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| 2 | The REAL problem with dating is that both men and women always want something above their level and aren’t willing to settleNope. Notice how you're not linking to: "The same guys who complain women demand perfection are chasing women above their league." Again, you are now conscious of the fact that you believe something without any basis for it. You have a choice to make. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 03:52 PM |
| 1 | The REAL problem with dating is that both men and women always want something above their level and aren’t willing to settleMy attempt to change your view is to point out to you that, for this: The same guys who complain women demand perfection are chasing women above their league. You have absolutely no evidence You can't point to a single example, let alone a trend. If you believe something, and then it is pointed out to you that you don't actually have any basis for your belief, you have a choice: you can alter your belief, or you can retain it knowing there's no basis for it. Which one of those are you going with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 01:58 PM |
| 0 | Most men would be resentful and disgusted by their partners if they were given a written or visual history of their past sexual experiences. CMV.This is not an attempt to change the OP's view. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 01:00 PM |
| 2 | r/TrueRateMe mods banning people for overrating is a good step in enforcing realistic ratings and giving a reality check to women who overestimate their looks, the same overestimation that makes them reject men in their league for unreasonable standards.I'm sorry that you're an unhappy person. You seem to have fallen for the just world fallacy, and when I try to offer you a better perspective, you reject it because it's not "just" and therefore doesn't make sense to you. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 04/09/23 03:09 AM |
| 1 | r/TrueRateMe mods banning people for overrating is a good step in enforcing realistic ratings and giving a reality check to women who overestimate their looks, the same overestimation that makes them reject men in their league for unreasonable standards.You're alluding to a claim, but are too timid to make it. Maybe english isn't your first language, or maybe you're just not ready to accept what I told you. But what I said is true, and useful. And merely alluding to a rebuttal isn't a great look. The two statements you quoted aren't contradictory. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 03/09/23 06:30 PM |
| 3 | r/TrueRateMe mods banning people for overrating is a good step in enforcing realistic ratings and giving a reality check to women who overestimate their looks, the same overestimation that makes them reject men in their league for unreasonable standards.You operate on a wrong assumption No, you are operating on a wrong assumption - and possibly not even reading what I wrote. Your wrong assumption is that tiers are necessarily distributed uniformly. How do I know that's your assumption? Because under that assumption, what I said above doesn't make sense. Therefore, that assumption is the basis for your objection. ...but the assumption is wrong - or at least, not useful and realistic. The method I described above is realistic and useful. You may … | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 03/09/23 03:07 PM |
| 2 | r/TrueRateMe mods banning people for overrating is a good step in enforcing realistic ratings and giving a reality check to women who overestimate their looks, the same overestimation that makes them reject men in their league for unreasonable standards.Yes, it does. I specifically said, "It doesn't matter, for the purposes of this exercise, that women rate 90% of men as below average. " | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 03/09/23 02:55 AM |
| -3 | r/TrueRateMe mods banning people for overrating is a good step in enforcing realistic ratings and giving a reality check to women who overestimate their looks, the same overestimation that makes them reject men in their league for unreasonable standards.You're probably being too hard on yourself. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 01/09/23 05:43 PM |
| 13 | r/TrueRateMe mods banning people for overrating is a good step in enforcing realistic ratings and giving a reality check to women who overestimate their looks, the same overestimation that makes them reject men in their league for unreasonable standards.That's certainly better than judging themselves based on the guys they let hit. The only problem with looking at orbiters is that some of them wont commit either. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 01/09/23 05:43 PM |
| 53 | r/TrueRateMe mods banning people for overrating is a good step in enforcing realistic ratings and giving a reality check to women who overestimate their looks, the same overestimation that makes them reject men in their league for unreasonable standards.The whole concept of having other people rate you - particularly anonymous people - is flawed. Here's how you can tell what your "rating" is (and I'll even back this up with science): if you're a man, go into a bar/club/whatever and look around. Decide what rating you'd give to the women there. I know, I know, this seems like a radical proposal. But again, I have science to back this up. If you see a 9, a 7, and a 4, shoot your shot with the 9. Rejected? K. Try the 7. Also rejected? Fine. Try th… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 01/09/23 01:24 PM |
| 11 | Q4M: would you ever "go through the motions" to please your partner sexually?Did you feel used? You're one of those people who believe that men and women are the same and that therefore, you can predict (you believe) how men will feel about a thing by simply swapping out "man" and "woman" in a story. ...but the world doesn't work like that. Men and women are different and as a result, when you swap the gender in a situation, you also have to swap the gender role. In this case, you'd have to swap sex for something like attention. See, a woman might feel "used" if she gave… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/23 07:07 PM |
| – | Why do older women (35+) raise their standards and think shaming men their age into meeting them or dating them will work?Wanting a relationship is like wanting a new job, when you’re independently wealthy. This is a bit of a cope. Note that people who are independently wealthy aren't creating gigantic online communities where they complain about how hard it is to get a job. Note that people who are independently wealthy aren't creating millions of tiktok videos crying about how they're unemployed. So no, it's not at all like wanting a job when you're independently wealthy. The women that OP is talking about are lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 02:16 PM |
| 4 | Why would a woman marry young if her husband will eventually end up lusting after younger women?It's not an apex fallacy if it's literally the discussion and what you asked for. It is the apex fallacy if it only applies to the people at the apex. If you can show that it applies to the group as a whole and not just apex, then please do. It's like if I claim that rich people have private jets. You say that no, most of them don't. Then I show you Elon Musk's jet, and Jeff Bezos' jet ...and the "20 richest men's" private jets. Have I proven the point? Well, no. People making $500k per year don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 12:24 AM |
| 0 | Why would a woman marry young if her husband will eventually end up lusting after younger women?look at the top 20 richest men And you can look at this: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Apex_fallacy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 10:34 PM |
| 15 | Why would a woman marry young if her husband will eventually end up lusting after younger women?Whats your point? No, I refuse to believe that your reading comprehension is so bad that you don't see my point. I just refuse to believe it. ...however, I do enjoy rubbing it in your face so I'll summarize: (1) /u/ThatPizzaKid rebutted the claim you actually made. So, consider your OP to be debunked. (2) you hilariously switched to a completely different point when he did that. lol. (3) labeling a normal aspect of a group's sexuality as "creepy" or in any way "wrong" is bigotry against that gro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Why would a woman marry young if her husband will eventually end up lusting after younger women?There's literally no evidence this happens at all. Ah, so the standard you're establishing for this conversation is "evidence" - got it! Most rich men who married young divorce and marry younger women. Please present evidence for your claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 07:24 PM |
| 19 | Why would a woman marry young if her husband will eventually end up lusting after younger women?You guys are kinda proving my point. Lol. You just moved the goalposts all the way off the field. Allow me to remind you - here's your actual point: her husband will eventually end up lusting after younger women? And /u/ThatPizzaKid just explained to you the science about what that wont happen. So, your point has been disproven. And now you have changed to a different point which is: The man has to see his wife as the young 20 something year old to stay attracted to her which is kinda creepy Ama… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 07:22 PM |
| 1 | You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degreeI am asking you again. Yeah, I can see that. You're frustrated because I've called you out on a serious personality flaw. You apparently aren't enough of an adult to take a step back and review the thread and realize that what I'm telling you is true and important and is the cause of much of the frustration you experience in life. You should though. You should grow up and learn to listen. Let's review what happened in this thread. The broad subject of the thread is "a submissive wife/gf" and evi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 01:11 PM |
| 1 | You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degreeSo you didn't believe Here's what I believe: the reason you don't quote me is because you're arguing with a straw man that exists only inside your own head. I bet you do this a lot. I bet most of the "arguments" you have on reddit are actually just you creating straw men. Go back and look at this thread and marvel at how you don't listen to what I'm actually saying, but instead just insist on arguing against something you invented inside your own head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 12:46 PM |
| 1 | You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degreeyou believe No, you're arguing with a straw man. If you really knew what I believed, then you would quote me saying it. You don't quote me because you are always arguing with the straw man that you invent inside your own head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 12:37 PM |
| 50 | Kevin Costner's ex-wife demands $248,000 per MONTH in child support. Just one of the reasons why men are avoiding marriage, and what Bill Burr means by an "epidemic of gold digging whores".That comes out to $24.78 for every minute they were together I love doing this calculation. I hope it catches on. I like to give the amount per hour though because ...well, because hookers charge by the hour. In this case, he paid $1487 per hour. If you had that as a budget for hookers, I suspect you'd be a lot happier than Paul McCarthy was with her. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 18/08/23 10:21 PM |
| 9 | Man explains to woman why she can't find a man with no hoes. This also applies to the majority of women who complain that they "can't find a decent guy".purpose is suffer charge phone eat hot chip lie | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 05/08/23 01:04 PM |
| 11 | What Jonah Hill did wronggood luck Meaning he walked away? Nah, he should have just downgraded her to a plate. As I see it, his primary failure here was that she wasn't chasing him for the purposes of commitment. It sounds like they somehow ended up boyfriend/girlfriend and then after that he started whining about not wanting her to fuck around with chad surfers. What should have happened is, he should have fucked her but shown absolutely no interest in having her as a girlfriend. That would get her hamster spinning, be… | /r/TheRedPill | 14/07/23 02:57 PM |
| – | What's your unpopular dating opinion? Something you truly believe, but would get you downvoted if you said it?Yes but things that are difficult are also incredibly rewarding when you succeed at them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 01:38 PM |
| – | What's your unpopular dating opinion? Something you truly believe, but would get you downvoted if you said it?"Men are one long breeding experiment run by women.” Women complaining about typical male behavior are like peahens complaining that peacocks have giant fan tails. Your female ancestors created those tails - they selected for that trait. There are plenty of meek, non-threatening, feminist men. Women could easily select for those characteristics. You could even market it as "fuck a male-feminist friday." But no. You want masculinity because you created masculinity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 01:33 PM |
| 2 | How do you justify asking for a woman with a low body count, if yours is high?I'm asking you for objective data. For example, you can use the data I provided to make a concrete statement like, "an extra 35cm of height exactly doubles (from 20% to 40%) a man's chances of getting a match in a speed-dating context." The sample size (5782) is there. You can calculate the p-factor. That's what I'm asking you if you have. Do you understand? It'd actually be fun to design such an experiment. Here's one option: we use AI-generated faces like these and AI-generated bios and we inc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 12:59 PM |
| 2 | How do you justify asking for a woman with a low body count, if yours is high?I am so curious where this trope that every woman wants a tall man comes from. This is from a peer-reviewed paper This is from a dating website Does that answer your question about where it comes from? is it really comparable to the way slut men treat non-virgin women? Do you have any objective measures of how women are treated? I gave you not one but two objective sources. Do you have anything that we can compare? Or is it possible that this is just a case of confirmation bias. Is it possible t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 12:47 PM |
| 10 | The Red Pill exists because entire generations of men are lied to about what women find attractive in men, and dismissing it as some angry hate group is simply a way to sweep all of these lies under the rugA great example of this is the following: women say, "I like men who are funny" Men hear: "I like men who are funny" TRP translates: "I like attractive men, and if they could be funny too, that'd be great." It's like a rich person, who has only ever driven Ferraris, getting a little frustrated that they have to stop at a gas station three times a week. So this rich person says, "I wish I could find a car that got better gas mileage!" The Kia dealership down the street gets exciting, thinking the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 10:52 AM |
| 1 | You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degreeyou think your opinion and wants should matter more than our partner's You're arguing with a straw man that exists only inside your own head. It's the cause of your frustrations in relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 01:02 AM |
| 7 | You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degreeI can't imagine how you can view yourself as a leader and not see the other person as inferior Wow. That's a great attitude for a leader to have. Everybody is going to want to follow a leader who thinks that way - for sure. Or ...or... OOOORRRR Maybe it's possible to be a leader in a group of equals. Maybe the mere fact that one person stepped up and took charge doesn't mean they view everyone else as inferior. Is that possible, do you think? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 11:11 AM |
| 27 | CMV: “Men and women are different” is just an excuse to rationalize hypocrisy.This doesn't appear to be a response to anything I actually said. Please consider the possibility that when you post a thread for discussion in this discussion forum, that you should read and respond to the replies ...you know, have a discussion instead of ignoring what people say and just repeating your thesis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:56 PM |
| 40 | CMV: “Men and women are different” is just an excuse to rationalize hypocrisy.Instead of looking at people as individuals influenced by their culture, values, experiences, personality, etc, You are comfortable looking at people as individuals, influenced by: culture values experiences personality But you are not comfortable looking at people as individuals, influenced by: genes, notably sex chromosomes, which govern hormone production, which manifests as affect, or personality, which leads to your life experiences, and in concert with the others of your tribe, reflects it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4M - How many average women have you had serious crushes on?Are you aware, OP, that there is a category called, "girl next door" and that this category specifically describes a "normal" (as opposed to above average) girl ...and are you aware that this category is considered desirable among men? You don't need to survey men to get your answer to this question. This troupe is really common. Men like average women; the girl next door. There is literally pornography featuring average women! The male fantasy in porn isn't perfection, it's desire - that's what… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 09:53 PM |
| 1 | I think the red pill is morally wrong in almost every aspect.I'm sorry if you haven't met anyone particularly articulate. I can help, and we'll see how you respond to it. the old red pill idea of "cant ask a fish how to catch fish!" Dating is marketing. You are selling yourself to another person. You can't ask a person how they'd like to be marketed to - if you believe you can/should do that, you're just naive about human psychology. Watch what people do, not what they say. A practical example: say you're opening a restaurant. What kind of food should you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 01:51 PM |
| – | Why is the question, "What do you bring to the table?" so offensive to some?They really don't understand (or act oblivious to) the gap between "yeah I'll fuck you" and "yeah I want to be in a relationship with you". It's as clueless as the men who give money to OF girls and fantasize that they have a chance with them. Bro, you're not going to get a hot girl just because a hot girl accepted your credit card info. Similarly: lady, you're not going to get a relationship with a hot guy just because a hot guy let you blow him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 12:34 PM |
| – | Why is the question, "What do you bring to the table?" so offensive to some?I don't ask this question on a date No, of course not. Only a complete autist would ask that question on a date. The question is being asked on platforms like tiktok as part of a general conversation between men and women. And as you said, it's intended as an exercise to encourage women to think about how relationships should be organized. We've all seen the many, many videos of women asked to rate themselves and we've seen them all apparently actually believing that they're "perfect 10s" - hone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 11:47 AM |
| 1 | CMV : For a woman to want to commit most of her mortal life to a man and grant him exclusive access, he SHOULD be pretty impressive, not just a guy who existswomen have inherently got more value than men Young women do, yes. If a man's value is providing, then his value is fairly constant from year to year - and actually it increases into his 40s at least. If a woman's value is youth and beauty, then it's a bright star that burns out quickly. The reason your view on this issue is wrong, and should be changed, is that you are only considering the instantaneous value. You need to consider the sum over a number of years. I realize there's no standard me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 09:01 AM |
| – | CMV : RP's standards mainly filter out high libido/mutual attraction and lead to transactional relationships/ dead bedroom and is a terrible dating tacticGreat job! You're half way there!! pick a video check! link to it check! provide a time stamp . present an argument against what is said at the timestamp. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 12:54 PM |
| – | CMV : RP's standards mainly filter out high libido/mutual attraction and lead to transactional relationships/ dead bedroom and is a terrible dating tacticIt's so dishonest for you to give me a search query. And yet for some reason, you believe yourself to be really clever. Here's a hint: your search results are different than mine because youtube is a platform that tries to show you more stuff that you've watched in the past. Look, if you really believe that you're in the right here, then prove it. pick a video link to it provide a time stamp present an argument against what is said at the timestamp. I swear to god I have to drag every single blu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 03:30 AM |
| – | CMV : RP's standards mainly filter out high libido/mutual attraction and lead to transactional relationships/ dead bedroom and is a terrible dating tacticWhat’s straw man Anything you claim without supporting it should be assumed to be either a straw man or an outright lie. It's 2023 and we have "links" - it is totally reasonable for everyone to expect you to cite sources when you make claims. It's fascinating to me how often blue pillers will say something like, "the red pill always says X" and they never ... NEVER link to examples. That's a real problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 12:20 AM |
| 0 | CMV : RP's standards mainly filter out high libido/mutual attraction and lead to transactional relationships/ dead bedroom and is a terrible dating tacticUh huh. Do you get my point though that you should actually link to something specific that you disagree with? Otherwise, we're just having a conversation about a straw man that you invented. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 01:46 PM |
| 4 | CMV : RP's standards mainly filter out high libido/mutual attraction and lead to transactional relationships/ dead bedroom and is a terrible dating tacticMy attempt to change your view is to point out that the claims you make in your post don't actually come from TRP. Do you disagree? If so, please link me to a few posts in TRP that you're disagreeing with so that I can see what you're talking about in context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Guys who try and have sex quickly with women (first date), is it because you already ruled them out as gf material?is it because you already ruled them out as gf material? lol no. It's because sex is the thing I'm after - even if I wanted a wife or girlfriend, I'd want her for sex. Even having children would be a secondary consideration. So, since I'm after sex, I shoot my shot and try to have sex. It's not my job to set the price of sex. That's her job. If it turns out that the price she charges for sex is very low, then great! Free sex. If it turns out that the price is very high (some women even requiring… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 04:44 PM |
| 3 | How are men who are finally getting the chance to date and women who have been dating since their twenty's compatible?the men that collect snatches like they're playing Pokemon Go (only to whip around and whine about it being hard to find a low n-count woman) Please link me to a comment by a man indicating that he is both (a) "collect[ing] snatches" and also (b) "whin[ing] about it being hard to find a low n-count woman" I'd like to see in context what you're referring to here. Thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 07:43 PM |
| 1 | How are men who are finally getting the chance to date and women who have been dating since their twenty's compatible?Well let me ask you this, would I be permitted to post a thread noting the inability of people on his side of the debate to provide citations for their claims? I've collected many examples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 07:43 PM |
| 1 | How are men who are finally getting the chance to date and women who have been dating since their twenty's compatible?Which definition of troll are you using? I notice a trend among people here that they make a claim - in this case the claim is that there are men who "collect snatches" and also "whine about it being hard to find low n-count women" So I very politely ask him to show me an example. How exactly is that trolling? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 07:25 PM |
| 1 | How are men who are finally getting the chance to date and women who have been dating since their twenty's compatible?Congratulations! You have been selected as today's blue-piller who has made an unsupported claim! You will now be challenged to provide a link to a comment or comments that you feel support your claim. the men that collect snatches like they're playing Pokemon Go (only to whip around and whine about it being hard to find a low n-count woman) Please link me to a comment by a man indicating that he is both (a) "collect[ing] snatches" and also (b) "whin[ing] about it being hard to find a low n-coun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 04:08 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The fact that Red Pillers still want their daughters to be educated girlbosses is hypocriticalI can't remember ever seeing a blue piller support one of their claims. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 01:59 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The fact that Red Pillers still want their daughters to be educated girlbosses is hypocriticalI can absolutely provide citations. I await with bated breath! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 01:29 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The fact that Red Pillers still want their daughters to be educated girlbosses is hypocriticalSure they do I challenge you to support this claim by providing links. I want to see examples in context of what you're claiming here. They convince short men that women only prefer tall men. That's a lie! Here's a citation - quote: "There's variation in every generation ... it's possible to find a woman who likes short men, but in TRP we would say that women tend to like tall men because the vast majority do." You lie when you claim that TRP's position is, "women only like tall men." TRP's actu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 01:12 PM |
| 6 | CMV: The fact that Red Pillers still want their daughters to be educated girlbosses is hypocriticalDo you understand the difference between: (1) here's my advice - here's what I think is best for .... anyone, doesn't have to be women. ...and... (2) you are my son/daughter; if you want to go to college I'll support you. An example of part (1): I have a master's degree in software engineering, but if you were 18 and you asked me for career advice, I would say don't go into this field. But (2) if you're my son/daughter and you really want to study SE and I have a college fund that I've been cont… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 12:20 PM |
| 1 | If women used the word "compromise" instead of "settle", things would be better.I don't expect a man to change behaviors or routines to date me. Do you date losers? No. See, what you (apparently) don't realize is that you expect men to make something of themselves before dating you. You wait at the finish line and you pick the winners. But you have no empathy for men's struggles (and that's fine, I don't really expect you to) so, having picked a winner, you say "I don't expect him to change" - you pretend he didn't already have to change as a prerequisite. All of this is pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/23 03:14 PM |
| 18 | Studies saying women are "happier single" than men are extremely misleadingResearches originally thought “out of the room” meant literally that Wait, the researchers didn't conduct the survey?? What the hell is going on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 06:01 PM |
| 1 | 9% of young women are single and sexually active.Why do you make claims without supporting them?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 05:58 PM |
| 1 | A lot of the toxicity around pill spheres has to do with missing out on young love and stunted social development as a resultMy attempt to change your view hinges on asking you for a source for this belief: the idea that ... men in their 40s will have the ability to pick and choose any women they want Please link me to one or two specific examples where you've seen red-pilled men make this claim. I want to see what you're talking about in context. See, what *I* think TRP says to men is that IF you work hard, you can increase your value. That in no way implies that you can "pick and choose any woman you want" - in fact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 01:40 PM |
| 1 | 9% of young women are single and sexually active.My attempt to change your view is to focus on these two statements: is it really that surprising that they go for the most attractive men? and ask you to support them. Who have you seen who you feel is "surprised" by this? Show me links. All of these guy’s complaints about the difficulty in obtaining casual sex Link me to people complaining. I mean it. I want to see exactly what you're talking about in context. What specifically are the complaints. It's easy to to TRP and find threads like these… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/23 12:20 PM |
| 2 | The only reason the concept of the redpill is popular is because it actually gives tangible solutions.Being pushy, pressuring, strong arming and bullying Congratulations! You have been chosen as today's Blue Piller Making Unsupported Claims! I will now ask you to support your claims by providing links to red pill content that you feel advocates "being pushy, pressuring, strong arming and bullying" so that I can see what you're talking about in context. Note: no blue piller has ever stepped up to this challenge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/23 04:11 PM |
| 2 | I've had 40 Hinge dates. I firmly believe a woman's initial interest in a man has a window of time to it.Appreciate that. Here it is more fleshed out. This principle of (intelligently, respectfully) pushing boundaries has served me really well. I actually remember when I discovered it and the first girl I tried it with - funny story, and good fucking times! Wish I had known it at 18 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/23 01:43 PM |
| 13 | I've had 40 Hinge dates. I firmly believe a woman's initial interest in a man has a window of time to it.that flirty resistance It's a huge part of what you mentioned in your previous comment: women want to be in a romance. A huge component of real actual romance is her perception that her man wants her so much that he's barely able to contain himself. It's an art, for sure. You have to calibrate it to be just slightly more than she's willing to grant right now. If you jump way ahead, then you're just an aggressive creep. And if you act like you're "sneaking" then that'll turn her off too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/23 01:05 AM |
| 23 | I've had 40 Hinge dates. I firmly believe a woman's initial interest in a man has a window of time to it.Here’s something I’ve said on TRP 100 times: it’s best to be a little “out in front” in terms of moving things forward. Let her reign you in a bit. It’s good when she does that, and you’re cool with it (you don’t get butthurt). Let’s her know she’s desired and respected. That said, I also agree on the first date kids thing. If you can’t at least get that far, then she’s not feeling it and she only hangs out because she’s bored and has nothing else to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/23 10:59 PM |
| 1 | You can't expect women to care about "purity", as long as they keep getting inconsistent messages from men.....These aren't the same people. Also, they're not saying these things to the same women. If you're a virgin, literally nobody ever (and I dare you to link to an example that proves me wrong) is telling you that you have to put out. If you make every guy wait, then fine, no problem. The only problem is when you put out immediately for some men, and then tell other men to wait. If you do that, then men who call bullshit are not giving you "inconsistent messages" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 07:19 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Complimenting a woman you're interested in on looks is dumb and almost always detrimental.You are free to establish a 300 date rule if you like. The only time a dude will have a legitimate reason to be upset is if you make different rules for other guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/23 01:38 AM |
| 6 | CMV: Complimenting a woman you're interested in on looks is dumb and almost always detrimental.For the same reasons you listed, should women not compliment men either? Ah yes, the core blue pill belief: men and women are the same I always love to see it stated so directly. Thank you. I'll go ahead and answer your question directly though: whenever you swap the gender of a situation, you also have to swap the gender role - and in this case, the strategy. Women's (often subconscious) strategy is to seek exclusive access to a man's resources if she's going to have sex with him. If as a man y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/23 11:45 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Sexually desiring “innocence” and “purity” is hedonisticI can get banned if I link PPD or related subs That's not true. I post links all the time. I actually collect instances of blue pillers like you making completely unsupported claims and then refusing to back them up. Here's the last time I posted a summary. Also, when *I* make a claim, I back it up with sources. Here's a recent case where I provided six examples. Why can't you do this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/23 06:01 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Sexually desiring “innocence” and “purity” is hedonisticmany men have this sentiment Please cite one or two examples so that I can see what you're talking about in context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/23 04:28 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Sexually desiring “innocence” and “purity” is hedonisticwhat is this hysteria that RP dudes have that women aren’t having pity sex with random guys who aren’t attractive? Please cite one or two examples of this phenomenon so that I can see what you're talking about in context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/23 03:33 PM |
| 3 | Male Delusion Calculator!53% I left "not married" unchecked, which seems like kind of a hack as far as the calculation goes. But since I'm not looking to get married, I don't much care if a married woman in an open relationship wants to bang. Also I'm super okay with tall girls. I'd date someone even taller than me; it's not a problem from my perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 08:14 AM |
| 1 | Things that women support the most are about avoiding the responsibility that women being equal implyIt’s an imbalance because only one person has to Go through a medical condition or procedure no matter what is chosen. True, but there are two rights that are currently conferred by abortion: (1) bodily autonomy (2) deciding whether or not to accept the responsibility of a child It'd be easy to separate those two rights. It'd be easy to let women retain the right to bodily autonomy, by keeping the medical procedure, but not let her opt-out of responsibility. Instead of letting her opt-out of the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Women of Reddit, what is your actual body count vs. the body count you tell the men you're with when they ask?May I ask what country you're from? The idea of going to another city and having sex with someone is baffling to me. It is apparently really common. I actually live in a city that is a big tourist destination, and a common destination for corporate conventions and such. When I meet a girl from out of town, my chances of banging her are significantly higher than when I meet a local. Most of my experience predates tinder and the like, but I know for a fact that women get on Tinder when they travel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/23 09:36 PM |
| 1 | Most women sexually desire the same small percentage of men the most, based on the data. But most women aren’t dating those same few men. Does that mean most women are settling in their relationships for men they don’t find sexually desirable?Projection's not gonna save you here, buddy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/23 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Most women sexually desire the same small percentage of men the most, based on the data. But most women aren’t dating those same few men. Does that mean most women are settling in their relationships for men they don’t find sexually desirable?oh shit! It's even worse than I thought! You're assuming other men are feeling the same way you feel (you apparently want to cry) and you're *bragging* that you managed to ... not cry That's really not the dunk you imagined it was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/23 01:14 AM |
| 1 | Most women sexually desire the same small percentage of men the most, based on the data. But most women aren’t dating those same few men. Does that mean most women are settling in their relationships for men they don’t find sexually desirable?*woosh* | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/23 07:56 PM |
| 7 | Most women sexually desire the same small percentage of men the most, based on the data. But most women aren’t dating those same few men. Does that mean most women are settling in their relationships for men they don’t find sexually desirable?I met the guys Lol! This story gets better and better! Did you shake hands and pretend to be friends? Did you smile as they hugged your girl and laugh as they joked about “old times” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/23 12:33 PM |
| 1 | Dating is just a waste of time and money these days.Why did you even post this thread if you're not going to argue your position? You can't site an example where love is unconditional. I DID site counterexamples. So, another W for me I guess. Pretty typical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/23 04:28 PM |
| 2 | Dating is just a waste of time and money these days.Love is unconditional Saying it is unconditional doesn't make it so. Love is conditional. If you disagree, then offer a counterexample. I brought up parents specifically to head-off the most common counterexample. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/23 01:19 PM |
| -1 | Dating is just a waste of time and money these days.transactional and conditional, which isn't what love is. Hate to break it to you my guy, but love is transactional and conditional. Even your parents are "getting something" out of the transaction - you carry their genes. It's kin selection. As to conditions, if you love someone without any conditions at all, you're setting yourself up to be abused. If someone is abusing you, you should stop loving them, and if you don't then you're a fool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/23 01:06 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about the lonely but successfull men who get a fwb with money instead of getting married?ladies, form a line! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/23 09:20 PM |
| 3 | What do you think about the lonely but successfull men who get a fwb with money instead of getting married?"How dare a man a worthless, piece of shit man desire a partner who maintains her physical appearance!!" This is literal patriarchy. This is what the patriarchy is. Yup. lol. Imagine a woman saying she doesn't want to get married because she has observed that after marriage, men take their wives for granted - no more date nights, no more valentines day. Imagine her saying that, then imagine how eagerly you would support her and how quickly you'd "yassqueen" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/23 09:05 PM |
| 6 | What do you think about the lonely but successfull men who get a fwb with money instead of getting married?She's selling herself short living with that weirdo Yeah fuck him for being short. ...or I guess, don't fuck him because he's not worthy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/23 03:50 PM |
| 2 | How do redpillers justify sleeping around if they diminish the worth of women?redpillers seem to be ok with fucking as many women as they want but at the same time complaining about too many women with low value Please me to a few examples where the same red piller does both of those things. I really need to seem what you’re taking about in context | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/23 07:06 PM |
| 14 | Modern women who want to be treated traditionally…This is my experience with blue pillers as well. They don't cite sources, and they don't (can't) defend their positions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 04:34 PM |
| 9 | The officially published and recirculated data on female breadwinners is not only wrong but also deliberately misleading.Isn't it amazing how blue pillers will contort themselves to dodge an issue? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 04:19 PM |
| 1 | If there are more single men than single women, then women would rather be a side piece than date a man in their own leagueWhy do these steeds stand ready dight? Why watch these warriors, arm'd, by night? They watch, to hear the blood-hound baying? They watch to hear the war-horn braying; To see St. George's red cross streaming, To see the midnight beacon gleaming: They watch, against Southern force and guile, Lest Scroop, or Howard, or Percy's powers, Threaten Branksome's lordly towers, From Warkwork, or Naworth, or merry Carlisle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 01:20 AM |
| 1 | If there are more single men than single women, then women would rather be a side piece than date a man in their own leagueI can read just fine I just demonstrated that you can't. Want me to repeat it for you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 10:41 PM |
| 1 | If there are more single men than single women, then women would rather be a side piece than date a man in their own leagueYou are a blue piller. And predictably, you have poor reading comprehension. My claim was: "You cannot find millions of videos of men (who can get sex) saying they're lonely" And your reply was: "you're finding millions of videos like that" Your reply was irrelevant, as is typical for blue pillers. If you don't understand the difference between red and blue pill, I can try to explain it to you, but I doubt you'd read that either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 10:32 PM |
| 1 | If there are more single men than single women, then women would rather be a side piece than date a man in their own leagueIf you're finding millions of videos like that (among hundreds of millions by the way on other content) it's due to your algorithm or what interests you. I'm not, actually. But that's irrelevant. I have to tell you, I am so goddamn tired of having to repeat myself to you blue pillers. I really don't think you even know what I'm claiming here. I articulated my position really well, and you haven't rebutted it. If you want to continue, then I need for you to prove that you actually read what I wro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 09:22 PM |
| 1 | If there are more single men than single women, then women would rather be a side piece than date a man in their own leagueTikTok is not evidence Everything is evidence. There's no reason to believe that there's some bias resulting in millions of videos of women saying they're lonely, and almost none of men in the same situation. TikTok is provocation for views, theater, performance, comedy, and not representative of a demographic of people. The fact that it is designed to garner views is exactly what makes it representative of people. You cannot find millions of videos of men (who can get sex) saying they're lonely… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 08:32 PM |
| 1 | If there are more single men than single women, then women would rather be a side piece than date a man in their own leagueAnd this is so, so (pathetically) typical of blue pillers, you make claims like this: your mindset right now is atrocious and undateable. With no argument at all to back it up. You can't quote a single sentence from my entire reddit history and present an argument that it's wrong. You can make empty claims all day, but there's nothing - nothing at all - that you can ever present an argument for. All that you have is your feelings. You see things and you feel a certain way. There's no intellectua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 07:05 PM |
| 0 | If there are more single men than single women, then women would rather be a side piece than date a man in their own leagueThe difference in happiness is 50% men vs 60% women being single. No, I think you're missing an important component here, which I tried to very explicitly articulate. I'm not talking about general happiness and therefore, it's irrelevant that X% men vs. Y% women in general. What I'm saying is, (1) most women have access to sex. (2) women in group 1 who do not also have access to commitment tend to be unhappy. (3) a few men also have access to sex. (4) men in group 3 don't have an issue with lone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 04:39 PM |
| 0 | If there are more single men than single women, then women would rather be a side piece than date a man in their own leagueYour “evidence” is horrible My evidence is sufficient to support the claim I made. This thing is prevalent enough to support youtube channels with endless content. The converse (men who can get sex but complain they can't get girlfriends) is not prevalent enough to support such a channel. What argument do you have against this beyond a handwaving dismissal? your brain thinks You should try it too! she MUST be sexually active If she's not, then it is by choice, so the point stands. It’s simply no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 04:35 PM |
| 0 | If there are more single men than single women, then women would rather be a side piece than date a man in their own leagueYou're unable to defend anything you believe. An intelligent adult would feel shame at that realization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 04:23 PM |
| 2 | If there are more single men than single women, then women would rather be a side piece than date a man in their own leaguesuch passionate vitriol That's baggage that you're bringing into the thread. That's your own bias. It's also irrelevant. You, like all the others I've seen here over the years, cannot defend anything that you believe. Nothing. There is not a single thing you believe that you can actually present an argument for. If you happen to be right about something - like if you know the earth is round - it's pure chance. You can't present an argument for any of it. It's sad, but it really explains a lot ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 04:16 PM |
| 1 | If there are more single men than single women, then women would rather be a side piece than date a man in their own leaguePredictably, no rational response. Nothing that you blue pillers believe is true. You can't defend any of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 04:09 PM |
| 2 | If there are more single men than single women, then women would rather be a side piece than date a man in their own leaguei linked a youtube video I linked a channel and made a claim. My claim which I even put it in italics, just for you was that it's not possible to create a channel with this much content about men complaining about the same issue (i.e. that they can get sex but not girlfriends). That is evidence that this issue affects women more than men. Just like how, you could make a youtube channel about men doing dumb things at work and getting injured. You'd have plenty of content for that channel. But you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 03:54 PM |
| 3 | If there are more single men than single women, then women would rather be a side piece than date a man in their own leagueAs is typical of blue pillers, you aren't able to rebut anything I said. None of you are able to defend anything you believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 03:50 PM |
| -4 | If there are more single men than single women, then women would rather be a side piece than date a man in their own leagueit is not conceivable that women might be more comfortable single than men are There is absolutely no evidence for that, and giant mountains of evidence to the contrary. Women who can get sex (and that's most women) nonetheless often complain that they are lonely and they wish a man would commit to them. Tiktok is full to overflowing with videos like that. This guy's youtube channel is dedicated to highlighting exactly that. first video highlighted: a pretty girl that is undoubtedly sexually act… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 03:12 PM |
| – | 63% of men under 30 describe themselves as single, compared with 34% of women in the same age groupthey call that man average. Well sure. Young women regularly pull 9s and 10s. They calibrate their expectations against those experiences and conclude that 9s are average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/23 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Study finds that only 36% of liberal women think cheating is always wrong, whereas as 71% of conservative women think cheating is always wrong.I was just thinking the same thing about you! If I had really failed to comprehend something relevant, then you would quote it and explain why it's relevant. You didn't because you can't, because I didn't. So when you reply with something as puerile and meaningless as, "you don't have the reading comprehension" then the response you get ... the response you deserve is "no you" Do better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 09:39 PM |
| 1 | Study finds that only 36% of liberal women think cheating is always wrong, whereas as 71% of conservative women think cheating is always wrong.Clearly, I have better comprehension than you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 09:26 PM |
| 1 | Study finds that only 36% of liberal women think cheating is always wrong, whereas as 71% of conservative women think cheating is always wrong.I think Good for you, but you're responding to a comment which cited scientific evidence. So, if you """think""" something else, you need to provide scientific evidence too. Otherwise, it's far more likely that what you think is actually a result of any number of potential biases - notably selection bias, where you participate in left-leaning social media that consistently selects examples to show you. This is similar to a person on 4chan """thinking""" something about minorities. Of course he t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 04:22 PM |
| 0 | Study finds that only 36% of liberal women think cheating is always wrong, whereas as 71% of conservative women think cheating is always wrong.Lots of guy claim to be that kind of conservative here, yet they also say if their wife dead bedrooms them they would instantly cheat. Please provide three or four examples where the same person said both of those things. I'd like to see what you're talking about in context. You claimed there "lots of guys" so it should be easy for you to find several examples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 04:17 PM |
| 3 | A growing number of women these days act like actual incelslol you don't believe that either. If we were discussing the police profiling minorities, you wouldn't pretend that their actions have any legitimacy. God damn, you suck at this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 04:16 PM |
| 1 | A growing number of women these days act like actual incelsYou don't really believe that. What I mean is, you don't really believe that it's okay to judge the entirety of a group based on the bad actions of a tiny minority of its members. You would label that belief islamaphobia, or homophobia, or anti-this or anti-that if applied to any other group. So no, that's not actually the way you think. What I mean is, that logic (a few of them committed crime) isn't the true underlying reason for your position. I wonder if you're even conscious of the real rea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 02:53 PM |
| 1 | There are 50/50 male/female to hookup with each other but somehow there's a mass of men that are struggling but women are chilling. How does this make sense?In response to /u/jWalkerFTW: Are you one of those people that thinks BLM is mutually exclusive? I challenge you to present an argument that it's not exclusive. People were literally marching in the streets with signs like these and putting up posters like these. Meanwhile, if someone suggests that whites matter too, that's considered a hate crime So, I would really like for you to present an argument here. I'm really looking forward to it. My guess is that you'll have to contort yourself and sp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 03:16 PM |
| 3 | Am I the only one on r/PurplePillDebate that doesn't hate this sub?This is one of the best subs In all honesty, it really is. It's one of the few places where both sides actually get to speak. I'm kind of shocked that reddit hasn't shut it down. BTW, I was on reddit back in the early days and every subreddit used to allow disagreements. It was really nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 04:43 PM |
| 10 | The Value of SexHave you not heard the complaints, "he waited months but then still dumped me after we slept together" Actually, no. No I have not. Uh huh. Well, I can easily find examples. I had a friend date a guy for a month and she waited to sleep with him and he up and left after they had sex and ghosted her after. We dates for 5 months, and I waited to have sex with him to make sure he really liked me for me. had friends who waited months or x number of dates to have sex only to be ghosted right after. wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 12:39 PM |
| 13 | The Value of SexThey aren't withholding sex because sex is suddenly a thing of value So sex isn't a thing of value? Got it. And that's inline with the previous behaviors (being promiscuous). So what you say is consistent. they are withholding sex to check if he can see her value beyond the sex. And withholding sex accomplishes that ... how? Exactly? Have you not heard the complaints, "he waited months but then still dumped me after we slept together" Apparently, withholding sex does not demonstrate that he sees… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/23 09:05 PM |
| 1 | The bluepill is too difficult for most men to swallowWhat part of 'it's useful for populations and not individuals' do you not get? What part of "Eye color has no relationship to visual acuity." do you not get? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/23 01:31 PM |
| 9 | The bluepill is too difficult for most men to swallowNah G. I understood you. I was being sarcastic and asking, "did the dumbass blue pillers help you?" because obviously the answer is that no, they can't help you or help anyone. They don't really offer anything even really trying to help. In this forum, and others, they try to attack TRP. That's fine. Help us trim the fat from our positions. But other than telling us what they don't believe, they don't have anything to offer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/23 05:02 AM |
| 4 | The bluepill is too difficult for most men to swallowThey are wrong. Eye color has no relationship to visual acuity. None. Zero. BMI may often be wrong. Fine. But it is related to obesity. Your point is that for individual people, the line between obesity and not is a little higher, or a little lower. Fine. But if your BMI keeps going up, eventually you are a fat fuck. Not so with eye color. Understand? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/23 04:56 AM |
| 4 | The bluepill is too difficult for most men to swallowCare to take a guess what kind of guys I learned this from? Was it from blue pillers who believe there are no real (non cultural construct) differences between men and women? And therefore, they only give advice that is vague and unhelpful like, "just be yourself" - blue pillers who consistently deny objective reality? And since I mentioned weight above, were you helped by blue pillers who spout bullshit like, "Using BMI to determine obesity is like using eye color to determine visual acuity" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/23 04:44 AM |
| 10 | The bluepill is too difficult for most men to swallowtwo obscure posts with 50 upvotes ...is two more than you've provided to support your claims. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/23 04:04 AM |
