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Doing all that you describe is the female equivalent of a mid life crisis. Where as men go out and buy the Harley or sports car to relive their youth, women tend to drastically change up their appearance and try and act like a 20yr old again, often in the vain hope they can recapture their youth. Obviously this fails. This change in outward appearance often is linked with lots of sexual encounters, throwing themselves at random men in order to fool themselves into believing they are desired. Wha…
/r/Divorce_Men14/01/24 06:48 AM
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/r/Divorce_Men13/01/24 04:30 PM
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Better believe!!! If she doesn’t want to be touched during pregnancy then you are looking at at least a year without sex.
/r/Divorce_Men13/01/24 04:25 PM
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Dead bedroom is a very common thing, so much so it’s practically a meme.they call it the bait and switch, she f’s you six ways from Sunday during your dating and engagement then as soon as the ring is on it slowly dies off until you’re left with blue balls and wondering if you’re going to be sexless for the rest of your life. Typically this happens after the kids are born so she has you by the financial balls. You either leave and get divorce raped or you stick it out hoping it will get better…b…
/r/Divorce_Men11/01/24 08:31 PM
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If you aren’t one of the 10% chads, most women on OLD are just looking for a beta provider they can fleece.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/01/24 12:45 PM
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Yet another emotionally damaged woman looking for someone to help her out. No thx. You keep your trauma away from me, I prefer a nice quiet life, stress free. All you offer is a used up body and endless drama that I don’t need. Hard pass.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/01/24 06:57 AM
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Lost $50k of my 401k and about $10k in lawyers fees. Also have to pay around $1500 per month in child support. So by the end of my CS obligation it will have cost me around $250000.
/r/Divorce_Men09/01/24 02:24 PM
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Park in them and if challenged simply respond “why are you assuming my gender?”
/r/MensRights06/01/24 12:23 AM
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It’s ok to want that ideal family unit and it can work as long as you KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN for warning signs and do not allow yourself to fall in too quickly. There’s nothing wrong with a long courtship and really vetting your future partner. As with all relationships…trust but verify!!!!
/r/Divorce_Men03/01/24 05:49 PM
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….is undefeated 🤣
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/24 09:06 AM
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Forehead big enough to land a 747 on, she’s got no room to criticise others.
/r/MensRights02/01/24 07:20 AM
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“I dont chase chad types…” goes on to describe chad to a T as her ideal type. As the late, great Mr Samuels would say “you can’t make this shit up!”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/24 08:23 AM
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I have a picture of a ball and chain…very appropriate. The name simply says “witch”.
/r/Divorce_Men31/12/23 10:43 PM
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Well done. Stand strong and do what’s right for you no matter the manipulation.
/r/Divorce_Men31/12/23 04:51 PM
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Then….”You’re always working, you never have time for me and I need attention, chad gave me that attention which is why I cheated. It’s your fault!”
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/23 06:44 PM
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This is perfectly true. You can only bang your head against the wall for so long before you become numb. Happened to me. Her behaviour never changed despite promises to do so on many occasions so I checked out and concentrated on the kids, work and my sport.
/r/Divorce_Men18/12/23 06:52 AM
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File first so you are driving the divorce vehicle, not her. It’s always better to be proactive than reactive in divorce.
/r/Divorce_Men17/12/23 09:38 PM
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I like OF. Not for the content, but for the fact that it points out to young men who they should avoid.
/r/MensRights16/12/23 04:46 AM
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She cannot handle being in the wrong or not having the final word. I know a few women like this and they are all lonely and bitter as everyone has deserted them due to their toxic nature but they cannot see that it is them that is the toxic person. The blindness is exquisite. Eventually. Once she has pushed away everyone, she “might” have a moment of clarity but honestly I doubt it’s even in her DNA.
/r/Divorce_Men15/12/23 09:41 PM
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They thrive on drama and attention, when you grey rock them and deny both it makes them crazy. It’s often said that indifference is the opposite of love. That is so true and men’s most powerful weapon.
/r/Divorce_Men15/12/23 05:09 PM
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Which is why I mentioned the surrogate. You can still have kids, even your biological ones, without having a wife involved who can take them away from you.
/r/MensRights15/12/23 05:05 PM
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That is indeed wise. A good general always fights the battle when they are ready, not when the enemy is.
/r/Divorce_Men15/12/23 05:58 AM
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100% agree. My own exw cheated and whilst we have an amicable relationship now for the kids, I will NOT engage in any kind of conversation with her unless it directly relates to my kids. As soon as they are adults I’m going to block and ghost her forever. I have zero desire to be her “friend”, she lost that right when she disrespected me in such an egregious manner. I know it deeply annoys her that post divorce I’m doing really well and her life is trash. The best revenge you can get on a cheati…
/r/Divorce_Men15/12/23 05:56 AM
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Don’t get married. Smart men learn from their mistakes but wise men learn from the mistakes of others. There’s no need to have a wife and be subjected to all the legal bullshit of modern society, risk having your kids taken away from you or having a petulant partner who demands you provide. You can get a surrogate to birth your children and not have a women involved at all. Personally if I was in your position, at the start of that journey, I’d go down this route instead.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 12:47 PM
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The reason why divorce is expensive is because it’s worth it to get your freedom back. Congrats.
/r/Divorce_Men14/12/23 08:36 AM
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Often there is no explanation for a person cheating other than “I did because I could and wanted to”. You don’t need an explanation from her. Yes it might bring some closure but honestly at this stage do you really expect her to tell you the truth? She lied and lied and lied again to your face but now you’re going to trust her word? Just move forward and leave her in your rear view mirror. Put that chapter of your life behind you and concentrate on building a future that you enjoy and you excel …
/r/Divorce_Men13/12/23 10:35 AM
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Definitely not. What happens if she gets pregnant? Do not think for a second that women won’t do such a thing to try and rope you back in. Even if you avoid getting back together with her, you could now be tied to her for the next 20yrs!!! Sleeping with an ex is when drunk is INCREDIBLY dumb!!!!
/r/Divorce_Men13/12/23 05:43 AM
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No. Never take back a cheater. All you would be doing is showing her that she can pull shit and you will cave. She needs to understand that actions have consequences and that you are nobody’s 2nd choice. She made her decision and needs to own it. Tell her you are willing to be a good coparent but you no longer trust her and that a relationship is off the table. She needs to get that into her head and move on for her own sake, the kids sake and yours.
/r/Divorce_Men12/12/23 10:41 PM
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There are uk laws around revenge porn, ie sharing sexual material without consent, but it seems that it only applies to men….what a surprise.!!!!
/r/MensRights11/12/23 03:27 PM
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That’s the key, act dumb and compliant so she thinks she has you where she wants you, all the while you plot your exit. When you do drop the papers she will be caught completely off guard. Also when people feel over confident they slip up, so if she is looking for that other branch to swing to she might just slip up and reveal her cheating, all which is additional ammunition for you.
/r/Divorce_Men09/12/23 07:32 AM
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Well if she earns well and you’re jobless, she stands to lose a lot. In this instance I’d go after everything you can because if the shoe was on the other foot she’d have no hesitation in taking you to the cleaners.
/r/Divorce_Men08/12/23 04:59 PM
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I would describe mine as semi amicable. We agreed on most things and although she cheated I didn’t throw it in her face, rather I used as my excuse to get out. She did try to take way more than she was entitled to so that got a bit spicy over money but in the end it was settled to a figure I could live with. I avoid her as much as possible and we only communicate when required about the kids as I have zero interest in being her friend. She wanted to keep me in her orbit but I made it abundantly …
/r/Divorce_Men08/12/23 04:55 PM
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At least you not attempting to “solve all my problems with pussy” anymore, honestly that sounds like the perfect recipe for disaster. Use this time wisely and to think with clarity, decide what you want your life to be, set goals and move towards them. Only then will you be in the right headspace to consider a relationship, but don’t get married.
/r/Divorce_Men08/12/23 06:29 AM
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Always move forward, never backwards. After time it’s ok to let go of the anger and hate and maybe forgive, but NEVER forget. As has been said before here, past behaviour predicts future actions. If they cheated on you in the past then it’s highly likely that they will do so again. This is why you should never take back a cheater.
/r/Divorce_Men08/12/23 06:25 AM
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Best of luck and do check back in with the sub with your progress 👍
/r/Divorce_Men07/12/23 08:25 PM
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In the uk she will have to apply for an emergency assistance order to force you to pay and likely won’t be given it as the kids do have somewhere safe to stay (with you). Unless she can prove you are an unfit parent then she cannot force you to pay her rent. What I would suggest is that you plot out the kids expenses and pay that before a legal amount is set, so at least in the eyes of the court you are providing. There is a calculator on the gov website that will show you how much you must pay.…
/r/Divorce_Men07/12/23 04:15 PM
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Soon to be ex
/r/Divorce_Men07/12/23 03:19 PM
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If you can, file first and drive the process. If you know your partner is thinking about divorce (ie you’ve seen the messages to her AP or friends) then get in first. Take the driving seat and push. It’s normal the husband on the back foot, so try and keep on the attack if possible. Dont take her speed limit on the process, actively drive it forward and show her you mean business. For example, if the house has to be sold, immediately arrange a cleaner and multiple valuations. Show her by your ac…
/r/Divorce_Men07/12/23 07:27 AM
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Like most here I love my kids dearly but wish I could have had them outside of a marriage.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 06:16 PM
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Because they reconnected with old bfs and started an affair
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 02:04 PM
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Add to this the social media pressure for things like open marriages and it’s a recipe for disaster. This is why I tell all my male friends not to get married. You can be the perfect husband and father, do everything required and be an honest and loving partner and it can all be ripped away from you because she let a feminist harpie into her head to spread poison.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 01:50 PM
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Simple answer : NO, ITS NOT WORTH IT. Even if you don’t get cheated on and the marriage is bearable, it’s still shit. By all means have a loving, committed relationship with children, but there is no benefit to inviting the government into your relationship to fuck you over when she decides to leave. There is literally no upside of any kind. Don’t do it. Read the many stories here…a smart man learns from his mistakes, a wise one learns from the mistakes of others.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 09:28 AM
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Safeguard your two kids. Any woman who wants to travel to sleep with random guys probably wouldn’t think twice about putting them in a dangerous situation to get some D. You need to divorce this witch asap and file for full custody. Plan your exit, gather as much damaging evidence as possible and launch her cheating, useless and shameful ass to the streets where she belongs.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 09:26 AM
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She’s spiralling down and taking you with her. It could be post partum depression or just plain apathy and laziness. To me it sounds very much like the second. She’s blaming you for all her ills now wants to not work and her petulant nature when you say no speaks volumes. She needs a kick up the backside, to put in her big girl pants and think of other before herself. I’d give her one more chance. Lay down your position and state you ARE willing to walk away if things do not improve. State she m…
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/23 12:29 PM
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This is the answer. She wants to feel you out to see if you’ll simp for her and eventually take her back. It’s a trap….RUN!!!!
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/23 11:31 AM
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She’s looking for a beta provider after being ran through by all those other dudes. We’ve seen this story play out a thousand times before and it NEVER ends well for the beta guy. She will marry up, usually punch out a couple of kids (they may or may not be his) and then get bored and want to return to the streets. Eventually she will cheat, divorce him and bleed all his cash in alimony and child support before moving on to another victim. Please for the love of whomever you call god, DO NOT STA…
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/23 07:13 AM
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We all know that misogyny means anything that they either don’t like or don’t agree with.
/r/MensRights04/12/23 02:37 PM
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Always strong and independent until the rent comes due. I foresee a lot of girls returning to “traditional” roles, except for one problem…men now know it’s a facade, put on purely to grift our resources. The ship of men willing to pay a woman’s way through has sailed, that time is over! They better get used to finally carrying their own weight in life. It’s certainly going to be a very rude shock for most of them.
/r/MensRights04/12/23 12:49 PM
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Probably allowed to make a claim against the dead man’s estate for that “child support”. Gotta get access to his green somehow !!!!
/r/MensRights02/12/23 07:50 AM
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Every man gets married thinking his wife will love and respect him forever, then they get slapped with reality and a divorce later on. A smart man learn from his mistakes, a wise one learns from the mistakes of others. Listen to the other men here….don’t get married, it’s a massive mistake for men with little to no upside and huge financial and personal ramifications. There is no reason for men to get married nowadays.
/r/Divorce_Men01/12/23 10:52 PM
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Solid points. I have also experienced the “I’m not happy so I want you to be miserable too” thing with women. Just like you don’t share your financial status with them, you also don’t share your personal success or again, it gets used against you.
/r/MensRights30/11/23 06:00 AM
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Not even that close. And I quote “you must have done something wrong”. Female group preference is strong. Needless to say I have mostly cut her out of my life. I do not need someone in it who would and did betray me so easily. To this day I don’t think she see’s she was wrong. Oh and my mum and dad are divorced too…and guess what, she also cheated. I suspect a lot of her thinking was around justifying her own poor behaviour.
/r/Divorce_Men29/11/23 08:54 PM
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My own mother took my ex’s side , even after I showed her evidence that she cheated. If your mother cannot be trusted to stand by you…what hope anyone else will. The only person who truly had my back was my best mate. Bros before hoes, it’s truer than you know.
/r/Divorce_Men29/11/23 05:18 PM
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Only expose your inner thoughts and fears to your bros who will support you. Expose them to your girl and one of two things will happen, she will either lose attraction for you (as she now sees you as weak) or she will use those fears against you. Anytime you fight, she will drag that shit back up and taunt you with it. It’s lose/lose situation so DONT DO IT!!!!
/r/MensRights29/11/23 11:09 AM
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It’s a trap
/r/Divorce_Men26/11/23 09:12 PM
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I went to an all boys school and found it very good. Obviously I have nothing to compare it against having never gone to a mixed school, however I have had this conversation with people who have. They said they found single sex education less of a distraction. When mixed the boys play up to the girls and the girls flirt. Removing that from the equation can only be helpful for both. There’s plenty of time to mix together after education is done. Also I think boys would benefit greatly as they can…
/r/MensRights25/11/23 04:14 PM
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As would every divorced man. I love my kids with a passion but wish they’d never come from their mother but by any other route.
/r/Divorce_Men25/11/23 10:00 AM
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You don’t need a reason as long as both parties agree. Talk to a lawyer. I think you both can walk away with what you brought into this marriage with no repercussions, although do take professional advice.
/r/Divorce_Men22/11/23 08:28 AM
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He’s a bit of a mad lad for sure but I think Argentina needs to try something radically different as it’s obvious that the status quo is not, and hasn’t, worked for 40yrs. Getting rid of any woke would be a huge win for the country, I hate to think of the amount of money wasted on pointless nonsense, ministry for women being a huge one.
/r/MensRights22/11/23 08:23 AM
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Which is why I have a few hobbies.
/r/MensRights20/11/23 06:57 PM
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She tried and failed.
/r/Divorce_Men20/11/23 06:57 PM
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I found that once I had shed myself of my financial parasite I had a lot more money to play with even after the Child Support. As such I managed to rebuild my lost pension fund in short order. Once free I also could manoeuvre in my career more, allowing me to triple my salary. From a pure financial perspective I’m way better off without a wife than I ever was with one. Her demanding a divorce was the best thing for me, but at the time I couldn’t imagine that it would be this way. My exw also can…
/r/Divorce_Men19/11/23 09:30 PM
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Most men don’t find wives on the internet. The 80/20 rule is very much a tinder thing. Yes some of that hold true in the real world but actually meeting in person and having common interests is still the best way to find a partner. This is why having hobbies and interests is so important, it introduces you to a social circle you wouldn’t normally find, and those that you do meet will naturally have a common interest. Internet dating is pure cancer…
/r/MensRights19/11/23 07:50 PM
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The wall is undefeated, as she will soon find out.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/23 05:54 AM
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You have to play the long game, tough as it may be to remain calm. At this stage she has already detached herself from the marriage and checked out, so you need to do whatever you can to protect yourself and your child. The idea is to gather evidence, secure finances and documents, find out your legal position and start the divorce proceedings…all whilst keeping her in the dark. Only when YOU are fully ready do you need to pull the trigger on her. Have a plan in place to out her to all friends a…
/r/Divorce_Men14/11/23 10:15 PM
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Park in it and when challenged just feign indignation claiming “did you just assume my gender?”
/r/MensRights13/11/23 10:06 PM
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I too would love to marry my longtime GF as she is genuinely a good person whom I love. However we are miles apart in our financial situations. I earn 6x what she does and I have a lot of investments and pension, whereas she has very little. I have no option for a prenup in my country so it’s just far too dangerous for me to consider marriage again until such a time as the law offers me protection.
/r/Divorce_Men13/11/23 11:13 AM
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Be thankful that she showed you her true personality and that it allows you not to waste another second on such a horrible person.
/r/Divorce_Men13/11/23 06:47 AM
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Assuming that you are already divorced and not paying any alimony then I’d say she’s shit out of luck on a settlement deal. CS might be modified but it’s based on your income not hers, again assuming she has majority custody. You better lawyer up again and find out the actual situation you could be faced with. If you know she’s going to fiddle disability with doing cash job and stick you with a higher bill, personally I’d grass her up to the IRS and let them investigate. I hate people who do tha…
/r/Divorce_Men12/11/23 07:40 PM
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The article doesn’t have a picture but what’s the betting that she’s a complete heifer that no man would rightfully touch with a 10ft barge pole? A bit like that other chick a few years back who looked like a male rugby prop and claimed she was raped by 5 different men.
/r/MensRights12/11/23 07:33 PM
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If feminists killed all men, who’d do the hard work and pay for everything? That’s what they really mean by kill all men, remove men from any position of authority and power, make men subservient to women yet still do all the traditional things they expect from us.
/r/MensRights12/11/23 07:30 PM
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SSM and Coach Greg Adam’s are both fairly equal handed and hand out fairly unbiased truth bombs, not holding back on men where warranted.
/r/Divorce_Men12/11/23 04:36 PM
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Keep the title of his car in your name. If she damages, destroys or sells it out of spite then you can then legally sue her for damages. If it’s in your son’s name then there’s no repercussions.
/r/Divorce_Men12/11/23 02:47 PM
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Develop a “gambling” habit that allows you to move the money elsewhere as cash. Get it to a trusted relative like your father to hold for you. If you “spend it in a casino” on your card then immediately redeem as cash they cannot trace it. Obviously this is not legal but it’s been used before to move cash out of an ex’s reach. Also I’d offer a greater settlement for no alimony (if that’s a thing in your state). With her spending habits it’s clear any of the savings she gets will be blown through…
/r/Divorce_Men11/11/23 12:56 PM
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This is modern women to a T. They demand equality, to be independent of men, to not be held to their traditional roles in society..yet also, in the same breath, demand that men act in a traditional manner, paying for everything, acting as protector and provider and being willing to lay down his life for her should the situation warrant it. Fuck that shit girls. You’re on your own, you wanted it, you got it…fight your own battles. I for one won’t do shit for you unless it’s in my own best interes…
/r/MensRights08/11/23 07:56 PM
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The simple answer is…a lot.
/r/Divorce_Men08/11/23 09:01 AM
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I think this is how the majority of people see it. If she’s proposing a “break” or total separation then her going out (or you) to sleep with others IS cheating. It’s deceptive and wrong. If you have actually decided to split and divorce and are just waiting on the legal process then no, not cheating.
/r/Divorce_Men08/11/23 07:06 AM
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Time to buy stocks in wine and cat food.
/r/MensRights07/11/23 09:16 PM
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Because feminism is cancer. Cancer for a society that has to work collectively towards common goals. When one party universally demands special privileges whilst demonising the other half of the equation…every thing breaks down. Women are NOT oppressed except in their heads and by any objective measure are hugely entitled.
/r/MensRights07/11/23 11:44 AM
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The only way to protect yourself is not to play the game. A lot of people pour scorn on the mgtow movement but they have a great deal of men who’ve been through the meat grinder and have determined not to be there again. Sensible people learn from the mistakes and life experiences of others.
/r/MensRights07/11/23 11:13 AM
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Women never let reality get in the way of victimhood.
/r/MensRights07/11/23 08:11 AM
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Me neither. I run a successful business with 30 employees, all men. I refuse to hire a woman. I deliberately keep my business under a certain amount of staff so I’m not subject to diversity laws. I don’t care if that limits my business growth, at least it means that it can’t be taken away by false accusations.
/r/MensRights07/11/23 07:58 AM
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Always record ANYTHING legal. Evidence is your only saviour in most cases.
/r/Divorce_Men07/11/23 06:26 AM
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At the very least go to the nearest truck stop and attach it to the next truck going to the opposite side of the country.
/r/Divorce_Men07/11/23 04:08 AM
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Because it’s not specifically for women, therefore in their eyes …anti-women.
/r/MensRights06/11/23 11:08 AM
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Because it’s not specifically for women, therefore in their eyes anti-women.
/r/MensRights06/11/23 10:51 AM
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It’s basically summed up as “women want to be chased, but only by the top 10% of men…..the rest of you can just please go away or we’ll get you in trouble “. The me 2 has opened men’s eyes to the vindictive nature of women and the risks of being around them at work. Ladies…you reap what you sow.
/r/MensRights06/11/23 10:49 AM
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She belongs to the streets.
/r/Divorce_Men05/11/23 10:40 AM
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For her it’s a good way to acquire wealth, for you a good way to lose everything.
/r/Divorce_Men05/11/23 06:30 AM
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No… there is no choosing the “right one”. One glance at this sub shows that there is no way of predicting what she will eventually become. You can think you have a mythical unicorn and she will turn into the devil. It really is nothing more than pot luck. You can be the best husband, the best father, do everything right by her and she will STILL cheat on you, divorce rape you and alienate your children from you. Honestly the only winning move is not to play. Never get married.
/r/Divorce_Men05/11/23 05:13 AM
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So so much better you can’t believe it. Every aspect of my life has improved since divorce. If you’ve reached the decision to leave, don’t waste anymore of your life and get out asap.
/r/Divorce_Men03/11/23 12:42 PM
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Do it. Especially if it means violating the terms of the protective order. If you are not allowed with x feet if her there’s no way to share the truck.
/r/Divorce_Men02/11/23 03:39 PM
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You have nothing to be ashamed about. You are allowed to have preferences no matter what women say or try to shame you into accepting. It’s natural for men to not want a ran through woman. It raises our concerns about infidelity and false paternity.
/r/MensRights02/11/23 09:55 AM
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No support or financial assistance until a DNA test is performed. If it’s your child then you can arrange for shared custody and support. If not your child then she’s on her own.
/r/MensRights02/11/23 09:33 AM
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Start planning your exit. You do not need to pull the trigger until you are fully ready. Keep everything on the down low so she doesn’t get suspicious and try and gather as much information about her affair as possible. Record everything and set either cameras or a voice activated recording device to protect yourself. Women will make up any amount of lies when they need to and you don’t need to be hauled away from your home by the police on a false accusation. People have successfully moved fund…
/r/Divorce_Men02/11/23 09:31 AM
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Another lazy female looking for a bail out and a free ride through life whilst already having a kid and a heavy social media presence. Avoid at all costs.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/11/23 09:59 AM
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Yes. I regret it immensely. I love my kids that came of it but wish I could have had them another way. A large part of me wishes I had remained single forever. I look at all the money wasted, the opportunities missed the sacrifices I made for zero gratitude and the time wasted on her and have huge regret. If I could have my kids via that other route then I would have taken it. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but ultimately painfully sad. At least I have my life back now, get to spend quality time…
/r/Divorce_Men01/11/23 07:40 AM
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Thank god for social media where men can see women’s true identity, delusional, greedy, self absorbed and narcissistic, over sexualised whores… When even below avg, overweight women with multiple kids believe they “deserve” (god how they love to use that word) a top 1% earner, just shows how much they have departed from reality. At least men now get to see this on full display, can absorb the clownishness and avoid them like the plague. Let them continue to get pumped and dumped by the chads and…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/10/23 02:21 PM
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It’s takes me all of two or three hours a week to keep a tidy home, hoover, and do my clothes. To say housework is hard is a lie. Maybe back in the days before modern labour saving devices were invented it was , but not now. Any woman who claims she is overloaded with housework is a lazy toad and needs to be kicked to the curb. I personally think it’s cheaper to just to get a cleaner for two hours per week than have a modern wife…..far far cheaper.
/r/Divorce_Men29/10/23 12:36 PM
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“If she’s not fucking you she is fucking someone else”. This is certainly the saying that fits your situation. Get out now.
/r/Divorce_Men29/10/23 10:40 AM
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100% sketchy AF. Get some cameras up and get the evidence. Be prepared for a lot of lying, gaslighting and victim blaming from her. Also when you confront her have an independent witness on your side. Even if she is not yet cheating, inviting a fox into the henhouse is just asking for disaster. Give this guy a max of one week to move on, NO NEGOTIATION. For her to invite another man into your home (even if he’s outside) is hugely disrespectful to you and not to be tolerated. If she insists that …
/r/Divorce_Men29/10/23 10:36 AM
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I’m now 50, so I got married a long time back. Back then we had no social media, no mobile phones etc and women had less opportunities to cheat. Yes they still did, after all female nature is female nature, but it was shameful and people feared getting caught. Now it’s just a free for all. I got divorced at 42 after 15yrs and would I do it again knowing what I know now? HELL NO!!! We got married because it was expected and the “right thing to do”. I’m so glad my sons will grow up in a world wher…
/r/Divorce_Men27/10/23 08:18 PM
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Actions…meet consequences. Have a nice time together 🤣
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/10/23 08:11 PM
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If I see a woman in distress I’m walking the other way. It’s just no longer worth the risk to my personal safety. Let them fight their own battles, they are strong and independent after all and everyone knows that a 75lb female has no difficulty in beating up 200lb man…after all Hollywood has told them so. Let them find out on their own.
/r/MensRights25/10/23 07:53 PM
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That film is just chock full of metaphors for the modern world.
/r/MensRights25/10/23 04:48 PM
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Exactly. She’s nothing but a liability for any man. There is literally no upside to dating someone like her. Zero.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/23 07:07 PM
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The very best thing you can do is to STOP Drinking for your child. As for the divorce, own up to your part and try and make it as amicable for everyone involved. Dont sacrifice yourself but just keep it civil and respectful.
/r/Divorce_Men23/10/23 12:44 PM
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Because society enables them to do so.
/r/EverydayMisandry22/10/23 07:08 PM
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Like water off a ducks back. When you don’t actually care what they think of you they have no power over you.
/r/MensRights22/10/23 07:07 PM
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Yes, it’s certainly a thing. I’m probably prime target demographic for these single mother chicks, 6f2, ok looking, fit and in good shape and with a mid 6 figure income…and the number of aggressive, pushy women I’ve come across is pretty amazing. Once they know you are single they will become pretty predatory. I’m no chad, having come out of a bad divorce I have ZERO interest in becoming another woman’s lifestyle plan. I’ve also made sure I’ve had a vasectomy just in case I do make a mistake, wh…
/r/MensRights22/10/23 01:32 PM
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Not have anything to do with single mothers who are approaching the wall (30) and desperate to lock down a provider. This caution should also be applied to any woman approaching 30 who is childless. They quite often will attempt a baby trap as their options dwindle. Don’t be the guy left holding the bag, paying for 18+ yrs for her “dream”.
/r/MensRights21/10/23 09:25 PM
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Men often suffer a huge financial loss during divorce proceedings. The very last thing a man in this situation needs is another woman trying to get her hand in his wallet. At least give yourself some time to recover before you place your head on the block again.
/r/Divorce_Men19/10/23 05:09 PM
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An example of this exact phenomenon https://youtu.be/z9wnJGho50o?si=Wtq3CiEdoLLdph0k
/r/MensRights18/10/23 09:59 AM
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Maybe they actually have some officers who listen to men rather than brush them off. Most men wouldn’t report abuse due to not being taken seriously or laughed at or being told to “man up”. Well done to those police officers for acting professionally and not following the stereotype.
/r/MensRights18/10/23 06:33 AM
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Being in shape is important for your own health but I agree, the standard that you should be ripped, 6 pack etc is unsustainable for your avg man who cannot spend 4-5hrs a day in the gym. I knew a guy who was a male “fitness” model. He had low body fat, was ripped etc…he was the unfittest man I’ve ever met. I once went on a bike ride with him, just 20miles on the flat. By then end he was in bits, could hardly stand. I on the other hand was just an avg guy but I could easily ride 100miles. He was…
/r/MensRights18/10/23 06:27 AM
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She’s a poster child for everything wrong with modern women. Cruel, narcissistic, entitled, overly promiscuous and totally without any shame whatsoever for her actions. She’s a beacon to men for the type of woman to avoid. In a sane world she would be lambasted by society for her behaviour but instead most women empathise with her, which tells you exactly what you need to know about how the avg woman views men.
/r/MensRights18/10/23 06:21 AM
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The only time women show true concern for their men is when his death will have a serious effect on their livelihood or standard of living, ie men die at frontline, women most affected by the war. It’s been this way forever. Men are utilities to women and the state, only loved for what we provide, never for who we are. Once you can no longer provide you are discarded. If you happen to die she will morn the loss of what you did for her and bemoan her new situation…until she finds the next wallet …
/r/MensRights18/10/23 04:14 AM
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Thinking that she would be logical. As soon as she realised I’d moved on as wasn’t her emotional and financial support (after separation) she turned unreasonable. Tried to make “rules” about me seeing other women saying things like it wasn’t right for the kids etc, even though the kids never met any GF. Typical controlling behaviour you see here quite often. She honestly thought I’d just not get over her but she was wrong. All this even though she was the one who cheated and had a BF. The absolu…
/r/Divorce_Men17/10/23 10:40 AM
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I don’t think there’s anything wrong with wanting to commit to a single person in a loving relationship, however the legal system and marriage laws are such that only a fool would consider signing up and letting the government into your relationship. If a man and a woman want to commit for life, they can do so without having a “license” to do so. I honestly can’t see the institution lasting much longer without serious reform of the laws.
/r/MensRights16/10/23 07:45 PM
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Professional grievance monger.
/r/MensRights16/10/23 09:02 AM
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Who wants to deal with modern entitled women no matter how old or how hot?
/r/Divorce_Men16/10/23 07:22 AM
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And this educates young men to avoid female contact on campus. If I was a young man in college I’d be avoiding women like the plague. No due process, no support and no legal representation. You can get kicked out or worse on her word alone. Time to protect yourself and don’t have anything to do with women in college.
/r/MensRights15/10/23 12:36 PM
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You contact a lawyer, they will contact her lawyer and start the discovery process of financials etc. You and your ex negotiate things like alimony and child support through your lawyers until either an agreement is reached or you have to go through the courts. I would urge you to try and keep it out of the courts if at all possible but do not roll over just to make that happen. Once the courts get involved and it gets adversarial it can get expensive really fast and no one wins but the lawyers.…
/r/Divorce_Men15/10/23 08:49 AM
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Yes they were forced into a humiliating public apology.
/r/MensRights15/10/23 04:33 AM
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Uk - Royal Air Force. https://news.sky.com/story/royal-air-force-unlawfully-discriminated-against-white-male-recruits-in-bit-to-boost-diversity-inquiry-finds-12911888
/r/MensRights14/10/23 08:49 PM
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The RAF recently got taken down over the exact same issue. It was ruled illegal and they were forced into a public apology. Seems like some civil servants need to learn the lesson again.
/r/MensRights14/10/23 06:19 PM
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All that proves is that your decision to leave was the right one. She cannot see that staying with her is wrong for both of you and is unwilling to take responsibility for her part in it. This is a narcissistic personality trait and one to be avoided. Move forward and don’t have anymore to do with her.
/r/Divorce_Men14/10/23 07:04 AM
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The equivalent of around $60k factoring in my pension reduction, lawyers fees and having to move house/buy all new things. Was it worth it?…yes because I got the bitch out of my life and I have made that back and more in the space of a few years.
/r/Divorce_Men12/10/23 04:28 PM
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Because women are always given a pass and men are always the bad guy.
/r/MensRights12/10/23 06:35 AM
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Buy a dog. Good company and 1000x more loyal. No nagging, no moodiness, no arguments…..only good times and adventures.
/r/Divorce_Men11/10/23 07:00 AM
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Yes sex education should be taught in schools but not the rainbow nonsense that we see today. Basic education on pregnancy and protection should be compulsory. Boys should be taught to strap up every time, carry their own condoms and ALWAYS use them. Teenage pregnancy is devastating to future life prospects, not just for girls either. Boys are forced into early employment at the cost of higher education which depresses their future potential.
/r/MensRights10/10/23 11:22 AM
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The only good a prenup is for is as a shit test to see how she will react. If she blows up then she’s not marrying material. Any sane person will protect what they worked hard for BEFORE they even met their partner. It’s incredibly unfair to expect a share of assets you had zero part in earning. The fact that a woman can claim on my pension I saved for 10-20yrs before I even met her is crazy. With laws like that it no wonder men are walking away or demand prenups. They’d be crazy to think any ot…
/r/MensRights09/10/23 07:06 PM
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This is the ONLY way to avoid divorce. Avoid marriage and avoid common law cohabitation.
/r/MensRights09/10/23 06:40 PM
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Same old same old. They think the grass is greener and get a shock when reality comes knocking. When she eventually regrets her decision don’t you dare take her back. No man should ever accept being a second choice or bail out option.
/r/Divorce_Men09/10/23 06:32 PM
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She’s an Olympic champion weight lifter…..of forks into her mouth 🤣🤣🤣
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/10/23 03:20 PM
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Be glad you saw her real personality before kids came along. 30 is just around the corner for her and we all know women fear that milestone. Soon enough she’ll crave a stable relationship and a family but it’ll be too late. Right now she wants to “find herself”, which we all know means jumping on the CC as often as possible, pretending she’s 20 again and partying, getting drunk and sleeping around. Reality will come crashing in soon and she’ll probably come crawling back…just remember that NO is…
/r/Divorce_Men09/10/23 09:44 AM
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Only because the UK gov veto’d it saying it was a dangerous precedent and went against hundreds of of years of law including the Magna Carta which is basically the foundation of all modern democratic law, that no one should be deprived of liberty without due and fair process.
/r/MensRights08/10/23 02:44 PM
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They wanted to do something similar in Scotland where rape trials would no longer have a jury, it was a feminist proposal and thankfully struck down. They even wanted guilt determined like title IX, ie no evidence required just whatever the kangaroo court decided.
/r/MensRights08/10/23 01:03 PM
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Me too. My exw had a BA and MA and looked down at me as I went straight from school into the Army. I left after 8yrs in into the grass roots IT sector (showing my age here) and was incredibly successful. Shortly after our divorce I was earning 6x her salary (thank god our settlement was based upon previous earnings). I now live a VERY comfortable lifestyle whilst she and her “superior” education earn peanuts.
/r/MensRights08/10/23 01:01 PM
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Sell it…use the money for a kick ass holiday.
/r/Divorce_Men04/10/23 09:54 PM
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When a woman shows you who she is…believe her. If she chases after bad boys, goes back to abusive ex’s and displays general self destructive tendencies….have NOTHING to do with her, she’ll eventually try and drag you into her drama, even if just to be her emotional tampon. Leave these sort well alone, your life will be far more peaceful as a result.
/r/MensRights04/10/23 10:06 AM
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At least the comments on the story clearly show that most people see the nature of our unfair justice system.
/r/MensRights04/10/23 09:38 AM
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Exactly. My own country doesn’t recognise common law marriage so I could have my GF live with me, however…….after already having gone through the divorce meat grinder I have no desire to ever get into any legal battles over property ever again, so it’ll be separate homes or not at all. Luckily my GF has also been divorced so fully understands my position. We both have “stay over” bags with toiletries and clothes etc that we take to the others house. I made it clear she won’t even have a toothbru…
/r/Divorce_Men03/10/23 04:47 PM
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Piss off thot. Take your low grade thirst traps elsewhere.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/10/23 10:51 AM
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It’s not really about salary. It’s about savings, pensions and investments. You could have been looking after your retirement and she could have been massively irresponsible and not. When you divorce she gets to put her hand in that cookie jar and fund her retirement at the expense of yours. You could find yourself loosing the majority of it and having a retirement in poverty, which is why the Grey divorce is so feared. Having a prenup is prudent financial planning no matter your income level or…
/r/MensRights03/10/23 04:51 AM
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Bang on.
/r/MensRights03/10/23 04:45 AM
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I’m no lawyer but I think you only have to name the other person in the event you are claiming infidelity as the reason for divorce, and not say irreconcilable differences or no fault. Obviously get legal advice on your best course of action. Personally if I was in your shoes I’d burn both of their worlds to ash…expose both of them to the entire world as the scum they are.
/r/Divorce_Men01/10/23 02:52 PM
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He shared the news with his parents who are quite old and one of them let slip by accident and word got back to her. She wanted 50% of the money but understandably the judge said NOPE, his financial liability ended when the divorce was finalised. I don’t know the full fallout but she was furious and did try for a while to get him back but he wasn’t going to fall for that old gag.
/r/Divorce_Men01/10/23 12:31 PM
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It works in reverse too if you’re lucky. Friend of mine got cleaned out in his divorce, almost penniless. He told me he contemplated ending himself many times but couldn’t do that to his kids. 18 months post divorce her won the lottery, the equivalent to $24M… His exw still tried to take half in a lawsuit but the judge threw it out. Sometimes good things happen to those who have had the worst luck up until that point.
/r/Divorce_Men30/09/23 11:57 PM
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The only one to live by is “No wife, happy life!!”
/r/MensRights30/09/23 01:55 PM
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I find that if you don’t pay attention to them, chase after them and just go about your day without giving them a second thought….them they chase after you. Women hate rejection, they’re so used to men running around after them that when a man doesn’t it intrigues them. Obviously you need to take care of yourself but concentrate on yourself first and foremost.
/r/Divorce_Men30/09/23 10:41 AM
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My man. 👌 Congrats.
/r/Divorce_Men29/09/23 09:44 PM
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Women make rules for betas and break rules for alphas. It’s always been so, and will always remain so. The sooner young men understand this dual mating strategy, the better they can navigate female nature, avoid marriage and have a good life.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/09/23 03:26 PM
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No…. And I never will. I won’t put my future in the hands of a woman ever again no matter how much I trust her.
/r/Divorce_Men29/09/23 10:58 AM
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Oh she’s back because she likely blew all the money on trivial stuff. My own tried this same thing, came back demanding I pay for her roof repair because “I used to part own the house therefore I’m responsible for it”. Nope!! I told her to kick rocks. She did contact a lawyer but he took one look at it and also said nope. She then tried begging for a “loan” from me which also got a solid NO response. Turns out she maxed out her credit and couldn’t get any more money for the repairs. I think that…
/r/Divorce_Men28/09/23 07:08 AM
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Selling your happiness and sanity by enabling others is never a good way to live your life. Every day you stay makes it that much harder to leave. After too long your heart will be so hard future relationships might be impossible, so best to get out NOW.
/r/Divorce_Men27/09/23 11:01 AM
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I’m lucky in that my two boys (late teens) want to be around me, however I can fully understand the OPs feelings. When you’ve hammered your head against the wall for so long, eventually it becomes numb. All I would do in your place is move away, fulfil any final financial obligation and go quiet. Write the kids a letter and lay it all out, why you can no longer maintain contact and express that if and when they want a relationship with you as adults they can come and find you. I wouldn’t pull an…
/r/Divorce_Men27/09/23 07:37 AM
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Of course, accountability and responsibility are a woman’s kryptonite. They never will admit to anything being their fault when it’s easier to blame others…you, the state, society, her parents or friends, alcohol…the list is endless as long as the blame (in her mind at least) lands elsewhere.
/r/Divorce_Men27/09/23 05:40 AM
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To which my response would be “ I’m not stopping you from going, nor am I controlling what you do or who you see. What I am doing is controlling what I’m willing to accept in a relationship and this is not it. If you wish to carry on like a single person, then I am out.” I would argue that a person who is willing to stand up for what they believe is more secure in themselves not less. Either way calling you controlling and insecure is just more emotional blackmail right out of the hoebag handboo…
/r/MensRights27/09/23 05:35 AM
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Never accept “girls night out”. If you’re married or in a committed relationship and your girl wants to hit the streets with her single friends, get drunk and be in them clubs…well it’s over!!! She’s not ready for a relationship and thinks she can be single for a night. Call her out on it. We all know exactly how it goes down on these night out, it’s no secret…even most girls will admit it’s just a sausage fest. Only YOU get to decide what you find acceptable in a relationship, and no one needs …
/r/MensRights26/09/23 06:14 PM
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“Fragile male ego” get’s thrown around when a man refuses to accept female entitlement and bullshit. The very moment you disagree with any of her foolishness…naturally you’re insecure and have a fragile ego.
/r/MensRights26/09/23 06:10 PM
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This is a solid idea. If she objects then you counter with her taking options away from her kids future. Let’s see her argue against that.!!!!
/r/Divorce_Men25/09/23 10:06 PM
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Because she checked out of the marriage a long time back. Women tend to file 70-80% of divorces so inevitably they plan their exit well ahead of dropping the D bomb on their husbands. As such they emotionally check out well before the actual filing. Men on the other hand are often more hurt as it’s usually a complete surprise.
/r/Divorce_Men23/09/23 08:21 AM
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Yep. They are trying to destroy him because he’s calling out certain powerful people. If he’s done wrong, present the proof in court and s let due process take its course. This cancelling by media is plainly wrong as he has no innocence before proven guilty. The media has made up its mind and is going after him full force with the backing of the establishment. Luckily for him he has money, so should be ok, however if they can do it to him, a public figure, they wouldn’t even think twice before r…
/r/MensRights21/09/23 07:15 AM
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Oh look another person try to police our language. Go trawl your censorship on the feminist subs and see how far you get.
/r/MensRights21/09/23 07:04 AM
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This is the truth. They love bomb you early in the relationship, promise that marriage will be better then as soon as the ink is dry they cut you off UNLESS you pander to their every whim. The problem that most men fall into is that as soon as you give in, they lose respect for you and you’re done. This is why women chase the bad boys, they don’t give a fuck what women think and will flatly refuse to bend to her will. The very worst thing you can do is simp. Show her you have options and that if…
/r/Divorce_Men21/09/23 07:00 AM
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You were foolish and had weak willpower to say no to her. Learn from this mistake. It’s time to move on before you have any real binding limitations (ie kids and lots of assets). At least you can get out with minor damage. Do not just jump right back into dating, take some time and do the work to understand WHY you went against your better judgement…you need to understand this otherwise you will be doomed to repeat the mistake.
/r/Divorce_Men21/09/23 06:44 AM
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Nope. I cracked a glass of 15yr bourbon, sparked a cigar then made myself a steak dinner. I celebrated it on my own and then booked a solo holiday.
/r/Divorce_Men20/09/23 04:34 PM
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Yep it’s that “wtf happens now” feeling. Everything solid turns to ash. However you soon find your purpose and place again and are much better out than in.
/r/Divorce_Men18/09/23 07:45 AM
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Maybe…but smart men don’t get married.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/09/23 07:38 AM
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Well done you. Keep your eyes on the prize and maintain a distance from her. Your best “revenge” will be to lead a successful life whilst hers fails even more.
/r/MensRights17/09/23 12:24 PM
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From your post I assume you both live at home still? It’s rather shameful that a 27yr old is stil not independent, however with her attitude I can see why, she’s enabled and that maintains her entitled attitude. I recommend you get your ass out of there asap, find your own place or get a room share with other guys and get some distance from her. Trust me, nothing good comes from living with a raging feminist.
/r/MensRights17/09/23 11:56 AM
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No because most Reddit subs are a dumpster fire and a feminist echo chamber. They only allow what they want to hear, not the truth. The thing is …the truth always comes for them eventually but they are like ostriches, they bury their heads in the sand until it’s too late. Most young men nowadays are fully aware just how destructive marriage is to their futures and are avoiding it altogether, just look at the marriage rates…they’re plummeting and women are panicking because they know their gravy …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/09/23 08:21 AM
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Yet another example of a woman chasing a career, riding the CC until the egg box is nearly empty…then demanding a high value man settle down with her. Her hypergamy won’t let he date a guy on her level, no she demands a 1%er. Most guys in their 40s who are rich, successful, good looking and single fully understand female nature and the risks involved in marriage so will NEVER commit because they don’t have to. No amount of her stamping her feet will make them change, it’s tantamount to self dest…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/09/23 12:33 PM
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No one. I won’t marry again under any circumstance. No matter how good or well intentioned she may be, no matter how much of an honest woman and how much she loves me….she still has the legal options to destroy my life and put me in the poor house. Until that is no longer an option I wouldn’t even marry the Virgin Mary.
/r/Divorce_Men14/09/23 06:24 PM
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You can’t make her happy by sacrificing yourself or your happiness. File and then “try” and rally her family and friends to support her. It may not be possible but you will take the high ground by trying.
/r/Divorce_Men13/09/23 10:04 AM
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I’d call this a win. If she earns more, then you get alimony and CS. You’re established as the resident parent so reversing that is unlikely, especially if your kids want to stay with you. Just make sure you document exactly how much time they spend with her, how much she currently contributes to the upkeep of the kids etc. you need proof that she’s “abandoned” you all, and the extent of her removal from the family home. Your lawyer should have solid advice on the best course of action.
/r/Divorce_Men13/09/23 10:02 AM
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There’s blackmail and there’s LEGAL blackmail via your lawyer. If she values her reputation and career then she might not be unreasonable. Letting her employer know she is breaking the rules is not illegal nor is warning her of the consequences of her actions.
/r/MensRights13/09/23 09:55 AM
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This is the way. If you get her fired from her job before securing an exit, it will probably mean more money in support from your pocket.
/r/MensRights13/09/23 09:53 AM
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Luckily for you there are no kids and probably very little assets so you can get an easy clean break. Time to end it and move on.
/r/Divorce_Men13/09/23 09:31 AM
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As I said in my previous reply, get evidence of her abuse and take it to the police. File a restraining order and protect your children.
/r/Divorce_Men13/09/23 07:14 AM
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No you need to protect your children.
/r/Divorce_Men13/09/23 07:12 AM
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Lawyer up. Camera up and record EVERYTHING. She might pull the DV stunt on you or turn that aggression against the kids.
/r/Divorce_Men13/09/23 07:12 AM
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Agree with others, she’s trying to drag you back into a relationship by dangling sex in your face. Do not fall for it, it will bring nothing but pain and ruin.
/r/Divorce_Men12/09/23 09:02 AM
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And I guarantee that when your sister falls on hard times she will demand the assistance of her useless and toxic brother. Just remember that NO is a complete sentence and that you don’t have to justify your actions to her or anyone.
/r/MensRights11/09/23 08:55 PM
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Like all the others, they only find common sense AFTER spitting out other mens crotch goblins. No man should ever date a single mother…period. You will never be a priority and you will be expected to pay for EVERYTHING.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/09/23 04:50 PM
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Not at all. When you hold the attitude that you’re never gonna get married (I’m divorced so one bite at the poisoned apple was all I could stand) then her past doesn’t really matter. If she cheats and walks away, yes it might hurt a bit but there won’t be any long term consequences. Thus her past doesn’t really bother me. Now if I was looking for a wife, yes it’s hugely important, as her past behaviour is a strong indicator for future outcomes.
/r/MensRights11/09/23 06:46 AM
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Never. Every day I thank god that she’s out of my life.
/r/Divorce_Men11/09/23 06:42 AM
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Honestly, who didn’t see this coming a mile off?
/r/AntiFeminists10/09/23 01:59 PM
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The only issues I can see is that you might open yourself up to conscription and with Ukraine being in bed with the US so much they might consider enforcing US court rulings against you such as seizure of assets and even removal of the children or even deportation. You need to know the legal angles very clearly here. Last thing you need is to be caught out after you’ve just left your entire support system.
/r/Divorce_Men10/09/23 08:29 AM
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When they say that they’ve “lost themselves” it usually means that the method of “finding herself” is by jumping onto as many dicks as possible. It always amazes me that the preferred method to heal from a broken marriage is to sleep about.
/r/Divorce_Men09/09/23 02:32 PM
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First off demand a doctor performed pregnancy test, women sell positive pregnancy tests online. It’s not beyond reason that she could be faking the pregnancy to keep you around and will claim a miscarriage later. If she is pregnant and carry’s to term, immediate DNA test before signing anything. I’d also have an ironclad parental rights and custody agreement set out prior to birth IF it is your child. Do not leave it until after the child is born as she will then hold all the cards and can withh…
/r/Divorce_Men08/09/23 08:54 AM
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Terrible advice. By all means negotiate an equitable deal but you should never just roll over and accept unreasonable demands. If she demands everything you could end up on the street if you don’t fight hard. Men should never just capitulate, they have a right to a just share of what they worked hard for.
/r/Divorce_Men08/09/23 08:05 AM
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Mine was relatively painless, although relative to others it would seem so. The emotional pain and turmoil was very hard, however once I’d made the choice to get out (she cheated) the rest of the divorce was easy enough but took ages to complete (Covid court delays). I ended up with 50/50 lost 1/4 of my 401k, she had to buy me out of the house and $1200 per month in child support. The deal was struck outside of the family court system (ie not imposed) as she didn’t fight me too hard due to guilt…
/r/Divorce_Men08/09/23 07:52 AM
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This is just an extension of the modern trend to celebrate degenerate behaviour. Same old same old. She is unlikely to learn a harsh lesson, as would unfamous women, as there will always be a string of men willing to date her. Normal women are learning that their options seriously decline after 30 as evidenced by the increasing amount of “where have all the good men gone” posts and videos.
/r/Divorce_Men07/09/23 09:16 PM
4

