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Well the English language didn't exist, so that's pretty much guaranteed. But the concept of chastity pre-ceded English. Nevertheless there's no culture in the world that has ever applied the current definition of chastity, whereby a man and woman are held to equal standards. Chastity was sexist. Nor has there ever been a culture doesn't specifically and exclusively apply adultery to a man sleeping with a married woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:31 PM
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No, that's you applying your modern world view to feel justified in your a-typical position in history. This fallacious thinking stems from scholastic cowardice and intellectual dishonesty. It's no different than somehow rationalizing that some obscure passage in the Bible validates abortion or homosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:06 PM
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The only reason you're arriving at that conclusion that it is not possible is because you are correctly asserting an incorrect definition of what marital chastity meant historically. The incorrect definition that you're asserting is the modern Christian concept that chastity applies to both men and women. This was never the case in pre-Abrahamic cultures, this was never the case in the Old Testament and this was never explicitly the case in the New Testament. The only definition of adultery is m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:00 PM
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There's no correlation between the two. Many societies have had prostitution side by side with marital chastity. It's actually an abnormality for the two not to coexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:44 AM
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Cold approaching had a relatively short time span. That was basically the PUA Roosh V days. That died when dating apps took off. The men that would have approached then now just stay at home and line up bangs on Tinder. And women didn't help but kill this off with Me Too. It's never coming back.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:40 AM
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I don't watch it, but my from what I remember the show is about men who go after underage women. That's not me, obviously. I think it's mean for you to associate what I legally do with what someone illegally does. I like women of legal age. Why are you being mean to me now. Now I'm going to be mean to you. Your mother was stupidly negligent. You probably have autism. And I'm allowed to legally and democratically vote away your bodily autonomy. Don't ever tell me to not mind a woman's uterus. I k…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:03 AM
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Thanks for being supportive of me liking legal age teen girls (18/19). Most women are mean to me when I say this but you seem more kind about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:54 AM
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I can only assume you're deliberately spreading misinformation as a kind of intrasexual competition to time other women out under some guise of empathy. How very cleverly Machiavellian of you. Or perhaps you're just an anti-natalist like every other woman on here. Age 35 is officially geriatric pregnancy and your chancing of conceiving has already dropped by 50% relative to your 20s. In your 40's chancing of conceiving has dropped by 85% relative to your 20s. And women in their 40's can have an …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:47 AM
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Your mother is an extreme anomaly. Why do you use such an extreme anomaly as a refutation?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 09:14 PM
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Men care about fertility. It's possible for a woman to be younger and less attractive and this is satisfactory for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:30 PM

Concentration camps? What are you a nazi? I said 1990s. Get out of here with your white supremacist bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:35 PM

You need to go through a reeducation camp. I can tell that you have all these ideas already about what's normal and not normal. They had these camps back in the 90's where they used to send people with weird ideas about who to date. About time we brought that back. It worked in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:31 PM

Because we can big dick everyone else. Did you see what we just did to Iran. No lube was used.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:26 PM

Man you're on that other shit. No wonder you don't think about kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:22 PM

You belong in a psych ward.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:19 PM

They don't need to believe it to subconsciously intuitively do it. Look at ghettos across America.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:18 PM

That's kinda harsh. What gives?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:17 PM

Because they both depend on the same thing. Assholes depend on the welfare state for their children to not starve. Feminism depends on the welfare state for their children to not starve. You can't penalize men by retracting this dependency without also penalizing women. The end of money given by the government to women is the end of feminism. There's no version of feminism anywhere in the world that doesn't have government intervention of subsidizing this lifestyle. This is why feminism doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:16 PM

Real men have this thing called testosterone. It's basically what make all genes spread in the known universe. There are other "men" (if you can call them that) that don't think about this at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:13 PM
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Because that's what happened in the 19th century.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:49 AM
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This woman has an ugly horse face. You couldn't pay me to look at her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:12 AM
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That's you (hint).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:08 AM
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It's what I tell poor losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:04 AM
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Denial helps you sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:01 AM
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Correcto.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:53 AM
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You're bad at life, delete your account.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:53 AM
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The kids will learn young who their marks are to exploit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:51 AM
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The old in out in out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:50 AM
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Usually the family and friends are equally piece of shit degenerates. These people don't go to church.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:49 AM
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Intelligent men know how to legally not pay taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:47 AM
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They are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:46 AM
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Bluepill position. Most children from asshole fathers starved in the 19th century.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:45 AM
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Leave the man alone. Don't project your morality no him. He's a great example of the kind of man you women tacitly support. You should be praising him for his accomplishments.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:38 PM
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I really forgot to add this point to my main post. Women will also encourage all Bluepill men to raise another asshole's kid as a badge of honor. So the strategy is very fool proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:27 PM
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Do too. Vote for Timmy to starve or that's the bluepill in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:25 PM
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Yeah basically it makes Thailand look like Sweden.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:24 PM
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You don't have to talk about men who do this in such a disparaging way. After all you vote for every single law that allows them to do it. You could repeal the laws tomorrow if you wanted. So until you do, you should respect these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:22 PM
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This guy gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:20 PM
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Bad comparison. There's really no penalty for fathering children you don't invest in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:19 PM
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Conservative men are more likely to let them bite the dust than conservative women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:19 PM
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That's girl talk. Not a historical fact. There's a reason why the term bastard existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:17 PM
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Says the men who are gladly raising other men's kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:16 PM
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Look, it's simple. Your voting pattern reflects what you actually think. You don't get to preach "X" and then vote "Y".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:15 PM
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No bluepill man will do this so that ensures that anyone else can really do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:13 PM
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Welp. It is what it is. Filipino food is ass though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:13 PM
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His point is that you should view the post in an intellectual way where you model concepts independent of your own situation instead of like an animal that just reacts by instincts to it's own local stimuli.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:12 PM
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If they don't vote against it then they certainly do. Talk is cheap. Welfare is still around. No mystery why.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:51 PM
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Philippines is a great place for this. But you can always start in America and then go there. This way you seed two continents.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:49 PM
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For 2. ask any bluepill man on here if they're OK with letting other men's children die due to starvation. 100% will put on a hero cape to proudly rescue those children with passion. 100% of them will not vote for laws that remove all forms of welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:47 PM
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Which proves my point, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:42 PM
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If you ask any woman if it's OK to let children starve to death they'll say no. You'll not find a conservative women that says "I don't want to pay for it and I'm fine if no one else wants to pay for it - some children just starve and that's life".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:40 PM
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Look up single mother statistics to get an idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:32 PM
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Women's stupidity or naivety can cover the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:30 PM
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Hard to extract money from a broke ass pot smoker who has none. Prison means free lunches and no work. Meanwhile little Timmy will starve in the meantime and bluepill taxpayers will cover the tab. Can also just go to some other shithole country.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:29 PM
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Just disney prince the woman and leave in a late trimester. No R required. But yes, a red state does improve the odds with abortion ban.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:26 PM
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Yes there would be fewer families. If the kids die of starvation, it's no longer a family. Kids who died of starvation can't become gang bangers. And since women and bluepill men will never allow kids to die that I don't give a flying fuck about - this strategy works.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:20 PM
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Party like a rockstar till then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:10 PM
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If the incentive is to spread genes without effort, then you remove the incentive. Essentially without modern welfare your children would die. But women (and bluepill men) will never allow this solution to happen. So the strategy cannot be defeated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:09 PM
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By the way I just want to confirm. Since you are a bluepill guy. If I have five kids that I don't give a shit about, you are willing to take money out of your paycheck to make sure they won't starve right? You're not gonna let my little kids starve right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:06 PM
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Correct. And American women (100%) and bluepill men (100%) vote this way - so it's a strategy guaranteed to work for the foreseeable near term.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:04 PM
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Similar concept but less chance of it being chosen than conventionally lying to get a woman in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:03 PM
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Hard disagree that women are better at language. Women are better at enunciating emotions. The expression of these emotions usually has no logical construction behind them but does take on the form of language. It's the equivalent of an infant bitching. The infant gets what it wants despite being irrational. This is why most women failed classical programming tests (they just threw brute force approaches that failed). Computers don't care about women's emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 09:27 PM
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All men. Remember your own admission. Don't forget what you say. Usually nuns are virgins. God doesn't allow whores to marry him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 09:23 PM
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Stellar logic. A woman will grudgingly shell out chump change in a world of desperate men. Suddenly the same fat whales will be willing to buy a $50,000 appliance once the world of easy dick drys up. Women have never paid for sex in history. Wake up and smell the coffee. If you ran a gigolo brothel you would be bankrupt. If you ran a male porn studio you would be bankrupt. It will be funny when some woman like you uses girl logic to try starting such a company and not a single Leonardo DiCaprio …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 08:32 PM
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And that just explains so brilliantly your jump in logic to women wanting human looking sex robots when they won't even pay penny's on the dollar for 6' tall male gigolo models to fuck them in every country in the entire world. Wake up and smell the coffee. Women who fly to Jamaica that pay to have men fuck them are a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 08:17 PM
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This forum is pathologically obsessed with stating that a need equates directly to advocating for handmaidens tale. If you don't believe this then look at this post where almost 100% of the respondents we're incapable of acknowledging this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:53 PM
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Let's debunk the standard response using it's own logic. "Sex isn't a need like food". It take's 60 days to die from lack of food. "Yeah but food isn't a need like water". It takes 5 days to die from lack of water. "Yeah but water isn't a need like oxygen". It takes 2 minutes to die from lack or oxygen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:45 PM
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They are pay per minute rentable sex slaves. And their pimp is OF.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:30 PM
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No logic was stated above.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:29 PM
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Then you probably also read how young is fun, tight is right and 18/19 is where it's at. The only reason you read my posts is because I got under your skin. You know I'm right when I say that post walls just hate because they're old. You know it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:28 PM
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Doctors make shit compared to what I made. All ugly women always act like they don't care about being ugly. Their career accolades are usually a direct inverse correlation with how ugly they know they are. You know and I know that if she had any actual brains she would be working in the private sector. Always the case. And let this sink in, it's no coincidence that this diversity era hire happened under Biden.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:27 PM
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Women mostly just sit around and send bullshit emails.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:23 PM
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You can already safely and secretively pay a human male. There are $1000 female escorts and can you can damn well find $1000 male gigolos. No gigolo who's livelihood depends on future income is going to compromise safety or secrecy. Just admit it. There's zero overlap between men and women in this specific precedent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:48 AM
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What an incredibly ugly long face woman. No wonder she spent so much time in school - nobody wants to fuck a face like that. In any case NCI has always been a joke. That's where free loader academics go to act like they're curing things. I have no respect for parasites like that ugly woman. Cancer will be cured by a man, presumably one who doesn't work for the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:43 AM
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She didn't agree with me. She insinuated that in unstated situations that the defacto objective reality is whatever is in her head. And if reality contradicts what's in her head it's "lying". Typical women speak. If a man doesn't agree to be monogamous or not date multiple women it's automatically lying even though he never agreed to do otherwise. It's one thing thing if we're talking about a married man who's made vows. It's one thing if a man literally said "we're in a monogamous relationship"…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:38 AM
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This is the mentality of a child. If I make you feel something the universe is at fault for it not manifesting. You know that in Buddhist culture this is basically considered a sin. You're responsible for your own feelings. The objective reality is that the terms of a relationship are never stated by either party. Women are at fault for demanding the universe to mirror an unstated opinion inside their head.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:11 AM
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I didn't say you shouldn't trust them because they are lying. See you jumped the gun there. Women shouldn't be trusted because they totally lack self awareness of what's going on. It's like asking a child a question. Women genuinely believe they're in a monogamous relationship, when they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 01:38 AM

All women same reason. Different expressions of same prime directive under different settings.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:05 PM
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Yes it is a slave. That's obvious. All machines are slaves. And as expected you didn't answer my question. Why don't women pay for the human equivalent already?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:04 PM
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First let's assume you need to pay for this thing. Next let's assume that the thing is basically a slave. Now let's ask a question if there are any human equivalents of this. For men there are strippers, prostitutes, geishas, webcam girls, onlyfans, sugarbabies. These things are used in mass by men. Now the question is, why aren't they used by women? Why is there no male equivalent of these? You can't say these women can't find what they want. Because if you're paying money you're getting the to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 08:40 PM

There are no contradictions. All three scenarios value fulfillment of individual autonomy above all else, albeit under different phases and situations of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 08:29 PM
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Correct. The original red pill is just blue pill flipped from "be nice" to "be an asshole". Both classic blue and classic red assert that you can overcome any obstacle by skill - the skills just reflecting their own philosophy. Neither acknowledges immutable characteristic limitations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 08:24 PM
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What this guy said. 50% of women that claim to be in relationships are actually uknowingly in situationships. You can never use a woman's own testimony as a reference point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 08:20 PM
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By offering AI girlfriend alternatives through VR, MR, robotics. This is the worst the'll ever be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 08:18 PM

AI is going to do to women's work what the industrial revolution did to men's work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 08:14 PM

Women are nihilists that don't care about their genes going extinct. So they're perfectly happy to wait most of their lives for perfection or just happily go extinct. Women have no notion of a legacy or building things beyond their generation as a moral imperative. Similarly women don't care about causing autistic retardation in their children (if they choose to have them). So they're perfectly OK with waiting till peak geriatric pregnancy to roll the dice on having retard children. On the off c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 08:12 PM
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Collective punishment is a real world technique and it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:23 AM
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Suck my dick bitch. You know your wife trained you for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:13 AM
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True that. It's like, look hunny, it's my dick that needs to get hard. Why are you telling my dick what age/race it likes and doesn't like. It knows what it wants!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:42 PM
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When's the last time someone threw a stone at a broken window? Never. It's fun to make beautiful things see ugliness. Call it bridging the cultural divide.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:09 PM
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Let's unpack this. You assume all men don't have backbone and give a flying F about how other people view them. I don't and most other real men with real testosterone don't. The only men who do care about this are blue pill men who have their balls locked up in a cookie jar somewhere by the post-wall monster that snores next to them at night in their dead bedroom. This means that naturally the men who pursue this route are already hardcore idgaf'ers like this guy. Women do look different early 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:06 PM
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This is very much a 2000's ish take that is laughably out of date. The biggest names in porn are independent women on OnlyFans. Nobody put a gun to Bonnie Blue's head to be the most degraded slut by Guinness book world record standards. She did it to herself. Ditto for pornhub. The vast majority of content creators are not from studios. Studios are dying. There are almost no Jenna Jamesons now adays. It's create short clips on PH then lure men to OF. Occasionally some do webcam shows. All entire…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:48 PM

To your second part: Because women want things that robots can't provide. Men want someone nice who fucks on command and throws a sanwhich in. Women desire status, protection and financial support. A robot cannot provide status. It will never be Brad Pit, even if it's modeled off of him. It cannot provide protection because it will be illegal for your appliance to kill humans. It cannot provide financial support because it won't be able to work for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:23 AM
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18/19s are where it's at. If you don't like the law then change it. Such a bitter old woman trying to spoil other girl's fun in the sun. When I'm 50 my taste won't change one iota. You know why? Because that's nature. Go write your congressman little miss upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 04:04 AM
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Nah that's the old cow in you moo mooing. Post wall talk. I like them legal but barely legal, know what I'm saying? An old women isn't perky. 18/19s got perky tits. They're cute. The thing is, even if post-walls staple on bolt-ons, they're never perky. Never youthful. It's strange seeing them chop up their chest to have their uninterested husband try to tell them otherwise. But I guess a resigned husband doesn't have anything else to say when they walk back from the butcher shop looking anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 08:40 PM
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Real men have testosterone and have been enjoying T&A on cave walls since forever. Sorry to say but you're average obese American whale can't compete with an oh so good looking playful flirty 18 year old. It's a night and day visual difference. Most men who settle for these post-walls just run porn in their heads anyways and use their women as compartmentalized fleshlight. Post-walls aren't even good fleshlights because they don't exercise and are incredibly loose. Personally I like my women rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 07:43 PM
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This is mostly false.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 07:14 PM
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Edit: Also, even if somethings a need, it doesn't obligate anyone else to provide it. Which is why I have to purchase my food, water, clothing, and shelter. This is the only part that this post was speaking to. I was not arguing anywhere in the post if something is or is not a need. Almost 100% of people in this thread either ignored this point or suggested that stating something is a "need" also implies an endorsement of getting a stated need by force.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 07:55 PM
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You do realize this is standard gaslighting of an actual inherently male trait. Yes bluepill men will sycophantly agree with you to get in your pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:26 PM
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Great laboratory experiment. This mentality is how female nature is envisioned in some virtual reality. Like it or not there's such a thing as "stated" and "unstated" preferences. And the fact is that the "stated" and "unstated" preferences in women are a contradiction. What women want as an "unstated" preference that they'll never publicly admit to is an involuntary escalation of a man expressing desire in her. They don't want Romeo to say "can I pretty please grab your ass". They want someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:27 AM
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Attractive women: yes Relationships: yes Sex: no Often when men view women attractive women, they're just an isolated ass, boob, etc. So it's possible to look at attractive women while not really thinking about them as human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:30 AM
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Not sure how you arrived at this framing. She's not hot. Nobody says she's hot. And Bezos could have any "hot woman" he actually wanted. When you're amongst the richest men in the world and can have any woman you want, there are a handful of things you can't buy. If you had bothered to look up some of her background you would know they both grew up in the same city. This is likely why he chose her. Something money can't buy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:17 AM
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Mostly chose the range based on an assumption about the OP's target age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:24 AM
1

