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Do you ask those women out? What do you do to get it on with them?
/r/seduction31/10/20 02:30 AM
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You shouldn't try to modify somebody else's behavior somehow, that's manipulation.
/r/seduction31/10/20 02:24 AM
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I'm not saying you're wrong but there's nothing in your post that isn't posted every week on this sub, so I don't get where the "you guys got it all wrong" comes from.
/r/seduction21/10/20 03:46 AM
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It isn't worth shit if you are lying.
/r/seduction18/10/20 06:22 AM
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Cool for you, bro.
/r/seduction16/10/20 06:23 PM
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I thought guys who didn't want to be in relationships (he has made this clear) are always looking for a FWB/hook up....like come on, its guaranteed sex, with no relationship strings. It's almost as if we have things in our life other than sex. As per your situation I feel like you're overthinking stuff. If it's fun and you're both clear with your intentions and nobody is catching feelings then just keep it up; if you feel like you're coming off as 'desperate' then you may wanna do something (or …
/r/seduction22/09/20 12:34 AM
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I'd say if you're not interested, don't fake it. Personally however I would have asked if she had any videos of her dancing; if she's really as passionate as she sounds then she'd be excited to share it.
/r/seduction08/09/20 03:21 PM
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I know this gets thrown around like a silver bullet, and I do understand where it comes from (being interested, being a good listener, yadda yadda), but honestly, based on my overall experience women don't seem to be much... excited? To talk about themselves as media (and even reddit) makes them out to be. I don't know if the problem is that most women aren't really very passionate about stuff (this may sound wrong but again, my experience) or that they are rather interested in getting to know s…
/r/seduction08/09/20 03:20 PM
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> She seems interested Does she really? I think you've already answered your own question. Move on, she's a waste of time.
/r/seduction03/09/20 01:44 PM
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You may be really shitty at aiming at the kind of girls you like.
/r/seduction22/08/20 04:12 AM
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An "Epic adventure"? Really? I mean I get the point, you gotta have confidence in that any girl that hangs out with you is going to have a good time (or if she doesn't, her loss), but jeez, I can picture all guys reading this thinking "Oh so I cannot date anybody unless I work as a travelling super-model that does xTreme sports during the weekend!". You don't need to have an "Epic adventure" in mind to ask a girl out.
/r/seduction12/08/20 02:34 PM
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Errr is this for... What, seduction? Entertainment? I'm a huge LOTR fan but I don't see why it's in a seduction list.
/r/seduction03/08/20 05:04 AM
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Being desired by a high status man.
/r/seduction16/07/20 05:16 PM
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Basically don't be needy.
/r/seduction22/06/20 06:40 AM
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'Game' is worth shit if your real you is shit. Somebody with no game but an interesting life and personality will have definitely more meaningful relationships than somebody who can tease and neg but has no goals or ambitions in life.
/r/seduction19/05/20 07:16 PM
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This sub fucking sucks and most of the time I don't remember why am I still subbed; but we have really good articles like this one from time to time. There is absolutely nothing *new* with what you are saying but it's very nicely redacted and concise. Also most articles have good tips mixed up with idiotic, esoteric bullshit; I only see good ideas here. Nice one.
/r/seduction17/05/20 12:12 AM
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> If you have good looks in her eyes and she’s attracted to you, she will think your personality is good. Only if she's a moron. Why would you date somebody like that.
/r/seduction13/05/20 11:00 PM
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Porn was a mistake.
/r/seduction11/05/20 01:29 PM
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I think you're answering yourself.
/r/seduction06/05/20 01:31 AM
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You start the title of the post taking own "importance" from women, and at the end you put them again on a pedestal.
/r/seduction06/04/20 02:51 PM
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... This fucking sub man.
/r/seduction25/03/20 12:33 AM
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Aside from what everybody already said... she may just SUCK at texting. Some girls do not know how to express themselves via texts. You would believe a girl is the most boring, cold thing ever and when you meet her she's a charm. If you really like her, set up a date and gauge her interest on the response to that.
/r/seduction12/03/20 01:32 PM
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How the fuck do you even set up a date without having any idea what kind of person you are going out with.
/r/seduction11/03/20 01:27 PM
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Great content, but this spurs a question in me: is there such thing as an excess of self-improvement?
/r/seduction10/03/20 01:13 PM
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For sex only, maybe.
/r/seduction05/03/20 02:09 AM
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It's easy to interpret those rejections as 'Not yet', rather than 'NO!'.
/r/seduction28/02/20 01:21 PM
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Great read, I've been in a rut lately so I kinda miss having these kind of days.
/r/seduction28/02/20 02:42 AM
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I feel like if I did this, the girl would believe I think her breath stinks and totally kill the mood lol
/r/seduction23/02/20 05:22 PM
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I would have been soooo uninterested by the time she asked me to 'lay down'...
/r/seduction26/11/19 02:20 PM
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Yeah, no.
/r/seduction24/10/19 06:55 PM
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Nah, she was just really interested in making you aware of how young you look. There are people like that, they entire agenda is just approaching strangers and make comments on their looks like that. Smh
/r/seduction29/09/19 10:06 PM
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Bro I just find so funny that you believe the fact she didn't want to continue the sexcapades has anything to do with the fact she asked you to wash your hands before sex. Honestly you shouldn't be troubling yourself with that. You already tried to reach out twice and she's not interested, just take the L and move on.
/r/seduction27/09/19 11:50 PM
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I think this is useful but also very... I don't know, limiting? It gives place to excuses. "I like that girl, but I don't have the look of the kinda guy she would like, so I won't approach yet" (and that yet turns to "never"). Of course looks matter, but balls are more important.
/r/seduction04/09/19 01:35 PM
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... So she approached you.
/r/seduction04/09/19 01:32 PM
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You're never gonna be able to give her what her boyfriend does. Abort and go find a local girl.
/r/seduction15/08/19 12:48 PM
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Is... this a thing?
/r/seduction30/07/19 02:00 PM
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You're waaay too much invested in this girl, go do something instead of worrying about her.
/r/seduction29/07/19 03:19 PM
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Everybody knows this already, the problem is creating abundance when you're at square 1. It's not easy creating abundance mentality when there's simply none in your life, that's where most people fail.
/r/seduction25/07/19 08:57 PM
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You're okay, keep approaching.
/r/seduction19/07/19 03:47 PM
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I honestly don't think this is the sub you want to seek advice for this on.
/r/seduction19/07/19 03:46 PM
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My 2 cents just because I think it's fair people come in with accurate expectations. Lifting and taking better care of my nutrition has been one of the best changes I've ever done to my lifestyle. Prior to this, I also read several studies and articles explaining how lifting and taking care of your body will automatically make you more confident and have more success with women. This was totally not my experience. If you have self-esteem and confidence issues the gym is not the silver bullet, yo…
/r/seduction19/07/19 03:41 PM
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So you think that the fact that she just didn't decide to have sex with you at the end was somehow your fault or your "mistake"? Not everything is always under your control, if you try to analyze it everytime a girl refuses you are going to go mad. Just take the L and move on.
/r/seduction10/07/19 09:13 PM
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Honestly, why do you even care?
/r/seduction10/07/19 07:03 PM
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'Believe what's useful, not what's true' Dunno where I got that from, but it really changed my mindset and how I look at things.
/r/seduction06/07/19 11:56 PM
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End it. Believe me, you both will most likely find a local person who offers what you cannot give each other by being so far away. Save yourselves the guilt, pain and the drama.
/r/seduction03/07/19 07:52 PM
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Bro you got this all wrong. You're trying to shape something so important as your personality just so that some random whore likes you? Really? ​ Build your own personality and then work to find the girls who like it.
/r/seduction24/06/19 01:41 PM
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If you really like this girl then give it another go, but honestly I don't have much patience for all that teasing. Even if you're still gonna see her I'd advise you to start investing somewhere else, I'd next her if she keeps that up after the 3rd date.
/r/seduction02/06/19 03:10 PM
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> sounds great but only if you’re after a girlfriend. If you just want to get laid this advice is a huge waste of time. So you're saying it's good, just not for what you were looking for. That's not the book's fault. > he doesn’t talk about weeding out timewaster chicks. It... does? The whole polarization chapter and the idea behind being upfront with your intentions is to get away from women that only wanna waste your time.
/r/seduction26/05/19 01:41 AM
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Two things: They don't know shit. This sub can be really fucking cringy sometimes, like the post you linked. I would have the same reaction if I did not know more about the sub.
/r/seduction25/05/19 10:32 PM
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Welp man if she doesn't like the real you, you shouldn't be wasting your time with her.
/r/seduction13/05/19 02:37 PM
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Goddamnit what does she need to do for you to make a move? Make a blowjob gesture while looking at you? ​ Seriously.
/r/seduction07/05/19 09:59 PM
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Some of my best nights have been when going solo, it's a lot of fun and the sense of freedom you get is liberating. ​ Have fun.
/r/seduction05/05/19 12:38 AM
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Just ask him, and if it turns out to be true, try setting some distance so you get over her.
/r/seduction26/04/19 08:41 PM
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Damn bro, you have a lot to learn. Do yourself a favor and read "Models" by Mark Manson.
/r/seduction26/04/19 01:49 PM
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... How is that a shit test?
/r/seduction25/04/19 08:14 PM
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> instead of every 3 days like I had before Damn bro your ex was a saint. ​ Cool read, Imma finish it later.
/r/seduction22/04/19 10:02 PM
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Exposure and practice.
/r/seduction20/04/19 04:38 PM
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4 hours a day? Really? Is this for people without jobs and nothing else going on for them?
/r/seduction15/04/19 01:38 PM
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Not all women like the same thing.
/r/seduction12/04/19 11:02 PM
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Dude, read yourself, come on.
/r/seduction09/04/19 01:58 AM
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Err honestly, this always has been a bit of a weird subject to me. What I've come to realize is that... nobody's really your (or anybody's) property. If a dude is gaming a chick and then you approach her, and she ends up leaving with you, that was her decision no? Yes, you could have hit on other girls, but if she's the one you wanted and she, as a grown up adult, took the decision to leave with you instead of the other dude, I really don't think that goes against morality. It's up to you then i…
/r/seduction01/04/19 05:40 PM
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I mean that's cool and all but how do you exactly "give value"?
/r/seduction18/03/19 03:28 PM
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Jeez fucking christ how did you even manage that.
/r/seduction15/03/19 10:54 PM
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I get where you are coming from and I'm not OP, but to be honest it's really hard to meet a girl you actually like and feel comfortable with, so you try to keep her around.
/r/seduction15/03/19 01:29 PM
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Interesting, how much did it take for you to see any change?
/r/seduction15/03/19 01:25 PM
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Leaving your question aside (sorry)... why did you wait 5 months for that?
/r/seduction15/03/19 01:22 PM
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That last part is painful but props to you for being bold. I would say you may lack some social awareness tho.
/r/seduction15/03/19 01:21 PM
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Is it bad if I think this is kinda sociopathic?
/r/seduction13/03/19 03:18 AM