Women like dirt bag thugs and bad boys, it’s always been that way because he gives her the drama she craves, treats her like shit and is toxic as f*ck…but she’s down for that. This guy won’t stick around to help with the kids, they are just an obstacle to him. He’s only there for the easy sex and the money she spends on him. Yes it’s annoying as all hell but unless he represents a danger to your kids (and maybe you should hire a PI to background him) then there’s not much you can do about it. If…
/r/Divorce_Men07/09/23 12:35 PM
3

Almost every women I’ve know who has been divorced and collected a large payout from her husband went on to squander it. Safe to say you’ll probably be better off later in life than she will.
/r/Divorce_Men07/09/23 10:58 AM
1

Mine wasn’t too bad. She bought me out of the house and no alimony, only child support. We negotiated outside of the courts (although I did have to fight hard to curb her demands which were excessive). Ultimately we came out with a figure that I could live with and she got enough, not what she wanted but enough. This was rubber stamped by our divorce judge and at least I’m kept out of the child support system. As long as I pay on time she seems to be happy with the arrangement and it’s only slig…
/r/Divorce_Men07/09/23 10:12 AM
9

If a person treats sex as transactional then the probability of them cheating is higher as they won’t see cheating as anything other than just another transaction and not something that should cause a breakup. Just be warned. I like the term “trust but verify” and feel it fits well for modern relationships, it’s ok to think the best of her but always be on the lookout for the signs…phone guarding, excessive “girls nights out”, always late at work etc.
/r/Divorce_Men06/09/23 08:47 PM
14

These sort of programs actually have the opposite effect. It’s kinda like the Streisand effect, it actually makes boys realise the inequality of modern society and they then hunt out information online to explain their feelings of alienation. Most find redpill content that explains why the world is the way it is and decide they don’t want anything to do with women. They won’t abuse or harm women, they just want to be left alone. However women cannot stand the idea of men not running around after…
/r/AntiFeminists06/09/23 06:22 AM
2

No point in asking here…get him to ask a lawyer. You don’t mention which country is involved ie where they got “married”, length of the marriage, what state they live in. Too many variables to get even a halfway decent answer. Simplest answer is to get a full, legal answer from a lawyer.
/r/Divorce_Men05/09/23 10:56 AM
8

Much much better. Being with someone who actually loves you and wants to be intimate is fantastic. Nothing is as lonely as having a partner who you still love and who shows you nothing but indifference.
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/23 04:53 PM
4

As others have said you need to start to protect yourself. If she wants you out and you refuse (as is proper legal advice to not leave) then next will come the false accusations and a visit from the law, possibly to throw you in jail and deny you access to your house. This is pretty much standard practice nowadays, so I encourage you to get cameras (saving to the cloud) and a voice activated camera or other recording device to wear. As it’s your property you do NOT need her consent to record (bu…
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/23 12:54 AM
1

I feel the same however we share custody so I have to be political in my use of language. Once the child support comes to an end I will tell her exactly how I feel if the occasion arrives but in all honesty I will probably just block her and ghost, having no reason to ever speak to her again.
/r/Divorce_Men03/09/23 01:57 PM
7

I didn’t get a physical altercation (mores the pity) but I did find out AP was married and outed him to his wife. I sent her all the screen shots, timelines and hotel bills. Never heard back about what happened but my exw went very quiet for a few days so more than likely she got a blast from his wife.
/r/Divorce_Men02/09/23 09:36 PM
6

And still have room to spare 😂
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/23 09:30 PM
17

Because if he’s a 6ft+ chad those “demands” go right out the window and he gets to ride for free. However 6-figure poindexter must prove he has bank to even get the most basic starfish sex maybe once every 2 months if he’s lucky and bought her enough presents.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/23 04:40 PM
82

Or better yet, Kevin can take them on nice vacations whilst her ass stays at home and she can pay entirely for any vacation she takes with them.
/r/MensRights02/09/23 10:34 AM
2

Sadly yes, however the trend is thankfully that it’s happening less and less.
/r/Divorce_Men02/09/23 01:25 AM
5

Sorry you are going through this but let this man’s story be a lesson to all single men never to get married. It’s a one sided deal that will see you on the streets, poor, alienated from your kids and financially beholden to an ungrateful exw. It’s modern day slavery at its core. You should never sign a contract where the other party is rewarded for breaking the contract, because that’s what marriage is, a contract where she benefits and you always lose.
/r/Divorce_Men02/09/23 12:19 AM
17

“More than ready” reads as current tense, ie she’s still a drug addict and wants you to either fund her habit or her rehab.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/09/23 09:41 PM
2

Tell her no. Boundaries are important.I’m currently in the USA on holiday with my kids and my exw keeps asking for pictures of the boys. So far I have refused to provide any. My time with my kids is my time and I refuse to dance to her tune. I don’t make such demand if her when she has the kids…and these are no babies, they’re 15 and 17. Sometimes you just have to ignore the requests so she learns how separate parental time works.
/r/Divorce_Men31/08/23 09:53 PM
18

My exw briefly brought up the subject once the end of child support hove into view but dropped the subject after I broke out laughing and said, and I quote, “not if you were the last woman on earth!!!”
/r/Divorce_Men30/08/23 09:56 PM
16

Like throwing a hotdog down a hallway.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/23 03:49 PM
1

We aren’t talking about you specifically. The fact that you turned down alimony doesn’t negate the fact that you COULD have taken it. Legally you could have forced your ex into financial servitude and that is the point..:alimony shouldn’t be a thing at all, or at the very least a severely time limited option and NEVER for life.
/r/Divorce_Men29/08/23 08:50 PM
1

First thing to do is cut her off completely from ALL assistance except what is court mandated. Any extra she asks for the answer is NO. No hook ups ever, no matter what she sends you. In fact block her on every medium except phone and a parenting app which doesn’t allow deleting messages (msging app for coordinating child, phone only for emergencies related to the child). Say clearly to her you will only talk to her about your son and NOTHING more. If needs be have your lawyer draft a letter to …
/r/Divorce_Men29/08/23 11:11 AM
2

I have to say if I was looking down the barrel of lifetime alimony to an ungrateful cunt, I’d probably be investigating my options to skip the country and start a new life elsewhere. Alimony is just slavery by another name and encourages women to be lazy, entitled brats. Fuck that shit!!
/r/Divorce_Men29/08/23 11:02 AM
9

Problem is he did it at a feminist spotlight event where they’re ready and waiting for a man to slip up and get a scalp for the “sisterhood”!!!
/r/MensRights27/08/23 04:09 PM
10

The club no one wants to join but the one which gives us strength….welcome brother 😎
/r/Divorce_Men27/08/23 04:07 PM
36

Never. You will always be the enemy, to blame for every ill in her life, expected to pay for everything despite her belief in “equality”….why subject yourself to this when other options are abundant???
/r/MensRights27/08/23 03:42 PM
20

Oh I don’t know…it could be twisted fun to string them along a bit and watch them dance around the subject, then just as she thinks she’s reeled in a sucker…you ghost and block.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/08/23 03:38 PM
2

Stupid is as stupid does..: the general rule when talking to feminists.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/08/23 09:45 PM
2

True, because I’m in one. However we won’t live together and marriage is completely off the table.
/r/Divorce_Men25/08/23 01:45 AM
3

13 yrs. Looking back now with some reflection, I should have got out a lot earlier. At least my kids were almost teens and took it totally in their stride. I have two late teen boys now who are both very anti marriage after seeing what I went through. I couldn’t be prouder of their attitude in this regard. If they can learn from mine and other men’s mistakes and avoid divorce by not getting married in the first place then so much the better.
/r/Divorce_Men24/08/23 11:14 PM
5

Nope, she’s not even bothered about it and won’t change. I throws for yrs to get her to stop hoarding stuff like old birthday cards and magazines but to no avail. In the end I just had to throw it out knowing it would cause an argument but I wouldn’t put up with it. I begged her to go to therapy but she always refused. In the end she cheated with an old BF….and that was that, I was done.
/r/Divorce_Men24/08/23 08:15 AM
9

Yes. She was a boarder line hoarder and a disgusting slob. I kept a lid on the worst of it because I had to keep the house clean for the kid’s health when they were young. Her house now is filthy, cobwebs everywhere, dried up food on the floors and looks like it hasn’t been cleaned and dusted for years. I’m not a saint in term of cleaning but there is a limit I won’t go beyond, she never had this limit and seems to be happy living in filth.
/r/Divorce_Men24/08/23 12:59 AM
27

She also attempted to murder another 10. Sick.
/r/MensRights19/08/23 03:59 PM
3

Just trying to rub your face in it and get a reaction. Best thing you can do is to not respond, that will drive her crazy. Women live for drama, so don’t feed the troll. If you need to, get out for a few hours and take a breather…keep your eyes on the path forward, her being gone forever!!!
/r/Divorce_Men19/08/23 12:39 PM
10

This. Statistically a mediocre male player would have more success in a women’s league with fewer participants. This equates to more prize money etc, so it’s a good deal for trans women to be in the women a tour.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 06:00 PM
2

Box up her stuff and move it to a secure storage unit. Prepay for a fixed amount of time (say 2 weeks), then inform her of the details. If she doesn't collect or continue paying...well that's on her, the company will just dispose of the stuff for her. You can present all the evidence to a judge that you informed her with plenty of time to spare. I suggest informing her by multiple means, email, txt, letter through the door and via her lawyer. That way she can not say she didn't get the msg. Reco…
/r/Divorce_Men17/08/23 02:47 PM
1

Not necessarily. Good mates (male) can make the difference. When I was going through my divorce my best mate was there for me, actually took me away for a week to get some distance, perspective and helped me formulate my action plan. It allowed me to come back to fight my corner in the best frame of mind and actively stopped me from even considering asking my exw to stay. Those are the sorts of assistance men need, not the fake platitudes from society, which to be honest, doesn't give a fuck abo…
/r/MensRights17/08/23 02:34 PM
6

Never go backwards, only forwards. She wants you as an emotional tampon or worse, as a fall back option now that her new life didn’t work out. Never be anyone’s plan B. Tell her you’d rather not, don’t give her any reasons, you don’t need to. Also start to cut down the phone time with her. She needs to understand that you’re not going to be in her life anymore, she ended that permanently, now she has to live with the consequences of her actions.
/r/Divorce_Men15/08/23 05:17 AM
1

This is the correct answer. Although you should also avoid any common law states too.
/r/Divorce_Men11/08/23 09:07 AM
2

Vice is going bust so they really won’t be a problem for much longer.
/r/MensRights11/08/23 08:56 AM
24

Looks like a crack whore for sure.
/r/MensRights09/08/23 09:50 AM
3

Reason number #12758 why you don’t date and marry single mothers.
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/23 09:40 AM
14

This is the truth all men should adhere to…NO single mothers ever!!!!!
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/23 08:55 AM
35

When every aspect of a society tells you that you are evil, can do no good, are useless and the root of all evil…. Then why help those who do the most to put you down? Women have said for ages they don’t need us, so why help them at all? They’re strong and independent, they can help themselves from now on.
/r/MensRights08/08/23 04:35 PM
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He’s going to grow up to be a complete pushover for any girl who wants a simp/slave. He’ll eventually end up broken and divorced, probably alienated from his own kids…all because he didn’t have a father in his life and his mom decided she knew what makes a good man but sadly has no idea.
/r/MensRights08/08/23 12:34 PM
13

The legal ones have a chain of custody which prevents disputes, hence the cost.
/r/MensRights05/08/23 04:20 PM
2

She occasionally tries to make me her “friend” but I ain’t interested. She fucked me over too much for me to ever forget and be friends, she showed just how vicious she could be and I’ve no interest in allowing someone like that in my life again.
/r/Divorce_Men05/08/23 02:10 PM
4

Of course she was cheating beforehand, 100% she was. She's a liar, why would you believe a single word she says now. Asking for her reasons etc will just get you another string of lies.
/r/Divorce_Men03/08/23 03:15 PM
3

You don't need to know, and it's best if you don't go there. All you will get is a load of BS anyway and blame shifting to make it seem like you were the problem. Sure, have the conversation about the future direction and kids arrangements, but grey rock ANYTHING else. She CHEATED on you, you do not need to be her friend, confidant or emotional tampon anymore....she is simply the mother of your kids and NONE of your concern anymore. Your focus should be entirely on yourself and your kids...END O…
/r/Divorce_Men03/08/23 03:13 PM
5

A feminist being hypocritical.....who'd have ever guessed that would happen?? /sarcasm
/r/MensRights03/08/23 03:09 PM
50

That’s even worse. She’s probably the first to cry about antisemitism yet is quite happy handing out white hate.
/r/MensRights29/07/23 12:28 PM
67

Yet another example of a self loathing white woman. She obviously hates her own race and men in general but wants our “support “ in her little fight for more cash. Anyone who willingly puts down their own people deserves no-ones respect from any race. She is the very worst example of woke.
/r/MensRights29/07/23 10:56 AM
1

I’m firmly of the belief that these women abuse and rape these teen boys because they are addicted to the attention they want. They are all very avg looking (or lower end of the SMV) and probably didn’t get that much male attention as teens so now they have an audience of young men they can prey upon them for attention and validation, which ultimately turns sexual. This is the end consequence of females unchecked need for attention and validation. It’s like sunlight and water to a plant, they ca…
/r/AntiFeminists27/07/23 07:55 PM
4

She’s just rubbing your face in it, although as you have kids you have a right to know who is going to be around them even if it’s not full time. It’s too quick to trust this guy around your kids, if it really is that new she has no idea of who he really is. I suspect it’s been going on a lot longer but admitting that means admitting cheating during the marriage and she probably won’t do that.
/r/Divorce_Men25/07/23 11:37 AM
2

Hell no. I’m certainly not going to insert myself into someone else’s beef, hell no. I’ve personally seen a BF/GF fight on the tube and when the white knight stepped up to stop it, they both turned on him and gave a beat down. In todays culture sadly it’s just not worth stepping in as you can often end up on the wrong side of the law, get branded on social media or worse. Just look what happened to that dude in NY that ended up on a murder charge.
/r/MensRights25/07/23 08:49 AM
9

Also her tag as an Entrepreneur just means she has no solid income and expects you to pay for everything. Chicks love to call themselves Entrepreneurs, usually when they have a deadbeat online marketing business selling candles or some sort of multi level marketing bullshit.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/07/23 08:45 AM
5

“Learn how to love myself” or “I need to find myself” is almost always code for “ I want to go and hookup with random men, and ride the CC”. Funny how a supposed self discovery journey involves jumping on new dick.
/r/Divorce_Men25/07/23 08:41 AM
2

How does someone just up and say nope….we’ll they don’t, not without a reason. Chances are there’s something else going on, most likely another man. It’s pretty unusual for the woman to leave the home, not least as that can be seen as abandonment by the courts. The most common reason for her getting her own place is so she can carry on with the AP in the open. I think you need to dig deeper, especially if you’re in an “at fault” state.
/r/Divorce_Men25/07/23 08:36 AM
2

Sounds to me like she has a codependency problem. Be glad you’re free from this person. You need to fight hard for full custody of your kids as her new relationship will probably crash and burn soon and the kids need to be protected from another failure. Oh and her just “mentioning” the engagement was done on purpose to stick the knife in and twist it, she wanted to hurt you by letting you know. Your reaction was ideal, the opposite of love is indifference and that’s what you need to display fro…
/r/Divorce_Men25/07/23 08:28 AM
2

To be fair to CGA I think he mostly has a problem with couples councillors as they tend to be firmly in the woman’s camp. I’ve never used one personally. We did use a mediation service to iron out a support financial agreement prior to the divorce being finalised (done during Covid so the process was delayed a lot due to court closures) and I had to fight tooth a nail against a biased mediator. Relationship counselling is, in my humble opinion, a waste of time. If you’re partner cheated or is de…
/r/Divorce_Men25/07/23 08:13 AM
5

This is solid advice OP. If you don't have a friend to vent to, I recommend a course of counselling. I only had 4 sessions but that was enough to get the emotional load out in the open and off my shoulders. It was enough just to have someone listen. That's the worst thing about divorce IMHO, the person you would normally lean on for support, your wife, is the very person causing the hurt, which is why it cuts so deep.
/r/Divorce_Men24/07/23 06:11 AM
5

That's why you need a lawyer ASAP. You can bet she already knows her legal position. It's clear your wife detached emotionally a long time back and divorce would have been on her mind for a while, so chances are she's already taken legal advice....you need to too as a matter of urgency!!!!!!
/r/Divorce_Men24/07/23 06:05 AM
2

