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I don't think I've ever seen a good Max infield video. So can't comment on him. Kind of depends how you look at it. One the one hand, I think many would argue that Max is way better, because he has infields of hotter, younger girls literally throwing themselves at him. Todd doesn't really have those. But i'd say it's simply a matter of Max being a good looking (albeit short) dude. It was so clear in some of his 'natural' infields that was he calls 'game', is simply a girl who thinks he's good lo…
/r/seduction21/01/20 12:34 PM
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lmao - I have the product. It wasn't 'intentional' at all. haha! I'm hoping that Todd hasn't since said that and that it was just one of his fanboys It's true that he used it as an example of 'when it doesn't work out', but in no way was it 'intentional'. He was trying to 'game' them girls. But they weren't interested. He tried to 'flip' them using his 'game techniques' and they ended up all walking away because Todd couldn't take the hints and stupidly believed you could 'force' a girl to be at…
/r/seduction21/01/20 11:54 AM
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Do you have a plan so that you have things to say for each seduction technique/theory?
/r/seduction21/01/20 11:51 AM
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Negging is great especially at the start of the interaction In the disqualificaiton thread, everyone says that disqualifying (and presumably negging?) are only to be used when she is 'into you' so i'm guess NOT at the start of the interaction?
/r/seduction21/01/20 10:44 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/bmnbsl/the_uk_scene/
/r/seduction13/12/19 12:52 AM
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lol, quite funny. They know all the tricks! :) I gave mysterymethod a goood go for a while back in the day, but it's not better than any other 'method' tbh. If a girl isn't into you, the 'neg' will just make her hostile and walk off. She doesn't care about your DHV story. She might like teh parlour tricks and routines/magic or whatever, but it doesn't make her 'attracted'. Just entertains her briefly. She won't attempt to qualify herself when you ask her 'what she has going for her other than lo…
/r/seduction28/11/19 08:54 PM
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Some of the comments are pretty blue-pilled, man!! lmao It'S like ''He got the girls because he wasn't saying much and was keeping quiet and chill'' (yeah, good luck with that if she isn't attracted to you! If a random dude does that in an FR and the girls walk off, they're lke ''you need to talk more! Can't expect girls to do the work!!'') And ''The girls like him because he went off to play on the fruit machine showing non-neediness'' etc etc If his friend was being loud and fun it'd be ''He g…
/r/seduction27/11/19 01:03 PM
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lol - didn't mean to back you into a corner! haha. Try to relax. As I suspected, it's just about looks and fashion. They're the 'tips' you've learnt. Not that I disagree with it! Just that it's obvoius to most people lol Anyway - we're done. Good luck
/r/seduction10/10/19 08:22 PM
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truth lol https://memeguy.com/photos/images/lookin-good-susan-213969.jpg
/r/seduction10/10/19 07:57 PM
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Direct game rarely works here from my experience (apart from at night of course, but that’s a different context entirely). You mean in bars or clubs (dancefloor?) I personally find going direct in bars at night (I don't really go to 'clubs' as such) to be suicide for guys who aren't blessed with good looks here. It tends to lead to a pretty hard and fast instant rejection lol - so i'm interested if you can elaborate. Maybe your experiences are different. But I certainly agree with the rapport th…
/r/seduction10/10/19 07:54 PM
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I've only been actively gaming for about 3 years. I've not noticed a drastic difference in that time, although my best year was actually my first one! (coincidence? Don't know) I'd post FR's and i'd feel like I must be a lepper, because the comments (all from teh US) just couldn't seem to relate. No matter who's pickup 'model' I followed, it was PURE numbers game. 100%. 'Skill' or waht I said was seemingly irrelevant. Occasionally i'd follow a certain model and it'd work, but in hindsight (and e…
/r/seduction10/10/19 06:46 PM
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but it actually works Refresh my memory. What are you referring too in regards to what works? I've actually not been to that site in years, but I remember when I first registered and started a thread, one of the members (who I gather now pretty much runs the whole forum) was like ''What are you talking about? none of that 'game' shit works. You can't say and do things to 'attract' a girl. If you want feedback, post pictures of your face, your hair, your body, what you typically wear on a night o…
/r/seduction10/10/19 06:12 PM
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if you want to be more than just friends, move on. Stop texting her much, if at all. It sounds like she's not interested. Girls like attention and having fall-back options
/r/seduction10/10/19 06:05 PM
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Neither tbh lol. Was trying to clear it up for the OP as your post made it sound like it was 'kind of' a PUA site (which is what he was asking for) when it's not. But yeah, I DO kind of agree with their philosophy (so far at least, based on my experience of a few years of approaching girls)
/r/seduction10/10/19 06:02 PM
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I'm not in London ;( Every girl I open is born and bred in this town. Is slightly chavvy. Hot. Knows it. Acts like Kylie Jenner. Has a close social circle and has no interest in talking to people outside of that social circle. Sleeps with them guys in her social circle or makes an occasional exception for a very handsome dude on tinder luckily I have done a fair bit of travelling and am able to bang girls in places like Hungary!
/r/seduction10/10/19 05:30 PM
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he followed the london daygame model pretty damn closely, from what I saw! (I used to watch his vids). His issue was that he was hitting on UK girls whereas all other daygamers target foreigners who get a spike out of being told they look like a hamster or wahtever other shit they teach
/r/seduction10/10/19 05:17 PM
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One of the last remaining forums although, as you say, 'it's not exactly PUA'. Well, not only is it not exactly PUA, its not PUA at all! haha. THey literally ban members for talking 'game'/PUA tactics etc as they consider it a complete load of bullshit. The idea (and they may well be right) is that girls are basically attracted to guys the same way we are to them. Looks. Get as handsome as possible. Kill it at the gym. Get ripped. Wear nice clothes that show your body off. Open girls and make yo…
/r/seduction10/10/19 05:08 PM
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exactly. I don't think i'm ever gonna mention the popular pua advice of 'assume attraction' or 'touch early' to anyone ever again lol
/r/seduction10/10/19 04:45 PM
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only in the UK (for now) lol I might have to apologise to the PUA authors whose teachings i've failed to make work. I thought it was that the material was pure armchair theory bullshit - now i'm thinking it's to do with the culture of UK girls lol (when they are in their own country and not 'travelling' looking to get laid). You can apply whichever method you're reading perfectly (so if direct Londondaygame model- smile, strong body language, tell her she looks cute, stack with an assumption, OR…
/r/seduction10/10/19 04:26 PM
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Almost comforting to hear, tbh! haha (not that I needed your confirmation. My wings experience the same shit and I see it. There appears to be a mild variance based on part of teh UK, but in general, yeah, it's brutal)
/r/seduction10/10/19 04:12 PM
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probably talking about the UK grooming gangs. Lots of child sex abuse went ignored by social services and police at the risk of looking 'racist' against muslims, all the while, 12 year old white girls were being passed around like a bong at a frat part by middle aged men
/r/seduction10/10/19 02:31 PM
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I think you're right. I sometimes think all the guys struggling in the UK would be super slayers in teh US lol. It's just a different game when a girls guard isn't completely 'up' when you say 'hi' to her lol. 'Hi, i'm Matt' in the US is met with ''Hi. I'm Kelly''. IN the UK ''Hi, I'm matt'' will either be met with a girl looking at you like you're nuts and she'll walk away, or she'll blink and ignore you, or she'll tell you to fuck off lol
/r/seduction10/10/19 02:02 PM
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Women don't care nearly as much about looks lmao - I always laugh when I read this on PUA sites as someone who works with a load of girls in an office, oggling/DM'ing random hot guys on insta lol However, i agree he's being insecure. She matched him on bumble - thus thinks he's good looking - thus will bang him if he plays his cards right
/r/seduction10/10/19 12:56 PM
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lulz
/r/seduction07/08/19 12:53 PM
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ANY girl?!! That's freaking awesome. I'd start with Barbara Palvin, I think. And then work my way through the rest of the Victoria secret models!! (although tbh I already dress nice and work out and stuff. Just facially ugly and short lol)
/r/seduction07/08/19 11:58 AM
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''Special NEEDS!!!''
/r/seduction07/08/19 11:47 AM
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I thought so judging by your results! Good stuff!! lucky dude!! You just wait, I'm gonna have a model face ein my next life!! :) haha
/r/seduction07/08/19 11:46 AM
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Of course not, man. I'm not good looking at all and I still go out twice per week too approach and will likely never give up! I've also gotten the odd result. But you initially said it's a misconception that girls are attracted by good looks, and that honestly couldn't be further from the truth in my experience lol (and yours, from what you wrote above!) cheers
/r/seduction07/08/19 09:39 AM
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nice! You must be hella handsome, and i'm guessing ripped! (since I see you frequent the PED's subs?) Good stuff
/r/seduction07/08/19 09:32 AM
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Such a misconception that looks attract girls lol - you should go out with a very good looking dude one night and see what happens! haa my very handsome wings live on god mode despite not having 'game' like this sort of stuff lol https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/8o8os0/frnight_out_with_my_handsome_mate/
/r/seduction07/08/19 09:29 AM
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nightgame numbers are famously flakey. Girls wake up and don't want to look like a slut or they just aren't in teh same emotional state at all, so they just don't really reply much and eventually block you. Lots of PUA's don't even try for numbers when doing night game. Either same night lay or nothing!
/r/seduction07/08/19 08:23 AM
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lol - we were talking about tinder. I was just telling you what it's like for my very handsome friends Personally I deleted it a few months back after 3 years of basaically nothing. haha (Approx one match per month) Girls are just like us when it comes to looks - ESPECIALLY the very young ones, and especially online. But even in general, if you aren't her physical type (she thinks you're ugly, or she's only into black guys or muscly guys or handsome tall guys etc) then no amount of 'game' (whate…
/r/seduction07/08/19 07:50 AM
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that's cool. If one is very handsome, I know they are great. I have a few friends who are super good looking and they've both banged literally hundreds of girls from tinder. They say it's like a free prostitute service lol. They never do 'dates'. Just message the girls 'DTF?' they say ''of course!'', then they send the girl their address and bang her as soon as she enters his place lol
/r/seduction06/08/19 10:16 PM
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Same. Nothing else worked. In fact, even accutane only gave me a few years of nice skin, but for most, it's basically a permanent fix
/r/askTRP06/08/19 08:45 PM
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how does one meet a stranger in person on instagram? Did she message you out of the blue or something? YOu exceptionally handsome? I've never had anything like that on any kind of social media platform so i'm curious lol
/r/seduction06/08/19 07:07 PM
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lol
/r/seduction06/08/19 07:03 PM
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Tay Social, although, he's a handsome, buff dude. I personally want all PUA's to be ugly otherwise I find it completely undermines their results lol. Oh, and vikinglifestyles (although that fucker was bragging about how much money he makes from his PUA coaching/youtube and products, so i'm hesistant to put more business his way! :))
/r/seduction06/08/19 06:10 PM
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Thanks, man. Never give up!! :)
/r/seduction06/08/19 04:38 PM
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1/Be her physical type 2/flirt with her
/r/seduction06/08/19 03:23 PM
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What have you learned to make sure you don't have to do another 200 approaches to get the same results? That's honestly not how it works, unfortunately. It will always be a numbers game to the extent that, if you are not her physical type at all, no matter how good your 'game' is, you ain't gonna get her in bed. You should read goodlookingloser for a realistic idea of how the numbers actually play out. He's like the only honest PUA in my experience. For example, if you are 5, and are hitting on …
/r/seduction06/08/19 07:05 AM
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It's completely dependent on things like your looks, your location, the hotness of the girls etc.
/r/seduction05/08/19 09:30 PM
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lol
/r/seduction05/08/19 08:25 PM
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I dunno man. Also, my brother makes pretty serious bank as an engineer/designing electrical networks for power companies, and he's NEVER had women 'flock' to him lol For what it's worth i'm in the UK - The guys I know who DO have women all over them have a mixture of semi-decent jobs (ones a tree surgeon), and completely broke/unemployed, but they're handsome, fun dudes
/r/seduction05/08/19 06:54 PM
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lol, no. Well, unless you're happy with much older gold-diggers. The super hot, very young ones that most guys desire don't tend to give a shit if you have money or not in my experience. They just care that you're hot!