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I completely understand, but as I take it, Models emphasizes targetting "high quality" women, which does not just mean SUPER HOT gurlz. In this case OP only cares about fucking them, so it's more about game than building emotional connections and stuff. Different approachs for different targets, basically.
/r/seduction12/03/19 04:00 PM
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Do elaborate.
/r/seduction12/03/19 03:57 PM
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It's normal. By not giving them your attention you are erasing a part of their identity (they are a hot girl who all guys want to fuck), and they need to know you will actually fuck them so that they can feel good with themselves. Cons: They are not really fucking you, they are fucking their own ego. It's all about them, not you. Pros: Do I really even have to.
/r/seduction12/03/19 02:01 PM
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"You look prettier every time I see you." That's not a friendly comment.
/r/seduction11/03/19 09:15 PM
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Bro, what you say may be true, but that doesn't mean you can't learn. Have you already read a little bit on how make effective conversation? About carrying yourself in a confident manner? Body language? By actually trying you are already doing good, perhaps it's not working for you yet, but if you keep it up and read a bit on how to change your demeanor for the better, you'll start seeing results.
/r/seduction10/03/19 05:28 PM
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Honestly? It can be anything. Heck, it can also not be your fault at all, maybe they are just that boring. If you're doing your part and trying different conversation topics with great body language (body stance and voice tonality) and it just doesn't work, just eject. Sometimes a girl will not be interested and that's it.
/r/seduction10/03/19 05:07 PM
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Personally when a female friend needs "help" I just act like she's with me, as in, I grab her from the hip and pull her away.
/r/seduction10/03/19 02:23 AM
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So... have you ever asked a girl out, dated her and then ask her to be your girlfriend?
/r/seduction02/03/19 03:23 AM
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“So tell me (her name), whats the reason you wake up every morning, what drives you?”. or "What are your passions, do you have any Hobbies?" This is always listed as an example of a good question, but it's actually more complicated like that. Depending on the girl and how comfortable she is with you, this may come off as too personal. Believe, me I am the kinda guy who always aims to skip through small talk and "shallow" conversation but sometimes it is important to build rapport first with comm…
/r/seduction28/02/19 02:23 PM
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As it turns out, life is much more than getting and fucking girls. Shocking I know.
/r/seduction17/02/19 08:51 PM
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Oh boy.
/r/seduction12/02/19 05:42 PM
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Is this even supposed to be weird?
/r/seduction09/02/19 11:08 PM
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I get your point but... how could you " spend countless hours in the gym, ate obnoxiously healthy, learned to play guitar, learned to dance, learned pickup, cleaned up my wardrobe" without developing a sense of self-worth? I mean, I think the point of doing all those things is because you are investing in yourself, and as such it's imposible to do all those things without developing what you call a "sense of importance".
/r/seduction02/02/19 09:09 PM
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Congrats, but you're exhibiting potential future one-itis with this chick, be careful.
/r/seduction23/01/19 04:03 PM
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Pro tip: Don't try to do ALL of these at once (if you're just not used to it), work on one of these at a time, otherwise you'll be checking your behavior every 5 minutes and your awkwardness will show.
/r/seduction03/01/19 04:56 PM
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Same old post.
/r/seduction23/12/18 09:14 PM
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I don't know if I'm an "experienced sedditor", but for me this is all about gaining an skill. When you "master" seduction and see you can confidently meet and date girls you remember you still have bills to pay, a career to pursue, goals, etc; then you treat seduction as something you know you'll be able to do when you need it. I guess some people can also make it a hobby, but I don't really believe that's healthy at all.
/r/seduction18/12/18 04:02 PM
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I kinda get his point but I mean, I feel like he was being eeeeextra douchey with the white knight. He made his point pretty early and then kept going on and on pretty much humillating the guy, was it really necessary?
/r/seduction20/11/18 02:24 AM
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No hating but, isn't this something everybody on this sub should already know? Lately I feel like the same posts get posted here, over and over again, everyday.
/r/seduction15/11/18 03:27 PM
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Bro, chill, there's nothing wrong with you, first of all. You cannot be anxious with women for 22 years and then fix it in 3 months, it's just a process. I'd advise you to read Models by Manson, or at least the chapter called "The pain period", that's what you are going through right now.
/r/seduction08/11/18 01:40 PM
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Damn, this kinda post makes me believe seduction obsession is a thing. All this sounds so cynical.
/r/seduction04/11/18 07:34 PM
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This sounds like cliché, but honestly, you first need to be somebody you can love before thinking about women.
/r/seduction21/10/18 05:36 AM
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Gracias bro.
/r/seduction16/10/18 04:17 PM
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Love The School of Life.
/r/seduction16/10/18 03:03 AM
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I totally get you, I've been there, even if I've had my few couple of 'victories'. I'd say.... Stop trying so hard, take care of other aspects of your life and that will recharge you for when you wanna practice seduction.
/r/seduction12/10/18 02:09 PM
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This is what terrifies me about having a relationship...
/r/seduction27/09/18 03:39 AM
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... I'd still keep seduction outside work.
/r/seduction17/09/18 11:58 PM
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the key takeaway is TO SHOW INTEREST It is that simple, but not really easy. I guess it's because when you show interest and you get shutdown you feel like complete shit. So yeah, it is simple but it's not hard to understand why people are wary of it.
/r/seduction28/08/18 01:31 PM
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Broke my phone and I'm using an older one Textbook woman's lie, come on.
/r/seduction23/08/18 05:34 PM
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Euh... This is kinda like models in the form of a comment
/r/seduction10/08/18 10:15 PM
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I don't "advocate" for it, but honestly I don't see anything wrong with it. As men in the seduction process we are pretty much taught to just "take it" and move on, why can't women do the same?
/r/seduction06/08/18 03:20 PM
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Euhh this is like all the same advice found on this page but condensated in a post.
/r/seduction27/07/18 03:43 AM
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... huh?
/r/seduction24/07/18 09:46 PM
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... Am I weird because I would have been completely turned off by that question? To me you dodged a bullet.
/r/seduction22/07/18 05:49 PM
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Damn, you are me a couple of years back. Just some bullet points: Social networks are too hard, I don't get them either. Girls get LOTS of request each day and they don't have the time/energy to get to know everybody. Don't sweat it. I'm no seduction gurú, I'm still earning my wings, but I've dated around 7-8 girls just this year, and one of them is one of the most amazing women I've ever met. In their eyes I'm cool, sexy, fun, etc... and I still don't get complimented by random girls (that'd be…
/r/seduction22/07/18 05:42 PM
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I do agree I held a grudge and that may have been petty... But honestly I don't see pussy as the ultimate prize in life, if she only wants 'dick not a date' then I'm good passing on her.
/r/seduction16/07/18 02:29 PM
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Good point, but I'd argue you can't "close" all girls in the same night, not all girls are willing to do that the first time they meet a guy, and I didn't feel this one was like that. It does make sense tho that I should show her my value in person if she hasn't had the chance of experiencing it at all (except when I met her), I'll keep that in mind from now on.
/r/seduction15/07/18 05:42 PM
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But why would she invest only then? After rejecting all my previous advances?
/r/seduction15/07/18 05:24 PM
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I did, I shrugged off the fact she never initiated the conversations because they were actually fun. And I did ask her out the same week I got her number.
/r/seduction15/07/18 04:13 PM
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You can just flirt with her casually.
/r/seduction11/07/18 05:54 PM
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When you look at the mirror, do you like who you are? And if not, what don't you like?
/r/seduction10/07/18 04:03 AM
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To me the key to this is that 'not giving a shit' doesn't mean 'not caring at all'. If you were not interested in the girl why the fuck did you approach in the first place? I believe you SHOULD feel the rejection, and feel that it sucks, but just let the feeling pass and continue to have fun.
/r/seduction05/07/18 04:36 PM
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My experience is completely the opposite, I've gotten along with awesome women only after I started being vulnerable with them.
/r/seduction02/07/18 01:14 AM
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I've had those moments as well. I still believe we as men have lots of advantages, but yeah I've had nights were you get a bit tired of having so much expected from you.
/r/seduction30/06/18 10:33 PM
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Well you said it yourself, it turned out you had a professional background that was compatible with hers, you wouldn't have been able to display as much value with, let's say, an art student. And I definitely do not think a woman's TRUE value is on her looks/beauty, and I don't think that's only me. That's actually a bit fucked up.
/r/seduction29/06/18 12:11 AM
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There was a lot of luck into this, and honestly I feel like she rushed to give you her number just because she believed she can leverage you for her professional career, dunno what's so "good" about that.
/r/seduction28/06/18 01:36 PM
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I may sound a bit assholey but if you're the kind of guy that gets to a 330K job and you can't approach any woman there is something off with you.
/r/seduction20/06/18 01:45 AM
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Isn't that a bit unnecessary?
/r/seduction19/06/18 03:36 AM
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I am not needy, I place a higher priority on the perception of myself and not others’ perceptions on me. But... I don’t talk much about myself, which heightens my mystery and disguises my limitations. ?
/r/seduction07/06/18 02:22 PM
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Life is not all about game my dudes.
/r/seduction06/06/18 04:58 PM
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There was absolutely no merit to the guy on this story.
/r/seduction23/05/18 04:01 PM
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But... There's only so many things you can do, what then? I mean I get what you say, and I know that it works, but I have to say it makes the relationship seem like doing anything possible not to be bored, are relationships just that?
/r/seduction04/05/18 04:25 PM
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Why do people here get so sensitive with these posts?
/r/seduction03/04/18 01:27 PM
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To everybody saying this was assault and that he should have called the cops or security... Does that really work? Lol, like... Would they really take his side in this situation? It's your word against hers.
/r/seduction18/03/18 12:25 AM
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Models, by Mark Manson.
/r/seduction27/02/18 12:22 PM
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Gee, I know what you mean by going out with those kind of friends. I have to say I have more game than my "good looking" friends... because they don't even need it. I used to get jealous and salty all the time but I've learned how to keep my cool. Congrats on this.
/r/seduction25/02/18 04:20 PM
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Watch the ego.
/r/seduction23/02/18 03:05 AM
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Impossible to know, but it may be that your plan was too boring (?). You said you already had coffee with her, yet you invited her to that same thing, twice in a row.
/r/seduction20/02/18 08:15 PM
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To be honest? We all see these flags, we KNOW those people aren't that good for us... but we still do it anyways.
/r/seduction05/02/18 01:57 PM
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So I thought, maybe she could stay at my place but I had no idea how to bring this idea into the conversation without sounding needy. ... Why would that sound needy?
/r/seduction28/01/18 01:12 AM
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Same here, I guess the "conquest" is so much fun. I don't even need to have sex with them in order to become uninterested, just once I KNOW I CAN have sex with them I lose interest. It sucks.
/r/seduction27/01/18 03:30 AM
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Awsome diud. That's a bit of a weird opening question tho...
/r/seduction21/01/18 04:05 PM
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Haha holy shit what a pain in the ass, next that one and that's it.
/r/seduction21/01/18 04:56 AM
2