| 5 | if a man peaked later in life, what type of women will he get compared to his 20 year old selfTake good care of yourself, develop a career and get a few experiences/adventures under your belt, and then hopefully you will be pleasantly surprised that this: I don't think women in their early 20's are going to prefer a hot 35 year old man over a hot 26 year old man isn't really true. And this: that can relate easier towards them. is actually kind of laughable. I've met early 20's girls who have flown on private jets and traveled the world. What exactly do you mean when you say "can relate?"… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/23 03:06 AM |
| 15 | The bluepill is too difficult for most men to swallowSo, here's how this is going to go. It's going to go the same as every other thread where a blue piller makes a claim. I'm going to ask you to provide examples to support your claims, and you're not going to be able to do it. None of you blue pillers are able to support your claims. Here we go: the bluepill tells us that we need to man up and overcome our insecurities Please provide an example of two of someone you consider blue pill giving this advice to men. And note (even if you come through,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/23 02:58 AM |
| 2 | Being labeled as husband material is insult for most guysA woman claiming you are husband material is the ultimate compliment You're not listening. The issue at hand is women saying, "you're not boyfriend material, but you are husband material" There is no possible way to read that as a compliment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/23 12:01 AM |
| 2 | Being labeled as husband material is insult for most guysDenying differences between men and women is a central thesis of the blue pill, yes. It's why they can never give gender-specific advice. They say things like, "treat her like a person" - which is vague to the point of meaninglessness, and has nothing to do with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 07:51 PM |
| 2 | Being labeled as husband material is insult for most guysYou're absolutely wrong. I'm absolutely right, and I linked to half a dozen examples. Two of them had more than 600 upvotes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 07:48 PM |
| 7 | Being labeled as husband material is insult for most guysThose are all post by MEN. Claiming that women said, "You're husband material but not boyfriend material." Can you find EVEN ONE example of a man saying, "you're wife material but I don't want to bang you" Just one. That's all I ask. If you really want a comment by a woman, here you go (they're really not hard to find): there are three comments by women in this thread I can't believe you're just outright denying that women say this. It’s literally a bunch of men trying to tell women what they th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 06:32 PM |
| 5 | Being labeled as husband material is insult for most guysIt is some made up bullshit narrative So, when men report to you that they've heard women say, "I do not want to date you now, but you're husband material so maybe in a few years we can get together" ... you just deny that "lived experience" - that's a bit anti-progressive of you. So, a comment like this one that has 600 upvotes - you think he's just lying? Or this comment - just made up? Or this one? Can you find even one example of a man saying, "you are wife material but I don't want to bang … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 06:00 PM |
| 5 | Being labeled as husband material is insult for most guysIn general, blue pillers deny the basics of human sexuality: men trade commitment for sex, and women trade sex for commitment. It's a bit like saying that a store trades goods for money, and a consumer trades money for goods. A marriage is commitment. Let's say it's the "goods" in this analogy. That means money is sex. "You're husband material ... but I don't want to have sex with you" is like a consumer saying, "sure, I wouldn't mind having those goods ... but I don't want to pay money for them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Being labeled as husband material is insult for most guysI’m not sure why you and the op are pushing this false narrative that it’s insulting. Do you understand that the context in which women use the term "husband material" is, "I don't want to have sex with you" Do you understand that? I have never even said it to any man I’ve dated ...so, you have said it? ...just not to a man you dated. because they weren’t deserving of the compliment. lolol. Not dating a man is not a compliment. There are two groups of men (according to you). Those you dated/had … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 05:28 PM |
| 12 | Being labeled as husband material is insult for most guysI always considered being called wife material a huge compliment It is, because when men call a woman "wife material" they mean that she's more than just attractive. Attractive is a prerequisite. "Wife material" means you also want to spend your life with her. It’s the same for husband material. No, it's not. Because when women call a man "husband material" they mean he's not attractive, but he'll do when she gets older and can no longer party. You could easily change this. You could easily star… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 05:24 PM |
| 10 | Being labeled as husband material is insult for most guysIt won’t be seen as a compliment If that's the case, then you ought to be able to find an example. For comparison, I can easily find examples of "wife material" being used in a positive way, to mean, "an attractive woman that I'd like to spend my life with" example 1 example 2 example 3 example 4 Can you find even one example where someone says, "you are wife material" and what they mean is, "you're not attractive" Just one? Can you find just one?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 05:17 PM |
| 33 | Being labeled as husband material is insult for most guysI would love to hear your thought process on this: I think most women in their early 20s would react similarly to be called “wife material.” What does that mean? Am I dowdy? Matronly? Unsexy? Boring? When have you ever heard an unsexy, boring woman called "wife material?" Unlike women, men don't get married to people they don't find attractive. Being called "wife material" is entirely a compliment with no negative connotations at all. I'm genuinely curious why you think otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 03:45 PM |
| 1 | There are 50/50 male/female to hookup with each other but somehow there's a mass of men that are struggling but women are chilling. How does this make sense?Well, picking up a girl and fucking her for the first time is pretty great though. Also, for a particularly attractive guy, it's not an either-or proposition. They have FWBs too. One of my favorite stories to tell is about the guy who forgot (yes, legitimately forgot) that he had a girl waiting for him in his bed, and he brought home a new one. But yeah, an FWB is a great gig too, in and of itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/23 08:13 PM |
| 17 | There are 50/50 male/female to hookup with each other but somehow there's a mass of men that are struggling but women are chilling. How does this make sense?For a start, there's a difference in libido between men and women. A woman might have a friend that she trusts and with whom she occasionally hooks up. Having that friend greatly alters her dating behavior - especially if you're comparing her to a man. On a weekend, she might go on a date (dates are easy for her to get), or maybe not. She doesn't feel any great "need" to go on a date. She might just prefer to go out with girlfriends. On a date, if she's not feeling a connection, she politely con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/23 04:04 PM |
| 9 | [Video] Woman way over her prime reached out to 43 matches after xmas only one responded that saw here as a cum dumpster, her conclusion: clearly no one wants to take today anymore on Tinder..r/purplePillDebate Theoretically, it's a subreddit for red pill and blue pill to debate each other. In practice, it's blue pillers posting straw men about the red pill and failing to support their claims with links. Anyway, if you want a good laugh (I made a couple of funny memes, I think), here's the most recent example where a blue piller claimed that men actually prefer old women, but alas we can't get them so we "make do" with young women. And here's the time before that. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 05/01/23 12:59 AM |
| 23 | [Video] Woman way over her prime reached out to 43 matches after xmas only one responded that saw here as a cum dumpster, her conclusion: clearly no one wants to take today anymore on Tinder..I’ve had not one but two women on PPD tell me that the only possible reason a man would go after younger women is that he “can’t get” women his own age. The delusion is strong with the blue pillers. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 04/01/23 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Lonely single men who get little to no sexual attention project their loneliness onto women about to hit the mythical wallyou are saying that Saying what? You didn't quote any portion of my post so I have no fucking clue what you're responding to. Based on what are there no old men complaining about dating? *facepalm* You also didn't actually read my post. Here, I'll quote something for you since you're not capable of it: "Your post, where you are denying the existence of that group of old women ... simply because not all women follow that trajectory, is as misguided as if I denied the existence of incels ... simpl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 07:15 AM |
| 34 | Lonely single men who get little to no sexual attention project their loneliness onto women about to hit the mythical wallHere's the thing, OP: there are two groups of people who are both (a) complaining about their frustrations in dating and (b) are large enough to warrant discussion. Those groups are: (1) young men (incels) (2) old women (the "where are all the good men?" types) You'll note that there really aren't sizable numbers of old men complaining about dating. Some of this is due to men becoming more comfortable being alone as we age. Men get old and take up hobbies like fishing where we enjoy (genuinely e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 03:01 PM |
| 4 | women are not self-aware on how badly they treat menHamstering is post-hoc rationalization. Men do it too. Men don’t monkey branch because we aren’t hypegamous. We’re polygamous by nature so the equivalent male behavior would be plain old cheating. The wall describes a decrease in a woman’s attractiveness as she gets older - but it’s only a thing because women have intrinsic value when they’re young. Men have to attain value and most don’t. Reality is actually much worse for men. If you wanted a word to describe it (similar to the wall) that word… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 07:20 PM |
| 0 | Women can easily find relationships within online datingI too could go on to Google and find data that matched my overall outlook. Prove it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/22 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Women would do better in dating if they involved the men in their family with mate selectionHeh. Yeah I was about to make the same point. The whole “meet her dad and get his approval” doesn’t matter if you’re already banging her. When you fuck a girl (assuming you’re good at it and she still has the capacity for pair bonding) she gets feelings, in which case there’s no point in meeting the family, or she doesn’t, in which case there’s no point in meeting the family (her dad isn’t going to talk her into attraction) Modern women are basically just hopelessly lost. I feel kind of sorry fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/22 01:11 AM |
| -1 | Women would do better in dating if they involved the men in their family with mate selectionan unmarried date (in other words someone who isn't my spouse) would be unwelcome in the home. Yes. Your mother disapproves of you fucking dudes in her house. If only there was a way to meet your mother outside of her house, like in a restaurant. Ah. If only. Also, if you had a policy of meeting the family before sex she’d be thrilled | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/22 01:06 AM |
| 1 | Redpill content online is so cherry-picked that it’s often disingenuous and inaccurate.The woman in the NY street harassment video was walking around all types of people I just want to make sure I understand you: are you saying that all demographics of men are equally likely to speak to her? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/22 03:47 PM |
| 16 | Redpill content online is so cherry-picked that it’s often disingenuous and inaccurate.You know, at some point, when they've dumped an entire mountain of "cherries" on you, it's no longer "cherry picking" At some point, you have to acknowledge that the ease with which these channels find this content, and the never ending supply of this content means something. Look, compare the examples you cited to any other issue. Do you remember that "10 hours of walking in New York" video from a few years ago? The issue being demonstrated there was street harassment. But out of ten hours of v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/22 04:15 AM |
| 0 | Its true, women don't make any effort in datingsince the rise of swiping apps, OLD has completely changed in that the women basically have OLD ADD. That's a really astute observation. I agree, but never really had a good term for it. I've never done OLD but my dating experiences follow very closely to your examples. I assumed it was because I was just getting older. Since I'm meeting and picking up girls IRL, I can judge early if there's actual interest, and if we vibe. And yet, especially since covid, I still get ghosted sometimes. It's rea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 02:52 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men want women more then women want men, and that’s why we don’t care about your standards.You’re not going to shame women into changing or lowering their standards Can you please link me to an example that you've seen, where you feel a man is "shaming women into lowering her standards" I'd really like to see what you're talking about in context. I suspect that what's going on is, a woman initiates the conversation by complaining that men wont commit to her. In that context, it might be appropriate to give her a reality check with regard to her standards. women (largely) aren’t desper… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 01:52 PM |
| 6 | It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. Bluepill needs to provide a better explanation for these experiences, not argue that the experiences themselves don't happenI wonder how far I'd have to scroll to see a red pill post based off empirical evidence In TRP itself? About this far. Now here's a question for you: how far would I have to scroll in PPD to find someone who disagrees with TRP and actually links to it so that I can see what they're talking about in context? I often ask for context, but I don't get it. My conclusion is that TRP does (at least attempt to) support itself with science. But when blue pillers disagree with TRP, they don't generally su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 04:00 PM |
| 10 | Apparently a good way to tell if a woman is promiscuous is how worked up and defensive she gets when you bring up body count and the stud/slut debate.The general volume is a red flag too. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 11/12/22 01:04 PM |
| 13 | Both men and women in relationships are far better off in every metric than those who aren’t. We should acknowledge thispeople in happy relationships are happy. Yeah, it's survivorship bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 04:42 PM |
| 11 | Dating apps have caused the destruction of actual, meaningful loveThe percentage of guys who would turn down a woman they are otherwise interested in because she approached first is too small to offset the bigger pool of prospects. Well, keep in mind though, if a lot of women started doing that, given the way women's sexuality works, they'd all be approaching the same 10% of men. See, what you're pointing out (and you're right) is that most men (almost all, in fact) would be happy if a woman approached him. But most men wont get approached. Especially not "col… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/22 09:39 PM |
| 1 | How do we "choose better partners"?I've even repeated my position or that point about YOU several times. Then you're not really making a claim. You're making an accusation. I mean, consider this: you have demanded that I "prove [you] wrong" You want me to argue against you. Okay, but if all you're doing is making this accusation: YOU can't get a woman your age then how do I possibly "prove" that wrong? Shall I dox myself? Is that what you want? Are you expecting a picture of me in the downstroke on some granny, while holding a si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/22 01:01 PM |
| 1 | How do we "choose better partners"?If I was actually making a straw man, you would quote the portion you disagree with and correct it. Instead, you're dancing around it. If you want me to argue against your position, you have a responsibility to articulate that position as clearly as possible. This is my attempt to steel-man your position; it's based on direct quotes by you in this thread: (you believe that) men do not actually prefer younger women, and only pursue younger women because they cannot get older women. You believe me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/22 11:49 AM |
| 1 | How do we "choose better partners"?you need to go after younger women According to you, men would actually prefer older women, but older women are sadly out of reach? So men just sort of "make do" with younger women? This is what you actually believe? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/22 11:20 AM |
| 1 | How do we "choose better partners"?You failed to prove me wrong. And just to be clear, your claim is that men actually prefer older women, but chase younger women for the "sole reason" that they "can't get" older women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/22 07:28 AM |
| 1 | How do we "choose better partners"?Said nothing about preferring. ah! Trying to walk it back eh? Here's what you said: You can't get women your age. Why would that be a problem unless I desire older women? It wouldn't make sense to say, "you can't date Brad Pitt" because you're aware, I'm sure, that I have no desire to date him. Your whole point is that (you believe) I have a desire to date older women, but "gosh darn!" they're out of reach. You go on: You go for [younger women] for the sole reason that they will put up with your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/22 01:17 PM |
| 1 | How do we "choose better partners"?You’re so desperate to be petty. It’s almost endearing. But your point was, you claim that I would prefer an older woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/22 11:39 AM |
| 1 | How do I know whether a potential partner consumes red pill content?I don’t need any advice Right. That’s exactly what I said. You’re agreeing with me but because you didn’t actually read my comment, you think you’re disagreeing. It’s amazing… and kind of sad.., but very very typical | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/22 11:37 AM |
| 3 | How do I know whether a potential partner consumes red pill content?Nope *sigh* so you agree with the point I made above? Or are you just not reading the comments you reply to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 07:01 PM |
| 2 | How do I know whether a potential partner consumes red pill content?...so you need advice on avoiding repulsive men who offer to pay you money?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 03:39 PM |
| 16 | How do I know whether a potential partner consumes red pill content?lol nice!! I love the ridiculousness of OP's question: "I'm attracted to this man ... but maybe I shouldn't be" TRP at its core simply means (a) a desire to know the truth about human sexuality - what are women really attracted to and (b) a desire to change ourselves into that. A gender-flipped version (wouldn't that be great) would be a group of women who theorized that men like feminine, cooperative women who show respect and appreciation and want to have sex with us. So then there'd be a subr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 02:46 PM |
| 1 | How do I know whether a potential partner consumes red pill content?Here's the thing: the only purpose of "the red pill" is to change ourselves into whatever it is that you are attracted to. If all women collectively decided that the most attractive thing in the world is a man who is good at math, then by tomorrow night TRP would be full of posts saying, "teach me calculus!" So, you mention andrew tate. Are the things he says actually true? If they're actually true - if he's giving advice that makes men more attractive to you, then what exactly is the problem?? … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 02:33 PM |
| 1 | How do we "choose better partners"?[this is what blue pillers actually believe] | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 02:11 PM |
| 2 | How do we "choose better partners"?can't get women his own age. LOLOL!! woe is me!! Condemned for all eternity to bang only young women in their prime What a terrible cross this is for me to bear. What a burden! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 01:54 PM |
| 1 | How do we "choose better partners"?[this is what blue pillers actually believe] | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 01:38 PM |
| 1 | How do we "choose better partners"?You can't get women your age. You go for the 18 year old for this sole reason as they will put up with your shit. [this is what blue pillers actually believe] | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 01:18 PM |
| 1 | How do we "choose better partners"?Hard to make something up when you making it obvious. No, you literally invented it. You attributed to me something that you said. Let's go through it step by step. I said: "A lot of men throw commitment at women (we call these men simps or orbiters). Do they get sex? LOL, no." I'm repeating that statement here just to highlight that you didn't disagree with it. You have no issue with me criticizing men. But in the next sentence, I criticize women and that is what you have a problem with. That m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/22 04:42 PM |
| 1 | I love being a man and I would not want to be born any other way.society doesn't like it. Yes it does. You just have a terminal victim complex. Literally nobody is telling you that they “don’t like” that you are able to persevere | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/22 01:05 PM |
| 1 | How do we "choose better partners"?I “go for” anyone I find attractive. Younger women tend to be more attractive. You know that’s true. Everyone knows it’s true. There’s a reason there’s a “forever 21” but no “forever 41” they are easier That’s some supermassive cope right there. You know full well that older women are easier because they’re less desirable to everyone, including you if you’re able to be honest. The easiest woman in the world to pick up is one approaching 40 who sees the way you dress and act and is thinks you’re … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/22 11:32 AM |
| 1 | How do we "choose better partners"?No they don't Is it possible you just haven’t had anyone really like you? Try dating women who are older Lol. Nah | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/22 08:28 AM |
| 3 | How do we "choose better partners"?most women don't do this. they do if they really like you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/22 02:06 AM |
| 6 | Men over 30, do you filter out 30 year old women while looking for serious relationships?uh huh. So when you hear someone say, "men over 30, do you filter out 30 year old women" - you jump in to say "no wai!! I totes date women over 30!!" As opposed to what? Do you think anyone ... including OP, was under the impression that a 58 year old man is going around town like, "pfft no way would I ever date a 30 year old chick!!" Dude. You're FIFTY-FUCKING-EIGHT. Everybody knows that you date women over 30. But men in their 30s date women in their 20s if they can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/22 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Men over 30, do you filter out 30 year old women while looking for serious relationships?dude how old are you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/22 01:15 AM |
| 1 | Men over 30, do you filter out 30 year old women while looking for serious relationships?So the answer to the op is that when you were in your 30s you dated women in their 20s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/22 12:42 AM |
| 0 | How do we "choose better partners"?because patriarchy - or at least, the fantasy of it. Some women get mad if you open doors for them too. Same deal. "I'm strong and independent and I don't need no courtship" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/22 12:11 AM |
| -1 | How do we "choose better partners"?Most women aren't gonna publicly tell you they want the single life back and that they hate being a mom. Again, my advice is to find happy, successful women and ask them for advice. I don't understand what point you think you're making by telling me that lots of women aren't happy. No shit!! I know that most women aren't happy. Most women listen to feminism and fuck up their lives beyond recovery. A lot of women are single moms by choice and they only had the kid because they were desperate. I'm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 10:19 PM |
| -1 | How do we "choose better partners"?This response is fucking hilarious. I'm defensive about the FACT that certain women are statistically more likely to be happy - I'm so defensive that I turn a general "find a successful woman" comment into some kind of stepford wife/handmaids tale fantasy Good luck to you, btw. I hope that you end up happy in your life. But you didn't actually respond to anything I said. And this is oh so typical of you angry blue pillers. Had I said anything that was actually wrong, I'm confident you would quot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 10:10 PM |
| 6 | How do we "choose better partners"?He replies immediately to my texts! "Red flag! He obviously has nothing going on his life!" He replies within an hour or so. "Red flag! He doesn't care enough to call instead of text!" He calls. "Red flag! He interrupts your day and feels entitled to your undivided attention!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 05:17 PM |
| 12 | How do we "choose better partners"?I agree with you for the most part. As to this: The way to choose better is to create a courtship process that eliminates men who are less likely to commit. if anyone feels "courtship" is a dirty word, for some reason, I can suggest another word: negotiation A lot of people are really bad at negotiation. They throw all their value at another person, and then act surprised when they get nothing in return. In general, men want sex and women want commitment. A lot of men throw commitment at women (… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 05:09 PM |
| 2 | How do we "choose better partners"?but they never give advice on how to properly vet these people out. Of course not! I'm a man. If you're trying to catch a man, you shouldn't ask a man. It's like asking a fish how to catch fish. If you want to be successful at something, find someone who has already succeeded at it. The only piece of advice I would give you is, a successful woman is not a 20 year old with a hot boyfriend. That's a trivial accomplishment. A successful woman is 40 years old in a ten year marriage (at least) with a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 04:55 PM |
| 3 | PPD would be far more neutral if people would stop turning general statements into personal attacksYou should not have made a post in this subreddit without citing at least one (and if you're going to claim something happens all the time, you should link 4 or 5) examples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 02:06 PM |
| 1 | PPD would be far more neutral if people would stop turning general statements into personal attacksa bunch of posts that are unrelated to me That's a lie. Every post I linked is related to you because they all have the same failure: they make claims without citing sources. You should not have made a post in this subreddit without citing at least one (and if you're going to claim something happens all the time, you should link 4 or 5) examples. That's not a rule in the sub, but I think it should be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 02:02 PM |
| 8 | PPD would be far more neutral if people would stop turning general statements into personal attacksThe amount of times I've made a comment about general trends only to have someone (typically a man) say "well you're only saying that because you're a slut" or "I bet you're a bad wife because XYZ" or "your perspective is only that way because you are probably old/fat/ugly" is insane. Why don't you link to a few so that we can see what you're talking about?? You've only been on reddit for 1 month! It shouldn't be hard for you to go back through your post history and find two or three (or more) e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 01:29 PM |
| 12 | Now that she's "too old to be jumping from one person to another", she wants "stability, consistency, respect and loyalty". Funny these were the same traits such women rejected back when they said "Being nice is the bare minimum".As a heavy drinker let me assure you, there are lots of good bartenders. Consider making friends with a male bartender. You’ll get just as good service, you won’t be doing work you aren’t paid to do (you mentioned being a bouncer- come in man!), and he’ll actually be a friend outside the bar too. Have you ever hung out with this girl when she’s not on the clock? | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 19/11/22 01:48 PM |
| 13 | Now that she's "too old to be jumping from one person to another", she wants "stability, consistency, respect and loyalty". Funny these were the same traits such women rejected back when they said "Being nice is the bare minimum".Sounds like you might be getting finessed, my friend. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 19/11/22 08:39 AM |
| 1 | What does Average Adam have to offer for ANYONEThat’s a claim not a citation. God damn, you blue pillers. Not a one of you can defend anything you believe. You could go back through my post history and find anything I’ve said and demand that I defend it and I promise you I’ll do better than the pathetic “I just said it so it must be true” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/22 02:28 AM |
| 1 | What does Average Adam have to offer for ANYONEI mean, I have a citation. You just said it. And I asked you what you’d think about men who said it. You said men say it. So I have a citation. Do you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/22 01:19 AM |
| 1 | What does Average Adam have to offer for ANYONECitation needed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/22 12:54 AM |
| 1 | What does Average Adam have to offer for ANYONELol then you’re doomed. Shit. Imagine what you’d say about an average man who said what you just admitted “I only like women who are out of my league” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/22 12:21 AM |
| 2 | What does Average Adam have to offer for ANYONEwoe unto the women who develop a taste for men who are out of their league - they're as lost as the men who look at porn of women out of their league and as a result cannot like the women that are actually available to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/22 10:20 PM |
| 2 | What does Average Adam have to offer for ANYONEWhy, if you’re an average woman getting a fair bit of attention from many other Adams and better guys also, would you go “Right, yeah, I’m going to cut the search short here and spend my life with this guy Why? Because he'll stay with you for your whole life. Here's a truth that women seem oblivious to: for most of your life, you're going to be old. You're an average women """getting a fair bit of attention""" because you're young. The amount of attention you get decreases each year. You're lyin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/22 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Did “common interests/hobbies” ever work for you?Some common interests are really important- a beach girl isn’t going to stay with you through a summer if you don’t like sun and sand. Others are really helpful- it’s nice to have a girl who will go to the gym on the same days as you. I’ve also enjoyed dating girls who ride bikes. Strangely, not running though. Not sure why. Others are irrelevant- I can think of just one example where we liked the same tv shows (but of course, everybody loved breaking bad back then) and none where we read the sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/22 03:10 PM |
| 7 | Genetic research suggests that in prehistoric human hunter-gatherers, more than four women reproduced for every manA lot of boys died young. Learning the hunting trade is dangerous. Hell just playing rough (as boys are oft wont to do) is dangerous. I broke an ankle playing football at 16. Had to have two surgeries. Without those surgeries I never would have walked again. I’m certain that would remove me from the gene pool in a hunter/gatherer tribe. So, the members of these tribes reach puberty with fewer males than females. It’s worth noting that in such circumstances, hypergamy is an important feature. Peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/22 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Shows like "Love is Blind" confirm that it's men, not women, who won't commit to a LTR unless she's the more attractive one (or they're the same level).Average or median? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/22 03:49 AM |
| 5 | Shows like "Love is Blind" confirm that it's men, not women, who won't commit to a LTR unless she's the more attractive one (or they're the same level).no other men are seemingly bothering with You are hopelessly naïve. Every one of those women could make 6 figures on only fans in a week. “No men want these women” lolol hilarious | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/22 02:09 AM |
| 9 | Fiction written by women for women proves The Red PillYou’re just mad that you let the truth slip. I’m perfectly happy and satisfied with my successes on the dating market. I don’t begrudge women their preferences. My comment history will back that up. Knowing the truth has helped me greatly, and made the women I’ve known happier. I’m neither clueless nor hopeless. I’m red pilled and content. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 09:47 PM |
| 13 | Fiction written by women for women proves The Red PillEvery girl has already dated their version of the romance novel trope Hear that, gentlemen? Definitely don’t act like this type of guy that every girl bangs at least once. Perish the thought! No, you want to be like the guy she marries when she’s older and has had her fun and isn’t like that anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 07:19 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women should never have casual sexNo, that's ridiculous. A single note would be fine. A note + 1000 text messages is where you're crossing the line. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 09:21 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women should never have casual sexSo, you think men don't like it when women give them thank you notes?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 09:12 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women should never have casual sexExactly. That's what I said. I did not say what you claimed, which was that women's behavior is about competition for men. 80% of men are invisible to women. They are absolutely not competing for them much less modifying their behavior for those men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 05:14 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Women should never have casual sexIt has nothing to do with competing for men I didn’t say it had to do with competition for men. If I said that, you would have quoted me saying it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 04:52 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women should never have casual sexit’s 3rd wave feminism encouraging this To a certain extent, yes. But also, since the person you're responding to mentioned "pressure to be slutty" I just want to point out that women are in competition with each other for that top 10% of men. It's competition pressure. "Slutty" (in terms of attire and behavior) is basically advertising availability for sex. It's a completely different thing than previous generations of women presented themselves as. It's not at all feminine. It's just female. "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 03:45 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Women should never have casual sexI don't get why men are so extremely against this. You think men are "extremely against" one-night-stands and thank you notes?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 03:37 PM |
| 1 | According to you, what does the "average guy"'s dating life look like, as well as the "average woman"'s?People eat because they get hungry, yes? Here's what you said: "women don't have an appetite for random dick." Allow me to add emphasis to that: "women don't have an appetite for random dick." And here was my response: At no time have I said or even a tiny little bit remotely implied that women will fuck anything that moves (the way men will). If you go back and look at the analogy, it actually features a person saying, "hmm, it's [random time of day] I think I'll have steak" I did NOT suggest t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 11:09 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: What are some red flags in men and which ones do you think you fall under?The most important thing you need to know about a man is how he acts when things don't go his way. when he doesn't get what he wants when something he values is taken from him If you're going to be in a relationship with him (even just a sexual relationship) eventually, you're going to be the cause of both of those things. It might just be by accident - you might wreck his car or something. You probably don't want to be surprised by how he reacts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 10:22 PM |
| 1 | According to you, what does the "average guy"'s dating life look like, as well as the "average woman"'s?You're projecting a male sex drive onto women. No, I don't think I am. At no time have I said or even a tiny little bit remotely implied that women will fuck anything that moves (the way men will). If you go back and look at the analogy, it actually features a person saying, "hmm, it's [random time of day] I think I'll have steak" See how I used the word steak, instead of chicken nuggets? My analogy doesn't suggest, let alone depend on, the Americans eating anything put in front of them. The ana… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 10:15 PM |
| 1 | According to you, what does the "average guy"'s dating life look like, as well as the "average woman"'s?Women aren’t starving for random dick That’s precisely why it’s a good comparison Americans aren’t starving for random food. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 08:40 PM |
| 2 | According to you, what does the "average guy"'s dating life look like, as well as the "average woman"'s?Let us all take a moment to marvel at the juxtaposition of these two statements by /u/hellofromnorcal I’ve never had sex and... a conversation is not a determinant of how well a man performs in bed I mean first of all, I didn't say "a conversation." I said, "in the 200 steps between hello and sex, it's your responsibility to watch how he treats you, and to determine if he's attentive and caring." For you to condense, "200 steps ... during which you watch how he treats you and determine if he's a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 06:07 PM |
| 2 | According to you, what does the "average guy"'s dating life look like, as well as the "average woman"'s?“Picking them” as if we could see the future. You're pretending that humans go from "hello" to sex with nothing in between. And you're pretending that, having said "hello" there's no possible way you can know what this person is like in bed. Here's the deal: it's your responsibility to vet a man before having sex. Step 1 is saying "hello" - in the 200 steps between hello and sex, it's your responsibility to watch how he treats you, and to determine if he's attentive and caring. I'm afraid the fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 03:49 PM |
| 1 | According to you, what does the "average guy"'s dating life look like, as well as the "average woman"'s?They’re just not enjoyable to have sex with I'm sorry that you have such bad judgment that you've chosen low quality men to have sex with, and have become jaded to the point that you believe the problem is with men in general. Other women, who made different choices than you, had better experiences. I would say the same thing to a man who claims "all women are boring starfish in bed" - I would say, no, they really aren't, you just suck at picking them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 03:05 PM |
| 1 | This world of sexual encounters is very alien to me.Why can't we just be introverted and happy regardless of our "body count" or sexual experience? You can! Furthermore, getting everything that ever you desired wont make you happy. I promise you, there are people out there who have lots of sex and they are miserable. Just to be clear, they aren't miserable because they have sex - any more than you're miserable because you don't. Sex is actually orthogonal to happiness. Desire is actually what makes us unhappy, and contentment is what makes us hap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 11:43 AM |
| 2 | According to you, what does the "average guy"'s dating life look like, as well as the "average woman"'s?37 casual sex partners might be every man’s dream but it’s not any woman’s. Okay. But 37 casual partners is easily within every woman's capability. It's an option that every woman has. There is no evidence that this is within most men's capability. You might say, "just date fat chicks" - but I'm saying, here we have evidence that women can get this if they want it (and I hear you saying they don't want it). There's no evidence that men can. As an analogy, imagine someone from another country whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 11:37 AM |
| 3 | Online dating for women is just f*cking ridiculousYou said: I don’t think women care that much [about their leverage in the dating market]. A dating app is just another tool for me to meet more men. I don’t take it too serious. And then I said, "That's cool. I don't criticize women for what they do." <---- that's directed at you because you just said you (and women like you) don't care and don't take your lack of power/leverage seriously. To review, you said, "I don't take it seriously" and then I said, "that's cool, and I don't criticize women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/22 11:31 PM |
| 2 | Online dating for women is just f*cking ridiculousIf you have a question about something I said, please quote it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/22 08:43 PM |
| 3 | Online dating for women is just f*cking ridiculousyour criticism what criticism? I just said I don't criticize unless you come back later complaining about "where are all the good men" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/22 07:52 PM |
| 5 | Online dating for women is just f*cking ridiculousThat's cool. I don't criticize women for what they do. I only have something to say if you come back later complaining about "where are all the good men" - if you go your whole life partying like a rockstar and never complain, then that's great. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/22 05:07 PM |
| 33 | Online dating for women is just f*cking ridiculousbecome more selective What’s hilarious (or maybe tragic) is that they’re all selective in the same way. If your preferences align with everyone else, that reduces your leverage in the market. It makes the problem worse! A man with an over abundance of choices would be selective too, but mens preferences don’t align like that. There are men who like - genuinely like - every woman’s body type. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/22 12:22 PM |
| 1 | Do most men consider 30 year old women to be too old?I don’t believe you did. If you did, you could provide a link | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/22 12:06 PM |
| 0 | Do most men consider 30 year old women to be too old?No links. Typical | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 11:19 PM |
| 0 | Do most men consider 30 year old women to be too old?prove my point for me No | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 11:19 PM |
| 1 | Do most men consider 30 year old women to be too old?You don’t need to convince me. You should be concerned about your own biases. I would say the same thing to a racist. I would say that your views are based on things like selection and confirmation bias. And I’m sure they would say what you just said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Do most men consider 30 year old women to be too old?based off what I've seen It's more likely that you imagined it. I mean, you're claiming it's so common but can't point to even one example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 09:56 PM |
| -1 | Do most men consider 30 year old women to be too old?use the reddit link feature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 09:37 PM |
| 0 | Do most men consider 30 year old women to be too old?I don't trawl through comments for people "I make claims that I cannot support" Yeah, I know. I've seen many many many bluePillers do this. Unlike you though, I can provide examples if asked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 09:36 PM |
| -1 | Do most men consider 30 year old women to be too old?No true redpiller. He's not resorting to "no true redpiller" when NOBODY HAS PROVIDED AN EXAMPLE It's like if I say that blue pillers kick puppies. You say, "no we don't!" Then I go, "lOLol know trU bluPIller LOL111111oneone" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 08:42 PM |
| -1 | Do most men consider 30 year old women to be too old?I've seen many many many RedPillers say that. Please link to one so that I can see what they're talking about in context. If you've seen "many many many" then you should be able to quickly find one or two. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 08:40 PM |
| 2 | If a woman has to lower her standards for you to have a shot with her, the relationship you’ll have with her will be shaky at bestI see people arguing that women can somehow almost manually override their sexual preferences and CHOOSE to lower a standard. Where? Where do you see this? Please provide links so that I can see for myself what you’re talking about in context. And if you can’t provide links, then please consider the possibility that your view should change for that reason alone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 01:57 PM |
| 3 | Ladies, what do you actually mean when you request a guy to be a gentleman during a date?nasty text messages where he demanded his money back He's incredibly immature, and lashing out. If you had paid half, he would just find some other reason to whine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/22 05:06 PM |
| 1 | Ladies, what do you actually mean when you request a guy to be a gentleman during a date?My no’s mean no’s so listen to them (if I say ‘no let me pay half’ that is not an invitation to secretly pay Do you have any explanation for why that doesn’t work both ways? “No means no” seems to be a really important thing to you, and you actually used paying as your example …which I found to be unusual. typically the phrase is used around sexual topics. But since you brought up paying, I presume it’s a big deal and something you consider a transgression when a guy contradicts you. So my quest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/22 11:08 AM |
| 2 | Dude shows how women catfish by getting an overweight woman to show her Instagram.Now what do you say? huh? | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 05/11/22 08:44 PM |
| 3 | Dude shows how women catfish by getting an overweight woman to show her Instagram.I have seen you work out over the last few months, and you are in great shape and very attractive, and I was wondering if you care to go out sometime? To be fair, that is pretty weak. If you don't mind some advice: never open with a comment on her body or her attractiveness. I wouldn't even say "I've seen you here the last few months" because that makes it sound like you had to work up the courage to talk to her. Also, interrupting someone while they're working out is probably a bad plan. Your b… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 05/11/22 07:03 PM |
| 1 | 20 year old's dont want 30 + year old'sMen on here are always trying to rationalize age gap relationships Please link to a few examples so that I can see these rationalizations in context. I suspect that most men talk about dates and sex, not relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/22 03:44 AM |
| 1 | Modern men's standards are just as unrealistic as women'sThere are no examples that support OP's claim that "men demand actual sexual attraction and initiative from women and get bitter when women's preferences are revealed to be that which they've always been." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/22 08:56 PM |
| 1 | Modern men's standards are just as unrealistic as women'sanyone engaging in good faith would have seen the hundreds of posts and comments in this sub then link to one! This is a reasonable request. What is your problem?? "Anyone engaging in good faith" - right. If *I* don't provide examples to support your claims, then *I'm* acting in bad faith. lol. Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit. You know that's not how anything works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/22 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Modern men's standards are just as unrealistic as women'sThere's a lot of talking going on here, and not a lot of linking to examples of the thing you're complaining about. I suspect that if you actually link to stuff, people will point out that you're arguing against a straw man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/22 06:51 PM |
| 1 | Modern men's standards are just as unrealistic as women'slink me to a specific example. You blue pillers constantly (and I do mean constantly - I have about 30 examples) make claims that things are "common" and you see them "all the time" but why can't you provide examples?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/22 05:19 PM |
| 4 | Modern men's standards are just as unrealistic as women'sI'm saying men are being crybabies link me to someone specific. I suspect your example will be someone saying, "gosh, this sucks" and you're being very uncharitable to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/22 04:09 PM |
| 6 | Modern men's standards are just as unrealistic as women'smen demand actual sexual attraction and initiative from women and get bitter when women's preferences are revealed to be that which they've always been. Uh huh. So if I advise you, "don't ever work for Amazon! It's a terrible deal and you'll regret it! The pay is not worth the toll it will take on you! Here's a different company (I honestly can't think of one for this example) that treats its employees well" ...then you're going to come along and say, "yOu DEMAND certaIN treTMent and gET BITTER … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/22 03:41 PM |
| 3 | red pill is lowering man’s self-esteemthe spots on the top are limited Yes, that's true. mostly taken No. There are people entering and leaving the market all the time. and no matter how many guys becomes RP there are no new ones added There's some flexibility, but this is mostly true. I've referred to it as "zero sum" before and used this thought experiment to describe its limited nature (tl;dr you can create a situation where even "top 1%" men are effectively incels - though they'd probably resort to murder and alter the sex ratio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/22 11:49 PM |
| 13 | It's not that only men can be "shut-in" or "socially inept," it's more that being so hurts their dating success more than it hurts women's dating success.hurts men's dating success more than it hurts women's dating success. This depends on how you define "dating success" - it'd be pretty myopic to define them both the same way. Success for a man is mere interest from a woman. But success for a woman is commitment from a man. There are a scary lot of women out there who are abject failures but they haven't noticed yet. Being socially inept hurts men because men must initiate, and because women find social competence attractive - thus, these men ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/22 11:19 PM |
| 2 | Men are projecting when they try and scare women by the "cat lady" and "die alone" tropeI dont think I have met a single women scared of living alone Have you ever met someone who plays the lottery and is worried that it's a waste of their time? when I say, "don't play the lottery; you're not going to win; it's a waste of your time" that's good advice. That's advice that's based on statistics. That advice is not refuted by telling me that you've met lottery winners, or that lottery players don't believe it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 12:06 PM |
| 1 | the problem isn't sex the problem is that men are still expected to be traditional while women aren'tthey’re fighting to limit nontraditional women Please support this claim by linking to a post (preferably more than one) in the mra subreddit which you feel constitutes “fighting to limit women” I’d like to see what you’re talking about in context | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 11:51 AM |
| 8 | For all this talk of “the Wall”, I think in big cities (certainly London in my experience), men need to be alive to the fact that there are a lot of women out there who are totally fine with remaining single well into their thirties and potentially foreverMen are aware that they don't have leverage. I agree. We men get a lot more feedback because our objectives are short term. You can get rejected multiple times in one night. You can adjust and learn and improve very quickly. Even if you want an LTR as a man, you secure that by first succeeding in a very short term goal: obtaining attraction. You keep your girl so long as you keep the attraction. It’s much more difficult for women because success is entirely long term. The short term wins (attent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/22 05:22 PM |
| 0 | For all this talk of “the Wall”, I think in big cities (certainly London in my experience), men need to be alive to the fact that there are a lot of women out there who are totally fine with remaining single well into their thirties and potentially foreverDo you know what you just did, OP? You walked into a forum (this one) where people are giving advice based on a general trend... For example, here's some advice based on a general trend: "don't play the lottery; you're not going to win; you're going to lose your money and wish you hadn't played" You walked into that forum, and you pointed to the existence of exceptions (lottery winners) and you claimed that negates the general trend. You need to be "alive to the fact" (whatever that means) that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/22 02:01 PM |
| 0 | For all this talk of “the Wall”, I think in big cities (certainly London in my experience), men need to be alive to the fact that there are a lot of women out there who are totally fine with remaining single well into their thirties and potentially foreverDo you know what you just did, OP? You walked into a forum (this one) where people are giving advice based on a general trend... For example, here's some advice based on a general trend: "don't play the lottery; you're not going to win; you're going to lose your money and wish you hadn't played" You walked into that forum, and you pointed to the existence of exceptions (lottery winners) and you claimed that negates the general trend. You need to be "alive to the fact" (whatever that means) that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/22 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Has male cognitive dissonance towards women, completely taken over this sub?My attempt to change your view hinges on pointing out to you that you have no examples of the things you’re complaining about. I take this for instance Conflict #1 - Men here tell women to "choose better", yet get offended when women are shown to be more picky on dating apps. Show me a single poster who has both said, “choose better” then also gotten offended when a woman says “okay, I choose X” Please. Please show me an example. I want to see what you’re talking about, and I want to see it in c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Men on reddit are being systematically disinformed.The shortest men got rejected the least amount of times? That's not true. That's not what any study that has been linked or referenced in this thread says. The shortest men got the highest rejection rate. That's what OP's study says, and that's what the source I linked to found. You keep misstating the OP by saying this (and I even bolded the part you're misunderstanding - I'll do it again): "the men that had the lowest rejection rates were the ones that were 1 inch taller than the woman." No. N… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 04:01 PM |
