't understand that at all. Maybe if there was some kind of cap depending on the cost of living at a given location... but more importantly there should be a time limit. Lifetime alimony payed to a woman that is perfectly capable of working is what's really mind blowing to me. It's basically like winning the lottery or retiring without ever having to put in the work. What I find interesting is now that gender roles are becoming a little more ambiguous, in the places where women are star…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 02:53 AM
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Meh, I see where you're coming from but why "stoop to their level"? Out of pettiness? Because that's exactly what it is when women say things like the first lady said.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/14 10:28 PM
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"be proud you're a man, not a woman" I think this perfectly illustrates one of the problems I have with it. The "not a woman" part is unnecessary. I do think young men aren't allowed to say anything bad about women in mainstream society. But more importantly they need better self esteem for themselves. You shouldn't have to put another down to bring yourself up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 04:30 PM
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it's sad to me that my mom wasn't worried about ME being taken advantage of. Yeah that's kinda messed up. On the other hand you would most likely be the one in trouble if anything came of a situation like that so even though her reasons for saying it were wrong the sentiment sadly wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 05:23 AM
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Thanks. It's all good now. I just had a problem that I couldn't quite get rid of until I linked it back to that. This was in the early nineties so the sentiment that the male should be blamed even though I was almost ten years younger than them was even worse than it is currently. I definitely appreciate the kind words.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 04:18 AM
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The idea that male sexuality was wrong plagued me for awhile. I know now that I was molested by my female cousin who was around 16 when I was around 8 or 9. When the babysitter that we both went to "caught" us one day it affected my sex life almost into my twenties. I got in trouble and was severely shamed (meaning I was the one blamed, not them. They were actually coddled because of what they did to me.) because my female cousin and her friend convinced me to "show me yours and I'll show you mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 03:46 AM
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A+ post. Both men and women can be assholes. That in itself can be a shock for many men to hear. I can't speak for others, but I was raised to see women as infallible. As recently as two years ago, I felt shame when I went in to kiss a girl (and other guy friends have said the same) as if I was doing something wrong, and that the idea that she might be attracted to men was absurd because male sexuality was wrong. I repeat that-- for years I felt male sexuality was inherently wrong or shameful Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 01:41 AM
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But I suppose I should have gone on to state that I believe censorship is the hallmark of a person with weak convictions. Individuals who lack the intellectual wherewithal to defend against opposing opinions are the only ones who will resort to censorship to "defend" their claims. Yep. Whether it be TRP or every feminist space ever. I forget who said this one but: "The first condition of progress is the removal of censorship.” “When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 12:02 AM
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I would argue that in porn men are actually more objectified than women. Literally all he is there for is his penis. No one wants to hear him, see his face, even look at his body. He is an object in the purest sense of the word. Hetero porn consists of a woman and a dick.
/r/MensRights06/08/14 04:15 AM
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Nice mansplaining! /s
/r/MensRights06/08/14 04:10 AM
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I'll give you that his comment was worded poorly. His point is that they downplay it. So is it possible for women to objectify men? Possibly at the micro, interpersonal level. Basically... I'm not really sure if women can objectify men but if they do it's not that bad and men should suck it up.... The same old feminist horseshit.
/r/MensRights06/08/14 04:08 AM
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It doesn't prove his claim word for word but it's a source: http://www.news-medical.net/news/20140626/Women-are-more-likely-to-be-physically-aggressive-towards-their-partners-than-men.aspx EDIT: Here's a couple more - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1303598/posts https://www.musc.edu/vawprevention/lesbianrx/factsheet.shtml
/r/MensRights04/08/14 05:26 PM
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Lol at the women calling the guy a fake and accusing him of being single and making it all up for karma. They're definitely not jealous.
/r/RedPillWomen01/08/14 10:49 PM
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People are saying it's the same when women do it, but the vast majority of people don't really feel that way. You can look at this study and extrapolate the findings to men and women in general. Basically, a man will get a lot more flak for behaviors people perceive to be abusive than women will. Edit: Here's a summary of the study... I'm guessing the results wouldn't be all that different in mainstream society: What they did was compare the results of two surveys sent out to clinicians register…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 07:12 PM
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Reddit automatically removed your post because it has a link to quickmeme.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 01:28 PM
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Or /r/cuckold.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 04:20 AM
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I'm wondering how equal the "splitting" of the bills is. I'd wager a guess that he pays a little more than she does if not downright "loans" her money to cover her portion of the bills every month. Just a theory though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 04:18 AM
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There's really no need for that. They were having a reasonable conversation and you come out of nowhere with some bullshit snark... and that's exactly what most people hate about this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 04:14 AM
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Thanks, I didn't know there were comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 07:33 PM
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Ha, true, I could have thrown a RP buzzword in there and this thing would probably have 3x the comments by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 06:38 PM
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I'd guess almost none of them would say that every time being hard meant they wanted sex, or are even aroused. I get n.a.r.b.s (No apparent reason boners) all the damn time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 05:43 PM
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Well I kinda did take an interesting article and ask a not so interesting question. I'll revisit it sometime later when I have more time and try to include more relevant questions if noone else does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 05:32 PM
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Yeah I think I probably picked a bad topic of conversation for this one. Everyone that read the whole thing seemed to enjoy it so I hope some other people start some better topics about it. There's a ton of stuff in there relevant to the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 04:56 PM
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The main point I took from it is that female sexuality is more fluid than male sexuality and biology factors in far more than a lot of people would like to admit. Edit: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-entertainment/201304/born-both-ways - a good read.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 05:32 AM
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That's part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 05:28 AM
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Actually that's a very good point. Why should she have to apologize for the "anti-feminist sound of the scene. That is just absurd to me. While expected, I think it just sucks frankly that people feel the need to apologize for their research being anti-feminist. It's at best holding this type of gender research back and at worst downright preventing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 05:26 AM
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avoiding absolute statements and backing away from certainty that the hard data does not yet allow for. I guess I should have considered that angle. It's just, adding the part about "I'm a feminist, so..." made it seem like pandering almost. My bias might have come into play there a little, but I can't stand when people insert their ideologies into something like that where it really has no place. It could have been, like you said, clumsy editing by the author but my tinfoil hat says it's someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 05:22 AM
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As with all things, yes. People are unique. But reading through all of that doesn't lead me to that particular conclusion. Everything seems to point to there being a greater variability across genders rather than within. I'm just not seeing how one can draw that conclusion after the entire article saying pretty much the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 05:16 AM
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“the variability within genders may be greater than the differences between genders,” This statement just seems thrown in there and not only has no relevance to the prior conclusions but seems to actually contradict them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 02:37 AM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 04:25 PM
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Probably more like brown-eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 01:54 AM
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A lot of people are saying that, and I agree. But, I've seen ppl in TBP call older guys creepy and rapists etc for being attracted to/having sex with women who are much younger than them. There's even that whole 1/2 your age plus 7 rule...or whatever it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 01:45 AM
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Lol "a job"... Apparently this job I have is at a day care.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 01:30 AM
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I'm not gonna hold your hand. You know what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 07:33 PM
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Your sentence structure is weird. Are you saying you don't consider someone that is less than six feet tall a man because he's short?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 09:41 PM
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Stop with the insults and name-calling. Noone else is being disrespectful towards you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 09:38 PM
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But the mocking and shaming of men who get sick or complain killed by father. This is the real issue here. The mocking is one thing but it leads to men feeling like "man-children" or more specifically "less-masculine" if they decide to seek help for medical conditions. All this ad is doing is reinforcing that stereotype... that men that seek help are weak, which is IMO probably the most harmful stereotype out there period, including women's. Men are literally dying unnecessarily because of it. I…
/r/MensRights21/07/14 10:50 PM
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Well we don't want anyone being harassed so if you have proof of it send me a PM or modmail.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/14 03:08 PM
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You mad faggot boy? No personal attacks please. Especially not ones that sound like they're coming from a 14 yr old on xbox live.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/14 04:48 AM
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Meh, the reason I spend any time here at all is because my viewpoints get challenged and occasionally changed. That's the reason I took a mod position here.... these topics genuinely interest me. Oh, and I happen to be in a happy LTR, so OP's hypothesis is ridiculous.... this thread is gold though. I wonder if OP is clever enough to martyr himself to bring the two sides closer together in mutual disdain for him/her. Probably not but it's a fun theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/14 04:37 AM
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I agree. Of course the majority of posters in /r/relationships or /r/sex or wherever this was posted tried awfully hard to make this the guys fault when it definitely wasn't. But I also know the other side... I had what you could call a mildly dead bedroom for awhile and looking back it wasn't just my fault, but it also wasn't just hers. I took some of TRP to heart and now I'm feeling bad for turing her down more than I would like to. Then again, if this guy made a spreadsheet, and the chick is …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/14 03:34 AM
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Come on baker... You're usually pretty reasonable. I think she's being reasonable here. You're right too, she probably will come home and get in his face, but if we're going by the RP model of relationships he should not have allowed this situation to get to this point, and he should say something to her in person. Sending an email knowing she's going out of town is the wrong thing to do and seems like an extension of the fucked up way those two don''t communicate with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/14 02:04 AM
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but if he pesters her for 60 days straight, she'll do it 2 or 3 times out of obligation. But making a written spreadsheet and sending it to his wife as proof of her failings is going to be perceived by her as the opposite: proof of his failings. She will see her husband's actions as pouty and whiny -- the same way hot girls at bars perceive the nice guys in fedoras who bitch about never getting anywhere with women. Making a fucking spreadsheet to attempt to persuade your wife to fuck you more us…
/r/TheRedPill20/07/14 01:48 AM
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Exactly. I'm not even sure that being slandered would be the most of his worries. It may sound like rhetoric, but I'm thinking depending on the area he lives in/the circles he runs in a guy like that could even possibly be putting himself in danger. Speaking of that, we've all seen how feminists act towards guys that are simply trying to listen to a lecture about something vaguely related to boys and mens rights. So, I'm not sure OP's argument about feminists being level-headed while the mens ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 12:36 AM
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Seconded.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 12:25 AM
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feminine names are taken less seriously than masculine names (like hurricanes) Not to derail, but you wouldn't happen to have a source? I believe you I just find that really interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 12:22 AM
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The amount of people who have "liked" one Facebook page vs another says almost nothing, particularly when we are discussing something political or possibly divisive in nature. And guess who's more likely to "like" the mens rights Facebook pages... hint: it's not gonna be the level headed guys, it's gonna be the crazies that don't care if they're not anonymous. Let's be honest, the MRM isn't exactly mainstream, and the majority opinion in today's gender discussions pertaining to men is basically …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 12:18 AM
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Meh, eventually the person (regardless of gender) should get the fucking hint. On the other hand, let's be honest though, I bet a woman simply sending a polite message once a month would be considered a "creepy pm."
/r/MensRights14/07/14 01:39 AM
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(I'm not aiming that comment at you - just to anyone reading this) Oh, I know. You're contributions to this sub are some of my favorites. You're always very polite and your replies well thought out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/14 03:09 AM
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If TRPs stance is that women don't need respect while men do and women need love while men don't I don't think I can agree with that. I do however agree with some of what they say about men and women possibly expressing those things differently. There's a cliche saying out there (or maybe it's just a recurring thought in my mind) that resonates a little with me and it goes something like: "Men want to feel needed. Women need to feel wanted." Or something or other. But I agree with the premise. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/14 11:34 PM
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I think it's well known that there is a gender bias in the way laws are enforced. I see this as just another of the same (albeit unique) case.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/14 09:48 PM
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Eh, maybe a little. This has been discussed on /r/mensrights, /r/feminism and a plethora of other subs and since this is like my home base I wanted to see what people here had to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/14 09:45 PM
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there's a reason I live in DC. You're a masochist?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/14 03:31 PM
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They're both underage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/14 01:33 PM
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I'm not sure this case has anything to do with feminism specifically, and just to clarify, that was not my intention. I was also kind of interested in seeing if anyone would actually agree with this (long shot I know) or if anyone would be saying the girl should be charged too. I saw a couple of those in the other subs that posted this.... the majority though had the same opinion as everyone here. That neither should be charged.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/14 12:37 PM
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I hate this state. And I know everyone says that about where they live, but this place is serious ass-backwards. But seeing as how you're a feminist, I'm sure you know that all too well given the recent conversations and laws the politicians have been having about women and abortions and what not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/14 12:31 PM
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Basically what tryin2figure says. I like the unique viewpoints I can get here that I wouldn't otherwise think of.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/14 12:29 PM
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I've never seen a case where just agreeing to act as the father without ever actually taking on that role made you financially responsible. Are you referring only to kids that aren't biologically his? If not, then cases where the man is financially responsible without agreeing to shit are the norm. The man has absolutely no say in whether or not he wants to take on that role. If the woman wants to have the child then the man pays end of story. Now she's saying she was tricked... but based on eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 03:38 AM
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Right. I'm sure he wouldn't be charged as an adult... totally wouldn't ruin his life. I can't wait to see what the totally rational people over at /r/againstmensrights have to say about this one. They'll chalk it up to patriarchy is my wager, with some sort of male privilege in second place.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 02:19 AM
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I would wager that a massive proportion of male inmates in the USA have severe mental illness of varying degrees, Oh hell yeah, have you ever seen those prison documentaries on MSNBC on Sunday nights? There's tens of thousands of mentally ill prisoners locked up without anything even remotely resembling proper care or medication all over the United States. I'd wager an educated guess that they're disproportionately males, AND that females probably get off on the "insanity" type defenses far more…
/r/MensRights08/07/14 12:29 AM
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When those mental problems lead to murdering a child?(or anyone for that matter)... ummm... then yeah, committed to an institution is a lot better than any male offender would get anywhere.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 12:22 AM
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OH gotcha.
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/14 09:43 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with being a woman that needs a man. You're in agreement with sierra. She's saying there's nothing wrong with needing a man. There article is saying to not be a woman that needs a man.... in other words, "be a strong independent wymyn that don't need no man!"
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/14 09:37 PM
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I was thinking about this the other day and my conclusion was that yes it does needlessly complicate things... some of the time. I think it depends on who it is. I've seen guys asking questions on /r/asktrp that are absolutely unnecessary. It's like they've got redpill colored glasses on 24/7 and overanalyze every little detail to the point of obsession. "What does it mean when a girl says hey with three yyy's instead of two yy's?" I've seen questions as mundane as that before and it's like, wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/14 10:04 PM
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I mean, if you want to keep it up go right ahead, it was just a suggestion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/14 03:57 AM
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Reason for TRP downvotes Jesus Christ that is the most hamstering, absolute bullshit I've ever seen. There's literally not one good answer in there. Usually there's at least one or two guys that I can believe they have a legit reason for holding a stupid belief but that thread is just ridiculous. That kind of shit is the reason that while I think there is some merit to some of TRP I will never defend the place as a whole. I've defended some of the bitter opinions there before but that I cannot w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/14 03:39 AM
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This is pretty much derailing the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/14 03:28 AM
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This is pretty much derailing the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/14 03:28 AM
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My stepfather..... Because of him, I feel like I have a better understanding of what it means to be a man in general. What he taught me boils down to "be responsible for yourself". You just described mine to a T as well. My stepdad is probably the only reason I can stand on my own two feet in this world. As for how it relates to the "pills"... I don't agree with TRP's stance on disregarding ALL single mothers. I've dated them in the past and would probably do so again if I find myself single som…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/14 04:50 AM
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Reminds me of a quote I think of frequently, one that I believe speaks an unfortunate truth: "Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know."- Ernest Hemingway
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 11:22 PM
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Yeah that's a very appropriate analogy. Actually it is pretty spot on for me and my relationship. I enjoy being able to provide for her and I imagine she gets that same feeling of satisfaction after cooking me dinner or even something as simple as making my plate. I actually feel bad sometimes if I go ahead and make my own damn dinner plate because she gets a little pouty (jokingly(somewhat, lol)) if I don't let her bring it to me. We are weird :/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 11:14 PM
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OP can you edit that last sentence of your post. It's starting the thread on the wrong foot and we want to encourage participation here from both sides regardless of who the question is actually intended for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 03:53 AM
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one of my dad's friends got drunk and told my dad that my mom should get a job and have a career instead of being a SAHM. Yeah, things like that are basically what I was referring to. Or we'll host a get together and my SO will catch a little shit from some of the women there for something as stupid as making my plate and bringing it to the living room for me. They won't say it directly to me but I'll catch them whispering in harsh tones at her "Can't he get his own plate" "What are you his moth…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 03:41 AM
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eople tend to exaggerate the amount of casual sex young people are having, I don't think it's as much the norm as you think. I agree with you here. At least where I'm from it definitely isn't happening as much as seems to be implied in this sub. I can't imagine being ostracized for not being promiscuous, I have never seen that happen irl. Not for not being promiscuous no but my SO has been ostracized for being traditionally feminine and being a SAHW several times by her more "progressive" friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 12:42 AM
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after writing and reading it sounds to me like a truism that could be condensed in "use common sense". What I'm taking away from it is basically you're saying to judge the individual and throw out any pre-conceived notions or prejudices and that strategy will give one a better chance than TRP's tending towards AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 07:38 PM
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Men's Rights Activists don't actually do anything, though. All they do is point fingers and blame feminism rather than trying to bring about actual change. Well, actually I've been quite pleased to see more actual activism lately in the MHRM. But to address your point, the main reason a lot of men won't try to do more is because when they do, even if it's something as simple as going to a lecture, they are met with harassment, threats of violence, intimidation, and if those fail, straight up cri…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 09:23 PM
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Generally it's a lot easier for men to bully women around, if only due to physical intimidation, which why it is more socially unacceptable than the reverse. I would argue that in First World Countries it's actually a lot easier for women to get away with bullying men. Not only is it socially acceptable, it's often times legally acceptable in practice. See: Things like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 09:16 PM
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You're same as the woman in here I watched that a while back and those two "sociologists" or whatever they were almost gave me an aneurysm. They demonstrate perfectly the problem with feminist research and others that prefer political correctness or ideology over facts. The fact that people like her probably have published studies that have affected public policy and academia is just sad. And the reason people have to deal with things like Title IX, Rape Hysteria on College Campuses and the like…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 08:37 PM
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If you're looking for something similar to this sub I'd suggest /r/femradebates . It's feminists vs MRAs as opposed to red vs blue but the topics overlap a lot and they have a good mod team.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 07:20 PM
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Good point. I actually misread the question lol. For some reason I thought OP was asking about homosexual or bisexual people... it's been a long day :/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 07:15 PM
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You might want to ask a more pointed question. Otherwise I have a feeling the answers, if you get any, will be mostly apathetic. Edit: I misread the question, please disregard :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 06:50 PM
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:)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/14 03:40 AM
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and any relationship that doesn't follow the pattern is unnatural and wrong -- that's sexist, isn't it? I can't imagine myself saying or advocating for something like that. Maybe the closest I could get would be saying that I personally believe that hetero women want a strong, "take charge" man... and doing things like that(taking charge, making decisions) will make you more attractive to a majority of them (hetero women.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/14 03:38 AM
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I can only speak for my own relationship but my SO and I lean towards this "captain and first mate" type of relationship. To simplify it: my SO doesn't actually like to make decisions. Therefore that responsibility falls to me. I tend to be "in charge" of the day to day decisions. Not to say that I won't defer to her if the subject of said decision is more in her area of expertise, though. As to 'why' it's sexist, I'm not sure I'm following what you're asking... I most certainly don't matter mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/14 03:24 AM
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As for my hiatus, I won't be as active as I was before and will definitely be deferring to one of the three more recently active mods but it seems like I finally have a little more free time and hopefully will be able to check in here at least once day. Thanks you guys for maintaining and if I may say so, seemingly improving this place since I've been gone. It definitely looks like you guys have been keeping things under control and the dialogue has improved a lot from what I've read.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/14 03:14 AM
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You're shadowbanned. Contact the admins.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/14 05:17 PM
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Basically it's using big words to say "women are emotional." It may be a stereotype, it's definitely debatable whether it's just the way women inherently are or whether they're socialized to be that way, but it doesn't really change the fact that I think the general sentiment is true. Of course, it's just like every other stereotype... for example: "Men are privileged" or "White men are privileged." Every (well, most) SJW out there will admit there are outliers, but that doesn't stop them from h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/14 11:55 PM
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It's never going to be a "proper debate sub" regardless of the name. The subject matter and the participants mean that's impossible. At most we can hope for some good debate here and there and the rest of the time some productive discussion. I feel the need to stick up for the mod team here... some of the users here are the reason that some posts result in petty arguing, not the mods. We're supposed to be referees of a sort imo. The fact that we're constantly reduced to babysitters isn't our fau…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/14 05:03 AM
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Even if they're not serious, it doesn't mean it isn't bigotry. That's like making an obviously racist joke and then going "just kidding!!" Some people might not think it's a big deal, but others will be offended and rightly so. That's what you said to me earlier. Seems kinda hypocritical to say that when TRP does it it's bigotry but when TBP does it it's just a satirical circle jerk right? Edit: Nevermind I see you already had this conversation with slippytoadswildride. Feel free to disregard.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/14 04:58 AM
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I don't really take it that seriously. But if I had to answer I'd say the PC police are more harmful to society. By shutting down speech and policing thoughts they're far more harmful than anyone expressing a sexist or misogynistic (a word that has little to no meaning because it's been bastardized to mean anything negative about any woman whether it's warranted or not) opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/14 04:20 AM
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I know the way I talked about people's daughters and it was never degrading or anything like that, but I'm a realist and there were guys in the football locker room and at the gym etc etc that are that way. It's going to happen no matter what. If there was a recording of everything I said in my high school football or soccer locker room I'm sure you could find some misogynistic or sexist things in the dialogue but that doesn't make me a bad person. I treat everyone with respect and kindness unle…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/14 04:17 AM
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Oh good lord. The OP admitted that it was a one time thing not an ongoing pattern of her SO ignoring the kids. He took the kid out to feed the ducks and the problem was solved. I think the women in that thread reacted perfectly. They called out the OP (who later on mentioned that she was drunk when she made the post) for being an overbearing woman. It turned out she admitted that was the case after all. Calling women out is something RPW strives to do (rightfully so IMO) because it's so un-PC th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/14 03:05 AM
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I'd like to see RPW as a whole bashing women who support gay rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/14 02:43 AM
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Would you prefer to deal with sexism and racism instead of "PC tiptoeing?" Yes. Absolutely. Almost every time. I can't stand the PC police like I imagine you guys can't stand TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/14 09:10 PM
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Fair point. I guess I don't really see everything the OP linked as being all that terrible. Maybe it's because I'm desensitized to it to some degree... or maybe it's just because I've always communicated with my "bros" in a sexist, misogynistic way lol. On the other hand I absolutely can't stand cheaters and when that shit gets upvoted in TRP I will either ignore it or think to myself how the fuck can anyone say this shit? It's also probably why I tend to read RPW... I'm not interested in a bunc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/14 09:08 PM
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What you're doing is pointing out that the difference between groups is way smaller than the difference within the group. That's true, but completely useless because every group is this way. The genetic variation within any breed of dog, for example, is much larger than the variation between any two breeds [source[2] ]. Thank you. I've been trying to find a way to word this so that it made sense on paper and not just in my head. All it is is a thought-terminating cliche and people are buying int…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/14 07:22 PM
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He never said bluepillers are anti-science. There was a polite discussion being had until you jump in with "pathetic attempts".. shit like that just derails the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/14 07:12 PM
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One other thing... I think you're missing that a lot of the things you linked to are satire/exaggerations/sarcasm that you might be missing. Ex: Pic #20 in the imgur album, 23, 37 etc etc.. That doesn't excuse, and I'm not defending about half of the posts, but the other half or so are obviously not serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/14 07:06 PM
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I treat debate as a casual conversation to discuss different viewpoints. That's how IMO people should treat this sub in general. That's not to say minds aren't being changed though. I myself have changed my views on several issues since I started participating here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/14 06:55 PM
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If you identify with TRP but agree that the multitude of examples I just provided indicate that TRP is sexist, how can you dissociate whatever TRP means to you from what the mods, the endorsed contributors, and the lesser known members who are clearly misogynists say it is? What is so unique and redeeming about TRP that makes wading through the hate and the pseudoscience worth it? I see this argument all the time, and it makes zero sense to me. I post and read RPW (with me SO occasionally) becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/14 06:52 PM
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This. Seriously though, I haven't been active at all lately, no excuse, but the last few months are the time of the year when I make most of my money for the rest of the year. But, that's over now and I'm gonna start participating a lot more and trying to address ya'lls concerns. I've seen a couple different people say they think the sub sucks lately so let's try and fix it some.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/14 01:09 PM
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You're shadowbanned.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 05:08 PM
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You have no down votes in your original comment on my screen, which means that if you're seeing one it's caused by reedit's vote fuzzing. JJ in contrast has three ups and two downs as of my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 03:06 AM
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It is if you're doing it right. If the person being negged actually gets seriously offended, you're doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 01:21 AM
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Again I think it depends on the reason the guy doesn't want to explore the fantasy. I tried to make it clear in the OP that I see a difference between simply not being into something and being too scared to experiment. I think you're leaving out maybe one big reason as to why some guys don't want to experiment with stuff like that. There are many guys out there that are terrified of being accused of something like rape or sexual assault. It's ingrained into them, especially if they go to college…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 01:18 AM
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No the most active mod is /u/CFRProflcopter... he leans blue on most things. I'm the second most active mod and lean red on some things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 01:53 AM
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Yeah she's got a lot going on with school I think. Spartacus as well. Cody mods a couple of different subs. I think you are the most active mod by a pretty wide margin recently, followed by me. Whenever there's a serious issue though Purple and Spartacus are always right there if they need to step in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 12:49 AM
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This "women go for douche bags" thing is so silly to me. I'd say it's more "women go for assholes." They're not necessarily assholes, but a lot of times they are. Assholes are more likely to be confident. Confidence allows men to approach a lot of women, and women find confidence attractive. That is a very simplified version of if but hopefully you get the drift. A lot of guys that "get the girl" are perceived, some rightfully so, as assholes. It's because confidence and assholishness more often…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 12:25 AM
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Gotcha. The part I was talking about was "what are your views specifically" in the title. You'd get a lot more responses if you asked a more pointed question. Like what are your views about XY and Z.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 11:39 PM
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Pretty much correct. /u/Purplepilldebate who is not RP or BP is the creator, Spartacus who leans BP and I who lean mildly RP were here from the inception. Cody might? lean a bit RP in some areas but don't quote me on that but yes he is the CSS guy though we value his opinion on all decisions. And I suggested you be brought on because I liked that you were rational and participated here without ever even coming close to breaking any rules or being disrespectful to anyone and the other mods were i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 11:37 PM
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If those personality traits actually are more common among certain cultures that happen to be Asian I don't see the problem. You wouldn't shame someone for preferring certain personality types right? Actually I don't ever see any hate towards someone that prefers white guys or black women or black guys or white women so why is it fetishization when it's Asian women only?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 11:32 PM
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The first time I followed a link to that site I was on there for about 4 hours lol so I know what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 11:28 PM
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My personality can't handle coming home from a career I enjoy to a home I've created only to also be expected to be the only one cooking meals and cleaning the home. I think the part that consistently gets left out here is that men do their chores (yard work, car maintenance etc.) It seems those things get grouped into the "leisure" category when discussing unpaid work at the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 11:25 PM
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The question probably has to be narrowed a bit in order to have a decent discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 11:22 PM
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There's a lot more to a manic pixie dream girl than that. I actually thought it'd be pretty frowned upon to describe yourself as one in a place like TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 10:09 PM
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The update post is even more obvious lol. She says her husband's boss told her husband how she used to do anal and all that with her FWB and she never has done the same stuff with her husband. Classic.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/14 04:08 PM
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"Name-calling" is a joyous pastime. And you are still a moron. Unlike yourself, I actually AM a woman. I am 42 years old and have two kids-- an 18 y/o son and a 15 y/o son. I have owned a business and I am exquisitely educated from one of the top universities in the US. I also happen to have been born a female human. If you support the broad philosophy of the typical MRA you are supporting the systemic undermining of over 50% of the human population. You are saying, in essence, male genetics all…
/r/MensRights16/04/14 02:08 PM
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Your response seems like the mature adult stance. Partner count doesn't matter to me either I suppose. I mean I've never asked and just doesn't seem like something I'd really spend that much time discussing with a partner. That being said, do you think maybe you feel like your stance is the mature adult stance because culture has conditioned that into you? It seems that people are allowed to prefer pretty much anything in a partner except for a low # count in women. Well that and being called fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 01:54 PM
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Well yes, which is usually the mother. And it will probably be the mother more often than not for the foreseeable future and that's fine. I don't advocate for equality of outcomes, just opportunity. I don't think we can pretend that there isn't a bias against men at least some of the time that doesn't really affect women at the societal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 01:33 PM
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I must have been in my own little world when I asked because you can tell by how I worded the question that I just assumed everyone was around my age or younger ha. Thanks for the perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 01:29 PM
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It should be 50/50 by default. Practicality is the only problem with that. Bus schedules and all that make it hard to truly split custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 02:30 AM
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I don't think that's the case with child custody. I think it's bullshit that currently custody is defaulted to the mother and that it should be based upon who can best care for the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 01:49 AM
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I'd adjust the rules so that presumed custody was given to the father. I've seen studies that suggest that kids in single parent households do better when the custodial parent is the dad, but I think it probably has something to do with the fact that since presumed custody is usually given to the mother, the dads that actually fight for it and get it have to go through hell and are probably the ones that will put extra effort in and that might skew that statistic a bit. I think obviously the fat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 01:32 AM
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Even thinking about this is upsetting Yeah reading it put things into perspective a bit for me after bickering a little with my SO earlier over something dumb. Luckily we're a lot alike and don't hold grudges so she ended up reading it over my shoulder and I think we both realized how inconsequential the thing we were arguing about was. As important as some of the stuff we discuss here at PPD is (imo at least), reading something like makes me take a step back and gives me a new, much needed pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 01:26 AM
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And in a great show of hypocrisy, of course I would want my partner to stay with me and love me unconditionally. Hah, I guess that would be hypocrisy but at least it's honest. I think a lot more people than would admit would have the same reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 01:22 AM
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Wat
/r/MensRights16/04/14 01:19 AM
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If you're saying what I think you're saying then that really sucks and I'm sorry. If you don't want to talk about it that's definitely understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 01:15 AM
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While women prefer to HAVE a higher-earning partner, men generally prefer to BE the higher-earning partner in a relationship. This simple but profound difference between the sexes has powerful consequences for the so-called pay gap. She's not wrong though. Ideally women and men wouldn't care as much about their income in relation to their partner but the fact of the matter is... they do. Many women prefer to "marry up" and many men like making more than their spouse. Be it ingrained gender roles…
/r/MensRights15/04/14 10:41 PM
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Well I honestly do think the MRM needs to concentrate a lot more on this kind of stuff if at all possible.
/r/MensRights15/04/14 04:23 PM
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I've deleted a few of your comments in this thread that have been deleted reported. Please follow the rules. Edit: formatting
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 08:31 PM
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The only problem with your suggestion is that most of the participants here know which side the moderators fall on and if say I, as the mod who is seen as the redpill mod, comments below a comment made by you that is getting heavily down voted, the only effect will be that I get down voted as well, lol. The people that are down voting are going to do it and that's just the way it is. One of the best things about this sub is that we have many users from both sides that will defend the right of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 04:42 AM
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A lot of it is from that you're right. I'm decidedly purple pill in my beliefs (at least I think I am), if not maybe leaning red here or there and I see some comments from redpillers that absolutely are inane and nonsensical. That's not to say I don't see the same thing from the other side, I do. I just wanted to point out that me, someone that many would call the "redpill mod" here, sees "my own" side making inane, indefensible comments occasionally, so I know people from the other side see the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 04:32 AM
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I'm not sure what s/he's referring to with "off-topic" but I tend to enjoy a lot of the posts that don't directly relate to TRP theory... I think if we limit ourselves to just that then we'd quickly run out of topics to discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 04:20 AM
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Haha, well shit. I got a gladiator, some kind of amused helicopter made from carbon fiber, a human/dinosaur hybrid named Cody, and an unknown purple medication to battle.... I think I'll sit this one out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 04:16 AM
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That is a much better stat than the wrong one I keep seeing people bring up. Usually it's feminists that bring it up.. but they say that men get custody over 70% of the time when they ask for it. I have links that debunk that, but I've never seen one where they say men get it 45% of the time. I'd be grateful if you could link me where you got that number from, thanks in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 03:57 AM
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I'm gonna leave this post up because there's some decent discussion going on; it's toeing the line of a leading question. I don't think you, OP, did it on purpose and this is one of those times where moderator discretion comes into play. I'll just add... next time you submit something here try to keep the questions more neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 03:54 AM
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I agree... this is a post more suited to TRP and you didn't ask a question OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 03:51 AM
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You can talk down without the name-calling, that's all we ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 09:09 PM
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No not disagreeing. Read the sidebar. It's the personal attacks and being a dick to other users that is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 08:57 PM
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If you haven't done so yet, read the sidebar. You're in violation of the rules on several of your recent comments. Please clean it up or you'll be banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 02:26 AM
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I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're saying... your wording is kinda ambiguous to me but anyway... there are some posters on TBP that are just as bad as the people they like to feel morally superior to. The bullying and shaming runs rampant, again with certain users. There are many people on TBP that I respect and even agree with sometimes. And even if I don't agree with them I can tell they are good people that mean well... /u/duchesssandwich and /u/bluepillschool come to mind. Even wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 02:19 AM
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Maybe you're adding something, but you're doing it in a way that isn't welcome on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 11:34 PM
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I can imagine TiA having a similar effect. Placess like Conspiracy/Conspiratard, SRS and SRSsucks obviously... they will suck the life out of you and actually change you as a person if you let them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 11:24 PM
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Maybe. Maybe that's for the best. I believe anyone should be able to fuck whoever they want, be in whatever kind of relationship they want etc. But the guy wouldn't be posting here if this kind of relationship was really what he wants. And it's obviously not what she wants, even if she does leave him after he starts being monogamous then she's nuts anyway and it was bound to happen eventually.
/r/askTRP11/04/14 06:54 PM
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When this shit starts to affect you like that in real life you have to take a step back. I've stopped commenting here (and other subs like /r/mensrights, /r/subredditdrama) A LOT because of the gender wars thing was really starting to get to me. When you're analyzing little insignificant interactions in real life through a redpill or bluepill lens you hopefully realize like I did that you've gotten a little too sucked in to our little corner of the internet here. I encourage everyone to take a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 06:50 PM
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I just also think that there is still an issue with women feeling included in things like math and science and I'm trying to think of ways to fix that which don't bring everyone down with me. I think there's an issue, but maybe that it's a little overblown. If more women want to get into math and science and there's discrimination or some other nefarious force holding them back or keeping them out then that definitely should be fixed. But while I can understand the "boys club" arguments, there a…
/r/MensRights11/04/14 04:51 PM
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Sounds like you found a decent girl and are fucking other girls because you think you need to for some fucked up reason even though your girlfriend makes you happy. You've answered your own question. You're worrying about what you're missing out on even though from what you wrote it seems like you got just what a lot of guys want right in front of you. Sure it might not work out, but are you really losing anything if it doesn't? Here you are saying she's a good lay and that you care about her.. …
/r/askTRP11/04/14 03:26 AM
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While I don't think this is the fault of "feminism" so much as an overreaction by extremists making unfair generalizations, Eh, I agree that it shouldn't cause negative treatment of women obviously, hell most women aren't feminist anyway. But, I don't downplay the role feminism has played in the whole narrative. Title IX has caused false accusations to ruin guys lives. How many I wonder... I don't think anyone knows but I'm sure it's more than feminists want to admit. In fact, Title IX, that so-…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 02:13 AM
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Finally I just stood up and said "I'm tired" took his hand and led him to bed where we fell asleep cuddling. I wasn't going to wait forever for him to make the move because that's "his job" when I knew what I wanted. The next morning as he was leaving I quickly planted our first kiss on his lips because again, I knew what I wanted and I wanted him to know too, I wasn't going to wait for god knows how long because he's the man, and so I can't make a move until he does first. Good for you. I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 09:37 PM
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I have been involved are both more emotionally reactive and emotionally needy within the relationship than I am, Might be because you're kind of a robot that you see it this way, it's also because you're the only one they think they're allowed to be like this with. All they've heard all their lives is "man up pussy." And here's part of TRP I agree with... there are many women that will lose attraction for a guy real quick if he doesn't keep some of that shit in check. I think many guys subconsci…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 09:33 PM
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/u/myfriendscantknow is right... that sounds exactly like the hateful feminist rhetoric you would hear coming from SRS.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 09:24 PM
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That's all fine but seeing as how boys are doing worse pretty much universally in schools there should at least be some kind of complementary program for them. There should realistically be more incentives for teachers to help boys period, but when we have influential feminists and women's groups lobbying to continue to favor women and girls in all aspects of education boys will continue to fall behind. I know it sounds like the feminist boogeyman argument, but damn, when girls are coming out ah…
/r/MensRights10/04/14 09:20 PM
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There's so many women in there equating advocating safety with victim blaming it's ridiculous. I've never seen a clearer example of people trying to infantilize women. They're affording women no agency and if I was a women I'd be fucking offended at what half the posters in that thread are saying. At least the ones arguing that rape culture is real are generally getting down voted and their arguments getting torn apart. I had to reread the subreddit name multiple times to make sure I was actuall…
/r/MensRights10/04/14 02:14 AM
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Haha, good.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 12:55 AM
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Were the meds fucking painkillers? If so, he should get attempted murder. The woman in the OP should too. What the fuck.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 11:42 PM
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Yeah sometimes it has no rhyme or reason... reddits vote fuzzing doesn't really explain it either on a sub this small with so little amount of voting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 10:58 PM
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I don't think anyone is gonna take you up on your offer here OP. Its a really interesting idea though. If you every do get some people to do it it'd probably be really cool to see the participants reactions. Id love to see people write something before they tried it and then how their perceptions changed afterwards. Id say maybe take the question to ask men or ask women, and if you do ever finish the experiment feel free to post about the results here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 06:55 PM
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Where the hell did that come from? Are you guys having an issue or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 02:15 PM
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That shouldn't be happeneing to people that are contributing to the discussion. That being said, if anyone is having a problem with having to wait a certain amount of time between comments just send us a message asking about it and we'll fix it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 02:12 PM
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We've got downvotes disabled here too. People are just unchecking the box and doing it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 02:09 PM
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And also, that's not just one woman, that's a total of 8 women all agreeing that it's a turn off. And that's just this part. The general consensus in the entire study from all the women was the same in all age groups on this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 01:28 AM
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I think it would be impossible for mods to try and steer the direction of the debate to that degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 01:26 AM
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I never said anything about every woman. I'm also aware there is a difference between ONS and LTRs. And I'd actually say that getting enthusiastic consent is easier/less awkward in LTRs. My SO and I will say shit like "Wanna Fuck?!" and get a "Hell Yes!" all the time. It's harder to navigate in a ONS type of situation. In the real world, more often than not, as evidenced by the responses in the study, women don't want a guy asking. They want him to be able to read body language and non verbal cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 01:21 AM
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Actually a lot of the phrases in that image are exactly what I'm talking about. They're a turn off to women. My husband, as long as we’ve met . . . he’s just a very polite young man and he just would, you know, while we are in the throes of sexual passion, he would just say “May I have sex?” or something like that, and I wish [he] wouldn’t ask. That’s a turn-off. P-2: It’s like, just do it. P-3: Even now. . . he’ll say something like . . . “Well, tonight can we have sex?” or something like that,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 08:56 PM
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Well I've met two on here from TBP that have explained this is how they feel. Neither one participates here any longer though, but I was wondering if there was anyone else that thought like this. You know, the people that say I'm raping my SO when I "pressure" her for sex by mentioning that we should have sex more than once, and she changes her mind due to my "coercion." I've had that exact discussion too. These people exist, but so far none have commented.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 08:20 PM
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Yeah I get it. I should have been more clear. People have to be able to read social cues obviously for what we're talking about to make any sense. My question was more directed to the people that are really serious about the enthusiastic consent thing. Getting consent before every micro escalation. Consent to touch a boob, consent to grab a cheek etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 08:04 PM
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all kinds of weird in that post... That... might be an understatement haha. Made me go wtf, but I understand what you're saying lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 07:28 PM
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The actual RAINN paper still takes pains to underline that 1 in 5 women will be sexually assaulted in college. I think the paper you're referring to has been "debunked" multiple times. Here's a good summary of why the 1 in 5 stat is misleading or just outright wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 07:57 PM
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Also, see AMR's new subreddit. "what MR should be"... it's called /r/feminismformen.
/r/MensRights03/04/14 06:27 PM
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Normally I'm right there with you, but the woman in the OP is batshit... even in SRS she was downvoted. So, She's crazier than a lot of SRS... that's pretty fucking loony.
/r/MensRights03/04/14 05:58 PM
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This is the man accusing MRAs of being a "hate group." Yet the feminists don't have a problem with him Sounds about right. P.s. I read your blog that got linked to TBP earlier... good stuff man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 04:40 AM
