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So true. Just doing my best to live well and lead and hold frame at this point. She is free to follow, or not. Thanks man.
/r/MarriedRedPill29/07/19 03:15 PM
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I agree completely. When the pattern is broken or unexpected for my son he tends to freak out. I care about him and his safety. This would/will be a problem if divorce occurs. He is 15 and getting to where I can't physically force him to do things either. probably still an excuse but history has shown a tough one to navigate. If you ever have the police out looking for your special needs son in the middle of the night you will understand. Control of my emotions is on me. I get it. If you read ab…
/r/MarriedRedPill15/07/19 09:29 PM
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yeah it sucks feeling like I have to do damage to enforce my personal space and risk the almighty law coming down on me.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/07/19 08:48 PM
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You make a very good point and it is something I have struggled to navigate since the beginning. I have done so, disappeared and gone to a movie, even spent the night sleeping on my office couch once and she never asked where I had gone. Just didn't seem to do much at the time. I've talked about it early in my MRP journey on AskMRP and would LOVE some advice on this. 1)Timing - she is often heavy on the extra harpy shit tests at the end of the day when kids need me etc. Our son has special needs…
/r/MarriedRedPill15/07/19 08:43 PM
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Solid advice. Thank you.
/r/MarriedRedPill14/07/19 06:31 PM
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Great podcast. Lots to think about. Good find.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/07/19 07:51 PM
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Appreciate it. I am Born Again Hard.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/07/19 03:59 PM
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4 kids. She is a good mother. Otherwise would have Nexted her years ago. Six pack abs are on point - until my next bulk that is. I’m fit, and I fuck. Sex is perhaps better than ever. Certainly more frequent. Fucked her after work yesterday and she woke me and pulled me into the shower with her this morning. If dread and the resulting sex were my only goal I’m 90% there. It’s just the insanity and disrespect as I deal with this other shit that is the problem. And yes I’m aware it’s my own fault. …
/r/MarriedRedPill13/07/19 03:19 PM
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Certainly open to trying it out. Heaven knows I’ve fucked it up doing what I’m doing.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/07/19 03:05 PM
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Anyone can attend on Sunday. I can no longer attend the temple. She is free to pay tithing on the money she makes. I don’t ask or care about her money. I won’t be paying it on my paycheck. That will suffice for her to keep her temple recommend. She may feel entitled to pay more as she feels entitled to them as family funds but she feels entitled to a lot of shit.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/07/19 05:06 AM
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You’re right. I need to kill the insecurities and fear here for sure. No more self sabotage. Great point on the subcommunication too. Shit I’ve been autistic.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/07/19 05:04 AM
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Thanks man. Dialing in what I actually want and giving myself permission to demand it in my life is the crux of this. With the change of my faith I feel like I am rewriting my entire brain. So many hang ups and beliefs that don’t serve. Some of it is harder than embracing the red pill. Back to the basics.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/07/19 05:02 AM
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Yeah had the shower idea as I posted. Too bad I didn’t come up with it in the moment. Still fucked her good that night.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/07/19 04:50 AM
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Great points man. Combat has been missing from my life since forever. I think you are really in to something here. Time to start looking at BJJ. I’m busy as hell now but too accessible. Time to pull away.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/07/19 04:49 AM
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“I’m sure you are going to DRER now about why you can’t get out just yet, but the only person buying that BS is you.” Dude if I could predict the future like you I would be picking powerball numbers and not fucking around here. No DEER. I’ve purposefully said jack shit about what I have and haven’t done with the church but here you go. I’m glad you realize in part how difficult it is for people to get out. Add 40 years of deep conditioning to that and you are close. Still not an excuse. Once I m…
/r/MarriedRedPill13/07/19 04:47 AM
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That one is closer but not quite it either. More like a fear of being detained by a person. Heaven help me if I ever get arrested. In retrospect I should have gone Rorschach, trapped her in there with me pulled her the rest of the way into the water and really soaked her then gone for angry sex. Couldn't have hurt... LOL
/r/MarriedRedPill12/07/19 09:54 PM
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The claustrophobia is a rough one because I am not claustrophobic in non threatening tight spaces. I can crawl through a tiny cave in the rock no problem. It's the act of cornering me aggressively or physically not allowing me to cope with a situation that I really want to leave by leaving that sets me off. Hard to duplicate for exposure therapy. But maybe I'll give it a try or seek some clinical help. As for threesomes, might be fun, but not sure I want all the drama that comes with anything mo…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/07/19 09:36 PM
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You're right of course. Early in the journey -months ago when I started to suspect things didn't add up I went to her for validation, thinking I might be missing something. That is where I fucked up. More recently it has only been when she asks me about it, but even then...total shitshow. Now I choose not to share. Sucks not to have a first mate that can help me chart that course but time to man up.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/07/19 09:11 PM
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Appreciate it. I've done my best to be patient and humble with my misgivings about the church in front of her. I haven't ranted or called it fucking stupid like I have done here. This is the locker room. But I get where you are coming from. I honestly don't care if she stays or leaves the church, but I do care how she acts. Just like I am not allowed to curse in front of her I'm certain that any indication that I am not living according to her definition of righteousness will be similarly person…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/07/19 09:09 PM
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This is fantastic and something I can do. Highly appreciated.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/07/19 08:38 PM
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And that is a profound answer without you reading my post. Set expectations. Got it.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/07/19 07:10 PM
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You got it bro. It's gone. Thanks again.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/07/19 07:05 PM
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Agree. Now go fuck yourself. Am I doing it right?
/r/MarriedRedPill12/07/19 07:02 PM
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It's cool. I'll accept the bullshit callout. Rather than dig myself a hole. I can find a few but none by mods. I'll differ on opinion on the TLDR a little just from the way i have always seen it as more of a "marketing" summary to get guys to go back and read if it interests them. I get where you are coming from and when you put it that way I agree. Thanks for clarification. Mind dropping my kickass post back into circulation now so I can remove the TLDR and get on with my life or do I need to r…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/07/19 06:59 PM
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whoa there. Help me understand. Tl;dr is against the rules now? I literally get asked for one every time I post, often by mods. I'm a wordy motherfucker - I get it. Didn't think it was a reason to delete my whole post, especially one with solid content and 100% upvotes but it's your playground I guess.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/07/19 06:46 PM
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I'm cool having it moved over by a mod if more appropriate. Posted here as a follow up to my earlier thread here. Not a lot of asks here but I'm open to advice from guys who manage to read through it. :) Just trying to provide context on this one with the she/her's but good point. I remember how many she/her's I had starting out and cringe as I think about how many are in this one.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/07/19 06:42 PM
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Yes. I definitely feel the urgency to do just that and quickly. My personal narrative is a bit up in the air right now as I go through this eye-opening transition. The church provides a super detailed playbook of compliance and obedience that leave you an incomplete and underdeveloped human being once you leave. I'm 41 but in some ways I'm fucking 15 years old. It's interesting for sure, trying to navigate this for myself without showing hesitation or weakness.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/07/19 06:04 PM
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I've not read it but will check it out. Thank you.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/07/19 05:54 PM
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Thanks man.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/07/19 05:45 PM
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Best way I heard it described was "don't call your play, talk about your jersey, your technique, the hours of practice you put in, your sore calf muscle, etc. etc etc. Just dunk the fucking basketball and fuck the cheerleader"
/r/MarriedRedPill02/07/19 03:33 PM
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escaping Mormon. Never played a cleric. Had too much of that shit in my real life. Rangers are where it's at. *nerd alert
/r/MarriedRedPill21/06/19 04:22 PM
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Thank you
/r/MarriedRedPill17/06/19 09:49 PM
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Fair enough. Thanks for helping me process this.
/r/MarriedRedPill11/06/19 11:43 PM
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All sociopath means is you don't play by the rules. It's a title and word that is steeped in negative connotation because it sounds like psychopath. Psychopathy itself is a dark triad trait and useful in measure. Sociopaths are the nonconformists to the current mainstream feminized reality. We are sociopaths for taking the redpill and embracing masculinity. Feminists were sociopaths when they broke the old paradigm. Leaders in government, business and religion are almost universally sociopaths b…
/r/MarriedRedPill11/06/19 09:07 PM
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Thank you.
/r/MarriedRedPill11/06/19 08:11 PM
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Thanks. While there is personal hostility here as I vent my sense of betrayal with guys who get it I am not openly hostile. In fact if a guy can make the church work for them or add value to their life, great. Wish I could. It would be easier. But I’d rather have truth than comfort. You’re right about community. As a high value man I make my community from the people I choose to let into my inner circle. I am the prize. I have good friends and I can make more. Community for an alpha is merit bas…
/r/MarriedRedPill11/06/19 06:37 PM
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Heard a great quote today that boiled it down. "The properties of water were not discovered by fish" I've been unable to examine things from the outside until things broke. It's crazy. And yet... I cannot and will not turn away from my principles. I don't care if it hurts.
/r/MarriedRedPill10/06/19 08:43 PM
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Sure, my example to lead her and the family. Ultimately if it is still providing value to her and not damaging my relationship I am fine with her believing. That said, chances are that is an untenable position. But I do need to unscrew myself first.
/r/MarriedRedPill10/06/19 05:14 PM
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Not sure on the formal resignation at this point. I need to navigate the new dynamic further, but that's a likely endgame. That said, my disbelief will go public as I stop accepting new callings, ask to be released from my current high level calling, and when it goes public to my wife and bishop etc. that I'm not paying tithing. That's the shift. I'm not shouting it from the rooftops or looking for attention. Just doing my own thing. And I agree. Gotta show that I provide good value and detach t…
/r/MarriedRedPill10/06/19 05:12 PM
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Good point to ponder. The counter question is, at this point, what value does it provide in my life? It is a high-demand fundamentalist religion. Hard to live in the middle ground. It certainly has a lot of demands: time, dedication, $$, and constantly having to check my anger at the dishonesty spouted as doctrine when I know better. In return for those demands, what does it give me that I want, need, can't find elsewhere? So far I don't have an answer for that. During my earlier phases of doubt…
/r/MarriedRedPill10/06/19 05:08 PM
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It’s ridiculous. Fundamentally alters the covenant which means it was never real to begin with. Now it’s wise mother Eve cucks Adam and gets a high five from God for saving the human race from bumbling men.
/r/MarriedRedPill09/06/19 04:36 PM
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Great. She has attempted to reengage and rewrite the narrative a few times since. She gets nothing on this from here on out.
/r/MarriedRedPill09/06/19 12:15 AM
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Thanks man. yep I am here in the valley. Working my exit plan. One big takeaway here is I need to have a true MAP mission and vision I can communicate to replace it. Super difficult because I’ve always had to balance my goals and “mission” with whatever God supposedly expected of me and had to check off the boxes in the church. It’s a philosophy of various finish lines. Mission, marriage, callings, heaven. In a world without finish lines it’s sometimes hard to relate.
/r/MarriedRedPill08/06/19 08:46 PM
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Profound. Thank you.
/r/MarriedRedPill08/06/19 03:09 AM
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Thank you. I feel like I’m learning to walk and talk all over again. Complete rebuild. “Why do my eyes hurt?... you’ve never used them”
/r/MarriedRedPill08/06/19 12:03 AM
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Thank you. So I can learn, what would have been the best course of action in your opinion when confronted about the lawyer meeting? I felt really good about the fact that I didn’t get defensive, didn’t apologize or feel shame, just owned it and told her that I took her threat seriously. I appreciate the feedback.
/r/MarriedRedPill08/06/19 12:02 AM
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Yeah that is a great one RFM is a stud.
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/19 08:48 PM
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LOL Thanks man. I don't mind if my wife and kids go forever. The church isn't true for me but if they get value out of it, great. Especially if I am free to counteract the bullshit with redpill reality. I've still got the beard and it is glorious. ;)
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/19 08:47 PM
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Agreed. I've had such a hard time establishing my mission my entire life. I think because the Church prescribes your entire mission for you with a heavenly finish line. Hopefully waking up like this will allow me to overcome that weakness and finally get my shit together.
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/19 05:34 PM
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I'll read it. Thank you. Telling her I am not paying tithing is fully coming out and saying I do not believe. Furthermore with the gospel of prosperity that is taught she is going to have a panic attack that we will go bankrupt and our house will burn down etc. as soon as I stop paying my protection money. Gotta slow roll.
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/19 05:32 PM
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Believe me, I have read them and researched. My question at this point is why? Why give them a dime? Not to mention that I would have to lie through my teeth about accepting and believing all of the other garbage to keep a temple recommend. I won't do it. Why keep a temple recommend? I don't intend on ever returning. That's literally what broke it all for me. The temple is what showed me I couldn't rely on the church to stand for me, or anything except itself. No eternal unwavering truth and no …
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/19 05:00 PM
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More than anything it was the stay plan same as the go plan becoming more of a reality that I hoped would give me more outcome independence and help me through this and rebuild my mental frame thus resulting in more dread. I didn't intentionally clue her in on the divorce notes, but once it was done I figured it couldn't really hurt to let her know that threats of divorce are unacceptable and will be taken seriously. As for getting my wife and kids out or relocating... I like it here. I think I …
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/19 03:28 PM
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I won't. I listed it to illustrate that I am on a timeline because come November it is what is expected of a true believer. Were I to rip that band-aid off completely at that point, either by going or not my wife would still go and the results will be the same. So in my admittedly clumsy bumbling way I have made it known at least in part that I am struggling to believe etc. Exmormons who have gone through this universally tell people not to shock and awe, and it's not something I can just STFU a…
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/19 02:53 PM
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Good question. I don't see my social life being damaged much. I have many non Mormon or less believing friends. Always have. I don't drink so I don't have that kind of buddy dynamic with anyone, but my good friend at my work is nonbeliever and a redpiller, and many others, including some secret non believers I recently discovered among our shared social group. In essence, the girls are all in and some of us men are out or mentally out. Anyone else I lose, I will know was never a true friend anyw…
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/19 02:41 PM
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Good advice. I am definitely too reactive and flooded. My religion was my meditative way to overcome my anger. With that smashed to bits I recognize I can be a bit of a bitch.
