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cardkid1234/r/seduction31/10/19 01:27 AM
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cardkid1234/r/seduction30/03/19 01:31 AM
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Awkwardness in this situation is usually the result of some insecurity regarding your image. The insecurity can be a physical thing, or a mental thing regarding your personality. We think that they notice a flaw about us, which causes us to concentrate on that specific thing about ourselves, instead of the girl. The result is usually doing the exact opposite and embellishing this personality or physical flaw enough to draw attention to it and drive the person away. And this is some sick way whic…
/r/seduction18/05/20 01:27 AM
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Go up on her
/r/seduction12/05/20 04:57 PM
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Maybe by the time this is over, a new product will be on the market that will bridge that pesky “real life” problem.
/r/seduction09/05/20 07:56 AM
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There are different spectrums of casual sex imo, and I have at a time been in all 3. In one scenario, you meet a girl, go out with her one or a couple times, turn out to like her while she doesn’t like you back, and actively pursue her with intermittent casual sex, only for shit to eventually get real and it end badly. Another scenario where she turns out to like you and you don’t feel the same way. In which case it once again turns into casual sex as she actively pursues you. You actively act i…
/r/seduction17/03/20 06:58 AM
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You gotta love yourself first. And if you view yourself in terms of girls and view girl as a difficult situation for you, that’s a losing formula. What do you have going for you right now? Probably stuff that’s a lot more important than some random chick you don’t even know. Who cares what she thinks at the end of the day? There are others and you have your own stuff going on to worry about. You’re going places, and being with you is an opportunity for any girl to come along for the ride. That’s…
/r/seduction23/02/20 07:47 AM
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I started researching body language, and this is very much fixable if you were interested. Most people’s resting facial expression is not exactly resting in regards to the tons of tiny muscles in the face you are still flexing. If you learn how to relax those muscles, you can bring your face to it’s true resting position through habit building. And then if you want to, you can focus on adding a slight smile to it. It will feel odd at first, but it will eventually feel normal and the results and …
/r/seduction23/02/20 07:37 AM
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I think the stigma behind the whole “your first time should be special” thing is way overblown. I also lost mine to some random chick. And then I practiced on a bunch of other random chicks before I finally met a girl I liked and had a relationship with. In my opinion as a guy, your first time is more awkward then it is special. Something you want to get out of the way and move on from when you first figure out what sex is actually like. This way when you finally meet someone special, you can ac…
/r/seduction23/02/20 07:30 AM
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Well I can tell just based on this response that your problem IS in fact your mindset, and although you may believe you have tried different mindsets, your core beliefs have always been the same. It seems to me that you are externalizing the problem, and labeling it “out of your control.” If that is truly your core belief, then you will be incapable of adapting to a different mindset beyond faking it on the surface. I can tell you coming from someone that used to have very low self esteem and ex…
/r/seduction23/02/20 07:15 AM
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Imo from experience, the easiest way to break the touch barrier is when you are talking face to face with her, and naturally place your hand on her outer shoulder as kind of a gesture while talking to her. I see it as the male equivalent of a girl putting her hand on your chest for a second when talking to a guy (which obviously we can’t do lol). I think grabbing her might be awkward, or trying to hold her hand as an initial touch might come off as kind of cheesy. The touch barrier is supposed t…
/r/seduction23/02/20 07:03 AM
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Didn’t really think about it like that. But yeah with all the grade school bullying and the people who would talk down on me, it is nice to have the insight on life of having been a glow up.
/r/seduction06/11/19 08:13 AM
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It seems more like a balancing act now because I feel like I look more now like the people that used to shit on me. And they were some major assholes. And I feel like that might be the preconceived notion I give off. So it’s proving to myself I’m not a creep while proving to them I’m not an asshole. Seems like a lot of mind juggling.
/r/seduction06/11/19 08:08 AM
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Yeah I guess in a way I still do feel that creep vibe. And I just have this feeling that whatever I say once the spotlight is inadvertently on me, they will see right through to that creep. It might take some getting used to (kind of like realizing how much space I actually take up now). But hopefully I’ll be able to eventually settle into this new persona.
/r/seduction06/11/19 08:02 AM
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It’s a sign you should stick to a 1 night stand unless you want to be stuck in a very codependent relationship. People have issues, but they don’t admit them like that unless they are looking for someone to essentially be their savior. Translation: you’re dealing with a women who can’t even help themself.
/r/seduction02/11/19 07:00 AM
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There is a neat little psychological trick that people are unaware of to tell whether or not a girl finds you attractive at a glance. What she does after that (like pretending not to notice you) could have a lot to do with her being shy or uninterested. But if she looks at you and the eyebrows shoot up before she looks away, that’s usually a good sign she’s interested. This is not to be confused with her just making inadvertent eye contact with a quick peak but no real facial expression changes.
/r/seduction02/11/19 06:52 AM
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I did this like a month after breaking up with my girlfriend. Not because I didn’t have other people to go with, but because I didn’t want to overly burden my friends with post breakup talk (I had already done that enough by that point). I figured the best way to avoid that elephant was to go out alone and put myself in a sink or swim situation (worst case I could just leave). But I didn’t sink. I actually ended up having a great time. There were these 2 guys hanging around a table, and I actual…
/r/seduction25/10/19 07:19 PM
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You tell them it was nice to meet them and you hope they have a great rest of the day/night. Then walk away. Always end positive.
/r/seduction24/10/19 05:46 AM
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I feel the dissociations part. It’s definitely been a sort of coping mechanism. But I’ve been doing that in public too. I used to never care about it in public. But now even Public fees like the bar in that regard. There is really never a time where people just stop looking. So I’ve just taken to disassociating there too.
/r/seduction24/10/19 05:06 AM
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I feel this. I’m still working on the “not caring” part. But for some reason when they initiate something and I somehow manage to blow it anyways, it feels even worse lol. I’m working on it slowly but surely. I’m not gonna revert just to stave off the attention. That would be ridiculous. But I feel like I’m in a “I’ve made my bed now learn to sleep in it” kinda situation.