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It seems the goalposts keep getting moved.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 04:33 AM
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you think the vast majority of rape accusations are false? No, I definitely do not think that. I don't think MRAs think that either... where are you getting that idea? and why does trp frequently make posts about how women actually like rape like this one? Well, for one, we're talking about MRAs I thought, not TRP. Most MRAs hate TRP, so grouping them together like that isn't all that fair. Though yes, there are redpillers that I suppose identify as MRAs, most of the two subs are at odds. Also t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 03:50 AM
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Thank you. And I might be wrong here (not that it really matters considering it's the SPLC) but I'm pretty sure they didn't actually say MRAs were a hate group... they sniveled and said some bullshit like "AVFM 'associates' with suspected hate groups" or some such nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 03:42 AM
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Actually the SPLC is pretty much discredited at this point.... and what jacks1000 said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 03:40 AM
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That doesn't really change the fact that false rape accusations aren't as uncommon as many people believe because of the disinformation being (I believe) purposefully bandied about by the same people that believe in rape culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 02:47 AM
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rape is more common than false rape accusations. I don't want to get into it but it's not as uncommon as is routinely touted by feminists. Here's the reality, stripped of propaganda. 10% of cases are conclusively true. 5% of cases are conclusively false. 85% of cases are not proven either way but could be true or false.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 01:16 AM
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I didn't mean to pile on... I just don't think there's really any joke that would work in that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 12:34 AM
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Yeah on that note I agree. On the other side of the coin there are also lots of people that will crucify any guy accused of rape based off of the accusers word alone. If what you're talking about = rape culture, then there's also an equally if not more present false accusation culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 12:16 AM
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it's a terrible thing - if you make your living off of promoting the idea that there is a rape culture and a rape epidemic. This exactly. When people's livelihoods depend on women being victims, and getting offended... when there's entire fields of "study" based on this stuff then I guess it's no surprise they take offense to a reputable organization saying that their life's work is based on a propagated lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 12:09 AM
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I think people are too quick to say that victims are being chastised and doubted sometimes, when really it's just people doing what they should do and treat the accused as innocent until proven guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 10:26 PM
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I don't know why feminists aren't happy about this. RAINN, the #1 authority on the subject, says that there is no rape culture. That it's been blown out of proportion and the hysteria is causing real harm. Feminists constantly go on about the need to end rape culture, but don't see this as a good thing. It almost seems as if some people want to be seen as perpetual victims. It's almost as if the sympathy for the clearly railroaded males that rape culture hysteria has caused, has caused even more…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 08:56 PM
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Look at rule 3 on the sidebar. It's not censorship. You're breaking the damn rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 07:54 PM
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Seriously though, the only way that joke would work is if you knew how sensitive the girl was to her scars beforehand. And unless she cracks a joke back at you or genuinely laughs about it it's still going to make others feel uncomfortable, and not in a "establishing dominance" sort of way. I really don't see any way for the joke to raise your status.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 07:48 PM
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You sure you wanna go down this rabbit hole? Leave now while you still can!!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 07:43 PM
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So your not conflating women with prostitues? Regardless, how bout this... you send me a PM from your main account so I can verify that you're not a troll and then we can drop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 07:34 PM
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Your account is two days old. And I wouldn't be removing it because I don't agree with your views. I'd be removing it because it's another leading question. I say this because prostitutes know their place in the grand scheme of things. What do you mean by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 07:28 PM
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Okay so "anti-feminist, MRA, redpill man, male supremacist - PROUD MALE" This is the third post you've made here (the other two were removed), you're on a brand new account, your flair screams troll, and you're asking the most leading questions ever. Why should I leave this post up?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 07:25 PM
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I don't know what you consider older but I'm 26. Is that old now? fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 06:07 PM
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But striking? You pop a guy in the fucking nose or headbutt him, and he's done. Most men do not have the strength to make a woman immobile. It's a two-person job to do this I wouldn't argue with you here but it seems like you're combining two separate points. If a man and woman are going blow for blow, a man is going to win maybe ~95% of the time. If a man and woman are trying to overpower one another a man is going to win ~99% of the time. Assuming avg sized people of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 05:52 PM
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Yes we're all shallow. It's a buzzword. People will call you shallow if they want to shame you, call it attraction/preferences if not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 05:49 PM
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I don't think that's right. It would take a very strong or very skilled woman to overpower or beat an average sized man into submission. Like, semi-pro weighlifter or MMA fighter strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 05:39 PM
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However, if you believe that women don't mature past a teenage mentality I believe that in certain areas men have more of an incentive to mature but I do not believe that women don't mature past a teenage mentality. believe that women are biologically irrational by nature Sort of the same thing with this. I believe men are rewarded more for thinking rationally, add to that that women are more socially "allowed" to show emotion and are able to be emotional and it means that men seem to be as a wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 01:12 AM
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I can't see OP getting much of any disagreement on this topic at all. Okay I think I see where you're coming from now and I think I misinterpreted what you were saying in your other comment. Carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 12:22 AM
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Being as how TRP is rooted in bigotry I genuinely don't see myself as a bigot. Of course introspection is hard, but I'm wondering... if you had to say whether I or maybe pick another poster here in PPD that considers themselves "purple" but has some RP ideals, would you call all of us bigots? P.s. - I'm genuinely curious of your honest opinion. Not going to get all butthurt and ban you or anything lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 12:20 AM
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When it comes to making fun of TRP, or being anti-TRP, it isn't just because I think they are wrong. It's because I find them to be malevolent, bigoted, ignorant assholes. All of them? Seriously... I think TBP sometimes takes even the benevolent posters at TRP out of context in order to make sure that all of them look bad at all times. You say "certain Christians" are decent etc, but seemingly are saying that ALL of TRP is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 12:05 AM
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Religion asserts that the world can be simplifies into basic easy to understand concepts (good vs evil), where as atheism asserts that the world is much more complicated. From that sentence down I can see where you're coming from. I would say that it's a little more complicated than that though. Sometimes TRP says they have the answers and TBP says they have the answers and they're both wrong(or both partially right depending on how you look at it)... but this is just my point of view. This mani…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 12:01 AM
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Haha, I know that feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 11:57 PM
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The down votes were probably due to people thinking this topic doesn't really fit with the purpose of this sub, I know it's called purplepilldebate but we would run out of subjects to talk about the sub was confined to those parameters. I actually like the feminist/mra discussions (and I think a lot of other people that participate here do too) as well as any and all other gender wars/lgbt issues/class issues debates that happen as well. I've actually been thinking about talking to the other mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 11:09 PM
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C'mon man. No reason to be needlessly hostile. Edit: sentence structure
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 11:03 PM
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I think this is a bad analogy though it did get me to think a bit. I would consider myself "purple pill" though it may seem that I lean red because I'm kinda passionate about some mensrights issues. I also consider myself agnostic when it comes to religion. So I'm very "middle of the road" on both. I'd bet there are atheists and theists in both TRP and TBP, but I'm wondering how many other people identify as agnostic that would consider themselves "purple," or would say they sympathize/agree wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 11:00 PM
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Damn, do you accept cash? I only carry beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 08:35 PM
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Well that's just hurtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 08:31 PM
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Every year the VS fashion show comes on, and women bitch about how "any man who likes those models is secretly gay, they look like little boys" (even though they actually have quite defined waists) and there just seems to be a lot of hate directed at men who like skinny women. This is funny. I saw something linked at tumblrinaction where a popular SJW fat acceptance blog said something similar, like saying that men that liked models were secretly homesexuals and pedophiles. I remember thinking h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 07:52 PM
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I knew you were secretly redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 05:37 PM
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http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2012/01/09/why-no-one-should-take-nexium/ A feeemale must have invented it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 02:15 PM
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Sounds pretty similar to me. The sex toys just don't do it for me. I have a "unicorn" by TRP standards although I didn't know that I had what a lot of guys desire until after reading TRP. We went through a huge dry spell and I started reading RP, though I didn't really change all that much just a few things was enough for me to get my first BJ that she's ever given about two years into the relationship. Now she begs for sex, anal, to suck me off etc... all that I can deal with (and I'm very happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 01:12 AM
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Do I enjoy the experience of being 'taken'? Yes. Would I be really weirded out if someone pulled out a whip and started hitting me with it without any prior mention of whips? Yes. I have been laughing about this for the past 5 minutes. Haha I think it's just the way you worded it but goddamn just imagining this scenario taking place has me and my SO in hysterics. It might have something to do with our relationship dynamic. I've really gotten her to open up sexually since I've started implementin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 12:20 AM
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And that's exactly how it's always worked for me. In one particular instance I slowly moved a couple of fingers (just the tip lol) in between a girls jeans and her skin. She ended up being on her period which I found out later, but she didn't want to go that far and just lightly grabbed my wrist and kinda pulled it upwards. OK she's not comfortable going that far and that was the end of that. We made out for a little longer and then went back to the party. Later on in the night she went for my b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 10:57 PM
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Most of the women I know would think this was dorky as fuck. Yeah I think most normal people (or at least I hope) realize this. The concept of verbal enthusiastic consent seems to be a weird fringe thing mostly in tumblr and radical feminist circles. Edit: I'd love for it not to be considered a social faux pas because that would make it much easier for women to verbalize rather than act coy about wanting sex, and it would make it easier for men (especially ones that don't read body language or s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 10:47 PM
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If some woman referred to men as wallets then that would be her prerogative. I wouldn't remove it whether or not they were offended. Maybe another mod would, but I really don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 10:06 PM
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OK so two times lol my bad. Both have context and he's not using it as a slur. Like I said, me personally, I don't use "spin plates" and that kind of language and might get called a white knight for it but honestly I think it's just the way I was brought up. He doesn't seem to have any ill intent behind the word and removing something like that just gets into the language/thought/tone policing that we don't want to do here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 09:41 PM
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I tried going through /u/rage47 comment history for some context and nowhere does he say the word cunt, and the word vagina is only used once and in context is not all that bad. He's talking about sex and not calling women vaginas. He says: For some guys it's to better understand why their GF/wife stopped having sex with them. Some are trying to drown in an oasis of vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 09:06 PM
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TRP is big on free speech. Some might argue only a certain type of speech that agrees with them but that's a topic for another time. TBP is more "safe space" and "trigger warning" oriented. I think we strike a good balance between the two. You and many others (redpillers as well) don't agree and I understand that. I'm glad you're voicing your concerns and I encourage anyone that participates here to do the same. I can't think of a better barometer for how neutral we're being than both sides sayi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 08:41 PM
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It's not a perfect system we have here but I like it better than what we had before, which was more strict moderation. All that did was cause people to continuously find little loopholes in the rules and seemingly purposefully troll the sub and the mods... we had ten new [meta] posts a week and were constantly changing the rules. It sucked for the mods and users alike. See /r/femradebates for an example of what we were turning into... I wouldn't wish modding that place on my worst enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 08:18 PM
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I think you're right about referring to women as cunts and vaginas. That sort of thing should be kept in TRP. But there is a lot of that sort of thing that gets thrown around a lot here. Here's an example of a BPer kinda doing the same thing talking about RPers: http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/21ue7l/hypocrisy_and_irony_in_tbp_awareness_and_honesty/cgglnal That sort of stuff is just something that both sides occasionally do, and we've decided to draw the line at personal attack…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 08:15 PM
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Because personal attacks tend to derail the thread. And I don't think something being "not a safe space" should have to be stated because a "safe space" is not the default. I personally think the whole safe space thing is ridiculous but if other people want/need them that's fine... but I don't think anyone expects any space that isn't specifically designated as "safe" to be so.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 08:08 PM
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Thanks, and no problem. It's just that the site is banned from reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 07:31 PM
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Well, occasionally we do share a few laughs. Some of my favorite posts on this sub have been ones where people from TRP and TBP have "come together" even for just a short period of time... joked around, a little bit of snark and then we go back to the seriousposts. In the past we haved relaxed the rules a bit for those types of posts and allowed some snark and circle jerky comments because it was all in jest. I think that helps the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 07:29 PM
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I had to remove your post for linking to that site. If you wanna edit I'll restore.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 07:25 PM
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This is like the whole cancelcolbert thing. It's not an endorsement of slurs. This isn't a safe space and never will be, mainly due to the fact that we're constantly talking about RP ideas like "spinning plates" (literally referring to women as objects here) and the "cock carousel." I don't think a couple words in the sidebar is really hurting the discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 07:21 PM
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Bias towards whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 07:18 PM
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Yeah but we've never deleted posts simply because they had slurs in them. The line has always been if the slur was directed at another user then we'd take action.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 07:16 PM
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A big part of being a man is a very powerful sex drive. I think it's literally impossible for some women to understand this. I saw this linked here before (maybe by you actually) and even I didn't really know how big of a difference testosterone can make with some people. http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/220/testosterone?act=2#play EDIT: WARNING: VIDEO WITH SOUND STARTS PLAYING IMMEDIATELY WHEN LINK OPENS.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 03:49 PM
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Enthusiastic verbal consent rules out 99% of sex in the real world. I don't see how anyone having even mildly consistent sex doesn't understand this. I don't want to say it's always a "shit-test" but I think it mostly is. I'm in an LTR now and might give or receive enthusiastic verbal consent occasionally, but that's because of a comfort level we have as a couple. Her: "Wanna fuck real quick before you go back to work?" Me: "Hell yea!" That's enthusiastic. I haven't had casual sex in a few years…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 03:28 PM
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Looks like you're shadowbanned. Contact the admins here: http://www.reddit.com/contact
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 02:48 PM
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This. It swings pretty wildly but I think the upvotes depend on the topic. I've noticed recently that there seem to be certain topics that TRP cares more about, and there are topics that TBP seems to care more about. There are a lot of "purple" people here as well and surprisingly the quality of the comments does seem to effect the vote scores on both sides. There is some degree of cheering on your home team but it's not uniform. One post can have all of the TRP comments upvoted and the next pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 02:38 PM
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I see what you're saying. The studies are almost useless because each one counts different things as "work." Generally it's physical labour though I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 06:28 PM
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I imagine that probably has something to do with things like etsy and ebay sellers. The stay at home women that own a small business are probably more likely to employ just themselves. For example my SO is a photographer. She works from home and it's mostly a couple time a month thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 04:27 PM
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Well the only reason I asked him in PM is because I was already having a conversation there. It wasn't meant to be unfair, but sorry. Anyway now you've both gotten the same message, and it's publicly known.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 03:17 PM
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I removed his comment too, and asked him not to do it again in PM.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 03:12 PM
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No personal attacks, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 03:00 PM
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They're counting housework as "unpaid work"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 12:47 PM
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Alright no worries then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 03:59 AM
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It has 10 comments and only three of those are child comments. Not really a discussion. Resubmit and ask a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 03:10 AM
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Well I'd give you the option of editing the post but I imagine it'd be just as easy to copy and paste the parts that are relevant and start another thread if you want a discussion. You're not banned or anything, and you're more than welcome to post here... .just make sure you ask a question (one that's not leading) and don't make it an attack piece.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 03:07 AM
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This post seems better suited for /r/thebluepill. It doesn't ask a question and isn't encouraging any kind of discussion as far as I can tell. It's just a post bashing a subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 02:56 AM
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Well based on what he's saying the dude actually had an argument with himself under two different alts, one being a "blue pill woman" account... so what you're saying doesn't really sound all that far off.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 08:27 PM
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Alright, but you said I was white knighting in PM as well... did you mean to say modmail? And I'd like to know where this supposed insult comment is.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 01:13 PM
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Lol, so you should be able to show a screenshot of that right, since it was in pm and pm's can't be deleted?
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 12:45 PM
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I didn't even ask him for his alt. It doesn't matter because every single person we've banned has a good reason to be banned. Unless he goes back and deletes his comments then we can prove it.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 03:24 AM
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Spartacus? You're not on our ban list though.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 02:55 AM
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one of the mods always had to butt in and started in with loaded and leading questions that made it sound like I was Hitler, so I started calling them out for being trolls. Didn't take long for them to get into private pissing contests with me. Eventually one of them got too frustrated and pulled the ban trigger, Bullshit. Which mod?
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 02:01 AM
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YOU ARE BANNED! I don't know about that part. We, the mods don't just willy nilly ban people.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 02:00 AM
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it was so irritating that behaving in a delicate, feminine way didn't always earn me the attention of men. I was passed up several times in my single years for loud, pants-wearing, beer-chugging girls who essentially assaulted guys to get attention. I'm not gonna say you're lying, it's just that I have such a hard time imagining this... but that's probably because "feminine" is the #1 most attractive trait to me by far. Or at least my idea of feminine. The whole "one of the guys thing" just does…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 10:24 PM
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No personal attacks please.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 03:55 AM
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I really feel bad for women when it comes to the decision on the timeframe of when to sleep with a guy. I think it's one of the areas in dating where women have it worse. You gotta toe that line of not sleeping with a guy too soon lest you be seen as easy, but you can't make him wait too long or else you're a tease... if you're looking for a relationship with a high quality guy I imagine it'd be pretty nerve wracking trying to navigate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 02:33 AM
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I've been meaning to read that and I think your post just convinced me, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 02:11 AM
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I don't think it's to be effective, it's more we need women to garner sympathy. People, men included, just aren't sympathetic to other men... at least not the ones they aren't related to (in general).
/r/MensRights24/03/14 02:04 AM
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Yeah sure, if you ignore the real world where these things do happen.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 01:01 AM
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Ya know, I am a little like that. But the difference is I don't come here and tell people they're wrong. I keep that stuff to the other subs, of which there are many. I come here to help better my relationship, and if there are parts of it that don't fit here then I'm not going to tell you you're wrong for it, which is what I see all too often here. Literally every other sub is anti-RP/RPW. Take that shit over there.
/r/RedPillWomen23/03/14 01:21 AM
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RPW is one of my favorite subs and I mostly agree with everything you just said. I'm wondering how many up votes that comment you quoted got there, because I know a lot of the women there wouldn't agree with it. I mean, I do think that women and men express their emotions differently. Whether that be nature or nurture. I don't know if that means women are "more emotional" though it does seem that way sometimes considering how emotions are expressed differently between the sexes. Also, I think as…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 10:48 PM
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Focusing on all of those who say "No" when they mean "Yes." ignores the fact there are more people who use "No" to mean "No.", whether or not their bodies want it to happen. No it doesn't. That's ridiculous. It's simply a discussion about verbal language conflicting with body language. People take parts of it out of context in order to criticize Farrell. He's not advocating for rape... it's just discourse about the real world grey areas of sexual relationships. Not everything is as black and whi…
/r/MensRights22/03/14 08:44 PM
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Yeah I'm sure I have, and you're probably right that it does damage, but more than the people that are actually making up things like "eye-rape", no I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 03:41 PM
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I think it's relevant to the tumblr feminism part. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the vast majority of tumblr feminists are probably women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 05:56 AM
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They're on imgur. That's the best I know how to do, lol sorry.
/r/MensRights22/03/14 05:21 AM
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I'm not sure what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 04:09 AM
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The differences between these two situations is what Warren Farrell is pointing out. He isn't saying that "no means yes." He is saying that there is a grey area with the word no, and you have to consider the actions of both people. People like to tease. People like to play coy. It can make the first touch, the first kiss, and the first loving embrace "exciting" as Dr. Farrell said. Yes, the difference is that according to the AMRs the grey area doesn't exist. They're either very sexually inexper…
/r/MensRights22/03/14 04:03 AM
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And the reaction when some backwater that some could describe as a 'rape culture' (I am thinking if Steubenville here) get national attention is generally one of outrage. Exactly... if there is any 'culture' related to rape in the west, it's definitely an 'anti-rape culture.'
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 12:30 AM
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Yes. The people who can see that there's no such thing as 'rape culture' (outside of prison) realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 12:25 AM
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I understand from your posting history that you consider yourself to be a founding member of the men's right movement and such, but that confers no status upon you here and gives you no right to try to change our tone. I would say the same thing to any feminist trying to get her nose under the tent to try to change our tone as well I knew you were for equal rights! :p
/r/RedPillWomen21/03/14 05:21 PM
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We can’t simply talk about rape culture and strategize how to destroy it without every single statement requiring the caveat “we don’t mean all men”. We can’t hold conferences without including men. We can’t even hold Reclaim the Night marches without men demanding to be included, irrespective of the fact that the men who demand the right to attend rarely show up. Or that the inclusion of men means that many women don’t feel safe attending. Excluding women from Reclaim the Night marches in order…
/r/MensRights21/03/14 03:17 AM
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The main problem with the idea that Mumsnet needs more men or that men are deliberately being excluded from parenting websites is that it fails to acknowledge the gendered reality of childrearing in the UK. It is women who do the majority of childcare, childrearing and family organisation, regardless of whether or not they work outside the home. Hmm... I wonder... does the same logic apply to male dominated fields and activities? Let's see how this sounds... The main problem with the idea that t…
/r/MensRights21/03/14 03:12 AM
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The most appalling part about feminists getting upset about RAINN's statement is the fact that they're upset that a leading organization in the fight against rape and sexual violence (RAINN) is trying to steer the conversation in a direction that will actually help the victims of sexual violence. They'd rather have RAINN continue to misrepresent the facts, and pander to bullshit feminist ideals that have no basis in reality. The ones that don't actually help the victims of sexual assault, than a…
/r/MensRights21/03/14 03:00 AM
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I'm calling it now... RAINN will be forced to issue some kind of apology/backtracking bullshit statement in a matter of days or weeks because of all the pressure feminists will be putting on them because they dared to tell the truth. The truth that "rape culture" is feminist hysteria that never has and never will exist outside of the worst prisons. I don't want it to happen... but when have the legions of whiny feminists not gotten their way on the issue of controlling public discourse?
/r/MensRights21/03/14 02:52 AM
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/r/titlegore
/r/MensRights20/03/14 02:05 PM
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Like I said, I keep meaning to make a very large post about all of my thoughts on why/how MRA needs to change its approach, I don't want to take you away from your studies, but could you maybe do a 3 or 4 sentence outline explaining what you mean by this? If not, I understand... I do see what you're saying sort of, I just don't think it's as bad as you say.
/r/MensRights20/03/14 02:51 AM
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Gotcha.
/r/MensRights20/03/14 02:48 AM
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Yeah, the main problem is that many add "for the same work" at the end. The statistics themselves aren't wrong sometimes... it's people misrepresenting them, and the public being exposed to the misrepresented viewpoints that is wrong. I've read studies that prove that when people are given misleading statistics like that, that even when they are debunked and proven wrong later on... it's very hard for the people to change their minds. Even the President is still spouting the 77 cents "for the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/14 02:33 AM
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I know and agree that there are things being done very deliberately by those who control the discourse, but being combative and rude doesn't help MRA's. Agree. MRA is a reactionary movement to feminism. Agree. The origins of feminism aren't necessarily evil, and did a lot of good for gender equality. Mostly agree. The movement has now shifted away substantially from gender equality, but the majority of the general public doesn't know or understand. Eh, maybe... the general public may not identif…
/r/MensRights20/03/14 02:29 AM
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To be fair, the person you replied to explicitly said: that the person who created the graph knew what they were doing and intended to mislead.
/r/MensRights20/03/14 01:54 AM
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Technically, you're correct. But, "innocent until proven guilty" is not a valid way to measure the "falsely accused" because "not guilty" doesn't necessarily mean "innocent." An accused rapist can be found "not guilty" for lack of evidence, for instance, and that doesn't mean that person is always innocent. That person would be an "unknown" for the purposes of this graph. Unless the accuser can be proven to be a "false accuser" then depicting them as one is statistically dishonest, which is exac…
/r/MensRights20/03/14 01:51 AM
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Dare say, the majority of them don't intentionally. You're most certainly right about that. The problem is that the ones with clout; the ones lobbying, the ones that are the loudest that are getting things like Title IX, the Duluth Model, the Dear Colleague Letter... into the laws and policies, are the ones that matter. It's just too bad that those happen to be the extremists. And it's a real problem, not some conspiracy theory. I'm sure anyone here can provide you with links proving this to be …
/r/MensRights20/03/14 01:45 AM
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purposefully spewing misinformation to push their own agenda Not every feminist is doing this, no. There are feminists that are great people. Unfortunately there are many that are purposefully spewing misinformation... as obviously evidenced by the post you're commenting on.
/r/MensRights20/03/14 01:03 AM
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No, the blogger here isn't the one that posted it. It was a college professor that originally made the graph.
/r/MensRights20/03/14 01:01 AM
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Well said.
/r/MensRights20/03/14 12:02 AM
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Not necessarily... There has to be proof that it is a false accusation. The group "faced trial but not jailed" doesn't always fit that criteria... sometimes they're probably falsely accused yes, but sometimes there just isn't enough evidence either way, i.e. the accused rapist isn't "innocent," they're simply "not guilty" or there's not enough evidence to say that the accuser necessarily "falsely accused." - This is terrible wording, sorry lol.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 10:55 PM
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Also, women have orgadm easier with bonded mates and that helps open the cervix which increases fertility. I've heard things along this line... but never this: Nature designed Alpha sperm to combat this with having higher count and "soft plug" (a phenomena in which the sperm is thicker and blocks the cervix). If true, that's pretty interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/14 10:49 PM
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You made me cringe so hard I think I chipped a tooth. thanks a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/14 10:45 PM
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In my own marriage, I often make it a personal goal to say stuff that makes my wife punch my arm, call me an asshole, and giggle. A little unrelated, but I do the same. This is the reaction you should get from being a little bit of an asshole, or just kinda cocky... a "neg," if you're doing it correctly. Which is basically a light hearted teasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/14 10:44 PM
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Maybe. I can only speak on my own experience, and that is that the majority of women I've been with enjoy either over neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/14 10:41 PM
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I think most people - even most RPers - would like a healthy relationship. I agree. For the guys in TRP that have been burned or feel like they've been lied to however, the belief is that these are generally so hard to find that they might as well not exist... which I don't really agree with (sometimes), though I can see why some might think that way or come to that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/14 10:33 PM
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No, sorry caveat probably wasn't the best word choice there. Kindness is not the turn off as long as it's coming from a man with a strong frame I guess is what I was trying to say. I've heard all of the women in RPW say similar or identical things to this: I alone was special to him in this way. They say they want a mix of "alpha and beta" traits. A guy can't be a cocky asshole all the time in an LTR like he could if he was just having ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/14 08:38 PM
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Another good debunking. I wonder why it doesn't have more views.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 08:07 PM
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based entirely on bad statistical analysis. Just to illustrate this, here's something I posted on /r/mensrights earlier today http://logicd.tumblr.com/post/79924475029 - you have to click on the link if you have RES, not just look at the picture. I'm pretty sure the original source of the graph is a feminist or feminism website... correct me if I'm wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/14 06:54 PM
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I don't actually want to derail the thread debating on that source, I just want to say that feminists don't use the stats the way you are here. So, Kombaiyashii isn't wrong. They're still spouting the 77 cents to a dollar stuff, and purposefully misleading people with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/14 06:47 PM
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some kind of alpha male who is at the same time cherishes the female lead. Treats her with great care. For an LTR, this is absolutely right, imo. It's the same reason powerful men are capable of chivalry, whereas with weak men it just comes across as subservience. If the guy is a weak, submissive, self pitying sad-sack who cries and whines all the time and feels sorry for himself and yes-dears you the kindness would probably get revolting, but if it happens in the context of an overall strong, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/14 06:34 PM
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Here's the visual.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 06:04 PM
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. Calling the 'reported' number 'inconclusive' is also wildly misleading - if no one is convicted, that doesn't we can't conclusively say a woman was raped - it only means we can't find the rapist. No, it means that the same percentage of the 'unreported' are going to be false reports (if not moreso than the actual reported ones) though the graph misleads people into thinking that all of the unreported ones are rapists that got away. Edit: It also assumes that for every unreported rape, there wa…
/r/MensRights19/03/14 06:00 PM
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The problem with the "unreported" is that the original person intentionally tried to mislead people by making it look like all of the "unreported" are true and would end in convictions.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 05:58 PM
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I liked that part, I think it kept with the tone of the entire argument. Everything was portrayed as neutrally as possible.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 03:58 PM
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It's a nice sentiment, just not based in reality. I'd rather have 10 guilty rapists walk free than one innocent person falsely convicted. Sadly, there are people (feminists mostly) trying to replace "innocent until proven guilty" and "beyond a reasonable doubt" with "preponderance of evidnce" in rape cases. They've already succeeded in doing so on many college campuses. It's actually really scary that they're able to lobby for this crap The most dramatic move in the letter is to mandating that c…
/r/MensRights19/03/14 03:55 PM
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Yeah, I should have changed the title I suppose, but I wasn't sure if I could/should because it's an x-post.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 02:36 PM
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There are studies that posit that when paid and unpaid work are added up women do more work than men..there are also studies that prove the opposite. It all depends on what criteria the researchers choose to define as work. I had this debate the other day, and I'm pretty sire it can't be proven either way...the results are skewed depending on method.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/14 01:53 AM
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It's the same idiots that are pro-life and anti-welfare at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 05:27 PM
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I actually think BC and abortions should be covered.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 04:11 PM
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Ah, well I looked it up, and it's actually Pantene that does it. It's called Pantene Beautiful Lengths. I don't know if they're owned by Unilever too, but I was wrong about it being Dove.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 06:37 AM
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Actually, Viagra and penis pumps are covered, but under a separate plan that costs extra money.... I'll have to look for the info, but the whole "penis pumps being paid for by the govt." is a little misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 06:09 AM
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Yeah, there's another charity that you should donate to in lieu of locks for love... I can't remember the name of it right now, I think it's run by Dove, or some other women's beauty products line. They don't charge the patients, and actually donate the wigs. I'm on mobile, else I'd look it up.. sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 06:05 AM
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Hell women AREN'T doing so and there's a campaign for female suicides. None for males that I'm aware of though, even though they make up the vast majority of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 06:03 AM
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As others have said, this kind of thing belongs in TBP, not here. I'd say you could edit your post, but it's so rife with rule violations that just making another one after re-reading the sidebar would be better... if you're actually interested in discussion that is. If not, don't waste your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 05:53 AM
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Here's my take on the whole "women like assholes" thing. - Assholes tend to be confident and/or don't give a fuck. Confident men approach more women. Men that don't give a fuck approach more women. These types of men end up with more women. Women and "nice guys" both complain that women are constantly dating assholes. Solution = Women need to start approaching more. I know, it's genius. I'll be signing autographs at the end of the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 05:47 AM
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Yet feminists and their organizations keep giving me new reasons to talk about it. When the hypocriticalness stops, I'll stop talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 04:16 AM
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I was just pointing out that both sides can be uncivil... I think it was a good topic and you were very reasonable as always.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 02:42 AM
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a)start off a debate with personal insults special snowflakes in RPW
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/14 06:20 PM
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Well of course each case is going to be different. I'd like to ask though, do you think that in general men are much more likely to want to have sex with their female friends than women are with their male friends? And, in general do you think there are more men that are stuck in the "friend zone" than there are women that are stuck in the "fwb zone"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/14 06:00 AM
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Even if there's one-sided attraction...does that mean the friendship isn't a friendship? Why? No, I don't think that at all. I just think there may be more instances where the one-sided attraction is by the males.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/14 05:34 AM
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Gotcha. Thanks for answering. I think that maybe there's some selection bias going on in the linked youtube video, though I can't know for sure... but all the guys said they would sleep with their girl friends while all the girls said they would not sleep with their guy friends. And this holds true anecdotally with the friends I've talked to so I was just looking for some more perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/14 05:32 AM
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So if you told your best guy friend (or any of the other ones) that you want to fuck... say you two were in a hotel room and a little tipsy or something at the time, and you guaranteed there were no strings attached and you'd still be friends after and just started stripping down... how many of them would reject you? And ask yourself the same question but reverse the genders. I'm not saying men and women can't be friends... I'm just pretty sure that a more times than not, a guy would fuck his fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/14 04:51 AM
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I don't do any of this consciously. I don't think about it in the moment. If I'm into someone, it just happens. Everything you said about being animated makes sense. And I think it's something men and women both do, though you did a better job at expressing it than most people would be able to. In fact, you seem to be able to do that a lot here. I think your level of self awareness is better than most. Would I be off base by describing you as being sorta "purple pill" in relation to the subjects…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/14 12:45 AM
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Oh, gotcha. Well is this her? If so, my point still stands. But thanks for the correction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 04:36 PM
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You sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 04:19 PM
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I agree that it's generally easier for women in the dating market, but I don't think either gender has a clear advantage overall... like society wide.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 03:48 PM
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I thought it was kinda clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 01:57 PM
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Ha
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 01:50 PM
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Don't feed the trolls, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 05:00 AM
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No personal attacks, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 01:45 AM
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I mean, it's not that important, but I definitely prefer longer hair on a woman. My SO doesn't understand, I don't see the split ends that she's so worried about. She's been cutting her hair to around shoulder length, and it's really not doing it for me. I've seen a lot of examples posted in TRP that I think everyone would agree the girl looked better with longer hair, though I've never seen the opposite posted anywhere. Edit, example: this girl Edit: those are two different girls in the example…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 01:42 AM
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Spot on.. my friend is actually one of the better looking guys out there if he'd wear nice clothes that fit... Maybe my friend is your ex lol. Edit: just read the rest... Cocky - check. He was constantly touching the other guys in the group... kinda like a desperate attempt to assert his dominance/always be the center of attention. He was borderline verbally abusive to his last gf as well. I stopped hanging out with him when I almost kicked his ass for trying to hit me in the balls (playing that…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 09:26 PM
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I don't know what it was about my ex but people just wanted to punch him in the face for existing. Haha, I know what you mean I have a buddy that's like that. Some days we can't go into a fucking convienence store without someone starting shit for seemingly no apparent reason. The thing is, no matter who he's with, and everyone is acting, dressing very similarly to him, he's the only one that attracts this sort of behavior. I think this is where the whole "frame" argument from TRP is useful. I s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 08:39 PM
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I don't think women have an overall advantage, just as I don't think men do... but the people saying that men are the only gender with privileges and men can't be oppressed are equally as insane as what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 08:11 PM
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Last time your gender suffered institutionalized genocide wat
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 08:09 PM
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I agree that the stereotype of the fragile male ego has some truth to it... imo as a male. I had an IQ of 129 last time I checked and I'm an accountant... always been good at math. So, I would at least be able to feel superior to you at that haha... seriously though: Michelle Trachtenberg I don't think the ego would get in the way that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 08:19 PM
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thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 05:57 PM
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I think you're overstating it a bit. I mean just take a look at all these women that want older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 05:37 PM
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It was /u/MissCherryPi that wrote it. Here it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 05:19 PM
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Your post got removed... I think because it linked to manhood101. There are certain sites that aren't allowed to be linked to reddit... I think? I don't want to cause any trouble for the subreddit if that's the case so if you edit out your link I'll approve the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 05:03 PM
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Thanks, no worries.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 03:16 PM
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No personal attacks, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 02:52 PM
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The manhood academy is the #1 troll on the mensrights sub. He makes new accounts everyday and spams and trolls, but he's actually serious... and the views expressed on the chick academy are the views that he would actually support I think. It takes a lot to get banned from mensrights and this guy is pretty much universally despised over there for being a misogynist. Let me reiterate... the guys on mensrights hate him for being a misogynist. lol, that's how you know how fucked up he is. Edit: and…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 12:21 AM
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I'd say CFR is way blue leaning, Spartacus is a bluepiller, I am red leaning/purple, Cody is neutral with possibly some red(but very little if any), and Purple is neutral. Edit: I'm think you might think that CFRP is red based off the parent comment in this thread, but if you look at all his other comments he's definitely not... although he has maybe some anti? non-feminist views.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/14 10:09 PM
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Classic disambiguation. We'd have bluepillers eating out of the palm of our hand in no time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/14 06:43 AM
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Good point. IRL public perception is king. We definitely need more well spoken people in order to change perceptions. What with one side giving calm, rational arguments and the other screaming "CIS SCUM" and other incoherent shit, I'd hope it's just a matter of time before people start slowly sympathizing with the MHRM.
/r/MensRights09/03/14 04:52 AM
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You're shadow banned from the entire site of reddit. Not just this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/14 04:34 AM
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On one hand I sometimes want MRAs to bite the bullet and not stoop to their level ("their" being the radfems), but on the other hand, sometimes it seems like no matter how rational and level headed mens rights can be spoken about, there will always be those rabid feminists that totally miss the point and act out like the entitled children they are. Case in point: the conversation you just posted. So, I'm torn. Edit: spelling
/r/MensRights09/03/14 04:31 AM
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Just from reading that you seem very very well spoken... I can't imagine why feminists would disagree with your perfectly good reasoning and solutions to a very real problem. /s Maybe because what you propose would be actual equality and not female reproductive rights superiority. No, I can't imagine feminists would be against equality... just doesn't make sense. /s
/r/MensRights09/03/14 04:11 AM
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That sucks man. I am the favorite uncle and like to take my nieces and nephews out for ice-cream or even to run errands with me all the time. I'm half puerto rican, and during the summer when I have a tan it's obvious that the kids are not mine(they're white, one is mixed half black and half white). About 1 out of every 10 times I go out I get weird looks and even on a couple of occasions I've had women(and even a man once) interrogate me about whose kids they were and why I was with them. It's …
/r/MensRights09/03/14 02:38 AM
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For the record, I'm not saying I blame you for taking advantage. I would definitely do the same. I'm just saying I think AA is bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/14 01:33 AM
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Huh, I thought that last comment was going to get me banned for sure. I'm not gonna ban you... you're a good contributor here most of the time and a lot of your comments are insightful, and you have a unique perspective on a lot of things... however If you keep up things like this: You ignorant fuck. I'll have no choice but to ban you I suppose. Noone has reported you though and the only reason I saw this is because I'm reading through the thread on my own accord.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/14 01:25 AM
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Is this copy pasta? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/14 01:23 AM
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However, women are better than men in some other areas, accuracy and coordination for example. Ericka Jones is the best compound archer in the world right now and women edge out men in shooting and certain curling positions too. This seems like a hotly debated topic every time I see it come up in any sub, not just here. Could you maybe point me to some quality reading material on this... especially about women vs men in things like archery and shooting, and why a lot of people assume (or why wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/14 01:20 AM
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Just for the record, I would have deleted them also. There's really no point in coming in and saying rot in hell this sub is pathetic...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/14 12:33 AM
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However for me, if affirmative action action gets my foot in the door during a recession I'll take it. See, the problem with this is that men have been overwhelmingly more negatively affected by the recession in terms of employment. So affirmative action (gender wise anyway) is further stacking the deck against men. I see that it as bullshit frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/14 12:29 AM
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positive discrimination exists, but two wrongs don't make a right. It doesn't balance out the negative discrimination I can only hope that "positive" and "negative" here are just another feminist descriptor that frames women as the victim and you're not saying that men being discriminated against is actually a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/14 12:24 AM
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Or does it only work in the one direction? It only works in one direction. I've seen multiple articles written by feminists addressing the problem of men earning fewer degrees and almost all of them chalk it up to personal responsibility, or men needing to work harder, "get their shit together", and things like that. Only when it is women underperforming is the cause assumed to be bias or sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 07:37 PM
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You gotta message the admins, not the mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 06:19 PM
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Would you argue that programs seeking to ease prisoners back into normal life should have equal funding for each gender, despite the fact that disproportionately men are imprisoned?* Is that equality to you? Everyone gets half--it doesn't matter who needs it. No, I would not. But, it seems feminists seriously might. In Britain recently there was a feminist group advocating for the closing down of women's prisons because they felt that community service and counseling would be better suited to re…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 05:05 AM
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folks like you tell men they need to go build up their own male support systems. The argument changes when it's convenient. They're either telling us to do what you say or "there's no need for the MRM because feminism is taking care of that" or "feminism is helping men too." It's just like the "patriarchy" buzzword. It fits whatever narrative is convenient to their argument. (not talking about sretiderytsan specifically here, just feminists in general) One minute patriarchy means the oppression …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 04:28 AM
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An even better point (#2) than I made, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 03:26 AM
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Look, do you accept the statistic women make $0.70 per $1.00 every man makes, I'd ask the same to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 03:25 AM
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Damn you're right. Nice catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 03:24 AM
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Dude, NOONE else can see your comments except for you and the mods. The only reason they can see your submission is because I approved it before looking at it. It was removed because YOU'RE SHADOWBANNED. Contact the admins.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 03:04 AM
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haha, ok. meh, it's the same paper at all 3 sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 02:25 AM
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Lol, that genre? It's friggin Copyrighted by The American Psychological Association. Gimme a break. Edit: how bout this one: http://domestic-violence.martinsewell.com/Archer2002.pdf Or this one: http://empower-daphne.psy.unipd.it/userfiles/file/pdf/ARCHER-9.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 01:45 AM
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Actually the only guy defending it was an endorsed contributor redpiller. Granted, he identifies as an MRA too...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 01:24 AM
