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| – | What do you think about this quote from Bell Hooks?Strangers dknt really value strangers inherently though Strangers value strangers by what they do, provide etc. it seems like a lot of men want to avoid the part of being human which is competency based. Society should not harm you, but ithe view that you should be valued by others despite you offering no value to them is more harmful to society than the inverse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 02:34 PM |
| – | What do you think about this quote from Bell Hooks?You have it backwards it’s not being kept from you. You haven’t earned it You’ve framed romantic relationships as something owed to you, they aren’t, they are something you can through your own skill, luck, and natural abilities gain access to by your efforts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 02:28 PM |
| – | Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s riskyYou’re close but it’s the opposite—women have something inherently valuable to men. You don’t have more “reasonable standards bc you are more reasonable people” women as a group offer you something and you recognize it There’s nothing men inherently offer women as a group- so you just develop it Men whine that society lies to them and even when it’s broken down as clearly as I have right now they still whine about it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 01:06 PM |
| – | Even men think men are the problemNo one thinks bad women don’t exist, you’ve created that strawman But women are by every objective measure less dangerous to women, children, and even other men than men. The existence of Good soilders doesn’t negate the idea that there are no incidences of women committing mass rapes after war, when men do it routinely and almost universally. The Epstein list was not filled with women. There’s no comparison here You fundamentally don’t know what equality means if you think equality means that a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 12:56 PM |
| – | Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s riskyI’m leaving out those women because plenty of men claim that all women, especially women under a certain age bring something to the table There are men claiming they will take anything and they can’t find any woman to accept them but they would take her if they could Those women by definition bring something to the table because they are wanted by men I find it funny how you are using a buzzword hypergamy to explain something that isn’t even or has ever been controversial-that obviously stabilit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 12:49 PM |
| – | Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s riskyWhy would my metric for what makes a good man be the same as your metric for what makes a good woman? It is plausible that there are not enough good women, if there are by men’s definition not enough good women—but that isn’t men’s primary complaint about women, their primary complaint is that the wlmen aren’t interested It’s not a man bad argument it’s an objective you can’t just DECIDE women aren’t good enough bc you’re but hurt about men not being good enough. You have to provide the reasons … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 12:45 PM |
| 2 | Even men think men are the problemMen’s desire to make women seem as violent, rapey, and dangerous as them in insane Almost every war and conflict has involved men raping enemy women at scale. Please show the stats that showcase men fearing infiltration of Enemy women because they are afraid of mass rape | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 11:52 PM |
| 0 | Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s riskyThis is projection It’s not really about being the full package it’s about being enough of a package. And wlmen are generally as is, enough of a package and men are not Men claim all the time they are happy who is average looking and nice to them that’s it. So according to men, there are plenty of women who they would be happy partnering with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 11:36 PM |
| -1 | Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s riskyBy what metric are there few suitable female partners? You can’t just claim that there are not enough suitable women because there are not enough suitable men Men tell us all the time they wish girls on their level/average women would give them a chance. It doesn’t sound like men are claiming they are single bc there aren’t enough enoug eligible women but because women aren’t interested in them/giving them a chance | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 11:34 PM |
| 3 | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.Give me some examples of her women coerce them into marriage | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 11:31 PM |
| 6 | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.This might be a semantics issue But it comes down to the definition of "doesn't want to" "actively doesn't want" or "neutrally doesnt want" Doesn't want to can mean doesn't want to yet, as in she hasn't formed an opinion about to and she's open to it Or doesn't want to can mean she's made the decision that she doesn't want to. Making a pass at someone who hasn't formed an opinion on you isn't coercive but trying to get someone to do something when you know they don't want to do it is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 08:01 PM |
| 5 | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.Your posing of this questions proves the point your arguing against You think men inherently try to get women who dont want to have sex have sex with them You think thats harmless. A lot of women think its rape culture And a lot of advocates want women to know they don't have to accept this. I, and many women, personally think its really disgusting that you think until there is a firm "no" you should keep going | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 07:50 PM |
| 4 | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.Sex isn't like anything else And the only men trying to arguing that it is and that repeatedly trying to get a woman to sleep with you is the same as repeatedly trying to get you to take out the trash are rapey | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 07:46 PM |
| -2 | Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s riskyNot really Women choosing better men means unironically choosing no man Responsibility, loyalty, stability are extremely important factors in choosing a partner. But so is chemistry, social skills and yes someone you are attracted to A man who is only responsible and stable but isn’t also fun, interesting, cute etc is a fine co parent but not really a suitable romantic partner There aren’t really enough men who fit the first bill to go around for women to “genuinely choose better” at large | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 06:02 PM |
| 9 | Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s riskyThe issue is of course there’s no way to enforce this prior to having children You can’t really see if they are going to step up in this way UNLESS they are generous in other ways before having children Because after you have children it’s too late, that’s the point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 05:58 PM |
| – | Women Can't Be "Used" For Sex If They Consented. That's Feminist Victim Mentality Rhetoric.Women don’t really feel used just because Sax was had though Women tend to feel used when the man was going out of his way to make it seem like he was interested in a serious relationship only to be interested in sex As an example, I’ve had friends who the man referred to as wifey and introduced to parents and then the man acted like the woman was crazy when she thought the relationship was going somewhere Similarly for men, a woman letting you buy her dinner whatever it’s fundamentally using yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 12:02 PM |
| 3 | Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic.It’s not suppose to be a good thing It’s wome sick of being the noble ones Now they’re just as bad as men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 01:09 AM |
| 3 | Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic.I actually agree with you. Women use to be nicer To their determent I'm proud of women for collectively saying fuck that. Women are now acting like men and men are loosing their minds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 09:53 PM |
| 4 | Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic.Even so, this is just criticism to police single women enjoying their lives through whatever means they deem worthy You think women with 6 kids have interesting lives or hobbies? You think most men have interesting hobbies and discuss necheize over tea. Nope They dont want women to have interesting hobbies and deeper thoughts, because if they did, they would be advocating for women to have less children and more education. Instead they just dont like that women are deciding that frivolity is bet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 09:48 PM |
| 5 | Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic.You can’t be serious She defended her actions bc there’s nothing wrong with them Cannot fathom who you think empathizes with sugar daddies. It’s a relationship dynamic where you’re trying to use each other and you’re mad she’s trying to use you lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 04:46 PM |
| 5 | Attraction isn’t a meritocracyThis view is misses the mark What women and bluepillers are saying is that ALL kinds of men have success with women. As men here like to point out; even criminals and wifebeats, and losers and obese men have girlfriends. Jails and Walmarts are filled with men who have girlfriends. It doesn't mean all men have the same exact success but most people, even the worst of the worst find someone at some point it is unusual if you cant do that; and makes people wonder what is wrong with you. NOT because… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 01:22 AM |
| 2 | Women Sometimes Do Bad and Anti-Social Things towards Men and Boys. This is a Radical Idea to Women Here.That’s the thing They aren’t EVEN nice They aren’t handsome, aren’t fun, aren’t charismatic AND aren’t generous, hard working, compassionate or kind They have literally nothing going for them. They wouldn’t pass the threshold or either a shallow or a non shallow woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 01:12 PM |
| 1 | Guys need to ask themselves what value they bring to others.Sigh Do you hear yourself You’ve decided that what you want is valid and other people should have tk make sacrifices to make you happy But what others want isn’t valid, when though what they want doesn’t require any sacrifices from you It doesn’t matter WHY a woman does not want you, the fact that you want her is not more important than the fact that she doesn’t consent to being with you Additionally, there is nothing about your comments to indicate you are kind | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 09:58 PM |
| 2 | Guys need to ask themselves what value they bring to others.You’re confusing political valuea/ social institutions with personal dating habits Societies should be places we’re legally everyone can flourish You as an individual do not need to be a place for others to flourish. There’s no hypocrisy for instance in being a progressive and wanting to date a tall rich man because Individual women are not resources to distribute | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 08:37 PM |
| 3 | Guys need to ask themselves what value they bring to others.If you are successful, physically fit, educated and etc You shouldn’t even know any women with two kids out of wedlock That’s a socioeconomic issue and if you’re running into those women and having conversations with them I’m betting you aren’t actually successful and educated | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid careThe alternative doesn’t make much sense either Do what women traditionally do; the pain of pregnancy, birth, breastfeeding and be the parent who manages the children AND work a demanding job doesn’t fundamentally make mose sense I’m not in a traditionalist sect; everyone I know is quite liberal. I generally found it really easy to find men who were intrinsically motivated to be successful while also not pawning all childcare duties off on their wives Wome can be as uncomfortable as they want, co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 09:47 PM |
| 21 | Men nowadays want babies to grow up in paid careThe issue is less women vetting and more; there aren’t enough men who qualify for this I grew up affluent. My husband/ all my friends husbands are generally men who have great careers and are responsible around the house and have no problem if their wives take off work after having kids I don’t buy that we “picked better” men. We were just around better men. I have lower income cousins who have had children outside of wedlock with men who don’t help nearly as much: they dated and procreated with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 05:28 PM |
| 7 | Women Sometimes Do Bad and Anti-Social Things towards Men and Boys. This is a Radical Idea to Women Here.Being harmed or more accurately described as feeling slighted in the examples you described, is still not misandry though More importantly, acting like you’re feeling slighted is some national emergency is actually th issue Your mother divorcing your father bc she doesn’t want to be married to him is not misandry against you. Even if it affects you As for young men becoming red pilled bc they noticed the treatment of men around them. What treatment are they noticing? Women are ignoring men, that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 02:36 AM |
| 1 | Women Sometimes Do Bad and Anti-Social Things towards Men and Boys. This is a Radical Idea to Women Here.The only decent example you have of misogyny is the discrimination against men in education—that’s a real actionable issue that deserve examination Women being single mothers and choosing to divorce their husband is not misandry. Even if women are divorcing their husbands because they are merely unhappy and would prefer not to be in the relationship..that’s not misandry White lies to young men that they will find slmeone eventually are also not misandry. Anymore than telling someone, I’m fine, w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 01:54 AM |
| 3 | Guys need to ask themselves what value they bring to others.You’re close: I’ve put a lot of effort into developing a social network, I find a lot of people are flakey and it’s difficult to develop real friendships But I don’t struggle to understand why popular people are popular, or even how “bad people could have better personalities than me. I’m sure plenty of terrible people have great charisma, Are magnetic, are fun. Maybe yoh mean moral character instead of personality. Being someone being more fun than you can mean they have a better personality th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 12:35 AM |
| 2 | Guys need to ask themselves what value they bring to others.Because criminals getting dates over you isn’t a social issue…it doesn’t register as important in any way to other people who aren’t you You’re making this a dating issue when it’s a likability issue. Epstein has a lot more friends than me. I actually don’t need someone to tell me he shouldn’t have more friends with me—because I can figure out why he did. I don’t aspire to be like Epstein so what he had isn’t relevant to me: still I’m able to understand why he did. You’re not doing the work to f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 09:35 PM |
| 3 | Guys need to ask themselves what value they bring to others.Why do you people close your eyes to the obvious realities of life and then say “see the red pill in action It surprises absolutely zero women that beautiful, charismatic, famous women can get away with more shit than them I truly cannot image a plane boring nothing going for her woman besides being “nice” being SHOCKED that beautiful bitches got more attention than her or even assert she’s actually a better partner than than the beautiful bitch. Truth is being a good partner and personality is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 09:11 PM |
| 6 | Guys need to ask themselves what value they bring to others.I’m confirming there are 8 billion people and it shouldn’t be surprising to you that list and matter to differing degrees to different people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 09:02 PM |
| 0 | Guys need to ask themselves what value they bring to others.How do you people deal with the other facts of life I’m not painting a picture of how things ought to be in an ideal world; I am saying objectively and obviously people in fact weigh different things differently. I loathe trump and would never be interested in such a disgusting man but I’m not also surprised a 6’5 funny to a lot of people billionaire had more women interested than him than some wispy random dude Societally, you should aim to hold criminals and abusers accountable but personally … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 09:00 PM |
| 7 | Guys need to ask themselves what value they bring to others.This is a really juvenile take tbh People are PACKAGES of good and bad things. A lot of men with little to offer need to accept that the packages of even bad men is better than what they offer or at least is appreciated differently by the audience Look at Epstein of trump or any number of shitty people. Average ass people are going to be shunned for being a pedophile; Epstein was embraced in spite of it /bc of it bc he was outrageously rich and connected. That’s not a ‘gotcha’ or something peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 05:11 PM |
| 0 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.Probably depends on where she lives and her sub culture to be honest To more educated women, part of masculinity is being competant and successful | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 03:50 PM |
| 0 | Women who struggle to find a long-term partner aren't "too good" for the men who are also singleWomen’s complaints are generally echoed by publications and society in general which trends to give them more weight I’ve not seen young’s men’s criticisms that young women are good enough, mostly that women won’t accept them. Do you have any other examples | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 03:45 PM |
| – | Men aren't lonely and single because they're toxic, violent and sexist; they're lonely and single because they're unattractive, broke and awkwardWhy do you say admitted like you’ve caught me in some kind of gotcha There are billions of people on earth NOTHING is a dealbreaker for everyone That’s where the ‘there is someone for everyone’ phrase comes from | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 10:23 PM |
| 0 | Women who struggle to find a long-term partner aren't "too good" for the men who are also singleIt’s means “men” as a group aren’t offering much And if the prevailing idea is that women increasingly don’t want to date them, it does seem relevant | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 10:17 PM |
| 0 | Women who struggle to find a long-term partner aren't "too good" for the men who are also singleYou made an assertion without actually arguing it The prevailing idea in a lot of circles is that there is a genuine dearth of eligible men You can disagree with this sure, but you didn’t explain why | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 07:31 PM |
| 5 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.You can Google liberal elite and who makes up the educated upper middle class yourself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 02:11 AM |
| 3 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.They statistically are more likely to be liberals than conservatives | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 01:51 AM |
| 20 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.Even the idea that getting your hands dirty = masculine doesn’t track Women don’t view police, plumbers and trades people are more masculine than lawyers, doctors etc, in fact a lot of women prefer men with corporate jobs and write off men who work with their hands for a living, which wouldn’t make sense if women thought those jobs were more manly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 09:56 PM |
| 5 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.You think someone not giving you a cheat code is them lying to themselves they are being polite to you I have never once when described what I was looking for specify I want that person to be as good looking as possible because it’s implied. I never once said I wanted him to make XX amount of money not because I didn’t understand my own standard but bc it’s a rude thing to express to other people Women don’t owe it to you to spell things out for you, it doesn’t mean they are lying to themselves … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 07:51 PM |
| 7 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.They aren’t unicorns though highly paid, highly educated, well traveled young men are more likely to be liberal than conservative o | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 07:38 PM |
| 4 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.Liberal men engage in benevolent sexism more than conservative men do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 07:33 PM |
| 28 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.Liberal states are richer too. Who makes more money the men in ma, ca or ny or the men in Mississippi, Alabama and Kentucky. Where did the idea that conservative men work harder, make more, or are more fit even come from | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 07:30 PM |
| 93 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.Reddit doesn’t really understand who liberals are Every major city in America is filled with liberals; the people eating in Michelin star restaurants, liberals. The guys at the equinox, liberals. Elite universities, liberals. Celebrities, liberals. All the men I know are well educated have jobs in high finance, medicine consultanting, workout etc and are all liberals This weird idea that liberals men arent good looking masculine men is so strange to me I mean look at Obama versus trump for goodn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 07:22 PM |
| 16 | It’s not that women having inflated egos. It’s just a lot of guys underestimate a woman’s worth in the dating market.Additionally even if the market is showing that average girls have a legion of male followers, admirers and men willing to take them on dates and beg for their attention that’s actually proof the women ARE NOT overvalued That is their value in the market. If you can’t afford the value or don’t want to pay it, don’t. But you can’t keep screeching that what women have is being overinflated in value while everyone wants their value. That’s the definition of not being overinflated, women are just de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 01:11 PM |
| 0 | Women are lucky that men tend to have low standards and be simps.It’s simple really Either sex and validation are not that important in which case you should stop worrying about it, not inconvenience yourself to get it and don’t worry if it never happens or comes to you, because it’s not important anyway Or sex and female validation was extremely important and you’re life is unfulfilled without it. If this is the case, spend whatever you need to spend and devote whatever time and energy is needed to in order to get it. But for the love of god stop identifying… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 07:13 PM |
| – | I feel like men being the sole providers is an unrealistic expectation in 2026.The issue is this; there's a lot of labor to be done especially in a relationship with a family and if that work is equal or greater than the work that needs to be done when you are single, the relationship makes less sense. When women have to work and are primary caregivers of children that can become a problem | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 01:29 PM |
| 4 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic onesYou have a mismatch on what average is and what your match is. If you're a man and 50% of men are better than you and 50% of men are worst than you, your match isn't nessesarily a woman who 50% of women are better than and 50% of women are worst then. Your match is someone who has the same value you do. If the 50% of woman has more value than you do, she isn't your match. Women generally have more 'value' than the corresponding man does; you outlined it yourself. If a 50% woman has a lot of inte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 01:08 PM |
| 1 | Men don’t want relationships, they want serviceIf by equality you mean sameness, why would a woman want such a relationship If you do the exact same things she does/ her female friends do, what incentive would she have to be intimate with you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 10:58 PM |
| 1 | Being her best sexually isn't that important and is unrealisticThe level of sacrifice isn’t relevant the value yoh provide is You want something of high value you have to provide something of high value | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 12:30 PM |
| – | Most women don't consider themselves average, and that's a problemNo one. Which is why an increasing amount of women/people will stay single There aren’t enough good people to go around | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 11:46 AM |
| – | Most women don't consider themselves average, and that's a problemIt’s simple She doesn’t want you as much as you want her. You’ve decided, or think that, she ought to want you as much or you should want each other equally— you don’t If you don’t think what women offer is a “big deal” softness, making a house a home, sex etc. opt out of woken and go without those things The fact that so many men want women, seeems to indicate they are in fact a big deal. If so, women are naming their price meet it or don’t | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 11:41 AM |
| 0 | Being her best sexually isn't that important and is unrealisticIt’s very clearly the same. Both are actions reserved for a small number of people that each member of the opposite sex actually values Women don’t care if dudes want to fuck them. Being “desired” unless that desire translates to actual tangible benefit” doesn’t mean anything to women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 12:34 PM |
| 1 | Being her best sexually isn't that important and is unrealisticYou aren’t suppose to tell it to your boyfriend and girlfriend they are suppose to be able to look in the mirror and look at their surroundings and figure it out…. Girls in Appalachia shouldn’t need to be told they aren’t going to be flown to Paris this weekend. They should just know. Men who don’t look like Instagram models shouldn’t need to be told they aren’t Chad, they should be able to figure that out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 12:29 PM |
| 4 | Being her best sexually isn't that important and is unrealisticNormal women are desired. And being desired as in lusted over isn’t that important to most women The female equivilent is princess treatment. Having everything paid for you all the time, being relentlessly taken care. And yea only a minority of women get that too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 11:41 AM |
| – | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.Because life is confusing and contradictory and part of being socially adept is being able to navigate that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 06:22 PM |
| – | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.I don’t think you’re making it up I think your approaching it with the expediency of DoorDash and getting mad when you can’t order up the thing you want Figuring out and navigating dating relationships and women takes YEARS. It’s suppose to take years and trial and error and be painful at times. It’s like that for most people. But for whatever reason youno men have decided they are being jipped because they didn’t get a cheat code to life The example you shared is a nothing burger and further pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 06:19 PM |
| – | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.Your male friends liked each woman the same regardless of what they looked like? The fat girls with glasses got as much attention as the cheerleaders The most popular guys at your school weren’t cute or rich or athletic ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 05:50 PM |
| – | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.You just switched the words. I said a woman would pick you—you said you wanted a woman to find you attractive. Those are two different things No one ever said being decent would make women attracted to you. Being attractive will make a woman attracted to you But again if you’re a normal man as you say—you are putting in effort and you cannot find a single woman to date you, not limiting yourself to cute women, etc but literally can’t find A WOMAN, than yes something is likely wrong with you My g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 03:50 PM |
| – | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.You men have difficulty with nuance Being merely decent won’t give you pick of the litter, and women who otherwise have options aren’t going to pick you because of it It is also true that SO many people are coupled up; fat, ugly, poor, pedophile cheaters often have girlfriends and thus if you can’t find a single solitary woman ever in life interested in you, there is likely something wrong with you No contradiction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 03:38 PM |
| – | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.Relationships aren’t taught to you though— that is what you’re missing. It underlies that the red pill emerged because an increasingly amount of men are autistic. You have to learn relationships through trial and error and observation, this is an has always been understood You have to learn to navigate social situations and if you haven’t you need to take personal responsibility for that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 03:31 PM |
| – | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.Friends and reality are what you should have observed Imagine thing your parents family or the women who rejected you are suppose to give you practical advice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 02:39 PM |
| – | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.Women get over the myriad of disgusting things about men’s sexuality why can you not cope with the realities of female sexuality? It’s completely unreasonable that instead of being personally embarrassed that you can’t measure up or dealing with your insecurities you think the system a better system is one where your wife is forbade from having hot men before you I bet you do not see this as creepy in some way, that you want to diminish women’s sexual enjoyment for your own | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 02:38 PM |
| – | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.That is quite litterally what dating /marrying is though And your positioning this as something society needs to shield from you as oppose to something you have to just get over People end up with the best they can get on all dimensions and people do not marry the hottest person they can find because that’s not what marriage is. Of course she married you because her priorities changed—every man and every woman has different priorities for the person they marry, commingle finances with have kids … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:14 PM |
| – | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.It’s not about it being a different time Men should be embarassed for taking the advice of their grandmothers.That is totally on them for thinking your mother and grandmother would be able to give you accurate dating advice Boomer men didn’t expect their moms to care about them getting laid or being attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 12:53 PM |
| – | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.You ask for two different paradoxical things For an understanding of female desire That your eventual spouse wouldn’t have felt more intense desire for someone else As a general rule, women don’t go around having raw desire for most random men. This is not due to social media this is due to how women operate and the fact that most men aren’t cute. Women can develop desire once the man performs a certain way or does certain things but if you want aw immediate desire. YOU need tk be raw immediatel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 12:50 PM |
| 4 | if given two options, 99.9% of women would choose the shy guy over a serial killerI understand what it is. Porn is a supernormal stimulus, romance novels are not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 10:58 AM |
| 9 | if given two options, 99.9% of women would choose the shy guy over a serial killerYou’re assuming that without these stimuli, women find normal men interesting Men and women aren’t the same at their base. Men naturally have an interest in most women women don’t naturally have an interest in most men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 10:11 AM |
| 4 | Do men just want to be seen as attractive and nothing else?Yea women are the opposite as men in this regard We want to be valued for what we do because we understand what we do is who we are; we want you to value our career our success, our humor, our personalities, social network etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 04:58 PM |
| 14 | Do most women feel they have to restrain their sexuality to find a compatible man?There’s nothing to be accountable for though, that is what you’re missing She’s saying the kind of partner she wants wouldn’t care. It means the men who do care aren’t her type and she’s fine with not being the man who cares type as well When I was dating, I wouldnt date anyone with dietary restrictions. Plenty of great eligible men have them but I still didn’t want to deal with it, and so it was a dealbreaker for me. A lot of people would think that’s silly and that’a okay— it has nothing to do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 02:09 PM |
| -3 | What should be the appropriate punishment for a paternity fraud?Sure if you’re intentionally scamming; I imagine this happens most often where the woman isn’t trying to defraud anyone or isn’t going out of their way to prove the man in question is the father or she doesn’t know Don’t get me wrong it’s obviously a very shitty thing to do if you know without a shadow of the doubt a man isn’t a father and you try to convince him otherwise, but what probably happens is that a woman thinks a man is the father tells him he’s a father, and the man acts as the fathe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 09:15 PM |
| 1 | What should be the appropriate punishment for a paternity fraud?The effects of it do sure, but the 'act in question is infidelity and lying which Aren't fundamentally illegal and certainly doesnt necessarily qualify as domestic abuse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 08:19 PM |
| -2 | What should be the appropriate punishment for a paternity fraud?its essentially just cheating at the end of the day, which isnt illegal. Its not inherently fraud and it would probably have to clear a few hurdles or be particularly egregious to constitute fraud | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 08:13 PM |
| 3 | What should be the appropriate punishment for a paternity fraud?paternity fraud is essentially just infidelity infidelity is not domestic abuse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, to what degree do you want double standards?The question your asking is about heterosexuality not double standards If men and women don’t treat each other differently in any way…no one would be straight | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 02:25 PM |
| 2 | Men aren't lonely and single because they're toxic, violent and sexist; they're lonely and single because they're unattractive, broke and awkwardWhy? If you’re looking to hookup only wanting to hook up with very hot guys (however you define that makes a certain amount of sense. You aren’t potentially missing out of anything with your high standards But if you’re marriage minded those are pretty silly standards to have | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 09:19 PM |
| 7 | What do you have to offer?It’s not chores specifically. A man splitting chores still not mean he’s a good partner The question remains; what do you do in general that makes the experience of being with you better than the experience of being alone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 08:33 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillYou think that women who want to sleep with criminals are bad women, understanding many of those women are criminals themselves Why are you not a bad man for wanting to sleep with criminal women; but women are bad for sleeping with criminal men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 07:49 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillHow is a man who is jelous is serial killers better than a serial killer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 07:02 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillOk so the women who want rapists and murderers are bad people. I assume you don’t want to date bad people, anyway so what is the problem | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 06:43 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillWhy do you think it’s not acceptable that that women find you less interesting than murderers and what do you think should be done about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 06:05 PM |
| 2 | Men aren't lonely and single because they're toxic, violent and sexist; they're lonely and single because they're unattractive, broke and awkwardShe likely isn’t actually serious about marriage | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:55 PM |
| 6 | Men aren't lonely and single because they're toxic, violent and sexist; they're lonely and single because they're unattractive, broke and awkwardThere are no universal deal breakers for every single person. There are women who like cult leaders. Women who like everything. Which is why the men who cannot get a single woman ever to like them are side eyed Ugly, fat, criminal, broke men DO get laid all the time. What exactly is the reason that no one ever likes you considering even dregs of society can find someone to like them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:54 PM |
| 4 | Men aren't lonely and single because they're toxic, violent and sexist; they're lonely and single because they're unattractive, broke and awkwardWhat is your cousin looking for and how old is she? Short term dating or relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:47 PM |
| 5 | Men aren't lonely and single because they're toxic, violent and sexist; they're lonely and single because they're unattractive, broke and awkwardSigh Can I ask why this would surprise you. I’d guess that a criminal violent dealer gets invited to more parties or has more friends Than a meek uninteresting nobody People are a complication of posative and negative traits; and what constitutes a posative trait depends on the person If you like mindless thrills someone who steals cars is more interesting whose cat is their best friend If you like heroin someone who sells it better than someone who pushes papers all day Again why would does thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:25 PM |
| 6 | Men aren't lonely and single because they're toxic, violent and sexist; they're lonely and single because they're unattractive, broke and awkwardThere are three categories of men “Good” “ neutral” and “bad” The core difference between men and women is women put “neutral” in the bad category and men put neutral in the good category. A man who is unattractive, broke, and awkward IS bad because—and stay with me boys—to be in the “good” category you have to have qualities that make you positively good to date. The absence of datable qualities makes you bad to date Are broke unattractive awkward men evil, of course not. And women don’t dismis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:12 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillIt’s not in the eyes of women. It’s in the EYES of PEOPLE No one likes loner losers. Not men not women, no one. The posing of the question is disingenuous; it isn’t a question of why women like these people, the question only makes sense if you’re asking why do these people have girlfriends AND friends, because the answer to both is the same | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 04:37 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillWhy do you specify women is my question? No one cared not just women Epstein was rich and powerful and well liked until it was no longer socially acceptable PEOPLE like rich connected otherwise interesting people (even when such people are morally bankrupt) more than weak sky people with nothing going for them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 03:12 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillEpstein was extremely socially accepted by everyone including and especially men Why would you expect someone who was this accepted by his contemporaries to be shunned by women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 02:59 PM |
| – | how do redpillers explain what you see outside in the dating world vs. what they say ?Unless the red pill is exclusively for children who have no concept of how the world works, this explanation is silly Being nice and being yourself is and has always been a platitude; it was never presented as advice men should use to go and appeal to someone who was otherwise not interested in them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 10:59 PM |
| 2 | If men understood having a victim complex is "feminine", very few of them would have it.Men have an inherent attraction to women that doesn’t exist in the reverse Men prefer women to be feminine, but they are horny the truth is in about every situation men will hump whatever js available to them (even and including other men Women aren’t like that; their interest in men and their interest in sex is not absolute . Below a certain (relatively high threshold) it’s not worth it to women and it is to men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 10:43 PM |
| 3 | Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want"Reeces pieces cookies with almond abstract. And you want to be a baker?!? Are you an 8 year old baking for a bake sale. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 10:56 AM |
| 7 | Having increasingly high "standards" doesn’t make you more discerning, nor does it guarantee better relationshipsThis is a fundamental disagreement in how women prefer to date though Everyone knows that if you give someone a chance who doesn’t meet your ideal standards you might fall in love with them—that’s the point— you don’t want to fall in love with them You want to filter your standards first and then only potentially fall in love with those people One of the biggest reasons for heartbreak is dating someone who you KNOW has a trait you don’t like, because it becomes harder to extricate yourself from … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 04:41 PM |
| 0 | What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience?First, I think you outlined your perspective really well. Second, what are men asking to perform and do instead of masculinity—because that’s the crux of the issue. Feminism was the fight for independence so that women didn’t have to be in relationships in the first place and the fight that within relationships they wouldn’t be restricted to the feminine role (so they could do aspects of the masculine role) We agree that men have the right not to be in relationships (something they don’t appreci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 07:44 PM |
| 1 | What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience?Your examples are great, but I believe they prove my point a bit more than yours. Women did fight not to perform femininity for male appoval. But the result is that women genuinely had to care less about men’s approval. There are a lot of women who dgaf about male approval because feminism promised them the freedom to choose not the result that the opposite sex would embrace the choice. Men have that same choice. Men get to cry and wear dresses and be broke. They can do those things and have rig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 05:56 PM |
| – | Having low standards doesn't make you charitable, and it's not correlated with the ability ti love deeplyEhh that’s very nice, but overal idyllic advice I believe your imaging a scenario where you meet someone they are otherwise perfect for you, but have a less than ideal financial situation. Thats not really what I’m referring to Rather, youre in a Scenario like a dating app, etc with a million options and you aren’t attached to any of them. You can easily swipe left on them before any form of attachment has been made | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 05:45 PM |
| 0 | What everyday disadvantages of feminism do you experience?But no one ever argued that the absolution of societal gender roles would or was suppose to a gender less soceity, I question where men even got this idea and if they would want it Using your example of a date, let’s say you’re expected to do the gendered thing and pay for the date, she is doing gendered things as well, you’ve just decided not to see it. If she shows up acting and dressing like a dude and expecting to take the dominate role and peg you; you aren’t going to call her back either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 05:00 PM |
| – | Having low standards doesn't make you charitable, and it's not correlated with the ability ti love deeplyCharacter isn’t the only important aspect of a partner. Whether someone is fun to be around or shares your interests aren’t drive by character but they are important Virtually no one chooses their partner * for money* but rather exclude potential partners based financially incompatibility If you ever want to own a home, have a family it’s a pretty important aspect to consider | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 04:30 PM |
| 5 | Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want"You’re not a woman though lol These takes of ‘women can do this why can’t I’ are the definition of autistic. It would be easier for you to find a male partner to do these things with than a woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 03:26 PM |
| – | Having low standards doesn't make you charitable, and it's not correlated with the ability ti love deeplyWhy do you think socioeconomic status is irrelevant to a good relationship when money is one of the top reasons for divorce and the economy is worse than ever? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 03:21 PM |
| – | Wives who don’t have regular sex with their husbands should never have married himI don’t think you’re wrong But this is the rub; as a society we understand or at least treat sex as different than most other things. We view people who take sex worse than we view people who take things. We feel unique sadness for woman who uses her body to sell sex more than a woman use who uses her body to scrub toilets Women find the idea of sharing sex to be completely reasonable-but the idea of providing sex when it’s not mutually desired especially as some sort of primal ich of their part… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 03:33 PM |
| – | Wives who don’t have regular sex with their husbands should never have married himQuestion what is the female equivalent of this? The thing that women are owed from men even if they don’t want to give it? Generally I would say partners should try to make each other happy, and that will require compromise but you’re going further and saying sex is a requirement men should be able to expect from women what is the inverse requirement women should expect from men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 01:07 PM |
| – | Wives who don’t have regular sex with their husbands should never have married himQuestion what is the female equivalent of this? The thing that women are owed from men even if they don’t want to give it? Generally I would say partners should try to make each other happy, and that will require compromise but you’re going further and saying sex is a requirement men should be able to expect from women what is the inverse requirement women should expect from men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 01:07 PM |
| – | Wives who don’t have regular sex with their husbands should never have married himHonestly…and most men aren’t gonna like it. The less you can have your woman do, the more she’s going to want you. It’s where the blue pill idea that you should do chores comes from. I don’t think women cares if her man does chores I think women just care if they themselves aren’t doing chores; meaning if you can afford it, outsource as much as possible Women generally need time to feel Feminine and sexy to want sex and they’re time you’re slogged down with drudgery the less randy you’re going t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 08:20 AM |
| – | Wives who don’t have regular sex with their husbands should never have married himI’m not really sure how pre marital discussion would help here tbh Putting your “relationship before children” doesn’t really tangibly work when you have young children. If getting up in the middle of the night is zapping your energy for sex you can’t just..not do it to “put your relationship first” Moreover, and this isn’t discussed enough if sex is something women need to do regardless of if they are feeling it, it becomes a chore for them like doing the dishes does | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 08:11 AM |
| – | Wives who don’t have regular sex with their husbands should never have married himThat's great for you but for a lot of women kids really put the damper on sexy time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 01:19 AM |
| – | Wives who don’t have regular sex with their husbands should never have married himThe point is that men and women have incompatible libidos almost by definition-you say as much in your post. So couples either have to just live with the incompatibility (which is people do all the time or your advice then to women is simply don't get married? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 01:15 AM |
| – | Wives who don’t have regular sex with their husbands should never have married himInteresting topic The mismatch seems to be the difference in how men and women handle stress Men tend to view sex as stress relief; something they do to help them feel better Women tend to view sex as something they want to do when they are feeling better first; and the idea that sex is just an ich/need is sort of disgusting to a lot of women. It's why sex tanks as a relationship progresses. It's pretty easy to be horny after a romantic evening out or a vacation etc. And just harder to feel horn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 01:05 AM |
