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| 1 | Too many 'coaches' on seddit at the mobit worrying that the mods deleted that post! Maybe they are all working together | /r/seduction | 22/01/20 11:06 AM |
| 5 | Focus On Progress, Not PerfectionGood post. Most 'coaches' on reddit talk pure bullshit in my experience What you touch on is also why trying to 'learn from mistakes' is also a bit of a minefield! You can do everything 'wrong', but if she thinks you're handsome as hell and she is recently broken up and is travelling in your country for 3 days, you will very VERY likely get her naked and will put it all down to your 'game' (99% of infields where he gets laid, if you look closely enough, are because he opened a girl who was into … | /r/seduction | 20/01/20 04:17 PM |
| 1 | Field Report - I Need an uglier wing!! @)don't game with handsome dudes. Even if your game is amazing, if he's hella handsome compared to you, it won't end well lol https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/8o8os0/frnight_out_with_my_handsome_mate/ | /r/seduction | 09/01/20 04:42 PM |
| 1 | Is this guy different/worse than 5 years ago to not meet this girl again? U.K.Same person? | /r/seduction | 13/10/19 10:47 AM |
| 1 | I have come here to asktrp for help with anxiety.Medication? I have similar issues. Nothing 'natural' has helped yet. (meditation, working out, better diet, etc etc) I think the best answer is exposure therapy, but if the anxiety is too high, you literally can't bring yourself to do the 'exposure' (whether it's speaking to people on the phone like the other dude or whatever) So I wonder if meds (SSRI's are popular here) to get teh ball rolling combined with baby step exposire therapy is the best route | /r/askTRP | 09/10/19 07:52 AM |
| 1 | What happened to Tom Torero?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8gdvMZCuFI&feature=youtu.be | /r/askTRP | 09/10/19 07:45 AM |
| 3 | What happened to Tom Torero?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8gdvMZCuFI&feature=youtu.be | /r/askTRP | 08/10/19 08:45 PM |
| 3 | What happened to Tom Torero?More than likely he closed his stuff down in anticipation of th shit storm taht is teh BBC investigation/expose on 'the seduction community' that aired in the UK last night Street Attraction have since had their channel deleted by youtube (after the BBC contacted them) One PUA has been in prison for 9 months on charges of harassment or something for approaching (legal aged) teenagers in the street in glasgow (as well as having his channel deleted by youtube) | /r/askTRP | 08/10/19 08:43 PM |
| 1 | What happened to Tom Torero?that was about 5 years ago! haha. He's been very active since then. More than likely he closed his stuff down in anticipation of th shit storm taht is teh BBC investigation/expose on 'the seduction community' that aired in the UK last night Street Attraction have since had their channel deleted by youtube (after the BBC contacted them) | /r/askTRP | 08/10/19 08:42 PM |
| 1 | My last post hereApproach foreign girls like PUA's do. Better odds. Almost all pulls from PUAs are on tourists (much easier to bang a bored tourist!) 'game' isn't really a 'skill' as such. YOu can't make someone attracted to you. You're either her type or you're not. Same as you when selecting a girl to bang It's mainly about target selection (either easier targets or approaching off of strong IOI's like the good looking PUA's do) and then escalating Smoothly (some 'game' or calibration/social skill is required … | /r/seduction | 08/10/19 08:32 PM |
| 2 | Looks do matter, and don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.If a girl looks at a picture of a tall male model with a square jaw and a 6pack and anotehr picture of a 5ft little bald fat man, she'll feel the same attraction, bro! Girls don't care about looks. It's like they're blind. /s | /r/seduction | 08/10/19 02:02 PM |
| 1 | The BBC are showing a hate peice on pickup culture tonight in the UK. On their top channel, at prime time. This is unheard of.Not really. It's just focusing on the culture of men approaching young girls in the street and hitting on them. (very little was mentioned about 'styles' and canned material and stuff) The angle was mainly about one of 'harassment' and also a fair chunk of the program was centered around the whole idea of LMR and the concepts taught in order to get around it | /r/seduction | 07/10/19 08:56 PM |
| 2 | The BBC are showing a hate peice on pickup culture tonight in the UK. On their top channel, at prime time. This is unheard of.twitter is going mad lol So much hate for older guys approaching 16 and 17 year olds (age of consent is 16 and we don't have age gap laws here, so age is a non-issue!). Progam centered on that issue quite a lot - never even mentioning the fact that it's legal lol. Just kept saying things like ''Eddie admitted to having sex with a 17 year old girl'' as if that in itself is incriminating lol Also, the twitter comments. I've never understood the whole 'It's predatory and using your age to manipulat… | /r/seduction | 07/10/19 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Ejecting too early, maybe [FR]Yes you're bailing too early. You should have re-approached the first girl Oh nah, i'm almost certain that I wasn't her type at all. The way she looked at me and span around lol. Think it would have been a waste of time And you should have definitely talked more to the girl in the cocktail bar. Yeah, that's the only interaction of the night where I feel I messed up. The other rejections were out of my hands cheers | /r/seduction | 07/10/19 06:29 PM |
| 2 | I was initially attracted to this community because it taught “I’m not good enough” was just a limiting belief that kept you from a good dating life. But after approaching hundreds of girls & getting rejected countless times, I feel like maybe that belief was right all along. Anyone else feel this?what are your favourite techniques | /r/seduction | 07/10/19 06:27 PM |
| 3 | Ejecting too early, maybe [FR]It's call a field report which is basically where you post about your approaches/interactions. Quite a popular thing in the community. | /r/seduction | 07/10/19 04:15 PM |
| 2 | I was initially attracted to this community because it taught “I’m not good enough” was just a limiting belief that kept you from a good dating life. But after approaching hundreds of girls & getting rejected countless times, I feel like maybe that belief was right all along. Anyone else feel this?But do learn from each encounter, refine your technique, adapt the theory to your particular style can you elaborate here? i often read 'what you say doesn't matter' so i'm naturally unsure of what exactly i'm supposed to implement in terms of game techniques etc What things do you always implement. What 'theory' have you found to be the most useful in 'practical' terms? And what were your aha moments in terms of 'learning' from your rejections personally? I kind of get where the other guy is co… | /r/seduction | 07/10/19 04:14 PM |