/r/seduction05/08/19 06:48 PM
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oh God, lol
/r/seduction05/08/19 06:46 PM
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Apps are the biggest waste for me personally. Only ever had any luck in clubs and bars.
/r/seduction05/08/19 06:03 PM
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Are they especially handsome? It's doubly frustrating going out with dudes that are so good looking that are living on 'easy mode' to the extreme. I was out at a really busy event here in the UK (Brighton) on the weekend which was full of hot girls, and the reactions my handsome wingman got were unreal lol. Had girls opening him with comliments and just generally throwing themselves at him. He ended up banging some absolute stunner who was stupidly young and hot, but that's a different story! Fe…
/r/seduction05/08/19 01:39 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/bmnbsl/the_uk_scene/
/r/seduction04/08/19 06:07 PM
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Oh. lol. I didn't know girls even looked at this forum, tbh! As you were...
/r/seduction24/07/19 07:48 AM
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And you're a dude?! Could be a good job to meet girls I guess! lol
/r/seduction23/07/19 09:10 PM
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I can't imagine loving my job! What do you do? Everyone I know literally prays for it to be Friday evening every Monday morning lol
/r/seduction23/07/19 07:46 PM
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Where do you live? I think outside of say central London, this is also the case in teh UK. It's the strangest thing in the world for a girl to get approached by a guy here on the street and being hit on lol. And no, I don't think the fact that it's unusual gives you an 'edge' or makes you 'stand out' positively. I feel more like it makes you look odd lol! For that reason, I also only do night game, personally
/r/seduction23/07/19 01:46 PM
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My problem with all the content to learn game was that most of it is so contradicting - be direct, be indirect, be funny, don't be too funny, be aloof, be the life of the party, show high value, dont brag about your value. lol, exactly. Which is why, there kind of IS no 'game' in a way. Every single PUA has drastically different rules, which means there are no rules. How can there be a game without rules?! When people say 'learn game' it implies actually learning and memorising various things, b…
/r/seduction23/07/19 10:17 AM
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Where's the value? What are you offering? At that point, nothing. confidence and manliness and vulnerability I guess I don't think someone who gets rejected with that sort of approach in the day would have 'got' the girl if he instead used a different 'method'. They know whether they will give you a shot within like 0.25 seconds lol
/r/seduction23/07/19 10:12 AM
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why do girls DM random good looking guys on insta etc and approach handsome guys in bars, though? I thought girls don't care about looks?
/r/seduction19/07/19 10:51 AM
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suddenly notice she has yellow teeth Girls don't care about looks at all, don't forget
/r/seduction19/07/19 10:50 AM
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They know within 1 second whether they'll let you bang them, in the same way we do
/r/seduction19/07/19 09:08 AM
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That's like saying, "Hey! Don't enjoy food that tastes good. You can eat it but you better not love it!" lol, so true. I'm seeing lots of these weird sort of posts recently. Alpha male wannabes suggesting people can somehow turn into robots and switch off all feelings and senses. ''Stop being hungy!!'' lol. If someone is like ''I wanna approach this really hot girl I work with'' everyone is like ''Dude. 'Really hot girl'?!! you've already lost!! You put her on a pedestal. It's over''. People nee…
/r/seduction18/07/19 10:56 PM
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Most of the guys who run pickup in my experience find success mainly because by going out and making thousands of approaches they're just more likely to run into the women who are naturally interested I've been saying this for years. People are like ''TylerRSD banging that model proves that game is all you need. Looks don't matter'' and i'm thinking ''No. He gets rejected a TON. He admits it himself. As do most PUA's. What it proves is that if you approach enough girls, you're likely to find one…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/19 06:56 PM
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not bullshit, but it's also not really a 'skill' as such. There's no magic words or lines etc that will make a girl who thinks you're not good looking want to bang you. It's just a numbers game. But it WORKS because it's simply shifting the odds in your favour for that very reason (numbers game) I DO advocate cold approach personally though, and I do it a few nights per week, and i've had some good results despite not being good looking. But that is due to the fact that some girls either have we…
/r/seduction18/07/19 10:02 AM
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I think it's incredibly rare, tbh. We sometimes have a false idea of things because we watch cherry picked infields where PUA's delete all their rejections and upload their better interactions after finally getting an instant date after 700 approaches, and they're usually fairly handsome, and hitting on tourists or girls in countries where it's easier as an American/Brit etc. It makes us think it's easy/common/viable Like, it can happen, but you need to be good looking (in her eyes) and she need…
/r/seduction18/07/19 09:19 AM
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That said, your use of the word "crush" means you've already lost. You're overinvested. That just means he thinks she's hot, lol. Don't read too much into things
/r/seduction18/07/19 09:14 AM
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I've had similar age gaps, and i'm broke af! lol. Luck though. (hottest girl i've ever banged by far) Sometimes a hot girl just thinks you're hot, even if you aren't. Personal taste, I guess
/r/seduction17/07/19 06:06 PM
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Young girls are probably even MORE about looks than us guys lol.
/r/seduction16/07/19 05:23 PM
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Time. And lots more reference experiences. So keep hitting on new girls. Eventually, with a bit of luck, you replace shitty memories with good ones!
/r/seduction16/07/19 04:57 PM
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For the most part. Mystery Method, RSD (old stuff mostly), mASF, Lovesystems etc. Cool. As I suspected. I've read all that stuff. it's interesting Most things post 2010 tends to go towards empty platitudes and selling the user a vision of his future- the actual content is usually bad or non-existent. Yes, this has been my experience. I found it really frustrating as sometimes I'd read a modern 'game' book, and i'd come away from it feeling like i'd actually learnt NOTHING that I can apply in set…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/19 01:38 PM
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B/c most naturals don't have actual game as we understand it. What they do have is amazing attitudes and beliefs about themselves, women and interactions. So what is 'game' as you understand it? Because nowadays it seems that all 'game' info that I read in books etc boils down to 'inner game' which is like ''remember you are the prize, bro!!'' kind of stuff. Meditation. Develop positive attitudes etc (kind of what you describe above) Are you referring to more mysterymethod stuff like opinion ope…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/19 12:53 PM
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yeah, but using the theory that 'as soon as she knows you're interested in her she'll lose interest', you'll never get to fuck her. As soon as you take your dick out she knows you want her :)
/r/seduction16/07/19 11:35 AM
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but at some point you gotta go for the kiss or try to bang her, and when you do, she'll reject you because she now knows she can have you
/r/seduction16/07/19 10:10 AM
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so the lesson is to never ever show interest? Obviously it means you'll never get laid (since as soon as you show interest/go for the kiss or whatever, she'll reject you since she now knows she can have you), but as least she'll always want you? haha
/r/seduction16/07/19 10:07 AM
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Any particular reason?
/r/seduction12/07/19 06:41 PM
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it's hard for newbies, because about HALF of 'experts' are obviously extremely against any sort of directness such as compliments etc and it must be so hard to know what/who to listen too If people realised that game is more about closing girls who are somewhat into you (not messing it up) rather than somehow 'forcing' attraction in a girl who isn't, they'd realise that there's nothing wrong with a compliment and it can also be a great way to move the interaction forward which is something new g…
/r/seduction12/07/19 09:26 AM
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I'd just like to point out that rejections don't necessarily have to mean much - maybe you're just not her type, nothing to learn there. Exactly. I hate it when people think a rejection has to mean something. I've even heard people be like ''Maybe my angle of approach was a few degrees off'' etc. There's unlimited variables so you can't really 'learn' from rejections in general. Most likely, as you say, you simply weren't her type. It IS a numbers game. People will tend to pull girls (if their g…
/r/seduction11/07/19 09:10 PM
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leg lengthening surgery is not much fun, but I guess needs must!
/r/askTRP11/07/19 05:43 PM
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And just easier if you speak good English. Bit of a halo effect lol
/r/seduction10/07/19 07:48 PM
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Nice. I LOVE hitting on foreign girls (especially in Eastern Europe etc) I find my success rate goes up about 300% lol
/r/seduction10/07/19 07:33 PM
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Good stuff, man.
/r/seduction10/07/19 07:32 PM
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no amount of game'/'skill' will get a girl into bed who thinks you're ugly or whatever on a cold approach, which is why it IS and always will be a 'numbers game' too an extent. The skill comes into play when it comes to not messing up and losing the attraction she has for you by displaying zero confidence, being needy and weird etc etc. Or through being good at leading the interaction in a sexual direction etc. That's what 'game' is, really. You could have the best game in the world and strike o…
/r/seduction10/07/19 12:55 PM
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had like 4 hookups within 3 years For what it's worth, that's more than a LOT of my friends lol. I swear, i'd love to see stats on this. I feel like fewer people than ever are getting laid with different girls regularly
/r/seduction10/07/19 12:29 PM
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correct
/r/seduction10/07/19 09:37 AM
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THe simple answer is that you need to be 'good looking' (ish) in HER eyes! I don't think there's any proof to the contrary. Looks matter a ton (my handsome wing can basically pull any girl he wants!), but that doesn't mean you need to be model handsome People like to use TylerRSD to show that you don't need to be handsome or that 'game beats looks', but I maintain that the girls who he DID bang, thought he was handsome enough. He approached an absolute shit load. He was bound to find girls who t…
/r/seduction10/07/19 09:35 AM
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lol, UK! All legal here, Guvnor!