| 2 | Men on reddit are being systematically disinformed.I'm shocked too. This decoy88 person is wrong about what's in your op. I tried to point it out to them, even highlighting in bold the part they got wrong, and they literally just repeat the wrong statement as if they didn't even read it. As your OP says, it's not a question of being 1 inch taller THAN THE WOMAN It's about being 1 inch taller THAN HER PREFERENCE ...and her preference is much taller than "1 inch taller than the woman" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 03:55 PM |
| 9 | Men on reddit are being systematically disinformed.This post never states what was the prefered height of the women The word "preferred" appears in the OP 5 times. if you want me to agree there is some psy op coordinated by women on reddit to trick guys below 6 ft No. That's not my position at all! What I believe is going on is that there's a difference between what we can consciously articulate, and what we are truly motivated by. I don't believe women are lying and I've said that many times here in PPD. I'd be happy to link you to examples. Wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 12:27 AM |
| 15 | Men on reddit are being systematically disinformed.No, I'm sorry. You misread the OP post. Here, I'll add emphasis to the part you got wrong. the men that had the lowest rejection rates were the ones that were 1 inch taller than the woman. My previous post to you is accurate. And the source I cited shows that women prefer the tallest men (in that study, where the tallest were 6'3"). Yes, I'm sure there is a plateau and women will start rejecting men who are, as OP said (and I hope you go back and see what you misread), are "1 inch taller than wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 11:18 PM |
| 31 | Men on reddit are being systematically disinformed.Most women would like a man that’s taller than they are. ...by how much? You're leaving a bit out there. Yes, they want a man taller, but they also want a man who is taller by some specific amount, which OP's citation didn't mention. For example, she wants a man who is taller than her ...when she's wearing six inch heals. lol. I promise you, a 5'4" women does not want a man who is 5'5" the man that is 5’5 would have the lowest rejection rate lol no. We have other sources of data on this btw. Her… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 10:57 PM |
| 2 | what's blackpill?a scene written and directed by two trans women where a black man tells a white computer programmer about reality. Your logic here (that the identities matter) is as dumb as if someone said straight people shouldn’t like computers because Alan Turing was gay. Turning’s identity is irrelevant to the question: are computers useful to me? If the answer is yes, then great! Make use of computers. Same with the idea conveyed in the movie. If that idea is useful to me then I’ll use it. The identity of … | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/10/22 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Women hypocritically use shaming tactics to try and dictate what preferences men are "allowed" to have, while advocating for women being able to have whatever preferences they wanta preference is, being totally satisfied with the other option but still having a choice if you can. Yeah. This relates to "settling" and also to being hung up on exes. It seems to me it's much, much more common for women to talk about both of those thing. "I'm 'meh' about my current partner - I settled for him" and also "I promise I do love my partner, but I still have feelings for, and think about, my ex." It'd be pretty easy to find examples of women doing both of those, but really hard to fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/22 11:13 AM |
| 2 | The tinder cycle for the average man and woman and why you shouldn't get frustrated or take it personally.my biggest issue with Red Pill: It is solely focused on what women want Well, if that's your goal then yeah, focus on that is valid. Keep in mind, this one goal doesn't have to monopolize all your time. You know, my profession is software development. In that profession, I'm focused on the needs of my client. That doesn't mean it consumes my whole life. If you said, "my issue with software development is that it's solely focused on the client" I would say, "ok, so what?" That doesn't mean I can'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/22 04:13 AM |
| 9 | The tinder cycle for the average man and woman and why you shouldn't get frustrated or take it personally.I get the points you're making. I'm not exactly disagreeing. Just some things to think about: we casually tell men: Hey don't get angry when women toy with you or your emotions. Well see, anger doesn't help. It's as useful in this case as if you were angry at the rain for falling on you. A healthy worldview, in my opinion, is one that seeks out internal loci of control. I can't control women. All I can do is make myself as attractive as I can be. I can control my weight. I can control my appeara… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/22 03:49 PM |
| 1 | bro the recent posts on the sub are so low qualityEverytime Many times Please link me to at least two examples so that I can see what happened in context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/22 12:31 PM |
| 1 | bro the recent posts on the sub are so low qualityEverytime I pointed these things they were either ignored or I was told that " It's NoT ReAL REdpIlL, reeeeee". Everytime eh? Please link me to at least two examples so that I can see what happened in context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/22 10:34 AM |
| 1 | bro the recent posts on the sub are so low qualityhow about just a rule that you are required to cite a (non RP or BP) source when making a claim? Well, there are two different categories of claims here. TRP should probably be held more to the rule you suggest: required to cite a non-TRP source. Because TRP is more often making claims like, for example, "I think ovulatory cycle changes women's behavior and/or how men respond to women" - if I made that claim, I should be required to cite a source ... like this one By contrast, blue pillers frequ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/22 10:33 AM |
| 1 | bro the recent posts on the sub are so low qualityEverytime I mentioned authors of some sick posts/videos/articles like 21 studios and tons of other "redpill coaches" I was told they weren't actually redpill. Everytime eh? Please link me to at least two examples so that I can see what happened in context. don't act like men here care about sources Wow that's interesting. You see red pill vs. blue pill as men vs. women? Anyway, here's my response: if you find TRPers aren't citing their sources, then I encourage you to challenge them on that. The… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/22 10:02 AM |
| 2 | bro the recent posts on the sub are so low qualityThanks. And I'm sure that some red pillers lack sources too. But, on the few times when I've posted here, I've always tried to have sources ready to go. Here's an example where I make a claim about BP and I include not one but two citations. Here's an example where I make a claim about society's treatment of men vs. women; I include half a dozen links. This should be the standard | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/22 07:21 PM |
| 1 | bro the recent posts on the sub are so low qualityif someone asked me for a citation like that, I would assume they were just going to move the goalposts. well you know what they say about assumptions. Basically, all you're doing here is making excuses. The truth is, you blue pillers have no clue what TRP actually says. If you did, then when you made a claim, your INITIAL CLAIM would include citations. The very fact that I have to ask you politely for the thing you're supposed to have at hand before you hit the post button, is just sad. And the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/22 07:11 PM |
| 11 | bro the recent posts on the sub are so low qualityYou can always ask for clarification or an example example 1: Please link to one or two examples of what you consider to be shaming - result: I'm told that's "bad faith" example 2: please link me to two of them, so that I can judge the claim in context - result: no reply example 3: you didn't link to the thing that you're upset about - result: no reply example 4: link to the thread or comment in TRP that set you off - result: no reply example 5: Please provide two examples of this """common""" s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/22 05:16 PM |
| 11 | bro the recent posts on the sub are so low qualityI just wish there was a rule that blue pillers were required to link to a specific example if they’re going to make a statement like, “the red pill says …” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/22 06:08 AM |
| 1 | Even women well into their 30s and 40s think they can afford to be insanely selective, often even more so than younger far more attractive girlsYep. Here's the episode I mentioned. The comment about having higher standards because you're fat is at 6:50 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 07:36 PM |
| 1 | What comes after "Work on yourself" has failed?the idea of faking normal behavior seems creepy to them. I liken it to the instinctive reaction that men have to the prospect of being "cucked" - sounds strange, but hear me out. Imagine a man who marries, raises a few kids, and then when he's at or near 60 years old and has just finished paying for his last kid to go to college, his wife reveals that none of them are actually his. It is now (most likely) too late for him to have offspring of his own. Without using the word "cuck" how would you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 02:01 PM |
| 2 | The lock and key analogy is irrational, because it entails a premise that isn't agreed upon to begin withWho are you quoting there? I was about to roll in and quote the science on parental investment. In all sexual species, selectivity is proportional to investment. Generally, a female makes a greater investment. She gestates the offspring, obviously, but she also invests time (once she's pregnant she can't get pregnant again for some time), and she takes a great risk to her life itself in the form of childbirth. In all species that follow this pattern, from squirrels to blue whales, the investment… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 01:29 PM |
| 3 | What comes after "Work on yourself" has failed?I’ve always discounted anyone who advertises himself as a life coach. Same here but allow me to explain my reasoning. I used to post more in askTRP (before it was banned) than I posted in TRP and I got a lot of feedback that I helped people out. The game plan is this: (1) when someone is new and clueless, you tell them the basics. BTW, "lift" is the first advice not necessarily because it's the most important, but because it takes a long time to sort out. So if you're out of shape, drop what you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 01:15 PM |
| 3 | What comes after "Work on yourself" has failed?Ok but are you going to take my advice re:coaching | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 11:18 AM |
| 32 | What comes after "Work on yourself" has failed?after "Work on yourself" has failed? Working on your self doesn't fail if you successfully improve the aspects being worked on. You say you got fit? That's a success. You say your fashion sense improved? That's a success. The next step, after working yourself is accomplished, is to develop social connections and cultivate a social circle. This is where I'm mystified by your post: I have no family, no friends Surely you don't believe that other men used to be willing to be your friend, but now th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 06:37 AM |
| -3 | Even women well into their 30s and 40s think they can afford to be insanely selective, often even more so than younger far more attractive girlsI’m a man in my mid 30s. And you’ll note that there aren’t entire subreddits dedicated to posing examples of men in their 30s making ridiculous demands and whining “where are all the good women” If you filter out 99% of women and then you accept the consequences of what you just did, and you live alone with quiet dignity, then nobody will post a CMV calling you out. Plus, your standards are most likely things that are in a woman’s control. Things like “be nice to me; don’t pick fights” as oppose… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 12:44 AM |
| 1 | Redpill values in society actually benefit womenIm curious what you would consider a Realist who doesn't agree with TRP, since they can't be a blue piller. A red piller. You can be a red piller and disagree with any number of specific people or conclusions. It's just like how you can be a Christian even though you don't like the church. And TRP is not even remotely a church, nor is it a cult (if it was, you wouldn't be allowed to disagree or leave). Here's the thing: what mainstream society believes about human sexuality is untrue. Mainstream… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 12:49 PM |
| 1 | Redpill values in society actually benefit womenEmpty sarcasm to conceal the fact that you can't defend your beliefs - typical of a blue piller. Just yesterday a blue piller told me that asking for an example to support their claims is "bad faith and a bit antisocial" That's how all of you think. It's why you're wrong about pretty much everything. None of you can defend yourselves - that's the main lesson I've learned from this forum. To be clear, I'm sure there are also dumb red pillers out there. Sorry about that. But they're like broken cl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 12:19 PM |
| 0 | Redpill values in society actually benefit womenThere is none. Yes, there is. I just described it and I’m right. Blue Pill doesn't really exist. Oh yea it does and you’re it. A person who is “plugged in” is someone immersed in the culture- that was all of us, you and me both. Then when you heard the truth about human sexuality, you had a choice: you could accept the truth (.the red pill) or reject it (the blue pill) You were plugged in, just like me. But you chose the. Blue pill, the lie. You are a behaviorist, a social constructivist, a blan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 12:33 AM |
| 2 | Why do RP guys try to shame women for desiring top 20% men?Asking for a citation for a claim you made is not “pretending you’re lying” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/22 01:14 PM |
| 5 | Why do RP guys try to shame women for desiring top 20% men?You made a claim. It's very reasonable for me to ask you for a specific video and a timestamp of wtf you're talking about. It is RIDICULOUS for you to ask me to watch even one multiple-hour youtube video and try to guess wtf you're talking about, let alone for you to tell me, "pretty much any episode" - implying that I might have to watch more than one. You shouldn't have made the claim - you should never even have posted this thread - without examples in the OP. And when I ask you for examples,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/22 08:36 AM |
| -2 | Redpill values in society actually benefit womenNo blue puller has ever said don't get in shape bullshit! The core concept of The Blue Pill (though most of them are not aware of this) is social constructivism - that is, the belief that everything, and I do mean everything, is a "social construct." Nothing is real. Everything is made up. There is no objective truth. As a result, if you make a statement like, "healthy-weight people are more attractive to more observers" they will disagree with you and say something (dumb) like, "that's because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/22 08:12 AM |
| 6 | Why do RP guys try to shame women for desiring top 20% men?RP guys try to shame women for desiring top 20% men? Please link to one or two examples of what you consider to be shaming. I'd like to see what you're talking about, and I'd like to see it in context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/22 07:47 AM |
| 4 | There is no evidence to support that 80% of women are sleeping with 20% of men. There never washook up culture was statistically WAY more prominent in the 90s and 00s before the rise of social media etc wut | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 05:07 PM |
| 4 | There is no evidence to support that 80% of women are sleeping with 20% of men. There never wasIsn’t this claim from a very old ok Cupid study? The general principle, that 80% of an effect is due to 20% of the inputs, is observed all over the place. Here's the wiki page about it Based solely on that, and with no other data, we have reason to suspect the principle would apply to dating too. When you factor in the blindingly-obvious differences in selectivity between men and women, we have even more reason. ...then the OKCupid data comes up and seems to confirm it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 04:12 PM |
| 5 | There is no evidence to support that 80% of women are sleeping with 20% of men. There never wasI've seen tons of red pillers claim that 80% of men are literally going sexless please link me to two of them, so that I can judge the claim in context. If there are tons of them saying it, it should be easy to find two. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 04:03 PM |
| 1 | If men are much stronger biologically, why is it a stretch to think women are more attractive?okay but you said "attractive" Things like height make men attractive to women. Imagine I create a thread where I say, "men are taller than women, so is it a stretch to think that men are more attractive?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 04:01 PM |
| 2 | If men are much stronger biologically, why is it a stretch to think women are more attractive?you’re implying that what people WANT and what they go for are the same I don't think so. The claim I'm objecting to is: "men only go for like the top 10-15% of women" which I interpret to mean, "only find attractive." That's obviously not true. Most men find most women to be attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 03:58 PM |
| 3 | If men are much stronger biologically, why is it a stretch to think women are more attractive?observation of life You misspelled "anecdote resulting from bias" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 03:55 PM |
| 1 | If men are much stronger biologically, why is it a stretch to think women are more attractive?[we] have trouble accepting that women being more attractive is literally just a product of being a woman Emphasis mine. You're switching between "physical beauty" and "attractiveness." So, I addressed that in point 2. You're thinking about attractiveness at one single point in time. Heterosexual relationships are more like a tortoise-and-the-hare comparison. You're looking at it and thinking, "this is not an equal match" but in the end, the go the same distance. I would even argue that men give… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 02:42 PM |
| 1 | If men are much stronger biologically, why is it a stretch to think women are more attractive?I guess I should have quoted you. My bad. But did you not claim that assortative mating is a mismatch for women but not for men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 02:27 PM |
| 2 | If men are much stronger biologically, why is it a stretch to think women are more attractive?It’s sad that you are not able to support your claims. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 02:24 PM |
| 1 | If men are much stronger biologically, why is it a stretch to think women are more attractive?Point 1: Yes, all relationships are exchanges of value, but they're not exchanging like for like. Think of your relationship with your employer. What you value in an employer is that paycheck they give you. And what they value in you is your productivity. OP's CMV is like someone whining, "I'm way better at my job than my boss would be!!" Yeah dude. No shit. That's why they hired you. Or a boss whining that they have more money than an employee. No shit. That's why they work for you. It's true t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 02:19 PM |
| 6 | If men are much stronger biologically, why is it a stretch to think women are more attractive?That's as relevant to the claim: "men only go for" As is the observation that car magazines have Ferraris, is relevant to the claim: "people only buy" If you had trouble following that (and I wouldn't be surprised if you did), people buy all kinds of cars. I believe the Toyota Camry is the best selling car in the US. It is not true that "people only buy Ferraris" If someone claims, "people only buy Ferraris" and I ask for evidence, and that person responds, "just open a car magazine and look at … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 01:57 PM |
| 4 | If men are much stronger biologically, why is it a stretch to think women are more attractive?I keep saying that all the time But do you have any evidence for it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 01:24 PM |
| 5 | If men are much stronger biologically, why is it a stretch to think women are more attractive?Most men will only go for like the top 10-15% of women [citation needed] | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 01:22 PM |
| 2 | Evolutionary PsychologyJust jumping into this thread to appreciate the sound of the crickets. Also, his claim that EP "can provide literally any result" is ...hilariously ...ironically true of the alternative to EP, wherein people claim that everything is a "cultural construct." Observation: women tend to prefer taller men. Conclusion: this is a cultural construct because patriarchy tells women they have to be small. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 07:32 PM |
| 1 | Evolutionary PsychologyIn the “hard” sciences, hypotheses should be testable and falsifiable. If I did up a dinosaur and I note that it has sharp teeth, and I make a statement like, "this adaptation probably evolved to eat meat" are you going to jump out from behind a bush and scream that my statement isn't testable or falsifiable? If I observe a nearly universal preference among women, and I make a statement like, "this preference probably evolved to .... " then I'm doing the same thing that the evolutionary biologis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 07:11 PM |
| 2 | CMV: the N count double standard is unfair, but so is being rejected for reasons beyond your control.dating is unfair I don’t think we’re using that term correctly. Is it “unfair” that an engineer works for a boss whose not an engineer? When they interviewed for the job and were told, “we’re looking for someone with 5 years experience as a lead engineer” would it make sense for them to whine, “but you don’t have any experience as a lead engineer!” No, because that’s not a matter of “fairness” It’s ok for short women to like tall men. It’s okay for fat women to like fit men … it might be unreali… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 03:53 PM |
| 7 | According to a 2020 study, the rate of 18- to 24 year old men who had no sex in the past year jumped from 18.9% in 2002 to 30.9% in 2018, while women's respective rate only went from 15.1% to 19.1%. This confirms the recent trend that women are having more sex with the same men.kissing, rock music, and close dancing can cause pregnancy? Once heard a joke that babtists are against premarital sex because it could lead to dancing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/22 10:58 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat Megathreadadmin specific reports What's that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 09:10 PM |
| 4 | female sexpatting postIf the mods of this subreddit don’t crack down on this poster, this sub is doomed | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/10/22 08:47 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSo just to be clear, I could pick any comment in this subreddit that I disagree with, and I could hit the "report" button, and then you're going to delete that comment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 05:04 PM |
| 1 | Most women find very few men attractive"I’m not attracted to women" "I’m a straight woman" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 11:53 AM |
| 1 | Here's an experiment: have the profile of the opposite gender in dating apps.if all the top men decided to commit to one woman, it would again solve a number of issues. Commitment is the price that men pay. It's similar to how money is the price that one pays for a Ferrari. But if Ferrari dealers started giving them away for free, then you might come along and say, "if people decided to pay money for these (otherwise free) Ferraris, then that would solve a lot of problems." Sure, I guess so. But why would anyone do that? If they're giving them away for free, only an idio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 02:24 AM |
| 1 | Here's an experiment: have the profile of the opposite gender in dating apps.some men will be assholes and they’ll get unmatched I imagine the really hard part of this experiment for a guy would communicating with men the same way women do. A guy being an "asshole" to you, while you're pretending to be a woman, is going to piss you off. That said, I do think that I could find a marriage-worth man in about 30 minutes. I'm serious. I could find a man who: could provide for a wife and children (has a job, and doesn't have any intrusive vices like gambling or excessive alcoh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 07:32 PM |
| 1 | Why do many women no longer desire sex after marriage?Yes, I agree with that as a general statement. Most people have no discipline and not even the desire to accept responsibility. I see it in men and women alike. It's a lack of character. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 02:36 PM |
| 0 | Why are you trying to shame "women" into lowering their standards?I primarily see this behavior from many members of the RP community You say that, but I notice you don't have any links. You blue pillers NEVER have citations for the things you believe. Meanwhile, I can just search my own post history and find comments like this one where I point out that I'm not asking women to lower their standards. Or comments like this one where I call hypergamy (that is, women's standards) "a feature, not a bug" and say it's fine. Women are free to have whatever standards … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 01:56 PM |
| 7 | Jordan Peterson explains through tears why he's sympathetic towards incels. This is also one of the reasons why Rule 1 exists in this sub.reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5awx-Z-Z3Ws "I'm fat because of white people" | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 04/10/22 11:48 AM |
| 1 | Why do many women no longer desire sex after marriage?Really good post. Sorry about your situation, but at least you seem to have a good understanding of it. They analogy to fine dining is great. One observation I’ll make is that it’s mostly agreed, within our culture, that men have a duty to continue those romantic gestures after marriage. Most people will be quick to condemn a man who would say, “nah just not into that stuff anymore” - he’s a “bad husband.” But no one would dare suggest women have any duties at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 10:35 AM |
| 160 | Jordan Peterson explains through tears why he's sympathetic towards incels. This is also one of the reasons why Rule 1 exists in this sub.What's fascinating to me about criticism of Peterson is how shallow it is. Just a few days ago I had this exchange where one person characterized Peterson as "wrapping verbal turds in velvet blankets" (meaning, nothing he says has any meaning). And another person claimed his words are, "nonsensical sentences ... and when you unwrap his stuff, there is nothing there." So, two people saying Peterson spews gibberish that has no meaning. I selected a random statement from a random video and broke it… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 03/10/22 03:31 PM |
| 2 | If a woman isn’t interested in you within the first few minutes, just never botherWomen are almost always looking for excuses to disqualify, loose interest, looking for the next man, etc. This is true, but the part you're missing is, you can get that dynamic turned around sometimes and get them into a mode where they qualify themselves to you. It's one of the most difficult aspects of "game" but if you keep it in mind and look for opportunities, you'll be very surprised at the results. If you want to practice, find a woman who has kids and then just noticeably, obviously pull… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/22 11:05 AM |
| 1 | Red pill guides men towards transactional relationships with women. Reciprocal attraction requires a different approach.lol you disagree based on your extensive experience dating 20 year old women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/22 02:47 PM |
| 1 | What gender cheats more?The 80/20 rule tells us that most people cheating right now are men. Women waaaay down the attractiveness scale are naive enough to believe that a top 10% chad is actually into them ... then they make the pikachu face when they get cheated on. This happens to women who are 7's and 8's too because the men at the top have abundance, but (due to survivorship bias) you aren't meeting the ones with morals. There are dudes with three and four side chicks at a time. Most of the people cheating right no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/22 12:20 PM |
| 1 | Red pill guides men towards transactional relationships with women. Reciprocal attraction requires a different approach.They are turned off by immaturity and arent obsessed with superficiality. Irrelevant. That's like saying you don't like sports cars because you don't like two-seaters with poor gas milage. You can get a sports car that isn't like that. If I pointed out (and this is true) that women tend to be more mature than men, I bet you would lap that right up! That would boost your ego and allow you to dunk on men. "Ha! Yeah! Men are so lame! Women more mature!!" There are plenty of mature 20-something wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/22 12:14 PM |
| 1 | If women are hypergamous, doesn't this also necessarily mean that women are hypocrites?When I say "standards" I mean the collection of traits, behaviors, and attributes which are subconsciously weighted and used to determine if a prospective mate is attractive or not. As a quick example, let's consider one trait (health) and one behavior (confidence). We can imagine a male running a program in some ancient part of his brain that assesses a woman's health, and then multiplies that by some weight (let's call it hW) and assesses her confidence and multiples that by some weight (cW) a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 09:11 PM |
| 1 | If women are hypergamous, doesn't this also necessarily mean that women are hypocrites?I don't think it's hypocrisy to have different standards for men and women when it comes to sex and dating, as men and women are different It's like saying I'm a hypocrite if I have different standards for a police officer vs. a security guard. They have different roles, so I should hold them to different standards. Women "date up" - and that's fine. That's the way we've been designed by natural selection. It is what it is. Honestly, it's a feature not a bug. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Red pill guides men towards transactional relationships with women. Reciprocal attraction requires a different approach.there most definitely are men that wouldnt pick the 20yearold. Nope. As I said, they're lying to try to score "good boy" points. Okay, I'll make an exception if they're over 40 themselves, or they have a weird fetish. Baring that, no 30-something man would choose the 20 year old version of a woman over the 30 year old version of the same woman. And you know full well that this is true. You know full well why the story is called "forever 21" and not "forever 31" - you know full well that 21 year … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 08:25 PM |
| 2 | Red pill guides men towards transactional relationships with women. Reciprocal attraction requires a different approach.Most blue-pill perspectives are straw men. For example, most blue pillers believe that TRP says that all men definitely improve with age. But no, that's not what we believe. We believe a man can improve if he works hard and has discipline. The next straw man from the blue piller will be, "there's no way a creepy 30-something man is more attractive than the hot 20 year old guy I dated" - right because you are imagining a top-tier 20 year old and imagining a below average 30-something who clumsily… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 12:33 PM |
| 5 | Red pill guides men towards transactional relationships with women. Reciprocal attraction requires a different approach.It's pretty tiring isn't it. Yesterday I had to explain basic high school science to one of them by pointing out that yes, there is variation in every population. Everything they believe is either flat out wrong (that's the core of the blue pill) or a straw man of the red pill | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 12:17 PM |
| 2 | Red pill guides men towards transactional relationships with women. Reciprocal attraction requires a different approach.[reciprocal attraction is] based mostly on fertility and genetic fitness Science says otherwise. Gender Differences in Effects of Physical Attractiveness on Romantic Attraction: A Comparison Across Five Research Paradigms - basically asking the question, how important is beauty (that is, physical attractiveness, or in this case signals of youth) to men and to women in determining who they find attractive (romantic attraction) Quote: "evolutionary and sociocultural theories of mate selection pref… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 12:14 PM |
| 2 | What are your thoughts on these statistics?Just playing devil's advocate: a cofounding variable that you'd need to control for in most of those studies is the effect of a very strict culture on behavior. To put that another way, maybe they cheat and divorce less often for the same reason they get laid less often: because their peer group discourages it. | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/09/22 03:53 PM |
| 1 | Men suck up to the “douchebag alphas” more than any woman. They have a skewed sense of what is attractive to womenThe anger you're feeling, that's causing you to lash out with ad-homs, is cognitive dissonance because I'm right and you're wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/22 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Men suck up to the “douchebag alphas” more than any woman. They have a skewed sense of what is attractive to womenThanks. The only time I think in terms of "accountability" around these issues is when women whine and complain about the men they choose to date. If you're making a choice (and women are) then yes they should take accountability for that choice. Women complaining about men are like peahens complaining that peacocks have those giant fan tails. Peacocks have those tails because the females mate with the males who look that way Women absolutely have the power to get together as a bloc and choose t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/22 12:57 PM |
| 1 | Men suck up to the “douchebag alphas” more than any woman. They have a skewed sense of what is attractive to womenNope, the two parallels I drew were right on point. An aspiring writer undoubtedly thinks about King's writing style more often and more deeply than a fan. And a cook undoubtedly thinks about about ingredients more often and more deeply than someone who merely eats the food. As a fan of King, or a connoisseur of food, your main interest is the feeling. Similarly, as a woman attracted to men, your main interest is the feeling. A deeper understanding is required to create that feeling. So, as usua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/22 12:51 PM |
| 1 | Men suck up to the “douchebag alphas” more than any woman. They have a skewed sense of what is attractive to womenMen here think more about Chad in one day than I have in my life That's like saying, "aspiring writers think about Steven King more than fans of Steven King think about Steven King." See, if I'm an aspiring writer, then my vocation is the art and practice of writing, and I may well look to Steven King and try to distill and systematize his techniques. I may have to do that a lot. That may take years of study. But if you're a fan of Steven King, you don't have to analyze it, you can just sit back… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/22 10:58 AM |
| 1 | Men suck up to the “douchebag alphas” more than any woman. They have a skewed sense of what is attractive to womenMost women do NOT find the latter kinds attractive. That's a claim, but you don't really have evidence for that claim. Here's your attempt to provide evidence: Those dudes. Their pages are LITERALLY 85-90+% men. That's like pointing out that 80-90% of people who follow/take advice from Béla Károlyi are aspiring gymnasts and not fans of the sport. In this analogy, a man interested in TRP is like an aspiring gymnast. He wants to learn what makes a successful gymnast. And sure, he wants to be famou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/22 10:45 AM |
| 1 | EVEN if you could FORCE monogamy and "redistribute" love and relationships, you can't force a woman to genuinely love you and you FEEL the differenceisn't only the TRP. That's not what the description says. And anyway, TRP is not incel, and incel content is expressly forbidden. "Expressively forbidden" Not expressively, expressly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 09:08 PM |
| 1 | EVEN if you could FORCE monogamy and "redistribute" love and relationships, you can't force a woman to genuinely love you and you FEEL the differenceyeah. Let's start over. (1) this is a forum for debate with TRP, not incels. Incel content is expressly forbidden. (2) OP posted a thread about "forced monogamy" - I'm honestly not sure which aspect of TRP he is referring to. Instead of replying to OP, I replied to you because you got more specific: (3) you referred to: "the delusional idiots who scream the enforcement of such policies" (4) when I ask you who you're talking about, you say you're talking about incels, not TRP. So, this whole thre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 07:31 PM |
| 6 | EVEN if you could FORCE monogamy and "redistribute" love and relationships, you can't force a woman to genuinely love you and you FEEL the differenceI think you might be in the wrong subreddit. This is a subreddit for debates with red-pillers. Incel content is expressly forbidden here. Take a look at the rules on the sidebar. If you're under the impression that TRP = incel then, according to the moderators of this forum, you're just wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 07:17 PM |
| 7 | EVEN if you could FORCE monogamy and "redistribute" love and relationships, you can't force a woman to genuinely love you and you FEEL the differenceThe delusional idiots who scream the enforcement of such policies Where are you seeing that? Please link to a couple of examples so that I can see what you’re talking about in context. Otherwise I’m going to assume you imagined it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 05:48 PM |
| 1 | The notion that women expect Gigachad because of social media is projection by men onto women.I rebutted the op with citations | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 05:29 AM |
| 1 | The notion that women expect Gigachad because of social media is projection by men onto women.Do you argue with everyone on semantics Nope. If you were paying attention you would note that i rebutted the op point by point with citations. But that triggered you for some reason so now I’m just toying with you. If you were the kind of person who engages rationally then I’d do the same | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/22 06:02 PM |
| 1 | The notion that women expect Gigachad because of social media is projection by men onto women.I can read I mean, you say that. But notice that I didn’t say you couldn’t read so, it’s kind of irrelevant for you to tell me can …and that suggests you can’t | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/22 04:10 PM |
| 2 | The notion that women expect Gigachad because of social media is projection by men onto women.OP isn’t wrong ...says the guy who admits he doesn't read. How would you possibly know if someone is right or wrong? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 11:02 PM |
| 3 | The notion that women expect Gigachad because of social media is projection by men onto women.people with social skills don’t need to click 6 links posted by men with social problems to “learn” how to have successful relationships with people lol. That's totally irrelevant to this conversation. Literally why are you even here? OP made a claim and OP's claim was NOT "here's how to have successful relationships" OP's claim was ... wrong and so I corrected it and provided citations. Nothing about the conversation between myself and OP is about "how to have successful relationships" Again, w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 08:35 PM |
| 3 | The notion that women expect Gigachad because of social media is projection by men onto women.if you live by a “pill” ideology then Nigga you ain’t goin by facts or reality at all Every single thing that I believe is supported by science and reason. And every comment I've ever posted on reddit is available for you to challenge. I often (seriously, very often) practically beg people to point to something I've said that they feel they can rebut. You guys never do it You're full of arrogant confidence and bluster but when asked to support it, you never do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 06:51 PM |
| 2 | The notion that women expect Gigachad because of social media is projection by men onto women.So let me just see if I've got this straight, you saw a comment that said: if you were amenable to learning, you wouldn't be blue pillers. that is, "blue pillers don't like to learn new things" And your response is: Lmao if blue pill = basic social skills maybe So, you're not denying that blue pillers don't like to learn new things, you're saying "people with basic social skills don't like to learn new things" Wow. You're not good at this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 06:47 PM |
| 1 | The notion that women expect Gigachad because of social media is projection by men onto women.that's a good one. I remember seeing that some years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 02:33 PM |
| 12 | The notion that women expect Gigachad because of social media is projection by men onto women.No one’s going to read your links. certainly not blue pillers. Of course, if you were amenable to learning, you wouldn't be blue pillers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 02:24 PM |
| 80 | The notion that women expect Gigachad because of social media is projection by men onto women.women expect a 6’6” Not 6'6" no. That's just your straw man. But women do prefer taller than average men. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224545.1992.9924723 https://i.imgur.com/1vCkndN.jpg https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/08/27/tall-men-have-their-pick-of-the-dating-pool/ This happens in other species too. See: widowbirds. ripped Chad Muscles are attractive, yes. I'm confused as to why you doubt this. The good news is, you can get your lazy ass into shape… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 01:16 PM |
| 2 | Is there a male equivalent to having been “used up”?The male equivalent to being “used up” is being useless - being a loser, having no money or social status, no competence (unable to get shit done or fix stuff) and having nothing of value to offer. I say that’s the equivalent because women have a similar instinctive reaction: a general disgust The reason for the reaction is also the same for men and women: your genes don’t want you to make bad reproductive investments. For a man, a “bad investment” is getting cucked. It’s giving resources to wha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 10:21 AM |
| 2 | Why shouldn’t women give up on dating if you guys act like a 25 year old is elderly?ugh. The concept of "the wall" does NOT mean: I'm old and ugly at 25 It just means that your attractiveness will decline as you age. It's similar to how your net worth will decline after you retire. When I point out that your net worth will decline after you retire, if you get upset and fire back with a ridiculous straw man like: sO ur saYInG iLL B poor oN tHE daY eye reTIRE???!!!???? If that's your response then you're just not listening, and not participating in the conversation. wHY sOULD eye… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 10:50 AM |
| 46 | What is the worst thing about being a man?You go on Reddit to find a supporting community for struggling men, and the only places that are open are either quarantined controlled opposition or straight inc*l shit. I have an example, I think I posted it to TRP years ago, from /r/askmen where a mod deleted a comment and banned a guy for criticizing feminism and then the mod let everyone know, “this is a feminist space” A supposedly men’s subreddit, but you’re required to toe the line on an ideology that cannot withstand any scrutiny. You’r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/22 09:32 PM |
| 3 | TRP tries to reduce the value of women by lowering their self confidence making them accessible to the RP demographicPlease cite two or three specific threads in TRP which you feel are “based on creating a scarcity mindset in women and deflating a woman’s value.” You claim “a lot” of this content exists so it should be easy to cite multiple examples. I’d like to see specifically what you’re talking about in context | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/22 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Many men like to talk about how women end up in abusive relationships because they "pick the wrong men". So let's hear it, how would YOU pick the right man if you were a woman.You can solve 90% of your dating problems by actually making conscious, rational choices rather than following your feelings (what trp calls “tingles”) like a leaf blowing in the wind. So much of pop culture, in the form of songs or comedy sketches, depicts women blindly following their feelings. And these little windows in your psyche that I’m referencing here are all written by women. Your feelings apparently don’t serve you well It’s the same for men too. It’s why we joke about “thinking with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/22 08:11 PM |
| 3 | HIGH BODY COUNT DOESN'T MATTEReven if a person has only had one previous partner, you may still be compared to that one person. What women do, that men (in my experience) do not do, is compare a parter to an amalgam of previous partners. My go-to example of this phenomenon is this clip from Steve Harvey. Note how often, when he asks her to explain some requirement, she says, "well I dated this one guy who..." She dates a guy, and then after she breaks up with him she adds things he did to her list. Further evidence of this c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 04:42 PM |
| 1 | Would most college-aged women be willing to date a 30+ year old man, or are they an anomaly?check yourself I did. I find no evidence for your claims. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 04:21 PM |
| 10 | What kind of man pays Rich Cooper $1,000 an hour for 'coaching'?building a connection to the content creator Surely you’re aware that you’re getting template responses right? They’re not actually reading your comments or personally replying. They don’t know you and they don’t care about you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Would most college-aged women be willing to date a 30+ year old man, or are they an anomaly?Please cite a few specific examples | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 02:17 PM |
| 0 | Would most college-aged women be willing to date a 30+ year old man, or are they an anomaly?A lot of men in the redpill community often boast about how, even though they're 30+, they still regularly fuck and date 18-22 year olds Please cite a few examples so that I can see these claims in context | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/22 10:50 PM |
| 3 | LOL Today's ridiculous post about porn being a a "great way for men to learn sex" is a perfect example of the whole "fish/fisherman" thing at work.....My attempt to change your view centers on the fact that you didn't link to the thing that you're upset about. I want you to consider that if you can't: cite a thing using a link (so that we can see it in context) quote from it (so that we can know precisely where you disagree) directly address and rebut it (so that we can judge your view in contrast to the thing you oppose - and possibly explain that you're arguing against a straw man) Then I want you to consider the possibility that your view i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 11:25 PM |
| 1 | How common is this? "I have an amazing career, make almost 6 figures, have lots of friends and family, fit and physically active, many hobbies and talented, but I can't get a single date"Next time, try making a comment about playing a song for them. That’s really good advice. Also, when you talk about something, you can choose to describe it with passion or not. You can make an effort to do that. Passion (for just about anything) is pretty close to ambition, which is like catnip for women. That’s probably why you’re getting away with talking about video games - a topic I would normally advise avoiding like the plague. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 10:19 AM |
| 6 | A few men are basically controlling all social interactions and sex between genders, rather than womenWomen are also shapeshifting to what top men want or look for I think I'd make the same point you're making here, but in a different way. Women are competing with other women only in terms of sexual availability. This is in contrast with past generations, when long-term pairings were the norm. Women in the past competed with each other in terms of femininity, reproductive access, and even things like adherence to certain values. Back then, men could only have one partner, so they judged that par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating issues are a result of a very very small percentage of men, and they attribute those behaviors to all menAsking someone out means starting the first phase of a relationship. yes, that's true ... in 1954. In 2022, all women get matches; all women get "asked out" What women (and even you, apparently) don't seem to understand is that while most men will fuck you, few will enter into a committed relationship with you. The most attractive man who will enter into a committed relationship is less attractive than the most attractive man who will fuck you. Imagine you lined up all the men who have ever made… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:14 PM |
| 2 | Women’s dating issues are a result of a very very small percentage of men, and they attribute those behaviors to all menYeah. It's my opinion that a woman's "league" is the men who will enter into committed relationships with them - but women believe their league is the men who will fuck them. So they spend a few years "having a hoe phase" and banging very attractive men, then they decide to "settle down" and they start making demands on those men. Those men just laugh at them and then the women say, "ugh, men are pigs" It never occurs to them that they were always out of their league. And the men actually on you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 12:51 PM |
| 1 | Women’s dating issues are a result of a very very small percentage of men, and they attribute those behaviors to all mendoesn't seem to be translating into tonnes of relationships. Are you moving the goalposts on me? You didn’t say “relationships” above. I can address that if you like, but please first acknowledge this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 10:04 AM |
| 2 | Women’s dating issues are a result of a very very small percentage of men, and they attribute those behaviors to all menwhy are they only asking Becky out? They are asking Becky out! Have you not seen the examples where pics of ugly women get tones of matches of dating sites? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:22 AM |
| 4 | Women’s dating issues are a result of a very very small percentage of men, and they attribute those behaviors to all menMaybe it's not a concern for you. It is a concern for him, he just doesn’t realize it. All our instincts are naturally evolved and serve the function of survival and reproduction. It’s actually kind of amusingly ironic that some who is heterosexual (as I assume he is) would say that reproduction isn’t a concern. The instinct to reproduce is why you’re heterosexual! You may not consciously want children but the feelings you have are the manifestation of the instincts of reproduction. Anyway I fig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 09:20 AM |
| 5 | So what exactly is a Chad?the critera that Red Pill / Incel consideres to be As a longtime TRP follower let me assure of one thing right off the bat. No male group, be it TRP or incel, gets a vote on this issue A chad is defined as: whatever a plurality of women find attractive. That’s it. That’s what it is. To the extent that TRP is interested in discussing it, all we can possibly do is attempt to document women's preferences by observing thier behavior. But we don’t get to make the rules. Women make the rules (through … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 04:07 PM |
| 4 | What do men want? As candidly and honestly as possible and from a male’s perspective.a sense of purpose and meaning from sacrifice This right here. I might narrow it down a bit and phrase it as: men want to be winners If there was ever a "red pill" (in the sense of, a desire to know the truth about human sexuality) for women it would be that: men want to be winners. Ladies, if you can make a man feel useful he will keep coming back for that fix. Of course, I'm also aware that women want men who are already winners so, if you find yourself failing often in relationships, consider… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 04:39 PM |
| 3 | 80/20 is common sense and it appears the mainstream is getting it...Do you believe male and female sexuality and libido is, on average, identical? How were they your "peers" if they are really attractive? Because a randomly chosen 20 year old girl is almost certainly "really attractive" while a randomly chosen 20 year old male is not. Nonetheless, if they pair off, she gets to enjoy the fruits of his labor for her entire life - for long after her youth and beauty is gone. Thus, it's a fair trade. Thus, they are "peers" If you lined every heterosexual up and rank… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Dating spaces gaslight the absolutely living shit out of menget as much information as possible What possible additional information do you need? You know what the story is about within the first two sentences. If it bothers you, then stand up for yourself - just do it in a way that makes it clear you are in complete control of your emotions. If you're whiny about it, you'll lose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 08:26 PM |
| 1 | The truth about female beauty. These guys are absolutely correct. Discuss.The last time I was complimented was back in June when I was in Chicago for a work thing. Not to take away from the points you're making, but here are some thoughts on giving compliments to women: (1) a man who compliments women at a work thing is playing with fire. Your example is a woman, but this is my advice to men: don't. (2) outside of work, with friends or even strangers, smart men wont compliment you on your looks because (we assume) you hear that all the time. Instead, smart men will co… | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/08/22 06:29 PM |
| 5 | The truth about female beauty. These guys are absolutely correct. Discuss.It is very true that around women, it's spread that if you don't have a tight gap, you are basically unseen by men. I find it hard to believe that women think anything makes them "unseen by men" I might see how it could be a relative issue like what women encounter with aging, where they get older and the amount of attention they receive declines a little ...though they still get attention. And so, relative to when they were younger they feel "unseen" (even though they still are) But the thigh g… | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/08/22 07:11 PM |