The premise is ridiculous. It's obviously a thing to signal in other ways. And men shouldn't feel bad about doing that. The whole point of romance is basically to involuntarily escalate. You don't ask to "steal a kiss" (hence the expression genius). You don't ask to grind your dick on her ass during the middle of a dance. She wants that animal and any real man knows how to play the animal. If a "no" or "I didn't want that" comes out later - it's invariably just a woman being ashamed of giving it…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:44 AM
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The male side of the demographic is usually entirely voluntary. They asses the available market and opt out. It's a tradeoff to date or not date post-walls, single moms and perhaps American women in general. Some men voluntarily say "fuck that". Whereas other men go along with these shitty market conditions and pay the consequence later. It's no wonder that 90% of men on r/deadbedrooms, r/survivinginfidelity, etc are blueist of bluepill men out there. That's the real home of bluepill men. There …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:27 AM
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That's what you call pointing out a factually ridiculous statement that you said with a completely straight face? Nice twerking of your schrodinger asshole. I'm sure you pull this act with any objectively stupid thing that comes out of your mouth that suddenly looks retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:42 PM
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And I hate degenerates. Thankfully childless barren postmenopausal "women?" are self-terminating their shitty excuse for a genetic existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:12 AM
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Of course you don't actually respond to anything. This is above your intellectual pay grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:08 AM
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Do not play this game with me. You know what I don't think. And what I don't think is that there's a fucking human being on planet Earth that is 1/4th your size. Extreme bullshit detected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:06 AM
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The experiment was more like 5,000 years. And you can read Sex and Culture by J.D. Unwin to understand that. It's actually more the inverse. Over the last 50 years birth rates have collapsed world wide with this experiment. Any women that selected non-monogamy (serial hookup culture) also selected childlessness in the modern era. This liberal mind virus will be dead in a generation. And the world will return to enforced monogamy. There's no culture in the world that lasts more than three generat…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:03 PM
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Extremely ridiculous question that shows a pathological misunderstanding of the male situation. Men do not say they are "virgins" because it's "ick" to women. Men do not say they are "virgins" in front of men because it lowers their status to other men. Just like most women will not advertise that they have an STD, high body count, history of abortions, or do sexwork. You want to seek them out? Find the ugliest nice guy you know, confirm he's never been on a date with anyone you know. If he's in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:56 PM
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"Sure Jan" ? And it is an ad hom if you aren’t attacking the argument but my word choice. Your argument is that someone 1/4 your size can "drag" you away. I am specifically attacking your argument. You can reframe this statement with any alternative words and I would still attack it because the underlying argument is what I'm attacking, not the words. Admit it, this scenario is utterly and completely impossible. Please describe to me the physical makeup of both people in this scenario that you f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:58 PM
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I pointed to an objective fact that suggested you were lying in a very flippant way. It was not an ad hominem attack. I'm suggesting that if you're lying with something as plainly obvious as this that you're just a troll. Nobody is that fat. And no midgets operate in emergency situations. It's only one of those two possibilites if you are telling the truth. You would have to weigh 680lb if someone 1/4 your weight was dragging you (fat chance at that - no pun intended). You're an extremist liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:07 AM
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1/4 your size, really? No offense, but either you're incredibly fat or a midget dragged you. The average woman in the USA is 170lb. 1/4 of 170lb is ~42lb - sorry no such woman exists. Incredibly unrealistic portrayal of just about everything. Everything written here is neither credible nor persuasive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:34 PM
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The military need to lift people when they have a bullet in their ass and need to be dragged/lifted out of a warzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:42 PM
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I don't know how you would classify any "democracy" that has had historical restrictions then. I say this not as a "gotcha", but as a genuine question of curiosity. If this is your view then you may be obligated to say most "democracies" in history weren't in fact democracies but were "something else", despite being "democratic" for a sizable part of the population. This is the issue with requiring 100% participation to label these things. I see a big difference between early America and the Sov…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:22 PM
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I disagree with your value system. I am pro-inequality as in a "flat reward" democracy. My view is that we just need to pragmatically fine tune inequality to have the correct democratic weights. I also don't think that "fair" systems will survive against systems based on strategic inequality because there's already effectively a cast system for those who get an equal reward whiled paying (suffering) a bigger price.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:05 PM
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You bring up a reasonable point, which is that in every modern military there are supporting roles and these supporting roles far exceed the MOSs that see actual combat. The question is how do you motivate people to do combat MOSs. You cannot have equal kudos for unequal risks. And the fact is that militaries can and do survive with less support (they just perform more poorly). If we're playing with ideas, there could be few ways to solve this: Giving more or less voting power based on more or l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:21 PM
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Women shouldn't be respected by default. Men shouldn't be respected by default. Equal rights don't exist. And rights are always circumstantial. Hence why the richest man in the world isn't allowed to run for President in the United States. So let me narrow it down for you: - Women and men should both be disrespected by default unless they have value. - Believing in equal rights is a delusion that is not grounded in reality, between sexes, nor within sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:55 PM
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"bigoted" is usually a stand in for being "disagreeable" with the status quo. And there's nothing wrong with hating certain things. So disagreeable and hateful men should pass on their genes. They represent the creme of the crop above and over mediocre sheep.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:05 PM
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Amongst other things, you obviously can't distinguish between past and future tense. Sounds like you don't know what a premise is. A premise is a statement of alleged fact that's supposed to support a conclusion. Your premise was factually debunked. And it obviously doesn't support your original attempt at a conclusion that there's any connection between drafts and a woman's right to vote. All democracies in the world have restrictions. Like it or not, America was a democracy with or without wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:02 PM
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We would still have a military. We just wouldn't have fat men and regular women. The next time you're passed out in a burning building why don't you request a scrawny female to pick you up?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:39 PM
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Nearly anything in some way can be construed to be a need of the military in a very abstract way. For example you can argue that a seamstress sewing socks is "contributing". They can still contribute, just like a secretary in a construction company still contributes, but doesn't get hazard pay. In this case hazard pay is the earned right to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:38 PM
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Men, in all-male governments, created the laws that excluded women from voting. These same governments then created conscription laws, forcing men to fight. Now, some men argue: “Because only men are drafted, only men should vote.” Your historical precedent is factually incorrect. Women had the right to vote in 1920. Since 1920 there have been two drafts (WWII/Vietnam). Women were both eligible to vote and part of government during these drafts. The claim that “men were allowed to vote because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:55 AM
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You're living in the Long Peace. This is the most anomalous time in history. If and when there is a peer nation fight - there will be a draft overnight. It's myopic to not understand this looming threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:27 AM
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No. Absolutely not. In most cases men want the opposite. It's actually a turn-off. It's not masculine to date the "queen", "CEO bitch" or "singer". No I don't want to be a groupie, even if you're hot. I want you to submit to me and you to compete with my groupies. I prefer power over access. Women are the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:19 AM
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Men have 20x the level of testosterone that women do. Case closed. Women don't have anything except antidotal personal responses to counter this. Are human women the mammalian exception in the entire animal kingdom? The post should be retitled "the average 20 year old woman has lower libido than than the average 60 year old man" to drive the point home.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:52 AM
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The majority of threads are made by such men. The majority of posts (responses) are made by blue pill men. If you think about this from a maximally cowardice perspective, this makes sense: a) Bluepill men have no original thoughts, hence why they're non-contributors (just consumers). b) Bluepill men are here to react to content but not to generate content. c) Bluepill men don't want to be first at saying anything that will remotely affect their perceived "ally status" with women here, so they le…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:06 PM
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Congratulation you homed in one detail and avoided the question entirely. 144 people as of now upvoted this ridiculous thread derailing comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:28 AM
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Most men don't have an issue with standards per say (which are subjective and unfalsifiable). What men do have an issue with are the tangential issues around a standard, which unlike the standard itself, are falsifiable or can reasonably be called "delusional". As an example I recently spoke to a woman. She said that she'll only marry a man if he makes "$500,000" a year. That's fine, it's her "standard". However her friend also told her with a straight face "you shouldn't lower your standard". O…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:19 AM
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This sub is basically a place for blue pill men (and adjacent) to virtue signal for blue pill women. You'll notice that despite the name of the sub, there's little to no actual debates between red pill women and blue pill women. Find me a recent thread or post where this actually happens. Red pill men are a minority here. Aside from the large contingent of blue men/women, there's a sizable minority of discontent men, which blue pill men see as prey for playing some cowardly status game with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:08 AM
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Men in relationships still consume porn or tangentially eye fuck women while scrolling TikTok, Instagram, etc. I don't think porn has any impact either way, as men were more likely to be married in the days of rampant legal prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:02 AM
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If they do it publicly and at the expense of other men, probably not. If they do it when they are single to other single women, probably not. You should trust red pill men or Handmaiden men more, even if you despise their intentions. I also mean "trust" in things that have nothing to do with dating. For example - finding a mechanic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 03:31 AM
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Yes, they're called "sneaky fuckers". See my explanation here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 07:39 PM
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I'm suggesting that your opinion is designed to acquire maximum blue hairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:20 AM
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I'm implying that you're virtue signaling for the blue haired variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:22 AM
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And I'm sure "sugar daddy" along with screaming "daddy" or "papi" in bed also implies literal incest as well. How insightful. Did you get your "yass king" DM from some blue haired monster yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:04 AM
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Pedos refers to someone specifically attracted to women whom are prepubescent. Nice try. Being attracted to young women doesn't imply attraction to prepubescent children. An 18 year old is neither underage nor prepubescent. The amount of reframing here is rich. But I guess that's all bitter old unfuckable rotting barren corpses have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:47 PM
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There are some caveats to this. 1) First let's start with "wife goggles". The term exists - it's a thing. It was not a term created by women for women. Some man, somewhere, invented it. Why does it exist? Likely because there's some truth to it. This term represents a possible antidote to expiration date doomerism in some circumstances. "wife goggles" does come with some big caveats: A "wife goggle" is for a man whom married a woman young. It's not for woman who started old and became older. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:49 PM
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It seems the main credential to be a "red piller" is that women respond to X instead of Y. Blue Pill represents Y. Additionally both pills (red and blue), usually are concomitant with the idea that achieving "X" or "Y" is a result of skill deficit or surplus. The skills are different between red/blue but the common thread is that the required skills are acquirable rather than immutable and therefore you have agency to actually win. Point being, with the above framework, I think it is possible to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:19 PM
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The amount of cognitive dissonance here is astounding. Yes they are. They and only they, are the drug dealers manufacturing, advertising and selling the smut. Nobody but them are choosing to be digital fentanyl predators. You're analogy is the equivalent of accusing Wallmart of selling drugs because gang members buy plastic baggies from them. Or of accusing a gun manufacturer of the crimes committed by Aileen Wuornos and calling her a victim. Zero tolerance for female psychopathy. All OF models …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:48 AM
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This teaching space is already occupied by FDS. But most importantly women wouldn't pay for such a service because paying for such service is an admission that you're agentic and responsible for outcomes. Give credit to PUA redpill guys that at least they own the entirety of the outcome and don't outsource blame anywhere. Women: absolutely not. There will never be a woman who admits "I got disney princed 10 times and it's my fault, therefore I want to develop the aptitude to not fall for this ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:26 AM
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Your framing of the downsides includes a) marrying and b) living in the west. Just don't do a) regardless and preferably don't do b) either. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:18 AM
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Sometimes it's just fun to throw a verbal grenade at someone and see what happens. Guys do it to each other all the time. It's basically lack of love if your guy friends don't do it to each other. When you do it to a woman however it produces unpredictable results since their instinct to mistakenly to think you're going to use your overwhelming physical force to kill them. To put it another way it's like yelling at a little puppy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:15 AM
1

Really? You mean they're all addictive predatory businesses like OF?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:39 AM
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And the Casinos aren't exploiting patrons either. And the Sacklers didn't do anything wrong. And facebook isn't causing social anxiety amongst teen girls. You're a misandrist, pushing an apologist agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:29 AM
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Do you think it's right for a drug dealer to sell drugs to desperate people? Let's clear up your confusion here. The women in this example are not the victims. Nice try. They are psychopaths. They are the drug peddlers, not the drug consumers. The victims are the men who they systematically take advantage of. Nobody put a gun to a woman's head to have sex in front of a camera. They could flip burgers at Mcdonalds. They could use their brain. They could become a nurse. But they instead choose to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 07:18 PM
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Any woman in porn (traditional or OF) isn't mentally sound. Unless they're doing it to save their dying father from cancer (read a story about that).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 05:11 AM
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Because in absence of norms the default state of nature are large harems where the majority of men don't reproduce. From a genetic perspective, women can spread their genes under either a harem system or enforced monogamy. Therefore the outcome is inconsequential for women but consequential for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:08 AM
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Not everything should use a deduction. Some things should be inferred by inductive experience. And in many circumstances a reasonable inductive claim to make is that the sociological dynamic at play is a degenerate status game that you should not participate in. When a person participates in something that has a perverse incentive, this causes neuroticism. Not heeding to the rules of a degenerate status game is a tradeoff that some men simply make. It's not an indication of lack of intelligence …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:05 AM
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You aren't lucky and it's already affecting society. Men are working less, which makes society less productive and innovative. We have not stress tested what happens when a peer nation requires us to mobilize a generation of young men that are either too apathetic or don't see any reason to sacrifice for. Single men, on average, become self-destructive: guns, alcohol, drugs. This stresses the healthcare system for everyone (see opioid crisis). Single men with "nothing to lose" overwhelmingly vot…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:54 AM
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The content no longer exists genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:23 PM
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You're not going to tell me that those women are "flukes". Any OF model would do some stunt like that if they could. They are very representative of the kind of women that do OF. And they are clear examples of how more extreme content is created outside of classic porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:08 PM
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You're trying to pivot this into victim rapist mytholgy. Completely false. These women go to OF for purely mercenary financial reasons. The content they do is usually more degrading and more extreme because they are targeting more niche audiences without barriers of any kind. Look up the most insane disgusting, degrading form of porn and it will all be OF by director-creators, e.g. Lily Phillips and Bonnies Blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:58 PM
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No, unsolved: It doubly so ended when pornhub purged something like half of their content that they couldn't verify age/ownership of.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:51 PM
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It's different people whom all have that overtly pornified big studio look. Most classic pornstars are actually very average to ugly without makeup: https://thechive.com/humanity/interesting-random/adult-film-stars-with-and-without-makeup-30-photos/?utm_postid=4124766&utm_editor=4124766_elizabeth
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:50 PM
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I don't pay for OF content. And I don't pay for traditional content. I do watch porn, usually the short free clips that then try to lure you into OF subscriptions. The free clips are usually on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:22 AM
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The issue is that pay sites do cookie cutter movie sets. There used to be a plethora of "amateur" girl next door type porn. The "amateur" type stuff with insanely hot girls is what has gone to OF. Of course there's still places like "wicked studios" or "naughty america" that do "big budget" porn - but it has an extremely commercial pornified look. It doesn't have that "hot girl in her dorm room feel".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:13 AM
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This is actually less outlandish than you think. The golden age of "free porn" actually ended a while ago. Most girls with any talent (or looks) no longer go straight to agencies. So the quality of free porn has gone down as girl gate keeps their own content. It doubly so ended when pornhub purged something like half of their content that they couldn't verify age/ownership of. So if a woman is in porn today, it's usually because she cannot make it in only fans. Similarly women only do free porn …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:00 AM
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This is complete bullshit. You are not going to tell me that a weak ass church that can't even practice sex-segregated seating has an untapped pool of virgin brides.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 09:30 PM
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The dating market is manipulated. Under natural laws bastards out of wedlock starve to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:46 PM
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No they aren't. They are found in Mennonite groups and Ultra Orthodox Jewish groups. They aren't found in mainstream churches at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:27 PM
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Under Trump, Hegseth is supposedly reversing that trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:58 AM
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Your proposed idea is problematic: - Up until modern history (WWI, etc) - war wasn't very efficient at large scale decimation of men. - Up until present time, men have been needed for slavery and low class labor for elites. - Modern warfare is lowering casualties as a result of things like drone technology. If the current Ukraine war had been fought during the days of Iraq - far morn Ukrainian and Russian men would be dead. The male loneliness epidemic is caused by the following: 1) Nihilism amo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:57 AM
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Jeremy Meeks proves you wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:46 AM
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Performative cucked blue pill talking point to appeal to blue haired women. Incoherent statement. Of course they are, which is why an asymmetrical backdoor hack to their own psychology should give them leverage. Have you ever been in a boardroom discussing a multi million dollar targeted at one specific sex? You don't bring in the opposite sex of the target market to craft the campaign. The amount of ridiculousness in this statement from a supposed "red pill" is a joke. Why do I even bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:36 AM
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That's a very unpersuasive argument. "I could be a billionaire but I just feel like washing dishes"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:29 AM
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Other women don't seem to understand this concept and consider it a "grifting scam". In any case it's clear you don't have an agency where you're doing this at scale. And you also (by your own admission) are cherry picking your clients. You can't be "that good" if you're cherry picking your clients and never bothered to scale this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:27 AM
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Pretty straight forward one. Most women just don't want to admit that other women find their personality, boring, flat, generic and uninspiring in every way. The truth hurts women when the truth comes from other women in a very obvious way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:38 PM
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You should re-read everything we've discussed, because I don't you've shown any reading comprehension whatsoever. I'm much higher IQ than you'll ever be and I don't mean that in a disrespectful way. You can accept that or not, it really doesn't matter to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 09:07 AM
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They are certainly needed for back and fourth instant messaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 09:05 AM
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I don't need your service, but in any case it should sell itself if you are successful. Texting or profiles aren't about the quality of the writing per se. It's about hitting certain chords.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 09:04 AM
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That's not all I'm saying. There's a big pre-pended part you are jumping over. Women claim to have better personalities and claim men fail at online dating due to their bad personalities. When you combine what you said with what I said, you'll see the context of challenging women to put their money where their mouth is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 09:02 AM
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Why aren't you rich from ghost writing and swimming in pussy then? Because I'm rich from other things. And I am swimming in pussy (at least when I want to).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:59 AM
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It's certainly a component of texting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:57 AM
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My mindset is probably due to my unusually high IQ and extremely low propensity for empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:56 AM
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Irrelevant because men aren't claiming to be superior at interpersonal skills or to posses something besides a body that men actually care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:55 AM
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By mindset, I thought you meant the mindset of humor. e.g. how do you develop humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:52 AM
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It's a degree of proof when there are zero agencies in the entire world and women simultaneously claim to be blessed with natural born soft skills for everything interpersonal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:41 AM
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The ability to be funny is usually an inherited genetic in combination with some evolutionary pressure to be charismatic. Women lack both factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:38 AM
2

Subtract sex from the equation and see how his staying power is with your personality. Your boyfriend isn't going to outright say "I'm only here for your looks".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:29 AM
1

Same reason why women aren't funny and can't be funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:20 AM
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Good example of what I'm talking about. And most importantly this woman probably performed worst than her friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:19 AM
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A name and a citation is the same thing in this context. And I'm too lazy to give names/citations. I would rather you do your own googling. Proof to the standard that you want it is not obtainable for any non-public company.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:16 AM
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If you're not willing to charge people for your service that means you're not confident in your interpersonal skills for successfully talking to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:11 AM
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This doesn't have anything to do with anything discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:09 AM
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There are numerous women whom tell men whom fail at dating apps that their personality is the culprit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:25 AM
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The argument is reasonable but the topic may be bizarre. This topic presents a unique insight into disproving a claim postulated by women around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:23 AM
1

Let's put this in context. It's a small business model that women claim to have exponentially better skills at. And yet there's not one single example of a woman running this business in the entire world of any relevant stature. In that context - it's a perfectly justifiable peculiarity to point out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:40 AM
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That's possibly true but irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:38 AM
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What's an actual place that you've seen the term used? I'm curious to see your example.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:36 AM
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It's not clear that all women realize this. And in any case I think it is clear up front that such services don't promise anything beyond the scheduling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:34 AM
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It's usually used in the context of youtubers or podcasters who show interest or hold a position on something to garner views. Have you seen it used in other places?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:30 AM
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It's not the only one, but it is one. And it's a unique one that can be objectively measured in a very competitive space. Women should at the very least not perform catastrophically worse than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:28 AM
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The result is just a scheduled date. And this is measurable. So I'm honestly still not understanding your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:25 AM
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No, I think people whom are interested in money and claim to have a large advantage in the relevant skillset are mysteriously absent from taking advantage of such a situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:24 AM
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I understand you were joking. My point is that this isn't evidence that you're better than average. Because you don't need to deal with angry customers when you fail and your livelihood doesn't depends on it. Let me put it another way, I cook for fun and I like what I cook but I wouldn't open a restaurant because I know that my perception of my objective skills are not actually above average. Therefore my anecdote isn't a good argument for saying that I'm a good cook. Similarly this is why I'm s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:21 AM
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You may want to clarify what you mean by a grifter. Most people consider a grifter to be someone who virtue signals something. I'm not sure how that applies in this context of a service where measurable results are sold.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:16 AM
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Women generally don't have any morality under capitalism that prevents them from not doing something or else only fans wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:13 AM
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Communication, even through texting, is an interpersonal skill. Just like writing an email is an interpersonal skill. And how their tone comes across is usually some barometer for their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:11 AM
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Interpersonal skills in texting are usually a barometer for some kind of emotional intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:03 AM
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They usually do. And you could say the same thing about any private company.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:02 AM
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How is it a "grifter" or "faking" if there are agreed upon results being delivered? I do understand why you would call a "PUA bootcamp" "grifting" and "fake" - since they're just selling advice. But the two things have no overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:01 AM
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I don't know why you specifically mentioned two professions that disprove your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:58 AM
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No likey.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:57 AM
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They claim to have superior interpersonal skills and a backdoor to their own psychology. So I think it's a reasonable claim that they should perform better when they tell men their problem on these sites is their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:55 AM
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My point is that it won't. But women claim to have superior interpersonal skills so they should be able to show results.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:53 AM
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Text is text, but profile is text plus things that are not text. And texting is different than text. Texting is communication with interpersonal skills. Which is why you have salesmen on websites who perform better or worse by texting and receive better or worse commissions. Texting is a barometer for personality. I'm sorry you took it the wrong way. I was just trying to help you. No need to get angry about it - the matter is cleared up now on what I think you meant to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:52 AM
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It's an inductive argument, so technically it's not logic. And I think you're not reading what's being written correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:46 AM
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You can look up some videos on youtube about such agencies. I don't remember exactly what I saw - but one key thing is they practice the principle of not "overloading" women. I don't have the exact script but it would be interesting to see one in the wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:45 AM
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Not really. Look up any statistics you want. High earning men and women don't have equal overlap in those professions. Differences flood into areas I mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:43 AM
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More ad hominem attacks.. "you're just bitter" "grow up" How about prove me wrong. Ghost write for a random man and see if you do better. You know.. like something that anyone can judge the results of..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:40 AM
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If I'm following you correctly did you just say grifters are in fact good examples to follow (better at appearing human)?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:37 AM
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Your second sentence says "hence why guys struggle with their dating profiles." So your explanation in your first sentence refers to what you said in your second sentence. So you actually, literally, did not just explain yourself. You referred to your profiles - not chats. I say this politely (don't take it the wrong way) but you may want to re-write your statement as the intent of it is right now effectively conveying what you may be trying to say. You will confuse others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:34 AM
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Let's assume dating apps are terrible. This actually doesn't change anything. Because the claim by women is that they: A) Are better at interpersonal skills. B) Understand their own sex better than men. The failure rate will be bad in both cases, but it should be significantly better for women. E.g. 10 "wins" out of 100 instead of 1 "win" out of 100.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:29 AM
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You fail to understand the exact business model I'm suggesting. Payment is based on objective results (scheduled dates, etc). There is no grifting "PUA" advice. You either get scheduled dates or you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:27 AM
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I honestly don't see how this argument makes sense. Maybe I'm failing to understand something.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:25 AM
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The claim here is that women have infinitely superior interpersonal skills and access to the backdoor of female psychology. That's an advantage men could only dream of. So you may say my argument is "weaker", which is fine with inductive arguments - but it's battling an even weaker argument. Capitalism isn't a perfect arbiter of truth but it's usually a pretty good proxy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:24 AM
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Women: "Let me write an ad hominem attack whenever logic gives me a headache! tee hee!!".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:20 AM
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This doesn't explain post facto conversation failure rates that have passed the profile sniff test.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:16 AM
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Because this is what is called a thought experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:15 AM
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The fact that there isn't a single female ghost writing agency out there and many male ghost writing agencies says a lot. Women always tout their social skills but apparently don't want to capitalize on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:13 AM
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Suggesting? I put that exact word in the title. And you are again intentionally gaslighting a very straightforward measurement. Can women talk to women better than men? Yes or No? The point isn't about whether such agencies are good or bad. The point is that women lack the personality that they claim to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:08 AM
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So because women aren’t out here ghostwriting flirty messages for random men, that means they all have bad personalities? That’s like saying chefs are bad people if they can’t make your microwave dinner taste good. No. They're bad because if they're given the same money, with the same requirements - they'll fail in an objectively measurable way. And if red pill dating agencies are your gold standard, all you’re proving is that there’s money in telling men what they want to hear, not what works. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:05 AM
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It's not about whether it will get them further or not. The point is most women will fail at the exact same place as most men fail (profile and chatting). And the businesses are lucrative, that's why many already exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:01 AM
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There are two tests: Test 1: Response at all y/n Test 2: Chatting If someone has passed test 1, then the photos are sufficient. A woman will not respond to a man who fails at photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:59 AM
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If that's the entirety of your argument then it falls short. Because this doesn't taken into account chats that happen post facto profile review. Women will fall short there, hence why there are no ghost chatting services run by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:56 AM
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The business model is usually to use a honed script that's written by men. I will repeat that there are no agencies founded by women and that says a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:47 AM
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Pics would only matter at the profile level. But most conversations go dead after this fact. So ghost writing during chat wouldn't be affected by different pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:45 AM
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Because women have better things to do than con people into thinking the best profile can push past all flaws of dating apps? Great comeback. Independent big boss babes have better things to do than make money off their superior interpersonal skills that they incessantly blab on about 24/7. Wonder why none of these said women actually want to put their money where their mouth is. Oh, I guess they want to do OF instead (something that doesn't rely on personality at all).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:43 AM
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You're just making ad hominem attacks and gaslighting because you don't have a rebuttal to women hypothetically finding your personality flat, boring, generic in a context where you actually have to use it to win women over.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:41 AM
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That would depend on whether you're successful or not. It's easy to give free advice. But most men won't pay unless seeing noticeably better results. What you've done is charity work with no consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:33 AM
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Men who complain that women hate them just because they are women, do have bad personalities. That's not the context I'm talking about. I'm not talking about men who are hated. I'm talking about men who fail to date women on apps and are told "it's their personality". But if you give women these same exact profiles with carte blanch - they fail equally as much if not more, while at the same time trying all the tactics they say said men are failing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:31 AM
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Can you re-write your statement in a comprehensible way? I'm actually not sure what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:28 AM
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The type of woman you're speaking about who's ostensibly "traditional" and has no problems being picked is usually not actually traditional or actually submissive by any standard historical precedent. She's usually a compromise with surface traditionalism that some man with lower standards accepts. So this argument is false setup for saying: A) "women meet the traditional standard" and B) "men don't meet the traditional standard" and therefore "the problem is men not being traditional enough to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:58 PM
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If you don't care about clicking links on the internet then you're only here for one reason. And that one, single, reason, is to virtue signal to the opposite sex and harvest DMs. You want to hit them in the back door by wagging your finger at the boogey man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:00 AM
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I asked with any advances in technology They didn't bother to look at the references, so you expect me to respect that? You know that 99% of them deliberately ignored that qualifier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:30 AM
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Metaphor. No woman made any reference to the qualifier in the title. They didn't do this because they are anti-technology and too fucking lazy to click links. You're here to virtue signal to women. By telling them that they're good at being lazy you think you'll carry kudos with you. Pathetic!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:49 AM
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Are you a man or a woman? If you are a man, let's be friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 01:36 AM
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Ok you weren't lying. And I missed your comment somewhere in the midst of being relentlessly attacked by other people whom are in fact terrible non-contributors. My thoughts are the following: 1) What you say is a true limitation/concern. 2) I don't know if these companies have a choice. Because censorship of any kind degrades the model as a whole. So companies need to choose between generally more stupid models or more censored. 3) The first mover threat is always there. e.g. "if not us then Ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:50 AM
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Where is your comment? Please provide the link and I'll see if you're lying through your teeth or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:26 AM
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Show me a shred of evidence of one single poster who actually had the decency to lift their lazy index finger to left click a link.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:21 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:20 PM