/r/seduction09/07/19 10:28 PM
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Long story short, it sucked for years, tbh. I feel it hurt me a little. I looked like a little kid whilst some of my friends looked like men. However, once I got old (late 20's), it started to be awesome! I had the kind of 'natural' confidence that you tend to get simply as a result of feeling more comfortable in your skin which comes with age, combined with looking young. What this meant was that young girls thought you were their age (ish), but had a certain kind of confidence that they weren'…
/r/seduction09/07/19 09:26 PM
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Wasn't this like 4 years ago when I first saw this post? I wouldn't worry about it now. You probably creeped her out a bit, but it was a long time ago, and i'm sure she's moved on and got married and shit by now
/r/seduction09/07/19 12:42 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/bhk2ty/its_less_about_having_game_and_more_about_not/
/r/seduction07/07/19 11:02 AM
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''Girls don't care about looks'' hahaha Read this FR, lol: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/8o8os0/frnight_out_with_my_handsome_mate/
/r/seduction06/07/19 08:51 AM
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I find escalation easy when I know she's into me but in situations like that when I sense zero sexual interest, I find it hard to know how to play it. How would you have escalated in that situation? (I had a similar situation recently and I began to escalate by telling her she was cute, but the consensus here on TRP seems to be that you should never tell a girl that) So yeah, how would you have begun escalation? What would you have said/done? cheers
/r/TheRedPill30/06/19 04:32 PM
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This is the UK. 16 is legal and there's no age gap laws
/r/TheRedPill30/06/19 08:18 AM
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funny thing is that it was a perfect opener depending on what school of thought you belong too lol. That's why 'game' is so funny. Everyone didsagrees about everything! Jeffy RSD would say, ''perfect!! YOu gave a false time constraint. You disqualified yourself. Text book game'' lol But yeah, I don't think the opener was the problem. I think I just wasn't eher type, and I don't think there's much more I could have done verbally to make her want me tbh
/r/TheRedPill29/06/19 10:34 PM
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other girl was 18. Dude was about 20
/r/seduction29/06/19 10:31 PM
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thanks, For what it's worth, I'm good with eye contact and stuff, and I don't mind sexualising conversatino etc. (I done that talking about some recent hookups in Budapest that I had)
/r/TheRedPill29/06/19 03:48 PM
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I had a feeling someone would bring up the opener, although that's actually an opener that rsdJeffy used before. He say it's good. He also uses ''I'M the next moron of the night come to hit on you'' lol And with the compliments, do you personally never show (verbalise) intent or anything then? I find without some sort of statement of intent, the chances of hooking up are usually zero as it stays 'friendly' rather than sexua. Also, I though most redpill advice is all about being very direct, so e…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/19 03:41 PM
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Yeah, I already work out and have good fashion etc. I think i'm about at my limit, tbh. (short of steroids and facial surgery :))
/r/TheRedPill29/06/19 02:39 PM
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Yes, and I do better with older girls, but i'll be completely honest. I find young girls about 50x hotter and so they are my targets most of the time. Besides, i'm always reading 'looks, age, money etc doesn't matter. ONly game!!'' so i'm trying to test that theory lol
/r/TheRedPill29/06/19 02:38 PM
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Drinking age is 18 here, but hot girls tend to be able to get in lol. They were both drinking vodka. There was a 16 year old girl in my local club a while back who was banging one of the bouncers! I think he had been speaking to them girls earlier. I think he knew them better than me. (as I say, not sure if they met that night before i'd met them, or whether he was actually their friend) Either way, I guess thinking about it, even if he hadn't have turned up, I wasn't really sensing any sexual i…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/19 02:35 PM
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Were them lays from online? Maybe you just feel like you haven't earned it? Like, online 'game' is basically a test of how handsome your face is as opposed to 'game'. Like, lots of the time, there's no skill (unless 'skill' is typing 'meet me at x address at 8pm'' and then kissing her and banging her soon after she walks through the door lol) My better looking friends literally use tinder like free prostitutes lol. They match, tell the girl they're dtf and give their addresss. Arrange a meet. Ha…
/r/seduction28/06/19 01:05 PM
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cringe overload
/r/seduction28/06/19 10:28 AM
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yeah, there's some truth in that, although I have to say, when she is really attracted, the escalation part is a LOT easier than it is for us regualr looking guys. What I mean by that is that girls do so much of the work when they're really into you! I see it again and again with my good looking wing. I'm not handsome, but even i've had girls in the past with weird taste who thought I was handsome, and they make it super easy for me. They are masters. They sexualise convo, drape themselves on yo…
/r/seduction28/06/19 09:33 AM
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Honestly, not really. Like, it depends what you call 'game'. For example, i've rarely ever seen him tease girls. Use push-pull. DHV stories. And I've NEVER seen him Qualifying girls or Disqualifying himself etc So in terms of 'technical game' and teh stuff people talk about when they say 'learn game, bro', nothing. However, he's naturally fairly confident (as you'd expect of someone who's had girls throwing themselves at them from the age of 15). He's relaxed. He can hold a basic conversation. H…
/r/seduction27/06/19 10:02 PM
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My wing gets laid literally with any girl he wants without doing a thing, but he's male model handsome, so we'll forget about him! Nothing to learn there!! I knew a guy a while back who was a great womanizer. Not that handsome, but I feel like he relied on what I call 'niche' game. For example, if a girl can look at you or speak to you for 2 seconds and put you into a 'group' (he's a music dude, he's a biker, he's a rapper type guy, he's a goth) etc, then it kind of guarantees that some girls wi…
/r/seduction27/06/19 09:54 PM
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pretty much. Not many other forums left now though, so it is what it is
/r/seduction27/06/19 09:27 PM
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Looks are the pre-requisite. She must find you physically attractive if you are to have a shot at getting her into bed. Without that attraction, no 'game' will work. The amount of game one needs depends on how handsome she thinks you are. If she thinks you are a 10, you can get away with legit autism. (at least for one lay!) If she thinks you are a hot 7, you can still fuck it up if you don't have 'game' (which can almost be reduced to having a reasonable amount of confidence and social skills a…
/r/seduction27/06/19 07:38 PM
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i didn't really do anything to attract them at all it just happens It's probably just 'keep happening' then. Don't worry about it However, white guy in Asia = girls will THROW themselves at you so you'll need to do even less than usual lol
/r/seduction27/06/19 06:09 PM
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national average is about 6 for a LIFETIME lol
/r/seduction27/06/19 06:07 PM
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About 4 years, and about approx 10,000 posts at a guess (between 4 recurring, different question and various subreddits and even yahoo answers lmao!)
/r/seduction27/06/19 05:09 PM
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lol
/r/seduction27/06/19 04:30 PM
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What is consistently? I approach every weekend if that counts lol (I mean, it's consistent :)) I make maybe 20 approaches on a Fri nights, and 20 on a Saturday night
/r/seduction27/06/19 03:45 PM
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loll this. I average about one like every 2 months!! haha
/r/seduction27/06/19 03:43 PM
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Faily 'apt' thread I was reading ealier actually lol https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/do-people-still-believe-in-game.260769/ Long story short, I basically think most people don't believe in game anymore, really.
/r/seduction27/06/19 10:41 AM
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Glad you like them! I used to post them a few years ago, but it got frustrating reading such massively conflicting advice from people as well as posts from what I assume were teenagers that who are like ''Dude. I get laid on 100% of approaches!! Try a neg hit!!'' etc. But I do think it's useful to document your nights, tbh, so I've started posting the odd FR again!
/r/TheRedPill26/06/19 07:54 PM
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I probably will, at least a few more times and as long as people seem to want to read them! Do you have any input at all by the way? I've kind of moved away from looking for specific advice in terms of rejections. I've been approaching for a few years now and i'm really of the opinion now that it's out of your control and that if you aren't her type, nothing you say will make her want you. I don't feel I could have possibly done any better with any of the intant rejections i've had in the last f…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/19 07:53 PM
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this, lol Id add that if she isn't following you and liking some of your pics, it's likely not even worth it (although I guess there's nothing to lose!) But yeah, it's just about being handsome. If she thinks you're hot she might be receptive to you messaging her and basically asking her out
/r/seduction26/06/19 08:13 AM
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Tyler and Julien are both instructors for RSD (biggest ever dating company. Surprised you aren't aware of them ;)), although you're slightly late to the party as they are now moving away from 'game' and into general self-help. However, there's still a fair few videos and stuff on youtube (although they are slowly deleting their best content)
/r/seduction26/06/19 08:11 AM
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How did the convo go from hitting her up on IG? (more curious than anything else as i've only ever done cold approach on strangers!) Anyway, to answer your question, I know it sounds obvious, but you really can just go for it! There doesn't need to be any pre-text. You don't need to force a sexual topic or ramp up touch to make it smooth. Nothing like that (although them things CAN certainly help with the 'how to kiss' issue, making it smoother etc, and is something that I spent years trying to …
/r/seduction26/06/19 07:54 AM
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Just my opinion, might be wrong :) It's cool. Nice to see someone who isn't pig-headed when it comes to this stuff for once, tbh! I'm the same in how I approach this stuff. Lots of people are very convicted in their opinions but I think so much of it comes down to things like location, how good looking you are, age and tonnes of other stuff. (hence even pros disagree massively on almost ever possible aspect of game!!) Now, for what it's worth, i've been gamnig for maybe 2.5 years and I think i'm…
/r/seduction26/06/19 07:43 AM
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Lots of PUA's say to 'treat her like your little sister' so maybe it's not so bad lol
/r/seduction25/06/19 07:05 PM
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Active dread, negs, and many PUA techniques are not healthy, they all cause some sort of negative feelings in the target but achieves the short term goal, that is to pump and dump I think if negs and stuff (pua techniques) really were so powerful so as to be able to pump and dump random hotties with consistency, it would be a lot more popular than it is!! outergame basically died because it wasn't really very useful in terms of hooking up with a girl. Negs might 'work' on a particular type of gi…
/r/askTRP25/06/19 06:41 PM
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That's why it is wrong o have the mindset that you have to be "her type", to approach and pick up a woman. Her feelings are your work as pick up artist. Nah. You can make her feel feelings by making her laugh or teasing her or whatever, but unless you are her type, you ain't gonna get he in bed tbh. I often see guys making girls laugh and touching and teasing etc, but they still get rejected if they try to actually take the next step and get sexual/ask her out/go for a kiss etc Physical attracti…
/r/askTRP25/06/19 04:12 PM
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I wonder why Julien and most RSD guys always advocate 'squaring up' and standing right in front of her, face on, strong eye contact etc Seems the opposite of what you suggest here (as well as old school mysterymethod etc)
/r/seduction25/06/19 02:29 PM
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I’ve just faced the facts that girls never gonna approach no matter how hot a guy is Maybe in the day time, but at night, this isn't remotely true. My handsome wing get's approached something chronic!!
/r/seduction25/06/19 02:16 PM
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All game theories rely on the person. There's no one size fits all. That's why some guys are like ''Always be direct!! show intent! It's confident and what girls like in men'' and others are like ''Be aloof! Hide your intent!! Girls want what they can't have'' Both believe with 100% certainty that their way is correct but yeah, An ugly guy doing this would be friendzoned for example lol. Or if her attraction wasn't that high she'd just assume you're scared to make a move and would next you
/r/seduction25/06/19 11:05 AM
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It's tough. I'm lucky enough that I have banged SOME stunners, so even if I get told ''Ewww...go away, You're ugly'' (which has happened a lot tbh lol) or just girls blanking me in bars and walking away etc, I tend to just remember prior real life examples of times i've pulled hot young girls from cold approach to remind myself that even though i'm not handsome, there ARE hot girls out there who think I am and thus who I can get in bed! SO just gotta keep playing the numbers game until I find th…
/r/seduction25/06/19 10:41 AM
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I started with a few cold approaches with my limited material Ive memorized so far. Wow. Sounds very retro/old school! (people don't memorise stuff/have 'material' etc anymore). More just 'be yourself', but i'm interested in what you said, tbh. What material did you memorise? Is going onto loud nightclubs a sure fire way to ruin your game, especially as a beginner. Dunno. Some people would say nightclub isn't really 'game' and it's basically just tinder, but on the dancefloor, so all that matter…
/r/seduction25/06/19 08:51 AM
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same. I just lie in this situation
/r/seduction25/06/19 08:11 AM
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I just lie, personally. best way
/r/seduction25/06/19 08:10 AM
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If a girl is acting like a stuck up bitch, for example, an earnest compliment can be very powerful. It demonstrates that you don't give a fuck that she's being insulting/rude toward you, and it shows intent because if you weren't interested you would just walk away. Follow it up with a little teasing and you basically have a push/pull. What earnest compliment do you use? Girls here in the UK are often very rude/stuck up if you open her and you're not her physical tpye Follow it up with a little …
/r/seduction24/06/19 10:48 PM
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Game is being able to bang girls who think you are hot/attractive (which depending on just HOW hot they think you are can be harder, or easier than you'd think, although that attraction is definitely a pre-requisite and out of your control) No amount of 'game' (even using oldschool concepts like disqualifying yourself, negs, cold reads etc etc) will help if you're not her type
/r/askTRP24/06/19 10:06 PM
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Game is being able to bang girls who think you are hot/attractive (which depending on just HOW hot they think you are can be harder, or easier than you'd think, although that attraction is definitely a pre-requisite and out of your control) No amount of 'game' (even using oldschool concepts like disqualifying yourself, negs, cold reads etc etc) will help if you're not her type
/r/seduction24/06/19 09:56 PM
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What helped me not take HARSH rejection personally (like rude rejections that can happen at night, especially where i live!) was going out with wings who actually approach a tonne and watch them get brutal rejections! It makes you realise ''Hey, it's not just me!! I'm not doing anything 'wrong'! My approach isn't weird or whatever. It's just the way it is!'' Fact is, unless you are her physical type AND she's a social girl AND in a good mood or whatever, you're gonna get rejected. Sometimes hars…
/r/seduction24/06/19 09:07 PM
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kid doesn't have to do much to get laid. I would kill someone to be in his shoes. I'm still a kissless virgin who is brutally insec As a white guy in the UK, I can confirm that certain areas are CRAZY good for black dudes! Lots of chavy teen girls (some of whom are sexy as hell) have a 'black guy only' policy in certain areas and venues. I've seen some crazy shit where (non handsome) black guys are punching out of their league BIG TIME due simply to being black. I don't know what it's like where…
/r/seduction24/06/19 07:39 PM
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Thanks for the link, man. I actually think i've read it before. It rings a bell I mean, all I can say is that personally that hasn't been the case for me (being able to flip girls) and Mansons experiences seem to closer reflect my own and everyone i've ever gamed with in person. I really did go through a spell about a year ago of trying to 'stick in' set as long as possible even when girl were like ''Sorry, you're not my type. I'm not interested. Can you leave us alone?''' and carry on chatting …
/r/askTRP24/06/19 04:22 PM
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Cheers. Yeah, i've never really gone out completely by myself here in the UK. I feel it puts you in instant oddball/loner territory here! I did do it a little in Budapest, though. Although, even then, I tended to make guy friends first (travellers are obviously 50x more sociable and receptive to strangers) and then i'd use them and wings to hit on girls
/r/askTRP24/06/19 03:06 PM
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Start taking more charge, and leading. I assure you all those girls you found attractive would have fucked a man who took the lead only if you were her physical type, though. to be honest. I think i'm good at knowing when I have a shot. (she's interested). I've obviously gone through the whole very direct/'take the lead' and escalate model etc before, but realised that it only works if she's into you (you're her type). Girls won't let you take the lead (move them, escalate on them etc) if they a…
/r/askTRP24/06/19 03:03 PM
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lol, true
/r/seduction24/06/19 08:39 AM
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UK here. It's TOUGH! I've stopped talking about conversion rates with people who aren't from here, tbh. They can't relate. They're like ''Dude, you approached 20 girls that night and didn't get laid!!?''. lol. They'd have a fit if they knew how many approaches it typically takes me to bang a girl a few points hotter than me. (only goodlookingloser seems to have realistic numbers when it comes to that) Girls tend to go out here and they really want to just be with their friends. Not chat to rando…
/r/seduction23/06/19 04:00 PM
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Yeah. Obviously way more likely to get a legit rude/harsh rejection when a girl is feeling like Rhianna as guys approach her all night and she's had a few drinks too, plus she's also trying to look cool in front of her friends. I've had some rough ones!!! lol (''Ewww.....you're ugly. Don't talk to me'' etc. I even had a girl push me as hard as she could on the dancefloor once! lmao. It was mortifying at the time but kinda makes me giggle now. She gave me what I thought was an IOI and danced supe…
/r/seduction22/06/19 01:10 PM
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Yeah, I instinctively agree that day game is best for direct, and night game is best for indirect. Some of my approaches were indirect, though. I tend to mix it up tbh. And i kind of think in the long run, it's ALMOST irrelevant as if you're not her type, I kind of thing you'll still be banging your head against a wall even if you are indirect.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/19 10:09 AM
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Honestly I cant remember last time I struggled to get laid in my local club in the UK. That's awesome dude. More power too you. I've only met one guy in my life who can do that (my wing) and he's handsome as fuck lol and has girls throwing themselves at him without him doing/saying a thing. It's crazy! haha Good stuff though. I have to take a harder path and deal with rejection!! it's all good!