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hitherto unremarked peculiarity of homicide in the United States is that women kill their husbands almost as often as the reverse. For every 100 U.S. men who kill their wives about 75 women kill their husbands; this spousal "sex ratio of killing" (SROK) is more than twice that in other Western nations. It would probably be closer to even here if they counted when women got other men to kill their husbands. Even so, a ratio of 3:4 is pretty close. http://www.richel.org/brokenlink/PDF/whokillswhom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 01:21 AM
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Meta-analyses of sex differences in physical aggression to heterosexual partners and in its physical consequences are reported. Women were slightly more likely (d = -.05) than men to use one or more act of physical aggression and to use such acts more frequently. Men were more likely (d = . 15) to inflict an injury, and overall, 62% of those injured by a partner were women. I'd dare say that the 62% figure comes from women being more likely to go to the Dr. or Emergency Room for an injury. Regar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 01:18 AM
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Just saying I see myself as middle of the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 01:14 AM
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The reason what feminists are doing is a problem is because so far, for any work that has been put in, there's nothing to show for it. It's logical to be mad at the people that are trying to block you at every turn. That doesn't mean give up, no. But calling it like it is, is okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 01:13 AM
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It looks like you might have been shadow banned. Contact the admins.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 01:05 AM
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Ignorance shouldn't be an excuse. The data is right in front of them. Men suffer from DV just as much as women so they want to misrepresent the stats in their favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 12:46 AM
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Well yeah... men are far more likely to be the victims of all violence, including rape if we're adding them all together. But you don't see any groups being made to address this or any Violence Against Men Act. The White House Council on Men and Boys came soo damn close. It was blocked of course because: It appears that one or more people at the very top, just beneath Obama, have been blocking it from reaching the president over the past three years. Farrell heard rumors that the council was rej…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 12:44 AM
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I'm just gonna copy and paste a comment I made on a different thread talking about how feminists block research and harass researchers and people that are looking to learn about men's issues. Erin Pizzey. Here's someone from her AMA talking about it. And they linked to a video of her talking about death threats she's received from feminists. - Here's her second AMA. And there's always the UofT protests. Here they are, blocking men's studies courses from becoming a reality. 60 Minutes mentioning …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 12:25 AM
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Women seek out medical assistance more often than men for all types of ailments and injuries. It only stands to reason they'd have higher rates of reporting for injuries sustained in DV as well. I do also think it makes sense that men are going to dish out more physical damage than women will just because men are on average 20% larger, hit harder, etc. But that should NOT factor into who needs services more or not as its a completely separate issue (who's initiating DV).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 12:19 AM
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Good point. I'd say it affects men more when they're initially the primary earner and then lose their job or their spouse starts out earning them due to a promotion or pay raise. Whereas hypergamy refers to women choosing partners during the courtship stage or the beginning of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 12:15 AM
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But our conclusions should be based on previous research and facts, not assumptions. You're right that they shouldn't be based on assumptions... the problem is that past research was based on the assumption that men are never the victims of domestic abuse by women. Therefore basing our conclusions on past research would be a bad idea if we're trying to equal things out a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 12:13 AM
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Some men experience domestic violence, and they need support. That should be the end of it. But they go on: However Yes, I'm sure this is gonna be good for the men. many more women experience patterns of abusive behavior, and find it much harder to leave when they do. Sounds like something with no proof. Regardless, we both know they're grasping at straws here because men might get equal consideration. That's what feminism is supposed to be about right? So the results were that the sexes experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 12:09 AM
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Thanks, I'll take a look at it tomorrow when I have a little more time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 11:58 PM
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Are you RP or BP...(which subreddit do you post in), just curious?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 11:57 PM
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I know I can get a little redpill, but I think of myself as more purple and I agree with pretty much everything you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 10:16 PM
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It looks like you've been shadowbanned. Contact the admins.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 09:59 PM
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I don't know how you do it... I almost PM'd you before posting to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 09:16 PM
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Well, the study concluded in the 70's which , to be fair, is still a long time ago, but other studies referenced seem to support the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 09:14 PM
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I agree... and I think there have been studies posted either here or on TRP before that at least attempt to explain it partly using evolutionary theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 09:03 PM
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Definitely. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 08:54 PM
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I agree with that. Let's say all those conditions are met and the two are in a happy relationship. And then the guy loses his job due to the economy. As we know, men have been disproportionately affected by job loss... If she loses respect for him, or he becomes bitter or insecure because she's outearning him, which at least one of those two seems likely to happen, then I don't think you can say that hypergamy doesn't affect men, though it may be sort of 'in reverse.'
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 08:54 PM
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After 15 years of LTRs I'm bored of playing a parent role in the relationships. All things point to a relationship where the woman plays that role ending badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 08:48 PM
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Suppose that both men and women are happier — all else being equal — the more money their spouse makes. In such a world, couples wouldn’t care whether the man or woman earns more, so the population of couples would have what we call a “normal distribution,” and would be captured in a bell-shaped curve. But that’s not what we see in the real-world data. Instead, there is a sharp drop in the number of male-female couples at exactly the point where the woman starts to earn more than half of househo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 08:45 PM
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For women, the shift in economic power gives them new choices, not least among them the ability to reappraise their partner. And husbands, for their part, may find to their chagrin that being financially dependent isn’t exactly a turn-on. According to psychologists (and divorce lawyers) who see couples struggling with such changes, many relationships follow the same pattern. First, the wife starts to lose respect for her husband, then he begins to feel emasculated, and then sex dwindles to a ful…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 08:36 PM
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For pointing out that men are part of the "problem?" Studies have shown that women who marry down end up resenting their husbands, and have higher divorce rates. Good God look at this woman... On the other hand, men tend to feel emasculated when their wives are the breadwinner and that leads to divorce just as often. For women, the shift in economic power gives them new choices, not least among them the ability to reappraise their partner. And husbands, for their part, may find to their chagrin …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 08:29 PM
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Yeah, she is sort of the boogey woman for the MRM I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 08:08 PM
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I've seen you say similar things before, and I believe you're sincere. Which undoubtedly makes you a good person for putting in the effort. It's not fair to you, but I can't help but think that deep down, most women (and men) as much as they try to buck the system, will inevitably fall back into it/lose attraction to someone for it. Most.... That's just my pessimistic belief though, it's admirable that you try.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 07:59 PM
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I know it was a rhetorical question but the only systematic advantages in the U.S. are held by women. Not having to sign up for selective service, sentencing disparities favoring women, the Duluth Model, Title IX, VAWA... I'm probably missing some but I hope everyone gets the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 03:59 AM
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rational majority of adult feminists. Maybe not IRL (but then the UofT protests and people like Big Red make me rethink that), but certainly here on here on reddit the majority of feminists actually are like that. See: /r/shitredditsays /r/againstmensrights /r/wherearethefeminists /r/askfeminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 03:55 AM
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C'mon guys, stop down voting. There's no reason this comment should be sitting at only +2. It's not abrasive... and hell, s/he's pretty much agreeing here. It seems to flip flop back and forth depending on the subject being discussed, but neither side should be getting DVs for reasonable discussion. Cut it out! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 04:09 AM
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I'm curious as to the time period when you grew up. You never heard "Boys never ever hit girls." "Boys never be mean to girls." "Hold that door open for your sister." etc.. It's not exactly relationship advice but it leads to young men being "Nice Guys" to women expecting that treating them like delicate little flowers and propping them up on a pedestal will lead to women liking them... and then they learn (at least some of them) that it does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 04:00 AM
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I don't know if this is exactly what you're talking about, but I have a thing that I absolutely despise and it's the phrase "toxic masculinity." There's, of course, no female equivalent, and it's a word used to shame any behavior that could be considered masculine, and it's used primarily by feminists. THEY are anti-masculists. Edit: spelling
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 02:50 AM
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You guys are essentially saying the same thing, and it is semantics, but I agree with you... using the word guilty probably isn't the best choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 04:37 PM
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Maybe I'm missing the point... were you disagreeing with me above?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 03:52 AM
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Would you say that a hot, young, fit white woman is not TRP's main squeeze? Even if they say they're the worst women to date, are they not overwhelmingly going after these types of women anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 02:40 AM
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Why does TRP want a girl with whom they have an issue with behavior? It's clear TRP possesses contempt toward women who behave a certain way, but they want these women? Methinks they want the idealized version of the 10 across the bar. Then it turns out that the hottest, youngest, best dressed (rich) woman is actually entitled and probably a little narcissistic. They don't go around looking for the bitchiest woman, they're looking for the hot young woman... Also, if they think AWALT, but still w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 07:17 PM
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Even r/againstmensrights states in their sidebar that they are not necessarily "against men's rights" but against the "men's right movement", which I almost find relatable. I understand that there are people against the MRM just like there are people against feminism, they both definitely have their extremes. But AMR contradicts it's sidebar by it's actions imo. If they didn't misrepresent the entire movement and were only against the radicals then I'd be with you. (they will say that's what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 04:32 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 04:10 PM
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r/feminism is extremist. The thing is, 90% of feminists on this site will tell you that /r/feminism has been taken over by MRAs and that it isn't nearly extreme enough. Check out /r/againstmensrights, /r/wherearethefeminists, /r/srsdiscussion, /r/srsmicroaggressions - that last one is absolutely insane to me, but anyway, those are the average feminists and the reason feminism is perceived in such a bad light by many people. Feminists like yourself seem few and far between, and you're not the one…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 04:05 PM
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I agree with pillburt, that women sometimes have less consequences for their actions and if a man is involved he is more likely to have to take responsibility for her than she is for him. But, there's also some confirmation bias going on. The privileged, young women you describe are exactly the type of women TRP wants, and gets, so it's understandable that when someone sees 90% of the women they date/come into contact with exhibiting these entitled, childish behaviors they start to think AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 03:55 PM
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In record time haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 04:15 AM
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Hey, thanks for the contribution to the sub! Next time try linking to a particular video and give some commentary or ask the community a question about it so we have something to discuss. This post doesn't actually violate any rules so I'm gonna leave it up, but it most likely won't spur any debate or discussion either since it's just a link to a youtube channel that I'm sure 99% percent of the users here have heard of.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 04:09 AM
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Damn that's pretty good. I just read the post by the guy who lost his virginity in the storage room at his job, lol. Good for him. It's posts like that that make me realize I sometimes need a break from all the gender wars stuff... I immediately thought how differently a woman might feel about losing her virginity in the closet or basement at work, whereas this guy is ecstatic about it. (instead of just enjoying the story) That means it's time for a little break for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/14 09:12 PM
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And it was your idea, yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/14 08:54 PM
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That's the one, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/14 08:14 PM
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Ha, that's interesting. I'll give it a go Redpiller Radfem Damn that's a tough one - Radfem Redpiller Redpiller Radfem Redpiller Radfem Definitely radfem Radfem Definitely redpiller Redpiller Redpiller? Redpiller Radfem Radfem Redpiller Redpiller Damn that was harder than I thought it would be. Edit: it looks like I got 5 or 6 wrong too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/14 08:01 PM
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debate these issues is interesting to me because you don't get to do it much without being accused of being some type of sexist or beta depending on the group you're talking with. That's nice to hear. It's exactly what I hoped this would turn into when I asked purple for a mod spot. I just discovered /r/tiadiscussion today, and it seems like it could be similar so if it's not too dead I might check it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/14 07:33 PM
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Didn't a bluepiller make a new sub last week? It's supposed to be an alternative of sorts to TRP but I can't remember the name or who created it right now besides the fact that the person is pretty active both here and in TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/14 07:23 PM
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So you asked for everyone else's definition of these words to tell them they're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 01:41 PM
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What's the difference between intentional and unintentional sexism? Well, intent. So you don't think that someone who continually refers to women as cunts, whores and sluts is misogynist? No, I don't think those words alone make someone a misogynist. If someone were to say that they think all women are cunts then that would be misogynist I guess. Even so, you could just say he's sexist as well. How often do you see people being called misandrists? Not very often, and never outside of the interne…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 05:22 AM
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I'd be hard pressed to find an actual example of misogyny because, like I said, I think the word is grossly overused. I do think there's a lot of sexism in TRP, but I think a lot of it is unintentional, and I think a lot of the the sexism that TBP sees is taken out of context and made into sexism because they don't mention that males do the same thing they're talking about women doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 04:59 AM
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Well I think misogyny can be defined loosely as the hatred of women, though that doesn't seem to be the commonly accepted definition of it. It seems to mean "anything negative any man says about a woman truth be damned" nowadays. Sexism I would define as discrimination based on sex/gender. I just recently (within the last year or so) learned the difference between the two but I think the word sexism could be applied to either. I don't know if "genderism" is a thing but I wouldn't be surprised lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 04:22 AM
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Many men who turn to submissive fantasies do so for precisely the sort of vacation from responsibility that Roiphe suggests women are seeking. Olivia Severine, a transsexual dominatrix living in San Francisco, says most of her clients were “very high-powered” men weighed down by responsibility. “They came to see me as a brief escape when no one was looking at them for direction or leadership,” she says. “The time with me is when they were told what to do, what to feel and how to act … and all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 12:50 AM
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Victim-blamer!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 10:48 PM
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Related, I'm pretty sure that the men most likely to hire a dominatrix are CEO's and high powered businessmen. They get off on getting bossed around and humiliated. Hence: A part of the cuckold fantasy may be having that pressure lifted, kind of like how I think part of the rape fantasy appeal is not having to take ownership of one's sexual desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 10:46 PM
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Or it's men in their fifties and sixties watching Milf porn because those women are in their thirties and forties. So obviously logic would follow that the consumers of Mature porn are the men in their nineties and above... haha but seriously I'd like to see some stats on which age groups prefer which genres of porn... probably be pretty interesting and something that could be debated here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 10:40 PM
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I think it's interchangeable with the word sexist and is only used so pervasively in order to shame men(most of the time).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 03:17 PM
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Maybe my opinion on the use of the word "misogyny" can fit in here. I believe the word has been butchered to the point of absurdity (and the other words you're asking about can sometimes fit into this too (the word rape as well along with many others)) and has lost all meaning because of SJWs using it to shame anyone that disagrees or wants to have a discussion about anything that isn't 100% pc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 05:12 AM
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I see some instances where people are being rude to you. That being said, I see far more instances at this point where you're provoking and attacking other people that have seemingly wanted nothing but polite discussion. If you don't tone it down you're gonna get banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 04:51 AM
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But being able to collect social security for the work you've done, being able to collect unemployment should something happen, being paid for your job. Paid. Being financially independent. Those are certainly rights. Those are rights women didn't have in their role as a hardworking homemaker and caregiver. So, wives didn't get their husbands social security after he died? Also, you seem to recognize that being the breadwinner wasn't all that great, and it certainly wasn't a "privilege" anymore …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/14 09:48 PM
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I see her "point" I just don't agree that it's a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/14 08:35 PM
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So, since you admit that neither men nor women had much of a choice, women were the only ones that were oppressed because they don't get retirement money?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/14 02:09 PM
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That's correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/14 02:06 PM
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I mean, I suppose he didn't say he would answer anything... lol He just said ask him anything, but yeah this post sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/14 04:28 AM
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Also, she's got this weird idea that giving up an education and career and earning power to raise kids, run a household and take care of her husbands' needs in while he works outside the house is an "entitlement." No, it's a responsibility that feminists have decided is a right. "women were "oppressed" because they had to work in the home, but men were not "oppressed" because they had to get a job outside of the home." Of course, using the feminist slant, men had the "right" to work outside of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/14 04:26 AM
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Criticizing an ideology is not misogyny. Hell, saying I hate feminists isn't even misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/14 08:45 PM
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My whole point is that TRP pushes the male image of the dominate partner or provider, they literally say that multiple times. That is what women looks for so if you want to be seen as relationships material you have to be all the typical traits associated with that role. My point is that they push the masculine image but then somehow get upset by it. I see what you're saying, and maybe I explained my stance on it badly. I adhere to traditional gender roles in my own relationship pretty much... B…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/14 04:11 AM
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You just went full circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 11:41 PM
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They think every household should have the same dynamic no matter what I'd say the people there that think this is a very small minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 11:17 PM
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Ok I gotcha. Well, I do work full time and my SO stays at home. I advocate for equal opportunity for everyone though. I don't think that anyone else needs to live the way I feel is right for me if they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 11:05 PM
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Well, it's because of the beliefs in that sub that there are a lot of entitled women that treat men like crap, so the advice is in line with that thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 08:22 PM
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I think she's saying that feminists would call the women being allowed onto the lifeboats a form of benevolent sexism. You know, men have privileges, women have benevolent sexisms, even though they're both advantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 07:12 PM
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Good effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 07:04 PM
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As should any reasonable person. I think the message is in the delivery. Using this absurd example of missing an exit, even though I'd never have this problem because my SO would simply say "Honey, I think you missed the exit," What the RPW was probably trying to say is don't act like a shrew and call him a bad driver for missing the exit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 06:44 PM
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Yeah, I don't understand that line of reasoning. I'd love to see a link for this, there has to be more context behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 06:40 PM
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This is complete bullshit too. No it's not, you're just shifting the goal posts. Women have tremendous spending power in America today—and it’s growing. Market estimates about their total purchasing prowess varies, ranging anywhere from $5 trillion to $15 trillion annually. And the scope of that spending is notably vast. Fleishman-Hillard Inc. estimates that women will control two-thirds of the consumer wealth in the U.S. over the next decade and be the beneficiaries of the largest transference …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 06:25 PM
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How can somebody who pushes the masculine image so tirelessly also argue against it ? I'm not sure what you mean by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 06:02 PM
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You don't trust a female commander and chief, you sexist? A member of her party defects on a tax bill, anti tax increase will become anti woman. Her opponent lands raises legitimate issues concerning her completely useless tenure as SOS, they're branded a sexist. And on and on. This is really probably the only reason I wouldn't vote for her. She would be beyond scrutiny on some issues I'd fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 05:56 PM
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I think that's what's happening. I think there are more incel men than there are women, but not by as big of a margin as TRP asserts. The whole 80/20 thing is probably more like 60/40 imo. As in, 40% of the men are having sex with 60% of the women. If one were to analyze, say, the bar scene in New York or L.A. then I'd guess it might be closer to the 80/20, but even then I'd suppose that only holds true for the top 10% of people attractiveness-wise. Of course, I'm pulling all of this out of my a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 05:43 PM
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So you weren't saying that men and women are on totally different levels when it comes to rights and privileges?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 03:01 AM
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I think he summed up your point pretty well. I mean, it's kinda insulting that you equated men's rights vs. women's rights by comparing them to sunburn vs. police harassment. Basically undermining men's issues and making them seem trivial as compared to women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 02:03 AM
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Right... can't take responsibility for your own bigotry you know... gotta call it something so that there's no doubt it's men's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 01:24 AM
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Not to mention the existence of the phrase "toxic masculinity", that has, of course, no feminine counterpart.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 12:36 AM
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Well I'm aware of it... and I am a supporter of mensrights but it's been ingrained and imo might even be biological to have more sympathy for women. I know that in every day situations I can see my own bias sometimes. It's something to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 12:21 AM
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Also, it's misleading to imply that men work/labor more than women do. So what will be the impact of this? At the moment, just over half of registered doctors are men, but it is predicted that women will overtake them in less than five years. A 15-year follow-up of doctors after graduation showed that on average, after career breaks and part-time working are taken into account, women work 25 per cent less than their male counterparts. The problem, put starkly, is that the average male medical gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/14 09:55 PM
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He actually is on the red side of the debate more often than not in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/14 07:04 PM
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So she knows ahead of time that she has a "group project" and schedules something with you anyway, only to cancel the day before? Okay, maybe she legit forgot. The second time... she covers for a girl at work, right? Okay, maybe she owed that girl a shift, that's understandable. But... if she really wanted to see you I guarantee that she would have said no to covering that shift and went out with you instead. That is the bottom line.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 04:33 AM
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Ahaha that onion article has me in tears.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/14 07:02 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/ODiD2.png
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 11:29 PM
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The academics one sums up some of the more frustrating threads in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 11:24 PM
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Some discussion has already been started and people seem to be interested in this, but next time OP, ask a question or give your views or something to go along with the comic. Don't just post an image with a vague title.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 11:18 PM
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I was comparing the two. Also, my last two paragraphs are the emphasis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 10:58 PM
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If that's how you feel, it's definitely a fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 05:10 AM
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They don't know, that's the thing. But with what we're proposing, that he could TELL THEM he was, they would know!!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 05:09 AM
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is because men would abandon their children financially, and the single mothers left in the wake would often end up horribly impoverished. This has nothing to do with what we're talking about. They were able to because there were no laws in place that prevented it. What we're proposing are laws that require the men to pay child support, we just want the men to have a choice when the kid is still a fetus to financially abort. IF he chooses to support the kid, he won't be able to just dip out afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 04:16 AM
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I'll take your word for it because I was just going off of something I thought I remembered from last time we had this debate here. But, yeah, I'm glad I was wrong about it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 12:37 AM
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There's /r/purplepill but that's run by a guy that I imagine the bluepillers even might say is farther out there than theredpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 12:02 AM
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I definitely agree with this part: because their father decided after abortion was no longer an option that he wanted nothing to do with the child is also extremely unfair. and I would never advocate for him to have that choice. I would only be for something like financial abortion if women have easy access to abortions, and only if the man made the choice within a time window where abortions are legal and safe. But the reason I brought up the legal parental surrender is that a woman can and has…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 11:51 PM
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We're talking about making it fair now though, not in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 09:07 PM
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I'd prefer it be called "legal parental surrender(LPS)" - it's the same concept. LPS: Voluntary relinquishment of parental rights. A woman who gives birth to a child she doesn't want to accept legal or financial responsibility for has the option to surrender that child to the state and simply walk away. The child will be given to someone who DOES want legal and financial responsibility, and the expense to the state is minimal and of finite duration. Men should have that same right. Why is it tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 08:46 PM
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An unwanted pregnancy or a pregnancy that becomes unwanted mid-stream by the man is the responsibility of both partners FTFY If it's unwanted by the woman it's aborted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 07:46 PM
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What's your take on his other point? I think he makes a really good argument that financial abortion would cull the number of single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 07:43 PM
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Do you know what the concept of financial abortion means? It doesn't mean men would love to have a bunch of kids with single mothers running around. It means men would like some semblance of a choice after conception. NOT the choice to tell women whether or not to have the baby or an abortion. That choice should be the woman's and the woman's alone. She would have to make that choice taking into consideration whether the man wants to be a father. That's all we ask. Just a little consideration to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 07:35 PM
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Pregnancy is a choice. You make it when you have sex with someone. Only women's choices extend beyond conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 07:31 PM
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To some I'm sure it is... and it's not exclusive to RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 07:19 PM
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Exactly. Which is why the argument makes no sense in reality. If people acknowledged the risks then we wouldn't be having this conversation. That's not reality though... in reality people make mistakes but the woman gets 100% of the choice after conception but not 100% of the responsibilities. Not that I'm even advocating for that, nor is anyone else. We want the men to have a say. Not force women to do anything. It absolutely should be 100% up to the woman whether or not to have the child, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 06:57 PM
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Yes, they use the exact same argument that pro-lifers use against women getting abortions. It's the EXACT same thing they rail against on Monday when talking about women, but advocate for on Tuesday in regards to men. Imo, they just have more sympathy for women, and if they'd admit that I'd be fine with it. That's natural... most people do. Edit: I'd be fine with the argument, I'd still argue for men having more choice. But at least they would be consistent if they'd admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 06:52 PM
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Haha now you got me interested in what idea would be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 09:23 AM
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The last time this came up on this sub (I looked for it and can't find it at the moment) someone from TRP (I believe it was /u/nicethingyoucanthave ) posted about fifteen or twenty examples of people in TRP referring to men as "males." Edit: Nevermind I found it http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1xnf6x/what_is_plate_theory/cfd0vg8 There are even examples of people saying things like "women and males"... so I think it's just a confirmation bias/oversensitivity to women being refer…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 05:31 AM
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Narcissism 48% Machiavellianism 68% Psychopathy 30% TIL that EvilFuckingSociopath is the only person in this sub more Psychopathic than me... yay?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 05:04 AM
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and you're dragging an entirely innocent party into the whole equation, Yeah, I wouldn't do it unless the new girl was informed and okay with the whole situation. Might be hard to pull off in a new city with no friends, but damn if I wouldn't try my ass off to get a girl that was decidedly better looking than the ex to meet me at my place before going out for a date... Maybe even play the sympathy card and get two girls to come lol... but I can be vindictive and in reality that would be close to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 04:44 AM
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I would get dressed up nice, find the hottest woman I could to meet me at my place before we went out for dinner (make sure it's after the artist guy gets there) let her in the house while I got my jacket on and suggest to the artist guy on the way out something specific that my ex-fiance likes during sex (something like "she loves when I put my finger in her ass during doggy) wink at her, and walk out. There's no way in hell they're going to have a not-uncomfortable evening after that. May not …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 04:36 AM
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I would agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 04:26 AM
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Buuuut I don't think I've ever been afraid of being alone forever, at least romantically. Do you think a guy that has been actively pursuing women with no success, and holds having a relationship as a high priority, unlike you who says that you have other more important priorities, might legitimately fear being alone forever?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 04:24 AM
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until she pursues you I assume if this part was removed from the sentence it would no longer be considered passive aggressive? If the guy is looking for sex in a ONS situation and all of sudden right before sex the woman decides she doesn't want sex, isn't backing off exactly what you would advocate a man do?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 04:02 AM
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guys don't make a big deal about it I'd say guys don't make a big deal out of it unless the offended party is a girl. See the people in this thread getting insulted over the use of "men and female" in a sentence. I'd dare suggest that if the person said "women and male" in what appeared to be an innocent mix up of pronouns there would not be a single person offended by it, let alone two or three people calling it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 03:52 AM
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I get what you're saying... I guess I was thinking about some of the more mild shit...not the ones that say that women are dumb as children and that kind of stuff. I'm thinking of the stuff that some people might call "objectification" like.... Men in a group are gonna talk about women they'd like to fuck and their bodies...and women do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 08:02 PM
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I consider myself somewhat purple so I'll go. I think men and women are IN GENERAL, different and have different motivations. Agree. Though I think there are some things that are innately different in the vast majority of cases that some people don't like to acknowledge. I think it's pointless to be a "beta orbiter" (but I also believe women can be beta orbiters) I think this has a lot to do with your next point... I think men are, in general, given the wrong advice about how to attract women. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 05:38 AM
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Both of you are some of the more prolific users on this sub and (this isn't a mod statement, more of a user statement) I hope this argument/discussion/whatever can get cleared up without this delving into something more negative than it's already become. I think you're both right in some regard and continuing on like this will benefit noone. Just my two cents of course, feel free to keep at it. You both follow the rules and are an asset here, that's the only reason I say anything.... so take tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 05:04 AM
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I would find it pretty hilarious if someone called someone else a "traitor to the redpill."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 03:50 PM
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I suppose the worst part is that those who yell the loudest attract the most followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 04:33 AM
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I suppose you're right. But, for every rational, sane feminist, there's an irrational insane one. Have you looked at Jezebel or seen the UofT protests or heard of Femen? While I might be overestimating the amount of "bad" feminists I think you're underestimating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 04:10 AM
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No worries.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 03:25 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 03:13 AM
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That's not what feminism should be about maybe, but it's clear to me at least that in the real world many women get shamed by feminists for choosing a domestic or traditional role.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 03:12 AM
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Maybe I should have posted more context... the comment wasn't directed towards everyone... it was directed to a specific user who posted his picture in /r/amiugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 02:55 AM
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Well of course that's fine... it just seemed like you may have missed the comments above yours. The commenter wasn't ignoring the positive traits... he was specifically asked about the negative ones that's all. You said he was ignoring all other facts... but that simply wasn't what was happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 02:53 AM
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Tbh, not really. I find it sad... but not odd. I think feminism/post modernism has influenced women to the point where you get posts like this one on the front page. The title of the post is "It's a valid choice, but I feel like a traitor." It's sad that a woman actually feels like a fucking traitor to feminism for trying to please her boyfriend and act feminine.... it's a tragedy as far as I'm concerned. That probably sounds a little dramatic but it's how I feel. Edited for clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 02:32 AM
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Dude, he was specifically asked which parts he found negative... s/he was just answering the question posed to him by a redpiller.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 02:25 AM
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/r/redpillwomen is the only one I know of. I guess you could say that /r/relationships or /r/relationshipadvice encompass this purpose, but the primary advice there seems to be "leave him or her for any and every minor infraction" so I'm not really sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 02:18 AM
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Not the person you replied to, but RPW has a good take on it imo. I'm not saying everyone is like this or anything like that, it just seems to work better when there is a "division of labor" so to speak. And it's my personal opinion that the relationship has a better chance at success when the man is the "leader." /u/vornash just posted a study on this sub that said that when the chores are split along traditionally gendered lines the couple is happier and has more sex. I started reading RPW alo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 01:39 AM
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Yeah, I'm gonna leave the thread up, though the other one you're referencing was a bit more polite.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 01:32 AM
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The mood? It's almost instantly dead. And I am far from the only woman who feels this way. Definitely. I was surprised to see a thread on /r/askwomen (that sub usually has quite the feminist slant) wherein 90% of the commenters said exactly what you are saying. It would be awkward and kill the mood if the guy was throwing a hundred questions at you every time he wanted to take off a piece of clothing or touch a new body part. The thought of someone doing that actually makes me cringe hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 01:22 AM
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This is trash advice and very negative, to my mind. Really? Why? It seems that the concept of sexual market value is one of the few that is acknowledged even by TBP. If you're a 5 go for people that are 4-6's and you'll have more luck and probably avoid a lot of rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 01:19 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1x68bf/intoxication_and_consent/cf8zo99
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 12:52 AM
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Making out isn't consent to sex. If a person is completely passive and says nothing you shouldn't have sex with them unless you explicitly have agreed on some role play which involves that. Basically you're alluding to the whole "men should get enthusiastic consent" thing here right? The problem with the entire idea of enthusiastic consent is that it isn't based in reality. Most sexual encounters do just happen. What I mean by that is that they happen without many or sometimes any words being sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 12:49 AM
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I'm not sure what you mean... thought about what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 12:42 AM
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Oh, no you're fine. These types of threads just tend to result in the most reports and bannings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 12:36 AM
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I think you've been shadow banned. Might want to message the admins to see what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 11:32 PM
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There is also a pattern in media reporting you can see that when the victim is a young woman it more often says "girl raped" and when the victim is a young man it says "young man", not "boy". The idea is that a man can always defend himself against women. I know you don't like /r/mensrights, but they follow exactly what you're talking about here. I saw a post a few weeks ago where they were all surprised and happy because a single article finally called a woman that had sex with an underage boy …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 11:27 PM
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I guess I was more thinking along the lines of faking confidence. A guy with little to no confidence is going to have to talk himself up a little bit before approaching. Do that enough times and it's "faking it until you make it." Eventually he'll develop enough confidence by having the experiences which he initially got by faking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 10:53 PM
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I see that as a terrible situation for her, and something that should never happen. If it goes down exactly as you describe then I might even be in favor of a conviction too... with more details depending on what those details are. As it stands though... for any case like this... how do you convict someone for rape when the "rapist" thought the sex was consensual? I mean, yeah they should have done more to ensure she was okay with it, but that can be said about a whole hell of a lot of sexual en…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 10:50 PM
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I mean... I've been in thousands of locker rooms... TRP could probably be called mild a lot of the time compared to some of the shit said after football practice. Not just talking about guys talking about women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 10:46 PM
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This happened... to you? I'm not trying to be insensitive, sorry if it comes off that way.. but there had to be some more context to it you know... did she freeze up and allow them to move her body around and do what they wanted? In which case it's rape, or did she hide her fear and whatever else and actively participate to the point where they legitimately had no clue she didn't want it. I find the second scenario very hard to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 10:32 PM
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What problem are your talking about? I should have been more specific... TBPer's and other's problems with TRP. They don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 10:28 PM
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I don't think "fake it until you make it" makes sense either. To the extent that you are unable to act like this naturally it's practice and about overcoming your fears. If you are scared of driving a car you don't "fake it until you make it". You challenge yourself and practice until you are not scared anymore. Those two things seem like essentially the same exact thing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 10:27 PM
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That was kinda part of my argument in the OP. TRP just uses harsher language and locker room talk to get the message across a lot of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 09:48 PM
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Yep, it's a cycle... luckily an older male relative kicked me in the ass to get me going... maybe that's what David needs here.
/r/RedPillWomen06/02/14 07:35 PM
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Also, if you TBPer's wan't some good fodder for your sub, I find Judgy Bitch hilarious... You all will probably hate her lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 07:18 PM
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I don't think he necessarily represents the theory the best, but through TRP and RPW I found Athol Kay... he's most relevant to my interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 07:14 PM
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Lmao, reading that actually makes me kinda angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 07:09 PM
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I don't know why you split the cases for women and men. We live in a world that considers both sexes to have the same rights and responsibilities. In theory that works, but let's be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 06:47 PM
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I agree 100% with your first paragraph. Your second one seems like a very unlikely scenario without more info. I just don't see how two people would end up alone, with their clothes off and having sex unless A) She follows him to a bedroom and takes her clothes off, in which case I'd call that encouragement, or B) He forces her there, and rips her clothes off, in which case that's obviously rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 06:37 PM
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Oh God not this again lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 06:32 PM
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Initially, she would get torn apart there compared to what's being said here lol... it would be a bloodbath.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/14 09:16 PM
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Everyone is overlooking the fact that your comment is sarcasm... so I thought I'd help them out.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/14 05:29 PM
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That sums up the way a lot of people are taught to think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 03:55 PM
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It's a little overrated sometimes to be honest... I was just giving you all a hard time.
/r/RedPillWomen04/02/14 03:51 PM
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You cheated on her before you knew she was beating you at your own game, lol. This is stupid. You two are both dipshits and neither one of you should have been trying for an LTR. "She's not GF material" says the guy that was cheating on the girl he thought was GF material until she wasn't....
/r/TheRedPill04/02/14 04:32 AM
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Hey. It looks like your comment got caught in the spam filter, so if you were wondering why it was removed, that is the reason. It wasn't us, and I just saw that the spam filter removed it so I restored it for ya. I'm not sure why that happens, but it tends to delete comments with either a lot of, or certain types of links... if anyone reading this knows how to stop that I'd appreciate some suggestions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 04:09 AM
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Hmm. Okay, well I don't find it misleading at all. Needlessly descriptive maybe, but I don't think it was intentionally meant to mislead.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 03:41 AM
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My SO used to say the same thing as you and all the ladies that are replying to you... lol. Now it's a different story. Trying something you think you might not like was and continues to be a very positive experience for her.
/r/RedPillWomen04/02/14 02:20 AM
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This sentence makes no sense. They either differ in their decision making process or they don't, saying that they differ "neurologically" is like saying someone's heart beat increases "cardiacally". The point being that if there is a behavioral difference then, by necessity, there is a neurological difference. Where else would behaviors come from other than the brain? What's the point of this critique? They differ... full stop. You're agreeing why they differ, so is your only complaint that the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 02:10 AM
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But then MRA's blame women for these problems instead of looking inward. It always gets framed this way. Feminists are expected to blame women's problems on outside forces, but when men are having problems it must be an individual failure. Women having problems =patriarchy, oppression etc. Men having problems = Well they better look inward to see what they're doing wrong and stop blaming others. They just need more motivation, and to stop being so bitter. It's a double standard that's so ingrain…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 02:00 AM
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I didn't point to biology... or anything else. I didn't get into the reason for these things... just asked if you agreed that they are the way they are. Though I agree that they are slowly changing, I'm not sure how much.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 03:23 AM
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Would you agree that more men than women care about the opposite sexes' ambitions in regards to attraction than the other way around... because I think that's what he was trying to say. It's pretty much a given that (heterosexual) women care more about a potential mates' earnings or earning potential than men care about women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 03:07 AM
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I don't know if I would use the word imperative, but I think what mikado12 is getting at is that women are not attracted to men that aren't ambitious. Hence the whole herbivore or "grass eater" movement that japanese males have adopted. Add to that the whole "princess syndrome" thing that a lot of Japanese women have going on and you get a country where there's a serious population crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 03:04 AM
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Sure they can. If I go quiet or passive during sex my partner stops and checks how I'm doing. That's a lot more respectful than just banging away and hoping that everything is alright. What's even more respectful is if you were to just voice your thoughts, rather than expecting him to read your mind/state of being.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/14 11:39 PM
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Well then that relies on someone believing not only that women and not men have been oppressed, but that it should matter today.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 02:03 PM
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She's obviously not girlfriend material. Just want to highlight this. What, 3 weekends in a row without inviting you to anything etc... You're her boyfriend but she isn't your girlfriend.
/r/askTRP31/01/14 02:57 AM
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I like the askmen rule, thanks for the suggestion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 11:00 PM
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But asshole might be the way to go. Don't be a dick just has that ring to it for me, but I knew eventually someone would get offended. And I must be a masochist because I was absolutely positive I'd get some shit for cunt before posting it, though like I said, shouldn't dick garner the same amount of criticism... They're both gendered and referring to the genatalia after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 10:57 PM
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IMO they're either both bad or neither. Same for nigger, cracker, spic, chink, etc... They're all slurs and they're all equally as bad or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 10:54 PM
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And don't be a cunt is the last takeaway from the numbered rules... I'd say it balances out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 06:52 PM
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Check it out now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 06:16 PM
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Because of the word dick? I'm happy to add a female equivalent... 'bitch' maybe? I'm pretty sure both dick and bitch can be gender neutral though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 04:27 PM
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Haha, shit. I'm just gonna go with her comment being a mod statement while mine was more of a personal observation. Notice I didn't remove the thread, just voiced my concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 03:17 AM
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Thats why I didn't delete it. Thanks for being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 03:13 AM
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I'm calling false flag here. Day old account... half your comments removed from this sub... playing right into RP stereotypes... Edit: send me a PM or send purplepilldebate a mod mail and respond with your main account and I'll retract my statement... maybe you do truly believe that a sub full of guys whose main goal is to get women actually hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 03:01 AM
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Just what this thread needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 02:54 AM
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Typical feminist solipsisisiticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 12:35 AM
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Fair enough. I'd wager we have one of the best reply rates on the site. (totally pulling that out of my ass, but it seems legit)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 12:30 AM
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Most people here are smarter than me, so it's nice to learn a thing or two. I find myself having to use google and wikipedia just to look up the meanings of words people use here moreso than I do at any other sub. I love the fact that a lot of the contributors here from both sides seem very intelligent. I know I've learnt a lot. (maybe some linguist can tell me if I've used the word "learnt" correctly here lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 11:34 PM
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It's pretty hit or miss. A lot of the time I would agree with you.. I sometimes see perfectly reasonable comments getting too many down votes, but in this thread there is a redpiller as top comment. That may have a lot to do with the fact that he's not espousing redpill views, but still... And even though his flair isn't really giving him away pretty much everyone here knows he is redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 11:30 PM
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You didn't point me to it.. I was just reading through this thread and thought I'd go ahead and point out that I think your moderation is perfect here. Better than I would have done probably. So there's a rp mod's opinion on it. Edit: your not you're
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 11:23 PM
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It should be dropped imo. One could say that most sexual strategy, or if they wanted to argue their particular sexual strategy was amoral then that'd be fine... but I also don't like that some BPers jump to the rape argument every time this is brought up... its absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 11:04 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 02:51 PM
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haha please no
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 02:31 PM
4