I evaluate the fuckability of every woman I see. This sounds like a lot of mental bandwidth, but most don't make the first cut. So it's less work than you would expect. Almost all women over 30 are cut. So that's well over 50%. This leaves under 30's and standout talent above 30. Anyone who's fat, dresses frumpy, looks manish - cut. As a point of reference when I'm driving in my car I oggle 100% of women. If no one is in the car with me then I tally them by calling them names within the car. For…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:17 PM
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I'm not posting about the consequences of when a nuclear bomb explodes. I'm asking when the nuclear bomb will explode.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:52 PM
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Let's cut the crap. Did you click the links? Yes/No. No? Go figure. How can you discuss something that you didn't even read miss bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:02 PM
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He's trying to virtue signal for sex with blue haired women. "hey ladies, I'm not one of the guys who wants to handmaiden tale you -> come fuck me".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:25 PM
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I'm not here to play this social media dance. I'll leave that to some Gen-Z retard. When I post a link - it's a requirement to click it to get my respect. No link click means you're doing a bad faith argument. No point in arguing with someone who's too lazy to even exercise their index finger on their mouse. If their hands are too fat to lift their index finger, then they don't belong on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:08 PM
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Any intelligent company trys to shirk bills in legal ways. Having debt is a fact of most corporations. The question is did you acquire debt (capital) cheaply or stupidly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:05 PM
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It is good faith discussion. It's bad faith to not even click a link in a post. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:02 PM
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Either needs to be qualified by referencing advances or lack of advances. So it's not a legitimate response. It's a lazy way of interacting on reddit that only someone ridiculous would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:01 PM
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Also because from my conversation on here most women are afraid or confused about clicking the hyper links. Most women read the title and didn't click the hyper links. Only a retard does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:55 PM
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It didn't lose value. For it to lose value it needs to be a publicly traded company with an objective way to measure value lost or gained. Since it was and is, a privately held company, "value" is basically an opinion. Your perception of what is actually valuable is probably wrong because you have bad intuition on fundamental investing. This is why people like Warren Buffet and Elon Musk are able to win and you aren't. They can extract value from things that others can't. You belong in the bleac…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:54 PM
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All men will gratify themselves with AI. Just like all men watch films with special effects without know what is and isn't real. AI will infuse with all content. The future of porn is sex meets video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:43 PM
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Women need to learn how to click links in posts. It's not that god damn hard. If they can't do that, then they don't belong on the internet. Do you agree or disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:41 PM

I don't care how women feel. Most of them are just going to use more anti-depressants anyways. That's their solution for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:34 PM
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No idea what nonsense you're talking about. Don't get clever with me cupcake.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:33 PM
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There are things called predictions. And predictions are more or less educated based on the IQ and ability to do research of the subject. In the case of women, their IQ and ability to do research are both low. But there may me a common denominator of inaccuracy amongst this group.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:28 PM
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There's one "trad" girl on here who fits the description above. I thought you were her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:18 PM
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Because the perception inside said communities is dominated by male group think that yields cognitive biases. Women don't care about this technology, so a the very least they'll give a different estimate to compare to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:17 PM

Women haven't thought about this because they're surrounded by other women. I'm the only force in the universe who penetrates their bubble. Most women here probably don't even know what a nuclear bomb is. Good riddance. They should be the ones thanking me. I bet most women in Ukraine were like "what's a missile" the first time Russia blew their apartment to smithereens.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:16 PM
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Actually doing borderline schizophenric stuff, like "marrying" them or thinking they can have kids with them. Everything else is basically porn, a vibrator or no different than paying for an escort/sugar-daddy/stripper.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:12 PM
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It shows that women suck at doing anything actually valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:10 PM
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The question is really stupid if you think about it. A standard is measured relative to the goal it's being applied to. For example a building will have a "standard" to not fall down. So the question is, what "goal" is a woman's "standard" be applied to? For most women their "goal" is to let their genetic legacy die and have fun along the way. This is different from the standard to have children, raise children, instill values. It's a standard for an inwardly focused goal of entertainment as a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:33 AM
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It's always articles like this that don't match up with reality. Dominate is code word for big boss girl playing office politic in mediocre corporations that doesn't need to grow. Let's not forget the last time women were told to get off their ass and produce real results. So much for baddies going hardcore mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:18 AM
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Interactive porn is already done with humans. AI girlfriends are just a synthetic version of Only Fans. You are blind if you don't think Only Fans corpos don't dream of replacing dumb OF thots with synthetic versions to keep their cut. So with this framing your argument might as well be "men whom use Only Fans should be judged". But then again most men whom use only fans are married balding losers who don't want to fuck their fat ugly wife. Just like all men today use porn in and out of relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:08 AM
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I asked women precisely because most tech communities are male dominated. So these communities suffer from group in-think, which results in inaccurate predictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:51 AM
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Thanks for actually answering the question. All other women are not able to answer the question because they hate technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:24 AM
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I bet you still haven't clicked the link because you know you'll be defeated the second it happens. You're lucky I didn't trick you into clicking the link. By the way I saw this free Dior makeup the other day. You may wanna check it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:10 AM
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Suzy isn't taking Paul the Welder's job. She doing her office thing and telling Paulie to go take a hike. So Paulie says, "I'm not gonna risk my neck for a beer and microwave dinner that I eat alone in front of the TV".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:02 AM
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I provided the link. So that implied "go fish" cupcake. And what do you mean calling someone a "list". You want a list of why you're a liar liar pants on fire?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:53 AM
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I bet you still haven't tried it. That still makes you a big time liar who's full of it. But thank you for your edit. Your edit was an attempt at not being mean to me (I don't like awful people).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:40 AM

No you can't. I won't let you. I'll tell everyone on here that you're a fraud. You are currently the biggest liar in this thread and everyone knows it. I trapped you because I could tell by how you wrote that you were going to give an opinion on something you've never tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:15 AM
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Yo yo, little dog. You best recognize!! I Mean it! Me, yeah I'm world traveler. You.. I bet you never even got off the block!! I bet your momma calling you for spaghetti dinner! Hey tell your momma save me a plate too! I'm a hungry grown ass man. Tell yo momma I want some dem extra meatballs!! It's like that son! I probably am your daddy anyways! By the way, F dem northside fools. Always be foolin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:10 AM
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If you are a Christian then there's no such thing as "within my world". You'r obligated to impose your values on everyone. It's a universalist religion - unlike Judaism. You know I'm right. I'm always right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:58 AM
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Not sure what you on about. Aint on violence if a woman says "hit me baby one more time".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:55 AM
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You better recognize who's top pooch here boy. You betta! I hear a lot of barking but you haven't dropped a body count yet! Me on the other hand. I can afford Apple headsets like they are nothing. Just remember. I'm the 20 - you're the 80. It's like that! Better run up or shutup!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:53 AM
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Most women are into con non-con. Whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:47 AM
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For the same reason you opened the thread. Only a horrible person opens a thread, reads a post and then deliberately doesn't actually think about the question - and also makes a non-contributing post. I think if your choice is between trying it and being hands down the worst person in this thread - then you'll try it. The choice is yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:45 AM
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You are answering the question in the proper way. But most women are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:42 AM
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Not the question. The question is how do you view the pace of change. You know that you're ignoring the question in a very superficial way. I attack you for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:42 AM
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I'm not asking you to care. I'm asking you to predict the weather. I'm not asking you to care if it rains or snows. I'm asking you because men who are steeped in technology may have a different and less accurate time line. But an outsider (someone who hates technology like yourself) may have a more accurate timeline.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:41 AM
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Blue_Ronin - don't give this virtue signaler attention. He just came here to wag his virtue signaling dick in front of women - it's his thing. All of his responses to you are calibrated to make him look maximally fuckable to blue haired women with low IQs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:38 AM
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Tate didn't invent the red pill. Who are you talking about. Red pill men are up-front about "meh dick". It's blue pill men who pile drive through the back door when the chick isn't looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:36 AM
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I set a trap for you and you fell for it! I knew you didn't try it. OAI = Open AI
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:34 AM
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I can guarantee you his sole reason for being here is to harvest DMs from blue haired freaks that he thinks he can pile drive through the back door over vegan caffee lattes. His dick has a god damn agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:33 AM
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Let's focus on the virtual and not the embodied. I want you to try Sesame and then report back. If you've already tried Sesame then why don't you see it as different from OAI?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:30 AM
1

Manufacturing single moms and not texting the next morning ain't violence honey.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:29 AM
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Your religion is most likely Christianity. That means you're not off the hook.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:27 AM
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You ignored the question. It was a technology question. You ignored it because you don't read enough technology blogs to offer any concrete timelines. You should look at how u/ResponsibilityAny217 answered and edit your post to be more in line with hers. You failed. She triumphed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:26 AM
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Redpill men don't sex traffic. Redpill men manufacture single moms and then let suckers (blue pill men) pickup the slack.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:24 AM
2

And I'm sure you think a childless woman over 30 is "trad". How cute. Where dem babies?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:23 AM

Why don't you go pay for my kids as drop some kick some dumbass single mom to the curb. A sucker is born every minute. Never met so many suckers in my life wearing blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:22 AM

I'm certainly not going to hold that view for a guy who doesn't do it in-context. This post isn't that place. Imagine that you walk into a car dealership. Then some bozo off the street walks in and says "only fucking misogynistic assholes by fucking mustangs". Now imagine that not only did he do this at a car dealership (strange enough) but he did it specifically at a car dealership with the highest % of female sales associates. Don't be fooled by this dude's act. He comes here to wag his innoce…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:20 AM
1

Not the same. I'm asking you a technology question. And I'm asking it because the majority of women here don't follow technology news specifically. When was the last time you went to a technology subreddit/blog or listened to a conference. You know I'm right. I always right about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:15 AM
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I'm asking when the technology will be effective in terms of hardware. Not asking the standard sex-robot threat question here. There is a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:54 AM

No the biggest rapist, because such men sneak into feminist organizations and then grape them from behind. It always happens. Usually with the men who virtue signal the most. What he was doing was virtue signaling. Plain and simple. His blue pill radar went off and he said "wow an opportunity to wave my harmless dick in front of feminists once more". This is how the blue pill mind works. It gets close to women by insinuating they're the safer guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:52 AM

Standard blue-pill virtue signaling response: "hey women come fuck me.. <-- look here I'm not an asshole" Blue pill men are the biggest rapists of all time. Disgusting rapists - the lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:36 AM
1

You have the power to put your head in the sand. Great motivated reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:00 PM
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Obvious graph to show obviously correct. You think it's coincidental that just as women got "fuck you" money, men responded by saying "fuck this"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 10:41 PM
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That's all men. Blue pillars are just virtue signalers trying to pound your back door. Most women are raped and assaulted by alleged blue pill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 07:14 AM
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Because it's fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 07:11 AM
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The fact there's still incels in 2025 at a time when sex is completely monetized and you could have sex everyday for less than a phonebill proves this. This is not true anywhere in the world. I don't know where you get your prices from. A sexbot is just a low cost stripper, escort, sugar baby. You should ask yourself why women already don't pay for any of these things. It's not in their psychology to "pay for it". This is the exclusive domain of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 05:01 AM
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We need your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 12:22 AM
1

How do you feel about the Russian quote: Why Do We Need a World if Russia Is Not In It?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 10:44 PM
1

Are you for or against nuclear war?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 05:07 AM
2

High debt for bullshit degrees. Lack of office work that will be automated by AI. Perhaps a short OF career before AI auto generates AI GFs as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:59 AM
1

Then link to it. Is it that hard? Or is this another imaginary thing? Where did it go. I am always right about these things. I've never been proven wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:48 AM

Three men responded to you in this thread. So I have no idea what your wild imagination is referring to. But I'll make it simpler for you. Link to any thunderdome death match between women. You won't find one. You know I'm right. As I always am.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:35 AM

Link to me a post where you or any other woman has brutally ripped into another woman. I know it's just going to look like a tea party.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:15 AM

You're full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:37 PM
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I don't give a fuck about the opinion of someone who has failed to date men at all. It's not practically relevant to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:43 PM
1

Another wall of text that you expect me to read. HIV is a "you-know-who" problem. Read an actual book on the subject. Of course you use the modern definition of Monogamy. You ignore the fact that Monogamy or Polygamy strictly applied to marital relations. e.g. whether you like it or not it didn't change based on extra-marital affairs by men. But I'm sure you also ignore the fact that Adultery strictly meant a married woman fornicating with someone else than her husband. And I'm sure you also thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:33 PM
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The "non-issue" was referring to STDs. Not whether women liked or didn't like the system they lived under. My comment about "harmony" was referring to a system being stable. It may shock you but the universe doesn't have issues and isn't stable or unstable based on whether women agree to sexual terms of their lot or not. In any case ancient Greek mothers did usually send their boys to go fuck whores before getting married. That produced golden age men like Alexander The Punter. I didn't respond …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:44 AM
0

Nearly all issues you conflate with showstoppers, either were never an impactful issue, or have been inadvertently solved. Syphilis? A non-issue today. Nobody ends up like Capone. HIV from penetrative vaginal sex? Show me an HIV vaginal case and I'll sell you a bridge. Doubly a non-issue with Prep.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:23 AM
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How cute. Women think stamping their throwing a tantrum when Daddy didn't read their mind is a way for interacting with the real world. There are the kind of women yelling "used". Meanwhile winner women are winning. You don't see women with a hubby, kids and texts the next morning claiming to be used. As always, sour grapes explains a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 08:30 PM
1

Neither do women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 08:13 PM
-1

Your history and ratios are wrong. Prostitutes are the minority. Wives are the majority. 1 prostitute per 100 wives. Since men die earlier, there's never a man without a wife. STIs are blown out of proportion. It's basically only the gay stuff that really matters - and that's not our problem. In any case if you want to hear an alternative approach you can consider North Korea. Women serve in the pleasure squad there and then marry later on. Their past is sealed by stated edict. This is presumabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:58 PM
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My comment was in regards to "how do you have mostly chaste women and promiscuity at the same time". It's a solved problem per my example. Take 100 women, make one of them a prostitute. The other 99 women are chaste wives. 100 men will not use that prostitute in conjunction with wives. Thanks to men dying earlier (for a number of reasons), that 1 guy isn't left out of a wife. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:53 PM
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In almost 100% of cases "men will pretend" is code word for "she filled in the blank". Almost zero cases of "hey, I want to marry you tomorrow - let's bang tonight".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:50 PM
1

The onus is hardly on the other party, when that "other reason" is never stated. Even more so when the reason is deliberately hidden. How many women are dating out of their league with Lazy 8's? They know any point of friction means he's out the door and onto the next swipe. So they play this game of "if I don't say anything, I can initiate a contract without him ever knowing".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:47 PM
2

Why don't you try that fuzzy kind of logic in Las Vegas at a blackjack table.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:44 PM
1

It is what it is. Why dress it up? It's just an elaborate hunting ritual.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:40 PM
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Whatever. I smell good. I like the way go about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:38 PM
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No it’s not. Says every single women failed the test. The women who passed the test become something else. The women who fail "I was used."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:37 PM
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Not that gross. Pretty much what every guy did in history. I'm personally a "raw is the law" kind of guy myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:31 AM
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Those men are mostly following the play of events outlined above. They're sampling women and dumping them when women fail to perform. No man except a swinger is looking for a straight up pump and dump. What men are doing is no different than a woman dumping a guy after a first date before sex. Yet there's no platform of guys saying there was some tacit agreement for sex and that declining it makes you a reneger.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:20 AM
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Total standard gas lighting as I just said in my post. You say nothing. He says nothing. And some contract manifested out of thin air where you expect marriage, a white picket fence, 2.5 kids and dog. Try this tactic with any other exchange in your life and you'll quickly be reminded that no one expects to read your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:13 AM
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Most of the time "intentional casual sex" is in fact exactly what I wrote in my post. Very few men are swingers. Most men are girlfriend sampling until something worth keeping works some magic down under.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:10 AM
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I'm not saying saying she used me when it does happen. I'm not calling her a predator for failing to put out to my desire. And most importantly I don't have an expectation - what I have is a standard. This isn't an apples to apples comparison. Women are defacto calling men predatory users when nothing was ever said. There isn't some default morality in absence of explicit terms. And that's the exact argument try to gaslight with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:08 AM
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Relationshy-y shit is called courting. Most weirdos don't ask for a bang at "hello" unless they are swingers. And it's typically courting is a stage where a woman can decline further advances at any point, no foul. Similarly sex, isn't a shotgun wedding. Unless it was. But that's never the case with any woman shouting "used". It's really simple. You only get to call foul if you explicitly stated an expectation. No mind reading. No tea cards. No "I had a feeling". No "I felt the universe was lini…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:35 AM
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Let's examine your code words "basic decency". Can we confirm this means you expect "X", whatever "X" is, without ever stating "X" and in fact while deliberately not stating "X" so as not to scare away said partner. Is that a reasonable description?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:27 AM
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They don't need to think anything. They just need to understand that nobody with a rational head would call what happened "being used".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:06 AM
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The target has thoughts. Opinions are things that other people know to exist outside of your head. Nobody is a mind reader of your thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:05 AM
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Unilaterally and usually deliberately tacitly. This is the case for every single "lazy 8" ending up on "Are we dating the same guy" hate group.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:02 AM
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So do you agree that there are some men who leave after getting sex but weren't only after sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:00 AM
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You act like this in an unsolved dilemma in history. The problem is solved by the exact hyperbolic suggestion you mentioned. Throughout history prostitutes and chaste women have coexisted, usually in harmony. A simple look at history will show that this is the most common state of affairs in any society, it's not an imaginary dystopian anomaly. To answer your question I would choose a virgin and then use escorts before and after as needed. Second question, I guess since your the moderator you ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:58 AM
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What is your rubric for saying men just wanted sex as opposed to the woman failed to deliver?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:47 AM
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You're not saying it's wrong when a woman vocally calls someone a predator who used them? When at any millisecond leading up to the act she could have said "hey let's slow down, these are my terms"? She's free and this was consensual - yet she has a magical stick where she gets to claim victim. It's not like there aren't women in the world who say "no sex before marriage". Does it occur to you that it's incredibly manipulative to deliberately not say something because they know most men won't ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:45 AM
1

