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All my 1st dates are in gardens and sit close to her with a manspread. U can start with a high five and then grab her hand when u wanna take her somewhere
/r/seduction28/07/26 07:08 AM
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Dont u think women juat enjoy any guy who can have pleasnt entertaining convo ? They tend to keep it going as lomg as u play safe and non provocative
/r/seduction27/07/26 04:10 AM
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All i know is that you shouldnt have verbalised the suspicion " are u using me for drinks " Thats never gonna work and is a big turn off. If u wanted to get laid , why were u talking for an hour ? Did u flirt and polarise ?. You could have spoke to atleast 3 more girls in that hour if all u wanna do is get laid. It does look like they just wanted free attention and drinks and you gave them the 1st
/r/seduction27/07/26 02:40 AM
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Cool..i am not into hookups..i definitely think i will.regret it even if i give in to my urges. I take sex very seriously Just a different upbringing i guess. But thanks ..the only way guys like me can learn is take wisdom from men who are succeeding in this game
/r/seduction26/07/26 05:13 PM
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How chill and spontaneous he is.
/r/seduction26/07/26 04:45 PM
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Indirect will also open you to getting tricked by timewasters , high chances of friendzone if ur ability to consistenly generate tension is weak. You also invest way more time on a girl . People always think direct kills tension but people forget about nonverbals . You have to be verbally direct with otherwordly levela of self asssuredness and confidence. Direct fails when u do it an invested manner. Direct can be the best tool if ur nonverbals are on point. It creates high tension and if u get …
/r/seduction26/07/26 03:12 PM
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Direct when you are indifferent to social judgement so beach , streets , open public spaces Indirect when u are gonna meet the people again and nehative judgement to social reputation can lead to you getting cornered or heavily judged so work, gym even local bars
/r/seduction26/07/26 03:05 PM
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No..actually it only works on girls who see me as out of their league because a guy like me is desiring them so intensely. But teasing is a more universal way of creating tension and it can work well for both girls who see me out of their league and also ones who are not sure abt me. Teasing or pulling her leg a bit also helps me depedestalise her if i find her very attractive so i guess i shd switch to teaaing and use my earlier style when we are in bed
/r/seduction26/07/26 10:40 AM
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I see ..i am asking all this because i show desire in a highly intense assertive verbal fashion ..and it can go vulgar. I am not a teaser but guess that helps Thanks.
/r/seduction26/07/26 10:19 AM
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Cool i expected that..do u desire them in a clear asaertive and confident way or more like teasing , negging and frustrating their egos?. Like the goal ia to create tension and which of the above tools do u use often?
/r/seduction26/07/26 09:51 AM
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Nope you did fine..the intent seems pretty clear , the convo was short and number exchange was also good. Its when they get ur number and see ur text at home..they realise they will be going on a date and some women are just not open to that escalation even when the guy was attractive to her. No amount of extra chemistry is gonna change that. I know ita confusing but trust me..she juat got turned off for some random reason.
/r/seduction26/07/26 08:54 AM
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Its normal ..majority of your approaches wont lead to she coming on dates. Just accept it and move on.
/r/seduction26/07/26 08:39 AM
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Thats great that you are mentally present in thr moment. But are u direct or imdirect ? How forward are you ? How did u handle girls trying to mess with u ?
/r/seduction26/07/26 02:26 AM
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Thats an easy problem..if u met her in a bar..flirt more directly and use a false time constraint to get her number and additionally check if she wants to change bars or go outaide with u. In daygame . U stay direct..no indirect or situational opener and go for the number within 5 min. Timewasters hate direct and straightforward men.
/r/seduction25/07/26 06:04 AM
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Yeah i had a girl who made me rethink my whole approach to women because of how she treated me
/r/seduction24/07/26 01:35 PM
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Yes i do
/r/seduction24/07/26 07:57 AM
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Can u elaborate..i think it also happened with me ?
/r/seduction24/07/26 03:53 AM
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This is a very nice comment. I am gonna take a mental note of this
/r/seduction24/07/26 01:37 AM
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I recommend accepting that you are an asshole if she calls you that. In my experience , such women use such adjectives to again provoke u to react. So dont react or apologise..stand your ground. But if u think a stranger girl is unfairly picking on u..just make a polite excuse and leave. It will be subcommunicated that you dont wanna engage anymore. But if its a female acquiantance whos naturally like that..roast her back..no mercy and if she calls you an asshole..just either continue as if u di…
/r/seduction24/07/26 01:34 AM
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Yeah u are right but OPs question was how to create sparks and i wanted to say that sparks come when u dont play safe and show that ur real side is witty , flirtatious whatever it is..it creates strong emotions
/r/seduction23/07/26 04:09 PM
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Might be ..i also think.
/r/seduction23/07/26 10:27 AM
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I didnt get you..why dont u act ?
/r/seduction23/07/26 09:15 AM
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Man i laughed for a whole minute..!
/r/seduction23/07/26 09:12 AM
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Hahaha..not bad
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:56 AM
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Yeah i get it now but arent we suppposed to act how we truly feel ? Isnt that authentic?
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:54 AM
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I know when the intentions are playful and i can play it back well. I dont mind that..its just silly behavior. I just lose my cool if its mean spirited
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:51 AM
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Thanks for the answer ..i am improving myself ..i just dont wanna tolerate disrespect so i call it out. While its considered assertive abd setting boundaries with other men. I now realise with women..a man must not acknwoledge what she said and make an excuse to withdraw attention or just leave unbothered. I am learning but my natural default response it to call it out and say " behave yourself or grow up "
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:49 AM
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Umm yeah but i just am very transparent so the intentions are clear..slowly i realised this whole dating thing works on plausible denaibility. So yeah i dont use the word date anymore...i regularly daygame and have improved a lot .
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:46 AM
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Yes i know when its just pulling my leg or when its mean spirited. I remember a girl implying that i was a pedo..just because i was doing some calisthenics and small girls were also playing so i just said hello to them. I made her apologise ..as i thought this was too much and in this case i was not attracted to her.
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:40 AM
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No no..i dont massively overreact but i just look at her with a disgusted face Very stupid things I met a girl who was showing compliant behavior towards ..we were strangers but she came with me on train and aaid " i am coming with u " I dont use social media and just called myself a grandpa and then it started Random 3rd person asking me " so why didnt u attend the uni grad ceremony " She : he thinks he is too cool for that Me : no i just dont like to go if its a big event..its just how i am. I…
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:24 AM
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Oh yeah i did..but i tend to be very cold and mean.. Instead of fighting back..its better to not acknowledge it abd withdraw
/r/seduction23/07/26 06:15 AM
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Am 24M
/r/seduction23/07/26 06:13 AM
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Drop some wisdom then?
/r/seduction23/07/26 05:46 AM
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Depends if its a small village or a big locality ina densely populated city. No problem if u havr 500k people in your neighborhood
/r/seduction23/07/26 05:26 AM
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Sparks are generated when two rocks rub. You are that one rock that rubs against her. This could be anything that leads to stronger emotions in the girl ranging from lighthearted frustration, feeling challenged or she is speechless by something u said Mind u i call you two rocks for a reason . All humans when they are meeting strangers play their safe non provocative side. They wanna keep things pleasant and polite If she says no sparks = you did not show me your real raw imperfect side = you ca…
/r/seduction23/07/26 02:38 AM
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Just ask when she is next free ?