I'd suggest making it maybe /r/redbluediscussion, as it is far harder to moderate a debate sub than many people realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 02:47 AM
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Why just lurk? We need more contributors.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 02:25 AM
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Haha, I was expecting this kind of answer. I'd bet there are a fair amount of masochists.... being a mod here I have a hard time believing I'm anything but.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 02:14 AM
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This is an important detail. I think I'm okay with men and women having different strength requirements for certain jobs. For the front lines however, I think women should have to pass the same physical fitness requirements as men. That's not even taking into account the fact that women's bodies "break down" faster than men's generally "in the field." I saw a study or documentary, something, that said even if women could pass the physical fitness part, they're more prone to broken bones, certain…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 01:36 AM
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Someone will say it's a false equivalency, but manboobz actually is a mod at TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 02:34 PM
2

What do you think of /r/againstmensrights?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 01:41 AM
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Sounds about right for a BPer :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 05:02 AM
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They might not be up front about it and it's just my opinion but I'd wager that there's a fair amount of man-haters there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 04:37 AM
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I would also call an all-woman space where they freely and unironically call all men douchebags and rapists I was more saying that those places tend to do that. Edit: or at least there are a fair amount of people there that do that... not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 04:09 AM
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I reserve that privilege for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 04:08 AM
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Now now... don't make me regret saying this lol. I'll clarify.. if another is being snarky or a dick to someone it'd be nice if other commenters would call them out on it without being a dick themselves. Edit; Basically, don't feed the trolls, but if you think someone can be reeled in a bit and it could foster some better debate then I don't see a problem with pointing out that they're kinda being a dick for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 03:38 AM
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/r/againstmensrights, /r/shitredditsays, www.tumblr.com ... if you're really looking for those places then there ya go lol :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 03:21 AM
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Just as a suggestion, not an official mod statement... would you mind dialing down the snark a bit? I understand you're passionate about the subject but there's really no need to be insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 03:16 AM
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Oh ok... no I think the more people the better up to a certain point. I just wish the new people would follow the rules a little better when they first get here, but that's to be expected. What I really wish is that the subscribers here that actually do a very good job of adhering to the rules would call out other users, only because from what I've observed, it's received better coming from you guys than it is when us mods have to step in for the smaller offenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 03:05 AM
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Cody will cut you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 02:59 AM
1