| 1 | This rejection really felt like a punch to the gutI think you done the right thing, personally. Pretending that you just want to be friends would likely just lead to frustration. Seddit tends to advise to make it quite clear that this isn't just 'friends hanging out' when you get numbers etc, so I think you done the right thing. She just wasn't into you. Nothing you can do about that. Take the loss and move on! Good luck! | /r/seduction | 06/10/19 11:40 AM |
| 1 | Anyone successfully using mysterymethod in the UK?Well, when you open a girl in a bar, even very indirectly, they know why you are doing it. You CEMENT this when you start going into DHV stories and negs and routines etc etc (as the method calls for) And at that point, if you aren't her type, she doesn't want to lead you on or whatever and will reject you That's what happened to the OP If he'd have done that same stuff in his OP on a girl who was into him, it would have worked. I'm sure of that. But then, soo would going direct And yeah, in cer… | /r/seduction | 22/08/19 04:37 PM |
| 1 | Anyone successfully using mysterymethod in the UK?he was 'high value' and 'interesting', though (or at least gave taht impression through his use of the mysterymethod. That's the point of DHV's, routines etc. Problem is they only 'work' if you are her type, as he maybe realised from the rejections lol) MOst daygame Londoners are hitting on tourists btw - the instant rejections are mostly locals | /r/seduction | 22/08/19 02:48 PM |
| 2 | Are there real playas here?I have a handsome wing who has tonnes of stories like that lol. If a girl/girls are into you, it's not hat hard to navigate, especially in a club when the booze is flowing! But it's not some secret method doing the heavy lifting lol. Go out and neg a girl and tell a DVh story and see if it makes her wanna bang you ;) Physical attraction is a pre requisite. After that, certain gamey concepts can help seal the deal faster | /r/seduction | 22/08/19 02:43 PM |
| 1 | Anyone successfully using mysterymethod in the UK?UK girls tend to get combative with negs. Even playful ones. It's already weird to strike up a convo with a stranger in the UK. Throw in a neg too and you'll be told ''Byeeee'' (unless you're handsome as shit) But anyway, the reason he got rejected in them sets is likely just because he wasn't their type. It happens lol | /r/seduction | 22/08/19 02:12 PM |
| 4 | Anyone successfully using mysterymethod in the UK?Can't beleive this cheesy ass mysterymethod stuff seems to be making a comeback on seddit recently lol None of that stuff will work at all if she's not into you. And it won't MAKE her into you lol | /r/seduction | 21/08/19 05:41 PM |
| 1 | FRIf I had to guess, I'd say you telegraphed too much interest and didn't give her a chance to win you over. Or the opposite and he didn't show ENOUGH intent. Girls like confident, sexual men who are clear in their intent and aren't afraid to show it Even more likely, though, is that he wasn't her type and it's kind of irrelevant lol | /r/seduction | 21/08/19 05:02 PM |
| 1 | FR - Girls DO care about looksI'm going out gaming tonight with my most handsome friend, so maybe i'll let you know waht happens lol | /r/seduction | 20/07/19 04:08 PM |
| 1 | What's your initial conversation starter with girls at night?being old is different from being ugly Not in that context. It doesn't have to be an 'old man' ugly latex mask, but in both cases, you won't be her type. You could even use an average looking very old man mask or even a young 'ugly' mask. IN both cases, she won't be into you, no matter what you say (game). I mentioned the 'old man' mask to give an example of something else (other than looks) that might make a girl instantly rule you out despite your 'game' obviously im not going to bang a 90 yr … | /r/seduction | 26/04/19 05:01 PM |
| 1 | Starting to feel like 'game' = be brave and go for it!!https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/bg2ry8/whats_your_initial_conversation_starter_with/elkj3uo/ lulz | /r/seduction | 23/04/19 02:08 PM |
| 1 | What's your initial conversation starter with girls at night?Wear a latex mask of an ugly very old man, try to pull some hot teen cheerleaders, and get back to me on whether girls have a type or not. haha | /r/seduction | 23/04/19 02:03 PM |
| 0 | What's your initial conversation starter with girls at night?ha. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Massively so :) | /r/seduction | 23/04/19 01:41 PM |
| 0 | What's your initial conversation starter with girls at night?If you're not her type, nothing you say is gonna make her wanna bang you. That's the PUA fallacy | /r/seduction | 23/04/19 01:21 PM |
| 1 | Do it and see what happensanswered every one of my questions with one or two words. So I figured she's not interested/it's not her day. And it's okay, that's the end of our conversation and if we talk again, nice, if not oh well. Good that you realised this early on. I spent years trying to work out how to 'turn' these girls from not wanting to talk to you at all to being attracted to you. These girls are 'no girls' and they aren't interested in you and never will be, and it's good that you move on fast and not let it bo… | /r/seduction | 23/04/19 12:40 PM |
| 3 | What I've learnedI know what you mean about forgetting evereything (all the lines and theories and stuff) in the moment! Although I have a famously bad memory so thought it was just me, tbh. So, since it was a date, I kind of think she was already into you (liked the way you look) and so, in that situation, I definitely agree that what you say doesn't matter. I think a date is basically easy mode since the girl already likes the way you look (that's why she agreed on a date usually. Like on tinder etc) On a cold… | /r/seduction | 22/04/19 09:32 PM |
| 3 | What's your initial conversation starter with girls at night?Yeah, I go direct like that sometimes. Although again, when it doesn't work, people always tell me I need to hide my interest until she is showing me interest first. I need to neg her make her chase etc etc. | /r/seduction | 22/04/19 07:47 PM |
| 8 | What's your initial conversation starter with girls at night?How do you open? cheers | /r/seduction | 22/04/19 04:57 PM |