/r/seduction21/07/26 04:18 PM
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Well it has to be something that forces her to decide ..something where intent is clear and she why you are here
/r/seduction20/07/26 02:43 PM
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I live in the most populated country and of the most densely populated cities . I got my first date thru cold approach in EU around 30 -35 approaches . I only reecommemd never giving up with approaches and doimg the bare mimimum when u approach likr direct compliment + basic small talk ( age , location, studies/career) + exchange contact . Keep it under 5 min
/r/seduction20/07/26 01:51 PM
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Honestly cold approaches on the street changed my life. It taught me to be chill about rejections, ghosting and rude behavior It helped me idenitify whos being polite and who is more likely to come on date The results are still more than apps would give me Even if i am in a rush and i get few minutes and the right girl comes around..my approach anxiety is almost 0. My texting is also just to setup the date I get like 2 dates per month and i barely spend anything..i just take them to the nearest …
/r/seduction20/07/26 12:07 PM
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Use Gpt To make a contextually appropriate translation
/r/seduction20/07/26 10:36 AM
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" lady , wanted to say hello . You look cute "
/r/seduction20/07/26 07:26 AM
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Why do u need to talk to shitloads of women if u have the skills to punch above ur weight ? Shdnt game make u a guy who can pull girls using method xyz ? I personally believe in direct forward behavior and yes u need to talk to many women to get a few dates. I dont think i have " game " But if the said person has game then ur success rate should be better with fewer women
/r/seduction20/07/26 03:14 AM
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No. The Models guy is a social man who talks to everyone and doesnt accomadate girls and ends up maybe challenging them or offending them because their viewss differ. Some girls get attracted to him because of this and he just later asks them out
/r/seduction20/07/26 01:36 AM
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Yeah but only well trained people can pull it off smoothly and yes for me..i always wanna be balls out bold and i am mostly in flow state ..just doing whatever i like..the bonus gift is i discover she is not into me when i do what i like. Example..girls who are into me .have no problem when i take their hand and strt walking. But timewasters try to get their hand out..thats when i am like..ok..this is not going hoe i wnt it to go..i already think of leaving
/r/seduction19/07/26 04:54 PM
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Manson simplifies it by saying..just be vulnerable to judgement , rejection , criticism by being forward Forwardness usually is expressing desire with confident nonverbals That is game..forwardness is bold..creates tension and also helps u filter timewasters If u are not forward ..u risk wasting time doing pleasnt safe convo that leadss to no sparks rejection To use all the tricks u stated makes u come across as calculated to make it work. Whereas forwardness is default behavior ..its not done t…
/r/seduction19/07/26 03:58 PM
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Game unfortunately has many definitions. But Manson does say seduction is the process by which the man makes the woman more invested in him. You can think of that as a definition of game. Sharing something what u find funny and trying to make someone laugh have two different root intentions. Manson suggeats to have a sense of humour because its a social lubricant and can ease the nerves . I agree on the texting part tho Overall the whole book is a strong inner game book . Confidently expressing …
/r/seduction19/07/26 02:55 PM
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Read Models by Mark Manson
/r/seduction19/07/26 02:21 PM
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Thanks for gour answer ..you are doing hella good..i am no pro.. but i would only suggest keeping texting to bare mimimum and ask her out asap. Like hi , it was fun meeting u. Then whhen are u next free. ? If this was a direct street approach where u flirted with her..the above texting style got me dates. But if u met her thru friends..just maybe text a bit more and setup the date. I also recommend not fliring or sexting on text. Juat use it for basic convo and setting up dates. As for dates ..i…
/r/seduction19/07/26 09:57 AM
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What do u mean nothing happened ? Give me an avg approach you make ? How does it look like?
/r/seduction19/07/26 06:35 AM
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For me personally Game = making attempts to achieve your goal ( hookup/ realtionship/makeout ) + staying unbothered by the girls behavior. The first quality will make u approach women , escalate with number exchange , setup dates The second quality will keep u unaffected by rejection, last minute cancelling , shit testing and bitchy behavior by women. Naturally you will develop high volume and with high volume ..you will land some dates or hookups
/r/seduction17/07/26 07:43 AM
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What is good ? A guy like me pulls 2 dates every month but i am looking for serious. I need to approach atleast 60 women to get 2 proper dates..
/r/seduction15/07/26 01:50 PM
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Nice i do think i need some of your methods because there is no ambiguity in my game. Its intense and verbally charged but it also kills attraction by giving a lot of mystery away too soon.
/r/seduction15/07/26 11:38 AM
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Thanks for the answer..it covers most of my questions..what i notice is that you act pretty friendly without much pressure on whether this is a date or friendly hangout but i guess you escalate well using nonverbals by maybe eye contact, physical closeness, some playful teasing and maybe somehow u manage to get intimate. I on the other hand do some similar things but i am very big on verbal rizzing and smooth talking and cheesy lines..and asserting myself physically even to the point of being a …
/r/seduction15/07/26 11:23 AM
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Just wondering do u cold approach in daytime and if u do ..what sort of excuses do u use ? Actually since u started indirect abd barely flirt..how do u avoid getting friendzoned? The intent is so weak here On ur dates ..how do u behave ? Do u believe the man should try to makeout on the 1st date itself ?
/r/seduction15/07/26 08:14 AM
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Good post ..the real question remains..ever since all this started in the 80s or 90s have we found out what really differentiates guys who regularly get results vs guys who get nothing?
/r/seduction14/07/26 02:42 PM
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Something in ur interaction should make them speechless Could be one of ur comebacks or ur ability to not at all be affevted when they are taking a dig on u.
/r/seduction14/07/26 12:43 PM
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Well explained..my autistic ass finally figured this out as well.
/r/seduction14/07/26 04:10 AM
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In my experience..no matter what u do a 50% success rate is impossible..even if u approach mediocre girls. Assuming we are talkimg abt daygame. If u do 10 approaches , are you getting 5 dates ???
/r/seduction13/07/26 01:34 AM
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You need to be in areas where a lot of single women hangout and you need to be forward and indifferent and shoot ur shot as much as possible. Its a numbers game
/r/seduction12/07/26 04:40 PM
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I disagree ..you need to work hard on yourself to get the fruits of high self esteem. 1) You need to take baby steps and challenge yourself with a wide variety of diverse challenging tasks. It can range from learning to fix basic electronics at home, trying calisthenics yada yada 2) you need to keep your worf virtually all the time . You cannot make plans and fall lazy or show cowardice , it creates a neegative self loop that drops your self esteem. 3) treat yourself well - high quality nutritio…
/r/seduction12/07/26 04:43 AM
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If u wanna save time, humble ur ego and have volume - use direct If u wanna save your reputation and maintain plausible deniability in a small social circle - use indirect
/r/seduction09/07/26 07:48 AM
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The only way to not fear rejection is too many rejections and still approaching.
/r/seduction09/07/26 05:31 AM
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Straight up suggesting a date . A girl is receptive only when she comes on a date .
/r/seduction08/07/26 02:00 PM
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This is probably the hardest thing to learn in game At some point flirting ,being foreward, smooth talking can be learned but this takes a lot of good practice. I.e Indifference
/r/seduction08/07/26 12:41 PM
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You forgot that game also involves indifference or outcome independence. Its the hardest thing to learn.
/r/seduction08/07/26 08:03 AM
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Thoughtless. You improvise as things come
/r/seduction08/07/26 05:35 AM
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Human evolution ia nearly 300,000 years long and we spent less than 1 % of that time in big cities. Most time was spent in tribes or small communities. Women judged men by their demand in society( or social status) Survival was everything ..from a woman..perspective. She needs a guy who either already has resources or skills to acquire resources or that mindset that he can get resources. That mindset ia extremely important. How does she filter for such guys? By observing how he behaves around ot…
/r/seduction07/07/26 10:46 AM
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Anyone who gets basic evolution will laugh at black pill
/r/seduction07/07/26 09:48 AM
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Yes this is a valid question . I recommend staying direct and flirtatious right from the get go because its easier to sustain that tension later as well If u acted all friendly and then start slowly flirting..it works if she is already into u but if she is not..she may keep u around or if she is actually a good human being , she will clafify she ia not interested. To avoid all that drama and crap and asuming u are no chad but a normal guy , just learn to be direct and shoot ur shot. Even during …
/r/seduction07/07/26 07:01 AM
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Forwardness = make moves, be direct, escalate to intimacy, setup dates Indifference = its how u respond when u are randomly disrespected , forced to accomadate for her , how u handle mean behavior. For me if a guy can master these 2 ..he will do great. Learning to be forward is easier than learning indifference. U need high and secure self esteem
/r/seduction06/07/26 04:17 PM
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Lady, wanted to say hello. What are u doing right now?