/r/seduction24/10/19 03:06 AM
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I have also actively been ignoring obvious looks. Again another anxiety thing. I have been able to lock eyes with someone as the initiator in the past without a problem. But when they look at me first and I kind of notice in my peripheral it’s a bit more intimidating for some reason. I know that sounds backwards. I can’t really explain it myself. And when the ass slap happened, also something similar a prior time. I was with other guy friends. Obviously it made me extremely anxious as does most …
/r/seduction24/10/19 02:48 AM
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Thanks man I’ll give it a try. I actually only recently learned that the majority of the redness was psychological. I have rosacea and my face is always a little red but nothing too bad. But when I get really anxious it flares up and I guess I just never put 2 and 2 together. Frankly I liked being able to just say my face is always red like that if people were to ask. I guess it’s better than saying, “sorry it’s not usually that red but I’m nervous.” Such an embarrassing tell.
/r/seduction24/10/19 02:15 AM
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I get that which is why I questioned posting it. I know how it would seem like a first world problem in a way in comparison to a bunch of other problems. But a couple of these answers here have actually been somewhat helpful. Also some resources I might check out. I think it was worth the definite eye rolls that a lot of other people probably gave this post.
/r/seduction23/10/19 10:12 PM
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I am happy I lost the weight. I am proud of myself for the work I put in. But it was all for me. It has nothing to do with getting girls or anything like that. It was just how I coped post relationship, and proving to myself I can do something. No one else. But you’re right, I hate the attention. And it likely does have to do with when I was larger. I have always done my best not to stick out (I still do). But now I am getting obvious cues to people that I do stick out to them. That has put me i…
/r/seduction23/10/19 09:43 PM
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I want to adapt, but the problem is I don’t know how to adapt. My body is in a place where my mind isn’t. And I don’t even know where to begin catching up my mind.
/r/seduction23/10/19 09:27 PM
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Good plan. And with all this asking for directions, you’ll also never get lost! So win win!
/r/seduction20/10/19 01:22 AM
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That is completely misguided. Making friends with women in no way makes you a beta. Acting unconfident in your approach and with your actions is what makes a beta. You can go up to a girl and be as polite if you want as long as you’re sure of yourself. It’s being nice from a point of insecurity and not wanting to mess things up that women see right through. It’s also not taking any shit from anyone, men or women. If she gives you some sass (or he), stick up for yourself like you would if anyone …
/r/seduction03/06/19 09:30 PM
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Game if done correctly can be used in many areas of your social life, aside from girls you want to get with or date. You can use effective game to make guy friends or girl friends or be friendly with co-workers or random people you just met. I am not sure what you mean by “trying to seduce” every girl you meet but if that means being overly forward with a one track mind (sex), then you are gaming wrong in general. Although it works sometimes, more often then not leading with good conversation an…
/r/seduction03/06/19 08:01 PM
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I’m exactly opposite. I’m great at night game because I like the idea that girls are expecting to be approached. They aren’t wondering why you are there and if they aren’t a complete bitch will usually give you the time of day if you are suave about it. During day game they aren’t expecting the approach and there is a higher chance of it actually being unwanted than it is as a bar (more likely to have a boyfriend, more likely to be busy, more likely to feel awkward about it etc.).
/r/seduction07/05/19 06:40 PM
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Well I’m definitely the “fun guy” in my group and night game is about being high energy. This is how I am at night at least and it works out for me. Day game though I naturally feel that being so high energy might come off as a bit much for people. That’s where my issue is.
/r/seduction06/05/19 09:37 PM
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I get way to drunk and have wayy too much adhd to start jotting down notes after I get a number lol. If I’m lucky, sometimes I remember to put the place I met them in. But that doesn’t really help when I don’t remember what they look like or who is who. Some of these girls only add their first name too so I can’t even look them up to jog my memory haha. Usually when I feel in the mood, I find a number in my phone I don’t recognize and shot in the dark it with a pretty generic text. I got a date …
/r/seduction02/05/19 08:47 PM
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That’s such a backwards way of thinking. If she’s my friend legitimately then it’s a non-issue. But if sexual encounters happen frequently then I’d understand. But your own inability to not think about sex with her is the reason. Not because of respect for the husband lol. You respect that the husband would probably not like their dinner guest picturing his wife naked.
/r/seduction02/05/19 05:07 AM
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Personally the thought that I fucked her brains out doesn’t really come to mind. If it does than obviously that means you are still in a way sexually attracted lol. Any sexual interest I had in her is gone. I really just like spending time and therefor don’t think about sex around her (at least not sex with her lol). I could easily sit at a kitchen table with her future husband. No discomfort.
/r/seduction02/05/19 04:42 AM
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Alcohol and weed are the only supplements I use lol.
/r/seduction01/05/19 05:41 PM
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If they are all attractive and you would be fine with any of them, then you talk to the group and see which one picks up your conversation the most and eventually turn it into a 1 on 1. As long as you gave the other girls ample chance to talk, they usually get the hint and leave the two of you at it. If you only find one of the girls in the group attractive, then you still approach the group of them. But you have to be quick to make it clear who you really came for. Force the conversation at her…
/r/seduction01/05/19 05:38 PM
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Do people usually know the answer to this question? I can’t even remember who I approached on a night out. Hell, I can’t even remember the faces or names of the girls who’s numbers I get. Most go untexted because they are lost in the limbo of a random name and phone number in my phone. And there they will forever stay lol
/r/seduction01/05/19 05:34 PM
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The reason I approach them less is because it’s not just rejection but bad experiences. Most girls of a certain hotness are straight up bitches. Like I’m not one to generalize but that’s why I don’t approach those diva types so often. I would say based on experience (and I guess not 100 approaches but still a decent amount) they are a mean bitch 9 times out of 10.
/r/seduction01/05/19 01:55 AM
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Not as often as I could have but often enough to notice a drop off in success. I’ve tried by doing the same thing I do when approaching any other girl. I really don’t change things up much. But these lookers think they are special.
/r/seduction01/05/19 01:46 AM
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Not saying I haven’t tried. I have. And for the most part the most attractive girls are in fact much harder to get. My rejections go way up. But I’ve also seen them reject other attractive guys so maybe they just tend to play harder to get.
/r/seduction30/04/19 05:48 PM
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I disagree for the most part. Although there are outliers (not very attractive men with attractive women) it’s mostly hopeful thinking. Usually men and women you see together are around the same level of attractiveness. And that doesn’t necessarily mean people are all superficial. It’s just that it’s normal for people to have standard. You can find someone you like that meets your standards
/r/seduction30/04/19 05:45 PM
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Get theirs. As a last resort you can give her yours if she’s uncomfortable with giving out hers but don’t expect her to actually use it. I’ve only had women ask me out like once or twice.