Well, bro, start researching on that shit. Go to the nutricionist and see if they can recommend a diet for you to gain a bit more weight (if thats what you want, of course), then check some resources on how to look good (dressing). Keep in mind you will be doing that for YOURSELF, not for the girls. Girls are a byproduct of you liking yourself. If you think thats too much work... Well, that's the thing, that's the price you have to pay if you really want to become an attractive person.
/r/seduction14/01/18 02:39 PM
8

Then you have work to do. You won't get quality girls if you aren't the person you want to be, or if you aren't at least trying to be that. What don't you like about you (that you can change)?
/r/seduction14/01/18 05:46 AM
9

Do you like yourself?
/r/seduction14/01/18 05:30 AM
3

Dude, are you a couple? No, then what are you talking about?
/r/seduction14/01/18 12:05 AM
18

Dude... what? Come on, you don't owe her anything.
/r/seduction13/01/18 11:43 PM
3

What's so bad about her "thinking" you are mad at her?
/r/seduction13/01/18 05:43 PM
10

Changed my fucking life.
/r/seduction09/01/18 01:30 AM
5

Bro, that's harsh. I know people over here are telling you just to get her out of your life and that's it, and that probably is what you need to do... but I can imagine how hard it can be, specially because you have 2 kids. Believe me man, right now you should not be thinking about "seduction" or asking this stuff on this sub... go see a professional (psychologist, counselor, whatever), you need better help than what you will get here.
/r/seduction04/01/18 02:55 AM
85

... Why do everybody here think all women are up for sex on the first night? I don't see any problem in your story man, she just made the choice of not having sex with you (yet), nothing to cry over.
/r/seduction01/01/18 05:03 PM
2

Bro, you'll be fine. I don't know if it helps but I am doing fairly well now, I've became the kind of guy my friends think of as always having a girl to hang out with. But then process... Was not smooth at all. I've returned back to my place early in the night, crying and all butthurt because I couldn't 'score' in the entire night, feeling jealous of other guys in the venue, I've even posted some pathetic rants on this sub lol. Just keep doing it, I think you're already way ahead by going out an…
/r/seduction01/01/18 04:34 PM
6

Honestly, man, there is nothing you can do about this. Just allow yourself to feel "defeated", and let the feeling pass through you. Just gotta keep on meeting new girls.
/r/seduction31/12/17 06:26 AM
3

Kino, escalate and calibrate.
/r/seduction20/12/17 01:16 AM
6

messaged her back saying "hey that was a joke btw" Ouch. I don't know why are you so mucho into this girl, she said no, move on.
/r/seduction09/12/17 10:58 PM
1

I've been following this rule: if you're struck to find anything to say, don't say anything.
/r/seduction09/12/17 07:23 PM
7

Fail often, and as soon as possible.
/r/seduction06/12/17 12:07 AM
2

Kiss her in other parts first to get her used to the idea of you kissing her (hands, forehead, cheeks). If she reacts positively to those, she'll won't turn down a kiss. My experience tho.
/r/seduction29/11/17 01:13 PM
1

In Mr. Manson's words: They only play games because you let them. Be clear in the fact that you're not interested in that kinda stuff and they should either stop or end things up: win-win for ya.
/r/seduction24/11/17 02:48 PM
21

You can still do it, but only after you get in the flow, I don't think it should be the first thing you do when you arrive. Do it when you are having such a good time that a rejection doesn't ruined your vibe. If you are going solo, I would focus on socializing and having fun first, seduction stuff such as opening groups of girls and isolating them require you to be 100% comfortable with yourself and the environment.
/r/seduction24/11/17 03:03 AM
3

Honestly... I would just re-roll. They seem to be interested but also like to play hard to get. I personally don't have time for that and would just move on.
/r/seduction24/11/17 02:17 AM
36

Hear me on this one, do not think about scoring with the girls, AT ALL. If it's really your first time in such an environment, your priority is to get comfortable with it, and adapt to that kind of energy. In more simple terms, just have some drinks, dance and have a good time.
/r/seduction24/11/17 02:13 AM
24

This is not a good place to get the idea you need, really. Men and women have different... Let's say, roles, in the seduction process. If there is one that would apply to both sexes it's to make sure you love yourself first. Make a good assessment of yourself and determination what you like and what you don't like about you, then become the best you you can be. Dates and romance will come up naturally.
/r/seduction22/11/17 12:02 AM
2

There are other things in life.
/r/seduction19/11/17 06:26 PM
1

Sounds like a good night to me.
/r/seduction19/11/17 06:17 PM
-2

Honestly... I would take care of so many other things before worrying about having sex.
/r/seduction04/11/17 07:22 PM
1

Numbers mean nothing.
/r/seduction03/11/17 03:31 AM
11

Honestly, man, if she loses all her interest because you showed yours, that means you were just a game to her. It's exactly the same as when you lose interest in a girl because you already 'won' her over. Why do we hold women to much more lower standards than us?
/r/seduction27/10/17 11:48 PM
3

Jesus, you have all those things going for ya and are so hurt because of a girl you already had great sex with? The only "wrong" thing she did, I would say, was just leaving you alone like that (she invited you after all), but you seem more upset that she's not giving all of her attention to you.
/r/seduction22/10/17 04:26 PM
0

Well, if that's the type of women that will make you happy, go for it.
/r/seduction22/10/17 03:09 PM
-3

Holy shit.
/r/seduction22/10/17 06:02 AM
3

You really think being obese prevents you from being an amazing man women would die for? There are so many factors into play, dude.
/r/seduction22/10/17 05:34 AM
10

Well, honestly, fuck 'most' women, and no, not in the fun way. Happiness is in the quality of your relationships, not the quantity.
/r/seduction22/10/17 05:17 AM
66