/r/seduction01/07/26 04:29 PM
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Vielen dank !
/r/seduction30/06/26 02:47 PM
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Once u get into the flow , the lack of overthinking and just surrendering to the process feels amazing. I dont have the time to reflect abt the rejection i got I personally feel humbled..let the waves of rejections come.. I develop egotistical indifference Then randomly a girl is eager to give ur her number and u feel even better only for her to ghost u ..ouch ..but thats normal. Yet u wake up again and approach whenever u feel like. Every new day is a reset..a blank slate
/r/seduction29/06/26 01:52 PM
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You think what u are doing is weird and unusual when its not. Its normal to wanna talk to an attractive girl and see if u have a chance with her. U gotta remove that judgement. Most people dont really care ..most daygame approaches are done within 5 min How will the baddies meet u otherwise ? How are u different from other guys who just stare at them and regret ? Take baby steps.. just say hi to a girl when she looks available. Also be ready to face all sorts of rejectiona, approach anxiety, ick…
/r/seduction25/06/26 10:17 AM
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Thankyou..yes with time i learned that its a good sign that i am getting tested so she just wants to confirm! Someone here in the comments also enlightened me that shit tests and just being disrepectful are two different things. shit tests are just lighthearted attempts to frustrate or trigger and i naturally sense the underlying mischevious vibe and either reply with a witty comeback or just plain ignore it and talk abt something else. But when i get disrespected..thats when i cannot tolerate i…
/r/seduction25/06/26 02:56 AM
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She thinks u are a creep? So ? Does that make u a creep because she thought like that ?
/r/seduction23/06/26 06:04 PM
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You cannot make her the highest priority nor can u live ur entire twenties juat focused on work. You were always a busy man..beforw u even approach her..and u stay busy U gatekeep attention just like she gatekeeps sex
/r/seduction23/06/26 02:53 PM
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Thanks bud.. I stopped apps but am solely using cold approach. Trying to make a big social circle by pursuing hobbies. I think i only need to improve my fashion sense as i see women actually redpond to it well.
/r/seduction23/06/26 02:46 AM
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Hey would u mind sharing whats working out for u in terms of game? I was surprised how similar our goals and thoughts are.
/r/seduction23/06/26 01:21 AM
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Yes he believes in following a woman until he gets a proper NO . It doesnt qualify as try hard because its not overcompensating for anything. Bayne just believes he deserves attention from the woman so he just asserts until he gets blown away. A guy who already sees himself as below the woman automatically ejects the moment she walks away from him because it just reeinforces his idea that he is beneath her. Bayne challenges the idea by acting like a high self esteem guy who just persists because…
/r/seduction21/06/26 12:46 PM
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On the 1st look yeah..but i have seen all his videos..they are intentionally made like that. I think his style is like that not because of lack of game but lack of try hard behavior. More like a guy like him..just needs to open a girl with hello and get number.
/r/seduction21/06/26 11:23 AM
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Sure man..i am not his fanboy ..his channel is super small..his videos are long . They dont seem to be optimised for click bait. His pua bashing seems like a bully problem he has..in general.. The questions..u posed..i cant answer as i am not him but i totally agree his game is not polarising enough and the intent is weak. Also if it was fear of rejection then usually men try harder to game women by jestermaxxing or rizzing. Bayne seems to do nothing. He just communicates that all my investment …
/r/seduction21/06/26 08:54 AM
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Me : standing near her ..stable eye contact with tinsy bit curiosity " lady, wanted to say hello " silence Whatever her reaction ..be i still tell my name and make my statement of intent that i find her cute/pretty ..if ita purely sexual..i prefer aaying attractive than the word hot as its too much for grocery shops. If she verbalises not interested i eject If she doesnt but body language is shy ..i talk about what i am shopping and ask what she is shopping Do minor small talk , give number , ej…
/r/seduction21/06/26 08:30 AM
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He is but he is already rich by crypto..and his layers ideas are somehwat original..somewhat what mark manson did touch upon in his book models about performance but baybe dives deep into weird peraonality quirks guys develop to overcompensate for self perceived deficiencies. I do agree he has got some valid points. His approaches involve no layers..except for his stupid Drip clothing He is unique weirdo..but worth taking a look
/r/seduction21/06/26 08:06 AM
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He is definitely problrmatic but i notice he is not making money out of cold approach..he has not much incentive so whatever he teaches is just his wisdom from his approaches . Anyways if u look at his approach style..its so lame and crap but i have gotten numbers by doing that. And if u think abt it..he is subcommunicating high value by not trying at all. His investment is bare minimum by just approaching and saying hello. The other puas arrive at the same result doing complex mental gymnastics…
/r/seduction21/06/26 07:14 AM
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Personally dont recommend watching infields as u would imitate them. One of the non negotiables in cold approach is seeming sincere and women can smell that you are just a script being played. Nonetheless the youtube channel called bayneframe would be the beat for a guy like u. Checkout his USSR infield video https://youtu.be/JEqWSy3RT1g?si=vzCWSLWfFsPoYrsH He doesnt post infields
/r/seduction21/06/26 06:47 AM
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Maybe i worded it i a say that it seems toxic. But i am just demonstrating ehat a guy with options naturally is forced to do. He has work, fitness , being with male friends, hobbies , minor errands , has to initiate with girls and sustain his relations with girls he is dating. So if u make a priority list work > fitness > hanging out with buddies > hobbies > errands > talk to girls > maintain girls he is dating. When he initiates and manages to get his 1st date he is more invested than the girl.…
/r/seduction21/06/26 03:19 AM
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Depends on how much u deinvest...i dont recommend extreme deinvesting but more like giving her room to invest if u think u are overinvested. At its core a man has to invest with indifference Without investment the game wont start Without i difference the game wont last long
/r/seduction21/06/26 03:10 AM
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Well for me the goal is to have a vibrant dating life and high self esteem derived through options and positive experiences. I personally dont play games but recently i was forced to deinvest and the woman started investing more. When i am in my fifties..i just want some assurance that i dated a few girls..had some experiences
/r/seduction21/06/26 03:07 AM
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Yes very well put. I myself always used to initiate dates on weekends but life got busy and i went silent for 2 weeks. Then she wanted to meet and this woman is extremely mature for her age so i just withdrew a little and the investment got balanced
/r/seduction21/06/26 03:00 AM
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I totally agree but the current world has more low self worth women than high self worth women and from a getting laid persoective it works
/r/seduction20/06/26 04:53 PM
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I have only had 1 woman shit testing me before the date. Rest all girls showed up even if the texting was 0 for 10 days and more Male attention is as valauble as sexual comoanionship with woman. Only reserved for women who are investing more than u do
/r/seduction20/06/26 03:17 PM
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I expect her to remember me . I dont really introduce myself
/r/seduction20/06/26 03:15 PM
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Personally this works very well After 3hrs of taking the number Me : hey it was nice meeting u She : likewise or same ! Me : cool ..when are u next free She : ghosted / she : i am busy /i will let u know : / saturday i am free Me :-- / leave her on read /ok sat works see ya Text her 2 hrs before to specify place and time.