/r/seduction29/04/19 07:36 PM
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I’ve had better times going to clubs alone than I have going with friends. When you are there with friends there is always a sense of obligation to hang with them (regardless of their willingness to pickup women or socialize). When I go alone I bounce around a bunch of different people (and women) and most are happy to converse. I can essentially talk to whoever I want for as long as I want and have no obligation to anyone else that I came with. It usually ends in a night where I get a lot of nu…
/r/seduction29/04/19 07:33 PM
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Ego isn’t a bad thing in game. Leagues are a myth and if you think you can do better, then you can! My intimidation with girls I feel are dimes is why I didn’t start going for them until I got over the fact that not all girls are so superficial.
/r/seduction25/04/19 07:03 PM
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It’s very true. It may seem a bit odd but what really got me out of my comfort zone was going to clubs by myself with the sole intention of forcing myself to talk to people or risk having a bad time. I have friends that go out with me and invite me out but sometimes there is a specific bar or club that I want to check out that they aren’t going to and my fuck it mentality kicks in and I go by myself. So far the best nights I’ve had were when I’ve gone out alone. I’ve made a couple very close fri…
/r/seduction25/04/19 07:01 PM
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Absolutely. I have better looking guy friends than me wonder how I have had better success each night when we go out (even though we always thought the best looking guy of us would). Don’t get me wrong, the guy was sculpted (no homo) but he never walked up to girls like he knew what he was doing. And it was always so awkward to watch. When you walk you gotta mean it. Head up looking at your target.
/r/seduction11/04/19 05:39 PM
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Haha it happens dude. I was at a club and hit on a girl that was a real bitch about it, told me “ok bye now.” And then I hit on a girl that was actually really nice but the first girl was so bitchy she actually went out of her way to cockblock that interaction too when she spotted me. Some bitches are just cold hearted bitches. It’s fine dude. The nice girls will be around. And girls like her will make a great first ex wife one day too 😂
/r/seduction11/04/19 02:11 AM
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I agree with what many of the people here are saying. There is definitely and difference between being a nice guy and being a good boyfriend. In the end of the day a co-defendant relationship is never healthy and almost never works out. A “nice guy” tends to make himself too readily available and is usually upset when it’s not reciprocated.
/r/seduction10/04/19 10:17 PM
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I don’t remember the initial video I used, but I remember watching this one which had a lot of good information: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W9JqJNmYPY0&t=393s It focuses on walking with confidence which obviously includes physical good posture but also tips on how to exude more confidence by walking with a little swagger.
/r/seduction10/04/19 06:57 PM
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That’s not true at all from the perspective of all guys. I’ve been hit on gay guys and fat girls and a pretty large mix. You can act sexually uninterested while still giving people the time of day. That’s why some of those people I now call my friends. It’s a very shallow way of thinking to just want to walk away when anyone starts talking to you by judging their looks. Don’t judge a book by its cover man. You don’t have to fuck everyone you meet.
/r/seduction04/04/19 06:48 PM
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I had a drunk girl come onto me a couple weeks ago. I gave her my number and she asked me to go home with her. She was a bit drunk so I decided to just send her home in an Uber herself. We did kiss a bit before she went into the Uber and asked me to text her. I did but we haven’t talked much since. It happens. You win some you lose some. But i never regret my decisions.
/r/seduction04/04/19 06:08 PM
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Talk to him and be suggestive. Make a sexual joke or something to him but laugh about it. That will either have him thinking you’re into him or you have a dirty mind. Either one he will likely be interested if he finds you attractive.
/r/seduction04/04/19 06:00 PM
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If she said “no easy hookups” and you suggest a hotel, prepare to be scolded or unmatched immediately.
/r/seduction04/04/19 05:58 PM
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I’m not ok with anyone coming up to me and grinding on me at a club. I’ve told girls who have done that to me that I have a girlfriend. If she grinds on you at a club it probably means she’s done it to a lot of other guys before and you’ll have a higher likelyhood of catching something from her. I like a girl that plays hard to get.
/r/seduction04/04/19 05:56 PM
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A lot of girls actually like a dad bod more than guys with abs and muscles. It’s a more comforting appearance as opposed to a muscular guy having a more protective appearance. I am a muscular guy and have heard that from a lot of women. A lot of social experiments on YouTube also confirm that.
/r/seduction04/04/19 05:53 PM
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Talk to groups of dudes at bars/clubs that are standing around doing nothing. In every group this is some type of ring leader/alpha. Talk to them and show them you know how to have a great time. But low key be a bit of the kids ass to the alpha (he will usually be the one that leads the conversations/conversation changes). As long as you appease him and ask them all if they’d let you chill with them while you’re there (referring the question to him the most), they would probably be willing to le…
/r/seduction03/04/19 10:16 PM
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Some girls like big guys if they come off as a strong protective guy. But that also comes with the connotation that you aren’t needy and you are a hard guy that doesn’t really let just anyone in. If you have that type of outward impression and then change it, you might not have been what they thought you were. That could be either physically or mentally.
/r/seduction03/04/19 05:47 PM
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Black/dark t-shirt and jeans sounds about right. Button down untucked and dark pants with dress shoes for a more professional place. This is all of course assuming you are going to a bar or club. Thats easy to dress for as a guy. ​
/r/seduction02/04/19 02:08 AM
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Think about it like this: When you approach a girl one on one, what is she probably thinking? Probably somewhere along the lines of: "I'm about to get hit on" and whether or not she's interested. But when you're dealing with a group of girls and you are approaching as one guy, your intentions become unclear and they are thinking: "Why did this random dude just come up to us?" So obviously you gotta state your case as soon as you approach. Why did you walk up to them? You can pretty much say what…
/r/seduction02/04/19 12:02 AM
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Ehh keeping a stable is kind of expensive. I’d contact petting zoo party providers and ask them to assist you in this unique request if they have some compact pony or something. Shouldn’t be too expensive.
