~ archived since 2018 ~
~ archived since 2018 ~
| Upvotes | Comment on | Subreddit | Date (UTC) |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2 | Feminism: it's always rights for women and responsibilities for men.I understand that. My point simply was that if women have all the control over gestation, it follows that they have control over whether the fetus becomes a child, and it should naturally follow that they should be held liable for the liabilities associated with gestation. If artificial gestation became possible, and the connection between gestation and parenthood were severed, then you would have a point, and men would morally be forced into parenthood after fertilization. But as long as gestat… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/16 11:54 PM |
| 62 | Feminism: it's always rights for women and responsibilities for men.And the simple response to that is that if it's your body and your choice, it should be your responsibility and not someone else's. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/16 06:38 AM |
| 2 | So the MSM is telling us women are better coders huh?The article summed everything up nicely: So, let’s review. A non-peer-reviewed paper shows that women get more requests accepted than men. In one subgroup, unblinding gender gives women a bigger advantage; in another subgroup, unblinding gender gives men a bigger advantage. When gender is unblinded, both men and women do worse; it’s unclear if there are statistically significant differences in this regard. Only one of the study’s subgroups showed lower acceptance for women than men, and the size… | /r/MensRights | 16/02/16 08:03 AM |
| 10 | A debate tactic I'm gettin' real sick of.Start ACTUALLY caring about Men's Rights and stop complaining about how Feminism isn't doing your job for you. Feminist ideology, in theory and in practice, directly contradicts Men's Rights ideology. You see it on Reddit, on Youtube, on Jezebel, in Gender Studies courses, and especially at the University of Toronto; feminists in general tend to use female oppression as a crutch to demand preferential government programs, shut down discussion of men's issues, and mock men's rights advocates as a… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/14 03:08 AM |
| 16 | A debate tactic I'm gettin' real sick of.In order to show that those statistics prove female oppression, you need to compare it to: How often men get raped. How often men are victims of crimes in general How happy men are compared to women How often bad things happen to men vs women (i.e. homelessness, starvation, etc). As the OP said, those statistics only prove that bad things happen to women sometimes. It doesn't necessarily prove that men systematically oppress women. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/14 02:33 AM |
| 1 | CNN leads college rape article with woman who claims to have been raped by boyfriend of three years after breaking up who 'pressured her.'She seems to be alleging that she didn't want sex and he would pressurise her into having sex she didn't want to have psychological and physically and that this was a regular, normalised feature of the relationship that she was in denial about. We can't prove that either way, so its retarded to try. Question for you- if person A is unhappy about the lack of sex in his/her relationship with person B, and person B has sex with person A to try to save the relationship (even if she didn't really wan… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/14 03:19 AM |
| 2 | Positive pregnancy tests for sale - so you can trick your man into marrying you! And then fake a miscarriage.I read it. It was, in fact, an interesting read. The law will support the man for monetary reimbursements and divorce settlements, but the law still won't support a man if the woman actually does become pregnant through fraud, and needs child support money. Point is, no matter how much trust we put in women, we still need to wear condoms to protect against pregnancy and STDs. | /r/MensRights | 06/01/14 07:39 AM |
| 3 | Positive pregnancy tests for sale - so you can trick your man into marrying you! And then fake a miscarriage.Problem is that there's no legal or moral penalty for someone breaking our trust. How often do people get married, trusting that their partner will do everything in their power to make the relationship work? How often does that result in nasty divorces? I remember reading about research that shows that we always underestimate how much we'll change in 10 years. This is a similar case; there should be no reason to trust someone over such a long period of time if there are no legal repercussions fo… | /r/MensRights | 06/01/14 01:43 AM |
| 6 | Positive pregnancy tests for sale - so you can trick your man into marrying you! And then fake a miscarriage.Schrodinger's rapist? The point is that if women have a natural biological urge to become mothers, and if the federal government supports their right to become mothers over a man's right to not be forced into fatherhood, then it makes sense to take precautionary measures. | /r/MensRights | 06/01/14 12:15 AM |
| 2 | Because male privilege, right?Dude, the bottom line people are trying to get across is that when you apply a linear regression model to prison sentencing and control for socioeconomic class, education level, etc., being male entails a larger penalty in the justice system than being black. There's much to be discussed with regards to how well a linear regression model actually accounts for extraneous factors like intent or past criminal offenses, but the fact remains that from the perspective of the criminal justice system, i… | /r/MensRights | 21/12/13 08:06 AM |
| 0 | Essentially how it goes.But the cost of raising a child isn't paid by the insurance companies. Furthermore, your assumptions only work if 100% of the population is having sex regularly, would not use any sort of protection (condoms, abstinence, etc.) without birth control, would not get an abortion if they did not have that child, and would use birth control 100% accurately if it were paid for (if they miss a single day of taking the pills, then the pills are about as good as tic tacs). If 100 million people would take… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/13 04:53 AM |
| -1 | Essentially how it goes.The insurance company has to pay not only for the pregnancy checks and the birth, but also for all of the child's doctor visits for the next 18 years. But people with children pay higher premiums on their insurance, so all that pays for itself anyway. If we assume that 1% of the population gets an accidental pregnancy every 5 years (and chooses to give birth rather than abort... and would be able to use birth control correctly and responsibly if it were given to them for free), and birth control… | /r/MensRights | 11/11/13 08:50 PM |
| 2 | Essentially how it goes.It's cheaper to prevent a pregnancy than support the long-term welfare of a poorly managed brood But the cost of a single month of birth control doesn't necessarily replace the cost of raising a child. People who don't want children can use 25 cent condoms to not get pregnant; people who want children won't use birth control, and people who are too irresponsible to use condoms correctly will probably use birth control pills incorrectly. | /r/MensRights | 11/11/13 08:45 PM |
| 0 | Essentially how it goes.I would rather the government pay out on birth control and cut out a lot of unintended pregnancies that end up costing more over their life than the birth control would cost to avoid it Do you have the numbers to back that up? Cause that does seem rather incredulous. | /r/MensRights | 11/11/13 08:42 PM |
| -1 | Essentially how it goes.Birth control is an extremely expensive way to prevent pregnancies. | /r/MensRights | 11/11/13 08:39 PM |
| 1 | Essentially how it goes.If birth control is $100/month, and delivering a baby costs $5,000, then this isn't a worthwhile proposal unless women on average deliver a baby once every 4 years. | /r/MensRights | 11/11/13 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Nothing that comes out of a woman's mouth is important.Generalities about race are different from generalities about gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/13 01:50 AM |
| 0 | Nothing that comes out of a woman's mouth is important.Personally, I found it hilarious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/13 01:49 AM |
| 2 | Are women really more emotional than men?You can call it whatever. My point is that its more physical than emotional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/13 06:34 AM |
| 2 | Are women really more emotional than men?That's off topic for the original discussion, is it not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/13 04:26 AM |
| 1 | Are women really more emotional than men?Personal experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/13 04:25 AM |
| 2 | Are women really more emotional than men?It stimulates dopamine and oxycotin release. And it doesn't have to be addictive in order for it to stimulate emotionless pleasure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/13 04:25 AM |
| 1 | Are women really more emotional than men?"Horny" isn't an emotion, any more than an orgasm is. Loveless, emotionless sex is still sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/13 03:27 AM |
| 0 | Are women really more emotional than men?Essentially, its the differenc between being depressed and having clinical depression. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/13 02:49 AM |
| 2 | Are women really more emotional than men?Perhaps you can argue that men are more likely to become angry. Ill be on board with that. But when it comes to day-to-day decision making, I would be willing to say that masculine men are much more likely to ignore their emotions in favor of long-term thinking than feminine women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/13 02:48 AM |
| 5 | Are women really more emotional than men?Logic isnt the opposite of emotion, it's the means by which people reach their emotional or physical goals. NASA doesn't eschew logic, even though they're trying to get to space for its own sake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/13 02:42 AM |
| 2 | Are women really more emotional than men?That's all fair and good, but nobodys ever died from nicotine withdrawal either. That doesnt make cigarettes an "emotional" addiction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/13 02:39 AM |
| 0 | Red Pill and rape. What do you think? Do you agree?With both, if you lose your job, quit, or take on a lower paying job, you'll end up in jail. The state is literally forcing you to work under the threat of imprisonment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/13 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Red Pill and rape. What do you think? Do you agree?Third-degree Sexual Assault. Section 940.225 (3), Wisconsin Statutes, prohibits sexual intercourse without consent So rape and sexual intercourse without consent are two different things now? You seem to be trying to argue that because you can contractually share all your property with someone, you should also be able to contractually give them ownership of your body. Sorry, modern laws don't allow people to contract themselves into slavery. My point, actually, is that when it comes to the insti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/13 12:58 PM |
| 2 | Red Pill and rape. What do you think? Do you agree?In Wisconsin, I'm talking about theft of more than $10,000 worth of property, punishable by up to 10 years in prison, and third or fourth degree sexual assault which involves nonconsensual sex without the use of force, which are classified as misdemeanors. Wisconsin has a communal property system, where property owned by one spouse is automatically owned jointly by both spouses. The bottom line still stands- it is impossible to commit grand larceny against communal property. Marriage is a defens… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/13 12:40 PM |
| 1 | Red Pill and rape. What do you think? Do you agree?No, the question is whether the act of marriage implies the will to continually please one's partner and keep each other happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/13 11:34 AM |
| 3 | Red Pill and rape. What do you think? Do you agree?every legal system in the world acknowledges crimes against the person as worse than property crimes, and treats them thusly. Grand larceny carries a higher prison sentence than 2nd degree sexual assault (Up to 12 years for the former, vs 6 months for the latter). So why is marriage considered an acceptable defense against the former, but not an acceptable defense against the latter? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/13 11:31 AM |
| 0 | 1950s newspaper asks "Should a Woman be spanked if she needs it?". The answers are decidedly red pillBill Burr expresses this best. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/09/13 10:41 AM |
| 0 | Red Pill and rape. What do you think? Do you agree?Allow me to approach this from a different angle: Is it morally wrong for football players to consent to getting assaulted with physical force while they're playing the game? If a football player suddenly withdraws consent to getting hit during a game, should the linebacker be convicted of assault? Or is it possible for there to be pre-ordained conditions that clearly state that participating in activity X implicitly means that you're consenting to activity Y? Back to the spousal rape thing- do … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/13 08:49 AM |
| 4 | Game does not exist.Just to get this out of the way- why do you think "primacy of looks" and the existence of game are mutually exclusive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/13 06:14 AM |
| -1 | Red Pill and rape. What do you think? Do you agree?Society needs to draw the line somewhere. Does saying "yes" but meaning "no" count as rape? Is it immoral to draw the line there? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/13 06:12 AM |
| 3 | Red Pill and rape. What do you think? Do you agree?So the question is merely shifted towards whether its moral for a government to declare that marriage implies consent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/13 05:45 AM |
| 2 | Game does not exist.Is there any research that shows that women like confident men? I assume so. Is there any research that shows that women like all men as long as they "be themselves"? I assume not. Also, check out heartiste's blog, and search for the "science" tag. There is a shitload of neurobiology supporting the hypothesis that hormones affect what behavioral traits we're attracted to and our behaviors in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/13 05:40 AM |
| 1 | Game does not exist.Alright, that's a fair claim to make, but just realize that there's no research to support that conclusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/13 05:14 AM |
| 5 | Here's what I've been wondering about TRP...In my personal experience, women don't really care much about men's sexual past. If anything, for a man, having too few previous partners is a dealbreaker. Back in high school, I've been turned down for being a virgin. That's why men tend to lie on the higher side when asked about previous partners, but women tend to lie on the lower side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/13 09:14 AM |
| 5 | Game does not exist.Game does not exist Studies show that there is not a 100% correlation between having good looks and having women want to initiate a relationship. Contradiction? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/13 09:03 AM |
| 3 | Man tricks pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion pill -- Comments discuss Legal Paternal Surrender and equal male reproductive rightsThe mental gymnastics I've seen is actually pretty consistent- women are supposedly able to do anything that want with their bodies, but men can't do what they want to another person's body. Essentially, a self-inflicted abortion is a "justifiable homicide". | /r/TheRedPill | 11/09/13 11:15 AM |
| 1 | Man tricks pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion pill -- Comments discuss Legal Paternal Surrender and equal male reproductive rightsWe changed the law for Melissa Drexler, who threw her newborn baby in the dumpster on prom night. That began the stride towards Safe Haven laws. Why won't we do anything equivalent for this guy? | /r/MensRights | 11/09/13 11:13 AM |
| 5 | Man tricks pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion pill -- Comments discuss Legal Paternal Surrender and equal male reproductive rightsI'll try. Tell me exactly how much carrying a pregnancy costs, emotionally and financially, in financial terms. $1000? $2000? Courts are able to put a monetary figure on emotional and physical harm all the time; why can't men owe that amount instead of owing $200,000 in child support? | /r/MensRights | 11/09/13 11:10 AM |
| 35 | [Mod] A note about reddit and their policies. Please read.Hey guys, I'm the head mod of SRSsucks, and I put in my 2 cents about this over here. | /r/TheRedPill | 01/07/13 06:20 PM |
| 0 | Found this in Edmonton, Alberta! I was proud!Or how about we give boys more resources to help them emotionally mature and prevent such high suicide rates? How about we help end the anti-boy bias in our school system? How about we make divorce courts adopt joint custody as the default, instead of sole custody to the mother? There's no reason we should consider the sky to be falling just because some people are advocating for men to suffer less. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/13 07:11 AM |
| 2 | When Obamacare Takes Effect, Young, Healthy Men Will Be HurtAnd lower costs, which is failing to do. But health care costs are accelerating at a slower rate. The trend is definitely changing. The whole point of Obamacare is to get everyone into a health insurance pool, and to have the healthy subsidize the sick (which is what health insurance is supposed to do). If, hypothetically, men are overwhelmingly healthy, while women are overwhelmingly sick, then any insurance scheme will have men subsidizing women. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/13 06:58 AM |