| 4 | The truth about female beauty. These guys are absolutely correct. Discuss.Here's the underlying article: https://www.jsanilac.com/dispelling-beauty-lies/ | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/08/22 04:43 PM |
| 5 | Women, what do you think the average man's dating life looks like?the "model minority" and are doing well in school, careers etc. Almost all minorities are doing well in school, careers, etc. Take a look at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income The median household income for whites is $65,902 The median household income for Indians is $126,705 For Pakistanis it's $87,509 For Iranians it's $87,288 For Asians it's $87,243 For Nigerians it's $68,658 I tried to pick some groups that I think most America… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 03:20 PM |
| 5 | So sex is seeming more and more transactional these days. Who’s to blame?So you expect me to believe that, just to pick a handy example, Amelia Earhart had no bank account until she married at age 34? You're telling me that after she became famous for crossing the atlantic, and was given a sponsorship by Lucky Strike cigarettes and did ads for them ...you're telling me she kept the money in a shoebox because she had no bank account? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 12:51 AM |
| 2 | A common response to criticizing the current state of dating is “they want us to just fuck ugly dudes” when literally no one is suggesting that. Suggesting average women date in their league or slightly above is not the same as telling them to fuck fat guys.telling them to shop in their price range I think they calibrate their expectations based on the men who will sleep with them. They seem to think that one of those men is “in their price range” for commitment. If you gender-flip this (because sometimes that’s helping to understand unrealistic expectations) imagine a male who gives money to OF girls and starts to believe that’s his “league” for anything more than simping. Pretty funny right? Imagine him whining “women ain’t shit” because those wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Trans-man shares his insights into how differently men and women are treated in society:You claimed that he was: Making the fact that you don’t love eachother the way women do a “women problem” But he didn't. He didn't say, "here's a problem with women ...." You created a straw man all on your own. | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/08/22 08:24 PM |
| 1 | I see a lot of women on Youtube supporting the men's side of the dating debate. Why is it they all support shit like Kevin Samuels and his kind?What would you say is not harmful? | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/22 11:46 AM |
| 2 | Trans-man shares his insights into how differently men and women are treated in society:If he had actually done this: Making the fact that you don’t love eachother the way women do a “women problem” doesn’t make sense You would have quoted him. Your entire comment is a straw man. | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/22 11:16 AM |
| 7 | Something i noticed about tinder statisticsyeah you already said it was bad. I'm just wondering if you can point to anything that's good. Doesn't even have to be dating-related. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 08:36 PM |
| 10 | Something i noticed about tinder statisticstinder is fucking awful for women Out of curiosity, can you name anything that isn't "fucking awful for women" (according to women)? Or alternately, can you name something that you believe is fucking great for men? I'm just curious because this seems to be a pattern. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 08:33 PM |
| 1 | why do i see average guys with average girls outside and online all the timeForget couples for a minute and just consider the following question: if you sorted men by women's combined assessment of their attractiveness, then you took a random sample of men walking down the street, what percentage of men would you expect to see who are in the top 20% of attractiveness? If your answer is, "20%" then okay, that's a hypothesis you could test. Hypothesis: "20% of men are 'top 20%' so therefore if I sit on a street corner and watch people walk by, 20% of the men I see will be… | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/22 01:57 PM |
| 2 | are women allowed to have fun in their youth according to the red pillHave you seen that Dave Chappelle bit where he says, "if a man could fuck a woman in a cardboard box, he wouldn't own a house." Yeah. I still keep running into immaturity from men ... the only bar they pass is the fwbs bar because that bar is really low. Why exactly would a man grow up or mature if he gets sex without it? Being single and having my own place, and having a couple of women friends who are down to fuck every now and then is THE FUCKING BEST. I was married for seven years, and I've … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 05:57 PM |
| 1 | How does TRP/manosphere not negatively affect men’s mental health for 80-90% of it’s audience who don’t become part of the top 10-20%?You said: you need to become part of the top 10-20% of men in order to be happy and fulfilled in life. And here's the support for that: Andrew Tate and FreshandFit saying how the life of an average man is “fucking lonely” and “fucking miserable.” So, if I say that the average man struggles financially - he can't buy the house he wants, or the car he wants - then by your logic I'm saying, "you must become a top 10% income earner to be happy and fulfilled" This is the fallacy of the excluded middl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 05:23 PM |
| 1 | are women allowed to have fun in their youth according to the red pillYou should probably take the total value of each person, rather than their instantaneous value. If her value declines faster than his (because - and I have the science to support this - men's attractiveness includes values like social and socioeconomic status, as well as confidence) and his value, as an earner, persists well into his 60s, then the sum of those many decades with him is worth more than the single decade, or maybe two decades, where she's physically attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 03:15 PM |
| 6 | are women allowed to have fun in their youth according to the red pillI had sex with Dan Good going Dan! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 02:52 PM |
| 1 | are women allowed to have fun in their youth according to the red pillThere was no men chasing me down for marriage when I was in my early 20s, but plenty men chasing me down for sex. That's normal. Men always want sex. You get to set the price of sex. If, even in your 20s, you had said, "the price of sex is a monogamous commitment - not necessarily marriage, but you have to give up your dating apps and talking to other women and build trust with me before we have sex" ... then you would have had plenty of takers. Not all men would have gone for that. I'm not clai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 02:43 PM |
| 1 | How does TRP/manosphere not negatively affect men’s mental health for 80-90% of it’s audience who don’t become part of the top 10-20%?TRP seems to overall promote the idea that you need to become part of the top 10-20% of men in order to be happy and fulfilled in life. My attempt to change your view is to ask you to link to something in TRP that supports your claim that TRP believes you need to be in the top x% in order to “be happy and fulfilled”- I’d like to see what you’re talking about in context. And if you can’t cite anything then consider changing your view | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 10:00 PM |
| 2 | I don’t see anything wrong with pumping and dumping a womanmen who think like this are very weird no, it's a very normal and perfectly valid. how would you know if she kept every man to the same standard as you? irrelevant. You might ask the same question about cheating. "how would you even know if he cheats????" she doesn't have to keep the same standards for you lmao. I didn't say she """"had to"""" lmao. You could say the same thing about commitment. "he doesn't have to commit to you lmaso" this male entitlement is strong. entitlement to what? I bet … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/22 06:07 PM |
| 5 | I don’t see anything wrong with pumping and dumping a womanIf you go on a date with a woman and make it all about You do realize that anything you put after the word "about" is going to result in failure. This has nothing to do with dating. Here try this one on: "if you go in for a job interview and make it all about how much money you want, you're not going to get the job" See how that works? When you set a ridiculous standard (specifically, "making it all about") you always fail. What point did you think you were making here? why do you think being us… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/22 04:10 PM |
| 6 | Dating spaces gaslight the absolutely living shit out of menI would just leave her if it really felt that bad. If you can't resolve it then yeah. I would say though, that as a man, you should prepare yourself for the day when you have to call out a drunk friend of your girl. Prepare yourself so that you stay calm - if you shout you'll look weak. If you're at a party and a drunk girl starts telling a story about your girl getting double-teamed or whatever. You need to very calmly, in a very low but deep voice, ask if she forgot you're sitting right there.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/22 12:46 PM |
| 29 | I don’t see anything wrong with pumping and dumping a womanMen: “women should have sex with me on the first date to show she finds me attractive.” I’m very sorry that men here aren’t sufficiently articulate to get the point across. But it’s also possible you’re just not listening so please allow me to explain it very clearly: the only problem is when you change the rules for a particular guy. If you go your entire life with a “three date rule” that’s fine. I’m sure some dude will still whine about it but his gripes aren’t reasonable- not even TRP would … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/22 09:03 AM |
| 2 | If standards are 'on the floor' for men, how high is the floor?what do you think men want besides sex? One very important thing is purpose. I'm not sure if many men can even articulate this, but if we don't sense that we're useful, we start wandering. Women needing us for literally anything, is very compelling. Doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't be independent. Just means you should consider intentionally carving out a place in your life where a man would be objectively beneficial. A man who slots into that space will be on top of the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 06:45 PM |
| 4 | If standards are 'on the floor' for men, how high is the floor?That’s depressing, but I can’t really disagree. The generally promiscuous nature of present society undoubtedly compounds the issue (and I’m not complaining- it benefits me, just not women, evidently). Any girl who goes through a “phase” where she’s not seeking commitment and is satisfied with just hookups, has a lot of success. If you’re 20 and willing to fuck NSA and not catch feelings, you can get very, very attractive men who love that arrangement. Later, when you decide you do want commitme… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 01:52 PM |
| 20 | If standards are 'on the floor' for men, how high is the floor?If a man is super into a specific woman, it's not gonna matter that he has a line of other women k. But notice how the comment you're replying to, and indeed /u/Xenomarph's entire thread is about women who say, "the bar is very low" So I explained why the bar would be low: because you have no leverage over these men. Then you reply with this hypothetical: IF he's "super into you" then the bar wont be low. Okay, that's fine, but that gets us to the "what do you bring to the table" question. And w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 11:32 AM |
| 52 | If standards are 'on the floor' for men, how high is the floor?when women say the bar is on the floor they're talking about men they're already attracted to Exactly. And, (one of the many, many things that) women don't seem to understand is that because their preferences align so well with other women (meaning, there's substantial agreement on that top 10%) they have absolutely no leverage when it comes to negotiating with the men they're attracted to. What demands are you possibly going to make?? Are you going to demand a fancy date? Are you going to deman… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 03:13 AM |
| 1 | r/AllPillDebate LoungeJesus, look at how many comments are deleted in this thread: https://www.reveddit.com/v/PurplePillDebate/comments/wj1eu2/dating_spaces_gaslight_the_absolutely_living_shit/ | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/08/22 11:48 PM |
| 31 | Dating spaces gaslight the absolutely living shit out of menWhat penance is he paying? He’s not receiving her full capacity of affection. He is accepting less than what is available. Imagine some company hires you and pays you $20k per year. You might have any number of reasons for accepting that offer. But now imagine you find out they once paid someone else $100k for the same exact job. And it’s not that this company can no longer afford it. They have that money in the bank, just not for you If you stay with that company, it’s self flagellation. It’s p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/22 11:09 PM |
| 2 | Why is there a discrepancy in what men believe how women respond to men crying in relationships compared to what women believe how women respond?Women don't find their partner less attractive for crying, damaged or emotionally absent people do. I just want to make sure I understand you here. Are you claiming that both men and women afford equal weight to all behaviors in their partner? To put that another way, if I have 100 randomly selected men, and 100 randomly selected women, and all 200 of them have partners, and all 200 of them observe their partner exhibiting some behavior (pick any behavior) ...you're claiming that there is an equ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 11:55 PM |
| 2 | Why is there a discrepancy in what men believe how women respond to men crying in relationships compared to what women believe how women respond?Saying one negative trait about women, that both genders can have. What is the third word of the top-level post you're responding to? I'll give you a hint, the word is "people" - not "women" but "people" as in, "men and women." Here's some more from that post: "None of this is a condemnation of women. ... I'm not saying that women are "bad" because they have feelings. I'm saying that their feelings are normal. This is normal female sexuality. It's fine." It's so weird to me how blue-pillers will… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 04:21 PM |
| 2 | Why is there a discrepancy in what men believe how women respond to men crying in relationships compared to what women believe how women respond?you give too much cradit to one gender If you feel that way, I think you need to quote something I actually said. Because I don't know wtf you're talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/22 12:24 AM |
| 3 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'You know, I never thought about the possibility that people not in software development didn't understand the significance of that part of the movie. For me, the whole company was dysfunctional so I just took it as another example of that problem. Do other people watch the movie and think, "yeah that guy was an idiot, he should go" That said, part of the problem (and part of why it's funny) is the guy's inability to "elevator pitch" his own job. Doesn't he know about car analogies?? Everything i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 02:23 PM |
| 2 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'Because it removes mystery? Yeah, I can agree with that for a lot of cases. I think it's possible though to "connect" on a level that preserves or even creates sexual tension. If you've ever picked a girl in a loud club and danced with her - that'd be the kind of connection that's good. But yeah, the kind of guy (there's always one) in a group who starts talking politics thinking the girls will like him because he says he's pro-choice - that guy is fail. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 01:03 PM |
| 1 | Why is there a discrepancy in what men believe how women respond to men crying in relationships compared to what women believe how women respond?thanks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 12:59 PM |
| 5 | Why is there a discrepancy in what men believe how women respond to men crying in relationships compared to what women believe how women respond?generalising so aggressively. oooohhhh *scary music* """aggressive generalization""" Here's the thing though: there is nothing even a tiny little bit wrong with generalization. Someone once told you it was wrong and you believed it without question. That's too bad. A statement of the form, "men tend to be stronger than women" is a generalization ...and it's true ...and it means something ...and it's a vital component of your worldview, if your goal is to actually understand the world. A statemen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 12:43 PM |
| 2 | Sparks are difficult to come by when you've burnt yourself out - u/typo-magashivthere's an accountability phase??? | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 04/08/22 11:33 PM |
| 147 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'women on this sub tell me they love a guy that they could have connection with, a guy that they can talk to You really need to understand that whenever a person tells you what they want, they are always leaving out the thing they take for granted. Trust me, I write software for a living and this happens all the time. Client: "I need a system that does X" Me: "Okay here you go, this does X" Client: "Wait, this doesn't do Y!! The existing system does Y!!" When a woman says she wants a man she can … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 09:18 PM |
| 40 | Why is there a discrepancy in what men believe how women respond to men crying in relationships compared to what women believe how women respond?In general, people are really bad at predicting how they will respond to a thing, or how (or why) they responded in the past. Note how everyone - every last person - will swear that advertisements don't work on them. "I'm not a robot who sees and ad and then goes and buys the thing" they will swear. But we know ads work. Do a survey and ask people what kind of food they want. Most people will say they're going to eat healthy food, and so that's what they want. Then marvel that there are McDonald… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 01:10 PM |
| 4 | Study: female sexlessness is also rising:Of course! A lot of people are worried about being perceived as "weird" so, while they might like something in the bedroom, they're afraid to talk about it. So, you just find some oblique way to approach it, and then they know it's not weird. Get your hands on a girl's throat without actually choking her, and she'll gasp or moan, and later tell you how hot that was ...if she's into it. Or she wont if she's not. And if she's into it, now you've got something new you can do to get her of. If she's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 06:29 PM |
| 5 | Study: female sexlessness is also rising:If there’s a gen-z difference, it’s in the willingness to articulate “taboo” proclivities. It’s not (much of) a difference in the presence of those proclivities. Next time you’ve got a girl in the prone-bone position, put an arm under her, between her tits, and wrap your fingers around her throat. OBVIOUSLY DONT JUST RANDOMLY START CHOKING HER. Just hold her like that. You’ll get feedback through body language if she likes it, and afterwards, if she wants to be choked, she’ll feel comfortable le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 04:26 PM |
| 3 | In terms of Women's Interests, Can Men (and Monogamy) Be Saved?the completely unsubstantiated biological gender differences that I see spouted around here What differences in behavior or preference do you believe actually exist, on average, between men and women, due to biology? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 11:08 AM |
| 7 | Less attractive women don’t date more attractive menMy one wish for this subreddit is that there'd be a rule such that if you made a statement like: According to people on the RP at least from What I understood, less attractive women tend to be in relationships with more attractive men You would be required to cite at least two upvoted comments, or a post, expressing the position you claim TRP says. I'm not even saying you're wrong in this case I just would like to see exactly what you're talking about in-context. A lot of times, people just misi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 08:52 PM |
| 2 | Men do not value youth more than women due to biology, they just used to have the privilege of choosing partners based on looksWomen, factually, have significantly lower libido than men on average due to differences in androgen levels (I have several studies prepared to cite I agree with you but would like to take a look at the studies. Also, I remember seeing a study that looked at how much overlap there was between preferences. In other words, if you find someone attractive, how likely is it that other people find them attractive. Don't suppose you've heard of this or happen to have a link? I think when I search for i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:33 PM |
| 1 | Q4M What’s a high n count? How does that affect a woman’s ability to lock you down?your entire argument here isn’t rooted in logic Do you even remember what my argument is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 12:09 PM |
| 0 | Q4M What’s a high n count? How does that affect a woman’s ability to lock you down?The “reaction” is valid because of the preexisting culture Nah, that's a lame excuse to cover your assumptions - the baggage you, not me, bring to the discussion. You don't get to say, "I can assume whatever I want because of this vague allusion to 'preexisting culture'" - that's ridiculous. that’s your motivation here. https://religions.wiki/index.php/Appeal_to_motive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Q4M What’s a high n count? How does that affect a woman’s ability to lock you down?I disagree. The comment she's responding to says, "X doesn't help with Y" and she jumped right to the claim, "HES SHAMING X!!!" Maybe the defensiveness would be more obvious if we picked different values for X and Y. The hypothetical I tossed out was where X=alcohol and Y=social situations. If someone says, "X doesn't help with Y" and you equate that with "shaming" alcoholics .... that is pretty defensive. But you can pick any different values you like. X could be gun ownership and Y could be sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Q4M What’s a high n count? How does that affect a woman’s ability to lock you down?I can differentiate any two things, because everything is different from everything else. What's relevant here is, both cases (what I actually said, and the hypothetical about alcohol) involve an opinion that some thing doesn't help with some other thing. And then, in both cases (how you responded, and the hypothetical response) the response is a claim that I'm "attacking" the thing. If you characterize the statement, "I don't think X helps with Y" as """"shaming"""" X then that definitely sound… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 07:43 PM |
| 4 | The “rules” for men and women don’t work for anyonePeople are told which subjects they will be good at based on gender. *facepalm* A implies B B therefore A That's a logical fallacy, guys. If someone observes (objectively observes) "most people in ____ profession are male" and you hear "well, I'm male so I guess that means I have to be ____" that's a you problem. That's not "society telling people which subjects they'll be good at" - that's just you succumbing to a logical fallacy. You are entirely free to have whatever interests and preferences… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 03:00 PM |
| 2 | Q4M What’s a high n count? How does that affect a woman’s ability to lock you down?You don’t have to call a woman a slut to contribute to slut shaming narratives and cultures Again: "I don't think drinking alcohol really helps in social situations" You: "STOP CALLING ME AN ALCOHOLIC!!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 12:47 PM |
| 2 | Q4M What’s a high n count? How does that affect a woman’s ability to lock you down?You know what's really interesting and really telling about this conversation? The question in the OP was about "n-count" which means how many different men she's fucked. And you think that's synonymous with "experience." Which of these two women actually has more experience? Woman A who goes clubbing on Friday night, picks up a random guy, and drunkenly fucks him in the bathroom, or a car, or someone's apartment - then has a Tinder hookup with a different guy on Saturday - and does that for a y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 11:46 AM |
| 2 | Q4M What’s a high n count? How does that affect a woman’s ability to lock you down?Some men just want an excuse to slut shame women. There's no need to be so defensive. I'm just as entitled to my opinion as you are. If you feel that my claim, that promiscuity does not improve a woman's performance in bed, constitutes "slut shaming" (and it's not slut shaming - I didn't say promiscuity was bad, just that it doesn't help) ... then maybe I should make up a derogatory label for your position that promiscuity helps. But maybe the term "blue pill" already conveys that meaning. Or ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 11:36 AM |
| 1 | TRP behavior and modern women behavior are mirror images of each otherObviously I know more feminists, and know more about the ideology, than you do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 11:27 AM |
| 3 | Q4M What’s a high n count? How does that affect a woman’s ability to lock you down?Why do you think any of that is "fixed" by taking more dicks? "I used to be a starfish in bed, but then after the 12th random dick that fucked me, I learned to move around" - said no woman ever. And a "bad bj" from a girl who wants to please you is an opportunity. Just tell her what feels good. She'll do it. But if she's not that into you, then it wont matter if she's sucked 1000 dicks before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 12:58 AM |
| 6 | Q4M What’s a high n count? How does that affect a woman’s ability to lock you down?I want experience I'm curious what you imagine a woman learns from getting fucked by 10 different guys, that she's going to bring into the bedroom with you ... specifically what she learns that is better than you just taking charge in the bedroom and directing her to do what you like. If you're imagining that a woman with "experience" is better in bed than a woman who just simply likes you and is eager to please you, then I have to say, that sounds naive to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 07:41 PM |
| 0 | TRP behavior and modern women behavior are mirror images of each otherThe one which is wrong is going to blow back into the face of it's followers Well, women's happiness keeps decreasing. So there's that. False ideologies don't necessarily collapse though (if that's what you mean by "blow back"). There are religions that are thousands of years old and still trucking along just fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 04:21 PM |
| -1 | TRP behavior and modern women behavior are mirror images of each otherI see the point you're making, and I can agree that both of these represent a kind of sexual strategy. Where I disagree is, feminism (and this is the theory that "modern women" are operating on) lacks any kind of coherent narrative that holds up under scrutiny. By contrast, TRP does hold up. To put that another way, what TRP claims about men and women is true and what feminism claims is false. And that's a pretty important difference between them. I realize feminists and blue-pillers will scoff … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 03:30 PM |
| 9 | Redditors always say treat women like people and not objects to be won but the way dating has gone encourages this sort of thinkingOh, you can criticize trad women. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2mMhzZxt-w | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 03:00 PM |
| 2 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.No one would say my husband or I are abusive because he cleans the cars and I manage the finances lmao. yes, thank you. That's my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 06:05 PM |
| 2 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.no, I obviously know more than you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 05:47 PM |
| 6 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.Nobody would disagree with that Again, women unilaterally decide how much work is to be done. They claim the privilege of deciding that. Then they (oh so graciously) split that in half and assign 50% of it to their boyfriend ...and complain when he doesn't want to do it. Every time a woman complains that men aren't doing enough housework, this is what's really going on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 04:32 PM |
| 7 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.Why on earth would anybody think a guy stating a relationship should be 50/50 would be abusive? They would call it abusive if he choose the work that needed to be done, and she disagreed. For example, every saturday I wake up early, back both cars out of the garage, vacuum them out, clean the windows, and wash them. And if they need a further detail, I do that too. I like my cars to be clean. I have never met a woman who gave a shit about that. And that's okay. It is totally okay for someone els… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 04:17 PM |
| 10 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.Misandry isnt real The claim that it's not possible to hate a group of people - that therefore, you can do whatever you want to them - IS hatred of that group. It is dehumanizing them to pretend that it's not possible to hate them. Complaining about a woman wishing for close to 50/50 If I turned this around on you, and presented a situation where the man wanted """"50/50"""" you would call it abusive. Let me know if you doubt that I can present that scenario. I'm happy to. Meanwhile the literal … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 02:30 PM |
| 9 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesHere's what I asked for a citation of, with emphasis this time: They commonly say things like "enforced monogamy" and "when women are scarce men become violent" then say "no no no i didn't mean that women should be distributed to men. The implication I read into is is that men bring up "enforced monogamy" precisely because they actually do want women to be "distributed to men" - then backpedal when called out. That's what I want to see in context. Because I don't believe anything other than the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 07:33 PM |
| 6 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesyou want to ignore *facepalm* The GP made a claim. I asked for a citation. You made an irrelevant response, so I corrected you and reminded you that what's relevant is the citation (that I'm never going to get) to GP's claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 07:19 PM |
| 1 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesi have also clicked on your post history and found some more genuinely hateful shit that actively ignores broad scientific consensus. I don't believe you. If you had found such things, you would have eagerly linked them. Every. Single. Thing. That I believe. Has sound scientific support. And I stand ready to defend every word in every comment I've ever posted ...or, if it turns out that I believed something 10 years ago and have since changed my mind, I'm happy to retract it. The ball is in your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 07:12 PM |
| 7 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesi'll find you two examples of AFBB from the front page Irrelevant. Here's the quote, with emphasis added, that I've asked to be substantiated: They commonly say things like "enforced monogamy" and "when women are scarce men become violent" then say "no no no i didn't mean that women should be distributed to men. I did not ask for a quote about AFBB. I asked for a quote where a man advocates for "enforced monogamy" and then says "no no no I didn't mean that women should be distributed" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 07:09 PM |
| 10 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesIts becoming more and more common to see such comments around here And so, for the second time I ask you: please provide two examples of this thing you have now twice claimed is "common" - specifically, a person saying "enforced monogamy" and then saying, "no no no I didn't mean that women should be distributed to men" You claimed it was common. I want to see at least two examples in context. This is a reasonable request given your claim. Let's go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 06:36 PM |
| 24 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesThey commonly say things like "enforced monogamy" and "when women are scarce men become violent" then say "no no no i didn't mean that women should be distributed to men. They commonly say that, eh? Please provide two examples of this """common""" saying so that I can see what you're referring to in context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Women are absolutely clueless as to how much more difficult dating is for menunderstand feminism as female interest politicized I don't necessarily disagree with that, but I do note that it makes it hard to understand the negative reaction to TERFs - those are females, with political interests, and they are widely and roundly condemned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 02:39 PM |
| 19 | Women are absolutely clueless as to how much more difficult dating is for menless gaslighting I think it's more virtue signaling than it is gaslighting. Oh sure, it has the effect of making men believe they aren't actually seeing what they're seeing (textbook gaslighting) but I think women's actual goal is just to publicly say things that are socially acceptable. It's like how, in the story The Emperor's New Clothes none of those people were gaslighting the emperor. Rather, they were just saying things that were socially acceptable to say. BTW, I want to echo what /u/Ok-… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 10:48 AM |
| 4 | Women are absolutely clueless as to how much more difficult dating is for menThat's true, but it's also true that automatic in-group bias is a thing. That's a phenomenon in psychology where people automatically assume good things about a stranger. For example, you might assume that someone of your race or sex is a good person. Studies have shown that both men and women have an in-group bias for women. I think that feminism as an ideology benefits from that greatly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 10:38 AM |
| 2 | One common issue i’ve seen here is that people tend to treat dating as some kind of equation or formulaThey seem to hate systemitizing, yes. There's a theory that systemitizing is how men typically understand our world, while empathizing is more typical for women. One characteristic of empathizing as a worldview (as opposed to a moral ideal) is that you reject comparisons and categories, and insist that everything is unique. This view (that everything is unique) is evident in the way they talk about relationships. Things "just happen" or "were meant to be" and cannot be analyzed further. Advice f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?Could be. I can definitely see that being related to abstract thinking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 02:00 AM |
| 6 | The average men does not want the average women (in the US)Here’s my attempt to change your view: 80% of women in america are overweight This is hilariously wrong. You really should google this before posting an entire thread based on it. Also, be sure to break it down by age because nobody gives a shit if 50 year old women are overweight | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 07:33 PM |
| 0 | Am I Red-pill? Why does Red-Pill have such a bad rep?Just to be clear, you're asking me to present an argument in support of Rollo because ...supporting his positions would be "impressive" ?? I'm a little lost here. I just agreed with you that the guy you responded to was wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 04:42 PM |
| 2 | Am I Red-pill? Why does Red-Pill have such a bad rep?I've taken genderstudies and a lot of things that the redpillers bring up isn't false, but how they contextualize and use it to paint a deterministic picture how womens behavior is misogynistic. I've studied TRP and a lot of things that the genderstudies bring up isn't false, but how they contextualize and use it to paint a cultural-constructivist picture how men's behavior is misogynistic. It's amazing how easy it is to make claims. Defending your worldview though, that's hard. I can do it thou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 03:33 PM |
| 2 | Am I Red-pill? Why does Red-Pill have such a bad rep?These people never have citations for their claims about TRP. Examples to disprove their claims are easy to find. Here's a recent thread and a quote: "Do you like to pretend that things other than yourself are to blame for your circumstances? ... If so, you may still be a child ... It's your responsibility to help yourself. Complaining about your situation is something children do. Men do something about it." Doesn't sound like what /u/cunningcaring said at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 03:28 PM |
| 1 | How do girls not find guys who ask them out after just meeting them creepy?Why don’t blue pillers ever quote the portion of my comment they’re replying to? Are you asking about the first thing or the second thing or both? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 10:26 AM |
| 8 | About club strategies for casual.For women: What are you watching out when looking for men DTF, or looking for a few kisses whatever, is it 100% height/looks/face/shape, or do men indeed seduce you with words and actions on the regular. This is like saying, "what kind of advertisements work on you?" People don't know what works on them - most people will swear that they are never swayed by an ad, that they're just "too smart" to fall for that. But we know that advertisements work. We have data on it. We know they work. There's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Women will settle slightly if they’re running out of time to get marriedThis is your third reply to a post by me where you haven't quoted or addressed anything I've actually said. Since you're not making any effort to engage with me, I'm not going to make any effort to engage with you. But I'll leave you with this: everything that I've actually said is true. I have sound scientific support for everything I believe. If you were able to refute anything I've actually said, you would quote it and address it. the fact that you just ignore what I said and ramble on about … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 09:22 PM |
| 2 | Women will settle slightly if they’re running out of time to get marriedyou were saying that attractive men will sleep with women of lower SMV but not actually put a ring on their finger. and you ....disagree with this claim?? There's plenty of research to suggest that this is an innate male behavior. Here's one example - 75% of men, asked if they would be willing to have sex with the researcher, answered "yes." Surely you don't believe that 75% of these men also wanted to marry her? your idea of an attractive man is an established, handsome man usually aged 35 and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 08:16 PM |
| 2 | Women will settle slightly if they’re running out of time to get marriedWhich portion of my comment, if any, are you disagreeing with. I don't really see where you cited anything I actually said, and addressed it. Also, you apparently went and found a SEVEN YEAR OLD post I made and replied to that with the same failure: you didn't address anything in the post! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 06:41 PM |
| 4 | Women will settle slightly if they’re running out of time to get marriedI'll just say this, it's very telling that you apparently disagree, but are apparently unable to articulate or defend that disagreement. You give me nothing meaningful to respond to, so I can safely discard your opinion. If anything I have ever written on reddit is actually false, I am confident that someone will quote it, and present an argument for why it's false. You are seemingly unable to do that. Your disagreement isn't actually with me - it's with a straw man that you have invented yourse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 02:51 PM |
| 5 | Women will settle slightly if they’re running out of time to get marriedcontradict your belief Can you quote the portion of my post which you have misinterpreted to mean that "women shrivel up and expire at 30?" As a tip (I don't know if you're new to reddit or what) if you can take 2 seconds to quote the person you're disagreeing with, you'll likely find that you argue against fewer straw men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 02:42 PM |
| 1 | If we had absolutely perfect data on sex and relationships, what are the sorts of things we would discover about people?If you hear the phrase, "it just happened" - who do you picture saying that? It's a woman, of course! You don't often hear men using that excuse. Women inclined to cheat don't want or need a website. They get approached by men and "it just happens" Also, men who are successful with women are not so dumb as to use that website either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 02:40 PM |
| -1 | Women will settle slightly if they’re running out of time to get marriedGreat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 02:37 PM |
| 2 | If we had absolutely perfect data on sex and relationships, what are the sorts of things we would discover about people?80/20 rule would be proven, though in reality it would be closer to 65/35 or even 60/40. It always cracks me up that everyone assumes the numbers have to add up to 100. The Pareto Principle states that "80% of an effect is due to 20% of the inputs" - the fact that 80+20=100 is purely a coincidence. If the relationship changes, it doesn't have to change such that it continues to add to any particular number. Men cheat a lot, but a lot less than people think My suspicion is that most incidents of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 02:33 PM |
| 4 | Women will settle slightly if they’re running out of time to get marriedWomen's perspectives are skewed by two facts: (1) men who would never commit to them are nonetheless willing to sleep with them. As a result, women are able to have flings with very attractive men - and these women may come to believe that those men are "in their league." A gender-flipped version of this is the fact that women who would never sleep with you are nonetheless willing to take money from you. So, picture some guy who is giving money to an only-fans girl. Imagine him actually believin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 02:12 PM |
| 3 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?It’s possible for women to be antisocial, have low self esteem, emotionally fucked up, etc. that stops them from having relationships. The reasons are irrelevant. Your “league” is the population of men who will commit to you. Similarly (and again, note how this point is not even remotely controversial when applied to men) a man’s league is the population of women who will have sex with him. Now imagine a man who uses the same logic you just used. Imagine a man who says “no, no, this isn’t my lea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 10:52 AM |
| 12 | How do girls not find guys who ask them out after just meeting them creepy?When you meet a girl, you talk to her, take an interest in her, get to know her, and if you are interested in her, you say something along the lines of, "I really like talking to you; we should go out sometime." There's nothing creepy about that. I suspect that what you're imagining is more like this: "Hi, my name is joe, please date and send bob and vagine" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 08:05 PM |
| 11 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?Is [fill in the blank with literally anything] a high standard??? "high" and "low" are irrelevant. If you cannot get [fill in the blank with literally anything] then that means men with [fill in the blank with literally anything] are simply out of your league. It doesn't matter if [fill in the blank with literally anything] is objectively "high" or "low" as far as standards go. You can retire from the dating market. That's always an option. Don't let the door hit you on the way out! But if you c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 06:21 PM |
| 19 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?Attention Women If you desire commitment, but you have trouble finding a man who will commit to you, then your standards are unrealistic. Consider the possibility that you calibrated your standards against the population of men who were willing to fuck you when you were young and attractive. Those men were never "your league" - not for commitment anyway. "Your league" for the purposes of commitment is the population of men who are willing to commit to you. Pick one of those guys, and go in peace… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 03:55 PM |
| 2 | What is the appeal of submission in women?despite Red Pillers saying up and down that this is a primal instinct in all men. It is a primal instinct. And yet, there is always variation. This is literally how evolution works. The question is: which men leave more and healthier offspring? You haven't actually seen red pillers "saying up and down" that all men are identical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 03:18 PM |
| -2 | What is the appeal of submission in women?(1) "submissive" (2) "one of those macho dudes who thinks women should be seen and not heard" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 03:14 PM |
| 3 | What is the appeal of submission in women?Fallacy of the excluded middle | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 11:09 AM |
| 1 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?I see this so often here Me too. It's really frustrating. People seemingly cannot think abstractly. They have an opinion about (X) and they'll give you a reason - and they really believe their reason, I'm sure, when they state it. But then if you apply their logic to something else they just fold in half. I really hope I don't ever do that. I posted a lot in TRP back in the day. I hope that I never fell into that trap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 11:46 PM |
| 0 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?You thought the hypothetical implied that everyone wants to ride a motorcycle. That's not true. It implied no such thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 04:11 PM |
| 0 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?How would you know that, given that you didn't follow it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?I'm a man myself Completely irrelevant. Here's what's relevant: she said, "I want men to be attracted to (A)" ....literally doesn't matter what (A) is. Fill in the blank. And my response is that you don't get to say that. You may find a man who is attracted to (A) and if you do, GREAT!! Good for you!! But the men who aren't attracted to (A) aren't "wrong" or "bad" And the example I gave to demonstrate this was a man saying, "I want women to be attracted to (B)" ....literally doesn't matter what … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 04:06 PM |
| 0 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?lies *sigh* when I try to help you to understand a thing, and I use a hypothetical to do that, and YOU MISUNDERSTAND THE HYPOTHETICAL then we're kind of stuck, and we can't transition back to the main topic. You aren't capable of understanding the hypothetical, regardless of what you think about the post. It's a bit sad, actually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 04:02 PM |
| 0 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?assuming everyone no, I'm very sorry that you can't follow this. It's so simple to me though. The hypothetical I posted was, "how should I be safe when riding a motorcycle" and somehow you have twisted that up inside your own mind to be an assumption that everyone wants to ride a motorcycle. You're just wrong. You're simply not following. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?One of my favorite Carl Sagan quotes is from Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors: "if we imagine that we are purely, or even mainly, rational beings, we will never know ourselves." And, the main point of that book is finding the answer to your question - what is it in the human psyche that rejects rationality. We're built to rationalize after the fact. That much is certain. Everyone does it, so I'm sure I do it too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 03:42 PM |
| 1 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?many people here don't talk about marriage or want one Irrelevant. Many people don't care about motorcycles but if there's a thread with a title like, "how should I be safe when riding a motorcycle" and someone responds, "always wear a helmet" and then you reply, "NO!!! iTS aLwaYs neCEsary eVerY vehiCLe is DIFFERENT!!" And then I point out that we're talking about motorcycles and you ask how I know that and I say, "well, it's in the title - that's the context of this thread" And then you reply, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?...and now you'll likely respond with some variation of, "that's not the same though" - which totally misses the point. It's the same thought process. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 03:24 PM |
| 2 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?Women who grew up privileged and are affluent also retain this “joy” because they don’t have to deal with certain things It’s hardly about age [citation needed] That hasn't been my experience at all! And come to think of it, nowhere is your claim reflected in popular culture, which can be taken in certain cases as a barometer of relatable experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/22 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?if someone has the passion and ability to study something they love then dam straight they should do that. good for you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/22 08:36 PM |
| 8 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?How many men in their early 20s are ready for a wife and kids? In my opinion, far, far more than the number of marriage-worthy women. To put that another way, "running out of men" is not really a problem you need to worry about if you're a 20-something woman who would make a good wife. "Running out of men" becomes a problem when you're in your 30s with a kid in tow, because then the men don't want you. Women in their 20s don't get married because they don't want to. Any woman who deviates from t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/22 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?How is this "success"? (a) she's happy (b) she's not whining, "where are all the good men" Getting old, single men is the easiest thing in the world. I don't believe most women can get any man, regardless of age, to marry them. My evidence for this is the preponderance of women lamenting "where are all the good men" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/22 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?Did you also think Jerry Springer was what people were really like as a kid? hAhaA gOOd 1 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/22 08:22 PM |
| 4 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?The same thought pattern I have when I see someone with a PhD in french poetry get a high-paying job: "good for them, but that's not a viable strategy" If you're young, and your cunning plan to be happy in life is, "I'll settle down when I'm 60" ... or if you're just starting college and your cunning plan is, "I'm going to major in french poetry" then to you I would say, "that's a bad idea" And if you reply by pointing to someone with a french poetry degree who got a job, I'll just say "good for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/22 08:20 PM |
| 2 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?In love with my youth right Largely, but I don't want you to misunderstand me and think I'm only talking about good skin and firm tits. There's a different attitude in youth. I explained it in more detail here if you're interested. The way young (ie 20s vs 30s) women act is as big a part of what makes them attractive as the way they look. Not my intelligence kindness honest compassionate nature It's unreasonable for you to imagine you have the privilege of deciding what will motivate other peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/22 08:17 PM |
| 0 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?Im better off settling for someone who's attracted to my youth and beauty God forbid your goal is that your husband actually be in love | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/22 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?I didn't say there was. I said the "Y" was in the title (and also the general context of all discussions here) and I'm right | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/22 07:40 PM |
| 4 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?Note the difference between these two things you said: general advice and some universal rule book that will make everyone happy Imagine we're talking about job hunting. Imagine I give you advice like, "wear a suit to your interview" - that's general advice. What I mean by "general advice" is that it's more likely than not to be the right thing to do. But I don't think you're a robot - I expect you to be smart enough to modify this advice if needed. It's general advice it is not "some universal … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/22 07:39 PM |
| 2 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?Say men/women should do X if they want Y "Y" is the context of this discussion! It is the last word of the title of this thread!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/22 07:31 PM |
| 0 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?The topic of this thread is a video featuring a woman who employed a successful strategy. I contrasted that woman's strategy with what is somewhat more typical for a woman to do (date aimlessly in her 20s and then start making demands later) ... and your response is to ask what's the alternative to this?? Obviously, the alternative is the OP video. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/22 07:28 PM |
| 5 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?Yeah we’ve seen the sub and it’s a lonely male revenge fantasy. The "cacophony" I refer to isn't a subreddit, it's mainstream society. Do you see the words, "study suggests" at the end of the title of this news article - the fact that there is a news article about a problem when face, and the fact that there's an academic study is what I'm talking about You will never see a study or a news article which takes seriously or treats as reasonable a male problem like, "lack of healthy-weight women is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/22 07:23 PM |
| 3 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?Fewer women are interested in transactional marriages/motherhood at a young age. You're still not fully comprehending the uselessness of blue-pill advice. What you just said is akin to pointing out that "fewer people are interested in retirement at a young age" - pointing this out in response to someone who says, "you should start saving for retirement at a young age" - someone who says this to a person who asks for financial advice. Did you follow all of that? If you want financial advice, then… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/22 07:17 PM |
| 13 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?they had every intention of marrying the guy but something happened. and blue pillers are categorically incapable of noticing the patterns that might explain this and help women achieve success. I'll explain it to you, though my experience here in PPD suggests you wont hear it. If a 24 year old woman is willing to be a girlfriend and make herself sexually available to a man, almost every man will take that deal - about the only exceptions will be men out of her league, for whom multiple women ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/22 04:47 PM |
| 8 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?I don't understand this what women should do or what men should do discourse It's a reaction to people whining. Everyone agrees that everyone is entitled to do as they will. Fine. But if you make your choices and then later whine about your outcomes, then people are going to say, "ah, here's the problem: your choices were bad" If men are whining that they can't get women, and we see that these men are out of shape because they play video games all day, then we connect that choice (video games) w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/22 04:39 PM |