/r/seduction01/04/19 05:51 PM
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At a nightclub girls usually think they know your intentions when you come up to them so I'd imagine you get rejected more here. But daygame girls usually have no clue what you want until you start making it more clear. To prevent this I always approach girls the same way with a very back off stance and friendly vibe. I introduce myself and don't touch them at all until I am sure they are receptive. Usually this doesn't work when talking to a girl one on one, thats why I usually approach groups …
/r/seduction01/04/19 04:32 PM
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I can come at this from the boyfriend point of view. And I’ve been open about this with my girlfriend in the past (now ex for unrelated reasons, I ended up ending things with her). I have no problem if guys hit on my girlfriend. That’s what pushes me to be the best guy I can be. If I am always the better guy (most confident, alpha, better boyfriend, etc) then she won’t be interested in other guys. If your girls unhappy, she should say something but sometimes she doesn’t. I would rather my girlfr…
/r/seduction01/04/19 04:26 PM
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But picking up a woman is the furthest thing from surgical. lol. Seems like a nice way to convince socially awkward people who overthink things to give them money. Just walk up to a girl, tell her you really like her dress/outfit. Then introduce yourself.
/r/seduction01/04/19 05:29 AM
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That’s how women are. If you have her number/snap definitely reach out to her. Don’t wait for her to reach out to you. She may not be interested anymore but maybe she will be. Never know.
/r/seduction01/04/19 05:23 AM
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Sometimes I flirtatiously stare at girls when I’m walking the room. It lets them know that I’m interested but I got somewhere else to be right now and maybe I’ll be back later. It’s a good little trick to making them a bit more comfortable if you do eventually decide to approach.
/r/seduction01/04/19 05:19 AM
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I don’t. I’m 21 and have a very different approach to older women. I’m honest with them about my age and they think it’s “cute” or they are way too old for me. How do I get them interested? I start acting like a dick. They not longer thing I’m cutesy but am being aggressively forward. This puts them in a position to possibly go for it if they find me attractive because I was the one pushing it not them. They like younger men, they just don’t wanna seem like they were the ones going for it.
/r/seduction01/04/19 05:15 AM
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It is so easy to own a business nowadays though that it really isn’t a problem. I can show people a way to start a business and start earning an income online with like $5 down. Eventually everyone will either own a small business or work for a small business. It will be better for the economy anyways.
/r/seduction31/03/19 09:42 AM
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Sadly its true. Most good looking women nowadays know it because they can tell that many of the women around them have clearly let themselves go. I went out clubbing tonight and there are a LOT of fat girls. However, I always hit on them first because I usually wing man for my friends and I can easily get a fat girl interested in me. They also usually give me the scoop on their friends availability and level of interest for my friends. Then I pass that information along and take the fat one out …
/r/seduction31/03/19 09:23 AM
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The thing a man has that a women constantly has trouble taking over men is authority. Yes there are female manages. Yes there are female CEO's. But that doesn't mean that they are the best authoritative figure for the job. Moreso they are probably the best in a lot of other aspects. So far there has not been a women president and given the results of last election, I think it is further off than most people think. Women will never hold dominance over men which will constantly keep men a desirabl…
/r/seduction31/03/19 09:18 AM
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VR combined with pocket pussy type device that gives a real feel? The tech already exists... I'd give it a couple years lol.
/r/seduction31/03/19 09:13 AM
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But secure resources are harder to come by because there are more professional women competing for jobs with men. Unfortunately the female breadwinner isn't exactly a widely accepted thing right now so it really just makes it harder for men.
/r/seduction31/03/19 09:12 AM
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Tbh, these days I don’t even know. I used to be fat and can tell a clear difference between how I look then and how I look now but I still feel kinda fat lol. Unless I have a 6 pack I’m not gonna think I’m as fit as other people might think I am. But I have been complimented before and have been confident in my approaches. I feel like my looks right now gives me a fighting chance combined with my current social level. But obviously one could always better themselves.
/r/seduction31/03/19 08:57 AM
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Yeah. Why not just keep the conversation going and just keep trying. I LOVE having the opportunity to talk to multiple girls at once because then you have 2 or more people giving you conversational content to respond to and not just 1 which can sometimes lead to silence and uncertainty of what to say next. Don't be afraid of the groups. Girls usually appreciate it when you talk to the whole group regardless of some of them being obviously taken or uninterested. It makes you come off as more genu…
/r/seduction31/03/19 08:46 AM
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I'm gonna be honest with you. RSD sucks. They appeal to a group of people that feel that picking up girls is a science. It really isn't. The more you just try to do it, the more you realize what works for you. What works for you might not be what works for someone else which is why it usually can't be taught like a lecture in a classrooms lol. A better youtuber to watch in my opinion is: ThatWasEpic. He makes fun of youtubers like RSD for the amount of professionalism and effort they put into so…
/r/seduction31/03/19 08:41 AM
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Guys just gotta think with their brains and not their dicks more often. It isn't 1960 anymore. Girls are more intelligent now that they are going to school lol. You're gonna have to put more thought into your conversations.
/r/seduction31/03/19 08:28 AM
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I feel this on multiple levels lol. I worked very hard to physically look the way I do. Most of my family is very large so I don't have the genetics to just eat whatever I want and stay in shape. I do cardio kickboxing 4 days a week and I lift occasionally (I'm cutting right now not bulking). I also just approach girls now with the new confidence in the way I look. I will approach just about anyone. Even girls I'm not interested in. The ones I'm not interested in are usually the biggest stroke t…
/r/seduction31/03/19 08:26 AM
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I used to be a socially awkward high school teenager than dressed poorly, had bad hygiene and didn't take care of himself all that well. It all kind of stemmed from social awkwardness and the idea that if I never tried to seem desirable, no one would be able to reject me because I never tried. It was a very backwards way of thinking and a huge defense mechanism. Once I left high school I finally worked up the courage to change my image. It was something about the idea of being around a whole new…
/r/seduction31/03/19 08:21 AM
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Better do nothing pick up attempt that I got the idea of on youtube: Get 2 drinks for yourself so both your hands are occupied. Act like you are trying to get to someone (or other people to give the other drink to). Spot a cute girl. Say "Excuse me, can you grab the phone in my back pocket?" She will see that both your hands are occupied and a decent girl will oblige and grab your phone for you. Then tell her "Ok, now can you put your number in it?" Very smooth and simple pickup attempt that at …
/r/seduction31/03/19 07:59 AM
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If she's a bitch to you for introducing yourself then be a dick right back lol. Thats usually how I deal with groups of girls. From my experience, 1 is usually super interested, 1 holds the conversation casually and if there is a third they usually ignore you almost completely. Thats what happened to me tonight and I just said "I can tell this one doesn't really want to talk so ill cut her out." She ended up laughing and said I just want to dance haha. Obviously you can't do this every time. Esp…
/r/seduction31/03/19 07:51 AM
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I approached a bunch of stunners tn. I got some of their numbers but not all of them. Some I didn't even ask. I just had a genuine conversation, felt their vibe and then decided if i wanted to continue on or leave. Still got like 7 numbers. Its a numbers game and my being selective actually makes me more desirable to the women who notice me just walk up to people, have a genuine conversation that they are interested in and then leave with no ulterior motive.