| – | Wives who don’t have regular sex with their husbands should never have married himThe issue here is that pregnancy and kids often tank women’s libido even if he’s doing his fair share I don’t want to gaslight men and pretend the only reason their not get laid with young kids is because they aren’t helping Even if the woman is doing 50% that 50% really wipes out a lot of women’s libidos. Even if he’s doing a lot if she’s also doing a lot, it’s stuff too much tbh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 12:42 AM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themIf women would rather die than be partnered with you…shouldn’t that tell you something | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 09:55 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themWhen women have the choice; they will choose no man over an okay man When they can choose not to be married; they will leave marriages that don’t make them happy and only choose to be married when they think their married life is better than staying single Does that surprise you? Especially considering it is your belief and presumably other men’s that her consent is optional but you’re desires (to a woman who would rather be left alone btw are paramount | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 09:51 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themCan I answer your question with a question? Why do you think women are choosing men less now? I think when women have the option there are just not that many men who have the qualities that women want. What do you think | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 09:17 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themAbolishing welfare would just increase the abortion rare not increase the pairing rate The biggest reason upper middle class women don’t have babies out of wevlock is bc they don’t have the same social safety net. Poorer women do so they are less choosy with their partners and who they give birth to. Abolishing welfare would make younger women swear off men would then it would encourage them to partner with them The one exception would be women who already have children…single mothers would part… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 09:07 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themWhy do you think pressuring women to do something they don’t want to do a better outcome then men dealing with the reality that they aren’t desirable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 09:03 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themIt’s about consent; and women are increasingly alarmed that consent doesn’t seem to matter to a lot of you. You said you can’t see a society where men can’t touch working working; as if women are entities and not people and if people don’t want you—that should bother you. It should make you feel a certain way about yourself. Women don’t want you (generally you not you specifically) and you want them and you’ve decided that what you want matters and what they want doesn’t—without an answer given … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 09:00 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themYou are taking about rape and slavery Because that is the only way you’re are going to be able to get women who do you want you; do you seriously not understand that. You’re trying couch it in language to make it seem less bad but that’s what it is. You need to explain why you think rape and slavery are so much bettet than war; because I guarantee to women they are the same | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 07:50 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themWhy do you not see trying to compel women to date.marry men they don’t like as a better option. You clearly don’t see how oppressive entering into relationships they don’t want to me in is for women Plenty would prefer war if that’s the only option | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 06:59 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themDude…. most of the people who work in critical infrastructure are men Most men don’t work in critical infrastructure Are you seriously having trouble grasping that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 06:34 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themIf their desires of a meaningful future and achievable goals are 'getting women' they want war anyway They keep teasing that if women don't start picking them there will be war. But what they want 'women choosing men they don't want to be with, isn't better than war. Women will have awful lives in both situations, so a civil war (where a lot of men get killed) is probably the best bet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 06:13 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themBro How many workers? It's not all men. If your argument is that we need men because they are the essential works and pay taxes The easy rebuttal is we need just the men who pay the taxes and provide essential services, and that is no where near most men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 06:05 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themBullshit We do not need most men to keep society running The top 10% of income earners produce 70% of taxes. Most men don’t work in critical infrastructure; and increasing amount of all young people are barely literally and ubemployable The idea that most men are needed in society is cope | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 05:37 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themthe United States isn’t the biggest military force because we have the money people, but bc we have power and money Your numbers don’t really mean anything your power would Why do you think the people with power wouldn’t squash you I understand youd go down with a fight, so there would be a war, casualties and misery in both sides, sure Still not a worse outcome than giving you what you want | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 05:34 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themthe United States isn’t the biggest military force because we have the money people, but bc we have power and money Your numbers don’t really mean anything your power would Why do you think the people with power wouldn’t squash you I understand youd go down with a fight, so there would be a war, casualties and misery in both sides, sure Still not a worse outcome than giving you what you want | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 05:33 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themMost men don’t work on the power lines now or perform essential work How many men do you need to keep society running? it’s definitely not all of them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 05:21 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themYou’re not explaining why they would give the losers the women and playcate them though Why not send a war and send the losers for instance? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 05:19 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themThe biggest difference between the part and present js religion And that normal men were needed. Surfs had a purpose so keeping him semi-happy was desirable Plenty of men now don’t do anything, they don’t labor, they don’t contribute, why keep them happy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 05:17 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themUnselected men have convinced themselves women don’t like them But no one likes them tbh. It’s women and liberal politics that actually believe homeless men, mentally ill men, poor men should be given a hand up….men like unsuccessful men less than women do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 04:54 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themUnselected unsuccessful men have decided women don’t like them; when the truth is men like them even less They want them to be a man/versus woman war without understanding men who are actually successful don’t identify with them and would never choose them over women Trump for instance is a misogynist; but he has use for women. The men who want to take away rights from women also want loser men sent to work camps etc, not given brides | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 04:41 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themBut you don’t need men to solve demographic problems, certainly not all of them Even if you took women’s rights away the question is why would men in power take women’s rights away and then give losers the women. One man can Impregnate a 100 women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 04:31 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themWhose men are getting co-opted by authoritarians and then being sent to the front lines my authoritarians though The men at the bottom don’t win regardless | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 04:28 PM |
| 2 | Men who criticize women for not going after the good guy don’t care about getting a good woman either.Part of being a good guy TO DATE is being attractive and finically stable though Saying those things don’t actually matter, is your own projection and trying to paint women as hypocrites when they aren’t A good guy (to date) is not a guy whose only positive is he doesn’t have obvious moral failings A good guy (to date) is a guy who has posative and attractive attributes..for dating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Gendered expectations for men are only retired in word, not realityThe top 10% of men are needed and the men who lay electrical wire etc are needed, agreed. What about everyone else? Most men aren’t providing an essential service and we don’t need them There’s nothing men inherently provide in relationships which is why more women than ever are opting out of them or identifying as queer Do we need some men, yup, do we need all or even most men nope Wlmen are wanted by society that is the different | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 01:09 PM |
| 1 | Gendered expectations for men are only retired in word, not realityAgain not really You say we need men like we need all 4 billion of them. We don’t In the us the top 10% of people pay 70% of the taxes It isn’t like most men are doing essential jobs either. Plenty of men do nothing beneficial from a societal level But again, the question was about relationships, which as I stated in the first post women don’t have an inherent need for men in relationships either especially men who don’t perform any masculine behaviors (a woman sexual or platonic companion is pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 11:24 AM |
| 2 | Gendered expectations for men are only retired in word, not realitySort of But there are pretty much no cisgender heterosexual societies/ groups whatever that are pushing that the way men and women should function in society or relationships is exactly the same A society and especially a relationship where men and women prefer exactly the same way—doesn’t have a need for both of them Men’s need for women’s is sexual\biological Women’s need for men is more nuanced. If a man does absolutely nothing correlated to male behavior etc, there’s no real reason to pursue… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 06:43 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?It’s filled with women who have access to bad sex, mediocre relaltionships and lackluster romance And even if it was filled with women who had no access to any of those things…they would find other activities and not…you know threaten war | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 02:14 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Why are men so weak that this is even a question? Society is filled with women who didn’t get what they wanted in life; but you would be hard pressed to find any faction of women who think their personal lack of fufillment justifies violence etc. The fact that a non minute group of men think they should be bribed by society to not be destructive should worry us more than the men actually become destructive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:07 PM |
| 3 | Modern Men Are Being Punished for a Past They Didn’t CreateNormal men don't advocate for what your advocating, though It fundamentally isn't true that well socialized men are thinking about random unsuccessful men enough to form an opinion. It's not strictly a male thing, people don't really care about unsuccessful strangers, but men have less in group bias. They dont care that women are judging other men, who aren;t them, said men are probably judging them too. Do you have a lot of female friends and date a lot? I'm guessing not. Because most men who d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 01:51 AM |
| 3 | Modern Men Are Being Punished for a Past They Didn’t CreateBut "men" aren't asking this... loser/unsocialized men are asking this I've never met a well-adjusted, socially adept, successful man in my life who believed most men were good or should be given a chance. Every man in a womens life tells her to be wary of men. Most men don't look at strange other men, especially unsuccessful men and see brothers that should be given a chance. Stop pretending they do or that women should. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 12:27 AM |
| 1 | Modern Men Are Being Punished for a Past They Didn’t CreateNo you couldn't, women's bad doesn't come close to men's bad, especially en masse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 12:20 AM |
| 5 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutSo you clearly don’t know how surrogacy works then If you pay a surrogate 80k and it’s her egg—-she still has unilateral rights over the baby. She can decide she doesn’t want to give up the baby. there’s no laws that allow you to “purchase” a baby or pregnancy for essentially any amount of money because both are considered “priceless” even if you enter into a contract, if the woman changes her mind You can scream eQUaliTY all you want but pregnancy even in and especially in surrogacy is always t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 08:45 PM |
| 7 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutThere is no such thing, legally, as prenatal paternity. It doesn’t exist and you’d have to create a legal category for it One of the reasons it doesn’t exist is because you’d have to prove who the father is and women aren’t even required to know who the father is; and it creates a quagmire of notification, testing and timelines which likely don’t even align with a first trimester abortion cut off Most | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 08:38 PM |
| 9 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutWhy would you be charged 40k and not the full 80k? In the scenario you've outlined you're not sharing the pregnancy, she's doing all of it; so she would get all of the funds. You would each pay 40k if it was to a third party; but she's not a third party. US wages are higher than international wages and women are paid more depending on their egg quality, education level, etc. So if you want men to pay the surrogacy rate it's going to be a lot higher than 80k etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 06:51 PM |
| 2 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked about>/ So are we making men pay for the custody they DON'T take, or the custody they DO take? https://youtu.be/1z-pVZiRjac?t=10 BOTH. and there's no contradiction here. Parents have to pay and raise their children, it's not an either or. If you don't raise your children and leave it up to their own parent to do; it makes sense that you would pay more; but even if you do spend time with your children you still have to spend money on them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 06:44 PM |
| 0 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutIt makes perfect sense and there’s no reason to pretend otherwise The Principle that grants men the rights to a child is the same principle that obliges him responsibility towards that child. You have to pick a default; does a man automatically have rights/responsibilities or does he not Furthermore, there’s no legal standard for paternity prior to birth in unmarried couples because there’s no assumption that the woman even knows who the father is You can’t have these opt in/opt out periods for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 06:37 PM |
| 10 | Paternal Surrender/Financial Abortion would look a lot different in practice if it ever came to fruition than how it's talked aboutIt means that if men don’t have automatic financial obligations it wouldn’t make sense for them to have any automatic parental rights if they wanted to be in the baby’s life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 05:13 PM |
| 4 | Why should men feel sympathy for women’s right to an abortion?Why do grown men get on here and want people to beg them to do things Beg them to care about this Beg them to do that Do you my guy but don’t be so instinctually unmotivated that you don’t have the gumption to form an opinion | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 03:23 AM |
| 1 | Do male victims even exist in the eyes of women?Being mislead and mildly taken advantage of is part of dating Whether someone considers you a victim or a moron depends on the lengths the other person went to/how much they deceived you and the severity of what they deceived you out of Per your example…if a woman knows a guy is interested in her and she strings him along by letting him do things for her I don’t think he’s a victim If a man knows a woman is interested in him and he isnt; do you think she’s a victim if he tries to sleep with her,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 11:33 PM |
| 1 | Question for bluepill: why do all the same rules apply to men who want to be stay-at-home dads?I know plenty of women who take their kids to day care; majority of career women would prefer to do that or just pay a nanny than have a husband who has zero income. If they do have a stay at home dad it's mostly due to circumstances that arise and not a plan from the beginning Anyone with eyes and ears can see just that. Do you have a serious career? Because most women who do prefer to marry men who bring someeeething financial to the relationship. Taking a decade off work is akin to not workin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 01:23 PM |
| 2 | Is inexperience really that unappealing in men?they aren't in a similarly desired small percentage though those men think those women are their looks matched bc they are the same age, but that's not how that works They are desired women so their corresponding match it desired men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 04:57 AM |
| 1 | Question for bluepill: why do all the same rules apply to men who want to be stay-at-home dads?thats fine but that's also rare | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 04:50 AM |
| 3 | Question for bluepill: why do all the same rules apply to men who want to be stay-at-home dads?there's no serious career you can have and plan to take a decade off of work, aka for most women that is akin to a man who never wants to work Women will marry a man who doesnt intend to be a stay a home dad but due to circumstances becomes one, not one who goes into the relationship wanting to take a decade off of work | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 04:49 AM |
| 4 | Question for bluepill: why do all the same rules apply to men who want to be stay-at-home dads?Exactly some women would be okay with their husband cutting back work circumstantially Almost no women will marry a man who never wants to work and wants to be a stay at home dad from the get go | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 06:49 PM |
| 4 | Question for bluepill: why do all the same rules apply to men who want to be stay-at-home dads?There are still very few women who want a stay at home dad from the get go There are some higher performing women who would be okay with a stay at home partner but not many, but there are virtually no women who are successful who knowingly marry a man who has no interest of working ever Most women who don’t want to be a stay at home mom would rather their child go tk day care than be married to a man who never intended to work | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 06:47 PM |
| 1 | I've come to the conclusion that men shouldn't be doing 50% of chores, they should be doing 80-90%you can pay for cleaners, etc, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 01:27 AM |
| 1 | I've come to the conclusion that men shouldn't be doing 50% of chores, they should be doing 80-90%This post is hyberbolic..but I do think there is truth to relationships where the woman has as little responsibilities as possible are likely better Why? Because carefree women have a joie de vie that's difficult to explain and generally makes her more fun/sexy/feminine to be around It's probably where the caption happy life happy wife came from | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 01:26 AM |
| 1 | "Covenant Men" idea to solve the dating crisis... not that people would sign on, but it would workthis was my read too...you could close your eyes and its... advice for women And its not terrible advice, for women, but won't work for most men and sure as hell won't work for unattractive men who aren't desirable in the first place | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 11:00 PM |
| 3 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.You're part right, *people* need to be useful. Women are born with some level of utility and men well...aren't and so they have to develop some | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 10:52 PM |
| 3 | Who cares about men being expected to pay on dates? Why care?Weird logic There are many gender norms; being able to hunt and built a home with your bear hands are also gender norms. Expecting a woman not to have viable underarm hair or allow you to take the lead, is a gender norm Everyone expects some gender norms in heterosexual dating; and few people expect you to follow ALL the gender norms | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 11:54 AM |
| 5 | A woman's "bare minimum" is never just the bare minimumNot really— you’re seeking a relationship if you can find a good one. Part of the definition of a good one is a person who fits your definition of compatibility I went on 100+ dates before meeting my husband because I was looking for someone perfectly compatible with me and I found someone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 05:06 PM |
| 3 | There's No Shame in a Man Wanting a BangmaidMen are demonstrating that the reason they are struggling so much is because….they are socially inept. They don’t know how to talk to women and probably don’t know how to talk to people. As someone who only dated very successful men, and married one, I would never say I’m looking for a man who pays for shit. It’s crude and not how people talk to each other. You guys needs to learn how to converse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 04:56 PM |
| -1 | Men should not be seeking dating advice from womenWhen women tell you platitudes you accuse them of being disingenuous When women tell you the truth, you accuse them of being cruel You need to pick one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 12:53 PM |
| 1 | Men should not be seeking dating advice from womenYour part right, the answer is figure it out.... But the reason you don't tell chad to do it is because Chad figures it out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 01:13 AM |
| 1 | Men should not be seeking dating advice from womenWhat exactly do you want women to take blame for? If you cant find a girlfriend whose fault/problem would that be except your own | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 01:11 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Young women despise young men in the context of relationshipsHate me for what? lol why are men so fragile that they allow themselves to feel hate when someone points out men are not systematically oppressed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 10:40 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Young women despise young men in the context of relationshipsYes. Women were below 50% in stem which are high paying professions. getting parity is not advantaging women, especially when the biggest reason women were a minority in those fields was because they were steered away from them. Women were underrepresented in college/careers because they were barred from participation. Why are men under performing. Are they being kept out, or are they despite having equal access just underperforming. It matters. Additionally most colleges are now easier for men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 09:19 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Young women despise young men in the context of relationshipsIt’s not a thing…as in it’s not a thing governments should address. Men wanting women more than women want men is not women being advantaged by some outside force. I’m not rejecting that it’s more difficult for men to get a date, I’m rejecting the idea that a political party should intervene and help you get dates. You keep saying men are at a disadvantage. Is something MAKING them be at a disadvantage, if so who. Or do men just want women more than women do? In which case, you aren’t being disa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 09:11 PM |
| 11 | CMV: Young women despise young men in the context of relationshipsBecause the issues effecting men are not systematic issues. “Women being advantaged in the dating market” is not a thing. It falls under personal problem and not systematic issue holding men. You speak of the last ten years and that’s precisely the point. There’s no longstanding precedent of discrimination against young men that needs to be remedied Young men are falling behind but no one is keeping them behind | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 05:47 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?I see that you’re arguing in good faith but I don’t understand on what basis you’re disagreeeing with the premise that it was engrained in women culturally that looks shouldn’t matter in men? I’m telling you as a woman—we’re were browbeaten with this until very recently. You can see it yourself if you look at the discussions of the 2000s_how women’s bodies were dissected and objectively not attractive men were allowed to compete for attractive women? You’re claiming as many red pillers claim, th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 11:18 AM |
| 0 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?The red pill thinks women were perfectly happy with their average husbands until feminism came along and convinced them they needed 6-6-6. The opposite is true--men do not understand the degree to which women until very recently have been told to not prioritize looks, to give 'nice guys a chance, etc. Of course women preferred attractive men, but women as a group had been really brow beaten into the idea that looks shouldn't matter and as such women routinely dated men who they were indifferent … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 12:52 AM |
| 6 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Why? I don't see the comparison relationships between individuals aren't institutions they aren't suppose to be equal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 12:39 AM |
| -2 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?When men harm women, they generally actually harm them in this instance women, dating less men they never wanted to date in the first place, isn't harming men... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 12:36 AM |
| 2 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Correct | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 10:20 PM |
| 3 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?As I said before, men for whom consent doesn’t matter, should feel disgusted with themselves | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 07:54 PM |
| 2 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Why don’t you want the woman you end up with to choose you freely? Why does it not disturb you to want to artificially limit her choices for your benefit? My husband slept with tons of beautiful women before he met me. It would never have occurred to me that I should have had the right to limit those choices because they don’t serve me directly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 07:45 PM |
| 5 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Finding and falling in love with someone special has always been rare that is my point Women want that but they have never had that. Women got married at higher rates but it’s not like most women ever had great husbands If love and marriage were so much better in the past young women wouldn’t have so many older women telling them not to rush into marriage and babies, get the their education and to see the world etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 07:19 PM |
| 4 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Two things can be true at once Women don’t like modern dating Women prefer the options they have now than the options they would have had in the past | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 07:15 PM |
| -4 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Does consent not matter to men? You had a better deal in the past BECAUSE women were oppressed. Do you not think it’s creepy that you had a better shot at an attractive woman with a low n count BUT SHE DIDNT WANT you, she has no option but to pick you. Doesn’t that bother you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 07:10 PM |
| -2 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?You sort of agreed with me- you said past generations didn’t value attraction as much as our current one does. That’s the point- the past absolutely valued women’s attractiveness but as a society we told young women not to value attractiveness in men— and it worked. Women dated, married and had sex with men without even really thinking about the man’s attractiveness. That is insane, and it’s sad that we asked women to do that, it’s better now that women are actually asking themselves the questio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 07:02 PM |
| 0 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?I’m not sure anyone is actually pushing for a tenderness society though in terms of dating? People shouldn’t have to conform to gender roles to exist n society but heterosexual dating is quite litterally about gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 06:54 PM |
| 0 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?I’m not sure women don’t realize their league—women understand their are not enough ‘eligible guys’ to go around it’s why women say dating is so hard I think more women believe there’s simply nothing to gain by gaining commitment with average 50/50 shmo. What does the commitment even get you in that case | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 06:50 PM |
| 4 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Relationships aren’t really subject to equality though— the 50% percentile woman is more valuable to the 50 % percentile man than vice versa, and it’s not bc of hypergamy it’s bc of biology I don’t understand how average men are not embarrassed to want women who they know do not want them in return, to partner up with them anyway | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?I’m married I’m not lonely Rachel was attractive—by men’s admission that is the most important things that matters. Ross was not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Angelina is more attractive than Jennifer. Brad dated Jennifer though so objectively she was cute enough to be matched with Brad Pitt It’s so strange when men insist other men are attractive and women don’t get it..who better than to judge the attractiveness of men then women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 03:16 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Why is an attractive person wanting an equally attractive partner ‘retarded’ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 03:05 PM |
| 2 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?I was making a comparative point. Ross attractiveness was not on par with Jennifer Aniston Additionally, he is not attractive even for a non celebrity. If he showed up on the arm of any of my friends, not one person would say ‘ohhh he’s cute’ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 03:04 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Do you think Ross was as attractive as Brad Pitt who she was datting in real life Jennifer Aniston was considered very attractive in the 90s. How many women do you think had posted of Ross, versus Brad Pitt | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?He was chosen because in the 90s it was pushed to women to not care about looks But no, he was not a looksmatch for Jennifer Aniston | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:06 PM |
| -2 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?He was not attractive and has a mediocre job. She was freaking Jennifer Anniston He wasn’t a terrible person but no where near good enough for her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:04 PM |
| 0 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?He’s fine—that’s the point. Jennifer Aniston was married to Brad Pitt in real life. He had multiple marriages, dated other women while she was pregnant and wasn’t nearly attractive enough for her. That he was supportive isn’t enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:00 PM |
| – | They Know What to Say and Who to Say it To. It Depends on Where You Are on Their Value Hierarchy. Selective Preaching, Pandering and None at all.What would you expect/ why is this bad? It’s akin to saying that the person who works at Starbucks cares less about their job than the person who works at Google….if course they do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/26 12:51 AM |
| -1 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?Because the worse thing women do in relationships is to date people they shouldn’t date and tolerate things they shouldn’t -including abusers etc It doesn’t mean women can’t do things wrong it means nothing is as consequential as picking the wrong person. The other mistakes don’t matters as much | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 03:45 PM |
| 1 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"I'd like to add--a lot of men did want to be wanted but understood they would only be wanted if they DID something worth being wanted over. The idea that they want a woman to look at them, and want them on that alone, is 100% a feminine trait | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 05:23 PM |
| 4 | Do you believe women should cater more to men/be less selective?Men want to date in superficial traits yet are somehow upset that women want the same Men’s desire for youth and beauty is superficial too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 05:45 PM |
| 5 | When feminist women deny blatant redpill truths, like being a nice person alone won’t get you laid. It really pulls into question the integrity of what ALL women say. As if women are prepared to lie just to uphold their ideological beliefs.Sighhh No one lied to you. The platitude that if you’re nice you can find SOMEONE is true You if you are nice and put in effort can find A woman who will be fine with you No one said the woman would be pretty or fit or any of the characteristics that you’d prefer. If you’re a guy that women don’t really like like that women don’t find particularly attractive If you are nice enough and put forth enough effort you can find a woman, who men don’t particularly like and who men don’t find particularl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 01:16 AM |
| -3 | Most Lesbian or Bisexual women do NOT have more game than straight men. It is simply easier as a girl to date.What an unmasculine thing to say | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 12:17 AM |
| -3 | Most Lesbian or Bisexual women do NOT have more game than straight men. It is simply easier as a girl to date.Women who date men want something fundamentally different than women who date women. Which is masculinity and a lot of men simply aren’t good at that anymore | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 06:30 PM |
| 8 | What do abusive men bring to the table?I dunno how do you deal with other aspects of life? Most women, even beautiful young women, know that there are probably very shitty women who have been treated better than them by someone at some point in life. It doesn’t really register. Why are you expecting each part of your life to be fair? It’s not a reasonable expectation It doesn’t really surprise me that criminal women esp criminal women who are prettier, more charismatic, more fun than me etc would have attracted men. Those are attract… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 03:15 PM |
| 7 | Women are being scammed by the empowerment industry harder than men are by red pill, and it's not even closeWhy would you expect women to have empathy and date men they don’t like But you can’t expect to have empathy for women understand a great many of them are nothing us and accept being alone How can you say women lack empathy and then threaten women with collapse if men don’t get what they want Maybe men should lower their expectations of life to not include a romantic partner | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 12:58 PM |
| 2 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"Why wouldn’t women have difference experiences and desires wjtj different men though I think the woman you’re conversing with is being obtuse. Obviously women treat men they like more differently and better and often attractive men are more likable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 03:54 AM |
| 0 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"They can ask the same there’s just no reason to think they would get it The reason men do that is because women are more sought after then men. Unless the man is a sought after man it’s not a particularly reasonable expectation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 03:39 AM |
| -5 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"I said rolling out all the stops not desiring her. Wine and dining her, princess treatment etc. that is all the stop. Do you think it’s as unfair for men to try to marry women who they aren’t rolling out all the stops for as it is for women to try to marry men who they don’t overly desire | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 12:48 AM |
| – | What are men supposed to like about women?Here’s the thing about women. We’re not trying to sell you because we sdont care if you buy If you don’t like women then…just like them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 12:32 AM |
| -4 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"Ok? I didn’t say they didn’t desire their above average partners that way. People desire desirable people. It’s not surprising that women desired attractive men; what’s more surprising is that men who aren’t particularly desirable would expect to be desired Do you think men who aren’t going to roll out the stops for a woman shouldn’t pursue them for sex or marriage. Do you think a man for instance who doesn’t intend to wine and dine and spoil with complements and treat like a queen, should not t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 12:26 AM |
| – | How do you and your spouse divide expenses in today’s economy?It’s not really 50/50 if her parents help you financially. It means she’s contributing a lot more than you are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 12:59 PM |
| 5 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"Is the man in questionable actually desirable? It’s a reasonable expectation if he is. But if you aren’t desirable why is it a reasonable expectation for you to find someone who sees you in a way you aren’t | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 12:45 PM |
| 5 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"This is a great example—- but its not a gotcha Because Yes many women are fine if men act romantic even if they don’t feel romantic. Women care about the behavior they aren’t splitting hairs over a man who acts chivalrous and a man who feels chivalrous Desire is a feeling not an action. If you want women to feel something you have to inspire the feeling If you want women to do an action( sex whatever) despite how they are feeling then say that But that’s not desire that’s something else | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 12:44 PM |
| 10 | Is an average woman dating an average man considered "settling?"Sure but the question remains Women don’t “desire” their average partners like that. They just don’t. So what do men want women to do Do they want them to pretend or act ravenous anyway? Is this just an unrealistic expectation that men have? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 10:31 AM |
| 13 | Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands?How do you..with presumably a straight face identify that allowing men to enslave women through forced marriage, would save the marriage rate Right up there is a solution to the male loneliness epidemic is to kill all the unattractive men. Problem solved! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 08:11 PM |
| – | I noticed that many people are performative progressivesYea being a bi fem boy is definitely a niche Why is it reasonable to want a conventionally attractive woman when you aren’t conventionally attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 06:11 PM |
| – | I noticed that many people are performative progressivesWhy would you expect the woman who be beautiful when the men aren’t handsome? No shit if you’re a niche not attractive tj a majority of the mainstream person, you have to go after niche not attractive people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 11:51 AM |
| – | Why should women obey average men?Dating someone with potential versus putting the work to invest in someone without clear signs of potential is not the same thing Most women will date a med student; but she isn’t fundamentally investing in him or making him into something he’s doing that himself Plenty of women will wait for you to realize you’re full potential so long as you are driving yourself there | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 03:59 PM |
| – | Why should women obey average men?This just shows how manipulative the red pill is It’s illogical to just invest in making someone be something when you could just invest the same efforts in yourself and ‘make yourself into that person Why would men ever expect a woman to build them—it’s an illogical thing to do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:20 PM |
| -1 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?They are only advantaging women if they are trying ti have more women in those fields than men Trying to get more women into stem when women are under represented in stem is not advantaging women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 02:40 PM |
| 0 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?If white people have 95% of the spots because black people were systemically oppressed for centuries. It is inaccurate to say the system advances black ppl bc there are a few programs that help black people get parity Men are not entitled to all the stem spots etc programs that strive to get some women in stem does not mean the system advantages women over men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 12:25 PM |
| 4 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?Not going to answer your questions if you continue to dodge mine | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 11:49 PM |
| 0 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?Programs that aid in equity are not giving women an advantage over men; and it’s disendenuous to pretend otherwise To use your stem example women are under represented in stem and there are just programs that help them reach parity. If what you said was true and women were advantaged in stem over men, women would make up over 50% of stem grads but they don’t. Women are underrepresented in stem. Striving for gender parity is not ‘advancing’ them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 10:33 PM |
| 9 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?Why did you answer my question with a question instead of answering it? Pregnancy is dangerous and horrible. Most women including mothers understand what, why do you think it’s not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 07:03 PM |
| 11 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?What has the complication? I doubt it was implying that the complication was common only that it’s a RISK. Do you believe most women experience no complications or issues with pregnancy. Everything in a woman’s body is exactly the same as before? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 05:26 PM |
| 4 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?Yes- that’s what I’m saying It goes. Good relationship with a partner you want > no relationship > relationship with someone who doesn’t have what you’re looking for I’m absolutely saying most women would prefer to be single than be with someone who checks 40/60 boxes aka only has 66% of what you want Your analogy doesn’t really make sense but if you most women can’t afford to buy the house they want it makes sense to rent a cute one bedroom in a desirable location…which by the way women can do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 05:24 PM |
| 0 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?We don’t advantage women in those things but we do give them an equal opportunity Universities are easier to get into a a man because women are over 50% of the matriculates That again, is the point. Women like men who are genuinely more capable not though that have been propped up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 05:15 PM |
| 6 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?Interesting perspective Previous generations of men seemed to understand on some level they weren't desirable to women but that women were expected to chose them anyway. Most men didn't expect their wives to find them particularly attractive. On one hand it'd a huge positive that men want to only have sexual and romanic relationships with women who genuinely desire them, as oppose to past generations of men who didn't think that much about consent and wanted a yes for any reason they could get. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 04:17 PM |
| 14 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?Its not really the same because being single is a perfectly reasonable option which doesn't fundamentally make your life worse, while being homeless obviously does | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 04:12 PM |
| 7 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?But but the question remains; is that brainwashing or an accurate accounting of reality Pregnancy is objectively terrible for women. I doubt women use other have back to back pregnancies 100 years ago bc they wanted to do it; rather it was just expected of them Its also hard to argue that rape culture exists.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 04:11 PM |
| 5 | Do you think women are partnering with men less because they are being influenced/brainwashed my feminism now. Or do you think the reason women overwhelmingly partnered with men in the past was because they were influenced/brainwashed by traditional culture?Part of hypergamy is wanting someone who is genuinely more successful than you. If men were only more successful than women because women didn't have the opportunities, that doesn't really count A man's best needs to be better than the woman's best for it to count | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 04:08 PM |
| 2 | Do abusive men have good personalities?Barack Obama | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 01:47 PM |
| – | The idea that men enjoy the chase is completely made up.What makes you think it’s unintentional. The red pill tries to package and sensationalize pretty basic realities and tries to make them seem eventful It’s pretty obvious that the men complaining that they don’t want to court women are the kinda of men women generally don’t like as much | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 10:52 PM |
| – | Women don't really view men as human beings in romantic contextsWomen do what with other women find them attractive ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 08:01 PM |
| 3 | Society is 'equal' everywhere except the expensive, high-risk part where men have to auditionDo you want her to have sex with you and have your baby? Because those are the traditional aspects of marriage women upheld and still do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 06:22 PM |
| – | The idea that men enjoy the chase is completely made up.The men women like, like the chase Which is sort of the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 06:02 PM |
| – | Women don't really view men as human beings in romantic contextsOk? But women aren’t men, they are women. It’s very strange and frankly…maladjusted that so many grown men allow themselves to be confused by the fact that women are different than them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 05:30 PM |
| – | Women don't really view men as human beings in romantic contextsI didn’t claim it was a disability; I stated that something being controllable or not isn’t relevant to whether it is a reasonable standard | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 12:05 PM |
| 2 | Women don't really view men as human beings in romantic contextsWhy would it matter if something is under your control or not Most people wouldn’t want to date a severely disabled person, that the disability isn’t their ‘fault’ doesn’t change anything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 01:59 AM |
| 3 | Women don't really view men as human beings in romantic contextsMen are genuinely attracted to a pile of dirty clothes Women don’t measure men being attracted to her as some end all be all because men’s attraction is handed out like candy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 01:58 AM |
| 8 | Women don't really view men as human beings in romantic contextsMen look for equally practical things I can’t for to life of my understand why grown adult men don’t understand the practicality of choosing a long term partner | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 01:56 AM |
| 4 | Women don't really view men as human beings in romantic contextsMen loose attraction to women who have body hair or smell even though those are human things | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 01:52 AM |
| 3 | Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates ItHow is it irrelevant if both gender expects the other to uphold certain roles Where is the unfairness there | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 09:25 PM |
| 0 | Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates ItThe point is men expect it too. Men don’t date women who aren’t feminine and don’t preform any feminine gender roles. The same is true for women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 09:19 PM |
| 5 | Society is Addicted to Male Ambition and Productivity — While Systematically Destroying Every Incentive That Creates ItMen dont uphold more of the contract that she does How many men are clamoring to date bald shapeless women with masculine tendencies who don’t want to have sex? Men date women because they do ‘womanly things’ It follows that women would date men because they have masculine attributes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 06:27 PM |
| -1 | If you need to build or raise her interest she doesn’t like youWhy are you expecting women who dont know anything about you to just 'be in to you' without you putting in any effort Unless you're objectively remarkably, the better question is why would you expect someone to just be in to you, when you haven't given them any reason to be? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 11:25 PM |
| 1 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.Men are not attacked for observing That women prioritize different things at different ages based on what they are looking for They are attacked for pretending it’s some conspiracy and said women don’t love their husbands | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 02:17 AM |