| 28 | What's your initial conversation starter with girls at night?that's actually the kind of opener I use. If I get rejected and mention that opener in a Field Report, people always tell me that it's a bad opener and it's not offering value (thus I got rejected) and I should read the mystery method or whatever lol. But to be honest, I think it's more a matter of hindsight bias? Like, if she's interested in me, that opener works fine (it has worked to get a convo going lots of times) And if she rejects me off of that open, i'm probably just a bit ugly in her e… | /r/seduction | 22/04/19 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Starting to feel like 'game' = be brave and go for it!!lol. Dude, nobody (even prime Leo DiCaprio) can bang any girl they want! This is funny shit | /r/seduction | 19/04/19 10:38 AM |
| 1 | Is 25 years too old ?Oh. Well, that's just the way it is, especially in lots of Europe where the age of consent is 16 without any 'age gap' laws. Lots of 16 year old girls with guys 23+. It's probably worse than ever now. VERY young girls only care about makeup and 'partying' and stuff and their role models are just the Kardashians and stuff so it's all very sexualised from a very young age. | /r/seduction | 20/02/19 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Is 25 years too old ?lol, what is? | /r/seduction | 20/02/19 02:27 PM |
| 1 | I seem to be better at game in places of either very little or low accountability, any tips on fixing this?Yeah, i'm kind of similar. My example would be a date vs cold approach (although I understand your issue with social circle too as I had a situation recently with a girl in a new social circle I kind of joined where I just felt clueless. Wasn't getting IOI's and had no idea how to 'escalate' on a girl who probably wasn't into me without making it awkward!) And yeah, compared to cold approaching some random girl in a bar, a 'date' to me feels like a job interview and I suck as job interviews! | /r/seduction | 20/02/19 10:59 AM |
| 4 | Is 25 years too old ?25 is still very young. Where I live, 16 is legal, and many of them hook up with guys who are like 23, which is basically your age. You are not 'out of bounds' to any age group, basically. You could bang a hot milf or her teenage daughter at 25 without being ruled out by either girl based on your age. You're laughing | /r/seduction | 20/02/19 09:24 AM |
| 3 | Is it possible for a girl to be this forward?Some girls are just like that, especially with good looking guys. And it's not just tinder. my best friend is exceptionally handsome, and you wouldn't believe some of the things i've seen happen to him out on the streets and not even on tinder lol And yeah, I guess it could vary based on culture. Could well be that Scandinavian girls are more forward. Can't say i'm sure tbh but I know there are quite big cultural differences that effect all things pickup | /r/seduction | 20/02/19 09:20 AM |
| 9 | Is 25 years too old ?Are you joking? | /r/seduction | 20/02/19 08:39 AM |
| 1 | Instagram screening?Do you know what instagram is? You post initesting pics and stuff and it's common for strangers to 'add' each other and DM each other etc. But it typically only works for really good looking guys or super rich guys. But I literally got DM'd by a girl this evening for the first ever time, even though she 'shouldn't have any interest in me' lol | /r/seduction | 20/02/19 12:04 AM |
| 11 | Is it essential that she thinks you are handsome for a cold approach to work?Every time I've got laid, I know that she thought I was handsome. If I open a girl who thinks i'm ugly, it's ALWAYS an insta rejection or maybe a short convo where i'm doing all of the work until eventually I run out of things to say or she just walks away or I give up lol. Occasionally I might be able to keep the convo going for a while and think I have possible interest, but i'm then always shot down as soon as I show some intent So many youtube PUA's are very handsome now. It's a good way to … | /r/seduction | 15/08/18 11:57 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Full FR of Saturday nightAlso u have too many cannd boring lines like do u travel, whats ur name, what u up to kind of things they are fine but when you depend on them they tend to come off emotionless and interview like What's a good alternative? I see that in most RSD infields they usually just ask these sorts of questions after the open, although I do admit they can be a bit boring and typical. But at the same time, I think going into some DHV story ala mysterymethod seems way too tryhard and overfamiliar for UK girl… | /r/seduction | 09/08/18 08:06 AM |
| 3 | How to get words out of the quiet girl?example of a convo? This is a cold approach? You mean she's giving one word answers or just not talking? | /r/seduction | 03/08/18 07:49 AM |
| 17 | Does it matter if woman find you physically attractive?too long to answer properly. Good looks are VERY important. The most important thing for getting laid from cold approach by far. Good looks on their own and zero game CAN be enough, but you really need to be male model material. Out of like 300 facebook friends, I have 2 who can get laid with gorgeous girls without really talking and just standing there showing zero personality. Hot girls open them and escalate on them and they literally CAN'T fuck up. The girls attraction level is just too high… | /r/seduction | 02/08/18 03:07 PM |
| 1 | What if how Interested She is has More to do with Her than You?of course - but that would fall under one of my categories of: maybe she just tihnks you are as handsome as holy hell and so whatever you say will work etc etc | /r/seduction | 02/08/18 11:24 AM |
| 4 | How do I take this interaction with these girls?This happened like 2 years ago now lol | /r/seduction | 02/08/18 11:08 AM |
| 1 | What if how Interested She is has More to do with Her than You?Another couple of girls were on rollerskates, so I said something like "nice wheels, could you give me a piggyback ride?" They replied with "I dunno, do you trust us?" I said I would only trust them if they pinkyswore to keep me safe. Overall, it was a light-hearted exchange, and I always find if more fun to open with a joke. However, when it came to asking the girl I found more attractive if she wanted to go for a coffee some time, she simply responded with "that's okay." Admittedly, I ran out … | /r/seduction | 02/08/18 11:04 AM |
| 1 | Can the ugliest guy with perfect game get girls?lol, I've seen both of them plus possibly 20 other premium products. DHV, push pull, 'you can I wouldn't get along, we'd always fight and i'd always win, breaking rapport tonality, humour, cold reads 'you look like a bad girl' bla bla, qualification 'what do you have going for you besides your looks?' etc etc, it's all meaningless if you don't meet her physical preference tbh. Can make her think you are fun and cool, but platonic unless she also likes your looks tbh | /r/seduction | 02/08/18 07:34 AM |