/r/seduction20/06/26 05:24 AM
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Saturdaya are for daygame . Sundays are for dates
/r/seduction18/06/26 02:13 PM
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Why dont u straight up set the date ? Like after u get her number say it waa fun meeting her And " when are u next free " You will either get ghosted , get an excuse , or a day when she is free Set the date and dissappear. 0 texting game
/r/seduction18/06/26 02:11 PM
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You can use the classic response " maybe" or " i dont know " Or " hmmmmmm" Enjoy
/r/seduction16/06/26 01:47 PM
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No even in cold approach on streets, setting up a date is kind of fast given u just spoke for 5 min. But i have gone on dates in both cases ( setting via text / during approach) Guess it doesnt matter
/r/seduction16/06/26 11:20 AM
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You are right but it still doesnt matter. I have gone on dates by setting the date via text For some girls setting up a date within 5 min is a bit too much and too early
/r/seduction16/06/26 10:41 AM
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Hey man.. Why dont u checkout this book " Forward Male 2 " by Mike mehlman Read his sample on amazon.. In daygame , its mostly about volume. Every approach is different and unpredictable Also no need to talk 30+ min . U shd be done within 3-4 min
/r/seduction16/06/26 10:33 AM
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Why are u even texting so much? Only text for setting up dates
/r/seduction13/06/26 06:11 AM
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I personally recommend meta glasses and integrated tool
/r/seduction12/06/26 03:56 PM
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Uhh some vision model fine tuned to detect it
/r/seduction12/06/26 11:45 AM
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A girl who is more likely to engage in hookup and has been hooking up Low exposure is the kind who only sleeps in long term serious relationship and marriage and has barely dated
/r/seduction12/06/26 11:36 AM
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A high exposure vs low exposure girl detector
/r/seduction12/06/26 10:55 AM
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" so u dont wanna check the bar out? " Just play a bit dumb , but ur assumptive and audacious attitude shd stay intact .
/r/seduction11/06/26 08:33 AM
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You got the last part wrong..i dont think they are realising it unles u confront thrm with that fact
/r/seduction11/06/26 01:09 AM
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U cannot control anyones behavior or predict the future , this game is based on feelings. You need 3 things 1) high volume ( take as many shots as u can ) 2) indifference ( outcome indpenedence) 3) being forward ( not being timid)
/r/seduction10/06/26 10:29 AM
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I think u are doimg the right thing by losing interest in a girl whos making it hard to meet without rescheduling Yeah maimatain high volume of approaches.. Even if u have 0 girls..do not lose ur frame when they test u by flaking , ghosting , making excuses I recently messed up and lost a date ..so saying
/r/seduction09/06/26 02:24 AM
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Do u know how many women flaked on me ? The nunber is definitely above 50. Out of around 245 approaches Those fat / ugly guys just have more exp than u..and yes they are not nice , they are more raw and they might even negg or put her down and they attract typically damaged insecure girls. Heres the real advice i can offer. Go read content on cold approach and male female dynamics Start with Inner game fundamental books 1) mark mansons " Models" 2) Alan Roger Currie's " Mode one " 3) Micheal kin…
/r/seduction06/06/26 09:35 AM
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I remember you.. you were blaming sweden for everything . Why should anyone give u a chance ? Men have to initiate and lead. Dont dump ur resposibility on women. A cool guy doesnt whine and he is cool because he is okay with reality and makes the best out of it. You cannot be cool and whiny at the same time. I dont wanna criticise or trigger u..but i am saying ur biggest obstacle is you and not feminist sweden .
/r/seduction06/06/26 03:12 AM
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Hey i am in my early 20s and a nerd and never had a gf. Never even bothered to , but similar to u..i am quite smart and have done well academically . So i used my intellect to figure out women. I read everything i could find on female sexuality and in general male female dynamics I understood what inner game is and i learned to cold approach I have done around 240 approaches and now landing atleast 1 date per month and sometimes 2 girls . I have quite cute but 5'7 and have grown masssive balls J…
/r/seduction05/06/26 03:08 PM
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I was about to say the same. Reschedule is a good sign.
/r/seduction05/06/26 07:28 AM
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What made you think that volume will save you and don't you think a guy can improve his game?
/r/seduction05/06/26 03:38 AM
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Easily especially when the term misogynist is thrown around like a frisbee
/r/seduction05/06/26 03:35 AM
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hey OP , just check out The forward Male 2 by mike mehlman . read the sample on amazon the guy has completely opposite belief system than you he has by now apppoached an entire big village ( 30k atleast) so i wanna hear your thoughts after you read his experiences
/r/seduction01/06/26 05:00 AM
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it is daygame warm approach not cold approach because the girl signalled u. you already did great by approaching. rest the womans reaction is out of ur control while it may seem she was interested , how she behaves during the approach has no connection to her actually showing up. u can have enthusiastic women flaking on u , you can have disinterested women coming on the date her excuse is just a rejection , if she is truly receptive , she would have made plans despite her schedule. you did nothi…
/r/seduction30/05/26 03:11 AM
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enjoy ur date
/r/seduction29/05/26 10:51 AM
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a number means nothing if u are not meeting . are u guys meeting ?
/r/seduction29/05/26 07:22 AM
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i guarantee she flaked dont spend days texting , u got her number , straight up say u are a bad texter and prefer connecting in person and ask "when she is next free " you will either get a proper day when she is free or everything else is a rejection if she doesnt give u a concrete day , leave her on read and forget her onto the next girl
/r/seduction29/05/26 03:47 AM
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lets see if we both agree on the following ideas. 1) you cannot predict the future 2) you cannot control any other humans behavior just the above two ideas show that you dont have jack shit in control. your overthinking comes from a place of outcome dependance and the " need to perform " you have been sold misleading ideas that this is a controllable system that can be influenced by negging , qualifying , touching , complimenting yada yada when you actually realise you have nothing in control , …
/r/seduction28/05/26 03:20 AM
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i see a lot of self limiting beliefs and excuses to not daygame. anyone who does daygame knows harsh rejections are possible , flaking is normal . if ur goal is to avoid rejection and maximise dates - you are delusional i guess sweden is easier to daygame as i daygame in mumbai for 3 months and i have reached 130 women and 6 dates . rejections and flaking are part of the process dude .. grow some balls , dont be so sensitive . you are ruining your own game with such ideas in ur head. u wanna be …
/r/seduction22/05/26 03:30 AM
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have you tried daygaming in stockholm?
/r/seduction21/05/26 04:05 PM
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nahh i dont think u could have done anything there your convo is super normal , maybe u could have talked a bit abt yourself but she inst interested its not your fault
/r/seduction21/05/26 05:43 AM
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it doesnt matter , its not what the guy said , its about who complimented her . OP is right to say to stop fawning , i would go as to say compliment only if she is confused why u approached. dont say omg u look gorgeous , just say you look good/cool the fact that u approached her and are talking -- she knows learn to put the least effort in the approach
/r/seduction21/05/26 03:52 AM
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yeah agreed . i will try
/r/seduction20/05/26 04:41 PM
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ok fair enuf , so how much time do u suggest ?
/r/seduction20/05/26 02:30 PM
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idk man.. i just has a date , 2.5 hrs long , sang songs , holded hands, hand on hips,,ass, then 3 times makeout and even rubbing her p , and a flying kiss next date all good but then comes the excuse and rejection its not as straightforward as u think i saw u wrote that you can make her come towards u , i did that as well on the 1st date and she shifted towards me when i withdrew from her just saying its complicated and not set in stone
/r/seduction20/05/26 10:59 AM
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she can still flake on the 2nd date . i disagree . women can be receptive to u on the date and u can even makeout on the 1st date and then she doesnt wanna meet there is no woman who is permanently receptive unless she crushed on u as a teen
/r/seduction20/05/26 10:47 AM
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i am more of a Alan Roger Currie follower , the Mode one style just saying because u speak russian , check out this guy called bayneframe on youtube he has some interesting ideas and his approach style is perfect if u are not smooth
/r/seduction19/05/26 03:44 PM
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can u enlighten me more about ur david X style ?