| 1 | Where are all the straight women!?Because most women who sleep with men aren’t particularly attracted to them either Wlmen are just use to physically doing things with people who don’t partially arouse them, which is why many experiment with women despite not being into women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 01:20 AM |
| 7 | Where are all the straight women!?Why bother with having sec with a man if the woman is responsible for her own orgasm? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 01:14 AM |
| 1 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.Society isn’t ’straight’ about anything because that’s not how society works No one sits women down and says your husband would probably prefer Sydney Sweeney than you, doesn’t mean society is lying to you, it means you should probably learn how to figure things out on your own | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 01:10 AM |
| 1 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.No one from childhood as promised you desire Love maybe but not desire No one told you stories that a woman was going to want to rip your clothes off, they told you you could find someone to care about you, which by the way you can | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 01:09 AM |
| 0 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.How does that prove your point. Most sitcoms portray wives as having completely unfulfilled uninteresting lives No shows showcase married couples as madly in love with each other generally speaking Just two people who are married to fine Also- most shows are not about making a man take responsibility for a single mother | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 03:04 PM |
| 1 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.What you’re describing is only relevant to men who are autistic Most typical adults don’t need every dynamic spelled out for them and understand that no one would accept any overly blunt and krassly presented ideal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 01:32 PM |
| 1 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.Not really the same…because men are the ones clamoring for relationships not women If the men don’t want relationships and prefer to be single, I absolutely understand but it’s unclear why average men thought they would ever meet someone truly crazy for desire for them in the first place | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 01:29 PM |
| 3 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.Globally people live on an average of like a dollar a day. The global average would mean just as much in terms of dating/ partnering | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 01:26 PM |
| 1 | Question for men: if you were a woman, would you genuinely be attracted to a man who gets zero attention from women?Not really.. part of having a good personality is often finding ways yourself to market or show yourself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 10:48 PM |
| 1 | The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men.Again, women don’t care what men prefer wlmen care what men do. I couldn’t have cared less if my husband preferred to marry a woman in his 20s than me a woman in his 30s, I care that he actually married me, a 30 something woman. Men, resoundingly marry women their same age. Men who are single in their thirties marry women who are also in their thirties. This is especially true for the men women actually want. Who cares if Joe the Plummer wants to get married at 25 if you want a corporate lawyer … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 02:04 PM |
| 1 | The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men.> An average 5/10 woman who looks 20 years old is much more attractive to men than even a 7/10 woman who looks 30. By the time that 7/10 woman starts to look 35 years old she becomes even less attractive than a woman who is 20 years old with even a 4/10 face. A 4/10 is borderline ugly and a 7/10 face is nearly modelesque. That’s how big of a difference it makes. This isn't true. And by that I dont men men dont think this way, mayyyybe they do, I mean they don't *act* this way and women only care… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 12:21 AM |
| 2 | The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men.The point is there weren’t enough of the men she wanted anyway Even if she went for that man as a virgin day 1 there aren’t enough male catches to go around She would have ended up settling anyway, thus there’s no reason to not date around first and then settle | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 08:30 PM |
| 2 | The wall isn't real. It's a psyop that benefits mediocre men.The wall doesn’t exist by OUTCOME which is all women care about It doesn’t matter if men were to line you up at 25 and you at 35 or Megan fox now and the and prefer the younger version in some theoretically way It matters what men do who they marry and commit too, and women have as good a shot of that at virtually any age Moreover and most importantly women often get more/better men as they age; Megan foxs first husband was completely average- her being young and hot didn’t actually benefit her … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 08:24 PM |
| 0 | Orgasm gap is not caused by men, its caused by women because they don’t close the gap of effort gapEhh not really this is mostly an age thing. Older generations this was true but I know zero women who don’t expect head and many won’t offer it /do it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careSo if ugly guys can attract women…then clearly looks aren’t the end all be all of attraction since, plenty of ugly prisoners/men in general have women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/26 03:53 PM |
| 1 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careMost of the men in jail have girlfriends and yet most men in jail aren’t hot. Criminals are not particularly attractive so clearly being attractive isn’t the end all be all with women either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/26 11:31 AM |
| 1 | The bare minimum is fine. Women just romanticize codependency and anxious attachmentYou have it opposite the propaganda was telling women they needed to have a man Now that it’s truly optional you’re seeing behavior closer to what women want to do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 04:52 PM |
| 4 | Feminists expect male "allies", but have no interest in solving male-specific issues or even recognizing themYou’re ignoring relationship dynamics between the sexes Damsel is distress is a trope because men like saving women. One of the ways young women are taught to flirt with men is to ask their help with things because this is more likely to get the man to like you There is no inverse damsel in distress. Women generally get the ick from a man who needs saving/ perceive him as a danger Women are taught from an early age that if a man asks for your help in public to RUN because he is probably trying t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 04:23 PM |
| 1 | The manospheres biggest lieAgain, yes iI agree that women are helping each other inflate/raise their standards This is the crux of the issue that a few men are missing Men were previously a necessity: and if you need something you HAVE to pick one of your options and make the best of it. This is what women did for most of history and what they still do in most soceities Men are previously an accessory, they are like any other optional thing. So McDonalds is fine but it's not as good as a Michelin star meal and If you don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 02:05 PM |
| 0 | The manospheres biggest lieHi - abolsutely agree with most men that womens standards have increased Where I disagree with is that most men assume women were completely happy with their relationships in the past and thus the new elevated standards are just shallow standards keeping women from a partner they would be otherwise happy with. Women use to be face immense social pressure in being single so the standards were just pick a man any way. The standards are higher now because the standards were too low I dont think wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 10:04 PM |
| 2 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careThe flip side question has a shorter answer what do most men offer that makes being in a relationship with them better than being alone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 10:02 PM |
| 1 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careIgnoring for a minute that men with good character are loyal and dependable are rare. I'm not sure why you view someone whose only positive traits are ' dependable adjacent' as a good partner or a partner who makes your life better in anyway. My 70 year old aunt is dependable with good character, yet she's not relationship material for most people. Being attracting having rizz etc are absolutely part of what makes you eligible | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't carePick a domain to be very good at-preferably a few domains if you can. Answer the question honestly ---what is better about being with me than being alone or with your friends. When individual men can answer that and confidently know what the answers are they won't have trouble finding a relationship - | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Women have very little to gain from heterosexual sex & relationships and men don't careIf you dont take your wife to Paris does that mean she can go with someone else? Taking your wife to Paris isnt essential but I can still see the problem if another man takes her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Women will inevitably change after kids, if you can't understand this just don't have kidsI don’t think women believe the men are inherently childless or unreasonable I think women understand just believe there needs to be time and space for romance for women to feel romantic If a woman’s life is all taking care of kids and working her mental space is not going to be one of surviving and trying to get through the day not sexy time Men even good men need to free up a woman’s time by taking on enough responsibilities whether they are childcare financial whatever to give the woman enoug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 09:14 PM |
| 14 | The manospheres biggest lieI think most women would prefer a partner if they could find an ideal one But there aren't enough ideal partners to go around so given the options available they would rather be single | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:24 PM |
| 11 | Why do some feminists, especially on Reddit, so vehemently deny they don't hate men but do nothing to stop and even justify hateful comments of men in their subreddits?Why do so many men want women to protect them. It’s….odd | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Why do some women, especially on Reddit, instantly assume that men who simply vent about dating struggles are entitled to a relationship?Strange men are generally dangerous to women /viewed with skepticism The reason women are more likely to emphasize with strange women is because they are less likly to do us harm The first rule women learn from their fathers/ trusted men is that men don’t seek help from random women, so if a man is trying to get your help he’s probably got something up his sleeve (think Ted bundy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 03:47 PM |
| 3 | There are 3 genders in dating: High-value men (HVM), Women, and Low-value men (LVM).... And it seems like the HVMs, and LVMs have more practical approaches than Women.Because women’s issues are different than men’s Women’s issue in dating are that there are not enough quality men to go around. As a woman you could look max or femme max or education max or youth max or whatever , it doesn’t matter there aren’t enough men. So there’s less focus on self improvement and more focus on vetting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 04:23 AM |
| 2 | Do you think biological realities playing into heterosexuality is a topic that leftists/feminists are ready to discuss?Yes more people would see the woman as the victim them the man? Why do you think that is and why do you think it should be different if you assume it should be different? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 05:07 PM |
| – | If you aren't exceptional, dont demand exceptional results.No one said ugly poor men were successful with women in general—ugly poor men can get ugly poor women with effort. That is all anyone has ever claimed not that an ugly poor man is on the same footing with a hot rich man Of course there are things in life that hold you back—the point is most people have those things. There are more people whose parents didn’t give them money than people whose parents did. Of course it’s easier to be successful with rich parents. No one is ever claiming otherwise … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 10:26 PM |
| – | If you aren't exceptional, dont demand exceptional results.Yea because not wanting to sleep with ugly prople doesn’t make you shallow Women didn’t assume men are so socially inept as to not know that you need to be a base level of attractive for someone to want a romantic relationship with you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 08:12 PM |
| – | If you aren't exceptional, dont demand exceptional results.If you go onto any thread where men are struggling the reason they can’t get a single solitary woman interested in them IS because of their personality, effort etc. the reason we know it’s not just looks is because ugly poor men have women all the time. Men aren’t struggling to get any girls at all because of their looks but it shouldn’t be surprising that if you a cute girl you also have to be cute Not really because both things are true. Of course it’s easier to buy a house if you’re generatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 08:10 PM |
| – | If you aren't exceptional, dont demand exceptional results.It’s only considered a lot here bc most men here struggle to get laid Most 23 year old men who can be are pretty slutty; thus to them a girl whose knot slept with 4 guys is super low | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 05:42 PM |
| – | If you aren't exceptional, dont demand exceptional results.Ok but why is this surprising to men? Gorgeous women get away with a lot more than gorgeous women yet you can’t find women making incessant posts asking shocked that …pretty women play by different rules…like duh…how did you make it to adulthood without knowing this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 05:30 PM |
| – | If you aren't exceptional, dont demand exceptional results.Blue pill isn’t lying to you Your personality is hurting YOUR chances and improving your personality and effort would help YOU. That is not remotely the same as saying everyone who succeeds has a great personality. It is sound advice to tell someone who isn’t good looking or special in anyway to maximize their personality for the best impact for them Saying it’s your looks holding you back is as disengeous as saying not being bill gates son is holding you back from home ownership. No one is clai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 05:19 PM |
| – | If you aren't exceptional, dont demand exceptional results.Exactly Very few women would be surprised that a gorgeous low life woman has no trouble having sex and relationships with men Why exactly are men so surprised by Jeremy Meeks? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 05:13 PM |
| – | Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATIONDepends on the person but generally most ‘princess treatment things’ qualify as not the bare minimum | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 04:57 PM |
| – | Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATIONWhy do you think not being attractive enough shouldn’t be a disqualifying characteristic? Men complain that women partner with men they don’t have genuine desire for and then complain that women want to wait for men they have genuine desire for lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 04:52 PM |
| – | Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATIONIf those women aren’t expected to pretty girl treatment Why do so many men get upset that they don’t get hot guy treatment While whole of men online are raging bc they aren’t treated like attractive men when they aren’t | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 04:46 PM |
| – | Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATIONYea this is where men are struggling to understand women To a normal woman, A man who has no good qualities but merely isn’t a wife beater isnt “better” than a man who is They are both go in the no pile and women don’t waste their time and energy trying to rank one above the other, when both are bad options | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 04:36 PM |
| – | Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATIONWomen’s bodies carry fat in much better ways then men’s do It’s a lot easier for a well proportioned fat woman to be attractive than it is for a man Women seek treatment for mental illness at higher rates then men, it doesn’t mean women are more mentally ill Lastly, it doesn’t really matter if people want men to be providers when men are de facto not providing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 04:29 PM |
| – | Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATIONMen want marriage and children more because it’s a better deal for them Women would want more children too if men had to bear them Men wanting children that their partners gave to bear while also not wanting to provide financially for their children -so the women end of doing both the traditionally feminine and masculine role. Of course men want that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 04:27 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.Why do you think women have so many not bad options to choose from Men who are catches get take fast. It’s not like there are tons of single great available guys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 10:30 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.Yes it is… most men on this sub are neither charismatic attractive NOR particularly noble or virtuous There aren’t a lot of good options | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 10:28 PM |
| 2 | Why aren't more women happy that men are analyzing human attraction and trying to figure out women?Depends What ‘scandalous behavior’ are you talking about? Can you provide some examples? And yes lol..yes they do. When I was single I absolutely expected that many or most of the men I was dating were capable of lying, cheating, etc to get sex. That’s what dating is, it’s screening people and it’s a relatively default characteristic that young men will be dishonest to get laid. I don’t remember being as unable to handle it though as so many men seem unable to handle the things women do Women ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 09:09 PM |
| 3 | Why aren't more women happy that men are analyzing human attraction and trying to figure out women?Because the constant discussion is evidence of social maladjustment and inability to just figure things out normally Women learn men through trial and error, heartbreak and frankly just figuring shit out The men who demand a formula to engage with women are again typically frankly maladjusted in some way because while there are things women generally like there is no set formula Additionally, men seem to pathologize women’s behavior that isn’t particularly scandalous Normal women can handle the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 02:51 PM |
| 1 | I don't understand redpill for woman.I do understand the philosophy--I mostly just find it interesting that the conservative/red pill narrative is actually for women to essentially lead their men but from behind, and that isn't seen in your circles as a paradoxical form of leadership I think most of what makes men attractive to women is interestingly enough men who just know how to be attractive to women--to your point about egalitarianism killing your relationship, in that scenario I would expect and frankly have seen men who know… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 11:53 PM |
| 1 | I don't understand redpill for woman.Sure, and I do understand the distinction between how you evaluate a potential partner or deal with a boyfriend versus if you have already picked your husband I was more so pointing out the simularities between rpw and feminist married women; that many women want to marry someone who takes the lead and that is interestingly enough seen in multiple groups of women what differs between the two groups is how you deal with it; I would personally never advice a woman to try to make her man anything b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 08:39 PM |
| 1 | I don't understand redpill for woman.> RPW was for high dominance women trying to bid their husbands into taking initiative / being a leader / being more dominant, because that's what they were attracted to and what they respected. But they were going the wrong way about it, essentially nagging and brow beating him. RPW used the red pill evo-psych theory to create a sort of guideline on how to take a step back, be more traditionally feminine, and allow their husbands to step into the role himself Why not just find men who are natur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value toowomen didn't use to have standard because soceity made them couple with men regardless of whether they wanted to or not. Women being allowed to have standards is a new thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value toono its not fair to give both animals the same thing if it means one of them starve. If you want it to count as giving them food, you need to give them both something they will eat ;?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooEssentially you’re trying to argue that men wanting less is a virtue of men or a more reasonable/posative attribute of men. The implication being that men are more reasonable than women, and that women’s higher expectations of men thus unfair and less reasonable My point is that ment don’t want less because they are more reasonable or because they are more virtuous or whatever. Men just happen to want less. Women just happen to offer men what they want—it’s really luck/curcumstance It isn’t men’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 11:57 AM |
| 2 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooAnd what is the alternative, that neither men or women put forth effort and men partner up with women and he gets something he wants (tangible value) and she gets nothing she wants. Why would that be more fair than the current situation? Being mad at other people that you dont naturally have tangible value is insane. even if you were going to be mad, which isnt even the healthiest emotion you could have btw why would you be mad at women and not nature or yourself. It isn't womens fault that men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 01:41 AM |
| 3 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooWhat is the meaning of the difference you are trying to highlight? Even if a whole group has it/doesn’t have it what does that change | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 10:46 PM |
| 0 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooDepriving someone of equality is not a neutral situation If you are depriving someone something’s owed to them, and you stop depriving them , you don’t get credit for improving their situation and they needn’t be grateful to you Why would you expect people to be grateful to you when you stop depriving them of human rights | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 10:43 PM |
| 3 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooWhat you’re referring to…is equality for women Why would you expect women to be grateful for equality or treat men differently (when men already have equality Your bias is showing because you insinuate women should act grateful to men for giving them the equal rights and access they always should of had, and no they shouldn’t | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooAgain if society wants the mindset of western women to change all it needs to do is put its money where its mouth is and incentivize the change | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooThe point is that the “real love” you claim women don’t have for men, men ALSO don’t have for women They like when women provide value in their life’s- that isn’t more transaction than women wanting men to have value in their lives. They are equal desires but men decided that what women want is transactional but what men want is ‘real love’ and that’s an insane take | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 05:46 PM |
| 7 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooYes they do blame women They blame women as seeing only ‘Chad’ as attractive as if women’s standards are too high and most men SHOULD be seen as attractive When it’s very possible only a small amount of men are genuinely attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 02:47 PM |
| 7 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooWhy does it matter? Some people naturally ace the test without having to study. Others need to cram for hours Some people are naturally fit some people need tk spend hours in the gym, watch everything they eat etc If you aren’t naturally gifted, blessed whatever, you have to work harder, why is that hard for people to grasp | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 02:41 PM |
| 4 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooValue is stackable and no where did I say sex (or any value really) functions as stand alone value People want multiple valuable characteristics not just one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 02:35 PM |
| 4 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooWhy would men place the ‘blame’ on women not finding them desirable and not place the ‘blame on themselves for not being desirable? That is what doesn’t make sense If I want men to think I’m brilliant; how do I claim that men tk provide that desire to me are valuable when they have no reason to feel that way about me Shouldn’t I have to be smart if I want people to think I’m smart | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 01:13 PM |
| 9 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooOnly men think that way. There are zero women who think a man wanting access to her vagina are him wanting/valuing her. He's wanting to use her for a resource she possess not unlike material or any other kind of resources a person can posses | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 01:55 AM |
| – | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value toolol you are valuable in the eyes of god sort of way. That is not the same as being sexually valuable to the opposite sex, don't pretend to not know the difference | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 12:49 AM |
| 5 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooHope I deliver for you ladies ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 12:38 AM |
| 25 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooI actually do realize or rather, the red pill is enforcing my claim, without realizing it Women are inherently valuable to the opposite sex in a way that men are not The red pill agrees with this but instead of saying so, it tries to blame women for not seeing regular men as valuable when they know regular men are not de facto as valuable as women are in sexual attraction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 12:29 AM |
| 3 | Men (and society) want tangible value from women but are mad that women want tangible value tooThis is an important comment because it reflects how a lot of men feel. Youre essentially jealous of women and mad that (most men) aren't born with anything of value You think because we're born with a valuable thing they should give you the valuable thing for nothing. That isnt how value works It isnt about effort its about outcome. If she has something of value you have to offer her something of value, it can be value you were born with, value you worked hard for, value you grew into, it doesn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 11:58 PM |
| 2 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenWhy are men scandalized or surprised that different men get different versions of desire? that seems to be the issue not the status quo or blue pill or anything else? The pattern that you are taking credit for noticing is something that should be so obvious it doesn't even warrent a discussion. Why would you expect beeng boring and nice to arouse women? When men talk about these patterns, as if these patterns aren't obvious and aren't expected, people often reframe if as entitlement because men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 04:31 PM |
| 4 | Women keep reframing RP observations as men trying to control womenYou conflate preference with reality Women absolutely PREFER tall rich charismatic attractive interesting men. Those men will absolutely have a far easier time getting what they deem as a quality partner and a partner who deeply desires them However non rich non charactmatic not tall not attractive men get chosen ALL the time. That is what women are pointing out. You are not doomed as a man if you aren't those things, you just aren't preferred. The real issue is that men are upset that regular m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 04:20 PM |
| 8 | It would be easier to focus on the type of women you want rather than getting upset you cant succeed with most women.Eh as an adult-if you realize you want something that is incredibly impractical for you to get it makes the most sense to stop vocalizing and complaining about something that just isnt going to happen If it bothers you to pay for dates for women your only two options are to: get over it and pay for dates anyway because it helps you increase the likelihood of getting something you want decide not to pay for dates and accept the consequences that you will simply have less dates | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 06:26 PM |
| – | Women don’t owe it to society to raise birth ratesIf men’s nature is to oppress women and deny them of equal opportunities then men are naturally morally repugnant Everyone is unrestricted and to think that women should be compelled to choose you And then pretend you have intellectual high ground is insane | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 12:44 AM |
| – | Women don’t owe it to society to raise birth ratesSo pay women to have children if it’s not about y curtailing women’s freedoms If governments offered $100,000 cash tk any woman who had a baby, I bet the birthrate would improve | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/26 07:33 PM |
| – | Women don’t owe it to society to raise birth ratesI wonder genuinely how men can type things like this and not immediately see themselves as monsters Imagining thinking Women having to equal pay and can now choose their partners is a roadblock Just wow | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/26 07:31 PM |
| 4 | Do you understand what men mean when men say that the risk is not worth the reward, in reference to women today, and approaching women, and being in relationships with women?Good men are intrinsically motivated, they are hardworking in the face of adversity, and perhaps more importantly they aren't struggling with women The good men haven't dropped out at all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/26 06:08 PM |
| 19 | Society made it so that women can earn equal to men and now women can no longer find someone who earns more than them. Women today have been so masculinized that they don't even find men attractive.Or he could be a big boy and use his powers of observations to figure it out It’s not up to women to dole out work to men when they have eyes and ears | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/26 12:47 PM |
| 25 | Society made it so that women can earn equal to men and now women can no longer find someone who earns more than them. Women today have been so masculinized that they don't even find men attractive.What does it matter if they are doing more work than their fathers? It matters if they are doing “enough” work Men use to do little to no childcare, it’s absurd to think women should be grateful just because it’s improved if it hasn’t hit parity Men need to do equal work not merely more work than their fathers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/26 11:07 AM |
| 0 | Romantic relationships are getting betterWouldn’t there always be some unhappy people and some happy people though Even if the marriage rates were higher, you’d have a significant amount of people who were unhappy because they didn’t like their partner/ didn’t want to be married There’s quite literally no way to make everyone happy, the best solution is to let people picks so they have the maximum likkihood about being happy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 11:21 AM |
| 0 | Romantic relationships are getting betterSingleness is not what society is dysfunctional I dont understand how you are arguing against peoples freedom to choose to be single if they dont find someone compatible No one has kids to keep the birthrate from dropping nor should it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Romantic relationships are getting betterThat is my point It is not that single people are irredeemable and couldn't possibly be happy with anyone. It is that in the absence of the right person, if they happened to be in a relationship with just anyone, they would be unhappy and their relationship wouldnt be good Right now people who are single are single because they can't find a relationship with a suitable right/partner. This is good. Being in a relationship with just anybody is a bad relationship, a relationship is only good when i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 09:50 PM |
| 0 | Romantic relationships are getting betterGood to who? Not the people in them or they wouldnt be ending them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Romantic relationships are getting betterIt means the relationships occurring are good There's no reason to believe the people unable to get into relationships would be happy in them. The sheer reality that they can't find willing partners indicates that they/their partner wouldnt be happy together | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 09:31 PM |
| 0 | Romantic relationships are getting betterBad relationships end that's entirely the point... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Romantic relationships are getting betterIt means the single people who are complaining they aren't in relationships *wouldnt be in happy relationships anyway Truly happy and good relationships have always been a minority Now instead of more people being in mediocre relations less people are in relationships BUT they are better Why are people acting like that is bad? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 09:19 PM |
| -5 | If women have full agency in modern dating and equal power, why are negative dating outcomes usually framed as men failing women rather than women making poor choices?On what basis do you think most men are good loyal, supportive, contributing, non sexist partners | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 07:12 PM |
| -1 | Dating for straight men is entirely TOO MUCH WORKThe single rates are high because men are rejecting men not because men are making the decision to stop dating women You can complain all you want. But then you can't get mad at the complaints women have against men. The complaints against men are extremely valid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 08:04 AM |
| -3 | Dating for straight men is entirely TOO MUCH WORKOk so if its that's important to you its work the work, why is that controversial | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 07:59 AM |
| -8 | Dating for straight men is entirely TOO MUCH WORKIf women are too difficult why not stop dating them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 02:57 AM |
| 19 | Age gap relationships: Most people against them are being disingenuousYou clearly don’t understand young women lol twenty something year old women often don’t view themselves as “adult-adults” they view themselves as young adults and find the interest of older men creepy Do you think consumer protection laws shouldn’t exist because after all they must mean the consumer is too immature to protect itself from shady business practices. Of course not The reason that age gaps get push back is because in general * there is no reason for women to participate in them. The… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 02:00 PM |
| 32 | Age gap relationships: Most people against them are being disingenuousThe biggest opposition to age gap relationships is coming from young women and young people themselves Young women increasingly dont want to date anyone more than 2+ years older than them, and that’s their choice Women especially young women have a lot of dating options and there simply isn’t any compelling reason to date someone older unless they are exceptional in some way aka money etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 12:41 PM |
| 3 | A lot of feminist identifying women are red-pillers when it comes to male gender roles.Ok. Fat people, ugly people, uncharasmstic people aren’t treated as well socially as thin, beautiful, charming people Still not a human rights issue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 12:37 PM |
| 2 | A lot of feminist identifying women are red-pillers when it comes to male gender roles.Most people don’t kill themselves if they aren’t treated like chad and Stacie so no it doesn’t on aggregate And in general choosing to ‘self delete’ because people don’t give you what you want is not a human rights issue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 07:44 AM |
| 5 | A lot of feminist identifying women are red-pillers when it comes to male gender roles.But thats everything? Short men aren't taken as seriously, dont get as many promotions, etc. Ugly and fat women are treated worse than beautiful women and ignored by others Getting attention and being treated the **best**, just isnt something people are entitled to. Feminism is about human rights, a lot of less desirable people aren't treated as well as more desirable people socially, its not a human rights issue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 01:14 AM |
| 3 | A lot of feminist identifying women are red-pillers when it comes to male gender roles.Why do so many men think feminism is suppose to impact what women find attractive A feminist should believe you have the right to exist and live your life as you choose a bi, broke, or unmasculine man it does not mean you should find any of these things attractive or date them I dont know why the bi-topic get so much coverage here but again: thinking people have the right to exist in soceity does not mea you should date them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 12:49 AM |
| 1 | Men will never support modern feminism because it exclusively benefits women while trying to lecture and belittle menWomen dont need pshyical handicap to be more vulnerable then men Women are more vulnerable then men Old people and children are also more vulnerable and none of the special offices they have to serve their needs are preferential treatment either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Women need to embrace, modernity all the way.it was never about absolishing all social expectations..especially not romantically If there were no social or behavioral expectations why would heterosexuality exist. aka why would women date men if they were in distinguishable from women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 05:43 PM |
| -1 | Men will never support modern feminism because it exclusively benefits women while trying to lecture and belittle menCan you be more specific. like get really granular with it. Are you taking pshyically vulnerable or something else For instance someone being classified as vulnerable and thus needing more protection doesn't negate equality and is a distortion of the term preferential treatment Handicap people are more vulnerable-yet I don' think special protections to help them is preferential treatment. Do you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 05:24 PM |
| 0 | Men will never support modern feminism because it exclusively benefits women while trying to lecture and belittle menName the specific preferential treatment that feminists push | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 05:11 PM |
| 5 | Men will never support modern feminism because it exclusively benefits women while trying to lecture and belittle menThis is the thing Yoh shouldn’t need to get anything out of other people getting basic human rights. It’s not designed to benefit you- because it shouldn’t have to Women deserve the right to vote, equal pay, and the freedom to choose who to date/not date because it is the right thing to do-believing women should only have those things if they somehow benefit men, is a morally deplorable viewpoint Not only that it enforces the idea that women are not only justified but correct in not wanting ti p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Women calling men “gay” is an insultActions are very much a choice I personally know women who got ‘fed up’ with men and started dating women. No reason men can’t do the same or couldn’t explore the option | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 02:09 AM |
| 1 | Women calling men “gay” is an insultWhen women envy men’s privledge they envy something they actually want Aka women who envy that men make money money..they want to actually make more money. If you envy women’s ability to have sex easily…you either envy women’s ability to have sex with men, because that is the actual sex they are having or You do in fact not envy them and you need to realize it’s silly to keep saying women have an easier time in dating because you do not mean it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/26 02:08 AM |
| 1 | Women calling men “gay” is an insultWomen increasingly know women who were fed up with men and experimented or started relationships with women It’s becoming increasingly common, it’s not an insult and he genuinely letting men know that dating men is an option for them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/26 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Women calling men “gay” is an insultBut easier sex with women doesn’t exist The literal reality that they are referring to when they express that wlmen have an easier time dating/having sex, is that women have an easier time dating and having sex WITH MEN If men want to be jelous of that, they cannot leave the ‘with men’ part out, because it is incredibly pertinent to why women have an easier time Men could also have a similarly easy time, if they were willing to be penetrated. Women aren’t insulting men by pointing that out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/26 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Women calling men “gay” is an insultI understand your point But what is men envying women’s sexual vantage point if not gay? Serious question Men are constantly saying that women have it easier, dating is easier, access to sex is easier. But women have access to sex with men. Women have access to being penetrated. If you envy, that it is not an insult to label that as gay Especially because people can experiment sexually, and if you as a man want immediate attraction immediate sex consistently the reality is it is good advice to t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/26 10:24 PM |
| 2 | Being a SAHM is idiotic for both the partners.It depends what kind of sahm they are Women aspire to be a Pilates sahm no women aspire to be in a live in a crappy house cut coupons to afford grocery shopping type of stay at home mom | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/26 01:08 AM |
| – | Does anyone really believe men are suddenly struggling romantically on a historic level simply because they refuse to meet basic standards or be decent people?Do you think women’s autonomy should be decreased to achieve that? Bc u wholeheartedly agree with your diagnosis and that simply means men will be less desired by women and that’s okay | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 02:37 PM |
| 2 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenDo you think there are no men who plot to sleep with women Again how is this different | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 11:14 AM |
| 1 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenA man chatting to a woman he's interested because he wants to fuck her is not being dishonest Why not? he's interested in her bc he wants to fuck her, why exactly is that better than a woman being interested in a man bc she wants to go on fun trips with him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 05:45 PM |
| 2 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenthere is no inherent value in being sexually intimate for women though. Men as a group do not have the ability to offer women enjoyment from sex, it is not default an enjoyable activity Sex with specific men under specific circumstances can be enjoyable for women--but men who seek sex in general are seeking something for themselves and not for women and men to both enjoy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 05:28 PM |
| – | Men dont being anything to the tableBenevolence has nothing to do with it. People built thing to make money, all the workers you mentioned were paid which is what they are owed, not affection from women Western men aren’t a collective they are individuals. Individual people built things and individual people maintain them today. It makes no sense why men are trying to take credit for things better men built | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 12:57 PM |
| 2 | Men dont being anything to the tableDo you date fat, old smelly women. If not why? Be the change you want to see in the world | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 12:53 PM |
| 2 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenOk? Every person treats every other person in their life differently It’s not like men don’t try to sleep with some women, take some women on dates and try to marry some women There’s nothing particularly inconsistent about that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 12:30 PM |
| – | Men dont being anything to the tableAnd all those women were born to women Workers in a society doesn’t translate to any form of tangible relationship benefit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 12:28 PM |
| 2 | Men dont being anything to the tableWhy would dating need to be fair? Should friendships also be fair? Who would decide what fair is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 12:23 PM |
| 4 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenWhy do so many men assume women view sex with them as inherently enjoyable It’s not and women don’t think it is. Most women get as much out of sex with any given man as the man would get out of flying her to Spain for the week and entertaining her constantly….which is to say, they get very little | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 11:40 AM |
| 5 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenMen clearly do not understand women Because women do not think when random men approach them it’s an opportunity for mutual pleasure. He is trying to get something from her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 11:31 AM |
| 3 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenYou contradicted yourself, you said no one makes the argument that men treat women wanting money as worse, and then you tried to explain why you think women wanting money is worse than men wanting to have sex. In reference to the point you were trying to make, it is definitely an affirming endeavor when a woman finds a man who wants to spoil and take care of her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 11:18 AM |
| 5 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenboth parties can enjoy them going on a trip or out to dinner | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 03:27 AM |
| 5 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenthe reason that so many men here struggle with women is encapsulated in this comment you made I can't imagine how out of touch and unable to understand women you have to be to genuinely think planning a date and being out $100 bucks is worse or less violating than having a person inside of your body and not enjoying it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 03:26 AM |
| 7 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenThe reason men on thus sub struggle so much is they think women should act like them They dont seem to understand mean nd women are different and have different sexual and relational priorities | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 03:18 AM |
| 3 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenPlenty of men like spending money on women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 01:45 AM |
| 3 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenthe point of her comment was that women are different than men Having a man entertain you and spend money on you *Is* fun for women just like getting your dick wet is fun for you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 01:43 AM |
| 3 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenYou are extrapolating mens feelings onto women Penetrative sex is not the end all be all relief of women that it is for men--having sex with another person will often lead you to being more sexually frastrated not less Masturbating IS doing something about it, women do want sexual relief they just often dont find that sexual relief in men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 01:41 AM |
| 12 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenSex is not a need Money to buy food and housing is a lot more of a necessity than sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 12:50 AM |
| 4 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenWomen desire sex ALOT but generally under very specific near perfect circumstances Women do not desire sex with men as a group in any where near the degree that men desire it with women as a group But women are often extremely horny. Most of the time I desired sex, I didn't have it for instance That's the difference | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 12:41 AM |
| 2 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenWhy do men work so hard to coinvce women to have sex with them unless women are less poised to want to have it though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 12:23 AM |
| 4 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenlol sexual investment and repercussions for women last way moe than one night, its hardly akin to $50 bucks in drinks Most men who pursue women sexually also don't pursue women for one night, they call and text and entertain women for extended periods of time to get laid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 12:22 AM |
| 3 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenIf men are looking to get sex first and then determine if they want a relationship that is no different than a woman who is looking to get money first and they determine if she wants a relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 12:21 AM |
| 4 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenBut both of you aren't reaping the rewards for sex, iif women valued sex in the same way men did, men wouldnt work so hard trying to convince women to do it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 12:17 AM |