| 7 | A 15 year old boy who was raped by a 34 year old woman is forced to pay child support to his aggressor.Well there's another story about a 15 year old boy paying child support to his 34 year old rapist; maybe they just changed the names around. And here are the court documents for that specific case. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/13 11:20 PM |
| 3 | Machiavelli Shows Difficulty of Rolling Back Feminist ChangeYes, the MGTOW solution of starving the system will work. The only issue is what happens when a collapse takes place, and what replaces the system? Relevant: Nihilists vs Civilizationists | /r/TheRedPill | 22/06/13 01:17 AM |
| 2 | A question for men who don't date feminists (X-Post from AskMenI would argue that Keynesian economics is valid for any economy that has laborers that are not self-sufficient (i.e. that don't grow their own food and build their own houses) and for any economy that utilizes specialization and exchange. Deriving this from first principles is something I'd be willing to do over in /r/economics. | /r/TheRedPill | 20/06/13 04:56 PM |
| 2 | A question for men who don't date feminists (X-Post from AskMenlol what? | /r/TheRedPill | 20/06/13 04:50 PM |
| 2 | A question for men who don't date feminists (X-Post from AskMenI'm Red Pill and I support Keynesian Economic Theory. Good on ya, I'm with you. But it's funny how Keynesian Economic Theory doesn't care whether we understand it or not. The historical data speaks for itself. | /r/TheRedPill | 20/06/13 04:49 PM |
| 3 | Male Virgin: Pathetic <-> Female Virgin: DesiredThe correlation is all that matters though. | /r/TheRedPill | 14/06/13 04:50 PM |
| 2 | New York Times gets it right: forced paternity in immoralThe laws will never change as long as they support women and disadvantage men. What takes the piss is that men are forced to pay way over what it takes to raise a child. I don't know, it seems like the momentum's going our way. There was even a huffington post article, written by a feminist, arguing for legal paternity surrender. | /r/TheRedPill | 14/06/13 04:47 PM |
| 4 | Study: Both men and women get self-esteem from relationships, but men more so from social standing, and women more so from companionship (xpost r/science)To answer these tricky questions, the researchers had men and women in relationships imagine a breakup. Simply, the researchers instructed people to, “Please imagine how your life would change if you were to break-up with your partner in the near future. For the next five minutes, write about whatever comes to mind. Please do not stop typing until the Experimenter cues you to stop.” What language did men and women use to describe their fears about this breakup? What were they worried about? It t… | /r/TheRedPill | 12/06/13 02:05 AM |
| 6 | Guy finds out his girlfriend of two years, who was supposedly a virgin when they met and made him wait six months for sex, has been lying about it the whole time.It's just not OK to dredge up past sexual experiences as a way to shame your partner. It's actually a form of emotional abuse. If a man did this to his girlfriend, we would all be screaming about slut shaming, and rightfully so! It's really gross behavior. [citation needed] | /r/TheRedPill | 04/06/13 01:02 PM |
| 2 | Guy finds out his girlfriend of two years, who was supposedly a virgin when they met and made him wait six months for sex, has been lying about it the whole time.Divorce rates in comparison to the total population is higher, but then again, marriage rates in comparison to the total population is higher as well. I haven't seen any figures regarding how likely a given marriage is going to get divorced, by state. | /r/TheRedPill | 04/06/13 12:44 PM |
| 5 | Matriarchy, patriarchy and the masters of the universeOn the contrary, Yahoo! CEO Marissa Mayer consistently worked 90 hour weeks. She briefly popped out a baby, waived maternity leave, and kept on working. It's quite possible for women to work in the top echelons of finance/society, but many just don't realize how much sacrifice is required to "have it all". To quote C. Montgomery Burns: Family, religion, friendship. These are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in business | /r/TheRedPill | 04/06/13 06:54 AM |
| 1 | Time Magazine: The End of Alimony. Sometimes nowadays, women pay alimony. And they're super pissed off.IMO alimony was the beginning of the end of marriage. It let women get lazy because if their husband divorces them they still get his paycheck. Before alimony women had to actually put effort into keeping their husbands interested. Actually, Roissy argues that the pill was what caused the end of marriage. Alimony was just something that was needed to deal with the super-high divorce rate. | /r/TheRedPill | 31/05/13 06:05 AM |
| 2 | The Atlantic: When Men Experience Sexismwomen want men to see them only in ways they wish to be seen. This is also one facet of what they accomplish with rape hysteria - think about the deep implication of the "teach men not to rape" meme. But ultimately, the "cozying up" we've been seeing on the political front is a tactical retreat. They hope (my cynical heart highly suspects) to continue attempts to influence our self-perception - which is the far more powerful gambit, in it's way. Or feminists want to just downright brainwash men … | /r/TheRedPill | 30/05/13 11:47 AM |
| 5 | The Atlantic: When Men Experience SexismIt's actually hilarious; I've kept up with the feminist movement via /r/SRSsucks, /r/Game0fdolls, /r/TumblrInAction, /r/AgainstAtheismPlus, etc, and there was a huge turning point in the past 6 months when feminist articles tagged with "MRA" changed their tone from "Fuck you, MRAs!! All of you are hateful pieces of shit!!" to "The patriarchy hurts men, too!! You should join us!!". On one level, I can understand why they changed their tone. On another level, though, I just don't get why feminists… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/05/13 05:27 AM |
| 2 | The Atlantic: When Men Experience SexismI do agree that a lot of sexism is perpetrated by men, but it is equally perpetrated by women. Instead of blaming one gender (men or women), I believe it's more constructive to look at the way society as a whole is structured. This reminds me of two things: The Huffington Post article about a sociologist's research on how the shame that men feel in their lives come primarily from women. The recent RedPill thread when we discussed how when a woman asks you to open up and "be vulnerable", you're n… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/05/13 05:22 AM |
| 1 | The Politics of the Red PillAre you criticizing welfare or are you criticizing regulations? | /r/TheRedPill | 28/05/13 03:56 PM |
| 1 | The Politics of the Red Pill"Here, you've succeeded, so now your "reward" is to be forced to support those that didn't, or those who didn't even try." In the financial industry, that's called hedging the risk. I.e. making the risk less risky. Making the risk even more risky would result in fewer people taking risks. A welfare state leads to people who could take good risks not doing so (less reward) while those who take bad risks to do so (because they didn't make a good plan, and they have a safety net if they fail). We'v… | /r/TheRedPill | 28/05/13 03:54 PM |
| 1 | The Politics of the Red PillConfidence and risk-taking are more welcome in conservative circles, due to the constant praise of those who succeed in business and the military. But without a supplemental welfare state, conservative philosophy would actually punish risk takers. | /r/TheRedPill | 27/05/13 08:41 PM |
| 0 | A defense of NAWALT using bell curvesHeight, weight, exam scores, and virtually everything that a scientist or sociologist can measure is normally distributed. The general population is sufficiently large. One woman's hypergamy does not affect anothers, so they are independent. And just because we can't measure all the biological and sociological factors that go into determining ones hypergamy doesn't mean that the means and variances aren't well defined. As a general rule of thumb, sociologists assume that EVERYTHING is normally d… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/05/13 06:28 AM |
| 0 | Seriously, why do women receive lighter sentences than men for similar or worse offenses?But my original question was how those things would cause a gender disparity. You pointed out that there's a racial disparity and an income disparity, and you pointed out that if there's a gender disparity, then legal professionals would engage in so-called Bargaining under the Shadow of the Law, but there's not much information there with regards to why a judge would look at a person's gender and think, "I need to give him an extra hard sentence". I think that the issues I mentioned above are r… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/13 08:20 PM |
| 0 | Seriously, why do women receive lighter sentences than men for similar or worse offenses?Couple things: There are two basic interpretations of the differences based on race, gender, income, and education. The first contends that discrimination generates inappropriate disparities, which violates the USSC’s requirements that these characteristics should not affect sentences. The second refutes the discrimination claim and maintains that these differences may be appropriate, because judges observe important individual characteristics that an empirical study cannot consider. If the omitt… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/13 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Seriously, why do women receive lighter sentences than men for similar or worse offenses?You have ignored the most important aspect of what leads to lighter sentences, that would be the quality of the legal advice/representation that one receives which often comes down to a question of finances. I may have misinterpreted your summary but it would appear that you strongly believe in the current system including the incarceration of many young men for non-violent drug offences. How would those things cause the gender disparity, though? | /r/MensRights | 24/05/13 07:21 PM |
| -2 | Seriously, why do women receive lighter sentences than men for similar or worse offenses?I'm going to break the circlejerk here a little bit. Besides patriarchy/male disposability/what have you, there are other factors to take into account in a courtroom: Prior records How apologetic someone feels after committing the crime Voice tone; people with deeper voices are treated with more agency than people with higher voices More men commit crime: thus, a judge and jury will think that a higher punishment is needed to be an effective deterrent against other men vs other women There's als… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/13 06:15 PM |
| 1 | I Need Feminism Because...I might get some shit for this, but I think that actions speak louder than words. A sarcastic "No, this would be the worst thing in the world" followed by a smile and voluntarily opening one's legs should count as consent in the court of law. Really, I think that consent should be determined by behavior more than by verbal exchanges. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/13 06:00 PM |
| 1 | I Need Feminism Because...Consent is a state of mind Lost you right there. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/13 05:57 PM |
| 5 | Obama tells men to "man up" and take "personal responsibility" I am not normally Anti Obama, but this article made me want to vomit.Basic morality man, you should do things you can control. Exactly, and as long as paternal surrender is not legal, men have the right to protest being forced to care for unwanted kids. | /r/MensRights | 20/05/13 02:10 AM |
| 1 | man who allegedly tricked pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion drug charged with first-degree murder for death of fetusI'm pretty sure partial birth abortions were banned all across America by Obama. | /r/MensRights | 17/05/13 03:12 AM |
| 2 | man who allegedly tricked pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion drug charged with first-degree murder for death of fetusThat... is a surprisingly ingenious way to frame the discussion! Thanks, I'll be using that. | /r/MensRights | 17/05/13 02:13 AM |
| 2 | man who allegedly tricked pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion drug charged with first-degree murder for death of fetusHowever, let's not confuse things. Male abortion is not an issue of body autonomy, it's an issue of equal reproductive rights. I think the confusion here is that we're saying two different things. I'm saying body autonomy is a good and correct principle. Fair enough. I just feel that: The concept of bodily autonomy should not be used as an excuse to deny the idea that reproductive rights are important, and There shouldn't be any such thing as "unconditional rights". A lot of feminists argue that… | /r/MensRights | 17/05/13 01:56 AM |
| 12 | Man lives out of storage, car to pay child supportSo the idea that child support should be based off of disposable income is a stupidity/irresponsibility issue? If women and couples have trouble making ends meet, government programs are able to step in and help out. If a single man has trouble paying child support, then he's a deadbeat? What do you think of this case, in which a hard-working comedian from Canada has fled because he fears getting arrested; his income has dropped over the past 10 years, but the courts keep increasing the mandator… | /r/MensRights | 17/05/13 01:17 AM |
| 2 | man who allegedly tricked pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion drug charged with first-degree murder for death of fetusThe majority of people are against forced organ donations. There are very rare instances in which you can bite someone's finger off and not get charged with a crime. If bodily autonomy were real, then you would be legally able to bite someone's finger off even if it wasn't in self defense. The following would also be allowed if the concept of bodily autonomy were real (depending on how you define it): The bodies of criminals walking out of jail Late-term abortions Stepping on the gas pedal in a … | /r/MensRights | 17/05/13 01:12 AM |
| 11 | Man lives out of storage, car to pay child supportOh, so even if someone has to pay so much that he can't afford to live, then it's not a Men's rights issue? | /r/MensRights | 17/05/13 12:30 AM |
| 1 | man who allegedly tricked pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion drug charged with first-degree murder for death of fetusbodily autonomy That word again... Yeah, there's no legal precedent for bodily autonomy. Not in the constitution, not in any laws, not in any Supreme Court decisions. If bodily autonomy did exist, then: Criminals could just walk out of jail People could bite their dentists' fingers off while it was inside their mouths Pulling a gun trigger would just be an exercise in your finger's autonomy More directly, late trimester abortions would be legal, which they aren't. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/13 11:28 PM |
| 2 | man who allegedly tricked pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion drug charged with first-degree murder for death of fetusWhile true, this doesn't trump the bodily autonomy card. Is it murder to refuse to give a blood transfusion to your child? Is it murder to refuse to give up an organ so your child can live? It may be morally reprehensible to refuse, but I really don't think it is within the power of the government to force someone to give up parts of their body for someone else The bodily autonomy card has been trumped plenty of times. You don't have the right to bite off your dentists' finger while it's inside … | /r/MensRights | 16/05/13 11:24 PM |
| 3 | man who allegedly tricked pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion drug charged with first-degree murder for death of fetusThe mother doesn't have the right to abort a fetus after a certain point. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/13 11:20 PM |
| 3 | man who allegedly tricked pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion drug charged with first-degree murder for death of fetusIt's your body first. You don't have the right to bite off your dentist's finger just because it's inside your mouth. For the same reason you're allowed to refuse to be an organ donor, even if someone else's life depends on it. That has more to do with popular opinion than bodily autonomy. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/13 11:19 PM |
| -8 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentYour smugness makes quite a defense mechanism. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 07:39 PM |
| -1 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentOh, really quickly, if you define "bodily autonomy" as "total internal control of your body without affecting other people", then the right to abortion would not fall under that, since your decision affects a potential father and a potential child. Edit: Another quick thing: Name one philosopher that successfully argues that there are such things as "moral rights that cannot be revoked". | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 05:45 PM |
| -1 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentThere is no such thing as a right that can't be revoked. The state can put you to death, for instance, and in many cases it's justifiable. Property can be confiscated. That's not at all what is meant by the right to bodily autonomy and you know it - there's no need to be facetious. Give me a precise definition of bodily autonomy, and I'll give you examples of how it can be violated. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 05:43 PM |
| 0 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentOkay. From that point, I have to say that there is no moral right to bodily autonomy. Do the bodies of criminals have the autonomy to walk out of prison? The point is that every single right can be revoked by a court edict. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness can all be taken away from us with due process. Now, if the rights of the child override the rights of the parent, then that applies to both bodily autonomy and to financial abortions. But if the rights of the parent override the ri… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 05:31 PM |