/r/seduction19/05/26 08:32 AM
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bro if u have any wisdom to share , please do tell me . fellow south asian here i am not crazy about hookups but do wanna try
/r/seduction15/05/26 04:00 AM
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good post
/r/seduction13/05/26 11:16 AM
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so what ? do u think all french women will collectively hate it ? i know for sure that women like to be approached and yes ** by the right guy *** there is always a girl who will think u are the right guy ..so stop these self limiting thoughts and face those fears i am from a huge south asian country ( u know ) and younger than u . my country is overall conservative and i have never been cancelled and i have done it a 100 times now . dont do anything extreme , just say hi , compliment , just get…
/r/seduction13/05/26 10:33 AM
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if i were in ur place i would learn to be more direct and straightforward and do daygame . unless u do something extreme , u will never be cancelled for just approaching
/r/seduction12/05/26 04:20 PM
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then thats not even cold approach , thats like meeting a girl at house party and talking to her thats indirect and often starts off as a polite friendly talk yeah u easily get numbers after a lot of entertaining talk , well she wont flake here but u gotta somehow make ur intentions clear because see it as " of hes friendly " so if i meet a girl in house party, i would still be direct as early as possible
/r/seduction09/05/26 03:31 AM
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i dont know how many cold approaches you have done ..but often women who seem receptive to you during the approach will ghost u and sometimes the one who didnt engage much will show up on the text . so you are better of not unnecessary rizzing , she know why u approached and u are not there to entertain her with witty lines you have created enough tension just by cold approaching and stating your intentions..rest the woman decides if u see all daygame infields .. PUAs rizz and the woman shows a …
/r/seduction08/05/26 02:41 AM
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i am of the opinion , u cannot force that attraction or desire ..its not a buildable thing i have tried many time building and sometimes it worked and whenever it worked , it was not because of me building it , it was already created,i was just taking credit for it the best u can do is cold approach and get contact .. everything else is extra fluff that doesnt do shit
/r/seduction07/05/26 05:00 AM
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fair enough as always i am not too bothered by it ..i am learning was just wondering if everyone has so much flaking
/r/seduction06/05/26 07:15 AM
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like i dont hide that i am here for just casual stuff or sometimes i just accept that i daygame and yeah so i am gonna withhold some info.. but i just cant lie
/r/seduction06/05/26 06:56 AM
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its more like strong and fading and thats because i am quite honest and transparent so ..i dont keep things cryptic and i might some power there but am working on it as for the looks , i have been called cute and hot sometimes..i think i am ok
/r/seduction06/05/26 06:52 AM
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well i did not have the same exp.. igot a polite rejection from a woman who i had an insta date for 1.5 hrs in a bookshop i have gotten dates just by complimenting ,minor small talk and giving my whatsapp and women texting me . i am realising you probably dont need to rizz,force rapport , tease, touch, entertain, or even setup a date during the approaach . the more normal,socially awkward and lazy without any skill ,its better . she might still flake but its definitely not because u didnt rizz h…
/r/seduction06/05/26 04:02 AM
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never pestered a girl unless she says " i dont give my number like that " so i would argue that its not a big deal nowadays i would rarely persist andmaybe give my number
/r/seduction06/05/26 03:59 AM
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yeah he claims that his approach is basic because you need to just act normal and genuine. i kinda agree with him on that as long as u escape the friendzone by stating ur intent i think this is lazy and nonchalant game and it might work because a top tier guy with abundance will be lazy and wont work hard ( rizz) to attract the girl i think girls are used to men working hard to convince them so if a guy pops up and is direct and is not actively trying hard..it could work ... i personally have go…
/r/seduction02/05/26 11:45 AM
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well it didnt asnwer my claim that cajun is running a script but i understand what u say is valid , i dont really think guys goes to night clubs to find their next serious partner . also just to keep things frank..most guys are just there evaluating a womans beauty/ hotness infact without a pretty face , a guy wouldnt even bother approaching so your line " Wow you are absolutely gorgeous , who are you " is a totally honest valid line and if the girl says " you are shallow if u only find me prett…
/r/seduction27/04/26 02:47 PM
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yeah i agree with that ..but cajun atleast in the show was actively misleading the woman with his sister line . and doing that in a club where men and women come together to approach just makes things look " why woud he say that ..is he not into me " this confuses them and makes them wanna win u over ..and once they get ur validation..they see all the games and nobody likes to be tricked
/r/seduction27/04/26 11:53 AM
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i am sure with soo much exp , he has developed that inner level of indifference but in my opinion he is gaming hard when he could have just been straightforward and a bit audacious
/r/seduction27/04/26 11:06 AM
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its better to have verbal evidence of making ur intentions clear because replying on assumptions opens doors for your time getting wasted. she might just show up and say " oh i thought u wanted to hangout with me " lets say its hot summer , u need water to survive , not icecream. you are told to convince another person to give you water or icecream. now u badly need water thus u will "game " the system hard to get water but you will simply ask for icecream and if u didnt get it ..better luck nex…
/r/seduction27/04/26 09:40 AM
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well even if u win like that , i wonder how ones feel good about yourself . yeah u got her number and when u meet up , u have to clarify your intentions because you used a stupid sister line i would rather improvise at every moment depending on the context and have a foundation of being forward and indifferent. you are trying to extract a desired response from an another human, there are too many variables that u cant control but these coaches make us feel its a controllable system.
/r/seduction27/04/26 09:03 AM
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yeah i guess in the early 2000s it was developed ...but its an unsustainable set of behaviors that you cant pull of long term , so even if he gets the number , chances are the girl thinks he just wanted to be friends
/r/seduction27/04/26 05:56 AM
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hey i am not sure what stunned you by the game . if u want to learn old school pickup , yeah he did a great job , but i find this type of pickup really inauthentic and gamey . especially " i will adopt you as my sister " line ..just making them not chosen i only liked his calm and grounded demeanor and yes confidence.
/r/seduction27/04/26 05:40 AM
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well if i came across as a butthurt , maybe i should have framed my post in a better way . but i am honestly a nerd whos just trying to find answers i personally am not into hookups even if i get them but i am mostly curious why women are horny around him..thats all because its rare and needs to be studied he is a good friend
/r/seduction26/04/26 03:09 AM
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somehwhat true but majority of men barely get any reception even in college
/r/seduction26/04/26 03:02 AM
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yeah but i think his behavior is a by product of his abundance which again reeinforces his behavior i mean why would u put effort if u get things easily without work the only game he possess his using sarcasm to put people down in a funny way not really negging
/r/seduction25/04/26 05:12 PM
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i dont think so ..there are many extroverted guys but women rarely make sexual advances despite having bfs
/r/seduction25/04/26 04:09 PM
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yea he has a good network of friends and acquiantances but doesnt explain this sex appeal he has got .
/r/seduction25/04/26 03:51 PM
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i dont think so ..when we go for a stroll, he often behaves in an accomadative way ..nothing too extraordinary but dude is overall very low effort when it comes to handling women
/r/seduction25/04/26 03:49 PM
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yeah i rarely resent rejections ..only if she doesnt text despite us having amazing chemistry . i dont ask for numbers , i give them fine.
/r/seduction24/04/26 03:52 AM
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if all the girls were like u, it would make me feel like casanova
/r/seduction24/04/26 03:50 AM
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i agree slowly i am realising that just being forward and ability to carry on conversations is more than enough. all my success from cold approach that led to a date didnt involve me doing something wildly different from the rejections . infact some of my gamey approaches led to rejections and sometimes even just a neutral conversation by making intentions clear ( u are cute ) was enough to get a date
/r/seduction23/04/26 03:01 PM
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koi nahi bhai
/r/seduction23/04/26 02:49 PM
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huh? u mean cold approached ?