| 12 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenMen pursue sex when they aren't looking for a romantic relationship though Men pursue sex because they want to have fun Women like when men buy them things because they want to have fun Both parties want fun | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 10:32 PM |
| – | You're just not that guy. Its ok. There's nothing wrong that.okay. if hes not attractive, what else does he expect though. I understand wanting to be seen by others as funny but if no one sees you as funny, you need to find something else to get people interested in you. You might have to rely on being nice, or generous, or start or whatever. Same thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 10:30 PM |
| – | You're just not that guy. Its ok. There's nothing wrong that.you're money is attractive through? Why are you against using what you have to be attractive to the opposite sex, that is what everyone has to do in dating. I know plenty of women who want men to find their sense of humor attractive, yet that rarely works and they have to use their physical bodies to attract men You want women to find your body attractive but similarly you're going to have to use what you have that is actually attractive to women not what you wish was attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 10:28 PM |
| – | You're just not that guy. Its ok. There's nothing wrong that.> It's just what modern society ended up becoming; selling your soul and your worth in order to be good enough to be desired, to be loved, to have what should be one of the most common adult experiences and lifestyles. You seem to not understand what it Is to be a living being. Living beings struggle for their survival. The grind is literally the act of surviving and before our modern soceity people spent every waking second working themselves into the dirt in order to stay alive. Species work a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 10:25 PM |
| – | You're just not that guy. Its ok. There's nothing wrong that.I understand that but why is that considered a red pill phenomenon and not a...life phenomenon Like hard work will help at everything, but you will never get the benefit and treatment of someone who is **naturally good at something Hard work and grinding won't get you the riches of a person with generational wealth Hard work and grinding won't get you the athletic ability of Michael Jordan etc Your hard work gets you the best of what *you* can achieve which is always going to be different than w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 06:17 PM |
| – | You're just not that guy. Its ok. There's nothing wrong that.Can you tell me why this realization is...well..that bad? Like how exactly is this different than anything else Most people are not special; they dont get to effortlessly walk through life, they have to work to pay their bills-often jobs they hate, they have to work to have relationships that often aren't that fafulling, they aren't particularly well liked, they often get overlooked for promotion or special treatment in all sorts of manners, hell most peoples kids don't even like that that much … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/26 05:59 PM |
| 37 | To the women who think men only want sex. Did you ever think to just let us fuck🤔??How. can you tell if a woman only wants money, might as well empty your bank accounts and give it to her on your first date to find out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Are online gender wars just lower class men arguing with upper middle class women?Im married but for most normal people **both people will not be seen as acceptable partners** it is incredibly again naive to think that being merely decent should make you likable Trump is president for god sake, indecent people are often likable, popular nd romantically sought after. I agree that if you are a socially awkward or similar person the people who go after indecent people are not the right people for you, but its immature to not understand why it happens and pretend like there are n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Are online gender wars just lower class men arguing with upper middle class women?Have you been around poor drug addled people It isn’t like they are attractive. The hood and trailer parks aren’t filled with chad, plenty of ugly loser drug addled men have women And the tough love point is you have to figure out a way to make your personality or whatever is interesting about you show, that is part of what being likable and sociable is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/26 06:36 PM |
| -1 | Are online gender wars just lower class men arguing with upper middle class women?Being a decent person and having a decent job isn’t a positive though…it’s a neutral..it’s nothing. You have to have positives to have people like you And your comment is incredibly…naive and frankly showcases why incels and socially awkward people struggle as much as they do because failure to understand being socially awkward is full stop bad / a negative attribute. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/26 06:34 PM |
| 3 | Are online gender wars just lower class men arguing with upper middle class women?Sort of…being **unlikable isn’t exactly a moral failing but it’s still bad Is being boring/awkward/ socially inept as bad as being a hardened criminal of course not but it’s also not fair to say that people who pathologically struggle getting ANYONE to like them don’t have something wrong with them Not having any positives **is having something wrong with you Moreover, I just disagree with your takeaway. The idea that if a druggie felon can get a date and you can’t, means there’s something wrong… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/26 01:15 PM |
| -2 | Blue Piller beliving "dont drowns in pussy = bad human"I didn’t say they were moral faults or that having /not having a moral fault had anything to do with getting women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/26 10:40 PM |
| 3 | Blue Piller beliving "dont drowns in pussy = bad human"You have it backwards No one things that being able to get women = being a good person Rather, most people acknowledge that ALL types of men get women and that well adjusted well employed men aren't struggling and derelict criminals get women and everything in between Its because EVEN low lives and criminals get women, that "mainstream society things something is wrong with you if you can't get any women, because even extreme losers and dregs of society can manage it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/26 05:36 PM |
| 5 | Why do heterosexual women often have problems with not wanting to have sex?His. Men go into sex horny enough that they essentially want to do whatever it takes to use the woman's body to orgasm, women generally don't feel this way because the male body isn't really maximized to make them orgasm easily If you're trying to 'prove' that its a woman's fault for not making herself organsm during sex, thats a fine argument, but it really just proves women shouldn't really be having sex as much as men If you as a woman, are responsible for your own organsm, it begs the questi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/26 02:43 PM |
| 3 | Men need to stop making everything about themselves.Why would you claim I claimed something never ever happens? Everything happens sometimes Women crossing the street, not wanting to talk to certain men, wanting to only meet in certain places is still women treating men as potential predators and not confirmed predators | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/26 04:40 PM |
| 6 | Men need to stop making everything about themselves.Women ARE treating men as potential predators not actual predators If you were being treated as an actual predator women would never ever speak to you and seek to have you banned from spaces | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/26 03:36 PM |
| 4 | Men need to stop making everything about themselves.How is your reaction not extremely entitled? Why is she entitled to give you the benefit of the doubt because you want to hit on her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/26 03:34 PM |
| 4 | Men need to stop making everything about themselves.We say men need to step up because men are the ones who want women Men are saying women won’t give them a chance. That’s not women’s complaint of men: women’s compliant of men is that there aren’t enough eligible men to begin with Men are the ones who want something so they also have to do something | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/26 03:32 PM |
| 1 | Going younger makes sense if you want to be a father16 year old girls were impressed by those things before social media Women don’t care if you have more than them they care if you have more than your peer group No one looks at a 55 year old man and thinks he’s impressive unless he’s more impressive than all the other 55 year old men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/26 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Going younger makes sense if you want to be a fatherNope, vast majority of men NEVER make enough money at any age to be impressive to women 25 year old men make about 40k a year 55 year old men make about 80 a year on average The wages of the 55 year old man aren't enough to move the needle and make you choose him over a younger man. A 55 year old man making 80k has no status, experience, ability to provide to begin with, so as I said its a bad deal for women which is why they aren't choosing it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/26 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Motherhood is a bad deal (and it's reasonable to opt out)lol why is it necessary to bring up that the village must segregate…seems unnecessary | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/26 01:16 AM |
| 2 | Motherhood is a bad deal (and it's reasonable to opt out)If a woman said in order for a man to her hers he needs to surrender all his assets to her would you interest it the same way? It is exactly the same thing with the same implications | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/26 12:48 AM |
| – | Many women use sex as a reward in dating and relationships.How is that bulshit? Why wouldn’t being horny be a prerequisite to wanting sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Men are spinning narrative about them being desperate but they are desperate for top percent of womenI’d tell even desirable women to just opt of of serious relationships if they can’t get what they want bc it’s not worth it, so I’d tell undesirable women the same, to appreciate the attention but focus on other things That’s bc I’ve met single childfree women whose opted who are content and never met a man in my life who was an adult virgin who couldn’t get a relationship who felt the same, but if OP can best of luck to him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 06:06 PM |
| 6 | Can you explain why you want more dates/vacations?Because they are fun? Easier to relax? Less responsibilities meaning more chance for the woman to get horny Women aren’t like men who just get super horny randomly women are more likely to have sex with they are already having a good time Going on dates/trips will make most women more horny and fun and just saying home watching tv in pjs all day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 01:26 PM |
| – | Many women use sex as a reward in dating and relationships.I’ve never really understood what it means to “use sex as a reward in a relationship” Can someone explain it It sounds like men think women are horny all the time and intentionally don’t have sex they otherwise want to have in order to make a point What does happen is women often have a lot of prerequisites to feel horny (aka if the couple is fighting, not aligning, there’s stress, she isn’t being treated well/ is unhappy about something, a million other factors, women don’t want to have sex as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 01:13 PM |
| 1 | Men are spinning narrative about them being desperate but they are desperate for top percent of womenDo you expect your partner to view you as the smartest person in the world if your iq is 50? Men talk about women’s unrealistic standards all the time here but fail to acknowledge people are not going to view you as THE MOST attractive you are objectively unattractive The man is 5’4 and a 27 year old virgin-which points to him being weird/awkward in some way. It is not realistic for him to find a woman who thinks he is the most attractive man ever- no one not even really attractive people get th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 02:32 PM |
| 5 | Motherhood is a bad deal (and it's reasonable to opt out)And I answered The question fundamentally doesn’t make sense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 01:55 PM |
| 6 | Motherhood is a bad deal (and it's reasonable to opt out)lol What does this question even mean? What stopgaps would you put on women, I’m actually curious | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 03:04 AM |
| 8 | Motherhood is a bad deal (and it's reasonable to opt out)Erasure of career/earnings penalties, better universal post partum care, harsher social penalties for men who don’t carry their share of parenting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 12:16 AM |
| 15 | Motherhood is a bad deal (and it's reasonable to opt out)Things can be better than they have been but still not good I’m glad to see women are increasingly opting out of motherhood, society doesn’t have enough appreciation for it, and im a mother | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/26 11:24 PM |
| 0 | Men are spinning narrative about them being desperate but they are desperate for top percent of womenI get it but again respectfully, if you don’t feel you are objectively extremely attractive why do you expect a woman to think that about you 5’4 is tough. I don’t say that to be rude but it’s very very tough. Try not to be preoccupied with being the best or the hottest because—objectively you aren’t. If she’s nice to you in the present, try not to focus on the past Wish you the best | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/26 11:23 PM |
| 17 | Motherhood is a bad deal (and it's reasonable to opt out)And yet motherhood is still hard And comments like this are why women are opting out entirely Men have no appreciation for it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/26 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Men are spinning narrative about them being desperate but they are desperate for top percent of womenFor starters, I’d relax the standards that have no bearing on anything. Body count and her past are silly things to care about, especially bc if you had been able to you would have have past relationships so her having them isn’t really a matter of principle Second id try to make yourself desirable in other ways, for instance insisting on 50/50 is going to harder for you. Being 5’4 and a virgin are again respectfully major things you have to compensate for, going after or being open to women who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/26 10:52 PM |
| 3 | Men are spinning narrative about them being desperate but they are desperate for top percent of womenYou mentioned below that you are 5’4 and 27 and need to go 50/50 on bills. Respectfully, I would say your standards are too high. The things your asking for in a woman are desirable/ rare-ish things but you lack certain desirable qualities yourself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/26 09:47 PM |
| 1 | Men are spinning narrative about them being desperate but they are desperate for top percent of womenThey want relationships, I know women like that too But if they are rejecting all their options they have stil de facto concluded being alone is better than settling, even if they say they aren’t okay being single | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/26 09:31 PM |
| 6 | Men are spinning narrative about them being desperate but they are desperate for top percent of womenBut uts also unrealistic for a “below average” men to exclude single moms fat women etc. young fit women without children aren’t average they are above average is the point I don’t see men/people encouraging these men to be realistic with their standards either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/26 09:29 PM |
| 3 | Men are spinning narrative about them being desperate but they are desperate for top percent of womenWhy does it matter if it’s in your control or not? This is a weird point to make. It doesnt matter why someone is unattractive to you it matters that they are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/26 01:11 PM |
| 14 | Men are spinning narrative about them being desperate but they are desperate for top percent of womenIt depends on how much the person wants a relationship If a woman wants 6 feet or above but she’s fine remaining single there’s nothing with we standard. There aren’t that many 6 feet plus men to go around and if she really wants a relationship she’ll need to compromise on this, but if she doesn’t she won’t It’s the same with single mothers. If you’re in a certain demographic aka lower working class, single mothers are everywhere. There’s no problem with excluding single mothers, but if you real… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/26 01:04 PM |
| 9 | Men are spinning narrative about them being desperate but they are desperate for top percent of womenBy that definition most men have unrealistic standards They want a woman most men think are attractive without being a man most women think are attractive Which is kind of the point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/26 12:59 PM |
| 1 | Women who use dating apps, genuine question - are you actually trying to filter for personality?It depends what you mean by attractive Attractive as in looking at him and immediately thinking he’s attractive…that’s a very small % of men Attractive enough, as in his looks aren’t a deal breaker and are ‘fine’ but don’t overwhelmingly make you think this man is attractive, that’s a larger percent of men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/26 12:56 PM |
| 4 | Women who use dating apps, genuine question - are you actually trying to filter for personality?Women mostly do this already though Women already go on dates with men they feel mehhh about It isn’t really true that most women are only going on dates with 10/10 chad. A lot of women decide to have a first date with someone she doesn’t feel that much about either way, and then men feel used by that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/26 07:26 PM |
| 8 | Women who use dating apps, genuine question - are you actually trying to filter for personality?A lot of men here complain about women going out with men and going on dates when the woman doesn't already like him though You are advocating for more women to go on dates with more men who the women are indifferent to to give the guy a chance. It's a fine recommendation but a lot of men then seem to be upset that women are just going out on dates with men they dont really like | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/26 04:34 PM |
| 2 | Going younger makes sense if you want to be a fatherThis entire sub is about that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/26 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Going younger makes sense if you want to be a fatherIt would solve a lot of issues for the men Women are not resources to be distributed and they are increasing opting out of relationships and sex with anyone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/26 01:42 PM |
| 16 | Going younger makes sense if you want to be a fatherIt’s a good deal for men and a bad deal for women, which is why men want younger women And women are increasingly getting the ick when men more than a couple of years try to hit on them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/26 12:23 AM |
| 1 | "Choose better" until men also have to choose better. Then that's just "female nature".The red pill advises men to go after young attractive women Young attractive women will be less loyal and be higher maintence than uglier attractive women If women should stop chasing Chad then men should stop chasing young attractive women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 08:03 PM |
| 1 | "Choose better" until men also have to choose better. Then that's just "female nature".If she picked a man she wasn’t attracted to and there was a dead bedroom you’d also complain Yoh need to decide if you want women to pick partially based on looks or not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 08:01 PM |
| 0 | What are some common Woman dating Mistakes?Red pill helps men sleep with women FDS helps women get money/resources from men. They are the same thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 06:44 PM |
| 12 | From Past Patriarchy to Modern Dating: Why the Red Pill Backlash?You’re still missing the most likely result: if you took away birth control and started effectively slut shaming women…women wouldn’t react by just getting married to and being commited to unattractive loser men they didn’t like They would just decenter men. If there are consequences for sleeping with the interesting attractive men, the logical decision becomes to stop sleeping with men and leave men alone This is especially true if there’s no birth control. Why on earth would women on masse com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/26 11:54 AM |
| 0 | I absolutely hate to admit it but the release of the Epstein files is exactly why people get anxious over potentially false claims of sexual assaultIts hard to take the idea that false allegations often ruins men’s lives seriously; because true allegations often don’t ruin men’s live See the man in the White House and the men in the Epstein files as proof Nothing is going to happen to anyone in the files even though many are clearly guilty | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/26 07:08 PM |
| 0 | If she wants you, the sex doesn't matterI’m confused? On what basis does she like you? According to red pillers, it shouldn’t matter if you are charming, or court her, or have a good job, or approach her or apparently are good in bed, if she likes you..she likes you Ok..but on what basis would a woman like you if you don’t have any likable or attractive qualities worth liking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 04:43 PM |
| 6 | Self-centered men just can't handle the change that comes with having kidsAre you implying that women don’t carry mental load for their families Also why does she need to include you? How did you get excluded in the first place if you’re an active and present parent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 04:39 PM |
| 8 | Self-centered men just can't handle the change that comes with having kidsOk so what’s the issue here? If you act involved you’ll be treated like you’ll involved Your wife doesn’t need to try to include you…you’ll just be included Again what’s the issue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 04:38 PM |
| 10 | Self-centered men just can't handle the change that comes with having kidsWhat wives think it’s their husbands job to make them feel included in their kids lives Women just act like they are a part of their kids lives | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 02:43 PM |
| 4 | Self-centered men just can't handle the change that comes with having kidsDo you pay taxes, go to the doctors etc An extra 1k a month is annoying but I’ve had basic expenses go up over a 1k a month-taxes, electric or whatever bs and it wasn’t the end of the world | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 02:38 PM |
| 11 | Self-centered men just can't handle the change that comes with having kidsJack is responsible for himself. He can go with Stacy if he wants. But he cannot go with Stacy and then bitch that his wife divorced him and he now doesn’t see his kids and has to pay child support because jack did that himself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 02:35 PM |
| 2 | Self-centered men just can't handle the change that comes with having kidsThey did divorce. So there isn’t really a problem | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 02:28 PM |
| 9 | Self-centered men just can't handle the change that comes with having kidsIt’s 1,000 per month on two kids… There’s no money for the kids and her on 1k a month | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 02:27 PM |
| 14 | Self-centered men just can't handle the change that comes with having kids200k is a lot of money 200k over…14 years is not It’s 1,000 a month…for we don’t know how many kids That’s not a lot of money | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 01:49 PM |
| 14 | Self-centered men just can't handle the change that comes with having kidsIt isn’t your wives job to make you feel a part of the family Be an adult and perform like a member of the family and your actions will make you feel like one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 01:47 PM |
| 1 | Most examples of good male role models still covertly represent traditionally masculine ideals of unachievable levels of wealth, status and success that harm men's mental healthIsn’t this the same for women? Middle aged chubby kind hearted women’s aren’t really held up as ‘role models’ either For someone to model themselves after you you do need to be special in some way typically ir be doing something noteworthy or better than someone else Not saying you need to be Simone biles but generally people look up to other people to achieve or model difficult things | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/26 08:43 PM |
| 13 | Why should "consent to sex isn't consent to Parenthood" only apply to women?Consent to sex isn’t consent to pregnancy If men have sex they aren’t forced to carry a baby to term If women have sex their aren’t forced to carry a baby to term Same | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/26 08:16 PM |
| 2 | What advice would you give a Men early 20- very early 30That has been the advice to kids yes, improve and work on yourself has always been the advice given to adults | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/26 01:19 PM |
| 6 | The UN’s Gender Inequality Index was designed to discriminate against menThe un is an international body that designs paradigms to be used by countries globally—with specific focus on developing nations Why would you expect the UN to have a null hypothesis as it relates to men and women’s global equity when anyone with eyes and ears and see that women are disenfranchised relative to men in developing nations | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/26 01:14 PM |
| 4 | With the advent of OF and online means of marketing women are absolutely privileged in sex workYou can do the same with gay men though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/26 01:09 PM |
| 1 | Why should women want relationships with men who don't pull their weight?The link you shared proves my point that most men don’t take care of their families financially It litterally says husbands and wives earn about the same | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/26 01:08 PM |
| 4 | Why should women want relationships with men who don't pull their weight?Most men don’t take care of their families financially though so it’s all null and void | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Why do you demand empathy/sympathy from women? What do you think will change?White women aren’t the only type of women And abortion isn’t the only women’s issue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/26 12:43 PM |
| 1 | Why do you demand empathy/sympathy from women? What do you think will change?Rape, sexual violence, pregnancy/reproduction/ maternity leave and card Are all women’s issues Women don’t have to have the same view on abortion for women to have more unified views on women’s issues than men do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/26 12:42 PM |
| 10 | It's not reasonable to expect young women to have fully flushed out and mature standards in men out the gateThat’s not true Mothers and grandmothers tell their own daughters not to rush into marriage and motherhood. They weren’t in competition with their daughters | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 10:42 PM |
| 3 | It's not reasonable to expect young women to have fully flushed out and mature standards in men out the gateSort of What I’m saying is everyone expects that most 22 year old attractive fun men are not yet marriage minded; many won’t be commitment minded. It’s understood that these men will probably grow out of it, make better decisions at some point Yet men seem unable to extend that grace to their female counterparts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 09:57 PM |
| 3 | It's not reasonable to expect young women to have fully flushed out and mature standards in men out the gateWomen’s timer gives them till about 40 though, it’s still plenty of time And young early twenties men don’t listen to their parents advice about dating and sex either? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 09:52 PM |
| 3 | It's not reasonable to expect young women to have fully flushed out and mature standards in men out the gateWomen of older generations are the ones telling young women to date around first, prioritize their career, and that marriage and children should wait Older generations tell younger women to wait, take their time and have fun | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 09:49 PM |
| 1 | It's not reasonable to expect young women to have fully flushed out and mature standards in men out the gateTerrible advice not based in reality but whatevs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 07:22 PM |
| 0 | Why do you demand empathy/sympathy from women? What do you think will change?What societal problems are making men kill themselves | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 06:33 PM |
| 3 | It's not reasonable to expect young women to have fully flushed out and mature standards in men out the gateWomen can join the military too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 06:30 PM |
| 2 | It's not reasonable to expect young women to have fully flushed out and mature standards in men out the gateMen have unrealistic expectations about women if they expect young women to be more mature and less shallow then them Why would you expect a hot 20 year old girl to have great priorities in picking a partner and to not br shallow Young adults make bad decisions, want someone mature, date someone older | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 06:16 PM |
| 1 | It's not reasonable to expect young women to have fully flushed out and mature standards in men out the gateThat’s a fair assement and perhaps society would benefit if we had younger adults take on more responsibility younger But until that happens we can’t act surprised that 20something girls are more immature than their male counterparts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 06:13 PM |
| 2 | It's not reasonable to expect young women to have fully flushed out and mature standards in men out the gateBut they don’t and aren’t and we haven’t had a draft in 50 years The average 18 year old boy can barely tell time: expectations of them are low and should be low for their female counterparts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Why do you demand empathy/sympathy from women? What do you think will change?That isn’t how you reduce suicides though If you are feeling suicidal the correct approach is helping the individual understand that suicide is not an appropriate coping mechanism and to teach them better coping mechanisms You actually can’t just have society work together to take away each and everything that make an individual feel sad So while o agree young men need better mental health the end result of mental health and therapy is to teach the patient how to resolve their feelings without s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 06:06 PM |
| 3 | Why do you demand empathy/sympathy from women? What do you think will change?The difference is: what you’re describing as men’s issues, many men disagree Women’s issues are more uniform and women as a whole agree they are issues None of the men I know agree that that you define as men’s issues are men’s issues. None of them agree or what women to empathize with theee issues because they don’t think they exist What you’re describing is a lack of compatibility between you and certain women; you want women to empathize with your plight which is fine especially in the contex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 05:56 PM |
| 16 | Why do you demand empathy/sympathy from women? What do you think will change?This reply is hilarious You admit you can’t actually empathize with women but expect them to empathize with men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 05:44 PM |
| 3 | It's not reasonable to expect young women to have fully flushed out and mature standards in men out the gateSort of? But who should lead the charge and why What’s the compelling reason to have 20 year olds be marriage minded when nothing is really lost if they don’t become marriage minded until 30 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 04:52 PM |
| 2 | It's not reasonable to expect young women to have fully flushed out and mature standards in men out the gateYoung men don’t meet hypergamized standards And most young women understand they need to wait for their male counterparts to mature and dare around before they are ready for committed partnership, men will need to learn the same | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 04:50 PM |
| 2 | It's not reasonable to expect young women to have fully flushed out and mature standards in men out the gateIt matters to you because your failing to take accountability for your own dating failures while blaming women for failing to take account of your own dating failures 22 year old women know their male peers are mostly going to be non comital fuckboys so they often have tk go older and not date and they don’t expect men to be marriage minded at this age You’re expecting a hot 25 year old to pick you..it’s as delusional as what you accuse women of doing. The women often aren’t marriage minded so y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 04:49 PM |
| 1 | It's not reasonable to expect young women to have fully flushed out and mature standards in men out the gateLetting fathers choose for them isn’t preferable because it’s perfectly ok to let women go through this phrase It’s called growing up. We met young boys mature and grow up, let the women figure it out and come to their senses in time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 04:44 PM |
| 2 | It's not reasonable to expect young women to have fully flushed out and mature standards in men out the gateThe question remains why you would expect them to pass it. Is the 18 year old football jock nice and sweet and looking at personality in women only and a perfect Boy Scout..of course not…he’s a boy and most people, his parents, his elders, his male and female peers expect, he’ll fuck around and be selfish that’s what we expect of young people You should expect the same of young women, they’ll get nicer with age but yea 18 year old hot girls are often bitches | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/26 04:43 PM |
| 7 | For all the talk about the differences between men and women, men here seem to ignore the gender differences when it comes to the topic of sex.If you expect her to be viscerally attracted to you, you are asking for a pretty high bar unless you are objectively and undeniably very attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 08:09 PM |
| 12 | For all the talk about the differences between men and women, men here seem to ignore the gender differences when it comes to the topic of sex.Men aren’t women though. That was the point of the post, expecting women to view you like you view women is an unreasonable expectation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 05:21 PM |
| 7 | Do you think you can actually Empathize and understand the points of menBut what does empathy look like from strangers around…datijg grievances Wide spread empathy is typically around scope and severity and I’m not sure it’s a severe issue that needs society wide addressing if there are women who would prefer to stay home and wash their hair than go on dates with you There a lot of women who for whatever reason are saying no to men, and you want other women driven by their ‘empathy’ for you, to intervene on a social level and try to manipulate or socially pressure w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 05:00 PM |
| 3 | Does the "most average people are in relationships" argument work for women too?No one is saying it’s the only reason it could possibly happen—but it’s the most fixable and likely the culprit in an individuals situation even if it’s not the exact same in everyone’s situation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 03:28 PM |
| 1 | Women wouldn't hate men so much if they were attracted to themWhy would you expect a woman to appreciate those services more than another man does? Those aren’t gender related services that only benefit one gender; those are jobs individuals are paid to do Individual men doing individual jobs doesn’t impact men’s value in an interpersonal relationship, why would you think it does | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 10:31 PM |
| 3 | Women wouldn't hate men so much if they were attracted to themYour utility is what you provide your parter specifically in the relationship. You as a man do not get credit for providing utility because other men maintain shit. And the maintenance of systems that society benefits from is not the utility you offer your partner btw | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 02:43 PM |
| 9 | Women wouldn't hate men so much if they were attracted to themSo because men have identified that women have utility they “love” women lol. Women have inherent utility to men because men can use them for sex, so they want women Men do not have inherent utility to women, and in fact can engender women so women are more inclined to want to leave them alone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 12:04 PM |
| 2 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsits because women see a relationship as an option and men see it as a nessesaity apparently if the airplane is full to the destination where you want to go to, its perfectly reasonable to stay home instead its not necessary for you to just take the next airplane going someplace you dont want to go just because its empty | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 06:53 PM |
| 1 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsSix figure men are dime a dozen in major cities. Treating one like he is gods gift to earth will signal to him that you don’t regularly have exposure to men like him and will likely cause you to be weeded out as a prospect Like I said, it’s bad advice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 03:16 AM |
| 2 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsyou are describing your fantasy because you aren't one of these men and dont know any this isnt even advice that works | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 01:41 AM |
| 5 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardswhy would it make them look bad | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 01:07 AM |
| 0 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standards23% of men are sole earners which is the number you're looking for. Making 60% or more of income doesn't work if the woman also works, you'd need to look at couples where the woman doesn't work at all Not really, women less are attracted to men they have to provide for because if women are taking care of/having children and providing, the man isn;t doing anything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 12:57 AM |
| 4 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsThis is objectively false unless you are only talking about cities and HCOL areas. Also, you don't even need to own a house to have kids but let's grant it because it doesn't change my argument. < the mortgage on a 450k house is about 2700 per month. a family making 80k will have trouble affording that thus 80k My comment was in response to the comment you made about high earning women have low fertility. High earning women have low fertility because when you are the one who has to birth the chi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 06:04 PM |
| 3 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsI mean if you only wanted to date women who got periods that would be fine But to be clear most women under 45 have them so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 04:49 PM |
| 3 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsbc as I said, she's probably busy at dinner time and youre unwillingness to help in that moment Is not a good sign as a partner I already said:There’s probably some exceptions to this aka the woman has absolutely no obligations and spent the day shopping and at Pilates and the couple is just happy, then sure. But most stay at home women are moms, so at dinner time you’re already busy, getting the food out, the kids fed, if the kids are young, actually feeding the kids cleaning up after them. A m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 04:09 PM |
| 4 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsnot really--if you buy a house and you're only providing 60% of the income/downpayment, you're both helping each other. She is also supplementing you unless you can buy the house 100% on your own When teenagers work, they tend to make tiny amounts of money that is used only for their own discretional shopping. If you pay for your wife's mortgage, car, insurance, meals, entertainment and clothes and savings and she works to pay for Starbucks and lipgloss from Sephora, then sure, you're providing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 04:07 PM |
| 5 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsif you don't want to date infertile women because you want children, that's pretty legit.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 04:00 PM |
| 0 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsmen aren't providing for women currently..and many men shouldn't drop out of soceity but they should drop out of dating if they aren't able to find a woman they want to partner with. We're talking about a voluntary system. Men don't universally provide, its fine for men to not provide but women should probably refrain from having children with men who can't provide for them (a lot of men agree with this re:welfare: Similarly, if you're a man who wants kids you should probably screen for women wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 03:59 PM |
| 2 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsEarning 60 of earnings is still not all of the earnings though If a woman is working and earning 40% of the income…the man isn’t providing for her Men consistently seem to define provider to mean means most of more than and fail to understand a provider provides EVERYTHING If a woman works a job for money that the family needs or uses, she is not being provided for by husband | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 03:16 PM |
| 8 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsIf women were better vetting the men they sleep with..one of the ways they would vet would be with income so sexless rates for men would go up with women actually vetted men properly… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 03:09 PM |
| 1 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsI’m agreeing in a scenario when women do not engage their reproductive systems in a relationship/ society we can have a gender neutral society But very few men/governments want that So in the current reality than men and society expects women to do gendered work..men also have to do gendered work As you point out more women are not doing gendered work (not partnering with men or having children) and so men will have to do less gendered work too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 03:06 PM |
| 3 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsRight so women are earning money and birthing raising children, hence they are doing both roles | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 03:02 PM |
| 3 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsThis is such a wild scenario that is disconnected from anything in op so i need you to share what you think this is the same as first…9 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 03:00 PM |
| 1 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsBy some type of help I mean…whatever help is needed. I wasn’t referring to live in cleaning but most umc families hire a cleaner somewhere between weekly and monthly and severer figures is above umc To answer your question as to why it’s not good to clear his plate 100% of the time..bc in general it’s not a good relationship dynamic There’s probably some exceptions to this aka the woman has absolutely no obligations and spent the day shopping and at Pilates and the couple is just happy, then sur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 02:59 PM |
| 3 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsEasily in the top 1% percent of incomes is seven figures Most men/families who make seven figures hire some type of cleaning help | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 02:35 PM |
| 2 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsYou should pick a partner who you are attracted to who is also a competent adult who makes you’re life better Everyone selects people based on tangibles. How many men would marry a woman who was ugly and refused sex, you know that’s a tangible benefit right | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 02:02 PM |
| 2 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsMarried :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 02:00 PM |
| 4 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsBecause modern women still get raped and give birth and as such are at risk for systemic inequities Significantly less modern men ‘build’ contemporary society | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 01:48 PM |
| 7 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsI’m not saying men must make an arbitrary amount of money. I am saying the economy being what is is pushes people to consider the earning potentials of their partner if they want children The fact that most people cannot support a middle class lifestyle and family is why people are partnering and having children less. You are coming from the assumption that one MUST pick someone, women increasingly have the option of picking no one which is what they are doing More and more women are doing as yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 01:45 PM |
| 1 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsAre you saying men can only succeed if women are held back | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 01:39 PM |
| 2 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsHow much money were you making and what were you expecting her to do There are plenty of women who are happy to take care of the household but yea if you refuse to evertake your own plate to the sink you’re going to have issues finding that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 01:38 PM |
| 0 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsAgain, If women are making the money and having the children and raising them What are men doing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 01:36 PM |
| 3 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsAgreed, the six figure conversation is essentially a lower middle conversation because umc men just aren't struggling as much they also don't have issues with women screening for financially and educational compatibility because they want the same Men with any kind of education and means generally understand why they should be motivated financially and want to provide as much as they can for a wife and kids. I've never met a man who didn't want provide his (highly educated) wife with the flexibi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 12:45 PM |
| 1 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardslife is expensive for everyone. you asked a question > Young women already earn more than young men. Why do they still expect money from men? and I answered..because life is expensive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 12:37 PM |
| -3 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standards'men' are not the builders of society..what is with men who had nothing to do and have nothing to do with the creation of society trying to take credit for the work of better men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 12:36 PM |
| 6 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsAgain you can't provide on 100k that's sort of the point If you are paying for everything all of the time, there are plenty of women who would be willing to be a homemaker most men making six figures can't provide that so they don't get that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 12:34 PM |
| 1 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsbecause life is expensive if you as a woman are paying the bills, and having raising the children, the man isnt really doing anything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 12:30 PM |
| 1 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardshigh earning educated men overwhelmingly date and marry within their social class https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/archive/2025/04/the-problem-of-finding-a-marriageable-man/682613/?utm_source=chatgpt.com | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 12:26 PM |
| 0 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsfault matters on a systemic basis, not an individual one the baseline empathy you have with strangers in passing is very different from the threshold you should having when sharing your life or body with someone. If someone is impoverished and sick through no fault of their own, they are absolutely not a bad person and you should have empathy for them...you absolutely shouldn't date them though Women, even high earning ones, dont see the men in drive throughs and feel disgust, they are however n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 12:13 PM |
| 1 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardswhy don't men fight the system? That's essentially the question I asked in OP but you ignored it and asked about women. Women are fighting the system by opting out of dating. > Lastly, why can’t women just earn more and more women lead finance relationships be normalized? Why are you immediately assuming that men still have to be the high earners here? Why would women do this when women already have to do everything else. You say becoming a mother is a choice, it is, which is why women are incre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 12:05 PM |
| 2 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsthe data says most people marry within their socioeconomic group the data says ceos marrying waitresses is rare | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 11:59 AM |
| 4 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsa fairy gender neutral society would require women not giving birth there's no double standard that men provide more when when women give birth. the fact that you think pregnancy is a small period shows that men don't have enough reverence for the lifelong impacts physically and financially that pregnancy and motherhood has on your body | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 11:55 AM |