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/19 02:32 PM
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Quite possible. My worldview and frame cracked hard and she could tell. I made the mistake of being a man and relying on information. I only shared 1/1000th of what bothered me. Followed the advice of many exmormon to try to bring her along and not go it alone. I outpaced and developed too fast. Likely due to me knowing much more than her and actually being far deeper into it than she ever was. It is metaphysical for her as well as social. As expected with a woman based solely on feelings. Unfor…
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/19 05:35 AM
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You would be surprised. I hate doing business in Utah. People are immature and everyone wants something for free because you are part of their readymade social network. It’s not that way with Mormons in other states. MLM get rich quick prosperity through blessings instead of hard work mentality rules. I do all my business in other states. 100%
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/19 03:41 AM
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Yep. Been down the rabbit hole years ago and wrote it all off. Once the shelf of cognitive dissonance breaks all the issues you set up there come crashing down. Thanks.
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/19 03:10 AM
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👍🏼
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/19 03:08 AM
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Appreciate the feedback. I’ll take an introspective look. Yes. I am in anger phase. Just like I was with red pill. Similar to red pill, onceyou find out there is no spoon it is a hell of a mind fuck. It hurts. There are a ton of sunk costs. Years of my life, crushing guilt, lost opportunities etc. the financial costs are the least of all them. I’m curious as to what you believe I may have done or will do to destroy relationships. If a relationship falls apart because I choose a new personal spir…
/r/MarriedRedPill07/06/19 12:18 AM
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Ah. Yeah I’m kinda the king of that. Been a while since I’ve watched the guys due to all the time spent working out my beliefs
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 11:41 PM
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What prompted that? What would I write about that I don't here? I really don't know that I could add much value that isn't already out there. Sure I could go deeper into Church issues but r/exmormon does that in spades. And frankly, as I get through the anger phase and if I am going to truly maintain frame with regards to the church I just need to accept the fact that it is outside my frame and completely ridiculous and unimportant. That said, I do like to write when I get rolling like this.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 10:32 PM
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I know. Makes me laugh in retrospect too. Can't wait for her shit tests tonight.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 10:29 PM
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Thanks man.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 09:48 PM
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Thanks bro. if I was Jesus I'd be braiding a whip and flipping tables over right now.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 09:35 PM
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name is alphasixfour... not Jesus Christ... :)
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 09:33 PM
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no way or desire to take over my local ward. I'm a high priest, so I'm right there in the pool of highly eligible guys. But no fucking way. Would have to virtue signal hard enough to get noticed and called as the bishop, huge time commitment with no benefit - and the minute you step out of the correlated material or doctrine whatever the Church is currently teaching you will be removed and excommunicated. Even those who call attention to the church and want to stay are excommunicated for apostas…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 09:32 PM
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Yeah. I'm my own man. I don't need an organization to preach to me. I can know God on my own terms. Maybe I'll take a page from my viking ancestors and worship Odin. Makes a fuck-ton more sense. Gods that generally don't get involved in peoples lives, don't give a a fuck and only respect men who have the balls to make their own damn way in the world.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 09:26 PM
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Agreed. On top of all of it, you have to be a current tithe-payer to go to the temple, which means you have an eternity with your family held hostage. No temple- no eternal marriage. Oh well, guess I get to game and date multiple women for eternity then. Sounds fun. As for JS. 32 women is the last official count. Guess what. When I was a kid, even as a missionary, we were taught that he only had one wife. Brigham was the polygamist and Joseph never got around to it before he was murdered. made a…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 09:21 PM
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All of this is so true. I have 4 non-cooperative kids and church at 9AM sharp. Used to get pissed when my wife was slow getting elaborate girl's hairdo's finished and making us late. So much better now that I can laugh and tick off more and more time I don't have to spend in Church.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 09:01 PM
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Thank you. Means a lot. I was a missionary in Italy and have a tremendous affinity for those raised Catholic.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 08:58 PM
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Eh - institutional polygamy looks good on paper but its a fucked up dynamic. Not enough women to go around just makes more dangerous incels. And the alphas getting all the women in a closed religious polygamous system aren't necessarily alphas. They have the best family ties, the highest church stature etc. Not self selection of real men vs betas. It circumvents game and changes the rules.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 08:56 PM
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You expect a woman to be self aware enough to recognize her own hypocrisy? LOL back to Rational Male volume one for you bro.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 08:52 PM
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After being taught my entire life that we do welfare better than any church or government in the world (after all we tout it in the media endlessly ahem...-something there about doing your alms before men... what do I know?) Imagine my surprise to find out that less than 1% of church funds go to the poor, the church has over 30 billion dollars in the stock market and likely over 60 billion in business holdings, convenient, so they can say that money spent on things came from investments and not …
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 08:50 PM
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Thank you. Need to work on developing a vision to lead her. In many ways the church made for a lazy crutch for that. Shitty captain checking in. Problem I have with using church teachings that are useful for my ends, is that when those teachings change in order to make it more marketable, suddenly I'm the asshole for espousing what was taught. Furthermore, it is using the crutch. I'm no longer my own mental point of origin. So once the teachings change, any authority over my own mental model tha…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 08:30 PM
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Yep. Awareness of the warts, especially coming from church materials and the gaslighting claiming that we never taught differently is what drives me away. It's not the crime, its the fucking coverup. As a 41 year old gen x-er I straddle the old guard beliefs I was raised with and the exposure and availability of info in the digital era. I think that is why it is so hard. I can't take the nuanced millennial stance because you would have been burned as a liar if you took that stance even 15-20 yea…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 08:22 PM
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good advice, thank you.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 08:18 PM
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I appreciate Machiavellian-ism, I really do. I know guys like that in the church. And I just can't fucking take the hypocrisy. Call me autistic, immature, whatever. I am so much more self respecting when I am true to myself and genuinely don't give a fuck but while being as genuine as possible. Not to discount the value of game and manipulating situations, I just don't know that I could run the long con and respect myself. Which to me is more important than any appearances, morals or anything el…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 08:17 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/53ozx7/mrp_99_remedial_mrp_the_basics_of_deer/
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 06:53 PM
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I have no beef with guys who are making the church work for them either. Wish I could. And rest assured it's not red pill that led me away from the Church and led me astray. The church did it to themselves. At most red pill made me more comfortable with hard truths. I'm not deleting anything on here. I meant every word I wrote at the time I wrote it. Stalled with MRP is in my mind like the guys who stall out when they get sidelined by a major illness. Furthermore, it gets impossible to maintain …
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 06:17 PM
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I'll upvote that.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 06:03 PM
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I'll watch it. Thank you.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 05:57 PM
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I have no problem with the existence of God, or Christianity. I prefer to believe frankly. I am also open to the possibility that none of it is true. I'm sorting through a ton of things as rationally as possible as I go through this. I'm working very hard not to black pill it. That said, after growing up with the LDS church teaching me how all other religions were false and the reasons why only WE have the truth, and then finding out that those truth claims are misrepresentations I find it hard …
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 05:49 PM
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I can appreciate a lot of good things that came from growing up Mormon. I did do the mission 2 years of my life, on my own dime and every other thing they asked of me. When I didn't I felt guilt and shame. I'm glad you have been able to find nuanced truth in it. I can't. Once they teach you that the truth is black and white, and then you find out about all of the coverups, gaslighting, dishonesty, and flexibility of position for popularity/financial gain you have to wonder where the lying stops …
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 05:43 PM
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Thank you. I know it is a hard road. I can't live a lie. Once I swallowed the red pill it seems truth is the only thing I really care about. No matter how much it hurts. I know I still have blind spots and incorrect beliefs about things, but I'm seeking them out.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 05:19 PM
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One of the best aspects of my life right now is that my boss is not only fully redpilled and a regular reader here, but on the same page with regards to religion. He is one of my very best friends. I will suffer a cultural ostratization to be sure, but I am one of the few in Utah who can say that I am 100% secure in my career when it comes to my religious outlook.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 05:08 PM
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Yep. weaponizing the kids is one of her favorite things. It's always "her and the kids" against big bad me. Thinks it lends weight to her arguments. It's laughable. Her threat to divorce included the fact that by not believing I was "interfering with her goals" (her mission and vision is still more important than me) And that she didn't want the children taught the wrong things. Well guess what? Pull that divorce rip cord and she still doesn't get control over what I choose to teach the kids. In…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 05:03 PM
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I am much more willing to consider that as a possibility now. On both points. Thank you.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 04:58 PM
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Agreed. thank you.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 04:57 PM
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Sure. I'll admit I've gone rambo with the wife a few times in the nearly 2 years I've been at this. Not seeing how I went Rambo with her here. I've been working through my own beliefs while shutting the fuck up and focusing on my mission. As for going rambo on my religion... its kind of a funny thing. I was the equivalent of a fucking knight templar for my church. They teach you to be rambo. Claims of absolute truth will do that to you. So when you find out it's not it's difficult not to use tha…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 04:55 PM
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I appreciate the clarification. Which is exactly why I didn't threaten divorce. She did. And yes, filing for divorce is in the 12 steps of dread. I'm not there yet. I've put in a considerable amount of work to become a high value man and continue to do so. Sex has ramped up accordingly as she has seen my value increase. That is until my worldview got fucked over and I lost some frame here. Working to fix that. All I did was educate myself on the ramifications. Turns out while it would suck, it's…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 04:50 PM
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Thanks man. As with redpill, there is an anger phase centered around how long it took me to figure this shit out. I am the ultimate slow learner.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 04:34 PM
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probably all of them. Or none. Depends on if you consider a fundamental change in my personal belief system as well as a cultural and relationship change that will affect literally everything in my life relevant. That's up to you.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 04:33 PM
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What relevant detail about me do you want to know? What did I miss?
/r/MarriedRedPill06/06/19 04:31 PM
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Been meaning to write a post on this for a long time. One of the very best movies.
/r/askMRP02/04/19 03:56 PM
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Murder boner
/r/MarriedRedPill15/03/19 12:25 AM
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Nothing more intimidating to a would-be burglar than a jacked, naked redpill war-god wearing nothing but an AR-15 and a smile.
/r/MarriedRedPill14/03/19 10:14 PM
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If you can't go from boxer shorts to full-on Blackhawk Down at short notice you're doing it wrong.
/r/MarriedRedPill14/03/19 09:25 PM
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Solid post. Guy's weekend scheduled this week. will keep it all in mind.
/r/MarriedRedPill19/02/19 06:44 PM
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Open the gates for the barbarians. Life tip: be a fucking barbarian
/r/MarriedRedPill09/01/19 03:38 PM
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Good point.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/01/19 06:08 AM
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Wow. This is almost too good. You made it too easy for the faggots who stumble in here punch drunk and crying about chad to find everything. How am I supposed to make vague references to things buried three layers deep in the sidebar and call newbs out as faggots for not knowing it? It’s all here! Thanks for putting all of this together. So well written and presented. Alas I have but one giant upvote to give.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/01/19 09:50 PM
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I agree. Though I don't think it is a conscious one. The hypergamous feminine primary social order sees anything that increases Alpha traits as a threat. Primarily because those medically aided traits don't get passed on genetically. Thus impossible for her base level gene-optimizing programming to tell whether she is getting true alpha seed. Similar situation occurs with guys who don't like fake breasts, its a fertility symbol that no longer indicates a fertile mate. Most guys being more pragma…
/r/askMRP20/12/18 06:45 PM
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Welcome. Congrats on starting to unfuck your life. Now put together the go plan and kick the cheating whore to the curb.
/r/MarriedRedPill18/12/18 04:48 PM
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That will depend on your wife but expect when you start to take care of yourself and withdraw your presence that she will resist. Read the sidebar here and master STFU and amused mastery. Watch blue pill professors videos on YouTube too. Good primer and he has one about shit tests
/r/MarriedRedPill09/12/18 07:45 PM
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Good point
/r/RPChristians07/12/18 03:49 PM
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True. Only point of this long post was an introduction to MRP that would be welcoming to the cultural sensitivities of your average LDS man who finds this place and puts the foundation principles in terms specific to those guys. Really just designed to resonate with them so they can look past the chest thumping locker room antics without spitting out the pill. i.e. Amoral doesn't mean Immoral.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/12/18 05:07 PM
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You said yourself that all it requires is to be noticed being noticed by other women. Being the man that other women desire is the key. Does your wife fully believe that you will not and cannot cheat? Is that because your moral code dictates it or because you’re still a fat beta who can’t stand up to her or lead? By the same token, do you fully believe that NAWALT and she will keep her covenants and never cheat on you? Millions of churchgoing men who have been cheated on would disagree. Mormon a…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/12/18 01:57 PM
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Problem is not you having your own mission hobbies and interests. Problem is most guys following their wives around like puppy dogs begging for sex and lacking their own purpose and frame. When the wife has to compensate for that missing piece, misery follows for both.