| 2 | [FR] Full FR of Saturday nightno offence taken. Yes, I've read models. I tend to 'flip' between different kinds of game. Usually after running 'models' style game (direct, no scripts, be yourself and be honest and don't worry about saying the 'right' things etc) and failing/getting rejected lots, everyone will tell me I need to use mysterymethod scripted game, and then when that fails, a different group of posters tell me to read models and just 'be myself' and talk about whatever etc etc lol. Kind of go around in circles Ty… | /r/seduction | 01/08/18 10:28 PM |
| 1 | Can the ugliest guy with perfect game get girls?What game techniques can compete with good looks? Do you mean 'learning' things like 'cold reads' and DHV stories etc? In my experience that stuff only 'works' if she thinks you'r handsome tbh. I don't think any of that 'attraction material' can make a girl wanna bang you if she thinks you're ugly lol | /r/seduction | 01/08/18 08:31 PM |
| 2 | Possible As A Woman To Give Feedback When A Guy Approaches You?I get rejected non stop because i'm kinda ugly lol For me personally, the kindest rejection would be a lie. Something like ''You're cute, but I've got a serious boyfriend. Sorry''. Although saying that, even though I know that I personally would be like ''Ok. Fair enough, have a good night'', some guys would take that as an opportunity to try to convince her and badger her for ages since they now think that they are in with a shot from her saying the 'cute' thing lol. Just don't be a bitch. It h… | /r/seduction | 01/08/18 06:48 PM |
| 5 | Biggest sticking points with picking up girls on the dancefloor?how to actually approach. Extend your hand for them to take? Just start dancing in their vicinity and hope that they give you huge IOI's so that you can grab them? Do you just make eye contact and smile at them and stuff and at some point grab them? Just ignore girls and have your own fun and hope they open you??! Often times I try a variation of this and am rejected. I think it's likely that she will only dance with you if she thinks you're handsome in reality. And when you DO find a girl who w… | /r/seduction | 01/08/18 06:17 PM |
| 3 | [FR] Full FR of Saturday nightHe's just super handsome. Wide strong jaw. Bright green eyes. perfect hairline. cheekbones and small nose etc. But i'm trying to compete with this mofo with game lol. He's cool though. He used to pull girls and then throw them on me once they were super horny and got me laid a few times lol | /r/seduction | 01/08/18 05:48 PM |
| 2 | U.K.) was this tinder match a catfish?You've been trolling here with the same pics and threads every week for about 2 years lol | /r/seduction | 31/07/18 02:36 PM |
| 0 | U.K.) was this tinder match a catfish?I lol'd. | /r/seduction | 31/07/18 02:35 PM |
| 1 | Is it best to NOT go out with a very handsome wing?that sucks, but I guess that's just the way it is. I'd love to come to the US as I imagine it'd be about 50 times easier! Plus the accent bonus!! Would be weird to deliver a mystery opener and have it work how it does in his infields instead of a look of contempt and confusion! haha Yeah man, it's so annoying. I wish I had have filmed the night because my mate could have banged any of the 500+ hot 18 year olds in there without saying a damn word lol! And I was getting insta rejected and trying l… | /r/seduction | 30/07/18 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Is it best to NOT go out with a very handsome wing?I've done that open lots of times to be honest ''Hey, 2 seconds. Me and my friend were talking bla bla''. 50% of the time they might just look at me weird and be like ''why are you asking me this? I don't know you'' kind of thing. I'll explain. Other times they might listen but they don't really want to talk about it and so keep their answer super short with body language that is clearly saying 'can you make this end soon, please??'' lol. After teh opener I don't have any amazing jokes /routine … | /r/seduction | 30/07/18 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Is it best to NOT go out with a very handsome wing?Yeah, I definitely do teh best with what I have (dress nice, work out etc), but I DO know i'm not handsome unfortunately. (huge nose, no chin, receding hair, bad skin from cystic acne as a kid, short etc etc etc. I'm a 3 lol) So in terms of night game, give me an idea of what you think 'good game' is. How would you open and then transition etc? What would teh first 3 minutes look like? I'll literally follow your script word for word when i'm next out and tell you how I got on! lol | /r/seduction | 30/07/18 08:51 PM |
| 1 | Is it best to NOT go out with a very handsome wing?yes, that's what I was saying. But you confused me when you said 'comfort' as a way to help hook but as you say, comfort is for later. But I can't hook or get her engaged from the open properly unless she thinks i'm good looking | /r/seduction | 30/07/18 08:42 PM |
| 1 | Is it best to NOT go out with a very handsome wing?I find that looks are 100% the most important thing but I obviously keep trying because you might get lucky and find a hot girl who has very weird tastes in men which i've had happen to me before! But most hot girls won't give you a chance if she doesn't think you're hot at all. The same lines that work great when you are her type BOMB badly lol I dress nice and go to the gym 4 times per week. Short back and sides and longer on top although i'm going a bit thin. Very good hygeine obviously. Open… | /r/seduction | 30/07/18 08:33 PM |
| 2 | Is it best to NOT go out with a very handsome wing?so with night game, how might this look? Just open, 'hey, how are you?'' and then ask name, age, talk job and what she does for fun etc? I try to do things to 'spike' the interaction initially such as cold reads etc as it's attraction material which is supposed to come before 'comfort' | /r/seduction | 30/07/18 07:34 PM |
| 6 | Did Improving Your Life (e.g. Working Out, Finding Hobbies) Get Women To Start Approaching You?they approach good looking guys to be honest, but I agree in general | /r/seduction | 30/07/18 06:16 PM |
| 0 | Is it best to NOT go out with a very handsome wing?you have to compensate through better game any other techniques you'd recommend game wise other than negs, push pull, breaking rapport tonaility, cold reads, self amusement etc? | /r/seduction | 30/07/18 02:12 PM |
| 1 | Is it best to NOT go out with a very handsome wing?Sounds more like you need to work on your game more. Everyone always says that, but I've bought like every PUA product known to man and have made lots of approaches, so i'm guessing my 'game' is pretty good. Like, I do what i'm told to do (cold reads, observations, breaking rapport, self amuse, etc etc) BUt this stuff only seems to 'work' when you are her 'type' lookswise | /r/seduction | 30/07/18 02:10 PM |