Being hopeful isn't a license to call the other team a predator who is one step above raping you. If I give my stockbroker more money to play with I am also hopeful. But I don't get to call him a scammer when the market goes bust. Especially when I made zero inquiries about any details of the risks. I deserve what I get for walking in blindfolded and thinking I can guilt trip him into paying me back just because I had some delusions in my head that I never expressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:41 AM
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This type of thinking doesn't pass the sniff test in any other sector of life. In any place where there's an unstated expectation, people naturally and vocally declare terms before going forward. They don't wee-fully agree to everything and then call the opposing party a scammer when some random result didn't line up with their imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:34 AM
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And how exactly is "implying" done when nothing is said by either party? You're not going to convince me that every woman who cries "used" is a good little Catholic girl who did a compatibility test that's given out by their church.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:30 AM
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That's really not true, outside of cases where people are inebriated. It takes effort, time and finances to bang. Targets are chosen based on an expected return.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:22 AM
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The collateral fallout is all on her end. On your end you just replace that expired part.
/r/TheRedPill10/05/25 11:32 PM
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And it's reasonable to assume that in most men's cases this is a result of leverage. Dating a single mother can work if you apply a similar logic to what was employed in the movie Money Ball. You accept losing in many traditional parameters with the expectation (demand) of her over compensating performance in other areas.
/r/TheRedPill10/05/25 10:51 PM
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Correct.
/r/TheRedPill10/05/25 10:40 PM
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There are multiple stupid reasons to date such a woman. A version of this woman without a kid is always superior to the one with. But there is one, and only one, good reason to date such a woman. You're taking all of her tradeoffs to enjoy absolute leverage. Some men enjoy leverage above everything else.
/r/TheRedPill10/05/25 09:39 PM
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The ratio of disagreement to agreement on a subreddit designed for maximizing disagreement is astoundingly low amongst women. It's basically once a week that I see a woman targeting another woman for the kill and "attacking" her. Even then this attack looks like they're having tea time. Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 04:46 AM
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Little cockblockers take priority over my orgasms. A wallowed out vagina feels like fucking an inflated plastic bag. I think evolution should let children of incompetent mate choices starve to death. Single moms have fucked up bodies as a result of shitting out bastards. Single moms rarely exercise since they have no free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 12:27 AM
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The womansphere is the most radicalizing. Imagine going online you state your problem. Then the following happens by women: a) You're told your problem doesn't exist. b) You're told your need isn't a need. c) You're told that if you disagree with a) or b) you're a terrorist. d) You're then censored and banned. All of the above is done by women to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 12:06 AM
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It does two things: It diverts potential money away from foolish scam artist red-pill/pua courses that promise you can get sex through self improvement technique, method, practice, bullshit. Some men whom see escorts do this because no amount of self-improvement will work. So this presents itself as evidence against the black or blue pill. It's a scary thought to see the world view debunked that "effort always results in reward".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:11 PM
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Restricting access to prostitution between consenting men and women is applying oppression to men. The repeal of prostitution in the United States was largely orchestrated by women. This both steals consenting sex from men and forces said men into prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:05 PM
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The only reason that American society has remained liberal is because of two pillars that are gradually eroding: 1) Society became liberalized as a result of an generationally outsized, mostly liberal baby boomer cohort. This group which got to have their cake and eat it too is now dying and being replaced by a much more desperate male cohort. 2) Globalism ensured the destruction of nationalism and American male labor. Biden didn't repeal any of Trumps tariffs. The trend towards nationalism is b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:48 PM
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You're suggesting an alternative proposal, not my proposal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:33 AM
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The ratio is drastic. The men who are gullible suckers tend to be even less qualified than the female teachers. Only a male on the bottom of the social pyramid goes into this kind of teaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:47 PM
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It's the former, not the ladder. So yes, "really".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:45 PM
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Because there's no way to not influence the child. You're either influencing feminine traits or masculine traits. So you're already paying for influence. Your tax dollars should be going to the right influence without increasing the budget. Pay women less (since they will work for free like gullible suckers) and give their earnings to the men since men won't buy that baloney.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:22 AM
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The vast majority of everyone finds gender segregation disgusting. This includes all of modern Christianity. 99% of Christians don't practice gender segregation in their churches. The pope is a disgrace for this reason alone. I mentioning all of this to say that if the most hardcore conservatives in society balk at gender segregation in the house of their god, then it's an extreme up hill battle to accomplish this in secular society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:14 AM
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I don't see how a) was ever elaborated on or explained. It looks like a terrible analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 12:35 AM
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Unfair payscale doesn't demand new taxes, it just shuffles around old.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 12:30 AM
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Red tape, public will, etc. Same reason we don't let bastards starve whom are birthed from dumb dumbs that can't keep their legs closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:50 PM

It's not taboo, it's pragmatic shaming. Women want to decrease the supply side of the sexual marketplace. So from the perspective of a woman it's pragmatically smart to shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:42 PM
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Those are men who can't hack it anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:38 PM
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I respect representation. Most women don't respect representation of men for men. They only respect representation of women for women. As soon as you say men should have "representation" they say it should all be about "merit" and a woman could do the job just as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:36 PM
1

You sure about that? I think you're trying to be naughty and imply something homosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:34 PM
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No, I'm arguing that all men aim for such jobs. No man intentionally choose a shitty low wage job. Women do intentionally choose shitty low wage jobs. Do you see the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:32 PM
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Women are already the majority of low paid teachers. So it is already done, mission accomplished. My point is we could even pay them less and get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:31 PM
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I didn't put this in the post, but I was implying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:30 PM
1

Not if the control group performs poorly despite having fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:29 PM
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Most women don't look these things up because they are content with their mediocre lot in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:28 PM
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I don't really know how to tell you what I want to say in a nice way. So I'll leave it at this: if someone claims to be making less than what a normal salary is, then they're likely fucking someone on the side. It always comes down to this. Follow the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:27 PM
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The first statement is incoherent. If someone wants to rephrase it, that's fine. The second doesn't demonstrate how one assumption is linked to the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:25 PM
1

Most women here disagree with both of your points, not just the second point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:22 PM
1

Women tried passport sistering in Europe and specifically fled back home because they weren't accustomed to going dutch.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:21 PM
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Because they're easier and more gullible to manipulate into wage slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:19 PM
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Limited budget, women are willing to work for less. Within this paradigm a possible option that is unfair to female teachers but good for little boys is pay women unfairly. It's a tradeoff that's hard to stomach. But when push comes to shove, women will cave.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:19 PM
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No student is going to respect a low testosterone male teacher who goes there because they can't hack it anywhere else. You're basically putting a big fat sign on your head that says "I'm the most pathetic man you've ever seen".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:17 PM
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Those schools are typically privately funded and my argument is primarily about publicly funded schools. I wouldn't apply the budget of Harvard teachers to your local school.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:14 PM
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This has historically been associated with guaranteed monogamy or raping women of the conquered peoples. So bad analogy. Women knowingly do shitty jobs that offer no rewards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:12 PM
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Men do high wage shitty jobs. Women do low wage shitty jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:11 PM
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Limited resources. Men aren't stupid enough to buy the propaganda of being a wage slave under the guise of "a calling". Men also don't go home to suck the dick of their husband who brings home the actual bacon, while little miss teacher uses her money to go shopping.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:11 PM
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Bad and non-realistic way to arrive at the same goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:09 PM
1

Not true. Some jobs explicitly pay one sex more than the other. Porn is an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:09 PM
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Why should the taxpayer pay for things that parents should be doing? Parents don't teach. Point easily defeated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:07 PM
1

I take it you feel proven right very often.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:54 AM
1

I'll try to respond in kind: lol no more feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:45 AM
1

Computer says no. ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:44 AM
1

Because you used the word "exist".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:43 AM
1

Apparently not, if no babies from said feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:33 AM
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My position is unchanged, so not new. Pay women less, and men more. Redistribute the budget to men at the cost of women making less.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:24 AM
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Limited resources. Faster to manipulate women into taking lower pay. Unfair for women, but fair for kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:23 AM
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Feminism doesn't have a reason to exist. That's why it will die out with childless women. Feminists don't have enough reason to even breed their own ideology into continuation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:22 AM
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There currently is no wage cap. So you're wrong. But I am (obviously) advocating for one with this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:12 AM
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Correct the sexes should be segregated. This is what they do in many religious and military schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:07 AM
1

You're not gonna sit here with me and play the: "I don't believe in god" "but everyone still be Christian to me pretty please" card
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:37 AM
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Your boyfriend is likely hiding his paycheck from you. Those numbers are frankly not believable. Because men who would go into that field would just become doctors.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:28 AM
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It's about women being weaklings who can be manipulated more easily into doing things not in their best interest. All I need to do is bribe a little girl with a candy bar to cry in front of her teacher and then that teacher will go back from the picket line and submit to slavery to support that little girl. Men. Don't. Fall. For. That. Shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:26 AM
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I don't care if that's the case. But even if it was, I doubt that will happen. Women are treated worse everywhere else in the world. Women resent that they need to go "dutch" on dates in Europe and flee back home.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:23 AM
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They aren't performing the same job. Teaching boys uses different methods that women aren't equipped to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:20 AM
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Human decency from birth is explicitly not a Christian value. No that's a Christian value, masquerading around in disguise. You don't get the benefit of religion if you aren't religious. This is closet Christianity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:19 AM
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These numbers numbers account for business owners who aren't classified differently. I didn't read your second paragraph, but now I did. Nursing is also a shitty job. So I think it's true that women do work shitty jobs, even if the pay differs among them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:16 AM
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The majority of westerners aren't Christians, they are atheists who hate religion. So they have zero obligation to offer Christian values and you have zero expectation to be the recipient of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:12 AM
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These "average" numbers are suspicious. When you account for all the contextual scenarios that easily push up plumbers and push down teachers, the contrast is far greater.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:06 AM
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There is already competitive pay discrimination between different subject/departments/grades within the same institution. So my view is that if it's OK to discriminate between other categories then why not genders?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:01 AM
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Role modeling happens regardless and does affect subject outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:59 AM
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Fellow humans eat each other in some parts of the world as a local custom. So perhaps you shouldn't project local values universally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:58 AM
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I care and that's why I'm advocating women to work for less. The most efficient route to this outcome is to just pay women less because they aren't confrontational about being taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:55 AM
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There's no teaching involved on this subject. Children won't know the pay discrepancies of their teachers. For that matter female teachers probably wouldn't know either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:54 AM
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It's not a man's fault that Sally wanted to stay in school forever. Some women choose to be god damn losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:53 AM
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You were mean to me personally. I was not mean to you personally. If I say that a donkey is a stupid creature, that's not calling you stupid personally. You're being mean to me on a personal level. Why are you being so mean to me personally, when I have been nothing but personally nice to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:50 AM
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Race/culture is likely a predictor too. Obviously people can't learn from someone who doesn't speak their language. If my goal is to support improving X then I just support whatever solution gets there. I'm agnostic about the morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:43 AM
1

Paper mill diplomas. I knew a kid who became a teacher. He was one of the most moronic kids that I had ever met. This kid copied my homework and I put in random answers because I was lazy. This same kid then got angry at me. What a fuckup!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:41 AM
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You don't need to be mean to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:39 AM
1

I was responding to your second sentence. For the first one, it's probable, that Linda McMahon could dismantle the teacher union with executive orders from Trump. In a might makes right scenario I do think there are options.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:37 AM
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I didn't call a female teacher stupid. I suggest that anyone who wants to be a teacher under these conditions is stupid - they just so happen to be droves of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:33 AM
0

A completely normal position in civil places that reject personal ad hominem attacks. That's an argument fallacy and against the rules here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:33 AM
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I care about my son learning to view women as equals and not “gullible simpletons”. If that means he is taught by an adequate and equally paid female teacher, then so be it. That's not the trade off. You're associating what I'm saying with what a teacher will say. The teacher will not say what I say. Your son won't know who's paid more or less unless some loud mouth female teacher opens her big mouth. But in any case such a teacher probably won't know herself because she's doesn't do comparative…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:30 AM
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The majority makeup is still women. There's no precedent of men willingly working shitty jobs except in actual slavery. But this was not really an endorsement because slaves frequently got the better of their masters when they could pull it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:25 AM
1

Everything is limited resources. Do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:23 AM
1

You would knowingly perpetuate it as a tradeoff. Let me put it another way: Let's say you have a male son. Do you care more about your son or the female teacher that is teaching your son? My view is that your obligation is to your son in this tradeoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:22 AM
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Correct, women work shitty jobs knowing they can depend on someone else. Men can't do this. The outcome is young boys get the schtick. I'm not sure what your principle is?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:20 AM
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Humans get respect by being born if you are meak Christian. Are you assuming that everyone is a meak Christian? And as a side note, there's a reason some variants of Christianity consider people good for hell until they are baptized.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:19 AM
1

Trump could write a mandate tomorrow and effectively change the law. Or some states could change laws at a local level. This is a credible possibility that you are dismissing quit quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:17 AM
0

This is because the current system selects for underachievers. Only a loser male would work such a low paying job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:15 AM
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Men can't take the hit because they aren't gullible simpletons who buy into propaganda to work for slave wages. Men also don't consider their salary as "fun money" while actually depending on an external husband who brings home the actual bacon.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:14 AM
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Correct. We live in the real world. Guess what? It also cost more money to pay a latin language teacher because there are fewer of them. And we also pay math and science teachers more than liberal arts teachers. Nobody complains about any other category of resource limited trade that results in unequal pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:12 AM
-1

I'm not teaching anyone. But you are actively advocating that boys deserve an unequal amount of teachers in their own gender. That's unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:09 AM
0

The sales pitch doesn't work, because unlike women, men can see it's stupid to work for free. Only women are stupid enough to sign up for slave wages.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:08 AM
0

And some boys have full time adequate fathers but still face worse educational outcomes than their female peers whom have 100% of their teachers match their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:07 AM
-1

For the student boys, yes. Welcome to the real world, the term is called "trade offs". Have you ever seen Hummer that outruns a Ferarri? Take a guess why.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:04 AM
-13

The budget per a female teacher can be lowered to almost to slave wages because women like this shitty job. You cannot argue the same precedent with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:03 AM
1

This affects both kids with and without fathers, so point defeated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:58 AM
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Companies want the lowest budget possible but they don't care who's getting screwed as long as the numbers add up to an acceptable total.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:58 AM
-1

Teaching isn't a calling, that's why there is a teacher's union that insisted on teachers sitting on their ass and doing nothing throughout covid. It's a place for mediocre losers to go who can't hack it in the real world. Men know this and that's why they don't bother with such an underperforming backwater of society. By the numbers, the only people attracted to such dysfunctional places are guess who?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:56 AM
1

The top priority is children, not politics amongst adults. If you're suggesting that politics amongst adults is more important, then children, whom have no part in the politics are paying the price.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:54 AM
1

If you're implying that there's no scenario that exists where people are paid unequally you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:52 AM
0

It's not my fault or young men's fault that the definition of an education role model is someone matching my own sex organ. Respect isn't taught. Women don't get respect by being born. Humans get respect by proving that they aren't garbage. The default is garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:51 AM
1

The boys fathers aren't relevant. This affects both boys with and without fathers. Men have better outcomes and develop better role models learning from men. Women have an upper hand in education because of this that is grossly unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:47 AM
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It doesn't matter if it's illegal because laws can be changed. In any case there are already pay differences between other categories of teachers. So this would just be a new way to offer unequal compensation. Teachers are indirectly role models that you are influenced by. So it may not be their purpose but it does affect childhood development.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:44 AM
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a) I don't see how one assumption implies needing to hold the others. b) Limited resources. c) If the total budget is the same but women get less, then this solves it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:42 AM
-1

Yes and there's limited resources. I'm proposing a solution that works within those limited resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:39 AM
-3

My "anything" isn't relevant to this debate. That constitutes and ad hominem attack. Stop making personal uncivil ad hominem attacks and stick to the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:38 AM
-1

It is gendered because men model behavior off men, full stop. That is what a role model is. That is also why single mothers produce better outcomes with daughters than sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:35 AM
-13

Debate means staying on topic, and not creating your own topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:34 AM
-1

It's telling that improving young boy's educational outcomes is met with: "lol why don't we hit them!" And a round of applause from women... Do you think I'm allowed to write the same post here about grown adults physically assaulting young girls as a way to improve their educational outcomes? Your comment is incredibly telling about the disdain felt towards young boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:32 AM
-30

God forbid we give young boys an an equal outcome and make some grown adult unhappy. Limited resources. Children > Adults No false frameworks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:28 AM
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Because we live in reality. In reality there are finite resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:23 AM

The drug addict probably threw that retarded baby in back of a dumpster and can't remember. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 04:32 AM
1

Force the other woman to answer the question and we will see. Do my bidding for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 03:40 AM

I'm older. You owe me respect and an apology for your juvenile insubordination.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 03:39 AM

I didn't ask you did I? Take a guess why I didn't ask you. It must have something to do with the fact that you didn't make a claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 03:22 AM
0

This seems more like a discussion than a debate. What are we supposed to debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 03:15 AM
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No work required.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 03:12 AM
0

She shouldn't be in a relationship with him if that wasn't the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 12:34 AM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 12:33 AM

Says the *former methamphetamine addict who caused her own child to have down syndrome. Stellar parenting! Yeah everyone should trust what you say. No wonder your former partner in crime committed suicide. He probably wanted to get the fuck away from you. God bless his soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 12:29 AM
-1

Does it occur to you that in most cultures younger people show respect for older people?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 12:15 AM

You first.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:12 PM

Judging by your posting history, you're a sex worker. So I'm not sure your opinion really matters to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:00 PM
-1

Because they promise to be honest. So you can always ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:57 PM

Let's stay on topic, let's stay on you. Have you had 1+ relationships - yes? Then by definition you failed at exclusivity/commitment. A relationship ending means a discontinuation of exclusivity/commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:56 PM
-1

If you need him to say it, then you don't trust him. Essentially you're using public shaming. And without public shaming he would dump you in a New York Minute.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:54 PM
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He doesn't pretend you're not together. You can even marry him. He just doesn't openly ever say "I won't fuck other women."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:49 PM
-2

If you can ask the person at any time, then it would be very easy to find out. It's as easy as texting "are you fucking someone else" - "no". - Done.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:48 PM
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The man in the above scenario doesn't cheat and you can confirm this at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:47 PM
-1

This will result in a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:46 PM
-1

No one ever said they won't be faithful. You filled that in with your subconscious. All the man did is say he doesn't agree to only fuck her. He didn't say he will or he has or he wants to fuck other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:43 PM

If you've had 1+ relationships then you've failed at exclusivity/commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:42 PM
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Both men are staying faithful. The difference is in what they are saying. Women will lose interest in men who openly tell them they no longer need to compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:41 PM
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The only women that walk away are ones with trust issues who are dating dubious men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:39 PM
-1

Then what you wrote makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:39 PM
-1

Why would you assume that when you can ask him at any time and he'll respond honestly? That's a really bad assumption to make when it's easy to ask. It implies that you don't trust your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:37 PM
-2

Probably the oldest person in this subreddit. I resent that you're implying I'm a toddler.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:36 PM

It's not a game, she'll lose interest instantly and gradually the second a man says "you don't need to work for me".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:35 PM
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In both cases the men are staying committed. The only difference is one is verbally committing and the other isn't. She'll eventually lose sexual arousal for any man that verbally commits.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:34 PM
-3

This indicates a lack of trust in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:32 PM
-1

Yes, it's a manipulation tactic. Women respond to manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:31 PM
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Why would you assume that when you can ask at any given time and he'll respond honestly?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:30 PM
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I doubt you need commitment, or at least I doubt most women do. Most women do have sex before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:29 PM
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If she asked you if you are cheating and you responded honestly, then how would you get away with that? You didn't read the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:27 PM
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This doesn't contradict monogamy. It just requires frequent updates to verify he's still monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:24 PM
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I didn't say commitment. I said fidelity. Get married, have a kid, move in together. Just don't promise to not fuck other women. Instead ask her to ask you if you have fucked other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:20 PM
1

Go re-read everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 07:41 PM
1

How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:05 AM
1

No yours is. Test your fat self against a playboy model. How could you of misunderstood that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:04 AM
1

So convenient that every fatass doesn't want to test an obvious hypothesis. How so fucking convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 07:45 PM
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You misunderstand what marriage is. It's not for your benefit as an individual man to maximize your personal position in life. Marriage is a contract that all men agree to enforce on the most popular men. This forces the most popular men to be married off and not create harems of serial dating. There's no collective point to marriage that doesn't enforce permanence. Without permanence there isn't enforced monogamy. You should think about marriage as equivalent to joining a union. You need to abi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 06:12 AM
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None of them are into fat women. This can be proven by offering them a thin playboy model and seeing if they'll switch. Men are into easy women to generate mediocre nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:41 AM
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People who are falsely accused live with character assassination for the rest of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 07:27 PM
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No, decades in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 01:14 AM
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What's wrong with dating significantly younger, if it's an equal level of dating experience? Pretty mean to deny two consenting adults to find happiness. They're at the same stage and maturity in dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 07:44 AM