/r/RPChristians06/12/18 05:00 AM
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All good points and things I have done since discovering redpill. Point of this post was a sugar coated delivery for the culturally naive churchgoers among us who stumble onto the redpill searching for something more, but get scared off by the dive into ice cold water. I don’t want anyone to hit the snooze button on this like I did because I was worried that it conflicted with my morality and lacked the personal frame to maintain my morality while unfucking my life. At no point am I looking to w…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/12/18 03:39 AM
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Look forward to posting more. Thank you. Trust the process indeed.
/r/RPChristians06/12/18 02:59 AM
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Exactly. Had one poster insisting that I had to spin plates and cheat to be RP so no hope for an LDS RP. Obviously some people can’t read.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/12/18 02:20 AM
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Fantastic point. I have a new relationship with guilt since discovering red pill. I simply choose not to feel it. If it is worth feeling guilty I fix that shit rather than wallow in it.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/12/18 02:14 AM
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Now you’ve done it. Actually it’s like playing two player battletoads. One player misses a jump and you’re both screwed.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/12/18 12:51 AM
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"Happy wife, happy life" Which actually results in her being endlessly unhappy as well and not knowing why. Women are optimized to hoard resources. Even intangible resources like power and control. It makes them incapable of contentment and doomed to unhappiness if they are dictating the frame. The only true happiness is for them to submit and pour themselves into their husband’s frame. To follow their husband as their husband follows God. God’s plan is perfect and accounts for our imperfection.…
/r/RPChristians06/12/18 12:49 AM
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Love it. While you can't negotiate desire, communicating this stuff in a main event type argument makes sense. It's the eternal marriage version of Dread step 10. Eternity is a long time. If you really believe in LDS doctrine, take an eternal perspective of abundance.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 11:04 PM
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Thank you. perhaps I should cross post there as well.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 10:40 PM
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Yay you posted again! good for you! Here's a cookie.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 10:31 PM
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Like I said. You are literally the only one in this thread throwing a bitch fit. This is a hand extended to similar men going through similar circumstances. If you don't fit the profile... why do you give a shit? Down vote me and continue on with your life. No meltdown. And no preaching. I'm enjoying myself. Who the fuck are you? I'm sure you can tell me what MRP and Mormon mean - since I'm so ignorant. You have neither established yourself as an authority on the Church or MRP. A 10 second perus…
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 09:58 PM
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U mad bro? Great speech cupcake. That's right, MY religion. Good thing I am not looking for the validation from you as to what is and isn't compatible with MY religion. You don't get to dictate what's compatible with my beliefs son. You can rot in your box and whatever it is you call your life if you want. It's patently obvious you are a miserable and unhappy person. You're literally the only one throwing a bitch fit here. I'm happy with the path I have chosen.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 09:33 PM
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The answers to your questions about me can all be found in this thread. As far as feeling stupid... you seem so convinced. Almost a religious conviction. So bitter and butthurt. I guess we shall see. Won’t we?
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 08:57 PM
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Whatever you say kid. Not an elder. High Priest here. Hows that for a FLEX? LOL Ouch my poor feels are hurt because one random poster who I've never heard of disagrees with me. HAHA Not a single Jimmy rustled or fuck given. I'm actually laughing my ass off. You on the other hand seem pretty pissed off. Might want to get that looked at. Like most pussies, you can leave the church, but you can't really leave the church. Rent free in your sorrowful little head for eternity. Enjoy.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 08:04 PM
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Bye Felicia. Glad you aren't going to waste any more of my time with your ignorant rants. Also glad to see you could admit it. Sleep well sweet prince.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 06:21 PM
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Just a demonstration of high value hits the hindbrain and betters your chances. If she is so shut down that it doesn't work she would just use another excuse to be frigid if she didn't have the church. Appealing to the hindbrain with passive dread and displays of value is where AWALT can be a blessing. My wife is very devout and the redpill is working wonders in my life. I still have a shit ton to do but read my one year report about how far I've come.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 05:17 PM
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Cool bro, you do you. Your username is appropriate. Never claimed to know everything. Just asserted that I'm not personally claiming the splinter sects of the LDS Church as having anything to do with what we are talking about here. If I had to engage every time someone was wrong about this shit on the internet then the Church would have to start paying my bills because I wouldn't get any work done. I'll meet you over on exmormon for a debate or by the flagpole after school for a fistfight if tha…
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 05:12 PM
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A Christian who cannot connect with the world in order to win them to Christ is useless. Agreed wholeheartedly.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 04:44 PM
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Agree. You will never be happy again. But I know personally I read NMMNG, the started reading the PUA forums and immediately hit the snoozebar for almost two years before hitting rock bottom and getting past my "this doesn't work for moral men" self-lie.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 04:39 PM
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Yep. We converted tall blondes from Denmark by the bushel early in church history. Made for a solid foundation for some great genetic stock.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 04:37 PM
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Agree with u/weakandsensitive Take your first redpill step by just going to the gym on the way home. (tell her or don't your call) risk pissing her off and be ready for the shit tests. It will be good for you. This assumes you have done at least some of the reading.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 04:35 PM
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Very well said. I think dread can work, but I need to put in the work to flesh it out a little better. This is not a refined thought, just typing out loud, so bear with me. Certainly passive dread (the best kind) that comes from fitness, increasing your SMV, passing shit tests, etc. hits the subconscious and can still work. It can be overruled by the conscious mind however and the feeling that they have us "locked down" because we wouldn't want to sacrifice our CK reward by going in unmarried. R…
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 04:30 PM
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I think I will. There are a few ideas I want to flesh out actually.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 03:37 PM
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Just a culture shock for the more sheltered among us. I've had an unbreakable cursing habit my whole life and even when I was finally ready for the redpill and the ideas outside my personal religious frame I still paused to question the validity of everything due to it being a potential threat to my religious upbringing.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 03:36 PM
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Sounds like you are well on your way. Glad to hear it. You are dead on. Feminism has crept into the churches over the years and seeks to pit us against each other. Funny how 5000 year old teachings about traditional roles still solve a lot of problems.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 03:33 PM
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So what are you going to do about it? I know it hurts. I’ve lived it. You are angry. At your wife, at God, and most of all if you are honest, at yourself. You can get depressed and go back to sleep or you can wake up and take what’s yours. The awesome part of the burden of performance that comes from being a man is while it is a pain in the ass, you have control of your life. Act like it. This little post written for LDS men is sugar coated and nice. Now you need a kick in the ass. Get to the gy…
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 05:53 AM
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Agreed. I really liked that one.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 04:42 AM
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My family left the Catholic Church in France when they killed off the Templars, started a Protestant revolution and ultimately fled to New York. We’re probably not going back. I love Catholics though. Helped convert a bunch of them as a missionary in Italy! 😉
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 04:42 AM
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LOL. I do love my Pepsi. Of the 3 hours in church each Sunday one is segregated by gender. The church is moving to 2 hour blocks starting in January to emphasize spending more time on the sabbath with your family. To me this means men taking a leadership position once more in the home and guiding the recommended church instruction in a family setting. Many blue pill betas will either plop down and watch football or let their wives drive it as they do all church functions. There are some notable …
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 04:32 AM
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Never heard of that. Been a member my whole life. I don’t work with my wife and I definetly have a life apart from her. More so now that I’ve found redpill and moved out of her frame. But it never had to do with the church. Only way I can think of that being the case is if you were talking to name tag wearing missionary couples. Typically older and retired and serving for 18 months as missionary companions. If I ever put the name tag on again I am clearing weekly time for myself away from her re…
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 04:21 AM
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Yep. Read it many times. He has some good points even. And frankly while I am happy to debate, this stuff is better kept there. I’m writing this for a large subset of guys coming from the LDS culture. It has nothing to do with whether the church is true or not. I firmly believe that the Church is compatible with red pill principles and I intend to explore that rabbit hole fully. I also recognize that the church can’t make a man an alpha and is a comfortable place to languish in beta hell. In sho…
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 03:14 AM
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Thank you and well said. That's why I call it Nintendo hard. Remember the old Nintendo games that were unbeatable? I don't think LDS redpill is unbeatable, but it does require some adjustment to your play style and sharp reflexes.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 02:59 AM
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Actually am familiar with all of that. No real surprises there. But with all of the other groups inbred, weird and outcasts not to mention having rejected other principles of the faith, I write this for mainstream Latter-Day Saints primarily. Though the splinters are welcome to weigh in if there are any. Fact of the matter is, they are so tiny as to be statistically insignificant. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints has thrived. You’re arguing with the scoreboard. We win.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 02:58 AM
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Probably be three times as good if I just posted “get with the program faggots!” LOL I’m a right wordy young bastard... and this is the SHORT version.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 02:38 AM
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First time I think you haven’t called me a faggot. Don’t worry I won’t get used to it.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 02:25 AM
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Wow that’s a great write up too. Wish I had been able to crib from it to write this. Could have saved myself some work. Not sure how I missed that in the /askmrp sidebar.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 02:16 AM
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It’s not a perfect solution. Though it does have its appeal. For years my beta self wished it would come back into fashion. What better competition anxiety, abundance and preselection- confirmation bias of value than a second wife? Here’s the problem. Alphas marry all the women and the betas are left to become dangerous incels. It only really works when you have a much higher female to male ratio such as happened with early Latter day saints when a bunch of the men were killed by mobs.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 02:16 AM
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I guess you could see it that way. I guess that makes Protestants Catholics.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 02:12 AM
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That option has officially been off the table since 1890 I’m afraid. Only weird splinter groups now. Not part of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 01:28 AM
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Good. Welcome home. Time to kick ass. By your user name I am guessing you are a TOOL fan. Forty-six & 2 off of that album is now your self transformation anthem. Get your ass in the gym, step through the shadow and come out the other side a man.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/12/18 12:43 AM
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You gotta look for the diamonds in the rough from u/MrChad_Thundercock. Hint: they are almost always bookended between calling you a faggot. Guess what? Once you can turn off your ego and ignore that shit, or better yet use it as fuel to take the advice he is giving you for FREE and DO something, he's probably one of the top 5 most useful responses in any given thread. Even if all he does is kick you in the ass and tell you to rub some dirt on it and get back out on the football field.
/r/askMRP30/11/18 10:58 PM
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Don’t point that thing at me Tiger. 😉
/r/askMRP30/11/18 08:08 PM
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This. Fix your shit first. My wife read the Surrendered Wife when it came out and promptly shelved it as "good but not really applicable" -her words, since I was a beta chump. 15 years later I put in an entire year's worth of work into embracing the red-pill changes and unfucking myself. Read that again. One Year of work. Once I started leading and making changes I dusted off our copy and started reading it without saying anything to her. I did it because I was curious as to how well it fit in a…
/r/askMRP30/11/18 06:17 PM
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Not married, no kids? NEXT Life is too short to be with a GF who won't fuck you. Complicate things with years of investment, kids, divorce rape etc. and you get married redpill... which is more about unfucking yourself and having your life, wife and everything else follow or fall away. Just a GF, doesn't matter if its been 9 weeks or 9 years. Take it from me. Dump her. Then get to the gym and make yourself attractive, read the sidebar and unfuck yourself so it doesn't happen again.
/r/MarriedRedPill28/11/18 09:41 PM
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Thanks brother. I look forward to it. Hope you are doing well.
/r/MarriedRedPill26/11/18 09:28 PM
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Yeah. I look much better than I ever have but I am small especially if I compare myself to the longtime gym chads and the guys who juice. I have a really hard time gaining weight especially muscle mass. My body really fights to stay in the 175-185 zone even when I crank the calories way up. I can change composition for fat to muscle and back again but weight doesn’t vary much. Also hate to dirty bulk and lose my abs etc then have to cut back. But I guess that’s the next step. Frankly I should ju…
/r/MarriedRedPill26/11/18 03:55 AM
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Definetly still driving ahead. Been seeing the improvements slow down but deepen as some of this stuff becomes the new me rather than a dancing monkey show. Thank you.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/11/18 06:07 PM
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Appreciate the advice. Neglected to mention that I am 5’11” and still a skinny little shit, but miles better than that skinny fat beta in an oversized polo shirt I replaced. Will definetly take better care of it moving forward. Easy to get feeling good about gains and overdo it. My 41 year-old self could kick my 25 year-old self’s ass and steal his wife.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/11/18 06:06 PM
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Will check them out. Thank you.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/11/18 02:50 PM
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Yeah I really like Jeff’s stuff. I’ll check out his shoulder vids. Thanks!