Not OP but... Don't shit where you eat, not worth it.
/r/seduction15/10/17 01:43 PM
1

I think everybody knows this, the problem is not the "what", but the "how".
/r/seduction13/10/17 11:20 PM
1

I must have added that I felt really awkward doing that. As honestly I did not have any desire to dance with some of them. Honesty is above everything.
/r/seduction08/10/17 03:32 PM
1

If you go to any party that has dancing, then you ask every woman to dance. Always. That's just what we do." He usually gave this advice when teaching me how to be a gentleman, and invited me to join the club by saying, "That's just what we do." My dad's idea of a gentleman was a guy that was courteous, funny, charming, and danced with every girl at a party... " Holy shit no, don't do this. Dance with the girls you are interested in or you find attractive only. I once did this to test and got a …
/r/seduction07/10/17 05:40 PM
3

If you're being honest and helpful just to appear attractive, you already lost the game.
/r/seduction06/10/17 11:37 PM
1

Holy shit how do I get a voice like that. Edit: Man, good stuff.
/r/seduction03/10/17 11:54 PM
9

Number 2, yes. I don't know why but I noticed that when I give out my name at the beginning of a conversation the tone 'shifts' a little bit, it becomes too 'formal', its awkward.
/r/seduction01/10/17 10:59 PM
1

I don't think it's necessarily bad, but what's the point of saying such a thing?
/r/seduction28/09/17 12:25 AM
1

Bro, get better first, Jesus.
/r/seduction26/09/17 01:41 AM
12

Yes, it helps. No, you shouldn't leave long-time friends who apparently like you just the way you are. In my opinion you can keep them and still try to make other friendships.
/r/seduction24/09/17 07:43 PM
3

What else can you do? Why do you sound like you gotta 'collect' hobbies? I think you already do a lot of cool stuff, my advice would be to do them 'harder'. You like Poker? Start a Poker club and get to know some random cool people (girls!) while having a beer, for example.
/r/seduction16/09/17 08:41 PM
-5

The best advice for dating I've ever heard is that there is no silver bullet, and this isn't one either.
/r/seduction15/09/17 06:47 PM
1

Yeah, there is no way to know the actual reason why she reacted like that. It's better to just accept it and move on.
/r/seduction03/09/17 09:21 PM
3

To be fair bro, the issue is you "got so damn salty about it lol" I know, and that's why I worded it like that, I shouldn't have. But I still did, and I don't know what's a good way of preventing that. It has happened a couple of times already.
/r/seduction03/09/17 09:19 PM
1

I made sure I didn't startle her, I know I shouldn't open from behind. Also at the time she was by herself, I think she had a group but she was pretty much isolated then.
/r/seduction03/09/17 08:29 PM
2

I would say there was nothing special to that approach, really. I just saw her from afar, thought she was cute and my buddy told me "I wonder where she's from", so I went straight to her with a smile and asked her. I have to say that I enjoy clubs, and have met some awesome girls there. In fact what makes this more ridiculous is that even on nights when I'm having great success (like getting quick rapport with almost every girl I approach), if I get to approach the first girl that rejects me so …
/r/seduction03/09/17 08:09 PM
9

Yeh, my nigthts out took a 180º after adopting that mentality. But can you really get to the point where reactions like that don't affect you? I mean I'm ok if a girl doesn't wanna have fun with me, but when they have no problems ridiculing you in front of everybody like that I can't keep it from getting to me.
/r/seduction03/09/17 07:50 PM
5

That, my friend, was beautiful. As I said in my post, I am mostly OK with rejection, I fucking have to be if I am still going out and approaching after so many failures. It's the unwarranted, unnecesary disrespectful way some girls treat you sometimes. As I said in my post, with a clear head, I understand that had nothing to do with me and she was just being a bitch, but in the moment I cannot just brush off the feeling of being treated like that.
/r/seduction03/09/17 07:46 PM
5

you can now say that at least someone blowing you off will never top that time a german girl threw you halfway across the club for saying hi. Yeah, definitely. When thinking about it I get to the same conclusion as you, I cannot control that reaction and I should just move on. I get it; but in the heat of the moment it is hard to rationalize it. I feel like emotions will gain control in that moment and there's nothing you can do about it.
/r/seduction03/09/17 07:43 PM
4

I really think sex is not something you can systematize like this (is that even a word?). Do you do exactly the same things to every girl? I think it's important to get to know a little bit about the girl in question, enough to have a good guess of what she wants in bed. Also are you actually having fun while you're at that? You sound too focused on her.
/r/seduction03/09/17 05:55 PM
3

"High level women"? The hell is that?
/r/seduction01/09/17 02:53 PM
1

Eh.. Delete her and move on? Why is this even a question? DO. NOT. DEAL. WITH. SHITTY. WOMEN.
/r/seduction27/08/17 03:06 PM
3

What's hard for me is not getting tired, you know? Of being always approaching, being always the one that pushes things forward. To me it always makes me feel like a 'buyer' instead of a seller, and I get a bit annoyed and stressed of doing all the work.
/r/seduction27/08/17 03:03 PM
1

Bro holy shit
/r/seduction27/08/17 02:55 PM
2

So, is she interested? Are people really this dense
/r/seduction27/08/17 02:51 PM
1

Holy shit I'm the same, I really need more answers on this post.
/r/seduction27/08/17 02:44 PM
9

You're putting way too much thought into this. If she's really interested she will be back, you just search for another one.
/r/seduction27/08/17 02:38 PM
4

So how does "finding satisfaction in oneself" work?
/r/seduction21/08/17 05:04 AM
1

Taking action is a skill.
/r/seduction12/08/17 12:52 PM
1

Neverrrr
/r/seduction07/08/17 04:24 AM
1

I usually do something along the lines of "Let me see... Hmmm" and then I blatantly check her out (specially her tits/ass if you can), then conclude with "nop, definitely not gay". Not suitable to every scenario tho.
/r/seduction07/08/17 04:23 AM
10

It's not that I don't like them, just that they are not AS important. Personally I only give compliments when they are 100% genuine and thought on the spot. Trying to give "original" compliments seems needy to me, and from my experience, women can perceive that too. Of course YMMV depending on the kind of girls you try to seduce.
/r/seduction07/08/17 03:48 AM
43

A+. I do not really like that you place so much importance in compliments, but the 4 points you point out are gold.
/r/seduction05/08/17 05:54 PM
2

To me this all can be resumed in 'Be honest with your desires and intentions'.
/r/seduction02/08/17 02:46 AM
1

Every article that starts with telling what "women want" is cancer for me. Fuck whatever women want, what YOU do want is more important.
/r/seduction31/07/17 03:24 AM
1

This was your first interaction with her?
/r/seduction29/07/17 03:55 AM
-1

You're a normal human being, not a creeper looking to bang a milf Hmmmm...
/r/seduction28/07/17 01:11 PM
1

lol wtf you're in highschool diud
/r/seduction23/07/17 07:26 AM
6

I've had nights on which the amount and type of rejections had me crying on my way home (seriously), but also nights on whichever every girl I approached couldn't get enough of me. Like with everything, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
/r/seduction22/07/17 04:20 PM
23

Bro not to rain in your parade but yeah, you're the exotic american guy (with money) they just want to tell their girl friends about.
/r/seduction22/07/17 12:20 AM
1

What did you do wrong? I think nothing. As she said, she was just not interested. Move on, simply as that.
/r/seduction22/07/17 12:10 AM
1

Huge advantage yes. No silver bullet lol.
/r/seduction20/07/17 10:39 PM
4

50 things you can think about and say "hmmm, I should have done this, oh well, next time." But this can also be dangerous. I think that your behavior should adjust to the way you feel about yourself, not to whether you're getting "success" with women or not. I've done this myself, over analyze what I did to get rejected and perform "adjustments" to my behavior in order to "score" that girl in an hypothetical next time. It doesn't work like that, it's actually a quite unhealthy habit.
/r/seduction15/07/17 08:17 PM
23

I know this, I think we all do. In my case I just forget it when I'm actually out and trying to approach. Deep inside me, I am still not capable to jump into the fire and accept failure, rejection, akwardness, etc., even though I know it's the only way to build your own sense of self-worth. There really is no choice.
/r/seduction15/07/17 08:15 PM
4

I agree that seduction as a whole is full of contradiction, but in this case I guess the difference is on the source of such outcome. Strengthening your frame is a process that depends on you, it's 'outcome' is internal. Going out with the sole intention of pulling a girl actually depends in the girl, an external factor you have little control over.
/r/seduction12/07/17 01:51 PM
31

"Believe what's useful, not what's true". Edit: That's from daddy Mark Manson btw.
/r/seduction07/07/17 02:24 AM
1

Awesome video, but you're exaggerating OP.
/r/seduction01/07/17 11:35 PM
4

Hijacking OP but the generic "people love to talk about themselves" seems to good for me to be true, and at least for me it doesn't work. Yes, people "respond" to these questions (even if they are "open-ended") but that doesn't necessarily make them more comfortable with you (or make them like you). At the end what gets them interested is what you tell about yourself.
/r/seduction01/07/17 03:58 PM
1

Accept the apology and get her off your list. If she's interested she will make an effort to get in it.
/r/seduction01/07/17 03:48 PM
1