There are two ways around this that ironically all women frown on. Date Younger: You'll have more life experience in other areas. You'll also be naturally more confident. You won't worry about what to do or not to do. A lot of women are actually worried about appearing immature. Date Foreign: As a foreigner you'll stand out no matter what. You won't speak the language or know the customs. So essentially your weirdness won't be detectable. If women were nice they would tell inexperienced older me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:58 AM
1

Hypothesis that RPW have higher testosterone. Height a possible indicator of more testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:23 AM
2

Who accidentally fabricates a story out of thin air? Have you ever drove home from work and then accidentally come up with the idea that you were raped while driving alone in your car on the freeway? This is bullshit. Give them the death penalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 08:41 PM
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If the guy didn't do it, then it's proven. She fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 08:17 PM
1

I want to see if taller women are more redpill due to having more testosterone. I've asked the question to the other women in the thread as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 08:02 PM
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We just need to give women the reverse sentence when they lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:51 PM
2

They are not contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:50 PM
1

How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:49 PM
1

How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:49 PM
1

How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:48 PM
2

By the way here's a lovely story I just came across.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:20 AM
1

That was in part due to his mother being a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:36 AM
2

You cannot express physical attraction verbally anymore than you can express any other physical interaction verbally. You can claim physical attraction, but you cannot express it. That's a purely intellectual claim that doesn't translate to an animalistic expression. Just like I can claim I'm about to fall asleep, but unless I yawn and actually close my eyes - I'm not expressing being tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:28 AM
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Physical interest means expressing something physical and the level of physicality expressed is the level of interest. When people express the thing they want, they don't express something else. When was the last time that you expressed interest for ice cream by asking to eat an apple?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:09 AM
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So over time modern bullshit. I'm correct. Modern bullshit is incorrect. The nice thing about a text, is that it's unchanging record. It will always be on record in the Bible that Adultery specifically means a married woman. Of course the Bible can be manipulated in any weird interpretation. Just like the Old Testament is completely gutted by Talmudic retards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:03 AM
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There's no way for a woman to express physical interest without physical interest. People do not express salivating over a steak by eating Broccoli. Try it with your dog, you'll see that it doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:54 AM
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I give her the benefit of the doubt and then wait for her to "fuck up". Usually they'll do something stupid and easily avoidable. For example let's say I wait 3 dates and 3 weeks. She's in "the clear". But then we're watching a movie. And in one of the scenes some girl hooks up with a guy at a party. The funniest thing will happen.. She'll just blurt out "lol I did that once at a frat party, I sucked a guys dick like.. I don't know.. a half hour after I got there!!". It's surprising how incogniz…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 03:30 AM
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Desire is involuntary and predictable. If a woman shows an involuntary desire pattern and deviates, then it doesn't mean zero/sum. But it does definitely mean at a hormonal level that she values you less. Some men are OK with being desired less and cutting a deal. But don't try acting like there isn't less desire. No man needs to justify wanting the same level of desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 03:05 AM
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-If she had sex with a guy on the first date historically, what is the allowed deviation, if any, for the next guy? Does she have to have sex on date one or can she wait until the second date? How much wiggle room is what I’m asking. What if the second guy took her for coffee but the first guy took her for dinner? If she has her period, should she reschedule, let the guy know ahead of time, or does she get to wait until date number 2? The deviation is zero for her expressing involuntary desire i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 02:25 AM
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Your framing is wrong. Men want equal hormonal desire and sex is the external proof of this. Men are not looking pragmatically for the highest return of nutting over the shortest amount of time. Men are looking for green desire flags that don't require faith based arguments. And sex is the one and only flag that indicates hormonal desire. Men do not want an intellectual interest from you. That's not real desire. It's a spreadsheet calculation made without emotion based on situational circumstanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 12:39 AM
1

They’re not into you for you, they’re into the material stuff you can bring. Status can exist without wealth. Examples include famous serial killers, broke bands or bullshit but prominent government posts. Women do show attraction to these despite no material offerings.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 12:22 AM
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Matthew 5:27-28 27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Standard expected modern response. The default position at the time was that all women were married. But of course modern interpreters deliberately places ancient texts within present day society. "looking at a woman" is obviously referencing a married woman. You might as well assume that any refer…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:40 PM
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A slut is also someone who dresses immodestly regardless of whether sex follows or not. So a virgin OF model is a slut, even if she just sleeps with her one partner. Ditto for strippers or girls that walk around half naked.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:16 AM
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Never heard this claim. It's obvious all men can be mislead by sluts. But sluts aren't liberal by default. Plenty of small town trad sluts marry the first idiot that screws them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:21 AM
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There's no disconnect. Men are simple visual animals. We'll involuntarily give more visual attention to women that show more. But we don't value these women for wives or mothers. So unfortunate thing is that all dates start with getting a man's attention and you're at a disadvantage against sluts for pure visual attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:11 AM
1

Find me one sentence in the Bible that identifies adultery as a man having sex with a woman that's not married.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:44 AM
1

The fact is that your friends never attempted to have sex with your dad. Also I don't get the impression that your dad ever called you ugly for being not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:42 AM
1

In the US on paid Tinder it may be 0-2 a month. On VK (Russian) it's 2+ a day if I'm putting in effort into the algorithm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:07 AM
1

If sex is off the table then the relationship ends that night. It's not a question of "holding out". You want to pull that power move - then I'll game over you. Obviously men wouldn't interact with women at all if they didn't offer sex. It would be an interesting experiment. Men would mostly withdraw and build new enclaves. Cities would crumble. Women would probably tear each other apart. Men may watch the chaos from afar for entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:05 AM
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Let's first accept that modern monogamy isn't historical monogamy. Women, feminists and even hardcore modern Christians all have a modern (wrong take) on what monogamy is. A man who has a wife that sees escorts or unmarried women on the side isn't being ENM. He's still monogamous. Because adultery has only ever meant "sex with a married woman". Yeah I get it, pitchforks incoming (from the usual modern "trad" women). Sorry to burst your bubble but you won't find anywhere in the bible anything tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:58 PM
1

What do the horizontal lines mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:42 AM
1

Assume any man talking to you outside of obligation or necessity wants to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:30 AM
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I didn't say unattractive, I said low self esteem. And it doesn't matter if your friends say he's attractive. They will obviously not say to your face that they find him hideous (if that was indeed the case). What matters is whether they will throw caution to the wind and try sleeping with your father. If you haven't sensed that they want to and are willing to do this, then they obviously don't really feel he's attractive. I assume your mother is the first wife. Without trying to offend you, my …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:59 AM
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No, only women/women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:14 PM

Your perception is based on having only ever known the millennial and z era.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:09 PM
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That due to a processed shit diet that somewhat hard to avoid. RFK will get red of that junk with Big T.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:50 PM
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When they were younger the American diet wasn't processed shit. But they didn't work out either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:49 PM

My view is that someone like your father had low self esteem. Someone like your father would of replaced someone like your mother if they had the opportunity to. This is how I see the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:48 PM
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I don't know what "your day" is. But Millennials go up to early 40's. If you see a boomer in a gym at all, they're either there because their doctor yelled at them to get off their ass or because they're hardcore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:46 PM
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The floor has been raised by every metric. All of the following has increased: Weight lifting. Clean eating. Cardio. Showering routine. Testosterone injections. An average male boomer never went into a gym once in their life. They have a bar of soap and a 2-in-1 shampoo-cleanser. They didn't buy trendy fit clothing. They didn't watch reviews online about how to improve themselves in anyway. "self improvement" was some weird corner in brick and mortar bookstore that they never walked into. They o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:43 PM
2

The in-group I was referring to was women, not a subset of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:33 PM

I'll assume you're a woman. It's like when you go to a store and buy a Gucci bag. You bring it into work and everyone praises you for it. Having this bag makes you stand out. You then come into work the following week and everyone has the same bag. You no longer stand out with your cute Gucci bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:31 PM

Average women can't get a chance because men don't value women for anything else besides their youth and bodies. Your brother has low self esteem for dating a woman who doesn't match standards that he holds himself to. This thing about her being nice is likely just his way of trying to feel like he didn't lower his standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:27 PM
2

I would conjecture the world but I only have antidotal evidence to cite this community.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:17 PM
3

Lalo's response was unclear. If you would answer the questions I asked, it would help clarify. Thanks. The only arguments that happen between women at all are arguments proactively initiated by RPW women. In my observation these are usually against BP or PP women. There aren't that many RPW to begin with (as evidenced by this thread), so it's less common to RPW vs RPW at all. I never see BP or PP women attack each other or RPWs. BP and PP only do defense. RPWs always draw first blood.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:16 PM

Prefer is not the correct word.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:09 PM

For the reasons I explained in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:08 PM
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There's no point to working on yourself as a mass-market strategy when women date relativistically. All millennial and gen z men today are body builders by boomer standards. Women will always swipe right on the same % of men, even if the floor is absolutely raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:12 AM

They express whatever they think will make you have sex with them more. "you are fat and I'm disgusted by that, but let's go have sex" will be a turn off to you. You were approached more at 190 than 150 because you were easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:00 AM
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What Lalo said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:58 AM

My question was why do they try when the odds are low. And they're only together because the guy is a loser. You can't prove the love hypothesis unless you offer him a super model replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:52 AM

Never happens. Men dgaf about that. It happens that men lower standards and dumpster dive a woman who happens to have that stuff. There are also women that fly to Jamaica to sugar baby men over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:30 AM

Muscles have little to no value to women thanks to muscle inflation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:04 AM

I didn't know you were talking about people seeking out certain traits like cancer. I wasn't even on that page with you haha. This is what I was actually talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:42 AM

That doesn't explain much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:23 AM

Attracted, understandable. My question is more along the lines of, why spend you life playing a slot machine in a casino. Men have a few cheat codes for winning - women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:23 AM

Or they have the most testosterone and the lowest standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:21 AM

The post took one minute to write.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:21 AM

Or that's all they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:20 AM

We're not talking about something that happen's after the fact or that you learn about unknowingly. e.g. we're not talking about someone who develops cancer or whom later on you discover had it. In those cases you selected them for other traits and this is just part of the baggage. The question is would you reject someone because they don't have cancer. Or would you specifically seek out someone that does have cancer. The answer is obviously no to both. Nobody does that. It would be a fetish and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:19 AM
1

A thin woman can still deadbedroom a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:15 AM

Tattoos are an identifier for a sub-culture. A tattoo is an indication that you're a scumbag with no morals. This is a profitable characteristic to have in a corrupt society that values psychopathy as a virtue. Such men are actually more likely to spread their genes. I haven't heard about being attracted to amputees.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:14 AM
1

We must agree that the only way to test this is by getting in the middle of relationship and offering some skinny girl bait. If the man takes the bait, then he obviously though the fat woman was disgusting but accepted out of sign of low self-esteem. You can't call something love if it fails under the skinny-girl-bait test.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 12:16 AM
-1

This is frankly total propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 12:08 AM
-6

It's a question about why they would invest time attempting it. The presumption is that it will result in a high rejection rate. So why invest time in something that's presumably a bad strategy? I understand why men would, I don't understand why women would. It's also a questionable strategy for elderly men to attempt dating 18 year olds outside of sugar babying or some other freakish power imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 12:00 AM
0

Being attracted to a cancer patient because they have cancer would be abnormal. You intentionally misrepresented what I said. And it's obvious what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:52 PM
1

Thanks for volunteering this information.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:51 PM
1

You assume there's love present. She could just be the only warm body he can find. In other words, he's a loser. Fat women aren't any more a default "personality match" than skinny women are is my point. You don't automatically get "personality points" by being fat or skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:50 PM
3

Thanks for a different point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:48 PM
1

Like I said, this can be proven quite simply. Allow any man who dates a fat woman to trade that for a Victorias Secret model. This is the only way to prove that a man actually likes a fat women and isn't just being a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:45 PM
3

Most people aren't fat due to medications. I'm referring to people that are fat as a result of lifestyle choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:44 PM
1

This makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:42 PM
1

Do you think that you do higher volume messaging than an average woman? Do your messages usually start with a written message? How proactive are you compared to an average woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:41 PM
1

I don't care - I'm just curious. And no it's not a looks post - it's a lifestyle post. There's obviously an incompatible lifestyle between a man who macro counts and gym bros 5 days a week and some fat ass who can't even get off the couch to eat her Krispy Kremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:39 PM
0

Some women found scars attractive if it came from sparring. But this is arguably a sign of vigor, which is healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:32 PM
0

Fantasy. A skinny women isn't by default not a personality match.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:31 PM
-11

The picture link was in the original post and it was always written as "does exist". No idea what edit you're referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:05 PM
0

Yes. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:03 PM
4

Never will happen. Wonder why. Height is allowed. Weight is not. Wonder why. It's really a mystery of the universe. So confusing. The greatest minds in the world can't conceive of why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:01 PM

Don't tell me what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:54 PM
2

(1) is only valid if the men have other options. I've yet to see this. (2) See (1). (3) Women with curves are easier to draw. (3) Pregnant women aren't fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:53 PM
-1

Do the skinny men prefer to date you, or do they have options to date skinny women as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:47 PM
5

They love fat asses, not fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:45 PM
-8

Do THEY have other options? If no, how can you say this is their preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:45 PM
-16

I already told you why.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:39 PM
-18

Unless they have an alternative option they are a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:38 PM
-3

The other way around question is illegal on here thanks to the stupid moderation rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:37 PM
-1

It's not normal to be attracted to something that's unhealthy unless you're a sexual deviant. For example being attracted to a cancer patient would be abnormal. There's also a difference between "this is all I can get" and "I want that". How many of these men would still choose these women over a Victoria's Secret model?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:36 PM
-21

What's your point? Some men are losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:34 PM
-7

There's no evidence that men like fat women. Some men like fuller women. e.g. Kim Kardashian Even these women have their "fat" in highly specific places.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:32 PM
2

I mean the ones that just pet the fucked animals and feed them food. Maybe this a recue shelter? Like the ones on the TV where you see a dog with a missing leg and they ask for donations. Whoever deals with those animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:17 AM
-1

Many reasons: Most childless women are "childfree". The two are not the same thing. Most childless men are just childless. Childfree is an anti-natalist position that is invariably tied to extreme progressive liberalism. Childless women want to extend their progressive liberal culture through kidnapping and brainwashing other people's children. You'll notice that this is why childless women are always for Big Gov, work school agendas, etc. In order to preserve their dying culture they need to fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:28 PM
3

It could be that autism inhibits other traditionally "masculine perceived" traits. So autistic people typically aren't boisterous, the life of the party, gregarious. They're also sensitive to touch, sound, ect - not a great look in a club. They generally dress like shit. Ditto for controllable appearance in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:40 AM
1

Well, they are all dead - so lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:34 AM
-4

Any profession is a red flag for a trad. Why aren't you in the kitchen? But exploring the grey... Certain professions can be flags for bitchiness or masculine women. Any "man's man" job. Super bright red. No I don't find it cool that you drive a bulldozer. Want to measure dicks next? Finance. Usually you need to be predatory, selfish and sociopathic (great attributes for a man). No I don't care if you "love numbers". Yes you can be my accountant, no I don't want to fuck my accountant. Any "offic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:31 AM

Men who want to have children and who want a woman that explicitly evaluates them on income do in indeed want these things. Men who don't want children don't care about these things. Most men are who are blue pill and will settle for garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:06 AM
1

They do it because they want to be a war hero for some girl's wet panties. Needless to say said girl already hopped the border and has a buffet of jimmies in every orifice. If you look up the definition of a cuckhold, it's "a ukrainian man who didn't flee the country". Zelensky is lowering the age of draftees to 18 from 25. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:03 AM
1

At least some segment of men are choosing to do it on behalf of women they don't know who are getting fucked in the ass by foreigners. These men, whatever % they are, can be considered the most cucked men in the world today. Do you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:16 AM
1

There isn't any bonus convenience or other value in combining cooking and sex work. But for the heck of it let's price this out. An "OK" escort in SV will start around $300/hr. A decent meal prep service in SV will start around $12/meal. So Gold/Silver would need to be less than $312/visit to be competitive. Platinum - this is on par with a sugar baby. Last I checked a pretty liberal SB in SV starts around $5k/month. So platinum would need to beat that. Adjust the prices to local areas as needed…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:12 AM

If you want to play a trad-con SAHM, then I assume you will: Be a virgin. Be under 30. Preferably under 25. Wear only dresses, skirts and heels. Have no tattoos/piercings/purple-hair. Go to church. Be willing to have 3 children. Offering to have kids (usually 1) isn't an equitable trade. If you do all of the above, then yes by all means, demand a six figure income.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:00 AM
1

They have a choice to be draft dodgers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 12:40 AM
1

Ukrainian men are a laboratory experiment of displaying unconditional love. They fight for women in their country while they are off fucking foreign men. So they're dying for nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:51 PM
0

All of the above is standard in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:16 PM
0

A lot according to /deadbedroom
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:17 AM

I will start with an antidote. The director of the film Birthgap only released part 1. He has actually refused to release part 2, because it involved interviews with childless women to discuss this exact topic. The interviews were so distressing that he felt "bad actors" would exploit them. This is such a taboo topic that people have actually protested screening of the film. Let that sink in - people are protesting a liberal film maker because he made a film that showed some women "regretting be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:07 AM
0

Men do give unconditional love. There is no fairy tale of women saving men in distress. But the world is full of stories about a damsel in distress. It's seen as heroic for men to date someone with a disability and be the rock for that person. We're suppose to die on that horse for you. But then again men are also born to go to war. We're asked to kill ourselves for unconditional results. This is something that women are incapable of relating to. This is why that secret service agent who was sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 09:47 PM
1

I think what they're suggesting is that you have more leverage with an uglier more desperate person. A person who has less options cannot afford to be an asshole. Similarly an attractive person has more incentive to be an asshole. So the what's not being explicitly said is that you should vet for desperation. It would be a similar strategy to men whom explicitly vet for single moms or older women. This is what Ted Bundy did. He chose to date a single mother because he knew she would be extremely…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 09:39 PM
1

Money is relative to the area you're in. There are areas of the country (parts of California) where if you make over $100k you still considered officially low income. Even if you have an upper middle class income, people need to know about it. It's not like women receive a memo when your paycheck or bank account reaches X. In order for women to know about it you need to advertise it through buying shit. This is something that wealthy people can do but that upper middle class people can't. e.g. e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:14 AM
1

The red pill is usually morally agnostic and does not specifically endorse trad-con stuff. The most famous redpillers (RoushV) valued a decayed society that allowed men bypass traditional barriers to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:04 AM
5

If two men do an identical "creepy behavior" then identify the differences. It obviously has nothing to do with behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:59 AM
1

I doubt it's slightly lower. Though I do agree there's difficulty in proving causation. I don't think an average is a better way to approach this than a single date point for mostly anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 08:46 PM

The OP is made to debunk a strawman. A man can say "sex is a need". And it's an incredible strawman to say: This man is saying "he endorses sex slavery". How would you feel if you said "blood is a need". And then people replied "you want to forcibly extract it from other people". It's a completely unreasonable response. If you don't understand that then I really don't know how to explain it any other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 07:49 PM
1

There's enough evidence to support an average that suggests otherwise when comparing groups with and without sexual companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 07:44 PM
1

It's ironically probably the reason for why American healthcare is so bad. You'll notice in American society that we have the best emergency healthcare in the world, but probably the worst preventative care. So if you're going to get shot in any country - it should be America (and most likely will be). This is why we allow a person to balloon to 500lbs eating cheeseburgers and Coca Cola and then perform life-saving care in an emergency room visit. The view is that preventative care (telling them…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 06:40 AM
1

Blood is a need that 98% of Americans disavow obligation to donating despite 100% stating it's a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 06:23 AM
1

And if I don't breath in a couple seconds I die, therefore water isn't a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 06:18 AM
1

If we're going to use "survival" as the "for" then doesn't the example above meet that definition? If we take the above example at face value and assume men die 20 years earlier as a result of not having intimacy - isn't that no different from food or water aside from a timeline? Timeline does not seem like a reasonable differentiator when talking about survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 06:02 AM
1

They all die earlier and most die early. It's relative what you consider early.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 12:10 AM
1

I didn't say it was a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:54 PM
1

Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:53 PM
1

Yes universally. It's actually universal to the point that it's considered inhumane in American prisons to not give people exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:52 PM
1

We disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:50 PM
1

I can see why this post was written :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:49 PM
1

A need is an acknowledgement that without X you'll get Y. Now we can debate whether Y will or won't happen. For example we can say "without sex men have a 20 year shorter life span and on average develop 20% morbidities - men need sex in order to avoid this". It's no different than saying "without a 3" bolt that welded into a building, the building will collapse at wind speeds of 70mph - we need bolts welded into building in order to avoid this". A need is not a mandated for any specific level o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:47 PM
1

This is a presupposition that you're suggesting a majority of people agree with. I do not think a majority agree with this. And thinking like this is actually why humans die sooner. You're selecting an arbitrary set of "biological" actors just because they're fast-acting. If we use the definition of water, that's 3 days. This disqualifies food, which is two months. I can arbitrarily ramp up or down what is or isn't a need based on timeline. But they will all kill us, just along different timelin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:30 PM
1

That's patently false. Exercise and diet obviously affects when you die.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:13 PM
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I don't care what other men claim. I care what I claimed. And I didn't claim it was a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:10 PM
1

Humans require many things to live and not die. It's an arbitrary decision to focus on and only classify things as needs that kill at a faster over a slower rate. So this is a presupposition that I don't hold. It's not a requirement unless we pre-suppose there's a moral contract to do anything about it. Without a moral contract, it's just a building specification. It's like the law of gravity. We can avoid it at our own peril and it may come tumbling down. Some people are OK with that. We don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:03 PM
1