/r/TheRedPill21/06/19 05:19 PM
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PUAs inspired people to believe their looks didn't matter, and take immediate action. I did. Turns out, looks do matter, the PUAs were wrong. But they were right that you should believe looks dont matter. If you understand that, then you win. Nice. My feeling is that looks are super important. She needs to think you're handsome/hot. But the bit that never gets spoken about is that there is more variance than people realise, maybe? I'm ugly. I really want to get a nose job when I can afford it. B…
/r/TheRedPill21/06/19 03:55 PM
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lol. Krauser says he gets laid 1 in 60 and he's a pro gaming in an easier environment. If I could always get laid with the no. of approaches I made that night, i'd be the happiest mofo in the world!! Usually it'd take me way way WAY more approaches!! I'm an guly dude and i'm hitting on very hot young girls, so it could take me an unreal no. of approaches lol. But I don't care. All part of the game Goodlookingloser has a good piece about conversion rate: https://www.goodlookingloser.com/laid/inde…
/r/TheRedPill21/06/19 03:05 PM
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Had to happen I guess. Girls have hella options now and we live in a very very superficial world now. The girls care about looks as much as us guys now lol (Guess we can't complain since we've always cared about looks above all else)
/r/TheRedPill21/06/19 11:02 AM
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I've not read any FR's here before (i'm new) so i'll have to keep my eyes out!
/r/TheRedPill21/06/19 11:01 AM
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lol, UK has great slang (Americans seem to love it in my experience), but I think the Aussies might have us beat, tbh! They crack me up
/r/TheRedPill21/06/19 10:19 AM
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Dude, so true! You mist be a Brit!? Only other Brits seem to understand this lol. Social circle is EVERYTHING here!! If you approach a hot stranger, unless she thinks you're handsome as shit, expect a fairly rude rejection lol But yeah, the same girl is banging 3 or 4 of the guys she knows from college/work/social circle etc. It's rough!
/r/TheRedPill21/06/19 10:01 AM
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Some people think that your type of opener depends on things like location and whether the girl is on her own or in a group. I recommend salt water.
/r/seduction21/06/19 09:46 AM
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I think it's the best investment tbh! I'm considering getting a rhino wich will wipe me out and put me in debt, but I tihnk it's worth it. I can't think of anything else rather spend money on tbh! Even holidays etc aren't that much fun if most girls aren't into you. Being good looking is pure life fuel!
/r/askTRP21/06/19 09:45 AM
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Ahh, yeah, in that case I agree. He doesn't have girls approaching him and shit in the day lol (although he still gets crazy IOI's from young girls working the cash registers etc lol) I definitely have girls throwing themselves at me or being very touchy in club environments. you lucky mofo! I wanna be handsome!!!! :) Hopefully in my next life!!¬ lol
/r/seduction21/06/19 08:38 AM
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Unless you’re a 10/10 male model or famous celebrity you’re not gonna have girls crawling all over you with no effort. Not sure about that. My wing is hella handsome, but certainly not a '10' and he really does have hot girls throwing themselves at him on nights out without him doing anything. I'm very jelly!!! I'ts crazy
/r/seduction21/06/19 07:59 AM
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it's the UK. We really don't talk to strangers here, and I think that doesn't translate well into cold approach unless you really are her physical type!
/r/TheRedPill21/06/19 07:21 AM
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Cold approach? How would you describe his 'game'? His typical approach and general 'vibe' etc. Any pua comparisons? I truly want to believe these types of stories, but i tend to think they're just bullshit every time I hear someone be like ''my friend has no arms and is 4ft tall at nearly 70, but he's always banging teenage models'' etc lol In my own life with my own eyes, I don't think i've ever seen anything like your brothers situation, ESPECIALLY from cold approach so it's instinctively hard…
/r/TheRedPill20/06/19 10:59 PM
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Where's the link to original thread? I'm actually planning on getting a nose job as I think that's one of a few facial issues I have that means girls aren't attracted, so i'd love to hear his thoughts!
/r/TheRedPill20/06/19 10:39 PM
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There's always gonna be a 'direct vs indirect' debate, i'm afraid. Fact is, it's basically irrelevant
/r/seduction20/06/19 05:32 PM
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cheers. Happy to have got there in the end!
/r/askTRP20/06/19 04:50 PM
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Thanks dude. Glad you enjoyed it
/r/askTRP20/06/19 04:49 PM
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lol ;)
/r/askTRP20/06/19 04:48 PM
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But you can preselect and get good at reading bodly language Of course! That's why I said game is 'mainly' a lie lol. Knowing when a girl is interested in an aspect of game although, tbh, if someone can't tell then it's less about them not having 'game' and more about them being autistic or something But what i'm talking about is what most people come to subs like this wanting to believe. i.e the idea that you can say and do the right things (''learn game''), and then have the ability to convinc…
/r/seduction20/06/19 01:02 PM
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They're right about 'just approaching' This increases your odds of opening a girl who thinks you're good looking/her type But they're wrong about the 'influence'/mind control/skill element of game. It doesn't exist. It's marketing. No amount of push pull and clever lines with good body language is gonna make some super hot teen who thinks you're old and ugly wanna bang you! It sucks. But it's the truth. Game is 'mainly' a lie.
/r/seduction20/06/19 11:29 AM
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yep. I have a really handsome wing and it's as rare as hens teeth for him NOT to get approached and grinded on by hot young girls. He could pull every single night if he wanted too, but he's pretty loyal to his girlfriend
/r/askTRP20/06/19 11:26 AM
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lol, thanks. More luck than skill, though. it truly is a numbers game, and them numbers will vary massively depending on the girls attraction to you (feels more obvious than ever after re-reading my own lay report lol) It would have been hard to 'mess up' with the girl I banged since I was her type, and literally impossible to bang any of the other girls for whom I wasn't their physical type cheers
/r/askTRP20/06/19 11:20 AM
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7.) Post it - I say time and again that we are all on the same journey! Please share your stories so that all of us can learn, test, review, apply and grow. Yeah, I think it's a shame that the older style Field Reports have largely stopped now. FR's where people wrote almost in script form. (how they opened, how she replied, what they spoke about etc) aren't seen much now. I used to like reading them for opener and convo ideas etc. But over the last few years, the definition of 'game' has change…
/r/seduction20/06/19 11:10 AM
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hmmm, I know what you mean. Seems like you can't win sometimes! I opened a group of girls the other night and purposely ignored the super hot one whilst also making her friends laugh and trying to show value etc, and in the end the hot one left and I never saw her again and I was kicking myself later for not just opening her and being direct!! (however, i'm also aware that she likely simply wasn't attracted to me. That's why she didn't chase/open me. And thus nothing i'd have said or done would …
/r/seduction18/06/19 09:12 PM
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Guilty! :) My bad
/r/seduction17/06/19 09:36 PM
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This. You can't MAKE someone sexually interested in you if you're not her type. In the same way there's really nothing some super fat chick can do to make you want to bang her. Game is about recognising interested girls and escalating in a calibrated way on them girls. Not about somehow using tricks and stuff in order to make them want to bang you. That's the old, antiquated, bullshit idea of game used to trick people out of their money to sell books and courses etc. It doesn't exist
/r/seduction17/06/19 06:37 PM
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Don’t say she’s cute, you’re validating her and she hasn’t done anything to earn it. That's direct game though, tbh
/r/seduction16/06/19 09:23 AM
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I've always thought it's slightly odd, tbh. But I'm British too. It kind of makes girls think ''And you're introducing yourself to me whyyyy?? I didn't ask for your name''. haha Every time I ever hear a stranger approach a girl on a night out here, it's basically ALWAYS ''you alright? How's your night going?'' lol
/r/seduction15/06/19 04:00 PM
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lol. no. Funny without physical attraction is a friend
/r/seduction14/06/19 03:38 PM
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Well personally, I only do nightgame. One or 2 nights per week. And in a night you can do 20 approaches without even thinking about it! Lots of them will be 10 seconds interactions, she not interested, NEXT! Don't worry too much about the numbers aspect. Sometimes you'll get lucky and you might find a receptive girl in just 4 approaches or whatever! All i'm saying is that you do need too approach a lot more if you're looking to get laid form cold approach unless you are some male mode lol ps - Y…
/r/seduction14/06/19 01:18 PM
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Hmmm....Germany is similar to the UK in terms of cold approach. MUCH tougher than what the US guys here will be able to relate too lol All I would say though is that 30-40 approaches over 4 months is nothing! Pro PUAs (say, Krauser, Tom Torerro, even handsome James Tusk!) tend to need like between 20-60 cold approaches to get laid with a hot girl! (according to them) At this point all I can suggest is to approach way more girls, do night game and hit bars (ideally with a wing or 2) and try to ma…
/r/seduction14/06/19 12:54 PM
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You are the prize and if you don't feel that way, work on yourself until you so feel that way. What does that mean in practice? Work out at the gym more? (what if you already work out loads?) Get a better job? (what if you like your job or are already rich?) Meditate or something?