| -1 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentExplain to me logically how I misunderstood the Thomson article. My argument is that if the rights of the parents outweigh the rights of the child, then this would imply that both abortions and financial abortions are justified. Where is the flaw? Keep in mind that I already pointed out that the phrase "bodily autonomy" does not appear in anywhere in the Constitution, in any written law, or in any Supreme Court precedent. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 05:19 PM |
| 3 | A "feminist group" posted this.If you con women into sex, you're a rapist. At night: "Hey sexy, I'm a multimillionaire". The next morning: "HAHAHAHA I'm not really a multimillionaire!!!" | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 04:20 PM |
| 0 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentI'm pro-choice because of Jeremy Singer/Freakonomics and utilitarianism. But I think that the entire notion of "bodily autonomy" is straight up bullshit. However, if someone believes that the Violinist Thought Experiment implies that abortion should be legal, it would also imply that financial abortions should be legal. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 05:21 AM |
| 1 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentI support abortion based on the Jeremy Singer/Freakonomics basis. It's pure utilitarianism; the costs to the baby are negligible compared to the benefits to the rest of society | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 05:12 AM |
| -1 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentBodily autonomy could be given higher moral weight than perfect integrity to one's wealth =Bodily autonomy doesn't exist. If you search for that phrase in any law or any supreme court case, you won't find that phrase anywhere. There is absolutely no precedent for the existence of bodily autonomy. To make a strong argument for male's right to financial abortions, one would have to provide a good explanation why this wide-spread moral intuition is wrong. Because it pisses men off, and men should d… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 04:54 AM |
| -1 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought Experimentyou have not shown that abortion is not comparable to other medical treatments. Do you need to demonstrate a medical necessity in order to get an abortion? If not, then it is nothing more than a boob job or a face lift. Current laws say that you can be denied a boob job or a face lift if it results in someone's death. However, the rights of the clump of cells is trumped by the rights of the mother. Now here's the kicker- if the rights of the mother trump the rights of the clump of cells, then wh… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 04:34 AM |
| 0 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentYou must be the most retarded person ever. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 04:29 AM |
| 2 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentSo the fact that his life depends on it is completely irrelevant to whether or not he should be allowed to take someone else's money? You now support financial abortions. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 03:50 AM |
| 2 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentI edited my post to make things clearer. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 03:39 AM |
| -2 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentSadly, I have to agree with you. As far as philosophical thinking goes, this was a pretty shitty thought experiment that didn't really think about all the possible implications. On the other hand, this is a great way to have a discussion with a feminist, start out like you're supportive of feminist thought, and then throw a massive MRA curveball at them. It's practically the only way for them to see things our way. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 03:22 AM |
| 0 | A new take on the old Violinist Thought ExperimentI edited my post to make things clearer. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 03:14 AM |
| 2 | To the MRA's s that believe men should be able to 'legally/financially divorce" themselves from their biological child...As a woman, I am sympathetic to a lot of men's rights causes, but the movement as a whole tends to generalize women as manipulative, selfish harpies dedicated to ruining men's lives. It's not about generalizing women as selfish and manipulative, it's about pointing out that if a single woman decided to be that way, she would have the power of the entire federal government on her side. We don't have laws because we believe all people are evil. We have laws to thwart evil people. | /r/MensRights | 13/05/13 06:27 PM |
| 1 | To the MRA's s that believe men should be able to 'legally/financially divorce" themselves from their biological child...Men may not use them as much, but let's be honest. How often is the father the sole custodian of a 30 days old (3 days old in some states) or less infant. Do you really think there are single fathers all over the country saddled with infants they don't want but who are too ashamed to use safe haven laws because they are male...? That's the thing. If the male is not the sole custodian, then he will have trouble giving up the child in a safe haven. Regarding the abortion thing, I think abandoning … | /r/MensRights | 13/05/13 10:28 AM |
| 1 | To the MRA's s that believe men should be able to 'legally/financially divorce" themselves from their biological child...The only true analogy I can think of is a mother leaving the kid with the bio father, signing away rights, and not paying child support. Which would lead to men's rights activists posting about the unfairness of the woman not having to pay child support and putting all the responsibility on the man. Then you're missing the point. During pregnancy, women can choose to abort the baby. An analogous situation for men would be to abort their responsibility to the baby. After pregnancy, women can choo… | /r/MensRights | 13/05/13 01:24 AM |
| 1 | To the MRA's s that believe men should be able to 'legally/financially divorce" themselves from their biological child...Again, can you justify a parent of either sex abandoning their child without bringing up gender? Yes. They're called Safe Haven Laws. How can a movement dedicated to tearing down unfair gender roles and stereotypes stick up for absentee fathers? Isn't that like, the opposite of the message that you want to get across? Other people may disagree with me on this, but I think that the Men's Rights movement is better off discarding all this "gender role" bullshit. It's about fighting inequality and d… | /r/MensRights | 13/05/13 12:54 AM |
| 1 | To the MRA's s that believe men should be able to 'legally/financially divorce" themselves from their biological child...okay. well this conversation is over because you literally just said men should have control over a woman's body so you probably have some other issues you should probably sort out first. Wrong. Women can choose to abort, and men can choose to abort. If both parties are responsible, then a child will be born only if both parents consent to having children. That right there is equity. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/13 11:49 PM |
| 1 | To the MRA's s that believe men should be able to 'legally/financially divorce" themselves from their biological child...In your case blame your mom. Your dad never had a say. No choices = no responsibilities. I'm sorry your mother did that to you. Exactly! Why should a man have to pay for a woman's bad behavior? Giving birth is as equally costly as crashing a car into someone's house; why isn't there there an equivalence in civil/criminal responsibility between those two situations? | /r/MensRights | 12/05/13 11:46 PM |
| 1 | In an exclusive essay the Berkshire Hathaway chairman and CEO explains why women are key to America's prosperity.Everythings cool, bro. The important part is that in a supply and demand model, everything else outside the model is held constant. I.e. the demand curve must be held constant, the money supply must be held constant, etc. But on a large scale like our entire country, none of those things are held constant. When more people work, more things are produced. There is more money and more value to be exchanged. The fact that FOXCONN workers are building iPhones means that iPhones are cheaper, and henc… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/05/13 07:13 AM |
| 1 | In an exclusive essay the Berkshire Hathaway chairman and CEO explains why women are key to America's prosperity.If you actually took econ 101, you'd realize that the supply curve shouldn't affect the demand curve. And in macroeconomics, more workers should imply more stuff being produced, and hence more money to pay people with. This fallacy is a similar fallacy as the Luddite fallacy or the protectionism fallacy; it assumes a fixed pool of money instead of an ever expanding economy. | /r/TheRedPill | 04/05/13 06:12 AM |
| 1 | In an exclusive essay the Berkshire Hathaway chairman and CEO explains why women are key to America's prosperity.Actually, labor and employment is not a zero-sum game. Removing half the population from the workforce won't magically make everyone else productive. | /r/TheRedPill | 03/05/13 09:04 AM |
| 7 | Do you guys know about ManBoobz.com? Apparently he knows about us.debate Never in my life have I associated anything remotely feminist with an open debate. It's a dream that will never be realized. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/04/13 03:50 PM |
| 4 | GirlWritesWhat gives speech at NY Libertarian Convention on Feminism. Must ReadI would recommend a book like Basic Economics or Economics in One Lesson to get a grounding in some of these ideas. For example it may seem counterintuitive at first but minimum wage actually hurts the poor (and this is commonly agreed upon by most economic schools of thought). The top economic adviser in the country disagrees about how cut-and-clear the effects of the minimum wage are. I also assume that you've never heard of the Card & Krueger study, which states that a 10% rise in the minimum… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/04/13 01:48 PM |
| 5 | Boys, girls, and the math gap.IIRC, men are overrepresented at both ends. Absolutely. This is a fantastic read on the subject. For men,the outlook was radically different. If you go along with the crowd and play it safe, the odds are you won’t have children. Most men who ever lived did not have descendants who are alive today.Their lines were dead ends. Hence it was necessary to take chances, try new things, be creative, explore other possibilities. Sailing off into the unknown may be risky, and you might drown or be killed … | /r/TheRedPill | 30/04/13 09:54 AM |
| 3 | GirlWritesWhat gives speech at NY Libertarian Convention on Feminism. Must ReadA flat rate lik 18% tax makes people who earn more pay more, in proportion. Progressive taxation generally means a progressive rate of tax, which means people who make more pay a higher proportion of their income. So confusing this two sounds like you no idea what you are talking about. "Taxes" is generally used synonymously with "tax rates". Later on in the discussion, when I refer to total amount paid, I use the term "fees". In any case, how do you respond to the critique that only one of two … | /r/TheRedPill | 30/04/13 09:31 AM |
| 4 | GirlWritesWhat gives speech at NY Libertarian Convention on Feminism. Must ReadIs it more or less effective in increasing the quality of life of the general population than not stifling advancement and allowing those who earn to keep what they make, encouraging them to work more, advance more, and bring all of society up with them? Are you trading short term gains for long term losses? There's no evidence that more progressive taxes stifle advancement. In fact, making markets more competitive and less dominated by large firms actually contributes to advancement. No, I'm sa… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/04/13 07:24 AM |
| 4 | GirlWritesWhat gives speech at NY Libertarian Convention on Feminism. Must ReadI don't give a shit about fair. Fair is what losers and blue-pillers whine about. I give a shit about effective. I give a shit about producing results. A more progressive tax is more effective at increasing quality-of-life than a less progressive tax. If I went flat tax, it'd be a percentage rather than a flat rate. People aren't equal, some can't produce enough to afford their equal share divided by population. The point I was getting across is that going with a percentage rather than a rate is… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/04/13 06:51 AM |
| 4 | GirlWritesWhat gives speech at NY Libertarian Convention on Feminism. Must Read1st of all, taxes and regulations are 2 separate issues. 2nd, I pointed out that in our modern society, people are doing the same amount of work but are earning less. How? Because the 49ers aren't just a football team, they are the thousands of small businesses across the USA which refuse to hire a 50th employee and be bound by all the federal regulation for employee benefits that they simply just can't afford. And what does that do? That stifles competition. And that is what is concentrating we… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/04/13 05:14 AM |
| 5 | GirlWritesWhat gives speech at NY Libertarian Convention on Feminism. Must ReadHere's the thing- we know that the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer even though the amount of work being done by both groups is constant. Competition from outsourcing, immigrants, and technological advancements are causing employers to rethink how much a person's labor is worth; which is why more and more wealth is concentrated up top even though the economy is cruising at normal speed. And with the information age and globalization, our economy is headed towards a "winner… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/04/13 04:54 AM |
| 5 | GirlWritesWhat gives speech at NY Libertarian Convention on Feminism. Must ReadThink about it for a second... apply the red pill on a social scale. Conservatism works on a social level because it follows the same natural law you are exploiting on an individual level. Liberalism doesn't work because it ignores this natural law, just as the blue pill approach to women fails. On economic issues- what do you think about progressive taxes? The idea that people who earn more income should pay more taxes? | /r/TheRedPill | 30/04/13 04:41 AM |
| 11 | Possible contradictions within the red pill?It's also quite funny how "slut shaming" is a prominent feminist issue, even though men prefer virgins and women who are inexperienced in sex. But "creep-shaming", i.e. shaming someone who's not tall, dark, and handsome enough, is still on the menu. It's also funny how feminists claim that men have no right to feel "oppressed" when they face rejection for not being rich and handsome enough, but then fight against a wage gap that occurs when men compensate by working harder and sacrificing more o… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/04/13 04:24 AM |
| 9 | Possible contradictions within the red pill?Prisoner's dilemma and Tragedy of the Commons. What's beneficial for one individual person isn't necessarily beneficial to all of society. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/04/13 04:05 AM |
| 8 | GirlWritesWhat gives speech at NY Libertarian Convention on Feminism. Must ReadA video would be good. Straight from the horse's mouth: Just to let everyone know it went very well, and there will be video of it available soon. Hugs to all of you. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/04/13 02:44 AM |
| 6 | GirlWritesWhat gives speech at NY Libertarian Convention on Feminism. Must ReadGood stuff, but I've always been a bit upset over the fact that the manosphere tends to be right-wing. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/04/13 01:55 AM |
| 5 | The 3 components needed to be a great man.Now I can see some of the external factors that explains /u/TokyoPickup's success. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/04/13 01:05 AM |
| 2 | The 3 components needed to be a great man.The basic gist is that back in 1953, in the "Leave it to Beaver" era, men were expected to provide for a family, and women were expected to maintain the household. Whereas now, men and women are financially independent, so being a "breadwinner" is no longer a necessary or sufficient condition to getting a girlfriend/wife. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/04/13 12:34 AM |
| 2 | The 3 components needed to be a great man.Via Vivalamanosphere. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/04/13 09:33 PM |
| -6 | Have you ever been called a sociopath because of your lifestyle or your perception of things?Wasn't the whole reason you "diagnosed" me with aspergers because I spoke positively of this subreddit? So now that you're here, does that make you a high-functioning aspie? Or are you just here to troll and get banned just like with SRSsucks? | /r/TheRedPill | 29/04/13 09:20 PM |
| -4 | Have you ever been called a sociopath because of your lifestyle or your perception of things?LL_H, you are a sociopath. And it has nothing to do with the Red Pill mindset. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/04/13 09:03 PM |
| 3 | How TRP handles girlfriends demanding to go on dates with their male friends?Just gonna add to this to tell OP that this isn't /r/askrelationships or some shit. You're gonna hear things you don't wanna hear in this sub. Hence who whole "red pill" thing... Funny thing, actually, is that kukul's advice is exactly the type of advice you'd see in r/relationshipadvice. It's always "talk to your partner, work out your differences, and break up if your differences can't be reconciled". Nothing more. Seriously, if these people were actual relationship counselors, they would have… | /r/TheRedPill | 26/04/13 11:51 PM |