Divorce is scary and the fear of the future and the damage that can be done is genuine, however all that is outweighed by the mental anguish and torture that can be done by staying with someone who really doesn't not only love you, but doesn't even like you, treats you with utter contempt and only uses you as an ATM. I've said this before, but the loneliest I ever felt was lying in bed with my wife, knowing with absolute certainly that nothing was going to happen and would never happen. It wasn'…
/r/Divorce_Men24/07/23 05:59 AM
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Look on the bright side, she's his problem now. Both of them have no morals (she for probably cheating with him, and him for pursuing a married woman), so the chances of a "happy" relationship are almost zero...one of them will undoubtedly fuck things up! Just remember, when it all goes tits up for her (and it almost always does), do NOT take her back. IMHO they always attempt it in some form or another. They start posting about the "good old times", or ring you up " just to check in" etc....rea…
/r/Divorce_Men24/07/23 05:48 AM
0

I suggest you ask your lawyer their experience of the options. They will have seen this play out a thousand times before and can tell you which approach would work best for your situation.
/r/MensRights23/07/23 12:49 PM
2

This is what happens when you don’t hire by merit., in almost every case it ends in disaster.
/r/MensRights23/07/23 11:52 AM
25

Trying to debate a hardcore feminist is a waste of time, they will never be open to other points of view. It’s a cult and they have an entrenched ideology that they need to stick to in order to justify the terrible, empty lives they lead due to their choices and actions, yet accept no responsibility for any of it. You’d have a greater chance of getting hit by lightning than getting a feminist to change her views, and let’s face it the feminists here on Reddit are some of the worst examples you c…
/r/MensRights23/07/23 11:38 AM
4

Mine are all grown up now but me and my ex had the arrangement that there would be a scheduled time for a phone call if either kids or absent parent wanted it but outside that no phone calls or txts unless it was an emergency and that had to go through the other parent. This is a solid rule so that one parent doesn’t interfere or interrupt the others time with their children. If your ex is constantly pestering the kids during your time then I see no problem in turning that phone off. If she comp…
/r/Divorce_Men23/07/23 11:23 AM
9

Starfish duty sex is the norm once married and the frequency is massively reduced. People tend to make much more effort when single or in a non marital relationship. Ask any married man if he’s satisfied with his sex life (when his wife is NOT within earshot) and he will tell you it’s terrible. The sexless marriage is the norm once kids come along and the biggest reason for male cheaters. I know a few men who stepped out of their marriages, but not for just sex, it was to feel desired, respected…
/r/Divorce_Men21/07/23 06:50 PM
2

File first, lawyer hard….no mercy. She’s shown her true character and nothing she says can be trusted anymore. As others have said DNA test is a must, sounds to me like she just wants you as an ATM, so you definitely need to see if it’s actually your child.
/r/Divorce_Men19/07/23 09:35 AM
16

These women have it all wrong. It’s not because he’s likely married or in a long term relationship, no it’s a filter to exclude single mothers. Single mothers by their very nature cannot be spontaneous due to childcare. It’s a simple, non offensive way of saying no thx to a “package deal”.
/r/MensRights18/07/23 02:55 PM
17

Class answer. 🤣. She tried to force a cname on him but it resulted in a “404 error”.
/r/MensRights16/07/23 01:57 PM
4

This. If someone is constantly messaging you it’s ALL about attention. She’s either trying to rub your face in it, just annoying you because you’re the “enemy” or she trying to be present in your mind so she can make a move to “win” you back. Either way….grey rock the fuck out of her.
/r/Divorce_Men14/07/23 05:29 PM
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Of course they won’t. In the feminist mindset just because he’s been found not guilty doesn’t mean he’s not a rapist and an evil person, after all…women NEVER lie do they?
/r/MensRights14/07/23 05:22 PM
2

Wow a bitter exw who used the legal system to run up her exh bill….like that NEVER happens 🙄
/r/MensRights13/07/23 08:30 AM
0

Some would say it’s called menopause because it’s when a woman loses what makes her attractive to men, ie her youth and fertility. Honestly I’ve no idea of the etymological meaning.
/r/MensRights13/07/23 07:27 AM
2

Like the phrase “if a woman calls you an asshole, well you must be doing something right as they all chase after assholes”.
/r/MensRights13/07/23 07:22 AM
0

If you meet a nice foreign woman who meets with your expectations and is traditional in nature then I can see it working ONLY if you move to their country. Bringing her back to a western country means it’s just a matter of time before she gets indoctrinated by the feminist culture and ends up exactly the same as the western women you wanted to avoid in the first place. The only real difference is that this green card wife can abscond with your kids back to her home land where you have zero legal…
/r/MensRights13/07/23 07:20 AM
2

I don’t hate her as much as pity what she’s allowed herself to become. I’d never allow her in my life again, I have a zero tolerance policy for cheaters, but she thought she’d make out like a bandit and have the perfect life afterwards yet it’s me that is doing so much better….and she’s becoming increasingly bitter about that and it boils over into our coparenting the kids. Thankfully my boys are late teens so very soon I’ll have no reason to converse with her anymore.
/r/Divorce_Men12/07/23 05:59 PM
52

Sink a nice drop of whatever takes your fancy, light up a cigar and celebrate the end of your slavery. 👌🏻
/r/MensRights11/07/23 05:05 PM
7

This is wise advice. Slipping out not on schedule could save you from a lot of crazy. You don’t owe her or her family any explanation for doing so.
/r/Divorce_Men10/07/23 08:16 PM
4

13yrs and it took at least 12 months to get over. I started detaching myself at least 6months before the end because her behaviour killed what little love I had left. Once free from her and in my own place the healing started by spending time doing what I wanted, when I wanted and with whom I wanted.
/r/Divorce_Men09/07/23 02:54 PM
31

“Please have your life together as mine is a car wreck and I have a long history of terrible choices. “. …and they think that is even remotely attractive to men???
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/07/23 02:52 PM
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And with that attitude, best get used to boxed wine and cats. Might as well just put up and advert that says “ slave wanted, no sex or fun but you’re required to hand over 100% if your wage to me and do everything “.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/07/23 02:50 PM
7

Hopefully the first domino to fall in the total abolition of alimony. Do I think that will happen?…no, however the elimination of lifetime is a real win for men.
/r/Divorce_Men07/07/23 03:56 PM
2

This.
/r/Divorce_Men07/07/23 02:27 PM
1

If she left your financially screwed, your lawyer can apply to the courts to have her cover your lawyers fee's. women do this all the time...whats good for the goose etc. Find yourself a solid lawyer, they will know exactly the best options for you. It doesn't matter what she tells you, you are entitled to a % of both the house and assets, she is likely just blowing smoke up your behind in the hopes you will just "bury you head in the sand in depression and go away". Fight hard, fight long...nev…
/r/Divorce_Men05/07/23 05:56 AM
13

Personally I'd be 100% laser focused on getting that degree and doing the best I could. Women come and go, but these few formative years are possibly the most important for your long-term career, do not waste them chasing skirt. Get your head down and study, ignore women...that'll come later. If you feel you must date, fish outside the college pond. Treat college dating as you should a work place romance...just DONT do it. Far too risky to your future. Find a local, non college sports club or ho…
/r/MensRights05/07/23 05:49 AM
4

In total, around $75k all in… lawyers, my retirement fund and a few other things. That doesn’t include having to buy a new home ,car, furniture, all household items and the mountain of child support. Overall I think it will have cost around $1M by the time CS ends, however the house is obviously an investment.
/r/Divorce_Men04/07/23 05:11 PM
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Because there are no consequences for them saying so. If a man says “kill all women” he would be instantly fired, banned from social media, shamed and possibly arrested and jailed. However women can call for the genocide of men and nothing happens at all.
/r/MensRights04/07/23 05:07 PM
25

After all the recent failures I foresee both Bob Iger AND Kathleen Kennedy being ousted. With this latest failure, Disney and Lucasfilm is on the ropes. I think the investors and board will insist on Kennedy going and Iger may throw her under the bus to deflect attention. Disney needs to get back to just telling stories without any political messaging, but it maybe already too late for them, they have lost the trust of parents and franchise fans alike. If you think Indy 5 is struggling now, just…
/r/MensRights03/07/23 02:41 PM
45

Because the ramifications are never taught to young boys growing up. We teach them math, languages, science and other life skills but teach them nothing about what is potentially the most important and dangerous decision of their life. If either of my two sons even thinks about marriage I will pay for a session with a divorce lawyer and get them to run through the outcomes so they are fully aware of the consequences. I’ve been instilling in them since they were 12 the dangers of marriage and tha…
/r/Divorce_Men30/06/23 04:13 AM
2

Sorry, but unless you got her signed agreement…you dun fucked up. NEVER pay for anything unless it’s either recorded officially or court ordered. If she needs to finance her new life, she can do that herself, call o her family or get a loan. It’s no longer your responsibility unless ordered to do so by the court. Sorry but your highly unlikely to see that money ever again.
/r/Divorce_Men29/06/23 05:43 PM
39

Cycling club. We do group rides on a Sunday, up to 100 miles in summer. Nothing like chewing the fat with ya mates on a sunny summer’s day down the quiet roads.
/r/MensRights28/06/23 06:53 PM
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My sports club is men only and we defend it vigorously. There have been many attempts by women to gain entry but all have been rebuffed. The reason we can do this is that there is no membership fees, no clubhouse, no professional body affiliations….nothing they can hold over our heads to threaten us with. We want to be able to banter freely about any subject without censorship or having to mind ourselves. Women have their own spaces and we will defend ours. Any member who proposes a change must …
/r/MensRights28/06/23 01:05 PM
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In today's world, why any man would get married is beyond reason. Women are NOT the respectful, helping, caring partners they once were back when marriage was a partnership for life. No, today they are selfish, entitled, spoiled and hypergamous. Once men cheated more than women, but now it's the other way around. Any man who believes his "princess" is the exception to the rule is a fool and in for a rough ride. The courts, police and child protective services will all be arranged against him, so…
/r/MensRights28/06/23 09:53 AM
2

The time for her to confide in you and ask for your help was during the marriage. Walk away.
/r/Divorce_Men27/06/23 11:48 AM
2

The very definition of self destruction. It always amazes me how many people bite the hand that feeds them, then complain when that person doesn’t want to provide for them anymore.
/r/MensRights26/06/23 02:10 PM
5

And she will probably find it riding another dude. Bored housewife cheating is a cliche for a reason.
/r/MensRights26/06/23 06:47 AM
9

Obviously wife 2 contributes more to the family than wife 1, who is a lazy leech. Each is taking 1/3 of your wage but at least with wife 2 you know they will be well looked after. Wife 1 won’t know to do shit for them and they will probably eat tv dinners due to her non existent ability to parent.
/r/Divorce_Men25/06/23 02:46 PM
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She will probably get it too. At least the kids are teens/late teens so that money train will dry up quite soon. She will probably spend excessively as all women do and be wailing about being destitute in 7yrs. It’s always the same, they’re strong and independent until they want your money.
/r/MensRights24/06/23 01:30 PM
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Exactly this. It’s classic projection. She knows deep down that she is responsible for the breakdown of the marriage due to her affair but she needs to be a victim somehow. In order to justify her actions, both sleeping about and leaving, she will paint you as abusive, uncaring, loveless and cruel both to herself and others. Responsibility and accountability are like kryptonite to women.
/r/Divorce_Men24/06/23 06:00 AM
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Unless of course you’re divorced and being audited by the court for child support, then You are absolutely seen as all those things. 😡
/r/MensRights22/06/23 01:50 PM
3

They are grifters…professional victimhood grifters and both utterly contemptible people.
/r/MensRights19/06/23 04:41 PM
1

If she does it again, press charges. You should feel secure in your house, not having to worry about your crazy ex in there doing god knows what. Make it very clear to her that you will contact the police on her if she breaks in again.
/r/Divorce_Men19/06/23 04:35 PM
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Don’t do it….it’s a trap!!! She’s looking to put you in her friend zone as a backup option in case (and when) her life turns to shit. There’s nothing to be gained from this other than further pain. Best to cut ties completely unless you have kids.
/r/Divorce_Men19/06/23 03:06 PM
2

Expect her not to want to pay once the bills for the new child come due. Once this dream couple starts to struggle financially, she will do anything she can to worm out of her responsibility. I’d also NOT let her get 60/40, it needs to be 50/50 at most. You should demand primary custody until her and her BF have been together for a significant time period. 4 months is far too short and he may well bail. Best to keep the kids safe until they can prove they are stable. I don’t think many judges wo…
/r/Divorce_Men19/06/23 06:06 AM
2

I had to survive like this for 3 months until I could move out. It took that long to get a legal framework in place for support and visitation pre divorce. That first weekend I was alone in my new house was just amazing, I literally ran around it cheering at the top of my voice. Even though most men experience a step down in standards (at least initially), having your own place with the peace, quiet and lack of a nagging bitch is priceless.
/r/Divorce_Men19/06/23 05:58 AM
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Make sure you keep documenting your wife’s abandonment and secure primary custody then hammer her for child support.
/r/Divorce_Men19/06/23 05:53 AM
2

Means she’s a liar and a cheater who will never admit that she is so.
/r/Divorce_Men18/06/23 11:01 AM
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Every man who dares say no to a woman or disagrees with any disrespectful or degenerate behaviour she might exhibit, is a narcissist, misogynist and incel. We all know this is the way they think, accountability and responsibility for their own actions is like kryptonite to them. My personal favourite is the assumption that her money is hers yet his money is family money and thus he should not be allowed to spend anything without her permission. Men should never pay their paycheck into a joint ac…
/r/Divorce_Men18/06/23 06:56 AM
2

Hell no!!!! I’d rather cut off my own balls than marry again.
/r/Divorce_Men12/06/23 05:01 AM
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To make you the “bad guy”. She will claim to everyone that she didn’t want it and you are the evil SOB driving it through. It’s just a sympathy card. Standard female behaviour, accountability and responsibility for their own actions is nonexistent.
/r/Divorce_Men11/06/23 12:27 PM
3

Then why don’t you pay? It’s common courtesy after all?
/r/MensRights10/06/23 07:37 AM
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It’s a straight up “shit test” to see how much of a push over you are going to be. Like you said, if she really liked you she’d probably be happy to split, however any girl who insists on you paying is an out and out gold digger who probably is just after a free meal.
/r/MensRights10/06/23 07:34 AM
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Just remember that most of these women are single for a reason, single mothers, divorced and women with more red flags than a CCP parade. Be careful and protect yourself at all times. Bag it up every time because the last thing you want is one of them coming back with an “oops” story later.
/r/Divorce_Men09/06/23 04:22 AM
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Because corporate America cannot make a buck as easily off vets and LGBT is seen as “fashionable” and acceptable to pander to. These corps don’t give an F about LGBT people, it’s just a cynical grift to make $$$. Notice how none of these brands promote LGBT in the Middle East!!!
/r/MensRights07/06/23 03:14 PM
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She’s a selfish woman so you best prepare your kids for a lifetime of disappointment. Better to do it now than saddle them with abandonment issues later in life. I’d recommend getting them some counselling asap. You sound like a very good father so I have no doubt that they will cope just fine with you by their side.
/r/Divorce_Men07/06/23 08:55 AM
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She cannot determine who you spend time with on your weekends with your kids. It’s obvious it’s not a casual relationship as you’ve been together for a year. Your exw does not get to “approve” anything anymore!!! If she attempts to withhold the kids from you because of this, take her to court for parental alienation immediately. If she even suggests it, get your lawyer to send her a letter saying you will vigorously enforce your rights. No judge will side with her unless your GF poses a risk. To…
/r/Divorce_Men06/06/23 03:10 PM
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French men still get paternity tests from abroad, they just keep it extremely secret. They then get a lawyer and petition the courts for a formal test, which doesn’t require the mothers consent. If it’s proven not to be his child it’s admissible as evidence in subsequent court proceedings challenging his obligations. Of course the judge can also say no, NO TEST. The only other way is by blood type and that is not 100%. However if the child had a 3rd person’s blood type then that would be solid g…
/r/MensRights04/06/23 03:02 PM
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So if she’s in her own house and cooks and cleans for herself, is she still a slave? So by just cooking for her husband she becomes his slave. What if he cooks every other night, is she still a slave then? It’s all just bullshit feminist tripe used as an excuse for modern feminist women’s poor behaviour and relationship skills. Standard feminist smoke and mirrors.
/r/MensRights04/06/23 01:47 PM
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Yo do know that reason and accountability is women’s kryptonite?
/r/Divorce_Men04/06/23 10:38 AM
2

Just be careful. Some judges will not sign off the divorce if they deem the deal to be unfair or one sided, even if you both agreed to it, especially if she’s not got her own legal representation.
/r/Divorce_Men04/06/23 04:40 AM
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Never tiding up after herself and just leave empty dishes in the sink for DAYS or until I got sick of it and did the washing up. I usually had to do a full days work, come home wash up, cook the kids dinner (she couldn’t cook for shit), then wash up again. Despite being the only person at home during the day (kids at school) the house always started off clean and was a shit tip by the time I came home. I lost count of the number of times I had to ask her to clean up after herself, it would chang…
/r/Divorce_Men03/06/23 08:18 PM
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Huge mistake. How can one lawyer represent both of you, it presents a conflict of interest. I highly suggest you retain your own council, especially if things get adversarial.
/r/Divorce_Men03/06/23 08:12 PM
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MaKe your lawyer aware of the situation asap, especially about parental alienation and potential illegal eviction. If necessary have them draft a letter to your in-laws stating your rights under the law and that your lawyer will go after them vigorously if they break them. They can serve you with an eviction notice but that will have a minimum time period so allowing you to gain alternative housing. They cannot just tip you out in the street. As others have said record EVERYTHING, preferably in …
/r/Divorce_Men03/06/23 03:01 PM
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I’m convinced such men are usually married and their wives have their balls in her purse. I very much doubt single men support this nonsense unless they are desperate simps who think by siding with the feminists they will be offered a crumb of 🐈. However we all know that the only thing feminists hate more than MRAs are simps. Sure they say they love them, but look who they chase and bed…chads and alpha males, whilst the simps are endless friendzone members only used for their utility.
/r/MensRights03/06/23 02:47 PM
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File a police report for threatening to harm the kids. You must remove her from the house. Whilst she might be just spouting shit (ie she would never actually harm them) you cannot take that chance, she is now a direct threat to their safety. Contact a lawyer and get her out.
/r/MensRights03/06/23 02:11 PM
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What I did was get outside. For me my release was cycling, getting out for hours (sometimes up to 8hrs at a time, even in the cold and rain) was a godsend and very therapeutic. I did cycle a lot prior to my divorce as it helped with the stress of it all (and to get me away from her). Walking would have the same effect. Anything you can do to occupy yourself which is positive and not self destructive is where you need to focus.
/r/Divorce_Men03/06/23 08:52 AM
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Your responsibility for her ends as soon as the divorce is final. Support should be what is legally required and nothing more. Women are often incentivised not to work through overly generous alimony and child support awards, damaging their prospects for employment when those benefits run out. They then become destitute. For her own good she needs to accept responsibility for herself and get back to work, at the very least she should be demonstrating a desire to do so. You should not encourage h…
/r/Divorce_Men02/06/23 09:03 PM
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What she says and what she eventually does are two very different things. Once her lawyer gets in her ear, all verbal deals you might have made will be out the window.
/r/Divorce_Men02/06/23 03:40 AM
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My exw got pissed when I got a gf, even though she cheated and asked for the divorce. Women are just as territorial as men can be, although they fail to see the hypocrisy of their actions. Once you split up neither partner has the right to demand anything from the other, except when it’s about the kid’s welfare. Likewise unless a new partner represents a threat to the kids then there’s nothing you can do. It is, however, common decency in the best interests of coparenting to inform the ex partne…
/r/Divorce_Men01/06/23 10:32 AM
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Yeah. They come running back once the consequences of their actions become real, usually when the money starts to run out. NEVER be anyone’s second choice or fall back option.
/r/Divorce_Men31/05/23 05:51 AM
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I would classify myself as MGTOW although I’m certainly no monk. I do have a GF but we don’t (and will never) live together or get married. My participation in the philosophy is mainly along the lines of no marriage, no cohabitation because I went through a nasty divorce and refuse to play that game again, especially because of the horrendously biased family court system. I don’t hate women but I’m also sensible enough understand their nature and avoid the potential pitfalls, such as being alone…
/r/MensRights30/05/23 09:36 PM
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Just make sure that your first birthday after you get rid of her is super special and doing something fun for you. Being handed divorce papers is never nice but there’s no reason for being unnecessarily cruel on your birthday. This woman deserves everything coming to her.
/r/Divorce_Men30/05/23 06:32 AM
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Have her sectioned and get you and your child the F out of that marriage before she kills you, herself or your child.
/r/Divorce_Men29/05/23 04:06 PM
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You need to cut that shit right out. She does NOT stay over under any circumstances ever again. If she wants to see the kids she can work towards joint custody. Stop being mr nice guy and draw boundaries for your house. You should not have to put up with a cheating ex in your house, let alone one who bitches you out. Time to grow a spine and stop being such a pussy. Sorry if this is harsh but you need a bloody kick up the arse!!!
/r/Divorce_Men28/05/23 05:47 PM
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So she’s issuing an ultimatum that either you do as you’re told or you lose your children. This woman has no respect for you at all. Unfortunately the laws are against you so you have to decide what’s more important to you. However, it must be said, that if you capitulate on this, forever will she control you and use the children as weapons.
/r/Divorce_Men26/05/23 08:52 PM
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Let me guess, the sex dried up soon after you got married? Women think they have the right to control a man’s sexual desires yet demand that we respect theirs. Get rid of her asap.
/r/Divorce_Men26/05/23 07:00 PM
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It’s hard but you need to do the hard work to emotionally detach. Nothing good will come from hanging onto the past. Time to move forward.
/r/Divorce_Men26/05/23 06:38 PM
2

Indifference is the opposite of love, not hate as many people think. Women absolutely hate indifference, it drives them crazy. The very best strategy to take with an ex is being the grey man.
/r/Divorce_Men26/05/23 06:30 PM
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Indifference is the opposite of love, not hate as many people think. Women absolutely hate indifference, it drives them crazy. The very best strategy to take with an ex is being the grey man.
/r/Divorce_Men26/05/23 06:30 PM
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One thing you will find is that life is MUCH cheaper without a wife. As a result you can live comfortably with a lost less. Having the peace, quiet and stress free house is worth it’s weight in gold. You’ll be happily surprised how many things make you happy now that you’re free.
/r/Divorce_Men26/05/23 06:28 PM
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I went from a 3 bed terrace house to a 4 bedroom detached house in a much nicer area. This was via a 6month rental of a small apartment. I had enough reserve cash to buy a house, basically from an inheritance she couldn’t touch. That saved me. My standard of living is 100x what it was and I finally have peace and tranquility in my home, which is worth far more to me than anything else.
/r/Divorce_Men25/05/23 09:15 PM
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If it’s to protect your children and she has a proven track record of mental illness and substance abuse….the clauses stay!! You need to stop being the nice guy and protect your kids. She’s not fit for unsupervised visitation and she must prove that she can follow basic rules and guidelines for parenting including a UA to show she’s not using. Habitual drug users are selfish people who don’t really have any concern for people other than themselves…is this really a responsible adult? If she’s not…
/r/Divorce_Men25/05/23 03:18 PM
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Sorry for you, but learn from this and don’t let there be a third time!!!!!
/r/Divorce_Men25/05/23 01:49 AM
2

She’s definitely the sort to poke holes in condoms. I pity any man who becomes involved with her.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 04:48 PM
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To know who wants marriage look who pushes for it in a relationship…certainly NOT men. There is Zero benefit to being married for men.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 09:40 AM
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Same. I browse and contribute to remind myself never to go there again and to help young men to see the dangers. A smart man learns from his mistakes but a wise one learns from the mistakes of others.
/r/Divorce_Men24/05/23 07:41 AM
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Personally I wouldn’t, and didn’t. You need to concentrate and focus without distractions. At this critical stage you don’t need any possibility of unwanted pregnancy, emotional entanglement etc. Give yourself a break from women completely and work on just having fun for you. Find new hobbies, friends and just enjoy not having to put anyone else’s feelings above your own.
/r/Divorce_Men20/05/23 04:27 AM
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The key to having a happy life is to know when you have a good situation and are content. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to improve your situation but I feel that a lot of people today get lost in a relentless pursuit of “stuff”, possessions and social clout. Downsizing your life and not chasing stuff can be extremely rewarding, as it frees you up to concentrate on other things, career, family, friends, hobbies etc. Being debt free rather than a slave to repayment is extremely liberating. Do…
/r/MensRights18/05/23 05:57 AM
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Her definition of family man = slave.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/05/23 01:11 PM
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Tell your lawyer and get her income investigated as part of the divorce. If she's pulling in lots of cash, you might owe nothing,or better yet, she might owe you. She might also not be paying income tax or declaring her earnings, so the IRS might be very interested too (depending upon if you want to go scorched earth). I would advise against this, especially if you end up not paying CS, as that could alter the deal in her favour. As for the moral aspect, it's not frowned upon so will have no out…
/r/Divorce_Men15/05/23 07:05 AM
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Oh she offers recreation, just not to any men she seems “worthy” of being in a relationship with her. If Uber chad comes along, she’ll drop those panties double quick.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/05/23 05:58 AM
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If this divorce demand came out of the blue, you better believe she already has another man in play and has probably been cheating on you for quite some time. If you live in an ”at fault” state, hire a PI immediately and go after that evidence. Also if you have kids you need to protect your rights IMMEDIATELY. Do not let her dictate when and where you can see them. Next lawyer up because it’s going to be a long process.
/r/Divorce_Men13/05/23 02:03 PM
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I remember that social experiment whereby a guy setup a fake dating profile with a male model’s photo and a bio that said he had convictions for child sex offences. He got TONS of women approaching him, even single mothers with young children, despite the HUGE red flags. Just goes to show that some women are their own worst enemy.
/r/MensRights13/05/23 04:56 AM
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Then no, they can do that themselves.
/r/Divorce_Men12/05/23 09:14 PM
1

Mine excludes bonuses as they are not a given. I know some justifications state a % of bonuses must be given. Safest way is not to declare any bonuses at all. It’s always irked me that you can slave away and really improve your situation yet are punished for doing so. The wording they use is that’s it’s for “the children” but we all know all your CS is not spent on your kids. Why should my bonus go to pay for a new pair of shoes or a handbag for her? My ex had never done anything to improve her …
/r/Divorce_Men12/05/23 02:08 PM
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Glad to see men are waking up to the reality that marriage is nothing more than a wealth transfer scam from men to women and lawyers.
/r/MensRights12/05/23 10:58 AM
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Blasting his name would in fact prejudice the case by tainting the jury, which is probably why they are doing it…to “up” the conviction rate. Disgusting and against every civilised notion of justice.
/r/MensRights12/05/23 05:08 AM
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In UK. Yes I do. Again it’s down to income disparity not actual needs of the children. Thankfully both mine will be off CS very soon and I get my financial freedom back and never have to deal with their mother ever again.
/r/Divorce_Men11/05/23 07:59 PM
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Once it’s over, it’s over. The minute she checks out, lies, cheats or refuses to pull her weight or work with you….you’re DONE. Any sign of weakness is a signal to her to carry on or amplify her bullshit. Staying strong and checking her on her nonsense is the only way.
/r/Divorce_Men11/05/23 07:02 AM
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"Found a girlfriend on Tinder."...that was your mistake right there. Tinder is for hookups, not for finding GF's. Tinderellas are 99% pure trash.
/r/Divorce_Men10/05/23 04:33 AM
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I have a long term, non cohabiting GF and I' also feel that if this one dies, which it eventually will, that I'm done with women. I'm only 48 but see absolutely no benefit to having a woman in my life, NONE. All they seem to bring is heartache, expense,drama and uncertainty. I'm lucky enough to have late teen kids, so they will very soon be finding their own way, so I'll have the time and money to indulge myself in whatever I desire and retire early, damned if I'm going to let a woman fuck that …
/r/Divorce_Men10/05/23 04:31 AM
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Of course he will blame men. He knows full well that women initiate 80% of divorces so is purely blowing smoke up their asses to secure more business opportunities for himself. If women believe that men are always to blame even when they themselves are in the wrong, they’re much more likely to file first and line his pocket with the husbands cash.
/r/MensRights09/05/23 12:54 PM
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This is the answer. My teen boys often just want to go out for a nice meal for their birthdays and exw has often suggested that we do a joint meals. However I know full well that she just wants me to pay for it all, I refuse and always do separate meals. She is so painfully transparent.
/r/Divorce_Men09/05/23 07:36 AM
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You have to ask yourself if she can lie about other men and online cheating, what else is she lying about. You don’t have to tell her about a DNA test, just do it. If it’s your kid, stay silent and no harm no foul. However if it is not your kid then you have some hard choices to make, but at the very least you will know the truth and can move forward without doubts hanging over your head.
/r/Divorce_Men08/05/23 07:10 PM
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I make sure my kids buy something for my exw and do a card each, but beyond that she can whistle dixie.
/r/Divorce_Men08/05/23 04:31 AM
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File first. You need to accept that the woman you face in court is NOT the woman you fell in love with, she no longer exists! Stop trying to be Mr Nice Guy, because your stbxw will not return the kindness. Strike hard, strike first…no mercy!
/r/Divorce_Men08/05/23 04:29 AM
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She will likely ignore this and there’s pretty much nothing you can do about it. Just keep your daughter talking about her feelings and don’t give in to the temptation to pry or bad mouth her mother. Keep the moral high ground and only react if the situation warrants it. If she endangers the child or he is potentially a threat then you must take the appropriate legal steps.
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/23 08:49 PM
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As long as the dude is not a criminal and a danger to your kids you really can’t control who she has around them on her time, nor she when it’s your time. It’s common decency to not bring your new partner around your kids until it’s serious and long term and to let your ex know. You DO NOT need their permission or consent, but in the interests of coparenting, it’s recommended. Obviously she thinks she’s above this level of decency.
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/23 06:41 PM
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The reason is you are asking him to do something you KNOW full well is dangerous for him, yet you still want him to go ahead. That to me says you’re more interested in what you want than his welfare. It’s selfish and thoughtless. I’m sorry if I sound harsh but I’ve been exactly where your BF is now. My exw promised on her life she would never betray me, never cheat, used all the platitudes possible to put aside any doubts I had….yet she did all those things and used the court system as a weapon …
/r/MensRights06/05/23 12:54 PM
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You reassuring him means NOTHING. You have the right under the current laws to destroy him in divorce. It’s like handing over a loaded firearm and telling you that you’re not going to face any consequences if you discharge it against him. The fact that you say you won’t doesn’t mean that you won’t. Millions of women have said they’d never ass rape their man in court yet as soon as lawyer get involved then all bets are off and they go right after the $$$. How about you head over to the divorced m…
/r/MensRights06/05/23 12:25 PM
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Just ask yourself that if you went skydiving and were told there was a 50-60% chance the parachute wouldn’t open….would you still jump? Hell no you wouldn’t!!! So why the hell do women complain when men just want to protect themselves from financial and emotional ruin? Do your BF a favour and drop the subject, because we sure as hell won’t. It’s in every man’s best interests NOT to get married under the current legal framework. If you really want to show him that you love him, how about you prot…
/r/MensRights06/05/23 12:17 PM
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If it seems like every thing was going ok and she’s suddenly out of the relationship, chances are there is another man in the picture. Sounds like she’s already checked out and had her head elsewhere so your best option is to get out with as little damage as possible, which after 2.5yrs and no kids should be easy to do. As another person said, make MALE friends, start hobbies and work towards rebuilding the lost money. It will take a time to rebuild emotionally, so avoid any women and do the wor…
/r/Divorce_Men06/05/23 05:07 AM
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Of course she wants you around as that safety net, when she’s all out of options. They’re so many stories on this sub by men who have experienced this outcome. It’s pretty much a meme by this point.
/r/Divorce_Men05/05/23 10:08 AM
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Chad is the community generic name for a guy who is a womaniser, the typical 10/10 they all chase who has the physique, looks etc who beds lots of women but NEVER commits to them. Women like this always think they’ll be the ones to lock chad down and leave stable relationships for chad, until he pumps and dumps them….then they come running back.
/r/Divorce_Men05/05/23 10:06 AM
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Exactly. My ex and I are on good terms and co-parent well, however I refuse to let her in my front door and I will also refuse to go in her house, it's a boundary I won't cross. My house is my own and it makes me feel violated if she was there. She once asked if she could come for xmas lunch as I had the kids for xmas that year. I said a firm NO, I wanted to enjoy mu xmas and having her there would destroy the good vibe. I think she understood even though she was upset...but tough shit, divorce …
/r/Divorce_Men05/05/23 06:48 AM
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She wants you back as an orbiter, a useful idiot who she can ask for favors. In essence she still wants the usefulness of a husband but without having to sacrifice anything. This is why girls ask you "can we remain friends" afterwards...they always want that option to return if it goes horribly wrong with chad (which it always does). NEVER BE SOMEONES PLAN B.
/r/Divorce_Men05/05/23 06:36 AM
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Got it in one. This is why monkey branching is so important to them.
/r/Divorce_Men01/05/23 04:05 PM
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They give credit away because they know they can come after the husband for the cash later. Once married her debt becomes your debt. This is yet another reason to never get married.
/r/Divorce_Men01/05/23 12:47 PM
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You really think if the situation was reversed she’d help him ? How many men end up homeless or sleeping in their car as a result of an exw going for every last drop of blood in court. They don’t care if you’re destitute as long as they’ve punished you, even if she was the one who cheated. Once she asked for the divorce he owes her nothing. His only responsibility from that point forward is his kids welfare. She is an adult, time to strap her big girl pants on and become responsible for her own …
/r/Divorce_Men01/05/23 12:44 PM
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This is the way. Most women expect to have everything handed to them on a plate. During marriage they often think money just “happens” as they don’t actually earn it or pay any bills. Then they go and demand a divorce without any clear understanding of the scale of the financial mountain in front of them. She will be begging you to let her off child support etc or asking for assistance. Don’t give her a penny. Child support is exactly that…for the child and she should have to pay no matter what …
/r/Divorce_Men01/05/23 12:41 PM
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This is why I sent (send) my boys to a single sex school. They thrive in that environment where they don’t feel the pressure for female approval or the any risk of false accusations. I went to an all boys school and firmly believe that single sex education is best for boys.
/r/MensRights01/05/23 12:34 PM
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They really really hate it when they have a masters yet earn way less than you. They fail to equate hard work with salary level, instead thinking a masters is a magical gateway to big money, then get shocked when it doesn’t materialise due to their laziness. My ex always reminded me I “just” had a BSc and that she was higher educated than I. The fact that I ran a successful multimillion dollar business for over 20yrs was irrelevant to her. Success is earned in the real world not gained by a piec…
/r/Divorce_Men30/04/23 04:52 PM
2