Haha, how'd that come about?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 02:58 AM
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It’s sad that she is so blinkered that she won’t listen to her husband. Have we really reached a stage where we pride ourselves on not pleasing our men, just to prove we are independent? Yes, yes you have.
/r/RedPillWomen25/01/14 02:42 AM
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Not at all. I don't know why you would get that from my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 02:26 AM
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I don't think the people actually debating are usually the ones down voting. I could be wrong though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 01:16 AM
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Yeah i think the majority of the down votes directed towards redpillers are coming from lurkers. I mean we are closing in on one thousand subscribers and I'd say there are at most maybe 50 people here that are regular posters.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 01:13 AM
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That's why I've been making people approved submitters though, it makes the down votes somewhat worthless because being approved takes away the posting time limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 11:05 PM
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I guess we could, but the fact is it won't change one single downvoters actions. They still go out of their way to uncheck the "use subreddit style" box in order to downvote so I don't think a rule will change it, but I guess there's no harm in making it one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 09:33 PM
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It doesn't work that way. You need to frame it in context. No one is claiming that feminists are working on men's issues. No one. It's not their job. It's not what they signed up for. For starters.. YOU SAY IT, you do! Right here in this comment. Wait for it... Men. And it has nothing to do with gays in the military. This is hetero male on hetero male sexual violence. Who is advocating for the victims? Feminists. There was that documentary that I mentioned by the makers of MissRepresentation whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 05:13 AM
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I would never shame a man or woman for being dominant or submissive. To each their own. If someone comes into RPW asking though I'd give them my honest opinion that more women prefer at least a little dominance in a man over submissiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 12:39 AM
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Can't argue with that.
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/14 08:42 PM
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There is no Team Man, because men don’t give a shit about other men. The women on Team Woman think they are fighting against Team Man (aka Evil Patriarchy), but Team Man never showed up for the fight. I agree with everything you said, but I think Team Man is just starting to show up because of Team Women fighting against the "evil patriarchy" that never was for all this time and the pendulum has swung too far. Thus, individual men and the women that can see through the feminist bs have finally s…
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/14 08:24 PM
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That's why I enjoy having conversations with you. It's not all sources and scientific studies, just two humans having a human conversation. It's okay to agree to disagree and just talk about why sometimes, regardless of right or wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 08:15 PM
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I agree 100%. Thicker skin, and people stopping with the little snide remarks that aren't really attacks, but just a hint of sarcasm. Those two things happen, and this sub would be a much more enjoyable place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 08:08 PM
2