Probably, yes, but so what?
/r/seduction25/06/17 08:02 PM
3

'Communicate with emotion first If you're getting into a conversation about logic (I did this, then this) (how are you, what restaurant did you go to) STOP. Ask yourself: are we just exchanging information? If so, STOP. You want to move the conversation to a place of emotion. Talk in a way that shows your interested in her. Throw popcorn into her mouth and get yourselves laughing. Goof around. Give her emotion through showing your own emotion. This is much more effective.' Are there more tips to…
/r/seduction18/06/17 04:27 PM
2

I would say... 'Women aren't that important, focus on other stuff and women will come on their own'.
/r/seduction12/06/17 01:40 PM
1

What do you consider "winning"? Spending time, money and energy on the type of women that likes somebody like your friend? Would you really want that?
/r/seduction09/06/17 04:02 AM
1

Congratulations diud, keep it up.
/r/seduction09/06/17 03:11 AM
2

A guy that sacrifices his identity for some girl's approval.
/r/seduction07/06/17 05:29 PM
25

Wrong mentality.
/r/seduction06/06/17 08:23 PM
11

I have to say this sounds just like too much.
/r/seduction06/06/17 01:42 PM
7

I think looking good is important, but going full "I can't wear this 'cause it's out of season" is a bit too much.
/r/seduction31/05/17 02:26 AM
2

Jeeesus Christ diud, lol! That had to suck a lot, I don't mean rejection that much but I've never been told something like that about my race. I don't think I have any advice but honestly? Just hang in there and continue doing it; such harsh rejections will make you stop giving a fuck faster than the rest of us.
/r/seduction28/05/17 02:20 PM
4

I would like to get more in touch with my vulnerability but seriously, how? How do I start? I'm far better now than one year ago but I'm still sooooooooo scared to just go for the girls I'm interested in.
/r/seduction28/05/17 02:58 AM
12

Err, to me all those girl sound like stuck-up bitches; I wouldn't give it too much thought.
/r/seduction25/05/17 02:32 AM
0

So emotional intelligence is bullshit?
/r/seduction21/05/17 03:58 AM
2

Be congruent to your emotions. If you are feeling angry, don't try to act happy. If you start acting contrary to your emotions, you will instantly stop being genuine as a result. If you don't even know what you emotions are, you need to meditate or do yoga or something to actually learn to reflect on how you feel. What about that advice that tells you not to get yourself carried by your emotions and knowing how to control them?
/r/seduction21/05/17 03:24 AM
0

Jesus
/r/seduction18/05/17 12:55 AM
1

'Y Pedro Navaja cayó en la acera mientras reía... ' Can you elaborate on how this relates to Frame?
/r/seduction18/05/17 12:25 AM
2

You didn't seem to address my questions... But I do like that exercise, I'll give it a try, thank you.
/r/seduction15/05/17 12:26 PM
1

Do you like the types of girls that fall for this crap?
/r/seduction15/05/17 04:29 AM
1

Hijacking OP here but, best way to do all of that? Tips?
/r/seduction15/05/17 04:24 AM
1

Actually? Yes, and it's not like I got to fuck several random girls everywhere week, but I got a taste of what I always wanted: a girl that would always be on board whenever I wanted to go out, one night stands, bla bla bla; and honestly? I don't give a shit anymore. Most girls are bland, sex is fun for the 20 mins it lasts; life is just so much more to lore than women's approval.
/r/seduction15/05/17 04:16 AM
1

What about small talk?
/r/seduction15/05/17 04:08 AM
1

I tried to get through the power of Now but couldn't get over the pseudo-scientific almost - religious BS that lies all over it.
/r/seduction15/05/17 03:49 AM
3

I guess I will. It sucks 'cause it's been a long time since I found a girl interesting enough, but hey.
/r/seduction07/05/17 09:17 PM
1

Damn, all right.
/r/seduction07/05/17 07:37 AM
1

Because I want a girlfriend that I can fuck? Who gives a shit about whether I have a girlfriend or not? I'd rather develop my own character and find what fulfills me in life internally. TFW you realize the later is even harder than getting a girlfriend.
/r/seduction26/04/17 12:12 AM
3

That was movie-like, congrats. Nevertheless, holy shit that was too much money (for me) to spend on two random girls I have no idea what they're like.
/r/seduction19/04/17 01:25 PM
2

I like most of this, but I feel like vulnerability is missing in most of it too. When you feel like you want to give something to a girl (a drink, a compliment, attention) but fear you won't get anything in return, so you don't, aren't you giving too many fucks?
/r/seduction13/04/17 04:18 PM
3

I've tried that, but honestly there are some books that I feel like I would just highlight the whole thing, lol.
/r/seduction13/04/17 02:36 PM
3

it's still up to the women to decide how far your interaction will go. Uh, dude, yes? Who the hell made you believe otherwise?
/r/seduction11/04/17 02:46 AM
5

Dude, come on, two girls tell you that they have a boyfriend and you inmediately make it about you? Are you so awesome that they must jump your bones even if they have a boyfriend? If they didn't have a boyfriend and just wanted you to go away, so what? Do YOU like who you are? If so then you'll be fine, just keep on going on and investing in yourself, women will come naturally.
/r/seduction11/04/17 02:33 AM
2

This is true. I think the problem is that, personally, once you experience being the one approached (and by a high quality girl), the feeling is so damn great you want all your interactions to be like that. Doesn't work like that, unfortunately.
/r/seduction03/04/17 03:14 PM
1

It's odd because she never really tried to get in touch outside classes before today, now she's the most responsive woman in the world.
/r/seduction02/04/17 02:54 AM
5

A+ buddy.
/r/seduction27/03/17 01:02 AM
1

We just chat about random shit, I also ask some stuff about her just to get to know her better (her family, passions, etc.). I also tease her from time to time and we laugh often. You know, pretty casual stuff.
/r/seduction26/03/17 04:54 AM
1

I guess I got used to getting a lot of attention from girls I like, but the way this girl doesn't do the same makes me wary of asking her to hang out. Damn, this feel as if I had forgotten everything I've learned in seduction so far haha.
/r/seduction26/03/17 01:25 AM
1

I think that's part of the problem, she's the only girl I find attractive in my class. I've taken some time to talk to other girls but they don't really make me feel anything. How do you maintain an abundance mentality in such a situation?
/r/seduction26/03/17 01:22 AM
1

Live more.
/r/seduction22/03/17 01:49 PM
4

It's pretty much the only "seduction" book I've read several times, and I feel like I don't need any other (may just be me though). What do you find so shocking about the content btw?
/r/seduction22/03/17 01:47 PM
1

Just curious, after 10 years on the "game", what exactly is left for you to learn? Don't you have what you want out of women by this point?
/r/seduction22/03/17 01:29 PM
7

Changed my life, totally recommended. I am in no way perfect now, but I have lost a lot of the anxiety I used to feel around women before, and soon after finishing reading that I started dating 3 women at the same time (no exageration).
/r/seduction22/03/17 01:27 PM
1

Be honest.
/r/seduction20/02/17 04:11 AM
2

Currently there, dark place to be.
/r/seduction20/02/17 04:08 AM
1

Then why the hell are you trying to make a girlfriend out of a woman who doesn’t want to date you? Where’s your self-respect?" I understand your message and agree wholeheartedly. Now, I personally think some girls are worth giving them the benefit of the doubt. You see, women get asked out all the time by boring guys, so in her mind it's definitely more probable that you are one of those. I guess my question is, did you have the chance to show that girl how cool you are? I'd have that first date…
/r/seduction20/02/17 04:05 AM
3

Well that seemed like an awesome night. The push/pull thing you pulled off with the kissing is something I've always done naturally, and I think it's effectiveness lies in the communication that even though you like her and are interested in her sexuality (vulnerability) , you are still in control of your emotions and actions (high value). Of course I don't think I've ever pulled such a hot girl as the one you describe so... Congrats.
/r/seduction20/02/17 03:57 AM
2

I'm in no way an expert but bro, your issue seems to be calibration. Putting your arm around a girl that is not used to your touch will creep her out. Hell, I think you'd also feel pretty uncomfortable if a girl you don't have much contact with suddenly starts hugging you, wouldn't you?
/r/seduction20/02/17 03:48 AM
4

Not OP, and I'm not gonna address the scenario where you are the one in the relationship (complicated stuff, still haven't wrapped my morals around it), but personally I think you should see all women as available until explicitly told otherwise, and I'm not talking about them telling you that they have a boyfriend, but they explicitly rejecting your advances. My personal exception is with married women.
/r/seduction20/02/17 03:33 AM
3

Any tips for just 'saying what you mean and mean what you say'? I kinda like the person who I am but I have problems communicating it to women, words just get stuck in my damn throat.
/r/seduction20/02/17 03:28 AM
1

So you only have female friends? No friends at all?
/r/seduction19/02/17 02:44 PM
5

I guess this is great because you enjoy it but you seriously think guy friends are a 'waste of time'?
/r/seduction18/02/17 04:00 PM
2

This is just too much.
/r/seduction11/02/17 05:12 AM
1

Haha holy shit man that's hilarious. Keep it up!
/r/seduction27/01/17 10:52 PM
2

You're making this way more of a big deal than what it probably is.
/r/seduction27/01/17 04:35 PM
3