I dont think so but you can bet if the Russians were at the door, emergency legislation would be steam rolled through immediately much like Ukraine did.
/r/MensRights30/04/23 08:20 AM
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I’m glad both my boys are about to leave secondary school (high school in the uk). Whatever “education “ they get forced to sit through is countered effectively by YouTube and RP content on the internet. Policies like this are forcing young men to find content that explains their situation and feelings, and they naturally get RPd. Both my boys have seen what divorce did to me, how much better my life is post split from their mother, they know life without a wife is better. I’ll just keep reitera…
/r/MensRights28/04/23 05:11 AM
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All her list of demands says to most sensible men is “I’m a lazy bitch”. Nope, hard pass.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/23 04:34 PM
2

Pick your poison…stay in war torn Sudan and possibly live or get “rescued” and almost certainly die?
/r/MensRights25/04/23 01:32 PM
3

Rather than address the causes of why young men feel alienated, abandoned and invisible to society they’d much rather demonise them further and then hunt them down. It’s little wonder why men are checking out when every single complaint they have is ignored and explained away as toxic.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 08:35 AM
2

For me it was cycling. It allowed me to get out of the house for hours. You have a lot of time to think and plan when on the road alone. It was the outlet I needed at the time to calm my mind and focus.
/r/Divorce_Men23/04/23 05:11 AM
6

Congratulations brother. Success stories are always great to read. 👌🏻
/r/Divorce_Men23/04/23 05:08 AM
8

Serial alimony and child support collector. It’s her “career”.
/r/Divorce_Men21/04/23 08:11 AM
5

Of course. You and he aren’t under any legal restrictions like a gagging order so you’re free to consult or talk to whomever you want. He may have history of her past behaviour you know nothing about which could be useful. There is no way she will know unless you tell her. If you’re that worried l, then get your lawyer to reach out to him or his lawyer. They are bound by client confidentiality laws.
/r/Divorce_Men21/04/23 06:08 AM
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Personally id reach out to him and team up. She’s going to be asking her new guy to help destroy you so you need to also return the favour. This woman has a proven track record you might learn a few important fact from her previous victim.
/r/Divorce_Men21/04/23 06:02 AM
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Of course. It’s always been about the money 💰. Marriage is simply a wealth redistribution scam, it always has been.
/r/MensRights21/04/23 04:25 AM
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You made the correct decision 👍. No man should ever white knight for women, especially complete strangers. The risks are just too high. There’s many examples of innocent men doing the decent thing only to be punished by a false accusation. It can ruin your career, end your marriage and alienate you from your family and friends. It’s just NOT worth it!!! They are ‘strong and independent’, let them carry their own bags.
/r/MensRights20/04/23 03:02 PM
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Mine tried when her money started to run dry. Her house (was our house) needed extensive repairs and she had the gall to ask me to help her out. When I said no she switched tactics to trying to win me back. I wouldn’t EVER consider that ever again.
/r/Divorce_Men20/04/23 02:58 PM
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Been in your position and whilst it sucks right now, life does get better. You will come through this trial and your life will be much better whilst her will probably spiral. Best advice I can offer is to strike hard, strike fast and have no mercy. Whilst she’s deep in the affair fog is the best time to secure the best deal possible. She ‘may’ take her eye off the ball so you must keep 100% focused on your children, job and the divorce. Hit the gym, do hobbies, spend time with your kids and frie…
/r/Divorce_Men20/04/23 02:55 PM
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Personally this sounds like a prison sentence and not one I’d stand for. I’d divorce her immediately, in fact I’d have done so the moment she started making “demands”. Marriage is a partnership, not a dictatorship. She has no right to demand such extreme measures in the home that YOU pay for. Kick her out and start living your life, because this is no life at all.
/r/Divorce_Men20/04/23 12:23 PM
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Personally this sounds like a prison sentence and not one I’d stand for. I’d divorce her immediately, in fact I’d have done so the moment she started making “demands”. Marriage is a partnership, not a dictatorship. She has no right to demand such extreme measures in the home that YOU pay for. Kick her out and start living your life, because this is no life at all.
/r/Divorce_Men20/04/23 12:23 PM
17

Because they get away with it and face no consequences when caught lying.
/r/MensRights18/04/23 03:55 PM
8

My ex tried when her money ran dry and her house needed extensive repairs. Her attempt was so painfully transparent I just laughed in her face.
/r/Divorce_Men18/04/23 05:58 AM
1

Just remember that in some jurisdictions your finances are still intertwined when separated. For example if she ran up huge depts you might still be liable for those. Best to get a full split and force her out into the world on her own. Let her find out just how much “fun” it is. A grey divorce is not a pleasant prospect but I think I’d prefer that to having her be able to fuck up my life beyond my control. Saying that longterm separation can work. My parents were separated for 15yrs prior to ge…
/r/Divorce_Men17/04/23 05:04 AM
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OF is a den of thieves. Women praying on lonely men, all with corporate and societal backing just to extract money and feed their addiction to attention and validation. Disgusting.
/r/MensRights16/04/23 05:57 AM
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Standard tactics for modern society, try and ban /cancel that which doesn’t agree with your own views. People have lost the art of persuasive argument in favour of outright censorship, and feminists are by far the worst proponents of this totalitarianism.
/r/MensRights16/04/23 05:46 AM
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This is the way.
/r/MensRights15/04/23 10:16 PM
3

Never was a wiser word spoken.
/r/Divorce_Men15/04/23 08:08 PM
3

I love a good success story. Keep up the solid work brother. 👍
/r/Divorce_Men13/04/23 12:47 PM
1

Sad to say yea it will blow up, probably over money and her unrealistic expectations. As your kids is a teen they will get a say in where they live. Your wife would find it almost impossible to alienate him from you, which is a good thing. If you’re local you will be able to see him after school etc no matter what she says or demands. Just make sure your son knows he can see you and stay with you anytime. Check out this clip to see what happens when police get involved with a teen and their pref…
/r/Divorce_Men11/04/23 06:52 PM
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Improving your health is bad yet sleeping about with random men is empowering??? The world really is upside down right now.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/04/23 02:38 PM
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In the eyes of the law unless there is a good reason (such as violence or abuse), you have as much rights as the mother. In practice we all know it doesn’t work like that, which is why it’s very important that men protect themselves against false allegations as it is very often used as a method to justify alienating a child from their father. Without that false allegation she “could” be guilt of parental alienation which would be viewed badly by the courts. If you fear she might run away with yo…
/r/Divorce_Men11/04/23 02:29 PM
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Fantastic news brother. Enjoy both the extra time with your kids and the extra money in your pocket. Just be prepared, you might have won this battle but she will still want to fight the war. This is a complete “injustice” in her mind so she’s going to do everything she can to right this crime against her. Keep recording everything and sticking religiously to the new agreement. Give her zero to work with whilst recording her craziness. Arm yourself for the next battle, because one thing I’ve lea…
/r/Divorce_Men11/04/23 05:48 AM
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What you need to do is draw up a detailed accounting of the expenses the child will cost per month, including all school clubs, hobbies and a clothing allowance, then divide it based upon an agreed residence schedule. Set this amount as the interim CS amount until it’s agreed by the court as part of the divorce. Until the divorce is completed, NO alimony payments. File immediately and ignore any emotional blackmail. Personally I’d wear a voice activated recorder to protect myself from false accu…
/r/Divorce_Men10/04/23 08:09 PM
1

It’s always useful to learn by other’s experiences of divorce. That way men can best navigate what is a totally hostile and biased court system. Best of luck to you.
/r/Divorce_Men10/04/23 11:02 AM
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I’ve got another 12 months until my freedom. Already planning a long vacation across Europe to celebrate. I think my bitch exw is in for a rude shock, I know her income is not enough to cover the mortgage and her living costs. She’s not bothered to advance her career over the last 18yrs, instead relying on my income. Still earns roughly the same as when we met 25yrs ago. Even after I funded a masters she’s still not earning anything more. Any cries of poverty will fall on deaf ears. I did chat w…
/r/Divorce_Men10/04/23 07:48 AM
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You need to go grey man. Ignore what she’s doing unless it harms your kids. You need to concentrate on yourself and your kids first and foremost. This could actually play to your advantage. If she’s deep in the affair fog she ‘may’ be inattentive to the divorce settlement, allowing you to get more favourable terms. As for another woman, I wouldn’t go there! Last thing you need is more drama in your life. If you got a GF, chances are she will make demands, have expectations etc…not what you need …
/r/Divorce_Men09/04/23 11:33 AM
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File an immediate order of protection. Any judge should be persuaded that he is a risk to the children and award you full temporary custody until the full hearing.
/r/Divorce_Men09/04/23 08:20 AM
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The moment this new guy makes a threatening move or there is a confrontation, restraining order. Use a PI to dig into his past for anything that can be used to show she is putting the kids in danger by bringing him around them. Use this to prove she is a bad mother and get that full custody.
/r/Divorce_Men09/04/23 06:45 AM
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“From the streets she did come, and to the streets she shall return”. Only a matter of time until her hoe tendencies rise to the surface, she cheats and he gets divorce raped…..but probably not until she’s secured that 18yr financial annuity (aka a baby).
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/04/23 04:54 AM
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And this is why I keep my number of employees below a certain threshold, whereby I’m not subject to meddling by local government on this sort of bullshit. I employ only men and and proud to do so. I’ve never once had a hostile work environment, not one incident of conflict nor any kind of grievance filed between employees….in over 15yrs of running my business. I’d rather accept lower profits and keep the company free from bureaucracy than chase the money. Would I ever hire a woman….no, no f’ing …
/r/MensRights08/04/23 06:34 AM
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Mine did the same. Our house was a "fixer" needing lots of work and expense. I offered to buy her out but NO, she was emotionally invested in the house so she bought me out. She took the max mortgage she could and then didn't have any cash to keep the property up, so it's fallen into serious disrepair. She's quite heavily in negative equity so cannot sell up either. Bitch even had the nerve to ask me to borrow cash, knowing full well she had no method of paying it back. I said no immediately as …
/r/Divorce_Men05/04/23 10:27 AM
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Her throwing a fit was your warning sign to run away from her FAST. IMHO that's the only good thing a prenup is for as it's well know a judge can alter it if they deem it "unfair". Mention a prenup and if she kicks off, well you have your answer what she really thinks.
/r/Divorce_Men05/04/23 10:22 AM
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The only “new” friends I made after divorce were guys in the same situation as myself. We use each other as sounding boards about legal issues, custody, hobbies etc, it’s also useful for keeping us honest. When one of us gets a gf and starts getting too deep in the fog, the rest of us remind him of everything he went through, the extreme risks and consequences of marriage. That way we remain clear headed about our female relationships.
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/23 02:00 PM
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Keep it light and enjoy the intimacy, just remember to keep yourself protected….last thing you need right now is a baby scare. Try not to get involved too deep, I know it’s hard after being starved of a healthy sex life but you still need time to do the work on yourself and get the other side of your divorce before you drag somebody else into your drama (and same for her too). By all means use each other to lean on but NO discussions about futures or plans etc. KEEP IT LIGHT!!!
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/23 04:58 PM
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Just end the torment and move on. It’s not worth flogging this particular dead horse any longer, your marriage is dead and has been for some time. You need to just accept that and continue with the divorce process.
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/23 06:20 AM
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What a surprise, no accountability or responsibility for her actions.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/04/23 09:26 PM
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You CANNOT submit to this demand!!! Any woman who would issue such an ultimatum neither loves or respects you, I think it’s safe to say your marriage is dead. Better you exit now with only one child to pay for than have it fall apart later with two on child support. Call her bluff. Say “ok, seems as you want to resort to ultimatums and emotional blackmail, then yes, I do think we should divorce!” Watch her backtrack and deflect saying she didn’t mean it etc etc. once the divorce threat has been …
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/23 01:08 PM
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She’s the sort who would complain loudly about being destroyed if he husband cheated despite having 6 affairs herself. She is just yet another entitled, selfish, self absorbed narcissist.
/r/MensRights01/04/23 11:34 AM
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Tragic ending. I hope the mother rots in jail for a long time and her family members who took part. This is why you don’t get involved with crazy women no matter how hot they are.
/r/MensRights31/03/23 11:47 AM
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Most of the young ones took full advantage to whore themselves out to the rest of Europe, I doubt they will want to come back at all.
/r/MensRights30/03/23 04:23 PM
4

The best description of their nature I’ve ever heard. Melvin Udall was a prophet.
/r/Divorce_Men30/03/23 12:03 PM
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Not completely, but this is my last turn of the wheel. I have a long term GF whom I don't live with (and never will). I've made it very clear we will never marry and that if she's not ok with that then shes free to leave at any point with no hard feelings. If/when this one dies out I'm probably not going to bother again, I'm nearly 50 and have no desire to go through the utter shit show again, I'd rather enjoy my friends and hobbies without having to "put her first". In the OP's shoes I'd avoid …
/r/Divorce_Men30/03/23 06:00 AM
2

I would. Go full scorched earth on her ass.
/r/MensRights27/03/23 10:46 AM
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Sorry dude, but you’re pretty much fucked.
/r/Divorce_Men24/03/23 10:23 PM
5

Are you in a state with lifetime alimony? Could be she’s stalling for time to get her life payout.
/r/Divorce_Men24/03/23 05:31 PM
1

Reason no #6537 to avoid dating apps.
/r/MensRights24/03/23 11:37 AM
2

Your “wife” is for the streets. Leave her there and move on with your life.
/r/Divorce_Men23/03/23 08:44 PM
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It doesn’t matter what outcomes she has, what path she takes, what mistakes she makes or how much she fucks up her own life…..all of that will be MENS fault somehow. Women, especially feminists, can never accept that the shitty end result of their lives is a direct consequence of the choices THEY made.
/r/MensRights23/03/23 01:06 PM
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Just remember the most important thing. When your ex’s life spirals, and they always do, don’t allow her to worm her way back in. She’ll try every trick in the book, to get her sucker support system back online. Don’t be her bail out, her emotional tampon or even her friend. Ghost her completely and never look back.
/r/Divorce_Men23/03/23 11:57 AM
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I think it would fall fowl of GPDR legislation if they post any personal information for which the fines can be HUGE, not to mention defamation lawsuits and other legal issues. FB at least allows them to act with an umbrella of sorts. I hope they do go ahead and get sued into the ground.
/r/MensRights21/03/23 06:59 PM
5

I take it legal separation can be instigated by one party without the consent from the other, so in effect the richer person can force it through and guarantee they are protected? One wonders why even bother with marriage at all.
/r/Divorce_Men20/03/23 07:38 PM
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Exactly. When you have this much money, losing half really has zero effect on your standard of life. He has more money than he could possibly spend, the monthly interest alone is more than the avg person would earn in a dozen lifetimes. I’m sure he’s got an iron clad prenup and she’ll be very well taken care of. You can’t take it with you so why not do what the F you like???
/r/Divorce_Men20/03/23 07:36 PM
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As the other poster said, you cannot kick her out. However as the home is only in your name you can file an eviction notice against her. I would be very wary of this and consult with your lawyer first as any family court judge “could” see that as you forcing your child onto the street and maybe would grant her sole custody and levy heavy child support and alimony against you. You want to do the minimum amount of actions to remove her but also the maximum you can get away with before the court si…
/r/Divorce_Men19/03/23 08:53 AM
5

I used to live with a hoarder, it’s a truly horrible way to live. Everything dirty all the time, smells bad, can’t find anything, always having to move shit about. I eventually lost my cool and when she was visiting her family, I spent the entire weekend, literally 48hrs non stop emptying the whole house, deep cleaning it and throwing away everything that I considered junk. She of course went mad but I told her that it was damaging the kid’s health and I wasn’t going to put up with it anymore. S…
/r/Divorce_Men18/03/23 09:09 AM
1

I’m sure a civil case could be filed against her for loss of earnings and emotional distress, probably defamation of character too.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/03/23 10:22 AM
2

All smoke and mirrors. She’s tried the hard sell, that didn’t work so now she’ll try the soft sake approach. Expect lots of love bombing, sex etc but don’t fall for it. Every married man know the sexual frequency before marriage is just a bait and switch, and that it all dries up after that ring is on her finger.
/r/Divorce_Men15/03/23 09:05 AM
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This man know the score. 👍 This was my exact thoughts when I got divorced. I have a GF but I will never live with her no marry her. She knows this and I’ve made it clear from day one. If she wants kids and marriage then she’s free to leave with no ill feelings. I’ve also taken care of the potential baby issues myself permanently if you know what I mean ✂️. I’ve also said that if I find she’s sleeping or involved with another man it’s game over instantly. I frankly don’t care what she does with h…
/r/Divorce_Men14/03/23 10:30 AM
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Depends what you want. If you just want sex and something casual then it’s probably not that important (as long as you wrap it up for STDs and pregnancy). If you’re after marriage and a family then YES it’s very important. Someone who has a large body count and a history of transactional relationships is usually not very good at monogamy and loyalty. Past behaviour is a great indicator of future actions.
/r/Divorce_Men14/03/23 10:19 AM
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Man you’d have thought that you’d have learned from the first time around. Sorry to be harsh but when the failure rate of second marriages is roughly 70% why would you risk getting attached to 3 new children and have the ripped from your life yet again? Sorry to appear blunt but you really need to think again about this.
/r/Divorce_Men14/03/23 10:12 AM
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Nor should you have to. There is a difference between joint decisions and having to ask permission from your partner to buy what you want with YOUR OWN money. This goes back to the old “my money is mine but his is family money “ saying. As long as both parties are putting money into a joint account to pay the bills then what’s in their own accounts is their own. You should NEVER EVER merge funds completely, it’s a huge mistake and you can bet that she will never consult you over purchasing but e…
/r/Divorce_Men13/03/23 09:14 PM
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Not having to consult with anyone for choices large or small is a godsend. Enjoy your freedom. 👍
/r/Divorce_Men13/03/23 04:22 PM
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The sudden change in attitude from moving and wanting more family to divorce is not unusual. I would say that it’s a likely indicator of another man in the equation. She’s had her head turned, most likely by someone who made her “feel” something was lacking in her marriage. He’s got her believing that she has a future with him but in reality he’ll probably run once she’s divorced and a single mother. Then reality comes crashing down on her little fantasy and she might attempt to crawl back. The …
/r/Divorce_Men13/03/23 05:06 AM
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100%. When every bit of evidence says it’s literal suicide to get married why does any man still do it? All I can think is those that do are spineless idiots who bow down to the demands of their “princess”, she in turn gets on her knees for chad.
/r/MensRights10/03/23 08:24 PM
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Sounds like this lady you mention is running out of biological time and wants to rush you into fatherhood and marriage. It's sad to say but women at this stage often just want ANY man to fulfil that role, then later on decide they are not happy and that she "settled" and now wants to divorce to find her chad. Personally I'd avoid her like the plague for anything beyond a bit of casual dating, but like the other poster said....be VERY aware of any potential baby trapping, the baby rabies makes wo…
/r/Divorce_Men10/03/23 04:59 AM
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Dude, get out asap. You do not want to be her emotional punchbag to decades only to have her divorce you yrs later and run off with half or more of everything you spent a life working for. Divorce her now and get out with as minimal damage as you can. You are young so Your alimony will be smallish and you probably don’t have a huge amount of assets to divide. The very last thing you want is 20yrs of misery followed by a grey divorce (Google it).
/r/Divorce_Men08/03/23 02:43 PM
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Play hard ball with her. Until a child support judgement is made you are under no legal obligation to pay for anything. The fact that she’s asking for more than you earn shows that she is living in cloud cookoo land. You have to be prepared to fight otherwise she will railroad you and you will be living on the poverty line whilst she gets an easy life. Have your lawyer draw up an agreement based upon your states guidelines, which is what the court will likely follow anyway. She cannot just pluck…
/r/Divorce_Men08/03/23 02:38 PM
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And so was she 🤣
/r/Divorce_Men08/03/23 01:27 PM
1

I wouldn’t leave it to chance. Prior to separating I’d get a lawyer and file a motion against removal. If in doubt find the child’s passport and safeguard it. Baby’s can be on their parents passport but not (afaik) a foreign one. Get a lawyer and an injunction ready to go at a moments notice. A judge should at least grant a temporary stay order until a full determination can be made, which would at least stop her from running with the child.
/r/Divorce_Men05/03/23 03:03 PM
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You definitely need to have the child support issue nailed down now. If, say 15yrs later, she has a change of heart or falls on hard times, she can come after you for back payments and interest, which could be HUGE. There are reference cases if women coming back 20yrs after divorce. Don’t leave it to chance!!!!
/r/Divorce_Men04/03/23 04:49 AM
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Give them advice on how to navigate the world and situations (they're both teens). I gave them both long talks on girls and the current societal dangers, false accusation and how to handle working in school with girls (ie never be alone etc) They understand the risks now and will protect themselves at all times. I've also instilled the need to find their purpose and what makes them happy, chasing a degree (whilst good for some careers) is not the only path open to them. Basically I'm trying to r…
/r/Divorce_Men02/03/23 07:12 AM
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Increasing numbers of men are single because they are waking up to the fact that women don't love us like we love them, they love opportunistically and will drop you on a whim if you lose your job, can't pay for her shit or her hypergamy kicks in. They increasingly only see men as a walking ATM, just there to finance their easy lives. They all want to live a celebrity lifestyle on someone else's dime. There doesn't seem to be ANY accountability in any of them anymore either...anything goes wrong…
/r/MensRights02/03/23 07:02 AM
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This. Always make sure you are protected from false dv claims.
/r/Divorce_Men28/02/23 07:44 AM
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The reason why divorce is so expensive is because it’s worth it to be rid of someone who damages your mental health and treats you like the enemy. No amount of money is worth the freedom and peace you gain from no longer having to live with a headcase.
/r/Divorce_Men25/02/23 04:22 PM
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I seriously doubt it. The courts don’t like to punish women…..only men.
/r/Divorce_Men22/02/23 09:41 PM
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The ultimate revenge on a cheating spouse is to live your life to the fullest, gain success and be happy.
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/23 08:15 PM
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And this right here is why all men should be incredibly wary of dating single mothers. You never know what goes on in the minds of her children, how they feel about you being with their mother and what they might do to get her back with "daddy". IMHO it's just too much of a risk. This story is NOT unique, there are many tales of false accusation both on the new "father" but also of his male children being accused.
/r/MensRights20/02/23 06:19 AM
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Don’t have alimony but I’ve got 2yrs left to run in my child support and I’m so looking forward to that day. Not because I don’t love my children, but I will be able to support and help them directly without their mother siphoning off funds for her personal expenses. I know all the money I give is not used exclusively for them and it really burns me. I know I will get a phone call from her pleading to continue the process but I won’t. Without the CS she’s going to be pretty broke as she’s done n…
/r/Divorce_Men18/02/23 05:44 AM
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Often subs that are mostly or purely male spaces are invaded for the purpose of posting “questionable” content. The reason they do this is so they can report and get the sub banned. ‘againsthatesubs’ is well known for this type of false flag operation: https://youtu.be/TG8xWJaJO-c
/r/Divorce_Men17/02/23 07:40 AM
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I’ve already told my teenage sons to avoid girls at all costs until they are older and have successfully completed their education. Luckily they have both seen the effects of false accusation as it has happened at their school, seen a boy get devastated by the system and seen the girl get zero repercussions when she admitted she lied. They know that the system won’t protect them so they need to protect themselves. I’ve impressed upon them the Pense principal, never ever be alone with a girl, and…
/r/MensRights16/02/23 08:45 AM
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I’d sue for lost wages, emotional damage, false imprisonment…basically anything that my lawyer could think off to nail her ass to the wall. I think there’d be plenty of lawyers who would take on such a case especially as she just outed herself on national tv.
/r/MensRights15/02/23 02:34 PM
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According to their rules theirs is the only acceptable extremism and they love to force it down kid’s throats.
/r/MensRights13/02/23 06:45 AM
11

She’s sold her sex appeal all her life and now that she’s old and it’s disappeared she’s desperately trying to recapture it and looking mighty foolish in the process. Everyone knows exactly how old she is yet she wants to try and convince everyone she’s a lot younger. Carry on like this and she’ll look like another bride of Wildenstien.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 10:48 PM
-2

If she has kids she must be responsible for their financial support. She doesn’t just get to remove her responsibility. Insist she continues to support them because if the situation was reversed YOU wouldn’t be allowed to.
/r/Divorce_Men09/02/23 03:18 PM
6

Most of us don’t hate women but HATE the system that fucked us over and damaged our relationship with our children. This is why most men today are extremely wary about marriage and relationships with women, the system enabled the absolute worst in human behaviour.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 11:57 AM
1

If you want to date just stay clear of the apps and meet people in person, ie social events…much more likely to meet someone you like rather than someone who just wants a free dinner.
/r/Divorce_Men09/02/23 11:48 AM
28

The later, never go backwards only forwards. Going back to something that has already failed once is just a recipe for it to fail again and all you achieve is more wasted years. There’s nothing wrong with just seeing someone who has their own life, you do not need to be living with them to be happy. Try being in your own house without a woman, I can guarantee that you’ll remember why you used to love it. No nagging, things the way you like, your stuff, time for hobbies, none of her annoying rela…
/r/Divorce_Men09/02/23 05:25 AM
11

Guard your wallet….GUARD IT. The amount of female grifters out there is astounding. Never dinner or any expensive dates, follow the Leykis 101 rule, max of $40, $0 is optimal. No action by the 3rd date?…cut her loose and move on. And never, NEVER simp for any woman. Do not even think about anything serious right now, lest you fall victim to a rebound relationship.
/r/Divorce_Men08/02/23 05:46 PM
12

It means you have a long, hard and expensive fight ahead of you.
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/23 09:49 PM
8

Don’t agree to a future 50/50 split of the house. If it goes up in value you’ll owe her more. Best to get ALL financial entanglements done and dusted asap so you are free and clear of her.
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/23 09:44 AM
16

Never….that’s like asking turkeys to vote for thanksgiving.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 12:52 PM
93

Sorry but your apology is neither wanted nor accepted. Your intentions were clear for everyone to see, you just wanted to shame men to gain views and you managed to get called out (something which happens very rarely for women) and you ended up playing yourself. Next time don't be a shitty human being and stop using other gym users, who are just there for the gains, to fuel your need for social validation. Any NO I will never help any woman in the gym, on the side of the road or in ANY situation…
/r/MensRights06/02/23 07:43 AM
5

This is why you ALWAYS bring your own and dispose of it safely yourself. If there is nowhere to safely dispose, you tie a knot in the condom and take it home or flush it out fully before you dispose of it. NEVER EVER leave birth control choices up to women, you take responsibility for it yourself or you stand a very good chance of being a walking wallet to her for the next 18yrs.
/r/MensRights05/02/23 03:00 PM
50

Gyms need to enforce a no phone policy. No pictures, no filming. Only reason for having your phone on you is music.
/r/MensRights04/02/23 04:16 PM
16

Sorry but you sound very codependent. Just live on your own and take one day at a time. You don’t need to be entangled again, honestly once was more than enough for me to learn that lesson.
/r/Divorce_Men04/02/23 02:18 PM
4

Exactly. We know women are herd animals. If one gal in a female friend circle does something, most of them will follow suit. This is often how guys get blindsided by divorce. Bring a traditional girl to the US and as soon as she make’s local friends, the clock is ticking on your relationship.
/r/Divorce_Men04/02/23 07:31 AM
2

You can setup a lot of legal cover for a partner, such as power of attorney, provision in wills etc but the important thing is it’s not done with a gun against your head. I firmly believe that cohabitating couples are far happier than married ones, simply because both partners know the other can walk away with no strings if they don’t behave or maintain the relationship. The same cannot be said for marriage. You can also not have a bait and switch situation where one party changes after the wedd…
/r/Divorce_Men02/02/23 05:04 PM
2

I firmly believe that in the current legal and social climate there is nothing that a marriage offers to a man other than pretty certain financial ruin and misery. I was lucky in that mine was that rare uncontested and amicable divorce but lots of men have stories about being utterly destroyed. I’m already teaching my two sons never to get married. In my country there is no legal prenups and luckily also no common law marriage, so even if they meet the perfect girl there is nothing they can’t al…
/r/Divorce_Men02/02/23 03:47 PM
10

This is the way. Her life WILL crash and burn eventually...they always do. When two people of such low moral character get together, the destruction is just a matter of time. The best revenge you can have is to live your life well, find happiness and be successful in everything you do. That will drive your ex nuts far more effectively than you raging at her. Just remember all the pain, rage and emotional turmoil that she has caused when her life falls apart and she comes crawling back, begging f…
/r/Divorce_Men01/02/23 10:28 PM
63

Of course he did...after all the court takes a cut too...the larger the CS order the larger their cut.
/r/MensRights01/02/23 10:20 PM
14

There's still a lot of ingrained prejudice to prefer white guys, as in they are seen as better providers etc. Probably because historically they have been the wealthiest race. That's obviously not true now, but old attitudes still prevail. Plus there are a lot of westernised beauty standards in some Asian countries. I still remember my time in Japan where cosmetic brands were advertised by western women on billboards and TV. They still do today, but to a lesser extent. I'd stay away from betabux…
/r/MensRights01/02/23 10:15 PM
7

When the dead bedroom, complete lack of respect and any affection was starting to effect my mental health...that's when i knew I had to get out. After that choice was made in my mind, I also found her cheating with an ex BF, which only confirmed my original thoughts. She said she wanted a divorce and I agreed, but she hesitated after seeing how well I moved on without her, so I had to drive it forward at every stage. It was nice to be in the driving seat for once and not just reacting to her act…
/r/Divorce_Men01/02/23 10:05 PM
5

It’s because when her life falls apart she will want that safe, easy option to fall back to. Either her man will dump her or financially she will struggle. Either way her life will be fucked and she will look for the easy way out…they all do. It’s easier for her to rope you back in to pay for her life and be her emotional tampon that make the hard choices and fix her life or work hard. There are so many stories on here about women who cheat on their husbands, they end up single and desperate and…
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/23 06:56 PM
8

She hates it because deep down she knows you won’t ask HER.
/r/MensRights31/01/23 05:21 PM
15

Women come and go, but true friends are a blessing to be cherished. I have a friend who is closer to me than my own family and I know I can count on him to have my back no matter what. I’d run into bullets for him because I know he’d do the same for me…I’ve never known a woman I could say that of, there’s always conditions attached. If she’s trying to isolate you from your friends then it’s time she goes. Simple as that because she has no respect for your choices, friends or wellbeing.
/r/MensRights31/01/23 05:19 PM
19

The best revenge you can take is living well, being happy and successful. Her life will eventually crash and burn, they all do, almost without fail. She will come crawling back at some point and make out that it was all your fault. Always remember the disrespect, lying and pain she put you through and say HELL NO to her. Be there for your kid but refuse to play her power games etc. Do not engage but go grey man with her…:be polite but business like, if it’s not about the kids then you do not ans…
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/23 05:11 PM
27

Yet they themselves chased older men while young because those men had more money. Standard feminist hypocrisy in action.
/r/AntiFeminists31/01/23 02:13 PM
2

Girls will be girls…when they manipulate, cheat, lie, deflect, fail to accept any responsibility etc. see it works for girls just fine too.
/r/AntiFeminists31/01/23 10:57 AM
2

See as many of the good ones in your area as soon as possible. When you see them you eliminate them from her possible list as they cannot represent her if they’ve talked to you first. This will also allow you to gauge who is the best fit for you. Look for past success rate, a willingness to fight for a male client, a personal commitment to you etc.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/23 07:33 AM
2

Before I got divorced, after I moved out my ex would send me a wall of vile txt on messenger (her favourite medium). Not one msg mind, but hundreds over the course of an hour so my phone was constantly pinging. She knew it would annoy me, so I learned to just turn it off so it wasn’t even vibrating. The fact that I was ignoring her drove her crazy and for a while caused an increase in the abuse but eventually she learned that I wasn’t going to engage and the msgs dried up. Now I only get msgs di…
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/23 06:13 AM
14