| 0 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsMany women want men to do both gender roles because Most women ARE also doing both gender roles | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 11:51 AM |
| 2 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsthere's no reason to think that men who have zero sexual appeal are nicer and better partners than those who are getting picked and there's no reason to think 'having tingles' is a bad thing and you shouldn't find a potential partner exciting or interesting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 11:50 AM |
| 4 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsadults needs money. Probably the defining fact of adulthood is you will need money to live and raise a family and its extremely juvenile to make essentially ANY major decision as an adult and not consider the financial implications if the woman is providing her own money, and birthing and raising the children herself, she's doing everything alone and will start to question why exactly she needs a partner | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 11:47 AM |
| 4 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsits simultaneously true that most people don't make 100k and that 100k is barely enough for a middle class life. The median household income is around 80k in the United States. The majority of families in the United States are raising kids without making 100K a year. Has it become harder? sure but it is still very possible If your household income is 80 you will not own a house. pretty much anywhere in the us. Homeownership stats are skewed bc of life before covid. A lot of people bought houses … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 11:42 AM |
| 3 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardswhy do you think the men who aren't getting picked would treat women better? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 02:44 AM |
| 0 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardsit doesnt really matter if they are fine with it or not, does it. It matters id they DO it. And overwhelmingly men marry their peers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 02:41 AM |
| 2 | The economy and rising costs are influencing women's 'six figure' standardswomen have also put their fair share in relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 02:39 AM |
| – | Women in today’s society use motherhood as an excuse to let themselves golol another reason why women are opting out of motherhood what percent of men 30+ with kids are fit with abs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/26 12:14 AM |
| – | Why are women like this?You’re actually side stepping the issue The woman in question didn’t see any men she wanted. Your advice would be relevant if she found a gorgeous guy but he. Didn’t want her—but that isn’t wasn’t happened. The issue is finding the man in the first place: women are increasingly having difficulty finding men they want, the man has to exist first and then if and once she finds him she has to qualify, but I imagine her fristration was finding him in the first place | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 11:52 PM |
| – | Why are women like this?Because most men are attracted to most women so it would actually be strange because it is unusual The reverse isn’t unusual and wouldn’t read as unusual to women. Ask a woman how many people she thought were her attractive at her college of thousands of people, the answer for most women isn’t thousands of men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 11:45 PM |
| 1 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyGoing on dates that are fun and don’t feel like a business excursion are often a prerequite for women to think of a man in a romantic way I swear men consistently say that were lied to and then when a pretty benign future is spoken Women especially pretty women with options who don’t know you are more likely to like you if you make a good impression and present yourself favorably and that’s easier to do over slmething fun or potentially romantic (which can be a range of activities | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 01:12 PM |
| 2 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyCoffee was an example because the “vibes” of coffee shops are off A cute bar with drinks or another fun date has the same effect. No where did I say the date needs to be insanely expensive but it needs to be something a person would enjoy doing, especially if they are a person with options | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 01:00 AM |
| -1 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyIm saying you have to plat the hand you were dealt I don’t understand the men here, they talk about the plight of being average Part of being average is that you are not exceptional so what works for exceptional people does not work for you. Rich people get to have money and opportunities handed to them. Average people have to work and work to have money handed to them, why are so many average men who know they are average in disbelief that most people have to work hard and try to get the things… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 12:56 AM |
| 1 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyNo he didn’t he said for a woman who enjoys sex… If a woman wants to have sex there’s about a trillion guys she could have it with. Generally speaking the man is trying to convince him to have it with her, so he would need to out the effort in | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 09:58 PM |
| 1 | It's All ProstitutionWant to live In a house? Money. Send your kids to good schools. Money. Be able to go to the doctor when sick? Money. Money is an essential part of life which is why it’s an esssential element people look at when considering relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyThere’s nothing wrong with refusing to take women on proper dates But hopefully none of them men here complaining about taking women on dates aren’t also the men who say they can’t get women interested in them. If you’re not doing the bare min things to put effort inter your interactions it shouldn’t be surprising you’re not getting desired results | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 09:42 PM |
| -2 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyIt is about personality and effort…for you People aren’t the same and they have to deal with the hand they were dealt. I don’t know why everyone expects the same advice to be applicable for every person If you are not a person that people naturally gravitate towards you need to make up for that with personality and effort etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 09:39 PM |
| -3 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyThe explanation is that women assume the guy is doing it too In fact she’s often doing it because she assumes he is too Every single guy I’ve ever dated was dating and sleeping with women until we became official | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 09:27 PM |
| 2 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyExactly. Pretty girls are getting taken on dates, even fuck boys buy drinks/dinner trips Maybe not every woman and maybe not every time but men dating desirable women are spending time money and effort to woo them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategy…in the statement you wrote … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 08:47 PM |
| 2 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyBecause the woman doesn’t care if she has sex with you, you do? Why would women put work into something they don’t care about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 08:01 PM |
| 2 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyDoes that happen to you a lot? A lot of men say women show them no interest to begin with But if you’re strategy works for you go for it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 07:58 PM |
| 0 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyAgain you want sex out of the exchange—you want to extract sex from her But you are upset she also wants to in your words extract sex from you You are unable to see that you want to do the exact same thing to her you’re accusing her of wanting to do to her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 05:26 PM |
| -1 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyWhy does it hurt men’s feelings so much that they have to work harder than Chris Evan’s and Michael b Jordan to get women This is an insane take of course you have to work harder | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 05:19 PM |
| 0 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategylol you just said you put up with women to get sex that's about as noble as women putting up with men to get attention, fun times etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 05:12 PM |
| 3 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyTell me in your scenario how the woman knows the man enough to be into him? They haven't had a first date yet, she doesn't know enough about him to be interested in him yet. She haven't even spent enough time together to see if there is chemistry they haven't been out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 05:05 PM |
| -4 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyIm making a few assumptions based on my own experience When I Was single there was always tons of men asking me on date (esp considering old) I wasn't yet invested in any of them. Unless the man was remarkable in some way, why would I have interest in a stranger over the other strangers who were at least seemingly more fun becuause they wanted to do something interesting? If a woman doesn't know you she has nothing to be interested in yet | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 05:03 PM |
| -3 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyIm saying it out loud it's not controversial. Play the hand you're dealt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 04:59 PM |
| 1 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyof course there are some women who've done that, where did I say courting was always required Moreso refusing to court ever is not a good strategy if youre trying to get a desirable woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 04:58 PM |
| -4 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyThanks for your comment--the question remains however, if you aren't chad, why is it surprising or shocking that you have to work harder? Some people have rich parents and dont have to work. Some people are naturally good at baseball and dont have to practice. Some people are brilliant and dont have to study but for most ppl, you need to work your ass off day and night to pay your bills and study for hours and hours to have a chance at passing. I get that it sucks to not be rich/famous/gifted bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 04:55 PM |
| 11 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyI appreciate your comment but here's where you're wrong. She doesn't know you to like you. Maybe if you meet a woman originally or you work together, sure, but if you meet someone on an app for instance, she doesn't know you enough to like you. You have to get to know each other and this is one of the ways you do that to see if ***you like each other** | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 04:37 PM |
| -2 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyLets take a step back You are a woman with limited time. Why would you go to get coffee with a stranger? Can we start there. Because when I was single--my weekends were busy. Work during the week was work and at the end of the day after work, I was hungry, so dinner drinks was the only thing that made sense. During the weekends, you're busy with friends and activities and it doesn't make sense to forgot something more interesting to go get coffee with someone you've never met My biggest issue wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 04:33 PM |
| 5 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyWomen aren't trying to get men to be horny though. You are trying to get women horny. For whatever reason you're insisting on a set up that isn't likely to produce positive results. Coffee dates are not fun--a stranger is asking you to do something boring, unless you are bored out of your mind and having nothing to do, why would you go to that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategyif you dont like how women work, don't date women. But it seems counterproductive for a group of men to whine about how they are confused about women and women lie, and then act annoyed at the truth. Women aren't men and generally showing them a good time helps get them horny | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Hair transplants are gender affirming care, and should therefore be subsidized in countries with socialized healthcare.Lol women have to deal with a lot more trauma and pain than male pattern baldness in their teens it's called having a period and female reproductive system. Its the negative symptoms and health consequences that can go wrong are a lot more pervasive than mpb | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 03:45 PM |
| 1 | Hair transplants are gender affirming care, and should therefore be subsidized in countries with socialized healthcare.Some girls /Women develop wrinkles grey hair as teens too. It’s cosmetic but again I don’t have any issues with insurance covering cosmetic procedures | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 03:34 PM |
| 1 | Hair transplants are gender affirming care, and should therefore be subsidized in countries with socialized healthcare.Mpb is a natural part of aging I don’t have a problem with anti aging being covered by insurance but it’s 100 cosmetic anti aging | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 03:26 PM |
| 14 | No way most men are friends with a rapistMost men won’t knock a woman over the head and drag her tk an alley to rape her Most men, will absolutely push past nos in a physical setting not stop immediately when asked and get pushing when women ask them to stop especially if the couple is already naked | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 12:57 PM |
| 43 | Hair transplants are gender affirming care, and should therefore be subsidized in countries with socialized healthcare.Do you think Botox for women is gender affirming care that should be covered by insurance? Same thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/26 01:21 PM |
| 1 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?But you don’t think they are better so why are you surprised? Both genders do crazy things when horny that’s not news ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 08:09 PM |
| 2 | Its not biphobic to not date bi menThis is an overly niave and risky view Women exclude men for all types of minute things no reason to not take this into account | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 01:58 AM |
| 2 | Its not biphobic to not date bi menMen who have sex with men have the highest rates of stds, that's not phobia that's fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 01:29 AM |
| 2 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?Why bring up men in a discussion about how gendered behavior is a core part of dating for both sexes? Huh? Gender roles are part of dating, they are part of dating for everyone, no one wants to date without gender roles is my point, its relevant that neither men nor women want to date someone who has nothing masculine or feminine about them There is no inconsistency, you keep asserting theirs an inconsistency when there isnt one even after ive given you examples on how no one follows each and ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 09:11 PM |
| 3 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?Did you even read what I wrote because you aren’t addressing it There are plenty of gender roles that men aren’t expected to do. Men overwhelmingly don’t fight and dont build anything for instance. Men are expected to perform SOME gender roles in order to attractive to women. Women are also required to do SOME gender roles in order be attractive to men. Women don’t exclusively cook and clean anyone but they are still expected to do plenty of feminine things. There’s no contradiction here Further… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 07:24 PM |
| 5 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?Who are “you” without your personality | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 06:24 PM |
| 0 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?They exist but they are niche There are women who like unmasculine men but they are niche just as there are men who like unfeminine women but they are niche | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?Women aren't men. Women dont have a defect attraction to naked male bodies in the way the reverse is What youre claiming as unfairness and rigidly of standards is you failing to acknowledge that women are genuinely different from men and have more narrow attraction preferences naturally | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 05:42 PM |
| 3 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?This changed within the past 20 years, probably in the last 10. Definitely not 70 Again I'm a millennial and there was immense pressure in the early 2000's to be partnered. We grew up thinking we needed to get married to men That pressure evaporated very recently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 05:39 PM |
| 1 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?Do these men actually gasp what unfeminine women are I had an coworker who dated men but was butch in appearance and also into pegging, that's an unfeminine woman, and I guarantee she had trouble dating men Something tells me you're still imaging cute girlie women who are merely not instagram models Those aren't 'unfeminine women' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 05:37 PM |
| 2 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?It was easier. Women use to be taught that they had to pick someone, so they picked men without examining how much they actually liked him or if they wanted him Women are no longer under the pressure to pick anyone so if they don't actively like you they will increasingly pick no one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 05:21 PM |
| 0 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?Women don't need to be feminine to exist. They generally do need to be feminine to get the attention of attractive men Men don't need to be masculine to exist but you will probably need it in order to be attractive to women You dont seem to understand that what you need to do as a human being to exist and what you need to do to appeal to the opposite sex are different things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 05:20 PM |
| 2 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?Men do outrageous things because they are horny all the time Why are you outraged that some women sometimes do the same thing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 05:15 PM |
| 4 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?Not claiming its exactly the same, just that women have always required effort and a lot of men seem confused by that! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 05:13 PM |
| 3 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?Men continually focus on the gender roles that women don't do but tend to ignore the ones that women very much uphold Women are very much expected to look, dress, and act feminine, if they want to have relationships with men. They are also expected to have and tend to babies if the couple decides they wan to be parents. Those are gendered roles and expectations. < I think a lot of women cheer on the 'smash the patriarchy" and "gender roles are outmoded and antiquated" narrative while they still … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 05:10 PM |
| 1 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?Ok? So give up on women idc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 04:27 PM |
| 0 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?They were not puas Normal men were trying to play sports/invite girls out/ plan parties/ be nice/ be sweet in order to appeal to the women they liked | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 03:41 PM |
| 4 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?There’s not a set reason men and women are just different Men’s default is to like/ be attracted to women and something needs to be “wrong” for him to not feel that Women’s default is to not like/be attracted to men and something needs to be “right” for her to feel that The problem seems to be that too many men believe the way they view attraction is right or better and don’t understand it’s different | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 03:33 PM |
| 3 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?Ok so don’t put the effort in? Women put less effort in because they don’t care as much. Men continually trying to parrot what women are doing is bizzare and frankly unmanly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 03:31 PM |
| 5 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?OPS question, which suggests that men are confused when women don’t seem to have the same desire /interest in men they have in women Men generally use to know this and understand they had to do things to cultivate this Men today seem shocked by this and seem tj think their crushes should feel the same way/like most men the way they like most women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 03:29 PM |
| 7 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?A mere 20 years ago (I’m a millenial) young boys and men were taught they had to do things to get women to like them Young men men seem to expect women to like them how they like women (at first glance without having social proof, extending any effort etc) That’s the difference. Young men just decided to stop putting forth the effort and are observing the results | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 01:07 PM |
| 7 | We should try to convince women to appreciate non-financial value in male partners.This is where men often get things wrong It doesn’t matter if you can ‘help it’ or not. It’s about outcome. If birth /early child rearing falls on her for WHATEVER reason you have to do something to ‘match it’ Men can do others other things well. But they rarely do, and frankly they don’t prefer to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/26 05:52 PM |
| 9 | We should try to convince women to appreciate non-financial value in male partners.it doesn't work because men rarely do the other aspects of home care that women do (entertaining, socialization, kin keeping, and can't do the main aspect of 'home care' that women do which is having babies/breastfeeding So for most women the man who is 'keeping the home' isnt doing as much as women do when they 'keep the home' so such a man isn't sought out as much and creates more work for women in the long run | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/26 05:42 PM |
| 1 | If you want to sleep with a woman you are attracted to you might have to do things to woo herWomen generally find it masculine when men take the lead financially But not every woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/26 03:17 PM |
| 5 | Women’s Selective Traditionalism Fuels the Red PillEquality does not mean sameness Men and women are equal Men and women are also different. These two sentences do not contradict each other. Straight men date women because women look/act/behave differently than men. Straight women date men for the same reason If you want to date a member of the opposite sec you have to demonstrate someeeeee behavior “typical” to that sex. Theres no contradiction here. Men have to do certain things in order to be attractive to women. The reverse is also true. My … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 10:49 PM |
| -1 | If you want to sleep with a woman you are attracted to you might have to do things to woo herWhat is confusing about this You can get yourself off but having someone else do you for you is often better | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 07:27 PM |
| 2 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptablethat's not romance, its lust. lust isn't noble stop trying to pretend like it is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/26 08:07 PM |
| 21 | What's With the Sudden Increase in "Women Being Lead?"I don’t think anyone wants to be lead by a ‘regular guy’ The uptick in women who want to be led is women who want to be led by an exceptional/rich man, wanting to live the soft life etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 03:31 PM |
| 2 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableThe question remains if that’s enough for other people though Your situation is fine and people are allowed to partner that way but there’s nothing wrong with waiting for the perfect fit either, especially if you’re okay being single | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableWhat’s being said is a neg. You want women to feel plain and insecure so they will settle for you That serves you it doesn’t serve women. Im married but for any single woman: youre not going to ruin your life having too high of expectations and thinking to much of yourself, you might ruin your life in the inverse though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 02:39 AM |
| 4 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableAverage and below average people do not have to pair up which appears to be the direction things are going in | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableThis is so hilarious that this entire threat is basically men saying no Women shouldn’t want their partners to actullly like them and view them as special they should be okay being interchangeable lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableDude You started by saying women don’t value men’s preferences on body count I responded by saying women don’t care about men they aren’t interested in No one cares about men’s or women’s preferences, everyone cares about the prererences about the people they want to impress Most actual men women are interested in don’t care about things like body count I’m not sure why it would be surprising to you that women who aren’t interested in you would change their behavior to suit your preferences You … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableSo the. We actually agree. Women don’t demand anything of high status men because they aren’t in a position to demand it The men may listen to the women they care about though The same exists in the reverse. Women don’t care what men as a whole want, they care about what the men they care about want | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 12:08 AM |
| 1 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableWhat are their demands And are their demands heeded or ignored | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 12:01 AM |
| 2 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptablebasically yes, not bad is nothing and nothing is basically bad Women use neutral a lot more than men do so most men are neutral | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 11:48 PM |
| 2 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableNot really--you can be perfect to someone without being perfect objectively its not about needing a person who believes you have no flaws but someone who choses you because he likes the combination of what you. have to offer best | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 11:46 PM |
| 2 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableThe difference is that women don't need to be the best X to be the best overall I dont know any women who needs to be the hottest or best lay or smartest, funniest, etc girl are husband is with. she just wants to be his favorite | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 11:43 PM |
| 0 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableand you proved the point of every red pill hating woman.. that maybe most men and women aren't actually compatible and if you can't find the one it probably is better to just stay single | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 11:41 PM |
| 2 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableI was talking about the perfect person for you I agree its not a set of objective traits across everyone you should find someone who fits and is the best for you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 11:39 PM |
| 1 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptablemen with options are absolutely allowed to have preferences its mostly that men with options don't really care and women aren't going to change their behavior to appeal to men they dont want anyway | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 11:38 PM |
| 3 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptablethat's pretty individual to the man she's trying to date? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 11:36 PM |
| -1 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableaverage is acceptable ""to you** I've never met so many people who were okay being average in my life Prehaps this is the difference between men and women that's actually causing the rift women want to improve and be and get more and a lot of men want to be mediocre and want to find contentment there | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 11:34 PM |
| 1 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableRelationships are completely optional you seem to be missing that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 10:11 PM |
| 0 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableYou just said no one likes her that much though? If no one likes her that much what does it matter | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 10:09 PM |
| -1 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableYou should accept it because it’s your only option? Don’t know what to tell you you can improve to be what a woman wants or decenter women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 10:06 PM |
| 3 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableA man who wants a woman to be humble is generally a man who wants a woman to have posative attributes aka be beautiful but not “act like “ or know she’s beautiful Men who want you to humble want you to be special without wanting you to feel special Next | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 06:46 PM |
| 3 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableI say it isn’t my place because I didn’t do it. So it’s hard for me to recommend women do something when the opposite worked best for me tbh encouraging women to settle in real life relationships and get off social media would make sense if those real life relationships with lower standards produced happier women and I’m not sure they do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 06:42 PM |
| 4 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableThis next generation of women is expected to be majority single for the first time ever in about a decade, I guess we shall see | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 06:17 PM |
| 2 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableI’m married but my point still stands for other women Luckily women know “humble” is a red flag | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 06:16 PM |
| 5 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableIt isn’t bad. It just isn’t good A lot of men seem to genuinely struggle with the understanding that you have to be good not just not bad and be a net positive tk be in someone’s life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 06:14 PM |
| 9 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableThe difference is you don’t have the choice to be the other guy You have the choice to be that guy or alone For women who have that choice I’d encourage them to be alone, and more of them are taking it Men should follow suit or accept it is what it is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 05:19 PM |
| 2 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableWhat a lot of men don’t seem to understand is such a man is often a liability On another thread a man actually argued that a man who was uninteresting, unintelligent, financially unstable, un humorous and un social could be a good partner bc he could be supportive and kind What he failed to understand is that practically, such a person couldn’t even support you well…they couldn’t support you in your friendships or career or relationships with others because being an effective support requires sk… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 05:07 PM |
| 9 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableCompromise is important but you’ll have to compromise less if you are just compatible to begin with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 05:03 PM |
| 13 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableI disagree hard on this We naturally agree on the type of life we want to have, political views, values parenting styles, what to eat for dinner, where to go on vacation, what jokes are funny, and how to spend a Saturday morning We didn’t build any of those things, finding people who naturally view the world the same way you do, who wants to do the same things, who you have chemistry with who shares your values. is what I would recommend to anyone seeking a partner I would discourage any woman f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 05:02 PM |
| 6 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableI agree with a lot of this and I don’t mean an exact checklist, especially about inconsequential things, for instance, I’m not arguing for holding out for the guy with blue eyes over brown. But I am talking deep compatibility and traits even somewhat superficial traits that are important to you. For instance my husband and I like to spend our free time in pretty much an identical way so there’s little conflict where we’re debating what to do, where to go, what to eat etc. it’s a sort of small th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 04:52 PM |
| 4 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableWhats right with acceptable and decent? Why is that better than being alone? If I were single and that was my only option I would accept that there isn’t anyone for me and I wpuld need to find happiness elsewhere, You’re wrong there’s not value in some random lifeless guy paying attention to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 04:37 PM |
| 6 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableThat bar would do for men not women For women, single single is better than you’ll do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 04:25 PM |
| 3 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableIt depends on your objective, if you’re objective is marriage than yes everyone who you didn’t marry is not the person for you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 04:05 PM |
| 2 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableWomen are willing to be alone if are replaceable and treated as not special though and that’s the difference It’s better to create a life with friends and others you can enjoy. Men don’t seem to be willing to do this Also, women aren’t trying to avoid accountability in being selective women are allowed to be selective, there’s no “accountability” to avoid here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 04:04 PM |
| 2 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableThen this explains why coupling raises has decreased and *should decrease The issue is that men seem to think this issues should be ignored and people should partner anyway even when it wouldn’t make them happy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 03:47 PM |
| -1 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableTo be clear I don’t think your position is unreasonable but neither is hers One of you has to screen diligently if you want the relationship to work and if it don’t going to be you it has to be her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 03:46 PM |
| 2 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableExactly There’s this idea that a decent man should be enough. But having a partner whose only attribute is decency isn’t actually better than having no partner at all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 03:31 PM |
| 7 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableI don’t believe in soul mates either but finding someone who is genuinely compatible with you is harder than you think Most of the guys were pretty exceptional from an objective point of view but many of us weren’t a match for whatever reason and they weren’t lacking options either they too wanted the best partner for themselves and not just a good or even great girl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 03:21 PM |
| 6 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableIm not saying it’s settling from his perspective But if a woman has an education and career she is proud of a man who doesn’t value that and wasn’t searching for that likely isn’t a match for her You said “men” don’t find it attractive but a lot of men do find it attractive and do find it a prerequisite for dating/marrying, women need to find the men who value what they offer and vice versa If you don’t want to be seen as a consolation prize you need to willing to walk away and be single, which … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 03:15 PM |
| 13 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableI dont think men are women, I think they are genuinely happy with less The issue as a woman is really if you are okay being less For instance, when youre a 25 year old woman if you're bf/husband is only looking for a nice pretty, girls whose nice to him and basically smart, that is all your friends, that is everyone you know. Most women I know find it pretty insulting to be with a man who would be happy to be with every single woman in their friend group/university. What is the point of that rel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 02:35 PM |
| 5 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableyes that's the point of dating to date until you find the person that makes you not want to date any longer.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 02:14 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menI never said most women wouldn't.t I never said most women were moral but if a woman was advocating her morality and using it as a selling point, I'd assume she was clearly a very high bar and not ascribing morality to herself because she wasn't a complete ciosiopath which is what men seem to be doing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 01:21 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menYou have low standards for your own life That's allowed, but you have no authority to dictate to others that they should also need less I'm very happy. The women I know are very happy. Hell the men I know in life who are happiest have high standards for themselves and the people around them There are 8 billion people in the world. You only need one. No woman is going to be happy with you when she knows you didn't really care about her and picked her bc she was good enough not because you were sp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 01:19 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menI cannot explain to an adult how if you want your parter to view or give you credit for a certain attribute you have to demonstrate that attribute to them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 01:15 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menare you implying that women are bound to date men just because they have essential jobs you seem be be inferring that women have an obligation to shag certain men to keep the lights on... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 01:07 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menFor the average women…there aren’t enough eligible/good men to begin with, which is sort of the point If every woman woke up tomorrow and was perfect there still wouldn’t be enough quality men for them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 02:26 AM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menAgain this is a clear semantics issue between men and women. No woman thinks a man is good merely bc he harbors no ill will The fact that you make fun of try to poke holes of that sample list I gave is telling, wanting a person who you deem fun to be around is in fact the bare minimum I’m married and I would discourage a woman from compromising on anything on that list (or its equivalent of whatever is important to her in order to be happily married You shouldn’t be asking yourself if you really… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 02:23 AM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menWhy do you need a lot….for your one and only life? No you don’t need jets and the like but otherwise I think this is a sad outlook that wouldn’t work for myself and most women incidentally, I ask the same question framed a different way, what would the point be if coupling your life with someone whose only traits are… not terrible, that isn’t a better life than having no partner at all Having a partner that treats you right and makes you breakfast is important , but you need to like the person a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 02:19 AM |
| 2 | Why do we have a generation of "weak" men?Why do you think that is Also curious what age are the women you’re dating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 09:42 PM |
| 2 | Why do we have a generation of "weak" men?Because some problems are societal and some problems are personal If you don’t know how to bake a cake or clean your room, I’m not sure what your expecting in terms of other people If you want friends you have to make them. If you want people to want to date you you need to attract them. Again how and why would you expect anything different Liberalism and feminism were not designed to get you invited to every kid in your classes birthday party, you have to do some of it yourself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 09:18 PM |
| -1 | Why do we have a generation of "weak" men?Women aren’t the ones faltering and complaining that they don’t how to figure out their new gender role Men are the ones begging for direct no bs advice and accusing women of sugar coating things You don’t want it don’t take it, but t he first easiest peice of advice is to accept that you aren’t a woman and using what women do to appeal to/attract men will not work for you unless you want to have a femme role in your relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 09:11 PM |
| 0 | Why do we have a generation of "weak" men?Most men understood until a few years ago that they were not women And starting a dating conversation with ‘but women get to do it’ was a strange thing to do Women are also….dating men….what women do to date men wouldn’t be relevant unless you are trying to date men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 08:40 PM |
| -2 | Why do we have a generation of "weak" men?You’re proving his point… Men are acting like/ wanting to be treated like women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Why do we have a generation of "weak" men?I think there’s a lot of truth to this Do you think male self improvement is a positive or negative for men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 08:14 PM |
| 3 | Why do we have a generation of "weak" men?Respectfully, Why don’t you feel the need to figure it out? Women have their equivalent and it is hard and confusing there’s no debating it, but the question remains why do so many men seem to be crumbling instead of adapting Thw truth is you have to be both—young men like women are expected to have the best traits of both sexes essentially be masculine and competent and emotionally intelligent, an equal partner etc. women seem to be able to do that balancing act better, why do men struggle so m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 08:10 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menI was actually trying to sus if the men most men view as good men have a plethora of good traits but aren’t attractive By most men’s omissions it seems like most of the men have neither good traits nor are attractive Truthfully, I don’t understand **why* it’s a source of discontentment I truly cannot imagine a group of women who offer nothing except they are honest and not cheat and are non violent upset that they aren’t being picked/ that their lack of posative traits is a negative traits I don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 07:54 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menThanks for answering, what do you make of those men who are extremely single do you or they think it’s unfair they are single? I ask because, respectfully, I don’t know any women who would consider being honest, not cheating or being violent as points to brag about If these attributes are coupled with numerous other attributes I would understand it, but I don’t really understand how one would be surprised they were single if this is all they offered | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 07:05 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menNot really, The list didn’t make me feel any way strongly tbh. I thought there were some good points so I didn’t think it was wrong but it didn’t raise to the level that if someone said they met a new guy and he had thoughts traits and nothing else, he woukd be classified as ‘good’ Mostly I thought it was a fine list and sounded like a fine guy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 05:27 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menThe only men who are obsessed with women taking their resources are men without resources If you want your partner to think of you as a generous person you need to be generous TO THEM it’s not that complicated You don’t need your partner to think you’re generous if it’s not important to you but even positive traits like kindness/generosity aren’t going to mean much to your partner if you never direct those traits towards them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 05:23 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menI am married but the amount of men who seem to be offended at the idea that to enter into a relationship with a woman her life has to be better with you in it than without you are insane | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 04:28 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menIf a woman is nurturing to orphans but ignores your own children it probably would have the same effect In the context of a relationship you need to show your posative qualities to your partner | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 03:52 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menOne point isn’t statically significant Furthermore, the ages indicate that men cheat in marriages and committed relationships at higher rates which is infinitely more significant than cheating on yihr college bf/gf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 03:39 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menDo you think they struggle with women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 03:36 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menWomen aren’t interested in men they don’t know exist So they spend a lot of time trying to appeal to the type of men they want in hopes they will meet him at some point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 03:35 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menSo….if a man has neither attractive qualities, an attractive personality nor is physically attractive do you think it’s reasonable for him to expect to have a relationship? And do you think it’s unreasonable for women as a whole to refuse to date him Because If not I can’t understand why men are upset or feel they’ve been overlooked by women… I can’t imagine saying yes, I’m boring unfunny un ambitious un interesting unsocial and ugly…and thinking it’s in any way unfair that I was single | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 03:30 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menThat’s fine but men need to get less upset with the assertions that there are a lack of good men to date…bc as men have repeatedly pointed out the number of men who are decent and interesting, etc is very rare And why/how men can complain when they are overlooked by women when the only thing they have going for them is they aren’t outwardly immoral, as if that should be viewed as an accomplishment or reason to date a person is beyond me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 02:55 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menWomen don’t try to appeal to most men bc women don’t want most men Women spend a lot of time to appeal to men they are interested in | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 02:52 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menI also mostly agree The criteria for getting into a relationship and staying in one are different though Should you divorce your partner bc they are boring or loose their job, no, I don’t think so. But a boring, untalented uninteresting jobless man is not a good man to partner with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 02:51 PM |
| – | Why do men think there are so many good menIt’s actually very similar to google bc you know google is asking about good employees even if they say good people and in conversations about dating, women are talking about good men are talking about good men ‘for dating’ In any chance, if the terms are confusing, do you then agree that there are few ‘good men for dating?’ Women don’t just define the terms differently, it’s a matter of degree Men seem to genuinely be comfortable describing themselves as good for the bare minimum I don’t know a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Why do men think there are so many good menim married but many men here have asserted that finding a funny, kind, considerate, fun to be around, financially stable, monogamously minded man is difficult and if that's the case than yea, there is a shortage of good men for women to partner with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:47 PM |
| 0 | Why do men think there are so many good menWhat was confusing? Women don't think they are marry Poppins and aren't trying to be? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:40 PM |
| 1 | Why do men think there are so many good menMen seem to complain more about not being able to get dates than women dont fit their criteria, which is why the conversation focused on 'good men' if women are desperate to get dates with men then I think there'd be more conversation about the lack of good women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:31 PM |
| 1 | Why do men think there are so many good menIm married and multiple men have admitted there are not enough funny, smart, nice, interesting, kind considerate guys to go around | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:28 PM |
| 1 | Why do men think there are so many good menOk? You provided a list but there were no additional prompts I didn't really have anything to add | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:26 PM |
| 1 | Why do men think there are so many good menThen we have a semantics issue where men and women are talking part each other. But it seems like we actually agree on the heart of the issue That even excluding conventionally attractive men: kind, hardworking funny, sweet, smart, interesting, considerate, monogamous men are rare If that is true and men and women agree on this, we can end the gender wars right now and there isn't anything else to discuss Men who don't have those characteristics aren't good men to date. > A good man is a respons… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:20 PM |