/r/MarriedRedPill22/11/18 08:43 PM
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Solid mental and physical advice. Thank you.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/11/18 04:55 PM
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Thanks.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/11/18 05:29 AM
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Appreciate the feedback. I certainly didn’t intend to write it with any hesitation just wanted to make a realistic assessment of strengths and weaknesses a year in. Hate the guys who obviously haven’t done anything and come in talking about how badass and redpill they are after 2 months. If there is hesitation there I don’t see it. Point it out please as I am curious as to blind spots or potential holes in my frame.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/11/18 04:01 AM
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Thanks man. Appreciate all the work of those here.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/11/18 03:27 AM
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Attempting to NOT water it down, but coat it in a manner that won’t offend those who would otherwise accept it but get turned off with immediate gut reaction of amoral=immoral and “too many swears” Also LDS doctrinal basis is quite strong for red pill. Need to illustrate that to bring some into the fold. And my beard is awesome. LOL
/r/MarriedRedPill22/11/18 03:26 AM
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Yep. It’s that way for too many people. If it’s not adding value in your daily life it isn’t worth it or you’re doing it wrong.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/11/18 03:24 AM
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It certainly can be used that way and is more often than not after all most men are betas. It’s also useful for instructing and providing a framework for morality when properly employed. Betas are controlled by brainwashing and alphas only kept in check by realizing actual value from a set of teachings. That’s why it is imperative that an alpha consciousy choose his relationship with God and identify how the moral code he selects adds value to his actions. Frankly I would rather believe that God…
/r/MarriedRedPill22/11/18 02:27 AM
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Thanks. Somehow I never learned that before. Was always about arriving at the imaginary finish line and finally being appreciated rather than enjoying the marathon, looking badass doing it, and being attractive enough to get dragged into the bushes to get laid along the way.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/11/18 01:44 AM
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I’m pretty confident I could do more. Probably close to 300 but years of being an office beta has made me leery of hurting my back. I know I’m strong enough to deadlift more too but I’ve got a bit of a messed up hand so grip strength is the issue there. Plus need to gain more actual weight for some mechanical leverage pretty soon. 175 is scrawny to be deadlifting much more than that. Honestly with the torn rotator I expect to lose quite a bit of bench and OHP -shit. And gain a lot in squats rows…
/r/MarriedRedPill22/11/18 01:31 AM
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It’s honestly badass. I still love my glocks but it’s nice to have a refined and somewhat rare pistol as well. And it shoots like a dream.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/11/18 01:26 AM
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I could add so much to this post but it was already long as hell. Probably would have been better posting in OYS every week instead of once a month. One note: Wife has become much sweeter and submissive. Going out of her way to do little things for me and add value. We had a dust up a few weeks back where I STFU and exercised AM and she said she didn’t know what I wanted. I had been visibly reading the surrendered wife myself and just handed it to her telling her 80% was in the book and the othe…
/r/MarriedRedPill22/11/18 12:53 AM
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Will do. Gotta earn that MRP flair somehow. LOL Not really, but I feel like I am just hitting RPM and the best is yet to come. 2018 was a constant series of punches in the face, but the best year of my life.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/11/18 12:02 AM
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Yes thank you. Realized that I'm not going for powerlifiting once I tore this damn rotator. Feels great to break the 300 deadlift though. I like being strong, and love having beach muscles. Hope I can get my shoulders and chest back in the game soon.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/11/18 12:00 AM
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Solid advice. Thank you
/r/MarriedRedPill21/11/18 11:55 PM
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Hudson H9
/r/MarriedRedPill21/11/18 10:26 PM
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Cool. Hope she got what she wanted out of it. Guess how I know you have never sold a diamond before? They are all but worthless except to the suckers buying them. Zero resale value. It was a shitty half carat we got from Zales 18 years ago. And she upgraded to what? A moissanite. Yes the rock is bigger and the ring nicer but whatever. Color me unconcerned.
/r/MarriedRedPill21/11/18 09:23 PM
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1) Can't go into a ton of details without doxxing myself even 16 years later. But the time frame was very short (less than 2 weeks) and the other party lives in a foreign country. We had been married 2 years at the time, and at this point I have to accept the fact that I will likely never know the complete truth and (I learned all about trickle truth during that event) Yes I still have anger at myself for not kicking her to the curb then when I wouldn't have lost everything doing so. I had no ab…
/r/MarriedRedPill21/11/18 07:32 PM
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LOL Was wondering how long that would take. Actually shaved down to long stubble a few weeks back, got me more attention from the wife as expected and shit tests went away, but I hated my face without it and its growing back. Her shit tests about the beard are so predictable and repetitive that it's easy mode to pass them now. Thank you, agreed -long way to go.
/r/MarriedRedPill21/11/18 06:46 PM
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My anger is 100% at myself for taking so long and being so cringey beta before. Reset every damn day. Thanks.
/r/MarriedRedPill21/11/18 06:43 PM
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Far too high quality response for a lazy question.
/r/MarriedRedPill20/11/18 02:56 AM
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Strategy: it’s better to never try so you don’t get your heart broken. Pick up some extra chores around the house and be extra nice to her and rub her feet. Try to make more money at work and eventually she will come around to see your value and she will initiate. Never make your desire for sex overt. Just sulk like a puppy and she will eventually get the hint. Holy shit how lazy are posters getting these days? I know most people are bad when they first find this place but this guy doesn’t even …
/r/MarriedRedPill20/11/18 02:54 AM
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What I mean, and mind you this is a theory I am working on - is that any self-improvement a woman attains under your leadership and by virtue of your frame, creates a bond to you. Should she consider a branch swing - her subconscious hypergamy has to be willing to sacrifice some measure of that self-improvement in order to do so. Even if she truly loses nothing, if you are the foundation of that trait in her there is subliminal fear that she will lose it. So if she builds core important traits a…
/r/askMRP16/11/18 07:54 PM
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Welcome to the desert of the real, Neo. Now comes the anger phase. Remember it is anger at yourself. And there is no spoon.
/r/MarriedRedPill09/11/18 07:20 PM
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Indeed. Her posts and the ensuing wars I got into with her sisterhood of Mormon feminists earned me a banning from Twitter *sniff
/r/MarriedRedPill08/11/18 11:26 PM
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Mormons are just like everyone else. Some good, some bad, some Betas, some Alphas. I'm willing to bet the percentages aren't too far off the average. Yes the church does a fantastic job of allowing lazy men to be feminine primary betas and believe that it will never happen to them because they are "good guys" And it allows men to be beta plowhorses forever without judgement by the tribe. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, and its requisite scriptures also has teachings that IMHO if…
/r/MarriedRedPill08/11/18 11:26 PM
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Sure, that's possible. If you are a lazy bastard and settle for whatever your current SMV is or worse... backslide into your beta ways. Hypergamy doesn't care. Read this: https://thefamilyalpha.com/creating-your-slut/ Once she gets a taste of the new standard, you have to maintain and improve on the new standard forever. As a man, the burden of performance is on you. You don't have a destination or place to rest, only a drive forward. (now I sound like the Buddha) Or, you can feel free to fatten…
/r/askMRP02/11/18 10:15 PM
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Can confirm much of this. Got some new fitted suits and shirts, lifting and looking better than most in the neighborhood/ward. (wasn't a hard average to overcome really) grew a full beard (wife hates it but whatever, I get tons of IOI's from the girls at the gym and around town and both men and women treat me differently) There is definitely a need and a place for redpill in the LDS church. Major masculinity crisis and a need to introduce these concepts in a way that won't have them screaming in…
/r/askMRP30/10/18 05:56 PM
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Again, very similar. Mine was a few years older, 10 or 12 and right about the same time she was baptized (only member in her family) Her mom didn't believe her about the abuse either. Same types of abuse and same hang ups. And the abuse was by her older brother. So imagine having to see your wife's abuser and play nice a few times a year. She has "forgiven him" but no way that doesn't have an effect. I just focus on keeping my kids away from him and driving my mission. Not sure what else I can d…
/r/askMRP30/10/18 03:27 PM
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Not a bad plan. She may need therapy. You may not need marriage counselling. I suggest the work of Dr. Jennifer Finlayson-Fife. She is an LDS sex therapist with a mostly red-pilled outlook. I made the mistake of suggesting marriage counseling back in my blue pill days right before I found red-pill. She refused (despite needing therapy for her sexual trauma) Guess what she tried to demand a couple weeks back when she was feeling the dread? You got it. FWIW I shut it down for now because I don't n…
/r/askMRP30/10/18 03:20 PM
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Also LDS as are a surprising number of us. Your story is not unique nor is it unexpected. The Church does a great job of allowing lazy beta men to become lazy beta plow horses and thinking all is well in Zion. There is also a solid foundation for red pill men but it is hiding behind “being nice” and feminism. The red pill comes in many uncomfortable truths that may not save your marriage but will allow you to finally become the man you are meant to be. You have to be able to stomach the amoral n…
/r/askMRP29/10/18 11:48 PM
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Don't get used to it. I'll likely be back to shitposting and talking about my beard soon enough. (it's glorious by the way) LOL
/r/askMRP24/10/18 11:13 PM
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Working on a Redpill approach to the gospel and Church right now myself. I too believe they are compatible. Much of church culture has been invaded by blue pill ideas and even psychotic feminists nowadays, but the doctrine is soundly red-pill compatible. It will likely be labeled purple pill by the hardcore guys in the end but I believe it can not only work but that it is critical for the men growing up in the Church today as well as many of us who drifted into beta plowhorse and lost our way. I…
/r/MarriedRedPill24/10/18 09:24 PM
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Once they are off the pedestal they will never be the same perfect lovable creatures as they were before. The bloom is forever off the rose. That goes for the way you will see all women through a fresh red-pilled lens. Hypergamy and solipsism laid bare. In short. Men are idealists and women are far from ideal. Once the idealism washes away and the anger phase passes you can accept that and decide whether she is bad enough to do a hard next or if you are a strong enough captain to lead her to imp…
/r/askMRP24/10/18 08:40 PM
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I don't see this as contradictory. Pre NMMNG and Red Pill I would bottle up all of my anger until something (usually little) pushed me over the edge and I would explode at my wife or kids. As I improve my frame, I call out the shit that genuinely bothers me right when it happens. As a result, less shit actually bothers me. Half of my anger was at the fact that I felt like I had to control my anger like mommy taught me to and be nice. Read when I say no I feel guilty. Same with desires, now I don…
/r/askMRP29/08/18 03:26 PM
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Good post. I'm in a good place to test this theory. I'm going to give this a try and will report back. Frequency has gone WAY up for me recently, if not always enthusiastic, I'm not getting hard NO. This is an area where I can lead more during sex aside from initiating. I'll let you know what I find out
/r/MarriedRedPill13/08/18 06:43 PM
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Mini FR. I was in the gas station today and there they were on the bottom shelf. .92 cents later and I had a huge 20 carat ring pop ready to go. When I got home it wasn’t long before she brought up the ring. Says she feels naked without one. Last night I countered with “might as well get naked then” and we had sex. Today I just said “well I was going to wait for a more romantic occasion”, pulled the ring pop out of my pocket and handed it to her. Sad that a year ago I would have been too afraid …
/r/askMRP27/07/18 05:18 AM
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Good analysis. I see it that way too. I see I fucked up by leaving the door open for negotiation somehow. And I agree, Rambo Alpha is going to need to work with Oxy Beta at some point to give her the feelz and balance the load. Until then I am committed to having fun with it.
/r/askMRP25/07/18 03:37 PM
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See now that's a fun counter shit test. I like it.
/r/askMRP25/07/18 03:33 PM
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I agree. I rock an awesome $45 tungsten carbide band I bought off amazon. Actually my 4th ring in 18 years. The ring she picked out isn't extravagant but it is extra cost when the budget is quite frankly zero for such things.
/r/askMRP25/07/18 03:31 PM
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I don't ever believe I am winning anything. Complacency kills. Not here to brag post. Story was for context only and illustrate what I have done so far. I'll decide what to do about the ring. I really am not worried about it, but your post does create the question in my mind as to whether it is wrong to buy your wife something nice that she wants or use this as an opportunity to show her she ain't shit. I think there is a fine line to this and as I emerge from the Rambo phase I am keeping my eye…
/r/askMRP25/07/18 03:28 PM
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ha! Take my upvote
/r/askMRP25/07/18 03:25 PM
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Nah, beta me was always planning on getting her a bigger rock, and frankly it was just a cheap ring that I never got around to. guess ins was another example of not captaining but it was down the list. Diamonds are forever right? LOL
/r/askMRP25/07/18 03:23 PM
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The ring she picked out is tasteful, just more $ than I am ready to lay out at this point. As I said to BobbyPeru above: I really am not worried about it, but your post does create the question in my mind as to whether it is wrong to buy your wife something nice that she wants or use this as an opportunity to show her she ain't shit. I think there is a fine line to this and as I emerge from the Rambo phase I am keeping my eyes and mind open. I didn't think I was hamstering before, but at least n…
/r/askMRP25/07/18 03:21 PM
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Nope. Contracts are for the divorce lawyers. I do my damnedest not to do contracts with her, (covert or overt) anymore. I don't negotiate desire. I get the commentary you are making on the system but I'm done with that shit as much as possible.
/r/askMRP25/07/18 03:09 PM
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Will watch. Good for you taking up the torch.
/r/MarriedRedPill19/07/18 07:55 PM
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Nice. The longer I am at this the more I realize the need to have a plan at all times. A plan for what needs to be done, a plan for what I want to do, a plan for the family. If not, I get sucked into her frame and her plan. Nature abhors a vacuum and if I provide one she will fill it with something. Instead I need to get busy owning my shit and invite the people around me along for the ride. Way to wake my lazy ass up. If I could upvote in here you would have mine.