They need to mandate an EU wide arrest warrant for deliberately avoiding it. If men get pulled up for avoiding conscription then so should women.
/r/MensRights30/01/23 08:44 AM
17

This is how it starts. It starts off her diminishing things that are important to you and ends up her asking you not to do those things. How many men have been told by their gfs or wives to stop doing a hobby, seeing friends or riding bikes etc because they would “if they loved her”. It both a shit test and a form of manipulation. Don’t fail the test. Ignore her and carry on doing what you wanted to do. If she belittles you, ask her to leave. Don’t put up with the disrespect she’s showing you.
/r/MensRights30/01/23 05:40 AM
28

Openly displaying her mental damage…at least this one is up front about it. Most women like this hide it until they have you suckered in or can cause maximum damage to your life.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/23 08:00 AM
19

More red flags than a Chinese communist parade 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/23 07:58 AM
19

Not interested in hook ups or a serious relationship, so basically wants you to pay for dates and meals!!! What’s the odds that she’ll need an extra takeout from her “date” for those kids too? She’s only looking for an ATM guy. Another classic example of a wallet leech.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/23 05:58 AM
31

She totally made it all up, either to get a quick payday or to blackmail a promotion. I find it interesting that she’s a trained architect yet is working as an administrative assistant, so that Uber expensive 7yr degree is totally wasted…no wonder she wanted some cash, those student loans have to be huge.
/r/MensRights29/01/23 05:54 AM
38

Gotta find that new wallet before you leave your current one, otherwise who’s gonna pay for those future car jackers?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/23 05:48 AM
35

I’ve heard it said, by women, that they chase taken men because they see another woman’s interest in a man as attractive. If another woman has something that they don’t, they want it. This explains why they chase bad boys that sleep about, other women are having these men, so they want that too. The same also applies to women’s friendship groups where often when one does something (baby, marriage, divorce etc) they all tend to follow suit. Females tend to have a herd mentality whereas males tend…
/r/AntiFeminists28/01/23 12:18 PM
21

Time to stop enabling her. Cut off all but the bare minimum of funds for the house. Do not buy food (you eat elsewhere), cut off her phone (if you pay for it) etc. let her stand or fall on her own dime. Don’t lift a finger to help in any way especially not helping her go on dates. Get your exit plan set and established and execute it asap. Just be thankful you have no kids. Btw your debt is her debt as you are married so she will have to take a portion of that, sucks to be married. Just make sur…
/r/Divorce_Men28/01/23 06:39 AM
18

So if we only concentrate on our own pleasure, we’re selfish yet if we take pleasure in making sure our partner gets off we’re also bad? Yet more proof that women have no idea what they want.
/r/MensRights27/01/23 08:06 AM
1

The only way to protect yourself against this is to never get married and don’t live in a common law marriage country or state. Make sure assets you want protected are in your name only and NEVER disclose financial information to anyone especially not a gf or long term partner. Keep it secret, keep it safe. Personally id rather not live with my gf so there is zero risk of losing my home.
/r/MensRights26/01/23 03:17 PM
8

Same thing happened to a friend of mine. He was the subject of targeted harassment because his face didn't "fit" and he operated the pence rule, ie never alone with a female, no interaction etc. They obv hated him and span a lie to get him fired. He had the last laugh though. His company's main production app used a lot of code he wrote BEFORE he joined them, so he revoked their license to use it and his lawyer sent a cease and desist notice. They had to shut down for 3 weeks whilst they got con…
/r/MensRights26/01/23 06:10 AM
12

Ah the old “ride the CC until your looks start to fade then demand a man wife you up”…..and that works so well nowadays. Men have woken up to this and are now longer willing to be a woman’s retirement plan or second choice.
/r/MensRights25/01/23 11:02 PM
2

You don’t have a wife, you have a leech. She brings nothing good to your life and treats you like a slave. She’s lazy, entitled and narcissistic…you need to divorce her NOW so that you have time to rebuild your finances before retirement. Don’t delay, go see a lawyer today and start the process. Anyone who has shown this much disrespect and disregard for you over such a long period deserves no sympathy from you.
/r/Divorce_Men25/01/23 04:42 AM
51

Of course the avg man goes out to work thinking about how he can oppress his wife/gf not how he can support and provide for them (sarcasm). Women have this so backwards it amazes me. The top 1% of men have power, most of us just struggle to get by and have ZERO privilege, in fact quite the opposite, we have all the expectation on us with no rewards.
/r/MensRights24/01/23 12:01 PM
14

Yes I have…and divorced. I have no issues with divorce for solid reasons such as infidelity, violence or other abuse. However you just want to do so for pure material reasons, which is no better than the worst women we rail against on here. Why the F did you get married if you care so little for her? You should have just stayed single at let her find a proper family.
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/23 05:32 PM
7

Literal nazi manifesto, forced sterilisation of undesirables..ie men. Now image if a man said all women should be forced into having their tubes tied and only their husbands could allow a reversal….the feminist shit storm would be biblical. They only suggest this because women NEVER accept responsibility for anything, it’s never their fault they get pregnant. They, of course, never slept with chad and let him hit it raw, like the concept of saying no or insisting on protection never occurs to th…
/r/MensRights23/01/23 05:22 PM
27

What a piece of shit you sound like. For most men, what you describe she is like is the literal unicorn we all hope to find…attractive, loyal, loving, kind and no body count. Yet you want to destroy her and leave her for zero good reason. You should really take a look at yourself and figure out why you are so fucked up. Normally I completely support divorce but in your case absolutely not.l, you deserve to get cut in half by the courts.
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/23 05:12 PM
0

Because responsibility and accountability is the avg woman’s kyrptonite.
/r/MensRights23/01/23 05:03 PM
5

It usually means "Its about time I started controlling you".
/r/AntiFeminists23/01/23 05:30 AM
12

Continue to try and make contact. If she still refuses and actively tries to avoid her daughter then you have evidence that she’s abandoning. It many take some time to establish custody. Get your lawyers advice and file asap. The court will know her address so expect her to suddenly pop up again, especially if you’re paying CS, she won’t want that threatened!Record everything, ever contact attempt, every email….everything. Best of luck b
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/23 05:07 AM
3

Women often have photos of themselves throughout their houses, especially when they get old because they have to remind themselves they were once hot...as they've now got old and vain. It's often a sign of a self absorbed personality. By contrast men's photos are often group related, things (ie cars) or achievements (skydiving, events etc).
/r/Divorce_Men22/01/23 11:52 AM
15

Remember men.....you are NOT allowed to have any preferences. All of your sexual desires will be governed by angry western feminists, and you will shut up and take it "like a man". The fact that these women are quite literally the least desirable in history means nothing to them, we are just supposed to accept their bullshit rather than look for a partner who is willing to work WITH US not against us. No man wants to battle the odds at work and have to come home to a woman hellbent on making his…
/r/AntiFeminists22/01/23 11:40 AM
16

I also was in a sexless, loveless marriage and there is nothing so painful and lonely as lying next to the woman you “love” and knowing nothing will ever change. My only advice is to get out asap before you turn into a bitter, angry person. Once divorced you will be much happier.
/r/Divorce_Men21/01/23 09:44 PM
1

Always believe what a person does over what they say. Women profess to love nice guys but they chase bad boys who treat them like shit and keep going back to them. So YES women do love being treated poorly.
/r/AntiFeminists21/01/23 09:02 AM
4

Ah but you see they’re going over there to get their backs blown out, they still need billy beta at home to pay the bills. When passport bros leave western women aside, who’s going to pay for them? Expecting women not be hypocritical is like expecting water not to be wet.
/r/AntiFeminists21/01/23 04:58 AM
6

Congratulations on your escape and we’ll done for coming out whole. 👍
/r/Divorce_Men20/01/23 06:19 PM
5

Sold mine. I don’t want the reminder anymore. I’ll never put one on again so why keep it?
/r/Divorce_Men20/01/23 03:07 PM
4

I get the feeling that they will keep extending it to punish Tate, knowing full well that they cannot press charges. If it was a slam dunk, charges would have already been filed. This smacks of revenge, no matter your position on his views.
/r/MensRights20/01/23 01:59 PM
3

Rarely if ever.
/r/AntiFeminists20/01/23 11:28 AM
430

If the asking out occurred within sight of a security camera then ask them to see the footage. It should be obvious that she approached you and nothing happened except a polite rejection. This is clearly her being embarrassed and wanting to remove the source of her embarrassment from the gym. In fact get a lawyer to draft a letter DEMANDING the footage. When you have it and her story contradicts the evidence, sue her for slander.
/r/MensRights20/01/23 08:34 AM
7

Of course. If you divide and cause everyone to fight each other then those in power (govs, corps and the wealthy) can get away with anything they want. A population divided is easily manipulated. Men hold a unique position in society as we are the ones who would be out on the streets fighting in a rebellion. By subjecting men you ensure totalitarian power is unopposed.
/r/AntiFeminists19/01/23 11:27 AM
261

All men should boycott dating apps anyway, they’re an utter dumpster fire and drive female inflated egos. IMHO they are the single biggest factor in the breakdown of inter-sex dynamics. You couldn’t pay me enough to sign up.
/r/MensRights19/01/23 11:23 AM
50

Glad you overcame it however to use the often quoted mantra “my body, my choice!” All men have the right to decide their own destiny and reproductive choices. In fact a vasectomy is one of the ONLY uniquely male choices….and it should remain so.
/r/MensRights19/01/23 10:26 AM
2

This is a train wreck. The common denominator in all these disasters is your fiancé. It sounds like he has VERY poor judgment and relationship skills. Personally if I was you, I’d walk away. I know this is a mens sub and we usually support men, but in this case you really need to ask yourself if you really need all this drama in your life?
/r/MensRights19/01/23 05:10 AM
4

FFS, you had a dream and now you take that as real?…are you a girl? That’s the sort of shit women do, grow up!!!
/r/Divorce_Men18/01/23 06:37 PM
6

Boys raised by feminists often have no strong male figures in their lives and crave that male connection and need for male group approval. It’s a natural part of our masculinity, to seek approval of your peers. When you have an ideology shoved down your throat, especially one that demonises you personally, it’s perfectly natural to rebel and reject it.
/r/MensRights18/01/23 06:31 AM
2

It’s always been this way. However the upside is there is no common law marriage either.
/r/MensRights16/01/23 08:30 PM
10

Usually because it was rushed (she used the “under duress” premise to get it dismissed) or it was deemed unreasonable in scope. Implementation of prenups are eventually down the individual judge’s discretion, you could get a reasonable one or an utter feminist who will throw it out and punish you. It’s just too much of a risk imho. The only thing prenups are useful for is weeding out gold diggers. If you mention you require one and she goes crazy, you have your answer…time to walk away.
/r/MensRights16/01/23 02:36 PM
16

It was originally done to provide a stable environment for children allowing them to survive, back when childhood mortality was very much linked to having regular food and shelter, which men provided and the women nurtured the children. Now it’s more of a method to extract money from men to give to women, and the children are largely unimportant apart from being the excuse the courts need to do so. If child support was genuinely about the kids welfare then the mother would have to prove that all…
/r/MensRights16/01/23 12:47 PM
9

Totally agree. I’d rather a partner want to be with me rather than stay because they were afraid of the financial repercussions of leaving.
/r/MensRights16/01/23 12:35 PM
8

Uk
/r/MensRights16/01/23 12:21 PM
20

Prenups regularly get thrown out, and in my country they’re not legal.
/r/MensRights16/01/23 11:38 AM
27

That’s the thing isn’t it? It sounds great when you are young and idealistic but the reality can be very different. My own experience was mostly good but the last 3yrs was very painful. The real test is knowing what I know now, would I do it again? HELL NO. There is zero reason for me to get married again, in fact there is only huge risk.
/r/MensRights16/01/23 11:11 AM
62

Marriage is the ultimate passion killer (in most cases, yes there are exceptions). Nearly every married man I know has a dead bedroom to one extent or another, almost without exception. Those in long term non married relationships seem to fair much better. I honestly think it’s because women who know that a man can walk away at any given moment tend to work harder to “keep their man” vs women who know their man is chained by the courts to them.
/r/MensRights16/01/23 10:29 AM
6

Modern dating is an utter dumpster fire. Avoid all dating apps and only ever rely upon in person connections. The old ways were best for getting to know someone. Beware of the foodie call girls, $40 max limit on 1st dates ($0 is preferable). Always follow the Leykis 101: Leykis 101 Rules ALL men should live by: 1. NEVER, EVER date a single mother. 2. Never do what you don't want to do. You make the money, you decide where you are going and what you are doing. 3. Don't ask a women what she wants …
/r/Divorce_Men15/01/23 09:31 AM
6

This is exactly why you NEVER get involved with single moms. No upsides...HUGE downsides.
/r/Divorce_Men15/01/23 09:29 AM
-1

This is why correctly vetting your partner over MANY years is important before even considering kids. You have to actively look for the red flags, views and opinions on things like extreme feminism, sex selective abortion etc. if she shows any signs or fails “shit” tests, you move on. This poor guy will likely lose his child under the guise of a miscarriage, she’ll actually have an abortion, and will never know what a monster his woman is. I hope he finds out and runs far away from this train wr…
/r/AntiFeminists15/01/23 07:36 AM
29

What people object to is the forcing of babies to be circumcised when they have no choice. If you want it done as an adult, go right ahead…your body, your choice. However to force genital mutation on a baby is cruel and inhumane and is utterly reprehensible. We rightly condemn female genital mutilation and it’s illegal but the same is NOT true for males, we have zero legal protection and this is wrong on every level.
/r/MensRights14/01/23 05:38 PM
26

It’s important because past actions are a great predictor of future behaviour. If you knew someone had a bad gambling addiction in their past, would you ask them to look after your life savings? Same thing with high body count, it’s a great predictor of future cheating or potential divorce due to infidelity. It’s only a sensible precaution that is valid for both men AND women. The main difference between the sexes on this subject is the ability of the average man or woman to rack up a high numbe…
/r/AntiFeminists14/01/23 11:27 AM
3

When a modern western woman can ditch their husband for any reason and gets rewarded for doing so, is it really surprising that men are looking elsewhere for a suitable life partner?
/r/AntiFeminists12/01/23 12:06 PM
8

Yeah, and that itself is a huge issue. Malpractice by both police and CPS should not be tolerated and not just the rich should have recourse.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 01:50 PM
21

I’d sue the police and the CPS for false imprisonment. If he had a solid alibi and witnesses of his whereabouts then the police should have never handed the case to the CPS (crown prosecution service). The CPS lawyers should also have seen any case against him was deeply flawed and not only unwinnable but patently a false accusation. The fact that they both proceeded is IMHO a criminal act.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 08:04 AM
6

This man is wise and very correct here…this is a classic deflection and justification tactic. She’s making you the enemy in her head so that she has reason for her cheating…”he made me seek solace in another man’s arms because he was abusive and a terrible husband “.
/r/Divorce_Men10/01/23 08:41 PM
4

No….and I never would. If I met someone and started dating them and they let slip they were a feminist or espoused and feminist buzz phrases I’d quietly ghost them and move on. It’s just not worth the pain and hassle of having to deal with someone who hates my gender and thinks we’re all evil.
/r/AntiFeminists10/01/23 06:01 PM
1

What she has demonstrated is she cares only about the money. It sounds very much like a bait and switch situation, just once per month with demands attached. When you threatened to cause her the slightest financial discomfort she turned on you and threatened you with the police. This is not someone you can trust or should be around. Divorce her and move on.
/r/Divorce_Men10/01/23 05:43 PM
26

What this man says it true. This is just a stalling tactic to get a better deal in the eventual divorce. If you take her back you cannot use her affair against her later. Her lawyer will have told her to stall. Guaranteed.
/r/Divorce_Men09/01/23 09:10 AM
2

Yep. Any looking after the kid or any kind of fatherly role puts you at risk of child support.
/r/Divorce_Men08/01/23 10:13 PM
12

Just make sure that when you have your kids you don’t take the new one. She may try and get you to take it, using phrases like “it’s your kids sibling” or how much she needs a break. Her baby, her problem. Ive seen women try this many times, NEVER accept it.
/r/Divorce_Men08/01/23 07:23 PM
2

Doubtful. Having seen what happened to the Russian armed forces, I think Lukashenko is more likely to keep his troops close to home. When Russia withdraws and Putin is deposed, he knows he's next in line to go. I think he fears his own people far more than NATO.
/r/MensRights05/01/23 08:16 PM
22

They do love them bad boys.
/r/MensRights05/01/23 07:50 PM
1

The very definition of extortion.
/r/Divorce_Men05/01/23 02:52 PM
4

As long as she pays her own bills I see no problem as long as you are careful and don’t get overly involved with her. Just be careful that she’s not using you to finance her trip.
/r/Divorce_Men05/01/23 10:58 AM
29

If only a tiny minority of women are gold diggers, you can’t trust any of them….see how that works, we can play that game too.
/r/AntiFeminists05/01/23 05:33 AM
90

She can do what she wants, just don’t complain if you don’t get asked out or to dance.
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/23 05:49 PM
0

You are aware they very well may close the boarders and possibly arrest foreigners? It’s not somewhere you want to be, especially when there are plenty of alternatives available. Plenty of Eastern Europe countries have nice women and are not actively engaged in open warfare.
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/23 03:51 PM
4

Why would you even consider going anywhere near Russia right now? Seems an easy way to get yourself into serious trouble.
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/23 11:58 AM
2

Dude is shit testing her to see if she only believes in special privileges.
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/23 11:56 AM
11

Rumours of full mobilisation have been circulating for a while now. It’s pretty standard tactics of the Russian government to use articles like this as justification. I’d place money in your assumption being correct.
/r/MensRights04/01/23 08:47 AM
12

Yes…NEVER GET MARRIED.
/r/Divorce_Men04/01/23 08:44 AM
6

Even if indian men don't get married they still face false accusation, extortion via promise (ie "he promised to marry me, I need compensation") and a whole host of other factors such as bias in employment (married men are preferred by some companies and single men discriminated against). I feel really sorry for our Indian brothers, they are literally fucked at every turn. The only answer is to try and remain a single, grey man...unobserved by society and women. Hide your success and wealth lest…
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/23 08:09 AM
2

India's sons The trailer is on youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLoR4RdVzYA&ab_channel=IndiasSons
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/23 08:01 AM
29

She withheld sex because she was already fucking the new guy, and she wanted you to be the one to leave so she could paint you as the terrible man who "abandoned his wife and child". This is pretty standard female behaviour.
/r/Divorce_Men04/01/23 07:44 AM
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She'll get nothing but a slap on the wrist or community service and a fine...There's no justice for falsely accused men and women know it. They can get away with this shit all day long because courts refuse to hold women accountable...it makes me sick.
/r/MensRights04/01/23 07:41 AM
1

Because…rules for thee but not for me!!!!
/r/MensRights03/01/23 02:06 PM
5

This is the way. It’s important to do the work to not be codependent, as that sounds like what OP is, he misses having a partner not necessarily his ex. Spending a good amount of time just by yourself is important to refocus and define who you want to be going forward. It’s also important to discover what you really want out of life. That doesn’t mean you can’t date and enjoy company, just keep it light and no commitments, especially no moving in with anyone. It’s going to take a while to fully …
/r/Divorce_Men03/01/23 02:05 PM
8

No matter how many stories I read about divorce I’m always amazed by the strength of men. All these stories have very similar themes, wife blows up world, man struggles to comprehend what is happening, eventually man finds purpose and becomes a success, wife is miserable and eventually tries to come crawling back. OP just make sure you’re not part of the group that allows these deceptive harpies back into their lives. Continue to grow and be successful. You’ll be amazed by just how much simpler …
/r/Divorce_Men03/01/23 07:47 AM
9

I think most men wish to build a solid base with a nice woman, have the dream family life and be happy...but that is what it really is, a dream. Modern reality for marriage for men is living with and suffering from an oppressive, angry, bitter, manipulative, devious, cheating, narcissistic, entitled, childish brat. There is a very solid reason why the marriage rate is tanking....men have finally started to WAKE UP. They're starting to see the Disney fantasy for the monstrous lie that it is, a sc…
/r/Divorce_Men02/01/23 09:31 AM
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🐳
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/23 07:53 PM
29

Ah more attempts to normalise women cheating. Sensible men do not fall for this bull.
/r/AntiFeminists01/01/23 02:05 PM
4

A lot of this list is actually describing herself. She recognises subconsciously that she’s a huge red flag but deflects by casting her own negative traits on men.
/r/MensRights01/01/23 02:04 PM
3

Henry has proven to be a very wise man so far. He's very wary of women and interactions (think mike pence method) and is on record saying so. This was bound to make him a target of feminists. By all accounts, from his co-stars, he's very professional and does not mix work and personal life, except when the work is being disrespected. Everyone knows he's a huge fan of the witcher and was adamant that it be true to the original work but they tried to shoehorn in modern politics and woke, as they d…
/r/AntiFeminists31/12/22 05:54 AM
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Sadly no. Men's suffering is always ignored my the media.
/r/MensRights31/12/22 05:45 AM
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In most countries this is correct. Inheritance is not divisible as long as you keep it separate and can prove the entire amount is your alone (ie never put it into a joint account). I'd say check your local laws just to be on the safe side. I've found the safest way to deal with this is NEVER to tell a partner the extent of the inheritance, it's non of their business, and less of a temptation for them to try and go after it (even if they're not entitled to it).
/r/Divorce_Men31/12/22 05:41 AM
1

You talk to your lawyer, who has seen this situation hundreds of times before. They will know the exact process to secure the best result and your share of those assets.
/r/Divorce_Men27/12/22 08:58 AM
29

I'm the opposite. I remain here to remind myself daily why never to get married again.
/r/Divorce_Men27/12/22 08:52 AM
21

All men think..”My wife would never do that to me “…right up until the moment she does.
/r/Divorce_Men26/12/22 10:20 PM
15

OP, talk to any married man about who his wife was when they met vs who she was when they divorced….they are NOT the same person. You can love your wife, do everything right by her, provide a good living, be a doting father and do loads of housework etc….but she can still cheat on you. If you truly want to protect your assets DONT GET MARRIED. It really is as simple as that. Marriage is nothing more than a legal contract with the state, one which does nothing for men. You can have a life partner…
/r/Divorce_Men26/12/22 10:16 PM
33

Bingo. Own the choices you made. However we all know accountability is like kryptonite to feminists.
/r/AntiFeminists26/12/22 12:18 PM
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It’s a standard attack vector to degrade a man’s sexual prowess. It’s either incel, he’s got small junk, he was crap in bed etc…it’s just a tactic to get you on the defensive, often to make you do what they originally wanted you to do, which is nearly always against your best interests.
/r/MensRights26/12/22 09:04 AM
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It’ll be a huge flop yet again once the reviews pan it as the mess we all expect it to be. Such a shame, the first 3 films are absolute classics. One has to wonder just when the penny will finally drop that the public hate woke films with a passion? I know they already know this, it’s gotta be fucking obvious, but the amount of money they are losing is unsustainable eventually, surely???
/r/AntiFeminists25/12/22 11:43 AM
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Even there you can. I have discussed this exact topic with my French colleagues (I’m in the uk), they tell me many men get mail in DNA tests. Once the results come back that they are not the father they get their lawyer to petition the court for an official test (obviously never mentioning the home test). The wife cannot refuse a court test. Thus the truth is known. Yes it will cost him a lot more but the outcome is the same and more importantly, the DNA test is officially recognised as evidence…
/r/MensRights25/12/22 10:45 AM
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What you describe is a normal situation, however there are women who KNOWINGLY defraud men with false paternity. Unless the man catches it early it can take yrs and many thousands of dollars (both in lawyer fees and deductible child support) for him to correct the situation. The lying mother almost always faces no consequences for her actions and never has to pay back any of the money she stole. The emotional damage caused by a wife cheating, lying about paternity and the husband finding out yea…
/r/MensRights25/12/22 10:37 AM
13

This is some sick Frankenstein shit.
/r/MensRights24/12/22 10:33 PM
42

I wouldn’t put it past them to file a lawsuit against the late man’s estate. Just when you think you’ve seen the lowest people can stoop, along comes someone new and sets a new low.
/r/MensRights24/12/22 10:31 PM
25

And what a surprise. When times are tough, women walk away. We all know that women file around 80% of divorces, so they’re abandoning their husbands when times are tough. I guess from “for richer or poorer” they only heard the richer part. Just remember gents, when the economy picks up again and you start doing well, and she comes crawling back, begging for a second chance….tell her to pound sand. Never take back anyone who would throw you aside so easily.
/r/MensRights24/12/22 04:50 PM
2

This is the way. I exercise this option for birthdays and Xmas only. I help the kids get something small but that it the entire extent of my involvement in gifts for my exw. Why would I give a gift to someone that I don’t even like anymore?
/r/Divorce_Men24/12/22 10:08 AM
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This is pure cope!!! Men are fed up of western women’s nasty, intolerant, bigoted and shitty attitudes towards us and are voting with both our wallets and our feet. We want to date women who are genuinely interested in building a better future with us , not a partner who is combative, bitchey, always has to be in competition with us,is generally disagreeable to be around and will take us to court for any and all reasons. We’ve had decades of this shit and it’s only getting worse, so fuck you lot…
/r/MensRights24/12/22 09:45 AM
1

Yet another example of “it must conform to us, not us to it” entitlement mentality.
/r/MensRights24/12/22 08:16 AM
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At least this one is saying it, front and centre, that she’s going to rip you off. This is why you avoid baby mommas and don’t ever get married, it’s only ever a trap to land themselves a payday.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/22 08:12 AM
9

More red flags than a CCP parade. Is currently and will always be a member of the Sheng Nu (left over women / unwanted women).
/r/EverydayMisandry23/12/22 06:25 PM
1

And this is the great lie feminism has sold young girls...that you can get around nature and have it all. As more and more of these "mis-sold" women age out there's going to be an explosion of mental illness, depression, self harm and substance abuse...all because they thought they could beat mother nature. The wall is undefeated for a reason, there is no getting around Biology girls...use it or lose it !!!!
/r/AntiFeminists23/12/22 05:06 PM
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You atone for your actions by making the life of your son as enjoyable, loving, fun & fulfilling as humanly possible. Your marriage may be dead, but you're still a father, who's son needs him. Be the very best dad you can be and learn from this chapter of your life...and vow to be a better person for it.
/r/Divorce_Men22/12/22 03:05 PM
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Oh definitely. The amount of articles trying to push open relationships as a good thing is ridiculous. Anyone with half a brain knows that they generally are only beneficial to women as they have easy access to tons of orbiters on dating apps and social media. Your avg husband would be almost invisible to women. The only way for us men to break this cycle of nonsense is to categorically reject it by immediately levelling the consequences of asking for one, ie dumping that gf or wife. If she’s as…
/r/MensRights22/12/22 05:41 AM
4

She shows that she knows nothing about the subject beyond what her leftie circle jerk says, in the very 1sr sentence. Twitter is NOT publicly traded, it’s a private company because Elon BOUGHT IT!!! He answers to no one because he’s the owner, there are no shareholders. Arguably he does answer to his creditors to some degree but they get no say in the running of the company. People like her just spout nonsense that they’ve heard and repeat it like good little sheep.
/r/AntiFeminists20/12/22 08:33 AM
2

Just goes to show that the avg female on these platforms has absolutely NOTHING going for them beyond a pair of tits and a P-sleeve. Nothing special or unique to set them apart, just flashing bits and bobs at a camera. Ducking pathetic. I despair for the future of our country when this is the intellectual quality of our youth.
/r/AntiFeminists19/12/22 12:15 PM
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I didn’t get pressured, I made that mistake all by myself 😡. My friend was pressured into it because all his GFs friends were getting married and she wanted some of the attention too. Needless to say it didn’t last long as she was far more invested in being a bride than she was in being a wife.
/r/Divorce_Men19/12/22 10:15 AM
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Sounds to me like he’s not bothered about not seeing his child. I would never EVER even consider letting my exw take my child to another state let alone another country. I’d fight to my dying breath to prevent that, no matter how much of good terms we were on. OP, your child needs its father just as much as it’s mother. Her fuck toy cannot replace you and you need to stand tall for your child’s sake. If you give up this fight, and it sounds like you probably will, you don’t deserve to be a paren…
/r/Divorce_Men18/12/22 09:52 PM
3

And for gods sake….get some proper legal representation. Don’t try and cheap out and do it yourself. Any lawyer worth their salt would have already told your your original idea was a terrible one.
/r/Divorce_Men18/12/22 07:51 PM
4

Yes it probably would. Even more concerning for you should be that once your daughter is abroad you will lose all legal recourse against your exw unless through an international lawyer at vast expense. Even then she can just flout any judgement. For the love of god DONT DO IT. Without your consent you have rights. Once she’s abroad you have NONE. That nice coparenting agreement you both drew up won’t mean shit. Get you lawyer to draw up an order prohibiting your ex from removing your daughter fr…
/r/Divorce_Men18/12/22 07:48 PM
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And of course no mention of the fact that as they have no income, they also pay no taxes or any of the bills. If you want to be a SAHM and get paid by your husband, he has the right to treat you like an employee, including the right to fire you and replace you for poor work or performance.
/r/AntiFeminists18/12/22 07:37 PM
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And once she’s abroad what’s to stop her from not sending your child back to you, after all she’d have a signed statement from you saying your not involved in your child’s life. Do not sign this “statement”, it might have severe legal repercussions you don’t understand unless you consult a lawyer from the other country.
/r/Divorce_Men18/12/22 07:34 PM
26

And this is why marriage is such a raw deal for men. For being the responsible one you get punished, have your retirement cut and have to expect a much lower standard of living. She meanwhile gets rewarded for acting irresponsibly all her life, gets bailed out and now has her hand in your wallet until the grave. I explained once to a female friend why I’d never consider marriage again…I could meet a lovely woman who met all my needs, we marry and a couple of years later she can take most of my p…
/r/Divorce_Men18/12/22 11:56 AM
10

Of course there’s another guy, there always is. Women are known for monkey branching, they always need that “emotional support “ (aka dick)
/r/Divorce_Men18/12/22 11:46 AM
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The best thing about my exw finding a BF was I stop getting her shit on whatsapp. She used to use me as a venting space for everything that was wrong with her life (by her own hand). I never responded unless it was directly related to the kids, but she never really gave up trying to use me as an emotional tampon. The new BF stopped that and as a result my life is much calmer. He doesn't really want to have anything to do with the kids, so it's a win/win for me. I don't have to worry about anothe…
/r/Divorce_Men18/12/22 06:51 AM
5

Report her to the police immediately. Apart from being a risk to your child she’s also a risk to others.
/r/Divorce_Men17/12/22 09:50 PM
2

Wow. Just wow. I live in the uk and dumped my figures into the calculator. Under uk law I pay the equivalent to $1100 per month for two kids on just under a 50/50 split. Using the mass Calc I’d owe £2550 per month, just under 50% of my income. How anyone can absorb that amount and pay to live is beyond reason. That’s horrifying.
/r/Divorce_Men16/12/22 10:20 PM
2

This may sound callous and insensitive but if she dies then it’ll save you a boat load of trouble. Firstly make sure she’s not just pulling your rope and that there is actually something wrong. It’s not beyond some people to pull shit like this for alternate motives. As for how you handle this, I’d personally treat her no different than you do now, ie she’s NOT your wife anymore and deserves no special treatment or consideration just because she’s ill. If the shoe was on the other foot you can b…
/r/Divorce_Men16/12/22 06:19 PM
51

Maybe for a bit of fun but never seriously for a long term relationship. I don’t want to play (or pay) another man’s saved game.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/12/22 01:20 PM
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“I don’t get it….what is it, why am I not getting dates?” We hello? Single mother!!!!! When will women realise, men don’t want to date single mothers, the downsides are HUGE and risky with little to no benefit to us. Women are NOT entitled to our time or commitment, deal with it. Men are allowed to have standards too.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/12/22 10:46 AM
1

I think high body count is bad for everyone, men and women equally. It breeds a transactional mindset about relationships that leads to people casting aside others with little to no reason and is quite narcissistic. I find people with high counts tend to be very selfish, manipulative and self aggrandising...none of which are desirable personality traits.
/r/AntiFeminists16/12/22 06:16 AM
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Within 4 days of her being outed for cheating and asking for a divorce I had some. Was purely a girl who wanted "friends with benefits" and had let me know she was interested but I obviously had not gone there whilst married. As soon as the mental switch was made, I decided I had no more reason to be committed and could do as I please. I had been suffering a sexless marriage for a number of years, so to suddenly be desired and wanted was just the tonic I needed at that point. My ew realising I h…
/r/Divorce_Men16/12/22 06:03 AM
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In your position I'd fulfil my responsibilities as a father, but to hell with a blood sucking Ex Wife and her lawyers.... You are faced with Hobson's choice...the devil or the deep blue sea. Do you stay and take it upp the ass from the system and live a life of servitude or bail and potentially never see your child again (unless they come to see you when old enough). I don't envy your choice.
/r/Divorce_Men15/12/22 02:31 PM
9

The list of non Hague countries is long, but a lot of them is nowhere you'd want to live TBH. Lots of small African states for example. Only European country is Lichtenstein and that is VERY small, you could face issues if you go outside of it. Only country I saw that is remotely ok was Vietnam. It has a good standard of living and a growing economy. It is not on the bilateral list of US child support: https://www.acf.hhs.gov/css/parents/help/international-parents
/r/Divorce_Men15/12/22 02:25 PM
2