/r/seduction23/04/26 11:17 AM
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thanks mate
/r/seduction23/04/26 08:41 AM
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atleast for me , cold approach has gotten me more dates in a year than any app. ( almost every month 1 date) it overall made me super non needy and also developed a thick skin . i also believe having very low effort accounts on dating apps and only swiping enough for the algorithm to understand ur taste after that swipe only if u have nothing to do . but its mostly a waste of time .
/r/seduction23/04/26 08:16 AM
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its not most guys do but what most guys have to do . most guys dont even approach even if the woman gives signals warm approaches are lot easier but they are extremely rare .so ur volume overall drops drastically so the overall conclusion would be cold approaches have a very weak success rate but still better than apps i guess of the average guy
/r/seduction23/04/26 08:03 AM
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if we are talking about cold approaches , out of all three scenarios blind cold approach happens virtually all the time and no i setup a date and then exchange contacts . insta dates happen but are rare. i am only asking for normal dates ( that people setup after texting or to setup logistics) not insta dates
/r/seduction23/04/26 07:29 AM
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yeah 2-3 dates out of 10 approaches is solid. i agree i am not yet there but i am doing okay i guess.
/r/seduction23/04/26 04:05 AM
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thanks , your results actually improved ! did u do anything different or you became more habituated and less stressed ?
/r/seduction23/04/26 03:38 AM
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ok most people on the street dont have that kind of time. just like u said i have had approaches where we walked for 10-15 min , she replied to my texts but was not interested to meet. i am usually doing an intense 5-6 min approach with strong nonverbals, intent , charm , touch etc
/r/seduction08/04/26 03:16 AM
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you dont need to socialise but go on long walks through the city or roam aorund in bookshops or musuems or even libraries , huge grocery shops, ikea etc and start daygaming just talk to her , have a 5-7 min convo where you create depth, familiarity, comfort , humor a statement of direct intent ( find u cute) and make plans to meet and give her ur contact. if interested she will reply.
/r/seduction06/04/26 06:17 AM
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do you mean advanced daygamers have a very high success rate ? i dk man i get like 1 date in 25 approaches lol ..but i get numbers almost one third of the time. but daygame is not that time consuming , all my approaches take max 7 min also i am quite selective so i approach like 1 in 25-30 women i see on the street so my volume is pretty low and the bar is high
/r/seduction04/04/26 06:11 PM
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thanks your 1st point is super valid . and yes direct daygame makes things crystal clear and on my dates the tension is quite high ( havey flirting, sexual innuendos) but i also signal her.. i am open to building something real , long term.
/r/seduction04/04/26 05:22 AM
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its very context based ..its expressing desire and your sexuality in an overly invested way. whenever you do , do it with audacity , assertiveness , boldness and confidence. also make sure you have enough social intelligence to understand when to increase the heat
/r/seduction01/04/26 10:42 AM
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bro read up on dismissive attachment ..this sounds classic DA behavior . they tend to withdraw..its probably got nothing to do with u
/r/seduction31/03/26 03:05 AM
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classic day games usually involves bold strong expression of desire . either you start of with a cold read or an observational opener or just start " i am here because u are attractive to me " also no snacks on ur first date
/r/seduction29/03/26 12:40 PM
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idk how thats possible..if its a daygame approach usually in the 1st 1minute or so your intention must be crystal clear . she can only friendzzone if u allow it
/r/seduction29/03/26 11:48 AM
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bro we need to talk.. same story but 150+ approaches . Dm if u wanna connect
/r/seduction23/03/26 04:31 PM
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yup i just wanted to read his book apparently also considered very effective
/r/seduction23/03/26 06:33 AM
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yeah thanks i have read the preface and it seemed his method is more like Shotgun approach, he even prefers instadates over numbers in cold approach
/r/seduction22/03/26 11:55 AM
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Curries philosophy is the direct approach , take it or leave it mantra so if a girl is not giving you a clear answer, you just leave her alone and go for the next . this will not only build your experience, keep your spine erect and also is more likely to get you a girl enthusiatic about you . genius
/r/seduction20/03/26 06:58 AM
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your points are correct. i just wonder why is no one reading the works of Alan Roger Currie, he is the only dating coach who has an entire book on timewasters. if you read his works, sure you will get rejected many times , but you would have spoken to 20 girls in a month than a guy whos stuck with 3 girls with no clarity. highly recommed reading " The possibility of Sex" by him
/r/seduction20/03/26 04:53 AM
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so i had 85+ rejections in a year a bit short of 100.
/r/seduction20/03/26 03:38 AM
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so have you ever pur your ego on the line and complimented a girl and asked her out ? i would suggest going direct and learning to grow a thick skin. remembers the best players have the highest rejections and also higher success becoz their volume is high
/r/seduction20/03/26 03:15 AM
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yeah i have been thinking of that as well. someone suggested me that to avoid flakes , i should rather talk more about my life to the girl passionately . idk ..will try lol
/r/seduction18/03/26 03:38 PM
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appreciate it
/r/seduction17/03/26 09:52 AM
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beautfiful ! also teach us if you are free!
/r/seduction17/03/26 09:43 AM
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very happy to see someone in the community appreciating Mode one . I live and breathe that philsosophy ( happy tears)
/r/seduction17/03/26 09:40 AM
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i get your point , but girls are really moody , i have met women decsribing how they initially were unsure about their boyfriends but after some time find him attractive . thanks for the advice
/r/seduction17/03/26 09:33 AM
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hey ..you are right ..all the books are like atleast a decade old , they definitely led the foundation of whom i am , but times have changed all these books say you cant attract all women and Mode one even says reciprocators are rare. have you ever read mode one ?
/r/seduction17/03/26 09:29 AM
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you are absolutely on point there , every its not a good yes its a NO in some or the other way. the advice is good . appreciate it i knew very well the woman from yesterday is not interested but hey if u give your number, you never know maybe she has a change in the mood
/r/seduction17/03/26 09:24 AM
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fair enough , guess i am just jumping from one extreme ( timid, friendzoned ) to another super ballsy
/r/seduction17/03/26 09:07 AM
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the two girls with whom i met , said they am free and not really doing anythong and every other girl who flaked has given an excuse ( going out for a trip), maybe , a tiny category of women also reschedule and agree to meet but never reply to my first text. they straight up lie yesterday i asked if she wants to walk around in the neighborhood and she said " i dont mind " but refused to give me her number and wanted insta i dont use social media , so i gave her my number. she never texted back
/r/seduction17/03/26 09:05 AM
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wont lie only metup with 2 girls and almost got like 11 numbers flaking . i also wanna say , i am not in europe or US , i am in India , its a different dynamic. i have done daygame in germany and have also gotten an instadate ..so idk whats wrong
/r/seduction17/03/26 08:57 AM
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oh no maybe i didnt clarify ,i always ask what she is doing on a weekend evening and then go for the number. i have rarely gone for the " can i get your number " directly
/r/seduction17/03/26 08:51 AM
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i agree with u ..and i am not sure in my 5-7 minute interaction, how much intense emotions you can pack in there . often i am on a stroll around the neighborhood , so i walk with her if she is heading home or to the bus ( 5-10 min) i do not want to go too intense because i am on the street and some discomfort on the face of the woman is enough for nearby men to get alarmed or show concern. just yeesterday a cute working woman in office clothing was walking to catch a bus, i approached, complimen…
/r/seduction17/03/26 08:26 AM
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thanks a lot, i never had the confidence to even compliment and after my transformation , i approach girls, tell them i find them attractive/cute/ sweet and genuinely would regret if i didnt approach. then i exchange pleasantries and get to know her , what is she studying/working, does she live nearby, name , age, slight flirtation i figure out a way to hold her hand , comment on it and even say something corny which makes her giggle if she is playing back, i add a sexual inneundo and have them …
/r/seduction17/03/26 05:36 AM
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can you be a bit more specific ? u want me to decrease the flirting and keep talking neutral and less polarising stuff ? i am big on making my intentions clear from the get go and based on her receptivity just amp up the tension. if she is very shy , i will keep it neutral mostly but if she is receptive and playing the game back, i increase the heat .