| 4 | Saturday club nightGoing out with a good looking wing is soul destroying. haha | /r/seduction | 29/07/18 04:08 PM |
| 5 | MysteryMethod only for US people?THIS is the sort of stuff I wish I saw discussed more and could actually be helpful. Maybe Pickup isn't quite as universal as everyone seems to think/. I've noticed that I can game polish girls brilliantly! They love the high energy stupid/self amusing silly stuff in my experience. | /r/seduction | 19/07/18 12:23 PM |
| 1 | MysteryMethod only for US people?Be glad that you're in Europe, lot of guys here are in India and the Middle East - and their social situation is way fucked. Yeah, that's true. Good to look on the bright side, I guess!! It seems that 'Russell Brand 'style of game works best here. Very direct but also playful, basically. (I actually saw Julien do this in a few infields) At least that's how the guys who I see get laid seem to do it. Seems lke the opposite of mysterymethod though which puzzled me as I hoped to be better than THEM … | /r/seduction | 19/07/18 12:04 PM |
| 2 | MysteryMethod only for US people?Another thing to point out is that European women tend to be much more guarded when you approach them vs American women, just due to cultural differences. European people tend to be much more reserved while in America they have a culture of fake friendliness so they're much easier to open. Yeah, this could be a big part of it. I think instant rejections and stuff seem to be SUPER common in the UK at night (unless you are stupid handsome) compared to the US where people are taught be friendly to … | /r/seduction | 19/07/18 11:46 AM |
| 3 | MysteryMethod only for US people?It's not what you say but how you say it. One possibile reason why it doesn't work might be that it just isn't something you would like to say to a girl. This is my instincts, too. I tried it because I keep seeing people recommend it here (even them line ''You can dress her up but you can't take her out!'' etc) but I do feel a bit cheesy saying that. Like, i'm aware that that kind of humour on some hot teen girl in Europe isn't going to laugh at that line or make the targets friend 'side with yo… | /r/seduction | 19/07/18 09:45 AM |
| 6 | MysteryMethod only for US people?the mistery method is extremely outdated. The canned dialogue i mean (all of that "who lies more" and "palm reading" stuff How can something like that become 'outdated' out of interest? I'm not asking because I disagree with you. I'm just curious. Like, why would palm reading not make someone cringe 15 years ago but now it does and it outdated? And the opinion opener? Could, for example, asking someone their name as an opener become 'outdated' one day? I find it all interesting lol And the game/… | /r/seduction | 19/07/18 09:41 AM |
| 1 | Why is it that whenever I watch infields, the guys at some point just start standing around?Like 5' 7''? | /r/seduction | 19/06/18 05:36 PM |
| 1 | Why is it that whenever I watch infields, the guys at some point just start standing around?Trust me, he's very handsome. Girls like him. A girl I used to work with said 'young tom Cruise' when I showed her older pics and said ''handsome fuckboy hipster'' when I showed her his bearded pics lol. And yeah, just looks how most girls react to him in the natural infields. There's so many examples of girls opening him, calling him handsome etc. His only weakness is his height. | /r/seduction | 19/06/18 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Why is it that whenever I watch infields, the guys at some point just start standing around?I think it's because in most of Max's infields, the girls are chasing him since he's very handsome, so it's his way of kind of just trying to look cool, showing non-neediness and making her be the one to start a new thread of conversation. But it only works if she's super into you, otherwise she'll just be like ''He's boring. This is awkward, I'm going. Byeeee''. I like Max, but when I bought the natural I was disappointed at most of his infields as there was really not much to learn. Girls woul… | /r/seduction | 19/06/18 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Give me a refresher on important outergame stuffIn regards to giving IOD's how is this best done? Different too a neg? With the girl last night, after she opened me and then I went into a tease, cold read, little story etc, I could tell that she wasn't feeling me at all and I guess that's when an IOD would have been good? I began to act aloof and stopped being the one to initiate conversation as my was of giving her an IOD, but that's basically when she just walked off without saying anything and hit on my friend pretty hard lol. Maybe I need… | /r/seduction | 18/06/18 10:59 PM |
| 1 | Give me a refresher on important outergame stuffWhat are you doing to get attraction? Well from what I've read, this happens from things like teasing, good subcommunications/body language, being challenging, humour, passing shit tests etc. I read that anything that removes a person's validation in a fun and playful way creates attraction toward you. Maybe i'll open and tease her about something, and then tell a little story and use humour, have strong eye contact. Make a cold read etc I can't shake the feeling that every girl I've ever banged… | /r/seduction | 18/06/18 10:35 PM |
| 1 | Give me a refresher on important outergame stuffI mainly go indirect simply because it just feels more natural to me (so that's what I tend to concentrate on) Although the later it gets in the night, the more likely I am to go direct lol. But last night, the girl actually opened me, but in hindsight I think it was just so that i'd introduce her to my friend who she liked the look of. But I gave it my best try with her anyway because she was cute and tried a cold read, a little neg, a little story etc, but it just all seemed for nought as very… | /r/seduction | 18/06/18 10:01 PM |
| 6 | Game works wonders guysfake: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.earnthenecklace.com/fact-check-daniel-sharp-florida-veteran-convinces-female-officers/amp/ | /r/seduction | 16/06/18 03:04 PM |
| 2 | I f***ed upbut I did something a bit stupid after one too many beers and told her that I was really attracted to her and started saying how sexy I think she is Why is that a mistake? This sub is forever talking about how you need to make you intentions clear, show vulnerability, not get 'friendzoned' etc etc. But yeah, some of the other things weren't ideal lol | /r/seduction | 14/06/18 10:17 PM |