Love the surprised Pikachu face ...
/r/MensRights15/12/22 10:27 AM
45

He eventually got cancelled. A guest committed suicide due to a lie detector test. The backlash was extreme and the show cancelled after over a decade of being on air. He was pretty fair and went after useless women and men in equal measure. The show was basically the UK version of Maury Povich.
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/22 10:34 AM
1

Get your mail re-routed to a secure PO box.
/r/Divorce_Men14/12/22 08:19 AM
43

She's a shit actress, Hollywood elite, pontificating from her ivory tower. All her latest films have tanked (the 355 did horrendously at the box office and was universally panned). She's in no position to demand ANYTHING. Perhaps people are more invested in the situation in Ukraine because it has HUGE geopolitical ramifications well beyond the region, whereas the strife in Iran, whilst being important, is a regional level issue. Also the scale is light-years apart. One is of protesters and civil…
/r/MensRights14/12/22 08:16 AM
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Glad I'm not the only one. Lefties tend to like big gov and lots of hand outs, it breeds a dependant personality. I once dated a leftie chick (I know, it was a HUGE mistake, but I learned from it) and she was very "independent" but yet demanded I pay for everything...it didn't last long!! These sort of left single mothers look for every handout, every sucker out there...yet will not do the hard work to elevate their lives, they'd much rather you do the legwork and they reap the rewards. This can…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/22 08:05 AM
9

The main thing I learned from my divorce is just how little I actually need in life to be happy. I downsized my life, initially because I had to due to financial reasons, but later I carried it on because I realised I didn't need half the "stuff" that came along with a family home. It's amazing just how much bullshit a woman requires and buys to fill the house up with mostly crap....and how expensive that crap is. Once you learn to live with just what you need (and a few wants) life suddenly bec…
/r/Divorce_Men14/12/22 07:45 AM
1

So basically men actually kill themselves, they actually go through with it so it often is not "self" reported. Women attempt suicide and self report it thus stopping the attempt. Am I the only one here who thinks this is more about garnering attention than genuine suicidal thoughts? How often have we heard stories of a GF threatening to off herself when her BF catches her cheating and leaves her? It's both an attention seeking action and an attempt at emotional manipulation. I'm wondering how m…
/r/MensRights14/12/22 07:37 AM
29

Feminism is cancer and mgtow is freedom. 👍
/r/AntiFeminists12/12/22 08:48 PM
53

Not a single man I know in a relationship doesn’t do his fair share. Not a single one. In fact they do far more than their partners. This is yet another example of using sex as a weapon. Do the “honey do” list or you’re an abusive freeloading barstard, oh and don’t forget to pay all the bills too!!
/r/AntiFeminists12/12/22 03:12 PM
6

Of course the easiest way to not get divorce raped is not to get married at all. No prenup needed, no doubt about it getting thrown out by a judge, no alimony or losing your pensions. Easily the best option for men is to avoid the hassle in the first place. Sensible men do not get married.
/r/Divorce_Men12/12/22 05:29 AM
5

A ban from them is a badge of honor.
/r/MensRights11/12/22 09:51 AM
4

Toxic cesspool of misandrist people.
/r/MensRights11/12/22 09:51 AM
21

100%
/r/MensRights11/12/22 09:40 AM
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Never take advice from women in what it means to be a man. When this shaming tactic is rolled out they only want you to do what they want which is frequently against your best interests. Every man has the right to decide what his own life should look like. This is the essence of mgtow, not letting anyone define your purpose or outcomes. A real partner who values you would not stoop to such emotional blackmail.
/r/MensRights11/12/22 09:30 AM
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You answered your own question. Stick to a msging medium that cannot be deleted either by you or her. Once it’s sent it should not be able to take back. This way when she rants and says actionable stuff your lawyer can see it. The flip side is you must maintain discipline over what you write.
/r/Divorce_Men11/12/22 09:28 AM
85

What a way to find out your mom is a hoe.
/r/MensRights11/12/22 09:23 AM
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It makes perfect sense why she’d do it. Make you jealous, keep her in your mind space and ultimately keep you an orbiter so she can pull you back in if it all goes bad. Expect her to come crawling back at some point…they all do. Stay strong and keep no contact. In fact unless you have a legal reason for talking to her, ie kids…block her in everything and maintain ZERO communication.
/r/Divorce_Men11/12/22 07:49 AM
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Don’t friend her. It’s an excuse to look into your life and gather information on what you’re doing and with who. She’s proven that she doesn’t have your best interests at heart and is vindictive…..leave her alone and focus on yourself. Nothing good can come of having any interaction with her.
/r/Divorce_Men11/12/22 07:12 AM
75

Yes I would agree with that statement. Better men look, see and avoid than find out the hard way.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/22 03:09 PM
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Oh she’s totally a 304. You can tell by how proud she gets on defending her right to slut it up. She better get used to being left on the shelf because men are waking up to this and do really care about body count. Why?? Because past actions are a great predictor of future behaviour. No man wants to invest time, emotion, money and his happiness on somebody who cannot pair bond and treats relationships like transactions. That is a sure fire way to divorce destruction.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/22 02:41 PM
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Massive wave of false accusations incoming. Yet another method by which men will be harassed for being men.
/r/MensRights09/12/22 04:39 PM
1

She’s full of shit. You cannot go back and demand rent you paid when you lived there nor can she claim for gifts bought for you. She could claim for shared purchases etc. Consult a lawyer, many do a free 30min initial consultation. If they say it’s bullshit, call her bluff and let her waste her money. If she persists then ask previous lawyer about a restraining order.
/r/MensRights09/12/22 12:02 PM
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Oh look, it's another troll. Zero comment history or karma, account just setup to troll men justifiably worried about the lack of legal protection against paternity fraud. Go back to your safe space.
/r/AntiFeminists09/12/22 08:18 AM
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And this is why all men should DNA their kids at birth before signing anything.
/r/AntiFeminists08/12/22 06:57 PM
6

Oh they haven’t forgotten it, it’s just they’ve learned since then that they face no consequences for bad behaviour so they rationalise “why not do it”.
/r/MensRights06/12/22 04:35 PM
6

Stupid is as stupid does.
/r/AntiFeminists05/12/22 09:52 PM
3

Take the wins when you can, they are often few and far between.
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/22 05:48 PM
28

Immediately consult your lawyer and make sure that you cannot be named the father due to marriage. Some states have presumption of paternity for the husband. As you’ve been separated this should not apply but best to be 100% sure. Also do not offer to take the other kid when you have your own to stay. That child, whilst being a sibling of your own child, is not your responsibility and any interaction with it could make you liable for support if the “BF” bails on her. My friends ex tried this tri…
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/22 07:14 AM
0

I don't hate women...I just don't trust them either. I'm more than happy going my own way and being single. I have everything I need in life and see zero reason to complicate matters with a woman who, might just end up ruining it. I've been married (for 15yrs) , divorced and have kids, so that's it...I'm done as far as I'm concerned. I have zero intentions of getting married or living with a woman again, so what's the point in dating??? Until the legal framework changes to help protect against f…
/r/AntiFeminists05/12/22 07:01 AM
23

Many french men still do get self administered paternity tests, but they don't tell anyone except their lawyers..who then file for a court approved test. If you file in court a judge cannot deny you that right, so men must jump through the hoops in order to get the legal proof, even though they might already know the truth. I suppose one of the only positive outcomes would be a court recognised DNA test she cannot dispute in the divorce. The whole thing "illegal if you do it yourself or you need…
/r/MensRights05/12/22 06:50 AM
22

Hell naw.... If you wanted a "real" man, perhaps you should have thought about it before you let some irresponsible looser nut in you. Better yet YOU chose to carry his child to term, so the outcome lies 100% with you. Your mistake...your problem!!!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/22 03:19 PM
38

This. Asking for the Open relationship is usually one of the last stages. She's already cheated and this is her way of excusing her bad behaviour in her own mind. "I didn't cheat on him because we were in an open relationship...he just didn't know it at the time!".
/r/AntiFeminists02/12/22 03:10 PM
10

Man has some self-respect..kudos to him. No-one should have to accept that which makes them uncomfortable and unhappy. Better he leave his GF to have her 304 phase and find himself someone who can be loyal and appreciate him for who he is.
/r/AntiFeminists02/12/22 03:07 PM
2

If a woman who was a complete stranger just rocked up and asked me for sex I’d definitely say no. I mean, the first thing my brain is screaming at me is “where’s the catch?” It’s so far out of the norm that I be on guard instantly and wondering immediately what her game was. Am I going to get robbed, is she after a baby, will I get falsely accused??? In that instant my cost/risk analysis says RUN, get to da choppa (she’s a preditor).
/r/MensRights02/12/22 06:42 AM
2

The hair dye seeps into the brain and drives them mad.
/r/AntiFeminists01/12/22 10:25 PM
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The only thing he gets from girls is utter distain and disrespect. Guys like this never learn that women only like simps when they’re making bank out of them, they despise them and think they’re “creepy”. Meanwhile they chase chad and Tyrone who treat them like shit and don’t give a damn about them.
/r/AntiFeminists29/11/22 06:01 PM
63

Has she been paying CS whilst the child was with you? If not then she may owe you money and it could cancel out or she might in fact owe you. Get a lawyer and get investigating.
/r/MensRights29/11/22 08:13 AM
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100% dna test required. I very much doubt you are the father because modern vasectomies don’t just cut and tie the tubes, they usually cut, shorten and tie…meaning there is zero chance of the tubes rejoining without surgical intervention. She’s probably trying to baby trap you and has had another dude in the mix. Whatever your choice, a DNA test is a must. Oh and don’t accept her DNA test that she does herself, get it done at a doctors office so she cannot fake,lie or “adjust “ the results. Even…
/r/MensRights29/11/22 08:07 AM
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Personally I wouldn't touch one with a 10ft barge pole, but I'm a MGTOW and part of that outlook is understanding that every man has the right to make his own choices, but equally those choices come with consequences. If he wants to date/marry her...well it's his funeral. Plenty of evidence out there to prove it's a terrible idea, but sometimes there's no convincing people.
/r/AntiFeminists26/11/22 10:45 AM
8

Why exactly are OF girls victims? OF is not forcing them to expose themselves, and they pay extremely well. Many of these girls gave up very good jobs to become sex workers, they've become very rich. Your comment is just another example of why girls never take accountability for their choices and actions, there's always someone to pat them on the head and say "there there dear, it's not your fault".
/r/AntiFeminists26/11/22 06:20 AM
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and standards of what they will and won’t accept. Men should not be judged for refusing to date an OF girl. It doesn’t make us insecure, it’s just a rational decision not to get involved with someone who does sex work.
/r/AntiFeminists25/11/22 10:13 PM
3

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing multiple times and expecting different outcomes.
/r/Divorce_Men25/11/22 09:42 PM
18

Thing is fan’s will remember this and other Marvel crimes and when the MCU need to make big bucks on a mega movie (like Wakanda forever) they just won’t turn up. The movie then tanks, the studio books a huge loss and eventually the people who played games lose their jobs. They’re only trolling themselves because karma will find them eventually.
/r/MensRights25/11/22 06:17 AM
3

I’m also uk based. They grey divorce is not to be underestimated in its scope for destruction but IMHO its still worth it to get out. You cannot put a price on your sanity. I once described to a friend that being in a loveless, sexless marriage was the loneliest thing I’ve ever endured. There is nothing more soul crushing than lying in bed with a wife who doesn’t give a shit about you yet you know what damage will happen if you attempt to walk away. Devil and deep blue sea is about right. If you…
/r/Divorce_Men23/11/22 12:06 PM
3

Clearly she thinks of you as a safe bet. Never be a woman’s second choice.
/r/Divorce_Men22/11/22 10:11 PM
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I stayed in a sexless, loveless marriage because I foolishly thought that it was best for the kids and I owed them a two parent family. They are thriving now we are divorced, so that was a huge mistake. I should have left 5yr before I did. What broke the camels back was finding my wife was cheating on me with an old BF. I was tempted to try and work it out but a good friend got me away from the situation for a weeks break and that isolation gave me the headspace to take stock and realise that I …
/r/Divorce_Men22/11/22 04:57 PM
4

File for full custody and get her ass on child support immediately.
/r/Divorce_Men22/11/22 06:40 AM
42

Another misandrist rag put out a man hating article, well I’m shocked.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 06:30 AM
3

Does the mother pay child support, if not why not?
/r/Divorce_Men22/11/22 06:23 AM
0

I went to an all boys school. It was structured, disciplined and fostered an environment of hard work. Not a single issue with girls. My friend who went to a mixed said it was nothing but fights all the time ,usually over who was dating who.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 07:00 PM
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This isn’t a specifically black issue, the education sector as a whole fails boys and young men. Decades of pushing girls education to the exclusion of boys has led to a serious problem but feminists fight tooth and nail to prevent solutions being made.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 02:14 PM
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Not scared, more cannot be bothered with the bad attitudes, risk, entitlement and ungrateful behaviour. Women are the architects of their own misery. Don’t want to get pumped and dumped??…then stop chasing chads and players. It’s not rocket science.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 02:05 PM
12

As soon as you are divorced she is responsible for her own finances. She should not be on your insurance anymore. If she’s not paying then she shouldn’t be able to claim otherwise she could drive up your premiums.
/r/Divorce_Men21/11/22 02:03 PM
141

Because those subs are misandrist.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 11:59 AM
82

Yep, heard one last week. She wanted an open marriage and he rightfully he declined. She said that his refusal amounted to misogyny. It’s just another shaming tactic to try and force men to do something against their best interests.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 11:14 AM
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You never really know your wife’s true personality until you meet her in divorce court.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 05:21 PM
3

Had the same experience. Company was being bought out and job cuts were inevitable. I saw the writing on the wall and took voluntary redundancy instead as I knew the terms would be better. Still had no job. This happened two weeks after I discovered her cheating and asking me for a divorce. Just seemed like I couldn’t get my head above water. Eventually though it proved to be a good thing and my career went from strength to strength. Sometimes these obstacles are put in your path to test your me…
/r/Divorce_Men18/11/22 06:20 AM
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This is the way.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 09:05 PM
7

And you know what?…we’re all still waiting for you to do something. Oh yes, I forgot, it’s all just sound and fury signifying nothing. As usual they bitch and whine but do very little, just like the supposed sex strike after RvW was overturned. Lots of promises, no action.
/r/AntiFeminists17/11/22 10:07 AM
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So anything a woman does as part of a family setup “needs” to be paid, however anything a man does for his family’s (outside of his job) is his DUTY. If women want to be paid for housework then they can also pay taxes, rent, bills etc. You don’t get to live off someone else’s income, demand pay and then NOT pay your fair share. This is yet another example of women wanting to cherry pick the best and avoid paying for it. As soon as I pay my wife a wage, she becomes an employee and I should also h…
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/22 02:05 PM
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They are often horny as hell and they are very sexual but they use that to get you hooked on them to graft you into the provider role. As soon as you sign up, that sex disappears. Then they have you for potentially child support on a child that’s not even yours because you took on a fatherly role. It’s a bad deal all around. There are many more reasons…and plenty of YouTube channels that highlight the risks.
/r/Divorce_Men14/11/22 07:57 PM
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Usual feminist drivel. Men to blame for everything, women oppressed, if you’re not with us you’re against us etc etc etc. she even broke into racism with the jibe against specifically white men.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/11/22 03:08 PM
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This. She’s preparing to monkey branch, so remove her safe branch from under her.
/r/Divorce_Men13/11/22 02:39 PM
9

You don’t have to apologise for having preferences, no matter what women say. Some will attempt to shame you for having a preference for a younger woman, a slim woman etc…However we all know the 6ft rule for women!! If you have a preference then by all means stick to it, it’s your choice. Personally I’d rather date someone younger than me too. Just make sure you avoid the single mothers at all costs!!!
/r/Divorce_Men13/11/22 05:41 AM
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Aside from the obvious reasons why complicate your life when what you really need at this moment is simplicity? Bringing another person into your mess is unfair to them because you can’t give them your entire attention or time. Plus it would be awkward as all hell.
/r/Divorce_Men12/11/22 10:48 PM
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I gave up on SWAT after season one. The preaching and political messaging was off the scale. It was very anti white, anti men and the messaging gradually started to get more airtime than the action. Just go on IMDB and read the reviews for season 4, it was an utter woke dumpster fire.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 09:08 PM
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It should be that if the defendant has any family members that can step in with state support then the defendant must be sent to jail if a custodial sentence is imposed. We’ve seen plenty of examples of women getting pregnant after sentencing to avoid jail. It’s sad that this is a known get out of jail free card supported by the government.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 09:04 PM
23

Her dad needs to set her straight before she makes a huge mistake with someone who will defend himself.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/11/22 06:25 PM
137

Having kids is not a good reason to escape a prison sentence. Men have kids too but are banged up despite this. Yet another example of dual justice on display.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 06:22 PM
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Yes. Some women claim they suffer from depression due to bad body image caused by small breasts thus get them done on the NHS. Honestly it’s a scandal that it’s allowed. If you want it done, pay for it yourself but as all men know, women are the cheapest creatures on earth (as in they won’t pay for anything themselves if they can get someone else to do so for them).
/r/MensRights10/11/22 01:25 PM
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Good. No matter what your thoughts on it (mine are it should be banned unless you are an adult and can consent to it), it’s a huge waste of cash on a non medical procedure that is purely cosmetic. Breast enlargement should also not be funded by the taxpayer unless it’s for something like cancer reconstruction.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 08:28 AM
2

Glasgow has always been a shit hole tbh. Edinburgh not so much.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 09:48 PM
5

Depends where you live. I refused to pay for her lawyer fees and won that battle. As a result she was “encouraged financially” to not muck about and reach a settlement in a reasonable amount of time. Far too often women who can force their husbands to pay for the divorce play games and try to hurt him by racking up endless fees. It’s criminal and lawyers encourage it.
/r/Divorce_Men09/11/22 09:13 AM
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Another reason not to visit Scotland then.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 06:11 AM
36

This is yet another song sung by single, childless wall hitters…bitter because they don’t have the same options they did when young. The chads they chase don’t want them anymore so they try shaming them. You’d have thought they’d realise by now that chad don’t give a fuck what they say. Men are walking away in greater numbers because increasingly marriage and relationships are a ticket to ruin. I’d rather live a happy life on my terms than deal with misery on hers.
/r/MensRights08/11/22 06:15 PM
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In your place I would have probably done the same, not for her sake but for the kids/grandkids. However if there was cheating involved, especially if a lot of emotional and financial damage was done, then I would not allow it, no matter the cost. I think having her present in that situation, when you've literally been torn apart by the process, would be incredibly damaging to your mental health. In that scenario, I certainly could not take the higher road. I wouldn't be mean or spiteful but I wo…
/r/Divorce_Men07/11/22 11:41 AM
11

Ask yourself, if the situations were reversed...would she try and take you for every penny she could? Absolutely she would, so you do the same.
/r/Divorce_Men07/11/22 11:04 AM
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Yep. Use it as an excuse to try out new recipes or totally new cuisine. Make your own sushi, cook whole salmon or make pasta from scratch.
/r/Divorce_Men06/11/22 07:31 PM
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Why don’t you do it occasionally for friends as a social get together? That way you can still enjoy it.
/r/Divorce_Men06/11/22 07:24 PM
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Nope. Without men to do the hard work, the human race dies out within a generation, probably a lot less.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/11/22 11:57 AM
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Honestly I don’t look at the avatars. The advice still stands, people who cannot empathise enough to offer assistance don’t deserve assistance from others. Ok you’re too young to act on it now but just remember her words for future reference. There will be a time when she needs your help, guaranteed.
/r/MensRights31/10/22 05:31 PM
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Mine too thought she had it made with her exbf she cheated with. It lasted 6months and he took off. She mentioned reconciliation but I refused, I’d fully woken up by that stage and gone MGTOW. I still date but I’ll never marry or cohabitate again, just far too risky now. My kids are almost grown so really marriage has zero purpose for me. I always saw marriage as an environment for raising children. Now that I’m older and had the snip, there is zero reason for it anymore. Glad to hear you are do…
/r/Divorce_Men31/10/22 11:34 AM
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Tell that next time she needs your help....well she can just be stoic and deal with it herself.
/r/MensRights31/10/22 10:30 AM
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Nothing you do or say would ever have been enough for her. A woman's definition of "creepy and weird" is usually you not doing what she wants. What she wanted you to do was stand around and not talk, ie just be a prop for her to use to show what a good wife she is to her colleagues. I bet as soon as you left the polite company she was bad mouthing you and tearing you down? That classic abusive behaviour and fairly narcissistic. I'm glad you got out of it as being in a terrible relationship is ba…
/r/Divorce_Men31/10/22 10:09 AM
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I was almost exactly in your position dude. I was 38 when I found out my exw was cheating and had two kids under 10. TBH it was probably one of the best and worst things that ever happened to me. Worst for the obvious reasons, the self doubt, pain and uncertainty for the future plus the financial and emotional damage. Best because it forced me to take the next step in my life, one which has led to huge improvements. I was stuck in a job I hated but offered great security so I stayed to enable th…
/r/Divorce_Men31/10/22 08:54 AM
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I also love my kids deeply but feel the same as you. If I had my time again would I get married….HELL NO!!! If I could have done it without a wife I would have for sure.
/r/Divorce_Men30/10/22 09:05 PM
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That would be my guess too. She feels guilty about her cheating and knows that she doesn’t deserve his love, so she acts out and sabotages her marriage. Now that he’s finally got one foot out the door, she’s scared of what the future holds but can’t bring herself to beg for forgiveness.
/r/Divorce_Men30/10/22 08:21 PM
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Certainly not. My point is that Hollywood is very feminist so is unlikely to daemonise women. I think they instead will want to focus on the men’s actions and quietly sweep under the rug that it was a woman who started the whole episode.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 02:24 PM
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I think this is the story that many of us divorced guys recognise. Mine was also terminally lazy, at the end I was doing a full time job and the majority of the house work because I couldn’t stand living in a shit tip. I had to make sure the kids are healthy meals so I had to cook as she couldn’t cook for shit and they’d end up with microwave meals. Now that we’re divorced I have a clean, tidy house and hers has descended into utter chaos now that I’m no longer there to keep on top of everything…
/r/Divorce_Men30/10/22 12:51 PM
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I’m guessing white men will be portrayed as the evil doers, not that a white woman falsely accused an innocent man. Can’t have the blame fall where it truly belongs can we?
/r/MensRights30/10/22 07:52 AM
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Yep. Marriage used to put a lid on women’s hypergamy but as soon as no fault divorce happened and they realised that they could get the cash and prizes no matter what they did…..we’ll from that point forward, all bets were off and their true nature was let loose.
/r/Divorce_Men30/10/22 06:06 AM
1

This is exactly why Mgtow is growing.
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 10:39 AM
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Pretty sure that would earn you a ban, even though women do it openly enough.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 10:59 AM
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Anytime they label you with either of those terms usually means you didn’t cave to their demands, asked them to be accountable for their actions or take some form of responsibility for an outcome. It’s a standard shaming tactic meant to get you to respond in the way they want you to. Best thing you can do is ignore it and move on, they hate being ignored and seeing their tactics don’t work.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:50 AM
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Jesus that’s horrific.
/r/AntiFeminists27/10/22 10:47 AM
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Funny how the worms turns. She shacked up with a loser now wants you to fund their life...fuck that.
/r/Divorce_Men27/10/22 08:29 AM
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You can have an up vote from me. Reasonable doubt is the corner stone of legal protection. If we convicted on word alone it would be an utter disaster. If she has zero proof, zero evidence and an inconsistent story then the premise of innocence before guilt must be maintained. We cannot allow political expediency or feminist dogma to dictate the outcome of legal proceedings.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 06:35 AM
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Honestly I’ll never understand how girls can think they can get away with this shit in today’s world. Women no longer have chivalry to protect them from the consequences of their actions. If you hit a man better expect him to hit you back. Better yet, keep your hands to yourself.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/10/22 08:32 PM
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I agree with the message we should all strive to be better men FOR OURSELVES. Each man has the right to decide his own destiny and path, that does not mean fitting into the role of provider and protector for a world that spits on us and uses us as disposable beings. Women have exactly the same rights as us, it’s time they also took on equal responsibilities and duties. What irks most men about the current climate is that women feel they can demand special treatment and they don’t have to adhere …
/r/MensRights26/10/22 11:23 AM
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Tough situation. You may have to accept a lower offer to offload the house. Nesting or one of you remaining in the house is a terrible idea. It’s almost guaranteed to invoke fighting and kill any chance of a peaceful coparenting arrangement. The only time I’ve seen that work was he moved out to a rental flat and they had a legal agreement to deduct the cost of rental from the sale of the house prior to the division of the profits. That way neither was out of pocket and both had an incentive to s…
/r/Divorce_Men26/10/22 10:59 AM
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Yes he will sadly. If I was him I’d be more concerned about false accusations as she’s proven she’s not above going to extreme lengths to get what she wants. I’m guessing that she’s also the vengeful kind too.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 04:17 PM
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So basically she baby trapped you. Now she gets to extort you for money and commitment. If she’s willing to go that far, what else would she be capable of doing? IMHO you need to get as far away from this woman as possible.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 12:06 PM
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Simply asking women be responsible for the outcomes of their own choices and actions is deemed misogynistic apparently.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 05:06 PM
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She is trying to control your life. She actively telling you she wants you to stop doing something that you love doing, something she obviously KNEW you were into before you got married. Women always try and change you into their “perfect man”, which often make her lose interest. They key is to alway resist this change, otherwise you will surrender everything about yourself to keep her happy. This is not the way to live. If she cannot accept your hobby then tough. I’m sure there’s plenty she doe…
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/22 04:16 PM
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Luckily mine were quite grown up when my ex and I split so they were independent and could phone me whenever they wanted. Now they’re teens it’s a different dynamic. If I had to say goodbye to them when they were very young it would have killed me.
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/22 04:04 PM
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Came here to say exactly this. She’s trying to grift him for sure.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/22 03:55 PM
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And this is why I wouldn’t piss on a feminist if she were on fire. Blinkered to the point of cruelty. Unless you’re totally in agreement with their views you are the enemy, and even then as a male you’re automatically an evil privileged oppressor. Even a male tramp in the gutter has more privileges than women according to their warped views. They are nothing more than a man hating cult.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 03:49 PM
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Hope you’ve learned something from this. Don’t get married again!!!
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/22 12:09 PM
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It's always darkest before the dawn....this is especially true of divorce when you can't see the possibility of happiness, but when it does arrive it's pure joy. The thing that struck me most was , like the OP, the peace and quiet, the lack of nagging and that ever present dread of an impending argument if I was a minute longer late than I estimated.
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/22 11:43 AM
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As other have eluded to, this is yet another "shit test". She's hoping that you're weak and will retract the divorce. If you do she'll have even less respect for you and things will only get worse in the long term. The only answer is to go through with the divorce and if she's really serious about you, then you both can work on it fresh with zero legal axes held over your head. Personally once a betrayal has happened I do not forgive nor forget. Even if my exw became a born again saint I wouldn'…
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/22 11:38 AM
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Yep. Had mine done when my two kids were little. I decided I didn’t want anymore so took matters into my own hands. I split from my wife soon after so was glad that once I started dating again that I wasn’t going to get taken advantage of. If they asked I would always be honest about it. Anytime things got remotely serious or she expressed a desire to have kids I would say something. Some girls walked away, others stuck around, but it was always their choice. I was VERY clear that a reversal was…
/r/MensRights23/10/22 07:43 PM
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So now unless you pander to every financial demand she can literally have you killed by the state and no one will care. This is just appalling. No wonder young men are fleeing the country in hundreds of thousands. I hope any mother who grasses their ex husband up goes onto realise the folly of that action. When he’s dead and the country is broke and in ruins, good luck getting any money from the state you shopped him to. You just cut off your nose to spite your face.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 12:46 PM
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Of course they don't complain. After all if it goes wrong they can sell that diamond. Ok they might get 50c on the dollar, but if you were foolish to sink $20000 into it, she still gets a $10k payout and move on to the next sucker. Rinse and repeat for a nice little earner. Serial engagements are a real thing.....it's a legally acceptable grift. Just try and legally get that ring back....if she doesn't want to give it back you have zero hope.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 07:01 AM
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I consider myself a moderate MGTOW, in that I still have relations with women. It's not women I have a problem with, it's the institution of marriage and the legal system that decimates men in family court. If that was fixed and we had a truly equitable system, one whereby infidelity was punished, then I think I might consider marriage again. However as it stands today, it's just far too risky and I'm not prepared to potentially ruin my future and retirement on such a dangerous path.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 06:43 AM
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We can’t tell but we think she might have deliberately used an old address of his to “run out the clock” because he got zero letters and zero warning. The first he knew of it was a line on his payslip.
/r/Divorce_Men21/10/22 05:08 PM
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Some friends and I are arranging for some cash in hand work at weekend’s to help cover the shortfall. Just building work, gardening and handyman work. We have a close circle so will support him until this gets resolved. I think between all of us we have him covered without any hardship for any individual, but it’s going to cost him more in stress and tiredness. Thankfully a lawyer friend has offered to probono his case as a favour so at least he’s not going to be out of pocket on legal fees beyo…
/r/Divorce_Men21/10/22 03:21 PM
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I think I knew my marriage was done for when on my 40th I got a card...and that was it. A cheap $3 card from the gas station...not even taken out for a meal. In fact I was expected to cook on that day. I remember it well as she had not done the shopping, despite being home all day, making me go up the store when I got home from work. I bought myself a bottle of whisky and stayed up all night, she never even noticed. That's when it truly sunk in that she just didn't give a shit anymore.
/r/Divorce_Men20/10/22 08:18 PM
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You need to pull that ripcord asap, before the 10yr marker. At least if you get out now you'll only have 3.5yrs of alimony and no child support. You might get out without financial ruin. If you can amicably divide the assets and get that agreement ratified by the courts...go for it. It's always better that you both walk away with an agreed amount rather than let the blood sucking lawyers get most of it in fee's.
/r/Divorce_Men20/10/22 08:39 AM
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This is the sad reality that most men go through. It's painfully funny because it's true, pressured into marriage & kids...then comes the cheating and divorce rape. She ends up with the house, cars and savings, whilst he gets to pay through the nose, living in a tiny flat. She alienates the kids from him whilst screwing around with multiple men. I've seen it happen many times. There is a very good reason why the male suicide risk is highest around ages 35-45, it's exactly when the above scenario…
/r/EverydayMisandry20/10/22 08:35 AM
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Tell that to the men of Ukraine who have been Called up ages 18-60. If WW3 were to kick off and NATO to go into Eastern Europe and suffer heavy casualties, you better believe that the draft will be reintroduced.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/22 11:44 AM
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I'm pretty sure it's illegal in most western countries....
/r/MensRights19/10/22 04:46 AM
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Well done bro, glad you came out the other side whole. Now just remember NOT to do it again, no matter how tempting. There will come a time when a pretty girl turns your head (being early 30's you're in zone for being a prime target for single mothers and childless pre-wall women) ...always remember the pain and damage a divorce causes...and vow to yourself never to go there again. Just think how much worse it is when kids and lots of assets are involved.
/r/Divorce_Men19/10/22 04:43 AM
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As others have said, way too soon but I think you know that too. As for letting your ex know just remember that you are no longer beholden to her nor required to have her consent for anything anymore. Inform her politely but do not let her give any conditions at all. What you do with your kids on your time is your business not hers. Exactly the same as you have zero right to say what she does with them on her time. She may try to pull some bullshit, depending upon how bad the breakup was, but st…
/r/Divorce_Men18/10/22 11:34 AM
91

Well done him....one can hope this has a chilling effect on title IX abuse, but I doubt it will.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 08:43 AM
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I bet she’s blaming it all on a man and saying she was manipulated. Either that or pump out a few kids to avoid jail.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/10/22 05:20 AM
3

I wouldn’t consider that a negative. I’d certainly ask about it but I’d rather people not over share personal lives online, especially when it could reflect badly on our company.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 05:46 PM
7

I can second the grey rock approach, it really works, not only for your sanity but also for boundary setting and making her aware that actions have consequences. When my ex cheated and declared she wanted a divorce I went grey rock. Told her my ONLY concern was the kids and myself from that moment forward, that she could do whatever the fuck she wanted but I was done with her and being a cook/cleaner etc. I said I will cook for the kids and myself (she couldn’t cook for shit, so I had to do it a…
/r/Divorce_Men17/10/22 02:52 PM
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Your clocks are ticking ladies, and the Internet is forever. It is not fine. Too right. My company uses an external agency to background check potential employees and has already found several OF girls. They're instantly removed from consideration, even if they've interviewed really well. GONE immediately. Girls, that easy cash flashing your rusty sheriff's badge might be good now, but as you age out, no man is going to take you seriously, no employer is going to treat you seriously...you just r…
/r/MensRights17/10/22 06:10 AM
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First thing is to remove the contact between her and her father. Contact a lawyer and file a restraining order against him. Zero contact with her, your kids and yourself. You should be able to get it filed on her behalf if your legal team explain to the judge the circumstances and that she is incapable of doing so herself. If he reaches out again...back to jail for him. Second she needs long, detailed and exhaustive therapy. You have to face it, she may NEVER get back to who you knew. This trigg…
/r/Divorce_Men17/10/22 05:59 AM
-2