/r/seduction17/03/26 05:19 AM
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written with a lot of clarity
/r/seduction17/03/26 05:07 AM
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Mode ons is not for everyone , its my favourite book but its ideas are quite polarising.
/r/seduction17/03/26 05:06 AM
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this line atleast gets you a smile lol " Hey, do you always have to look this cute ?"
/r/seduction11/03/26 04:44 PM
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i am so happy for you mate, keep going ! take baby steps dont do highly risky stuff as the consequences might demotivate you
/r/seduction09/03/26 04:01 AM
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i agree man ..you know you have reached peak performance if you can get an insta data after just meeting a girl on the street its all about how you smoothly create (sexual innuendo) and release tension ( humour). in the beginning you would be choppy .like an person trying on roller skates ..keep going and you start skating and stopping with ease . only when you are decent, you can escalate tension ( skate like an athlete)
/r/seduction07/03/26 07:14 AM
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see rejection more like " it wont work out between us " than " i dont wanna date you " you take yourself too seriously , you think they rejected you because you didnt approach well. i have had a few success without me doing anything special or anything to call amazing game, so chin up and onto the next beauty ! everyday is a new restart
/r/seduction26/02/26 02:35 AM
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the emotional engagement or rapport part is recommended for relationships but for casual stuff , you can be even more forthright and sexual right from the get go . this might sound weird but having the ability to create emotional engagement doesn't necessarily mean she feels horny for u. you become more of her entertainment. the less u offer it and more sexually forthright you are , chances are you will get what u want
/r/seduction21/02/26 06:11 AM
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i had the same intuition after doing lots of approaches . dont let ur brain think, it brings all the paralysis . just act and its fine to fail , we all fail everyday the moment ur heart skips a beat after seeing the woman , u just need to scan for a few seconds if she has a bf . its okay to approach if she has friends, family, headphones , on the phone the worst is u get slapped , accept it
/r/seduction09/02/26 07:47 AM
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i think you should do those things regardless i am of the opinion that attracting woman is a skill just like coding or learning a guitar you need to constantly practice talking , flirting, experimenting with escalation, higher volume and facing enormous amounts of rejection your brain identifies patterns subconciously and your anxiety will drop , you will start sounding like u are sure of urself and women like that
/r/seduction05/02/26 04:14 PM
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long term mate selection and short term mate selection involve different strategies younger women who are in no hurry for marriage just go for men that other young girls of her age prefer ( good looking, tall , ambitious, fun to be around ) older women ( reaching 30s) just want a trustable and reliable guy who has his life in order and doesnt seem insecure , is open to serious stuff and would make a good dad. looks are optional here more like cherry on the cake.
/r/seduction05/02/26 03:21 PM
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wow the last time a woman did this to me in a bus and i genuinely felt a chill down my spine because the smile was very creepy almost with a malicious intent .
/r/seduction05/02/26 05:28 AM
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i would just add the fact that rejection is not always because you were not attractive enough . instead of doubting you own attraction, you should reframe it as " she is looking for something else , glad i asked and saved my time" it is better to arrive at a mutual contract and then invest your time thus making day game superior over get togethers and even night clubs or apps because daygame forces you to get to the point quickly
/r/seduction25/01/26 08:36 AM
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Rule 1: who cares what she thinks
/r/seduction18/01/26 01:11 PM
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Next time be more direct and compliment her and ask for drinks /coffee whatever None of this drama will happen if u keep intentions clear Also better to ask her out in person than text
/r/seduction17/01/26 09:01 PM
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So once i cold approached a girl and we were heading to the same building I asked her why is she going there and she said " to meet a friend " Now before we part ways i decided to clearly state i wanna take her out as she is cute And suddenly a guy down the stairs to pick her up and she murmurs to me " thats my bf " with tense eyes Its messed up
/r/seduction13/01/26 12:40 PM
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I have had that occasionally and some even lie that their bf if their friend
/r/seduction13/01/26 12:17 PM
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So thanks that gives me some perspective. So do u think its all about identifying women who have some level of interest and amplifying that interest 10 fold right? But i agree a woman who is not interested will not really turn around. I assume you might have reached that stage How indirect and direct are you ? Do u prefer subcommunicating through non verbals or prefer verbal assertiveness Do u flirt in a subtle way or pretty direct way?
/r/seduction13/01/26 07:15 AM
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So ur advice is to be direct but vague ? Enlighten me more pls? I try my best to speak my mind..if she is hot..i will call her hot..i wont come up with a line to capitalise on plausible deniability
/r/seduction11/01/26 07:21 PM
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Idk man..you sound like rejection is bad.. Remember these indirect tricks u are playing will open doors for women who just want you for attention In essence u try to trick and they will trick u even better. Indirect can help u make her insecure and chase u but thats not attraction . Direct will make sure u wont get tricked and filter only the ones who are really into u. Yes u will get rejected a lot but thats really beneficial Indian here
/r/seduction11/01/26 07:11 PM
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Dude as long as u approached and asked her out its a success Nobody in the world can control someone elses behavior U can do ur 50% rest let the pieces fall into their place. Also those rejection are ehat makes u wanna approach more women confjdently coz u aint scared of rejection coz u get it most times Cold approach is the best way to make a fragil ego to a strong one A very important component that makes u non needy
/r/seduction11/01/26 07:05 AM
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start waking towards them the moment u feel the attraction. dont give ur brain time to think and u will improvise.
/r/seduction10/01/26 09:48 PM
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most guys are not actively working on their game so by your logic they must be getting laid right ? it doesnt work like that ..consider yourself lucky most guys remain unnoticed until they glow up or actively make moves without sounding too eager
/r/seduction10/01/26 07:28 PM
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Whats wrong in cold approach?
/r/seduction10/01/26 12:55 PM
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If i may ask..what have u learned? What advice will u give an inecperienced bud? Stay direct or indirect? I am running very direct game
/r/seduction09/01/26 09:52 PM
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Wow mine is 1 in 80 😂 so far
/r/seduction09/01/26 09:48 PM
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Step one is to approach and start a convo with a stranger
/r/seduction09/01/26 09:43 PM
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This is a good post But a huge requirement is that you are spontaneous when u do this , u gotta be witty Seduction ultimately is a power play
/r/seduction08/01/26 12:08 PM
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shamelessness
/r/seduction07/01/26 11:56 AM
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Idk which girls are these but seems like its going good for u
/r/seduction06/01/26 07:30 AM
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Yeah u are right..but chances are u will meet a lot of flakey and women who waste ur time unless u call it a date And lastly as per mode one just for casual sex no rapport or dating is required U meet the girl and straight up " find u hot when are we exchanging orgasms"
/r/seduction05/01/26 10:53 PM
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Umm there is this old concept in direct dating called Mode one behavior But depending on ur needs be it casual sex or relationship u need to make it clear to the woman the 1st time u meet her and in an upfront manner like within 1st 5 min No beating around thr bush, no lying cheating , overcomplimenting , just radical honesty in a smooth manner with highly confident demeanor I personally think its designed for casual sex but for relatiosnhips a mix of indirect and direct is needed Direct to weed…
/r/seduction05/01/26 09:53 PM
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The numbers look right..indian guy same story but i do more direct verbal and overrly forward game
/r/seduction05/01/26 09:30 PM
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actually date her and see if she is a pain in the ass or nice to be around . based on that decide if i wanna pursue something serious.
/r/seduction29/12/25 10:10 AM
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Damn do u really do that ? Do u follow mode one behavior?