Unfortunately this doesn't happen because people make sly little digs at each other and both sides get prickly and unwilling to assume good faith, and make sly little digs at everyone else, on and on. You just summed up the #1 problem in this sub. By far. And because these sly little digs are so hard to moderate I don't know what to do about them. They're the initial cause of every fucking problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 04:51 PM
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And I accidentally just deleted my other reply to you instead of editing... that's my sign for bed. Thanks for the suggestions and conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 05:06 AM
2

It's a good idea in theory, but no way is it going to work. Mods undermining each other is a recipe for absolute disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 04:51 AM
1

but I prefer they talk to me the same way they pretend to talk to each other; no holds barred. The only way to bring the conversation to that point is through explicit language. They can't do that in this sub. That's by design. So yes, I insist that they're a cult, and I believe that describing them that way is absolutely necessary. If that hurts they're feelings, then I'd hope you can understand my lack of sympathy. That's fine, just don't do it here. Purposefully insulting another user, regard…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 04:42 AM
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I like debating this stuff because I like challenging my own ideas on things, and the breed of red piller that venture into TBP typically aren't the kind of people that can challenge anything. I love when that happens. If it's legit it's usually some 14 year old and the comments can leave me in tears. Edit: Aside from when I do it of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 04:34 AM
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Yep. The whole "she picked you!!" thing is so dumb. She didn't "pick you" guy, she settled for you after she was done slutting it up and figured you are now the best she could do. But he better be happy with that. Otherwise slut shamer victim blamer blah blah. How dare he have standards. This womyn is giving him the gift of her vagina. In the era where all PIV sex is rape nonetheless! What an ungrateful prick.
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/14 04:25 AM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 04:19 AM
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Thats fair... and in the future I don't think we'll be removing titles such as "trp and rape" but I was just curious as to your interpretation of it. If the rules hadn't been so complicated and it was up to me I probably wouldn't have removed a thread that was titled that way. Both sides succeeded in persuading us mods to make rules that we never should have. Both sides need some thicker skin imo. In some instances both sides also need to stop being such assholes to the other. If we can strike a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 04:17 AM
1