/r/seduction31/03/19 07:25 AM
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Closest I’ve come to this was a girl at a party that just grabbed me and started making out with me. Usually I’d avoid this though unless you’re trying to get herpies. Luckily I did not haha.
/r/seduction30/03/19 05:46 PM
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These women are content not getting the cream of the crop when it comes to men either. At least for the most part you don’t see very attractive men dating fat women unless she got fat after the relationship started.
/r/seduction30/03/19 08:01 AM
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Yes the dating pool is horrible right now. Men seriously have to do all they can to stick out and compete for 30% of women while the other 70% of women try to shame us for having a certain physical standard and accept them too. Some men will genuinely want it. Some men will feel forced to accept it.
/r/seduction30/03/19 06:00 AM
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Interesting. I’m thinking about it from more of a societal aspect but I can see your point too from a biochemical aspect. It can definitely be that society has influenced a chemical changes in feelings creating female superiority.
/r/seduction30/03/19 04:26 AM
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Damn... I'm having 2nd thoughts again. Tell me everything will be ok! lol. Idk if I can bring myself to do this.
/r/seduction30/03/19 02:24 AM
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You know what. You’ve convinced me. Pregame or no?
/r/seduction30/03/19 02:07 AM
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Thanks. I probably won't end up doing it tonight because I just haven't mentally prepared myself for all that yet lol. I feel like if I were alone I would have to constantly be on the move because I don't want to stand in one place alone for that long haha. I get the being social part but sometimes I need down time in between talking to people and that usually where having friends there came in clutch. But I feel like i'd have to prepare for a night of being constantly active.
/r/seduction30/03/19 01:52 AM
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I don't think women are becoming more choosy. Men are just becoming less desirable. More social media interactions and less live social interactions are cranking out men who don't know how to properly socialize. The media depicts to women how men should interact and most men just can't crack the code anymore due to lack of practice. This leads to anxieties and depression which makes people suffering prevent themselves from coming across the situation at all. So what makes up for it a little bit?…
/r/seduction30/03/19 01:42 AM
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Definitely get comments from it. Very good smell. I also use Martinique tommybahama as an alternate I really like.
/r/seduction28/03/19 10:30 PM
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Bleu de Chanel
/r/seduction28/03/19 05:12 PM
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Committing to someone and loving someone in a relationship is about compromise and effort. You should only seriously date someone that you are willing to compromise with and is constantly willing to compromise with you. You should also only seriously date someone that is putting in the effort and doesn't get bored with you. Both of these are two way streets. If you find either you or them stop putting in effort and compromising, then they probably aren't the one for you. ​ Physical attraction is…
/r/seduction27/03/19 03:16 AM
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I think he means that if you think women that come along when you are in a relationship are "higher quality" just by meeting them or seeing them, you might want to rethink what quality is. If you are looking for the hottest girl and upgrading whenever you see hotter, that is the type of superficial shit that will have you divorced 4 times by the age of 50.
/r/seduction27/03/19 03:02 AM
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Doesn’t matter what you say. It matters how you say it. There is nothing anyone can tell you to say because if you seem unsure when you say it it won’t have the same effect. So the best thing to say is whatever you’re comfortable saying with a confident demeanor and attitude.
/r/seduction26/03/19 04:00 PM
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It's not worth worrying about what you did wrong (or maybe having done nothing wrong at all). There is no way for you to know whats going on in her head. Maybe she just wanted sex at that night and she figures she doesn't care enough after the fact to talk to you or meet up with you. Maybe she thought about certain factors that she didn't like about you the next day. Maybe she just got into her own and and decided just to stop texting you. The thing is that you never know and probably will never…
/r/seduction26/03/19 12:33 AM
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Dude women are so fickle lol. Once you learn that they don't even know what they want you will stop questioning it so much. There was a girl I met the other weekend who was very much into me. Unfortunately at the same time my friend (who had gotten a bit too drunk) got lost. The girl had asked me if I wanted to come home with her that night, but being a good friend (bros before hoes) I told her I would absolutely have gone with her but I had to find my drunken friend and help him get home. I got…
/r/seduction26/03/19 12:25 AM
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HAHA. Me and my friends used to do this with coffee shop baristas for fun. The vast majority of them got a kick out of it. One threatened to call the cops but you cant win em all haha.
/r/seduction26/03/19 12:16 AM
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Well, without sounding too weird you could ask her for a study date. You are both in the same class and she already sent you notes. When a test is about to come up, ask her if she'd want to study with you. That will allow you another opportunity to flirt and test the waters in person.
/r/seduction26/03/19 12:10 AM
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You are all going on the same trip. That essentially gives you the ability to talk to them casually about the trip and other platonic things without fear of rejection. After all, if someone rejects you for trying to get to know them on a GROUP TRIP, then it would look bad on them. See if you can become friends with them. At least temporarily. Their friends group when in another country automatically is limited to whoever they came on the trip with. I'm sure they would be very comfortable bringin…
/r/seduction26/03/19 12:07 AM
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Its because muscles come with a preconceived notion of being conceded. At least personally, I find that as a muscular guy, the less obvious you make your flirtation and the more genuine you seem, the more she will respect your physical features as just a part of you and not your personality. It especially helps when you don't show off all of yourself with your clothing. Tight fitted clothes are nice and all but a button down is a more humble approach. Use your looks as an unspoken advantage and …
/r/seduction26/03/19 12:02 AM
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A lot of group fitness classes tend to be mostly girls. When I got into kickboxing I started out by joining a cardio kickboxing gym strictly for the exercise and introducing myself to it. I've been at that gym for about a year now. Although there are plenty of attractive women in these classes, I NEVER hit on them. I always mind my own business and go there for the classes. However, I have been approached by women there before and have been checked out a bunch. I usually don't read into that too…
/r/seduction25/03/19 11:22 PM
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Establish your life first at that school before worrying about girls. Although there is nothing wrong with being a lone soldier, a guy that has a lot going on at a school is more desirable. Makes some guy friends at that school. See where they usually go out. Join them. Have a good time. Act like you belong. Immersing yourself into the college lifestyle will give you the most opportunities.