/r/seduction28/12/25 07:32 AM
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You are right buddy..its just i end up talking about irrelevant but entertaining funny stuff I dont like to tease, playfully insult anyone and guess i shd work on that Once i did it and ended up roasting her to the point that recovery was hard. Its hard for me to play subtle
/r/seduction27/12/25 09:01 AM
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Got it.. but i have to say indirect is harder than direct I am used to being super direct abd sometimes it works
/r/seduction27/12/25 07:45 AM
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Yeah i realised the whole world does it but there is also the problem of being friendzoned
/r/seduction27/12/25 07:35 AM
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Ok
/r/seduction26/12/25 08:24 PM
1

So u mean advanced players are more dishonest ?
/r/seduction26/12/25 08:07 PM
1

I also think ..the same i have had women with boyfriends who like to annoy me
/r/seduction26/12/25 08:06 PM
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Long live mode one behavior
/r/seduction26/12/25 07:02 PM
1

What do u know about him as i follow his style of approach
/r/seduction25/12/25 09:57 PM
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Just pure neediness . Lets say you went upto her and said something..things got awkward and u left. So what? The girl might think about ot max for 4 -5 min and maybr tell her friend ..end of story . Atleast you wont regret never talking to her The fact that you cold approached someone makes u vulnerable to rejection. If done well..she will respect your approach
/r/seduction17/12/25 07:16 PM
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Ok i do get your point but all i am saying she shd know its all about hookup from the very start
/r/seduction17/12/25 09:41 AM
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What connection are you trying to build by yapping to each other if u just wanna hookup. Just meet at each others place and get it done You are wasting ur time even by going on a date. She has to become horny for u ..u dont need to knoe about her career goals for that
/r/seduction17/12/25 08:43 AM
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Stop going on dates if u just wanna hookup
/r/seduction17/12/25 08:35 AM
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Can i pm?
/r/seduction16/12/25 09:07 AM
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If u are not interested in her , show u are getting annoyed and , you will notice that the teasing will decrease and u can work in peace . If u also like her.. i would actually outwit her by clever comebacks and playfully pull her leg . This flips the dynamic and now its her who gets annoyed. Ignoring her or chnging the topic will increase the teasing
/r/seduction15/12/25 11:31 PM
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Your inner game is literally how seriously you take yourself relative how seriously you take the girl. For me my inner game drastically improved by reading Models and Mode one. both books taught me to become a ballsy unapologetic direct man. I have gotten more rejections than any person in my social circle..i have done ballsy stuff, sometimes offended people but i also had the most dates in my life. Lastly everything was done honestly no lying , no pretending , no misleading anyone just radical …
/r/seduction15/12/25 10:40 PM
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You dont need to overly focus on them. You need to attach ur ego to ur character and what potential u have and u sorta need to be convinced In short your mindset and behavior should be like a 21 yr old hot blond girl. She is super sure she has options and is attractive. It ususlly comes with exp
/r/seduction14/12/25 05:21 PM
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If by " just be you" you think i dont need to put any work or make any moves then nothings gonna happen. The just be you is often said to people who perform abd create a false facade to impress women. They dont feel fulfilled later as they are acting. You need to start showing behaviors which subcommunicate lack of desperation and abundance of options. This is the new you..there is no performance here. That transformation comes from past experiences for which you need to make moves in an outcome…
/r/seduction14/12/25 12:15 PM
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Bro i am desi ..pls dont consume the mainstream ideas out there for getting into relationships from media or even ur parents. You need to get some theory and start noticing what women respond and not what they say what they want. Our social programming keeps us timid nice guys and those who really deprogram their mindset start seeing improvement. You need to also do it under an authentic and ethical framework if you have self respect and balls. By that i mean dont lie or cheat to get what u want…
/r/seduction13/12/25 02:32 PM
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During the first time u met , did u ever state your interest or ask her out audaciously? Use some stupid line.." look we both are into books , we shd date as we are compatible " lol Then if she gives u her number , its less likely to be flakey Looks like u just kept talking about books ...without flirting or teasing or whatever For now..there is not much you can do...just leave her alone and go for the next woman.
/r/seduction13/12/25 06:50 AM
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Well we are sort of trained to be okay if someone thinks we are creepy. They are subjective labels people put . Some love the direct boldness , some just get overwhelmed The indirect is say way too slow and ineffective and kills a lot of time and is just fake
/r/seduction08/12/25 09:58 PM
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I know but i flirt in a very obvious direct way..its not subtle and i get dirty pretty quick
/r/seduction08/12/25 09:55 PM
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Some sort of reciprication or stright up rejection. I have done this before and they tend to kinda blush and i get their numbers quick
/r/seduction08/12/25 09:54 PM
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And how would u flirt? I personally find it hard to flirt after i do small talk and it feels forced. Thats ehy started being straightforward and honest
/r/seduction08/12/25 09:52 PM
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Well what would u have done if u wanna let your intentions be known honestly
/r/seduction08/12/25 09:49 PM
1

Are you saying i should be pleasantly phony? Like fake small talk when my real thoughts are " damn she is hot "
/r/seduction08/12/25 09:46 PM
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But i think it was a direct provocative opener and i dont wanna lie saying she looks beautiful. I dont like sugar-coating. She was hot and i told her i found her hot.
/r/seduction08/12/25 09:39 PM
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What do u mean i am confused 😅😂
/r/seduction08/12/25 09:10 PM
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from my side all i can suggest is reading a book called Attached read it throughly and identify whether you are DA, AP or secure or FA based on that whenever you show attachment related problems, reflect back on what you did and try to avoid it showing secure behavior will be uncomfortable and scary at first or maybe even not stimulating enough but dont be hard on youself baby steps into discomfort and patience and you will see improvement
/r/seduction08/12/25 02:17 PM
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nobody needs to respond right away. our relationships with our partners often mirror how our parents treated us. inconsistent and conditional attention and care makes the baby/child affects how desirable and lovable ths child feels and it sort of acts clingy or distant depending on the dynamic these people grow up and seek the same familiar pattern of love so when a guy suddenly withdraws . these people think take the blame on themselves and show more interest and sound desperate. secure people …
/r/seduction08/12/25 10:21 AM
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if you just wanna smash , go for it but dont lie or hurt anyone try to meet her in person and let her know you wanna just smash in person , dont sound ashamed .
/r/seduction08/12/25 10:07 AM
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she is not seeking you , she is seeking validation from you. when you play cold , they think they are not desirable enough so they overinvest in u. consistent attention to them is needy and low status.
/r/seduction08/12/25 10:01 AM
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yeah i have approached older women and complimented them and they have told me to keep doing it as much as possible
/r/seduction02/12/25 04:08 PM
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hi you are doing very good , can you go a bit on depth with the push and pull part ? what do you exactly do there ?
/r/seduction02/12/25 11:30 AM
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Yes its not illegal but just not considered classy or gentlemanlike
/r/seduction30/11/25 08:41 AM
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He talks about the investment paradox and how vulnerability solves the problem. Truly confident men will often act like a luxury car salesman. They know they sell luxury cars , they know whoever rejects buying their cars doesnt lower the cars value. The customer is looking for something else Just like that when u are selling yourself. Have healthy levels of entitlement and it will come off through ur behavior . Be calm, have direct eye contact and a tiny smirk. Learn to have good comebacks , be …
/r/seduction30/11/25 08:35 AM
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Lovely post ..would love to know your thoughts about being ultra direct Have you heard of mode one style behavior?
/r/seduction29/11/25 10:18 PM
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This is all written in Models
/r/seduction20/08/25 08:20 PM
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I am more worried about your asshole friend. He has to put up with a clingy or suffocating girl just to get laid. What a sad state of affairs.
/r/seduction20/08/25 08:14 PM
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She can still view that as a friendly hangout . Pls atleast compliment her to escape the friendzone
/r/seduction03/06/25 07:05 PM
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