Members of TRP... (club?) can call all women hypergamous, sluts, incapable of honor, incapable of love, and every other negative word in the dictionary with absolutely no basis other than personal experience and pissed off bloggers. And that's fine! It's just regular old conversation. That's what we're here to discuss. Things on TRP are offensive, everyone knows that. If you don't want to see those things then I'm not sure what to tell you, but they're gonna be rampant here on this sub. If someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 04:09 AM
1

As a side note: are users messaged when posts are removed? I'm wondering if users aren't aware that they've stepped over the line and don't know to moderate their own behavior better. Occasionally they are, yes. I'm not sure about the other mods but for me; there's just too many posts that get removed to message every single one. On top of that it seems that I get into an argument almost every single time I offer for a user to edit their post for re-approval. I got tired of it and just stopped m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 03:42 AM
2

Just curious.. can you see how "TRP and rape" is kinda a crappy title that would put one side on the defensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 03:40 AM
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I made my post to point out the logical fallacy made by twentyfourseven. Regardless of what I believe, which is that men are probably leaving their sick wives (concurrent with what TBP is arguing), it still stands that my point is valid. Men leave wives who are sick. That's what this statistics say, there's no other way of looking at it, and still believe in TRP's view of women. There are other ways of looking at it. If it so happens that sick women are actually the ones more often initiating th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 03:38 AM
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The best part of that post to me were the questions what's the worst that could happen, and is the potential loss of intimacy worth having the control Also, I can sympathize with the panics. My SO and I have both taken either xanax or clonopin, or ativan at some point in the past... and for me anyway, they really helped me be more laid back. Don't sweat the small stuff, and it's all small stuff. - one of my favorite quotes
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/14 03:22 AM
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Well obviously each post will be different, but I think for the example you gave, a better wording might be: "Date rape is discussed extensively on TRP here (and provide a link), and it seems that some (or a lot) of redpillers have a problem with [or deny the existence of(with examples if you make this claim)] date rape. But, that also seems really pedantic, and like I'm making TBP jump through hoops in order to submit a topic.... I really just need to think on it more, and if any redpillers hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 03:15 AM
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A legitimate question in which you called TRP a cult.... unnecessary snark trying to start problems. There's no other reason to do it. It got reported, I felt it was a dickish thing to say that would hinder conversation. If you want to edit it then I'll approve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 03:06 AM
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Have you read this post? http://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/comments/1vv2fc/gbg_the_surrendered_wife_give_up_control_to_have/ I'm sure you have, but just in case :) I think it deals with some of the stuff you're talking about.
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/14 03:03 AM
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Aren't men that have a high # of partners that wan't a woman with a low # hypocrites? Can't a woman be dominant and the man be submissive? The first one is the main one that I've seen here a lot but the latter seems to be popping up a lot lately.
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/14 02:58 AM
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No, that makes a lot of sense. The wording sometimes puts people on the defensive, and even a single different word can mean a world of difference if you get what I'm saying. I have to think on it more...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 02:31 AM
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what red pill ideas do you think can be safely assumed without being "leading"? Men and women are different. Feminism is bad for men. We certainly don't live in a Patriarchy. Men are discriminated against. Marriage is a bad idea (that's a rp one and not necessarily a RPW one). False rape claims are more of a problem than some people think. Broad ideas that are interpreted and implemented differently are the only things that I think can be safely assumed. Because contrary to what seems to be TBP …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 01:43 AM
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Yes, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 01:24 AM
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Dick - Treat each other with respect and common decency regardless of the topics being discussed. Circle-jerk - Basically don't pile on. If the only point of your comment is to ridicule another user or "jerk" about how another user got owned by a comment or something then it's best to just not comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 01:23 AM
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Thank you for continuing to give your views and discussing this maturely even when you're being met with snarky condescension.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 01:19 AM
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Jesus this comment is filled with presumptuous snark.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 01:16 AM
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Yup. Whoever initiates the divorce says very little about the relationship itself. So the same could be applied here about the initiating during the terminal illness right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 12:57 AM
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Your post was removed for breaking rules 1 and 6. If you'd like to edit it it will be reap proved.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 12:53 AM
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The point being that it's not "leading" because it's a staple red pill belief Why do you say it's a staple? Because while I'm not a redpiller per say, I don't believe that, and I saw just today another redpiller in this sub saying he didn't believe it, and clarified that it was a hyperbole to explain that women just aren't as inclined to have that trait(honor)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 12:43 AM
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No. I don't even know where I would go about starting to find numbers that say more women are submissive than men are submissive. I figured it was something that, while people may disagree on the percentages or whatever, was a generally acceptable truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 12:38 AM
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It's a unique problem that we have because the two sides are SO far apart on most things. People get offended and lose their shit. Which I understand sometimes, sometimes it just feels like I'm babysitting though which makes this whole thing no fun whatsoever. I hate having to treat adults like children, especially when a few posts ago they were having a mature discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 12:37 AM
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That's incredibly spot on. If she's been babysitting she will talk to me like she talks to the children which annoys me to no end. I come home from work and talk to her like I've been talking to the crew at work and we both need to do a better job of separating the two, it would be much more pleasant for both of us I'm sure.
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/14 12:34 AM
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Hmm, maybe something like don't attack other users, attack their arguments. That's not the right wording but maybe you know what I'm getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 12:17 AM
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I know, I never claimed it was a discussion with a mod. I thought that's what you meant by this: Sorry, I thought it was in the OP but it was a response to one of the mods. If not, my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 11:53 PM
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Yeah that's a wonderful idea... iirc other forums give mods the ability to lock threads, though users tend to get pissed off about it, lol but that's the way it goes when you're a mod haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 11:48 PM
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Thanks. I'm cautiously optimistic... more cautious and less optimistic but anyway lol.. I'm hoping maybe letting the community do some more self policing might make people step up to the plate and hopefully strive to have more mature discussion while also allowing us the mods time to perfect how the rules will be enforced. With a sub like this there is always going to be some level of moderator discretion whether people like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 11:37 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 11:34 PM
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Your comment was a reply to a user, not a mod. The user made a snarky comment that got deleted, and another one after you asked that question. It was basically troll bait, which is why I removed it. If it's a big deal I'll approve the comment. But just so you know, I did have what I thought was a good reason to delete it. Also, it was deleted the day that thread was up... I didn't go back and delete it months or weeks later like you suggested.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 09:37 PM
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As you've said, I'm attempting to answer your questions. I don't speak for individual actions of the other mods unless I know exactly what's going on... I'm getting there but I'm not ready to attach intent to their actions. This is still ongoing. I'm willing to take into consideration any suggestions you have, and I've been reading everything you wrote. But now, there is a thread specifically for the rules and the communities feedback for the rules. I would prefer to start a new discussion there…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 09:33 PM
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Well, sorry about your comment but I really don't know what to do about it without a link or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 09:15 PM
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These meta posts aren't "calling you out", they're calling for a public discussion. This post is specifically calling out the mods. This couldn't have been done over modmail and you understand why - if I presented it to you guys, I would have gotten the response that you were busy and it was causing you a headache so you deleted the thread. If I tried to push further I'd be told I was outvoted by all the mods. You assumed that and made this post. Again, I suggest that instead of getting defensiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 09:12 PM
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It's the inside (not what's spilling over the sides) that counts ;)
/r/RedPillWomen22/01/14 08:37 PM
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I didn't brigade, neither did anyone else taking part - yet we're the ones who were punished. This happens everywhere on reddit. Click on a link from srs or srd and half the time the entire comment chains are removed. Unfortunately it's the only way to deal with a brigade and it's an accepted practice for mods to do this. It sucks, but it is what it is. I posted the comment that was deleted above. I see no way at all that it could be against the rules. Where is it posted, in the OP? I've looked …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 08:36 PM
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I understand why the other mods seem upset. These meta posts are sometimes made calling us out when the first step should have been to settle it in modmail. Also, they're "spewing bullshit", as you put it because you straight up started this post by attacking the mods. The mods are too lazy to do their jobs. . that's just shitty behavior . You done fucked up here, mods . What the fuck guys. We're not just going to sit back and take that kind of shit and then bend over backwards to be polite to y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 08:30 PM
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This raises a red flag IMO. For me as well. If she wants to be a "submissive woman" and housewife and all that then more than likely she's gonna have to find a guy whose life she can fit into, not the other way around.
/r/RedPillWomen22/01/14 08:22 PM
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He said that in the context that these are his beliefs and that they don't apply to everyone. Unless you want him to end every single comment with the same qualifier that he believes that most people.... but it's obvious what he's saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 08:16 PM
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Look at this special white knight snowflake from the comments Well, Marie, I might be odd (most likely ;-), but I'd have ignored the "bimbo" and contacted the "nerdy" you. :-) That's what I usually do on dating sites. The lady better have big brains, otherwise she's out. Looks like I'm a rare or endagered species! :-D
/r/RedPillWomen22/01/14 08:15 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/tjHGNpf.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 06:04 PM
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And when we hire new mods there's a learning curve with them. They have to be brought up to date on everything, and there's been so much meta shit that they will inevitably make a mistake... and when that happens that will spawn another 3 days and 2 more meta posts about how shitty we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 04:56 PM
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I wasn't around for this one so I only have this to say about it: That thread got brigaded. You're allowed to post to your home subs, as per the rules, but as long as the subscribers of the home subs are gonna downvote shit over here, stuff is gonna get removed. I would have removed the thread in question for that reason alone. The linked comments went from about even or +1 to all of his comments going -5 or worse after TBP got it. Edit: Whilst searching for a specific post in old threads I noti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 04:29 PM
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Ah, but you're leaving out the context. He also said right before that: I'm probably at one end of the spectrum, but I do believe that most people would be happier if they learnt to add at least a little of this dynamic into their relationships. So, he's at the end of the spectrum, and he believes most people would be happier. So, no absolute truth, he clarified that it was only his belief, and he added the qualifier most to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 04:00 PM
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It's a law specifically designed to address violence against women, lol. Everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 03:57 PM
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I have no clue if your asking for a specific number... or are you wondering because you don't believe it to be the case at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 03:55 PM
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That's because we live in a gynecocracy, imo. Even though men make up the majority of lawmakers, there are no laws catering to men. There are however several laws that cater to women. VAWA, Title IX, custody laws, selective service, the Duluth Model, FGM is illegal but not Male Circumcision, child support, spousal support, women live 7 years longer than men on average but get to retire early, etc, etc... I'm sure there's more. Patriarchy my ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 04:48 AM
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Neither. They play off of percentages. A larger percentage of women are submissive than men are. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 04:39 AM
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link?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 04:38 AM
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I think maybe we could learn a lot from each other. I too can articulate what I want much clearer through text (to my husband). I do get flustered face to face and I know he is much better equipped than I am to come up with proper/rational arguments for things on the fly than I am. This sounds exactly like my SO. If I could keep in mind that we are on the same team when we disagree I believe this would not be as problematic. I think I need to do a better job of this. I tend to take things too pe…
/r/RedPillWomen22/01/14 03:23 AM
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Jesus. Well, know that you're the type of woman that when she knows she's done something wrong she goes all out to correct it. Because that's the vibe I get from you. You can't change the past but it seems like you're doing your absolute best and then some to change the future.
/r/RedPillWomen22/01/14 03:19 AM
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Yes I've been a very selfish wife and it is quite embarrassing to say the least. Just wanted to throw this out there but from reading your posts here I find this extremely hard to believe. You seem to be the opposite of selfish.
/r/RedPillWomen22/01/14 02:15 AM
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I used to get a little jealous because my SO seemed to communicate with others so much better than she could with me. I think MrsStrom might have a point. My So was so worried that I might judge her that she had trouble talking about certain things with me, face to face. Somehow we figured out that she (my SO) was able to honestly express herself much better through text when we didn't have to look eye to eye. So that's what we did for awhile. She morphed into someone who previously couldn't bar…
/r/RedPillWomen22/01/14 02:13 AM
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I believe it. I need to tell my SO actually that she's been doing a much better job with this so thanks for reminding me. I used to feel like I was walking on eggshells constantly because of this. I felt like I needed to figure out her mood and then on top that what she might want or not want me to say at any given time and it almost caused us to separate for awhile. I'm so glad we were able to talk about it and she stopped doing that crap. It's probably one of the most stressful things a guy ha…
/r/RedPillWomen22/01/14 02:04 AM
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And that's your opinion and I respect it. I wasn't saying that me being smarter was a fact per say. Your replies led me to believe that you might be the type of person that disagrees with facts when those facts happen to be racist, sexist, or whatever. I was asking if that was the case. For example if someone gave some facts on black people committing more crime would you find that racist? If someone gave some facts on men being more violent would you find that sexist? Or if someone gave some fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 01:55 AM
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Haha, ok then. It sounds kinda like maybe you're one of those people that get mad about facts.. is that the case? Facts aren't offensive, they just are. How you treat people upon learning certain facts might be offensive yes. But, I don't treat my SO as lesser just because I think (and she thinks I might add) that I'm probably objectively smarter than she is. I have a feeling that might not matter to you though, I could be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 12:04 AM
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I wouldn't say "absolutely", maybe "overall", yes. Or to put it another way, I'm probably predominantly smarter than her. Edit: I think we're arguing pointless semantics, but I'm curious as to where this is going so I answered your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/14 11:50 PM
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Yeah, I don't doubt it. Apparently this theory of mine holds far less water than I thought. And that's fine, I was looking for discussion and you and several others have proven that this is not a gendered thing. :)
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/14 11:44 PM
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Well, it's ok to say it, but it should tell anyone who hears it that you need help. Lol , ok that's your prerogative. I just don't see saying "so and so is smarter than I am" as a "call for help" or "self-esteem issues." But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/14 10:02 PM
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I'm glad you're having fun with the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/14 10:00 PM
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In certain subjects, yes. If I'm being truthful then in most subjects, yes. I value her's far above mine in some subjects too. I don't think any of that means that either of us necessarily has low self esteem though. That's what I took issue with. You say that rating your partners intellect as higher than yours is an obvious symptom of low self esteem, which I don't agree with. Your partner could simply be smarter than you. It's okay to say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/14 09:02 PM
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Fair enough, other people are equating RPW with slaves with low self esteem and mental illness though so I'll just leave the comment even though it's not directed at you specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/14 08:32 PM
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you clearly value his intellect higher than yours which is an obvious symptom of low self esteem. That's not how that works. I value my stepfather's intellect more than mine. Does that mean I have low self esteem? Because that's essentially what you're saying. Do you not know of a single person who's intellect you might value more than your own?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/14 08:29 PM
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What a lot of people (including you here) seem to miss is that submission takes a great deal of strength. Submission requires love, respect and a wiling yield to another. A personal relationship where there is devotion, knowledge, and foresight to the future. Submission is done as a very purposeful act, where the one you are submitting to has proved themselves worthy of your submission, devotion, and most of all, trust. Oftentimes submission seems to be compared to rom a woman who struggles with…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/14 08:18 PM
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There's one woman /u/berryokt who is like that... and she's into some gorean anime type lifestyle and just so happens to have a few things in common with some of the people on RPW. Her way of life is in no way reflective of anyone else there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/14 08:05 PM
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Maybe blow up was too harsh... but sometimes yes it kinda gets thrown to wayside until we're calmed down, sober, whatever lol.
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/14 06:06 PM
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Your answer seems to be the right one.. or at least better sourced than my theory. I found this on Tempest's blog http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC125046/
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/14 05:36 PM
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Maybe it has something to do with being comfortable with one another. I've noticed that in the earlier stages of my relationship the fights lasted longer, one of us might hold a grudge for awhile etc.. but now it's becoming more and more like you describe. We could have a blow up and five minutes later be laughing at a youtube video together. I think that's a sign of a relationship that can last.
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/14 05:34 PM
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TBP
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/14 01:54 PM
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Yeah, what I'm getting from this thread is that this behavior may be more tied to personality than gender, though some people are saying gender so maybe it's just that women are more likely to be the certain type of personality.... Correlation not causation sort of thing.
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/14 04:12 AM
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Haha... :)
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/14 02:21 AM
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That's actually really helpful, thanks.
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/14 02:21 AM
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Why do you say that? lol I don't remember what any of them mean...
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/14 02:16 AM
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I mean, I would prefer that neither phrase be used, but if I had to define "toxic femininity" it would probably entail being manipulative, passive-aggressiveness... I had some others when I first thought of the phrase that were traditionally feminine traits that would be considered "bad" but they're eluding me at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/14 02:15 AM
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I'm not sure if it's an evolutionary thing, probably not I'd imagine. I think it just has something to do with the different ways men and women process emotions.
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/14 02:11 AM
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Interesting, I'm wondering if the same is true for men when remembering events. I know there is the positivity effect in which older adults tend to favor positive memories over negative ones, and generation effect in which information generated by the self is best remembered, but I've never thought about it in terms of differences between the genders.
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/14 02:02 AM
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I was hoping someone else maybe knew what I was talking about and had some more stuff about it... I did a quick search and couldn't find much else pertaining to this exact subject
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/14 01:43 AM
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Months ago I looked through those subs and iirc I'm INTJ but don't take my word for it... I'll look again.
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/14 01:39 AM
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Lol, so maybe it's not as gendered as I thought.
/r/RedPillWomen20/01/14 11:56 PM
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Ah so maybe the gender premise is wrong, and it just boils down to different personality types. From what I'm seeing from the responses, men actually tend to do this a fair amount. That's certainly not the case with me and my SO. I immediately lose all intention to fight and whatever negative emotions I have go away instantly when I realize that whatever we're arguing about is dumb. The one thing that in my experience women do actually do more though is bring up things from months ago... maybe i…
/r/RedPillWomen20/01/14 11:55 PM
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Ah ok. Yeah, what I was thinking doesn't make much sense if you said it in a joking manner. Some of the guys like the ones you're talking about remind of that Key & Peele bit, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LGEiIL1__s
/r/RedPillWomen20/01/14 11:51 PM
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So it's really less about my gender, and more about the culture these men are used to existing within. I think it's probably both, about evenly. You are very good friends with at least one of these guys SO if I understand correctly. I don't know how well the guys know you, but could there have been some kind of fear that they thought you would "rat them out" had they said anything disparaging about their wives? Note: I'm not saying you would do that, just that maybe they didn't know you wouldn't…
/r/RedPillWomen20/01/14 10:29 PM
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I find it pretty unlikely that all 100+ of those women were actually relationships. I could be totally wrong here but I'm thinking that while he might have a very high number of sexual partners, he added that they were all relationships because he thought that a little white lie might actually make you feel better about the number. In his mind it might seem less desirable to him if a woman had a ton of one night stands than if a woman had a lot of failed relationships. That's because he's operat…
/r/RedPillWomen20/01/14 10:06 PM
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Thanks for clarifying... I was waiting for someone to come along and give you shit for that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 02:57 PM
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Interesting. Thanks for the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 02:45 PM
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What part of my comment do you find snarky?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 02:29 PM
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If that is the study you're thinking of and if it was testosterone that was measured, not gender No, it was testosterone, but it was not what you're talking about, I've heard that about males being at both extremes before... this study was something that dealt strictly with men and testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 02:28 PM
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Not specifically, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 02:26 PM
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Damn. I was simply saying that sociology is not a hard science.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 06:24 AM
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Interestingly to me, this got me thinking... are there any mammals where the females fight over the chance to mate with the males? It seems that even though baboons may have more "beta" males passing on their genes, there is still some competition taking place behind the scenes. I'm wondering if there are any species (hell, expand it past mammals to all animals) where the females engage in physical combat in order to mate. Maybe we can summon unidan over here lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 05:54 AM
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Actually you're the one doing that. She made no in general statements. She said he was better than her at literally ONE thing and you're the one misinterpreting her statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 05:42 AM
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But not everyone who submit is weak. I would add... it takes a certain kind of strength to submit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 05:38 AM
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Sidenote: I hope this subreddit is different. redpill/askredpill/bluepill/askwomen/askmen banned me and I'm sick of making alt accounts because people with sensitive egos can't discuss a question that rocks the foundational dogmas of their respective subreddit cult's kool aid. Basically, be respectful to other commenters no matter how offensive the subject matter is and you'll be fine here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 05:27 AM
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Lots of men who are physically abusive to their women consider themselves to be tough guys and dominant, but fall right apart when a woman won't put up with their shit and threatens to leave him for good or are confronted physically by someone who looks to be a match for them. Likewise I don't consider men who target women who they're assured won't challenge their authority to be dominant And you'd be absolutely right. Dominant != abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 05:24 AM
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And I think that's why I oftentimes find myself walking the very shaky rope between MR and TRP. Well, RPW moreso, but anyway. I don't agree with any shaming. I think men should be able to act however they like. I also through my own anecdotal evidence will say that I agree with trp in that the majority of women don't find certain feminine behaviors attractive coming from men. I'm also aware that my experiences do not mesh with all others however.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 05:13 AM
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ADD is a real thing, and yes it can be overdiagnosed but that is something to take up with the doctors doing the diagnosing. Kind of unrelated so feel free not respond but this is something that pisses me off when I see it. Whenever there is a disadvantage for women or girls it's chalked up to being "patriarchy" or an institutional thing. For men though, many people will dismiss it by placing the blame on individuals. "no, it can't be that men are over diagnosed, it just must be stupid doctors."…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 04:58 AM
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I don't think it's that femininity is encouraged in men these days, but rather it is more tolerated. Less and less are people shamed for not conforming to gender standards, and I can't see that as anything but a good thing. Feminine men still get shit on a lot, especially in high school. rust me, I got called slurs and fucked with for all my teenage years for being feminine. A complaint I've seen before is that it's more socially acceptable for women to be more traditionally masculine in today's…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 04:50 AM
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would be interested to see results if there are - something along the lines of IQ correlated with some measure of physical strength?) I believe there is some correlation with testosterone and IQ. I can't remember the exact paradigms of it, but I think very high testosterone males are both the highest and lowest on the scale while lower testosterone males tend to congregate in the middle. Or it's the exact opposite, I really can't remember right now lol. I'm on my phone but I'll try and find the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 04:47 AM
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The phrase "toxic masculinity" comes to mind here. I hate that phrase. I'm wondering if there is such a thing as "toxic femininity" and if there was, would feminism recognize it? I doubt it, but I don't really know. Edit: Also, I apologize for responding so late to the thread, but I've found I'm more inclined to get some decent discussion with the user I respond to without all the drama from others if I wait til a thread has died down a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 04:38 AM
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Simply, TRP is concerned with western culture and western women. Reddit's demographics lean heavily towards the U.S. and other western cultures. Therefore they are most concerned with the west. It's a lack of knowledge/experience combined with by and large a lack of caring, to put it bluntly, about eastern issues/women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 04:35 AM
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I should have specified that I was refuting the wording there. /u/sh1v said that patriarchy had little hard science to back it up. /u/mr_frob said that "sociology would like a word with you", implying that sociology was a hard science, which it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 04:31 AM
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What a bunch of horseshit.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 04:27 AM
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patriarchy, nurture over nature, etc. have as little, or less hard science to back it, due to the vary nature of the subject matter being analyzed. Sociology would like to have a word with you Hard science and soft science are colloquial terms used to compare scientific fields on the basis of perceived methodological rigor and legitimacy.[1][2][3] Roughly speaking, the natural sciences are considered "hard" while the social sciences are usually described as "soft".[3]
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 11:55 PM
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No circle jerking please.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 01:19 AM
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Ah yes, Kimmel. Do me a favor and read this and don't just outright dismiss it because of the source of the article. http://www.avoiceformen.com/misandry/sycophants/a-profile-of-michael-kimmel-2/ Although I have to admit, I've read the studies you've put forth. Very enlightening, but again, there are unfortunately a lot of studies that differ in results, question the severity of the violence and harm and how much of it was done in self defense. You're right, but one thing is certain, your statem…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 01:11 AM
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Considering women are the overwhelming victims of things like domestic violence False. Here are just a few links, but there are many many more which disprove your claim. Fifty-four percent of respondents reported being psychologically abusive, and 52 percent said they were victims of this type of behavior. Women were more likely to be psychologically abusive, with 57 percent saying they were perpetrators versus 50 percent of males. In a survey of 2,500 students at UF and the University of South …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 07:30 PM
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. I assume this is because if a car were to hit us he'd potentially suffer more injuries than I (the woman) would. Which I suppose is valiant? It just sounds kind of stupid to me. I've walked down a street before and have faced such potential hazards, but when I'm walking with a man for some reason I can no longer cope with this hazardous possibility. This is kinda dumb, but I had a conversation with my gf about this a couple months ago. I never even noticed that I did it until she pointed it ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 07:10 PM
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Keep the circle jerk in TBP please.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 05:51 AM
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Keep the circle jerk in TBP please.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 05:51 AM
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West Coast possibly?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 05:12 AM
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Maybe it's a regional thing. Getting a visible tattoo as a professional will definitely hurt your prospects in the eyes of some employers where I live. I'm not saying it's right, but you gotta play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 04:56 AM
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It appears you've been shadow banned. You might want to message the admins to see what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 04:22 AM
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I understand. I was adamantly against my SO getting a tattoo. But only because she kept talking about getting something on the underside of her wrists. It pissed me off to no end thinking that she'd do something that stupid and possibly hurt her chances at getting a job later in life because she wanted some dumbass tattoo that couldn't be covered up with typical work clothes i.e. slacks and a short sleeve shirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 04:21 AM
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Actually, that's not true. Really? http://goodmenproject.com/ethics-values/solution-mra-problems-more-feminism/ http://goodmenproject.com/ethics-values/how-the-mens-rights-activists-get-feminism-wrong/ More feminists fighting against equal rights for fathers here: http://www.glennsacks.com/enewsletters/enews_11_28_06.htm Feminists on Father's rights' groups. http://www.now.org/nnt/03-97/father.html http://web.archive.org/web/20070708213232/http://michnow.org/jointcustody507.htm Men want protecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 11:19 PM
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If that's the only place that men can turn, then it's a pretty sad state of affairs. Hey, it is what it is. You and me both have acknowledged that neither of us knows of a better place they can turn, right? Of course they don't care to! They signed up to work on women's issues! Why do you expect them to? I really don't understand my your expectation that they work on men's issues. They never said they would. Where was this promise? Who said it? Who agreed? Why is it even relevant? It comes from …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 03:23 PM
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What you're not getting, is that as a mod, we often times make judgement calls. Since your not the only one to tell me it's offensive I removed the comment. Still, even after all of this, not one person reported it. It is my job as a mod, it's y'all's job as the community to report comments that you think are breaking the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 03:17 PM
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Feminists can't work with MRAs on men's issues because MRAs That's certainly their prerogative. I'd say feminists can't work on mens issues because most of them don't care to. We hear so often that "feminism helps men too", but there are plenty of mens issues that are more important and pressing than some of the things third wave feminism is concentrating on. And noone says they have to work with MRA's. They themselves say that feminism is taking care of it. But when they're not, someone that ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 05:27 AM
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I actually will take a look at those things. Thanks for your perspective, it actually gives me some hope, as it is a much better POV than I've seen from most feminists I've talked to here and elsewhere. The fact that you acknowledge that men can be oppressed, benevolent sexism isn't something that only happens to women, etc. etc. puts you leagues ahead of a lot of feminists in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 05:18 AM
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Aside from your assertion that my question was biased I agree. I do lean a little towards some RP beliefs. As others can tell you though, even some Bpers, I do my best to leave those out of any of my mod duties.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 04:48 AM
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I thought you were saying that the thread was evidence of me being biased towards TBP.... am I wrong in that assumption?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 04:28 AM
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I agree that feminists have dominated gender discourse. That's changing too as some are starting to focus on men, and how rigid gender roles hurt men too. That's good, they're finally living up to their rhetoric if what you say is true. As far as being anti-feminist. You wrote that MRAs have a right to be anti-feminist because feminism does not concentrate on men's issues like they claim to. Come on, you must see that sentence is wrong on two levels. I did say that. What I meant was anyone has t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 04:27 AM
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You really, really, really want to say that men's issues are not acknowledged by feminists. I keep telling you that they are wrapped in sexism. This is a false dichotomy. Men's issues are not acknowledged by feminists. Some MRAs are sexist you claim. Those two things have nothing to do with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 04:22 AM
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Cunt. Whore. Alpha fucks/beta bucks. Hypergamy. Cock carousel. Slut. Bitch. Manginas. National punch a bitch day. Women aren't/are (fill in horribly negative sexist stereotype here). Aaaaaand doxxing. You're confusing MRA's with TRP here on some things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 04:19 AM
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Yes, the link is to a post I made. I don't see how it's relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 04:04 AM
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That's a totally irrelevant question. It might be TBP users reporting your comments for breaking the rules. It might be TRP, it doesn't matter either way. Whoever it is, they're not reporting criticism, they're reporting rule breakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 04:04 AM
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That's fine. I'll take it down because you asked like an adult. For the record, it still has not been reported... that's what the button is there for people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 04:02 AM
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Not that that should be surprising. You seem to enjoy a bit of bias.[1] I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean. What's with the link?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 01:34 AM
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I'll say again. Yours got reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 01:33 AM
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Look, you don't like whatever I'm doing then go talk to the other mods about it. Beyond that I don't know what to tell you. I try to be as fair and unbiased as possible, as I always have in this sub. People tend to take things too personally and assume that just because they're part of the TBP or TRP and I deleted their comment, then I must be biased against their whole sub. We've gotten over 100 reports today. I don't go and look at the context of every one unless it's not clear why they've bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 12:52 AM
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Yes, let's all act like children. Steakmeout's reply below here is definitely the adult way to go about this. I wonder if people think I'm biased because I have to deal with this kind of juvenile behavior from certain people on a daily basis? Edit: I mean seriously... I feel like I'm a fucking babysitter. Waaahhh But HE DID IT TOO! NO SHE DID IT FIRST!! WAAAHH!! it's like the sub is full of fucking children. And now some mature debater has gone through and reported every. single. one. of my comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 12:33 AM
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I'm not sure that's possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 12:32 AM
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That's exactly what I've been asking people to do. Thank you. If a comment breaks the rules report it. If everyone would do that instead of just breaking the rules right back then we wouldn't have these problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 11:45 PM
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Why do I have to explain this? People read up on shit all the time... it's a no brainer. He may have felt that BPD was relevant to whatever they were discussing, I don't friggin know. People read things... it's pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 11:45 PM
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I mean stop antagonizing people. There's a difference between your comment and the one you replied to. He suggested reading up on something... whether or not he was implying that she had BPD is up for debate. Regardless, your comment was reported, that one wasn't. Yours is obviously antagonizing, that one may be. The accusations of bias are really old and tired too. Ask another "non-biased" mod if you have a problem with me, what exactly is wrong with your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 11:10 PM
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Edit out your last sentence and I'll reapprove. Seriously, stop being an asshole for no reason or you're gonna get banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 10:54 PM
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I agree with you, people give him a hard time when sometimes he's just trying to have a conversation or participate in the debate. But, I also think he shouldn't respond to the shitty comments, if he'd just report and not respond those users would get a warning and a ban... and that goes for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 10:30 PM
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Stop antagonizing people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 09:04 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/1ozp9q/feminist_propaganda/ccxojhi If you want to read something else that struck a chord with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 08:36 PM
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Thanks for explaining your position. When people are angry, they rarely take that anger out on the source. they just look for an easy target. Do feminists go to prisons and yell at the men convicted of rape? No, they yell at the guys going to college to get degrees. Teach rapists not to rape would be much better, I agree. Here's another take: In contrast to the "even-decent-guys-rape" meme, feminist Amanda Marcotte, of all people, recently wrote about the Lisak/Miller study that chronicled narci…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 08:32 PM
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But that's the thing... I think feminism (as do a lot of people) is entrenched with sexist rhetoric. "teach men not to rape." "mansplaining" "man tears" "neckbeard" I could go on... The difference is that men talking about their problems is a turn off. Men and women alike don't want to hear men complaining. Add to that feminisms stranglehold on gender discourse and no matter how PC and a mensrights group is... as long as they're antifeminist, which they have every right to be (because feminism d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 06:32 PM
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His views are accepted and widespread among MRM. Really, because I recall him being forced to apologize, and /r/mensrights were some of the more vocal people calling him out... I can't remember about what, but it doesn't matter. I'll ask again... what group that has a primary focus on MR is okay according to feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 04:41 PM
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So what's your suggestion then. Keep it like it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 04:29 PM
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What bothers me is the need to always frame women as victims. Men as a group absolutely are oppressed, and women as a group do have certain privileges. I really don't want to get too far into this because we've had this discussion many times here. But for example: Women's "privileges" are called "benevolent sexism." There is a reason for this.. it's to make sure to frame women as the victims. Men's privileges aren't called "benevolent sexism." Men's advantage = privilege Women's advantage = bene…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 04:28 PM
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I know enough about Dworkin to know that some of the shit she said was on par with or surpasses anything Elam has said ex: In 2000, she published Scapegoat: The Jews, Israel, and Women's Liberation, in which she compared the oppression of women to the persecution of Jews,[62] discussed the sexual politics of Jewish identity and antisemitism, and called for the establishment of a women's homeland as a response to the oppression of women. I mean c'mon.. Who's the one that wants to have their cake …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 04:16 PM
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The other mods are busy with school recently so I don't know how soon I can get any rules changed, but that's actually the best idea yet. Simple, and much better than just deleting every discussion that involves paywalled articles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 03:58 PM
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Where in the world are you coming up with these claims? Well one specific user, mrsamsa says that men "as a group" cannot be oppressed. And I've heard the same thing from numerous other feminists, or people that seem to have more knowledge on the subject than I do. Also, women "as a group" cannot have privilege. The "as a group" part is what's important here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 03:57 PM
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It's really trial and error at this point. I still don't know how to handle the paywalled studies... the people that don't have access complain... even though uber apparently has access to these he's the only one complaining on this one... but he's right it is against the rules... I just don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 04:10 AM
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Is it worse than any of Andrea Dworkins works too?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 12:57 AM
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I didn't say it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 12:24 AM
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Here's what you copied, but with more context. AVfM is regularly criticized, from within and without, for maintaining a site called register-her.com which is a wiki site that lists and identifies women found guilty of specific types of crimes. The only ambiguous category on the wiki is bigot, which the site defines as “used to designate individuals whose active ideology is one that results in socially inflicted harm on men and/or boys in the general population.” All of the information on registe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 12:22 AM
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Eh... well that doesn't sound like it really proves anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 12:16 AM
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You're right and neither is AVFM. Noone has really said what was so bad about these articles that were supposedly published by AVFM but I can guarantee you that they weren't one tenth as bad as the S.C.U.M. Manifesto...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 12:16 AM
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And if you wanna talk about feminists doxxing people... what about the whole SRS doxxing incidents?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 12:00 AM
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AVFM has employed a doxxer on reddit called angentorangemrm or something like that. Gonna need a source for that claim. Including that he was employed by AVFM.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 12:00 AM
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Well I think it's a legitimate reason... but I don't think a post that has broken this specific rule has ever been left up because of discussion.. although I do remember posts that have broken other rules being left up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 11:58 PM
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(I'm wagering because the sources are blue pill, the mod response is going to be "I'm going to leave this up because there's a lot of good discussion going on already") You're right about the rules.... but you just had to add the little dig in didn't you. As of now I'm removing the submission. A better way to handle this would probably be to just message us instead of participating in the conversation while accusing us of bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 11:52 PM
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Normally I really enjoy your contributions here. But you're basically admitting to not debating in good faith here. Just because you're deleting your account shouldn't mean that you get to break the rules and shit with impunity.... it still causes others a headache.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 11:46 PM
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It's held to a fair standard on both sides. At least that's what we strive for. You can click on every other thread and see me getting accused of bias from TBP on one and then TRP on the next... if that's not evidence of nuetrality then I don't know what is. We've always been open to suggestions, but as of right now we have some good conversations and debate going on apart from a few users who can't seem to get along and for some reason that alludes me won't leave each other the fuck alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 09:36 PM
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Here's another very telling piece of the puzzle with some more context on why the feminist author was falsely reporting http://guardianlv.com/2014/01/mens-rights-course-controversy-in-australian-university/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 09:07 PM
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Very good point. This is exactly what people are doing to the MRM. They won't even let people into a lecture hall to listen to Warren Farrell because.... well I guess they have their crazy reasons. Feminists won't allow a men's studies course, and it's not because the lecturers... the academics that were going to teach it have ties to "hate groups" as they falsely reported. It's because they want to silence dissent and silence anything that might undermine the feminist worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 09:02 PM
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I'm not saying you're wrong... but I still haven't seen a source for this claim. AVFM denied it... ?I think?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 08:59 PM
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Ask why this particular men's studies course is not the same as women's studies courses. I'm not really sure... because any criticism that can be levied against the lecturers or the MRM as a whole can be applied to feminists and feminism as well. There's one difference... feminists control the academic discourse on gender studies and they're the ones that have made a boogey man out of anyone that even associates with the MRM. The main criticism of some of the lecturers (which I'm not even sure t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 08:52 PM
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The problem is that under academic feminist teachings... men as a group cannot be oppressed, nor can women have privilege, or so I've been told and that belief seems to be in line with what I've been able to read on the subject. Feminism attempts to frame things in a way that men are implicitly blamed.. even the words they choose is done so to make sure that women are always framed as the victims and men the oppressors.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 08:48 PM
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You need to compare apples to apples. The MRM, as it stands today, vs feminism, as it stands today - that's third wave. Comparing first wave feminism to today's MRM would actually make more sense. The MRM is just now beginning to gain some steam so comparing to a well established 3rd Wave of the feminist movement isn't really fair. Now, if you compared both in their relatively early stages you see one movement is much more extreme than the other, and that's feminism. There were things they agree…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 04:53 PM
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And I think he backtracked on some other things he said as well... maybe not the best spokesperson but still... Even if I personally think the course and other courses like it are pointless I don't think feminists should be using dishonest tactics in order to block them... they don't want to give ANY men's movement or lecture or class or anything even a chance. They've made up their minds and will keep control of the academic discourse on gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 03:20 PM
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They didn't give the scholars and lecturers a chance to say what they were going to study... well the specifics anyway. They took the word of some feminist articles that had misleading and outright false information in them. They caved to feminist pressure.. that seems to happen a lot. Probably because if they don't silence speech that the feminists don't agree with you get things like the UofT protests, or the whole church thing that happened in Spain or somewhere where the angry feminist mob d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 03:11 PM
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I agree. Well, I like the ones that apparently the Australian school in question actually didn't get rid of. I think they're male health/male-oriented sports medicine courses. Something that can actually land you a good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 03:07 PM
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I agree. I didn't know he said stuff like "mangina" but I'm sure he got some flak for it especially from MRA's. They generally do not like anyone using any phrases akin to "man up" or "real man."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 02:44 PM
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If that were why this was happening then it wouldn't be a problem. But while they may not have any Women's studies program, a ton of universities do... and there's not a single male equivalent anywhere in Australia or the world. Plus I don't think the male studies course getting shut down had anything at all to do with the fact that there was no womens studies. Not to mention the fact that any class that's called "gender studies" is female oriented anyway. It's just called something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 02:04 PM
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Why are we equating third wave feminism with the MRM. Perhaps because earlier feminist "leaders" were far more extreme than any leader in the current MRM could ever hope to be? To answer your question, how about Valerie Solonas? Andrea Dworkin? Why do they get swept under the rug whenever this subject comes up? What exactly has Elam done anyway that is so bad? And how does that even matter to the issue at hand.. a mens studies course at an Australian University?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 02:00 PM
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Why is it that anyone that supports the MRM gets called out for every little thing they do can be considered "extreme," but extremely radical feminists and their teachings are some of the backbone of feminism and that's just fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 12:24 PM
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I'm so used to you guys saying "Misandry!" with an exclamation point on TBP that I can't really tell if you're being serious or not, lol. From the context of your comment (and comments made in the past) I imagine you are being genuine though!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 06:07 AM
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I'll go ahead and add you. Anyone else that wants to be an approved submitter just send me a PM or reply to this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 06:05 AM
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I agree with your comment, I just have one question. Don't you think there are a ton of feminists that would condemn you for supporting MRA causes? I just think the pendulum swings both ways. You say you're egalitarian but call yourself a feminist because MRA's necessitate that you be antifeminist. But that's only some MRA's that believe that, just like some feminists believe that men's issues are inherently a non-issue and would condemn you for supporting them. Edit: I think this comment by one…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 06:00 AM
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That makes a ton of sense. I just don't see it happening because of one reason. A lot of feminists have too much invested in women studies, and feminist courses to let those things go away. I'm right there with you in that I believe gender stereotypes are about equal between the genders, but feminism cannot let that narrative slide. It would undermine them. Too many people make a living being feminists for that to happen. It's become a juggernaut that is self serving and a lot of people view it …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 05:56 AM
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''It's a slippery slope once you open the door to people with these views and give them a platform … it's not long before proposals like the ones that were rejected actually get approved,'' she said. Feminist academic Eva Cox said it was probably time to take a good look at how assumptions about gender constrain both men and women: ''Whether we need to run a university course on them, I've got my doubts,'' she said. ''The only reason I can see that you'd be running men's studies is for the men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 05:49 AM
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That's just offensive. I think this is a fundamental disagreement between TRP and those who oppose it. They really and truly don't care if it's offensive. And that's something that I agree with them on. I believe far too many things can't be discussed anymore because they're deemed "offensive." That's kinda why I like this sub. We can discuss offensive subjects usually without resorting to the same old name-calling and shit that goes along with that (at least that's what I strive for)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 05:04 AM
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Yes. Thank you. Wasn't even autocorrect, I just couldn't figure out how to spell it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 01:40 AM
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Instead of saying "here's a wiki page I'm sure you've never read before" try to engage others without the condensation (sp?)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 01:35 AM
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You don't take this argument toward converts, though, I don't think. If someone comes to you and say, I want to know about TRP, what is TRP? You don't equivocate and say, well, some of this some of that you take what you want. You tell him, X, Y, Z, this is what TRP is about, the execution may be different but that's the idea behind it. Many in TRP don't take this approach but I generally do. I've done it here several times. I want guys to take the best from it and leave the crap. Anything that …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 01:33 AM
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It just takes their most common wants and tells them how to achieve them. I think the fact that different guys want different things is at least partially the cause of the different answers you're getting. Even though it's not the answer some people want to hear, this is right. There are so many definitions and people say TRP "jukes and jives" because that's what TRP is for. You're not supposed to be lining up behind Roosh and RPS with your glass of purple kool-aid and marching around town as an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 09:39 PM
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Lets keep the circle jerking to a minimum please.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 09:34 PM
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That's fine, my objection is not to your argument, but the way it is presented.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 07:52 PM
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I just want to jump in here and ask you something that everyone seems to be overlooking. Has she always been so insufferable or did the start of all this shit coincide with her drug dependence. A fentanyl patch is no joke. It also sounds like she is addicted to percocet and motrin as well. A lot of people think you don't get addicted to OTC pain meds, but you can. Like you said, even the massive amount of shit she is taking probably doesn't take away her pain anymore, but I can gaurantee that it…
/r/TheRedPill14/01/14 07:36 PM
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Ah shit I replied to the wrong comment of yours. You had a different one which was a little sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 07:10 PM
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Don't be condescending please. This comment adds nothing to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 06:18 PM
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Try to refrain from being sarcastic to other users. I understand it's probably frustrating given that there are a lot of people giving you shit all the time all over reddit, but try to give the people that actually are responding to you without snark and condensation the same treatment. As for anyone else reading this... stop antagonizing people just because of their username or past conversations you've had with them. Everytime a prominent Rper comes here they tend to get a lot of shit because …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 06:14 PM
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Stop baiting and antagonizing please.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 06:06 PM
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I hate being so suspicious of everyone that comes here, but you might be right. If she is legit, then from what she says she was only 19 when his kid was already 6 years old... so there's definitely an age gap that I would guess is probably more than 10 years.. could be 20 or 25 years. The friends sounds like dicks that either see him as some kind of pedophile or her as a gold-digger or slut or something. Probably the latter.
/r/RedPillWomen13/01/14 08:28 PM
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Okay so he is at least fairly older than you since his kid was 6 when you were 19. So that might have a lot to do with it. Unless he had her right out of highschool then he is probably at least ten years older than you, and a lot of people are probably weird about that for whatever reason. If his friends are younger than him and closer to your age maybe that's reason for all the unwanted attention, or they feel like they can relate to you and you may be misinterpreting it a little. Regardless, u…
/r/RedPillWomen13/01/14 08:25 PM
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I'd actually be interested in talking to MR people more than feminists, but I get why I'm not necessarily welcome there. You may know of the sub, but in case anyone else is interested in that sort of thing there's /r/FeMRAdebates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/14 06:05 PM
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There's gotta be some details that she's purposefully leaving out, and that's making it really hard to understand the situation.... yeah it's weird and doesn't make sense.
/r/RedPillWomen13/01/14 05:43 PM
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Maybe I'm way off here, but are you maybe in an interracial relationship or something like that? Is that where all the guys wanting to "save" you from him are coming from? Or is it a similar situation.. is he 30 years older than you?
/r/RedPillWomen12/01/14 11:12 PM
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Welcome :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/14 11:54 PM
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I'm not aware of a comprehensive list of stuff exactly like this but I know of some similar things... wrongly accused type stuff is here http://www.cotwa.info Anti-male legislation compilation: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRightsMeta/comments/tnwn8/faq_suggestion_antimale_legislation_roundup/ Ton of good stuff here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1oljvp/updated_list_of_useful_links/ /r/mensrights is a better place to look in general for more. Sorry if that's not the stuff you're look…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/14 11:35 PM
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Lol. Doesn't really have the same ring to it as cock-carousel... good effort though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/14 07:08 PM
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Carleton University Students’ Association is cancelling Shinerama, the school’s popular fundraiser for cystic fibrosis, after the council said the fatal disease is not “inclusive” enough. LMFAO, what in the fuck! That should be on /r/tumblrinaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/14 07:04 PM
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I see what you're saying. But there's gotta be a line somewhere doesn't there? If we hold people accountable for some choices they make as adults but not others where do we draw that line?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/14 04:41 PM
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I just learned she's also an opiate addict. I've been there and it's probably got a lot to do with why she feels beaten down. Still, she also said it's a consensual relationship. I'm not one to question an adults decisions on something that I don't fully understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/14 04:47 AM
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I don't know what you mean by that. I am not everything that encompasses RP. I have an individual opinion. And apparently more empathy for someone that lives a unique lifestyle than a lot of other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/14 04:32 AM
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You saying you understand the appeal, and then going on to ridicule everything about it... those two thoughts don't really mesh. Seriously it's like ya'll are making my inner white knight come out for this chick. Jesus, if it's what she wants let her live it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/14 03:50 AM
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Oh jesus christ. If you can't handle the discourse here, then leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/14 03:41 AM
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For some people the tone changed yes. I'm sure everyone in TBP is against victim blaming. The thing is, even after knowing the context, there was a lot of attacks directed towards berry. It actually made me sick. Basically because of how cruel it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/14 03:29 AM
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I don't want to call the user out farther than that, as the user is banned here. I'll PM you. But yes, the person I'm talking about knows full well of her history. As for trp mocking dead rape victims... was there context to that at all? Regardless, only one sub between the two tries to take the moral high ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/14 03:27 AM
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That's a very good question. I don't know why you think I care specifically about her and not you. I just think there is a difference. You are an adult and are making your own choice how to live your life. Everyone else, including your child should get that same choice. I'm the same way when I defend rpw relationships. Were adults. We get to choose. I'm not deriding you and I wouldn't deride your child for the way either of you choose to live. I don't know whether or not you were forced into the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/14 01:45 AM
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Out of everything I've read that you've posted this is the only one I have a problem with. Unlike others, I believe you choose this life using your own free will. Your children should get to decide for themselves as well. Edit: I'm not saying you should hide anything from your kids, just that should they choose not to follow in your footsteps you shouldn't force it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/14 01:32 AM
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You're right that none of us know enough. The most disgusting things I've seen said to her so far though come from one of your own. It's funny how victim blaming and all that goes right out the window when it's convenient. Mocking and verbally abusing her like some of you all do in the blue pill is far worse than anything I've ever seen on TRP, and as you know I don't agree with much of TRP. You defend her when it's convenient and mock her when it's convenient. (Not using "you" to refer to you, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/14 01:28 AM
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The thing is, you ARE concern trolling. In almost every comment actually.
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/14 07:12 PM
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It seems from reading your other comments that you do understand at least parts of what we believe here, so why are you antagonizing people all over the thread? I think Phantom summed up very nicely what you're doing. . This however, is a place where we talk about our beliefs, what works for us, as well as our opinions. Would you go into a polyamorous sub and tell them "guys guys, I get that this works for you, but I'm very happy in a monogamous relationship, and you all should just be aware tha…
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/14 07:02 PM
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Everything being said here is being said in the context of the OP knowing what this place is about and what kind of advice she is looking for. Every statement doesn't need a politically correct qualifier here. We all understand that not all relationships or people are like us. We don't need a new "dominant woman" or any other special snowflake coming in here and making inane statements like "Everybody is different." Yeah, no shit.
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/14 05:38 PM
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Politically correct.
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/14 05:27 PM
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So we should be policing his thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 02:53 PM
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I have absolutely no problem with locker room talk. I guess with women people would usually call it gossiping, and I don't care about that either. The only difference is that men typically don't engage in it when around women, (neither do women around men) but women can get away with doing it around men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 02:41 PM
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So you think he would actually do it? You don't think it was just macho posturing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 02:36 PM
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I agree that some things can be chalked up to social constructs. I disagree with the feminist notion that men and women are more alike as groups than individual men are alike compared to other individual men, and same goes for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 07:42 AM
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Yeah, he's entitled to have the payment changed after he sits in jail for a few months. My cousin is going through it right now. If his income goes up, he's right back in court within a month to get child support payments raised. If his income goes down, however, it takes >6 months to get them lowered. All the while he's expected to pay the same amount he's been paying even though his monthly child support costs him more than he makes in three weeks. You're over simplifying and underestimating h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 07:38 AM
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I'm sure you have your reasons for describing your ex as RP, but it doesn't seem to fit, to me anyway. Missionary sex only? - doesn't sound very redpill. 0 passion and clinical? - doesn't sound very redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 07:34 AM
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I was reported to my academic advisor for stating as much in a group discussion at university The fact that this doesn't surprise me is a shame. The people that continue to call themselves feminists are the people that stick their head in the sand when something like this comes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 07:23 AM
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I know a lot of people don't like it when the men's side of things is discussed, but that's the point of this particular thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 03:18 AM
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Locker room talk refers to the way groups of men tend to unabashedly express themselves to each other, often with offensive/politically incorrect undertones. TBP is not a group of men strictly, and the only reason people get away with saying some of the things they say in that sub while in the presence of women is under the guise of it being a circle jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 03:04 AM
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It takes too long to get a reduction if a guy loses his job or stops making so much money in most cases. Or the guy is forced to keep earning a certain amount if that is what the child is used to or something stupid like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 02:19 AM
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Locker room talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 02:06 AM
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What happens if he stops being able to afford giving away 25000 a month? He goes to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 02:06 AM
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The problem is conversations about male victims are derailed by organizations that have a vested interest in keeping reported numbers of female agressors out of public knowledge, because money talks and it doesn't suit their argued case. I don't know if you're red or blue, but thank you for acknowledging that men have problems as well. You might not agree with my assertions that there is some feminist conspiracy to stop mens shelters from existing, but I think there is, especially in Canada.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 01:18 AM
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I agree with everything you said with one exception. The people that you say aren't trying to be sexist... I think some of them are aware. And I know people like to label me a conspiracy theorist whenever it's brought up, but I think the high level feminists are scared of losing their livelihoods if people start paying more attention to mens issues such as these. They view it as a zero sum game, and are afraid that helping men will actively hurt women. Erin pizzey is a perfect example of a femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 01:14 AM
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I do, but appreciate the link. Really sad story. Literally can't even raise the funds for ONE tiny domestic violence shelter for men to stay open, the only one in the entire country of Canada. Really goes to show the lack of empathy for men in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 01:03 AM
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Sorry to spam you, but I found something else relevant to your comment. There are exactly TWO DV/sexual assault shelters for men in the U.S....I did not know it was that bad http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/xolx3/iama_former_rape_crisis_advocate_who_provided/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 12:25 AM
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Here's a guy from MR that was denied because he was a 16 yr old male. It's really abhorrent. Thank you btw for the compliment. :) Edit: damn I forgot the link http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1bw2cg/when_i_was_16_i_was_denied_a_spot_in_homeless/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 12:18 AM
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About the 12 year old... it's not the story I'm thinking of, or a very good source, but nonetheless holds true in the policy of a lot of shelters https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.true-crime/49PU5cN3DGo
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 12:14 AM
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Apparently this is ground-breaking news to some women? Apparently this is ground-breaking news to most women.
/r/RedPillWomen08/01/14 11:53 PM
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I imagine maybe very fat, and ugly women might be able to sympathize with the slightly below average males with no social skills. But the average woman, your're right, they probably can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 10:35 PM
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His entitled bitch of a wife probably looked at it, snorted, and went back to reading 50 Shades of Grey or to go post some more inane shit on facebook.
/r/RedPillWomen08/01/14 09:55 PM
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Generally speaking, men care about women more than other men, and Women care about women more than men. I'm saying this in a very broad sense, like societal level. Men are disposable. Always have been, always will be. This is why, while I'm sure some bpers do care or worry about the guys on TRP (because in their view it's all wrong), they care or worry about women more. Society does this, not just TBP. It's probably the sole reason for the rise of the MRM. There's a reason so many are suddenly f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 09:53 PM
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ou look at feminism - wanting women in powerful positions & high-status jobs, concerns about sexual harassment & objectification, emphasis on educational attainment and academic credibility - this all reads as wanting respect. I guess I would describe these things as feminists wanting power, rather than respect. MRAs - fairness in divorce, the workplace death gap, disposable males, selective service - all lack of love. And I think this is a product of our time. From my perspective, which most ce…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 03:18 AM
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It's great that you care. Even if he doesn't leave her, which it sounds like he won't, you being there for him can't hurt. Good job being such a good sister to him.
/r/RedPillWomen08/01/14 03:13 AM
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I'm just worried that he ignores so much that even when I do help him realize his situation he will either not accept it or just accept he is 'too old' or too far gone to do anything about it. Maybe that's the time to hand him TRP. Ah. All you can do is try. My step brother is in a similar situation with a shrew of a woman. I've tried many times to make him see the error of his ways, but he also has a kid with her that I am very attached to. He pulls the "we're already in this far, what can I do…
/r/RedPillWomen08/01/14 03:08 AM
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Actually I find this very succinct. Can be applied to men and women currently, imo. edit: clarity
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 03:03 AM
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That's very interesting. Imo, men want respect more than anything, and women are looking for love (even though I do believe that women and men may generally define love differently.) I didn't watch the video yet, but thanks for the perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 03:01 AM
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I never saw you comment in TRP, but that's fair if you consider some commentators there mean. I guess I asked the question because I only ever saw you comment on RPW. On another note, how have you been? I've followed your story since you started posting in RPW and since you've been banned I've seen at least some of your posts in TBP. Any success in finding your special someone? Edit: I should clarify, this is a genuine question, and if you don't feel like answering that's fine by me :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 02:56 AM
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I can't say that I have a problem with any of that. It's mildly vague, but nonetheless it's very good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 02:53 AM
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All meat? Are you okay with fish?
/r/RedPillWomen08/01/14 01:21 AM
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This is the most interesting one so far. I think I might agree, but what do you mean by "information."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 12:59 AM
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Is it just men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 11:30 PM
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Men and women are different, and it's not a social construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 11:29 PM
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I don't think that's the only sign. If you seem effortless in it then women are more likely to respond I imagine. A guy that's "effortlessly" gaming a girl because it's something he picked up and learned on his own will be received better than a guy that isn't very good at it, and the girl can tell he's read some lines somewhere or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 11:23 PM
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Yes, that answers my question. Thanks. Noone's perfect, and what you describe sounds fine to me.
/r/RedPillWomen07/01/14 02:13 PM
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Damnit. OK. I'll get on that one tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 05:26 AM
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I'm probably one of the more moderate posters here. Even if feminism means "women=men" that's not something we subscribe to here. Not in the idealized way that feminists do anyway. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but we're more along the lines of Women compliment men and vice versa. Should women and men have equal opportunities? I say sure, though some here might disagree. What we (the subscribers here) all agree on though, as far as I understand, is that men and women are different. And not in…
/r/RedPillWomen07/01/14 05:21 AM
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LOL here's some more. Remember though, they don't shame men, not at all. Even though domestic violence is at least equal between the genders, and the Duluth Model website says absolutely zilch about even the possibility of women perpetuating domestic violence, they in no way are saying that men are the problem. lol. Does the Duluth Model shame men? No. A Duluth Model men's nonviolence program helps facilitate men's change through a process of ciritcal dialogue. Our facilitators create an open le…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 05:04 AM
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For starters: http://www.theduluthmodel.org/about/index.html A community using the Duluth Model approach: 1 Prioritizes the voices and experiences of women who experience battering in the creation of those policies and procedures. 2 Believes that battering is a pattern of actions used to intentionally control or dominate an intimate partner and actively works to change societal conditions that support men’s use of tactics of power and control over women. From the FAQ Can men who batter change? M…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 05:01 AM
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I've been drinking and I really didn't want to look for it, but I'll do it for you anga.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 04:57 AM
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That’s one of the foundational planks of modern society: getting girls to submit to anyone or anything aside from a loving, masculine husband. And that's what gets me - feminism along with other things have given women the opportunity to literally have it all. All of the rights, with none of the responsibilities if they don't want it, under the right circumstances. Why not quit while they're ahead? They have to keep pushing the envelope it seems. How many of you thought you'd ever see the words …
/r/RedPillWomen07/01/14 04:55 AM
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Genuine question. If you believe parts of RPW, do you believe that if a "strong enough man" came along, you might feel like changing that stance you hold?
/r/RedPillWomen07/01/14 04:46 AM
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I know she's an MRA but /u/girlwriteswhat comments on TRP occasionally, and probably has some of the best (if not a little lengthy) vids on Youtube. Also, I like some stuff on AVfM, e.g. http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminism-and-the-disposable-male/
/r/RedPillWomen07/01/14 04:42 AM
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In other words, the feminist mantra "women shouldn't have to conform to gender roles, women should conform to MY approved roles."
/r/RedPillWomen07/01/14 04:38 AM
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True dat.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 04:20 AM
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I agree mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 04:19 AM
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He confuses me with his views quite often lol. I can't say he contradicts himself, it's just odd to see someone that I usually agree with post something that I'm totally against.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 04:19 AM
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Whether or not it's worded like that, that's the outcome. It goes something like "The one perceived as the aggressor, or the bigger threat" or some shit like that, is basically the guilty party at the scene until proven otherwise. This leads to the man being the one that "takes the initial blame" regardless even if he was the one that called the cops.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 04:12 AM
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Yeah, and usually I won't even say anything because it gets tiring to explain this over and over. Even the "horrible misogynists" in TRP give the advice that a guy must tailor his "game" or whatever to each individual woman. I've seen it in ask women before - women expect men to approach them, while at the same time they don't want to be approached for their looks. Wtf? Not only are we supposed to figure out when and were we can approach each individual woman, we also have to use context clues t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 04:08 AM
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That explanation may be right, what I have a problem with is people trying to rationalize it like I've seen here before - people have admitted that a guy learning "game" is a manipulative creep, while a different guy that is a "natural" is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 04:03 AM
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Gotcha. This has been a common theme throughout my relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 04:00 AM
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This is one redpillers view on one specific subject. I know the whole "redpill is the one taking a position" and all that, but c'mon. Does TBP get to group TRP together even though it's stated constantly that they don't all agree on even most things, while simultaneously deriding them for stereotyping women/betas/bluepillers/womenover30/whatever else?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 03:55 AM
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If I ask for X and my husband tells me he can't give me X, then I learn he gave X to an...ex...well, sure, I'd be mega pissed. So, you are in the unpopular camp that thinks that if a man's wife -for example: gave blowjobs to her last SOs but refuses to give her current husband one, then as long as the husband asked for blow jobs before he knew that she gave them to her exes, and she refused him, he's in the right to be pissed off about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 03:27 AM
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but people focus too much on "should I feel upset about this?" and not enough on "do I feel upset about this?" This is the truest thing I've read here in awhile. In or out of context, this should apply to pretty much everything and everyone at all times. Edit: I should clarify, one shouldn't let the expectations of others dictate their own actions. I may be in a more "traditional" relationship, but if someone else wants an equal relationship (even though I don't believe they can be truly equal) …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 03:20 AM
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As for the first part there are youtube videos that I've posted in the past - not exactly scientific evidence, but everyone knows that they're pretty accurate representations on what would happen in the scenarios outlined above. I'll post them if you're interested when I get to a computer, or if someone else reads this and knows what I'm talking about maybe you can do me the honors?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 03:15 AM
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That's fine, but if she is the actual person you are trying to approach you should probably know what she as an individual likes. You are absolutely correct. Initially, though what pill head says is right. It's only later on that the individualization (not sure if I'm using that correctly) matters more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 03:10 AM
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I think Dana means more along the lines of attraction rather than relationship problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 03:06 AM
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This. But if you're perceived to be a "natural" then all is good and well. If you have learned behaviors that attract women then you are a "manipulative player," or misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 03:05 AM
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I don't agree. I think everyone deserves to be treated well, after they earn it.
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 01:31 PM
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I always feel that I should be "getting something back". I know how incredibly wrong that is, but I still can't help myself from feeling that way. What can I do? Often men's contributions go unnoticed. They're something that is "expected." For that reason, you don't feel like you're "getting something back" My advice is to think about something that he does for you that just seems like something that he should do for you, even though in reality, it's not actually an obligation. That's a problem …
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 02:40 AM
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I mean, yeah that shit happens in today's culture. Being proud of it however is another thing.
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 02:27 AM
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You are all over this thread with wonderful advice.
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 02:22 AM
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Very nice. INB4 TBP makes a post calling this "male hamstering."
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 02:18 AM
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Pfft. I can't believe you're shaming her for this. Edit: SHITLORD
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 02:13 AM
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Ah, right. Well, to each their own. Her lifestyle is certainly interesting. And I'm definitely not going to condemn her for it.
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 02:10 AM
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It was a risk, but it wasn't too much a jump considering her anti-feminist ideals. Definitely worth it though. Luckily she didn't want to pull one of my teeth out on the first date.
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 02:09 AM
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I understand. You're probably doing your sanity a favor.
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 02:05 AM
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Fix your smiley face's eye, I'm really worried about it.
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 02:00 AM
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;)
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 01:59 AM
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Seriously. This type of shit is why TRP is needed. Obviously women would message a guy that had the same type of profile, I mean... since there are no differences between the sexes and all that.... Oh, and men and women both desire sex in the same way... I mean, there are plenty of women that would allow a guy to pull one of their teeth out for some dick right? Hello? Ladies? .... Really, none of you? Well color me surprised.
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 01:59 AM
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Reading comments like this makes it awfully hard to comprehend why people call this place toxic and see it as women being coerced into abusive relationships.
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 01:37 AM
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You guys are cool. I miss your and Occam's contributions in PPD, but I don't mind coming here to see what you have to say. My SO and I often find ourselves relating to what you guys say. She doesn't have an account on reddit (she prefers Facebook and Pinterest, women amirite? lol) but she sometimes browses with me and we wish we had friends like you guys IRL.
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 01:33 AM
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Considering the differences in men and women Stopped reading here. Don't you know there are no differences between the sexes. They're social constructs woman!
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 01:25 AM
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Jesus your whole comment is sooo misogynistic!
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 01:24 AM
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What's really needed is a /r/RPLTR[3] sub that focuses on men desiring traditional, healthy relationships with submissive and empathetic women. Some might disagree, but this is the reason I frequent RPW. It's pretty close to what you describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 12:25 AM
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I don't think I know of any instances of this happening with a woman who didn't grow up in a brutal or abusive home. I'm not so sure about that claim. I"m sure there are plenty of women and men that stick with an abusive partner even though they had perfectly normal upbringings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 07:40 AM
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Mind if I ask... how did feminism have a negative impact?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 07:24 AM
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Actually, I'm curious. Are you a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 07:24 AM
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I personally like my and my SO's gender roles as well. I don't necessarily wan't everyone else to have to conform to them, but my point is that there is a double standard. Women have by and large broken free of theirs if they choose to... men, whether they want to be or not, are still stuck in theirs. Society as a whole will let women "get away" with almost anything, the same cannot be said for men. What I meant by the other part of my comment was that we will always need at least some men to co…
/r/TheRedPill05/01/14 04:37 AM
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http://imgur.com/JI7wErR
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 04:22 AM
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This is so spot on. "Gender roles" are never going to be eliminated for men. Society would cease to function. Gender roles can absolutely be eliminated for women because men and women alike will allow that.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/14 04:07 AM
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No mealz only feelz. wait..
/r/RedPillWomen03/01/14 09:27 PM
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Actually your second paragraph is a great point. I didn't think of that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/14 06:18 PM
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Me either.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 05:59 PM
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Not invasive at all. We need more RPW.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 12:12 AM
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/r/redpillwomen. Not that I don't think you can contribute here, but I like that sub and it needs more subcribers.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/13 11:44 PM
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All I see is Cosmo saying men prefer women in the "average" range but I feel like all the women men fawn over are pretty slim. That's because most men are in the avg. range. If some fat neck beard could get a skinny girl/hourglass figure or an "average" (overweight is avg in the US) which do you think he'd prefer?
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/13 11:40 PM
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I can see this chick grasping on to a halfway decent "alpha" guy and sucking the life out of him in 6 months flat. She may be feminine (doubtful looking at her replies here), and submissive and somewhat close to a RPW and better than most, but she's still got the typical bitchy ENTITLEMENT and that's the bottom line. She's looking for an "alpha", but as soon as that motherfucker slips up and loses frame once she's gonna eat him alive. She wants a "natural" alpha but someone that is a natural mos…
/r/TheRedPill31/12/13 10:31 PM
3