/r/MarriedRedPill18/07/18 09:37 PM
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MGTOW are like the preppers who actually WANT a zombie apocalypse. It's the "I hate my job, I suck with people, and it would be much better if I could just demonstrate my untapped genius by outliving all you motherfuckers. Also I get my choice of the remaining women and get to shoot my annoying neighbors in the head guilt free" mindset. It's nihilistic, take your ball(s) and go home, can't fit into society so "I'll just quit until society fits me." I get it. You aren't good at the game and the g…
/r/MarriedRedPill18/07/18 03:30 PM
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I think it’s fine to stoically tell the adults in your life that “she decided not to be married anymore while I was away.” And leave it at that. They’ll know she is a whore. As for your daughter. Don’t tell her anything until she is an adult and asks someday. Maybe she never will. Concentrate on being a great dad and building a great relationship with her and her mom‘s failings will manifest themselves over and over again as she grows up. Take comfort in the fact that there is a special place in…
/r/askMRP14/07/18 06:17 PM
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You have fuckall to explain to her. She is the enemy now. Let her wonder how much you knew and when you knew it for the rest of her miserable little life. Don’t DEER. And Jody will get his. They always do.
/r/askMRP14/07/18 05:26 PM
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Ambush is murder, and murder is fun. Maintain discipline until squad leader initiates with claymore. i.e. what everyone has already said. There is a certain amount of lost control that comes with distance. It sucks, but stay on mission, let your enemy make the mistake and fall completely into your trap. Wait until you are home and have all the variables covered. You have no control until you get home. She is done, I know this is about your daughter but make sure it’s only about that. Don’t let y…
/r/askMRP14/07/18 03:55 PM
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Do it, and tell her she's grounded.
/r/MarriedRedPill10/07/18 06:48 PM
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Had a similar situation this week, wife was looking really good in sportsbra and yoga pants after her run, she has been getting in shape and upping her SMV as a response to my improvements... she is a good follower but man I can't slack! She was pulling the same crap with her phone the other night and I started teasing her. Finally took it out of her hands and threw it in my drawer like I do to our kids when its time for them to put the electronics down. I made sure to do it authoritatively but …
/r/MarriedRedPill10/07/18 05:43 PM
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Good to hear it. Slow burn, let the rope pull taut and keep your eyes open. Dread caused her to fix her behavior but didn't solve all of her issues overnight. This is still the woman who tried to weaponize your church and family against you. Not to say that she cannot change with your leadership, but just that you should be aware. "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet." -General Mattis Play your nice card, but be ready.
/r/MarriedRedPill10/07/18 03:21 PM
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Ouch. That will teach me. Better rethink my entire worldview because some poser gave me imaginary downvotes on the internet. LMAO Somebody got his feels hurt because his useless fakey brag post got downvoted below the threshold. Go back to your imaginary "HB10" sockpuppet and fuck off kiddo.
/r/askMRP06/07/18 05:02 PM
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Right on. Difference is no one is (should be) throwing a pity party about it. Pity party victims sort their shit out or get pushed out. Nothing wrong with acknowledging a difficulty level. Just like saying Everest is tall. One of your friends here will just say “bet you can’t climb it faggot...”
/r/askMRP06/07/18 04:34 AM
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Alpha status harder to achieve once she knows your beta self. Helps if you had alpha status and just got lazy, even harder for guys that were blue pilled or beta for life. The changes are simply seen as fake or rebellion against her rule. Many scenarios that would be a hard NEXT in a dating or plate spinning context have to be dealt with differently in a marriage you decide (for whatever your reasons) to keep somewhat intact. Abundance and dread is much harder to come by if you are committed to …
/r/askMRP06/07/18 03:39 AM
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Fair enough. Good luck to you man.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/07/18 09:00 PM
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None taken and I see where you are coming from. Just fail to see the point of a “look at me and how awesome I already handled this 60+ days ago” post and “by the way that cost per fuck post I wrote a while back that was just me doing a legal checkup was actually way after I had already killed the puppy” just comes across as a little disingenuous. I happen to like the OP and his posts have added personal value, just not sure what the point of all this is. u/red-sfpplus you do you man, stay clean …
/r/MarriedRedPill01/07/18 12:33 AM
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I’ve appreciated your thoughtful posts and challenging me as I found red pill so I am going to do the same for you bro. I get wanting to calm down and unpack things, but why wait to post? Are you seeking validation by calmly relating your tales months after they happen? Is this just your dear diary? Examine your motives. What good does having a war room forum like this do for you if any advice we give is for things that happened in the past? PUA, TRP, and MRP are supposed to be men comparing not…
/r/MarriedRedPill30/06/18 08:15 PM
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The answers you seek are already found in this post and more importantly in the basic sidebar reading.
/r/askMRP28/06/18 04:37 PM
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Thanks bro. LOL
/r/askMRP28/06/18 03:53 PM
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I get it dude. I love being right. Love winning arguments and love having all the answers. It's my nature. Guess what? It's weak-ass bullshit. The deeper I get into my journey the more I realize that nobody gives a fuck. This instinct is a craving for the validation of being right. Kill your ego and you will be free. It's not important to have all the right answers. It's more important to ask all the right questions.
/r/askMRP28/06/18 03:42 PM
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I get it dude. I love being right. Love winning arguments and love having all the answers. It's my nature. Guess what? It's weak-ass bullshit. The deeper I get into my journey the more I realize that nobody gives a fuck. This instinct is a craving for the validation of being right. Kill your ego and you will be free. It's not important to have all the right answers. It's more important to ask all the right questions.
/r/askMRP28/06/18 03:39 PM
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LOL don't lump me in with this asshole! I'm not out recruiting anyone or talking about fight club.
/r/askMRP28/06/18 03:34 PM
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https://www.indy100.com/article/samantha-sex-robot-give-consent-sergi-santos-8415701 Looks like one of the creators got cucked by his wife into giving it feelings and making it capable of saying no. Sort of defeats the purpose. And yes, lame product for incels with no game.
/r/askMRP26/06/18 08:06 PM
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Liberalism is a mental illness. Trump derangement syndrome is evidence of instability. Eject. But first get over to the_donald subreddit and send her a bunch of memes until she cracks. Trolling is fun, and if she has any potential value she will laugh at them and see the truths for what they are. More than a few have been converted to rational thought by seeing the far left for the nutjobs they are. If she is too far down the chaos hole, she will bail and you will be better for it. Her emotions …
/r/askMRP19/06/18 08:02 PM
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I can go with that... though sometimes it’s fun when she is being a bitch. I guess that’s more AM teasing in reality rather than true AA
/r/askMRP15/06/18 02:59 AM
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Agree it can be overdone. Disagree that it needs to die. But fun sometimes. Depends on the relationship and the mood. My wife would likely see that she was being ridiculous and back down. Then again my wife hasn’t ever caught me cheating like the op and has a sense of humor. Yours might be a humorless harpy. If she had her bitch shields up harder I agree best is not to entertain at all. For my situation the idea ratio seems to be 70% STFU and 30% humor. YMMV
/r/askMRP15/06/18 02:06 AM
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Thats DEERing and of course your first instinct. Defend away. Save your fragile castle and lose the princess. You are in her frame. Her frame allows her to puppy flirt and still be a bitch to you. It's not about the girls you talked to, it as about her control over you. You are her bitch. You've done well to ignore her texts. Remember she is a child having a tantrum. This is outside your frame so should be amusing at best. I wouldn't even acknowledge this basic shit test. Just raise my eyebrow w…
/r/askMRP14/06/18 10:24 PM
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You are also misinterpreting what I'm saying, or else, I'm not being clear. That's what I'm trying to convey to you. Just not seeing it yet. I didn't say it was an assault, just that it was contrary to popular thought and thus needed a well founded argument to back it up. Something that I don't see yet. I will concede the point that it's possible that she just doesn't like beards. Hence my post previous to this one that asked about being attractive to her vs. being attractive in general. Pay att…
/r/askMRP29/05/18 05:18 PM
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Well, you're a little late to this party, and maybe you didn't see the subsequent FR either. Did I say she loves it? Nope - she doesn't, and she's made that abundantly clear. The question is, should I give a shit or continue to operate in my own frame? Once I STFU and stopped DEERing or even acknowledging the shit test, sex has gone back up in frequency and quality. Still haven't shaved and things are filling in nicely. Sure I could shave again and sex would go up tonight, and maybe for a couple…
/r/askMRP29/05/18 03:12 PM
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indeed. Trolling and dank memes are exempt from STFU
/r/askMRP23/05/18 07:54 PM
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I get it. Love arguing. I have all kinds of brilliant political theories and an understanding of world and American politics that makes me more informed than 99% of my social group. Guess what I realized? No one gives a fuck. u/SteelToeShitKicker is absolutely right. The only way to preach is by living it. Your words, without your frame, do nothing. People will come to you, including your wife, for your opinions when your frame and actions dictates you are someone worth seeking advice from. I us…
/r/askMRP23/05/18 06:37 PM
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She never wanted me to grow a beard, "It's scratchy, I don't like 'em. If you want to kiss me you won't have a beard" etc, etc. About 4 months ago, I decided I looked good in a beard, wanted one, and now have one. But I digress... You mean you didn't write at least 3 posts about this event and the followup shit tests on askMRP ? Son I am disappoint... :) Honestly, great FR. Similarities with my situation, but you've clearly been at it about a year more than I have. Encouraging to someone who fou…
/r/askMRP23/05/18 03:36 PM
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Good post and good question on the covert contract. Something I have been spinning around as well. Essentially you are bringing your love in line with hers, i.e. conditional. Your love has a price tag as well. You will no longer be taken for granted. Was reading in the hierarchy of love post about the difference between a woman's love for their children and for their mate. -Unconditional love is only for the kids. In days past young men were removed from their mothers, given a rite of passage (a…
/r/askMRP22/05/18 05:54 PM
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You know when I got here I thought everyone was brutal too. Thought I had to show my teeth when confronted or be stepped on. Do you know why that was? Beta fuck ego. Like a chihuahua acting tough to stare down the other dogs. Didn’t work for shit but hey. Then when I decided to kill my ego and actually learn everything I can here two things happened: I unlocked more of the Alpha me as I put in the work and started to develop frame -alpha me has fun shit talking in the locker room. Beta me hides …
/r/askMRP18/05/18 09:44 PM
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Look I get that my lifts are still shit and I don't weigh enough at 5' 11" to be impressive yet. But I am lifting more now than I ever have been able to, and still seeing strength gains and body recomposition despite no change in body weight yet. (aside from dropping 14 pounds of water weight and fat when I first started) Wife told me this morning that I am looking really good while touching my chest. Of course then she threw in the expected shit test "from the neck down anyway". I laughed, grab…
/r/askMRP18/05/18 05:35 PM
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there is no spoon
/r/askMRP18/05/18 04:36 PM
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oh no... no illusion here, though my eyes still hurt from never having used them before... I'm keeping them open.
/r/askMRP18/05/18 02:50 PM
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But also a great sub. MAGA
/r/askMRP18/05/18 04:53 AM
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And I’m still enough of a newb to be legit surprised every time it does. Slowly getting better.
/r/askMRP18/05/18 01:32 AM
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Yes Thanks for the reality check. Was doing the math and then thinking no way I get to those numbers without gaining serious weight, and then of course the numbers go up. I’m not a natural athlete by any means. Have to gut it out for every ounce. Only saving grace is I am thin instead of a fatass. I would totally enhance if I can find a way. I’m not too lazy to put in the work, But there are some results I will never see natty. I’m built awesome if it was the 1940’s. Look just like my grandpas w…
/r/askMRP18/05/18 01:21 AM
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Hell yes I did. Twirled the mustache too like a vaudeville melodrama villain tying her to the railroad tracks.
/r/askMRP17/05/18 09:12 PM
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Thank you. Most I have ever been able to bulk to was a decade ago and that was on TRT... eating like crazy etc. Could never break 200 pounds. Stalled out at 194. Guess my only holdback is wanting to be as attractive as possible so I can work the rest of my dread and MRP. Figured the best way to do that would be to not ever become a 20% bodyfat fag again. 3 years to get to where I can cut down and see my abs seems like a long time to wait especially currently at 40 years old. I know this is a ham…
/r/askMRP17/05/18 08:57 PM
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good analogy. thank you.
/r/MarriedRedPill17/05/18 08:19 PM
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I do what I can. "beard-gate" nice.
/r/askMRP17/05/18 08:12 PM
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Been on stronglifts 5x5 so far with a few setbacks, one was a back injury that luckily wasn't serious but dropped me back down. I also have a damaged hand and titanium plate in my right wrist that prevents it from bending and puts a lot of stress on my thumb joint when doing BP and OP, 200 pounds might be a hard limit for that joint. I think its time to switch it up as well as figure out my nutrition better. Been eating high fat high protein and dropped from 23% body fat to 15% (dexa scan) Figur…
/r/askMRP17/05/18 07:35 PM
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Yep. Took this to heart right away. Have a ping pong tournament date scheduled for our basement Saturday night. Trash talk has been light but full of double entendre
/r/askMRP17/05/18 07:07 PM
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Thanks for the tip grandpa. ;)
/r/askMRP17/05/18 06:58 PM
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Yeah... I'm slow on the uptake I guess. :)
/r/askMRP17/05/18 06:50 PM
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Only if by that you mean she looks like Famke Janssen and can do that leg thing like in Goldeneye... Thanks for the laugh.
/r/askMRP17/05/18 06:38 PM
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Well written and forced me to look at concepts from a different angle. Been playing WAY too many finite games in my life. Fuck that shit.