/r/seduction25/03/19 10:48 PM
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You're right man. Not going to the parties at all really does increase your chances at getting laid.
/r/seduction25/03/19 10:40 PM
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I also agree it is BS to an extent. In the end of the day, the goal is to be confident in whatever approach you take and allow things to just flow naturally. Overthinking things is exactly why the idea of game exists. People who are unconfident that they can approach someone, constantly seek tips and tricks from those who are willing to tell them things they can do or say to a woman. If thats the type of thing you need to have enough confidence to make an approach and see where it goes then that…
/r/seduction25/03/19 10:36 PM
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When dealing with groups of girls its a little bit of a different ball game. If you just talk to the one and ignore the rest (even if they aren't talking to you) it makes the situation awkward for everyone involved. The best thing you can do is poke fun at their responses or the lack there of. I figure it like this: if they aren't responding you really don't have anything to lose, might as well convert the awkwardness into a comedic response. If you can break the silence with laughter, especiall…
/r/seduction25/03/19 10:26 PM
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I would recommend more along the lines to just move on with your night and forget. If you cross paths with this girl again, why not, but if you don't who cares. The trick is to not get hung up on ANYONE. Girls are fickle and flakey. They might be into you one minute and have a reason not to be the next minute. If she left you and had the intentions of meeting a guy, odds are she was trying to wait out something better or she just isn't interested. So why can't you do the same thing? Moving onto …
/r/seduction25/03/19 10:06 PM
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Its true. As much as women may act like they are better than you. Its just to fend off those that don't have the confidence to be abrasive. Women like to be lead by someone they deem a strong figure. Yes there are some women that very much love to wear the pants but they are fewer and far between.
/r/seduction25/03/19 09:55 PM
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The game is simply a way of making a likable first impression. You shouldn't try too hard and you shouldn't act uninterested either. You just have to be likable. It doesn't really matter what you say, moreso how you say it. Hell, you can ask her for directions and as long as you do so with a calm and matter of fact attitude, she will not be threatened. If you then come back at her with flirtation, you will come off as more normal and likable.
/r/seduction25/03/19 09:51 PM
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Sir. You respond in a way intelligent English speakers say “logical fallacies.” You believe this conversation has something to do with your assumptions. And you poke at your assertions with more fallacies lol. You must be fun at parties. Anyways, I hope anyone who reads this thread can realize that confidence is just as important as working on the way you look. A man who has to call himself a man is clearly unconfident with themselves.
/r/seduction25/03/19 08:51 PM
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I don’t need to speak for my actions. The proof is in the results which are very good for me. But there may very well be another type of girl that prefers a more uneven look. Some might just not care. Also, a man comfortable and confident in doing things that separate themselves from the pack is arguably more of a man. Woman want what sticks out to them. A clean symmetrical put together man sticks out more than someone who doesn’t put in an effort on the way they look.
/r/seduction25/03/19 07:52 PM
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They’ve said that before I started getting them cleaned up too. Women like facial features on a man more than you think. If anything their own cosmetic interests make them appreciate it on a man even more.
/r/seduction25/03/19 06:18 PM
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I can confidently say that I’ve actually been approached and hit on by girls who say I have nice eyebrows. It has always been a good feature of mine, I just embellish it. But to each their own.
/r/seduction25/03/19 05:43 PM
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Women are attracted to what the majority of men around them look like. Statistically more women are finding obesity attractive the more prevalent it becomes. There are studies on the subject. But nothing can replace a lack of confidence. If you think you need to thin out then do it for your confidence.
/r/seduction25/03/19 05:08 PM
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Ok then I should clarify. I actually get them threaded not waxed at a a salon. The places I go only do eyebrows. It works by just plucking the stray hairs with thread.
/r/seduction25/03/19 04:47 PM
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Just out of curiosity, have you ever actually gotten your eyebrows done? By default all they do is clean them up. I have never had anyone notice I’ve gotten my eyebrows done. It just looks cleaner and more symmetrical. It’s a misconception that people who get their eyebrows done look noticeably different. They look better, but not different.
/r/seduction25/03/19 02:23 PM
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Just because they cut away stray hairs doesn’t mean you look like a doll. This whole statement reeks of insecurity. Trust me my getting my eyebrows done and having a cleaner looking face has nothing to do with my manliness. I more than make up for that with kickboxing.
/r/seduction25/03/19 02:00 PM
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Here’s an example: https://www.macys.com/social/my-stylist/
/r/seduction25/03/19 01:56 PM
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You don't have to like her personality to get with her, you really just gotta act like you're into the conversations. Ask her follow up questions until you can make an obvious observation that you deduced from what she's telling you. Thats how small talk works. Obviously if you like her and want to get to know her better than you would want to actually expand on your conversation.
/r/seduction24/03/19 11:11 PM
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You just met her. She barely knows you lol. She isn't thinking about you yet as anything at all. How you proceed from there determines how she sees you. You are just trying to make her like you first. Once that happens, you can make your intentions more clear with more obvious flirtation.
/r/seduction24/03/19 11:08 PM
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You ask her simple questions and make easy observations on their answers. It keeps the conversation small, its an easy conversation to have and build on, and it teaches you some basic things about her that you can build on.
/r/seduction24/03/19 11:06 PM
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I've heard that too but from an older crowd. Older women like it. The reason it doesn't necessarily mean that to millennials is because we rarely use watches. I see them on maybe 1/100 hands I come across unless its a smart watch. So I would guess to have the same effect on this crowd it would have to be a smart watch.
/r/seduction24/03/19 11:03 PM
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Although I am a fan of a nice looking watch, I'm not entirely there with them in terms of attractiveness. It usually depends on your crowd. If you are in a millennial crowd or younger, most people don't really use or wear watches. You might be able to pull off some kind of bracelet, but most guy friends I have who have success (in the millennial crowd) don't wear anything on their wrist. I personally don't either.