| 9 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?You didn't actually address the claim that's being made. The claim is that when a woman is young, she has more "buying" power which allows her to, if she makes this her goal, secure a higher-value man. Delaying reduces her buying power, regardless of the number of children she eventually has. That's the claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/22 04:34 PM |
| 17 | Do you agree/disagree with this discussion that women should not fuck around till their 30's in finding a husband?Every woman is different. This is the quintessential blue-pill (non) advice. And I doubt you understand how harmful it is; how many women end up unhappy because people like you repeat this claptrap. Yes, yes, all of everything is different. Literally, there are differences between two ballbearings (the most uniform, featureless thing I could think of). Yes, it's true! ...and it's also irrelevant to the question being asked. There are general principles in life that can be shown to give a person … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/22 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Men would you trade getting more attention for increase risk of being sodomized, stalked, harassed and being sex trafficked for more attention and special treatment from women?All you have is sarcasm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/22 08:53 PM |
| 0 | Men would you trade getting more attention for increase risk of being sodomized, stalked, harassed and being sex trafficked for more attention and special treatment from women?You're not capable of either. You're wrong ...about everything. And your deflection here is just that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/22 08:43 PM |
| 0 | Men would you trade getting more attention for increase risk of being sodomized, stalked, harassed and being sex trafficked for more attention and special treatment from women?The very next sentence which is also your opinion The next sentence is: "As I see it, OP's question is, 'would you accept [good thing] if it also meant you got [risk of bad thing]'" If you disagree. Then you quote that sentence you and you say something along the lines of "NO!!!! OP IsNT saYINg that aT Alll!!!! hears wHAT Op iS saYING!!!! _____" and you fill in the blank with what you think OP is saying. Good luck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/22 07:51 PM |
| 3 | Men would you trade getting more attention for increase risk of being sodomized, stalked, harassed and being sex trafficked for more attention and special treatment from women?You can have that opinion, but it's still wrong. And you can have that opinion, but you're still wrong. Only arguments matter. Notice that the very next sentence after the one that you quoted is an argument that supports my opinion. As you have not (even attempted to) rebut that argument, it stands. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/22 11:51 AM |
| 7 | Romantic successes and failures can have profound impacts on how men thinkYou use this word: because as if you've never in your life heard the admonition: correlation is not causation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/22 04:09 AM |
| 5 | Men would you trade getting more attention for increase risk of being sodomized, stalked, harassed and being sex trafficked for more attention and special treatment from women?Those two things are related In my opinion, that's irrelevant. As I see it, OP's question is, "would you accept [good thing] if it also meant you got [risk of bad thing]" The fact that the bad thing is related to the good thing doesn't change the calculation OP is asking us to perform. The calculation is: does the value of this good thing outweigh the cost of the bad thing, when the risk of the bad thing is taken into account. And my point is, the value is fairly high, and the risk is quite low.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/22 02:32 AM |
| 6 | Men would you trade getting more attention for increase risk of being sodomized, stalked, harassed and being sex trafficked for more attention and special treatment from women?Can you help me understand why you think that's relevant to the comment I made? Please actually think about the point I made. Is your comment a rebuttal to that point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/22 01:10 AM |
| 29 | Men would you trade getting more attention for increase risk of being sodomized, stalked, harassed and being sex trafficked for more attention and special treatment from women?it's rare enough to not care. OP's question is like asking, "would you take a million dollars cash but your chances of being struck by lightning are doubled" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 11:28 PM |
| 1 | I keep seeing we have enormously high standards but like what exactly are they? And why does the dating world not reflect said absurdly Hugh standards most women have?even if women are dating out of their league, I’m still confused on the issue The only issue is that women complain. They whine, "where are all the good men" - and mainstream society entertains this whining. If you swipe reject 99 men and then get ghosted by 1, that's a "you" problem and people are right to laugh at you. ...maybe you personally aren't complaining. K. Great. Then there's no issue. Go in peace. But if you spend your 20s being passed around by 1% of men, and then in your 30s you wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/22 11:26 PM |
| 1 | Thought Experiment: Build Your Fighter (Dater)As an aside (and an opportunity for anyone who wants to implement this) I guarantee you'd go viral with a video of some people who you assume are about to play dnd but actually they end up roleplaying over-the-top stereotypes of chads | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/22 02:42 PM |
| 2 | RP theories - is it more an American thing?glucose levels impact how likely a person to get a parole from judge, but for some reasons people arent affected by primal instinct, kids overcoming instincts my ass. Jordan Peterson was trying to make a similar point when he brought up dominance hierarchies in lobsters. His point was: if you saw this behavior in humans, you would assume it's 100% a cultural construct (and you'd label it "oppressive" and call it "patriarchy") but culture isn't an explanation for this species - the only possible … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/22 04:58 PM |
| 2 | RP theories - is it more an American thing?I still don't understand why TRP argues instincts this, instincts that when overcoming instincts is something that kids learn very early on Oh, this is a great question! The answer is, what we're trying to do is most similar to marketing. We (men) are a product that we want women to "buy" - we're trying to figure out how to market ourselves to women. Yes, yes, of course it's true that ""everyone is different"" and yeah, sure, you're a unique and beautiful snowflake and totally "not like the othe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/22 01:52 PM |
| 6 | RP theories - is it more an American thing?a society where people are forced to be happy. If I had suggested anything remotely like that, you would have quoted it. I can always tell when you PPDers aren't arguing in good faith, because you don't quote me. And it's kind of a sad situation for you, because you go around believing that TRPers said things we didn't say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/22 12:24 PM |
| 6 | RP theories - is it more an American thing?The goal of TRP is to accurately describe the underlying instincts that motivate human sexuality. (a) those instincts are universal. They exist in all human populations. (b) they vary from person to person. This is actually an important feature of evolution. There's variation in every generation. So for example, it's possible to find a female widowbird that prefers short tails, even though the majority prefers long tails. And it's possible to find a woman who likes short men, but in TRP we would… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/22 11:49 AM |
| 10 | Women have said they make "relationship material" men wait for sex because they care about them and they didn't care about the other guys or see a future with the other guys. What's the logic?It’d be a different matter if she said she regretted what she did in the past, but OP’s story suggests she doesn’t. And the women here in PPD don’t seem to understand how insulting that is. It is absolutely dual matting strategy, and it’s going to hurt like hell when he breaks up and she bangs some guy that same night. If she deserved any respect for the way she’s treating OP, her story would be, “I was promiscuous in the past and it was a huge mistake that I’ll never repeat- and the greatest re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/22 10:51 PM |
| 2 | What other socially acceptable ways to pickup women?Your whole attitude is wrong. I gave you one example and you respond as if I said "you must be getting alcohol" You don't seem willing to try to get a male friend to help you. I told you, that needs to be priority 1. You also don't seem willing to practice on people that you don't want to sleep with. I told you to get used to chatting up anyone that you can. If you do that, then you would realize that no, you don't have to be getting alcohol - you just have to be ready for your opening. I chatte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/22 03:33 AM |
| 1 | What other socially acceptable ways to pickup women?that stuff is irrelevant I disagree. I think I am zeroing in on your problem: (1) you haven't practiced enough before concluding it doesn't work (2) you don't have any guy friends to help you. how do you escalate to contact information? One case that jumps to mind is some girls in a liquor store on a Saturday night. My opener was a joke response to what one of them said. They laughed (otherwise, I wouldn't have just moved on), so I followed up asking them what they were doing later. I told them … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/22 03:11 AM |
| 1 | What other socially acceptable ways to pickup women?I can and have done all that This is like responding to someone who tells you to exercise, "I did go to the gym but I'm still fat!!" expect to strike out 99/100 times make friends with similar interest and get feedback from them. We're often blind to the things we're doing wrong. I had a buddy point out to me that I was using self-deprecating humor. And I pointed out to him that he was interrupting people. if you don't have a friend that you can talk to about this stuff, make that your number 1 … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/22 02:51 AM |
| 35 | What other socially acceptable ways to pickup women?You absolutely can do all of those things though. Part of the problem, I'm convinced, is that socially-inept men need more specific advice. I mean, take this bit from the OP: "Can't ask them out at random stores." And you're saying that you can (and I agree), but I promise you, some dude is going to walk up to a woman in Walmart and say nothing other than, "hey, go out on a date with me" - and that's never going to work. You really do have to have a pretext for talking to a stranger. The reason … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 04:15 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: What do women mean by a guy being emotionally mature/intelligent?When the guy opens up his emotions, she loses all respect for him. No, that's not quite it. The way it actually works is, you can express emotions, they just have to be the emotions of a winner. For example, don't "open up" to your girl that you're worried you're going to lose your job. That's loser-talk. Instead, get your resume in order and renew some old business contacts. Get a better job, and then afterwards you can tell her, "I was worried that my boss had it in for me, so that's why I mad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 03:25 PM |
| 3 | Q4M What do you tell men who have been hurt by numerous women compared to what you tell women who have been hurt by numerous men?Huh??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 04:30 PM |
| 4 | Q4M What do you tell men who have been hurt by numerous women compared to what you tell women who have been hurt by numerous men?It means you're being judged. There are a few different reactions you could have, given this fact. (1) you could whine about how it's not fair. You could say that you should be treated the same no matter what. You could spout some pleasant-sounding (but useless) sermon about how everyone has "value" Or (2) you could do your best to behave in a way that will result in you being judged favorably. You wont always succeed, of course. But when you fail, you could accept it and try again. How are you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 03:45 PM |
| 7 | Q4M What do you tell men who have been hurt by numerous women compared to what you tell women who have been hurt by numerous men?It’s funny how that works, isn’t it? You try to have a conversation about group differences and inevitably everyone is somehow the exception. So it’s like, if you say, “women tend to be shorter than men” - every reply is, “but I’m a woman and I’m tall!!” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 11:10 AM |
| 4 | Q4M What do you tell men who have been hurt by numerous women compared to what you tell women who have been hurt by numerous men?Most men don't have the luxury to be criticized for "bad choices" because they can barely choose at all. The only thing I’d like to add here is that to a certain extent, a woman’s behavior is a reflection of the man’s frame. I don’t say this as an excuse- nobody should be mistreated. But we don’t live in a “should be” world. In the world we actually live in, if your behavior as a man shows weakness, it changes the way she perceives you and the way she acts. No, I’m not claiming you can “turn a h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 10:42 AM |
| 3 | Do men over 30 really get higher in sexual market value?it’s still easier for women to date in their 30s Depends on what you mean by “date” It’s always going to be easier for women to get sex. But if by “date” you mean an enjoyable evening out on the town, or you mean a satisfying committed relationship, then no I don’t think it gets easier, given what I see women complaining about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 10:21 PM |
| 2 | Is dating actually fun for you?I didn't try to shoehorn every person into a serious relationship A lot of guys are all push and no pull. The best way to go is to be playful (in the masculine, flirtatious way) and then back off a bit and let her come to you. If you open a girl and can't make her laugh within a minute or two, just let it go, man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 01:25 PM |
| 3 | Is dating actually fun for you?Well said Flirting is fun | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 12:11 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: What’s your definition of an orbiter?going out of your way to be around her A lot of them can't even make it that far. They just follow the girl on social media and like all their posts. Pick any hot girl, look at her last few posts on whatever social media; find a dude who liked or commented on all of them; ask the girl if she knows him. There's a good chance she doesn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/22 12:35 PM |
| 2 | Dating for men is like looking or a job while dating for women is like recruiting for a positionGo outside. How do you the “outside” population isn’t skewed for some reason? I mean, this is your argument (that you can’t quantify) not mine, but why doesn’t the same logic apply? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 12:20 PM |
| 2 | Dating for men is like looking or a job while dating for women is like recruiting for a positionTake a wild guess No If you wish to claim that the population of dating sites differs in a relevant way from the general population, then you must support that claim | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 07:56 AM |
| 12 | Dating for men is like looking or a job while dating for women is like recruiting for a positionThere’s ample evidence that women believe 80% of men are below average. Is it possible that your assessment of the prospects of an “average” man is, in reality, an assessment of the prospects of a top 20% man? Your worldview makes perfect sense if we assume that’s who you’re actually talking about | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 12:43 AM |
| 2 | Girls not wearing make-up should be normalised.Make-up is a result of women-to-women competition. A student once asked, "why are trees so tall?" The teacher replied, "because all the other trees are tall" You can imagine a world where an oak tree grows to a height of only a few meters, and then spreads it limbs out - that oak tree gets the same amount of sunlight as our oak trees get. But then, if a neighboring tree grows just a little higher, it gets more light, and it out-competes the short one. This kicks off an arms race and results in t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/22 02:55 PM |
| 2 | What can actually be done to improve the dating scene for everyoneMen going after younger women because they didn't enjoy their 20's All men go after younger women. Younger women are hotter. It has nothing to do with "enjoying one's 20's" Nonetheless, if you're a woman and you invest your 20's wisely - if you commit to a good man in exchange for his commitment - then you deserve the security of that man staying with you in your 40s and beyond. And if that man betrays you and breaks his promise by ending that commitment, then you absolutely deserve every penny … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/22 09:45 AM |
| 0 | Dating is 100% a numbers game for men, and it is inherently humiliating.I’m struggling to see how anything you wrote relates to anything I wrote. I hope you’ll clarify it for me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/22 07:14 PM |
| 2 | Dating is 100% a numbers game for men, and it is inherently humiliating.You say in the title that: it is inherently humiliating. I'm not sure what exactly you mean by that. Here's the definition: "make (someone) feel ashamed and foolish by injuring their dignity and self-respect, especially publicly." What you receive a polite (let's assume it's polite) rejection, do you feel "ashamed" and "foolish" - why?? I don't think you should feel that way if you were polite yourself and stayed within the established social norms (for example, you don't interrupt people or mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/22 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Do people genuinely think only women “hit the wall?”Having a sense of style is absolutely one of the oldest gay stereotypes there is. uh huh. Have you ever seen a the following: (A => B) !=> (B => A) Maybe you saw it in a textbook or something? High heels are a stereotypical accouterment of drag queens, but if I tell you someone is wearing high heels, and you jump to, "they're a drag queen" ...you miiiiight be off course because (A => B) !=> (B => A) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/22 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Do people genuinely think only women “hit the wall?”the word that this description is supposed to make me think is "attractive," and not "homosexual"? lol! has a successful business <-- only gay guys start businesses! very wealthy <-- women hate money designer suit <-- straight guys shop at walmart! confidence <-- the most attractive thing to a woman is when you're unsure of yourself - also, be sure to cry a lot. charisma <-- honestly, just being able to spell charisma makes you gay. ambitious <-- you know who else was ambitios? HITLER!! passion … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/22 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Do people genuinely think only women “hit the wall?”go UP? From the time he was in his 20s? Yes. Of course! Imagine an average 20 year old male. Imagine he's a bit shy, a bit awkward, maybe a bit of acne. He's wearing jeans and a dirty shirt. If you ask him to talk about himself he shrugs and then says he's really, really into anime. lol. Oh and also he's broke. Imagine he's in college talking to a girl around his age. This about how boring he seems to her. She's likely very interested and engaged in her degree. She may have spent the summer trav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/22 05:28 PM |
| 1 | Do people genuinely think only women “hit the wall?”None of this is fact. Here's what I said: "men tend to be taller than women" You're wrong, that's a fact. Here's a source: https://ourworldindata.org/human-height ...if you meant something else in my post, you need to use proper reddiquette and quote the portion you disagree with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/22 04:14 PM |
| 2 | Do people genuinely think only women “hit the wall?”TRP loves extremes and black and white thinking. Not really. Blue pillers love cherry picking and arguing against straw-men though. The concept of "the wall" is the idea that the way attractiveness changes with age is different for men than it is for women. Women's attractiveness necessarily goes down, but men's MAY go up ...or it may not, but its decline is not a certainty like it is for women. There's plenty of scientific support for this, but it's also easy to see in society. A big part of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/22 03:31 PM |
| 2 | People who say men aren't vulnerable/don't open up emotionally/aren't as good at expressing/processing their emotions: what are examples of what this would actually look like?I'm not the inventor either and I didn't mean that as an accusation - just that I agree it works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/22 12:50 AM |
| 4 | People who say men aren't vulnerable/don't open up emotionally/aren't as good at expressing/processing their emotions: what are examples of what this would actually look like?anti-game | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 09:50 PM |
| 1 | What makes women not happy about the current dating market?Thank you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 05:25 PM |
| 1 | What makes women not happy about the current dating market?no one I know uses tinder Ok. It’s kind of weird then that you hopped into a thread that mentions “swiping on tinder” in the very first sentence and you declared the issue was “an abundance of shit” and you subsequently posted like 20 comments in this thread. I guess I don’t understand why your first post didn’t say “I have no idea what I’m talking about” but whatever I want to try just one more time, even though this is like pulling teeth: on any dating app that you might be familiar with, wher… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 04:28 PM |
| 1 | What makes women not happy about the current dating market?what I see as their unfiltered options is gross So it’s higher than 90% what would a “quality” option look like on tinder? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 12:49 PM |
| 1 | What makes women not happy about the current dating market?I may not agree with you, but your perspective is interesting, so thanks for putting it out there. It seems most women agree with you, yes? And you’re talking about tinder specifically, or all OLD apps? Ashen you say “abundance” do you mean 90% is “shit” or is it higher than that? On Tinder, what would “quality” look like? What would “not shit” (a man who isn’t low quality, but still maybe just not your type) look like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 10:31 AM |
| 1 | A man who is above average looking, say 7-9 should have no problem landing a woman of equal attractiveness. The fact that they are forced to work for it and still often struggle to even get their attention perfectly epitomizes women’s inflated self images due to abundance.they hype men up with that lie and tell them they look better with age? Can you please link to an example or two of this so that I can see what you’re talking about in context? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/22 03:33 AM |
| 1 | Statements like “women don’t owe you sex“ and “men aren’t entitled to women’s bodies” are not accurate depictions of how the vast majority of men think and simply more deflectionsThanks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/22 05:16 PM |
| 3 | Statements like “women don’t owe you sex“ and “men aren’t entitled to women’s bodies” are not accurate depictions of how the vast majority of men think and simply more deflectionsYou’ve also filtered out attractive women with options. I disagree. In my experience, if a girl likes you, then she wants to spend time with you, regardless (within reason) of the venue. Who you're actually filtering is women who aren't really excited about the prospect of the date in the first place, but would show up for salt bae. And as a man, hoping to convert a girl whose opinion of you is "meh" into attraction, by bribing her with an expensive dinner is a waste of your time. Actually, it's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/22 03:38 PM |
| -4 | How do you explain sexist women?I don't do hypotheticals. Yeah see, that's a big part of why your logic is flawed. You are not capable of thinking about it except in the most shallow way possible. When abortion rights are curtailed in places like Texas, remember this: it's your fault Well, people like you - people who "don't do hypotheticals." If you were able to think - and to learn this skill you'd have to practice, including with hypotheticals - then you could argue successfully for abortion rights. But you can't. It's just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/22 02:38 AM |
| 0 | How do you explain sexist women?Here's a thought experiment that shows the flaw in your logic: do you believe anyone has the right to force you to do any kind of work? For the purposes of this thought experiment, let's imagine we're talking about driving a car or flying a plane. Can anyone force you to do those things? BTW, I agree that abortion should be legal (and it should be free too). I just think your arguments for it are faulty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/22 02:24 AM |
| 1 | The logistics of dating as a man.Burger land | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/22 02:10 AM |
| 4 | The logistics of dating as a man.I meant it to contradict the bad advice that women were giving. Their bad advice isn't malicious. It's just that they can't possibly test any of the things they're saying, and they've all had bad experiences where guys were rude or pushy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/22 10:34 PM |
| 13 | The logistics of dating as a man.Get in shape; get a modicum of style (don’t look like a bum); practice talking to strangers so that you’re good at it (don’t expect that you’re going to be shy you’re whole life then one day meet a girl and be capable of holding her interest) - and women will be okay with you talking to them (so long as you’re respectful) anywhere When women relate “bad experiences” the part they’re leaving out is that the guy was unattractive or had a bad approach (rude, pushy, or just plain weird) I’ve gotten … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/22 10:03 PM |
| 1 | How do you deal with girls who KNOW about redpill and try to make you admit to it and humiliate you because of it?Oh yeah, I'm not being too hard on myself. Rejection is a fact of life. the best I can do is try to learn from it. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/03/22 01:41 AM |
| 3 | How do you deal with girls who KNOW about redpill and try to make you admit to it and humiliate you because of it?Yes, I agree. Risk management is a big factor in women's actions. And as men, we should be empathetic to that. However, it's also true that certain types of risk, and certain risky behaviors, are attractive to women and of themselves. "Bad boys" aren't safe, and that's part of their appeal. The bottom line is, when I got to the point with this girl where I suggested we go some place else, she wasn't sufficiently attracted to me. Maybe I blew it. Maybe if I could watch a replay of the night I'd s… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/03/22 04:06 PM |
| 1 | How can you know if the man you are dating is into redpill stuff?I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm happy to have a discussion with you, but I'll need you to quote something I've said, and then articulate your thoughts about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 12:44 PM |
| 56 | How do you deal with girls who KNOW about redpill and try to make you admit to it and humiliate you because of it?Your post presents a great opportunity to explain the difference between TRP and PUA. A "pickup artist" needs only a surface-level understanding of human sexual dynamics. PUAs are interested in "tactics" and "routines" - simple, repeatable actions - and they don't necessarily even care why they work. In a way, they're sort of like tourists. "Teach me how to get laid" - they ask, and if you tell them chicks dig juggling, they'll rush out and start learning to juggle. They don't care why it works … | /r/TheRedPill | 24/03/22 12:03 PM |
| 0 | The abundance of options women have has gotten so out of control that even genuine mutual attraction and chemistry aren’t enough to keep their attentionHere's a tip for you /u/Hoosker-Doos: it's always better to err on the side of letting a girl "reign you in" a bit, rather than to be cautious. What that means in practical terms is that if you think you've got a connection, you should keep escalating things until you're having sex, or she reigns you in and puts a stop to it. The alternative, where you think "oh boy, she likes me, imma get her number and chat with her next Tuesday" is not what top-tier guys do. And if you fail to behave like tho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/22 08:31 PM |
| 27 | This article reads like some Chad rejected the writer after telling him she has gonorrhea from her blianta leadhbógach!men and women seek each other for entirely different reasons. The gender-flipped version is some guy saying “It has come to my attention that women value financial security! You have no right!!!” | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 16/03/22 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Huge dating gap in college vs. non college educated poolsThats what spawned the 60s no, the 60s is two decades after ww2. The 60s are boomers. WW2 is their parents. Their parents came back from war to a country where women outnumbered men, but (as far as I know) their parents were mostly monogamous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/22 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Huge dating gap in college vs. non college educated pools(e.g. after WW2, young women outnumbered men). I’m curious to know why the ww2 generation didn’t engage in hookup culture then. Was it because there was no birth control? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/22 11:42 AM |
| 4 | This idea that women are racking up high body counts at a young age is greatly exaggerated, most women have fewer than 10 sexual partners in their entire livesThe funny part is he sent me a multitude of studies within our conversation, using them to source other points he made. But the studies I sent about women’s sexual partners were “lies” and “invalid”. There's nothing wrong with having categorical objections to studies. For example, there's nothing wrong with saying, "I only accept quantitative data, and I reject survey data." Furthermore, if you're in your 20s and you're leaning on studies that count "lifetime partners" then you're mixing in a wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 11:40 AM |
| 8 | This idea that women are racking up high body counts at a young age is greatly exaggerated, most women have fewer than 10 sexual partners in their entire livesthe bubble I’m in isn’t representative of reality It is possible that we're all in a bubble. The most obvious cause would be survivorship bias: more promiscuous people repeatedly go back to the dating market, so we're more likely to encounter them. For women, there's the extra factor that, as all the data from OLD shows us, they are selecting only a few men. The enormous excess desirability this confers to those men undoubtedly alters the men's behavior. So, when women complain about bad behavio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 11:18 AM |
| 1 | Seems to me that being the one that's constantly pursued just makes you develop a form of victim complex.sorry that happened to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 02:32 AM |
| 1 | Seems to me that being the one that's constantly pursued just makes you develop a form of victim complex.Would you buy that explanation? Sure. I can tell you, it definitely happens that a girl will find you attractive and then you open your big mouth and talk your way out of pussy. lol. Happens all the time. Have you seen this interview? tl;dw the author being interviewed references a study in which women listed hundreds of reasons they'd refuse a second date with a man. The reasons include things like, "he did an impression of Austin Powers" and "his belt didn't match his shoes" So yes, there's ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 10:25 PM |
| 6 | Seems to me that being the one that's constantly pursued just makes you develop a form of victim complex.I've had men persue me for years. YEARS. Just for sex. I'd like for you explain/define/provide examples of "pursuit" - what exactly did he do for years that constitutes "pursuit" And I'd like you to explain how exactly you know it was "just for sex" - did he fuck you once and then say "har har, that was all I ever wanted now I'm gone!" I mean, how do you know that he didn't actually desire a relationship with you, but then changed his mind after experiencing (presumably bad) sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 04:06 PM |
| 4 | What incentive does a Woman have right now to NOT partake in Dual Mating?The incentive is happiness. Womens happiness continues to decline. maybe they’re doing something wrong | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 01:25 PM |
| 1 | [35-F] I am strong values, principles and family-oriented person that's why I've wasted my timeuntil now, that I want the love of my life. BTW, it must look like the guy in the pictureokay yeah, so you're unattractive. Does that mean you can't chat people up? | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 10/03/22 07:26 PM |
| 1 | TRP and FDS both seem to really hate men and women, yet they still want the very people they hateFor me, casual sex always meant spending time with the girl before and after. In my blue-pill days I would hop into a committed relationship if that was what they wanted, and we've live together, or get married, and then inevitably they'd be bored and the situation would deteriorate. Once I went red-pill, I just wouldn't commit. But I'd still have girls over for the weekend, and I'd still treat them as well as I could. What's amazing is that nobody ever got bored with me. In fact, they were goin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/22 06:58 PM |
| 11 | [35-F] I am strong values, principles and family-oriented person that's why I've wasted my timeuntil now, that I want the love of my life. BTW, it must look like the guy in the pictureThe umbrellas and stuff in the OP pic suggest a resort, so it may not even be what you'd think of as a "pool party" - those people may not even know each other. If you're asking about rich dudes that throw epic parties, it varies a lot. A tame one is just a cookout, but if the weather is nice, girls will take a dip in the pool and then lay out. There are usually successive waves of girls that come through. The early ones are the laid-back types who eat a little, drink a little, control themselve… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 10/03/22 04:29 AM |
| 3 | The line between being taken advantage of and taking responsibility is really blurry with women.I think you’re saying that people are more likely to be shitty if they feel they have the option to (correct me if I’m wrong here). But what’s missing is that women want men to not be shitty even if they do have the option to. I would state it in the positive rather than the negative. Instead of saying "want men to not be shitty" I would say: women want a man to value them And yes, my position in this thread is: value is related to replaceability. The meaning of the phrase, "they're a dime a doz… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/22 03:21 PM |
| 3 | The line between being taken advantage of and taking responsibility is really blurry with women.Are you only capable of keeping one thought in your head at a time? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/22 12:51 AM |
| 3 | The line between being taken advantage of and taking responsibility is really blurry with women.Specifically which words did you have trouble with? We can take it very, very slow, if that's what you need. One. Sentence. At. A. Time. Do you understand this sentence: Do you think there's no correlation between replaceability, perceived value, and motivation to caretake? Or are you instantly lost and could read no further? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/22 10:47 PM |
| 3 | The line between being taken advantage of and taking responsibility is really blurry with women.the men y’all think women should actually go for could very well treat them the same way as the attractive man did. Do you think there's no correlation between replaceability, perceived value, and motivation to caretake? Common denominator here is shitty dudes. ...or do you just not understand words like "correlation" - such that, if I suggest to you that between two groups A and B, members of group A are more likely to exhibit behavior (a) so therefore, if you don't like behavior (a), you shoul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/22 10:21 PM |
| 1 | My girlfriend would've slept with me on first date, if i wasnt boyfriend materialthanks, I appreciate that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/22 01:38 PM |
| 7 | I wrote an anthropological master's thesis on MGTOW / Red pillI’m shocked that didn’t immediately disqualify the thesis | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/22 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Women are never really "alone" the way men areYou can negotiate with anyone. You just don’t have much leverage over some people. That’s not an excuse to get taken advantage of. It’s like if I tell you not to accept an unpaid internship, but to negotiate a salary. You reply “yeah but the company I really really want isn’t going to negotiate” K. But that’s no excuse to jump into a situation where you feel you’re being exploited. Plus, to the extent that a top-tier man isn’t willing to negotiate, his position exists because of all the women wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/22 12:54 PM |
| 7 | Women are never really "alone" the way men arefallacy of the excluded middle. He said being alone (in the way men are, by default) is bad, and in response you ignore the middle ground and jump all the way over to the extreme bad on the women's side. No woman is forced (in the way men are, by default) to accept that situation. All women have to do to avoid being "used" for sex is ...negotiate. It's really not that hard. Slowly escalate your commitment and investment in a person and require that they do the same. By the time you get to sex, h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/22 05:20 AM |
| 0 | The way some women here on PPD describes their S/O is so unflattering and insulting that if they read it they’d break up with them on the spotDo you think that’s relevant here? If your spouse said you’re not attractive but you have a good personality, that would hurt your feelings. And you know this. Everyone knows this. Thus, saying it is intentionally hurtful | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/22 09:54 PM |
| 1 | The way some women here on PPD describes their S/O is so unflattering and insulting that if they read it they’d break up with them on the spotwhen I describe my husband in glowing terms I am accused of c****g, lying, overcompensating, and I'm going to cheat on him. Can you link me to the comment where this happened? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/22 06:01 PM |
| 6 | The way some women here on PPD describes their S/O is so unflattering and insulting that if they read it they’d break up with them on the spotI'm almost six feet tall, which isn't appealing to most men Do you think your husband goes on Reddit and posts comments like “my wife is freakishly tall and not at all attractive but I like her anyway because (some minor thing)” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/22 05:59 PM |
| 0 | Dual Mating Strategy: Why men need to be aware of TRP it's teachings even if they don't agree with it.What's the new information? That's she's not that smart. I explained more here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/t3epjz/dual_mating_strategy_why_men_need_to_be_aware_of/hys5mqw/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/22 05:45 PM |
| 2 | Dual Mating Strategy: Why men need to be aware of TRP it's teachings even if they don't agree with it.there has been no negging in this thread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/22 03:59 PM |
| 4 | Dual Mating Strategy: Why men need to be aware of TRP it's teachings even if they don't agree with it.get negged there has been no negging in this thread. weird hypothetical is dumb It's a thought experiment. Are you unfamiliar with the concept: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_experiment Here's one of my favorites: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Davidson_(philosopher)#Swampman If you take an undergraduate philosophy class and they ask you to read "swampman" and think about it, and all you can muster is "this is weird and dumb" then you're not likely to pass the course. Thought experi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/22 03:55 PM |
| 4 | Dual Mating Strategy: Why men need to be aware of TRP it's teachings even if they don't agree with it.I've been working on a response to the point of view that you bring up here. But, it's not fully formed in my head. I probably need to articulate it a couple of times to work out the kinks and get it right. Do you mind if I use you as my test case? You're a heterosexual woman? Think of a man you'd like to date. Now imagine that a genie or a fortune tell or whatever - someone who can see the future, offers you two possible outcomes: (1) you can be with this man for exactly one year. After a year,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/22 03:00 PM |
| 4 | Dual Mating Strategy: Why men need to be aware of TRP it's teachings even if they don't agree with it.lol yeah, you got me there. I thought you meant when he first started dating her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/22 02:45 PM |
| 51 | Dual Mating Strategy: Why men need to be aware of TRP it's teachings even if they don't agree with it.is that guy not settling for her? No, because this is new information. "Settling" is when you accept something you don't want. He thought he wanted her, but the new information changed it. If you want a gender-flipped version, imagine a woman whose man isn't very generous. She says "meh, I'm okay with that; I still love him." Then she finds out that he lavished past girlfriends with gifts, vacations, etc. That's new information and she might feel a certain way about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/22 02:40 PM |
| 23 | Dual Mating Strategy: Why men need to be aware of TRP it's teachings even if they don't agree with it.they will not want him Some will. He is free to choose one of those. Here's the thing: a 21 year old woman who gets maximum commitment (i.e. marriage) from a 31 year old doctor is smart. She is investing her youth and beauty wisely. The dividends of her investment include a lifetime of wealth and social status. Even if the marriage doesn't work out, she'll be well taken care of with alimony. She's also free to try to get that commitment from the basketball player. It's worth a shot. Sure. But a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/22 02:37 PM |
| 3 | Where does Red Pill stand on consent definition?asking whether you can forgo a condom lol, btw if the answer is that you can forgo the condom ...you definitely need a condom | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/22 02:18 PM |
| 1 | I'm very new to all these pills but red pill seems very convincing. Can women in this sub refute the following claims ?Saying "Nope" does not make it so. I didn't say that saying nope makes it so. "Nope" is the prelude to my argument. having the same distribution of lifetime partner count means that the rates of virginity between men and women. I think you accidentally a word. Anyway, I'll quote the first passage in your link which references a study. If you'd like to discard that reference and talk about a specific study, please let me know: "According to 2011 to 2015 CDC data, women between ages 25 and 44 had … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/22 11:39 AM |
| 2 | Where does Red Pill stand on consent definition?none of you ever asked verbally the other person I'll just point out that human sexuality is far, far older than any human language. Non-verbal consent is NORMAL. It's fine if you want to put a modern cultural construct of verbal consent over the top of it, but just be honest about what you're doing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 10:21 PM |
| 1 | I'm very new to all these pills but red pill seems very convincing. Can women in this sub refute the following claims ?The distribution of lifetime number of partners histogram (eepecially for recent generations when sectioned by age by age) follows the same curve and scale for both men and women. k. Your claim that women fuck a smaller subset of men than men fuck of women is flat out disproven by this. Nope. The first bit of your comment has absolutely no relationship to the second bit. The first bit in no way implies the opposite of (and therefore disproves) the claim. It's trivial to construct a population wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 10:17 PM |
| 1 | I'm very new to all these pills but red pill seems very convincing. Can women in this sub refute the following claims ?The differences in numbers between men and women on sex are pretty minor. Help me understand why you believe that it's relevant to anything in this thread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/22 06:49 PM |
| 1 | Age is an incredibly important and overlooked part of attractiveness/value.I'll make a deal with you: you'll get a meaningful response to your question when you excise the hyperbole. Here, I'll highlight the hyperbole: [women in their early 20’s], with almost zero effort, could tie down a 55 year old You responded to a post about 25 year olds vs 35 year olds - a 10 year difference, and it appears you don't really have a good rebuttal to that. So, in order to make your response, you had to construct a straw man about 20 year olds and 55 year olds - a 35 year difference … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/22 04:34 PM |
| 1 | Age is an incredibly important and overlooked part of attractiveness/value.gender doesn’t reach very far beyond hormonal and physical differences. And you do realize that hormones affect behavior, right? So your statement above could read, "gender causes behavioral and physical differences" - yeah, I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/22 12:55 PM |
| 1 | Age is an incredibly important and overlooked part of attractiveness/value.those gaps are closing in the absence of """"socialization"""" do you think there are any differences between males and females? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/22 08:09 AM |
| 2 | Age is an incredibly important and overlooked part of attractiveness/value.No, "a lot of men here" don't think that. I challenge you to support this claim with links so that I can see what you mean in context ...but I know you wont. You blue pillers never do. I've started keeping a list where I spot a blue piller making an outrageous claim about TRP or about redpillers here in PPD, and I challenge the blue piller to support their claim, and they never do it. "I would appreciate a link" - result: no response "Please link me to it so that I can see it in context" - resul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/22 02:19 AM |
| 3 | Age is an incredibly important and overlooked part of attractiveness/value.you have to accept there will be trade offs. The only group of people who disagree with this are the women who say "never settle" Men are more practical-minded | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/22 01:40 AM |
| 3 | Age is an incredibly important and overlooked part of attractiveness/value.Can I point you to the nice discussions on child support we've been having? Why? How is that relevant to this discussion, which is about attractiveness. The 25 year old is more attractive to more men. That's my claim, and I'm absolutely right. Sure, I will gladly concede that banging the 25 year old is more likely to lead to a child support obligation. But this thread didn't ask, "what is the best way to avoid child support" -this thread asked who is more attractive. And to most men, the 25 year… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/22 12:14 AM |
| 5 | Age is an incredibly important and overlooked part of attractiveness/value.Why are you telling me this Because you posted a CMV and your view is wrong. So, I corrected you. And now, in the face of my argument, are you addressing any of it? Have you quoted a single sentence and said, "I disagree with this sentence for the following reasons" - nope. Here's how you reply: the average age gap between western couples is 2-3 years. This is a bit like if you posted a thread claiming people don't really like ferraris, because more people drive camrys. What people actually driv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/22 12:10 AM |
| 23 | Age is an incredibly important and overlooked part of attractiveness/value.It stems from hope lol no. If I was selling "hope" I'd say things like "just be yourself" and "theres someone for everyone" and "it'll happen when you least expect it." Hypothetically, as a thought experiment, imagine that women only dated men younger than them - most of them just weren't attracted to older men. Okay. How would I respond to that? Well, the rational thing for me to do would be to figure out how to pick up older women. That would be the best chance for me to have success. What I w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/22 11:12 PM |
| 2 | I'm very new to all these pills but red pill seems very convincing. Can women in this sub refute the following claims ?yeah I wasn't trying to nitpick you. Just offering an opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/22 10:09 PM |
| 1 | I'm very new to all these pills but red pill seems very convincing. Can women in this sub refute the following claims ?Women make a lot of weird rules, but they are very quick to break them when the right man comes along who is perfect in every way Just be careful with having a worldview that includes concepts like, "he comes along" vs. something like, "I made a conscious effort and found him." The former is an external locus of control - it's the idea that you just sit back and wait while things happen to you. And as to being "perfect in every way" - part of the problem of being an alpha widow is that nobody th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/22 08:48 PM |
| 1 | I'm very new to all these pills but red pill seems very convincing. Can women in this sub refute the following claims ?What do you base this on? This is my explanation for a phenomenon we've all noticed: women have long lists of requirements for men, and in particular, they have very, very specific requirements. I'm claiming that those requirements come from previous flings and relationships. Lori Gottlieb covers a lot of this in her book, "Marry Him" - in one example she gives, women's lists included things like wearing particular shoes and liking particular books. See how weirdly specific that is?? And check o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/22 07:17 PM |
| 3 | I'm very new to all these pills but red pill seems very convincing. Can women in this sub refute the following claims ?If that theory was true, the richest man in the world wouldn't pick a partner over 30. Your argument here is that there are no stupid rich men? Women get more attractive and more interesting at that age. Not less. What evidence is there for that? I mean, can you even post a picture of a woman who is more attractive at 45 than she was at 35 or 25?? Maybe an actress? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/22 05:07 PM |
| 4 | I'm very new to all these pills but red pill seems very convincing. Can women in this sub refute the following claims ?Tons of men date the "BPD hot chick" and later realize they have to go down the looks scale for the wifey qualities. They'll settle, but they're far less attracted. Well see, here's the thing: if I claim there are alpha widows, I can support that claim with links to women talking about how they aren't in love with their husband because they're still carrying a torch for another guy. https://www.reddit.com/r/confessions/comments/g3ipj7/i_loved_my_ex_boyfriend_more_than_i_love_my/ https://www.redd… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/22 05:03 PM |
| 3 | I'm very new to all these pills but red pill seems very convincing. Can women in this sub refute the following claims ?Isn't this exactly the same for men? The part you're missing here, is that it isn't the past act itself that causes offense, it's the implication it has on your current relationship. Specifically, you're missing that women are hypergamous, while men are polygamous. Hypergamy means focusing only on the top. Polygamy means liking pretty much everything. As /u/bubble_gummmmm and /u/ila1998 pointed out to you (though they didn't use the term, polygamy, they implied it) - men are very happy with what… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/22 02:38 PM |
| -1 | Women who do not get abundance of male attention. Why?I’m sorry. I don’t think you really listed to the point I made. Your reply is like the American saying “no I’m seriously poor! My fridge is empty and I don’t have an iPhone!” My point is that he’s still comparing himself to other Americans. The average human still considers him rich And you’re still comparing yourself to other women. “I don’t get approached” you say. Yeah, most people don’t. Compare yourself to a man and you’ll realize you’re rich, in terms of abundance of attention, iPhone (sor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/22 04:24 PM |
| 2 | Women who do not get abundance of male attention. Why?How can anyone answer this question? How can anyone know what "abundance" means? The answer is that we calibrate our expectations against our experiences and what we observe in our peer group. That's not an objective process. So it's like an American saying, "I'm not rich!" Why do I think I'm not rich? Because I look around and I see rich people and that's my expectation, so compared to that and I'm not rich. But objectively - compared to the majority of humans alive right now - I'm rich as fuck… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/22 11:31 AM |
| 1 | TRP and FDS both seem to really hate men and women, yet they still want the very people they hateI don't know. I imagine if I make an effort to ask blue pillers for citations, I'll get another 100 examples in a month or so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/22 02:48 AM |
| 29 | Question for TRP: What type of man do you consider a "Top" man or High Value Man?Women are the sole authority on what constitutes an attractive man. My opinion on this doesn't matter at all. Thus my answer to your question is: look at what women do. Look at who they have sex with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/22 12:42 AM |
| 2 | TRP and FDS both seem to really hate men and women, yet they still want the very people they hatedeliberately misunderstood or genuinely misunderstood Well, let me put it to you this way, I keep trying to talk to bluepillers and I keep asking them to help me understand their perspectives about TRP by giving me a link, just one fucking link to what they're talking about when they say "zomg TRP triggered me by saying ..." And none of them ever reply. Want to see the receipts? "I would appreciate a link" - result: no response "Please link me to it so that I can see it in context" - result: no … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/22 12:39 AM |
| 1 | Is there something wrong with nice guys and what exactly ?That sounds like appeal to popularity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/22 07:11 PM |
| 0 | Is there something wrong with nice guys and what exactly ?terms change The term hasn't "changed" though. You intentionally picked a term that applied to one thing, and you are using it to demonize a group. Are you aware that racists refer to criminals a "joggers?" Do you accept the excuse, "terms change?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/22 06:19 PM |