Then you’ll have to pay for it yourself. If you’re not a UK citizen then it would be unfair to expect us to foot the bill but by the sounds of it you’re already doing that elsewhere now.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 06:29 PM
2

Welcome to the red pill. You've started your RP education and will graduate shortly upon receipt of your divorce papers. Just remember that disgusted feeling you have reading/watching those clips every time you have a urge to get into a relationship again.
/r/Divorce_Men15/10/22 05:40 PM
8

UK resident here. The NHS has its good points but is also massively dysfunctional in many respects. True it's free at the point of use, but that also means we get inundated by health tourists and scroungers draining the system that the tax payer pays into. It's also rife with political correctness and useless middle management types. This is why I pay for private medical insurance for myself and my kids, if you can afford it, it's best to curve the NHS if at all possible.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 05:30 PM
77

Just remember this moment when she hits hard times and has her hand out.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 05:27 PM
8

Firstly, no therapist is ever going to allow her to see your session notes. That’s highly confidential and even your agreement would not allow her access imho. Secondly the refusal to allow you to date is HIGHLY manipulative. She is seeking to alienate you from your child and will use any excuse (another woman) as a reason to do this. Time to lawyer up and fight her hard. Show you will not be bullied by her and stand up for not only your rights but the right of your child to have a father in the…
/r/Divorce_Men14/10/22 10:41 AM
17

Total white knight fail. If there’s one thing women hate more than toxic men it’s beta simps. They have ZERO respect for a man who panders and grovels.
/r/AntiFeminists13/10/22 07:45 PM
183

Yet another 304 looking for someone else to pay. When a woman/girl asks for money that’s an instant disqualification for GF status. Girls that ask for money in return for their time have a name….prostitute.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/10/22 06:34 AM
2

Yes I’ve read about that before. I have a friend who is a family lawyer in my country who keeps me up to date with all the case law related stuff. If there was a change or someone made case law that could affect me, he’d give me the heads up. That would be the moment I dip out.
/r/MensRights13/10/22 05:50 AM
22

Never date a garden tool.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/10/22 05:25 PM
2

That’s the nail on the head….opportunity. With the current legal climate being so very bad for men, why even take the risk? When she has little to no downside to misbehaving and dragging you through the courts why would she not take advantage if she can?
/r/Divorce_Men12/10/22 02:34 PM
23

Just don’t get married. It’s not worth the risk anymore. Lots of guys marry girls from abroad thinking they won’t change but once they get a taste of that lifestyle they become just like western women and you end up divorced again. Don’t do it.
/r/Divorce_Men12/10/22 11:55 AM
8

I would consider myself mgtow, yet I have a GF. She doesn't live with me, and never will (I've made that very clear). I told her right from the start that living together, marriage and children were an absolute no go for me (I'm divorced and have kids already...don't want any more) and that she's free to leave the relationship anytime she wants with no hard feelings if my boundaries no longer meet her life goals. I'm now living and having relationships on MY terms, not what others want me to do …
/r/MensRights12/10/22 11:47 AM
5

I switched out her laptop for just this reason, to prove she was cheating. ExW always treated her laptop like shit, so I KNEW she'd jump at the offer of a new one (reconditioned unit from work...cost me nothing). I gave her the new one knowing she'd just give me her old laptop. Sure enough EVERYTHING was still signed in, so I could watch her FB messenger, emails etc all in real time. Everything was there, dates, times, locations of hookups, everything!!! When I presented her the evidence, she ac…
/r/Divorce_Men12/10/22 08:29 AM
12

Yep...ditto. 2yrs post divorce when she got dumped and I'd just moved into a new house in a great neighbourhood...here she comes. "I think we should get back together for the kids". I just laughed and walked away....the look on her face was priceless. Bitch, you think I want a cheating, fat, lazy, messy, wall-hitting woman....when I have financial security, peace, abundance of free time and a quiet home...REALLY???????
/r/Divorce_Men12/10/22 08:22 AM
8

She sounds like the typical, childish, entitled female. Can't stick at anything, always unhappy with everything, lazy, messy and acts like a 5yr old. You need to do a couple of things: Limit access to the money and credit - don't let her clean you out. Secure 1/2 the savings, only deposit half your pay into joint account etc. Cancel or freeze all credit / store cards. Get a separation order in place - this will set a legal boundary in place for the financial separation I take it from the whole "…
/r/Divorce_Men12/10/22 07:27 AM
21

Exactly the same prison sentence as male rapists.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 07:56 PM
25

You’d be surprised dude. There are women like this who honestly believe that they are gods gift.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/10/22 05:29 AM
6

Yours is a song that we, as divorced men, have heard a million times. It's an old song, changed up many times but also remains the same. Women cheat and monkey branch because at their core they are hypergamous. They cheat for the tingles not necessarily for a better outcome. One thing we've learned is that emotion overrules everything for them. She probably knows that divorce will lead to a worse outcome...but she just doesn't care as long as she gets her tingles and her back blown out by chad. …
/r/Divorce_Men09/10/22 05:00 AM
29

Don’t flip the switch….get out. If she’s done this once, she’ll do it again. Do you really want to waste your life on someone who obviously sees you as a second option ? The only sensible option is for you to drive the divorce forward. Don’t rely upon her to do anything, you file and you make the settlement demands. You need to show her that your in charge and that she no longer has any hold over you.
/r/Divorce_Men08/10/22 07:42 PM
4

It’s already entrenched here in the UK.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 12:20 PM
38

This is the great thing about the mgtow community and movement, it doesn’t require anything but your own choices. So what if the government decides we’re all evil…that’s NOT a going influence me into not being single. Nor is it going to convince me to put women first. I’ll just continue to look after myself and ignore women, they cannot legislate that. If they tried a single man tax, I’d just leave. A lot of this social programming stuff relies heavily upon your capitulation, but if you ignore i…
/r/MensRights07/10/22 07:09 AM
35

Exactly. Aliens is one of, if not the greatest action movie of all time.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 02:35 PM
13

That is so fucked up. So she's a lazy bitch, and he works hard to better his and his kids life.....and he gets punished for doing so, whilst she gets an easy ride through life.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 01:58 PM
17

I'd go one step further and have a CSA payment card linked to the fathers CS. The mother can only spend the CS on that card and BOTH parents have access to the spending records. Therefore he can check up that his CS is going to support his child, NOT pay for her handbags, shoes and her days out with Chad. Miss-use of the fund on anything not directly related to the child will result in a reduction of CS.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 01:56 PM
226

Men don’t hate female characters, but we do object to woke characters and bad script writers.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 12:19 PM
99

Just when you think you've seen the worst profile online dating has to offer....along comes another one to raise the bar on crazy....
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 11:40 AM
27

Ah one of the standard deflection tactics, meant to put you on the defensive and excuse her bullshit: You must hate women! Who hurt you? Are you gay? You're not man enough to handle me! I want a man not a boy. You just picked the wrong type of woman. All men are pigs All men are abusers There are many variations on the above themes, but they all have the aim of her not having to accept responsibility for her own failings. For example, you point out that she always picks ass-holes, thus always ge…
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 10:53 AM
6

Another reason to avoid dating in the modern world...
/r/MensRights04/10/22 08:26 AM
48

I wouldn't bother watching it. First season was ok, but it went seriously downhill after that. By season 4 basically every episode is full on social justice programming and indoctrination. White people bad, white men evil, women held down, all whites are racist...I kid you not, it's blatant and deliberate almost every moment of every episode. Just take a look at IMDB user comments on this show for the true picture. This is a showcase of leftie Hollywood gone mad. This entire episode (shown above…
/r/AntiFeminists03/10/22 05:42 AM
16

All it took was a single cheating instance for me to hate my exw, but it had been a long road of alcohol abuse, sexless marriage, laziness, refusal to clean up after herself....basically a long string of triggers. Whilst I was willing to work on those aspects with her, the cheating with an ex BF was unforgivable. My love for her had faded over many yrs of her indifference, but had hardened into hate at that point. I used that hate as fuel for the process of separation and moving on, it gave me t…
/r/Divorce_Men03/10/22 05:31 AM
25

Jesus. This smacks of complete incompetence by the officers at the scene. One bit of questioning would be all it took to establish what happened, after all her friend was the first to find her and call for help. To arrest innocent men for murder is highly inappropriate. Those officers need to be retrained or removed. Yet again, guilty until proven innocent for men it seems.
/r/MensRights03/10/22 05:14 AM
7

Begone thot.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/10/22 08:32 AM
3

Has she paid any child support during the separation? If not you want to slap her with a CS order and back payments. I’m guessing she probably hasn’t as women seem to think they don’t need to pay CS as that’s “the man’s job”. The courts don’t take kindly to parents not living up to their obligations so make sure the court knows about her lack of support.
/r/Divorce_Men01/10/22 06:50 AM
17

This. Most of the current societal issues stem from delinquency caused by fatherless homes. Fatherlessness and education are the two pillars of the current lack of mens progress.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 06:46 AM
1

Oh that’s right, blame it on someone else and never accept responsibility for your own actions.
/r/MensRights30/09/22 08:53 PM
20

It’s a similar story to Cassie Jaye (minus the ending). Took the time and opportunity to see how men think and feel and ends up changing their opinion. If only more people would take the time to analyse their own prejudices. Sadly in this case it had a tragic end but kudos to her for bringing attention to mens issues and dispelling some of the feminist mantra about men.
/r/AntiFeminists30/09/22 08:45 PM
19

I don’t think he means sex. He means basic human connection and feeling valued and wanted. These guys are isolated from even basic human contact which is a biological need in most species.
/r/MensRights30/09/22 06:34 PM
7

Because they want to. They hate men...simple.
/r/AntiFeminists30/09/22 09:48 AM
94

Because they’re easy targets and it’s always beneficial for some groups to blame those who cannot fight back.
/r/MensRights30/09/22 04:59 AM
74

If you're out on a date and she goes all in on the menu, ordering the most expensive stuff, you know she's just a gold digging foodie dater. Politely excuse yourself to go to the toilet, head to the till, pay for your own half of the bill and leave. Make sure you explain to the waiting staff and tip them generously. They will understand that you're not an ass-hole, they've probably seen this dozens of times before. Have them kindly explain to your "date" she must pay her own bill. Make sure you …
/r/PussyPassDenied30/09/22 02:50 AM
19

Then you have your answer, she's involved with someone else. A wise man once said if she's not sleeping with you, she's sleeping with someone else...bank on it. Women are hypergamous and monkey branch meaning she won't ditch you until she's sure the other man will take her. The keeping tally and being weird with money is because she's starting to track expenses for the divorce. I'd put money on she has already retained a lawyer. Best thing you can do now is lawyer up yourself and beat her to the…
/r/Divorce_Men30/09/22 02:40 AM
10

So when women want to remove men from their lives, they're separatist and empowered, but when men want to do the same (MGTOW) they're incels and toxic? Right......
/r/AntiFeminists30/09/22 02:30 AM
11

Yeah I read that. The feminists in charge were all up in outrage and thinking about banning men from “importing“ wives. In that case men just refuse to marry at all or leave the country altogether and it go’s down the shitter.
/r/MensRights29/09/22 10:31 AM
16

Feminist government encouraged huge amounts of immigrants from the Middle East to settle. The immigrants promptly went on a rampage of sexual assault and rape against Swedish women. The rate of sexual assault sky rocketed and a lot of women feel they cannot go out at night. So a feminist gov actually made living conditions worse for women, yet having a feminist gov was lauded as a triumph by Swedish women.
/r/MensRights29/09/22 05:08 AM
17

No. I learned my lesson the first time around. I’d rather chop off my privates than get married again.
/r/Divorce_Men28/09/22 05:45 PM
22

What’s happened in Sweden is a prime example of “be careful what you wish for. “
/r/MensRights28/09/22 05:41 PM
5

I bet he drinks lots of soy latte's.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 05:02 PM
4

Rumours are that Putin will seal the Russian boarder end of this month and only a pass from the ministry of defence will get you through. Airlines are already being told not to offer flights to 18-60yr old men. I think there will be a huge crackdown internally meaning the ability to protest will be hugely curbed.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 04:28 PM
9

Unless you can open the boarders, change the laws in those countries…no there is almost zero you can do. The mainstream media has very little (almost zero) interest in mens problems, only on how it might affect women, so even shouting from the rooftops has no effect. The only way it will stop is when the Russian people backed by the military stage a coop and throw Putin out of power. Don’t hold your breath for that to happen anytime soon.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 04:08 PM
57

All by design. It’s practically the leftist manifesto. Tearing down the family structure is how they divide and conquer.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 04:04 PM
2

The feminists tried this in the UK when the gov made retirement age the same, they lost every court case and the screeching was biblical. I'll try and find it but there was a news anchor that asked one of these feminists why they didn't support equality under the law in this case....you could practically hear her brain failing on camera.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 07:14 AM
27

If your GF or wife suggests an open relationship, you dump them on the spot...always. It means they have cheated on you or are thinking of doing so. Either way the relationship is dead and they cannot be trusted anymore. From that point forward your only job is to get out as cleanly as you can. I've never dated a feminist, nor would I. The moment they mentioned the 1st bit of dogma I'd end it. I did have a friend who was serious with a feminist once, and the level of manipulation and gas lightin…
/r/MensRights27/09/22 06:02 AM
116

It’s back to the old Stalinist way of operating.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 11:18 AM
1

Nothing wrong with having the urge as long as you have the willpower and character to be able to override it whenever you need to. It takes a strong man to rationally analyse a situation and decide to walk away. For example a woman is offering easy sex and encourages you go raw dog. Most young men might leap at the chance but those of us in the know would see this as a potential baby trap and walk away. Having the ability to rationalise is what separates us from animals. It’s not wrong to want t…
/r/MensRights22/09/22 10:47 AM
3

My own exw did this exact scenario. We had a dead bedroom due to her lack of effort and excuses, but as soon as we split she found a BF. Initially I was a bit hurt, not because I was still hung up on her, but because she lied to me. She said she didn't want sex with ANYONE anymore, where in reality she just didn't want it with me. As soon as I processed that and accepted it, no more issues. I have total apathy towards what she does now, as long as it doesn't affect me or our children. Like you I…
/r/Divorce_Men22/09/22 10:27 AM
1

She just doesn't want to pay the bills.....I think the disruption to the kids has very little to do with it. Kids adapt very quickly to the new normal, and whilst there can be some short term issues, by and large if both parents can co-parent well...the kids will be happy with 2 homes.
/r/Divorce_Men22/09/22 09:40 AM
1

Ah the old shaming tactics, “you’d do this for me IF you were a gentleman!”
/r/PussyPassDenied21/09/22 05:38 PM
1

Dead shark eyes.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/09/22 05:36 PM
6

The whole dog thing is just to cause you pain, she probably doesn’t really care for it that much but the opportunity presented itself to hurt you, so she went for it.
/r/Divorce_Men21/09/22 05:33 PM
7

Not hard to guess huh? 😂
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/09/22 04:41 PM
3

I've also noticed that the current trend of "female empowerment" movies/tv all have strong female leads that NEVER go through any growth or have to overcome adversity...they are portrayed as "perfect" from the get go. I think this is the reason why these shows fail so often. Not only is the political messaging extremely unwelcome to most people who just want to have a bit of escapism, but the characters are entirely unrealistic and feel fake. The heroes journey is something we can all relate to,…
/r/MensRights21/09/22 07:47 AM
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"For every action there is an equal, yet opposite reaction" Seems simple enough. If you hate on men constantly eventually there will be a push back and they will "hate" on you. Rather than hate I prefer the use of indifference. Nothing drives these types madder than not engaging, walking away and removing yourself from the pool of potential cucks. It really is the best strategy. MGTOW was banned for a reason...it's the best path for men in today's world, which is why it's so dangerous to the est…
/r/MensRights21/09/22 07:26 AM
26

That would require introspection,being honest with oneself and accepting responsibility for her actions......NEVER going to happen!! We all know reason and accountability are a woman's Kryptonite.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/09/22 07:20 AM
6

Things is….men want a PARTNER through life and most modern women choose to treat their men like it some sort of competition. Rather than working together for the betterment of both, each bringing their own unique skills and talents to the whole, they see it as if he’s doing well it must mean I’m not, thus it becomes a grievance fest and competition. Even if he’s the only one working, they expect him to do half the housework whilst she lives a life of luxury. Most men i know would love to meet a …
/r/MensRights19/09/22 02:48 PM
21

He was like “nice rack….but the rent stays the same!!!!” Lol. Denied. 😂😂😂
/r/PussyPassDenied18/09/22 02:41 PM
72

Makes rules for betas, but breaks them for alphas. If she’s not banging you, she’s getting her back broke by some other dude(s).
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/09/22 02:52 PM
74

What sort of idiot goes out without any money or means to pay for anything?….Oh yeah, an entitled female leech that’s who! Would she go out with friends without means to pay? Would she go shopping with her parents without any means to pay? Why is it that these women think they’re entitled to a free ride on mens dime when we don’t even know them? I certainly would never pay for a woman’s bill on the first or any other date, go Dutch or go home.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 04:57 AM
0

They want to be part of the peace process so they can get the applause, but they absolutely refuse (with a very rare few exceptions) to be part of the DEFENCE of that peace. It's men who get drafted, fight and die in the fields of Ukraine not women, yet they want the glory and praise.
/r/MensRights14/09/22 03:55 PM
51

Thirst trap denied.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/09/22 03:51 PM
1

Probably because she NEEDS to paint herself in the best light. An impartial view might expose a lot of negative stuff.
/r/MensRights12/09/22 09:45 AM
8

I don't understand why you got down voted...what you said is truth. It's harmful, demoralising and makes men turn inwards when they're endlessly rejected. Likewise it give women an over inflated sense of self. It's toxic all the way around.
/r/MensRights12/09/22 08:57 AM
25

Of course they are...it's yet another shaming tactic to try and force you to do what they want. The correct response it ALWAYS do what you originally planned to.
/r/MensRights12/09/22 07:07 AM
33

This is why when it's done...it's DONE. Never be "friends" with an ex, she'll just use you as an emotional tampon, orbiter or as a tool for validation....all of which is no good for you. Just end it and move on, block and ghost and never look back. This dude dodged a nuclear missile with this one...she's batshit crazy and he would do well just to ignore everything from now on. My exw used to send me walls of text like this whenever she was pissed off about something. I learned very early on to j…
/r/PussyPassDenied12/09/22 07:04 AM
14

This shows what I have believed for many yrs...that it's in fact MEN who show empathy and care, not women. Men will help out both genders, in fact most men will leap to the defence of men, women, dogs, cats etc...basically anything that requires help. Women will only help out when they "feel" like it, or it benefits them in some way. Women rarely, if ever, will spring to the defence of a man, or even another woman if she's being threatened, rather wanting to rely upon a man to step in. It remind…
/r/MensRights12/09/22 04:43 AM
0

Lol...everyone knows the sexlife DIES after marriage. Even the finest p sleeve in the world isn't worth the pain and ruin of a divorce.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/22 01:41 PM
2

That’s alway the best route. Live, be happy and succeed…when she eventually hits Rock bottom it’ll drive her mad that you’re doing great.
/r/Divorce_Men11/09/22 10:45 AM
15

Like others have said...it's projection. She's likely cheating or has already made up her mind to cheat and is making stuff up in her mind, that you're the bad guy, that you don't do anything for her...in order o justify her feelings and not make her feel bad. It's a classic form of self dillusion whereby she makes her fantasy real, namely that you are the bad guy thus deserve all the ill will she can muster. The reality is at 34 and with 3 kids, no one is gong to look at her twice beyond a quic…
/r/Divorce_Men11/09/22 05:28 AM
5

And women file for divorce 80% of the time, perhaps we should introduce a law banning women from filing? See how that works? Sexism seems only to be wrong when it’s against men.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 04:25 PM
8

Wondering if the feminists are going to protest this? It wouldn't surprise me to find some sort of protest going on....
/r/MensRights10/09/22 07:21 AM
9

Saying he is excluded from the job because of his sex is illegal under the law. I hope he takes them to the cleaners.
/r/MensRights08/09/22 02:26 PM
1

I don’t waste my time worrying about people that are obviously damaged and crazy lol.
/r/MensRights08/09/22 01:39 PM
1

I pay them no mind.
/r/MensRights08/09/22 01:12 PM
5

If it’s your property (even joint Marital property if car is in her name) it’s perfectly legal to track it. On the subject of your wife, it’s obvious she doesn’t respect you and is totally fine with cheating and lying, so the question you need to be asking is “when to start divorce proceedings?”
/r/Divorce_Men08/09/22 09:43 AM
18

Alimony is unfair full stop 🛑.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 11:46 AM
64

Exactly. You get paid what you negotiate for. She had no right to demand the same as him, she can ASK nicely and the studio can decide if she’s worth it. He’s a much bigger box office star than her, has a huge portfolio of critically acclaimed work and can pull in far more profit fire a studio. An actor/actresses pay should be directly linked to their earning ability for the studio.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 07:54 PM
4

Yep…grey man routine is the way to go.
/r/Divorce_Men05/09/22 05:35 PM
2

Because most of those articles about men staying single and refusing to marry are written BY WOMEN. Of course they're not going to say the actual reason...that would require things to change not in their favor.
/r/MensRights05/09/22 12:19 PM
26

And the moral of the story gents? Always keep your protection guarded, always use your own protection and dispose of that protection yourself in such a way as it cannot be recovered and used to self impregnate. Wrap it in toilet paper and flush it, making sure it is well gone, or (if at her house) tie it up and take it home with you. The method I think is best is to wash it out in the sink afterwards, then wrap and flush. that way zero sperm remains in the condom, even if it floats back around t…
/r/MensRights05/09/22 11:58 AM
2

I would not be surprised if your ex penned that email.
/r/Divorce_Men05/09/22 10:42 AM
15

I was my most lonely during marriage. There is nothing worse that lying next to the woman you love, who offers you zero affection (no sex, no cuddles, no kisses...nothing, like I'm just a roommate)...it's the loneliest feeling in the world. Thank god I'm now divorced and free of that. I'd rather be single and somewhat lonely (I'm not at all, I'm very busy and have a great life now) than deal with the crushing feelings of being with someone right next to you and still all alone.
/r/Divorce_Men05/09/22 06:29 AM
35

She wants out...the republican thing is just a smoke screen to paint you as a deplorable and garner sympathy and support from like-minded people. She's hoping that by constantly poking you and picking fights you will respond or snap and then she's got a DV claim against you to ream you in court and take everything. This is an old tactic and sadly one that often works. The best thing you can do is start to record everything, keep a diary of when she picks fights. If you live in a state that allow…
/r/Divorce_Men05/09/22 06:18 AM
24

I had a GF a long time ago (way before I made the mistake of getting married) who was VERY materialistic. Sadly my father passed when I was 22 and left me a large amount of money. She wanted me to spend it on clothes, cars, jewellery etc. When I refused she said I was being "financially abusive" and controlling. She was my GF for exactly the next 5mins as I dumped her then and there. When she calls you abusive, what it really means is you won't allow her to do what she wants, normally at YOUR ex…
/r/Divorce_Men05/09/22 06:04 AM
4

Taking responsibility and accountability for one's own actions is a modern woman's kryptonite.
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/22 03:37 PM
2

If you can download it somehow and keep it safe, I would do that. Not for inane shit, but if she defames you, makes shit up or otherwise does something actionable...it's best you keep that evidence.
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/22 03:34 PM
25

This. Your daughter needs to learn that actions have consequences (a VERY good life lesson) and that she cannot disrespect you and still benefit from your patronage financially. Cut off her access to money and the car and directly tell her that she will not get support if she is abusive and disrespectful towards you. Also cut your sisters out of your life completely, anyone who would side with an ex over family is NOT family you want around you. As for your ex...file a restraining order ASAP. Ab…
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/22 02:53 PM
15

And this is why sensible men no longer even think about marriage.
/r/MensRights03/09/22 05:38 PM
36

She’s placed her son in the son/husband role as see’s his moving on as a betrayal much like if her real husband had left for another woman. This is what single mothers do to their sons. She’ll make his life hell now and probably break up his relationship eventually.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 10:32 AM
3

This is why you never ever shit on your own door step. Never get involved with coworkers. Always keep personal and professional separate.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 10:43 AM
46

Evil personified. She knew who his father was but wanted that sweet child support cash. What's the bet the real dad is a deadbeat who can't afford to help out? She basically stitched up a good man she knew had resources and put him in jail.....pure fucking evil. This is why you ALWAYS insist on a DNA test before any CS is paid. "Momma's baby..pappa's maybe"...
/r/AntiFeminists31/08/22 01:09 PM
6

The only thing a pre-nup is useful for is seeing exactly who your fiance really is BEFORE you sign. Most pre-nups will be thrown out or ignored by a judge due to a combination of "signed under duress" or badly drawn up. Either way they cannot (and should not) be counted upon to save you from ruin. If your significant other goes crazy or mad when you bring up a pre-nup, that is a clear sign that she's probably NOT marriage material.
/r/MensRights31/08/22 05:34 AM
15

Personally id jump ship and move to another country where she can’t get her hand in my pocket anymore. Your kids are grown so that’s not such an issue anymore. Take what cash you have, liquidate everything else and go live a happy life elsewhere. Not sure how practical this is,but I’ve heard of men doing it to escape a blood sucking ex.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 05:03 AM
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It’s a form of control. She wants to control what you do and when. Like you said it doesn’t really matter what it is you’re doing, if it’s not what she wants then it’s wrong. This is NOT ok. You are an adult and free to make your own choices. As long as all chores are done and you’re not totally ignoring time together then having a little downtime is often quite therapeutic. My ex used to do this to me too. I asked her why she wanted me to stop doing the things I loved?Her response was very tell…
/r/MensRights29/08/22 02:35 PM
8

Want to win…be a better candidate!!! You lost because the voters don’t like you…deal with it instead of whining and trying to blame others for your mistakes and shortcomings.
/r/MensRights28/08/22 11:21 AM
4

The 80% of divorces filed by women would say otherwise. The stats don’t lie. It’s women who bail on their husbands, because they’re incentivised to do so by a legal system heavily biased in their favour. What man in his right mind would sign up to that?
/r/MensRights27/08/22 08:15 AM
3

The only way to avoid the scenario you describe is to NEVER GET MARRIED.
/r/MensRights27/08/22 08:07 AM
118

It's simple common sense. Women, even the avg looking one's, have FAR more options than men today. Your avg women on a dating app will get dozens if not hundreds of approaches, whereas a man might net a handful if he's lucky. Those with more options are likely to be both tempted to cheat and exercise those options, especially when breaking any promises made (fidelity and marriage) comes with ZERO social stigma, zero financial consequences and is actively cheered on and supported by the culture. …
/r/MensRights24/08/22 03:40 PM
3

Actually a sensible, reasoned conclusion....which will mean it will be attacked and shouted down, in favour of more "palatable" fare....namely attacking men and proposing sanctions on those who disagree with the feminist agenda.
/r/MensRights24/08/22 09:53 AM
118

I believe in true equality. Got two good legs??.....well you can stand then. You don't get any special privileges ANYMORE just because you're a woman. Chivalry is dead, because women killed it.... Those days are long gone, deal with it honey...
/r/PussyPassDenied24/08/22 09:51 AM
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Sounds like she views you as daddy and ATM, nothing more. Time to move on. You cannot negotiate attraction...so I doubt she will ever "fancy" you, that ship sailed a long time back. As others have said, she could have had her head turned by another man, the lack of affection, constant blaming, etc is all a sign that her affection is elsewhere. My own ExW said she was no longer interested in sex at all, then I caught her sexing another man. There is never smoke without fire....keep your eyes open…
/r/Divorce_Men24/08/22 04:55 AM
18

His red pill education starts here...today.
/r/MensRights22/08/22 11:03 AM
20

Usually if you say a woman did something terrible to you...other women's response will be "well you must have done something to make her act like that!!" Classic victim blaming....we saw it in spades during the Johnny Depp / Amber Turd fiasco.
/r/MensRights22/08/22 11:02 AM
23

MGTOW is a natural reaction to what men observe in the world around them. Mainly it's a push back against the gynocentric nature of modern marriage and family law. There are huge downsides for men in marriage and being a father (when it comes to splitting up),. We can lose our money, savings, future earnings, home, job, freedom, kids...everything really. It's much safer just to say no and live your life on your terms rather than have a gun held to your head by a wife and the state. There are oth…
/r/MensRights22/08/22 10:52 AM
13

Notice the article doesn’t mention how long she was jailed for? I expect it was a paltry sentence at best, nothing close to the years he would have served if her plan had succeeded.
/r/MensRights22/08/22 06:08 AM
4

Most mgtow just want to be left alone, yet they just can seem to understand that simple premise. We are happy not having relationships or marriage. Most have seen the damage done to male relatives and friends and made a logical decision not to put themselves in for more of the same…what’s so horrible about that.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 07:19 PM
11

This. The only sensible choice a man can make in the modern world shit show.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 10:37 AM
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Yea such a great idea…countless women having multiple kids by different fathers, getting tax free status, child support from the fathers and benefits from the gov and contributing absolutely NOTHING to society for life. That sounds like such a productive idea. Meanwhile men will be forced to work until the grave to fund women’s laziness.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 10:32 AM
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"Men to blame"...what a shocker. Tradcon wife or progressive Hoe...they all accept zero responsibility for their own choices. Men have ALWAYS been held responsible and have zero options after the fact. Women have always had multiple choices and can exercise them without ANY consultation with the man. I urge all men to guard their sperm at all costs. If you know you don't want children, get that vasectomy asap. You can always bank some sperm as a safeguard, it's relatively cheap for long term sto…
/r/MensRights21/08/22 05:57 AM
4

"She belongs to the streets"
/r/PussyPassDenied20/08/22 07:41 AM
1

Indeed. If an employee assaulted someone out of work hours how does that not relate to their in work character. Their character is made up of everything they do and say...not just what we see at work.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/08/22 07:40 AM
3

NTA.....having an affair is a sign of bad character and a duplicitous mindset. I would never hire or promote anyone I knew was having an affair.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/08/22 07:35 AM
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Er no...I'll do what I want, when I want with who I want and not be lectured to by a woman on how I should behave.....that's the reason why I got divorced, so I can be my own master again.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 07:27 AM
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I too suffered this exact scenario and trust me when I say life does get a lot better once you’re free. Once I had freedom to manoeuvre I more than doubled my salary, bought a nice 5 bedroom house in a stunning gated community, nice new car and a much younger gf (whom I will never live with or get married to….learned that lesson 😃). Life couldn’t be better. My ex on the other hand has spiralled down and her life is an utter dumpster fire. Karmas a bitch…and so is she.
/r/Divorce_Men19/08/22 08:37 AM
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So a potential suitor must take on around $1M of liability (assuming the avg cost to raise a child to 18 is $270K...I'm taking a bit off for children already here....plus her as well, she won't work) but he cannot sample the "goods" until after he signs his life away? I'm guessing after marriage either the sex will be non-existent anyway or she'll shag him just long enough to get knocked up a 5th time to secure her "payday". In reality no man is going to touch this ho with a 15ft barge pole. Oh …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/08/22 05:43 AM
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It's called a midlife crisis. She's hitting the wall hard at late 30s and decides to jump back on the CC just to prove to herself "she's still got it" and can attract men, never mind the fact that the only men she can attract are losers or just out for a quick pump and dump. We see this play out so often here, it's like a cliche for late 30s / early 40s women. They want to be free and independent all of a sudden until it all goes wrong...then they come crawling back, begging for forgiveness. Jus…
/r/Divorce_Men19/08/22 05:32 AM
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How dare they assume the gender of this person. Physical attributes don’t mean anything….don’t they know that it’s all about how they identify? They can be 6ft, built like a shithouse door, have a big bushy beard and still have periods. /sarcasm. Obviously it’s a dude, but I do love to poke fun at the utter shit show that is the crazy left of today.
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 05:13 PM
3

You need to plan your exit asap. Nothing is going to improve, but I think you know this already. You asking here is just the first steps in a journey that you’ve already chosen.
/r/Divorce_Men17/08/22 10:01 AM
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Because they hate not being able to control us. They’re so used to controlling men through our sexual desires that not being able to do so is deeply annoying to them. When they can’t control something they call it problematic and demonise it.
/r/MensRights17/08/22 10:00 AM
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The advice about local lawyers is spot on. Reduce her pool of good, quality attorneys and get yourself the best one you can afford.
/r/Divorce_Men17/08/22 05:21 AM
6

"She never admits to doing wrong"...well there's a surprise!!! "She wants everything her way and threatens divorce if she doesn't get it."....never ever give in to this sort of ultimatum, it never ends well. Call her bluff, go get papers and file yourself. A wife who loved her husband would not threaten him like this. She has no love or respect for you left, so how about you love and respect YOURSELF and your kids and save yourselves from this toxic environment? Accountability and Responsibility…
/r/Divorce_Men17/08/22 05:17 AM
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So he's going through a divorce, one of the most emotionally draining things a man can suffer and she's probably pressuring him for engagement. I'm guessing she's never been married and is desperate to get walked down that isle. What she really wants is the wedding, to be the bride...not him, he's just playing a bit part in this role-play of hers. Women always say they want emotionally available men, for us to share our feelings....but there are countless stories of men that do, suffer some form…
/r/Divorce_Men17/08/22 05:13 AM
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In their minds there is nothing good about us...until they want something, then they're all sweet and kinds to us. One whatever it is is paid for, they revert to form of being cruel, nagging headcases. You want to see what a woman is really like...say NO to her demands and watch her flip out. This is why they hate mgtow so much, we remove ourselves from their circle of manipulation.
/r/MensRights17/08/22 05:01 AM
3