Spoiler: Bullshit.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/13 10:21 PM
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Being a snarky bitch doesn't make you a unicorn. It shows that you're probably a 6, coming here for validation, and will likely end up with a beta, as you put it, because Above all else, a red pill man should be able to recognize that I'm not a hot commodity by circumstance, but by choice. So, for you it's a choice, but men better not be faking it!!! Acting "alpha" doesn't make you alpha. Sure, I like to be dominated just as much as the next woman, but that doesn't mean I'm going to take it from…
/r/TheRedPill31/12/13 08:07 PM
1

Yeah, happy new year. The sub reddit has been dead lately so I figured this might spark a discussion... poor choice apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/13 07:57 PM
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All else being the same? I really can't say. After putting more thought into it, that metaphor doesn't really fit either. I guess I can see people saying he shouldn't have kids if he doesn't want them because he wouldn't be a good parent. Some people would probably question if the woman coerced him into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/13 07:48 PM
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My issue is with all of the top comments deriding this guy for his feelings. Here he is asking for advice because his wife has been lying to him about getting abortions (no small matter) for the past like 8 years. And these people are mad at HIM. He is apparently not allowed to consider himself in this situation and should only be thinking about the pain the wife brought upon herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/13 07:35 PM
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Yeah I do remember that, good point. Still, I think it's okay for him to be angry. And disappointed. Maybe I'm missing something here, but she lied to him for like 8 years. How hard is it to say hey the Dr. was wrong, turns out I'm not actually infertile... Ok maybe that would be difficult after an abortion, but what's wrong with doing something to make sure it doesn't happen again at the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/13 06:32 PM
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I do agree that the wife is probably feeling bad, but people are slamming him in there when he's just asking for advice on how to deal with the situation. It's crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/13 05:30 PM
2

Yeah I was trying to find a fitting metaphor but none of them really worked 100%. Still seems like OP is getting hammered for the wrong reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/13 05:29 PM
3

Here's the MR thread. /r/MensRights/comments/1u2sjw/more_gynocentric_goodness_from_rrelationships/ And the Original thread on /r/realtionships http://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/1u1w0w/i_32m_just_found_out_that_my_wife_31f_has_had/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/13 03:51 PM
2

Unless she has a little social lubricant then she doesn't like to express herself (sexually but in other ways as well). It's gotten better because I keep on her and don't judge her for any new things she wants to try.
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/13 03:15 PM
1

The female gaze is a far rarer phenomenon. Uh, the entire Lifetime movie network? Every single romance novel ever written?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/13 11:17 PM
3

Thankfully at least in that one almost every comment on RoK I saw was calling the author a dumbass.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 11:24 PM
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Yeah I really don't like it. It bothers me on the same level that the terms like "mansplaining" do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 11:23 PM
9

Plus Spartacus is a guy, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 02:53 PM
1

I thought it was funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 02:42 PM
3

The first one I ever read was like "Why you should beat your kids" or something like that. And he wasn't talking about a swat on the ass, he actually meant beat them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 02:40 PM
2

Yeah, this is my mistake in talking to you. Not a mistake, I've seen you in PPD and I've agreed with pretty much everything I've seen you say. I'm constantly arguing from a standpoint that I don't necessarily agree with, but that will resonate with them. t's understandable ,I think, that I should demand people I talk with clearly tell me that they have no sympathy for her. I understand. I also have some qualms with TRP so I see how you might have thought I was arguing from a different position t…
/r/TheRedPill27/12/13 04:17 AM
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Ever since the first article I read on RoK I've thought it to be garbage. You can tell by the recent Ama by one of his writers Tuthmosis, paired with the rest of the crap that gets written there that the writers are all borderline retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 04:00 AM
1

but I remember reading that, in some municipalities, after a DV call, cops are forced to arrest one person based on certain criteria (which were something like: "biggest size", "most intimidating-looking", etc.) and it led to men being arrested pretty much all the time even if the guy made the DV call because the man was being abused in the first place. Yes that's right, it's called the Duluth Model and it wouldn't benefit OP's dad even if she beat him to a pulp first and then went and punched h…
/r/TheRedPill27/12/13 03:36 AM
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Why must I "as a man" walk away, but she, "as a woman" isn't told to walk away? I didn't say she shouldn't. I tend to hold men to a higher standard in some regards though. Men shouldn't be letting their emotions get the best of them. That's repeated throughout RP. Nor is emotional abuse not justified. You're completely right. So what justified the emotional abuse he got before taking out his fists? Nothing justified it. But, like you said, where will he end up by taking things into his own hands…
/r/TheRedPill27/12/13 03:33 AM
1

That was an assumption made by the study. I don't often feel like people are unkind to me just because I'm a man either, but women get unsolicited favors and are the recipients of random generosity more than men are - I don't think anyone can really argue that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 02:58 AM
1

Well you seem to be retroactively applying the current spousal emotional abuse that OP's dad is going through to justify previous physical spousal abuse BY OP's dad. I agree with you that: Most people actually don't give a fuck whether or not it is in self-defense. They absolutely do not want to see a woman harmed no matter what reasoning that could back it up. Even in a case of actual self defense the guy is probably not going to be getting any sympathy. I guess I'm thinking more along the line…
/r/TheRedPill27/12/13 02:52 AM
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I say if you're a man and getting emotionally abused AT ALL then you need to get the fuck out of the relationship. Or just don't allow it to happen. But beating your wife? That doesn't make it justified. In fact, if someone is beating his wife because of emotional abuse then there is either no emotional abuse going on (at least not after she gets the shit knocked out of her) or the guy's woman is bat shit insane. The first situation makes you a pussy, the second makes you a dumbass for staying i…
/r/TheRedPill27/12/13 01:47 AM
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You hit the nail on the head. There was no mention of any of this being self defense in the OP. "Beating" someone does not imply self-defense and there is nothing remotely close to respectable about it. If you have to resort to beating your wife then your either a pussy or an idiot and probably both.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/13 01:43 AM
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Men and women are different. That's core RP. As much as feminism tries telling us gender is a social construct, it isn't and we all know that. Beating a woman is not alpha not redpill and not self-defense. If OP had framed it as self-defense, then in the society we live in all genders are fair game for getting the shit kicked out of them. Spousal abuse is not self defense though, that's what you seem to be missing maybe.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/13 01:41 AM
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TRP promotes the idea that gender is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that gender differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular gender. That's what people like to see in TRP. What it actually promotes is that there are differences in the genders and there are gendered traits that complement one another. People might say that men are superior when talking about a certain trait, and women are superior when talking about another. I, for one, think women are b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 01:28 AM
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That's interesting. It's probably because men don't know how to deal with receiving unsolicited acts of generosity because it just doesn't happen very often.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 01:12 AM
2

Yeah sorry, in the U.S. From a purely legal standpoint maybe "equal" was the wrong word. The thought I was trying to convey is that women are no longer legally disadvantaged in any way. Socially is another issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/13 04:30 PM
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Yes, and they shouldn't. Men complain about the fact that there are more resources for women escaping DV, stop complaining and make your own fucking shelters and resource centres. Also, LEAVE. Same advice I'd give a woman. And that would be called victim blaming by anyone in TBP. Guaranteed. Also, what do you mean by "make your own fucking shelters?" Are you implying that women built the DV shelters for women? Because I can assure you that is not the case. If you mean band together with activism…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/13 06:43 AM
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Dont women rate men by their looks? Absolutely. But, I think women are more complex in what they're attracted to than men. Dont women like to fuck? Yes, they like to fuck men that they're attracted to. Why are men obligued to want a relationship? Men are not obliged to want a relationship. In fact, nowadays women are much more open to casual sex than they have been in the past. Can you expand on this question? Why so much hate? TBP users each have their own special reason for hating TRP. Some do…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/13 06:35 AM
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It seems like more people are catching on to how perverted and outdated the ideal of marriage is. Its too bad people that are realising this are already married. Maybe that's part of it. I think it's not that the ideal of marriage is outdated but that the beta males and the women they're marrying inevitably are going to end up in sexless marriages. Women know that they don't have to do it to keep them around anymore because they've signed the paper, and men are largely clueless about how to keep…
/r/TheRedPill24/12/13 05:33 AM
1

You need to extrapolate a bit and re-submit. This question is too vague to have any kind of meaningful debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/13 03:54 AM
1

Thanks I think I understand now. Seems archaic that one can be punished for the actions of others in one instance and say the exact same thing in another instance and not be punished. I understand why but when you widdle it down to it's simplest form it doesn't seem like it's right I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 06:51 AM
1

Honestly, I don't see how the issue can be fixed. What I can tell you is that my favorite posts are ones in which TBP tries to understand TRP's position on certain things and everyone, TRP and TBP sympathizes with the other side. My least favorite are the ones where people try to tell the other side what their views are, even after the side being accused tries explaining that those views are not in fact, their views.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 06:24 AM
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Also, I want to say thank you for indulging me thus far. I get caught up in the whole "gender wars" thing often and it's nice to have someone respond nicely for a change.
/r/MensRights22/12/13 06:06 AM
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You didn't really answer my questions but that's ok. When I said I could refute every point what I meant was that I could do what you were doing up above and take something that is seen as male privilege and make excuses and try to justify it even though it still doesn't change the fact that it is a privilege. My definition of oppression is one something that negatively affects a group of people or holds a group of people down in some way. An oppression is a thing that restricts a group of peopl…
/r/MensRights22/12/13 06:05 AM
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make sense? I think so. Thanks for humoring me, I got another question though hah. If say there are two situations where someone spouts "hate-speech" as it is defined by the law. In one situation the hate speech doesn't incite anything and everyone goes on about their day and in the second situation it causes or the slur "causes" an act of violence. Then in the first situation the hate speech cannot be prosecuted but in the second case it can even if in both cases the same words or slurs or what…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 05:50 AM
1

Wow. I had no idea. Maybe I'm thinking of hate speech that instigates something? Maybe I'm wording that wrong but maybe you know what I'm talking about. Like hate speech that incites a crime or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 05:31 AM
1

I thought hate-speech was illegal/punishable?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 05:14 AM
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