Apparently some 4chan user came to the exact same conclusions as Neil Strauss.

huyvanbin · 2012-01-12T03:27:10+00:00

I read this on sosuave years ago . . . seems like one of those internet things. I don't know if I believe it, to be honest. 80% success rate? I probably couldn't get a girl to tell me the time with an 80% success rate.

remygibson · 2012-01-12T04:58:32+00:00

I like the fact that he doesn't use any of the lingo, and that he encompasses a wide range of the manosphere from mystery to roissy.

JRAlpha · 2012-01-12T03:27:26+00:00

Textbook stuff really. he sounds like a PUA hiding the fact he is a PUA. maybe 4chan will get laid more now that they repost this in oblivion.

raegx · 2012-01-12T16:53:00+00:00

Eh, I will make a post for the older crowd with a little more temper and, hopefully, a little more even of a hand. I am ~30 and in my early twenties I did what most of you young pups (haha for comedic effect, I'm not that old) are talking about and the out look the 4chan post has. Whether it is real or not, there are some things in there some people might have fears about.

As women get older they get a little more practical. Will some still cheat? Sure. Have I accidentally made a married woman attracted to me and probably willing to sleep with me? Sure. But each one was unhappy with their life. (I didn't sleep with them, I don't do married)

Firstly is the girl herself. Women, despite what the article says, do have loyalty and are not driven 100% by their emotions. In my opinion they are more emotional than men and in some cases some women are more driven by their emotions than others. As others have said, there is a bit of confirmation bias with the general PUA content. You will naturally pick up sluttier girls, because...well they are slutty. Slutty girls tend to cheat because, again and I hope you are following me, they are slutty.

Secondly, that is not to say that cheating girls are all slutty. Some girls are just unhappy with their boyfriend/husband or are settling. On top of that some people aren't strong enough to leave a stable relationship when they are settling/aren't happy. It was marginalized in the reposted 4chan shot, but it comes down to the boyfriend/husbands skill vs the PUA. If you have game, have game with your girlfriend/wife. Even if the PUA is a better PUA than you, you do have something he doesn't. Years of memories, hopefully financial stability, and value as a friend. So, take your wife/girlfriend different places, give her different emotions, etc. Minutes do not replace years unless the relationship is already going south or the girl is unhappy. Essentially, devote yourself to picking up your girlfriend/wife. Seduce her into having sex with you in a car.

A good women is only yours as long as you decide to work at keeping her. Rings and words mean nothing without effort. I see so many relationships these days with man-boys at the helm (grown men who act like boys) who give their woman every reason to cheat or give the reason slowly with years of boredom and monotony. All of which probably helps w/ the prevalence of cheating stories.

tl;dr Use your game on your SO and she won't have reason to cheat unless she is a bad egg.

yokhai · 2012-01-12T06:15:13+00:00

Nearly felt like I wrote that at one stage, the amount of girls who I make out with who have boyfriends is astonishing.

ddxxdd · 2012-01-12T08:34:32+00:00

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solen-skiner · 2012-01-12T10:25:35+00:00

"But... but... I'm so nice! I'm a nice guy!" Guess what? That's like a fat chick saying, "But I'm so smart!" As if those things have anything in the world to do with sexual attraction!

gabriot · 2012-01-12T18:53:09+00:00

I refuse to believe that all women are just mindless emotional beings that can be controlled like this.

Yes there are probably fuckloads that are this way. But there are plenty of intelligent stable beautiful women out there who hold themselves to certain standards.

Just because you see something happen a lot, doesn't mean that's always the case. I'm sure jews in Nazi germany had a very bleak view of blonde hair blue eyed people, but that doesn't mean that there wasn't a few aryan germans there that didn't buy into Hitler's bullshit.

Society goes through phases and the sheep all follow blindly, but there are always those out there that have a brain for themselves. Don't let this shit ruin your view, just let it make you cautious.

Confido · 2012-01-12T05:29:41+00:00

Am I naive to think any of this is wrong? Specifically the part about women cheating at the drop of a hat.

1trkminds · 2012-01-12T06:38:01+00:00

When you want to get someone who has never been exposed to reading PUA material to read it, stuff like this is great. It lets them realize their inability without going through the some of the hard self scrutiny.

Ive met guys who would rather not get laid than read pua material and spit on it as childish. However theyre desperate and my friends so I i drop them something like this. Pua material without the label

Suburban_Shaman · 2012-01-12T14:11:18+00:00

Listen men:

If you want the kind of woman that this guy is talking about than yes. This will work.

If you actually want someone with a hint of self-respect and intelligence this is not going to work. Sorry. No wonder he can't find a "decent woman" to settle down with.

Me: woman, 25, NEVER cheated - I get slightly uncomfortable hugging male friends. I'm not perfect but I'm not completely bat-shit unreasonable.