I compare stating sex is a need with stating blood is a need. I don't ever compare them being a need. People state many things are a need. And we can argue whether they are or aren't. But I've never heard someone say, "oh you think blood is a need? well you're not going to come to my house to take it from me at gunpoint". That would be an incredibly absurd hyperbolic reaction. And that's equivalent to what women are saying here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:50 PM
2

I never said it was a need. Re-read my post and quote exactly where I said this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:45 PM
1

I don't agree with your definition of a need, because everything kills us along X timeline. Eating ice cream and pizza kills us. Sitting on our ass and watching TV kills us. I have no respect for arbitrarily calling one thing a need and not another a need simply because they kill us along different timelines. That's defining needs preferentially based on timelines. Do you want to have everything that doesn't match the timeline for water (3 days) not be considered a need? I don't think the need h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:44 PM
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It's very possible that it could be nothing. Not even empathy is required. That's the case with most needs. Most needs are unmet. We live in a world with scarce resources. Look at healthcare - we routinely leave people to die. Or we tell them to pray to god to resolve unresolvable problems. A need is no different than an engineering spec that says "without a 3" bolt this bridge will collapse". Sometimes we accept the building collapsing despite being aware of the need. There are some diseases th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:35 PM
1

Thank you for actually responding to my post. You clearly understand the distinction I made. Do you have an insight into why the other 95% of people here don't understand this distinction? Why is everyone here debating whether it is or is not a need when that wasn't even the point of the post? The post was about exactly what you wrote: This is exactly why I have no quarrels with agreeing with these men that sex is a need, because I don't equate need with requirement. But also because I feel like…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:27 PM
1

I didn't say sex was a need. You ignored my actual argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:21 PM
1

What question do you believe I didn't answer? This one: If a need is stated (any need), does it always follow that stating a need is an endorsement of coercion to fulfill that need?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:20 PM
1

I never said sex was a need. Blood drives fail to meet the need and don't put guns to peoples heads to extract blood. You have failed to provide an example where a stated need of blood is forcefully taken from people. 98% of Americans knowingly say "fuck that" to blood drives. 98% of Americans knowingly say "I'd rather let those people die".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:18 PM
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I clearly want you to focus on the point of this argument instead of projecting your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:43 AM
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I didn't say it was a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:41 AM
1

The difference doesn't suggest to me that my original premise is wrong. It's possible to do nothing, little or whatever after stating a need. And in actuality blood drives have almost non-existent coercion. This is reflected in the national donation %. So a statement of a need doesn't imply any specific level of urgency. The level of urgency can be close to zero in practice, which is on the opposite end of the spectrum from sexual slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:40 AM
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I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:12 AM
1

Their nervous system cares even if they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:39 AM

Your husband's crew qualifies. Yes, but different tribes and different wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:37 AM
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What's your point? How does this relate to the actual stated argument. The argument was not about whether sex is or is not a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:36 AM
1

You aren't answering my question so I there's no point to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:56 AM
1

There is a national and global shortage of blood today. So I still do not understand. Is your solution for today to force or not force blood extraction? What is your solution for today? Today's status quo solution is to state the blood is a "need". But it's voluntary to give blood. Do you agree with this or disagree with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:10 AM

She didn't bother to respond, so that says a lot. So your husband's friends have killed people to protect their group? I have at times walked in circles that met this criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:51 AM
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Since you disagree with the statement, this means you do think that blood should be extracted at gun point. Or am I misunderstanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:48 AM
1

Shaming is an effective strategy in a society that enforces monogamy. It discourages the growth of polygyny. But in a polygynous society it only has the effect of discouraging women from joining polygynous harems. This why the shaming is mainly done by low status man rather than the men who own harems and whom are enjoying the benefits of said harem. It's effectively a retaliatory mechanism against other men rather than women. It does not result in more sex for lower status men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:46 AM
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Acceptable, yes. Not sure what you mean by perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:38 AM
1

Thank you for addressing my actual point. Blood is a stated need and saying so isn't an endorsement for mandatory extractions of blood from your arm. Please explain to me how these differ. Are you of the opinion that any stated "need" is in fact an endorsement of getting that need met by any means necessary?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:35 AM
1

It depends on your male appeal deficit. Men who are actually loved can pay zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:24 AM
1

If both are factually true then, they do have the same implication. But you did not answer my question. Do you refuse to answer my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:21 AM
1

20x less in accordance with 20x less testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:47 AM
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Boomers were the last generation where working out was abnormal. Xers normalized it but weren't efficient (pre-internet). An average male Millenial and Z would be a weird weight lifter in the boomer era. An average male Millenial and Z is doing what 1% of men did in boomer era.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:45 AM
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My counter argument is this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:43 AM
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A need can fail to be fulfilled without any far fetched theory. It happens every day. There's a national blood donation shortage. 2% of Americans donate blood. The other 98% don't. That's an example of an unfulfilled need that does not use coercion to make up the difference. We accept at a societal level that it's OK to let people die even though this is a "need". So these two things can be compartmentalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:20 AM
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To debunk the claim that it's equivalent to endorsing sexual slavery for those who do say it's a need. View the "need" as a variable. If a need is stated (any need), does it always follow that stating a need is an endorsement of coercion to fulfill that need? Does is follow that X mandates Y? Or is it possible to state a need without endorsement of coercion? My view is that it doesn't. What is your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:13 AM
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Do you agree that something can be life-saving and non-obligatory? I will clearly say yes. For example blood transfusions are life-saving care but non-obligatory. Do you agree or disagree with this statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:13 PM
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Because women don't like to be seen as uncompassionate and unempathetic even if they're allowed this choice. As an example people don't like being seen as stingy with homeless even if they have no obligation to donate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:53 PM
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obviously that doesn't mean we should lock people in cages and force them to cuddle. Do you think saying X implies Y? I don't. Stating that people need blood, does not imply: Let's extract blood from people at gun point. We accept having blood shortages. Only 2% of Americans donate blood. This is the only argument I'm making. I frankly don't care whether it's a need or not for the sake of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:50 PM
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I equated that both people state X is a need. Not everyone even agrees that X is a need for those examples. It doesn't matter whether X is or is not a need. The point is that even if you think X is a need, it never implies that X need mandates Y solution. Is stating that you need blood equivalent to stating it should be taken at gun point?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:46 PM
0

Their wives probably don't put out, or don't give head/anal. If they have kids and didn't get the husband stitch then it penetrative sex may genuinely feel like having sex with a plastic air inflated bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:34 PM
1

Because it's disingenuous to knowingly suggest a collective action problem as a solution. What men want is a place to share vulnerability and receive affection. Women naturally provide this to each other and men don't. If you do this, as a man, you'll invoke the collective action problem. Being vulnerable and affectionate with other men provokes an extreme social penalty. You'll be called a "bitch", a "pussy", etc. You'll be left socially worse off by attempting to get this need met my men if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:32 PM
1

Where's the contradiction? I didn't say it was a need. I said very specifically "it would be inconvenient to genuinely acknowledge it as one."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:22 PM
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I guess you don't realize the intent of this post. And I'm really not sure how to clarify in any other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:54 PM
1

I acknowledged your fraudulent claim. Acknowledging something fraudulent doesn't magically convert it to being real. If that were the case then UFOs would be real by default of people responding to debunk them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:53 PM
1

I'll let the record sit for anyone who cares: You have failed to find one single quote in my post where I stated or implied it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:50 PM
1

I never stated or implied it. For all you know I could actually hold the argument that sex isn't a need. You are intentionally compounding the derailing of this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:44 PM
1

Nope, I actually did not imply it. I was extremely clear, extremely specific. You took it on yourself to derail a whole entire thread to make this about your interest in another argument that had nothing to do with my argument. You projected a gag reflex onto an adjacent discussion and you have never once discussed that actual content of this post. I might as well have written a post about airplanes - that's how incredibly far off base you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:37 PM
1

I’ve actually never heard anyone equate men’s equation of sex as need to sexual slavery before, do people outside the internet actually to that? You can find quotes in this exact thread by other users that directly state this or imply this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:33 PM
1

I never stated it was a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:31 PM
0

I'm not going to acknowledge something that has nothing to do with this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:30 PM
0

I never stated that sex is a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:29 PM
3

My argument isn't about stating that it is or is not a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:29 PM
2

Let's not say sex is a need. That's irrelevant. Let's also not commit to finding a solution. That is irrelevant. Let's actually focus on the one single thing this post is about. Let's acknowledge that not all needs have mandatory coercive solutions. Let's acknowledge that society is perfectly happy not serving some needs. Donating blood is an example. Less only 2% of Americans voluntarily donate blood. The other 98% of Americans are not forced to donate blood despite it being called a "need".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:28 PM
2

Why are you discussing whether it is or is not a need? You do realize that's not the point of this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:24 PM
1

The issue is that I never stated that sex was a need in the post. The post has been entirely ignored by 90% of people here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:24 PM
1

You problem is that I never said sex is a need. You're responding to a projected argument that wasn't even stated in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:22 PM
1

The American health care system clearly disagrees. As does any rationed health care system. Blood and Plasma are needs, yet only 2% of Americans donate blood. So clearly, donating blood is a need that is not followed by a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:20 PM
0

When there's a scarcity of a resource any "need" can and will gravitate towards some unsavory solution for fulfillment. This can just as well happen with food where people will kill each other to avoid starvation. If we're committed to prioritizing intellectual honesty over humanitarian ramifications then I don't think we should censor language just because someone may use it as a justification to employ an unsavory method as a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:16 PM
1

I never stated that it was a need. The entire point of the post was missed by 90% of people here. The point is that saying X doesn't equal Y. If say that "blood is a need" that is not equivalent to stating I'm going to do a home break-in and forcefully withdraw blood from your arm with a needle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:04 PM
2

I never stated sex was a need. You missed the point of the entire post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:59 PM
1

I never stated sex was a need. You missed the point of the entire post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:58 PM

See my other reply to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:33 AM
1

I'm not going to respond to you until I can see that you understood the intent of what I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:33 AM
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There's no requirement to accept the premise or the analogies as true. And this is why the premise and examples are soundly analogous despite being true or not true. Any dissimilarity between these analogies is a level deeper than required for them to be sound. The analogies match in that there is a stated need regardless of whether there this stated need is an actual one. The match is precisely in the stated belief and not the actual efficacy. And if you want to clearly categorize some as life-…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:31 AM
5

You've missed the entire point of everything I wrote. And I don't know how to explain it any differently so that you'll understand. You're right now participating in a monologue, not a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:22 AM
2

You haven't read the OP well and you didn't follow this chain well. You don't know what argument is even being made in this thread. You are reacting to an adjacent argument that has nothing to do with this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:19 AM
1

You want me to repost the entire argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:18 AM
0

No I am not actually. You are, but I'm not. If blood and plasma are a need, where do you think that comes from? Have you ever been to a blood drive? If someone says they NEED blood, does that mean they are demanding access to your body (a woman's body) under an authoritarian regime to extract blood?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:17 AM
-4

The premise does not rely on an unproven assumption because the premise is neither proven nor unproven. So it could be proven or it could be unproven. I have made no claim stating that it's proven or unproven. The analogies are also not proven or unproven, but merely stated. Therefore they are all correctly analogous because they all match the intent of being stated without proof. What someone else reads into them is really on them. You're giving these people too much credit. They are exhibiting…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:13 AM
1

Needs have definitions. Without those definitions you can't even serve the need. So you are forced to define the definition or have people die.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:59 AM
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I don't think that implication holds up. There are hundreds of medical treatments that are called "needs" where we don't imply there's any obligation to do something about it. Giving blood or plasma is an example. There is no actual moral frowning on not doing this. And I do think you haven't looked around if you haven't heard the "Handmaiden's" trope every time there is an argument made for this being a need. If you're going to argue something is life-sustaining/saving that opens you up to defi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:53 AM
3

They die without it due very specifically to not receiving it within a certain timeline. Would you like to receive an ocean of water on the 8th day without water?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:41 AM
1

Not the point of my argument. Missed the point entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:35 AM
-8

I do like what women have to say. I don't like when what they say is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:34 AM
0

Specify the timeline. Do you agree that HIV treatment is not a need since it's not like water? People die without water in 3-7 days. People die without HIV treatment in 3,650 days. Let's agree that HIV treatment isn't a need since it's not like water.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:34 AM
1

My god. Someone finally gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:29 AM
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You are lying if your only reason for saying this is that it's an inconvenient truth. A lie is a lie. Do you understand that? You can have good reasons for lying. Or bad reasons for lying. If nazis come to my door and I say there's no jews in the basement it's still a lie. Do you understand that you need to choose between truth and convenience. And if you choose convenience that you are intellectually dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:28 AM
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Yeah, you actually do. The burden is entirely on you to backup your claim. And your claim was just very easily debunked. So for example if someone "needs" life saving medication but without that medication they can still live 10 years, then is that a need or not a need? After all they can live a whole 10 years. What about someone who eats crappy food their entire life but dies at age 50 due to cholesterol and type-2 diabetes? Is healthy food a need? They lived 50 years? So is water for 3-7 days …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:24 AM
-2

If you want to climb down this rabbit whole then define "live without". You can live without most things for X amount of time. This will open up your argument to attacks that you cannot defend. Let's use the trope of "food and water". Food is 1~2 months. Water is 3-7 days. So are you willing to call anything that doesn't match the time frame for water not a need?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:14 AM
1

No one in this thread seems to know what my main point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:09 AM
-4

You realize I never did state sex is a need right? Quote me the text where I said this. You intentionally derailed this thread and ignored the actual argument. You reacted to an adjacent discussion that was completely unrelated to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:00 AM
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No offense, but I don't see how you haven't come across this. This is routinely the standard response (see this thread). My point of this thread is to actually discuss that saying it's a need doesn't imply endorsing the handmaidens tale. Yet most women will insist it does just to overshadow the whole claim to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:55 AM
-1

Almost nobody in this thread has actually responded to my point except you. Why should I even bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:52 AM
-11

I acknowledge that is what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:48 AM
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You didn't read this: I’m not going to argue in this post whether sex IS or IS NOT a need for men. The point of this post is just to debunk a straw man. You're deliberately de-railing this thread. The point, which you seem to be ignoring, is that you don't get to decide something's factuality based on whether it's convenient for you or not. I do intend to write another post about whether sex is or is not a need. But I very intentionally compartmentalized these two very different points. Stay on …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:47 AM
0

I'm not going to explain, because that's not the purpose of this post. My point is that you shouldn't disagree with a fact just because it's inconvenient. You should say something is or is not a need without concern for how it personally implicates you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:43 AM
3

I always fuck up typing somewhere, ever since I committed to typing 100% in Colemak DH. I consider it a life changing tradeoff though.
/r/MensRights02/02/25 09:15 PM
5

I've never done crowd funding but if enough men are interested, I'll see how to create a legal and transparent way to do this. One option is that the funding could go towards a sex robot competition similar to the 2015 DARPA challenge - this would have the development of drawing additional publicity.
/r/MensRights02/02/25 08:35 PM
8

So why don't women pay real human men to do this? Why is there no history of women paying men to act a certain way to them? Why is there no history of women paying male prostitutes to do this? Why don't women pay male sugar babies to do this? Why don't women go to male strip clubs to do this? If you are curious you should ask yourself why women don't do this in the real world.
/r/MensRights02/02/25 04:17 AM
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My point is that women don't want to prompt. Prompting is the equivalent of "paying for it" or giving a command. It's the equivalent of being in a bar and telling a man to come up and hit on you. Women don't want to command someone to show interest and come up and hit on them. They want men to voluntarily show interest without anyone telling them to do it. So prompting is a non-starter for most women. If it wasn't a non-starter they would already pay men money to write them love letters, send te…
/r/MensRights02/02/25 04:03 AM
7

And all of that started with a prompt by you.
/r/MensRights02/02/25 03:52 AM
9

It would show a precedent of women paying for transactional romantic interactions. There's an extremely long history of men paying for something that is ostensibly fake because they still enjoy the acting. There is little to no example of women doing this. You haven't made a persuasive case for why women would buy synthetic prostitutes when they have never even bought biological ones.
/r/MensRights02/02/25 03:40 AM
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Show me one example of a woman who regularly pays for escorts, geishas, strippers or sugar babies. I'll actually make it easier than that. Show me one example of a woman who buys dinner.
/r/MensRights02/02/25 03:29 AM
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It makes sense that women would use chat bots, for the exact reason that they are chat bots. But these are usually extremely autistic women. Even normal women can get therapy on demand from their friends. Women will not pay for sex robots for the same reason that they don't pay for escorts, geishas, strippers or sugar babies. Women want to be the submitter, not the dominator. Women don't enjoy commanding someone to do something to them. Women prefer to be selected and then submit. Women want to …
/r/MensRights02/02/25 03:25 AM
7

MRAs aren't taken seriously because men are incapable of employing leverage. Do you think feminists had any issue with organizing for birth control? Controlling our biology is a fundamental requirement for freedom.
/r/MensRights02/02/25 01:20 AM
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There are no mechanisms for enforcement of sexual leverage. Women have less testosterone than men. Short of men reducing their testosterone or women increasing theirs - there will always be an imbalance. Therefore an alternative solution is to saturate the market with surrogates that fulfill the function.
/r/MensRights01/02/25 09:57 PM
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Elon is half a decade away from a strictly factory prototype. There's really only one company that's pursuing in-home soft robotics and that is 1X. The goal would be to crowd source a campaign to make something similar to what what was recently released at CES 2025.
/r/MensRights01/02/25 09:49 PM
9

Rights that don't have a mechanism for enforcement, frankly don't exist.
/r/MensRights01/02/25 09:45 PM
7

You missed the point. This is a low cost/commitment and high-return strategy. $12 a year cannot accomplish your alternative suggestion.
/r/MensRights01/02/25 09:37 PM
11

Replace "rights" with the correct term, which is "leverage". Any male "right" that has existed in human history has been a result of "leverage". Men don't ask to be treated nicely. They use leverage to negotiate an equitable deal.
/r/MensRights01/02/25 09:35 PM
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This extreme shallow blandness is intentional. They want a profile that can appeal to the maximally unthreatening, triggering or disqualifying to the largest number of women. These people in real life usually resemble your standard marketing sales guy - always full of smiles, able to be relatable in every way but absolutely no soul. Unfortunately this is what women select for on apps. Women don't select for outspoken niche people. There is a strategy that I read about in a book that suggest the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:59 AM
-1

Women didn't do any work is the point. Their power was a happenstance byproduct of technological inventions by men. These inventions could of happened in the 21st century or 22nd century. This is like claiming you worked hard to live a longer life as a result of penicillin being invented. That sexual revolution was an abject failure that resulted in the direct backlash of the victorian era. It resulted in huge numbers of single mothers with what were considered "bastard" children. There was no c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 03:27 AM
0

Women didn't overturn laws. Men did. And women didn't have the leverage to do this until technology enabled them. Namely modern contraceptives, chemical abortion and horsepower to overcome upper body strength in modern appliances. There's a reason why the first feminist movement of the 1800's failed and no feminists ever talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:33 AM
1

Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:30 AM
0

Yes but probably a higher homicide rate. Not sure about the heroine situation now that the country is under new management.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:25 AM
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This is more cultural than anything else. Things like the mafia are civilized. There was less crime when the mafia ran NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:15 AM
0

Hasn't worked in Afghanistan.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:14 AM
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Selective rape isn't proof that women's lives are harder. Rape didn't happen to you, yet? Don't bring it up as a potential threat. Ukraine was a liberal peaceful country and overnight a draft was installed. In any near peer fight there will be a draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:11 AM

Do not ever play that fucking game with me again. Shut your fucking cunt mouth and do not respond to this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:52 PM
2

Some groups practiced man love. In Afghanistan there is Man Love Thursday.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:05 PM
-1

Your last sentence defeats all your other sentences and agrees with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:37 PM
-1

The fuckery is a stress releif for killing. In ancient Greece men went to war in the day and then sat around the campfire at night to discuss philosophy. The violence ingredient was required for the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:35 PM
-5

Your husband doesn't have ride or die bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:32 PM
-2

Soccer is based on Pok Ta' Pok. Do you know what happened to the losing opponent's team?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:31 PM
-10

There are weak male bonds. A male gang unit with a stronger bond will destroy this unit if there were ever to be a conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:28 PM
3

You aren't drafted to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:23 AM
1

We let's put aside the people who can't or don't get any. Now imagine your bro walks in. He says that some chick who bangs every guy in the first date is giving you the "three month test". The right thing to do is to tell that man to have standards and walk. We can't respect a man who will let himself be treated like shit. The fact that the woman sees him as a cockroach is irrelevant. But it's not irrelevant if he chooses be succumb to that. That is where we need to take away his man-card. He do…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:00 AM
1

You said it yourself "one day". Many men play the field till that "one day" hits. You didn't mention your age.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:54 AM
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The real reason is that women want faux communities. But actual communities that exclude women always rediscover male power. Such communities become patriarchal and political. Do you see where I am going with this? Women that say they want male communities really mean they want a doggy play pen with fences around it for men to have tea time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:45 AM
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I believe that if more women were aware of these struggles, they would feel deep empathy and concern. Aware? What are you smoking? Women are aware but just don't give a shit. This is the male world in a nutshell. That boy learned a valuable lesson that day. No one cares about you. No one is coming to save you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:38 AM
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Nearly all K-12 teachers are women. Women enjoy teaching girls. Female teachers cannot be male role models. Females teachers create an environment where boys need to please girls in a thousand subtle ways. Female teachers hate rambunctious boy behavior and punish them by abusing the DSM to put kids on Ritalin or something else to make them sit pretty. How would you feel if you're entire ECE deprived you of anything resembling your manhood. And on top of this made you atone for sins? Nearly all s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:40 PM
2