| 10 | TRP and FDS both seem to really hate men and women, yet they still want the very people they hateI'm sure that if you actually believed that, you would eagerly quote something I've said and explain how it constitutes anger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/22 05:42 PM |
| 2 | Is there something wrong with nice guys and what exactly ?That's not at all the same thing. Do you have any actual arguments? I claim it's exactly the same thing. An argument would be for you to describe the difference and why that difference invalidates the comparison. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/22 05:42 PM |
| 17 | Is there something wrong with nice guys and what exactly ?Always! The argument is that it's fundamentally dishonest to take a term which has some plain, literal meaning, and use it for a different purpose, and to insist you're not talking about the people who fit the literal meaning. So for example, you say, "no no no, I don't mean nice guy! Of course not!! No, I mean 'Nice Guys' (tm) and that's totally different" What you're doing is no different than a racist who says, "no no no, I don't mean black people! Of course not!! No, I mean 'Black People' - … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/22 05:20 PM |
| 2 | It's too risky for a woman to be with a Red Pilll man.My attempt to change your view is to point out that while you claim this: I just started watching some RP men on YouTube You didn't link to (and I doubt you will link to) any of them saying what you claim they say: you will be dumped turning age 30 I would appreciate a link where they advocating dumping someone when they turn 30. I really would. I'd like to see what these youtubers are actually saying in context. I really doubt they're saying to dump a girlfriend who has been acting right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/22 04:57 PM |
| 6 | Is there something wrong with nice guys and what exactly ?You should really read, Radicalizing the Romanceless | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/22 04:52 PM |
| 4 | TRP and FDS both seem to really hate men and women, yet they still want the very people they hatethe men who do let their bitterness be shown aren't doing themselves a favour. If a woman smells bitterness on you for any reason, it's over. Bitterness is something losers feel. Winners have nothing to be bitter about, and women love winners. You can be forgiven for feeling whatever you're feeling, but women do not want you to show the emotions of a loser. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/22 03:34 PM |
| 5 | TRP and FDS both seem to really hate men and women, yet they still want the very people they hateUntil you grow the fuck up and take responsibility for yourself as a man! I try to have compassion for young men, because they are immersed in a culture that is wholly feminist and blue-pilled. The core message of the blue pill is "the blank slate" and "systemic oppression" - specifically, they believe there's no real difference between men and women (and in the last few years, they've given up even the ability to define those terms). If there's no difference, then there can be no gender-specifi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/22 03:31 PM |
| 17 | TRP and FDS both seem to really hate men and women, yet they still want the very people they hateTRP obviously doesn’t hate women. We talk about an “anger phase” where newbies, just getting over the blue pill may feel that, but established members don’t Compare that to any ideology that objectively hates a group. Did nazis talk about “working to get beyond anger at Jews?” No. Of course not. Does the KKK talk about an anger “phase” or are they just perpetually angry? Does FDS ever talk about getting past their anger? Do peddlers of CRT ever mention moving on? No, in every case where the grou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/22 01:37 PM |
| 14 | Why do we as a society continue to engage in hook up culture and the degeneracy that comes with it, when it leaves most people so empty inside?The same reason we eat unhealthy food even though it leaves us fat and unhappy - because it’s pleasurable in the moment. The same reason we drink to excess even though hangovers suck - it’s pleasurable in the moment Long term health and real, lasting happiness is a spiritual problem and western society, as it moved away from Christianity, “threw out the baby with the bath water” and discarded every concept that even tangentially reminded us of Christianity. Feminists are especially guilty here. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/22 01:05 PM |
| 3 | If af/bb and awalt is true, why isn't redpill mainstream?*sigh* nope. I literally just said that's survivorship bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 05:06 PM |
| 7 | If af/bb and awalt is true, why isn't redpill mainstream?AWALT is the same as 'all men are rapists' I think the proper parallel to AWALT would be, "all men are like rapists" by which I mean that all men have the capacity to rape, and all men (all people, really) harbor the desire to take whatever they want. Good men are unlike rapists in that they have empathy and moral values, and as a result they don't hurt women. But the point of the exercise - the reason that it might be beneficial to a woman to realize the truth that "AMALR" - is that it would le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 05:03 PM |
| 3 | If af/bb and awalt is true, why isn't redpill mainstream?Married men live longer. Isn't that survivor bias? Do you have a source showing that men who ever got married live longer? Because see, marriage is a choice and if a man is deciding to get married and you tell him, "married men live longer" and based on that, he gets married ...and then he gets divorced, and then he becomes depressed, and then he offs himself ...and all you say to that is, "ah yes well, he wasn't married when died so therefore his outcome agreed with my statistic" - then it's a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 04:45 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Women don't even know what they want, they have to be told by society and other women as to what is attractive in menI don't have a source or a study The phenomenon you're describing is called "mate choice copying" - if you're interested in finding sources and studies. I'm not aware that it has ever been observed in the males of any species. It's common in females though. Its opposite has been observed among human males though - that is to say, there's evidence that a man will find a woman more attractive if fewer other men like her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Does a HVM have anything to gain from dating a FDS woman?Yeah, I don't think you even read my post. You certainly didn't respond to it. You characterize my argument as "mental gymnastics" but you offer no argument of your own to support that claim. It's kind of sad. I suspect that your behavior towards people who talk to you online, and your frustration on the dating market, are related. I think that people who behave the way you behave, often have trouble in life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Does a HVM have anything to gain from dating a FDS woman?Would you agree or disagree with the following statement: rich people don't have the kinds of problems that poor people have See, if you want to nitpick that claim, you can say that you disagree with it because sometimes rich people do indeed feel hunger. But if you don't nitpick - if you're willing to engage with the claim in good faith - you'll admit that while a rich man may occasionally "feel hunger" it's not the same as a poor person who has no food. Attractive women don't have the kind of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 04:06 PM |
| 21 | Why do red pillers want to date women when you guys hold such negative views on us?Early in my career someone gave me really good advice - he said, "never allow yourself to believe that the corporation which employs you is your friend." Now, that advice is a bit of a letdown, I have to admit. HR tells me that they're concerned for my wellbeing. I've gotten Christmas cards and bonuses from employers. I've had bosses that would throw big parties for us - once even on a huge yacht. They seem like friends But they're not. Not really. I've also seen coworkers get down in the dumps … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 09:41 PM |
| 5 | What do you believe is holding you back from a successful relationship?The name for the general process is, "post-hoc rationalization" and it's actually pretty common. The real, underlying reason why people treat him badly is that they are subconsciously evaluating his genetic fitness. What we call "ugly" is really just low fitness. Conversely, what we call "beautiful" is the ability to have healthy offspring. But that whole process of evaluation is subconscious. Our conscious mind is not as much in the driver's seat as we like to believe. We make decisions based o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 02:14 PM |
| 3 | "Let women come to you" is the best way to remain sexless your whole life.Because good advice must be generally applicable. For example, if you tell me you have a job interview and ask for advice on what to wear, I will advise you to wear business casual. That's good advice because 99% of employers will respond well to that. That advice works, generally. Now imagine there's a "job-hunt debate" subreddit and you go there and you see some people saying to wear business casual, and some people saying not to. One of those groups is wrong. There's no other way to put it. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/22 10:09 AM |
| 2 | "Let women come to you" is the best way to remain sexless your whole life.It cracks me up that as I type this, your comment and /u/gimpgirl555's comment are right next to each other. I even got a screenshot because the juxtaposition of two women giving the exact opposite advice is just too rich. For the record, I think that women who say that approaching them is "desperate and sketchy" are recalling times when desperate and sketchy men awkwardly approached them. A more skillful approach flies under the radar and registers as "authentic" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/22 09:31 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Too many men view women as a right and not privilege, and that’s a huge problem.You link to evidence and you argue for the veracity of your belief | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/22 11:49 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Too many men view women as a right and not privilege, and that’s a huge problem.Where’s the evidence? Where are the links? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/22 02:02 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Too many men view women as a right and not privilege, and that’s a huge problem.“it should not be this difficult to fuck fat women” I didn’t see that one. Please link me to it so that I can see it in context. While I wait, here’s my attempt to change your view: do you feel the following statement represents entitlement? “In 2022, it should not be this difficult to afford a house” “men should not have to marry a woman over 28” I didn’t see that one. Please link me to it so that I can see it in context. While I wait, here’s my attempt to change your view: do you feel the foll… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/22 11:10 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Too many men view women as a right and not privilege, and that’s a huge problem."women are cunts for not instantly sucking my dick, but also they're sluts if they've ever seen a dick" Do you honestly believe that any man actually holds both those views, let alone just one of them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/22 11:04 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is your main disagreement with the Red Pill?Fair enough. Thank you for going back and finding the discussion so that I could see it in context. I apologize for doubting you. I'd like to ask if you think there's any difference between the way that you remembered it, and what the words there actually say? You remembered it as a man "undermining everything women do" (emphasis yours) and saying, "well, men could do it better" (which I read as very dismissive - like if one person says here's something I'm proud of and the other person just dis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/22 01:16 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: What is your main disagreement with the Red Pill?anytime I bring this up to a rper it's "well men could do it better" I don't believe you've ever actually brought that up to a red piller and been told "well men could do it better" Please prove me wrong by linking to when this happened. You've only used the phrase "special ed" once before in PPD and nobody replied to you. You've used the phrase "teacher" twice in this subreddit and neither time did anyone reply. This comment you just posted is the only time that anyone in PPD has ever used the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/22 11:57 AM |
| 1 | How can you know if the man you are dating is into redpill stuff?Do you think that all relationships are zero-sum? Do you describe the employer/employee relationship this way? Do you show up to work on time? Are you productive? Are you professional? If some jobless kid asked you for advice on getting and keeping a job, would you advice not include, "be punctual, be productive, be professional because employers like that" What if an employer described your advice as you just did in your previous comment. "Pfft!! She's not trying to give employers what they wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/22 02:50 PM |
| – | How can you know if the man you are dating is into redpill stuff?just talk to women as humans the phrase "as humans" in this context means that everyone is unique, and that generalization is either morally wrong or just plain old ineffective. What I'm doing is called "systemizing" and it's a bit more common in men as a way of conceptualizing the world, but more importantly, there's nothing wrong with it. What is wrong is for you to presume, as implied by your comment, that your way of seeing the world is "correct" and mine is not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/22 03:48 AM |
| – | How can you know if the man you are dating is into redpill stuff?You have zero idea on what women want Instead of correcting you on this point, I'm just going to return to my analogy. I imagined a group of women who want to be attractive to me, and in my comment above, these hypothetical women believed that giving me blowjobs is what I want. Well okay, you say I don't know what women want. Let's modify the analogy so that these women don't know what I want. Maybe these women say, "men will be attracted to us if we kick them in the balls." One of these women p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 08:05 PM |
| – | How can you know if the man you are dating is into redpill stuff?they have an unconscious fear of being attracted to a man ...who's not really attractive. Another way I might phrase that is, loss of reproductive agency. In other words, their (again, unconscious) goal is to have the most "fit" children they can, meaning they should mate with the most fit male they can ... "but what if he's faking it??" If I try to imagine this from their perspective, I think it must be similar to the unconscious fear a man feels about being "cucked" - that's a loss of his repr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 07:57 PM |
| 29 | How can you know if the man you are dating is into redpill stuff?It's classic confirmation bias. Any man that approaches her and fumbles it in any way gets filed away in her head as, "faker - probably red pill" She probably does also get approached by naturals, but she also gets approached by men who had to learn game and have become good at it. She has no idea. Besides, the whole point of TRP is (1) let's figure out what women find attractive (2) let's cultivate those attributes in ourselves. TRP is agnostic with regard to the specifics of those attributes. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 03:27 PM |
| 9 | Is "The Tinder Swindler" what happens to women who vastly over estimate thier SMV?I wasn't familiar with this "Tinder Swindler" but I found this summary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxO2coHGIlk My first reaction is to note that when these women get scammed, they are also having sex with he guy. Yeah, men are stupid and get scammed all the time, but I don't know if you can point to a case where a beautiful woman actually bangs a guy and then asks for money from him. So, this first girl mentioned in the video: he flies her out of Bulgaria and bangs the shit out of her, then… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 03:17 PM |
| 3 | Is "The Tinder Swindler" what happens to women who vastly over estimate thier SMV?vastly over estimate thier SMV? I mean, your SMV is by definition the most attractive person who will bang you. Women's SMV is ...pretty high, generally. The reason it's so high is that male libido is high. That said, I do believe that women are often in denial about how their SMV changes as they age. It's always lower at 30 than it was at 20. Sure, you can point to beautiful 30 or even 40 year old women, but those women too were more attractive a 20. And you can say, "men get old too!!" and yes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 03:04 PM |
| 26 | "Happily Married" woman still reminiscing Chad from decade agoa soft boundary, FDB what this mean? | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 04/02/22 12:04 PM |
| 1 | Does a HVM have anything to gain from dating a FDS woman?Do you think that because you are attractive a man will change his ways and buy a bed frame No, I do not. I think that if she was hotter, she'd be dating better men, not that the men themselves would change. I think you can tell before you get back to his house (or more likely, the room he's renting) whether he's going to have a nice place or a mattress on the floor. She went home with mattress guy because that was her only option. That's what I think. And BTW, I'll say the same thing to men too… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/22 07:06 PM |
| 2 | Does a HVM have anything to gain from dating a FDS woman?Just because she is pretty doesn’t mean she won’t endure abuse. Are we talking about abuse?? I thought we were talking about the complaints of the women on FDS. I've seen FDS threads asking why men sleep on bare mattresses, with no sheets. I've seen FDS threads about men not remembering their name while on a date with them. I'm talking about a woman being in a situation where she repeatedly encounters that sort of thing from a man. Attractive women don't have those kinds of problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/22 06:48 PM |
| 0 | Women who think men don’t look at them as “people” misunderstand male sexual attractionI honestly don't feel many men's "commitment" these days is a measure of that woman's value either. To be more clear, the best guy who will commit to her is her "level" Yes, I'm sure she also gets marriage offers from men in trailer parks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/22 06:43 PM |
| 3 | Women who think men don’t look at them as “people” misunderstand male sexual attractionWhat does that have to do with anything I said? It's a response to the bit I quoted. You used the term "hang around" and I expanded that into "like" (meaning, he will hang around) vs. "value" (meaning, he will do more than hang around) It doesn’t matter whether someone values or likes you. k. Let me know how that works out for you. I don’t show I value men by having sex with them The context of "value" in this discussion is with regard to human sexuality. I'm sorry if that wasn't clear. I'm well… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/22 05:36 PM |
| 3 | Does a HVM have anything to gain from dating a FDS woman?Sure. It's like saying that rich people also have car trouble. I mean, it's technically true, but if someone is constantly complaining, "my car is a POS and has broken down 3 times this month" ...then you're proooooooobably not talking to a rich dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/22 05:27 PM |
| 11 | Women who think men don’t look at them as “people” misunderstand male sexual attractiononly hang around because of my ass or body. Note that there's a difference between liking a thing and valuing a thing. I really like pizza, but the value is only a couple of bucks per slice. Why? Because pizza is everywhere. I can get pizza easily. As a woman, most men are going to like you. But if you find that a man doesn't value you, then consider the possibility that, to him, you're like pizza: tasty, but easily obtained. I'm sure you're aware that the indicator of a woman's value isn't the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/22 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Does a HVM have anything to gain from dating a FDS woman?What is our nature? "We are conscious of the animal in us, which awakens in proportion as our higher nature slumbers. It is reptile and sensual, and perhaps cannot be wholly expelled; like the worms which, even in life and health, occupy our bodies." - Henry David Thoreau We're animals. That's our base nature. In the absence of anything else (like discipline or values) we will pursue our needs, as communicated to us via feelings, with the disinhibited directness of a dog sniffing a butt. There a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/22 03:17 PM |
| 13 | Does a HVM have anything to gain from dating a FDS woman?there have always been guys trying to deliver. Attractive women don't have the kind of problems that FDS talks about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/22 02:49 PM |
| 11 | Does a HVM have anything to gain from dating a FDS woman?It’s like a cult over there. You know how cults like to tell you that you can only associate with other members of the cult, and you have cut everyone else out of your life? Yeah. https://i.imgur.com/pWTXsub.png | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/22 02:28 PM |
| 2 | Men need to stop trying to put promiscuous women in their place. The SMP and the world already tells them exactly what their value is.it's not men's job to "keep the market in check" Please link me to one or two examples that you feel constitute men "keeping the market in check" - I'd like to see what you're talking about in context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 07:26 PM |
| 11 | What are the signs and behavior of a "post wall" woman?Desperation and bitterness I think this gets to the core of it. The biggest problem that I have dating older women is that they just don't seem happy. I don't mean happy with me - I mean that I just don't see them finding joy in their lives, and that's a turn-off. Or maybe not a "turn off" - maybe it's more accurate to say that happiness in a woman is a turn-on. Anyway, if you don't know what I mean, here's an experiment you can do: make a habit of asking people to tell you a specific story of s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 12:20 PM |
| 1 | Do most men actually want to be with a traditional woman?all I see is Can you be specific about where you’re seeing this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 10:23 AM |
| 0 | Blue pill advise does not help men whatsoeverThe modern blue pill Are there websites or subreddits that represent this view? The blue pill subreddit exists purely to mock TRP, so I don’t think that’s what you’re talking about | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/22 12:37 PM |
| 9 | Does anyone know why there's a disconnect between OLD apps and real-life couples?Where is the disconnect im seeing? It’s between the SMP and the RMP The couples you’re seeing are couples | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/22 03:21 PM |
| 4 | Your opinions: Men using their vulnerability as a sh*t test?I’m sorry that you’re so unhappy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/22 02:59 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men who have sex, please share your story of successful IRL approachesI was at an art festival and a guy had a table with oak tree saplings. He was giving them away. Later, as I was walking back to my car I swung by the table and saw there was just one left, ask him if I can have it; he hands it to me. I hear a sigh and turn around. The girl behind me had wanted the tree and I just got the last one. So, I hold it up high and pretend like I'm keeping it away from her. She immediately plays along, pretending to try to grab it - and here I'll say that as a general pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 03:16 PM |
| 8 | Q4Men who have sex, please share your story of successful IRL approachesTreat women like people. The most useless advice ever. Included on the list of "how people are treated" are things like slavery. What exactly do you think you're correcting when you say "treat women like people?" Do you think you're talking to some autist who was going around shouting computer code at women? And he's going to hear your advice and think, "oh! I should treat them like people! Now I get it!" Hey, I'm interested in becoming a pilot. What should I do? Treat airplanes like machines, b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 02:55 PM |
| 2 | How Come PUA's Are Getting So Much Flack Now Whereas Earlier They Were Ok?Gaming those heuristics so as to appear to be what you are not That’s a general and somewhat vague statement. Please give a specific hypothetical so that I can understand what you mean. I’ll try to offer one and you can tell me if I’m right: a man rents an expensive car so that a woman believes he’s rich. After having sex with her, he reveals that it’s not his car and he’s not actually rich Is that what you’re alluding to? My response is to ask you to cite an example of someone suggesting that t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 02:38 PM |
| 2 | Which studies/research prove Pill philosophies and which studies debunk them?Proof? I’ve literally never heard anyone say this. I'm constantly asking blue pillers in this subreddit to provide links to things they claim TRP believes. They never reply. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/22 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Are women really more shallow than men, or do they just get called out more for it?” Tits, ass and a good waist/hip ratio!" will be met with sympathetic, "Boys will be boys!" Can you please link to an example of this so that I can see what’s being said in context? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/22 12:33 PM |
| 22 | New article finds that apps like Bumble have women feeling dismissed and dejectedI'll just quote Helena from A Midsummer Night's Dream: We cannot fight for love as men may do. We should be wooed and were not made to woo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 01:28 PM |
| – | Which studies/research prove Pill philosophies and which studies debunk them?I've also seen them make the claim I mention. Please link to an example so that you can see it in context | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/22 10:32 PM |
| 6 | When is explicit(verbal) consent ever given by women for initial intimacy(touching and kissing). Is this practiced in reality?I have found No, you really haven't. You have no systematic basis for "finding" such a thing. (a) You have no way to replay an interaction and try something different and see how it would go. (b) You have no non-biased way of deciding which method (verbal or non-verbal) you're going to try. It's entirely possible that in each case where you were successful, after using verbal consent, you would have also been successful after (competent) non-verbal consent. You're probably biased in how you choo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/22 11:37 AM |
| 7 | CMV: Male sexual market value (SMV) and male relationship market value (RMV) are roughly similar, but a significant gap exists between female SMV and female RMV.There are women who And there are men who... We can't have a discussion about anything if we're going to constantly point to exceptions. So let's break the analogy for a moment and talk about something concrete: I want you to imagine a typical, average woman. She's 20 years old. Do you disagree that most men are willing to have sex with her? Picture the most attractive man who is willing to have sex with her. How attractive is he (even though she is average)? Is he an 8? I think that's a reasona… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 05:08 PM |
| 11 | CMV: Male sexual market value (SMV) and male relationship market value (RMV) are roughly similar, but a significant gap exists between female SMV and female RMV.That's all well and good unless and until you desire to enter into a relationship where the expectation is that you'll only "eat" one food forever ...and it turns out that your years of free steak leave you dissatisfied with the food you're able to marry. Worse (for women), the gravy train (no pun intended) of free food actually does run out. Almost all young women are attractive to almost all men. So it seems rational for them to bang hot guys. Fine with me - your body your choice. But a decade… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Men are upset about being "boyfriend material" because it offers the same amount of validation that seeing a prostitute doesCan you cite examples of those things being said so that I can see what this person means in context? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/22 10:41 PM |
| 9 | Men are upset about being "boyfriend material" because it offers the same amount of validation that seeing a prostitute doeswhere the fuck have you seen this stated In all the years I've been posting on PPD, I'm certain I've asked blue pillers a hundred for an example or a citation. I have never, ever gotten one. Sometimes I scroll back through my post history and collect them up: it should be easy for you to link one - result: no links provided Why do you think it's even remotely acceptable, in a debate sub, for you to make a claim like that without two or three links to support it? - result: no links provided find … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/22 07:17 PM |
| 4 | One More Condom in the LandfillA “nice guy” who is making nice all the time isn’t attractive I think this is one of those situations where you're just making up a definition with a lot of baggage attached to it. It's "argument by altered definition" and it's frankly dishonest. So let's back up for a minute. The first link in my OP is about a woman who told her boyfriend that he was attractive. You can put as many air quotes around """"nice guy"""" as you like, and you can insinuate whatever baggage you want to insinuate about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/22 04:16 AM |
| 1 | One More Condom in the LandfillIf all men got together and decided to actually be nice(that's what I think you really mean by meek, quiet and submissive) the guys who abuse the system and betray all the other guys would get punished very harshly. not by women, they're not! That's generally how it has gone, when one guy is figuratively hogging all the women, the rest of the guys get together and either kill him or seriously punish him and then establish rules that benefit them. Well, I have a few things to say in response to t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/22 02:24 AM |
| 5 | One More Condom in the Landfilllol. exactly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 11:01 PM |
| 2 | One More Condom in the Landfillmeh. I thought you were being sarcastic but it sounds like we agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 10:35 PM |
| 5 | One More Condom in the LandfillIn the previous comment, I pointed out that you have a problem where you don't listen to what people are actually saying. Here again: what is so hard about waiting a few dates? this is you not listening. Nobody said it was "hard waiting a few dates" This is a thread about a very specific behavior that some women exhibit. Some women will outright tell a guy, "I have sex with men who aren't boyfriend material, but I want to wait to have sex with you" - nothing about this is "hard." The topic isn't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 10:28 PM |
| 6 | One More Condom in the LandfillIt's is astoundingly rich that you are attempting to claim that violent men get women because men are taught that being violent gets women. I just don't know any other way to describe it other than astounding. If women all got together and collectively decided that henceforth meek, quiet, submissive men would get all the sex, then men would do their best to be meek, quiet, and submissive. However, if men got together and collectively decided to be meek, quiet, and submissive, then most men who g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 10:22 PM |
| 8 | One More Condom in the LandfillIs that really all you guys want? No, of course not. No more than if you're looking for a good-paying job, that means "money is all you want." When people prioritize things, it doesn't mean that's the only thing they want. This is a problem with the way you read and listen to people. There's no legitimate reason for you to hear someone say "I desire X" and for you to reply, "this is depressing that X is all you want" - there's no reason for that at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 10:16 PM |
| 2 | One More Condom in the LandfillThat seems unusual. Are you in a culture or a religion where that’s the norm? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 06:25 PM |
| 6 | One More Condom in the LandfillI would actually rather date the latter The only pertinent question is if you have ever in your life thought to yourself, "I am not going to have sex with this man because he is boyfriend material" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 06:07 PM |
| 9 | One More Condom in the Landfillthey know what actually works on them Maybe. But a lot of times it's like thinking you know about marketing because you bought a product. You think you know which ad worked and you think you know why, but you might not actually know it. Or thinking you know how to make a good movie because you've liked movies. We don't necessarily understand why something that we experienced affected us the way it did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 06:04 PM |
| 3 | My girlfriend would've slept with me on first date, if i wasnt boyfriend materialIf you can’t deliver that sure, you may need to exchange something else to get it. Okay, but how does that relate to women having sex with men they don't want as boyfriends, but not having sex with men they do? Based on your statement, they should have sex with the "boyfriend material" men and then filter based on how well he fucked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 05:43 PM |
| 6 | One More Condom in the LandfillConfident nice guys get laid just as much as “bad boys”. [citation needed] If you’re a man who is a autistic doormat, trying to LARP as a bad boy isn’t going to help you. You seem to be in the wrong thread because nothing in my post contradicts that. Here, I'll repeat it for you: this man we're talking about is attractive to this woman. The woman we're talking about is willing to have sex with him but she doesn't have sex, because (in her own words) he is "boyfriend material" So again, we aren't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 04:56 PM |
| 18 | One More Condom in the Landfillyou think that "turning into a bad boy" is going to get you sex Nope. Please read the post very carefully. This man we're talking about here is attractive such that the woman is willing to have sex with him but she doesn't because he's "boyfriend material." By her own admission, she would have sex with him (based on him being attractive) if he was not "boyfriend material". That's the topic of this discussion. So yes, in that specific, narrowly defined case, not being boyfriend material does inde… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 04:50 PM |
| 8 | My girlfriend would've slept with me on first date, if i wasnt boyfriend materialDo you have any response to anything I explained above? It doesn't seem like you do. The comparison I made between a tree and a ship is perfectly valid for the reason I raised it. If you reply telling me things you don't like about ships, that is equal parts dishonest and not getting it. My comparison stands. You have not negated it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 03:25 PM |
| 11 | My girlfriend would've slept with me on first date, if i wasnt boyfriend materialYou can compare any two things. The person making the comparison has the privilege of choosing the aspects being compared. If you point out different aspects, you aren't invalidating the comparison that was made, you're just being dishonest. Imagine we're walking on a beach and we observe something like this. You remark that the tree must way hundreds of tons and you ask why it didn't sink to the bottom of the ocean. I explain that despite its weight, it displaces water that weighs even more. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 03:21 PM |
| 9 | My girlfriend would've slept with me on first date, if i wasnt boyfriend materialNotice that this narrative: burdensome is baggage that you bring into the conversation, not me. Here's what's really going on here with you and this conversation: you just read an accurate, truthful representation of how the world works, and you find it less compelling than the Blue Pill lie you are clinging to. It's no different than someone learning that Santa doesn't exist and then concluding, "well what's the point of Christmas if I have the burden of buying presents??" It's no different tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 03:06 PM |
| 14 | My girlfriend would've slept with me on first date, if i wasnt boyfriend materiallol! No relationship is an exchange of identical things. Are you employed? Then the thing of value your employer offers you is a paycheck, but the thing of value you give to your employer is your productivity. Ever been to a grocery store? The thing of value you bring to that relationship is money, but the thing of value the grocer brings is food. In either case, if your response is to pretend, as you did above, that this means the thing you bring has less value, then you're just not understandi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 02:18 PM |
| 20 | My girlfriend would've slept with me on first date, if i wasnt boyfriend materialNo in both cases because sex is not the thing of value that men give to women, commitment (which means exclusively, protection, and resources) is. Remember that whenever you flip the gender of one of these concepts, you also have to flip the gender role. So the flipped version of this is: “this girl has sex potential therefore I’m not going show any commitment (not going to pay for dinner, for example), but this other girl isn’t someone I want sex with therefore I will happily pay for dinner and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 01:59 PM |
| 4 | Men are blamed for everythingmen aren't earning a lot "Men are to blame for women not getting married and starting families." I don’t feel like looking it up but there were articles titled “there aren’t enough economically attractive men for women to date!” That’s the narrative when women earn more: women are the victims. And of course when men earn more women are definitely the victims. That’s called a “pay gap” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/22 09:26 PM |
| 1 | What is the difference between a ‘soft harem’ and cheating?Is "soft harem" the same as RP "plates"? Well, there’s nobody out there enforcing how these terms are used, and they’re somewhat ill defined so it’s hard to know for sure what exactly a given comment means without seeing it in context or asking for clarification. But to me, “harem” implies sex while “spinning plates” implies only talking to women, trying to date them, etc You have to understand that for many men, they get so few matches, so little reciprocal attention from women, that their tend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/22 11:32 AM |
| 1 | What is the difference between a ‘soft harem’ and cheating?It has been explained to me Please link me to where it was explained to you. I’d like to see the full explanation in context | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/22 11:18 AM |
| 15 | Hinge experiment analysis. Are men on dating apps really as bad as what women describe?Maybe this: The quality of males on Hinge was definitely good. I don't understand how some women are on about creepy/bathroom selfie males. Is related to this: I was an early 20s university student I don’t know that it’s related, but it’s something you could test by repeating the experiment with a woman in a less desirable cohort; say mid to late 30s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/22 11:16 AM |
| 1 | Do men get any legal rights or benefits with legal marriage, that they couldn’t get without legal marriage?It’s an institution created by men. ...for women, yes. Men create things to benefit women. You know, if a woman ever invented something that benefited men (crazy idea, right?) you would still be allowed to criticize it. And when you criticize this hypothetical thing, pointing out that your sex organs are similar to the inventor ...isn't really a valid response. It is a typical response though. Oh, so typical. Ya'll always find a way to dismiss things that men want to talk about. Could be suicide… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/22 10:22 PM |
| 11 | Women who complain about men watching porn have the same argument as men complaining about average women fucking top-tier menWell said. It’s astounding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/22 12:25 AM |
| 3 | Women who complain about men watching porn have the same argument as men complaining about average women fucking top-tier menI wonder if you’re conscious of the fact that you broke your own comparison. I mean, I’m not even disagreeing with you. It’s just fascinating to me that you stated it then broke it. Is chad also suffering from ED? No. Chad is analogous to porn. Porn causes ED, it doesn’t get ED Men get ED. Men are analogous to women (in this discussion) So your comment should have said “do women get ED (or whatever the equivalent is) from the CC as men get ED from porn?” It’s so weird to me that you messed that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/22 12:23 AM |
| – | If you wouldn't commit to a woman that had a high n-count, you cannot complain when women "withold" sex before commitment.When u/Autonate points out that it’s insulting he’s relating a very specific scenario and this: The emotional consequences of that incident for me were so bad that it took me YEARS to "get over it". ain’t it. Do you not understand this? Ask men how they would feel about a woman who says “I did things in the past that I’m ashamed of - these were huge mistakes that I truly regret and also take full responsibility for - I openly and earnestly advise young women not to behave the way I did - see, he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 02:04 AM |
| 1 | As a man, is rejection just frustrating OR a bit deeper than that, more existential, when the subject of your love and adoration chooses another man over youRejection from someone you have no feelings for doesn’t even register oh the radar. The trick for men is not getting feelings/entertaining fantasies about women you don’t really know. And the one thing women should know that I think would really help them is: men don’t “catch feelings” after sex. We might stop liking a girl because she was annoying or our stupid fantasy just collapsed, but you’ll not find a guy who truly had no feelings but just wanted sex, got sex, then got feelings (and keep i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 05:56 PM |
| 18 | Your opinions: Men using their vulnerability as a sh*t test?you have one Yes. That’s called “an example” which is why the comment you replied to uses the phrase “an example” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 01:18 AM |
| 24 | Your opinions: Men using their vulnerability as a sh*t test?said she spent two years (!) building that dude up Two years of dating, after which they trust each other. That's not a bad thing. That's healthy. There's nothing even a tiny little bit wrong with two people taking it slow and building up trust. But as is typical of an FDSer, you look for a reason to pathologize normal, healthy relationships. You do this in order to excuse your own failures. he dresses well (?!?!) and has good hygiene (!!!!!!!!!!!) now because of her. You'll have to ask her prec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 08:32 PM |
| 81 | Your opinions: Men using their vulnerability as a sh*t test?I have an example saved from this very subreddit of exactly what you're talking about: a lot of them cloak their feelings of disgust in terms like "trauma dumping" or "emotional labor". Here it is /u/Technical_Block1172 says that her husband had trust issues stemming from past relationships (i.e. vulnerability) and that she helped him overcome them. /u/GoldandGlowing (an FDSer, btw) sarcastically characterizes this help as "free therapy to build him into a non-woman hating bf" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 02:35 PM |
| 10 | Study on Sexually and Romantically Unsuccessful Men “Linked to Local Mating Ecology”incel-ism stems from social awkwardness Do you believe there’s any difference between the libidos of men and women? Because any difference, in a society that tolerates promiscuity, results in some members of the high-libido group being unable to find partners, no matter their social skills (and assuming a close gender balance) It’s just like how a gender imbalance, in a society that enforces monogamy, results in some members of the majority gender being unable to find a partner, no matter how go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 11:26 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: Why do you want a relationship?I wish men would acknowledge that this level of feedback is a serious advantage for them. like I just did? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 07:19 PM |
| 0 | Q4M: Why do you want a relationship?Do you genuinely mean my degree makes me unfeminune? No, it's orthogonal to femininity. It's similar (in the way it's perceived by the opposite sex) to men playing video games. And my point in this conversation is that it's odd when women who are trying to attract men put it on their dating resume. Is a man who plays video games necessarily unmasculine? Well, no. But playing video games is not masculine. Do you get the difference between "this isn't X" and "this makes you not X" Imagine a world … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 05:08 PM |
| 0 | Q4M: Why do you want a relationship?the core of it seems to be the desire to have sex. That's a bit like criticizing someone who's lonely and wants to make friends by saying, "you're just trying to solve this 'loneliness' problem, you don't really care about friends" The truth is that all relationships are exchanges of value, and there's nothing inherently wrong with that. TRP isn't about "what women want and committing to it". It's about "how get more casual sex". As opposed to what? Seriously, give me the counter example. lots o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Why do you want a relationship?If men were so fixated on bringing a woman to orgasm, they would actually try to do it. Who says men aren't trying (as opposed to simply not succeeding)? I'm sure I could find an article along the lines of, "here's the proper way to suck dick" - but that doesn't mean women aren't trying to suck dick. Loving women is loving things about women and wanting to be around them for their intrinsic qualities. I challenge you to make this point by telling us all of your love for men. Seriously, I want to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 04:02 PM |
| 4 | Q4M: Why do you want a relationship?There used to be a word people used. That word was “helpmeet” - I imagine you’ll have to look it up, because it’s no longer a part of our culture. But suffice to say, a couple forming a team to create a family is a beautiful thing. I’m sorry that when men here point out (I don’t care about her degree) that they don’t go further and explain to you what they do care about It’s also a bit weird that when you encountered one of these comments you didn’t just reply and ask, but okay. I’ll actually go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 02:56 AM |
| – | Most guys on here view women as obstacles to their own 🐱It is literally beyond me how poorly women are viewed here. I’m sorry that you’re seeing this so often that it has troubled you. Please link me to one or two examples of what you’re talking about so that I can see what these men are saying in context | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 02:18 AM |
| – | Those Who Complain About OnlyFan/Instathots... What Would You Actually Like Them To Do Instead?Ie "She keeps posting pictures of herself, talk about WANTING VALIDATION!" ... said while going through and LOOKING at every one of those pictures... please for the love of god show me one example of this Im serious. You posted this thread about a particular type of male. Please show me an example so that I can see what he’s talking about in context | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 02:14 AM |
| 3 | How can men fix online dating? Issues from a woman's point of viewunless you have a Gallup poll or scientific study proving that women go for assholes do you have a gallup poll showing that peahens mate with peacocks. Or were you just absent the day they taught evolution in school? why is incentive a valid excuse? Why do *I* need an excuse? I haven't done anything wrong! When I explain to you how something works, that's not an """excuse""" it's just a fact. A mature adult who respects others does not do those things despite incentive. This is classic blue pill… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 11:42 PM |
| 25 | Young red pill philosophers and young men in general, should be wary of older red pill philosophersI think you're subtly misrepresenting this: thinking its sunshines and roses once you're at your 'peak' age and earning big bucks. What I hear older men saying is that IF you reach your 30s and are: in good shape (because you have the discipline to work out) have your career on track (because you have the discipline to work hard) ...then your experiences in dating will be less frustrating. But note that "less frustrating" is not a promise of "sunshine and roses" - it's just saying that if you're… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 01:32 PM |
| 19 | How can men fix online dating? Issues from a woman's point of viewThis is a supply & demand issue. Slightly different from that: it's an issue of incentives. As you pointed out, average men are increasingly walking away because there are no incentives for them. OP asks men to fix this? lol. Hey OP, here's an idea that will blow your mind: you get more of what you incentivize A woman complaining about the behavior of men in general is as ridiculous as a peahen complaining that peacocks have giant fan tails. Guess what, they have those tails because you mate wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 12:42 PM |
| 2 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities arethey're more likely to attack the moral integrity of their interlocutor I mean look at the conversation you’re having right now! You: here’s what I like and why Her: NO! YOU JUST WANT A SLAVE WHO ALWAYS SAYS YES! You’re intimidated because you’re not strong enough to handle me! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Surely it's men who need to lower their standards?Social media in general. Ari Shaffir has a great rant about it on Joe Rogan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVRN2vxxJro | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 12:35 PM |
| 3 | Surely it's men who need to lower their standards?too many There is such a thing as having too many choices. The result is that it decreases your happiness with whatever you do eventually pick. The phenomenon, in psychology, is called The Paradox of Choice. However, the way male sexuality works is that you're unlikely to be less happy with 5 girls in rotation than you would be with just one - at least, one in a casual relationship. And if you're the type who wants an LTR, 5 is still too few for the paradox of choice to kick in. Women, on the ot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 09:14 PM |
| 8 | Surely it's men who need to lower their standards?If a woman fits their standard, she wouldn't be one of the plates to spin. Have you disagree with you there. The truth is, if you can get one girl, you can get another just like her. And yeah, quite obviously this applies to women too, both for sex (the low-hanging fruit) and for LTRs. A girl who can get a guy at a particular level who wants to marry her, can also get another guy just like him. The thing that OP doesn't seem to understand is that men's challenges and women's challenges are vastl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 03:54 PM |
| 2 | What's the equilibrium point on male sexlessness?Women know what the deal is. Do you think simps know what the deal is? I don't. That guy in that screenshot I posted was honestly so naive as to think that streamer was single and he had a shot with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 02:15 PM |
| 6 | What's the equilibrium point on male sexlessness?Yeah. The weird thing with Tinder is the perception that you have access to very attractive men. It's the exact same trap that men are falling for with OnlyFans. This guy really believed that he had "access" to this streamer, but actually it was a one way relationship. He gave to her and got nothing but a fantasy in return. Tinder seems to be the same thing for a lot of women. And what I just said is true, by the way, even if you can point to examples of streamers dating men that started off as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 04:04 AM |
| 5 | What's the equilibrium point on male sexlessness?oh yeah, they've had relationships of various types, and they've been on "tinder dates" - they've just never had a guy plan anything other than meeting up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 03:10 AM |
| 4 | What's the equilibrium point on male sexlessness?never been married I keep meeting women in their late 20s who claim they've never even been on a date! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 02:32 AM |
| 10 | CMV: The Redpill takes a lot of flak for being "misogynistic" ideology, but it views women in the better light than most modern women see men.The ideology is BS though. Can a guy improve? Sure. Can most men transform themselves into the guys a significant portion of attractive women want to fuck? No. This is like saying, "/r/personalfinance is BS. Can a person invest? Sure. Can most people become billionaires? No." See, /r/personalfinance isn't claiming you'll become a billionaire, any more than TRP is claiming you's become a top-tier man. But you can improve yourself. Here's me making that point in the sub | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/22 01:41 PM |
| 2 | Women in a nutshellmy grandmother’s mother was born a slave Irrelevant. My point stands. I literally said that slaves were the exception so replying, "slavery!" is just further conceding that I'm right and you're wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 06:41 PM |
| 5 | Women in a nutshell…you damn sure better come with a song, a poem, a ceremony, or some promise of a sliver of a happy life. Note that you just conceded the point to me. You started off claiming that "no one gave a shit" and now you're conceding that yes, women did have to be convinced, which means people did give a shit what they thought. trying to convince an adult of sound mind to give up their family name and identity That's the feminist narrative. Another narrative is that a healthy family is one where the par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 06:40 PM |
| 24 | Women in a nutshellThose men must be (insert bad intentions). That is unironically what a lot of reddit thinks. Out in the real world, I am friendly and talk to people all the time, and I can count on one hand the number of times I've been completely shot down like "don't talk to me" - so, real women generally enjoy social interactions and it's okay to talk to them if you're polite. But when considering the idea of """approach""" it seems that women recall bad, awkward, uncomfortable, even scary situations they've… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 12:46 PM |
| 13 | Women in a nutshellFor centuries no one gave a shit if a woman didn’t feel compatible or in love with her husband. Then why was so much culture centered around: admiring women venerating women wooing women commemorating women Why all the songs about loving women? Why all the verse? Why the cliches like "happy wife; happy life?" Why invent ceremonies? Why have the concept of ceremonial love? Why invent chivalry? Why have traditions like opening doors or standing when the lady stands? What possible function does any… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 12:26 PM |
| 35 | Men need to stop explaining themselves to women on forums like this and expecting any sort of validation.I do so to help younger men understand that they are not alone. A worthy goal! Good on you, and thank you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 01:44 PM |