/r/seduction13/06/19 10:20 PM
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you can't force attraction in someone unfortunately lol. If you're not her physical type, youre not her physical type. As Mark manson says 'you can only amplify existing attraction. Not create it''
/r/seduction13/06/19 06:41 PM
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2 spring to mind. Firstly, all the missmatched couples I see got together through social circle/work etc. Never through cold approach!. I always think if he'd have approached her in a bar, he'd have got killed! lol Second thing is personal taste. I know a girl I work with who is beautiful who has the strangest taste in what she considers 'hot'. Her friends all laugh at her for it like ''Him?!!! omg, he's ugly!!' Personally, i'm deffo on the ugly side, but i've banged a few very hot girls. I don'…
/r/seduction13/06/19 06:40 PM
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escalate. Attraction is 95% of it for me. If she's attracted, it's super hard to mess up. If she's not attracted, all the 'game' in the world won't help
/r/seduction13/06/19 06:37 PM
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numbers game, bro. Some teens like old guys. Most don't. Find the ones that do
/r/seduction13/06/19 04:54 PM
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I told you reddit wouldn't like it!! :) hahaha!! The downvotes are slowly creeping up! lol
/r/seduction13/06/19 04:53 PM
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I am in college. So far, I had sex with three girls you're half way towards the national average :)
/r/seduction13/06/19 04:51 PM
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Hmmm....you know better than me how bad the judgement would be where you live so it's hard to me to say tbh 17 and 21 is like nothing here. I have a stunning neighbour who is about to turn 16, and she's always hooking up with various guys older than you!
/r/seduction13/06/19 03:38 PM
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That's not even an 'age gap' to me, but I've learnt from the abuse i've gotten here (reddit) before that things are different in the US, lol, so i'm not really sure what to suggest. Are you saying 18 is the age of consent in your state?
/r/seduction13/06/19 03:08 PM
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Was probably more like 15! I'm sure there's always a few 'insta rejections' that I forget about! Happens tonnes. ''Hi! I'm Jack!'' girl looks at me like i'm homeless and walks away fast :) It's just the nature of cold approaching young, pretty girls who know they're hot, as a slightly below average looking dude, in a country (England) where talking to strangers isn't nearly as normal as the US for example
/r/seduction13/06/19 02:34 PM
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Do you think a man would lie and say he’s younger to dissuade a woman from wanting anything more than sex? It's possible. Not something i've known to happen, but certainly possible, I guess. (his way of showing you this is just a bit of fun and not to catch feels?) However, I did invite him over for a quickie after that and he just said it was hot and declined, but he wants another date still Really? Declined to fuck you again but wants a date?! I'm at least as confused as you, tbh. Men are so c…
/r/seduction13/06/19 02:01 PM
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I actually met her in a bar lol Banged her at her parents house (who were away) that night! Hottest girl i've ever banged i'd say. You need a lot of luck, though. Fact is, despite the whole 'girls like older guys, bro!!' stuff you hear on sites like this, most very young girls will be creeped out by a guy over like 25 hitting on them. So it's numbers game, really. Probably gotta find girls with Daddy issues. Not sure whether chavs are easier to pull or not? (you mentioned chavs) To be honest, in…
/r/seduction13/06/19 01:55 PM
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37 and 17 lol (16 would be legal too btw)
/r/seduction13/06/19 01:41 PM
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if she thinks you are hella handsome, you need to be autistic as fuck to mess it up. If she thinks you're 'fairly handsome' a little 'game' can be enough to close the deal and it's still possible to mess it up if you have 'zero game' in that situation. If you approach a random and she thinks you're ugly, all the game in the world won't do shit. Like, nothing. Sexual attraction will never happen. And yes, of course girls have varying tastes, but for the majority, they will all agree when a guy is…
/r/seduction13/06/19 01:28 PM
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I could give you a success story but I don't think reddit would approve of such an age gap, especially since most users are from thh US (different laws here in the UK lol)
/r/seduction13/06/19 01:24 PM
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As soon as someone has ONE cold approach lay, I think they should use that as a constant reminder that you know what you're doing and that at that point, it's just about finding a girl who is into you. (no game or tips and trick and lines and negs etc will change that) It's actually quite LIBERATING when you accept that it's basically out of your control. Some people hate hearing that (and so did I a while back!!) but now I really feel I know it to be true and I find it liberating which helps wi…
/r/seduction13/06/19 01:22 PM
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Gotta keep going until you find a girl who is attracted lol
/r/seduction13/06/19 12:04 PM
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Bit of a strange situation to lie about bearing in mind your age. Don't judge me, but i've lied about my age tonnes of times to get girls in bed, but that's because I was going for girls who were way way younger than me, and I knew that revealing my true age would scare them off. But that's obviously not the case with you two (since you're similar ages plus you're older than him!), so i'm not sure what to say, tbh. Did you reveal your age first? (I ask in case it's possible that he assumed you w…
/r/seduction13/06/19 10:46 AM
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you can't force attraction on someone unfortunately despite all the 'game' tips and tricks lol Show your intent. If she thinks you're hot, it might work. If you're not her type physically, nothing you do is gonna work, so take teh pressure off yourself
/r/seduction05/06/19 09:49 AM
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ha! Although if he's not her type and she thinks he's ugly, i'd recommend planB and just jumping the kid!
/r/askTRP05/06/19 08:36 AM
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They're in the wrong. If you aren't her type, you aren't her type! And of course if we were all attractive to at least a few super hot girls in a club of 60 girls (which is what your friends are implying?), we'd all have amazing sex lives lol If you were brad pitt in a club of 60 fat old women, you're not gonna wanna bang any of them lol.
/r/seduction02/06/19 04:52 PM
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/r/seduction16/05/19 08:37 PM
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just get it all free lol. Easy to find! hopefully you find a few though and make a few bucks lol
/r/seduction16/05/19 04:26 PM
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lol, who pays for this stuff nowadays!!
/r/seduction16/05/19 03:39 PM
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lol
/r/seduction16/05/19 10:41 AM
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she says ''it's big, isn't it!!?'' (as she's looking at a 60inch TV screen) you reply ''that's what she said!!'' (you're implying that that's what some chick said about your cock or that maybe you thought she was referring to your dick and not the TV screen)
/r/seduction15/05/19 07:04 PM
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I think the answer is to show your intent straight away when you meet a girl, although lots of people say that's bad game and you should be 'aloof'/indirect/make her chase/don't show interest etc But you can't please everyone, and there's so many conflicting PUA philosophies now, you may as well just be super direct tbh
/r/seduction15/05/19 04:00 PM
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What does "learn to make everything you say" means? Means to 'get in the habit of making everything you say'..... So constantly try to remind yourself and practice to make everything you say and do, a kind of insinuation You know what 'insinuation' means? You were just confused about the phrase 'learn to make everything you say' ?
/r/seduction15/05/19 07:41 AM
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having a hobby isn't a powerful game technique in my eyes
/r/seduction09/05/19 02:35 PM
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Good lad
/r/seduction13/04/19 06:11 PM
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Nah. It's what people have been relying in since teh beginning of time.
/r/seduction13/04/19 09:01 AM
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If you're as good looking as he is, then yeah, it's down to 'game'. 7/10 isn't handsome enough that you can completely skate by on your looks like really good looking dudes can. My best friend is like a 9 and he has girls throwing themselves at him like a lynx advert and he doesn't even have game, but his looks get him so much raw attraction that it doesn't matter. He'd need to literally vomit on her lap for him to mess up lol As 7's you will have a good percentage of girls who will give you a s…
/r/seduction12/04/19 11:01 PM
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He's probably a strong 7. That's fine. What people don't realise is that you don't need to be a 9.5/10 male model. She just needs to think you are kinda good looking (if she thinks you're ugly, you don't have a shot no matter what you say/game etc). As a 7, a fair few girls will give you a shot and consider you fairly good looking. That's where charm/confidence/game etc come into play
/r/seduction12/04/19 10:47 PM
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I think American college is generally thought of as the Golden Years in terms of ease of hooking up with hot teen girls! A good looking dude will have girls literally falling into his lap You can probably recreate that ease by going to certain holiday destinations like Vegas, or Magaluf if you are a Brit lol
/r/seduction12/04/19 10:45 PM
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What is he? A 9?
/r/seduction12/04/19 10:42 PM
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I guess it's that never-ending direct vs indirect debate. There was a heavily upvoted post that was the polar opposite to this one last week. Basically, ''i've realised, I'm better of being aloof and not showing intent when I approach'' kind of thing lol. If you open a girl directly and show interest in her straight away, and she blows you off, people will come on here and direct you to 'the mysterymethod' and explain that you need to show disinterest in her and zero intent at the beginning etc …
/r/seduction12/04/19 11:17 AM
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About the same as her looks matter to you
/r/seduction12/04/19 09:27 AM
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Certainly doesn't harm, but just being ripped doesn't necessarily make you handsome/good looking.
/r/seduction12/04/19 08:22 AM
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Same way as you 'game' a girl in your league. Be fun, funny, confident, flirty etc. If she's super beautiful and you're a bit ugly, then you need a lot of luck. It's a numbers game at the end of the day. All of the 'game' in the world will only improve your chances a small amount. But you might just be her 'type' even if you aren't conventuionally handsome. I've pulled some beautiful girls way out of my league before when on rare occasions these hot girls just had unusual taste in mens looks
/r/seduction12/04/19 07:50 AM
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who cares, man. When I was a virgin I was obsessed with slay count and would get insanely jealous at the idea that some people out there had banged hundreds, but once i'd banged like 10 girls, I honestly kinda stopped counting/thinking about it. Main tip is that it's largely out of your control. Be brave, and approach every hot girl you see and see if she's into you or not!
/r/seduction11/04/19 09:40 PM
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well the thing is, height is just another factor of 'looks'. It falls under that umbrella and is an easier one to measure online! Looks obviously matter a shit load with cold approach. If you are ripped and 6ft4, you can get away with having a few facial flaws for example
/r/seduction11/04/19 09:34 PM
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Absolutely, although there is probably a cut off point. At 5'6 I'd say you're just about OK. Best slayer I know is only 5ft 7, but facially he could be a male model, and his body is very good (despite not going to the gym. Crazy genetics. Was on course to being a pro sprinter at one point before breaking his hip!) He literally has girls throwing themselves at him on nights out without doing a thing So yes
/r/seduction11/04/19 09:30 PM
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lol
/r/seduction11/04/19 09:28 PM
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obvoiusly. It's LUDICROUS that it's even a discussion!! For what it's worth, i'm not saying that 'game' isn't a factor, but if she thinks you are hella handsome, you need to be autistic as fuck to mess it up. Or if she thinks you're 'fairly handsome' a little 'game' can be enough to close the deal and it's still possible to mess it up with 'zero game'. If she thinks you're ugly, all the game in the world won't do shit. Like, nothing. Sexual attraction will never happen. And yes, of course girls …
/r/seduction11/04/19 09:14 PM
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game only matters AFTER she is 'into you'/thinks you are her physical type. Especially on a cold approach
/r/seduction11/04/19 09:01 PM
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??? What are you talking about?
/r/seduction11/04/19 08:55 PM
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I tend to agree with zincSF. 'Hit and runs' are kinda good. I'm like 2-3 years in and I still struggle massively with Approach Anxiety. It varies in it's severity, but it's always there. But some of my best nights are when I try to 'tackle' the problem as early in the night as possible, by just saying random things to strangers. ''I like your jacket!' and walk off. ''Don't go in that bar! It's dead!!'' and walk off. etc. Usually, after a handful of these, my anxiety towards a 'real' approach is …
/r/seduction11/04/19 07:02 PM
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Amazing hit rate. You must have hella handsome face! And be tall? Keep it up, dude!