| 1 | Why do men think there are so many good menThank you for a good list, I think you created a list that describes a good person and its beyond the characteristics of 'basically not an evil person' which is what others described. First, I don't think most single men fit this definition either. Most of the men who comment here are not kind, caring, and considerate for example Second, it appears a lot of men are lacking in basic social fluency. I don't mean this as an insult, I mean this very matter of factly If google says it's having troubl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Why do men think there are so many good menI'm not moralizing anything Every conversation about a lack of good men pertains to **dating and thus part of being a good man in this context is having good qualities to date Men keep saying that the reason women say there are so few good men is because women are only looking at attractive men I removed attractive from the criteria And men are still admitting that most men lack most of the other qualities that makes a a man a good man to partner with as well Which shows it isn't looks holding m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 12:50 PM |
| 4 | Why do men think there are so many good menGood means multiple things actually A good salad could mean tasty It could also mean good (for you) Again your inability to understand this is likely the source of your issues communicating with women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:52 AM |
| 0 | Why do men think there are so many good menImagine being an adult and thinking you need to have less than 8 positive attributes about you And? Good for them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:42 AM |
| 2 | Why do men think there are so many good menYou need to familiarize yourself with the concept of context and etymology of words Just. because you're unable to grasp the practical implication of how words are used doesn't mean they are used incorrectly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:38 AM |
| 1 | Why do men think there are so many good menIts not enough And that is what seems to be crippling most men, Thinking that one tiny non remarkable attribute makes you good, it doesn't This isnt even about men. I would never ever describe myself as a good person or woman or friend or anything else only because im supportive. Every woman I know is supportive of her friends, and funny, and well educated, and loyal, and a great hype person, and interesting, and smart and understanding different types of landscapes (professional, romantic, fami… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:33 AM |
| -3 | Why do men think there are so many good menClearly it's this. I was expecting men to discuss the stellar profiles of the single men they know, nope. They mean men who aren't evil serial killers, they think that is "good" and wonder why women dont agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:27 AM |
| 4 | Why do men think there are so many good menHe is bad to be in a relationship with. Full stop Which is where the question of a 'good man matters' The man isn't necessarily evil but he is absolutely not good | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:25 AM |
| 2 | Why do men think there are so many good menMost fascinating thing about this is the men think its an unreasonable list non unironically proves that the bar is in hell | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:24 AM |
| -1 | Why do men think there are so many good menNever met a woman who thinks she's marry Poppins or a woman who thought when men ask for good women they mean marry Poppins women actually understand what men say when they say they are looking for a good woman. Men apparently have no idea | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Why do men think there are so many good menAgreed then. I would never consider a decent person a good person. I would consider them a not terrible person Even if we're only taking about character, having good moral character is hard and rare in my opinion > Sure, by that standard, majority of people wouldn't be "good." Same would apply to women though. If men set the standards of good and women having to meet an equally high amount of criteria, then there'd barely be any women who'd count as "good" women as well Again, men are very free … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:19 AM |
| -1 | Why do men think there are so many good menGenerosity is a pretty good universal trait but why would any man expect what makes a man a good man for a relationship and what makes a good woman for a relationship to be the same? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:16 AM |
| 3 | Why do men think there are so many good menIf single women are taking about a dearth of good men they are taking about a death of men have positive qualities I have never in my life not understood that if a man (who is single in a conversation about dating) mentions that there are not enough good women that he means women who have attributes that one needs/wants in dating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:14 AM |
| -6 | Why do men think there are so many good men<The issue here is y'all conflating "good" with "suitable". The discussion of good men/women is almost always around the concept of dating. How is suitable/eligible not implied. Again I removed pshyical attractiveness from the criteria and people are still claiming that 8 attributes are too many. It is implied that you have to have positive qualities in order for people to like you... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:11 AM |
| 0 | Why do men think there are so many good menThis man isnt good though this feels like rage bait. That you could think this man with numerous terrible qualities is good because is he a supportive partner (which said man with terrible qualities wouldnt have anyway is proof that the bar is in hell | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 01:05 AM |
| 3 | Why do men think there are so many good menI already excluded attractiveness Good means Good. At something in some way. You are not good because merely because you aren’t Jeffery dalmher What good attributes have you explained. None. Not morally good Not socially good No relationally good | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 12:38 AM |
| 6 | Why do men think there are so many good menSo you agree the bar is in hell then Because why on earth would anyone meet another person and the only positive thing about them is they aren’t out to harm others, as if that is suppose to be a compelling reason to like or want to date them Women complaining about the dearth of good men to date means good men to date. I already excluded being physically attractive and said what other things do the good men you know do that makes them good /good prospective partners and the only thing you came u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 12:32 AM |
| 4 | Why do men think there are so many good menAgain what do you think your friends do that make them good. And good to be in a relationship with. You haven’t listed their characteristics and attributes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 12:28 AM |
| 7 | Why do men think there are so many good menExcept when most people are taking about good or bad people of the opposite sex I didn’t think anyone is normally taking principally about morality Morality was bought up bc someone else claimed men were using that metric when in actuality I think men fail at both metrics When most women complain about the lack of good men they are complaining about men with a lack of good attributes which are required to be a good man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 12:25 AM |
| 6 | Why do men think there are so many good menI actually never argued that most women were moral but since you asked Women have WAY less propensity to cheat And women as a group favor equality and programs and services to help others out. Young women being increasingly more liberal than young men demonstrates that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 12:04 AM |
| 2 | Why do men think there are so many good menIt's not too demanding..you are revealing that you think a good man is anyone who isn;t an ostensibly terrible person. That is a terrible awful basis to consider someone good to partner with An uninteresting , unambitious, socially inept, financially unable man isn't evil but he is absolu-fucking-lutley a a bad man for (for the purposes) of building your life with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 12:00 AM |
| 6 | Why do men think there are so many good menTwo groups taking about different things There are absolutely women taking about the morality of men too. Do you believe most men are moral? And if so in what ways | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 11:55 PM |
| 5 | Why do men think there are so many good menIts generally implied they dont have a partner because they lack enough positive qualities to get one I dont think anyone things allll single men struggling to date are evil, rather they are lacking in enough positive qualities | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 11:53 PM |
| 5 | Why do men think there are so many good menWhy mention to women that there are lots of good men (when women are complaining about dating) if you dont mean the men are good for dating though? Why bring it up, if it s not relevant | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 11:50 PM |
| 6 | Why do men think there are so many good menIm not moving goalposts, the concept of "good men" is in the context of relationships so a good man **to partner** with is implied | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 11:48 PM |
| 6 | Why do men think there are so many good menYou have to keep going...what makes someone a good and supportive partner < Sure if you definition of a good man is that he have to have that that that that that that that that that that and that, it will be rare. The more criteria you had the less chances you have to find that partner Aren't you proving my point, that there are not a lot off good men or the men just aren't thinking through what being a good partner and person requires? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 11:45 PM |
| 0 | Why do men think there are so many good menOk so they aren't good then. Also when women are picking partners, no one picks a partner because they merely lack evilness. No one says that is a good guy because he isn't evil. A man is good because he does good things/has good attributes/can provide good things for this partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 11:39 PM |
| 10 | Why do men think there are so many good menYes, Part of being an adult is understanding the practicalities of life. If you don't want to be poor or homeless and especially if you want children, a financially stable partner who is not stingy with money is absolutely a prerequisite to being a good partner | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 11:38 PM |
| -2 | Why do men think there are so many good menYou dont need to know every guy in the world, come on.. Based on the men you know and your perception of other people is it your belief that most men are moral based on the examples I gave? Answer ( of course they're not) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 11:34 PM |
| -1 | Why do men think there are so many good menIm asking you specifically about the non chads that you believe are good and women are ignoring. What makes them good? My list of personality traits was a small list of some of the attributes that can make someone good or a good partner. What makes the men you think are good, good? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 11:30 PM |
| 10 | Why do men think there are so many good menYou didn't specify what they do that makes them good or what they would do in a relationship that makes them good | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 11:28 PM |
| 6 | Why do men think there are so many good menseems cope and avoidant in answering the question | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 11:25 PM |
| 13 | Why do men think there are so many good menYou think most men would never lie or cheat or hurt another person? You think most men have airtight integrity and virtue? You think most men support equality, have no racist or sexists thoughts, and genuinely always want the best for others? Because that is the base level definition of moral and even if we are ignoring that a good man (for a partner) would need to have good characteristics to bring into a relationship. I'm not sure I buy the idea that most men think most other men are good mean… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 11:24 PM |
| 17 | The cock sharing pact between alphas and mid-tier carousel casualties is fucking dead.Exactly.. he’s actually the textbook definition of why women wanted liberation not an example of why top women got top men Even top women got completed jipped in the old system | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 05:19 PM |
| 16 | The cock sharing pact between alphas and mid-tier carousel casualties is fucking dead.He ruthlessly cheated on Betty and they got divorced lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 05:08 PM |
| 1 | There are not enough conservative women for conservative men to date.You think not wanting to have sex with equals despising? Oh please Working class men should have rights which is what the left believes Women on the left are not required to desire such men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 12:57 AM |
| 1 | There are not enough conservative women for conservative men to date.Rich, socially charismatic men are the real sex symbols I have never met a woman in my life who thought a guy who worked in the trades was hot | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 12:55 AM |
| 3 | There are not enough conservative women for conservative men to date.Gruff and macho aren’t what women typically describe as positive attributes of masculinity though Women look down on a lot of tradesmen and men who work with their hards for a living for instance. Few women think a plumber or bricklayer is more masculine than a doctor Do you think most women/people view day laborers as more masculine than anyone else? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/25 02:30 AM |
| 3 | There are not enough conservative women for conservative men to date.Are you really trying to claim that liberal men can’t open pickle jars? Liberal men especially well educated high professional men are a lot more chivalrous than conservative men This sub learns conservative and is filled with men with the whiniest takes that I’ve never seen in the real world amountg liberal men ( being jelous of women, wantkng mandated paternity testing, not wanting to pay for dates There are reasons men have to lie about now being conservative in order to get dates | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/25 02:25 AM |
| 10 | There are not enough conservative women for conservative men to date.Most of the highest paying respected professions are filled with highly educated liberals No idea where this idea that conservative men are more manly or sought out comes from | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/25 08:49 PM |
| -2 | No one told men that good manners and good morals translated to sexual desire within most women.I’ve noticed men often take comments extremely (almost autistically) literally and it leads to a good deal of mis communication between the sexes What do you I repret your female friends saying when they say they just want someone to treat them like a human being? Bc if my girlfriends told me that I understand what that means but I’m guessing you interpret that differently | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/25 07:46 PM |
| 1 | The majority of criminals are not raised by single moms. That’s just propaganda to blame women for the actions of men.No a good solution would be for men who father children to understand they have instinct responsibility for them Men’s responsibility for their children doesn’t come from the relationship you have with the woman. Men have intrinsic responsibilities to the children they create and it is not women’s responsibility to make you live up that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/25 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Women should just cut off any access to intamcy till they get the result they want.Most loser men with women are not hot Most men who refuse to pay child support are not hot Most men who rape women are not hot Most men who have drinking or gambling addictions and have women are not hot It is a strange delusion that most of the men who are Flanders assholes are chads because they are not Regular boring mal adjusted men ruin women’s lives all the time Go to a Walmart for goodness sake, are most of the men the women having sez with Chad, no, I didn’t say society offered around of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/25 01:40 AM |
| 0 | Women should just cut off any access to intamcy till they get the result they want.> Perhaps women should choose better men who don't do those things. The choose better argument is nonsensical. How does one preemptively know wha another person is going to do? You might have a point if being a deadbeat loser was rare but considering how common it is among men, the only way women could reliably "choose" their way out of it, is avoiding men all together > It proves the opposite. LOL how so? > I don't think women have the self control to stop fucking chads. Maybe not, but they hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 10:22 PM |
| 2 | Women should just cut off any access to intamcy till they get the result they want.If men need all of this to work hard and not abandon their children..doesn’t this just show men are at their core not good people Why would doing all of this be better than OPS suggestion for women to just leave men alone at large? Women don’t gain anything in the society you outlined above which is why we fought to free ourselves from said society | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 06:49 PM |
| 1 | My theory about why women do not usually look for stay at home husbandsThis is such a disgusting take and one only a very clueless man would make Women don’t want to ‘get stuff done’ while pumping Pumping is what they are getting done Take things off her plate so she can focus on pumping I can’t think of anything that would send breastfeeding women into a rage faster then asking them to do chores while they pump | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 02:41 PM |
| 2 | My theory about why women do not usually look for stay at home husbandsFor most women this is just the worse of both worlds Pregnancy and breastfeeding are physical realities. Post partum wrecks your emotions (for many women) If the woman is doing all of that and bread wining the man really isn’t pulling his weight. Even in couples where both people work, one of the reasons I suspect marriage rates are down is that even when finances are 50/50 women are becoming resentful of having to contribute equally financially and do traditional mothering It’s too much and not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 02:35 PM |
| 0 | Men have standards by default and criticize women for doing same thingOk? Where is the double standard though No one has one single set of standards everyone must follow. Obviously if you happen to just like someone some hard and fast standards won’t mean as much Who has ever argued that they treat every single person they have met or gone on a date with the exact same? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/25 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Women who hate on single moms usually are insecure and hate kids.My god The poor hate themselves if they don’t have enough dignity to understand not being able able to feed and clothe their own children is bad | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/25 07:43 PM |
| – | Women contribute a LOT to "nice guy angst".Women are increasingly educated, skincare/beauty conscious, have a good group of friends/ sociable, financially stable and liberal They don’t actually need someone better than them but they struggle to find someone equal to them Educated, sociable men, who spend the time women spend focusing on their “!beauty/appearance, who are financially stable can find quality partners more than their female counterparts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/25 05:05 PM |
| 3 | I think women should refuse to pay for anything on a dateHow are so many men responding to this in earnest and missing the point my mind is blown… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 09:04 PM |
| 6 | I think women should refuse to pay for anything on a dateMen all the time say they want Chad treatment but are not Chad, she’s trolling and saying the same thing to show you how redic it is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 09:01 PM |
| 9 | I think women should refuse to pay for anything on a dateWhy is everyone not understanding her clear sarcasm and parodying men who are angry when a woman has casual sex with a man before him won’t have sex with him Why is this taking people so long to get? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 09:00 PM |
| 1 | The way those who hate age gaps talk about them is actually reinforcing tropes about younger women being more desirableAccording to you the men her age are bad options only want her for sex The older men only want her for sex too. If they didn’t, they would just date women their own age If you have two options who want you for sex you should choose the hotter option, which is almost always the younger guy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 07:35 PM |
| 5 | The way those who hate age gaps talk about them is actually reinforcing tropes about younger women being more desirableThat’s not true —-it’s predatory if and when men are seeking something for nothing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 04:56 PM |
| 2 | The way those who hate age gaps talk about them is actually reinforcing tropes about younger women being more desirablePeople understand young women are generally more desirable women increasingly discourage women from entering into age gap relationships because it tends tk be a better value extraction for the man than for her It’s to help the young woman understand she has options and and can probably do better | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 04:48 PM |
| 2 | Women who hate on single moms usually are insecure and hate kids.Its disengenuous to claim that its merely 'hating poor people' People in poverty overwhelmingly don't seem to understand how they are harming themselves and their children by having children in poverty No one who does not have the means to have provide a decent life for their children should consider having them, the fact that this isn't universally understood is alarming | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerLet’s examine that How many parents including fathers raise their daughters to be that way? Very few More parents raise their daughters to be ambitious, opinionated, and interesting more than they do to be only gentile and kind Even children are the same the people I know who like their mothers the most do not have mothers whose only identity is their families but rather there is something more interesting and dynamic about them Fun interesting and dynamic beats merely gentle and kind | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 03:43 PM |
| 2 | Women who hate on single moms usually are insecure and hate kids.I have great empathy for single mothers Its a bad situation and they are making the best of it But what you are advocating..essentially whitewashing it and pretending like its *not a bad situation is one of the most harmful things you can do for other women Almost nothing will ruin your life faster and more severely than having children in this manner. It's also strange to use Melania trump as a woman who didn't benefit from marriage....Melania was basically a sex worker and now through marriage… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 02:14 PM |
| 0 | People are frustrated because they're essentially wasting their prime years without intimacy and romantic affectionOkay? Birth defects are pretty rare though and are screenable before birth so its not something people really need to factor into their fertility plans | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 01:33 AM |
| 1 | People are frustrated because they're essentially wasting their prime years without intimacy and romantic affectionNot only are birth defects exceedingly rare They are also mostly detectable through pre-natal tests | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerAnd those men are right that those women are crazy. The man is a GOD and he's generous, hire someone to clean for you wtf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 01:15 AM |
| 2 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerWho has a definition of 'impressive' that includes the majority of people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 01:13 AM |
| 2 | The hate for single moms comes from jealousy.Because both people are responsible for themselves and their own actions Both of them are responsible for their own failure to prevent pregnancy should a pregnancy arise. Do you disagree? If a pregnancy results they are both responsible for the pregnancy I don’t think a man commanding a woman to get an abortion, which is an invasive an intimate medical procedure, means that he’s no longer responsible for the resulting child | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 12:48 AM |
| 0 | Putting ego aside for my woman’s pleasure. Girls thoughts?The difference is that most men can finish with most vaginas Most women can’t finish with most men so enhancements, including toys often need to be bought in so she can orgasm Unless you think women shouldn’t orgasm too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 11:48 PM |
| 2 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerWomen are choosing not to enter the role of First Lady because not every man can be president and Joe the plumber doesn’t need a First Lady I don’t blame a man for not wanting to spend his life propping up another person. In the same way it doesn’t make sense for a woman to want to be a sidekick to someone else who isn’t particularly impressive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 11:31 PM |
| 1 | The hate for single moms comes from jealousy.She chose to be a mother and if she’s taking care of her children she’s fulfilling her responsibility Let’s go through the steps for a man: You know there is one form of birth control available to you condoms If the man isn’t responsible for -vetting the woman -discussing other forms of birth control if they are inportant to him -Ensuring he’s wearing a condom -not having sex if he doesn’t feel comfortable with the level of birth control It actually isn’t reasonable for him to just demand an abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 11:16 PM |
| 2 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerA woman who is all of those things and is interesting and fun would have lots of friends. Women don’t really prioritize wholesome or agreeableness in friends though Parents want self actualized interesting daughters Children (at least daughters want the same of their mothers) In addition to being kind. Kindness without “edge isn’t interesting to anyone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerI didn’t say likable though, being likable will absolutely help women. But being agreeable and non connotative isn’t likable, being interesting charismatic and opinionated is likable I’m married and yes being hot and being likable in a vocally opinionated charismatic assertive way, works wonders | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 09:20 PM |
| 0 | The hate for single moms comes from jealousy.You just mean she refused to get an abortion No I don’t believe men are victims or less responsible because they can’t force women to get elective and potential dangerous surgeries, and I’m pro choice Men are not a victim when they get women pregnant of their own free will and can’t compel women to get a surgery afterward | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 09:17 PM |
| 1 | The hate for single moms comes from jealousy.A woman who is raising a child alone IS being responsible for her choices I don’t know how she could be more responsible she is doing the work and taking care of the child by herself I don’t believe you are responsible for other peoples behavior. If you choose a roomste from Craigslist and that person murders you I don’t think you are ‘responsible for the murder because you choose them If a man and woman have sex and a pregnancy occurs I don’t think the woman is more responsible for that than th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 09:14 PM |
| 3 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerIt’s pretty inaccurate that you think only virgin women get spoiled. The secret to getting your Husband to buy you a Rolex is marrying a man rich enough to buy you one Women who are kind, agreeable, and non materialistic do not have better outcomes than the inverse Signed a spoiled former career woman turned sahm who is kind of a bitch lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partner“Marriage and kids” as a concept doesn’t make women happy the right marriage to a man perfect for you does There are increasingly not enough kind, successful, cute, loving men to go around And if you can’t find one, it makes sense to opt out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 08:11 PM |
| 1 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerI dunno this seems overly myopic A lot of this is insinuated with him being kind and selfless Also someone who is a Prince Charming/ A god probsbly has someone at the palace to make the sandwiches and pick up the socks Also He’s a heart of gold super hero who regularly risks his life for people…who the hell cares if he picks up his socks… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 08:05 PM |
| 6 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerI’m not saying it’s a point of contention though I’m explaining why society still holds the female ideal in higher esteem, it’s because the ideal is better for society If men wanted their female ideal to be held in high esteem by society they need to have a female ideal that benefits others and not just themselves | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerI want agreeing or disagreeing with you If you don’t think it’s worth it to do something, don’t do it In general striving to have qualities associated with the ‘ideal man’ will lead to you having a better life as a man as everyone appreciates those qualities Striving to be a more ideal woman (aside from being more attractive) will lead to lost women having a worse life as no one respects those qualities But as always do you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 07:48 PM |
| 2 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerOk. That’s fine As long as you understand it doesn’t make sense for your female equivalent to put in the work to be ideal for you just to get an average ugly man, And that explains why no can find what they want in a partner | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 07:17 PM |
| 0 | The hate for single moms comes from jealousy.I’m in the US in an upper social class where men are independently shamed from being deadbeats. You can’t seem to understand that women are not responsible for the behavior of men. It isn’t women’s jobs to make sure you are a good father. You have an independent responsibility, many people fail at that responsibility but it doesn’t make it any less their own responsibility Single mothers are women who had sex and just didn’t get an abortion. That’s it. Every woman I know is happily married to a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 07:15 PM |
| 2 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerI’m going to be honest here, as much as I’m not red pill, the amount of women who are nitpicking that a mega hot, commitment minded, demi- god with a heart of gold who is generous, brave and self sacrificing isnt ‘ideal enough’ is alarming to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 06:19 PM |
| 0 | The hate for single moms comes from jealousy.Life forcing you to be accountable is worse and more jarring than people holding you accountable. Why do “people” have to go out of their way to hold you accountable when you have to live through the fucked reality of your choices Why do you need to blame someone who is already the crappy consequences of their decisions. The natural consequences are enough. If there is a child the woman in question is taking responsibility she is making the best of a bad situation, if the man isn’t taking respon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 06:14 PM |
| 2 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerI very much have the ability to grasp it. I do not respect how non western cultures treat women and I will not give credence to how their typically religiously tainted views of 'self restraint' are covers for oppressing women. We, in the west, are not raising out daughters for the sole reason of growing up to having relationships with men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 04:47 PM |
| 4 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerIt is not objective reality that having a family is better than anything else lol I say that as a happily married woman with a family. Having a husband and family mean absolutely nothing if it is not the kind of husband you want and a family on your terms in context of the life you want Comments like yours are why I'm genuinely happy more younger women are opting out of both | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 04:33 PM |
| 4 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerI have never met a (non religious parent) who wanted their daughter to limit her own experiences sexually or otherwise so they could be more committed to their husband or satisfied in their relationship As a parent this is absolutely a red flag and all the fathers I know would agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 04:27 PM |
| 1 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerThis is an overly granular read of super hero as the ideal. Could be Prince Charming, whatever Its hard to argue that women don't prefer an extremely attractive, uniquely endowed, prince/god like creature who aspires for goodness and loves them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 04:23 PM |
| 2 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerBefore the super hero aspect of it if it makes you feel better A tall, hot, brave, kind, charismatic, funny, generous, successful man is not women's ideal? Really | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 04:17 PM |
| 6 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerIts not e demonization of male sexuality, it is showing the things men value are only things men value whereas you women value things that every one values You should ask yourself why even parents and children would prefer to have the son/father or the man describes more than they would want to have the daughter/mother of the woman described | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 04:15 PM |
| 4 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerYou fail to recognize your definition of a great woman is self serving, as you said you want someone to love and care for you But that helps no one but you You dont get to define what a great outcome by women is. That's the point. Women have to define that themselves and men's ideal does not great women a great outcome for their lives, Women's ideal does men get a great outcome for their lives as defined by men Furthermore, if you think having well raised well taken care of children is the best … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 04:11 PM |
| 1 | The hate for single moms comes from jealousy.Single moms are RASING A CHILD ALONE. How much more accountability can one take than this. It is just strange to want or need a group of people who are doing a very hard and important job to also feel bad about themselves while doing it. People are or should be responsible for their children. If the woman is raising the child and the man is not the man is a deadbeat, he has an obligation to his child independent of the Childs mother | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 04:00 PM |
| -1 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerThe man women want men to become is good for the man himself, and also society The woman men want women to become is bad for the woman herself, and also society | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 03:50 PM |
| 9 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partner> but I think it's usually women don't want to be the ideal woman in society because they are not desperate to date men. Women don't want to be men's ideal because men's ideal is ONLY men's ideal. It is not society's ideal, that is the point. If everyman succeeded in being women's ideal, soceity would be happy, including men If women succeeded in being men's ideal no one would be happy except for men, that's the difference | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 03:48 PM |
| 0 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerIn what ways do superheroes prioritize themselves? The whole point of superheroes is they are self-sacrificing to a fault. It is not accurate that women prefer Loki over Thor | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 03:45 PM |
| 1 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyI'm a woman Being very attracted to a man who is not particularly objectively attractive and married and not pursing you is... odd | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyThis is more about private acceptance than public shaming Some women online not liking certain behavior is different than the realize that most women still understand that certain behaviors are just common with men and part of dating Men increasingly have an issue accepting the inverse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 12:56 PM |
| 3 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyThank you for explaining it. It use to be universally understood that the way you talked to women was different, this was understood and accepted by everyone Now men en masse are acting angry and lied to that women are different than men and generally require speaking to in different ways | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 12:55 PM |
| 4 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyMen are increasingly moving the goalposts There has been been a society in history that the reason women are with their man is because he is attractive. Being 'attractive or being loved has always been a holistic measure to include your personality, how you make someone feel etc If you want a woman to be above all viscerally sexually attracted to you. You need to be viscerally sexually attractive. If you are not hot women are not going to think you are hot. You can overcome not being hot by bein… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 03:22 AM |
| 5 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyI understood the point you were trying to make with the cowboy, what you seem to miss is that it's perfectly reasonable to want 'a cowbo'y and dismiss all other men who do not fit that artetype. It is not about being pre-baked it is about being compatible There are billions of people on earth, if you are looking for one, than yes many women are looking for that perfect person *who fits all your boxes. When I was single, I wasn't looking for a caricature and I wasn't looking for someone who would… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 03:14 AM |
| 5 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyThe girl you like wants to find someone who is naturally the man she likes. If she likes cowboys, yes she wants to find a cowboy, she actually doesn't want you to become a cowboy for her. You aren't compatible for her There is vague advice and specific advice; because you want vague advice, the best vague advice for men is always going to be; become the most attractive, charismatic, sociable, successful purpose driven version of yourself you can be. Be as interesting and as dynamic and as likabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/25 08:54 PM |
| 4 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyShort men are generally considered less pshyically attractive than their taller counterparts, that is true Short men can work on other aspects of themselves to increase themselves as an attractive total package, even if their height is less than ideal Short men or any unconventionally unattractive men can also date fat/unconventionally unattractive women who are the best each other can do and who genuinely attractive people find below their league There seems to be a lot of men who are not objec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/25 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyFeminism is a political fight for equals rights red pill is a dating strategy strange comparison. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/25 12:35 PM |
| 12 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyNot being someone’s ideal preference does not equal it being impossible to date And that’s where the disconnect comes in. Do women prefer tall men absolutely. But people date others who aren’t their absolute preference all the time Is dating harder for short men absolutely, it is impossible for short men, generally not. Short men can compensate for being short. There are dwarfs in relationships after all, but you need to worker harder than average men or chad and a lot of men don’t want to Accep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/25 12:00 AM |
| 2 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyThe reason side eye the body count issue is bc most successful men don’t actually care about it Every man I’ve ever dated has slept with more people than me and wouldn’t dare ask me my number bc he doesn’t want to talk about his The body count conversation is mostly hypothetical so the only people having it are men talking about the girls they would and wouldn’t date in some alternate reality, men actually dating women don’t care | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 10:32 PM |
| 2 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyI don’t think wanting sex is some unreasonable request in a relationship I also don’t think wanting someone who can provide for you and the children you have together is an unreasonable request in a relationship The question is if women can cope with men’s desire for the form why can’t men cope with women’s desire for the latter | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 10:24 PM |
| 6 | Men are not more upfront than women be for realWhat is it with men and the need to get women to admit something that can be seen by all with the naked eye? It’s truly bizarre. Women aren’t lying they just assume men aren’t abject idiots and don’t need it spelled out to them that women want Prince Charming | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 10:05 PM |
| 2 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyI was being simplistic to demonstrate my point I do think helping women navigate men is helpful to all involved but it isn’t as simple as picking someone honest over picking someone exciting. first because all kinds of men lie (the boring and exciting ones alike and because someone being honest isn’t actually enough to make them likable or worth being in a relationship with A man whose only positive characteristics is not abusive, is not a good guy either What makes dating hard for men and for w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 09:51 PM |
| 6 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyHow many 25 year old men do you tell to stop going after cute 25 year old women when they could go after more practical more honest older women? Valuing or being blindsided by the “wrong parts of personality” is literally part of being young and figuring out dating. It isn’t a lack of introspection, it’s just not a reasonable thing to encourage women to date men they find boring that they don’t like and the only reason men even suggest such things is because they can’t cope with the fact that wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 09:09 PM |
| 5 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyYoh and many men seem to want women to be the arbitrators of goodness, as oppose to regular humans Why do you expect women especially young women to devalue excitement for something practical. Since when are people in their twenties known for that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 08:40 PM |
| 10 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyWomen also want to rule out large swaths of the dating pool, they are looking for one man generally As far as being direct, I need to challenge the idea that not drawing someone a map is lying to them with any type of manage Whenever I go out to a restaurant and have a mediocre meal and the waiter asks if I enjoyed it I say yes, thank you. Am I lying? Most people don’t believe that’s a material enough lie I’m not sure women are telling men what they are looking for in order to make themselves lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 05:35 PM |
| 0 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologySure but the equivalent of teen girls listening to and accepting Eminem in the 2000s is the equivalent to young men listening to 'no broke boys and city girls in the 2020's We need to ask ourselves why young girls could sing and dance and have a good time to Eminem singing about killing his wife but young men can't have a good time to '8 inches 8 figures that my type' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 03:53 PM |
| 4 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyThe equivalent truths are for coexisting with and dating along side of not sex You are deciding something of value to you (free sex) and deciding it should be valuable to others Free access to sex with averagely attractive men has no value to women so the fact that they have access to it, is meaningless | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyYou are singling women out for having a preference that isnt a female preference its a social preference held by a lot of people People with status, money success etc are more sought out in general for jobs, opportunities, friendships, relationships everything My point is its naive to think it wouldn't or should matter with women when it literally matters socially | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 03:47 PM |
| -6 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologylol it is not worse and the fact that you think its worse or in any way different proves you pathologize women for doing what men do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 03:44 PM |
| 3 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyIm not talking about branches of feminism, I'm talking about actual women. How many women dating today don't understand men are motivated by sex and will lie cheat and steal to get it. Even 90 year old women understand this. Women understand this don't like it but always expect that in the course of dating they will encounter men who will lie for sex Do you think an equal amount of men understand that many women like money and attention for instance, and have a similar 'it sucks but it is what i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 03:41 PM |
| 4 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyId argue that men seem more unable to handle the truths that women exhibit that you outline above. But I agree they happen and are relatively normal things to happen Hopefully men dont over pathologize that behavior and understand it sucks but its part of dating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 03:32 PM |
| 8 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyok? men lying about their intentions trying to get sex is also damaging But women are still expected to navigate it. Even if it's damaging why can't you navigate it. How are women able to understand that if youre dating you will probably get your heart broken but many men can't? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 03:28 PM |
| 19 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyI appreciate the honesty, However, my question is this: why is it considered so terrible to just observe the truth and then navigate around it? What is the need in having "the unassailable truth explained to you perfectly" or else you feel betrayed. As a woman, it's not that we get a comprehensive guide on all the ways some men can be shity. I think women understand they will get their heart broken and manipulated and lied to and that's a crappy but but not unexpected part of dating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 03:26 PM |
| 0 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyNot true--men are the one who think a bad personality is always a moral judgement Someone who is misogynistic has a bad personality Someone who is boring or uninteresting also has a bad personality There are a million ways to have a bad personality all of which are not youre a terrible person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 03:17 PM |
| 13 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyI agree with a lot of the spirit of what you wrote. But still you are patholoigizing women instead of just accepting that men and women communicate differently > Guys opinions tend to be direct, honest, and reflect their actual actions IRL. Women don't You're framing mens directness as a positive (aka honest, reflective) where as a woman, a lot of this behavior just reads as socially inept behavior. I don't view a man who says no fat chicks/no single moms as "honest and reflective, I view him as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 03:08 PM |
| -1 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologythe 4b is a tiny movement redpil/manesphere is bigger | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 02:49 PM |
| 3 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyWomen do understands this in practice though, its why women outside of podcasts dont really broadcasts their bodycount and why 20 somethings are starting to get botox | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 02:48 PM |
| -1 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyI do understand the distinction, but its not relevant to premise Women understand men are attracted to womens bodies. Women understand this fully, it's why 12 year olds start shaving their legs and 20 year olds are now getting botox. Women may not like it but they have gotten with the program Men can't seem to cope with the fact that women are attracted to men's money/success. Men have convinced themselves one is reasonable and the other is a pathology, they both equally reasonable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 02:46 PM |
| 11 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyIt isn't contradiction though its nuance, the world has a plurality of truths. Acting like there is only one truth and it is true all the time is outrageously immature, and If adult men are expecting all women to always act in a certain way, or else they were lied to, then men are acting immaturely In a situation where an attractive guy display signs of shitty behaviors, you would expect that women would play it safe and discard this dude. We all know it doesn't work that way: attractiveness bit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 02:17 PM |
| -1 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologythank you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 01:41 PM |