/r/seduction24/03/19 10:52 PM
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My genetics make my stomach tight and protrude. That is both good and bad. The bad is that with any amount of fat great enough to cover my abs, it makes it look like I have more fat than I actually do. The good is that I begin seeing ab definition at about 15-16% (since I do a lot of core exercise and have larger abs). So yeah it’s largely dependent on genetics. At about 10-13% my abdominal area would look like a sculpture lol. I’m content personally with 14-15%
/r/seduction24/03/19 09:06 PM
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There’s taking it slow and then there’s halting it completely. If I vibe with a girl on the first date, a kiss is really the thing that seals the deal for me. If I feel something it tells me if I want to continue seeing that person. If they don’t kiss me then I will just assume they aren’t interested. A kiss isn’t moving fast.
/r/seduction24/03/19 04:38 AM
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Go to bars and clubs but make sure they are college bars. Not gonna have much of a chance if your hangin around 30 year olds.
/r/seduction24/03/19 04:28 AM
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Here I am wondering if I should have sex on the first date or not. But kissing? Psh. If we don’t AT LEAST kiss on the first date then either there was no chemistry and she’s not interested, or she is a super prude.
/r/seduction24/03/19 04:25 AM
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She was 25 and I was 18. She was drop dead gorgeous and at 18 that’s really all I cared about. In retrospect I should have known that no 25 year old woman would date an 18 year old in their right mind. But I was young and naive. It turns out she was incredibly bipolar and I was way out of my league. She started to go psycho and I literally thought one day she was going to stab me. I started keeping my distance and eventually broke it off.
/r/seduction24/03/19 04:23 AM
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I stop giving a fuck when I am out with a cool group of guys. We sit around the table at a bar and fuck around and have a genuinely good time. We flirt with girls who we have no business talking to because it’s just all part of our fun and we don’t really expect anything to come of it. Sometimes we hit, sometimes we don’t. It doesn’t ruin our nights though and we are back out and at it again the following weekend. I have yet to not have a fun weekend out.
/r/seduction24/03/19 04:15 AM
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I met a girl on Omegle once. We started talking afterward and turns out we weren’t that far apart (about an hour and a half). We decided to meet up and give it a shot. We ended up dating for like 3 months.
/r/seduction24/03/19 04:12 AM
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10% body fat is not very attractive. That’s more for people who really just wanna be ripped. Around 14-15% is what you want.
/r/seduction24/03/19 04:10 AM
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No. The worst thing that happens is they say yes and you get the clap.
/r/seduction24/03/19 04:07 AM
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It doesn’t I agree. But look at it from the girls perspective. Some random guy just complimented her and started staring at her saying nothing. Maybe she’s aware it’s an awkward pickup attempt sure. But she may also feel threatened.
/r/seduction23/03/19 10:00 PM
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So your suggestion to him when he’s nervous and doesn’t know what to say is just be not nervous? You can’t really have a calm silent moment with someone you said one word to. Even if you could. If you are too nervous to know what to say next then awkwardness is the only thing that will come of it. Cut your losses, try again next time unless you manage to come up with something else.
/r/seduction23/03/19 09:42 PM
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Sexy women with a slim figure. A cute face. And lots of daddy issues. The more the merrier. But in all seriousness sure, agree to disagree. Maybe its not for everyone. I can only say what works for me when I use it.
/r/seduction23/03/19 08:24 PM
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I used to ask for snapchats in place of numbers for a while. Its a much more fun way to flirt over the phone. However, if your goal is just to see her pictures then go on insta if you want.
/r/seduction23/03/19 08:17 PM
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Most of my friends are women so I can say this as a certainty. I don't what kind of body dysmorphic women you are going for, but "most women" work very hard and spend a lot of money on the way they look. Unless they have the aforementioned problems, they really do appreciate a genuine compliment. Compliment her hair, say she looks stunning in her outfit, etc. As long as you are genuine and don't seem like you just said that because you have nothing else to say, it turns into a positive thing. Th…
/r/seduction23/03/19 08:12 PM
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Its only creepy if you make it creepy. If you walk up to her twiddling your fingers and toes like a scared kid on his way to the first day of school then yeah she will think you're creepy. But if you walk up to her demanding of the attention with confidence and assertiveness and genuinely compliment then thats a whole different ball game. Girls can tell when you are just spitting bad game or saying something genuine.
/r/seduction23/03/19 08:00 PM
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I mean you just gotta do it. You are in the position to succeed right now just by doing what is actually a very simple thing. If you don't want to seize the opportunity, someone else will.
/r/seduction23/03/19 07:55 PM
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If you want to take her clothes off then just start taking them off. Don't think too much. Its not like clothes just come off in a second. There is a long time between pants being on and pants being off where if she wasn't interested, she would tell you. If she's letting you do it and continuing, she obviously wants you to do it.
/r/seduction23/03/19 07:44 PM
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Those are very vague statements. The answer is you do nothing about it. You continue your plan to make a move and see where it takes you. She could mean she might not be interested, but it also could mean she IS interested and is pretty much just hurrying you up to make a move. Real advice would be don't let it get to that point.
/r/seduction23/03/19 07:28 PM
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Thanks. The problem I have is that I’m not consistent in my mentality- sometimes I’ll be extremely confident and excited, other times it’s hard to get out of my head. How would you get past this? Also, is there a thought process behind when to go for the number/kiss/f-close? You get out of your head by just doing. The more you do it, the easier it will get. You have to fall off your bike a few times before learning how to ride. So you gotta realize that anxiety around the situation is more due t…
/r/seduction23/03/19 07:18 PM
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High confidence is just for when you meet them. Once you really start getting to know them you can be more real with them. So showing a bit of vulnerability by doing this isn't a bad thing for a relationship. If she really did have issues with someone doing this, then thats not the type of girl you want anyways.
/r/seduction23/03/19 07:04 PM
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In the end of the day girls are receptive to confidence too. As long as you are confident in the way you look, you're fine. But a lot of guys with image issues need that fitness confirmation and happiness that comes of it to attain that level of confidence. I got fit but used to get girls before that too. Albeit not as many, I still only got fit because I wanted to. Not cause I felt I needed to.
/r/seduction23/03/19 06:58 PM
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If you have no problem talking to her and it seems like you guys are getting along, then why don't you be open with her about it and ask her? You can even phrase it in a way that will only make her like you more. Tell her you really like spending time with her and you like her and you really want to kiss her or take things further with her but you want to make sure she's comfortable with it so as not to mess things up. She should appreciate your honest and give you an honest response.