| 1 | You're all Cowering Bad Boy wannabesRollo, I'm a big fan. With that being said, I think that the manosphere should at least recognize Susan Walsh for her contributions. I read about the drama involving you, Dalrock, Susan, and 1 other guy that I forgot, basically accusing Susan of trying to sanitize the manosphere. But to be honest, I think Susan could have rocked that HuffPost interview. 3MM barely even delved into what the manosphere is about, but he easily instigated one of the guests into saying: "I'm don't mean to pick up the… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/04/13 05:32 PM |
| 2 | M/F SMV Age DifferentialSMV is the idea women's value to the other sex peaks at a young age, as their prime tool is their youthful looks. Men's value peaks at 30 something, as they maintain some of their looks, while increasing in confidence, stature, wealth, strength etc.... My critique is that while women's SMV breaks down largely to genetics and upbringing, so much must go right for male SMV to increase. To be honest, I understand "sexual market value" to be nothing more than the idea that meeting the opposite sex, … | /r/TheRedPill | 10/04/13 05:01 PM |
| 15 | M/F SMV Age DifferentialLet's just say that I have experience dealing with SRS. Also, take note of this comment for future reference. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/04/13 04:58 PM |
| 3 | Mice and Men - the results of an overcrowded society?You made this a self-post instead of a linked post.... | /r/TheRedPill | 10/04/13 10:12 AM |
| 6 | This is the shit some of our "Endorsed Contributors" are endorsingYou are flat-out insane. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/04/13 10:06 AM |
| 5 | This is the shit some of our "Endorsed Contributors" are endorsingThere Alot of things in the "Manosphere" that I don't agree with. Agreed. bringing everything back to Christianity(one of the blogs in the sidebar is heavy on this). To be fair. 95% of what comes from the manosphere are just testable hypotheses, and Dalrock has his own pet theories when it comes to Christianity and social conservatism. With everything else he talks about, he brings a lot of data into the discussion. With that being said, I think that there should be a space for men to vent their… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/04/13 10:05 AM |
| 1 | The official song of TheRedPillIf we're picking an official theme, I think we can do better. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/04/13 09:58 AM |
| 5 | Just watched, "The marriage of maria braun". Fucking disgusted.She hits black guy over the head, killing him. Husband takes the blame. K, upon reading this, I thought that the husband was framed and she got away with murder. Then I looked this up on wikipedia. What actually happened was that the wife professed her love for both him and the other guy, and the guy was moved so much by that confession, that he willingly took the blame out of love. I wish we had a compilation of Red Pill Reaction Gifs... | /r/TheRedPill | 10/04/13 02:34 AM |
| 6 | Anyone get the feeling Daniel Tosh has been "RedPilled?"When he got in trouble for telling a rape joke, he ended up apologizing. I found that to be completely unacceptable. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/04/13 02:30 AM |
| 3 | "Porn scares me because I can't compete"Of course she sees it as something the guys are only doing for women rather than their own benefit, and follows the idea "women care what men do for them, rather the man himself". Get a load of this. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/04/13 02:07 AM |
| 2 | SRSers Open MR Thread on /TRPAnd u/KingNick actually created a separate post to apologize | /r/TheRedPill | 09/04/13 05:17 PM |
| 8 | SRSers Open MR Thread on /TRPWoo! | /r/TheRedPill | 09/04/13 05:12 PM |
| 21 | "It's too bad your mom ruined you by making you respect women. Because you don't objectify them like other guys, you're different, and [girls] think you're broken." (from /r/OneY)Buddy, you're single. You don't technically have to objectify women or anything to change that. I think you're friend meant that the girls wonder why you don't act like the rest of the guys. The guys that they date and are sexually attracted to. Also, don't talk to girls about how to get girls. Ask the guys, they know how. They already do it. At least someone spits out some truth in r/OneY | /r/TheRedPill | 09/04/13 02:44 PM |
| 4 | Is it just me or are we seeing a paradigm shift in the mainstreamPersonally, this infuriates me to no end. Feminists love to go on and on about evolution and atheism - but then parrot the fact that 'gender is a social construct'. Christ! Men and women differ in their 23rd chromosome - so their sex is genetically distinct!! I assume that you're referring to Rebecca Watson, the atheist feminist, who ruined the atheist movement by shoving feminism into it. Yeah, she recently gave a talk on evolutionary psychology that was universally panned. Actual evolutionary … | /r/TheRedPill | 09/04/13 02:31 PM |
| 5 | [science] Dick size matters: "based upon female assessment of digitally projected life-size, computer-generated images, that penis size interacts with body shape and height to determine male sexual attractiveness. Positive linear selection was detected for penis size"Actually, shoulder-to-hip ratio is the most important trait for attractiveness. Penis size and height are tied in 2nd place. Also, penis size has a larger attractiveness effect on taller people and on people with a large shoulder-to-hip ratio. In other words, a dwarf with a big dick is no better off than a dwarf with a small dick. You gotta have the whole alpha package for any of this to matter. | /r/TheRedPill | 09/04/13 02:25 PM |
| 9 | Fascinating discussion last night re: hypergamyTo be fair, women often dress sexy and wear make-up purely for the inter-female social status that it gives. If there were only women left in this world, I'm pretty sure they'd still try to dress "sexy" and still wear make-up. The validation is obtained from the men that find them attractive, correct? We would expect to see more make-up being worn by women that face more competition for mates in female-heavy environments like metropolitan areas and less make-up worn in male-heavy environments su… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/04/13 03:05 PM |
| -3 | The problem with making being Alpha the ideal...If 30% of women are dateable, then you only need to be in the top 30% of the male population to find a suitable mate. | /r/TheRedPill | 04/04/13 02:30 PM |
| 16 | Fascinating discussion last night re: hypergamySpeaking of typical female scripts: Try asking a girl why they wear make-up. "We don't do it for guys, we do it for ourselves". Which leaves someone to wonder: what if there were no men left on earth? What if these people were the last people on earth? Would they still wear make-up? "Absolutely!! We would still wear make-up even if we were the last people on earth!!". These feminine scripts are interesting. | /r/TheRedPill | 04/04/13 01:28 PM |
| 1 | Duplicity - "women have a natural tendency for solipsism – any dynamic is interpreted in terms of how it applies to themselves first, and then the greater whole of humanity."I find Rollo pretty unclear, too. Dude needs to find himself a proofreader, for starters. Have you heard of GirlWritesWhat? Have you watched her videos? I think that a lot of people in the manosphere could use an editor of some sort. | /r/askTRP | 04/04/13 07:18 AM |
| 10 | Has anyone ever noticed the irony behind fat acceptance feminists hating the patriarchy?We could take this so much farther. The "Patriarchy" built modern civilization and gave provisions to women all throughout history. Fighting against the "Patriarchy" is equivalent to fighting against modern civilization. Also, the "Patriarchy" is nothing more than the aggregate sum of everyone's collective beliefs/attitudes/actions. Are you attracted to manly men? You're feeding the patriarchy. Do you refuse to date guys who aren't worthy of your Ivy League degree? Men will respond by working ha… | /r/TheRedPill | 01/04/13 06:47 AM |
| 6 | [Mod] Almost 3,000 Users and a message from the moderatorIt's actually kinda funny how the manosphere today resembles the beginnings of the feminist movement. Back then, there were feminists who felt that men should be dwindled down to 10% of the population, and feminists that said that all heterosexual sex is rape. Here, we have people saying that women are somehow genetically inferior, and that they produce no value to society. The feminist movement eventually grew, and I have a feeling that the manosphere will grow and attract some more sane people… | /r/TheRedPill | 01/04/13 01:20 AM |
| 6 | [Mod] Almost 3,000 Users and a message from the moderatorI'm kind of rambilng, but I don't like the idea of simplyfying and vilifying an entire gender based on the actions of sociopathic people on a power grab, hiding behind people with real grievances. But at the same time, I think a man needs to keep his wits about him, and forge his own path, because it's all too easy to get caught up in the nonsense. I guess I just don't see those particular issues being the gender ones, but entitled ones. I'd rather talk about the unintended concequences of the c… | /r/TheRedPill | 31/03/13 10:51 PM |
| 4 | [Mod] Almost 3,000 Users and a message from the moderator99.999% of men haven't invented anything, and 99.9999% of women haven't invented anything. That's an extremely small difference. Why do you support disenfranchising the female population but not the male population when there's essentially a negligible difference between the two in that regard? | /r/TheRedPill | 31/03/13 08:55 AM |
| 4 | [Mod] Almost 3,000 Users and a message from the moderatorExtraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If women really were immature as you say, then despite them "smelling nice", they would actually cause long-term difficulties in the office, and the costs of hiring them would outweigh the benefits. If female bosses really were "terraforming the workplace to their liking", then female-run businesses would go out of business quickly, which is untrue. Also, there's plenty of evidence showing that women make better loan officers at banks than men… | /r/TheRedPill | 31/03/13 08:53 AM |
| 6 | [Mod] Almost 3,000 Users and a message from the moderatorimplying theres no exceptions to a generally immature group of people I haven't seen it. Maybe you're just hanging around the wrong people. i believe thats an irrelevent economic problem more than anything. also, theres literally more men alive than ideas So why should we disenfranchise half of the population while "trying to fix an economic problem" for the other half of the population? Why not create economic opportunities for everyone? | /r/TheRedPill | 31/03/13 08:32 AM |
| 6 | [Mod] Almost 3,000 Users and a message from the moderatorSo you're saying that the free market does a poor job of weeding out incompetent people? I beg to differ; a biased perspective of things is a much more likely explanation than the idea that employers enjoy wasting trillions of dollars in labor costs by hiring women. | /r/TheRedPill | 31/03/13 08:29 AM |
| 10 | [Mod] Almost 3,000 Users and a message from the moderatorI believe, due to the forces of nature and the way maturity develops (as men know it) that women are naturally immature, not as a product of feminism- but instead feminism is a product of naturally immature women. Spend some time reading the sidebar. I read the No Ma'am blogpost. The guy makes a hasty generalization and backs it up with a single quote from a guy from 1851. Are you honestly telling me that you think that Sheryl Sandberg, Marissa Mayer, and Meg Whitman are all immature children? A… | /r/TheRedPill | 31/03/13 01:42 AM |
| 6 | [Mod] Almost 3,000 Users and a message from the moderatorLike the view that women shouldn't vote. There's a difference between saying that the right to vote should be tied to having certain responsibilities, and saying that women shouldn't vote at all. Or the view that women don't contribute to society. The female employment rate is about 60% Or the view that women are just over grown teenagers. I accept that testosterone and estrogen have certain effects on human behavior (effects that can be overturned using willpower), but that's just a downright h… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/03/13 07:58 PM |
| 3 | Perfect example of what happens when you allow yourself to become beta in a relationshipHe's entertaining, I'll give him that much. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/03/13 02:04 PM |
| 1 | Some hamster cages getting rattledlike the seal team six of misogyny. ::Thumps chest:: | /r/TheRedPill | 29/03/13 01:15 PM |
| 2 | What does the mainstream think about the manosphere?Neither Roissy nor Roosh have any chance of being treated well in the media. That's not to say they won't be mentioned, but the best we can hope for is to be called an "alarming trend". I take it that you haven't seen this link yet? | /r/TheRedPill | 29/03/13 01:12 PM |
| 4 | Chicks Dig Jerks ep. #2386 "The Confession"I'm reading the study: When subjects view sexual stimuli, physiological responses, such as heart rate, blood pressure, respiration, erection, and vaginal vasocongestion, are often discordant with self-reported subjective perception of sexual arousal, especially in women (Chivers, Reiger, Latty, & Bailey, 2004; Laan et al., 1994; Wincze, Hoon, & Hoon, 1977). The inconsistency between physiological measures and reports of subjective sexual arousal may suggest that physiological changes on their ow… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/03/13 06:13 AM |
| 6 | Any thoughts on GirlWritesWhat?GWW is definitely redpill, and a lot of people here are giving her a lot of deserved praise. With that being said, I don't think she's perfect. She employs a lot of good logic, which puts her at a level above feminism, but she's not quite a rigorous sociologist. As an example, when she (or any other Red Piller, for that matter) employs evolutionary psychology, she doesn't realize that it takes a lot of research to back up evo-psych claims. For instance, genetic similarities don't necessarily pre… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/03/13 04:08 AM |
| 1 | Any thoughts on GirlWritesWhat?she gets alot of her info about guy/girl relations from PUA so she's not fem biased. In one of her videos, she states that MRAs are trying to fix a broken system, while PUAs are just taking advantage of the broken system. In terms of the MRA/PUA divide, she definitely leans more towards the MRA side. ...then again would I really expect a woman to be a PUA? | /r/TheRedPill | 29/03/13 03:52 AM |
| 1 | Work for THE Man = Freedom. Work for YOUR Man = Slavery.I just tried to submit this, and found out that you already did. It's a great piece, and I'm starting to enjoy JudgyBitch.com. | /r/TheRedPill | 27/03/13 05:00 AM |
| 2 | Men being "fake" by using game, vs women being fake by using make-up.Picture Seddit instead. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/03/13 09:14 PM |
| -1 | Feminism, How the Rockefellers Re-Engineered WomenSo true. I believe it was http://www.hookingupsmart.com/ where I read about a bunch of data and statistics that talk about how the hook-up culture and feminist ideas have been having an effect on modern day marriage. But this post is pretty much a crap argument, with no supporting evidence, and shitty geocities-level web design. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/03/13 02:28 AM |
| 2 | Just another reason alimony shouldn't exist.Ironic considering Demi Moore's character in "Mr. Brooks". | /r/TheRedPill | 14/03/13 03:54 PM |
| -1 | The cost of cuckoldry.Dalrock.wordpress.com had an interesting idea a while back saying that women should be required to check a box stating that they are 100% sure that the father is the real father, under penalty of a massive prison sentence, before the father's name gets put on the birth certificate. The reluctance is all that's needed to get a DNA test. | /r/MensRights | 11/03/13 06:12 PM |
| 3 | A detailed analogy comparing modern day marriage to a poorly run restaurant.This excellent blogger, whom I just discovered today, strangely seems to believe that traditional conservatives and Christians have been supporting and enabling feminism. He's written plenty on the topic, but those three links should give a general rundown on why he believes what he believes (here's another link expanding on his views of conservatives enabling feminism. Here's another. Here's a detailed link talking about how Christians have abandoned the traditional view of marriage). You can m… | /r/MensRights | 11/03/13 09:49 AM |
| 3 | Everyone knows....Taken from Dalrock. | /r/TheRedPill | 11/03/13 06:41 AM |
| 3 | Phenomenal article exposing Feminism for what it isDoes anyone on this subreddit actually understand what feminism is? (Here's a hint: it's not a war against men) Did you read the actual article? Do you have a response to these specific, well thought out criticisms? | /r/TheRedPill | 11/03/13 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Reddit's Victim Complex: The Reddit panel at SXSW went terribly wrong. A powerful site struggles with introspection (trigger alert for stupidity)I happened to run into your subreddit after I learned yesterday that rollo tomassi did an ama. Subscribed. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/13 12:18 AM |
| 0 | "Consent Isn’t As Simple As 'No Means No'”How hard do you think it is to prevent something from entering your body that you don't want to enter your body? How hard is it to close your legs? Why do you think most juries won't convict without evidence of physical resistance? Also, have you ever had sex before? Do you realize how hard it is to create a miscommunication when two people are constantly in each others faces, hearing each others voices, and feeling each others body language? That's why there is so much so called "victim blaming… | /r/MensRights | 09/03/13 07:41 AM |
| 0 | "Consent Isn’t As Simple As 'No Means No'”Rape isn't covered by civil law, and what you're doing here is criminalizing sarcasm, hyperpole, and other such conversation tactics that a couple might engage in when they're in the bedroom. Sex should not be treated as a contract signed between the dotted line, it should be an enjoyable activity where peoples personalities shine through. | /r/MensRights | 08/03/13 04:49 PM |