| 6 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyProving my point, but okay | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 01:41 PM |
| 1 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyThese men are mistaking being assholes with women trying to control them. Women don't like it when men say asshole things; virtually no women actually care/accept that fat women/single women/super slutty women are less publicly desirable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 01:40 PM |
| 4 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyThese are online echo chamber behaviors not widespread actual behaviors It fundamentally isn't true that most women think men who don't want to date fat women are bigoted Women don't think men should dehumanize and degrade fat women, which men seem keen to do to obese women for existing Look at the comments on an obese woman on instagram, the men are degrading her, if men left her alone there would be no issue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 01:38 PM |
| -2 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyIm not talking strictly about dating In life, people care about how much money other people make Parents, strangers you meet, co-workers etc evaluate money status, etc and treat people accordingly Society doesn't treat poor men and rich men the same, not just women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 01:34 PM |
| -1 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyNo they aren't, you are thinking only of dating In social and familial settings "people" in general care. Cousins, friends, co workers, etc of both sexes will note others money, looks, and status and treat them accordingly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 01:31 PM |
| 6 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyYou’re the one who used the word girl not woman More men think women are gold diggers for liking money Than women think men are pedophiles for finding college women attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 04:13 AM |
| 7 | Women accept men’s uncomfortable truths, while many men turn normal female behavior into a pathologyAbsolutely agree and kind of my point Caring about money, looks, status etc are human things. Are they noble things to care about not but it’s extremely common to care about those things and pretending like women are worse because of it is silly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 04:06 AM |
| 0 | You cannot fix problems which do not exist.Your comment is cope. Most single mothers are not due to sperm diners and death Men abandoning and not being involved in their children’s life is not a statistical rarity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/25 12:29 PM |
| 0 | You cannot fix problems which do not exist.Men who aren’t involved in their children’s lives are lazy fathers Women raising children alone isn’t rare thus lazy fathers are not rare | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/25 01:56 AM |
| 1 | You cannot fix problems which do not exist.20% of mothers are single mothers. Are you genuinely trying to claim those 20% of men are as active parents as the mother | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/25 12:38 AM |
| 17 | Would You Take a Man's Treatment Without Becoming One?I don’t doubt your experience but a great deal of what makes women’s experiences difficult is biological being a woman without periods, without the fear or reality of pregnancy and without being physically weaker than men is basically saying being a woman is easier without doing the things that make being a woman harder Especially given that I imagine in dating few men expect you to perform the same exact labor women are expected to perform because most men who date transgender women are more li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/25 03:17 PM |
| 0 | Why are Men are obligated to pay but women are not obligated todo anything?Because men aren’t discriminatory and will swipe right on every woman. Women are trying to screen for men who are at the bare levels interested in them and willing to pay for the date demonstrates an entry level amount of tangible interests Additionally, men will always pay for dates for women they like/find attractive and paying for dates helps ensure a man isn’t going on 20 dates a month (which is what men would do if they could) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 02:13 PM |
| – | Please stop telling men they are single because they lack a social life or have bad social skillsHe is lacking. He doesn’t have enough positives to make someone want to date him Youre mistiake is trying to over equate “good traits” to moral ones | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 01:15 PM |
| – | Please stop telling men they are single because they lack a social life or have bad social skillsNothing you said contradicts what women are saying Attraction is about being hot. Plenty of women have no problem admitting you don’t need to be nice to be considered hot Having a good personality is about being likable. Women are not church parishioners and being good means doing positive likable things that mean people want to be around you. There’s nothing to admit here. The male equivalent of the women you described aren’t good guys they have nothing positive that equates to them being good.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 12:32 PM |
| 6 | Apparently women turn “demisexual” around average menIt’s the female equivalent of when a woman says she wants her man to think she’s the most beautiful girl in the world It’s a fine thing to give lip service to but needing your man to think you’re the prettiest girl he’s ever seen is mental. Women need to get over that childish desire if they want to be partnered Same goes for men. If you need to be the hottest man your partner has ever seen then you probably need to get over that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/25 08:20 PM |
| 3 | Apparently women turn “demisexual” around average menThere’s no contradiction here Why are men unable to understand that individual men are different and will thus make individual men feel diffferently Some men will make some women want to fuck then immediately Most men won’t There’s no ploy going on. It’s like deciding your on a diet and then someone makes your favorite pie and it’s irresitible to you and now the calories are worth it It’s not a strange phenomenon and it’s not something only applied to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/25 12:38 PM |
| 4 | More men aren't single because they have "bad personalities"Can I ask why this was surprisingly to you though? Isn’t this exactly the same way men evaluate prospects Isn’t it obvious that better looking people can get away with more and uglier people need to get better personalities to be tolerable This doesn’t seem like an issue of red/blue pill this seems like common sense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 10:42 PM |
| – | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesI’m married but more and more women are sticking to no man, which given your statement you should be happy about | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesOk? So the ugly person shouldn’t be angry that no one wants to date them because they are ugly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesGay people have a right to pursue other gay people they don’t have the right to have another gay person provided for them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 08:08 PM |
| 0 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesSo many men are talking about grinding from the financial perspective when my post was every bit about the social perspective Prioritizing going out with friends, having friends over to order pizza, going to the park etc stuff that doesn’t have to be extremely expensive But working and putting effort into something If it isn’t worth it to work or push yourself socially…the question remains. What are men doing instead If they are happy doom scrolling more power to you but you can’t simultaneously… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesNothing ever guarantees anything ever Hunny | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 08:04 PM |
| 2 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesthat’s fine but I don’t understand the complaint then Women aren’t worth the effort so men don’t want to put in the effort Men aren’t putting in the effort so women are stepping back from sex and relationships Yet so many men complaining indicates they want something to be different but they don’t want to do what is necessary to make it different | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 02:36 PM |
| 2 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesThey would also live to 35 Hard work is the norm for human history and survival the reward You like this is a feminist construction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 01:19 PM |
| -1 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesPart of my comment was about socializing and putting the work in there My grandparents worked themselves to the bone. My parents did too. Most of the immigrants to come to this country work extremely hard to survive It’s fine if you don’t want to grind but the fact that so much men don’t expect to work hard is insane. How are people complaining about costs if they aren’t even grinding | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 12:40 PM |
| 0 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesHow is it only about looks? Op said he is ugly, it wouldn’t make sense for him to pair with someone attractive You are the one who think looks matter so much if you think this commenter should be going after attractive girls | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 12:34 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesDo people not understand the point of Maslows hierarchy is to quite literally differentiate from essential needs at the bottom to ‘those things that help us flourish at the top’ The top of the pyramid contains nice to haves not needs to have: are you arguing that achieving self actualization and reaching your full potential is a need You are a grown man not a baby. Babies need affection from their mothers they do not need sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 12:31 PM |
| -2 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesRead a fucking book. This take is insane | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 12:21 PM |
| 0 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesI mentioned heterosexual sex is not a need because if you feel love and sex is a need there are many ways you could fill that that don’t involve women There is no way you have a human need for access to a vagina | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 12:18 PM |
| 1 | Is Working a Blue Collar Job a Death Sentence for Male Datinf?Driving a train is cooler than being a plumber but being a plumber is probably the ‘uncoolest job there is so it’s a weird comparison | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 12:15 PM |
| 3 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesThis drama is why you’re having trouble with women No one hates you for acknowledging sex is not a need pursuit of happiness my friend. no one is stopping you from pursuing it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 04:59 AM |
| -1 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesYou didn’t realize women weren’t the effort You tried at something and weren’t successful at it Most men are motivated to not be lifelong virgins but to each their own | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 04:58 AM |
| -5 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesYour ancestors worked day and night without running water and regular access to food for the reward of surviving You are not working harder and harder give me a break | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 04:55 AM |
| 0 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesWhy do so many men think they are producing for the economy and not themselves My professional friends work so they can afford to do the things they like not to benefit 'the economy' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 04:27 AM |
| 0 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesTo confirm you aren't interested in dating/ if you are dating you're getting the results you want Obviously if your approach isnt broken no need to fix it but it you wanted better results, investing time and money into something is a good place to start | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 04:25 AM |
| 2 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesYou mean for men Men deciding to kill themselves or other people when they dont get what they want doesn't make it a human need | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 04:22 AM |
| -5 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesSex is not a human need And heterosexual sex is damn sure not a human need | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 04:16 AM |
| 1 | Is Working a Blue Collar Job a Death Sentence for Male Datinf?You keep saying that your job is cool but I don’t know a single woman who would view it that way. A lot of women might be fine with it but you seem to want her to be excited about you driving a train specifically, which is likely what you’re problem is I’m white collar and when I was single didn’t consider blue collar workers but I can’t imagine pink collar women and women whose family works blue collar jobs wouldn’t be fine/happy with it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 04:06 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesIm a millenial You don’t need to buy a home but if it’s important to you…. young women are still buying homes The mortgage payment on a 400k home is 2500. It’s not some insurmountable number if you work hard and especially if you get a partner Less than what I was paying for rent pre covid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 02:37 AM |
| 0 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesIf you don’t see more as better than why are men lamenting that women are earning more, buying homes more, getting educated more and getting more dating options If you don’t view those things as better that’s great but please stop the vitriol about women having more choice, because women are also doing more work | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 01:42 AM |
| 2 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesHunny, You MAKE the social game. You have to cultivate the friends and the relationships and plan the events if you want the social game to be worthwhile Do you understand the implication of not doing those things and making that effort. No friendships, relationships, sex and experiences? Why are you willing to forgo that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 01:40 AM |
| 0 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesLiterally said I’m a millennial, probably ten years older than you lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 01:38 AM |
| 0 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesAre you going for ugly girls? In the real world and not just on apps? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 01:38 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesWhile I partially want to commend you for what you’re doing there’s a trade off to not spending ANY money enjoying your life now I’m not saying the trade off won’t be worth it to you but worth noting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 01:34 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesThank you for understanding my point So many gen z acting like no one understands them economically when many millennials came of age in the aftermath of 2008 The difference was that we did exactly as you prescribed. I’m not advocating spending your money taking women to Ibiza but the generation of men before them did spend money on women in the form of hosting parties, grabbing food at hole in the wall places, buying well shots out and…. A time was had by all So many men were blasting my observ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 01:29 AM |
| -7 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesIt’s so interesting to me how all the men’s comments are doom and gloom and all the women know what I’m talking about Men are increasingly pathologizing hard work…it’s interesting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 01:13 AM |
| -7 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesWe graduated in the aftermath of the financial crisis. Shit is always happening The fact that it’s harder doesn’t mean you need to give up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesThank you. This is the honest answer So many people talking about the economy act as if the economy has never been bad before. We graduated in the aftermath of 2008 there were no jobs. My undergrad costs 40k even then The issue now is that some men (and women) see other people having it easier and can’t cope with the fact that that isn’t their life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 01:09 AM |
| 0 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesSo it’s a chicken or the egg thing with dating essentially You don’t feel motivated by woman At the same time if I was a young married woman today, given the defeatist attitude of men, I’d opt of of dating too So the cycle just continues | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 01:04 AM |
| 0 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesEvery man is saying the same things, it’s too hard Meanwhile every woman here seems to understand that pushing yourself, especially while you are young is completely reasonable Its scary how defeatist and comfort drive young men becoming | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 01:01 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesWhat a weird defeatist ass attitude Do you want the lives the women have? Why do you care what women are doing unless you want what women get which is dick If you do not want women or conventional success of a robust social life, don’t pursue them but the amount of men seriously asking the question ‘why should I work as hard as I can to get what I want out of life is insane | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 12:56 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesHow old are you and why weren’t you also dating while you were grinding | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 12:52 AM |
| -2 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesExactly I’m a woman and I also did it. It’s telling that so many men here are saying it’s too much work it isn’t worth it all while their female counterparts ***are doing it any making it work. The idea that you shouldn’t push yourself. That being tired is always a bad thing ***in your twenties is a big reason men are falling behind in dating and in life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 12:49 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesPeople never pull all nighers studying? Never to finish a project? Never wake up for 6 am baseball practice? Stay up all night for months with a baby This idea that you should never exhaust yourself is insane The idea that you can have a good life and me comfortable every moment throughout it is insane The dating crisis is caused more than anything by people not putting in the work to inconvience themselves to reach their goals | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/25 11:02 PM |
| -5 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesHow entitled are you to think you did any of that for anyone but yourself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/25 09:46 PM |
| -1 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesBy spending money on women doesn’t mean flying women to Ibiza it does mean beers. Yes 10 years ago men spent their money on being social including things to be around women That’s not bait the fact that 10 years later men consider that rage worthy is a large part of why they are less social and under sexed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/25 09:37 PM |
| -1 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesHow old are you and what are you doing with your money instead ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/25 08:08 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesFor sure it’s not exclusive to gen z but there does seem to be this attitude of ‘I’m not spending my time and money’ if I’m not guaranteed success and that really isn’t how it works Sure the climate has changed but a lot of the men have changed too So many young men saying they don’t want to spend their money on women but that’s a foreign thing for a young 20 something to say 10 years ago, after all what else would a 23 year old spend their money on??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/25 08:07 PM |
| 4 | Men need to be a compilation of masculine and feminine traits in order to be successful in relationships and they are having trouble grasping that fact> There is no forced sex or childbirth, and abortions are perfectly acceptable (which is good). So yes, women's roles are destroyed here. These roles are not destroyed for women in relationships. The in relationships was implied here as men don't have any gender roles outside of relationships and interactions with women either. aka men here claim that men are socially still expected to be the provider but no one is walking up to single men and asking them to provide, they can only 'provide' in r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 07:45 PM |
| 10 | Telling people to be single is a form of mate suppressionThis has nothing to do with not caring about men. In order to enjoy the benefits of partnership someone has to want to partner with you. If no one wants to partner with these men, people advise these men to learn to be content single because that’s the best option in their situation not because it’s the best option period | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 06:30 PM |
| 0 | Men need to be a compilation of masculine and feminine traits in order to be successful in relationships and they are having trouble grasping that fact> Because you seem to have forgotten that in this case, women were able to abandon their passive, traditionally feminine role while also adopting some of the characteristics of men. > Meanwhile, men aren't allowed (even according to your post) to renounce their active, traditionally masculine role, as women have. This is where I think the real disconnect is. You say here that women have abandoned their gender role and I dont agree. The traditional part of womens gender roles is sex and babies Wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 04:38 PM |
| -4 | Men need to be a compilation of masculine and feminine traits in order to be successful in relationships and they are having trouble grasping that factRead what I wrote again, these things help you all else being equal. To be in a successful relationship you generally need two things: attributes that sexually attractive, attributes that make the partnership attractive, those attributes fall under the latter | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 04:04 PM |
| -2 | Men need to be a compilation of masculine and feminine traits in order to be successful in relationships and they are having trouble grasping that factMost women in relationships in work? How are men providing for women if the women work? How do most men protect? Married/coupled women aren't really more 'protected' then single women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 04:02 PM |
| 6 | Men need to be a compilation of masculine and feminine traits in order to be successful in relationships and they are having trouble grasping that fact> But none of it really means anything if you don't already hit all the traditionally expected gender roles of what a man is traditionally supposed to be. I genuinely appreciate your comment and to be clear I agree with this. And that is precisely my point. Men are not as good at being women as women are, just as women are not going to be as good at being men as men are. In a romantic relationship this means that there's simply no reason to date a man who has nothing masculine about him as he is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 03:52 PM |
| -5 | Men need to be a compilation of masculine and feminine traits in order to be successful in relationships and they are having trouble grasping that factWomen do generally balance masculine and feminine in relationships though The most traditional aspects that men have provided in relationships; protection and provision, men don't provide anymore Men aren't even doing the hard men shit, why would women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 03:41 PM |
| 3 | Women should compete for the Provider Position If they feel Men Have It Easier.> Then take that same woman and put her up against a new guy she's attracted to sexually. Think she'll care about the dishes not being done, house not being cleaned, etc. before having sex with him? She won't So? You are phrasing this as a dirty little secret and it's not. You think the husband telling his wife he doesn't have the money to take her to Paris wouldn't find the money if Sydney Sweeny popped up and asked him? You don't think he'd just put it on his credit card unconcerned if he woul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 02:07 PM |
| 4 | Women should compete for the Provider Position If they feel Men Have It Easier.You misunderstand women's sexuality especially in relationships If men are having a bad/boring day they often want to distract themselves with sex at the end of the day to feel better Women need to be already having a good day to want to have sex. A day where you went to work and then make dinner and clean and put the kids to bed is a day you want to end with sleep not sex A tired woman with a house full of kids and a sink full of dishes is going to forget about sex half the time It has nothing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 01:19 PM |
| 4 | Women should compete for the Provider Position If they feel Men Have It Easier.People misunderstand this concept. It isn’t that the man doing the work turns women off, it’s the less she has to do she’s more likely to get turned on Women don’t care if you do the work yourself; if you hired a house cleaner twice a week, your partner would be more turned on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 12:18 PM |
| 5 | Would you date a bi man?No no no. Generally women are looking for reasons to screen men out of their dating pool and there’s no real compelling reason (for me at least) to say yes when theres plenty of men who haven’t had those experiences | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/25 03:06 PM |
| 3 | Would you date a bi man?The reasoning is she’s straight so she prefers someone who is also straight Not complicated | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/25 03:01 PM |
| 3 | If a Younger Woman With an Older Man Is “After His Money,” Then an Older Woman Should Be Even Moredo you think older women have better personalities than younger women? Probably not. Young women think the same about older men. Ask a group of 20 year olds if they think 40 year olds are more interesting, probably not Older men dont get credit for building on their life experiences because they are suppose to be accomplished | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/25 03:40 AM |
| 2 | If a Younger Woman With an Older Man Is “After His Money,” Then an Older Woman Should Be Even Morebecause older women have different priorities and make more sense as long term partners | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/25 03:35 AM |
| 19 | What are the main ways in which men are lacking these days which is causing them to stay perpetually single?This is very insightful. For women, it’s also the first time in history they are even acting the question: why do I want this man and what do relationships do for me. Until recently it was status quo to get partnered up and so women were forced to choose the best option and now they are considering no option I think the reality is a lot of men don’t add anything positive to women’s lives and they don’t want to do the work to add something, and while that can be harsh it also appears to be true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/25 11:53 PM |
| 2 | If a Younger Woman With an Older Man Is “After His Money,” Then an Older Woman Should Be Even MoreBecause to a young woman virtually the only thing a man that age can have of value is money Without the money older men don’t have any advantage over younger men and are thus not preferred except for money | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/25 11:42 PM |
| 0 | If a Younger Woman With an Older Man Is “After His Money,” Then an Older Woman Should Be Even MoreBecause to a young woman virtually the only thing a man that she can have of value is money | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/25 11:40 PM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingIf women are necessarily the primary parent by biology that is still a value they provide that men must compensate for in some other area It doesn’t matter if most women want to stay home while their husband works if most men aren’t making enough to have their wives stay home If she works AND is the primary parent she’s doing a lot/too much. So men either need to make enough so she can focus on parenting. Or parent/ perform household labor equal to the effort she is putting in | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 01:18 PM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingFeel free to elaborate on examples of unique male value here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 01:13 PM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingThis is such a weirdly strange low bar. You think being confident is an oppressive gender role. You are proving men don’t want to do anything in relationships and want to be cared for anyway. Bald women who don’t dress feminine, present feminine or have any positive femeonine attributes struggle in relationships too. Why are grown men who want a feminine woman upset they have to have a semblance of masculine traits | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 01:11 PM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingWhy do you say that in this instance men are still expected to provide? How many families are duel income where the man pays for everything for the man woman and children? It seems a lot of men don’t understand what a provider man IS a provider man pays for each and everything all the time These men almost don’t exist and most masculine provider men don’t want to settle down in their early twenties because they have options themselves. But madculine men who can afford housewives have no problem … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 01:04 PM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingAll else being equal why wouldn’t the women have the most interest in the highest earning men. The stat you provided doesn’t refute anything I said This is especially true if women don’t have anything additional to go on and the lower income men are not statistically more likely to compensate for them lack of income in anyway and expect the women to work and perform usual feminine duties why would she pick him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 12:20 AM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingMost of what you said isn’t relevant to relationships The woman expects the man to make more than her **because she has to do other things in addition to working. Men who cook clean plan social activities and nurture kids and foster community like women do don’t need to make more than them But if women are expected to do more in the family and around the house obviously men will need to make more money | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 12:07 AM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingWomen in relationships haven’t abandoned their gender roles Single men aren’t exactly Fulfilling their gender role either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 10:03 PM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingYou ask what men’s incentive is: men keep bemoaning they are lonely and want women, that is their incentive. And it’s not remotely unsolvable being umc men are doing both and largely getting married. Making money AND development domestic and social organization skills and eiq is increasingly a pre requisite for women, because men who don’t do these things (or other things to compensate for it) are not worth being in a relationship with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 07:56 PM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingDoes your brother have a problem with having a stay at home wife or is it just you who doesn't like his arrangement If your brother works 48 hours a week what sense would it make for your sister in law to be on 24/7 when your brother doesn't have to be? It's likely that he steps in to give her a break from the kids and she probably often takes the kids when he's not working to give him a break from both. Your sister in law slikely upports your brother and the family in ways it's not easy for you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 05:55 PM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingThey aren't taking the jobs because they are expected to though. They are taking the jobs because they want the $$$ same as every other person and every other job | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 05:03 PM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingIt is exhausting, no debate there. But women are also doing it. They too are caring for kids and earning money (and birthing said kids to boot) So men neither need to do both because she is doing both. or do one aka provide 100% financially etc so she can focus on the latter It's exhausting for both parties either way, but at least its a real division of labor | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 05:00 PM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingMen are freed from gender roles. No one is making men do anything in general Adults in relationships have to do something, you stop contributing in one dymantic you have to contribute in another | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 04:54 PM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingThank you! You also raise excellent points -low testosterone hybrid is the perfect way to put it. Men are fetishizing womanhood and think being a woman is just being lusted after and doing nothing-they don't understand what femininity does and cultivates and they don't want to lean into the positive traits of either gender. Then they blame being left behind on women when its the result of them not actively pursuing anything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 04:26 PM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingAnd in those couples the men aren't expected to split 50% of the child rearing, social planning and housework In your first post you stated that men are doing their traditional job plus additional work, that's not true. Men who provide 100% financially for their family are not splitting childcare 50/50 with their stay at home wives | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 04:15 PM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingIn couples where the couple wants a family women are expected to be the prime parent and work Women absolutely have a gender role per my entire post | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 04:03 PM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingValue can be a multitude of things. Money is value leadership is value competence is value sexual prowess is value. Remembering to send her mother flowers on her birthday is value, making the kids Christmas list is value keeping track of the family doctor appointments and following up is value Too often (in this sub at least) men complain about having to demonstrate value in the traditional sense (money, initiative etc) they don’t want to provide that kind of value which is fine but they never m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 04:01 PM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingYou misunderstood, career is not the base of the package for what men look for in women, still a good career will add to the woman's overall package for many men In the same way--having traditionally feminine attributes won't be enough to attract women. You'll need to attract them with traditionally male attributes first but, also being good at traditionally feminine things will add to your other all package | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 01:49 PM |
| 8 | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingPerforming those roles in addition to masculine roles is a turn on for most women. In the same way that being an attractive career woman is a plus for men but the career adds to the package, it is not the base for the package | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 01:24 PM |
| -1 | Do men genuinely want to return to traditional gender roles ?This still feels disingenuous Women are allowed to forsake gender roles and not provide traditional feminine value in society this is true But women still need to uphold gender roles and be feminine **in order be be valued by/ have relationships with men Women who don’t exhibit any traditionally feminine traits, cut their hair short, don’t cultivate a stereotypically feminine appearance, don’t want to be mothers, don’t want to have intercourse, don’t exhibit any nurturing are allowed to exist in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/25 06:12 PM |
| 1 | 30 year old women hitting the wall and regretting things won’t change anything for men.A large percentage of men aren’t wanted by anyone by your definition all of those men aren’t in anyone’s league | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 01:20 PM |
| 4 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highGot it. Asking because I don’t think it’s unusual for a woman to not have shown too much interest proactively ( a lot of women wait for the man to make the first move) but i would find it strange if absolutely no one reciprocated your interests If you haven’t tried it, I’d try being intentional and fun in your asks, aka asking women to do fun things and making it known that you have an enjoyable lifestyle (if you do) And focusing on similarly educated women will likely help you as well. A lot of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 09:38 PM |
| 4 | Do most guys never experience the "talk" with their parents about relationships?Curious what did your parents tell you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 09:27 PM |
| 7 | A lot of "dating problems" seem like "middle class" problems to me.Men here are constantly complaining about single mothers and fat women? (I’m American) Single mothers and fat women don’t exist in the upper class and use to be a providence of the lower; however we’re seeing this more in the lower middle/ middle class as well | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 07:35 PM |
| 3 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highWomen don’t care about how men they don’t want to date would evaluate them Also your brother probably isn’t the person to evaluate your physical attractiveness | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 06:10 PM |
| 2 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highIt’s about sacrificing a partner you actually want Picking a nice man willing to commit to you with great values means absolutely nothing if you don’t like him Your advise is good advice for a friendship (and if the man is comfortable living us friends that’s great) but this isn’t good advice for a romantic relationship, signed a happily married woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 06:08 PM |
| 5 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highYou dont need to be in the top 10% you could and men do work on other aspects of themselves to become attractive or interesting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 06:05 PM |
| 17 | A lot of "dating problems" seem like "middle class" problems to me.I agree except I believe a large part of the problem is the middle class is largely becoming lower class. Aka obesity and out of wedlock births were mostly prevalent in lower classes but are now seen in some middle class sects | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 06:03 PM |
| 1 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too high> “Same socioeconomic level as my family” Ok now we’re getting into possible trouble. What do you mean by this? You mention later on that your family provides you everything you need… are you expecting a guy to provide the lifestyle someone your parents’ age can? This is a good filter even though it would exclude a lot of men. If OP is living at a certain level a man who also isn't living at that level (for whatever reason is unlikely to be a good match for her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 05:44 PM |
| 3 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highWhen you say no woman has shown interest in you do you mean no woman has reciprocated your interest or no woman has initiated interest in you? Also (because I am surprised you haven't had more success and out of curiosity), top rated university like Ivy League or state school and what time of high paying Job) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 05:39 PM |
| 7 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highvery fucking weird thing to ask a member of your family | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 04:59 PM |
| 7 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highIt is so disgusting that your interpretation of that stat is that women ought to be supplying them with sex and not that men ought to be working hard to earn sex, incent women to have it, if it's that important to them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 04:55 PM |
| 10 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highThat's true, that's the difference between most men and women. Men think standards that disqualify most men are unfair and women intentionally want to disqualify most men to narrow their field | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 04:51 PM |
| 3 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highYou're not wrong. The only issue complicating things is sex. In a relationship without sex or where there is little expectation of sex it absolutely makes sense to prioritize the latter But the latter man (according to this sub_ wants to be looked at like he's the former and that causes issues There's a lot less fun for women for shagging men who aren't attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 04:50 PM |
| 3 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highNormal women absolutely wax and get laser hair removal. Where do you live where women have never gotten an eyebrow or bikini wax | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 02:52 PM |
| 1 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highYou clearly don’t understand the pain of laser hair removal, waxing, Botox And you don’t need a full transplant—male weaves and new hairpieces look great No one is making you do those things but don’t act like it’s an impossible ask or like it’s something women don’t do themselves | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 12:58 PM |
| 6 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highNo one has to do it you just need to accept that you’ll be considered less attractive than someone who does | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 12:53 PM |
| 7 | What do men mean when they say women's standards are too highAs she said, virtually ALL women do this. There are virtually no women who have never habilutally waxed or done laser, who cares if it’s expensive and time consuming, we do it why can’t you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/25 12:25 PM |
| 4 | 30 year old women hitting the wall and regretting things won’t change anything for men.Everything you listed is why you prefer 23 year olds to 30. Nothing you said toched on why it’s better for 23 year olds or that they get better men than 30 year old women do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/25 01:12 PM |
| 7 | 30 year old women hitting the wall and regretting things won’t change anything for men.Ok. If someone not wanting you means you aren’t in their league than 70% of men aren’t in anyone’s league either That doesn’t put her below being alone though lol. A lot of women including older women with children would rather be alone than settle too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/25 11:04 PM |
| 5 | 30 year old women hitting the wall and regretting things won’t change anything for men.While I don’t believe this is fundamentally true, again if these men don’t want these women that’s completely fine but it doesn’t really change the fact that they are often “matched” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/25 11:01 PM |
| 4 | 30 year old women hitting the wall and regretting things won’t change anything for men.I’m not claiming attractive interesting men with options end up dating women with kids But a woman who has value and then looses value by aging or having kids is still at the same value as a man who never had anything going for him in the first place No one is saying you need to date a single mom if you don’t want to but a 35 year old chubby single mom is the league of a lot of men who also don’t have much going for them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/25 08:59 PM |
| 4 | 30 year old women hitting the wall and regretting things won’t change anything for men.Correct, that is the average age of marriage. But your assertion is that women get the best guys younger, so it doesn’t matter when the average age of marriage is is matters when the best people are getting married not when are the average people getting married More educated and successful people tend to get married in their thirties as oppose to twenties so that’s one data point but there isn’t a ton of additional hard data so it’s hard to know | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/25 08:56 PM |
| 8 | 30 year old women hitting the wall and regretting things won’t change anything for men.What are you basing this assertion on? When I look at the women with the hottest, richest most enviable husbands they tended to meet their husbands older (mid twenties/30s not younger Where is the idea that women who marry younger get better husbands come from | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/25 08:10 PM |
| 6 | 30 year old women hitting the wall and regretting things won’t change anything for men.The average woman who gets married meeting her husband at 23-25 doesn’t equate to her having the best options though just the most average options We’d have to look at when the ‘best’ people get married not when the average person gets married to determine that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/25 07:09 PM |
| 14 | 30 year old women hitting the wall and regretting things won’t change anything for men.Women overwhelmingly have better options at 30 than 23 in large part because 23 year old women aren’t as good as deciphering what a better option is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/25 07:06 PM |
| 8 | 30 year old women hitting the wall and regretting things won’t change anything for men.You’re missing that a lot of those older women and single moms are the same league as an average man It’s very reasonable for you to want a lower risk woman. Women want lower risk men (more attractive, more successful, more charismatic) but when neither one of you have that much to offer you’re each others match | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/25 07:04 PM |
| 7 | Men are constantly told to change, be better, take women's needs into account in everything. Yet, if men dare to suggest that women do someting wrong and should change, it's just their "nature" to act that way.I mean it is comparatively frivolous, which isn’t to say it doesn’t matter but that it don’t not broach the level of something that can be gaurenteed to you. You say people need this. What if your touch, your kisses, your love your sex are revolting to the other person, does that play in at all. Why do you believe you’re entitled to these things at another persons expense As for the comparison. The patriarchy OPPrESSES women. We should not have systems which oppress people. Do you believe you ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/25 06:14 PM |
| 3 | Men are constantly told to change, be better, take women's needs into account in everything. Yet, if men dare to suggest that women do someting wrong and should change, it's just their "nature" to act that way.I mean it is comparatively frivolous, which isn’t to say it doesn’t matter but that it don’t not broach the level of something that can be gaurenteed to you. You say people need this. What if your touch, your kisses, your love your sex are revolting to the other person, does that play in at all. Why do you believe you’re entitled to these things at another persons expense As for the comparison. The patriarchy OPPrESSES women. We should not have systems which oppress people. Do you believe you ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/25 06:09 PM |
| 3 | Men are constantly told to change, be better, take women's needs into account in everything. Yet, if men dare to suggest that women do someting wrong and should change, it's just their "nature" to act that way.I’ll bite. Who is society in your example and what do they do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/25 05:55 PM |
| 8 | Men are constantly told to change, be better, take women's needs into account in everything. Yet, if men dare to suggest that women do someting wrong and should change, it's just their "nature" to act that way.In the grand scheme of things dating is a relatively frivolous issue. Let’s start there. Do you agree? Dating is not akin to having food or shelter or medicine etc. I don’t think it’s impossible that men are having trouble dating. I think it’s very possible and I think it’s very real. But you cannot solve men’s dating issues by making women who don’t like them, date them. As for fault— it’s less about fault and more about responsibility. If you aren’t dating the women you want you need to either… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/25 05:43 PM |
| 6 | Men are constantly told to change, be better, take women's needs into account in everything. Yet, if men dare to suggest that women do someting wrong and should change, it's just their "nature" to act that way.My god. How do you not understand those are things you are suppose to get from relationships you create and cultivate not from 'society' Why would 'society appreciate you? I'm a hot woman 'sOcEity' doesn't appreciate me. I wouldn't expect it to. My family and friends appreciate me when I do things worthy of appreciation. Society should provide me empathy/help if im being opressed. If im not being oppressed and I want empathy I need to create reciprocal relationships where I feel seen. Are you cl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/25 04:58 PM |
| 6 | Men are constantly told to change, be better, take women's needs into account in everything. Yet, if men dare to suggest that women do someting wrong and should change, it's just their "nature" to act that way.What men's issue am I diminishing. Are you genuinely trying to assert that women not being interested in dating you is a societal issue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/25 04:31 PM |