Am I the only one who would be completely turned off by something like that? That's like, textbook neediness, do you really like needy women?
/r/seduction19/01/17 02:16 PM
2

Why waste your time, there are girls that know what they want and won't make you go through that bullshit.
/r/seduction15/01/17 02:54 AM
1

Inviting a girl over text is pretty inconvenient (unless you already know she's attracted and it's more likely that she'll accept). While texting, you cannot see her body language, or listen to her tone of voice. These two things are really important to know if she's rejecting you because she really can't go out that day, or if she's accepting out of boredom or pity. Long story short, you miss a LOT of important information over texting.
/r/seduction02/01/17 04:31 PM
1

Move on, but, why are you inviting girls over text? Even a call is better.
/r/seduction02/01/17 01:41 PM
2

As a man, it is really hard to give advice on how you should go about 'seducing' a guy... That's usually not your job. Nevertheless, that bit about you texting him and he not responding and giving lame excuses definitely shows disinterest. If you were a guy going for a girl I would tell you to move on.
/r/seduction31/12/16 07:28 PM
138

It'll probably not affect your life in any way.
/r/seduction25/12/16 05:02 AM
3

What does the second book offer on top of Models?
/r/seduction14/12/16 05:30 AM
2

Thanks man, really appreciate it.
/r/seduction11/12/16 04:24 PM
80

I went to the mall with my sister, and after walking around for a bit, I got tired so I went to the food court to chill for a bit. I found a row of chairs to sit on and I saw this cute HB10 sitting a few chairs away from me. I'm not sure if i'm using that term right cuz she was a perfect 10 in my book but she didn't really have a hot body? All I knew was I found her really attractive. You just realize why you should drop the 'HB' scale. Go binary, either you like her and approach, or you don't. …
/r/seduction11/12/16 06:50 AM
1

Haha I meant this is usually stuff men have to be bothered about, not gals.
/r/seduction11/12/16 05:45 AM
2

Maybe. Something that I wanted to add is that it also depends on giving a reason 'why' you like it so much (to make your compliment more sincere). If she's wearing a boring, brown scarf and you tell her it's awesome, she may politely thank you and not think much of it (she knows it's nothing special, women know their fashion). If instead you tell her that the brown scarf looks good on her because it complements the color of her eyes or her hair (and it is actually true), she will love it. The bo…
/r/seduction10/12/16 11:33 PM
10

Rule of thumb, only give sincere compliments. Women are SO self-aware of their image that they will know when you are just spilling bullshit. This is the difference between a simple 'Thank you' with a slight, polite smile and a 'Thank you!' while blushing and thinking 'I'm so glad he noticed!'.
/r/seduction10/12/16 04:19 PM
4

Dude, your ego is pushing back because you're starting to be honest with yourself. Keep doing it.
/r/seduction10/12/16 12:55 AM
7

Here's the thing: we are all different. Some guys like the 'chase' because it's like a game for them. Once they get them girl, they move on to the next one. Some other guys will definitely be even more interested if you opened up to me in such a friendly manner. The thing is, you don't want to be with the first kind of guys anyway, so don't alter your behavior to fit what they may like. Just be yourself. (it's feels soooooo weird to say these things to a girl lol)
/r/seduction10/12/16 12:53 AM
1

Oops, I already did say it, I don't wanna feel like I'm hiding it. They still want to have a go at me, and I'm everything but clingy with them, which I guess is good. The thing is that we've been close to have sex but I get soooooo nervous las time that my erection went away. I. Don know how to deal with this.
/r/seduction03/12/16 06:32 PM
1

Thanks for all that man. Yeeeah I love partying and meeting new girls at any chance I have... But I always feel like I'm the one that has to put so much effort to get it on with a girl, that even though I do good with them, I feel like it's unfair I have to put soooo much work all the time. Meh, I guess I'm just complaining about stuff that can't be changed, so this is just a rant rather than a search for answers.
/r/seduction27/11/16 01:30 AM
1

Hah I suppose so, but good for you.
/r/seduction27/11/16 01:21 AM
1

I used to be a master of texting in my teenage, but nowadays I can't be bothered by it. Sometimes I have good convos, but one of my personal rules is... Don't say anything if you don't have anything to say. Seriously, don't feel like you need to come up with some weird random topic just to entertain her, you're not a circus monkey. Texting should be natural, if you don't feel comfortable doing it with a girl, but you still like her, then ask her out, perhaps it'll be better in person.
/r/seduction26/11/16 05:32 PM
1

Jesus, that sounds depressing.
/r/seduction24/11/16 07:17 PM
1

I enjoy her friendship, but yeah I also feel 'stuck' in the middle. I need some time to think about what I really want. Thanks for the input.
/r/seduction20/11/16 10:48 PM
1

We spent the day together yesterday, I think it would be too much to see her again today.
/r/seduction20/11/16 10:44 PM
1

I'm still a bit needy, but definitely not a characteristic Nice Guy. I'm thinking of taking a bit of distance from her and then re-approach with a much more aggressive frame.
/r/seduction20/11/16 08:53 PM
2

I know man, but let's be realistic. In my case, she's the best girl I've known in the last two years (of going out almost every weekend). It's impossible not to hesitate when you think it could be a looooooooong time til you know someone similar.
/r/seduction20/11/16 08:15 PM
1

Shit, yeah, I guess I wanted to make a move (I wasn't in love or anything though ).
/r/seduction20/11/16 08:13 PM
2

Err, I would like to say that those aren't the only two kind of girls, some other may really want to be left alone (at the time) and your approach may bother them. You shouldn't care anyways. Approach and just move on if it's obvious she wants to be left alone.
/r/seduction06/11/16 12:05 AM
1

What I am actually afraid of, is being rejected in front of a lot of people. I don't really mind the rejection from that person per se, but I feel like it lowers my status with everybody that sees me being rejected.
/r/seduction01/11/16 12:13 PM
2

I'm no expert but this is a solid article, awesome.
/r/seduction15/10/16 04:18 PM
1

It wasn't like that when I posted this.
/r/seduction11/10/16 01:53 AM
2

Hahaha holy fucking shit this is the best experience ever.
/r/seduction10/10/16 06:58 PM
0

Errr isn't this a verbatim repost?
/r/seduction10/10/16 11:01 AM
2

Thanks for all the input man, great stuff.
/r/seduction09/10/16 05:52 PM
2

I don't hate myself (not anymore) but there are still some stuff in my life I still need to work on. I won't say I'm ashamed of who I am, but I definitely have noticed that when I start to open up, people change the attitude towards me a bit, in a negative fashion. I do agree that it's their problem and I'm just who I am, but there are moments where I'm having a good time and I feel like opening up a bit more may just ruin the moment. Also, I notice that, specifically with women I'm interested i…
/r/seduction09/10/16 05:13 PM
2

Yeah that's what I find difficult, showing myself without shame. I'm a bit 'weird' (in regards to my tastes, way of thinking, etc.), so I'm not compatible with a lot of people. It's hard to show yourself how you really are when it's probable you'll weird people out.
/r/seduction09/10/16 04:35 PM
2

Oh believe me I'm a master of handling rejection. After so many times you just have to laugh them off.
/r/seduction09/10/16 04:26 PM
4

According to Manson, you express vulnerability in three aspects or dimensions of your life (honest living, action and communication). You will find your answers in those chapters.
/r/seduction09/10/16 03:04 PM
7

Yeah, and it's so fucking hard to apply.
/r/seduction09/10/16 01:24 PM
2

Awesome dude, congrats.
/r/seduction06/10/16 12:39 AM
2

If they like Drake as a rap artist ask them things like why and what their favorite song is. To me, on paper, this advice makes sense, but never works for me. It's really weird but everytime I try to "connect" with a girl at a party by asking these questions they a) don't respond or b) kinda respond with an annoyed attitude, like if they were there just to talk casual, random funny things than to be analyzed.
/r/seduction29/09/16 01:00 PM
5

Congrats on the attempt, that's what's it all about. However your lines seemed weird even to me, you sounded like her psychiatrist.
/r/seduction25/09/16 08:31 PM
1

What helped you the most on acting like that?
/r/seduction09/09/16 01:43 PM
2

I wouldn't stand it, such a turn off. But that's just me.
/r/seduction08/09/16 02:01 PM
1

Why the heck isn't this on the sidebar?
/r/seduction08/09/16 01:49 AM
3

... You're a girl right?
/r/seduction05/09/16 01:22 PM
1

Damn, dude, that's the best summary of the top posts I've read. The fun thing is that you didn't say anything I didn't already know, I guess I'm just stuck in that phase of knowing everything yet still be too scared to put it into practice.
/r/seduction03/09/16 02:13 PM
1

Any tips for "faking 'till you make it" right?
/r/seduction02/09/16 01:00 PM
2

Cheap excuse, she's not interested.
/r/seduction28/08/16 11:12 PM
1

I've tried it, honestly I've never felt any gains from it.
/r/seduction26/08/16 06:57 PM
2

In the same situation with the only girl that caught my interest in months. We 'seem' to be having a good time texting and trying to set up a date while she says 'we should definitely do it!!!' only to not receive a text/call from her in the next two weeks. I know I really should just delete that damn number but shiiiit...
/r/seduction22/08/16 04:35 AM
23