| -1 | How do red pill philosophers/members view no-fault laws in regards to divorces?I didn't. I deduced it. If I'm wrong feel free to clarify. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 12:05 AM |
| -1 | How do red pill philosophers/members view no-fault laws in regards to divorces?I'm sure you imagine that your comment is some clever and biting sarcasm. I'm sure you were very proud of it when you hit the save button. The problem is, you are satirizing your position as though it's the other side's position. See, the idea that the group identity of the majority of people in power (that is to say, the sex of judges and politicians) necessarily means the interests of that group at large will be addressed, is your position, not mine, and not anybody on the right. That's your p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/21 11:36 PM |
| 1 | CMV: as long as women hold views like these regarding male virginity, you cannot act like male promiscuity is equivalent to female promiscuity.The only time virginity is an undesirable trait in a woman is when the guy is looking for a quick fuck and realises she won't be easy. I don’t think she’d be “undesirable” even in that case. It might be in the back of his mind that there’s a lower chance of banging her but he’ll (subconsciously) balance that against the ego boost he thinks he’d get by taking her v-card. Consider two scenarios and imagine them as either gender: Scenario 1: you’re at a party and someone catches your eye. You ask o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 09:29 AM |
| 1 | Personality Type & Risk Of Being Perpetually SingleTo clarify, it’s not true that men don’t like those traits. Your preferences are more common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/21 08:14 AM |
| 2 | Personality Type & Risk Of Being Perpetually SingleNo, it’s not true for most guys, including “”chads”” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/21 12:41 AM |
| 2 | Is FemaleDatingStrategy, ironically, conservative?I didn’t pay much attention to RPW but from what I remember a common question was along the lines of, “how can I help my man step into his role” - that is to say, these were women who had a man and loved him and were supporting him as he became better. A stark contrast to what I see in FDS. They are alone and whining that men aren’t good enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/21 11:23 AM |
| 1 | Is FemaleDatingStrategy, ironically, conservative?This blew my mind | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/21 11:16 AM |
| 2 | What are the lesser known struggle dating as a woman?if you’re below average, those assets don’t seem to matter much to men. I'm disappointed that you didn't bother to give any specifics. But, I'll offer what I hope is a helpful perspective: I presume there are aspects of masculinity that you find attractive in a long-term partner. For example, you likely value confidence, assertiveness, and competence. And you're wise to value those things. It'd be difficult to have a boyfriend who didn't stand up for himself, or wasn't able to fix things or solv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/21 01:13 AM |
| 3 | What are the lesser known struggle dating as a woman?No I meant like, I did X and Y and he still didn’t like me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 10:54 PM |
| 4 | What are the lesser known struggle dating as a woman?In my experience And what experience is that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 10:19 PM |
| 32 | What are the lesser known struggle dating as a woman?women don't generally get the option of "making up for their looks in other areas." I see women making this point occasionally and there's something about it that always amazes me. Consider the "other areas" examples that you listed: her talents accomplishments And consider the "other areas" examples that /u/livs4drpepper listed: funny I have a job I am passionate about I have hobbies In all my life, I have never heard a woman make this point and then give examples that add up to femininity. I'v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 06:45 PM |
| 1 | How do you feel about men who “upgrade” to better girlfriends once they become successful and leave the old one?I was reliably informed by ppd women that younger women are not more attractive than older women. I was told this once here in this subreddit (feel free to offer this as an example to the person who didn't believe it happens): https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ng9j9r/you_shouldnt_spend_any_money_on_a_girl_before/gzae2xl/ The blue piller said that TRP only goes after 20 year olds because our "tactics" don't work on 30 years. This is implying that age is not a factor in women's at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/21 01:47 PM |
| 2 | Gender professor claims men can never truly "Like" woman. Do you Agree?not inherently liking woman but also desiring them and sexually pursuing them Yes, totally. That's why Shakespeare famously wrote: "shall I compare thee to a summer's day even though I don't like thee? Thou art more lovely and more temperate but not really; I'm lying" And Edgar Allan Poe wrote: "we loved with a love that was more than love, I and my Annabel Lee ...but actually my love was socially constructed and not real - that the winged seraphs of heaven coveted, her and me by which I mean he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/21 01:38 PM |
| 0 | Ladies, what is your max age gap and why?men more towards late 20s - 30. yeah, I used to be told I had a "baby face" in my 20s and I'd just cringe. I dated plenty but it was clear this was not a look that women really liked. Got a little older and have, I guess, grown into it, and I definitely get a better reaction now, even from younger girls. And of course, some of it is that I act different now, post TRP, and I dress better, and having blue eyes seems to help. But my point is, I have never met a woman, or even seen pictures of one w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Where does this hate for TRP come from?I would lose a lot of respect from my coworkers. Maybe. But you’d keep your job. If you publicly disparage women people will say “I don’t feel safe” and you’ll lose your job. Remember that Harvard president? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Where does this hate for TRP come from?It happens as often as feminists desire it to happen. You could do it right now, if you wanted to. You have a job? You work in the corporate world? You could put up a sign in your office that says, "end toxic masculinity" and nothing at all will happen to you. Other people will agree with you. But if you put up a sign that disparages women, you'll be fired. In fact, you'll be fired even if you don't actually disparage women, but you simply go against the narrative that they're oppressed. James D… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 09:47 PM |
| 1 | Where does this hate for TRP come from?nope, and if you can't be bothered to articulate your argument, then I suspect you aren't all that confident in it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 09:43 PM |
| 1 | Where does this hate for TRP come from?you see a rather long comment, you hit the reply button, and then you make a claim about the comment that makes absolutely no sense. Why did you do that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 07:48 PM |
| 1 | Where does this hate for TRP come from?One half of your argument rests on an assumption of sociopathy no. I don't know what you're talking about. Here's a tip: instead of making a claim like this out of thin air, quote something I said, and then explain how it "rests on an assumption of sociopathy." I don't understand why I constantly have to explain to blue pillers how to go about articulating your positions! You reply to a fairly long comment, you quote none of it, and then you make a vague allusion to "half of it" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 07:40 PM |
| 3 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?oh okay, yeah I understand you know. I once heard a great talk by a french guy who made a point about feminism that I'd never thought of: it was always the upperclass women advocating for it. It was never for, nor did it ever serve, middle and lower class women. Do you know the talk I'm referencing? It's subtitled. The revisionist history that men are bad and women are oppressed was invented by feminist leaders in order to get lower class women onboard. It's like incels telling lies to awkward t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 03:36 PM |
| 5 | Is marriage worth it in today’s era?You’ve been indoctrinated with a revisionist version of history. Go up to an elderly couple sitting in a park and ask them if beatings and rapes were part of their lives, or their parents, or their grandparents. That’s easily 100 years of history that you can get from the source. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 03:16 PM |
| 16 | Where does this hate for TRP come from?If you were to describe male sexuality openly and honestly, without filters, would it sound flattering? No, but it would sound ...familiar. Because society has no prohibition on unflattering characterizations of men. You can go into society's core institutions (political or academic, for example, but also corporate) and talk about "toxic masculinity" - an unflattering characterization of men. You'll be met with thunderous applause and assured that you're stunning and brave. But if you say, "I'm … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 01:34 PM |
| 12 | Proof that this sub is mostly red-pillers and not truly a purple pill debate?Please explain why you feel an equal split is even remotely necessary to the purpose of this subreddit? Debates involve ideas, not popularity. There’s a 2:1 ratio you say? Okay. Let me tell you something. If there was a “debate FDS” subreddit and I was the only non-FDS person there vs. 100 FDS regulars so the ratio was 1:100 with me in the minority but they allowed me to post I would be overjoyed. That would rock. I can’t imagine whining about that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 10:33 PM |
| 3 | What is the “inherent value” women have that men don’t?I don't think you understood the comment you just responded to. Studies have shown that men and women tend to have a more favorable opinion of a person who is a woman. I suspect you misunderstood that to mean that you personally must necessarily have a favorable opinion of women in general ...but it doesn't mean that. The way the studies work is, they read you a narrative like this (and this is a paraphrase of one I actually got from a study): "as you're walking into a grocery store, you observe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 04:53 PM |
| 9 | What is the “inherent value” women have that men don’t?The phenomenon is known in psychology as automatic in-group bias. Studies have shown that both men and women tend to have a more favorable opinion of a person who is a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 04:00 PM |
| – | If there is so few women who are fit for LTR, a tiny % of women are swamped with offers from HVM. Who are these women?You seem like a really nice person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/21 04:58 PM |
| 10 | Do women really scout for other options before ending a relationship?yeah, I agree. Women in this thread will say, "no wai!! I wood nevar!!" but I suspect that if you started asking them questions like, pick a date when you broke up with a guy - they give some specific date. Okay, and when did you get your next LTR after that - "eight months later - see!! I didn't have anything lined up!!" Okay but how long did you date that guy before the LTR - "seven months." And when did you first meet him? "oh, I had known him for a while" That's what dudes are talking about,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/21 03:43 PM |
| – | If there is so few women who are fit for LTR, a tiny % of women are swamped with offers from HVM. Who are these women?Frequently I hear self proclaimed HV guys on the RP side of things justifying the fact that they bone thots with the idea that there is barely any women who are fit for LTR Can you please link me to a couple of examples so that I can see what you're talking about in context? Who are these women? Here are some examples of what I think are marriage-worthy women: Suzanne Venker - and to be clear, I don't find her especially attractive, and (if she wasn't already married) I think she's a bit old to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/21 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Fellow men, women don't say the truth because WE get angry when they doMy attempt to change your view is to point out to you that you have absolutely no basis for your view. a huge proportion of men jump in with vitriol do you have a citation for that? Can you even quantify the weasel word, "huge proportion" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 09:56 PM |
| 1 | 41% of women would go on a date with someone who voted for the opposing candidate, compared to 67% of men. Why do you think this is? How will this affect relationships when a majority of men are republicans and a majority of women are democrats?women compete among ourselves yes, exactly. by looksmaxxing and college-maxxing yes on looks. "Not really" on college. But what's always amusing to me is that I never see women hit on the idea of using femininity to out-compete other women. I see women talking about "leveling up" but they seem to be talking about, as you said, going to college or starting businesses etc. By contrast, masculinity is a big and constant topic in men's forums - and though men may not be able to articulate it, what m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 09:48 PM |
| 2 | 41% of women would go on a date with someone who voted for the opposing candidate, compared to 67% of men. Why do you think this is? How will this affect relationships when a majority of men are republicans and a majority of women are democrats?The problem that women are trying to solve is that they have too many choices. You can see this in the data from any dating app. A typical woman has thousands of matches - too many to choose from This is why they’re not bothered by people who show them statistics that, for example, only some small proportion of men meet their height requirements for example. From a woman’s perspective, that’s okay because she she still has 500 matches. They don’t think they need to compromise on any characterist… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 09:03 PM |
| 0 | [Q4All] How often do you think Men talk their way out of getting laid?yep. It's always better, as a man, to be told "no" than to miss your chance. Something I've posted about in TRP before: I try to ask out every girl that I meet. A lot of them are in relationships, but that's okay. Having asked her out puts me in the category of men she knows would like to go out with her if I could. If she contacts me later, I know what's up - she's single now and it's on. By contrast, if we met and I didn't ask her out, then when she's single I'm in that grey zone and I would h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/21 06:07 PM |
| 4 | [Q4All] How often do you think Men talk their way out of getting laid?When you first meet a woman, if she likes the image you present, she will fill in all the missing information with more stuff she likes. It's basically a fantasy, and of course men do it too, though we're more likely to do it with stuff about her body. Anyway, a woman likes you, and it's based in part of real stuff she's seen and in part on things she's made up in her own head. By talking, you can either confirm the good stuff, or contradict it. If you contradict it, that's "talking your way out… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/21 04:52 PM |
| 1 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?Her: then I’m kicking you out into the street with no savings and no job! Well first of all, you have to give me 30 days notice in order to evict me. Secondly, if my job was that easy to quit, then it'll be just as easy to get a new one. If I was a barista or something. If I have a career, then let's back up to this step: will you move in with me to my mansion and quit your job? If I have a career such that long breaks in employment set me back, then I will simply evaluate the utility of living … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 09:35 PM |
| 1 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?we know that Drake is going to be the one with more pull in that relationship how though?? Specifically, how. her: I want to take a vacation in Italy Drake: nah. her: oh, okay. Drake: let's jet down to Ibiza. her: okay! \<sup>\</sup><sup>\</sup><sup>\</sup><sup>\</sup><sup>\</sup><sup>\</sup><sup>\</sup><sup>\</sup><sup>\</sup>^ this is abuse???? Really???? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 08:39 PM |
| 3 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?There are examples of older women using/ taking advantage of younger men. BUT HOW I still don't get it! her: hey /u/nicethingyoucanthave, I'm a rich old lady, do you want this giant bag of cash? me: sure! her: but first you have to touch my old lady parts! How is this manipulation?? I can decide to do it, or not. She's not casting a spell on me. older people often will have a financial advantage Why can't you give a specific example of WTF you're talking about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 08:34 PM |
| 1 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?Let’s say you marry her, but don’t give her any access to the bank accounts, have the best family lawyer in the state, and are best friends with the judge. ...and, you collude with all the other men (during the annual meeting of the patriarchy) to make her wear a funny red outfit and be in the handmaid's tale. This really isn't about an age difference at this point, or even access to the bank accounts. If I have psychic control over her and the judge, and my lawyer has his own TV show, I could m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 08:30 PM |
| 2 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?yeah, I'm still not getting it. they may marry a younger person and convince them they don’t need to work okay so... me: "my darling, my darling, my life and my bride, will you marry me?" (I would never say this, lol) her: "yes!!" me: "now that we're married, you should quit your job and live on my yacht!" her: ...don't you mean our yacht? because that way [he] can more easily keep that person from leaving LOL! If she leaves, she gets half. If anyone is being taken advantage of here, it's me! By… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 08:12 PM |
| 1 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?I think I need you to explain this part a bit more: manipulate a younger person or gain control of them via finances Surely it's more than: me: "hey, want to go on a date to a fancy restaurant?" her: "sure!" you: "he's manipulating her with finances!!!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 07:18 PM |
| 1 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?Yeah. To be honest, I thought it was just a dumb question. "p...please don't spin my words sempai!" But my response was, and I'm not kidding here, meaningful. You should be outcome independent on an anonymous message board. You should state your positions, all the time, regardless of what other people do. You don't really know a thing until you can fully articulate it with words. I truly believe that. This weird comfort test where she tries to get me to pinkie swear that I'll be nice to her is .… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 03:48 PM |
| 1 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?if you were to go and look up the definition of "response" what do you think it'll say? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 03:37 PM |
| 4 | How much of the sex market imbalance between gender is a product of nature / nurture?relationship/sex/marriage dynamics were based around the fact that people couldn't control their fertility Yes, I agree 100% Another huge factor was the significant negative consequences for a woman who became pregnant without securing the commitment of a man. And that factor was (mostly) removed through the creation of social safety nets. So among our ancestors: sex makes babies, and babies without male investment are a huge risk. That's the environment we were designed, by natural selection, t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 02:21 PM |
| 1 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?My answer was that either option, "yes" or "no" should be the same to you. You should behave the same way no matter what. That's a good answer, and you should go back and reflect on it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 03:27 AM |
| 1 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?Don't worry about what other people do. Articulate your position for yourself, because the exercise makes the thoughts clearer inside your own head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 03:24 AM |
| 2 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?non-answer that's a lie. I gave you an answer. And I correctly predicted that you're the kind of person who makes excuses to conceal your inability to articulate your beliefs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 03:14 AM |
| 7 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?you chose to not answer it That's not true. I did answer it. My answer was that either option, "yes" or "no" should be the same to you. You should behave the same way no matter what. That's a good answer, and you should go back and reflect on it. If you like, I can go into a whole thing about what consciousness is - what we are as individuals. But the punchline is that language is necessary for thought. So as I said above, you should articulate your position for yourself - for your own benefit. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 02:38 AM |
| 2 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?It's so discouraging how often I encounter people who are unable to articulate their beliefs. Without fail, they always make excuses too, just like you're doing now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 02:29 AM |
| 0 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?Don't worry about what other people do. Articulate your position for yourself, because the exercise makes the thoughts clearer inside your own head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 01:25 AM |
| 2 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?Yeah, the "field trip" comment jumped out at me too. Pretty funny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 01:23 AM |
| 7 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?it's taking advantage? as opposed to what? me: "hey, want to go on a date?" her: "sure!" you: hEs taKIng aDVAntage!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 01:18 AM |
| 6 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?It baffles me how in this day and age women could have a lack of success dating Success isn't measured against what you do, but against what you want. Women can get dates, yes. But what they want is (apparently) something else, or something more. They're not getting what they want, apparently. unless you mean bad dates/relationships Well, "bad date" is a post-hoc description. If a man tries to make a plan, but something goes wrong and you end up with nothing much to do ...but you like him, that'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 01:16 AM |
| 3 | Do 'average' Women just bring more to the table today than 'average' Men?In any relationship where dissimilar things are exchanged, it doesn't make sense to say that one party "brings more to the table." I'll give two examples: You have a relationship with your employer. You exchange dissimilar things. You bring productivity to the table, and your employer brings money. It doesn't make any sense to say, "I bring more to the table than my employer." Maybe what you mean to say is, "I'm not being paid enough" and that's fine, you can demand a raise or find another job. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 10:13 PM |
| 6 | There's a very simple solution to women's AF/BB hypocrisy for BB men. Don't Marry.so many posters on here state BB men are totally loved by their girlfriends and totally what women want. Please link to an example or two so that I can see what you’re talking about in context | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/21 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Meeting Women Outside Just Isn't Viable AnymoreOkCupid WhateverYouSayCupid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/21 04:47 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderI articulated my position. You’re unable to do the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 01:41 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderI'm sure if that were true you would link to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 12:41 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderI articulated my position. You’re unable to do the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 12:01 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderI'm sure if that were true you would link to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 11:41 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderI articulated my position. You’re unable to do the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 06:50 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderI'm sure if that were true you would link to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 05:40 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderI articulated my position. You’re unable to do the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 03:30 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderI'm sure if that were true you would link to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 03:20 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderI articulated my position. You’re unable to do the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 02:30 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderI'm sure if that were true you would link to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 02:20 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderI articulated my position. You’re unable to do the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 12:20 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderI'm sure if that were true you would link to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/21 09:33 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderI'm sure if that were true, you would link to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/21 09:25 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality Disorderyou are unable to argue for your position | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/21 04:29 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderI comprehensively destroyed every single point you made. if that were true I'm sure you'd link to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/21 12:05 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderIf you were able to argue for your position, you would. But you're not able to. It's sad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/21 01:16 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderYou are unable to support your claims with arguments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 11:35 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderNo, it's a meaningful response that gets to the heart of your failure in this thread. You are unable to support your claims with arguments. You are physically unable. One might even say, intellectually impotent. "Limp" if you will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 11:36 AM |
| 5 | What will children of the ones currently posting thirst traps/racy tik tok videos think when they stumble across their parents' profiles?Don't you understand the difference between a porn VHS which is a physical thing that will exist for as long as the film works versus apps whos content only exists online and within a gated platform. I have two responses to this. First, though I'm not familiar with the story /u/-Ivar-TheBoneless mentioned, do you think that teacher's past was uncovered when someone popped an '80s VHS into a VCR and went, "whoa! That's Ms. McGillicuddy!" Or do you think it's more likely that someone found a moder… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 11:33 AM |
| 1 | Why is it wrong to prefer to have traditional gender roles?Do you think that when /u/rufinishedrudone says "SAHM" he means the Real Housewives of Miami that lounge around all day and yell at cats in restaurants?? Or do you think he means a woman who doesn't leave the house to work a job where she gets paid money? Do you really seriously believe that he created a thread where the point he wanted to make was, "hey guys, come on, it's okay for the wives of millionaires to never have to lift a finger! Come on guys! Stop oppressing the real housewives of Mia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/21 12:03 AM |
| 0 | Why is it wrong to prefer to have traditional gender roles?Poor women like yourself always worked. Do you have a citation for that? Here's mine (and here's the paper). It says that before WWII, only a tiny minority of women worked outside the home, and when you look at married women, the percentage is even smaller. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/21 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Why is it wrong to prefer to have traditional gender roles?Throughout history only upper-class women have been able to get away without doing any form of work outside the home. Do you have a citation for that? Here's mine (and here's the paper). It says that before WWII, only a tiny minority of women worked outside the home, and when you look at married women, the percentage is even smaller. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/21 10:51 PM |
| 35 | How would you sum up the message of Red Pill in one sentence?How about, "if you deny reality, it works against you" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 08:45 PM |
| 7 | How would you sum up the message of Red Pill in one sentence?Both of your answers are pretty good. Here's my go at it: What we're told about human sexuality by mainstream (blue pill) society is inaccurate, so what I want to do is discover the truth, and then develop/cultivate attributes and behaviors in myself which make women truly attracted to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 08:45 PM |
| 2 | "Hes hot...but I get the vibe he wasnt born hot, so I'm weirded out by him"Actively putting up a false front is different and I would say it’s understandable if someone (man or woman) doesn’t want to date after they get a deceitful vibe. I understand your point, but I think you need to give specific examples of a "false front." In my opinion, the only things that I can possibly change about myself, under the assumption that women are attracted to those things, are things I actually change, not things I could fake change. So they wouldn't be "false fronts." One thing yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 08:43 PM |
| 1 | "Hes hot...but I get the vibe he wasnt born hot, so I'm weirded out by him"I have literally never met a woman who cared about the “authenticity” of a mans physical appearance. Note that very often, people aren't conscious of the true, underlying reason for their behavior. They are driven by feelings and those feelings are a result of ancient instincts. For example, it's fairly uncontroversial that the secondary sex characteristics that men find attractive in women are signals of a woman's fertility. Why do you like tits? It's because tits indicate that a woman can feed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 04:13 PM |
| 3 | FDS really isn't that badThe problem is covert contracts. "If I have sex with him then he'll probably commit to me." This is it exactly. And the more I think about it, the more I realize it's related to a something that came up just yesterday in this thread. Women have sex and then "catch feelings." Women do that. They must be out there assuming men will do that too. They must be! After all, they make similar assumptions around attraction in general. You constantly see women advertise themselves using qualities that the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 08:52 AM |
| 1 | FDS really isn't that badnone of their ideas is ever about making themselves into a woman that a man would want to marry. women have an abundance of advice on how to tow the line. Give me one example of advice you've gotten. A specific example. Do you really think its hard to figure out? Is it hard to figure out how to be a woman that a man would want to marry?? This is your question for me, as we discuss an entire subreddit full of women struggling to achieve that goal?? This is your question for me, in a culture full … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 08:40 AM |
| 3 | FDS really isn't that badThe fundamental problem with FDS is that they have no answer to the following question: If you manage to find a HVM, why should he pick you? Note that TRP is almost entirely focused on the answer to this question. "What do women find attractive?" Whatever it is that women find attractive, that's what we try to be. If they like confidence, we develop confidence. If they like career success, we build our careers. If they like physical fitness, we hit the gym. A woman should pick me because I'm att… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 03:08 AM |
| 3 | "Hes hot...but I get the vibe he wasnt born hot, so I'm weirded out by him"You should be your own person "just be yourself!" "there's someone for everyone!" "everything happens for a reason!" "when god closes a door, he opens a window!" These are platitudes, not plans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 02:26 AM |
| 14 | CMV: Most of women's dating issues stem from the fact they just aren't likable to the men they get withI agree with you, OP. Most men will have sex with any reasonably attractive women. And most women are attractive to us. But to get beyond sex, to actually have feelings and want to be around you, that requires more than just sex. Men generally don't "catch feelings" either. If I don't like you as a person, but you make yourself available for sex, then fine okay, sure, I'm down for that. But I promise you, I'm not going to wake up the next morning in love with you. Men just don't work that way. .… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/21 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Can you summarize the opposite gender's preferences in one sentence?Do you pick out all of one flavor out of the bag of skittles? I honestly can't remember what flavors skittles come in. But let's say I had a favorite. Then what? it shouldn’t matter who you date/fuck/marry; they’re all interchangeable Well, no. I picked out my favorite. They taste different. They're not interchangeable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/21 10:14 AM |
| 5 | Can you summarize the opposite gender's preferences in one sentence?they’re all interchangeable this is called "the fallacy of the excluded middle" I say, "there are also preferences that are incredibly common" and you (dishonestly) pretend I just said, "people are as alike as ballbearings" I have to tell you, this is so, so, so fucking typical of you blue pillers. It seems like not a week goes by that I don't have to call one of you out on your specious logic. This is exactly why you disagree with TRP - the way you arrive at your conclusions is fallacious. Look… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/21 04:18 PM |
| 6 | Can you summarize the opposite gender's preferences in one sentence?"Different people, like different things at different times" You're the kind of person who thinks advertisements don't work on you because everyone is different. It's true that everyone is different, but there are also preferences that are incredibly common, and aiming to meet those preferences is a valid strategy. "Everyone is different" is treacle and leaves no room for improving yourself or your chances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/21 03:16 PM |
| 4 | "Hes hot...but I get the vibe he wasnt born hot, so I'm weirded out by him"the assumption that the difference stems from culture until proven otherwise. yeah, I know. But see, that's the logical fallacy: special pleading. There's no evidence that humans are different in kind from any other animal. We're only different in degree. We do a lot with that difference, it's true, but we're still animals. If you have a different starting assumption when analyzing the behavior of humans than you have for every other animal, that's special pleading. The correct way to approach t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 10:06 PM |
| 4 | "Hes hot...but I get the vibe he wasnt born hot, so I'm weirded out by him"Well, I don't want to pester anyone. But, I might go back and look at comments she's subsequently posted and see if there's anything compelling there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 09:19 PM |
| 15 | "Hes hot...but I get the vibe he wasnt born hot, so I'm weirded out by him"No, and I bet you can't articulate an argument along those lines either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 09:14 PM |
| 7 | "Hes hot...but I get the vibe he wasnt born hot, so I'm weirded out by him"What is the difference between TRP with all the bad stuff stripped away and generic self-help? That's a great question, and one that I enjoy answering because, while I'm happy to admit that specific (anonymous) individuals posting in a subreddit are saying crazy things that I don't agree with, the core worldview is, in my opinion, scientifically accurate, entirely moral, and important. The worldview of TRP is that what you're told about human sexuality by the mainstream dominant culture is a lie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 09:13 PM |
| 44 | "Hes hot...but I get the vibe he wasnt born hot, so I'm weirded out by him"I'm glad you posted this because I think it's an instance of a common objection I hear to TRP. Women don't always articulate it this way, but I think it's an unconscious fear that an attractive man isn't "authentically" attractive. It's sometimes confusing for me, because I encounter people (for example, this was a week ago) who have a negative view of TRP and the conversation I'd like to have is, let's cut away every specifically "bad" thing you can point to - everything you've cherry picked - … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 11:01 AM |
| 1 | Are relationships with large financial, physical, or status gaps as creepy as relationships with large age gaps?Dude he’s not disagreeing with you. He’s just pointing out that even if women went waaaay down the list of male strength, those are still men who are stronger than they are. I agree with you too (except that I don’t think preferences are really a choice, but I won’t nit pick that) but I think strength is your weakest (pun intended) point. Yes, women want men taller than them but their preference for strength isn’t like that. It isn’t measured against them, it’s measured against other men. But ye… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/21 02:10 AM |
| 1 | Despite TRPers desperately wanting it to be true science shows that women aren't attracted to dark triad men.Great! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/21 07:48 PM |
| 1 | Despite TRPers desperately wanting it to be true science shows that women aren't attracted to dark triad men.You're alluding to an argument here, but not actually making one. You're claiming that didn't read something when you should be repeating (if indeed your claim is true, which I have no reason to believe) the vital information. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/21 07:24 PM |
| 3 | Despite TRPers desperately wanting it to be true science shows that women aren't attracted to dark triad men."a woman" =/= "all women" Well then you've set up the discussion in a dishonest way. You said, "women aren't attracted to X" Then we reach a point in the discussion where, lo and behold, we have examples of women who are attracted to X And you reply, "yeah, but not all women" - indicating that your actual claim is, "not all women are attracted to X" - but see, that's true for everything I could say, "women aren't attracted to tall men" and then you start showing me examples of women who are attr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/21 11:28 AM |
| 3 | Despite TRPers desperately wanting it to be true science shows that women aren't attracted to dark triad men.having children isn't proof of attraction to most women? Do you think that rape is sufficiently common to produce these results? Because otherwise, yeah, having children does indicate that a woman was attracted enough to you to have sex, and let you get her pregnant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/21 01:02 AM |
| 3 | Despite TRPers desperately wanting it to be true science shows that women aren't attracted to dark triad men.How did he dismantle anything? He contrasted the sources you cited, which are online surveys and therefore of little scientific value, with better studies that contradict you, and have very high N (and I presume P) values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/21 12:54 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderB personality disorders have increased in millennial women It's also worse in leftist in general. If leftists are more likely to date casually instead of seek out LTRs, that means it's very likely you're going to be encountering women with these disorders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/21 12:51 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality Disorderyeah. As you get older, you have a greater chance of encountering "broken" people, because they keep going back to the dating pool over and over again, while healthy people are able to stay in an LTR if they want. It's a risk you just have to take if you want to be out there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/21 12:48 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality Disorderunderhanded manipulation does work on Borderlines I'm happy to stipulate that "underhanded manipulation" works on everyone. That is not addressing my point because it's not a support of your position. Your position is not that "underhanded manipulation" works (on BPD or otherwise). Your position, in your OP, is that TRP works. The dichotomy that you presented (and it looks like a mod gave you a strike for breaking a rule, but I quoted it here) was: underhanded psychology [or] talking one to one … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/21 12:46 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderYou have a habit of accusing people of not supporting their claims You have a responsibility to support your claims, and you haven't even tried to do that here. even self evident ones "It's self-evident" isn't an argument, it's just another claim. you're contradictung yourself If that's true then you'll quote two things I've said which contract each other. But you wont, because you can't, because I didn't. That's why you lost this exchange. In my next reply to you, I'll go through it from the be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/21 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Have you ever met a TRP or FDS person in real life? What were their lives like?if you feel attracted to someone, you stop and ask yourself if they're displaying those behaviors and if so, just stay away from them? It's not hard? I just want to be clear because this is a day-old comment. "those behaviors" is a reference to my previous comment where I said, "behave in ways that women find attractive" right? So your reply is, if you're feeling attracted to a guy, you stop and ask yourself if they are behaving in ways that you find attractive, and if they are ...you stay away … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/21 12:03 PM |
| 6 | Have you ever met a TRP or FDS person in real life? What were their lives like?you missed the point I believe I'm deconstructing the point to better understand it. One of your objections to TRP is the idea that I want to "figure out what traits and behaviors women find attractive and cultivate those in myself" Your objection is that this as a concept is, "I am not all women. I have my own identity and preferences" - in which I detect some level of offense. You're unique, and it offends you (as far as I can tell) that I'm talking about women as a group. /u/FabulousFuchsbau … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/21 11:59 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderWanting to keep the job gives him power to maintain her attraction/iterest That's really reaching. I doubt you can find another person who would read that story and, unprompted, come up with the narrative that he has "power" by virtue of keeping a job that he would otherwise quit. But okay, find, how about a grant that ... There is the power of the woman to influence his actions okay so she has power too, according to you. So, you've just admitted they both have power in this relationship. I'm s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/21 11:48 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderYou don't see how using TRP to modify/maintain attraction isn't associated with modifying/maintaining power in a relationship? Why must that necessarily be the case? Say it turns out that women like men who are passionate about something. Say there's a guy who is passionate about his job. Say he starts a relationship with a girl and she's attracted to him. Say he's considering quitting his job though, for whatever reason. But say he decides to keep the job anyway, because he believes it's part o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 02:47 AM |
| 4 | Have you ever met a TRP or FDS person in real life? What were their lives like?You can’t change your height. How is that relevant to a thought experiment that begins with the word "if" But yes that’s usually preferred. Agreed. If a man could choose his height, his best strategy would be to choose to be tall. Now, does this fact negate the existence of women who like short men? No, of course not. So if you encountered (in this imaginary world) a forum where men were discussing what height they would choose, and you saw the men saying, "definitely pick tall!" what would be t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 02:37 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderI've misunderstood nothing. You claimed that, "now I'm agreeing" but you haven't supported that claim by showing where I contradicted myself. So, you've misunderstood. You've made up something inside your own head and assigned it to me. You just haven't thought your argument through. I promise you, everything that I saw in this forum is well-reasoned and supported by evidence. The reason I'm confident about that is all the years that I've spent here being challenged unsuccessfully by blue piller… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 02:33 AM |
| 2 | Have you ever met a TRP or FDS person in real life? What were their lives like?I have my own identity and preferences Do you disagree with the concept, on paper, that there might exist certain traits and behaviors that are sufficiently commonly attractive to women, that it would be worthwhile to a man to develop them in himself, if he can? I'll put that another way, and with a specific example: if a man could choose to be any height, would it be more advantageous to him to choose to be tall, or to choose to be short? And if he chooses to be tall, because he believes that m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 02:22 AM |
| 3 | Have you ever met a TRP or FDS person in real life? What were their lives like?For just a moment, let’s pretend we’re not talking about TRP. If I said that my strategy was to figure out what traits and behaviors women find attractive and cultivate those in myself, do object to that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Despite TRPers desperately wanting it to be true science shows that women aren't attracted to dark triad men.Yeah, I thinking more of an example like, “when I met my husband he was waking an old lady across the street” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 12:28 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality Disordernow you're agreeing. Nope. You’ve misunderstood something I said. If you’ll quote what you feel is agreement I’ll try to clarify | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 12:23 AM |
| 5 | Have you ever met a TRP or FDS person in real life? What were their lives like?Red pill is open about their strategies But the core strategy is, "behave in ways that women find attractive." Just like a core marketing strategy is, "make your product attractive." You can read that and think, "ha!! I'll never fall for that!!" but the whole point is, if it works, then no matter what you said earlier, you're going to think, "hmm, I actually do want to buy that, but not because of the ads, it's because I just want to." I'd be interested to get your thoughts on this comment, from… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 12:08 AM |
| 11 | Despite TRPers desperately wanting it to be true science shows that women aren't attracted to dark triad men.Lol, you completely dismantled the OP and all they can say in response is: This doesn't change anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 12:00 AM |
| 0 | Despite TRPers desperately wanting it to be true science shows that women aren't attracted to dark triad men.I am literally turned on by compassion and kindness. I would welcome a specific example | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 11:42 PM |
| 5 | Despite TRPers desperately wanting it to be true science shows that women aren't attracted to dark triad men.TRPers desperately wanting it to be true Why do you imagine TRP wants something to be true? If I looked around and observed that women got hot and bothered for math majors, if I saw guys with pocket protectors getting laid all the time, then I would go to TRP and ask for recommendations on good math textbooks. I don't "want" any particular thing to be true. I just want to know what the truth is. How do you not understand this? Life would be easier for me if women liked men who looked exactly lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 11:38 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderYou can respond, or not respond. Do what you like. But "appeal to motive" is a logical fallacy. You're not in the right because you suggested that. Here's what we're down to: (1) you claimed "underhanded psychology" but you don't have examples, so I'm going to assume that's not true. (2) you claimed that this underhanded psychology was an alternative to logic and reason. Here's my response: human sexuality is older than our ability to reason, and is thus governed by areas of the brain that don't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 10:17 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderThat's just the logical fallacy: appeal to motive. The purpose of discussions is to better understand things. You said: Trp says that to modify your relationship you have to use underhanded psychology and not by talking one to one like adults. And I have some comments and questions. It seems that your claim is that TRP says that the way to inspire attraction of you in a woman, is to use "underhanded psychology" (again, examples please) instead of logic and reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 08:44 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderTrp says that to modify your relationship Hold on a second, TRP is about inculcating attraction. Most people use this to obtain sex. I don't think TRP is saying, "here's how to modify your relationship" you have to use underhanded psychology like what? and not by talking one to one like adults. by which you mean, "reason" don't you? So your claim is that TRP says that the way to inspire attraction of you in a woman, is to use "underhanded psychology" (again, examples please) instead of logic and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 08:04 PM |
| 14 | Have you ever met a TRP or FDS person in real life? What were their lives like?They are pretty obvious. This is sort of like saying, "marketing tricks don't work on me, they're really obvious, I make my own decisions" Marketing does work on you, and when it works you may not even notice. But you definitely notice the bad/obnoxious advertisements. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 07:48 PM |
| 3 | Have you ever met a TRP or FDS person in real life? What were their lives like?for some reason gets all the "coverage" "Negging" is playfully teasing, but it's easy to misrepresent that as outright straight up insulting a girl, and it's easy to criticize TRP on that basis. That's why critics focus on it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 07:44 PM |
| 11 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderI'm not disagreeing with that. I just want a specific example of TRP advice that only works on them. I don't think that holding frame is a good example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 07:21 PM |
| 15 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderI don’t think frame is much of an issue with a BPD girl because when you’re on their good side, they aren’t shit testing you. They treat you as if you’re perfect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 07:04 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderI'm not sure how you could start a relationship with them. No, but you can fuck them easily enough. When you meet them, they put you into the “white” or “good” category and they’re all over you, especially if you’re making it clear, through game, that that’s what you want. They want to give you what you want. When you eventually get put into they “black” or “bad” category, that’s when you get dragged into hell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 07:00 PM |
| 12 | CMV: Red Pill advice would be perfect if all the women in the world had Borderline Personality DisorderWhat’s a specific example of red pill advice that you feel would work on a girl with BPD but not work on a girl without BPD? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 06:41 PM |
| 2 | Most women don't deserve prince charming. Most women (like most men) are average and deserve average men. That western women waste their youth throwing themselves at high value men they don't deserve only to be pumped & dumped is why they end up bitter, alone or "settling".Women are statistically happier while single. Can you cite that source please | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 12:21 PM |
| 1 | Do men who are obsessed with dating much younger women seriously overstate the desire that younger women might have towards them? (Kinda NSFW)Do men who are obsessed with dating much younger women seriously overstate the desire that younger women might have towards them? What men? What examples can you point to of their “obsession” and examples do you have of their estimation of women’s attraction toward them? Please tell me you have one or two examples so I can see what you’re talking about in context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/21 09:38 PM |
| 10 | Now that she's 35 and overweight, her life partner has to wait for sex unlike men from her past because she finally "wants to get to know a guy for once".I think it’s because those foods aren’t as filling as meat is. I think it's because of the pasta. There are hardcore vegans who also have a lot of related beliefs like for example, they don't buy foods that come in packages (because that creates trash). Those girls are usually thin, but not necessarily fun to date because of the whole lifestyle. Then there are girls who drink and go clubbing and eat in expensive vegan restaurants. Totally different cohort. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 03/11/21 02:00 PM |
| 1 | CMV: it’s totally valid for a man to not want to be treated worse than other partners in terms of sexual accessyou're not exactly interested in the relationship ...the sexual relationship. That's an important word. You shouldn't leave it out (but you do leave it out, because it shows the flaw in your reasoning). We're not talking about friends or family relationships. We're not talking employer/employee relationships ...but if we were, you would understand that it's valid for an employee who discovers that everyone else who has done the same job was paid more money, to be a little upset. And if an employ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 02:12 PM |
| 1 | You should put out at least within the first few dates but also have a low body count?I think a lot of people witness. ...but you think that without evidence. That should really bother you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 12:30 PM |
| 3 | You should put out at least within the first few dates but also have a low body count?the people agreeing with me aren’t enough No, they really aren't. Why did you make a post in which you claimed you've seen something in writing, without having links ready to go? Why do blue pillers like you do this ... all the time? Really, I see it all the time. And hey, check this out, here I am claiming that I see something all the time. You would be justified here to demand that show examples. Are you ready? it should be easy for you to link one - result: no links provided Why do you think … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 11:32 AM |