| 1 | "Consent Isn’t As Simple As 'No Means No'”What if a woman says no but willingly opens her legs and allows access? What if the no is spoken sarcastically or lackadaisically, as in "no, I shouldn't have those brownies, they'll go straight to my thighs..." What do you make of the fact that more is communicated through body language than through actual words? This is why the standard for rape is physical resistance. There are millions of times throughout your life where you'll say no but mean yes, but actions speak far louder than words. | /r/MensRights | 08/03/13 05:36 AM |
| 5 | Democratic strategists's shocking claim: Women don't need guns for self-defense, just tell men 'Not to rape women'I gotta say, though, that a political party that doesn't support abortions for women probably won't support financial abortions for men. | /r/MensRights | 06/03/13 08:38 PM |
| -2 | Is it legal for a gym to charge different rates for men vs. women? If not what can be done about it?I agree with this. In general, price discrimination is not something worth fighting against in the MRM. I am willing to pay extra to get into a bar that let's ladies in for free, and I am willing to pay extra for gym services that I am more likely to use. With that being said, I have to wonder if this is actually beneficial to the gym itself. Gyms generally make money from people who pay for a membership but never show up; but it seems that women are far more likely to make an appearance at the … | /r/MensRights | 06/03/13 06:13 PM |
| 2 | Democratic strategists's shocking claim: Women don't need guns for self-defense, just tell men 'Not to rape women'Income inequality and bad economics. I don't want to start a massive debate in here, and I understand why r/Mr attracts a lot of right wingers, but the fact of the matter is that despite my hatred of the feminist movement (I consider myself to be primarily an antifeminist, and only a part-time MRA), I think that conservatives have an even worse vision for this country. Heck, I would rather purge feminism from the liberal movement than join the conservative movement. Outside the issue of gender r… | /r/MensRights | 06/03/13 06:06 PM |
| 3 | Saw this on Facebook. What?Card and Krueger (1995) showed that there are very few disemployment effects of the minimum wage, but a 10% increase in the minimum wage leads to a 4% increase in prices. While wages become more competitive for all low skilled labor, prices also rise. This is why Christina Romer's op ed piece in the NYTimes stated that it is very difficult to determine if raising the minimum wage increases or decreases real wages, and that there are better ways to help the poor. | /r/MensRights | 06/03/13 04:58 PM |
| 17 | ‘11 Signs You Might Be An MRA’ T-Shirt2. You insist that it’s a scientifically proven fact that men are stronger than women. But you complain about society believing that it’s worse for a man to hit a woman than for a woman to hit a man. I think the complaint is that men are not allowed to defend themselves, even if the woman is attacking him relentlessly and/or using a weapon. | /r/MensRights | 26/02/13 04:59 PM |
| 2 | Penn & Teller: Bullshit! - Cheerleaders. A brilliant example of how feminism hurts women as well.I made it 15 minutes through, but I started to anticipate how Penn and Teller would eventually make the connection that "feminism hurts women as well", as the OP suggested. It's still quite a tenuous connection as to how a specific clause in Title IX preventing market competition is tantamount to "feminism hurting men", but I'll watch the rest of the video now. | /r/MensRights | 24/02/13 12:41 PM |
| -1 | Penn & Teller: Bullshit! - Cheerleaders. A brilliant example of how feminism hurts women as well.I gotta call bullshit on this. You can't blame Title IX for cheerleading injuries; it was not directly responsible for cutting down on safety initiatives for cheerleaders. | /r/MensRights | 24/02/13 08:59 AM |
| 11 | At-home dads make parenting more of a 'Guy' thing; this results in better self-control in children, less risky behavior, and better gradesYou're absolutely right. Just because there's a correlation between 1) men staying home and spending 1000s of hours with their kids, and 2) the subsequent success and discipline instilled in those kids, doesn't necessarily mean that success and discipline are caused by men staying home. The direction of causation could be reversed. Kids getting good grades and having self control could cause men to retroactively stay home with them in the past. Those kids could build time machines, go back in ti… | /r/MensRights | 25/01/13 05:22 AM |
| 3 | 20% of the men get 80% of the women (x-post /r/OneY)I cannot picture any possible scenario where 20% of men get 80% of women, while 20% of women get 80% of men. The only way that this wouldn't be impossible is if 20% of each gender would be willing to sleep with virtually everyone of the opposite gender, and about 80% of each gender was willing and able to get laid easily thanks to that 20%. I honestly doubt that that's how it works. | /r/seduction | 21/01/13 03:09 AM |
| 10 | Warren Farrell featured in USA Today, discussing how pressures on young boys can lead to gun violenceLook at this guy, discussing the mental health and well-being of our young boys. This man REEKS of rape apology! /s | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 01:03 PM |
| 3 | Question about some controversial quotes from Warren Farrell's The Myth of Male Power.Nope. It was a virus. | /r/MensRights | 15/12/12 01:10 AM |
| 4 | Question about some controversial quotes from Warren Farrell's The Myth of Male Power.Thank you. | /r/MensRights | 14/12/12 08:26 PM |
| 5 | Question about some controversial quotes from Warren Farrell's The Myth of Male Power.Thanks man. | /r/MensRights | 14/12/12 08:05 PM |
| 34 | avoiceformen shadowbanned, probably for pissing off srsIf I had to guess, I would say that Paul Elam is targeted by so many people that there is probably a massive number of feminists that will hit the "report" button as soon as he uploads a video. I doubt that you've earned that level of vitriol. On the other hand, there were a massive number of people who hit the "report" button on Rick Perry's controversial Strong video, and that wasn't removed. I guess when Youtube receives a sufficiently large number of complaints, an administrator looks at the… | /r/MensRights | 07/12/12 05:19 AM |
| 6 | want a well defined definition of patriarchyYou have a right to. Here's an MRA who claimed to ask virtually every feminist for a clarification on what the patriarchy is, and failed to receive an answer. (It's a 20 minute video). | /r/MensRights | 30/11/12 09:14 AM |
| 0 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".That being said, what is your opinion of our founding fathers? Were they too rural for you? Where they stupid for wanting a limited sized government? My bottom line is that we're living in an increasingly interconnected, increasingly globalized society. And the solutions that worked in the late 1700s will not work today. I recall from high school history class about battles between federalists and antifederalists, between the people who supported the formation of a central bank and the people wh… | /r/MensRights | 26/10/12 03:27 AM |
| 1 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".The Federal Reserve has done good for our country. Look at all the recessions we've had in the 1800s, and compare them to all the recessions we've had in the 1900s. The Federal Reserve has done wonders for economic growth and stability. The main reason for this is because there is an inverse relationship between inflation and unemployment in the U.S.. You can say that inflation greases the wheels of the labor market. Businesses and individuals are not investing as much as they used to. This char… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 09:30 PM |
| 0 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".the entire country is underemployed, and there is a huge shortfall in demand across this country Demand of what? Demand for employees to hire? Go ahead and watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VoxDyC7y7PM#t=60s I watched most of it, and I've already pre-emptively responded to most of those critiques in this previous comment. The government isn't "taking money away" from the free market. Banks are voluntarily lending money to the government because it is virtually… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".But it ignores the free market. If people want to work for $5 an hour, it is not the duty of the business to prevent that from happening. If the business cannot survive if it pays its employees more, then the business needs to expand, reduce inefficiencies, improve their model, etc. You're just arguing higher minimum wage for the employee's sake with no understanding of the free market and the macroeconomic effects. If people want to work for $10/hour, but they need food on their plate as soon a… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".Only because there is a surplus of workers right now. Not because a degree means anything. Even before the recession happened, a college degree commanded an extra $10k-$30k per year and had a lower unemployment rate. Once the recession started, the people who suffered the most were people without a degree. So your attempt to convince me that minimum wage is good is that companies would make too much profit? Nice try. It's not the fault of a company that 50 people apply for one position that's pa… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".Alright, well I don't have personal experience in the financial industry (I did pass the CFA level I exam 2 years ago, but the job search didn't produce anything, so now I'm just going to graduate school for engineering), so I don't know all the details. However, I do know that there are valid reasons for government interference in the economy, and that if Graham-Bliley-Leach was never passed, then this recession would never have happened. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".Back to the idea of blue states subsidizing red states: I think you're saying that if blue states just adopted the "small government" philosophy, then they would actually profit from it. My actual point was that if blue states adopted the "small government" philosophy, red states would suffer drastically, and that's something that neither red states nor blue states want to see. The premise that I was operating on was that blue states are blue out of sympathy, but red states are red due to strong… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".In fact, the most remarkable recovery to date was in the early 20s. Unemployment hit 12%, then dropped to 6% in a year, then all the way to 2% after that. There was absolutely NOTHING done to fix the problem. It self-regulated Because there was no banking/financial crisis. Even Keynes would agree that there was no need for the federal government to do anything. On the other hand, the Federal Reserve did something. Following World War I, Benjamin Strong, head of the New York Fed from 1914 to his … | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 04:19 PM |
| 0 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".Sarbanes-Oxley was there to prevent fraud like what happened to Enron. The Community Reinvestment Act had virtually nothing to do with the financial crisis. 55% of commercial real estate loans were currently underwater, despite being completely unaffected by the CRA approximately 50% of the subprime loans were made by independent mortgage companies that were not regulated by the CRA, and another 25% to 30% came from only partially CRA regulated bank subsidiaries and affiliates. Barr noted that i… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 04:12 PM |
| 0 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".Are you implying that liberty and wealth are directly related? Precisely. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 06:49 AM |
| 1 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".The government is an idea put into place by a small group of people. It's fallible. It's not perfect I'm just gonna bring up the fact that Republican states that clamor about keeping the government out of their lives tend to be subsidized by the government, and that Democratic states that clamor about more government tend to subsidize the government more. In other words, a lot of people who talk about how they hate government are actually subsidized by the government via farm subsidies, military… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 06:40 AM |
| 2 | Any advice on how I can better handle an exchange like this?Are you familiar with the piece that gives "Shrodinger's Rapist" its name? Not exactly. I've never read it. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 06:31 AM |
| 1 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".It is also my problem if I didn't save money, had no ability to get a new job, or had no skills to do on my own with my own business or company. There are more options out there than to just work for somebody else and hope things go ok. The difference between you and me is that I believe I have control over my life and most of what happens to me is my decision. You believe life just happens to you and you have no control over it and you hope that the government will make sure you are ok. The fun… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 06:30 AM |
| -5 | Any advice on how I can better handle an exchange like this?I'm curious about what other people have to say about this as well. I follow r/MensRights, but don't consider myself an MRA for reasons such as this. IMO, A rational woman would be smart to consider every guy to be Schrodinger's rapist, just like a rational man would be wise to consider every girl to be lying when she says she's on the pill. Gender politics exist the way they do for a reason, and I'm actually curious why a lot of guys here think that the concept of Schrodinger's rapist is proble… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 06:22 AM |
| 1 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".Society is more than just a collection of individuals. A rising tide lifts all boats, no man is an island onto himself, etc... The point is that if you define liberty as the ability to do what you want, then personal liberty is maximized when the majority of Americans have as much wealth as possible. Which is a goal that requires thoughtfulness and understanding instead of dogmatic adherence to laissez-faire economics. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 06:18 AM |
| 2 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".This is a company acting in it's own interest. And if you'd ever listen to Ron Paul, you also look at the rest of the puzzle. There are hundreds of people, who acting in their own best interest, would fight the company to protect their own air and water from said pollution. They would fight that company by lobbying the government. And individuals acting in their own interest to protect the ocean from BP and the damage they caused. Imagine if everyone whom owned beach front property were able to … | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 06:08 AM |
| 1 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".Figuring out what caused the problem is completely different from figuring out the solution to the problem. And in economics, sometimes the cause is actually the best solution. In any case, government spending and regulation didn't cause the financial crisis. Quite the opposite actually, it was deregulation that caused the financial crisis. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 05:59 AM |
| 1 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".The goal of society isn't to try to let some people get ahead of others. It's to get everybody ahead. Society isn't supposed to be a zero-sum game. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 05:57 AM |
| 1 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".Negative externalities. Sometimes when people act in their own best interest, it's not in our best interest. Examples: Companies that pollute the air and water BP cutting costs and safety measures in their oil drilling procedures Thieves stealing your phone Second hand smoke coming from smokers Increased crime and decreased property values resulting from people opening up casinos and liquor stores. People tucking their money away into banks during depressions and financial crises, which results … | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 05:55 AM |
| 2 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".Alright, well here's a graph of inflation-adjusted GDP. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 05:49 AM |
| 1 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".The more frugal you are as a consumer, the better off you will be financially And the more frugal your customers are as a worker and business owner, the worse off you will be financially. One man's spending is another man's income. Therein lies the paradox. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 05:46 AM |
| 2 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".And my main issue with liberals is that they believe the government is this magical entity that can solve everything. Any problem that can only be solved by making people act against their own best interest is a problem that the government needs to handle, correct? | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 05:44 AM |
| 3 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".The Great Depression, just like all other recessions, is characterized by negative inflation. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 05:42 AM |
| 4 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".Just as an example of how things are a little more complicated: The monetary base is generally about 5% of the total amount of money in circulation. In other words, your bank typically holds about 5% of your actual money in the form of solid, green dead presidents. So when the banks lost almost all that money, there was a chance of a bank run occurring, which means that they would have even less money to pay out even more withdrawals. That would have left almost everyone with $0.00 in their bank… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 04:43 AM |