You know why 22 year old women are having more sex that 22 year old men? 100% success rates. Women are picky men.... only if you're puggly and even then you have better shots than every man in the bar.

Can I introduce you fine 'gents to an actual completely illogical social phenomenon I noticed in my female college age peers:

THE NUMBERS RULE This basically means if you sleep with a girl once she will be welcome to sleeping with you multiple times (unless you were absolutly terrible).

Women are not worried about having "too" much sex but rather having "too many" partners. No one wants to be the first to go into double digits or be the first to hit 20 and then so on.

They don't want to stop having sex because sex is awesome but they don't want to be perceived as sluts by their peers so they rationalize this by keeping the number of men they have slept with low and the number of sexual incidences with each man high.

Women are also open to fuck buddies, they just avoid flings because then its a number increase for just one incident making it less worthwhile.

ddxxdd · 2012-01-12T05:20:28+00:00

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Belgian_Rofl · 2012-01-12T05:02:38+00:00

Sounds like he's more on Ross Jefferies than Strauss.

abadgaem · 2012-01-12T08:13:23+00:00

This is why the PUA community has bad PR. You don't need to be a sexist piece of shit to get laid. That's just you being an asshole.

espanabarca · 2012-01-12T14:43:32+00:00

Alternatively for easy lays, just work out.

I was auschwitz mode throughout my teens. I did get the occasional girl that would have a crush on me, but nothing beyond that.

Towards the end of high school, I started working out. Now, I'm no zyzz or CR7, but I would say I'm better looking than the average joe. A legion of pussy is unlocked upon you if you groom yourself and you stay healthy (see workout). It's on you to grow a pair, take some chances, and get laid.

Just my 5cents. In the end, I stand by my statement that you don't need to be good looking to get laid, you just need to be confident. But holy hell, looking good sure gives you an advantage over everyone else.

JooksKIDD · 2012-01-12T17:11:00+00:00

Great advice. And he is so right about not asking women for relationship advice. They only tell you what they want to hear and not what they actually respond too.

dope_monkey · 2012-01-12T05:03:36+00:00

Post this in 2xchromosome ... for the lulz

Also i love to show my friends that are girls this stuff, and totally call them on their shit.

Whopper_Jr · 2012-01-12T14:57:52+00:00

It's shit like this that makes me completely okay with being Forever Alone.

unoriginalsin · 2012-01-12T08:49:28+00:00

2012-01-12T18:55:41+00:00

Oh, great. I somehow feel there's a difference between seduction as a hobby and constantly manipulating women into sex. The guy who wrote that doesn't view women as human beings, just as pussies with some defence barriers around them.

dakevs · 2012-01-12T19:28:04+00:00

Regardless of whether it's true or not, this shit is cool as fuck to read. I'm going to take it to heart.

PartisanHack · 2012-01-12T06:53:53+00:00

Is this what you guys really believe? Because that reads like some frustrated jerk happening on a bunch of women with daddy issues and taking advantage of them by being emotionally manipulative and abusive.

Which I guess works for one night stands.

But geez, guys. Have some respect.

InferiousX · 2012-01-12T06:57:29+00:00

This...is pretty much where I'm at.

I love his comparison to the Matrix pills. In my quest to become better with women, I have begun to think so much "less" of them than before I started. I have yet to honestly cope with their differences and just accept them as the beings they are.

Although it has drastically changed my perspective on what I want for a wife. I want a woman who is capable of raising children in a truly loving manner and able to pass on traits of kindness. Not much thought on her "loyalty" to me or what I get out of the deal. Which....becomes much less selfish of a goal.

Ebtn · 2012-01-12T09:52:45+00:00

So 1/5 women aren't egocentric? No surprise there.

rpcrazy · 2012-01-12T17:39:46+00:00

All of this becomes irrelevant when you realize sex is superficial and really only the beginning...

PixelatumGenitallus · 2012-01-12T04:42:32+00:00

unable to see it on Hover Zoom
right click, open in New Tab
upvote first, look at New Tab later because it's 4chan, reddit's primordial soup.

anonymous_hero · 2012-01-12T11:49:24+00:00

What the fuck is this thread? Come on, people. The boaster is probably full of shit anyway.

badboybeyer · 2012-01-12T09:26:53+00:00

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shivalry · 2012-01-12T11:50:35+00:00

This is fucking gross. "I wasn't sexist before I understood women, but now the world has changed to make generalizing about an entire gender make sense." Stupid, stupid mindset. Not that he doesn't have decent ideas about how to attract women, but nothing new.

shivalry · 2012-01-12T11:53:34+00:00

This thread is full of fail.

2012-01-12T06:00:59+00:00

Tl;dr ?

Title	Apparently some 4chan user came to the exact same conclusions as Neil Strauss.
Author	ddxxdd
Upvotes	375
Comments	244
Date	January 12, 2012 2:59 AM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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