"So on Thursday, I finished work and was gonna see my fuckbuddy this evening. She texted me that she likes me too much now to just be fwb and wants something more so I had to finish our little story as I wanted to keep it fun only with her. " Like, this was a great story but whats up with these unnecessary details on FR's? Seems like just showing off.
/r/seduction20/08/16 08:50 PM
2

It may sound weird but, girls don't mean a lot of stuff they say. Women will consider breaking their made-up rules for an attractive enough guy. What I mean is, even if a girl says she won't make up with you on the first date, if you feel like the mood is right, go for the damn kiss. If she rejects you drop it immediately (respect her choice) but you can still try it out.
/r/seduction16/08/16 06:24 PM
1

I'm sorry but this sounds like bullshit, like you were using friendship as an excuse not to go after the woman you want.
/r/seduction16/08/16 02:58 PM
2

Maybe you're a gentleman, and that's not what she wanted at the moment. Also, don't fucking ask for things, Jesus.
/r/seduction16/08/16 02:56 PM
1

Dude out of this seduction stuff, now that you have the great and hard skill of time management, then make it your next goal to learn how to be a bit more flexible with your schedule.
/r/seduction16/08/16 02:54 PM
1

I'm no expert but I'd say yes, just a bit harder (from my perspective) because you can't talk to people that much, so it becomes all about body language and displaying high energy.
/r/seduction16/08/16 02:46 PM
1

... WTF dude you seem like you had an incredibly fun night, what the hell are you complaining about?
/r/seduction16/08/16 02:42 PM
1

Models Models Models.
/r/seduction16/08/16 03:37 AM
1

I am just like you, but I'm working on it. Two things that have worked for me are having other interests than just girls (i.e. get a hobby). You need to become comfortable while being alone. Related to what I just said, go after the things you want. Ask yourself, at the beginning of the day, 'what would I like to do today?'. If the answer is something doable the have the balls to do it. Be it having lunch at that pretty restaurant by the river you've never got the chance to know or going to that…
/r/seduction16/08/16 03:32 AM
1

I've been told that the 'truth is aways shining'. I can personally know when somebody's faking confidence and it's very annoying. I believe a lot of people are the same. Just how much truth is in 'fake it 'til you make it'?
/r/seduction10/08/16 07:09 PM
6

Damn, how can you become brave enough to try this stuff out?
/r/seduction10/08/16 05:48 PM
4

Damn dude at that point you should just learn how to do it yourself, it would definitely be cheaper..
/r/seduction09/08/16 10:23 PM
7

Wait your see the barber every week?
/r/seduction09/08/16 09:35 PM
2

Damn, I've had these nights more than what I'd like to admit, specially the part were your mate gets all the attention without even approaching. It takes me about a copy of weekends to get my confidence back and try again. Don't really have any advice, this just resonated with me.
/r/seduction07/08/16 06:27 PM
1

Also a pretty decent survival horror.
/r/seduction06/08/16 02:42 AM
1

Holy shit did you answer it?
/r/seduction01/08/16 01:30 PM
1

lol
/r/seduction28/07/16 01:44 PM
1

I would totally agree with you but have a lot of "not-so-attractive" male acquaintances that prove me wrong everything we go out. The fuckers...
/r/seduction28/07/16 01:33 PM
2

Dude, he's 16, chill.
/r/seduction28/07/16 01:25 PM
15

"So, you a redditor?"
/r/seduction28/07/16 12:45 PM
1

No patronizing at all. Have you become good at this? How did you practice it?
/r/seduction15/07/16 03:03 PM
3

I understand, but becoming somebody who opens up to everyone with expecting anything in return sounds unhealthy, from an emotional intelligence and psychological point of view.
/r/seduction14/07/16 05:31 PM
4

This is good but how the hell can you keep this up after the first few rejections? I mean, we will inevitably start thinking "why the hell should I always be the first one exposing myself?". This also leads to resentment, at least in my case....
/r/seduction14/07/16 04:37 PM
2

I think what gets me is when I notice the difference between how girls treat me and how they treat other guys they are also knowing for the first time (like my friends). I drunk-posted this cringey-ass thing because I was out with my brother (who's always had a lot of success with women) and we met there two really hot girls. Even though I tried to keep it cool by being the one who approached and tried to carry the conversation their aways shifted back to my brother. I snapped when I invited one…
/r/seduction04/07/16 08:22 PM
1

Gotcha.
/r/seduction03/07/16 10:13 PM
9

I have to say the title is pretty obnoxious, but this is great. Two things: Simplest way to meditate? How in earth you show your 'nervousness' when approaching a girl while being nervous?
/r/seduction03/07/16 03:44 PM
1

Dude... why didn't you just capitalize
/r/seduction13/06/16 12:17 PM
1

Latino here, can confirm, latina girls are extra outgoing, to the point where they feel really don't like shy people (especially men).
/r/seduction12/06/16 09:24 PM
2

I am the same, and the best advice I can give you is "get busy". Seriously, we spent all day long thinking about ourselves because we don't have anything else to do. So get your mind busy, and with productive things if you can. I am talking about hobbies or self-improvement activities like working out.
/r/seduction12/06/16 03:12 PM
1

You should want to be wanted, you should just go after what you want. You cannot control other people's feelings about you, obsessing about that only leads to anxiety and inhibition.
/r/seduction05/06/16 07:37 PM
2

That's a bad idea to have, dude.
/r/seduction05/06/16 05:54 PM
2

It helps if you love to dance and only go with the intention of having fun
/r/seduction05/06/16 03:29 PM
2

Dude, no.
/r/seduction22/05/16 02:38 AM
10

That's me. I have all the knowledge, 0 skills.
/r/seduction21/05/16 04:43 PM
2

Now... What should 'development' consist of? Aside from having a career?
/r/seduction16/05/16 04:42 AM
31

Your truth should be more important than whether she likes you or not.
/r/seduction14/05/16 06:15 PM
9

Agree, even though I'm in a time of my life when I feel like I don't feel passionate about anything, nor I know how I wanna spend my time. I think women are the smallest of my problems....
/r/seduction08/05/16 11:06 PM
1

I was soooooo confused for a moment..
/r/seduction05/05/16 03:07 PM
1

Errr she really kept licking her lips for so long? That would look kinda creepy
/r/seduction30/04/16 05:46 PM
2

I don't get why people on this sub believe a 'yes' or a number is a victory. A lot of girls will give you the number so that you leave them alone and never pick up your calls, some of them agree to see you and then flake.
/r/seduction30/04/16 03:55 PM
1

I can relate to everything you said, brother. I'm on the same situation myself, but here's an advice : Forget about other people and start listening to yourself, your needs and desires. When you take other people too much into consideration, they start to modify your own thoughts about what you want, like etc. For the next couple of days, block every though about the other people oj your life, and do whatever you feel like doing, that way you will star getting to know yourself and your own desir…
/r/seduction23/04/16 01:52 PM
0

Have you thought that maybe girls who are attracted to jerks are girls you wouldn't want to have a relationship with?
/r/seduction23/04/16 02:56 AM
1

I am no expert but, you shouldn't care. If she doesn't like your advance, she will just reject you.
/r/seduction24/03/16 01:03 AM
22

I remember I was the shit on texting and MSN. Engaging into really fun conversations with all sorts of girls... Nowadays I don't know how to text. Women never initiated conversation with me anymore either. Don't know what changed.
/r/seduction26/02/16 01:53 AM
1

Hang out more with (guy) friends.
/r/seduction24/02/16 02:10 AM
1

Oddly enough, I have trouble with the above points. I live in a small town (not USA) and honestly there is not much to do other than clubbing. I have a job too, and I have met some nice people... However, they are the 'low energy' kind of people, don't really go out much and etc. To be honest, I do have a problem with my interests. Lately I feel like I don't enjoy anything other than clubbing, so when I meet a girl I don't have much to add to the table, I honestly feel like I don't have much val…
/r/seduction21/02/16 02:52 PM
1

I would love to go out more but honestly I have nothing to do out there,specially during the day (I love clubbing, only thing I go out for lately).
/r/seduction21/02/16 06:23 AM
20

What the hell was that crap at the end
/r/seduction21/02/16 06:19 AM
3

That sounds good but tomorrow there will be a top post that tells not to show interest and how 'women like what they can't have'.
/r/seduction21/02/16 01:27 AM
1

Bro
/r/seduction16/02/16 01:46 AM
1

Great story man. Tindr hasn't worked for me ever. I get a decent amount of matches but they never reply to my initial contact. Why do girls do that?
/r/seduction10/02/16 01:01 AM
3

That's sum good shit
/r/seduction03/02/16 03:32 PM
1

I get some matches, but most of them do not even reply to my first message. I don't get it.
/r/seduction31/01/16 06:55 PM
120

It was very creepy and uncomfortable, and I couldn't exactly tell why. ... Really, you couldn't tell why?
/r/seduction29/01/16 01:53 AM
3

Define friend.
/r/seduction24/01/16 07:01 PM
1

And why would that girl put her attention into you, unless you're super good looking?
/r/seduction21/01/16 04:14 AM
2

And... How the hell do you approach and play hard to get at the same time?
/r/seduction21/01/16 03:28 AM
2