/r/MarriedRedPill17/05/18 06:35 PM
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Yep - and thank you... I realized I am and have been a Finite Player in a lot of areas of my life for a long time. Too black and white, too invested in the trivia, too serious. Time for a shift. I too have felt like I was done WAY too prematurely a couple of times. Sex increase and I was leading.. no need to improve right? WRONG. Every win makes the game harder. That's life. Never done.
/r/askMRP17/05/18 06:28 PM
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No but your wife can if you think that will help. Ladies only. Of course she might try to go home with me once she's seen it in person. At your own risk. Is your game strong enough? ;)
/r/askMRP17/05/18 06:05 PM
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Great reminder and mindset. Angry beta me would let the serotonin of getting laid make him stupid and if I hadn't shaved to get laid (which I used to do) I would have caved and done extra choreplay afterward too. Yes still headed to the gym, haven't missed a workout (except one for a back injury before I discovered the mind/body connection book thanks to a post here) - since I started in November. It started being about me and how I feel rather than a covert contract to get sex in January or Feb…
/r/askMRP17/05/18 05:40 PM
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And totally agree on the AM thing. Sometimes it works because I can be naturally cocky/funny, but she is super witty and it can backfire into another shit test. If I TRY to do AM I fail every time. Just like the kid who tries to hard. STFU has worked better in one day than 2 weeks of trying too hard for AM.
/r/askMRP17/05/18 05:19 PM
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🤣
/r/askMRP17/05/18 04:39 PM
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I know my lifts are nothing to brag about. No excuses just laying out where I am. Total skinny newb. Like you say. A couple of years of discipline. Haven’t had that yet.
/r/askMRP17/05/18 04:33 PM
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Yep that was my takeaway. Guess I didn’t verbalize it well enough. Thanks for clarifying.
/r/askMRP17/05/18 04:31 PM
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Sex is always about power. 101 level stuff
/r/askMRP17/05/18 04:16 PM
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Good reminder.
/r/askMRP17/05/18 04:15 PM
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Not special at all. Really not expecting anything different than what I am learning. Why would I be different?
/r/askMRP17/05/18 04:08 PM
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Thanks again for your honest kick in the ass. I’ll check out https://www.reddit.com/r/RPChristians again but think I might prefer to sit at the adult’s table here and gain the most I can. I am grown up enough to apply my own morality without moralizing and getting offended. I don’t think I can go wrong by assuming you are completely right about her. It’s the safest route. If she isn’t as bad as all that (not saying she isn’t.) I still win.
/r/askMRP17/05/18 03:57 PM
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Harbor no illusions about the permanency of anything. More hopeful that the sex was a result of passing the shit test today than my victim puke yesterday.
/r/askMRP17/05/18 03:45 PM
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LOL Did I mention I have a beard? It’s glorious. You should see it
/r/askMRP17/05/18 03:31 PM
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So much good advice in this post. I really appreciate it. Have to re read it all a few times and boil it down. I appreciate the support I don’t think I did everything wrong for MY SITUATION and appreciate you understanding the the perspective and nuanced context. I will post a follow up FR in OP. That said I did go Rambo and fuck up a number of things here and will own them. I’m here to learn and swap notes. Thanks for your perspective. My religious beliefs don’t belong to her and while my perso…
/r/askMRP17/05/18 02:38 PM
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Agreed
/r/askMRP17/05/18 02:33 PM
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Good advice. Will get in it today. No more procrastination.
/r/askMRP17/05/18 02:33 PM
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Yep. Got many compliments from strangers and lesser acquaintances last time I grew it. She of course had her hypergamous sisterhood close ranks to all give me shit about it. I wasn’t nearly as attractive then and a blue pull beta to boot. Looking forward to this go around. Already getting different IOI or noticing them more at the gym etc.
/r/askMRP17/05/18 02:31 PM
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Yep. Got the beard balm and argan oil already on my sink -had it from last time it grew. Already using it though it makes little difference when it is so short and thin. Honestly those pics I used weren’t the best just what I had in my phone. The one with the hat was during a day at the amusement/water park and the other was right before my first trim. It looks ragged now because it takes time especially for my cheeks to fill in. But when it is in and well trimmed and oiled it actually looks rea…
/r/askMRP17/05/18 04:39 AM
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👍🏼
/r/askMRP17/05/18 03:40 AM
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Wow tons of good in this post. Thanks for helping me see what I did right, and thanks for giving me perspective on what I did wrong. I definitely talk too much. Most of all thanks for helping me start to kill the boogeyman of the main event. I’ve looked at it as some apocalyptic thing that I had to be armed for. Now I see that is not the case. If I’ve become enough of my alpha self to get to the main event I should be able to handle the main event. So concentrate on sidebar, lift, stfu and becom…
/r/askMRP17/05/18 01:18 AM
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Can’t disagree with any of this. Thanks.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 11:58 PM
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Great points. I realize I have been a validation seeking punk more concerned with being right and knowing the trivia answers than doing the hard work. That has to change.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 11:55 PM
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cross post from my thread because now I'm really thinking I need to get back at TRT. Leaned out, seen newb gains and am stalling... can't gain lean weight. ...Yeah I need to get back on the Test wagon. Had low T a decade ago at 30 when I was a depressed skinnyfat beta fuck. Had doctor after doctor who didn't get it, was terrified to prescribe it to me and treated me like a criminal. Chased it with lots of time, emotion and dollars trying to get help. The more research I did the more I was treate…
/r/askMRP16/05/18 11:15 PM
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great article. Read it way too early in my journey to internalize it. Makes much more sense now.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 10:46 PM
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fuck you're right of course. Didn't even realize I gave a version of fuck me or fuck you. I have been way too Rambo.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 10:32 PM
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Yeah I need to get back on the Test wagon. Had low T a decade ago at 30 when I was a depressed skinnyfat beta fuck. Had doctor after doctor who didn't get it, was terrified to prescribe it to me and treated me like a criminal. Chased it with lots of time, emotion and dollars trying to get help. The more research I did the more I was treated like a drug seeker. Despite the fact that I was and am a skinny bastard by nature, I was accused of being a roid head. Estradiol skyrocketed, grew fat and ti…
/r/askMRP16/05/18 10:09 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
/r/askMRP16/05/18 09:55 PM
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Also, to clarify, did NOT give her cuddles anyway. I kept my back turned and went to sleep. Was exhausted. She returned to her side of the bed.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 09:46 PM
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thanks
/r/askMRP16/05/18 09:39 PM
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Yes. those were both pre-professional trim. let me see if I can find a cleaner picture. and yes, right now, mid growth it is even harder to manage.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 09:35 PM
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I get that, hence my previous post about "be attractive don't be unattractive" vs. growing the beard I want. How much to tailor my attractiveness to her preferences etc. Still unsure on the answer hence the continued inability to pass shit tests apparently.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 09:32 PM
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I agree. Though never read a single talk that didn't leave it an out for hypergamy on the pedestal, and it almost never gets emphasized. But great points on the kids etc. then again... acta, non verba.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 09:28 PM
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https://imgur.com/Sl1ovze https://imgur.com/BIJlCPz https://imgur.com/0gNd6pf Obviously thin one is current. Taken just now. Almost 3 weeks in. Two thicker pictures are last year taken at about 3 months growth. Takes a little but I think it turns out pretty good. I prefer the way other people react to me, men and women (aside from the wife) and I like the look of it and the feel. Insecure? probably. remember last time I grew it I was full swing beta puke. Experience may be different this time. S…
/r/askMRP16/05/18 09:22 PM
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yes thank you
/r/askMRP16/05/18 09:19 PM
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Done = will do better at STFU rather than trying to pass a test. Good advice. not shaving.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 09:17 PM
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obligation aside. The Mormon church does a great job of promoting the commitment, and very little to no promotion of wife's duties when it comes to sex. Regardless of the truth there. I know I can't rely on the God argument even though its true. Logic isn't going to work in my favor, AWALT. Time to stop responding to the religious argument altogether. I can live my personal religion without her defining it for me. Thank you. I'll get this.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 09:08 PM
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Thanks. I did need it spelled out. Had trouble overlaying the theory and principles onto my own experience. Too close to it and still give too many fucks. Appreciate it.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 09:04 PM
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Definitely lacking in fun the last 2 weeks, I won't make excuses. Just lacking. I need to stop being a pissed off autistic beta and plan some shit.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 09:01 PM
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How did i miss that post? Brilliant.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 08:59 PM
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Good points all. Will re-examine holes in my leadership. No doubt there are many.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 08:59 PM
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Thank you for the reminder. Anger is definitely my greatest weakness. Coping mechanism for fear etc. classic NMMNG beta for too long. Catching my breath now.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 08:58 PM
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I LOL. I have absolutely no doubt that if I were to go home and shave tonight we would be fucking in 15 minutes, kids plopped in front of a movie, dinner burning, bedroom door locked. But it would be reward sex for falling back into her frame. Then back to slow trickle beta. I much prefer this push/pull idea. might just try it.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 08:57 PM
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good reminder. Thank you.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 08:54 PM
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Yeah I know I know.- you are simultaneously one of my favorite and least favorite motherfuckers on this site. Congrats.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 08:54 PM
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Done. Thank you.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 06:50 PM
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Thanks. Just what I needed. Off to the gym right now actually. Would not give a fuck about my beard if I could just figure out how to pass that shit test well enough to not be reminded of it 10 times a day.
/r/askMRP16/05/18 06:33 PM
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And women are never asinine right? LOL women always appreciate all of your previous choreplay and weigh it in balance against your current state, right? That’s why you can do everything right all week and rub her feet but say one wrong thing and she won’t get mad at you since you did everything else correctly. Right? Bullshit. Covert contract. I do a ton with my kids on our own. And I appreciate the advice there because I probably can do more. By thinking that dread or credit will weigh in the b…
/r/askMRP14/05/18 10:12 PM
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Thank you. Been having a shitty day questioning my current course of action. Appreciate the advice and encouragement.
/r/askMRP14/05/18 07:35 PM
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Putting in as much work as I can. Is it enough? Guess we’ll see.
/r/askMRP14/05/18 12:25 AM
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See my post below. Wife has physically blocked my departure many times. Damn I was a faggot
/r/askMRP13/05/18 11:21 PM
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Probably because I spent the last 17.5 years as a beta faggot that responded to everything with anger followed by syrupy comfort and apologies. Classic NMMNG profile. Funny enough my instinct has always been to withdraw presence. Pathetic enough is that I let her sabotage that every fucking time by either accusing me of abandoning the kids or cringe physically stopping me. She knows I won’t hit her and risk a domestic so she thinks can get abusive as she likes. She is athletic and strong and I w…
/r/askMRP13/05/18 11:20 PM
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I don’t feel guilty for leaving anymore. It does bother me that she is polarizing the kids against me and painting me as abandoning them, not for my ego but for their perception of their father.
/r/askMRP13/05/18 06:12 PM
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Yep. Actually been one week since starfish quickie. 2 weeks since anything meaningful though. Time to up the dread level for sure. On through 3 and onto 4. Just following the plan.
/r/askMRP13/05/18 06:11 PM
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I’ve put that one off for too long. Will read now.
/r/askMRP13/05/18 06:08 PM
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Kids made her junk in school. Wife bought herself a new purse. I used to get butt hurt when she would hijack her own gifts. I went out last night and bought her a packet of skittles. Wait... she’s not my mom... guess I fucked up by getting her anything.
/r/askMRP13/05/18 03:02 PM
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Ok that makes sense Triadis3 and Simbarlion Thanks for putting it that way. Guess I do give a fuck though it’s weird. I don’t give a fuck like I used to. Meaning the validation of sex itself has lost some of its shine. It’s more about the disrespect and general shittiness it feels like.
/r/askMRP13/05/18 03:43 AM
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Agreed on all points.
/r/askMRP13/05/18 02:45 AM
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Thanks Rian. Needed that perspective. Feels easier to pass the test next time now that I know it comes from her insecurities.
/r/askMRP13/05/18 02:45 AM
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You’re right. Thanks. Off to the gym. Beard is and will continue to be well groomed. Have a barber.
/r/askMRP13/05/18 02:43 AM
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I agree. In better shape now than our entire marriage but a long way to go still. Logical me knows that this is just a shit test in an attempt to keep me in her frame. Beta me would have seen the awesome improved sex we were having up until 2 weeks ago when I started growing and take her at her word. Cave and shave. Nope. You’re right. Keep lifting be attractive. If she doesn’t find me attractive someone will.
/r/askMRP13/05/18 12:18 AM
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Appreciated. I do schedule on our calendar my guys nights and other activities for me. They are listed there well in advance. None are spontaneous. She resents the fact that I hang out with my brothers and some friends the second Friday of every month. If it conflicts with a family activity I own that shit and schedule it elsewhere. It’s all fine until the night that it supposed to happen then the shit tests begin about an hour before I leave. Contrast with her at least once a week wanting to sp…
/r/askMRP12/05/18 11:55 PM
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I too find that behavior repulsive and in no way congruent with Mormon teachings. Super beta using his religion to justify him being a pussy.
/r/askMRP12/05/18 10:44 PM
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OP is right. Mormonism makes great beta plowhorses. Too much emphasis on being the nice guy and overcompensating for our patriarchal image by pedestalizing women. But Mormonism when applied correctly makes self reliant alpha leaders. Some of the toughest asskickers in US history have been Mormons. Guys who see this disconnect get self conflicted like crazy and some end up here. Unfortunately we no longer make men. Needs to change.