I’d say it’s pretty accurate actually. Most men wish and believe the kid is theirs, sadly it’s proven not to be in increasing amounts. Alpha seed, beta need.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 07:36 PM
3

Better to be safe than sorry lol.
/r/AntiFeminists14/08/22 05:46 PM
6

Ideally, sit down together and try and work it out. I just said to my ex that we’d had a good run but it was better for both of us and the kids if we split. We weren’t going to be friends but it didn’t mean we had to be enemies. Luckily she could see that putting me in a corner would make me fight for everything and no one would win.
/r/Divorce_Men14/08/22 01:12 PM
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It will be the court that bends you over, better buy some quality lube. If you and your ex can keep it amicable then at least she can agree to a split that leaves you something more than what the court would take. If you can agree that split and as long as it isn’t unfair then a court should just rubber stamp it. The problem comes when you FIGHT because you , as the man, will lose every time.
/r/Divorce_Men14/08/22 01:02 PM
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As she’s never worked you’re going to get reamed, sorry but that’s the harsh truth. She’ll get both CS and alimony most of the house assets and savings too. All you can do is try and split amicably and hope things go smoothly. Best of luck, you’re going to need it!!!!
/r/Divorce_Men14/08/22 12:05 PM
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I guess the men with the mentality to wouldn’t
/r/MensRights14/08/22 09:38 AM
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If it tuned into an internet meme it could gain some traction...say like movember did. Although you can bet the feminists would come for it HARD with tons of buzz words (patriarchy this, sexist that, exclusionary...whatever they can sling to try an shame us). Personally I think it'd a healthy thing for men to do, but sadly as others have said, I can't see it working on most men.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:40 AM
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You need to file tomorrow dude otherwise you could be looking at LIFETIME alimony. Just imagine being in your 60s or 70s and still having to send her money every month.....you need to act NOW to save yourself.
/r/Divorce_Men14/08/22 07:35 AM
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Her 3rd marriage??...wake up, she's cheating. No woman just ups and asks for a divorce without monkey branching to another man. Women are hypergamous, ie they are always on the hunt for the bigger, better deal. I'm sorry you're in this situation, but the fact that she had TWO failed marriages should have been a HUGE red flag to stay away from her. You did this to yourself. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but yours is a cautionary tale to other young men NOT to date or marry single mothers or divorce…
/r/Divorce_Men14/08/22 07:25 AM
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Next time she drives with the kids and is drunk, call the cops and report her. They’ll stop her and DUI her, that will prove her unsuitability to parent Any judge will award you primary custody, and likely she will have to do a AA course before being given access.
/r/Divorce_Men13/08/22 05:09 PM
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Even if it is fake, it’s a good lesson to young men NOT to be alone with a girl who might wish you harm or have revenge on her mind. Better to only meet her in public or with a friend. Personally I’d never be friends with an ex for this very reason, there’s just too much risk of false accusation. If I still had some of their stuff I’d get it to them via a 3rd party.
/r/AntiFeminists13/08/22 04:41 PM
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NEVER EVER give in to an ultimatum. You've got a proven track record of counselling failing to resolve the issues, so why do it again. The definition of insanity is repeatedly doing the same thing and expecting different outcomes. Her trying to force you via blackmail is a clear sign of a manipulative personality and someone you clearly don't need to be with. Carry through with the divorce and get out.
/r/Divorce_Men12/08/22 10:20 AM
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You’re being used for cash and labor. Don’t. When she calls with a favour to ask, simply say you’re busy with work or some other thing. She’ll get bored eventually. I think the end game is to get you back on the hook to get her hooks into your cash….nothing more.
/r/Divorce_Men12/08/22 05:06 AM
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Had mine at age 35, having had two kids and not wanting more. Doctors didn’t argue the point with me. Best decision I ever made. I split with my wife aged 42 and dated a bit. Knowing that I couldn’t be trapped or suffer a whoops moment was truly liberating. I told all my sexual partners that I had the snip, so they were under no illusions about pulling any stunts with me. Would I recommend it….yes absolutely. For me there was 1 day of discomfort and then back to normal.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 04:59 PM
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Call her on it. Say you’ll see her in court. As you are now divorced she’ll have to pay all her own legal fees so will be out of pocket. It’s just a bluff to control you. The only way this succeeds is if you give in to her demands which, by the sounds of it, you have done in the past otherwise why would she continue to do this. SAY NO and see what happens. I’m guessing nothing at all. If she continues with the abuse emails and texts, file a restraining order against her and only have contact thr…
/r/Divorce_Men11/08/22 08:03 AM
3

A few lucky breaks workwise and getting in on the ground floor of a successful us tech startup. I made myself an expert and indispensable in my field so can expect that kind of salary. This was building on a 20yr career, so not an overnight thing. Being divorced and the kids being older allowed me to be a bit more risky with my choices whereas I chose stability when they were young.
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/22 06:38 PM
3

A mixture of 4, 5 & 6. Angry that she cheated and blew up our lives, indifferent to her life now and feel sorry for the mess she's going to be in once her hand is no longer in my pocket.
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/22 11:51 AM
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I'm sure you're well aware, but single mothers are to be avoided like the plague. Nothing but bad news there. I'm sure my GF will eventually get bored of me. She's 32 and I can practically hear her bio-clock ticking. I've told her the score from day one, no marriage, no living together & no kids (I'm fixed, so no "oops" moments). I've told her if she want those things, we'll go our separate ways and no harm done, but I won't change my mind. It's her choice, and she's aware of that. I just said d…
/r/MensRights09/08/22 09:41 AM
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In my country it does and is written into our CS agreement (ratified by the courts) that support ends at 18 unless the kids are in full time education. Since neither of my boys wants to go to college, 18 is when it will terminate.
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/22 09:34 AM
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No idea and frankly I don't care. She put me through the wringer in the divorce and treated me like shit when I was at my lowest, so why should I help her when she's at hers? As for the love bombing....a snowballs chance in hell it would work. I won't even engage in ANY conversation around that with her. I made it very clear I won't do family dinners with her etc....she makes my skin crawl now. I don't want to be her friend or anything else...I just want her to GO AWAY PERMANENTLY.
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/22 08:27 AM
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You’re probably right. I think our “culture “ is destined for decline unless something big happens. I’d love to be part of a mars adventure, to get back to that pioneering spirit. Alas I’m too old for it to be a reality in my future, however I will be thrilled to se it happen.
/r/MensRights09/08/22 08:00 AM
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When the marriage rate keeps dropping and men are avoiding having kids altogether for fear of parental alienation, there has to come a point when they realise the shaming doesn't work anymore...at least that's what I'd like to think. There's going to come a crisis point in a decade or so where there will be legions of unhappy, middle aged, childless women screaming about their lost opportunity and where did it all go wrong. We are already seeing this happen today, but the young generation of men…
/r/MensRights09/08/22 07:28 AM
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That's honestly the defacto response from feminists nowadays...that's why it makes such good sarcasm.
/r/MensRights09/08/22 07:16 AM
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Oh I fully expect that....but it won't work. I've laid the groundwork with the boys that HARD WORK gets you where you want to be and that if you want more money you have to work for it and be ambitious. I think they can see their mother has just drifted along, she's had the same job on the same pay for 20yrs. Zero ambition. I even paid for a degree which she's done nothing with. When I'm no longer under the child support thumb I can be a little more honest with them about what I think. They love…
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/22 07:15 AM
3

My sympathies dude.
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/22 06:33 AM
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Yes. If we all start talking about sport, business or anything else she doesn't find interesting then she feel excluded...and we then are labelled as "problematic". NO...I will talk to my friends about what we want to..not what you want us to. Don't like that..tough!!
/r/MensRights09/08/22 06:20 AM
2

“Would you like a nice game of chess?”
/r/MensRights09/08/22 06:09 AM
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IMHO the essence of MGTOW is men choosing their own path, each one deciding what form that takes. Sure there are purists and monks who are very anti women altogether but there’s also plenty of men who just want to avoid the more obvious pitfalls out there.
/r/MensRights09/08/22 06:05 AM
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No ignorance is not bliss. The shitstorm can come for you if your ill informed or a guru in these matters, it's completely out of your hand many times. Personally I think knowledge is power and to forearm myself with coping strategies, other men's experiences etc...helps me fight the battles as they come for me. "An intelligent man learns from his mistakes...a wise one learns from the mistakes of others".
/r/MensRights09/08/22 06:01 AM
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I feel the same. I used to go out of my way to help, but not anymore. IMHO it's just too risky in todays world. You can lose your job, family, home...all because some stranger wants attention by making up a false statement. Personally I'd rather avoid that situation. By way of an example, I cycle a lot (thousands of miles per year) and frequently come across other cyclists with flat tyres. I no longer help women who are on their own. Some bike tires can be impossible to get off/on as they're ext…
/r/MensRights09/08/22 05:48 AM
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I would describe myself as moderate mgtow. I'm not a monk, nor do I want to live away from women. I have a GF but I will never cohabitate or get married again. I've been married and divorced, and have ZERO desire to go through that nightmare again. I fail to see whats so shocking or toxic about wanting to safeguard my own future, but then again I won't be slave to a woman so I'm one less person to fleece.
/r/MensRights09/08/22 05:35 AM
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If men do it..it's problematic, if women do the same...empowering and brave!!!
/r/MensRights09/08/22 05:31 AM
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Thx..a long time coming but I'm looking forward to a new chapter in life. Time to set some new goals I think.
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/22 05:30 AM
114

I am a member of a sports club, unashamedly MEN ONLY. We do not have a club house, any professional body affiliations etc...nothing the feminists can use to pressure us. We've had lots of attempts from women to get us to open up, but we steadfastly refuse to do so, stating the presence of a women's only equivalent in the area. I for one want to be able to banter with my mates, free from the risk of some professional grievance monger taking "offence" at every little comment. There are precious fe…
/r/MensRights09/08/22 05:21 AM
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LOL....I can't imagine anything more gross.
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/22 05:15 AM
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Thx bro...it's like some bad cheesy movie script. I've always said the modern womans's mid-life crisis is wanting to get back on the CC...it never works out the way they think it will.
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/22 05:12 AM
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It ends just before xmas, so I'm planning a huge party to celebrate. I have nice things but I don't live large, so all that extra cash is going into investments for early retirement or paying down my mortgage early. I think I'm definitely going to have to block and ghost, I don't think she will go away quietly. As per one of my other reply's...thank god I live in a gated community and the guard has orders NOT to let her into the property. At least I can avoid crazy coming to my door.
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/22 05:08 AM
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I didn't need to ...they've both found the redpill online and are well aware of the modern world shit show. Both have said they don't want marriage...I couldn't be prouder. :)
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/22 05:04 AM
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You would be correct. She cheated with an old BF, she wanted to divorce...I ultimately pushed the divorce through. My life has grown exponentially, I earn 4X what I did when with her, have a nice new 5 bedroom house in a gated community, nice car , nice holidays etc... She has stagnated, same job, same wage, house a mess (needs lots of repairs), let herself go etc. She got a huge sum every month from me, way more than required for the kids. I know she wasted loads of cash on her BF and doing tri…
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/22 05:02 AM
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That’s they way I see it. Thx.
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/22 03:35 AM
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They’re too old and independent to fall for that BS. They can drive so don’t need her permission to see me. I’ve made it clear to both boys that once 18 they can come live with me if they want. Both have said they will.
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/22 03:33 AM
1

Female midlife crisis.
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/22 03:09 AM
3

Pre divorce I drove a really expensive car and my exw was going to come after it, however she failed to realise it was leased thus not “Property”. If you know that divorce is incoming soon leasing is a good way to avoid you means of transportation from becoming a target, especially if you use it for your job.
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/22 03:02 AM
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Classic monkey branching on her part. Women rarely leave unless they have something else in the background. Usually it’s a work colleague. Just be prepared for her to go scorched earth on you so as to justify it (“he was so terrible that he drove me into another man’s arm’s “). They never accept responsibility or accountability for their actions. Also be prepared for when it falls apart, her to come crawling back, begging for forgiveness. When that does happen, and you’d be surprised just how of…
/r/Divorce_Men06/08/22 01:28 PM
2

Personally I’d say no to that “offer”. She cannot just come and go as she pleases in your house, it’s not fair to you or the child. She should have structured visitation times so everyone knows exactly where they stand…and she should be paying child support to you.
/r/Divorce_Men05/08/22 11:43 AM
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A combination of things. He recked his health doing his own stunts then got divorce raped. He suffered depression for yrs and took a long time to recover. It look like he’s finally getting back on track and I wish him all the best, he deserves a little bit of success and happiness.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 09:41 PM
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The only downside to this disaster is that Brendan Fraser doesn’t get back to the big screen. He’s long overdue a break but just has the luck of the devil.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 05:41 AM
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Indeed. They could have had a whole “resistance “ subplot with female characters which would have been highly accurate but NO they had to go woke.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 07:07 PM
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I have no issue with female soldiers in fictitious or modern combat scenarios, but if we're representing a factual, historic conflict then it should be accurate. In WW1 and WW2 combat troops were exclusively men, to claim otherwise is a misrepresentation of the truth and an insult to those brave men who died on the battlefield. The only times I see people get upset about games introducing female characters is this case, when history is being altered to fit a modern political viewpoint. Some mode…
/r/MensRights02/08/22 12:56 PM
2

To everyone thinking Japanese women could make great wives...THINK AGAIN. In Japan wives are the head of the household, always hold all the money and often dole out a husbands "allowance". Most Japanese women refuse to work when they get married and have kids, so a single income is the norm. Sex amongst married couples is almost non-existent as the family home is small and usually there is many generations living under the same roof, ie zero privacy, plus the wives only see you as an ATM. There'…
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 12:27 PM
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What a surprise....a crazy person acts like a nutjob. It's almost like feminists can't act like rational, normal functioning human beings, but instead have to go to extreme lengths to prove their feminist credentials. This is as much about virtue signalling to her fellow crazies as it is hating men.
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 06:07 AM
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If she’s done it once, she’ll do it again. She bailed on you when you didn’t obey her, so if you happen to transgress in any way…she’s perhaps going to jump on another cock? That is no way to live your life. Divorce this 304 and move on.
/r/Divorce_Men01/08/22 05:43 PM
9

Feminists preach intersectionality. This doctrine allows them to side with other “oppressed” groups under the same umbrella. Thus feminists (not turfs) are generally supportive of trans rights even to the detriment of women. Anti-feminists certainly are not the ones pushing or helping push this rubbish.
/r/AntiFeminists01/08/22 05:40 PM
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This is a good story about prenups https://youtu.be/x571ff6VSG8
/r/MensRights01/08/22 04:30 PM
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Same as women in public having arguments or fights with their BFs….NEVER get involved and white knight for them, you won’t be thanked except for a fist to the face and a boot in the ribs. Women claim they are strong and independent…let them fight their own battles.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 03:48 PM
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Child support is separate from marriage so you’ll be paying no matter what your legal status. As for common law, move somewhere where it’s not recognised. Also avoid joint accounts for anything other than household expenses. Best route would be to adopt/surrogate if you want kids and avoid a woman altogether. Honestly if I knew back when I was your age what I know now (post divorce) I would have run screaming for the hills away from ANY woman.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 10:25 AM
23

Okay then, having seen what can happen directly (your brother) why would you willingly put yourself in the same situation?
/r/MensRights01/08/22 10:19 AM
13

This.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 10:17 AM
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Simple solution really….don’t get married. You can have everything you get in a marriage in a LTR, love, companionship, children, a house etc…all without signing up to her holding a gun to your head. I’ve always said that marriage gives women a free pass to behave badly so why give her that opportunity. By not marrying her she has to keep you interested in order to get your resources. She might complain but you have to stay strong and simply say “if you really want marriage then you will need to…
/r/MensRights01/08/22 10:16 AM
24

Sorry this is happening to you bro. Young men reading this story….this is why you never get married. DONT DO IT. Save yourself.
/r/Divorce_Men31/07/22 08:06 PM
6

A feminist "debunking" the manosphere, pardon me if I don't believe you for a second. Just more "men bad", "do better", "pander to us" bullshit.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 07:54 AM
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All us divorced men have been where you are now. The fact that we are here should tell you that life does go on and in fact get better. Everyone’s journey is different, some recover quickly others take yrs but we all learn, grow and come out the other side better people. The key in this process is to finally put yourself first. As men we are taught from an early age that our purpose is to keep a wife happy and provide. Never is there anything in that conditioning about our own happiness. As a re…
/r/Divorce_Men30/07/22 01:28 PM
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Like the chick who accused a BLIND guy of staring at her at the gym. Even proving that he was blind (registered) wasn’t enough to satisfy her. She tried to get him banned from the gym.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 10:43 PM
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They can try but just like the Mgtow ban all it does is draw more attention and men to the cause. It’s the Streisand effect.
/r/MensRights27/07/22 05:46 PM
5

You have to come to the realisation that you cannot control what she does when she has the kids. To do so will only be counterproductive and drive you mad. Best to step back and, as much as it hurts, let them get on with it. The best revenge you can get is living your life to the max and finding true happiness, that will drive her crazy especially as the AP bubble often pops over time.
/r/Divorce_Men27/07/22 05:42 PM
13

On point with every statement 👌🏻
/r/MensRights27/07/22 05:39 PM
3

Assuming you are divorced already and the settlement is a done deal and your lawyer says there is no actionable info on the website (ie purely factual, based upon public record etc) then I guess it comes down to a risk vs reward argument. Is the risk of her being pissed at you and possibly making trouble in your life worth the potential saving another man? I think so. If she's done it multiple times, it shows a clear pattern of behaviour, a pre-meditated calculating mind and other men should be …
/r/Divorce_Men27/07/22 06:20 AM
2

I had my solicitor file the divorce as I wasn't confident on the self filing and wanted to make sure it was correct first time. I insisted that we each pay our own solicitors fee's as again, I didn't want her to be able to run up costs that I would be responsible for. There was a considerable earning disparity so any "legal debt" would have fallen mostly upon me. I'd heard of horror stories where the husband has to pay wife's legal fee's and they almost always have a common thread of her running…
/r/Divorce_Men27/07/22 06:12 AM
2

Another UK divorcee here. Mine ended up costing around £3000 end to end. My ex and I agreed to split the costs of the filling, £300 I think, but the rest of it was solicitors fee's, which is easy to do when they charge per letter, per email etc. I think 3-5K is an expected amount. Mine dragged a bit due to covid but did eventually close. It took 2yrs start to finish. The only thing I used mediation for was to agree the interim child support amount (pre divorce). She wanted to discuss the entire …
/r/Divorce_Men27/07/22 05:40 AM
1

So you work then have to do the majority of the housework/childcare too. No wonder you're tired and fed up. A partner is supposed to be just that, an equal who shares the daily load. What you have is another child, completely dependant upon you for everything and, it seems from your post, unwilling to make any change away from that situation. There comes a time when you have to say enough is enough and walk away, sounds like you've reached that point. I was in the same situation, but for other r…
/r/Divorce_Men26/07/22 06:07 AM
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Someone has to pay, it sure as hell won’t be the mother and the gov wants to avoid it at all costs so the judges are ordered to push it on the father. Never mind the he might not be able to pay it, that the amount is too high, that it puts him on the streets or that he pays but she still withholds visitation. All around it’s a bad deal for men. The only thing you’ve can do is keep knocking on the door and hope you eventually get a friendly judge, but don’t hold your breath.
/r/Divorce_Men25/07/22 04:44 PM
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Similar to food stamps, CS payments should only be allowed to be spent on specific items for the child. Food, children's clothing, a % of utilities, school fee's after school clubs etc.. all of it should be held as record that the father can view and contest. He should be able to go to the child support agency and log a case for inappropriate use of funds should the mother, say use it for buying dresses or a new car. I've always thought it a scandal that women don't have to provide some sort of …
/r/MensRights25/07/22 03:05 PM
1

Depends upon what deal your state offers and how long you've been married. If say they said 2yrs alimony then I'd just pay and be done with it, however if it was 8yrs and she had a BF, then maybe not. Personally I was never keen on staying in my old house and buying my ex out, too many memories in that place (not all of them bad, but probably not good for moving on). I opted to have her buy me out and I bought a new house a few miles away. As your ex hasn't worked and has zero credit history, th…
/r/Divorce_Men25/07/22 02:53 PM
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I'd sell and pay down that alimony, so it's one less thing she has over your head. She's an adult and can rent if necessary.....
/r/Divorce_Men25/07/22 07:23 AM
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Totally made up by a feminist trying to justify her toxic views. What 2/3yr old calls another child sexy baby? None of them do….it’s total bs.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 06:08 AM
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My son's eventually want to live with me (2 teen boys) because my house is calm and tidy. They love their mother but she's always been a messy hoarder and her house is filthy and unsanitary. I told them to tell her this if they were unhappy about it and to their credit they did. Things improved for a while but she slipped back so they've told her they want to move in with me. She blew up at me, but I simply said to her that they told her outright what the problem was, she didn't fix it so it's n…
/r/Divorce_Men24/07/22 05:16 AM
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Dude you need to stay away from relationships for a while to heal up and find a direction, you sound lost right now. Also stay away from dating apps, you're not going to find a quality woman on them, quite the opposite most likely. Going back to your ex for support screams of insecurity and desperation, time to move on. Always move forward, never back and certainly never back to an ex.
/r/Divorce_Men24/07/22 05:05 AM
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You can be certain a woman's definition of masculinity is only to her benefit and advantage, never yours...
/r/AntiFeminists24/07/22 04:59 AM
2

Do not accept anything less than 50/50 from the outset. A 70/30 split, even if she promises it’s temporary, will establish a pattern and will likely become the permanent position. Once established she has no reason to accept any changes. Not only will it curtail your access but also fix a level of child support. Don’t do it. You sound like you’re still putting her feelings first, stop it. Get a lawyer and don’t do mediation, that’s a trap. Mediation usually means her and the councillor badgering…
/r/Divorce_Men24/07/22 04:48 AM
5

Since when did feminism, intelligence and logic co-exist????
/r/AntiFeminists23/07/22 09:46 AM
20

Onlyfans of course, OF is the lazy bitches response to everything.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/07/22 09:02 AM
3

You’ll get there eventually. Once you successfully detach and establish yourself on your own your “deference “ to her will slowly fade, you’ll find that in situations where you used to tread lightly around her feelings…you just don’t care anymore so telling her to F off no longer fills you with dread. Only advice I have is to make sure that the custody split is ironclad and well established before you start the push back. This will mean there is an established record of co-parenting so that if s…
/r/Divorce_Men23/07/22 07:24 AM
4

She sounds like she’s emotionally abusive to me. You’d be better off away from her tbh. My ex was a bit like this, there’s only so much rejection one can take before you decide to avoid the heartache and not bother initiating anymore. Trust and believe that life does get better after divorce. You are in a solid position and should be able to stay in the house with your kids. No judge is going to force the kids out and you are the primary care provider. Best of luck bro.
/r/Divorce_Men22/07/22 02:38 PM
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Yes she has cheated physically, no woman just decides to divorce her husband just on a "connection". She has been sleeping with him for sure, she's just minimising her infidelity in case it doesn't workout with him and she can then stay with you as her "backup option". You need to wake up and realise she's a liar, cheater and is playing games with you emotionally. The woman you married and fell in love with no longer exists...what you have now is someone you have to separate yourself from and pr…
/r/Divorce_Men22/07/22 01:50 PM
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You need to set boundaries and soon. Once the divorce is final and you have split time with your daughter it should get better as she will not be able to tell you what to do on your time, however if she is controlling in this way, do expect her to interfere. This is where the boundary setting comes in, you need to make it clear that any interference is not acceptable and will be recorded, keep a diary and make sure she knows it. I had to do this with my exw, not over the kids, but over her venti…
/r/Divorce_Men22/07/22 04:48 AM
1

Life is indeed better afterwards if you know what makes you happy and work on yourself. You don’t need another to be happy, you just think you do. Once over the initial hurt you find your feet and move forward….always forward and never look back.
/r/Divorce_Men22/07/22 04:38 AM
2

I bought in 2019 after renting for a while after my divorce. I original had a two yr fixed at 2.4% and just re-up’d for a 5yr fixed at 2.95%. Yes it was about £60 a month more expensive but I wanted to have certainly for the future as I think interest rates are going to be going up over the next few yrs. The years of low interest are over. Luckily I have a large amount of equity, roughly 70% of the house valuation and have just myself on the property. I aim to pay out the loan by the end of that…
/r/Divorce_Men21/07/22 04:47 PM
1

Yeah, Maury is as old as the dinosaurs, not surprised he's hanging up his mic. I think they film the Steve Wilkos show in the same building (same production crew), so I bet steve is going to take over as the DNA king. Maury's show was my favorite for the old "You are not the father" moments....classic stuff.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/07/22 05:55 AM
22

She doesn’t remember who that is. Could be dozens of guys. Who else is going to keep Maury in business?
/r/PussyPassDenied20/07/22 05:37 PM
17

They always do. Monkey branching is the defacto in these situations.
/r/Divorce_Men20/07/22 04:45 PM
10

Crafty move sir.
/r/Divorce_Men16/07/22 02:18 PM
14

1st picture....dead shark eyes. You just know you're going to end up with a knife in your ribs during the night.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/07/22 06:07 AM
21

She fat...defiantly.
/r/AntiFeminists16/07/22 06:01 AM
2

So true. It’s also exactly the same with the fat acceptance movement. Convincing unhealthy girls that being obese is just fine and there’s no issues, that men will still find them attractive and that they are healthy. The exact opposite is true, but no one wants to speak the truth. The girls then stick their fingers in their ears and carry on until they reach a certain point when reality comes crashing in on them, by which point islets all too late.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 08:04 AM
0

Badge of honor for every true anti feminist.
/r/AntiFeminists10/07/22 01:46 PM
13

Wonder why divorce is so expensive……because it’s worth it to be rid of the bitch. Yes it will cost you a lot, both financially and emotionally, to get to the finish line but in the long term it’s a bill worth paying for the peace and calm it will bring to your life. You say she’s a stay at home mother, so the most important thing you need to do is child custody and securing your access. Expect any and all false accusations. Pre-warn your employer that she going to try and smear you, do the same …
/r/Divorce_Men10/07/22 02:06 AM
3

That’s what really got to me…the possibilities for a great series were there for the taking. It could have been fantastic with a mix of history, scifi and technology. The fact that it was wasted is a crime.
/r/AntiFeminists09/07/22 07:43 PM
1

Remember that clothes have value, especially designer ones that keep their value. It’s a common tactic to hide money to buy stuff in the hope that the partner won’t dispute them. You need to request the receipts as part of any discovery. As for the solicitors bill, I’d get a new credits card just for this use only that way any spending cannot be disputed.
/r/Divorce_Men09/07/22 07:04 PM
2

Just for reference my divorce cost around £5000 in fees so your quote is in the ballpark. All assets, even if they are paid by just one person, if they were bought during the marriage are community property and apt for division. In most cases couple’s agree to take their own vehicles and not request part of the other unless there is a huge disparity in value. I avoided this with my ex as my car was leased, meaning it had zero value (technical you don’t own a leased car). I did this deliberately …
/r/Divorce_Men09/07/22 05:51 PM
2

As a UK citizen, I agree that it's not a bad place, however it's far from perfect. There's still rampant sexism in the courts against fathers, although it is getting better over time. As someone else mentioned, rape is only classified as a male crime (women raping an underage boy is "sexual assault" not rape for example). Our PC brigade is out of control for sure, lots of silly stuff going on, but no more or less than any other western nation. Lots of room for improvement, but I say we are downs…
/r/MensRights09/07/22 10:43 AM
10

AH is the gift that keeps on giving....LOL'S every days.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/07/22 10:32 AM
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This is the truth behind at least 50% of divorces. You can be the best husband, best father etc and you will still get taken to the cleaners when she cheats. You can do everything right and still get fucked over. The only winning move is not to play.
/r/AntiFeminists09/07/22 10:27 AM
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Ideally a man should NEVER get married.
/r/Divorce_Men09/07/22 09:25 AM
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0.0000001% of all men. Good luck with that one honey 👌🏻 https://igotstandardsbro.com/
/r/AntiFeminists08/07/22 04:41 PM
4

So a woman can deliberately get pregnant, sue the baby daddy, then abort....rinse and repeat for regular cash stream. Seems totally fair /sarcasm Then again this is a democrat proposing this in a conservative state....not a chance in hell of it passing.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 01:09 PM
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If a soon to be ExW says she's not interested in money.....don't believe a word of it. As soon as she lawyers up and he/she gets in her ear about what they are "owed", all bets are off and she will come after you for EVERY penny. That being said an agreeable divorce is possible, just rare. If you can agree division of assets to be fair and get a custody agreement drawn up, hopefully a judge will agree to it all. One thing, I'd personally offer some level of CS (not alimony) to indicate to the ju…
/r/Divorce_Men08/07/22 01:01 PM
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Oh dear how naïve can you be? There is zero good reasons for joint finances…zero. If you both contribute to a separate joint account for bills and food but keep your own spending cash neither of you have to justify to the other what you spend it on. As long as bills are covered and contributions reflect any. Differences in salary level then it’s totally fair. Personally I don’t want to police or check what a partner is spending money on, that’s not my job and isn’t healthy. Nor do I want to be i…
/r/Divorce_Men08/07/22 06:26 AM
12

Worked to death. Just like the cart horse from Animal Farm. Used up until you are of no use then disposed of.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 06:17 AM
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And they say slavery is no longer a problem in America??? This is modern day slavery in action. He has almost zero chance to recover from this and is looking at a life of servitude and probably early death. And people wonder why men self-delete? This is why...no hope, no future, no way out!!!
/r/MensRights08/07/22 05:03 AM
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And men are toxic? This dude sacrificed everything for his son and although he eventually won, we have no idea the long term consequences to both the child's physical or mental state due to the abuse. I salute you sir, you are a true hero...keep that witch away from your son forever.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 05:00 AM
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Just make sure that you have a recording device to hand and film the entire interaction as she will go MAD when served. You don't want her to attack you then claim something else and land you in jail (seen it happen). Protect yourself at all times....and good luck!!!
/r/Divorce_Men08/07/22 04:09 AM
3

This is why you never have joint finances (apart from a non-overdraft account for bills etc). If your wife asks you to, chances are she means to go on a spending spree on YOUR dime.
/r/Divorce_Men08/07/22 04:07 AM
5

Same. My ExW spends all her money (and a large portion of my CS) on travelling to see her BF in another city, vacations with him etc. Meantime my kids are in hand-me-down clothes. I have my own set of clothes (new) whilst they are here. They go back into the old clothes before I drop them back to her otherwise I never get to see them again and have to shell out more to replace them. I'm sure this is a tactic and intentional. Pretty sure once they get old enough they will want to come live with m…
/r/Divorce_Men08/07/22 04:05 AM
14

Men often cheat because they want to feel wanted and rarely get that, especially in marriage. Women cheat because they feel entitled to attention.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 10:58 AM
4

For the majority of human history men and women have lived in symbiosis, each bringing skills and strengths for the whole based upon their nature. This has been incredibly successful over thousands of years of nation building and human advancement. Only recently, since western feminism kicked in, has the relationship between the sexes broken down. Obviously not everything was perfect and society has made huge strides into making opportunity equal for all, however the rampant belief that man are …
/r/MensRights06/07/22 10:11 AM
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More money...it's always money.
/r/Divorce_Men05/07/22 08:20 PM
33

You’ve literally just described what it is to be MGTOW. Having had enough of relationships and finding peace as a single man.
/r/Divorce_Men04/07/22 10:23 PM
3

For some reason I read that as “Coming to America” and was thinking……how can anyone dislike that classic Eddie Murphy film? Okay, it’s been a long day 🤦‍♂️
/r/MensRights04/07/22 05:32 PM
8

Can't be a true feminist unless you are at the pinnacle of the oppression ladder.
/r/AntiFeminists04/07/22 04:16 PM
11

Who even does this?...Entitled women, that's who !!!!! Even if it's not a full entourage as in this case, we've all heard of the story of the bloke who goes on a date only for the girl to bring her "best mate" along and he has to stump up for her as well all night. The msg is clear, if she brings along ANYONE you didn't know would be there prior to the date....LEAVE immediately. No man should be accepting of this sort of situation.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/07/22 04:01 PM
1

All well and good however if the Uni policy is set by feminists then he's a toothless tiger. For example if the "BELIEVE ALL WOMEN" holds sway then he can help very little preventing false accusation or counselling men on how to avoid this. He's bound by the framework he has to operate in....a feminist one. If he started using RP knowledge...he'd be fired.
/r/AntiFeminists04/07/22 07:04 AM
2

Ah…I miss the 80s. Everything was so much easier.
/r/Divorce_Men03/07/22 01:59 PM
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