Most dudes ditch their bros for a whiff of p-sleeve.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:20 PM
1

We're talking about how women view men. We're not talking about how men view men. If a woman is giving it less, worse or later to you than other men - then she (as a woman, views you as less of a man), regardless of how other men view you. But more importantly any man who knowingly tolerates a worse deal will never be considered a real man by other men. It's honestly one step away from being cuckolded.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:44 PM
2

I doubt the person above me is a lawyer. Most likely they got that nonsense out of some dime store romantic novel about lawyers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 05:17 AM
2

It's conceptually a different goal, but legally the bones are similar. The mis-information spreader above me is concerned with the legal aspect. We're discussing legal defense here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 04:02 AM
2

I'm actually not the one selling it and I'm not incentivizing it. They are giving me some of the money from their sale. No different than OnlyFans. My lawyer is a very wise man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 03:28 AM
2

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/judge-dismisses-are-we-dating-same-guy-facebook-group-lawsuit-rcna147043
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 03:07 AM
1

It's a grey zone. Possible liability for the submitter, but not for the host. The information isn't purely public since there is a paywall.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 02:54 AM
2

It wouldn't be the most strategic move.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 02:16 AM
1

You would be indirectly encouraging her to buy the report (she would be curious what is in it).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 01:33 AM
1

I don't. Maybe others do. This is strictly business for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 01:30 AM
1

How much would make it worth your while to charge?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 12:09 AM
1

There would be a form to fill out. One form for men and one form for women. The form for men would probably be delayed until mvp 2. Forms in general would be incentivized to provide more info.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 12:08 AM
3

I believe facebook TEA groups do give out names. So my model matches that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:57 PM
0

I think the flaw in your thinking is that you're conflating partners with prospective partners (suitors). A woman may only end up with four partners but she may go on multiple of that for dates, e.g. 4x10. Each one of those prospects may buy the report.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:56 PM
2

More convenient than getting a lie detector test somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:34 PM
1

Mostly convenience. It's a cross sell that she can purchase on the same page after purchasing her own "false" report.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:30 PM
-1

It's not. I checked with a lawyer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:28 PM
0

Not with a non-polygraph lie detector that she can purchase from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:26 PM
1

They can use a lie detector test. The non-polygraph ones are very reliable and are now being used in court to convict crimes with. I see myself as the "good guy" here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:24 PM
3

The same way any other e-commerce site is made.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:23 PM
1

Not following.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:22 PM
1

They would need to provide DL and other info. Standard approach that other providers/gov-agencies use. The info would be unverified but they are liable to be individually sued if it's defamation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:21 PM
1

That's the name for the pages you're referring to. It's colloquially known as "spilling the tea".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:14 PM
1

The site allows the woman to sue the man if the info is false (at her own expense). A clever woman would probably like to profit off false allegations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:12 PM
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Then you can sue the individual user (not the company). Or you can pay for a non-polygraph lie detector test to have the information removed (it it's false).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:09 PM
1

Ok you wouldn't report. But would you pay for a report?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:07 PM
-2

I didn't assume it's all men, but I did provide examples for one sex. I see it as the same as intentionality the same as TEA pages, with the caveat that those pages are actually worse. Those pages don't enforce honesty and this business would. Those pages don't collect real info on the submitter and there's no recourse to removing false information.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:07 PM
-1

Yes. Would you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:04 PM
1

She can buy a paid lie detector test. This would not be a polygraph test. If she passes the lie detector test then the content can be removed and the submitter will be banned. If she fails the lie detector test then the content stays up. Or if she's confident that the submitted into is indeed false, she can sue that exact user for defamation (but not the company). There will be a cost per a lie detector test and this goes all to Sexfax - not the submitter. It's not clear to me from a legal stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:03 PM
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It's a way to blatantly skirt the rule of making a top level post when you're blatantly not the identified audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:41 PM
1

Well you can't have sex without female submission. And sexual submission is a better indication than anything else, except perhaps child breeding - which obviously involves sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:12 PM
1

I dumped her because she wasn't submissive enough. And because her country turned into a warzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:05 PM
1

No he's not! He wants validation early. No validation means no love. The sex is just there to keep score. It doesn't even need to be good. He can masturbate beforehand. In fact he can outright reject sex as long as she makes it clear he can "tap that ass".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:58 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:56 PM
1

Doubtful. The female version of porn is the romance novel. And these novels are always about a bout finite men of high value voluntarily selecting them. The appeal is in being chosen, not in the transactional sex. If women wanted transactional sex they could already go to stripclubs, hire escorts or pay for sugarbabies. What % of women fly to Jamaica for sex vacations where they pay local men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:55 PM
1

What separates masculinity from not is how much you got in comparison to the other men who dicked her. If she gave it earlier, better or more frequently then she views you as less masculine. And she loves you less on a primal level. Men who got it worse are objectively losers by objectively getting less. But of course men don't like measuring when they come up short. All that other mumbo jumbo is just "nice to have" for her. It doesn't factor into how a woman actually thinks about you on a prima…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 03:34 AM
1

You can post screenshots with sensitive details censored.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:35 PM
1

I'm older than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:34 PM
1

If you're unwilling to text and interrogate these suspicious male friends you claim to have right now then why should I trust you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:16 PM
1

Let's cut the crap. How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:14 PM
1

I'm not sure if how paying for a dinner affects the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:14 PM
1

You should have auditioned for the Matrix with that level of bullet dodging.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:18 PM
1

Well you sound really eww.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:18 PM
1

Where did I say I wouldn't pay for a dinner?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:15 PM
1

So your friends happiness level is unconfirmed. I'm not bothered by you being preachy. I am bothered by you assuming that you're older than me. I'm probably your elder and you should be treating the same way you would treat your grandfather. You have at least admitted that some of the men whom have "all the details" are not happy. How quickly can you ask your male friends this question? We need to settle this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:14 PM
1

Men should have sex robot orgies. This will be an incredibly powerful bonding experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:38 PM
1

I want to know what kind of man I'm dealing with. Let's simplify this. Was your last girlfriend an 18 year old lingerie model?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:27 PM
1

This is pure red pill, not black pill. Most "red pill" men are blue pillers that need to be reeducated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:20 PM
1

Did the men you are referring to get sex more or less quickly than previous men? Did the men you are referring to get anal like the previous men? Let's go straight to the important stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:18 PM
1

My last girlfriend was an 18 year old model who was taller than me. How about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:14 PM
1

Just don't mention it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:09 PM
-1

Obviously bogus nonsense without the former. Extremely pathetic for a man to be any of the above with a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:05 PM
1

Why should I give credence to men who pathetically accept to get less sex from their woman than all previous partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:04 PM
1

How so? Your question is "how is propaganda propaganda"? It's propaganda because the intention is to short circuit critical thinking by conveying massages that directly attack the nervous system. Why do you need comparisons to feel you are value? This is an acceptance of it being propaganda. I don’t understand where you inferred this from my comment. What is this black box and why does it mean men are treated like shit? You mentioned subconscious. I don’t see what point you are trying to make wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:01 PM
1

From worse to best: - Abusive woman, who doesn't love you. - No woman. - Woman who loves you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:56 PM
1

Sexual attraction isn't the basis of this post. The point of this post is that a willingness to have sex (or not) is an indicator of primal interest. Whether this primal interest is physical or otherwise is anyones guess. You obviously passed the primal test despite being less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:54 PM
1

I haven't encountered women whom have sex early specifically to trap men into a dead bedroom and get drip financial benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:47 PM
0

Not sure how you're contradicting anything I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:41 AM
1

It really depends on how you philosophically frame success. Some people are perfectionist and have a zero sum mentality. As an example Steve Jobs was this way. He would rather have something be perfect or not at all. Also some people believe avoiding risk is superior to getting a return. e.g. it's better to not go into debt than to grow a pile of money. I consider it a positive to avoid negative. I would rather be single than with a woman who objectively does not love me and objectively is using…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:34 AM
-2

I'm not actually sure what a strop is. And there wouldn't be any screaming. Within 10 minutes of the date ending, she would be ghosted and I would be distracted by having a provider distract me with professional expertise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:24 AM
2

Non-existent!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:57 AM
1

Your colorful commentary is not how I would put it, but yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:57 AM
1

Go find me an example of groupie men knowingly surrounding a female killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:46 AM
2

Which part or sequence of words don't you understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:45 AM
-1

I'm not sure how you drew that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:43 AM
1

One who doesn't have sex with you according to what I said in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:37 AM
0

You're basically telling me to trust you that you're not lying through your teeth when every blue pill man I've wrestled with is the polar opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:36 AM
-1

You can probably predictably find such a killer from every decade who did the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:34 AM
-5

It's women who bank rolled Ted Bundy's killing spree of women. They made a killing (literally).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:13 AM
1

My current logistics are a rather peculiar and quite frankly unbelievable situation. But I can assure you that my experience prior to the metaphorical current second grant me a wide body of in-the-field experience that's deeper in the weeds than most people have traversed on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:10 AM
1

That's anti-measurement, anti-comparison propaganda. It's pure faith based arguing. Let's attribute love to a black box that objectively and measurably treats men like shit. Let's asses a female on something unassessable instead of something on the public ledger that nobody can deny.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:06 AM
1

Try to select a low interest female under the rule set I provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:02 AM
0

We all know those are the default blue pill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:02 AM
4

This isn't advice for blue pill men who prefer groveling to women at whatever scraps they are thrown. There's no point in discussing success or lack of success with someone who doesn't even believe in comparing A vs B. Why bother discussing anything with someone who wants to make it illegal to ask anything about how a woman treated you in relation to her other partners? I can assure you that I have lots of experience in getting what I am god damn entitled to. I will always make sure that I'm the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:00 AM
1

There are a significant number of blue pill men on here that get less, worst and significantly delayed sex to previous partners. They are triggered by mentioning anything about comparison whatsoever. Their response is always "why should I care if I'm getting less if I am happy" - it's a very gross rationalization that they pathetically live with. Absolutely eww.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:46 AM
0

What if she has shown to be willing to put her life on the line for you? Make some massive personal sacrifices for you? Care for you when you are unable? I don't care if she gets herself killed for me. Firemen and cops can do that too. I want her to fuck me. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:35 AM
-1

You can't select a low interest mate under this sorting filter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:27 AM
5

Are these happy LTR the same men who are happy being treated comparatively worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:23 AM
1

I haven't encountered ones in the wild who provide it early.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:22 AM
-6

It probabilistically forces you to arrive at a better outcome. Yes. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:32 AM
-3

Mennonites.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:31 AM
1

There are three things we're comparing here: Soulmate (instant sex on 1st date, etc) Non-Soulmate (dead bedroom) Provider (sex on tap) I was comparing a provider to a non-soulmate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:26 AM
1

If you followed the sequence prescribed you would know that this wasn't possible. This is only suggested in cases where a woman rejects you sexually and therefore you ghost her. So that woman is non-existent at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:24 AM
-1

They're both faking something. Usually an escort is a better deal per an exploitation transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:22 AM
-2

To exploit you financially or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:17 AM
0

It's healthy because it will keep you focused. It's essentially the same principle as Ozempic. You'll feel sated and therefore not commit to women who don't love you out of physical desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:16 AM
1

Less likely if you're not paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:15 AM
-8

Paid providers don't have enthusiasm. They are actresses that artificially contract a different set of facial muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:12 AM
-19

Superior or equal sexual enthusiasm to any previous partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:08 AM
-1

It should be noted that women are the biggest validators of the red pill strategy. They would rather have freedom and take a chance with psychopaths than an arranged marriage to a boring boy from church.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:08 AM
1

It won't let me post a link. Check front page.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:55 AM
1

I plan summarize my thinking in a new thread. I can give you the link once it is made if you would like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:19 AM
1

It's not a requirement for date 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 10:44 PM
1

They can be turned off by the preference but it's not possible for them to be turned off by the consequence since they would be unaware of it. But it's sufficient information to just know they'll be turned off by the preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 10:43 PM
1

This was in reference to your line about a different species. They might as well be.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 10:41 PM
1

Correct, which is why I am harvesting female answers to update my model of the female brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 10:40 PM
1

No they don't mean the same thing. An end result does not mean the same thing. That's completely irrational. Manslaughter, second degree murder and first degree murder all have the same result. If your thinking is same result = same thing - that's very easy to debunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 09:26 PM
1

This is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:15 PM
1

That's not the equivalent. The equivalent is your boss saying nothing at all. But you, our of the ether, "sense" that he wants some.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:05 PM
-1

No different at all. You reject a man for a second date because: He didn't buy you dinner. He didn't go to a nice restaurant. He didn't drive a nice car. He wore something weird/stupid. He was boring. The man is rejecting you because you didn't have sex with him. No difference at all. You're equally not entitled to a mans body when you demand he uses his vocal chords to talk to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:01 PM
-1

Are men allowed to? Or do men need your certification and permission about what they're allowed to feel or not feel? I guess men aren't allowed to express feelings on anything without your approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:56 PM
1

Preference for first date. Requirement for second date. Have you ever had a first date and discontinued the second date based on something they did or didn't do on second date? If yes, then it's no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:53 PM
-1

Women have 20x less testosterone than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:51 PM
-1

Some of the women here did it with people they "knew". Many did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:46 PM
1

You didn't answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:44 PM
-1

And yet, most women have at some point have had sex on the first date with some man. So it's false that attraction has a growth aspect. It's instant - there or not. Anything else is just time to rationalize settling for something your disgusted by.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:40 PM
1

So what's the equivalent low-key acceptable version of “I’m looking for something serious,”?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:36 PM
1

Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:32 PM
-1

Your question isn't genuine. You're just asking this question for other intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:31 PM
1

Answer my questions and then I'll answer yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:26 PM
1

It's a requirement for the second date. And it's a requirement that's only explicitly stated after the fact. It's no different than saying internally in your head "I will only eat at this restaurant a second time if they serve my meal within 30 minutes". Obviously that's not demand because you haven't told anyone. People can't read your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:26 PM
1

Completely wrong. Categorically, legally, in every way. Try going to court and saying "my boss demanded to have sex with he". If you're response is "he never said this, I just got a feeling" - you'll be laughed out of court and counter sued for defamation. It's obviously not a demand for the first date. It's a requirement for the second dates but also not demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:23 PM
1

My post isn't shitty. It's just camouflaged against people below a certain IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 09:05 AM
-1

It's an ultimatum for the second date not the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 09:04 AM
0

Is everyone entitled to their own to their own feelings or are only women's feeling allowed to be validated? Please give me the official list of things that men are or are not allowed to feel rejected for. Also please let me know how you were elected into this position to say what men are and are not allowed to feel in different situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 09:03 AM
2

It cannot possibly be a demand in the way you stated because at no time did the person ever say "If you don't give me sex on the first date, then no second date". That's an internal monologue that is unstated. Do you see the difference between and unstated internal monologue and an explicitly stated external demand? As an example if you internally say to yourself "if he doesn't bring me flowers on this first date then no second date" - it's not a demand. It's a preference that he doesn't even kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:59 AM
2

It's not common to communicate this way. Typically people gradually reveal more information on successive communications. For example someone may say later that they don't date druggies or that they are don't date divorced people. It's perfectly acceptable to state disqualifications after a first date that only apply to a second or third date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:53 AM
1

Jesus Christ. You're not following what I said and I'm not gonna waste compute on this. Someone else can deal with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:50 AM
0

If you still go on the date regardless of A or B then it's not an ultimatum. For it to be an ultimatum you never would have gone on the date in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:46 AM
0

Well to defend the person's view you rejected them. And people are sensitive to being told you don't like them. So I'm not sure what you should expect. You made them feel deeply unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:45 AM
1

There are many things that are deal breakers for date #1, date #2, date #3, etc. Not everyone makes it past a first or second date. That's normal in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:42 AM
-4

She didn't. Jesus Christ. I guess you didn't see what I did there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:39 AM
0

I feel like I'm repeating myself.. He is being authentic. He stated what he wants. It's not a game, a trick, a tactic. He stated his highest preference in the most obvious way. There is no mask. Whereas every other guy is doing the opposite. Every other guy is concealing his preference and trying to indirectly manipulate you into his preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:37 AM
-4

Not believing him is valid suspicion (apparently). But your objecting to sex on the first date in general. And there's plenty of women in this thread that have done it or even prefer it. So there's at least some segment of the population out there that does this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:34 AM
-1

It's not a demand if he's willing to go without it. If it was actually a demand then he wouldn't agree to the date unless it was guaranteed. A demand is when a man pays an escort for 1hr of service and expects sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:32 AM
-1

Correct. A man cannot state his preference. If a man states a preference it's automatically a demand. When in reality a man has said "I like A but if I get B - that's fine".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:30 AM
-2

All men have to adhere to the rules stated here. They will be equally flogged.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:28 AM
0

Correct it's a deal breaker for the second date. It's not a deal breaker for the first date. She's allowed to waste her time with the first date if she wants to. I don't know why she would want to, but that's up to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:27 AM
0

So if there's no way to convey this preference in an acceptable way, then the result will just be that he doesn't go on a second date. You'll find out why when you two communicate next. Is this acceptable? He didn't pressure you and he respected your wishes. But this does result in no second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:22 AM
-2

You're saying you wouldn't sleep with any guy on a first date anymore. But you're not saying you wouldn't sleep with a guy in the scenario I propose as a result of what he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:20 AM
1

You're correct about my OP. But my comment is referring to the reply above. I don't know how to restate that any more clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:18 AM
-5

You don't know why I'm hung up on you misstating something? Can I ask you why you think forcing men to buy you a Rolex on dates is acceptable? You see what I did there?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:17 AM
-6

It's not always on the table. Plenty of women date with little to no interest in sex. And a different time table for many men is a turn off. The passion level needs to match.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:14 AM
0

So it sounds like you have some empathy for this preference and recognize that when this comes from a man it sounds bad. To be fair, your opinion is different from every other woman's opinion in this thread. So it may not have value to general women but might as well ask - is there any more acceptable way for men to convey this preference - or are men just shit out of luck?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:12 AM
-2

So you would go out with him but consider him a pariah for being transparent?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:08 AM
-2

I'm not sure how you're comparing the two. In this case the man is high libido - in your case your husband is low libido. You're saying you would discriminate against a high libido man who's been stuck with low libido partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:07 AM
-1

That's basically advocating for dishonesty as a more affective strategy at realizing a preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:06 AM
1

Which is the point of this post. He's stating his preference up front. Apparently there's no acceptable way to do that. You're not entitled to the outcome of how you make someone else feel. If you do something that makes them feel lack of interest then it doesn't matter. You should have done something differently if you wanted a different outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:04 AM
0

It's a deal-breaker for the second date. Not for the first date. And this is identical to the original post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:02 AM
-2

Essentially you can't protect yourself against HPV so it's pointless to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:59 AM
-1

It sound like you wouldn't do it, but not for the reason I stated. You wouldn't do it regardless. Whereas many women in this thread specifically object to the stating the preference beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:58 AM
-1

I get that's how it's coming off. And guess what the conclusion is that men need to make from this? There's no acceptable way to state a preference about something you prefer on a relationship. So I guess men should just never state their preference. I guess they should dump you after the first date. And when you ask why - it's too late and tough shit because there's no acceptable way to convey a preference in a civil way apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:53 AM
-1

He didn't write it as a pre-req though. You made that up. He wrote it as a preference. If you write "I love chocolates and flowers on my first date." - then that's no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:51 AM
0

You're providing some general context that is helpful in general awareness of how women think. But you haven't provided an actual alternative. You're basically saying that yes, the man should just decline, according to his standards. I guess it's just tough luck that you liked him and there was zero acceptable way to convey boundary line.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:49 AM
0

You say "suggest in messages" what does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:46 AM
-8

Basically what I get from you as a woman, is that men stating preferences are demands. But women stating preferences are not demands. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:44 AM
1

If you read my other posts, by ghost I just mean "don't initiate a follow up text or phone call". Let's suppose her responded to a follow up text you sent with "Hey I enjoyed the evening together but you didn't have sex with me. I feel you're not into me, so just wanted to say good luck."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:24 AM
-4

So would you find it reasonable and acceptable for him to tell you after the date or the next day "Hey I enjoyed the evening together but you didn't have sex with me. I feel you're not into me, so just wanted to say good luck."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:23 AM
0

HPV has at least one vaccine. And you're no more or less safe with condoms unfortunately. This means that even "safe" people are less safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:20 AM
-9

It's not a demand, it's a preference. It's no different from "I would prefer he holds my hand on the first date". You may get that or you may not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:17 AM
-5

What's the best alternative way of conveying this preference then? Or is there no alternative and should he just play the odds and decline a second date even if you were unaware of his sensitivity around this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:15 AM
-6

There's no demand for sex here when he clearly says it's not obligated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:13 AM
1