/r/seduction11/04/19 05:42 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/baeguo/budapest_fr/
/r/seduction11/04/19 11:44 AM
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lol, age of consent is 16 here. And possibly even younger where I was! We don't all live in the US lol. She was very much 'of age'
/r/seduction11/04/19 08:00 AM
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Dunno, but i'm 34 and slept with 3 girls (ages 17,18, 23) when I was travelling Eastern Europe last week! ps - I now see why youtube PUA's game in these tourist areas and exploit their accents and hit on girls looking for 'adventure' etc. It's so much easier.
/r/seduction11/04/19 07:56 AM
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This is an example of why I sometimes get annoyed when people are like ''try to work out what you did wrong or right. Just keep practicing until you get the skill down blabla'' as if all that matters is YOU!; I swear to god, it's basically 99% out of your control. You need certain variables (her thinking you're hot, her being single/approachable, her being friendly and in a good mood, etc etc) for an approach to be successful. It IS a numbers game (as you have realised). You could literally buil…
/r/seduction10/04/19 09:07 PM
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RSD have moved largely moved away from pickup now and into self development. Julien and Tyler especially. I expect Jeffy and Max to make the odd pickup vids for a little while longer. The forums went down about 2 months ago. That was the 1st major clue.
/r/seduction10/04/19 05:54 PM
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Personally, I still find night game the only worthwhile way of doing it. With tinder, it's basically only gonna work for the male model looking dudes. it's a contest of who has the best looking face Daygame can work, but it depends on location. Ideally a culture where it's not considered weird, or at least a place full of tourists etc. For example, most of the UK would be bad as we don't talk to strangers, but central London can be good as it's full of tourists etc. In the US, I imagine lots of …
/r/seduction10/04/19 10:39 AM
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I've used the same pics, all from like 3 years ago, so that can't be it lol
/r/seduction10/04/19 07:17 AM
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I do think something has changed. My own stats are similar to yours. I get approx 1 match per month and use up all my swipes each day. I never got loads obviously, but this is madness. A few years back i'd get maybe 6 per month? I have also used various 'tricks' like deleting my account etc, but no change Maybe the novelty has warn off for girls now, and the top 1% of handsome men really are the only ones benefiting from tinder now outside of huge cities full of tourists etc? Dunno
/r/seduction09/04/19 06:10 PM
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I hope you get some good replies because, like you, i've had a fair few hookups/one night stands after approaching random girls in bars, but an actual 'date' just seems so different in my head, and I imagine it being a super awkward affair thus i've always avoided them! I don't even know what i'd talk about. The whole dynamic just feels different to me for some reason. ''Sooo.....you have any brothers or sisters??'' lol. Hard for me to put into words why it feels so different to me, but it just …
/r/seduction09/04/19 09:22 AM
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I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Hell, this sub is super keen on mark Manson, and he advocates direct game to the point where like the first thing you say is basically telling her she's hot. I guess it just depends on what type of 'game' you believe is best. But yeah, if you want to start experimenting with very indirect game instead and being aloof etc and not showing 'intent', then the answer is simply to stop flirting so soon and so much lol. Like, just stop doing it. I don't thi…
/r/seduction08/04/19 08:34 PM
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Yeah, I see. I also think that complete newbies should probably go with very direct game because it feels like some people struggle so much with showing any sort of intent at all (either through fear, or due to their understanding of something like the mysterymethod) that they never get anywhere. Even when a girl is into them. Yeah, Jeffy said he gives statements of intents almost instantly, although they are more things like complimenting her on her outift and stuff and saying ''you look rather…
/r/seduction08/04/19 03:52 PM
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I was watching some rsdJeffy stuff today, and he says one should pepper in 'statments of intent' almost instantly. Confused me as I thought this goes against the mysterymethod which I gather RSD was based upon? And then there other others who teach that you should 100% show your intent from the get go, even in terms of how you open, since hot girls always know why you're talking to them. I guess there's a few schools of thoughts. PS - I posted a few FR's recently. From my time in Budapest last w…
/r/seduction08/04/19 02:41 PM
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yeah. Some hot, female sex worker, I gather (cam girl)
/r/seduction07/04/19 05:21 PM
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matched 86 out of 92 swipes??! I get one match ever 500 swipes or so lol
/r/seduction07/04/19 03:52 PM
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hmmm...I wouldn't say we're in complete agreement, tbh. I think facial aesthetics (and height) are extremely important when we are talking about 'looks' and these things are hard to fix and can be a deal breaker for a fair few girls
/r/seduction07/04/19 02:42 PM
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honestly? She needs to think you are kinda good looking. It's as simple as that. Doesn't mean you need to be a male model, and don't forget the important thing which is that different girls have different tastes. I'm a short, ugly dude, and i've pulled a couple of very hot, much younger girls in the last few years who basically made the first move. They thought I was hot, despite the fact that likely no other girl in the bar did! Do the best with what you have. Try to get in shape. Dress like th…
/r/seduction07/04/19 02:10 PM
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Maybe that's why "dating coaches" have such a wide variety of advice on the topic. Finding out what works for you in particular is really key with this type of stuff. Bingo! I've been gaming for like 3 years, but even after like 2 days of reading books and stuff, my first thought was ''Wait. Everyone is giving VERY different advice, yet they are all apparently experts at this stuff. I don't' get it!!'' I'm now convinced that it's mainly about finding a 'way' that works for you and your natural p…
/r/seduction07/04/19 01:10 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p3j294sqM8
/r/seduction06/04/19 04:17 PM
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no, but i've lied MASSIVELY the other way to allow me to bang teenagers even though i'm old lol
/r/seduction01/04/19 09:48 AM
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i've never had a date (and i'm kinda old!) as I imagine all dates being like that! I've had a fair few one night stands, though. Just feels like way less pressure to walk up too a random girl in a bar, if she's not interested after a few seconds, I can just walk away onto the next one
/r/seduction01/04/19 09:21 AM
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Yeah, it's weird how, as you say, your self-esteem can fluctuate. I went through a stage of having very little approach anxiety for a while, but ever since I got a few bad rejections from her girls the other night (kind of ''Ewww....never gonna happen. Bye!!'' after I opened) i've been such a pussy. Was out last night and there were these 3 girls dancing, one of who was a freaking angel. Little teen blonde thing with stunning eyes and perfect body, but the idea of her being into me/my looks and …
/r/seduction31/03/19 12:03 PM
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Even though I kind of agree with the other dude about it being silly to use famous people in examples when it comes to pulling girls, you're reply made me actually lol irl!
/r/seduction31/03/19 09:25 AM
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Use the magic of 'game' to make her super attracted to you......only joking!! If she reacts like that too an open (as a fair few girls do in my experience, especially in bars) then it's a lost cause and you don't stand a shot, even if you had all of the best PUA's in the words telling you what to do through an earpiece. You just aren't her type lookswise, basically Probably best to just laugh and walk away. I know it's tempting to give them some shit back though, and not gonna lie, I have done t…
/r/seduction31/03/19 09:19 AM
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nice, man. You must be a good looking dude. Keep it up!
/r/seduction31/03/19 08:54 AM
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just gotta keep going until you find a 'yes girl'. It's a numbers game
/r/seduction30/03/19 03:55 PM
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you've made me wanna watch porn!! haa. I actually approached 3 absolute stunners last night who all insta-rejected me. Porn is looking good again! lol
/r/seduction30/03/19 11:50 AM
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Honestly, i'm far from a 'game denier' but I think most PUA's are kind of living in a dream world. 'Game' only really comes into play with 'maybe girls'. If she's a hard 'no girl' (a hot 9/10 who is stuck up and thinks you look like ass), I don't believe your 'game' will have any effect. At all. You can be 'aloof' Neg her. DHV about your model ex girlfriend. Try to make her laugh. Be super direct. Tease her etc. Whatever. She's not letting you near her pu$$y. More than likely she'll walk away wi…
/r/seduction29/03/19 11:01 AM
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what do you talk about? Give an overview of what like the first 20 mins look like in terms of conversation
/r/seduction28/03/19 09:49 PM
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Just 'going for it' is good practice and probably the 'right' thing to do, although, if she hasn't given you an IOI and you're not super handsome, you can be damn sure (99%) it'll be a rejection lol. Try anyway, though
/r/seduction28/03/19 08:03 AM
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lol, I know what you mean. I always see people write ''I went over there and ran game on her'' and then he explains what he done was said 'hi', asked her name, asked what she was up too'. So, 'game' = being a normal person and having a conversation with a stranger lol. Most people really shouldn't have to 'learn' this. Most people just 'know' to say hello to someone if they want to talk to them or too ask what their name is early in a conversation. It's like socialskills 101 for Edward Scissorha…
/r/seduction05/10/18 03:29 PM
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he's been posting this for about 4 years. Known Troll
/r/seduction05/10/18 03:24 PM
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what do you write to them in teh 3-5 messages to 'make them laugh? So it's basically say the line to make them laugh and then say 'lets go out. How does Thursday sound?' sort of thing. No small talk etc
/r/seduction05/10/18 03:04 PM
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But lets not get into the looks over game discussion. I still want to have the best game I could have. agreed. Although you need to realise that if you can pass for an '8' you are on a completely different playing field to lots of the guys here who are struggling. It's almost cruel to be telling people that it's their game that's lacking. Yeah, maybe you're friend has autism or something? That sounds weird. All of my handsome friends have got like 100 N-counts and they really don't need to do an…
/r/seduction05/10/18 12:36 PM
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''if you are still using "Hey, how's your night going" then you can expect to get blown out almost every time just off of the opener alone.'' lol, your opener doesn't matter. That opener is more than fine. What's important is how you say it. If you are getting auto rejected even when you go indirect then it's most likely that you are forgetting to use a false time constraint and or it's your body language, eye contact, or your physical appearance Ding Ding! Don't fall into the PUA trap. Whenever…
/r/seduction05/10/18 11:55 AM
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Dude, i'm jelly! lol I made an almost identical approach on a girl last week where I work but she was like ''Sorry, you're not my type!'' kind of thing. Felt gutted. I wanna be handsome too, dammit! haha. Keep it up
/r/seduction17/09/18 06:27 PM
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I think Todd is definitely useful, although I think a lot of his stuff is overly complicated with his throwing a million ideas at you and then you think you need to implement and cram ALL of them ideas into each set which would take the Rainman to do! I think he's probably one of the best PUA's though, tbh You're a fairly good looking dude by the way. I wouldn't even tell you that if I didn't believe it. I'd just ignore that point lol. You're no male model, but if you walked into a busy bar, the…
/r/seduction22/07/18 10:24 AM
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you're saying to get comfort first and then go into flirting, this is wrong. whenever you meet a girl that you want to have sex with, attraction should come first, always. you don't go in there trying to build comfort and rapport, that's ineffective. you need to go in and be presented as a sexual prospect immediately. that is the cornerstone of what you should be doing This is what i've always done ever since reading the mysterymethod some years ago, although i'm not entirely convinced that it m…
/r/seduction22/07/18 10:17 AM
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Maybe 'pre-selection' was the wrong term. I've heard that term to mean a few things, but I think that she thought he was hot the second he said 'hi' and from there it's usually a done deal in my experience
/r/seduction21/07/18 05:06 PM
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OR T.L.D.R. - He was her physical type. He couldn't fuck it up really. I think basically every pull i've ever seen is preselection rather than 'game' tbh. For game to work, she needs to be into you
/r/seduction21/07/18 05:00 PM
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cry.