| 13 | Men are constantly told to change, be better, take women's needs into account in everything. Yet, if men dare to suggest that women do someting wrong and should change, it's just their "nature" to act that way.Tell me what you 'aren't getting from society and who is shitting on you. In your example women are just declining to date you Women saying you dont meet my standards I dont want to have a romantic relationship with you is not them in any way harming you or taking advantage of of you. How the hell does that make you want to revolt | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/25 04:06 PM |
| 13 | Men are constantly told to change, be better, take women's needs into account in everything. Yet, if men dare to suggest that women do someting wrong and should change, it's just their "nature" to act that way.> Therefore proving my point. Imagine if men said that "why should we end patriarchy when it benefits us"? Why should men do anything for women if women don't do anything for them? Actually you're proving WOMEN's point. Men try to equate not oppressing or infringing on women to making women cater to men, those aren't equal Women advise men to do the things you outlined to HELP MEN GET AND APPEAL TO WOMEN because their goal is to appeal to women because they WANT WOMEN. It is advice to help the m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/25 03:39 PM |
| -1 | Blue Pillers are feminists need to offer men a decent alternativeWhat did ending slavery do for white people? White people who ask that question are morally bankrupt The premise of your question is morally bankrupt Ending someone else’s oppression doesn’t need to offer you anything You shouldn’t need it to offer anything That men need women’s liberation to offer them something should explain to you why women are increasingly done with men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/25 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Women hurt themselves with their extremely high standards, not just the men.This seems to be the core difference of opinion between women and men here In the scenario where there aren’t enough men (or women ) who meet your criteria the solution women have is to opt out. We agree opting out is less preferred than being in a healthy relationship but if most of the men don’t meet criteria be them heroine addicts or otherwise a good and healthy relationship isn’t likely possible so the best scenario is to opt out which is increasingly what women are doing Men seem to think … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 06:09 PM |
| 3 | Women hurt themselves with their extremely high standards, not just the men.Why are you ignoring her very real option which is to date no one If most of the men are heroin addicts the best option for her is to swear off dating and men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 04:46 PM |
| 1 | This sub is an objectively bad example of what average men are like in real life because there’s over-representation of autistic/socially incompetent men hereYup | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 08:42 PM |
| 4 | This sub is an objectively bad example of what average men are like in real life because there’s over-representation of autistic/socially incompetent men hereNo I don’t think a fig guy with a meh face can find a fit girl with a meh face because those two people are not looks matched* As you alluded to, you can’t just trade not physical attribute across the sexss and expect them to be “equal” because men and women are attracted to different things Per your example for a man to have a “good body” he needs generally needs to be tall. That’s part of his body being considered attractive so a fit guy who is also tall with a meh face can also find a fig gir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 09:12 AM |
| 0 | This sub is an objectively bad example of what average men are like in real life because there’s over-representation of autistic/socially incompetent men hereThey are failing to find love because their standards are still too high. They likely can find love by going after a girl that’s harder to look at | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 09:06 AM |
| 1 | Feminists will do all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify why men should adhere to gender roles.Who are you under the impression that women who completely abandon their gender role are treated well by society That butch non feminine women who refuse to beautify themselves, act pleasant and feminine, have children, or take care of others are well regarded in society they aren’t Additionally being a woman is much more dangerous and deadly than being a man. Women become disabled and die at much higher rates as a result of child birth than men fighting in non existent wars or protecting people… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 03:29 AM |
| -3 | Feminists will do all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify why men should adhere to gender roles.Where is the contradiction though. A gender role that you need to fufull to exist in society is bad. A gender role that you need to fufull to be considered attractive is not bad Men can paint their nails,do not need to lead, protect, provide etc. no one will bother them but it will just impact the kind of women who are interested in them Women can buzz their hair, have zero nurturing skills, and like like men. But it will impact the men who are interested in them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 02:59 AM |
| 10 | This sub is an objectively bad example of what average men are like in real life because there’s over-representation of autistic/socially incompetent men hereThe point it isnt' realistic for a man to want a gf who he or most people look at and immediately think 'she's cute' if hes not the kind of guy she or most people would immediately look at and think 'he's cute' if hes fundamentally a nice person and merely not bad to look, he would probably be able to find the female counterpart of that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 02:07 AM |
| -4 | This sub is an objectively bad example of what average men are like in real life because there’s over-representation of autistic/socially incompetent men here> I was told both by my peers and my own family that the girls were just immature and when I’m older I would be able to get women because I was kind and intelligent, as it turned out that led to nothing Were you looking only for women who were cute or for women who were similarly unattractive? I bet your intelligence and kindness would help you to get a similarly looks matched woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 01:58 AM |
| 26 | This sub is an objectively bad example of what average men are like in real life because there’s over-representation of autistic/socially incompetent men here> but that they were given the impression that there was someone for everyone and even the dorky guy would end up with a cute girlfriend in the end. Why does the girlfriend need to be cute? This line of reasoning doesn't make sense. He thought looks dont matter but he thought he'd end up with someone with good looks. He can find a girl, no one lied about that but she won't be cute if he isn't cute | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/25 01:33 AM |
| 18 | There's nothing women bring to the table other than reproductionI made a post about this and all the men down voted me! They seem to think if women have less options and become more politically disenfranchised that desperation will benefit the average man They don’t seem to grasp that in a world where the power and money gets more condensed, it makes more sense for each and every woman to join a super harem and give the top 10% of men ten women each than to start pairing up with incels Better to be his whore than you’re wife as the saying goes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 02:22 PM |
| 2 | What's the reason behind this wave of extreme hatred against men on social media by feminists and women in general?You are just assuming those men didn’t put any effort because you’re not privy to the actual interactions Men who are the most successful with women generally have a lot of charm and good looks they are very much masculine. They often put in tons of effort that you a person outside their interactions wouldn’t be able to see But I’ll play along with your assumption for a minute —even if those men were low effort because they were very attractive what does that have to do with you because you aren… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 02:06 PM |
| -1 | What's the reason behind this wave of extreme hatred against men on social media by feminists and women in general?What you're referring to is sameness not equality. The best way to get sameness in the dating process is to date people of the same sex. Most women who want to date men have to display different traits and behaviors from men Most men who want to date women have to display different traits and behaviors from women. An increasing about of men want to "act like women in dating" which is fine but its going to be a turn off and exclude them from consideration by a large swath of women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 01:25 AM |
| 1 | What's the reason behind this wave of extreme hatred against men on social media by feminists and women in general?What is it that you want those women to debate? And why do you want them to debate it The topics you mentioned are mostly aimed at women and for women so there's nothing much to debate mn with. Additionally, these women aren't trying to opress or deprive men of rights in anyway they just dont want to date those men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/25 01:18 AM |
| 3 | People dont like men with victim complexes and men should stop wanting society to coddle them.The overwhelming about of men are fathers and husbands if that is all it takes to be immune from criticism, no one should ever criticize anyone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 07:59 PM |
| 1 | People dont like men with victim complexes and men should stop wanting society to coddle them.You are who OP is talking about. The reality is that men who whine that 'but women get this" aren't going to be respected by men or women. Men are not "women and children" and wanting to be in the women and children group is going to cost people seeing you as a man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 07:57 PM |
| 3 | Feminism is not bad for women in any way shape or formAbolishing slavery went against while people’s perceived interests Yet most people agree that opposing slavery on that basis is deeply immoral | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/25 11:17 AM |
| 1 | Women don't view sex the same way men do (referring to previous post).I’m happen to think it’s very important. I don’t think it’s reasonable to ‘deprive your spouse’ but that goes for anything be it sex, romance, trips whatever is important to your partner should be imporrant to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/25 09:48 PM |
| 2 | Women don't view sex the same way men do (referring to previous post).Do you think if a man won’t take his wife to Europe and he prohibits her from going with another man, her husband is controlling her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/25 08:39 PM |
| 4 | Women don't view sex the same way men do (referring to previous post).Many men don’t care about taking their wives on vacations, but would be upset if their wives went on vacations with another man…is this hypocritical to you It shouldn’t be. It’s perfectly understandable to not have a deep desire to do something with your partner while also prohibiting them from doing it with someone else It’s not really a control mechanism | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/25 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Low status men like high status men are their allies but but they are notWomen don’t arbitrarily look at unattractive or financially unsuccessful things and dislike them. The men here are lowers because they say and act like losers. Women do dislike incels who parrot misogynistic takes which is a far cry from ‘hating unsuccessful men for existing’ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/25 01:27 PM |
| 1 | Low status men like high status men are their allies but but they are notWomen don’t hate men that are below them. Women don’t want to date men who are below them, which for whatever strange reason men interpret as hate Men and women alike don’t really think about people below them. Why don’t you walk up to a Hugh powered man in a suit who has no problem getting laid and tell them you have problems getting dates, he’ll treat you as a loser, same as women will Men won’t dump on mentally ill women because successful men have better things to do not because they are mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/25 12:20 PM |
| – | Men are no longer the center of universe and some men can't adaptAnd expecting your wife to get pregnant is not at all the same as her expecting you to ask her out and take all of the initiative. You're right it's not because expecting your wife to get pregnant is a hell of a lot more valuable, at least $100k per your estimation You need to grow up and realize that wanting women to perform a $100k service to you for free when you aren't willing to ask her on a date is exploitative lol. Since when is 'taking initiative' more work than childbirth Women are biol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/25 01:16 AM |
| – | Men are no longer the center of universe and some men can't adaptExpecting your girlfriend/wife to do things because she is a woman is expecting her to perform a gender role. The fact that women can get pregnant, give birth, etc is biological. But you expecting her to do that (when you could adopt, hire a surrogate, etc) is absolutely wanting her to fill a gender role. When women expect their husbands to get up in the middle of the night to check out a strange noise, they’re leaning on a traditional gender role—even if men might be, biologically better suited… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/25 12:44 AM |
| 1 | Men are no longer the center of universe and some men can't adaptMen have gendered expectations of their female partners -sex -child bearing (in relationships where the couple wants children -child rearing - maintaining a feminine appearance -maintaining the home -maintaining the family’s social calendar and relationships with others -organizing holidays, birthdays, doctors appointments, keeping track of everything etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/25 10:56 PM |
| 2 | Low status men like high status men are their allies but but they are notBecause if you enjoy sociology this sub is fascinating. The statements made by men here are at odds to anything women who date and marry successful men have ever seen. Their nihilistic perspectives provides insight into the cultural zeitgeist Plus, you guys are really entertaining Why do women like true crime or love is blind? Same shit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/25 08:28 PM |
| 8 | Low status men like high status men are their allies but but they are notDude....if the taxes he pays are irrelevant than the taxes men pay at large are irrelevant. So can men stop complaining about being 'net supporters of women' when most of the men making this complaint don't build society or pay any meaningful amount of taxes If we don't care about what the top 5% or 1% of men think why the fuck would we care about what the bottom 50% of men think | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/25 01:17 PM |
| 2 | Low status men like high status men are their allies but but they are notMy argument makes plenty of sense. Voting for someone on the basis that they are going to deprive your enemies of rights without considering the very real possibility that they will likely use their new and increased power to also deprive you of rights makes you stupid > I'm a leftist guy and when I think of men's issue, it's about class issue for me. Majority of men aren't rich so idk how you think talking about male issues makes me allies to the elites. They never were Because they aren't male… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/25 01:08 PM |
| 7 | Low status men like high status men are their allies but but they are notYou aren't the best option. Instead of taking ownership and betting a better option Or being jealous of the man who is the better option, who is hogging all the women You think it's women's fault for choosing the better option than you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/25 01:00 PM |
| 8 | Low status men like high status men are their allies but but they are notEveryone I know who voted for Trump did so because of their hatred for some other group. LGBT, Liberals, Racial groups, etc... I get your honesty. Even though you didn't vote this way, that this a a very dangerous and self defeating way to vote. "Low value men" would make better political allies with low value women, but they want to attach themselves with 'high value men' failing to understand such men look down on them more than their female counterparts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/25 12:09 PM |
| 8 | Low status men like high status men are their allies but but they are notEveryone in the lower class and middle class is getting screwed while Trump manipulated the market to make his millionaire buddies wealthier. Exactly, many average and below men want to align themselves with men as a whole. But successful men don't see them as allies. The disdain a lot of men here have for women is the same disdain above average men have for below average men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/25 12:05 PM |
| 2 | Low status men like high status men are their allies but but they are notWhen dating, women understand that no option is better than a bad option, so they often pick the no option There's no such choice in politics, you have to pick the lesser of two evils. The issue is that lower status men have misconstrued what the lesser of two evils is. Many voted for trump specifically because they thought trump would deprive women of rights. The irony is in voting in hopes of oppressing a group of people and thinking they aren't going to oppress/look down on you too. It's a cl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/25 12:00 PM |
| 6 | Low status men like high status men are their allies but but they are notWomen who are in healthy relationships who have never been raped or beaten typically feel strongly that no other women should be raped or beaten. Mothers who have strong support systems feel a lot of empathy for mothers who have no resources and want to help them The male equivalent doesn't really exist | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/25 11:52 AM |
| 1 | Low status men like high status men are their allies but but they are notDo you believe the men who post here who are not proactively empathetic to women's issues and struggles are a pack of jackals in human form? If not, why not? Men at the bottom are maligning women as the reason for their struggles. They fail to understand the men at the top don't give a shit about them. Many men here are gleefully awaiting the opportunity to oppress women not understanding that the people who want to oppress women will also oppress you Also, I was using my husband as an example, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/25 11:48 AM |
| 2 | Low status men like high status men are their allies but but they are notYou're missing the point. My husband, who I'm using as an example, believes in the importance of social programs, and doesn't complain about paying taxes, even though he actually pays a substantial amount. This sub is constantly filled with men who do complain about their taxes, etc being spent on social programs, specifically for women and children, when many of these men are barely net tax contributors in the first place. These lower and average men often complain about how men's contributions… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/25 11:35 AM |
| 3 | Low status men like high status men are their allies but but they are notIt’s true that CERTAIN men are net tax contributors, not nebulous men as a whole. If anyone is entitled to ‘credit for that, or the ability to leverage that for an argument it’s those individual men, not ‘men’ broadly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/25 11:10 AM |
| 0 | Low status men like high status men are their allies but but they are notSo you agree men should stop whining about how men are net tax contributors and women are net tax recipients because apparently it doesn’t matter | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/25 04:15 AM |
| 9 | Low status men like high status men are their allies but but they are notBut you don’t live under a matriarchy-esque society now. The biggest winners of the sexual marketplace aren’t women, it’s Chad. Why would the men at the top shift from a system where they get casual sex for years before settling down but average men get nothing to a system where they only get one woman so the average man gets access to women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/25 04:13 AM |
| 8 | Low status men like high status men are their allies but but they are notMen are competitive. they may have understanding for their friends that struggle, but successful men don’t see random struggling men and give a shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/25 04:04 AM |
| 14 | Low status men like high status men are their allies but but they are notHe’d rather his taxes go to women and children than other men. He’d rather force the men to support their old children even if that meant sky high child support for them It matters because men on this thread are constantly complaining about the taxes ‘men pay’ to support women, as if the men who actually pay those taxes feel comrades with other men. They don’t view ‘men’ as paying high taxes, they view themselves as paying high taxes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/25 04:01 AM |
| 7 | Low status men like high status men are their allies but but they are notAre you traditionally well educated and successful? Because yea, successful men absolutely judge other men on success metrics. So many men in this subreddit claim that women and the ‘gynocracy’ are keeping men down and judging them harshly. The truth is, men who are succeeding, judge them way harsher than women do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/25 03:57 AM |
| 1 | Men are no longer the center of universe and some men can't adaptWomen literally create the children though, that’s adding something | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/25 01:15 AM |
| 1 | Men are no longer the center of universe and some men can't adaptNothing you've outlined implies men have greater responsibility than women--just that they have different responsibilities than women. Women are responsible to bear children if the couple wants children. Women are responsible for being the primary parent when children are young. They are generally responsible for maintain social calendars, maintaining the families relationship with others, 'taking care' of the family members, etc. Additionally most women are expected to work. If men were doing e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/25 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Men are no longer the center of universe and some men can't adaptAnd what societal duty do modern men perform? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/25 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Men are no longer the center of universe and some men can't adaptWhat responsibility do men have that women don’t have and what authority should men have and over who? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/25 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Men are no longer the center of universe and some men can't adaptHow is is possible that so many men thought this? Why would you equate women’s desire to not have strict socially mandated gender roles to mean that sexual relationally gender roles do not apply? That’s a serious question. Even in an equal society within relationships there are things men expect women to do because they are women. Why would you not understand that there are also things women expect men to do in relationships because they are men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/25 05:25 PM |
| 3 | "The juice isn't worth the squeeze anymore." Is it for women?A top 10% earner is 200k. Most than most, obviously but every woman I know whose husband makes 200k also.... works. That number just doesn't take you far in HCOL areas especially with a family That's why so many women view their jobs as part of their identity. If you're both working six figure jobs, the woman can't 'afford' to quit said job unless the family wants to significantly downgrade their living experiences. Working a demanding job is tough and pretty all encompassing which is why women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/25 11:00 PM |
| 3 | Society actively mitigates biological disadvantages for women, but systemically entrenches them for men.Men misunderstand what abortion is Abortion Is about pregnancy. It allows you to not be pregnant. Men don't need an additional right to not get and stay pregnant they already have that right thus they dont need any sort of abortion rights | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/25 04:51 PM |
| 7 | Men are no longer the center of universe and some men can't adaptYou're extrapolating the experience of low status unlucky men to all men 25 year old college educated young men living in big cities are working white color jobs going to happy hour after work and booking vacations to Mexico They are living life on easy mode not fighting in wars | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/25 06:05 PM |
| 6 | Is hiring escorts as unethical as some people make it out to be?The honest answer that you aren’t going to like A guy who used a hooker especially a hooker to loose their virginity is a “different kind of guy” maybe you’ll be able to hide that fact for the rest of your life but it will often bleed out into other aspects of your life and it’s better to be honest It’s likely akin to having had sex with a man before. There are women who will be okay with it and women whom it will be a complete deal breaker for | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/25 12:40 AM |
| 10 | Why is sex a nontradeable ?It’s rape adjacent . Not rape and shouldn’t be punishable by jail time but the woman doesn’t want to do it. And women are creeped out by men who only want women who are willing to do it and not who want to do it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 05:55 PM |
| – | Why do you judge men who pay for sex way more harshly than women who have casual hookups, one night stands & FWB?A man who has sex with a woman who doesn’t want to have sex with him is rapey to women. It doesn’t matter if she agreed to it it matters if she wants it, which a hooker does not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 03:29 PM |
| – | Why do you judge men who pay for sex way more harshly than women who have casual hookups, one night stands & FWB?It’s about consent. It feels rapey to a lot of women because the man is willing to do it with a woman who doesn’t really want to do it with him Women are really creeped out by men who try to work around consent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 12:27 PM |
| 2 | "Provider men" content is deeply infantilizing to women and misogynisticI agree with your assessment that competence and masculinity are tied But how in the real world do you display competence without spending money? The truth in today’s economy it’s hard to do one without the other even if you aren’t ‘simping’ How many times do women need things fixed? And generally you still need to buy the parts to fix things. I agree women do like the lead on planning things. But you still need to call the Ubers $$, pay for the activity $. In my twenties the guys would host hou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/25 04:06 PM |
| 2 | Removing access to abortion and birth control won’t make women want dependable average men more -- it’ll make them avoid men altogetherYou’ve developed a fantasy to make yourself feel better As an umc woman you don’t seem to understand marrying some dude at age 20 and having kids is also an unrecoverable failure Too many men don’t really understand this is a fate worse than death for so many women. Your life would be abject shit either way. Either you have a kid or two with a hot guy you like. Or you have a bunch of kids and no education or future with a not attractive guy you don’t like. Risking it with Chad so you get to expe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 12:03 PM |
| 31 | Most women aren’t good enough for relationships for most menHe doesn’t want to do that. He wants to neg women so they improve A lot of men don’t seem to understand we take our own advice. If you don’t think women are worth entertaining just abstain from them. But they don’t want to abstain lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 03:44 AM |
| – | Why do so many women say their low sex drive in marriage was due to lack of emotional attunement & burden of household chores, yet immediately start enjoying CASUAL SEX after divorce with men they share no emotional connection or household chores with?Women don’t look at sex the way men do in that they don’t think any opportunity to have sex is good. Sex with romance and fun is good sex with hot young guys is good Where is the contradiction? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 03:39 AM |
| 3 | Removing access to abortion and birth control won’t make women want dependable average men more -- it’ll make them avoid men altogetherHistory doesn’t help us here because a lot has changed in addition to birth control and abortion 50 years ago women didn’t have financial freedom and it wasn’t socially acceptable to be single. So women had to get married to someone and they picked the most dependable guy If you remove birth control..women pick no one. A lot of men can’t seem to get that, they think if women will pick them if they can’t get Chad. No, without birth control and abortion the logical choice is to pick no one. Medioc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 03:21 AM |
| 13 | "Provider men" content is deeply infantilizing to women and misogynisticAs a woman I dont agree with a lot of the female commenters here. This is a very real phenomenon in person and online. Women absolutely value what men provide financially and always have.. Some women are being over the top about it absolutely, but at its core...theres a lot of truth to it as well. Men expect women to be feminine in relationships, (which is reasonable) but femininity does need to be cultivated in women, and men who 'perform masculinity' will often be rewarded by women asking more… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/25 08:03 PM |
| 8 | "Provider men" content is deeply infantilizing to women and misogynisticIm going to disagree with the other women here. I think this is a very real want (for some women) on and offline and women are gaslighting OP a bit by pretending no women want this While some of the "stay in your feminine energy stuff is clearly intended to be dramatic the reality is that heterosexual people like their respective partners to act like a man or woman sometimes. And women like men who help him feel feminine by taking care of more masculine tasks The provider conversation is trigger… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/25 07:52 PM |
| 0 | "Provider men" content is deeply infantilizing to women and misogynisticI’m concerned by your use of the world radicalization here. Women aren’t consuming this content and become violent or developing a tendency for harm. They are looking at this and deciding they don’t want to be in relationships with men who aren’t providers. That’s an inherently less dangerous or destructive conclusion than one which “radicalizes people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/25 05:41 PM |
| 7 | Removing access to abortion and birth control won’t make women want dependable average men more -- it’ll make them avoid men altogetherI’m disagreeing that outlawing abortion or birth control will change anything. Women with free will will not pick you. If you want to create a system which women are slaves and have absolutely no rights at all then come out and say that. Women are not going to agree to have sex with you. If your plan is to then rape them, you’re technically right that that will get you sex. But admit that your grand plan is to become a literal rapist and stop acting like women are choosing poorly by not choosing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/25 04:23 PM |
| 7 | Removing access to abortion and birth control won’t make women want dependable average men more -- it’ll make them avoid men altogetherWomen do not lie about not picking Chad people with a reasonable amount of social intelligence understand their is a hierarchy to dating and everything else. It should not be surprising to men that attractive men are more sought out The alternative…is…. being single dude That is your alternative. Wanting to coerce and rape women to avoid being single makes you a monster. Women are not doing anything to you by not picking you and finding you hot. You are not being harmed or elslaved by women by t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/25 04:18 PM |
| – | Why do so many women say their low sex drive in marriage was due to lack of emotional attunement & burden of household chores, yet immediately start enjoying CASUAL SEX after divorce with men they share no emotional connection or household chores with?More romance and fun in their relationships. Women dknt look forward to sex in the same way men do, women do look forward to passion, romance, and fun and that helps get them in the mood for sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/25 03:22 PM |
| 18 | Removing access to abortion and birth control won’t make women want dependable average men more -- it’ll make them avoid men altogetherAs a woman this thread makes me have infinitely less empathy for men struggling romantically than I had before Apparently there’s a not small group of men who don’t care if women are coerced into being with them. A group of men who think children starving is a better outcome to having their fathers pay child support for them. Oh and by the way these are the nice guys by the way. They admonish women for picking Chad as if wanting women to loose access to self determination so they can get laid do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 01:10 PM |
| 15 | Removing access to abortion and birth control won’t make women want dependable average men more -- it’ll make them avoid men altogetherWomen have a desire for sex but it doesn’t rival men’s. A vibrator generally feels better than a man anyway. This idea that women will lower than standards as oppose to raising them and have less sex with men is cope | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 01:05 PM |
| 18 | Removing access to abortion and birth control won’t make women want dependable average men more -- it’ll make them avoid men altogetherMen keep projecting their own lusts on to women. They don’t understand the risk and undertaking of pregnancy is a huge libido killer. Women very clearly want to limit the number of children they have. Sex and coupling are already down with birth control. If you take the birth control away obviously women will have infinitely less sex even with their dependable and loving partners. Men keep refusing to see this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 01:03 PM |
| 6 | Removing access to abortion and birth control won’t make women want dependable average men more -- it’ll make them avoid men altogetherIf a major part of dependability is finances than sure—- but children are expensive. Nice guys who will stick around but can’t provide for kids won’t offer that much | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 12:45 PM |
| 8 | Removing access to abortion and birth control won’t make women want dependable average men more -- it’ll make them avoid men altogetherI sort of disagree because a lot has changed socially since the advent of birth control— One of which is that just a generation ago women were conditioned that they needed men and sex Celibacy is up with women. I’m married but a lot of my single friends aren’t having the sex they use to have- a lot of women are increasingly comfortable just not engaging with men if the circumstances aren’t perfect. And a lack of abortion and birth control is a lack of perfect circumstance | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 12:43 PM |
| 13 | Removing access to abortion and birth control won’t make women want dependable average men more -- it’ll make them avoid men altogetherBecause of economic necessity and they were forced to marry Women didn’t have the option to pick no one So sure if your plan is to deprive women of all rights and oppress them completely average men will get wives. Same as if your plan is to rape women, you’ll get sex. Is that your plan? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 12:39 PM |
| 1 | Why do you guys insist that a woman's income and career doesn't matter, while also complaining about women "settling" for stable providers?Why would women do this when most men aren’t worth changing for. If there were enough high earning attractive interesting men around, sure women would bite their tongue. Hell such men would inspire women to naturally do it. But most men aren’t adding enough to women’s lives for women to change in any way at large | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 12:25 AM |
| – | Women aren't going to drastically change their lifestyle so that someday you might want to marry them.No, it will be the opposite If you risk pregnancy every time you have sex, it only makes sense to have sex with men when they are REALLY worth it An ugly man offering you bad sex and loyalty from a man you aren’t interested in, isn’t in fact offering you anything. Women aren’t men they will give up on men and sex at higher rates without abortion and birth control You are right that being a provider will help men get women, but the men who are providers already get women. Average men who make ave… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 04:21 PM |
| 3 | Does it makes sense to you at all when men say some women are entitled in dating?I get your point but I believe you’re missing the subtext. Women don’t perform for men they aren’t interested in—so while it’s absolutely true that she needs to offer something to her partner (we all do) and she’s probably happy to display this value to her partner, she’s not going to provide it to you because she ‘doesn’t answer to you’ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/25 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Does it makes sense to you at all when men say some women are entitled in dating?Given what you said how would that help the average man though, in order for you to be able to loose a few attraction points and still be attractive you need to be REALLy attractive to begin with or dating down immensely in looks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/25 06:39 PM |
| 18 | We Need More Reserved, Scolding WomenWhy would women do this is the question. Men are shaming women because it’s better for them. But there doesn’t seem to be a good reason to discourage young women from partying and having their fun while young, which is why women in mass aren’t doing it anymore If you listen closely enough women are doing the opposite. Our own mothers and grandmothers encouraged us to kiss as many frogs as we needed to find our prince, not get married too early and not have a bunch of children My grandmother had … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 01:36 PM |
| – | Women make it very stressful for men to stay singleOk, but what does that change? Maybe he's a virgin because he's that unattractive. That's still a good reason to not want to date someone. Men too often think a red flag is the presence of negatives but it's also the absence of positives. If you as an adult haven't been able to get any of the outcomes you what by a certain age, statistically you're not likely to ever them. Women seek competent partners and if you want a relationship or sex and you've never been able to figure out how to get anyy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 07:58 PM |
| – | Women make it very stressful for men to stay singleIt’s not. It’s an example in real time that shows a grown man (30s or 40s) with no relationship experience is seen as a red flag because he typically is one. There is typically a reason you’ve never been able to get with women, ops reason is spelled out pretty clearly in his post history | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 05:19 PM |
| 3 | Should we have No Divorce groups?If you refuse to buy your partner a new Range Rover are you withholding a Range Rover? Is that abuse. No. Because your partner isn’t owed a Range Rover They aren’t owed sex either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 04:10 PM |
| 7 | Should we have No Divorce groups?Use of sex as a weapon isn’t even a reasonable reason for divorce. You’re spouse doesn’t have to have sex with you and them refusing is not on the same level as infidelity or abuse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 12:58 AM |
| 2 | Men want women to settle for themIt depends are the average women “cute” or not. Are you “cute” or not. Young colleges girls are often cute on average. Their counterpart is often not as cute therefore they aren’t looks matched. If you take “average girl” you’re talking about and show her and yourself to 100 people do roughly the same amount of people say you are attractive. Because that’s your looks match | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/25 01:46 PM |
| 1 | The average man is not below an average woman.Doing dishes won’t help you get a one night stand, but I assume you know that already. Your whole stance is bizzare. Women already do their own dishes so they won’t mind doing yours too?? Again why would any woman agree to do this unless you are exceptional in some way? You’re proving why women are dating less. Of course women aren’t going to let average men make their lives worse and add to their workload for no reason | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/25 10:27 PM |
| 9 | The average man is not below an average woman.The problem is people want more and better than their parents had As a kid growing up how many of our dads cooked and cleaned and planned as many activities as our moms did? Most did not. Women want men who are better than their fathers that’s the point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/25 04:28 PM |
| 0 | The average man is not below an average woman.Single women are overperforming men on virtually very metric though They have more friends, make more money, are more likely to own a home than their male counterparts They are also more attractive. An average 25 year old woman is generally cute an average 25 year old man is generally not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/25 04:26 PM |
| 2 | The average man is not below an average woman.Ok but the man wasn’t attractive to begin with. Both the man and the woman get a partner that isn’t particularly attractive that’s equal no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/25 04:21 PM |
| 2 | The average man is not below an average woman.This is false . Dishes don’t make women horny but men not providing enough tangible value is absolutely why women are dating less. Women are working full time and taking care of children/household. That means men at the very bare minimum need to be working full time and taking care of an equal amount of the home and children. Or make enough money so she can focus on the home full time and doesn’t have to work Men aren’t doing this and thus for most women having a partner is more women than being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/25 04:14 PM |
| 9 | The average man is not below an average woman.Women do love their husbands that’s why they are marrying less and refusing most men. They are refusing to date and marry then do not like or love or don’t want to have sex with And then men are loosing their damn mind that they aren’t being picked. You can’t demand women pick men they don’t want and then get upset that women are refusing to love and sleep with them when they didn’t want them in the first place | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/25 04:09 PM |
| 5 | Men want women to settle for themIf men started getting surgeries and hair transplants and taking steroids honestly I doubt women would complain Would would generally be thrilled that men looked better and wouldn’t ask that many questions as to why | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/25 12:42 PM |
| 17 | Men want women to settle for themThe difference was in large part that society placed extreme expectations on women to couple up and then men and society shamed the shit out of them when men would have been actually happy either way A lot of the shame for either gender to couple has lifted. Aka women and men don’t have to be husbands and wives or bfs and girlfriends anymore coupling up is now way more optional and elective And women aren’t really shaming men at anywhere near the levels society use to shame women. Women are just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 11:42 PM |
| 2 | Men want women to settle for themOk? So what’s the conclusion you’re drawing based on that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 07:50 PM |
| 10 | Men want women to settle for themMen are constantly complaining that every man who isn’t a chad can’t even get a date let alone a girlfriend? These men constantly say they would be willing to date average girls. By virtue of these men willing to date them, these women have the ability to get into a relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 07:25 PM |
| 8 | Men want women to settle for themYou negate this in your previous comment where you said the dating market determines what is valuable. According to the dating market an average woman is more attractive than the average man and has more options than him. So the average man’s looks match is a below average woman. If women don’t look at your and think your cute Your looksmafch is a woman who men look at and don’t think is cute | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 07:03 PM |
| 12 | Men want women to settle for themEhh it appears a lot of men think someone on their level is a cute young girl when if you aren’t an attractive guy your level is a non attractive girl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 06:58 PM |
| 14 | Men want women to settle for themBecause men’s and women’s desire is fundamentally different. Men literally adapt to whatever is available to them (even other men in prison) women have a stronger threshold and if someone doesn’t meet it they just opt out. It’s not beater or worse but we need to acknowledge women and men are different | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 06:56 PM |
| 2 | CMV: it's underhanded for men to keep their assets in their mother's name in case of a breakupCompensation from where? In the example he would be paying for everything so where are you asking if she should compensate him from Additionally in most marriages where the man is paying for everything the woman would be taking care of children etc. if she had no other responsibilities and wasn’t taking care of children and the man in question in insanely rich, I’m sure the vast majority of those women do stay in great shape | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/25 06:24 PM |
| 2 | CMV: it's underhanded for men to keep their assets in their mother's name in case of a breakupIn the example above I said the man’s money likely played a party in why the woman wanted to marry him. MOST men don’t have any money so there wouldn’t be any sort of implicit contract about the woman keeping up her looks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/25 06:11 PM |
| 2 | CMV: it's underhanded for men to keep their assets in their mother's name in case of a breakupMen typically look worse than women when they age…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/25 06:01 PM |
| -1 | CMV: it's underhanded for men to keep their assets in their mother's name in case of a breakupThe issue is that a good part of what these men are bringing to the relationship is their money. That IS part of why these women are agreeing to the relationship If you don’t want money to factor into the relationship ( which is completely reasonable) you then need to be comfortable with getting less women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/25 04:16 PM |
| 3 | Progressives or blue pill people ironically blame the male loneliness epidemic women when it comes to shaming single men.I can clarify it for you. Just because men find happiness in women doesn’t mean women are responsible for your happiness Something making you happy doesn’t mean it is responsible for your happiness Pasta makes me happy. Pasta has no responsibility for my happiness | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/25 01:46 AM |
| – | The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face.The average woman is better looking than the average man though. If you walk down the street, there are likely multiple women that most women and men think are cute. You can easily walk down the street and not see any men that are cute or attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 06:01 PM |
| – | The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face.Why aren’t get getting plastic surgery and fillers hair transplants etc then. This seems like an easy fix to the problem | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 03:46 PM |
| 2 | Men don’t feel entitled to a relationship/sex, women just have free access to itNo it wouldn’t be a moral failure. My point was highlighting that men could genuinely be happy either way though where women get no enjoyment out of the uglier option if we’re being hones not because their standards are too high but because women’s attraction thresholds are genuinely different | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/25 09:07 PM |
| 3 | Men don’t feel entitled to a relationship/sex, women just have free access to itThe difference is men are genuinely attracted to average looking women but prefer attractive looking women. Women aren’t attracted to average looking men at the same rates. For men it’s the difference between good and great for women’s it’s the difference between okay and awful | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/25 07:27 PM |
| 11 | What do you think is the biggest hurdle toward empathy for men?The fact that sex helped you doesn’t really change that it’s not fruitful for women to have empathy for your inability to get laid. Mostly because it comes from a place of what you want to get aka take from another person and not want you want to give or share with them. Per someone else’s earlier commment, men who can’t get relationships who want to and know they woukd be great partners DO get empathy from women. They want something of value from women but want to give something of value in ret… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/25 06:15 PM |
| 11 | What do you think is the biggest hurdle toward empathy for men?Ok so if we showed empathy for those men and helped them get companionship from men and women where sex was off the table, would the men stop whining ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/25 06:11 PM |
| – | When did the narrative shift from "it's your personality and misogyny that keeping you single" to "ofc women love attractive men, are you a stupid shut in!!" ?Ok then. Whats the issue they don’t want each other? How can you say her standards are too high and hers aren’t when they are mutually rejecting the other for the same reason | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/25 05:05 PM |
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