| 2 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".The data begs to differ. The New Deal began in 1933, and the economy started to recover in 1933. Not to mention that the depression was a worldwide depression, and recovery for virtually all countries began at the same time (earlier for countries that left the gold standard earlier). | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 04:28 AM |
| 5 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".I've read his column, and I do think he makes compelling arguments. But I've read Krugman, and I've studied a little bit of economics, and case seems to be that if you don't understand the compelling counterarguments, then you're missing out on really important information. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 04:16 AM |
| 3 | Controversial Claim. Still true if you replace "racist" with "misogynist".Not related to r/MensRights, but my main issue with Sowell, along with almost every other right-wing libertarian, is that they don't believe in government action to fix financial crises or kickstart the economy. Other than that, I do have to say that this subreddit, much like myself, tends to act as Reddit's right wing. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 02:53 AM |
| 1 | Rollo Tomassi: " A man with options has power, and from these options and this sense of power, a natural sense of confidence will manifest itself"I just discovered this blog (http://www.rationalmale.com), and I love it so far. | /r/seduction | 12/09/12 10:20 AM |
| 2 | AntiSRS going off the deep end? New policies, by an SRS-friendly mod, mock / restrict criticism of SRS/r/SRSsucks my friends. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/12 07:53 PM |
| 2 | Hey r/seduction, I've created this study on text message response time in young adult women and would like your feedback (details inside)I pointed this out in my own comment down below, but I think that the OP would be better off using continuous variables instead of discrete values, and using a lot more than only 3 different text message types. | /r/seduction | 01/09/12 09:09 PM |
| 2 | Hey r/seduction, I've created this study on text message response time in young adult women and would like your feedback (details inside)An endless variety of permutations on (1) can be created and RTT can be measured. The six variations to be used in this study are: 1) early week, “I enjoyed hanging out with you. We should do it again soon”; 2) mid week, “I enjoyed hanging out with you. We should do it again soon”; 3) late week or weekend “I enjoyed hanging out with you. We should do it again soon”; 4) mid week, “Heyy sexy! whats goin on??; 5) late week or weekend, “Heyy sexy you should come party w me”; 6) mid week, “Hey, can I… | /r/seduction | 01/09/12 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Here's an interesting study that might be relevant: Warmer drinks create warmer feelings within people. Thoughts?I was thinking that in practice, this can be done via having a coffee date on Day 1 or Day 2 when someone is in a rapport-building stage. Rapport building is the 3rd step in Mystery's M3 model (I know this subreddit has been moving away from the outer game stuff, but I honestly respect Mystery as the father of all game): Attraction (act confident, demonstrate higher value), Qualification (tease a girl and get to know her), and then Rapport (get comfortable with a girl, and enjoy each other's pre… | /r/seduction | 29/08/12 06:51 AM |
| 1 | Here's an interesting study that might be relevant: Warmer drinks create warmer feelings within people. Thoughts?Here's another interesting study with regards to a girl you see as LTR material (in the last paragraph): When a person is sitting in a wobbly chair, they tend to place more value on having a stable relationship. Keep in mind that these are published psychological studies that are being reported on sites like economist.com and guardian.co.uk. I'm not taking this from a cheesy old NLP handbook. | /r/seduction | 29/08/12 03:39 AM |
| 1 | Any interest in a Lair for Ann Arbor?I'm down. | /r/seduction | 15/08/12 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Why PUAs get accused of rapeSeriously. And she was babbling on about how he kissed her without her permission, and how that would work against her in court. If you don't see how an unwarranted kiss would work in your favor in court, then you obviously shouldn't represent yourself. Jesus Christ, this lady is stupid. | /r/seduction | 04/07/12 07:28 AM |
| 2 | Why PUAs get accused of rapeI am a very active poster in /r/antiSRS. I have interacted with many feminists, both rational and irrational, on topics like this and the seduction community. The hatred that online 3rd-wave feminists have against us boils down to this: Women are apparently "socialized" to comply with a guy's requests and to never say "no", even if it means that they have unwanted sex. Let me just say that I think that this is, for the most part, bullshit. If this were true, then seduction communities wouldn't e… | /r/seduction | 04/07/12 06:55 AM |
| 1 | going places aloneAtticusSeduction pretty much summed up the theory behind this. Whenever I go out by myself, my first instinct is to hitch up with a bunch of random guys. I talk to a group of guys, get to know them, talk about random shit, and then hang out for the night. That way, I expand my connections, I have fun, and I have some social proof for when I go to talk to some girls. | /r/seduction | 29/04/12 11:02 PM |
| 2 | Oxytocin: The Trust MoleculeTo be trustworthy, you need to be trusting. If you share a cigar with a girl, you'll build rapport. Keep that in your playbook. The author found that when he gave out mandatory hugs at his psychology lectures, the conversations were deeper. Kino works. The neurochemistry behind all this is, if you care, is that oxytocin is a neurochemical that builds trust. Testosterone blocks the effects of oxytocin. Ergo, women are more susceptible to building trust than men are. | /r/seduction | 29/04/12 10:57 PM |
| -24 | Peacocking: am I doin' it right?This. | /r/seduction | 29/04/12 10:55 PM |
| 3 | Oxytocin: The Trust MoleculeNow the trick is to find the balance between building trust and not beeing someone's bitch. The M3 Model goes: Attraction -> Qualification -> Rapport. From what I understand, building attraction gives a girl a reason to want to talk to you. Qualifying makes a girl want to impress you. Rapport makes a girl trust you. So basically, if you use good body language and use qualifiers, then eventually you'll get to the stage where all this stuff becomes useful. And that's how you distinguish being trus… | /r/seduction | 29/04/12 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Question about body language in "Venusian Arts"Thanks, this is all good info. | /r/seduction | 29/04/12 03:14 AM |
| 1 | An In-depth Explanation of Negging.According to this site, negs are often supposed to be delivered humorously. And the end result of a neg is that a girl that otherwise wouldn't be taking you seriously is now talking to you. I mean, the big difference between a neg and an insult is the light-hearted humor and the fact that it's supposed to make a girl qualify herself for you. So you deliver a one-liner that makes a girl laugh and makes a girl want to talk to you. How is that not using a neg as a form of humor? Edit: It's really n… | /r/seduction | 29/04/12 01:27 AM |
| 2 | An In-depth Explanation of Negging.I've always thought that negs were a multifaceted tool that could be used in many different situations for many different purposes. From my interpretation of negs, they're used for: Showing a girl that you won't be easily won over (disqualifying) Humor Building comfort and making a girl feel more comfortable around you Putting yourself into a state where you feel more confident (building a stronger frame). Easing tension when you get approach anxiety. Sure, there are different analytical framewo… | /r/seduction | 29/04/12 01:06 AM |
| 2 | Just a smileTo be honest, a lot of times I run through worst-case-scenarios in my head before approaching a woman. She could look at me funny. She could call the cops on me. I could end up getting talked to by a million people about how what I did was completely unacceptable. And then, once I realize that none of that really matters, I go talk to her anyway. Just 5 minutes ago, I was done smoking, when a girl was halfway done. I decided to light up another one. I figured that it would seem pretty damn obvio… | /r/seduction | 14/04/12 02:58 AM |
| 1 | Violation theory: How to exploit social norms in your favor. Easy compliance from girls, the actual dynamics of AMOGing (as opposed to just lines), and getting into mixed groups easy.I agree. What is a "violation"? What does it mean to "plow"? I get the basic gist of the article, though. The idea is that you need to follow social rules and etiquette, prevent other people from baiting you into violating those social rules and etiquette, and deal with AMOGs (Alpha-Males-of-the-Group, basically people trying to cockblock you) by baiting them into violating those social rules and etiquette. The OP is right. I'm about to walk down the street and put this into practice. | /r/seduction | 24/03/12 03:05 AM |
| 3 | Tell me your favorite piece of Seddit advice.Sorry dude. All of that was copied and pasted from somewhere else. But hey, if I ever find myself lost in the middle of Ireland, I'll buy you drinks and we can go sarging. | /r/seduction | 08/03/12 12:39 PM |
| 2 | Miss Manners: Constant pressing for sex deserves outraged responseIf I recall the posts on LMR correctly, the standard response would be to agree with her, come up with your own reason for believing that sex would be a bad idea, and remain at the a level of intimacy that she's comfortable with. Maybe even move back a level of intimacy. | /r/seduction | 08/03/12 09:03 AM |
| 11 | Tell me your favorite piece of Seddit advice.Nouning. All of the following is copied and pasted from here: This is a technique I read about that will help those of you who have trouble with conversation. You'll be able to hold a conversation without a problem. It could start with the simplest of questions like, "What did you do today?" You'll learn to do this with practice without even thinking about it, but for now, here's how you do it. (this is taken from another post) quote: You: So what do you do with yourself? Her: Oh, Im in Trinity … | /r/seduction | 08/03/12 08:49 AM |
| 4 | Tell me your favorite piece of Seddit advice.I recall a post that said that you have to approach 500 women for to get good at this. But after you approach a certain number of women, things just start to click. | /r/seduction | 08/03/12 08:47 AM |
| 10 | Guys that get friendzoned read thisDid you read the article closely? The author was contemplating the dichotomy between men wanting sexually experienced women, and men not wanting "sluts". The author concluded that the perceived difference between those two is the fact that "sluts" are shamed because they don't provide enough of a chase. The author then said that the phenomenon of the perceived "nice guy" mimics the phenomenon of the perceived "slut". I think that a lot of people here are reacting pretty harshly because of the do… | /r/seduction | 08/03/12 08:42 AM |
| 0 | Guys that get friendzoned read thisI gotta disagree with this sentiment. You're assuming that the moment two people meet is the moment that they know if they're right for each other. In truth, attraction is something that you can work towards. I think that the dating process is about proving that you're a capable partner. Imagine if Bob acting like "X" towards Jane. Then Bob eventually got the guts to ask her out. Jane turns him down. What you're essentially saying is that even if Bob acted like "Y" or "Z" towards Jane, then Jane… | /r/seduction | 08/03/12 08:39 AM |
| 1 | 104 Ways To Break The IceTyler Durden onced used this line: "My mom uses facebook, but I don't". Now THAT'S a conversation starter. | /r/seduction | 16/02/12 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Neil Strauss: " Is [LMR] a technique designed to push someone to do something they DON'T want to do...or is it a technique designed to make someone comfortable with something they WANT to do but are just nervous about...?Honestly, I have butted heads with the "evil subreddit" 1000 times over this issue. But the way he talks and the way he acts, even online, makes his words so much more powerful. Geez, I should stop studying the theory and start doing a little more practice. | /r/seduction | 14/02/12 09:10 PM |
| 1 | For every hour of theory, you should be doing one hour of practice. Are you? [Poll]If I may chime in: I'm a university student, and most of my time is spent with schoolwork. I don't get many opportunities to go out sarging. And let me tell you, Ann Arbor is a tough town; a lot of girls are looking for future husbands and won't show interest if you don't have a lot of hobbies and interests. So basically I just read theory when I want a break from studying, and turn it into practice every once in a blue moon. | /r/seduction | 10/02/12 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Sedditors what are some of your favorite PUA movies?Thank you for this. | /r/seduction | 10/02/12 04:24 PM |
| 15 | To: the guy who posted "I need some tweaking" but deleted his submission...Great highlight from the link about conversation threading: Men have conversations to exchange information. Women have conversations to relate to each other. | /r/seduction | 04/02/12 08:52 PM |
| 3 | Are you frustrated with your inability to close with women? I can guarantee you that if you can internalize this, your life will forever change.You know, there are actually some people out there that agree with you. | /r/seduction | 04/02/12 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Idea for a first date - TO BEFRIEND AN HB9"Hot Babe" or "Hot Bitch" that ranks a 9 on a scale from 1-10. | /r/seduction | 31/01/12 11:37 AM |
| 1 | Posted this in r/pics before but I figure I'd post this here as well. While ordering calzone, I asked on the comment box "how should I ask girls out?" This is what I got from the calzone boxHmm. I guess I'm wrong? | /r/seduction | 30/01/12 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Little LMR GuideWell, to be fair, I don't think I use attract-qualify-rapport with my male friends. I tend to lean more on the "be chill, say what's up" model for that. But another Sedditor here said that he uses this stuff in his sales position. And I'm in school for another year and a half, but I'm counting down the days before I gotta learn how to apply this to job interviews. | /r/seduction | 30/01/12 03:25 PM |
| 2 | Little LMR GuideI feel like PUA material would work with girls, too. You girls can skip the opening and transitioning phase, cause that's a man's job, but you still have to attract a guy, qualify him (let him know that you and him are a good match, or at least make him work to become a good match for you), and establish rapport (a strong social connection). I think the balance between affection and disinterest is the biggest part of the male-female interaction, and it's the part that I personally need to focus … | /r/seduction | 30/01/12 03:06 PM |
| -1 | Little LMR GuideThis is anecdotal, but: One of my friends is a natural at this stuff. He learned at an early age that women respond positively when he acts like an asshole. Myself and my other friends, on the other hand, are learning this stuff later on. We're actually learning about specific tactics and social techniques that build attraction and rapport. We're not learning it by having people tell us to treat women like crap, and we don't feel this way. I guess what I'm trying to say is that this community is… | /r/seduction | 30/01/12 01:02 PM |
| 1 | I met Neil Strauss/Style tonight, and this is the only proof my drunk ass has.....he was an amazing dude to hang out with though.That is awesome. What's he up to nowadays? What was the conversation like? Did you talk about Game, or is he absolutely sick of that topic now? | /r/seduction | 30/01/12 12:20 PM |
| 2 | Little LMR GuideAs a male who's attempted to apply this stuff, I don't think anyone ever thinks of this as an experiment. At least not in the heat of the moment. Personally, I just do what feels right in the moment. I'll occasionally stop for half a second and think- "Hey, maybe I should put my hand on her shoulder to make us both a little more comfortable", or "I feel like she's out of my league. Maybe I should try acting like I'm out of her league". But for the most part, I just act like my natural self. Late… | /r/seduction | 30/01/12 12:12 PM |
| -3 | Little LMR GuideDon't worry about SRS. The people who matter understand what you're talking about and where you're coming from with all this. Hey Frogma, relevant question regarding pre-emptively stopping LMR: I assume that you've heard of the Vin DiCarlo escalation ladder, right? Have you tried using that in practice? Is there a right and wrong time to make hand contact, shoulder contact, and leg contact? Would you wait for certain cues in the conversation? Or is it better to just get a feel for it? | /r/seduction | 30/01/12 12:02 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Baby steps guys, this shit worksOP, question: What do you think created that attraction? Are you tall? Do you dress well? Are you articulate? Do you have baby blue eyes? What is it that got that girl attracted to you, if you don't mind me asking? | /r/seduction | 30/01/12 11:52 AM |
| 3 | [FR] Baby steps guys, this shit worksI feel like all the people who hate on Seddit don't see the world from a man's point of view. They think of romance in terms of "chemistry" and "magic", while a lot of us realize it's about strategies, tactics, and guts. Overall, no matter how much shit Seddit takes, we're going to attract the right people. | /r/seduction | 30/01/12 11:50 AM |