You're conflating two things. It's a obviously a preference to have sex on the date. Because anything else is rape. But not getting sex will make him feel unwanted. So it's a deal breaker to have a second date. And by ghost I just mean he wouldn't initiate calling or texting her again. Let's suppose he does respond to her texting/calling him and he informs her that he enjoyed the evening but that he feels she's not into him because they didn't have sex. He wishes her the best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:12 AM
0

By ghost I essentially mean not initiate another text back. But let's suppose that he is open to getting texts back from you. When you text him back he thanks you for the evening but says that since you guys didn't have sex he feels you're not into him and wishes you the best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:09 AM
0

Because it indicates that it's at least in the realm acceptability. What is unclear is where those markers are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:06 AM
-5

So is there an alternative way to convey this in the rather short dating window. Let me reiterate the context. He's had a series of dead bedrooms. He doesn't want to be lead on. He wants obvious real passion. Point being in absence of conveying his need - he will walk after the first date if he doesn't get any. And if you liked him - you're going to wonder why. But by then it will obviously be too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:05 AM
1

What part did you not understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:01 AM
1

He would have no way of knowing about your past in the scenario above. So that can't possibly be used as a reason for him "expecting" it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:01 AM
-13

So a follow up question then. Let's suppose he's socially adept enough to understand that stating this signals something "bad". But he really is not looking for a hookup. He's just burnt out from low interest women and dead bedrooms. So let's suppose the date goes well. You like him, he likes you. But you didn't tick his box. He ghosts you. If you happen to enquire or follow up with him he just tells you matter of factly that he doesn't trust you being into him because you didn't give it up - wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 05:59 AM
1

Transmission rate is higher from men to women but they're both extremely low in PIV heterosexual sex. Anal raises the stakes for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 05:55 AM
-1

I'm not seeing the difference between stating and not stating a preference. Both are not expectation. Practically speaking here, you're signaling to men that they should keep their preference unstated is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 05:53 AM
0

So the socially ept thing to do would be to not state this preference but then ghost her after if he she doesn't live up to his standards (that he has no socially ept way of conveying prior)?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 05:49 AM
-4

And having sex on the first date or third date doesn't affect transmission risk. Aids are practically non-existent for heterosexual people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 05:46 AM
0

So you think that all other men don't prefer to have sex on a first date? Is what they are doing just unstated entitlement in that case?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 05:45 AM
-3

And why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 05:43 AM
6

Let's look at your average American citizen today. Most likely, they live in a major city or just outside of it in a suburb. They have a short commute to work. Some may walk on the city sidewalks, take a bike, or even public transit. In some cases where safety or comfort is of priority, a short car ride can easily happen. Even if they don't own a car, they can take Uber or Lyft. As long as they make enough money, they can eat out for all 3 meals every day and cooking at home is just a comfort an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 05:15 AM
1

Well, you were divorced once so that means you were objectively liked once by someone. You were presumably tolerated when you were an alcoholic, which means you could only be better after. You didn't mention your financial situation. I would presume it has something to do with the questions that are illegal to ask here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:12 AM
7

Stealing money from other people to support your own genetics that you can't afford is wrong. Creating conditions that disproportionately propagate violent misfits is wrong. Supporting incompetence as a virtue for the evolution of any culture is wrong .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:04 AM
-2

I'll answer more broadly: In general any looks based criticism doesn't affect men. Men acknowledge that some men look better than others, but we're not jealous of other men's looks. Men don't get into fist fights over what someone said about their "looks". We don't feel a loss of our identity when our looks suck or degrade. Our loss of identity comes from loss of competence, weakness or power. We know other men look better than us. And we know our women want to fuck other men. We just don't want…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 07:42 PM
0

A woman made the above statement about parties. I practically spit out the $15 latte that I waited 20 minutes in line for.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 06:32 AM
0

Emotions are heuristics and female emotions are incredibly bad heuristics because they're often based on training data that's situational. e.g. "I'm invited to parties by all the boys - it must be my great personality."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:50 AM
1

An emotional decision is fundamentally irrational. The fact that an emotional decision can land on rational choice has nothing to do with the process, which is irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:20 AM
1

If it wasn't for that can of cooked beans they would have all been goners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:12 AM
1

You don't want to make anything objectively measured in a relationship? OK let's not measure the amount of times a woman is beaten by a man. After all it goes both ways. If we can't tally anything as making a relationship objectively worse or better then anything goes - including a woman being beaten. You're not allowed to say a man doesn't love a woman when he beats her or that she's being treated worse. Because you have given up on objectivity. And there it goes. An unwillingness to be open an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:48 PM
1

No - my requirement is that she loves me as much as the last guy. It's pure evil gas lighting to imply that a woman who loves you equally or more would go out of their way to give you less and have less passion with you. If a woman finds herself in a circumstance where she wants to date a man she loves less then her options are: a) Admit she loves the man less and let the chips fall where they may. b) Lie to the man and treat him like shit. c) Leave the man so she doesn't need to face a) or b). …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:39 PM
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It's not lying by omission to not state your intention when nobody even asked or when women intentionally don't ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:04 AM
0

I'm the most honest man on this board. And everyone is extremely mean spirited to me for carrying this cross on my back.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:25 AM
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And what happens when a man says nothing? Women claim they are used. They claim they are used because in the absence of an explicit "I want to marry you" - they fill in their own fantasy blanks and act like they were let on. It's like duh, you slept with a guy way out of your league and then act surprised when he ghosts you. Saying nothing isn't by default whatever is in the woman's head. She can only claim to be used if he actually lied.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:52 AM
1

I followed your chain fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:46 AM
1

Not oddly specific. This syncs with my experience. Men never pull out their photos to take pictures of food. It's quite rude if you think about it. If it's a home cooked meal and they had no part in cooking it - why do they get say when everyone can eat and not eat. And if it's at a restaurant then you likely bought your own food. Everyone is delayed because one single woman wants to pad her instagram? Absolutely odorous behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:44 AM
3

Your definition of a provider is wrong. Providing goes along with female dependency. Most men don't want to work their ass off while miss independent still has a job. In other words providing is about leverage. Women have sexual leverage. Men have resource leverage. The combination of these is a balanced relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 07:56 PM
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No woman is entitled to force men to believe their lies. Just come and and say you love the man less that you're giving less sex to. We're sick and tired of these lies. If men get less, you love them less. End. Of. Story.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 06:52 PM
2

That's not a positive if one woman had skills, still failed and was ignored. Expand that dysfunctionality to a whole society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 07:41 AM

Fucking guy A on the first date. And not guy B... Is different from not fucking guy A or B on the first date. Non one objects to a nun. Men do object to a girl being playboy bunny with guy A and not B. She better give us the same treatment. We're not gonna be lead on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 05:22 AM

Waiting is fine, if, and only if the wait for every. single. man. Not waiting for one man... And waiting for another man... Is incredibly deceitful and disgusting behavior... just admit you don't like us.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 05:20 AM
1

They had to throw a can of baked beans into the women's camp so that they wouldn't starve. This can was then "discovered" along with a handy dandy can opener. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 02:19 AM
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The producers needed to intervene on the behalf of the women and the network almost needed to shut down the show due to health risks from women. The show creator made the show with the intention of showing that women were as competent as men. So no - the show did not deliberately select incompetent women and competent men. This was all unplanned.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 02:12 AM
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No you need to create a TV with a random sampling of the population where women don't literally kill themselves on an island - e.g. the same outcome that men had.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 02:10 AM
1

The women almost killed themselves on the show. Only women can make a reality show actually have such a real effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 01:46 AM
2

Correct. It doesn't matter what the weight is. And if it's such an easily debunkable lightweight argument then debunk it by showing the opposite claim with the same weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 01:45 AM

> Why Because otherwise you don't love us.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 01:43 AM

Show non-interest equally to all men then. Men are objecting to your pattern - not the fact that it happened or didn't happen. Fuck one guy and not another - yeah that's unforgivable horrible treatment from a woman - obviously treating the guy like garbage. If you want to be a nun, be a nun with everyone and every single man on this board will respect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:50 PM

Arguments like this are always faith based arguments. They never use any objective metric and are anti-comparison because this would obviously show the emperor has no clothes. Why don't you start with admitting that this argument is no different than "you should believe in God and you deserve to live a shittier life because God actually says it's a better life". I'll translate to the above for you: "you should believe in getting less sex and you deserve to live with less sex in life because beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:42 PM
3

Then it should be easy to provide counter evidence of the same weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:04 PM
1

I disagree with your disagreement. Standing by my opinion. Men who won't give future women the same deal are getting a shittier deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:53 PM
1

It would serve as an equal weight of evidence to counter the weight of my evidence for the opposite claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:51 PM
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Can you find me a survivor show of men and women dropped in the wild that actually shows this instead of the direct opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:30 PM
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If a sister or daughter voluntarily dated an asshole instead of a non-asshole then she's a psychopath anyways. There's no accidentally dating an asshole. It's all conscious and intentional. I don't want to hear any excuse nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:18 PM
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Oh this is easy. I would create two societies simultaneously: An all-male patriarchal society. An all-female feminist society. Women would be given the choice of living in their utopia or voluntarily submitting to live under men. And it would be obvious what would eventually happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:10 PM
2

You say you wouldn't do it, but it's a lizard brain reaction. You will feel disgust involuntarily even if you intellectually profess to it not being an issue. You want us to die on that horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 03:03 AM

Approaching women in real life is the default historical norm in absence of dating apps. The default historical norm is networking through arranged dates. There was a short term period from roughly the 80's to the early 2000's where approaching women in bars had more prominence. But there is no historical period in history where talking to strangers on the street is considered the norm. If you want to understand how actual alphas acquire women then read a history book. Do you think Genghis Khan …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 02:59 AM
1

So run it locally. What do you think the military will be doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 02:53 AM
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You're observing the environment but not seeing what men like. Fairness and respect can only exist in all male spaces. A space that is intermixed with men and women instantly changes because the dynamic becomes all about putting down other men to impress the minority of women. In an all male space, you need to stand on your words. This forces the world to behave in a more respectful way because every action does have a consequence. It's a space where gravity can actually be felt in a visceral wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 02:49 AM
1

No, women can do that until they decide to do the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:20 PM
3

Put 100% of the money in an index fund that's in a trust for the child that only the child can access in 50% split distributed payments after age 18 and 22. No I do not agree with one parent giving money to another parent to let that parent then spend it however they want. If they were incompetent enough to get divorced then they're incompetent enough to not manage funds. Now you'll ask where do the funds come from? Require divorce to have a high but manageable cost. This can be the same as payi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:36 PM
1

She doesn't have to do this or this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:16 PM
1

There's nothing wrong with men legally creating the best life for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:06 PM
1

4" to 5". Platforms are even better. Skirts should be above knee - variations above knee are acceptable. Only cook with whole foods. No microwave food. No meal kits. Should include animal based protein, complex carb, variations of vegetables. 3x meals a day, but can be bulked cook 1x per week. A rotation of 9 different meals.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:02 PM
1

I'm fine with prostitution but it's cost prohibitive. It's about the same hourly price as hiring a lawyer - a luxury activity. In a metropolitan city a mid-range escort costs ~$300/hr. A high-end one will easily start at $1k~$2k an hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:20 AM
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The shape of a sex object doesn't change it's function. It's a penile stimulation device. And a wax doll in a museum isn't any more human than an android/gynoid is. There are no "illegal behaviors" you can do to a toaster. These things are not humans, they don't have human rights and there's no concept of suffering with what you're doing to a fancy toaster. I do think men will start treating real women more like shit both physically and otherwise after these hit the market at mass scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:02 PM
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Men already pay $2-$5k for non-animated dolls. Tesla Optimus is estimated to be $30k. Unitree is $16k. This market is ripe for super explosion. What we're seeing above it the Model T from a small boutique manufacturer. There will probably be a billion of these by the time we hit the 2040's.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:57 PM

If she's not voluntarily doing it of her own accord then she doesn't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:52 PM
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It is shittier treatment. And the only people who tolerate it are cowardly men that don't deserve to be called men and aren't real men - what a bunch tiny pathetic losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:52 PM
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I don't fucking care.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:50 PM
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I'll repeat, it's not about suffering. It's about equality. She could have done something in the past that she liked or disliked. If I like it also then I expect her to replicate or surpass it for me. (A) is normal. This is the desire to be loved as much as a previous person. It's extremely hateful gas lighting to imply that it's normal to accept being treated like an absolute cockroach piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:50 PM
1

They're more monolithic than less monolithic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:43 PM
0

Who cares about what women say? Look at what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:42 PM
1

This is the worst they will ever be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:41 PM
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Prostitution is not cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:40 PM
0

NO EXCEPTIONS Mennonites don't make exceptions. Ultra Orthodox Jews don't make exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 07:49 AM
0

Can you find a video about 5,000 men complaining about the male sex robot at CES or any sex doll?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:42 AM
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Most men in romantic relationships are one argument away from a dead bedroom and and any sexual response they get is predicated on a more socially acceptable form of sugar babying (marriage). The difference between men in this group and men who can't get into this group is usually just luck and conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 02:30 AM
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There are differences. Most men haven't been cheated on. The men who have been cheated on usually dump the woman on the spot rather than tolerating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 02:26 AM
0

No one cared about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKFHZuCvvS4
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 02:22 AM
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Wow an actually practical thread. Women mostly need to STOP doing things. They don't even need to DO things. Here's a STOP list: STOP destroying your natural skin with ugly drawings called tattoos. STOP having metal shit implanted in your face. STOP eating shit. STOP fucking a lot of men. STOP getting pregnant. Wow a whole five things every woman can do by literally just being born. Here's a DO list: DO lift weights. DO cardio. DO wear high heels. Not 1" heels. DO grow long hair. DO wear dresses…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 02:18 AM
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And yet there are no examples of this. No man gave a flying F about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 02:01 AM
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It's for having sex with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 01:56 AM
2

One man recently wrote that a rented AI GF is just a whore. A real AI GF is locally run.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 01:53 AM
1

A sex bot is a vibrator. You can use a sex bot on him but lifting it up and holding it over him with a crane or pulley type device.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 01:49 AM
1

Thanks for the antidotes. It's unclear to me how homeless people haven't been culled. Yes cities are bad mostly everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 01:48 AM
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I’m curious, is it about actually enjoying this thing she did for another man, or is it about proving she’s more willing to make sacrifices? The latter. A willingness to make sacrifices. If there's a complicated recipe that she was willing to cook for a previous partner but not for me (even though I hate that dish) - then she's also at fault here for not loving me as much. If you do want it and enjoy it, why are you willing to settle for less from a woman as long as she also did less for another…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 01:43 AM
0

So you're OK with restricting his vibrator, but not OK with him restricting your vibrator?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:45 PM
1

It's genuine because it's equal. You didn't get more or less than some other guy. If a man demands less of something that he finds pleasurable then there are two possible reasons for this. (1) She's hotter and therefore can get away with more. (2) She less hot, therefore it's less desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:43 PM
1

There are no auxiliary functions. There's one single function. You can make the same argument about a multi-speed, 2 head, random spinning vibrator not being the same as a traditional analog vibrator.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:27 PM
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The only way for her to show love is if she makes an equal amount of sacrifices. If a previous sacrifice included pain, then yes pain is required. I would be fine is she didn't give anal to every man. That would show that she doesn't love a man any less. Her love is genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:24 PM
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The complexity of a system does not determine it's function. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Goldberg_machine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpLDfkLBJ0Q
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:21 PM
3

Ask any woman who toilets get fixed. "I call the guy"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:15 PM
3

It's objectively shittier treatment to get less of objectively measurable things. I'll throw every woman out the door who ever tries giving me less.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:12 PM
3

We don't need to do anything. A sex robot, sold under capitalism, is a byproduct of demand. Full stop. No company is under obligation to make something that can't be justified by profit. Sex robots for women will always fundamentally have less demand. First and foremost, women want to be selected. If they just wanted a transactional act then they could pay for it, go to a strip club, hire a sugar baby, etc. Why is there no history of prostitution with women "paying for it". Because the act is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:10 PM
1

She's never done it because she didn't want to do it is the point. Trying it once when she knows she won't like it is still "boyfriend pleasing behavior". She was willing to do it once for him and zero for everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:04 PM
2

Wrong, a sex slave is a human. We don't don't consider robots in factories to be slaves. The shape of a mechanical box, doesn't make it human. Just like wax statues in a museum aren't entrapped slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:00 PM
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No, it's a male vibrator. The size or shape of a vibrator doesn't change it's function, which is penile stimulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:57 PM
1

What if it's $20k or $10k?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:56 PM
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A charitable view on women that is easily dubunked. Women basically don't even consider men human beings. We're just genies that live in their toilets that magically make shit disappear when it gets plugged up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:55 PM
2

A mid-tier escort in a metropolitan area starts at around $300/hr. A high priced escort easily goes for between $1-$2k per hour. So a $20k one time investment would be an extreme payoff if it was realistic enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:52 PM
1

So I assume you're ok with him restricting you from having a vibrator?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:48 PM
2

There are no reaction videos about hatred to male sex dolls/robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:46 PM
2

Unusually enlightened take. Can you give any examples of male behaviors of despair that you have witnessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:42 PM
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Exactly why I made this thread. I was surprised women shifted from "leave us alone and go fuck your toys" to straight up "lets stop these things and any man who likes them is horrible".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:41 PM
4

Correct. See all the robots now available in 2024: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fvlxek7gx1qvc1.jpeg Walking is a solved problem. I would be surprised if something doesn't come in 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:34 PM
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Pain isn't the end goal. Equal treatment is, or at least her admitting that she's giving unequal treatment because she loves me less. This whole discussion can end very quickly - women just need to admit they love their settled men less. Us men despise being lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:24 PM
2

There's a broad range of legal conduits to achieve incremental gains for men and losses for women. This includes ballot measures, electing appropriate representatives and relying on black swan executive orders.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:21 PM
2

You really didn't read anything I wrote. It's not jealous to say "you're giving me shittier treatment - I quit".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:18 PM
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It's function is explicitly for the purpose of being a vibrator for men. So yes I do consider it the same. It's more sophisticated and polished, but it's not a human and it never will be. Just because your car outperforms a horse doesn't mean we should call it animal cruelty when we destroy our car. Yet a car is what replaced a horse. If a sex robot functionally replaces a woman due to it stimulating orgasms then it's still a mechanical box.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:52 AM
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That's because they are expensive. There's no low priced brothel in the entire world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:48 AM
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Well that's a pretty different tune from what we've been hearing all these years. The tune has always been "go ahead loser.. thank god you'll leave us alone". So it seems things have changed. Women are starting to care because the idea that men can walk around with sex slaves that they can beat the shit out of probably makes women think this will leak into regular dating culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:44 AM
-2

Caring or not caring isn't the point. The point is woman feign indifference and then at the first remote sign of "oh this shit got real" woman shreik.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:40 AM
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The 1st solution is to legally and democratically vote to take away women's rights through our voting power as United States citizens. Democracies allow people to vote however they want and that includes voting illiberally. The 2nd solution is to find sources of dopamine and oxytocin that can be generated artificially. Our testosterone urges can be addressed through simulated sex via VR, haptic or embodied robots. We just need the price and quality to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 05:32 AM
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No, that's not what I was saying. What I was saying was: If she's never done something... And then out of the blue her boyfriend asks... And she never would have done it if he didn't ask... Then it's obvious, even before doing said thing... That she didn't like said thing... But she did it anyways one time to please her boyfriend... Even though she already knew she wouldn't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 05:08 AM

Your less willing to do things for later partners because your later partners are less hot and therefore you aren't as desperate to please them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 05:01 AM
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There is no mature understanding. She didn't like it then. She doesn't like it now. She's willing to do what she doesn't like with one of the guys. She's unwilling to do what she doesn't like for another guy. It's simple. One guy she loves. The other guy she loves less. She's less willing to make sacrifices for the guy she loves less. If this is what how she wants to play her cards - fine. But she needs to accept that most men don't like being a second pick you settle for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:04 AM
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If she's doing something only because her partner asked then she already knows. A dick doesn't just end up in an ass accidentally and then someone says "wrong hole I don't like that".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:01 AM
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She never enjoyed doing it. So she can never enjoy doing it with everyone. Or she can own up to the fact that some men aren't worth making sacrifices for. Why is this so hard for women to admit? I openly tell women that they're older and less attractive, therefore they get less money from me. It's a simple straightforward understanding. Why won't women admit this? Because they obviously want to virtue signal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 03:34 AM
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Most of the sentiment isn't that a woman should do it or that she's obligated to do it. The sentiment is that if she doesn't volunteer to do it or reluctantly does it, then you're being given worse treatment. And that this is a reflection of her being genuinely less attracted to you because she's less willing to make a sacrifice for you that she will do for others. Men just want women to admit that they're settling for them and don't love them as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 03:21 AM
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So, what would a society that prioritizes men look like? Trade education is funded in public schools instead of defunded. Men are taught by men because men understand young men better. Boys aren't put on Ritalin or diagnosed with ADHD for not "sitting pretty and calm in chairs". Prostitution is legalized. Strength requirements for jobs are legally allowed to discriminate against weaker women. Legalize paper abortions. Mandate paternity tests for 100% of births. Charge women with the same jail se…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:16 PM
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This assumes that average men still have an incentive to clean toilets, fix pipes, build homes, move heavy shit, fix shit blockades in sewers, etc. Most women think that a genie lives in their toilet and magically makes their shit go away. The net result of most men not getting any is this. It doesn't cost a lot to play xbox at home and live on "fuck it" monk mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 08:10 PM
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