| 6 | Kesia Noble on UK vs US differencesThe American girl at 3:33 who is a bit of an anomaly in the US is the kind of reaction you get like 95% of the time in lots of Europe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzUa2cB61hU&t=268s&index=81&list=LLKMgbcu5bCspbXERXhCdeYQ | /r/seduction | 14/06/18 12:48 PM |
| 3 | Kesia Noble on UK vs US differencesAs a brit, she is spot on! One of the first times I've heard a coach reference this (with the exception of an article by the coaches over at theattractionforums once who went in depth about the differences between gaming UK girls vs US girls. ) | /r/seduction | 14/06/18 11:23 AM |
| 1 | 10 principles of gameI'm surprised that your lay count is only 5 (although I think the national average is about 5 per lifetime supposedly!), although I very much respect your honesty. You obviously could have been like, ''Yeah, I have 120 lays'' or whatever, and I doubt anyone would have doubted you. I'm old, but I only actually started 'pickup' about 16 months ago and have banged 11 girls from cold approach. Same night lays. I've never had a date or a girlfriend. Never met anyone from online/tinder etc. Also 1 or … | /r/seduction | 14/06/18 07:46 AM |
| 1 | 10 principles of gameI actually have read models. In fact, I've read about every PUA book in existence, and I own a good chunk of paid pickup 'products' In existence too lol. But i'm not just an armchair guy. I have approached probably about 2000 girls in the 2 years or so that I've been aware of 'game'. | /r/seduction | 13/06/18 10:41 PM |
| 3 | Picking Up A Cute French Girl - Daygame Infield | The Approachwhat do you feel he needed to do/say in order to make her more attracted and for the interaction to qualify as 'seduction'? Specifically. Cheers ps- I think he got the girl in the end according to the description on the video, and she does look very young and hot in fairness | /r/seduction | 13/06/18 08:20 PM |
| 1 | 10 principles of gameTodd Valentine, Mystery, MagicBullets, BradSocial etc. The idea is that direct is basically making her choose yes or no, then and there, which is good if you are handsome as hell, but if not, it's a guaranteed rejection. Like I say, i'm not on either camp, really. I haven't seen much of a pattern in terms of success, and I tend to alternate between direct and indirect personally! | /r/seduction | 13/06/18 07:34 PM |
| 2 | 10 principles of gamefrom what I've read, most of the experts actually agree that direct is for beginners and indirect is for pros! I don't know! I'm not an expert. That's just what I've heard. Interesting debate though! | /r/seduction | 13/06/18 04:26 PM |
| 1 | 10 principles of gamefrom what I've read, it's actually direct game that is for beginners. Interesting debate though, lol | /r/seduction | 13/06/18 04:24 PM |
| 1 | Any flirting tips? (Sry if this has alreadx been asked)lol | /r/seduction | 13/06/18 07:48 AM |
| 0 | So somehow my Dad just picked up 2 girls for me in a Walmart parking lot. And I'm pretty sure I messed up a threesome.Your dads cool, but I wonder if he inadvertently cockblocked you a bit by saying that you sleep all day and don't meet people lol. And To be honest, I seriously doubt you missed out on some threesome or whatever. Sounds like the girls were just being silly and teasing you a bit with the 'each other' thing to me, when you asked what they do for fun At that point they didn't even know what you looked like. | /r/seduction | 13/06/18 07:47 AM |
| 1 | How many days do you have from meeting someone to asking them out too avoid the friendzone?I certainly do go out and practice a fair bit, and I've had some joy, although in hindsight i'm more or less 100% certain that the successful nights were in spite of my 'game' and not because of it tbh. THe girl was just into me. And the ones who weren't, it just feels like nothing at all actually 'works' (at least using everything i'm aware of in 'game') And other than what I read about in PUA books etc, I don't know what else I should be practicing if that makes sense (I can't practice a certa… | /r/seduction | 12/06/18 01:53 PM |
| 1 | How many days do you have from meeting someone to asking them out too avoid the friendzone?Newbies can't do it because they have not learned how to be attractive. New guys don't understand what girls look for outside of looks, muscles, and money I'm not sure anything out there really properly teaches how to do this? (assuming it exists and is actually possible) For example, I don't think 'attraction material' from the Venusian Arts handbook actually makes girls want to sleep with you tbh. Pre-selection is a good one, but if you were able to attract other girls, you'd be able to attrac… | /r/seduction | 12/06/18 01:00 PM |
| 2 | How many days do you have from meeting someone to asking them out too avoid the friendzone?Being unabashed and clear in your desires is one of the biggest turn ons for women out there! You do this in every aspect of your interaction, physical, verbal, spiritual etc But isn't that like 100% wrong according to mystery method who says we need to NOT show intent (until she does), don't give out power away and make her chase etc? The idea is that it's just 'fools mate'/luck/numbers game when you are very direct? | /r/seduction | 12/06/18 10:23 AM |
| 1 | How Much do our Looks Matter?I think the problem is that 'game' is irellevant if she isn't into your looks. I'd much rather be very handsome than have 'game' (not that it's hard to memorize some opinion openers, negs, routines etc) If she thinks you are handsome, then 'game' can help seal the deal. If she thinks you are not handsome, then 'game' isn't gonna get you the girl IMO | /r/seduction | 12/06/18 10:10 AM |
| 1 | Make Day Game practicalSince you are a mysterymethod dude, how do you run a daygame set out of intertest? Like, I just imagine it looking a bit weird to be seated next too a hot girl at the Dr's surgery, and you start running palm reading routines and doing magic tricks and telling DHV stories and negs etc (stuff that just seems more congruent to nightgame/the bar scene). Do you change things quite a lot? | /r/seduction | 12/06/18 09:04 AM |
| 1 | How many days do you have from meeting someone to asking them out too avoid the friendzone?Shit. Gotta make a fast impression! That might change my work attire... | /r/seduction | 12/06/18 09:00 AM |
| 3 | How many days do you have from meeting someone to asking them out too avoid the friendzone?Oh, well that's OK! 69 days is quite a long time! cheers | /r/seduction | 12/06/18 08:33 AM |
| 2 | Any flirting tips? (Sry if this has alreadx been asked)seddit tends to believe that once you are a friend/acquaintance of a girl, you can't then bang her. I guess 'game' doesn't work on girls you know or something. | /r/seduction | 12/06/18 08:21 AM |