| -3 | Posted this in r/pics before but I figure I'd post this here as well. While ordering calzone, I asked on the comment box "how should I ask girls out?" This is what I got from the calzone boxOr I guess a better way would be to chat with her for a couple minutes about hobbies, interests, etc. then somehow mention that you heard of this comedy club/ice cream place/etc opening up in town. I've learned that smoothness and subtlety is key. | /r/seduction | 30/01/12 11:46 AM |
| 1 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want toI don't know, I haven't sarged in months. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 01:13 PM |
| 0 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want toOkay, so I'm just being an asshole then. I can live with that. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 09:44 AM |
| -1 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want toAlright, so the analogy implies that stopping sexual activity causes emotional harm to the girl. But women stop sexual activity with guys all the time. Making out at a bar or party, then leaving with her friends. Going to 2nd or 3rd base in bed, then going to sleep. Stopping sexual activity is not the equivalent of rejection. And that's the thing- if it was, then you can make the argument that the woman is rejecting the man for going to bed without satisfying him. The way I see it, it's more abo… | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 09:35 AM |
| 0 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want toEither way, it's the same action, and it results in a greater chance for sex. So it still ultimately boils down to intention. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 09:09 AM |
| 0 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want toThe example I brought up is a textbook example of a freezeout. What you're saying is that if I intentionally decide that texting my friend is more important than her if she's not having sex, then it's manipulation. But if I subconsciously make the same decision, it's okay. My response is that the line your drawing is far blurrier than you seem to think it is. Aetheralloy expressed it best. Women don't consciously exchange pretty dresses and free dinner for sex. It's often subconscious. But that … | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 08:50 AM |
| 0 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want toThat's exactly my point The reason why I'm getting extremely passionate about this is because I feel like I am being manipulated, but when I manipulate back using similar rules, it's suddenly unethical. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 08:23 AM |
| 0 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want toAnd women should know that sometimes men want sex. Let's reframe this whole thing: Let's say that I do what PUAs advise and what a lot of women I know do anyway: just appear to look busy. Let's say that I have a school project due in a few days, and I have to contact a dude about a certain portion of it. I tell a girl that I'm seeing about the whole project. Things get intimate, I physically express my desire to go forward, she expresses her desire to not go forward. Is it wrong for me to sudden… | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 08:18 AM |
| 0 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want toIf she's not putting out, then I'm considering my inadequacies. Obviously I didn't do something right. Maybe I wasn't good enough at talking, projecting confidence, etc. But I don't project my inadequacies onto her, and she shouldn't do that to me. Our inadequacies are our own responsibility. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 08:06 AM |
| -1 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want tothe way I see it, stopping and pulling out the phone is a way of communicating my impatience. At least I'm actually letting a girl know what's going through my head before I just pick up and ditch. She might actually change her mind because of it, I've heard of it happening. Is it really manipulation if you truly want either sex or to leave, and you indirectly express that? | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 07:53 AM |
| 0 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want toWhy not just express my impatience? | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 07:48 AM |
| 0 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want toNo. I'm studying to become a pick-up artist, but I am nowhere close to being one yet. Pick-up artists are telling me that I can use these techniques to get out of an uncomfortable position. SRS, and you, are telling me that I should remain in that uncomfortable position. This is why I honestly don't understand people who hate pick-up artists. You say that I'm learning manipulation, but I feel like people who are telling me not to use The Game are manipulating me. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 07:43 AM |
| 2 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want toThis is what I'm talking about. If it's done to a woman, it's emotional blackmail. If it's done to a man, it's a woman asserting herself. | /r/MensRights | 26/01/12 08:15 AM |
| 1 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want toIn some of the deeper threads, the debate got intense, and I laid it out clear for them: Women can stop sex for whatever reason. Men can be called a scumbag if they do it for the wrong reasons. Intentions don't matter for women. Intentions matter for men. That's what I have an issue with. | /r/MensRights | 26/01/12 08:04 AM |
| 2 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want toAnd this one guy: When I tell him that it's unfair for a guy to cease sexual activity, he gives me a link to a wikipedia article talking about emotional blackmail. When I tell him that the definition of emotional blackmail is done to men every time they're denied sex, he links a Rolling Stones song: "You can't always get what you want" and says he's going to bed. And he even has the gall to ask if I'm autistic | /r/MensRights | 26/01/12 07:49 AM |
| -1 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want toHere's another poignant thread. | /r/MensRights | 26/01/12 07:45 AM |
| 0 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want toHere's one. Here's another Top Level Comment Here. Just to fill you in, what I said was that if you're making out with a girl, and she doesn't want to go further, then just stopping everything altogether may convince a girl that she was mistaken. Everyone's saying that it's emotional manipulation, I was saying that it's within my rights to do so. | /r/MensRights | 26/01/12 07:40 AM |
| 0 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want toAnd these people are making the laws in this country. | /r/MensRights | 26/01/12 06:14 AM |
| 0 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want toHmm. I guess it's only original posts that have the downvote button removed. | /r/MensRights | 26/01/12 06:13 AM |
| -3 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want toIt was on SRSDiscussion. The (semi) honest, intellectual sister of SRS. They actually have some half-decent discussions there. No downvote button, different mods, and they don't have inane subreddit flair like "creeper" or "rapist". | /r/MensRights | 26/01/12 05:57 AM |
| 4 | SRS is telling me, a man, that I'm not allowed to stop physical intimacy with a girl even if I want toAnother gem: There is no such thing as "blue balls." It's a complete fabrication and saying otherwise makes you a liar. | /r/MensRights | 26/01/12 05:47 AM |
| 2 | Ending the Last Minute Resistance controversy with SRSBut the thing is, SRSDiscussion are completely different and separate from SRS. SRS is meant for like minded people to make fun of everyone else, but SRSDiscussion is like Bestof, TrueReddit, and DepthHub in that the whole point is to have an honest debate. | /r/seduction | 25/01/12 09:38 AM |
| 1 | I think the seddit community needs to be more aware of this. Beware the new definition of rape.Duke Lacrosse players and Hofstra false rape allegations. Look them up. | /r/seduction | 25/01/12 09:18 AM |
| 3 | What the f*** just happened?Wait, so he was direct and upfront with you. And you said no. Then he properly interacted with you, and then you said yes. I don't understand how that contradicts what Rahms said. Rahms said that being direct usually doesn't work, but the method in which you interact with a girl can earn you a yes. Edit: Furthermore, that guy who wooed you over just exhibited a form of breaking through LMR. He tried to kiss you. You resisted. He performed a series of interactions, then tried again. You didn't re… | /r/seduction | 25/01/12 08:47 AM |
| 1 | On HumorI see laughter as showing other people your frame and your worldview. The humor comes when people start seeing things your way and not the way that society has conditioned us to see things. | /r/seduction | 25/01/12 02:14 AM |
| 2 | On HumorCorrect me if my interpretation is way off base (I'm still an amateur at this), but I see laughter as showing other people your frame and your worldview. The humor comes when people start seeing things your way and not the way that society has conditioned us to see things. | /r/seduction | 25/01/12 02:13 AM |
| 1 | On HumorIn response to the "creepy" part- the game is based off of every single successful interaction with women. People use seduction, whether they realize it or not. Also, I don't know if you're a girl, but if not, you should understand that guys and girls think in fundamentally different ways. Whether or not a guy uses The Game, he talks to women with SOME sort of game plan, and uses SOME set of underlying principles. The whole purpose of this message board is to fine tune and optimize our game plan… | /r/seduction | 25/01/12 02:11 AM |
| 1 | Neil Strauss IAMA on Tuesday Feb 14th 12PM Noon ESTI agree. I actually want to see all of his responses to critics. I would especially want him to talk to people about "Last Minute Resistance", and why it's not rape. That's the main thing that haters hate on. Also, I wanna know if he keeps up to date with all the different ways that the game has evolved, and what he thinks of these new methods. | /r/seduction | 25/01/12 02:06 AM |
| 3 | Let's play a little game: Reframe the person above you.I know. You can find out how amazing I am when we move to the next bar. New: Who are you, and why did you just sit down next to me here at Subway? | /r/seduction | 25/01/12 01:18 AM |
| 3 | RSD Infield footage: Tyler pulls (literally) a stunner from a taxiTwo points: I've always felt that inner game determined potential level of how much you can get laid, while outer game determined how much you actually can get laid. No matter how good your game is, you can never get a girl that's not attracted to you, and no matter how attractive you are, you're not gonna get laid until you can talk your way into the bedroom. I feel like your long quote is spot on. The Game is ultimately about breaking down current social constructs and building new ones in its… | /r/seduction | 23/01/12 08:07 AM |
| 9 | RSD Infield footage: Tyler pulls (literally) a stunner from a taxiI paused the video and started rolling over laughing at the "I'm not gonna listen to this purse shit test" part. | /r/seduction | 23/01/12 03:05 AM |
| 2 | [FR] - I've failed you Seddit but I frozeI'm still an armchair PUA myself. All I wanna say is congrats on making the approach. Keep doing it, and you'll eventually relax and learn to keep the conversation going naturally. That's my philosophy, anyway. | /r/seduction | 19/01/12 05:50 AM |
| 3 | I teach Pickup. Here's a response I wrote to some hate mail. I receive it almost daily. I hope it entertains you Seddit.Give us a time and a place, I'm interested. | /r/seduction | 16/01/12 12:43 AM |
| 3 | Fun little games that you can play with her to help build attraction? Lets make a list. I got a few:Funny story, I actually WAS in that situation once. I went to Germany, "spoke" to someone who only spoke German and Russian by drawing on a piece of paper and having a guy with really poor English translate for me. We ended up making out. Poor me, this was before Neil Strauss changed my life. I didn't notice any IOIs UNTIL we started making out, and then I desperately tried to escalate WHILE she was walking to her flight. But trust me, being a foreigner means that women will see you as exotic. N… | /r/seduction | 13/01/12 03:13 AM |
| 1 | Fun little games that you can play with her to help build attraction? Lets make a list. I got a few:I was thinking the same exact thing. The only problem is that I would imagine it to be tough to escalate from there. I guess after the game's done, you can go people watching or just continue the conversation, and at that point, you can just put your hand on her closer shoulder while you're interacting with her. The thought just occurred to me that if the topic ever comes to the last time she's been to a doctor for a check-up, you can always jokingly bump the lower end of her knee with your knuc… | /r/seduction | 13/01/12 03:10 AM |
| 4 | Apparently some 4chan user came to the exact same conclusions as Neil Strauss.Then move away from the Tyler Durden "OMG I'm an asshole!" model to the Style's "Demonstrate Higher Value, and follow these steps" model. The way I see game is this: it's just a way to practice your game and analyze what you did wrong and figure out how to improve next time. It's like a map of all your core muscle groups that you use to help tone your body. When something's not right, you can just look inside, reflect, and realize which aspect of the game we should improve on. This isn't just a … | /r/seduction | 12/01/12 08:44 AM |
| 3 | Apparently some 4chan user came to the exact same conclusions as Neil Strauss.Being tall, wearing nice clothes, grooming, being healthy, having nice skin, being fit, etc. I meant "presentation" as in either your genes or the stuff you spend between a week and your entire lifetime preparing. Basically, things that you can't immediately change as soon as you look at a girl. | /r/seduction | 12/01/12 08:21 AM |
| 11 | Apparently some 4chan user came to the exact same conclusions as Neil Strauss.I have a theory. No matter how bad the seduction community's PR is, there will always be some forever alones who realize that there's a grain of truth to it, and who are sick of having to deny their sexuality and conform to society's standards of not trying to get sex on the first date or being forced to go into a relationship. So really, all this bad press only increases our ranks. | /r/seduction | 12/01/12 08:18 AM |
| 2 | Apparently some 4chan user came to the exact same conclusions as Neil Strauss.It's just very 1950's to flat out say that women are dumb, inferior beings who can be manipulated by playing with their emotions and that men are some kind of supreme beings. The 4chan OP never said that. What he said was that women respond to certain traits and behaviors, and those traits and behaviors are different from what society teaches men they are, and they're different from what they'd normally tell you if you asked them directly. Sex for women are like relationships for men. In the end… | /r/seduction | 12/01/12 07:56 AM |
| 3 | Apparently some 4chan user came to the exact same conclusions as Neil Strauss.I stand corrected. But I still disagree with your life lessons. Maybe it's the part of the world that you live in, but over in Michigan and NJ, running game on a married woman is like running into a brick wall. I have never had any bf killing techniques work. | /r/seduction | 12/01/12 07:16 AM |
| 0 | Apparently some 4chan user came to the exact same conclusions as Neil Strauss.There's Game that helps people get into LTRs, too. This doesn't scratch the surface of all the material that's out there, and it doesn't get into specific tactics, but it's the attitude that opens a lot of people's eyes. If i had to guess, 90% of us are here for the one night stands, and 10% of us are here to learn to build stronger relationships. There's game for both. I outlined the basic tenets of the game in my crosspost over at 2X Chromosomes. | /r/seduction | 12/01/12 07:07 AM |
| 20 | Apparently some 4chan user came to the exact same conclusions as Neil Strauss.My thoughts exactly. So women won't cheat at the "drop of a dime". They also won't cheat if it's a happy relationship. By no means do I think that stealing someone's girlfriend is impossible, but I'm pretty sure that there are certain conditions that need to arise before it's within the realm of a PUA to steal that girl. | /r/seduction | 12/01/12 07:03 AM |
| 21 | Apparently some 4chan user came to the exact same conclusions as Neil Strauss.Dude, I call bullshit. I checked your comment history- you just got dumped after a 4 year relationship, and apparently you're "suffering from nice guy syndrome". Sure, be a douchebag. Fake it 'til you make it, I know. But at least be a little bit more down to Earth. | /r/seduction | 12/01/12 06:23 AM |
| 5 | Apparently some 4chan user came to the exact same conclusions as Neil Strauss.It probably depends on the guys looks/personality/Demonstration of higher value, along with the local population density and the level of happiness in the relationship. The way I see it is, everything besides the "Attraction" stage of seduction (i.e. exactly what you can say to a girl and how you adjust your body language to get her to be with you) is only about 10% of seduction. 90% is looks, preparation, and presentation. | /r/seduction | 12/01/12 06:03 AM |
| 18 | Apparently some 4chan user came to the exact same conclusions as Neil Strauss.No. You're not gonna snag a girl away if she's been married for 10 years. You're not gonna snag a girl away if she spends 75% of her time with her bf. Let's be realistic here instead of pretending that we're all Brad Pitt's and Neil Strauss's hypothetical children. | /r/seduction | 12/01/12 05:39 AM |
| 21 | Apparently some 4chan user came to the exact same conclusions as Neil Strauss.I'll admit that part's probably wrong. Then again, this guy probably lives in a major city. City girls are different than country girls. From what I've seen, the rules are different when you know you're probably not gonna see a person again. | /r/seduction | 12/01/12 05:32 AM |