/r/askMRP12/05/18 05:34 PM
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I moderate my language around my wife as I do children and polite company. Still swear. Wife hates it but I do. “Fuck” is a bedroom only word for her and only when my DEVI game is solid. She gets pissed if I use it in anger. But when I do it’s worth it.
/r/askMRP12/05/18 05:02 PM
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Also Mormon. active. Swear all the fucking time.
/r/askMRP12/05/18 04:33 PM
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I’m fortunate enough to not have some of the deep problems others have had ether. I’m also fortunate enough that I had just enough of them to get pissed off and find this place. It’s amazing I have what I have given what a drunk captain I’ve been. Glad I found MRP to kick me in the ass and improve ME. All the relationship and even sex is secondary benefits.
/r/askMRP03/05/18 05:16 PM
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No fucking way. Fell for an overt contract early in my MRP. https://www.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/7gnthr/noncovert_contracts_just_contracts_how_to_handle/ I don’t negotiate desire or sex or lingerie. She still doesn’t wear lingerie for me and I no longer give a shit. She'll come around when I improve myself, the rope pulls taught and her desire for me increases. Or she won’t. I suppose in trade for her adding pink streaks to her hair like I like or something but she has already been doing tha…
/r/askMRP03/05/18 04:43 PM
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Actually did read that sidebar but only skimmed it since I started balding in my early 30’s and began shaving my head. (Clippers no guard 3 times/week) Combined with my baby face that always made me look way younger when I had hair, the shaved head looks okay but boring. I’ve always kept a soul patch since shaving just to break up the look of my stupid face. Had a few women tell me I looked like Jason Statham when my beard was growing out last time. I don’t really see it, but I’ll take it.
/r/askMRP03/05/18 04:34 PM
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Agreed. Pass the comfort tests but be prepared for the shift back to shit tests or flat out not pulling her weight. Then up dread withdraw presence and let her fall into line as things stabilize.
/r/askMRP03/05/18 02:18 PM
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Time to be the Oak. Yes it adds stress to your life. Yes it fucking sucks and will wear you out. Guess what captain? It’s your job. Pregnancy and postpartum depression hormones are serious shit. Pregnancy is the one time where they get a pass from most dread activities and withdrawing presence (within reason) especially if it is in the form of comfort tests and not shit testing or being generally shitty all together. This is your opportunity to kick ass on a comfort test. Don’t talk so much like…
/r/askMRP03/05/18 04:55 AM
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Agreed. Negotiating away my self respect has been a strong beta tendency of mine for a long time. Dammit I didn’t use to be like that. Never again.
/r/askMRP03/05/18 04:40 AM
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Ha! Well played.
/r/askMRP02/05/18 11:14 PM
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Wife still won’t wear lingerie so why should I be jumping for the razor? NOTE this is not a covert contract of Lingere=Shave. If offered that deal I will shut her down right away. I no longer negotiate desire.
/r/askMRP02/05/18 10:22 PM
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Difficult. But then again, frame-wise I probably should move forward not caring about her motivation, treat it like a shit test and let her work it out for herself. If she is going to go over a beard, or stop having sex with me, when by all accounts I am more attractive than years past and my beard is stylish and well received... then fuck it she goes... she wouldn’t make it anyway if something that petty ends it.
/r/askMRP02/05/18 10:15 PM
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Yep. I’m a wordy sonofabitch.
/r/askMRP02/05/18 09:38 PM
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Punch in the gut. You’re right. Thanks.
/r/askMRP02/05/18 08:49 PM
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Agreed though I thought the “for now” comment would come off as fake LARP dread given my current frame level. Chose to just STFU and laugh. It worked. I did get laid that night.
/r/askMRP02/05/18 08:44 PM
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Thank you. Last year it was groomed and oiled daily. Looked fucking awesome. Like a Viking danish ancestry showed through. I realize at that time it was just LARPing masculinity but damn it felt good.
/r/askMRP02/05/18 08:43 PM
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Great summary. This is the deeper discussion I am after.
/r/askMRP02/05/18 08:25 PM
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Funny. I have a beard in our wedding pictures. She never saw me without a beard until she blue pill shit tested me into shaving it a few months after we married. My beard at 22 was shit compared to my beard now.
/r/askMRP02/05/18 08:25 PM
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Yes. Yes I was. Blue pill survey monkey to the max a year ago, that craved validation. Working on that. Thanks.
/r/askMRP02/05/18 08:20 PM
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I guess my question stems from reconciling doing whatever the fuck I want and being attractive enough to get laid on the regular. I know red pill doesn’t mean your wife will fuck you, but like many I was attracted to this place by the praxology of getting laid. For now. I choose to pursue that with my wife. Just like wearing nice/trendy clothes. If I was single and I knew that a particular look would increase my game I might pursue that avenue. I’m obviously overthinking this.
/r/askMRP02/05/18 08:18 PM
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Masculinity is a managed state of failure. There is no fucking up only life's bitter feedback. Love this. Constant acceptance and direction of entropy. Break down those muscles and build them bigger.
/r/askMRP02/05/18 02:12 AM
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I know right? I was a fucked up drunk captain for 18 years. Let her run the money and spend every dime on stupid shit. Happy wife happy life right? -fuck me Bullshit ended in December. I took over finances, pulled us out of the hole and started saving. Just too little too late. It’s one of my main priorities as I own my shit. Appreciate the call out.
/r/askMRP21/03/18 03:15 AM
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Getting this now. Once I made it through the comfort test she was testy with the kids, so I decided to treat it like a shit test and withdraw myself and the kids’ attention as well. Took them Out for ice cream cones and to the park. Even took the dog and left her to stew. Sunday the clothes washer died (of course) I just laughed rather than getting mad or freaking out, took it apart diagnosed the problem and orders a new pump. Just installed it today. She has meanwhile been full of teasing disre…
/r/askMRP20/03/18 10:41 PM
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I’ll give this a go as a fairly new guy myself. I don’t think you will have too many replies at all that will say they are completely satisfied with their marriage or life for that matter. One of the things I have had to learn and am still learning is the importance of the journey and process rather than the destination. Breathing a sigh of relief at the destination is a great way to wish your life away and lock yourself into a beta mindset. An alpha can’t relax. Won’t relax. There is shit to do…
/r/askMRP19/03/18 09:05 PM
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I play all my games on hard mode. I spent 40 years fucking myself up as a codependent mommy’s boy and a drunk captain. Minus some true flukes of alpha behavior that allowed me to see a degree of success I have been asleep. I’m finally learning what it takes to be a functional man. That’s all there is. Call it oneitis or whatever but my wife still has good qualities that make her worth keeping for now and as long as she follows as I grow I am happy. All of her bad behavior at this point is my fau…
/r/askMRP17/03/18 06:17 PM
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I see you like to read and don’t have totally shit taste either. Read the books in the side bar. Then read them again. Put down the novels until you do.
/r/MarriedRedPill17/03/18 04:11 AM
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But but but... my noob gainz!!! LOL
/r/askMRP17/03/18 03:08 AM
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Great points for anyone who has lost a job. I’ve been in headhunting for my entire career and couldn’t have written a better post. I especially liked this: Thou shall spend zero time talking to wife or SO about job prospects or interviews. I would be guilty of this particular form of DEERing for sure had you not mentioned it. Thank you. Also your final bit. Best point ever. Not going to say I wish I would have anymore. What’s done is done, but multiple streams of security are number one on the d…
/r/askMRP16/03/18 10:58 PM
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Told the wife. She cried a little. She is worried of course. I’m not. Been a comfort test so far with no shit. Took advice here and approached it calmly and with my plan in place. Holding her in strong arms has helped. She is being shitty with the kids. Taking it out on them a bit. Time to lead.
/r/askMRP16/03/18 10:50 PM
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Good. Fucks up my 5x5 plan but you are absolutely right.
/r/askMRP16/03/18 10:48 PM
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Good point.
/r/askMRP16/03/18 09:32 PM
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Thank you
/r/askMRP16/03/18 09:22 PM
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C’mon no one wants to test and challenge the guy who just lost his job? I can take it. I am fully aware of my financial failures and my only anger is at myself for waiting until I was 40 to sober the fuck up.
/r/askMRP16/03/18 09:21 PM
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Nice. I like it.
/r/askMRP16/03/18 08:55 PM
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Solid advice. Thanks. I asked all of those questions sarcastically in attempt to use them as a pressure flip, and it was more like don’t talk to me unless there is a problem... but you’re right I still asked them and cared too much about her feelz. Thanks.
/r/askMRP02/03/18 10:39 PM
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Recently went though this almost exactly but to a lesser extent as part of a fairly minor shit test from my wife. Just upped the AM and then STFU. She demanded that I apologize for something minor that I said, and meant. She called me smug and cocky and I just made some lame joke about my cock. I blew her off as “cute when she was angry” amplified and pressure flipped when she demanded again. “Why should I apologize? I meant it.” Hamster got spinning. Then I just stfu and ignored rebuffs. Kept u…
/r/askMRP02/03/18 09:53 PM
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😂
/r/askMRP27/02/18 05:11 AM
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You’re cute when you’re retarded.
/r/askMRP26/02/18 08:59 PM
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Yes yes and yes. I would say unsalvageable. I know it would be if I dug that hole for myself. Remember this is your fault. No kids just next her and move on.
/r/askMRP26/02/18 08:19 PM
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That’s what my doc described them as when he prescribed them for my hurt neck and back. I don’t take them recreationally so while I know they are benzos I didn’t describe them as such to avoid confusion.
/r/askMRP26/02/18 08:14 PM
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Lift -check OP. Hurting right now but still lifting. Dread level 3 as I can possibly be with schedule and 4 kids right now. Monthly D&D/poker night, monthly guys nights out with friends, looking at employing the kids in dread by getting at least one of them into Jiu Jitsu with me on a weekly basis. (I would be starting too.). Good stuff. Thank you.
/r/askMRP26/02/18 01:45 AM
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Thanks for your perspective on this. I agree.
/r/askMRP23/02/18 09:33 PM
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I appreciate it. I do. Looking back at my posts I clearly overcompensated and miscommunicated my intentions. I’m not trying to walk in here like I own the place but I am determined to stand up for myself more than when I was an unaware beta pussy. Again did not want to fall into the trap that I’ve witnessed with a few others who just allow themselves to be baited into a dick measuring contest and rolling over. I mistook his question as more broad than just my plan for this (non)event. I clearly …
/r/askMRP23/02/18 02:57 AM
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OI for sure.
/r/askMRP23/02/18 02:12 AM
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Possibly good point I’ll have to examine my feelings about that. At first glance I don’t feel beaten to the punch. More that I worried that this was some sort of trap due to the odd question about no more Mr. nice guy this morning and her hanging out with her divorced friend last night. Which we’ve already established that I am insecure about I have trust issues with women probably due to my mom being a total bitch married to a beta fag dad until she cheated on him. So when this popped up I imme…
/r/askMRP23/02/18 01:33 AM
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Fair enough. Honestly not trying to hold anything back. I am wordy and don’t want to DEER everyone to death. Also as you can see others have pulled the TLDR card.
/r/askMRP23/02/18 01:07 AM
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Very helpful thank you.
/r/askMRP22/02/18 11:43 PM
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You know the written word comes across as a lot harsher than its original intent. Particularly if the reader is expecting a fight. If I had come in here self deprecating and hat in hand I would have been a pussy. I’m not looking for a fight, but I’m not going to just roll over and offer my belly. My ego doesn’t have a thing to do with what strangers on the internet think of me. So if you think you are the one to ego check me that’s fine. I’m not living in your frame. I did get value from his ini…
/r/askMRP22/02/18 11:18 PM
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Point out my dishonesty then please. He asked questions, I answered questions. Anything more would have been DEERing. I answered his questions assuming that they were leading somewhere that would help me interpret this situation. Once it became clear to me that it wasn’t going anywhere I moved on to more useful posts. Yes I am actually pretty thrilled that she sent it, but since I am still learning to recognize shit tests, coupled with the NMMNG question she asked right when we woke up I hoped t…
/r/askMRP22/02/18 11:01 PM
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I’m already seeing a focus shift for me not chasing validation in the bedroom and actually worrying less about sex and more about making a man out of myself. Sex has followed but only as I care less and less. I have a long way to go. Looking forward to it.
/r/askMRP22/02/18 10:36 PM
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grandparentsjustdontunderstand
/r/askMRP22/02/18 10:15 PM
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Good questions. Am gaming and teasing again for the first time in years. Lots of Kino and not sneaking up from behind like a beta anymore. Initiating when I feel like it and not just at bedtime. Sex is getting better. Working out (pissed that I hurt my back but that’s what I get for 20 years in an office chair as a skinny fat fuck wth weak hip flexors) I am one angry son of a bitch by nature. But it was frustrated beta anger and useless. And while I can’t say I am through the anger phase and loo…
/r/askMRP22/02/18 09:29 PM
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I think that is a fair assumption. Bought into the happy wife happy life bullshit and was frustrated that no matter what I did there was always more. Now I know AWALT and can’t appreciate due to evolutionary makeup. I mirrored her moods too much and was a shitty drunk captain. No I am trying to lead more, be fun funny, ignore her moods and watch her actions, pass shit tests etc. I took over all finances after 17+ years of her owning all the money, and am actively looking for opportunities to lea…
/r/askMRP22/02/18 09:13 PM
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Appreciate it. I do still care too much about her feels. Working on this and as soon as I catch myself I disengage. Was more worried that this was a shit test trap that would cause me to lose frame. Yes I know worring about losing frame causes me to lose frame by default.