Cool stuff, thank you!!
/r/seduction04/01/16 07:20 PM
1

I don't know why but questions do not work to me that much. I ask open ended questions and they do answer, however they don't really seem that much interested in talking about themselves (contrary to "the norm"). The problem is that they also don't ask questions back. What the fuck!
/r/seduction04/01/16 04:24 PM
9

It was the opposite for me. I had this "golden age" when my contact list was flooded with awesome women I texted all day long and went on multiple dates. Most of them were the "friends with benefits" kinda thing. I don't know exactly how that happened because texting nowadays seems tedious for me and not many women are into it anymore. I miss texting so much so much!
/r/seduction04/01/16 03:15 PM
2

It means what you make it mean.
/r/seduction13/12/15 12:35 AM
0

It may sound horrible but... in my experience, "I have a boyfriend" is not always a "no".
/r/seduction13/12/15 12:20 AM
2

This is just me, but the "Hey! Long time no talk to you" works for me.
/r/seduction12/12/15 11:34 PM
1

Body Language.
/r/seduction12/12/15 10:48 PM
1

Dude... really?
/r/seduction12/12/15 09:41 PM
1

The "problem" is, after knowing what a woman who takes the initiative is, it is hard to go back to the ones that like to be chased, so you want all your future women to be like that girl that took the initiative. I understand where OP's coming from.
/r/seduction12/12/15 04:45 PM
1

I am an extremely socially akward guy, however when I get rejected I just smile, give her a little wink and walk away... I don't fucking know why but it's better than looking devastated.
/r/seduction12/12/15 02:59 PM
1

That's... a very good way to look at it, never thought about that.
/r/seduction12/12/15 02:31 PM
1

I somewhat think like you... but as ironic as it is, taking "responsibility" is the easy way. Seriously, I do love women who initiate, but do you know how many of those girls have I met in the last 5 years? 3 tops.
/r/seduction12/12/15 02:30 PM
1

It's your choice. I don't think shy girls are bad, but a lot of them are a waste of time and energy.
/r/seduction06/12/15 03:56 PM
2

Can I help you with all that money?
/r/seduction06/12/15 01:10 AM
1

I would stop talking to her inmediatly. But again I am no alpha-male.
/r/seduction06/12/15 01:09 AM
1

I agree 100% on shit-tests. I don't understand why so many guys put up with that. Fuck it.
/r/seduction30/11/15 03:54 AM
2

As has already been said here, go through her profile and find something to bring up to her in your first message. It is hard with women who have absolutely nothing on their profiles or not so many pictures. For example, last "success" I had was with a girl that had a photo of her on some weird fucking make up... but she looked really good on it. I opened with "You look incredible on that picture, you are the first girl I see pulling that of". Of course she's the first girl I see with that kind …
/r/seduction29/11/15 03:58 PM
1

Damn, that hit right home. That sometimes happens to me and it's hard not to feel like your night is ruined. It's very frustrating. I guess the "best" and only way to do is keep trying (because you don't really have any other choice), but I do understand that sometimes it's not about will, there are some times that the rejection physically hurts, so much that you cannot act well the rest of the night. What I mean is: "I know, right?"
/r/seduction15/11/15 03:17 PM
0

You can drink and not feel like shit the next day...
/r/seduction31/10/15 08:50 PM
1

Possibly, but when I read that comment I could not come up with anything to ask about her "meeting her friends". What would you have said?
/r/seduction29/10/15 02:55 AM
2

But isn't that going out of your path just to meet women? (i.e. TRYING to do it?).
/r/seduction29/10/15 02:54 AM
1

I know, that sounded weird. I meant it more like... What if your 'path' makes it difficult to get involved with women? Because that's when people start feeling they're not enough and start looking for approval.
/r/seduction28/10/15 02:52 PM
1

Just curious, what could you possibly ask about her meeting her friends for coffee? Because that doesn't sound interesting at all (it's something we all do)
/r/seduction28/10/15 02:47 PM
1

Good read but, what if your 'path' is being extremely shy and making stuff that make it hard to meet women? (solo stuff like video games, reading, etc.)
/r/seduction28/10/15 02:37 PM
1

Yeah. That sounds like it. Altho I may be interested also in having deeper conversations with women I already "know", but what you said also applies to that, I guess.
/r/seduction14/12/13 12:04 AM
1

I'm talking about girls I've never seen before and I want to get to know. And yeah that's the message I get from blunt answers but! I also know that there are other reasons for girls to do that, so it gets confusing.
/r/seduction13/12/13 11:39 PM
1

I don't think I am, because I've seen some of those and I really try not to make them be like that (conversations, I mean). But everybody is insisting in this idea so I may ask for a witness' opinion, who knows!
/r/seduction13/12/13 11:35 PM
0

I don't think you got what I said.
/r/seduction13/12/13 12:07 AM
1

Thanks for the advice, man. That last part is really clever.
/r/seduction12/12/13 10:47 PM
3

Thanks, very useful info. About your first paragraph, I get what you say but, do girls really approach men when they're interested? I've NEVER seen that happening. I've always asumed that girls won't begin the interaction first, even if they're interested in you. Also, is there a "way" to know when a girl is being "I'm giving you blunt responses because I don't like you talking to me" and when she's "I'm giving you blunt answers because I'm socially akward"?
/r/seduction12/12/13 07:48 PM
6

I see your point but... come on, how are you supossed to make a girl interested when you can't make her talk smoothly for three mins? I don't think you can't be "interesting" within three minutes of conversation without making it unnatural.
/r/seduction12/12/13 07:40 PM
2

Yeah I know what you mean but no I don't make it sound like an interview (I just didn't know how to put it into words). But yeah I guess I should work more on my basic conversation skills. EDIT: Accidentaly pressed save.
/r/seduction12/12/13 07:38 PM
1

Haha that was a poor choice of word, what I meant is "approaching her and start flirting with her at s = 0".
/r/seduction02/12/13 03:35 PM
1

Oops! Funny that nobody noticed earlier.
/r/seduction30/11/13 01:12 AM
3

For me, the contrary is the one that works. Every "thing" I've had with a girl started because I acted friendly with her instead of going all "manly " with her from the beginning.
/r/seduction29/11/13 04:39 AM
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Uh, I ACKNOWLEDGE I have a problem with that. I know many interesting stuff to talk about, or at least I think so. But when I tell them to other people... even I feel like it sounds boring in my words. I'm really bad at words, I don't know how to say the things I think THAT well. Sometimes it even happens to me that I tell something X and nobody cares, then a friend of mine tell the same thing and everybody thinks it's interesting.
/r/seduction26/10/13 07:46 PM
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Hmmm, but isn't what a guy talks about what makes him interesting for most of the time?
/r/seduction26/10/13 07:26 PM
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Tell that to girls. Well, to most girls I know.
/r/seduction26/10/13 06:53 PM
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I've subconsciously been turned into a guy who doesn't speak too much about himself, I rather ask questions about the girl and that's supossed to be a "good thing" in every seduction tip article I've read. But that hasn't worked either.
/r/seduction26/10/13 06:52 PM
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Haha oh god that's happened to me: Me: Hey let's go do <activity> next weekend. She: Yeaah but let's invite everybody too!!!! Like being slapped, hah.
/r/seduction26/10/13 06:43 PM
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Yeah I guess you're right, there's a lot of stuff to do without money. But it's really hard to find a girl who doesn't want to do something money-related tho -.-' But yeah, gotta keep looking out.
/r/seduction26/10/13 05:56 AM
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Yeah but the momment you ask a girl out she assumes you're paying for everything, it's the 'convention' or somethin.
/r/seduction26/10/13 03:29 AM
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Yeah that makes sense. It puts a little more pressure on the actual date part tho, heh.
/r/seduction26/10/13 03:23 AM
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Damn it doesn't help that I feel so UNINTERESTING, I mean, I'm into a lot of stuff, but I always feel like girls aren't interested in the same stuff that I am. And those few times I've felt a girl shares interests with me... she seems putt off by me in some way. Thanks for replying.
/r/seduction26/10/13 03:20 AM
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It's hard for me because I'm really, really self-concious when it comes to girls taking advantage of me, I've had some pretty bad experiences on the matter...
/r/seduction26/10/13 02:43 AM
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Let me reprhase that: "A lot... damn girl's wallets get it so easy."
/r/seduction26/10/13 02:34 AM
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A lot... damn girls get it so easy.
/r/seduction26/10/13 02:29 AM
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I think I made the wrong question, the thing is, I just see every piece of advice about getting confidence and talking to girls setting the goal on "asking the girl out", but that isn't really proof that you're attractive or interesting, right?
/r/seduction26/10/13 02:23 AM
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I'm actually talking about years of experience :/ a lot more than 5 or so girls. I really must be doing something wrong.
/r/seduction19/10/13 01:48 PM
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Thanks for the good read, it's is really an awesome post. I've done exactly what you did, started taking care of myself, embracing the kind of 'person I am', etc. But... I haven't get positive feedback so far, every girl I've tried talking to acts like I was some kind of freak... I don't know, I think I behave 'normally' but they always seem put off by something about me, don't know why. It sucks and makes you feel tired of trying :/
/r/seduction18/10/13 04:36 AM
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