| 2 | I can’t flirt for any fresh hellGirls care about looks?!!! What??????!!!! lol, but yeah, it's probably a bit worse in your head than it actually was. I wouldn't mind being told I had nice eyebrows! haha. Kinda hard I guess to pick someone up at work, even for a girl though, tbh. Can't have much of a chat, so I guess all you can do is be direct and tell him you think he's cute, ask if he's single and give him your number maybe? | /r/seduction | 11/06/18 11:07 PM |
| 2 | Need help getting past LMREven though experience on this sub tells me the answer is ''Walk away. You have been friendzoned'' is that not a bit of a cop out? I have lots of friends who don't know what 'game' is who have escaped the friendzone and banged their 'friend'/crush. Surely on a seduction forum we can do better than just 'walk away'? Are there not things he can say ('other than just blurting his intent') that can help 'seduce' her? Smooth ways to escalate on a friend etc? | /r/seduction | 11/06/18 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Do some girls only show obvious signs of interest if they think you're hitting on them?Doesn't game theory say to only show obvious signs of interest after SHE shows them first? I must admit, though, some of my better interactions have been when I basically do the opposite of what it says in the PUA books lol Lots of variables though, I guess | /r/seduction | 11/06/18 11:28 AM |
| 1 | Running Game vs. Being Myself...rethinking your approach.interesting post tbh I have kind of the opposite problem where i'm OK at getting laid with cold approach in bars (assuming she thinks i'm somewhat handsome obvoiusly) but i'm no good at converting girls I know from social circle etc into lays. It just feels like a different game. I often feel kind of 'lost' without the approach being completely 'cold' where I feel I have more of a 'gameplan' My brother on the other hand is someone who can't get laid for love nor money from a cold approach in a b… | /r/seduction | 11/06/18 09:02 AM |
| 3 | Are women aged 40+ more accessible than young women?Girls are hottest at like 16-22 so they're much harder to bang - Lots of competition. High standards etc. Older women I find much easier. They also tend to be more forward and obvious with their IOI's and stuff which makes the whole thing much easier. Most importantly, they are usually less superficial, so the need to be handsome decreases a fair bit (for hot young girls, looks seem to be all that really matters) | /r/seduction | 10/06/18 09:47 AM |
| 15 | Push through approach anxiety, Girls want us to talk to them...I wish this was always the case. I find that I have a few good interactions with fun, talkative girls and I almost temporarily 'beat' AA and I think, 'girls love it, man! They like being approached' and then i'll get the most brutal, spirt-breaking rejections from the next 5 stunners, and i'll go into a slump again lol. I think some girls like being approached and are always nice no matter what and some girls HATE it (unless you are chad lol) and can be super rude | /r/seduction | 09/06/18 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Kino rejection every timethanks man. That actually helped. As youo say, the incidental touch is easy as you can do it under the pretence of emphasising a point or whatever. And either way, it won't tend to weird her out. But all of the kino literature just says 'Now stage 2. Touch her legs, abdomen, waist etc'' - but like, unless i'm getting HUGE IOI's from her, this has a massive potential to get me a harsh rejection there and there. Like, she's talking about her family, and I'm like ''Yeah, cool'' starts brushing her … | /r/seduction | 15/05/18 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Kino rejection every timeif you try Kino and then she rejects it doesn't mean she's rejected you. It likely means she just wants to "do the dance" which is always two steps forward, one step back Well usually they bail once they've rejected my kino - I guess because they now know that I want to be more than just friends and they don't want that, and so they leave so as not too encourage me. However, from some replies here, it sounds like i'm not doing anything wrong, anyway. The girls just aren't into me. Need to find o… | /r/seduction | 15/05/18 06:14 PM |
| 1 | Kino rejection every timeOK, thanks anyway. | /r/seduction | 15/05/18 05:41 PM |
| 2 | Kino rejection every timeFirst of all, contradiction. You reach the hook point, but you don't sense attraction? Yes. The hook point being that she would rather I stay than go. We are having a fun convo or whatever. But I don't sense 'attraction' i.e - I don't think she thinks i'm hot and wants to bang me hinted at anything relating to emotional connection, or comfort What conversation topics does that need? I feel like I had 'comfort'. Not sure how to define 'emotional connection' tbh and what i'd need to do/say to do i… | /r/seduction | 15/05/18 05:37 PM |
| 1 | I both won & lost the genetic lottery with womenexamples of aforementioned bad demeaning jokes and bad behaviour that I can copy to use on girls please? | /r/seduction | 13/04/18 11:47 AM |
| 1 | Dude looks like Owen from RSDlol, it's not. | /r/seduction | 13/04/18 08:57 AM |
| 5 | English men have no gamethe only way people know how to pick up chicks is after getting way too drunk in a club That's how we do it up in here, yo! | /r/seduction | 12/04/18 06:22 PM |
| 3 | How do I keep a conversation moving?listening is good advice, but it's not always as easy as that when girls are doing their best to give you nothing, and use a short answers as possible etc. It can be a real dog fight in my experience. I even notice PUA's who COACH this stuff stuggle to keep conversation going at times! The abililty to create new threads of conversation that isn't boring is maybe half the battle | /r/seduction | 12/04/18 11:13 AM |
| 5 | I'm being rejected daily...Go over why this girl liked you, or why did she reject me? You'd never really know though, unless you could read her mind? I think in general, the ones that like you think you are good looking, and the ones who reject you, don't! As you said ''In many instances rejection has nothing to do with you''. I think if you try too approach it using the scientific method, there's just an almost unlimited number of variables that could 'potentially' explain why a particular interaction went bad or good. Y… | /r/seduction | 11/04/18 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Are any of you very PRO direct, or PRO indirect?I see. Thanks for clarifying If they like me, I stay in set. If it's obvious that they aren't interested, I just walk away. yeah, this is where the issue can be for guys who aren't handsome. Tee girls are basically always clearly 'not interested' as you say! haha. I guess that's why lots of guys use indirect in an attempt to be able to stick in set longer to hopefully be able to demonstrate some sort of personality traits that she might like, such as humour, banter etc My good looking friends te… | /r/seduction | 11/04/18 03:27 PM |