/r/seduction23/03/19 06:56 PM
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Anything that isn’t enclosed. The most you’re gonna get is a “thank you”. You got nowhere to go from there. Plus a lotta females are weirded out by a physical compliment straight out the gate ​ That isn't true. There is an entire pickup strategy that revolves around a compliment. Girls are caught off guard and made to feel special. Now they are expecting more of the same from you if you continue to talk. Instead you follow it up with a completely separate conversation about the "real reason" you…
/r/seduction23/03/19 06:46 PM
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I've done that before but the problem is usually the other girl is not as attractive (and knows it). So when I'm talking to her and not trying anything with her or putting on any moves, she usually realizes what is happening and coaxes her friend away. That is obviously the case in groups of 2 girls but usually i can distract larger groups of girls while they talk to one of them pretty well. As a side note my trick to distracting a whole group pretty successfully is making them think i'm very fl…
/r/seduction23/03/19 05:52 PM
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What can I do to stop getting stuck on making out and go further? That is a very good question and I happen to be very good at transitional moves so I'll describe my go to for going from making out to sex. Slowly work your hand to her hip while kissing. Slowly slide your hand under her shirt and guide it to the small of her back. Your hand should barely be in her shirt, and should never go up the front of her shirt at all. You don't want her to think you're trying to cop a feel or anything. (Gir…
/r/seduction23/03/19 05:47 PM
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How do I improve my social circle and find out about more parties? This is easier than you think. Obviously the best place to find a social circle of people who like going to parties and know when/where to go IS AT PARTIES. There are a lot of guys that go to those parties that spend a lot of time standing around either just relaxing or too uptight to make a move. You can just start up conversation with them and put in an effort to genuinely get to know them. After a convo, tell them you think th…
/r/seduction23/03/19 05:35 PM
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It’s hard to tell without seeing the situation as a whole. My guess is if she agreed to meet you at your house she was probably looking to hookup. Obviously you did the right thing by not going there immediately. Breaking the touch barrier would have been the real indicator of what she was looking for. If she was receptive to it and leaned in closer to you, then you probably could have just stared at her, see if she stared back and went in for the kiss very shortly after. Then you can kind of es…
/r/seduction23/03/19 05:07 PM
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Do you think I should tell them exactly what to say and where to go with the conversation? Part of my game is I really get a feel for the situation and that’s just something you learn by repetition. Would giving them a line that would probably work help? I’m not talking like a pickup line but more of an approach and conversation starter.
/r/seduction23/03/19 04:58 PM
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Really good answer. But another thing I’ve found is that if I do too much of the talking and then kind of hang back, sometimes the girl is just more into me than my friend. Last night I was talking to a girl at a table we were sitting at and my friend started flirting with her. Since I want my friends to do well, I just let them talk and just relaxed at the table and was feeling the music. But I guess the girl wanted me to give her the time of day and she kept turning back to me. I know this thr…
/r/seduction23/03/19 04:50 PM
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My rule of thumb is that until you are committed to one girl you shouldn’t be committed to one girl. Until we use the terms boyfriend girlfriend, relationship, or exclusive, then it’s not exclusive. I’m still weighing other options just as she is probably doing too. It’s you’re own fault if you get too caught up in something that was never actually something to begin with and get hurt.
/r/seduction23/03/19 04:04 PM
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100%. The idea behind relaxing and focusing on having a good time is important. There are reasons guys with girlfriends tend to get hit on more often. It’s because they aren’t focused on getting laid and genuinely are out to have a good time. The mistake people make is scoping the room looking for opportunities to strike. The moment they begin their approach they start pretending to have a good time instead of actually having one. (Newsflash: a lot of guys aren’t the best actors). Having an oppo…
/r/seduction23/03/19 03:28 PM
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I’m also in a big city on the east coast. I can’t attest to everywhere but the places I go Friday nights are generally packed.
/r/seduction23/03/19 03:00 PM
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Well you gotta get the conversation part down before you worry about escalation. There shouldn’t be awkward silence or moments where you don’t know what to say. Saying anything (literally anything) is better than nothing. What kind of dates are you going on? If you aren’t a good talker I wouldn’t go on coffee shop dates or restaurant dates right away. A more activity oriented date would actually be better for you in that respect. Asking a girl if she wants to go ice skate or bowl or something al…
/r/seduction23/03/19 02:12 PM
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Who cares? If it’s not blatantly obvious or somewhat obvious to you what you did than it probably wouldn’t be to most people. Don’t get so caught up in what you did wrong as a result of rejection, it very well could be a her problem not a you problem. Just switch things up a bit next time and see what sticks.
/r/seduction23/03/19 02:05 PM
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Girls can sense desperation just as much as they can sense lack of confidence. If you talk to girls the same way you’d talk to a guy friend and do so standoffishly as you would a guy friend, girls will actually be more receptive to you. It makes them question their own own worthiness given your hesitance to be more handsy or straight forward with them. So essentially, acting more like a dick helps. Just don’t overdue it to the point of blatantly offending her.
/r/seduction23/03/19 02:00 PM
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Well I used to be larger but just finding my game. I used to get rejected a lot. Most girls wouldn’t really give me the time of day. I lost a lot of weight and gained muscle, and now I rarely get rejected. My standards now are even a bit higher than they were then. So I would say looks do matter in most cases. However, I was able to be successful with girls in both cases, it was just easier when I lost the weight and gained muscle.
/r/seduction23/03/19 09:53 AM
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Just talk louder and be more high energy than she is. A club is a very fun environment and girls are really just trying to have a good time. Walk up to her feeling the music and the beat and just start up conversation as you normally would from there. Really the only difference is the vibe. You can be more soft spoken and conversationally at a bar. More loud rambunctious fun and to the point at clubs.
/r/seduction23/03/19 09:47 AM
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I have a friends with benefits relationship with my ex. That kind of leaves me in a place where I’m single and I still don’t give a F at bars and clubs. Pretty cool limbo this has left me in. I meet people at bars without caring much about getting laid.
/r/seduction23/03/19 09:40 AM
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If you don’t know what to say than walk away. There is a possibility that she will call back to you or WORST CASE she feels complimented and goes on with her day normally. Either way doesn’t create an extended silence which you don’t really want.
/r/seduction23/03/19 09:34 AM
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Pay close attention. Make fun of her when she contradicts herself. She’s nervous too when talking to someone new. If you call her out on something she said which contradicts or seems odd based on something she had said earlier than it’s a great opportunity to poke fun. It shows her you were listening whilst making her realize her silly phrasing or statement.
/r/seduction23/03/19 09:31 AM
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