/r/seduction21/07/18 03:57 PM
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Depends what city you are in (more importantly what country) In the UK, trying to get in with a group of random guys - appraoching them and making conversation and trying to hang with them all night will just result in them trying to 'lose' you lol. It's considered very strange. You are expected to have your own group in the UK and it sets of massive alarm bells if you are on your own trying to make friends. In most of the US, it's fine though
/r/seduction21/07/18 09:29 AM
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22 Why not just go for really young girls if it bothers you? 16 is legal in the UK if that's where you are
/r/seduction21/07/18 09:27 AM
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they're escalating and then getting rejected. That's how it goes. Girls don't want to get escalated on by a guy they aren't sexuallly attracted too. It's simple tbh
/r/seduction20/07/18 06:20 PM
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He's probably being modest. 80 million views would translate into a nice lump of cash. No need to quit school. He probably has mad fun (youtube fame means a guaranteed constant flow of hot pussy) with it plus it gives him a backup plan.
/r/seduction20/07/18 05:40 PM
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Too many unquantified variables. Like the idea that some dude is basically guaranteed to get laid with no 'game' with 200 approaches. If the guy is like a 5/10, he could make a thousand approaches and he'd probably never get close to banging an 8+ If he's handsome, he could get laid in maybe 15 approaches with no 'game' with a 6.5+ (he'd struggle with -9's-10's) And also, I think 'game' is given way too much credit. I do believe in it as it's hard to argue that social skills and charisma etc (ga…
/r/seduction20/07/18 05:36 PM
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game doesn't seem to be able to MAKE girls attracted to you though, tbh. Like no matter how many negs and cold reads you say, some girls won't be into you based on your looks. Although it can help make them not lose attraction (such as passing shit tests etc)
/r/seduction13/07/18 12:07 PM
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I didn't read the post but isn't this kind of simple? I'm always surprised when people mention this 'double standard'. For a girl it's the easiest thing in the world to get laid. Even if you are a 5/10 you can just ask a guy for sex and almost every guy will say yes./ Even guys who are like 8's will say yes if they are feeling horny enough. For a guy, you'd need to be like a 10/10 in looks for that tactic to work Prostitutes are basically all women. Pussy is hard to get and worth a lot. Not the …
/r/seduction13/07/18 10:35 AM
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Who told you that?!! Every time I go out it's the good looking guys hooking up and the ugly dudes getting rejected non stop!
/r/seduction13/07/18 08:06 AM
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Nooo....I think we're on cross purposes. There is another PUA type dude (more of a vlogger but also does infields) and he is American but he lives in like Tailand or somewhere where being white and american is like gaming on super duper EASY mode when hitting on locals
/r/seduction12/07/18 10:28 PM
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/r/seduction12/07/18 09:34 PM
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you want to bang him because he's hot? LOOKS DON'T MATTER!!! :) :) :) :)
/r/seduction12/07/18 04:34 PM
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Man, every PUA really exploits how much easier it is to pick up tourist and travellers and stuff lol. I noticed this back when RSD first got big and now every PUA is always hitting on travellers and stuff because it's just 10x easier for so many reasons (higher value, accent and 'exotic' look can helpt attract, travellers looking for experiences whilst they're away from home and so are easier to convince etc etc) The funniest one is that dude (can't remember his name) but he's a decent lookking …
/r/seduction12/07/18 01:54 PM
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'' You can’t sell a pen to someone that does not need one'' I don't necessarily disagree, but Then are you saying that it's pure numbers game? Old school game seemed to suggest that this was the whole point of 'game'. You MAKE them interested and attracted to you. Otherwise I struggle to see the point in even trying to learn this stuff If it's a matter of'she's either into you or she's not' then there's really nothing to learn
/r/seduction12/07/18 09:34 AM
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if you're good looking you can bang 2-3 girls per DAY in tinder and bang thousands of girls. I don't think the tactics matter that much with online dating. Everyone is basically on it to get laid
/r/seduction11/07/18 11:24 PM
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mainly broken links/deleted posts and 'inner game' stuff that I doubt will help when it actually comes to gaming/seducing a girl
/r/seduction11/07/18 11:21 PM
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thanks. At least i'm pretty sure i'm doing the same 'things' as you now and not missing any huge pieces of the puzzle, but just that i'm not able to get the attraction that you are. For what it's worth i'm pretty ugly! haha - SO girls 'like' me, but don't want to bang me. Anyway, i'll keep trying for a while Thanks man.
/r/seduction13/06/18 07:38 AM
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A2 is where you generate female to male interest. Classically, that only becomes possible under MM if you have shown some value. Yeah, feels like this is my problem! Generating attraction in her. I'm typically fairly aware of this in the moment, but i'm never able to turn the ship around. I think my tools to do this are things like cold reads, DHV stories (told well), routines (strawberry fields etc) And also humour and teasing. I get that body language and sub communications etc are important, …
/r/seduction12/06/18 10:36 PM
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/u/judahman8
/r/seduction12/06/18 10:24 PM
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I tend to think that the better looking you are, the more sense it makes to go 'direct'. I think if you aren't handsome, direct feels a bit like suicide lol I guess /u/judaman8 and /u/wia20xx have different thoughts to you on this, but then that's what makes the PUA world go around. Nobody agrees on anything lol
/r/seduction12/06/18 02:14 PM
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isn't that just pure 'numbers game' though? Will only 'work' if she thinks you are super handsome and makes her choose/decide straight away?
/r/seduction12/06/18 12:43 PM
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haha
/r/seduction27/05/18 11:51 AM
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lol
/r/seduction11/05/18 12:30 PM
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Game = Mystery Method You must be new to seddit! lol.
/r/seduction11/05/18 12:17 PM
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You still have to learn game But game = being yourself? 'What you say doesn't matter' etc, as seddit says
/r/seduction11/05/18 12:06 PM
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haha! He was a lot better looking than me!! ;(
/r/seduction10/04/18 06:26 PM
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People are generally way less social with strangers in the UK. People seem to go out alone more in the US, since they know they'll likely be able to 'make friends' and wiggle their way into ready formed groups of friends etc and not be bored. This also helps when it comes to approaching girls, since she thinks them guys are your friends. In the UK, you are way less likely to be able to attach yourself to strangers for the night as they don't want some random dude interrupting their night out wit…
/r/seduction10/04/18 02:22 PM
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Day game is fine to do it alone. However in bars ESPECIALLY IN THE UK, I would certainly advise to go out with friends.
/r/seduction10/04/18 09:58 AM
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At one point you start to not even care about it anymore and just go over to the next girl... Yeah, I guess i'm not 'there' yet, lol. I found myself starring at her and the good looking dude she pounced on from across the room like a sad, confused puppy! haha
/r/seduction10/04/18 09:33 AM
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maybe he didn't suck at all though? He just wasn't her type? Mostly results aren't about 'game' or 'skill', but in finding girls who think you are cute, basically But yes, deffo better to get rejected than to never try! I got kiss rejected last night. That stung! lol
/r/seduction10/04/18 09:24 AM
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I got denied a makeout last night! lol Only the 2nd time it's ever happened as I tend to only go for the kiss when i'm pretty certain that she likes me! Sucks because she was cute and I thought she was into me. She was super receptive to my kino, touching her neCk, her waist. We were somewhat isolated etc. Lots of eye contact and giggling etc. Then I went for the kiss. DENIED!!!! The only other time i've been rejected, I ended up getting the kiss about 30 mins later on attempt number 2! Unfortun…
/r/seduction10/04/18 09:01 AM
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You don't seem to have a plan though Since he's talking about conversation, and you talk about having a 'plan', are you saying once should already know before hand about what topics they are going to talk about etc, and basically know exactly what they are going to say, and when etc? What about 'natural game'? ta
/r/seduction08/04/18 06:58 PM
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I think this is a problem due to how when game was first taught, they sold the idea that game (negs, push-pull blablabla) was some kind of black magic that could make girls want to have sex with you. And everyone believed it! Things have moved on now, and most people don't see it this way anymore. Fact is, game is mostly about approaching girls and trying to find the ones who are already into you! From that point, you could argue that 'game' plays a role, in that it makes it less likely that you…
/r/seduction07/04/18 02:51 PM
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I did used to think of it as a 'skill' to be honest, although I find it hard to think like that anymore. My wing has zero game, but is legit male model tier handsome, and i'd put him against any top PUA in the world based on the success i've seen him get! lol - It's staggering! When there are seemingly no rules in game anymore, it's hard to think of something as a skill, really. Back in the mysterymethod days, I used to think of it as a skill due to how rigid it all seemed, lines to remember, so…
/r/seduction07/04/18 02:07 PM
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Literally ask one of these studs. Ask them to give it to you in autistic detail exactly how each hookup happened. When you get the answer, don't forget to PM me!! I always find this stuff so interesting! I put my ego to one side sometimes and ask guys how they hooked up with girls. I have a friend who is in his 30's, he's decent looking, although no male model. And he is ALWAYS banging teenagers that he works with!
/r/seduction06/04/18 10:36 PM
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By just pretending to be confident ;)
/r/seduction06/04/18 12:37 PM
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LOL, I'll tell you something. I've noticed that almost EVERY bit of advice when it comes to seduction has another large group of PUA's saying it's completely wrong. It's almost getting silly now, to the point that there's no point in even attempting to 'learn' it! There seems to be a new trend in the industry where PUA's are going out of their way to DEBUNK commonly held theories. This is happening now more than ever before! Funnily enough, I see RSD debunking THEIR OWN theories now! (often betw…
/r/seduction05/04/18 07:57 AM
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they just into looks, you mean? It feels that way for the young girls I approach in bars in the UK. 'game' doesn't make them want you. It's more just looks. Same as us with them! lol
/r/seduction05/04/18 07:48 AM
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look like they are just confused when someone approaches them lol, this is how I feel with about 96% of British girls! Even during the night. It's so funny when compared to US girls who seem so much more approachable, on the whole
/r/seduction04/04/18 09:21 PM
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Sounds like lots of 'No' girls, who largely make up their mind the second they lay their eyes on you based on your looks and what they go for in a guy. I don't think there was anything better you could have said/done, so don't worry
/r/seduction04/04/18 07:40 PM
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that's totally normal unless you look lke an abercrombie model! Don't sweat it!
/r/seduction26/01/18 10:35 AM
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decent post. It's a bitter pill to swallow as someone who has never had a 'career' and is old, lol. I've just always been very unintelligent and so struggle to do anything other than minimum wage work to be honest. It definitely doesn't help. Living in a shoe box, no car etc. Woud be nice to be rich and have an amazing lifestyle etc I guess the only saving Grace is that I've never really wanted a girlfriend as such. I just want sex with hot young girls. And so in that sense, not having a career …
/r/seduction25/01/18 11:47 AM
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Since we now live in a time where 'natural game' rules the roost and 'what you say doesn't matter'' ''no routines!!'' etc etc, would you be kind enough to define what game actually means to you in practical terms? What does a guy 'running game' do that someone without game doesn't etc? Are you talking about simply showing your intent as was someone aboves definition? Are you talking about things like cold reading? teasing?
/r/seduction25/01/18 08:41 AM
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i've read every book about game known to man, lol
/r/seduction24/01/18 09:55 PM
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I personally agree with this. But game purists would not like that idea, as it makes it sounds like 'numbers game'. Finding the girls that are already into you, and then escalating. IN fact, old school pickup (which is still taught) almost advises the opposite of what your definition of game is. They try to NOT show interest and to only show it after she does first, and even then, show it in a way that CAN be missinterpreted (the banckhanded compliments etc) Funny old game!
/r/seduction24/01/18 02:43 PM
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Sexually attracted, though? Personally, I'm pretty sure that every girl i've ever gotten thought that I was good looking, and that's what made her wanna have sex (ps - i'm not good looking! Just that obviously different girls have different tastes. Some have messed up tastes! :))
/r/seduction24/01/18 02:39 PM
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it's not my personal view, but i've read that a lot of times of various pickup forums and blogs - usually those that subscribe to the mystery method in my experience. Mystery himself spoke about the '5 for 5' thing, so maybe that's where it began?