| 15 | Apparently some 4chan user came to the exact same conclusions as Neil Strauss.Hey, it's a start. | /r/seduction | 12/01/12 05:30 AM |
| 14 | Apparently some 4chan user came to the exact same conclusions as Neil Strauss.No, no, no. No swarms. We don't need another one of these wars. | /r/seduction | 12/01/12 05:23 AM |
| 2 | Apparently some 4chan user came to the exact same conclusions as Neil Strauss.I don't have that much experience with women, but I wouldn't go THAT far. | /r/seduction | 12/01/12 05:21 AM |
| 3 | Apparently some 4chan user came to the exact same conclusions as Neil Strauss.Dude, you must have read my mind. We'll see what happens. Hopefully I don't get permanently banned. | /r/seduction | 12/01/12 05:04 AM |
| 5 | Amazingly, an honestly self-aware girl (x-post from /r/funny)Saved. I am going to reflect on this statement for the next few days. | /r/seduction | 10/01/12 02:01 PM |
| 4 | (girl here) How do I answer the "out of my league" rejection?This is the best answer, I think. Granted, PUA material is generally geared towards guys hitting on girls, but I think the psychology would work the other way around. The basic gist of the qualification stage is this: after attraction has been build, you're suppose to give him some subtle tests to see if he's worthy of hooking up with you. During conversation, saying things like, "I like guys who work out" or "I like guys who have goals in life" or "I'm not a fan of men who have addictions". In … | /r/seduction | 09/01/12 06:05 AM |
| 1 | are we slowly coming to the conclusion that "game" doesn't exist?That's reasonable. But since it would be quite difficult to do this, I think we should try the methods of people who've done it before. Especially since the "be yourself" mantra isn't specific enough and doesn't exactly work all the time. Try giving Mystery Method's Magic Bullets a read. I know you're not a fan of evolutionary psychology, but it incorporates a lot of that into the techniques. It reads like an introductory science textbook, complete with models and everything. And the thing is, i… | /r/seduction | 06/01/12 11:02 AM |
| 1 | are we slowly coming to the conclusion that "game" doesn't exist?How would you make it more scientific? | /r/seduction | 05/01/12 04:58 PM |
| 1 | are we slowly coming to the conclusion that "game" doesn't exist?Means "it is either scientifically rigorous or it's not scientifically rigorous". As opposed to "it is in a sliding scale of scientific rigor, where it can be more scientifically rigorous than X but less scientifically rigorous than Y". | /r/seduction | 05/01/12 01:51 PM |
| 1 | are we slowly coming to the conclusion that "game" doesn't exist?Read this article from the New Yorker and learn that the scientific rigor is not a binary metric but a continuous spectrum. | /r/seduction | 05/01/12 12:50 PM |
| 1 | are we slowly coming to the conclusion that "game" doesn't exist?That is not science and that is not the scientific method. Here is a list of reasons why. That's a list of cognitive biases that can corrupt the scientific method. In the scientific world, especially in psychology, physiology, and medicinal sciences, this is corrected through repeated experiments and peer review. Both of which are present in the pick-up world. Or do you mean to tell me that "being yourself" is a more scientific approach? And don't tell me that neither of them approach an experim… | /r/seduction | 05/01/12 03:56 AM |
| 2 | Wanted to share my story of going from socially anxious to a guy who's had sex with 7 women in the last year...This is amazing! Let me ask you this: have you had any success with women when you WEREN'T nervous to go up to them? Or does the nervousness make you look and act in a way that makes you better at picking up girls? | /r/seduction | 04/01/12 10:25 PM |
| 1 | are we slowly coming to the conclusion that "game" doesn't exist?Ah, the search for the secret formula. What happens when everybody knows it? I would imagine that whoever can apply the formula the best and the most efficiently would win the girl. Neither do I, I just don't see any science here. Maybe a little evolutionary psychology but that is on the softer end of psychology's "science" spectrum because it is purely hypothetical and it's hypotheses cannot be tested. Neurolinguistic programming, on the other hand, is a very good example of a money spinner tha… | /r/seduction | 04/01/12 09:23 PM |
| 2 | are we slowly coming to the conclusion that "game" doesn't exist?To me, the difference between "art" and "science" is that art depends on the practitioners instinct, the practitioner gets a basic "feel" of what works and what doesn't. What the seduction community is trying to do is slowly take away the aspect where you have to "get a feel" for how seduction works, and move it towards what tangible inputs and outputs are necessary to make it work. It's not perfect, but I have no reservations against injecting science into what is commonly referred to as art. A… | /r/seduction | 04/01/12 06:15 AM |
| 1 | Share Some of Your Worst Crash-and-BurnsI went up to an HB8 at a bar sitting with another guy and an HB5. Later on I found out the guy was her husband. I opened HB8 with an ESP routine. I said that her purple shirt was magical, and I was going to prove it. Told her to pick a number from 1-10, multiply by 9, add the digits together, and subtract 5. She literally asked me if she was on a game show, chuckling the entire time. Then her female friend pointed out that the buzzer I was holding was ringing, so my wings were ready. Came back l… | /r/seduction | 04/01/12 03:19 AM |
| 2 | are we slowly coming to the conclusion that "game" doesn't exist?I enjoyed every word of this. | /r/seduction | 04/01/12 02:53 AM |
| 3 | are we slowly coming to the conclusion that "game" doesn't exist?Just because it doesn't analyze typical, physical variables like most scientific endeavors doesn't mean that it doesn't have anything to contribute to the the science of seduction. For the following purposes, let's define "social frames" as the emotion, thought, or idea that is dominant among a group in a short time span. i.e. When Neil DeGrasse Tyson speaks in front of a large audience, he controls the frame. When you go home to find your entire family crying over recent news of a lost one, and… | /r/seduction | 04/01/12 02:27 AM |
| 2 | are we slowly coming to the conclusion that "game" doesn't exist?I'll take bro-science over sissy-religion. Yes, confidence works. But it's important to understand HOW it works. To quote Badboy's seduction guide: There is a concept from NLP that says that in any situation, there is a mental “frame” that essentially sets what the reality is. The most simple example is the glass half empty/half full analogy. Same situation; one person sees a reality of abundance, the other scarcity. How we frame things in our own mind literally shapes how we experience the worl… | /r/seduction | 03/01/12 05:39 AM |
| 1 | Awesome FR from workThanks! I've never even heard of Gambler. Now I'm gonna do some research on him. | /r/seduction | 30/12/11 07:12 PM |
| 2 | Still can't talk...help!I like my situational openers. If she's fumbling with her purse: "Wow, I'm glad I'm not a girl. Then I'd have to deal with having a purse". Even something simple like "You're tall" has worked for me in the past. Opinion openers are great conversation starters. "I was having an argument with a friend. If we were stuck in the zombie apocalypse, would we need a car to survive, or could we make due with a bike?". "Which decade created more nostalgia? The 80s or the 90s?". Contrary to what people are… | /r/seduction | 30/12/11 10:57 AM |
| 2 | [FR] K-close through 2 gatekeepers,including an ex-boyfriendWow. You're alpha as fuck. Questions: How did you convince her to come to a lone corner? How did you grab her? Did you say anything to her before you took her to a secluded place? Did she show you show any indicators of interest as soon as you started chatting? Or did you have to talk for a little bit before she starting showing signs of attraction? During the initial conversation, did you do any teasing? Any negging? Anything to make her laugh? Or was it just a normal conversation? Was there an… | /r/seduction | 30/12/11 10:43 AM |
| 2 | Awesome FR from workGood info. The way I was acting - flirting but with a serious expression - made her find me cute I've noticed a trend where if my words don't match with my facial expressions/body language (as in deadpan humor, or calling a girl beautiful without cracking a smile, or calling a girl average looking while staring at her like she's the most beautiful thing on the planet), this actually ends up intriguing a girl and making her want to talk to me more. It's almost as if the cognitive dissonance confu… | /r/seduction | 30/12/11 10:19 AM |
| 1 | Awesome FR from workAbout the ass grab: What was the general demographic of the person who did it? Do you have an estimate of her age? What type of clothing was she was wearing? Was she goth/fancy-dressing/emo/typical teen wasp? What exactly did she see you do that turned her on? What happened afterwords? Did she smile at you? Was eye contact made? If you weren't working, would there be an opportunity to chat with her further? Or did she just do it for fun or to get a reaction? As someone who's trying to find the m… | /r/seduction | 30/12/11 06:35 AM |
| 3 | Zarathustra (Nietzsche) on Chasing vs. AttractingOne should speak about women only to men. Is this advice we should take when dealing with the haters over at r/TwoXChromosomes and r/ShitRedditSays? | /r/seduction | 30/12/11 05:48 AM |
| 3 | Men should develop an Anti-Care DefenseThis is something that should be emphasized more in PUA literature. WOMEN ARE MIND READERS! It's really important for men to get their inner game straight and to get in state before sarging. Cause women can see right through bullshit. | /r/seduction | 24/12/11 09:12 PM |
| 2 | [FR] Hit it Off With Girl, But Was So Out Of State And Fucked It UpWhat I've been doing lately is looking at myself in the mirror after getting dressed up and refusing to leave the mirror until I convince myself that I'm hot shit. The mentality I'm trying to obtain by doing this is this: Out of everybody in the room, the person I want to fuck the most is ME. Because I'm hot shit. If any lady wants to join in on my sex fest, that's fine with me. If you're looking more for love than sex, then look in the mirror, make eye contact, and don't leave until you convinc… | /r/seduction | 24/12/11 08:42 PM |
| 3 | Good opener?Yes. This needs to be spammed all around 9gag. | /r/seduction | 24/12/11 08:19 PM |
| 1 | Interested to hear what seddit has to say about this: men's magazine quote or convicted rapist quote?Thanks! | /r/seduction | 15/12/11 04:57 AM |
| 1 | Interested to hear what seddit has to say about this: men's magazine quote or convicted rapist quote?Awesome. Posture isn't too much of a problem for me since I used to be in the military, but I suppose I should work on my voice and my facial expressions to get a good first impression from a girl. | /r/seduction | 15/12/11 04:43 AM |
| 1 | Interested to hear what seddit has to say about this: men's magazine quote or convicted rapist quote?I think that's gonna be my mantra when I go out to bars during spring break. "Meet people, be cool, and act like Brad Pitt". Thanks. | /r/seduction | 15/12/11 04:30 AM |
| 0 | Interested to hear what seddit has to say about this: men's magazine quote or convicted rapist quote?Completely irrelevant question: Are you a natural PUA, or did you learn? How much reading did it take? How much practice did it take? | /r/seduction | 15/12/11 04:16 AM |
| 1 | Interested to hear what seddit has to say about this: men's magazine quote or convicted rapist quote?I just got done arguing against quite a few people on SRS today. Got labelled a creeper. I argued that giving a little sex to a long-term partner even if you're not in the mood for it shouldn't be classified as rape. I also said that PUAs teach basic social skills to people to help them with the opposite sex. I must've lost 100 karma points today. Seriously, they really are a bunch of close-minded circlejerkers. | /r/seduction | 15/12/11 03:42 AM |
| 28 | Guys, we need to talk about this. It's time for some hard reflection.I'm gonna try to learn to pick up women first. | /r/seduction | 15/12/11 03:24 AM |
| 0 | IAMA mPUA with Aaron Sleazy. Ask me anything you want!Sorry if this is late, but, Have you ever been with a girl that was initially unattracted to you? Have you ever been able to build attraction as opposed to exploiting attraction that's already there? What's your take on street game? i.e. picking up girls walking in random directions on the street? | /r/seduction | 09/12/11 10:42 AM |
| 1 | this guy knows how it's done.You gotta show some people why the seduction community exists. | /r/seduction | 03/12/11 05:01 AM |
| 1 | this guy knows how it's done.Keep in mind that most Redditors hate this subreddit and hate the fact that we exist to help men get women. | /r/seduction | 03/12/11 04:01 AM |
| 2 | Theory on Why Most Girls Don't Seem Interested in Hooking Up at Bars and ClubsNow the question remains, how do us guys capture her interest and build enough attraction to make her consider you an option? | /r/seduction | 26/11/11 07:25 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Talking my way into a closed partyProps for getting in. I remember an old thread here that talks about how the basic tenets of seduction- body language, voice tonality, adding value, building attraction, gaining rapport, etc. help in other areas of life, such as business. In fact, Neil "Styles" Strauss, the author of "The Game" that brought the seduction community into a bigger light, was actually contacted by the FBI to help them train their agents in the art of seduction so they can conduct their field duties better. I, for on… | /r/seduction | 20/11/11 11:34 PM |
| 1 | [FR] I'm apparently still not getting itThere was one last set that I failed with. She was an HB8 dressed pretty slutty with a thin, worn down tank top that made her black bra clearly visible through the fabric and on the sides where the fabric wouldn't cover it up. I tried making eye contact with her early in the night, but couldn't. She didn't notice me. Later on, while she was sitting outside on the porch, I asked her if she was invited to the party because of X reason, which was why I and most of everyone else was there (I'm keepi… | /r/seduction | 20/11/11 11:27 PM |
| 3 | An epiphany that hit me while talking to some of my friends who are naturals and have never learned any PU materialI'm sorry, I was under the impression that you were talking about "naturals" that do what they do based on instinct, and have never put into words the exact techniques that they use to pick up girls. I absolutely agree. Redditors have no right to hate this subreddit when posts like this make the front page. | /r/seduction | 19/11/11 09:51 AM |
| 2 | An epiphany that hit me while talking to some of my friends who are naturals and have never learned any PU materialNot really. Most of them just usually say "be yourself" and "be more confident", which really doesn't help anyone. | /r/seduction | 19/11/11 05:06 AM |
| 2 | The world is full of women who want to get laid and can't.Which is why the purpose of the Game is to: Make her think that sex is HER idea, not yours; Never openly mention sex out loud, except to make fun of HER when SHE brings it up Freeze her out whenever she thinks you're trying to escalate. And don't escalate until the escalation is seen as an "accident" A la the Vin Di Carlo escalation ladder ...among other techniques. Yes, game is complex, but we have a bunch of top-notch scientists working on it. | /r/seduction | 19/11/11 04:32 AM |
| 2 | 2 girls at the same time.Not exactly helpful advice, but if the OP could set up a dual induction massage, then things would get pretty interesting... | /r/seduction | 17/10/11 11:31 AM |
| 2 | Help me improve my game! Point out my flaws, BE BRUTALI just found a great resource on how to text a girl. The objectives are to either: Build rapport and comfort, or Set up a meet. Some Do's and Don'ts: Don’t Beat around the bush. Text without having an objective. Send lots and lots of texts. Get wordy or longwinded. Do Be direct and straightforward. Text with your objective in mind. Send a handful of well-planned texts. Be precise and concise. The way to format a text is: A greeting. Her name. A piece of new information. Something that shows you’… | /r/seduction | 17/10/11 11:13 AM |
| 5 | [Part Two] Eye Contact: YouAwesome post, man. I'm going to use this advice not just with seduction, but in everyday interactions as well. This has applicability in all aspects of social interaction. Now I'm beginning to understand why Neil Strauss is using these principles of seduction to train FBI agents. | /r/seduction | 17/10/11 10:22 AM |
| 1 | [FR] following up on success is hard: hours of approach, got nowhereYou're right,#2 seemed like a toughie. I assume that you were going for the HB9 by chatting it up with the HB5 and ignoring HB9? I think what Neil Strauss does is just chat with HB9's friends in a friendly, but not flirty, way. As in, talking about what's fun to do in the area, hobbies, interests, etc. What probably went wrong there is that HB5 thought that you were hitting on her. Just a disclaimer, I'm new to this, so I'm no expert. | /r/seduction | 17/10/11 09:58 AM |
| 3 | How should I boost my nightclub game?I think the FR from this guy should help out quite a bit. Here are the lessons that he's given everybody: Engage women’s friends. You’ll last longer because they might steal your target away. Don’t bring up school/work during the first 2 minutes of opening. Unresponsive women are either really shy or not interested. Need to learn how to distinguish them both. Make up your own opener in the moment. Never use a predetermined/predefined opener you read somewhere in a book. If a guy tries to steal a… | /r/seduction | 17/10/11 09:49 AM |
| 2 | DeAngelo: 124 SECONDS EVERY GUY SHOULD HEAR"Men have all their lives to build status, and thus attraction" More motivation for me to quit smoking and fapping. | /r/seduction | 02/10/11 07:28 AM |
© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.
created by /u/dream-hunter