| 1 | Are any of you very PRO direct, or PRO indirect?Oh. Well my thread specified 'cold approach' so I assumed that's what you meant. Hmmmm..... | /r/seduction | 11/04/18 03:13 PM |
| -6 | What to do when she asks "Are you hitting on me?"''Does it feel like i'm hitting on you?'' | /r/seduction | 11/04/18 03:09 PM |
| 5 | Are any of you very PRO direct, or PRO indirect?you've inspired me to try direct cold approach this Saturday night when I go out. (I usually use indirect) Direct doesn't usually work for me much past the opener, because if I go up too a girl and tell her she's hot, she looks at me in contempt lol since i'm not handsome and tends to give a fast, clear rejection, but in fairness, due too some harsh rejections, I don't have a large sample size as I quit that method fairly fast. I'll try to do at least 5 on Saturday night! | /r/seduction | 11/04/18 03:03 PM |
| 1 | Are any of you very PRO direct, or PRO indirect?u/smooth21 | /r/seduction | 11/04/18 01:50 PM |
| -5 | How to seduce the man I babysit forLet him catch you masturbating (assuming you are hot) 100% chance that he bangs you then and there if you just carry on! | /r/seduction | 11/04/18 12:25 PM |
| 0 | What I've learned after 9 years "in the game": Pre-Opening, Opening, and the TransitionI dont want to get into critiquing your game without seeing you out. I think that kind of shit is pointless and counterproductive, so please feel free to ignore what I said if you feel it doesn’t apply. Its just a thought. It's cool. I appreciate the effort to help out. This is something that was put to me many times before when I was trying to get help online as to why i'm always insta rejected (the idea that I must somehow be communicating a bad 'vibe' that is putting them off) I drove myself … | /r/seduction | 13/03/18 04:06 PM |
| 0 | What I've learned after 9 years "in the game": Pre-Opening, Opening, and the TransitionYeah, I certainly don't go direct and sexual. That seems like suicide for an ugly dude! I try to just be fun cool and curious. ''Hey, who are you?! We haven't met yet'', ''Hi! I like your jacket bla bla bla, what are you up too tonight?'', ''Hi! You look like you're on a works night out?'' They are some example of my recent openers in bars when the girl then proceeds to look at me like I have 6 eyes, then turns away from me or moves towards her friends to 'save' her lol But my handsome friends c… | /r/seduction | 13/03/18 01:11 PM |
| 2 | What I've learned after 9 years "in the game": Pre-Opening, Opening, and the TransitionI tend to think it's more about looks that 'skillset' really. I tend to get 'insta-rejected' about 95% of the time with nightgame approaches! haha. (like girl blatantly ignores me or looks at me weird after I compliment her on her jacket or whatever and she walks away) But i'm not handsome so I don't think girls are willing to even engage you unfortunately. But on the very rare occasion where a girl thinks i'm handsome, then its ON! And so I don't really see it as a 'skill' as such if i'm honest | /r/seduction | 13/03/18 12:46 PM |
| 1 | implementing the escalation ladderexcellent stuff again, man. More useful that some stuff I've paid for, to be honest. This social circle girl; If i'm honest, I don't really care about the social circle element, I guess. I'm just being a pussy. It's not actually social circle as such. I met a hot girl and a few guys out one night on a cold approach. Tried to game the girl and touched her a little and teased her, but they all left before I could make my intent crystal clear. (she seemed to like me at the time and asked me to feel… | /r/seduction | 18/01/18 11:58 PM |
| 1 | implementing the escalation ladderthanks for taking the time. I've saved this post! I think I've been very in-my-head about this stuff more than usual, because I was trying to escalate on a girl a few nights back who is now almost a 'social circle girl' and so I found it much more difficult to escalate than if it was on a cold approach with a COMPLETE stranger. I touched her lots of the arm when I teased her etc, but I never got any furhter as I just never 'felt' any attraction, and then got in my head about how to escalate furt… | /r/seduction | 18/01/18 10:53 PM |
| 1 | implementing the escalation ladderThanks. I might not do the hand size thing as it will draw attention to the fact that my hands aren't very big, lol. Not the best thing for a guy! :) Also I guess my confusion is also that if you do it using a 'reason' such as palm reading or lint in the hair (or commenting on hand size), then she thinks that that's the reason you are touching her and so what have I gained? But then if I do it 'without' using some sort of reason, and just randomly stroke her stopach, then if she isn't attracted,… | /r/seduction | 18/01/18 08:05 PM |
| 1 | I'm going too experiment with old school game this weekend. Wish me luck!!Yeah, you're probably right, but worth a try. What about the false time constraint? Might stop them ignoring me maybe? | /r/seduction | 29/12/17 09:35 AM |
| 1 | Advice for me after a year of bad results?Hi, Yes, I do think I need to be more persistent. I did try to just carry on talking at the girl who is ignoring me sometimes, but I don't think I've ever got close to ''turning her around' and I pretty much decided that from now on, if she's not at least receptive after the open or after I ask her 2-3 questions, it's likely pointless. I'll try to go back to just sticking in until she literally walks away I guess When you say 'tell her what's going on insides' are yo just advocating being direct… | /r/seduction | 28/12/17 09:09 AM |
| 1 | Advice for me after a year of bad results?what do your opens and transitions look like, typically? What do you open with, and what are the first things you ask/say in order to follow up and get a convo going? | /r/seduction | 28/12/17 09:03 AM |
| 1 | Advice for me after a year of bad results?I dress nice and i'm not fat, although I know that i'm certainly not at all handsome (big nose, weak chin etc) But despite that, I have had OK looking girls that are into me in the past, so I know my ugliness isn't a complete cockblock, and so I assume i'm doing 'something' to further hinder my chances, but I just don't know what. As I said, I've been trying to work it out and play with the 'variables' | /r/seduction | 28/12/17 09:01 AM |
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