/r/seduction24/01/18 02:39 PM
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how do you make her excited to talk to you? How do you open and transition after teh open in general with girls in bars/clubs? My interactions are mainly 10 second rejections lol
/r/seduction23/01/18 11:34 PM
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His name is Peter. I've seen vids of him
/r/seduction23/01/18 03:47 PM
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cool. I think this is just a thing that happens to good looking guys. Enjoy it, lol
/r/seduction23/01/18 03:39 PM
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i've never gotten close to getting a girls nudes so can't help lol. How'd you do it? Are these girls you've already banged?
/r/seduction23/01/18 01:29 PM
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oh. . Not trolling at all, dude. I thought you were cold approaching for some reason
/r/seduction19/01/18 06:44 PM
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how does your game look now for night game? IN for tips!! Give me a 'mini-manifesto' about your vibe. How you open. How you hook. How You get physical. The main things that have turned your results around. Are you the indifferent guy who waits for them to show interest first? Are you the giant flirt who is clear with his intent? Are you super physical? Self amused guy? More serious and routine based? etc etc
/r/seduction19/01/18 05:36 PM
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I must admit, I tend to find that lots of the more interesting posts about technical things and outer game etc get ignored and downvoted! It's weird. Seddit is more of a selfhelp/get motivated/anti depression forum as opposed to a 'game' sub, really. I think someone should make a proper 'seduction' sub. Not just 'numbers game, if she's not interested, move on!''. I think we've moved on from mystery who believed it was possible to get EVERY girl with 'game', but I think the community has moved to…
/r/seduction19/01/18 08:54 AM
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It's not actually that unusual, funnily enough. My 10 year old nephew has also got absolutely kickass social skills. He's basically got 10/10 self esteem, has zero fear or anxiety socially (why would he? He's never experienced pain in these things....YET!), he's funny, can mix with different ages and groups, spends lots of time being social, and he's aware that he's a handsome devil (been asked to model, and all the little girls in his class fancy him lol) When I think back, I was also very good…
/r/seduction16/01/18 10:30 PM
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thanks. I already lift. I dress well based on what is popular where I live and using fashion sites etc. Not sure about my posture tbh. My eye contact is definitely good. My voice isn't naturally deep, unfortunately (I don't like my voice much) Do you not believe in 'outer game' at all? The idea that I can do and say certain things in an interaction to help 'build attraction'?
/r/TheRedPill16/01/18 01:54 PM
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Another way of putting it, one guy opens a girl, they talk for 20 minutes and when he initiates kino she is super receptive. The same guy in an alternate universe opens the same girl, they talk for 20 minutes (but the conversation is different), and when HE initiates kino, she politely rejects him. So That conversation before the kino is what I think of as 'game' in a sense. So I feel as though running game 'isn't' really about kino, but that kino is more of a test to see how well you have 'game…
/r/seduction15/01/18 11:21 PM
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what if you never get the sense that she wants to be touched/isn't in to you? Do you just assume attraction and go for it anyway? Or are there things you can do to make her attracted to you so that she either gives you clear IOI's or maybe she even starts the kino herself
/r/seduction15/01/18 05:08 PM
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I wonder about these situations too. Everyone always says 'dude, just make your move' But Like, is it just a matter of 'going for it' and trying to get physical sort of out of nowhere (''here's how you play C major'' and then stoke her hair or whatever and then go for the kiss?!), or are there things you need to do/say to 'seduce' her and help make it happen I'm better in bars and stuff as getting physical on the dancefloor or whatever is normal, but not sure how i'd 'game/seduce/escalate' on a …
/r/seduction15/01/18 10:27 AM
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not necessarily testosterone. I assumed that was why I can't gorw facial hair, but I had my levels tested and they're actually on the high end! Just genetics more than likely
/r/seduction14/01/18 05:27 PM
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If you're handsome then I can certainly see the advantage.
/r/seduction14/01/18 11:51 AM
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Where you get girls to engage, and can make your intentions known, but don’t know how to really get them attracted and invested in the interaction? Traditionally the idea is tha you're not supposed to make your intentions known until the girl is clearly attracted. I'm not sure how 'valid' that idea is anymore, because lots of people get results by being SUPER direct, but then maybe them people are hitting on 'yes' girls and are good looking dudes and so obviously their method was gonna work. Goo…
/r/seduction12/01/18 12:49 PM
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OP is handsome! Congratz! (it's not the 'line' that's doing it ;)) You must be on a 100+ lay count already, i'm guessing!
/r/seduction12/01/18 01:54 AM
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Not embarrassing in terms of I done something super stupid, but I do find most of my attempts 'embarrassing' after the event, simply due to the girls reaction: Typically I open and then no matter what I said, I'll usually get a girl looking at me like i'm an alien. Then i'll ask something about her or make a statement, and I can see she's uncomfortable at being spoken too by a stranger and she's giving one word answers at best, and then as it gets just TOO awkward, i'm like ''OK then, have a goo…
/r/seduction10/01/18 10:23 PM
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I switch up all kinds of approach styles etc, but if the girl doesn't think you're hot, then she's not gonna be interested. Same as you if an ugly girl tried to 'game' you. 'Game' nowadays in these 'post mystery method/natural game' days is really just about getting cool hobbies and a job you like and being 'happy' and then playing the numbers game and being 'direct' and hoping a girl is interested. No real way of actually 'improving' to be honest
/r/seduction10/01/18 09:22 PM
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How can he 'improve' at asking a girls name?! (which is a perfetly acceptable opener according to seddit) She just wasn't into him. If he was her type, he'd never have gotten the stop sign. There was no way that that interaction would ever have gone a different way
/r/seduction10/01/18 09:18 PM
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lulz, that sounds a lot like every one of my interactions, and i've made like 1000+ approaches haha Approaching a girl on the dancefloor when you ain't handsome is a guaranteed 'stop sign to the face'!
/r/seduction10/01/18 09:07 PM
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Nice FR she’s not interested in initially, etc. and you turn the situation around in your favor I think that's just a myth though, lol - Never seen it happen in all my years! The girl needs to think you are hot for her to give you a chance, basically. If she is offish from the open, I think it means that you're not her type, and then nothing you say or do will lead to you getting her
/r/seduction09/01/18 10:25 AM
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I thought I was the only one who thought models was a bit overrated. It's like the bible of seddit so it's not a popular opinion at all, but it's one of the books that after you read, you go out and appraoch, and you realise you are exactly where you were before, and thus your interraction is identical (unable to spark attraction and thus a failure!) I'm trying to find a 'middle ground' book with practical advice about what to do and say, without having to be a complete 'routines monkey'! lol
/r/seduction09/01/18 10:15 AM
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we need to put our heads together, lol. Seddit is great and all, but it's basically all about 'inner game' which I believe is only a small part of the puzzle. Guys can have a million bucks in the bank and a job they love and lots of cool hobbies, and still SUCK with women (especially cold approach) I think there's a way to kind of force a more fun interaction whilst also remaining somewhat natural and not a complete routines monkey that can often have you saying odd things! You need to be 'norma…
/r/seduction08/01/18 05:58 PM
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''I told him I would give him the power to sleep with any girl he wanted'' hmmmmm......
/r/seduction08/01/18 02:27 PM
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Are you me?? I'm in a similar boat, man! Once in a blue moon, the environment or something will give me a perfect opener and transition, and before you know it, we are having a fun, flirty convo. But usually, i'll open, she'll be a little cold, I don't know what to say, so I just ask name, age, job, etc, and it just feels a little to overfamiliar/invasive/boring. She doesn't ask me anything, and the interaction always last about 30 seconds or so before she bails And then there's routines - I thi…
/r/seduction08/01/18 02:11 PM
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thanks. That's what I tend to do (ask them what brings them out, ask their name, what they do etc), although I often here people saying that this is boring and that you need to spike her emotions and ask more interesting questions - but I feel as though going up to a random girl and asking her some 'out there' questions after you say 'hi' would make you look super autistic, personally?
/r/seduction06/01/18 05:25 PM
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Isn't he one of the mods?
/r/seduction06/01/18 11:56 AM
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Good FR, and I like the layout and the detail, personally. Much better than the FR's where they are so vague it's basically pointless. ''Went out, approached girl, we hooked up''. Fuck all can be learnt from that! We need to know what was said, the vibe, the situation etc. Good job
/r/seduction05/01/18 11:34 AM
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Are you white? Cambodia? Thailand?
/r/seduction03/01/18 03:39 PM
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Where do you live? I never tend to get asked things back either (which makes all my interactions very short) but i'm in teh UK. We don't talk to strangers, so makes sense!
/r/seduction01/01/18 11:42 PM
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examples? thanks
/r/seduction31/12/17 04:19 PM
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very, lol
/r/seduction31/12/17 12:50 PM
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RSD - But the idea is that what you say doesn't matter, anyway. Sometimes I just open direct as well. How do you open?
/r/seduction31/12/17 12:50 PM
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yeah, there's possibly some truth in that. But at the time, my friends had all bailed, so how much 'fun' can you really have by yourself in the dancefloor? And Surely we're supposed to be looking to pickup girls though? This is a pickup forum after all. Approaching girls is advoated here
/r/seduction30/12/17 10:40 AM
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yes, I've read models.
/r/seduction29/12/17 12:49 PM
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Probably a little bit of both, really. I get no matches on tinder so that's the first big clue! :) I'm basically a 4/10 facially, plus i'm on the short side. I'd say most guys I see are more like a 6. And then there's a few 8's/9's who steal all of the girls every night by simply standing there, lol
/r/seduction29/12/17 12:38 PM
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They're usually in groups, yes. Most of the pulls are a bit of a blur, really as they tend to happen very late. It's very rare you meet a girl early in the night and shes the one you pull (that's happened once) But when it's late, and girls are in bigger groups (say 4+) it can actually be easier as they can get a bit spread out and lose each other a little, and since it's not like a 2-set, it means her friend won't be left on her own so she's more likely to not resist going off with you so much.…
/r/seduction29/12/17 09:20 AM
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To be honest, i'm jealous that you got laid from tinder! (or whatever online app it was). I get about 2 matches per month despite using up all my swipes each day, and have never gotten a girl to meet me, lol. But I digress. I am only a year or so older than you, and I actually also only lost my virginity fairly recently. I also was convinced i'd die a virgin. It was one of those things that when you tell someone, they laugh and think you're being dramatic, but it felt like a VERY real possibilty…
/r/seduction28/12/17 09:35 PM
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Yeah, I know it's hard in just text format. I feel as though i'm doing what i've read i'm supposed to do. I'll always try to catch their eye a little first. Like, I won't just grab a girl who doesn't know i'm there and try to dance with her. If our eyes meet, i'll kind of hold eye contact and smile as i'm dancing, and then i'll maybe extend my hand as if too invite her to dance (RSD do this, although I have a 95% rejection rate) or i'll just dance towards her and gage her reaction. Usually she d…
/r/seduction28/12/17 08:47 AM
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Any glarring mistakes with these approaches, or just all 'No girls' again and nothing I did wrong?
/r/seduction27/12/17 10:11 PM
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trying to think of a good way to put this, but the concept of 'game' has become so nebulous over the years. So from a technical point of view, what things does a guy who 'knows game' do that a guy who doesn't know game doesn't do, when trying to pickup girls? By 'game', are you talking about things like 'push/pull'? What else? There doesn't seem to be much on this sub about actual 'game', vs self improvement/get a good job/etc type stuff thanks
/r/seduction27/12/17 01:57 PM
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Here's how it looked, by the way. It's a bit embarrassing, but whatevs...: There's a 'reserved' table that nobody has used all night and 2 pretty girls enter and stand near it. They're about 23? me: Hey :) - Is that your table? Girls: No. We were wondering who's reserved it me: Katie Price (UK celeb) lives here doesn't she? I bet it's hers. Girls: haha me: Do you guys live here? girls: Yes. What about you? me: I live in (different town) girl1: Oh. I work there me: Really? What do you do? girl1: …
/r/seduction24/12/17 09:18 PM
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