/r/askMRP22/02/18 09:05 PM
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I don’t get that one either. But don’t want to just sit and DEER. My wife typically ONLY calls me if there is a problem. Text has historically been a different story. In my case our special needs son has pneumonia right now and last time he ended up in the hospital for four days so of course I am going to answer a call. Once it became clear that this was her emotional problem and not worth talking about I ended the call. Ive done really well about only responding to texts that are logistics or f…
/r/askMRP22/02/18 08:58 PM
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Fully admit that I started 20000 feet deep in her frame. I’ve swam toward the daylight, come up for air a handful of times but am still learning how to time the waves that push my head under occasionally. This one threw me since I was already on guard and admittedly far too insecure about the divorcee friendship and then confused by her outright overt communication asking about NMMNG and sending this video. Also, seeing how this girl’s life is a train wreck post divorce and wife is more grateful…
/r/askMRP22/02/18 08:40 PM
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Gotta start somewhere, that’s why I came here to ask. I don’t have a frame that is sufficiently prepared for this left field scenario yet, you are right.
/r/askMRP22/02/18 07:55 PM
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I THINK i get what you are saying but not sure how to implement this. I am giving my wife dick on a more regular basis than ever these days. As for the friend, we were friends with this girl before the divorce and my wife has remained friends with her since. Shoulder to cry on after said friend nexted her beta husband and then slept with a married man. Dangerous as fuck friendship for my wife I know, but not sure how to control it without drying her up by beta pussy mate guarding. My philosophy …
/r/askMRP22/02/18 07:52 PM
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Best (only) actual suggested reply so far. Will use it if I reply at all.
/r/askMRP22/02/18 07:47 PM
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Permission or validation for what exactly? Figured you might have some useful thoughts as to the nature of this interaction with my wife. Responded to your questions again thinking that they were headed somewhere useful for me. (Since this is,you know - Ask MRP) Apparently not. No worries - I’ve got better shit to do.
/r/askMRP22/02/18 07:44 PM
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Hoodie and jeans. Did not doll up, not even to the level she does going out with her married friends. She kept the hoodie on and slept in it last night after she got home. Flexeril 10mg (Cyclobenzaprine)
/r/askMRP22/02/18 07:38 PM
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My plan is strictly about me at this point. Haven’t replied to her text at all yet and don’t know if I will. I text 1 time per 3 of hers to break my overcomminication habit. Plan for me is to kick ass at work, get my back better so I can squat, row and deadlift again ASAP, stick to my diet, lead, be cocky-funny and STFU keep passing tests. All while keening it eyes open for new tests like this that will help me in my mission if I can solve them.
/r/askMRP22/02/18 07:35 PM
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Has been a concern of mine for sure. Doing my best to NGAF and not mateguard while staying vigilant as well. Some of my concern about this new development (question and video) is due to the fact they hung out last night. That’s why I included it in my post.
/r/askMRP22/02/18 07:28 PM
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Was going to DEER on this and explain my actions but not going to explain myself. I have my reasons for 1 and 3 and won’t apologize. As far as she knows I just DNGAF and went to bed. No conversation about my taking my prescribed medication for my hurt back. Already explained that I know that 2 and 4 were fuckups on my part And yes despite my failures to lead in the past she is worth keeping around and getting better. Or she would have been nexted by now
/r/askMRP22/02/18 07:26 PM
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Of course the main answer is probably STFU and continue to own your shit and run your finances. Less threats when she shit tests. As far as your buddies go, it’s clearly not hurting your lifestyle or your family, but are you robbing them of the opportunity to be men and own their own shit? I’ve been helped out by generous people during down times in my life but it always came in the form of an investment in me- sometimes a risky investment but a chance to use what I had been given to better myse…
/r/askMRP21/12/17 05:14 AM
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Thanks for weighing in. It was disrespectful and will be handled MUCH differently in the future. I’m over it. Independent of outcome I am going to keep being awesome. Walking out on her the next night and going to the gym was the best thing I could have done. Not because she has been more respectful and sexual since, but because I took my frame back.
/r/askMRP05/12/17 07:39 PM
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Been a good day. I’m a hobby carpenter and building a desk for my daughter for Christmas which just allowed me to STFU and get out and work as soon as a mild shit test softball was thrown my way. Wife has been very receptive to playful touch etc. came in from working and the kids were fighting about doing their chores. We had places to be. Rather than yell and lose frame or enter my wife’s frame by backing her up I took the wheel and sent her to our room to finish getting ready and got the kids …
/r/askMRP02/12/17 10:37 PM
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After action report. This works. As posted, after a turndown I went to the gym last night, had an energized and killer workout. Got home and she was asleep. I showered and went to bed. She got up for her morning run, kissed me goodbye (never does that) and when she got home we had great sex. Been upping affection and attention since. Keeping the kino going for possible round two tonight. If it doesn’t happen I got some this morning and have other shit to do. Got guns in the war room that need cl…
/r/askMRP02/12/17 04:52 PM
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Dude I just did this. We had a great night with the kids did another Christmas activity on her list but I led the way, took them out to dinner afterward and kept playful and physical with her rather than being mad at the kids and just pissed off at the logistics like I would be if I was in her frame and along for the ride. She brushed off most of my moves but I just laughed and kept at it. Got home got the kids to bed, she tried to fall asleep with one of them and I just said “you don’t have to …
/r/askMRP02/12/17 07:13 AM
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Thanks. It’s gotta be fixed long term. Good sex is a non negotiable part of the life I am building. I’m pissed that I let it go so long and wasted my time. I love her. I’m willing to take time for her to work through this, but I’m not going to be her brother’s second victim.
/r/askMRP01/12/17 06:58 PM
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Somehow missed this one in the excitement. Thank you. Will do.
/r/askMRP01/12/17 06:08 PM
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Nothing. She has adamantly refused therapy or going to counseling together. She was abused by her brother when he was a teenager and she was little. Want to know the part that pisses me off the most? We still have to see the motherfucker and play nice at family functions like shit never happened. I’ve never said a word to him about it. Now as a beta pussy for the last 18years I have tried to be senstitive to her feelings and not stir shit up but every time I see him I am mentally sizing him up f…
/r/askMRP01/12/17 05:30 PM
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Exactly what I did this morning. Glad to know I didn’t completely fuck it up.
/r/askMRP01/12/17 05:23 PM
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I hear you there. Mine falls asleep with them. In the past I have just let her sleep and dutifully cleaned up done dishes, folded clothes, packed lunches etc and then woke her up for bed. Now I just get the shit done that needs to be done right away and go to bed. She can stay with them all night if she wants. Usually she stumbles down eventually. Always has the energy to get up and go running with her best friend at 4:30 in the morning though.
/r/askMRP01/12/17 05:05 PM
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Thanks man. I’m acting like nothing’s wrong and being loving and physical with her. I get a “please don’t” when I touch her now. She is pissed that I didn’t go with them last night and stayed home and got my own shit done. I’m STFU and ignoring it and staying fun and positive especially with the kids. The shitty-er she is, the more energy I have for the gym. As for the falling asleep thing, that was a standard for us. She would put off bedtime until all the chores were done and super tired, half…
/r/askMRP01/12/17 04:11 PM
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Strong point. I am home now in an empty house. Going to get some furniture built in the garage that I am building for my daughter for Christmas. I keep coming back to the chapter on reclaiming your personal power in NMMNG. I ordered WISNIFG just now. It is the one basic text I skipped. Didn’t think I had that problem and I was dead fucking wrong. One thing I forgot to mention. When she called I did give her the option of staying home and taking the kids out for ice cream and playing games. Invit…
/r/askMRP01/12/17 01:40 AM
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Thank you for the perspective. I need to MRP for me and not to make my wife sleep with me. And just to clarify she didn’t just give me starfish. She dead starfished the foreplay. Did nothing. So I gave up. No way was I going to beg her to stay awake or settle.
/r/askMRP30/11/17 11:57 PM
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Okay. I know I am wrong to feel like shit but I feel like shit. I just called her, told her I just didn’t want to go and she lost it. Crying so I couldn’t understand her half the time. Complained that she took the night off work to go to this activity, demanding a reason, tried to tap into my protective instinct telling me she didn’t feel safe downtown, begging, weaponizing the kids (she always does this. Somehow the kids are always on her side so I am outnumbered). She demanded an explanation s…
/r/askMRP30/11/17 11:39 PM
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I just got the text “We are supposed to meet downtown at 6. Im hoping traffic won’t be too bad, but I don’t know going that direction. Do you want me to go by myself?” I’m In a boring work meeting so I can text and type here but can’t pick up the phone and call her for a while.
/r/askMRP30/11/17 10:41 PM
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yes it is speculation based on location of mass increase and that it doesn’t feel like fat. Like I said, all math aside I started eating tons of bacon, salami, high fat salads and that’s about it. Stopped drinking a liter of Mountain Dew every day, started running 3 days a week and lifting as heavy as I can 4 days. Energy levels are high and I am sleeping better.
/r/askMRP30/11/17 10:39 PM
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I don’t have a plan. I simply do not want to go. It’s not butt hurt about last night at this point it’s realizing that by going to things she had planned every night I am living in her frame constantly. This is a (perhaps misguided) attempt to break the cycle. Didn’t get a chance to tell her why and would have fumbled if I had tried DEERing it. She has asked why in texts but I have been busy getting shit done at work. She needs comfort right now. Asked if I was okay and said she is worried. Agai…
/r/askMRP30/11/17 10:28 PM
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So had a brief phone conversation with her about an hour ago. In the spirit of not getting into things over the phone (and never by text) I saved the overt comment about the dishes for later. I did tell her I wasn’t going to go to our family activity tonight (mind numbing looking at lights and herding the kids around in the cold). Told her she could take our son and I would stay with the girls and do something else. She said okay very quietly and then had to go. Been blowing up my phone with tex…
/r/askMRP30/11/17 10:02 PM
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I need to go back to the reading. It resonated and made a ton of sense as I read it but I have failed to put it into any real practice aside from the superficial lift weights and try to pass shit tests and stfu. But I literally have no idea how to actually live for myself and not feel guilty about it. Gotta read WISNIFG I guess. I look at all of the activities on our calendar this month lots of which she has scheduled with the kids, and then my work, church responsibilities, etc. and wonder how …
/r/askMRP30/11/17 08:45 PM
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Cutting out the liter of soda every day was the main thing for me too. I can eat whatever I want and stay at a skinnyfat 185 pounds forever. Drop the crap and it melts off. Gains above 185 are problematic however.
/r/askMRP30/11/17 08:25 PM
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Thanks Rian. I have a lot to learn.
/r/askMRP30/11/17 08:12 PM
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Fuck. You’re right.
/r/askMRP30/11/17 07:34 PM
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Most useful reply so far. Thank you.
/r/askMRP30/11/17 07:17 PM
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Believe what you will on this one kids. No way to offer proof, you’ll just have to take my word for it. Have had virtually no carbs no sugar for a month now. Feel great. High fat high protein, heavy workouts and a lifelong fast metabolism. Historically cant gain weight for shit but losing it is easy for me. Sorry you aren’t the same way. Never said I read it all in a week. Been reading the books and sites for a while. Since late September. Finally decided to do something about it. Started first,…
/r/askMRP30/11/17 07:16 PM
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Thanks. I think I understand. Gotta work harder on frame hard to see my blind spots there.
/r/askMRP30/11/17 05:20 PM
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Thanks and I agree. Not sure exactly how to go about it. She has trust issues with authority figures including therapists and clergy. I do too but fuck it I’ll get over it to get things fixed. I made an appointment for us with a therapist a few years back just before I first got a taste of red pill (but didn’t pursue it correctly) and when I told her where we were going she refused and I ended up paying for an appointment we didn’t keep. If I take her my guess is she will walk right out. Frustra…
/r/MarriedRedPill30/11/17 04:15 PM
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Late to the party this week. Background - 40 yrs old 170 lbs 5’11”. 18%ish body fat. Married 18 years 4 kids. Good week for me. Kept frame at thanksgiving even though it was a hard day for me being the first time not at my grandparents house in 20 years (we are very close and she has cancer). Didn’t let on and did entire dinner on the smoker for wife and kids. Pies included. She likes the stupidity of Black Friday but we didn’t need anything this year. I made the decision to go shooting with fri…
/r/MarriedRedPill29/11/17 07:43 PM
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·Sidebar Reading: read NMMNG 2 years back and didn’t do exercises, thought I could pick and choose, slipped quickly back to Beta. Sex tapered off and found myself doing more covert contracts (doing shores while she slept) and trying to make everything perfect so she “couldn’t say no” - until she did that is. Have now re-read NMMNG and will go through step by step and exercise by exercise. Undecided whether to share it with wife as the book recommends. Also read MMSLP cover to cover, sex god meth…
/r/MarriedRedPill22/11/17 01:35 AM
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New guy here first OYS Background: Married almost 18 years, 4 kids, oldest is 13 with special needs who will need us for the rest of his life. I have been a drunk captain and even a first mate to his captain wife at times. Classic beta male who could fake alpha enough to get married to a woman with higher SMV and build a career in an alpha dominated field, with better than mediocre results. There is an alpha in there. Discovered the red pill 2 years ago and made a half-assed attempt that improve…
/r/MarriedRedPill22/11/17 01:23 AM
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