| 1 | You should put out at least within the first few dates but also have a low body count?You see men state they wouldn’t date a woman with a high body count and in the same breath say they wouldn’t go on more than 3 dates without sex? Pease provide two or three examples where "you see men state ... in the same breath" these two positions. I would like to read these comments in context. Or, please explain why you would post an entire thread around this claim that you have seen this thing, without having examples of the thing you're claiming to see. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 11:03 AM |
| 1 | Are women "delusional" about penis size?I've had this happen to me as well(6"5~/16.5cm length), where some girls have told me I'm about 18-20cm(7-8"). This is called "girl inches" I just assumed women were lying in order to pay us a compliment. They also always tend to say something about how they never come from PIV but they did this time. They’re just trying to be nice and give a compliment. It's a bit like how we always tell women they're beautiful. It's not that we're blind, or can't judge beauty. We're just trying to be nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 11:21 AM |
| 18 | You can’t even tell nowadays. Leaves boring chemical engineer to fuck warm beer weirdo.all women are whores until proven otherwise Same here, since going rp. I await the day I am pleasantly surprised. Might actually marry that one. The things I actually like about women remain true. I love the way they look, and the way they feel. I love making them laugh. I love a girl’s smile. But all the blue pill fantasies about purity are bunk. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 29/10/21 02:21 AM |
| 20 | You can’t even tell nowadays. Leaves boring chemical engineer to fuck warm beer weirdo.having them admit their insane pasts In my experience, they're still only giving you the "tame" versions. The best stories I hear, I hear from women about other women. They tell stories about their girlfriends, or their roommates, sometimes even their sisters. And, I know the feeling that /u/WeRAllOnThisBlessedD alluded to when you think a girl is sweet, feminine ...one of the good ones, and then you start hearing those stories. It's surreal. I'm not even judging - I'm just saying it's surreal. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 28/10/21 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Question for LGBTQ+ people of PPD: how true is the Red PIll or the Blue Pill for you?humans are very plastic and malleable Individuals are, yes. But looking at the group as a whole, you see behaviors that are a result of underlying "instinctive" drives. Individuals of other species are plastic and malleable too. You can certainly train a dog to eat vegetables, but if you look at the species as a whole, they eat meat. Similarly, you can find individual humans who don't eat meat, but if you look at the group as a whole, we do. This is true of traits too. You can easily find very t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/21 04:26 PM |
| 1 | Question for LGBTQ+ people of PPD: how true is the Red PIll or the Blue Pill for you?Why? Because the alternative is "special pleading" which is a logical fallacy. If you find a tooth, you can make inferences about the diet of the animal it belonged to based on the shape of the tooth. The null hypothesis is that the same selective pressures which shaped other animals teeth shaped the teeth of this one. If you disagree, that's fine, but the burden of proof is on you. It could be that you're right! It could be that you've found a plant eater that ate some especially hard plant and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/21 04:20 PM |
| 1 | Question for LGBTQ+ people of PPD: how true is the Red PIll or the Blue Pill for you?Saying “this exists in other species and therefore it must exist in humans” isn’t the null hypothesis. It is the null hypothesis. God does not exist. That’s just-so unfalsifiable horseshit. Lol you're reduced to cursing because this truth I've told you has made you angry. It's obviously falsifiable, if you're able, which you're not, because it's not false. Birds are more monogamous than humans. This is a great example to prove my point! The degree to which a species exhibits monogamy is related … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/21 12:34 AM |
| 5 | Question for LGBTQ+ people of PPD: how true is the Red PIll or the Blue Pill for you?They are pretty straight forward. I like you split "straightforward" into two words to make a neat pun | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/21 09:47 PM |
| 6 | Question for LGBTQ+ people of PPD: how true is the Red PIll or the Blue Pill for you?I don’t believe hypergamy is real What do you think hypergamy is? I think hypergamy is a component of a female's instinctive mating strategy that drives her to prefer males with higher than average traits (however you measure that). And I chose the word "female" very carefully because I'm not just talking about women here. This instinct has been observed and even tested experimentally (by manually altering male traits) in other species, for example, widow birds. I can link you a study if you lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/21 09:44 PM |
| 4 | Typical modern, barely average looking, chick rants about Tinder Chads fucking her, but not committing... Noooo, you're not the problem (unable to hold up your own standards) sweetie. Someone take her on a date for a whamburger and french cries. Skip to 3:18 for when she gets real honest!I would like to respond to this comment and help you understand my perspective. I'm certain this would be completely new perspective, and not one that you've ever heard before ...but, I doubt that you'd hear it this time either. I don't see you replying to people who engage with you. If I'm wrong about that. If you're willing to engage and have a discussion, just let me know and I'll share that (again, I promise it will be entirely new to you) perspective. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 05/10/21 03:59 PM |
| 4 | Q4M: Are you okay with your female SO regularly watching porn?I would have far, far less of a problem with her watching porn than I would have with her texting dudes. Let’s say she’s into raw “fuck me good daddy” “big dick” “masculine dude” hetero porn. lol yeah, I assume that's why she's dating me in the first place. How do you feel about the erotica she reads, if that’s her preference? That does tend to be their preference because of an important difference between male and female sexuality: the male fantasy is a fertile woman who wants to fuck you. And … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/21 07:05 PM |
| 10 | (Most of) TRP and men who want a traditional submissive partner don't really know what they are asking for.Why did you bother to reply without even a single example? I suspect that if you do manage to dig up an example, it’s going to be a casual, passing reference to some ill-defined concept of “submissiveness” by which he means fairly innocuous things like, deciding which church we attend. And your example won’t support a thread about NPC fantasies. If you were required to have examples in order to make a claim, a lot of the threads here would have just one comment and it would say, “the examples yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/21 12:03 PM |
| 9 | (Most of) TRP and men who want a traditional submissive partner don't really know what they are asking for.I don't think this is too popular among TRP. Note that as usual, OP has no examples of the thing he’s complaining about so that we can see it in context. This subreddit really needs a rule that you’re not allowed to claim, “TRP says…” without at least two examples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/21 11:47 AM |
| 8 | Some of the blue pill gaslighting that doesn't exist.Contrast that with FDS, which has received at least two puff-pieces in mainstream media where the narrative was, "finally women are fighting back and evening the playing field of dating! you go grrl queen" Here's one I have handy just because I posted it to the private sub: https://archive.is/O3FR7 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/21 11:57 PM |
| 18 | Some of the blue pill gaslighting that doesn't exist.The way I used to explain this in TRP is to imagine going into a country club full of rich people and asking them what they hate about their current cars (ferraris, most of them) and what they want in a car. You'll get answers like, "ugh! It pisses me off that it scrapes the bottom going over speed bumps!!" and "I really wish it got better gas mileage!" If you were naive, you might listen to those things and then go design a Toyota Camry. You return to the country club with your shiny Camry and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/21 12:06 PM |
| 3 | 138 dates of a high powered, 30 something, plain Jane, struhng induypyndunt career wymyns with mile high standards.... 🤣It's an interesting thought experiment. What would the world be like if 100% of women followed the principles of FDS? Well for a start, it would mean that if you go on a date with a woman, you will not be getting sex. Now, that's not the end of the world. If sex only happened within the confines of committed relationships, in some ways that'd be an improvement over what we have now, but that's not what FDS advocates. You would not be getting sex, but she would have a fuck buddy. The fuck buddies… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 11/08/21 12:43 AM |
| 2 | Results from a new speed dating studyWhat does that mean? Like being better at parallel parking and good hand-eye coordination type of thing? Spacial intelligence was measured by the "figure selection" portion of Liepmann et al., 2007. The problems look like this: https://i.imgur.com/ilBDlqg.png So, no parallel parking. Men rated women as attractive long-term partners without knowing the women's scores. It just turned out (i.e. is a finding of the study) that the women who were more rated more attractive also did a little better on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/21 03:48 PM |
| – | Study: Misogynists Believe They Are Unattractive to WomenWhat do women need protection from in modern times Work, like lifting things or opening things. Regardless, the entirety of that study is invalid because it fails to acknowledge this startling fact: humans are a sexual species and like almost all such species, the males perform displays which are public and costly. If these researchers were Bauer Birds, they would label the building of houses “sexism” and if they were frogs, they’d label croaking harassment. Any scientific work they do should be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/21 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Guys tend to settle for what seems to be the easier option/ evade women they deem out of their league out of fear of rejection + intimidationWhen does this happen: approaching/ “scoring” women they would have otherwise never have gone for if it means a free ego boost->no chance of rejection Give me a scenario where there's "no chance of rejection" with a woman I "would have otherwise never have gone for" What? Like trapped on a sinking ship or something? When does this happen? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/21 01:28 AM |
| 22 | Word To The Wise -- The Biggest Little Mistake You'll Probably MakeYep. You can't read a girl's mind, and even asking ahead of time what she's into often doesn't get at the truth, for a variety of reasons. So really your two choices are: (1) be cautious. Result - she's probably going to find you boring. (2) push ahead until she indicates that you've gone far enough. Result - unless you're just a complete idiot, you read her limit, then you stay on the right side of it, and everything is great. In my experience, women are perfectly okay with this. In fact, they … | /r/TheRedPill | 02/08/21 07:30 PM |
| 3 | It seems to be common knowledge that fewer men are dating and in relationships than women. But if the gender ratio is roughly 50/50, how can this be?Roy Baumeister Yep, that's the guy! At the time he made that claim (that you have more female than male ancestors), people had the same question that OP has here: "how is that possible when the gender ratio is 50:50?" So I wrote a little script that simulated the dating game for however many generations you wanted, and then counted your ancestors. You could tweak the few inputs I implemented, but the most important one was libido (implemented as a delay between partners). If everyone had the sam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/21 05:03 PM |
| 10 | It seems to be common knowledge that fewer men are dating and in relationships than women. But if the gender ratio is roughly 50/50, how can this be?This outcome you're observing can be modeled by adjusting a single factor: libido. If there's a libido imbalance between men and women (and there is), and you're only modeling hookups, this outcome quickly emerges. Of course, you could also have a more complicated model that also simulates marriage/LTRs, infidelity or "harems" or whatever else you want to throw in. But the minimum factor needed to get the result you're seeing is a different in libido. Imagine a small town with 100 men and 100 wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/21 10:44 AM |
| 1 | FDS v. TRPShow me a thread where FDS (a) acknowledges that their “countless options” are an illusion or (b) acknowledges the possibility that their own behavior could turn an “I want an LTR” man into a man who doesn’t want an LTR with her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/21 10:12 AM |
| 5 | FDS v. TRPFDS is about choosing the best partner from your countless options The first step in any actual, legitimate, functional dating strategy for women would be acknowledging the fact that those "countless options" are an illusion. What women actually have are countless men who want fuck them. If they could reliably narrow that down to a list of men who would consider marriage with them, they would be very, very disappointed. Worse, if they now picked the most attractive man from the "will consider ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 09:19 PM |
| 3 | FDS v. TRPif u have ur own money u can be more picky, Note the difference between “being more picky” and “a strategy that’s more likely to succeed” It’s like the difference between finding a lottery ticket and buying one for yourself. “I’m buying my own ticket, so I’m going to be picky about the numbers”. K. But that’s not a strategy for winning | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 09:00 PM |
| 2 | Woman complains that the jerk she hooked up with gets back on Tinder right after sex.2 girls sitting on his lab. My lab gets jealous if a girl sits in his spot on the couch! | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 31/07/21 10:05 PM |
| 5 | Woman complains that the jerk she hooked up with gets back on Tinder right after sex.In this guy's defense, he was very clear that he intended to get another taco. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 31/07/21 06:46 PM |
| 3 | Woman complains that the jerk she hooked up with gets back on Tinder right after sex.I've got lots of stories like this. I was dating a girl whose brother was living with her. She told me that he once had a girl fly in to meet him, he brought her home and fucked her, then had to go to work - he worked at a gay nightclub, lol. He forgets about the girl at his house and picks up a different girl and brings her home, like 3 in the morning, to find the first girl asleep in his bed. I went to a conference in DC with two other guys, one of them was on that level. We had a training ses… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 31/07/21 06:43 PM |
| 2 | Traditional gender roles are not "the natural way of things", nor are they particularly "good"You've got things completely backwards. You see a religious commandment and you conclude, "ah ha! this proves that the thing being commanded is not 'natural' for if it was, there'd be no commandment!" But that's not how cultures and religions are developed at all. It's much more likely that people were already doing a thing, and then invented a religion to justify it. The bible says "be fruitful and multiply" - according to you that means that basic reproduction isn't "natural." See how that's o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/21 02:23 PM |
| 3 | oh fucking DAMN...she just NUKED that relationship to oblivion and 28 at the time, by now she must be asking the 1 million dollar questionI don't know, this girl probably gets confused by doggy because she's expecting another guy to be in front of her. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 27/07/21 09:07 PM |
| 3 | 41 year old living alone who wasted her youth on FWBs with alphas and rejected 2 marriage proposals has a lot to tell us about how alpha males think and feels like she dog-trained them, and insists alphas/FWB are no longer for her. Now she feels "like shit" for rejecting those 2 proposals.If you like these rabbit holes, look into "autoethnography" - it's literally just blog posts about how something made you feel, and then you get to claim you've been published in a peer-reviewed journal. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 26/07/21 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Q4All Why do you think it so that liberal wow no refuse to date conservative men even though they are more masculine and chivalrous? Also why is it that conservative men get so upset about this?100% of all willing voters should be able to vote cost free, in a reasonable time frame Agreed! And I take the answer to my question: "if it stops a fraudulent voter it’s not a restriction" is, "you are right /u/nicethingyoucanthave - I agree with you" So, it sounds like you've come into full agreement with me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/21 02:19 AM |
| 1 | Q4All Why do you think it so that liberal wow no refuse to date conservative men even though they are more masculine and chivalrous? Also why is it that conservative men get so upset about this?So by your definition, if it stops a fraudulent voter it’s not a restriction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/21 01:03 AM |
| 1 | Q4All Why do you think it so that liberal wow no refuse to date conservative men even though they are more masculine and chivalrous? Also why is it that conservative men get so upset about this?What’s the definition of “restriction” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/21 12:49 AM |
| 1 | Q4All Why do you think it so that liberal wow no refuse to date conservative men even though they are more masculine and chivalrous? Also why is it that conservative men get so upset about this?so just to be clear, you're okay with certain restrictions on voting. Or are you not? Are there some restrictions you accept, or are there not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/21 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Q4All Why do you think it so that liberal wow no refuse to date conservative men even though they are more masculine and chivalrous? Also why is it that conservative men get so upset about this?I just want to make sure I understand you here laws to restrict voting You have a problem with laws that restrict voting like for example the law that says a person can only vote once? And before you reply with empty sarcasm and feigned offense, you said “laws to restrict voting” - remember that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/21 06:05 PM |
| -1 | Q4All Why do you think it so that liberal wow no refuse to date conservative men even though they are more masculine and chivalrous? Also why is it that conservative men get so upset about this?Conservative US men push laws that further discrimination against all people like what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/21 02:42 AM |
| 2 | One of the reasons the manosphere shouldn't lambast childfree women is that it openly discusses how "kids will wreck their bodies."Now even childfree women are a threat. 😂 Who said that child free women are a threat? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/21 08:18 AM |
| 1 | How can women get a man to commit to her?I think this is pretty solid advice. If you don't mind, I'd like to expound on a few points. (1) Ask yourself, what type of man are you truly actually attracted. Don't lie to yourself. The hard part of this is being honest - or perhaps I should say, "introspective" - I don't think women lie, it's just that they don't recognize the things that are truly important to them when it comes to attraction. I suspect that if you picked a woman and lined up all the men she's ever been attracted to, we wou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 04:04 PM |
| 8 | It’s expected that men act in their own best interests in mind, but when it comes to their own mothers/daughters/sisters, the tables turn. What would a “red pill” man teach his daughter(s) or sister(s) about sex, dating, & marriage?Yes that's true. ...what does this have to do with the comment you made about a degree implying "substantial income" - here's what you said: I hope to God that if somebody has a degree that they'd be earning some kind of money, more then minimum wage Yes, yes. I hope that too. But it's not true It's not true, and I don't see how "well we can't live on $11 an hour working at the Burger King" moves the conversation forward | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/21 01:33 PM |
| 3 | It’s expected that men act in their own best interests in mind, but when it comes to their own mothers/daughters/sisters, the tables turn. What would a “red pill” man teach his daughter(s) or sister(s) about sex, dating, & marriage?I'm a simple man. I see the little red envelope; I click reply. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/21 01:30 PM |
| 7 | It’s expected that men act in their own best interests in mind, but when it comes to their own mothers/daughters/sisters, the tables turn. What would a “red pill” man teach his daughter(s) or sister(s) about sex, dating, & marriage?oh! I have a meme for this: https://i.imgur.com/wMMPFuA.jpg Lot's of people have huge student loan debt and worthless degrees. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/21 01:29 PM |
| 3 | It’s expected that men act in their own best interests in mind, but when it comes to their own mothers/daughters/sisters, the tables turn. What would a “red pill” man teach his daughter(s) or sister(s) about sex, dating, & marriage?Who are you talking too? Who are you talking two? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/21 01:22 PM |
| 8 | It’s expected that men act in their own best interests in mind, but when it comes to their own mothers/daughters/sisters, the tables turn. What would a “red pill” man teach his daughter(s) or sister(s) about sex, dating, & marriage?I'm sure that made sense inside your head. Let's take it apart: people that like to do more than sit at the house value a partner that brings in a substantial income. First of all, note that the word "income" doesn't appear in the comment you're responding to. The word "degree" appears several times, and I even sarcastically mentioned "art degree." You, inside your own head, conflated degree with income. Secondly, the implication you're making is that a man who "likes to do more than sit at the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/21 01:19 PM |
| 2 | Why are people so averse to evolutionary psychology and science regarding human sex selectionWe are generally able to prioritize differently than them by whatever logic an individual sees fit. You're able to, yes. But do you? You're able to eat healthy and exercise because rationally, you know that's good for your body. But do you? You're able to prioritize work over leisure and avoid procrastination. But do you? Every year, millions of people make New Year's resolutions. They do this using their higher conscious reasoning brain. But does their behavior match their intentions? I explain… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/21 12:46 PM |
| 3 | It’s expected that men act in their own best interests in mind, but when it comes to their own mothers/daughters/sisters, the tables turn. What would a “red pill” man teach his daughter(s) or sister(s) about sex, dating, & marriage?Yep. I agree with everything you said. I just want to add: my dad told me that the kind of man I want to marry will care about those things "the kind of man I want to marry" eh? If your dad is in tune with that, why not give him your tinder account and let him pick a nice, respectable, young man for you to date? Yeah. See, your dad is likely very, very blue pill. He's imaging a nice, average guy, who will treat his daughter well and never ever cheat on her. Your dad probably has no idea why you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/21 12:30 PM |
| 1 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and bodyHow would talking to you constitute controlling you? Harry Potter isn't real. Words aren't magic spells. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/21 11:10 AM |
| 2 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and bodyyou ARE SETTING ME UP "IM BEING FOLLOWED!!! the comments are coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE!!" If you had some cogent argument to make, you'd make it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/21 12:27 AM |
| 2 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and bodyYou quoted her comment then didn’t address what she said. I did address what she said. Then I repeated and expounded on it, just for you. I'm sure if any of that was untrue, you would argue for it rather than just claim it over and over again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 10:00 PM |
| 2 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and bodyYou twisted what she said This is a claim that you're unable to support ...because it's not true. If your claim were true, then you wouldn't spend three posts waiving your arms about and screaming "you're twisting what she said" - what you'd do is, you'd quote something from her comment and explain how I twisted it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 08:25 PM |
| 2 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and bodyYOU IGNORED WHAT SHE SAID No, I quoted it and responded to it substantively. She created a thread about attractiveness. I made some claims about attractiveness. She rejected those claims not because they aren't true in general but because she personally wouldn't want to date the men that the claims are true about. It is exactly like the analogy I offered her to help her understand her solipsism. An incel creates a thread about attractiveness, and then someone points out to him that personal hygi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 07:40 PM |
| 5 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and bodyYou deliberately ignored her third sentence I quoted her third sentence. If you disagree with something in my comment, I encourage you to articulate that disagreement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 05:40 PM |
| 6 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and bodyI have never dated a man who didn’t also find my intelligence and personality attractive. "That bartender is flirting with me because she really likes me" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 05:09 PM |
| 1 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and bodythose people exist Yep. It's called hybristophilia | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 03:35 PM |
| 4 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and bodyHow my attractiveness is viewed by men who would not consider non-physical aspects of me important is irrelevant - they’re not guys I would date so they’re external to the equation. oh my god. *facepalm* This is like an incel who's never taken a shower claiming that "actually, hygiene and grooming is irrelevant to my attractiveness because I would never date a woman who demanded I shower!" Have you ever heard the term, "solipsism?" The idea that someone would start a thread about attractiveness,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 03:33 PM |
| 1 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and bodyThe wisdom and intelligence that comes with life experience is attractive. Not necessarily life experience itself. Sure, I can agree with that. It's like pointing out that going to the gym isn't what's attractive, it's the muscles you get as a result of going to gym. I hope you'll allow me to phrase that as, "going to the gym makes men more attractive" even though yes, technically, it would be possible to go to the gym every day and just hang out and see no benefit from that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 03:25 PM |
| -1 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and bodyI don't understand why blue pillers ever bother disagreeing with me. You always lose. I'm always right. I realize that's arrogant but I have a long history on this subreddit and I keep winning the same arguments over and over again. Um, scars aren’t really attractive. Source: scars are attractive you think it’s not possible for a woman to be just [as] if not more beautiful at 30 having gained confidence, financial success and life experience Well see, again I have the science on my side here: Ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 03:19 PM |
| 11 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and bodyMoney, career, mental health are just as important for women, in terms of living a life that is as easy as possible. "in terms of living a life that is as easy as possible" is totally irrelevant to this conversation. You started a conversation about a term coined by TRP to describe women's attractiveness to men. Your purpose in starting this conversation is to apply the same logic to men ...and that's fine, let's apply the logic to men. But what you don't get to do is change the meaning of the t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 02:41 PM |
| 1 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and bodymen will also never be as attractive as they were when they were younger A 30 year old man with confidence, financial success, and life experience* is more attractive than he was a 20 years old when (let's assume for the purposes of this hypothetical) he lacked confidence, and had no success or experience. Most men do not achieve this. Most men get fat and are losers. But this is possible for men. It's not possible for women (excluding weight loss) * just to drive home the idea that "experience"… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 02:32 PM |
| 2 | Women having a dating rotation is working against women dating with marrige or long term relationships in mind.In 10 years what? I was talking to a reddit bot. You can see the reply if you click on that message. marriage is not a life goal of mine K. But here's what I said: "I'm sure you'll end up just as happy as she's going to be at 40." It's not my position that marriage will make you happy. But it is my position that certain world views preclude the possibility of happiness. Have you seen this TED talk? It's pretty old now, but I reference it here because he mentions people in prison who are happy. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 02:29 PM |
| 1 | Women having a dating rotation is working against women dating with marrige or long term relationships in mind.RemindMe! 10 years | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 01:38 PM |
| 1 | Women having a dating rotation is working against women dating with marrige or long term relationships in mind.Are you really trying to argue over semantics You should look up what that word means. because you have no argument? Here's my argument: you have no experience in obtaining marriage-level commitment from a HVM. Your only experience is getting short term boyfriends, and that's an easy thing for a woman to achieve. You should be honest about that when you give advice to other women. It should be a disclaimer on your posts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 01:35 PM |
| 2 | Women having a dating rotation is working against women dating with marrige or long term relationships in mind.marriage is not the sign that a relationship will be long lasting. I didn't say it was. What I said is that she has no experience obtaining marriage-level commitment from a HVM. It it so happens that you are looking for that from a HVM, then why would you take advice from her? It you're not looking for that - if you're looking for a string of boyfriends just like she's had, then cool - go ahead and take her advice. I'm sure you'll end up just as happy as she's going to be at 40. She's already la… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 01:26 PM |
| 3 | Women having a dating rotation is working against women dating with marrige or long term relationships in mind.Shaming me for not being married Try not to be so defensive. I'm not shaming you. I pointed out that you cannot give advice on something you have not achieved. Would I be "shaming" a virgin if I pointed out that no one should take sex advice from him? I haven’t had a “string of boyfriends”. Did you, or did you not describe your situation as, and I quote, "my current boyfriend" - the implication being there were past boyfriends and there will be future boyfriends. My characterization of you is ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 01:17 PM |
| -3 | Women having a dating rotation is working against women dating with marrige or long term relationships in mind.Dating multiple men at the same time and vetting for which one is the best is the optimal female strategy for finding a man Oh yeah? How's that strategy working out for you personally? Have you been married for at least five years? ...let me guess, you're too cool for school and ackchyually you didn't want to get married anyway because men have cooties. I see your flair says that you're a misandrist. Isn't getting dating advice from a woman who literally hates men like getting BBQ advice from a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 12:28 PM |
| 32 | What are Your Physical Deal Breakers in Guys ?If a person doesn't smell right something deep in our brains pulls the emergency brake. If you're interested in the science behind this, look into a set of genes collectively called the "histocompatibility complex" - it's related to immune function and there's evidence from studies of non-human animals of a preference for a dissimilar set of genes. In humans, these sorts of things are always more difficult to prove, but I remember a British scientist who had women smell shirts that had been worn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/21 03:08 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Only men can change the messed up dating market by having higher standardsNature means jackshit as humans. Do you think that there are any real behavioral or psychological differences between men and women? Or are all observed differences a result of culture? For example, if we observe that men, far more often than women, prefer a partner that's younger - and we observe that women, far more often than men, prefer a partner that's taller - would you say these preferences are entirely cultural constructs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/21 04:57 PM |
| 0 | Why do single men over 40 desire relationships/partners more than single women over 40?Divorced/widowed men tend to get remarried way faster than women Note that people who get married are necessarily a subset of people who want to get married. It's like how, people who drive Ferraris are a subset of those who would like to drive a Ferrari. Your statement is like saying, "rich people are more likely to drive a Ferrari." I'm sure that's true, but does that tell us anything about the preferences of poor people? The troupe "enjoy your cats you'll die alone" its such cope from bitter … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 02:57 PM |
| 3 | The Recent Victoria's Secret Brand Image Shift Is A Symptom Of Female Entitlement CMVim sure they'll get another job. *sad music playing* Sarah Mclachlan (singing): ...spend all your time waiting... image fade in: https://i.imgur.com/EbLVbwB.png announcer: for just $1500 a day, you can provide the vodka, lattes, and 8 balls these angels so desperately need | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 10:04 AM |
| 1 | Financial Abortion and deadbeat dadsPro life people are RIGHT Oh okay. I disagree with you, but you are being logically consistent and that's all I ask. Thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Financial Abortion and deadbeat dadsthe argument you’re making would allow for any one of those things anyways from a legal perspective. That's a lie. men would be thrilled to jump through those hoops to have “equal rights” but they won’t jump through the hoop of not having sex? That's the same argument pro-lifers make when they claim that women shouldn't have abortion rights. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 01:11 PM |
| 1 | What is “red pill”?Well, I can tell you that the purpose of life is struggle. You're supposed to fight and strive and prove to the universe that you're worthy. That implies that there can't be any shortcuts. There can't be any secret cheat codes. You have to work hard. However, you can and should take steps to ensure your efforts are effective. And that's really the best that TRP can do for you. The truth about human sexuality can help you to focus your efforts on things that are effective, but it can's make you 1… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 03:04 PM |
| 4 | What is “red pill”?telling men how to fuck any girl It is constantly fascinating to me how blue pillers such as yourself have to straw man TRP. You literally cannot argue against anything that is actually said in TRP by TRPers. You always have to make stuff up. And it so easy for me to find counter-examples to illustrate that you're making stuff up. Here's one: "there's no magical incantation that gets you one particular girl. It is, and always will be a numbers game. With hard work and practice, you can increase … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 01:32 PM |
| 7 | What is “red pill”?I think you need to draw a contrast with the way that blue pillers think, because after all, they're also going to claim they're seeing the world the way it really is. In my opinion, the core idea of The Blue Pill (the core lie) is Tabula Rasa, the idea that people are born as blank slates, and it is only culture and environment that makes us different. Proof that this is the way blue pillers see the world comes from the fact that the only possible explanation they will consider, when discussing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 01:25 PM |
| 3 | Financial Abortion and deadbeat dadslots of men don’t pay child support The state will compel them to pay, and put them in jail if they don't. what is your point? Women have the right to refuse to be a parent. Men do not. Why is that difficult to understand? The reality is if the father isn’t declared by the mother, if he never signed the birth certificate, if the state doesn’t know yeah, "if" and "if" and "if" Women have rights. No one can force a woman to be a parent without her consent. Men can be forced to be parents without t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 12:25 AM |
| 2 | Financial Abortion and deadbeat dadsYou are so hung up on abortion We're having a discussion that centers on abortion. It's dishonest of you to characterize that as, "you're hung up on abortion." Texas must be your holy land right now, that they have made abortion practically unavailable? No. I'm pro-choice. Here are some past comments where I've mentioned this: "I'm pro-choice" "I'm a Democrat, atheist, pro-choice" "I think abortion should be legal." "I'm not in favor of [prohibiting abortion]" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/21 12:01 PM |
| 2 | Financial Abortion and deadbeat dadsUnder what circumstances can a woman be forced to be a parent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 10:50 PM |
| 2 | Financial Abortion and deadbeat dadsWomen have the right to refuse to be a parent. Men do not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 10:26 PM |
| 2 | Financial Abortion and deadbeat dadsDid you even read the link? „lots of adoptions take place every year without the birth father ever being involved.“ Women have the right to refuse to be a parent. Men do not. There is no non-sexist reason to deny this right to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 10:11 PM |
| 2 | Financial Abortion and deadbeat dadsThis has nothing to do with sexism You're a sexist because you deign to deny to men the right to refuse to be a parent, but you support that right for women. you just fail to see the difference between a fetus and a born baby. I'm using the dictionary definition of both. If we disagree, you're just wrong. A baby can only be given up for adoption if both birthparents approve. *facepalm* why didn't you google this before claiming it? You're wrong ...again: "lots of adoptions take place every year … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 12:25 PM |
| 4 | Change my CMV: I think RedPill is correct about women's sexualityLike leaves blowing in the wind, yes. Most people follow their feelings. The first step to overcoming that is to identify the issue - to consciously say "when I enter this situation, my lizard brain is going to scream at me to do X, but I must do Y." If you don't say that ahead of time (and especially if you don't believe there are instincts for you to follow) then when the time comes, the feeling, the drive to do X will be too powerful to resist. As a practical example, think about a firefighte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 12:17 PM |
| 4 | Change my CMV: I think RedPill is correct about women's sexualityThanks. Yeah, we're all like this to some extent. We all believe that advertisements don't work on us, for example. Blue pillers are worse because they seem to deny any possibility of unconscious drives when it comes to sexuality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 05:30 AM |
| 15 | Change my CMV: I think RedPill is correct about women's sexualitynot sure how you can argue “what you think doesn’t matter!” Because it's true. People are not normally conscious of their motivations, nor are they accurately able to anticipate future behavior. I'm not the only person to understand this. I gave you three quotes of other people expressing the same sentiment. I also gave you a practical example involving food. And as you can see from the links in the previous comment, I've held this belief for some time. The scientific basis for my position comes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 04:54 AM |
| 10 | Change my CMV: I think RedPill is correct about women's sexualitydo you state these things to men Yes, of course. Why wouldn't I? Do you feel that anything I said was gendered? Because it wasn't. Would you be less defensive if you saw a comment where I told a man that the motivations of men, as a group, are governed by instinct? Because I certainly have such comments: "You're not thinking" "This is true of everyone, men and women alike" "that doesn't imply that we believe these things only apply to women" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 04:41 AM |
| 21 | Change my CMV: I think RedPill is correct about women's sexualityyou don’t care what i think? I care what you think. It's just irrelevant. If you manage to muster any sort of rebuttal to my previous comment, I'll be pleasantly surprised and happy to engage with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 03:53 AM |
| 2 | Financial Abortion and deadbeat dadsMen are not currently financially responsible for fetuses No one is financially responsible for a fetus, anymore than a person is financially responsible for a pancreas. So this is irrelevant. Women have the right to refuse to be a parent. They may exercise this right before or after a person is created. Men should have the same right. The only argument otherwise is sexist. You are a sexist. You have no valid non-sexist argument. I've easily shot down every one that you've proffered - your enthu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 03:31 AM |
| 40 | Change my CMV: I think RedPill is correct about women's sexualityi think Irrelevant. Behavior, as observed at the population level, is due to instinctive drives that are below the level of conscious, rational thought. Look, talking about sex is offensive, and it makes you defensive. You feel the need to say, "NO IM NOT LIKE THAT" - okay, let's not talk about sex for a minute. Let's talk about food. Imagine I made a claim along the lines of, "deep-rooted instincts drive humans to crave salty, sugary, unhealthy food like what's sold at McDonalds" And imagine th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 02:28 AM |
| 1 | Why do people insist that only women postpone having kids when many women risk becoming single mothers to have kids?often discussed as if it's something that is only women's fault Please provide a few examples so that I can see what you mean in context | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 10:13 PM |
| 3 | Financial Abortion and deadbeat dadsThis is like arguing that someone should be able to abort a new born baby or a 5 year old child. Nope. I'm pointing out that women currently have a right And I'm arguing that men should have that right too. Women do not have the right to abort a new born baby or a 5 year old child. Therefore, I am not arguing that men should have the right to abort a new born baby or a 5 year old child. You lost this debate because you cannot respond to the argument that I've actually made. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 01:12 PM |
| 3 | Financial Abortion and deadbeat dadsUm yes I fully support the rights of defenseless and vulnerable children over the rights of grown men. ...but not over the rights of grown women. You do want women to retain their right to refuse to be a parent. And you do persist in denying men the same right, without any rational justification - you're just a sexist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 11:24 PM |
| 4 | Can too high of a body count actually be a problem for men?I'm surprised that he kept it on paper. I wouldn't say that I have an "outsized" body count, but I have found it very helpful to have a google doc with names, dates, and other info. Sometimes you reconnect with people and it's nice to be able to jog your memory. The kind of stuff I write down is like, when's her birthday, if she likes or doesn't like particular types of food, if there are any sensitive topics to avoid. I always write down if we take a trip or stay in a hotel because believe me, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 04:04 PM |
| 5 | Financial Abortion and deadbeat dadsTechnically any person can drop a baby at a fire station not just women You expect me to believe that a man who doesn't want to be a parent can drop a child off at a fire station? You know full well that you aren't arguing in good faith here. There are natural limitations on men’s options due to biology Right, but you're in a thread where we are discussing a thought experiment in which the biological differences are nullified. And /u/Greatbadbf's whole point, which you demonstrating here, is tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 03:43 PM |
| 4 | Financial Abortion and deadbeat dadsWomen can and have been arrested for child abandonment or neglect. This is like arguing that abortion isn't legal because women can and have been arrested for doing it with coat hangers in back allies. The truth is, a woman does have the right to abortion ...she just has to follow some very reasonable guidelines like, you know, going to a clinic. And the truth is, a woman does have the right to refuse to be a parent ...she just has to follow some very reasonable guidelines like, you know, droppi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 03:01 PM |
| 8 | Financial Abortion and deadbeat dadssuppose a woman had an abortion and the fetus somehow survived—this is rare but has happened—if that fetus is born a baby the woman can no longer “abort” the child Oops! Turns out you're wrong! https://i.imgur.com/stCFH7P.jpg See, /u/Greatbadbf is asking about a hypothetical where the right to bodily autonomy is preserved (the fetus is removed from the woman) but the right to refuse to be a parent is taken away. ...and you just claimed (falsely) that the current situation is, once the baby is bo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 02:40 PM |
| 1 | “Stop withholding sex if you want a relationship” is not advice that is geared toward helping you find a relationship.The requirements for you and for him might be different. That’s just how it is. Yep. Like I said, life is not fair. And like I said, women are allowed to be unfair. Would you agree or disagree with the following statement: participating in an arrangement that treats you unfairly constitutes a lack of self respect So for example, if your employer pays you less than an identical coworker and tells you, "lol life's unfair" - if you continue to work there, it shows a lack of self respect. With the c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 01:50 PM |
| 1 | “Stop withholding sex if you want a relationship” is not advice that is geared toward helping you find a relationship.Yeah, notice what your reply didn't say. You didn't say that you were seeing the latter. So okay, this is fine, but just so we're clear, we are talking about the former sentiment. I'm just trying to help you construct a PPD post that isn't yet another straw man. Because look, you just did it again! Women are allowed *facepalm* nobody is saying they aren't "allowed" - any more than a woman whose policy is, "a man who wants to date me has is expected to pay for diner" is saying, "men aren't allowe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 11:35 AM |
| 4 | “Stop withholding sex if you want a relationship” is not advice that is geared toward helping you find a relationship.Yeah. I think what you're going to find is that men advise women to not change the rules. If you choose to be promiscuous, and you give sex to men for ...well, for nothing, for no commitment or anything else - then you can't suddenly raise the price when you're 35 and desperate. This is a simple question of fairness. If you find a woman who has never been promiscuous, I don't think you'll see many men advising her to be promiscuous in the hopes of a relationship. That doesn't make any sense. I s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 03:55 AM |
| 0 | “Stop withholding sex if you want a relationship” is not advice that is geared toward helping you find a relationship.This is often said I don't believe you. Please link me to a few examples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 01:26 AM |
| 3 | FDS being as large as it is shows how out of touch some women are and that doesn’t help get women results.TRP doesn’t cater to women. No, you misunderstand. The claim (and it's true) is that TRP advises men to change things about themselves in order to be attractive to women. The other user phrased that as, "cater to women" - he means, "do things that attract women" And I thought you understood it that way because you replied (and this is also true), "women don't need to attract men" So the exchange makes perfect sense to me: him: TRP teaches me how to attract women, why doesn't FDS do the same? you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 07:32 PM |
| 15 | FDS being as large as it is shows how out of touch some women are and that doesn’t help get women results.To attract men, women just need to be pretty and pleasant Okay, but does FDS ever actually say that? I mean, can you even find a single comment or thread where they advise women to pleasant? Because I can find comments advising against it And don't even get me started on the "pretty" bit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 07:25 PM |
| 1 | FDS being as large as it is shows how out of touch some women are and that doesn’t help get women results.No woman on earth has problems attracting men Agreed. But let's do a thought experiment. Imagine you find a HVM. He's everything you've dreamed of. He's a top 0.01% guy. You've "attracted" him in the sense that he is willing to put his penis inside your vagina. Great. How do you plan to keep him? If this man is a "high value" man then by definition, that means this man is also desired by other women. In fact, there's a line of women around the block willing to have sex with him. Why should he st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 07:18 PM |
| 0 | Would you still support abortion in the following sci fi scenario, why or why not?When you post a comment, do you ever think about what the reply is going to be? Seems like you could take a moment to think ahead and avoid having your comments so easily dismantled. Men on this sub love to bang on about how men do and achieve everything in the world. ok. They make the rules nope. You can't find any examples of (red pilled) men claiming that men "make the rules" (in this context, meaning laws). In fact, it's easy for me to find examples of men saying the exact opposite: Men don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Would you still support abortion in the following sci fi scenario, why or why not?An alternative way to separate the issue of bodily autonomy from the right to refuse to be a parent (suggested by /u/whisper in this thread) is: require any woman who gets an abortion to adopt a child, or to pay child support for a randomly-selected orphan. The point of this exercise, as I see it, is that women actually get two favorable outcomes from the right to abortion: (1) bodily autonomy. No one can force her to carry a fetus. (2) the right to refuse to be a parent. No one can force her to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 02:10 PM |
| 5 | Seems like men are wanting a woman with a low N count who will sleep with him on the second date...wait, what?Please link me to an example of a man stating this is what he wants? If you can’t do that, consider the possibility that what most men actually want is consistent rules. That is to say, if a woman has a history of sex on the first date, they object to her establishing a different rule for him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 11:34 AM |
| 0 | CMV: social media and online dating have completely destroyed the dating market, it cannot be repairedZero evidence here. That seems to be a pattern with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 11:17 AM |
| 5 | CMV: social media and online dating have completely destroyed the dating market, it cannot be repairedWell, that would be congruent with how we’re seeing women behave. And that’s properly gender-flipped, in that it flips the gender role (sex vs. commitment). Interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 01:05 AM |
| 42 | CMV: social media and online dating have completely destroyed the dating market, it cannot be repairedYeah that’s called the paradox of choice. I think it’s a well known psychological phenomenon Are men’s expectations inflated though? I haven’t seen evidence of that. Ive seen many examples of, ugly-woman-with-list-of-demands and I’ve seen the various catfishing experiments and the tinder data that all show women are picky. Is there evidence this applies to men too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 10:24 PM |
| 2 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingDon't blame others for your inability to articulate your thoughts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 03:38 PM |
| 2 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingApparently 47 percent of young men aren't fucking. k. But what does that have to do with /u/miketrance's comment which read: "High status men have always had standards for who they marry. This is nothing new and it isn’t going to change anything for the simps out there." I responded: "one thing that keeps the carousel spinning is the pool of beta-bucks willing to marry women at 30 when they're finished partying like rock stars." Does your comment have anything to do with that?? Nope. Hmm. Litera… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 10:33 AM |
| 3 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingthe men getting married to these women are beta true the remaining men ... are mostly sexless. so, you think people only have sex after they get married. Are you accessing reddit from 1950? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 10:55 PM |
| 1 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingI guess you hit reply on the wrong comment, because there's nothing in your comment that has anything at all to do with my comment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 09:57 PM |
| 1 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingsorry, I'm not following you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 07:45 PM |
| 15 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingIn her defense, I posed a hypothetical in which there are no beta simps. If I can engage in a flight of fantasy, then we must allow her the same privilege. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 07:44 PM |
| 1 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingCan you point to even a single example of this desire [no, I cannot] I see. That's what I thought. you’re comparing women to cars No, I'm not. Do you really not understand how analogies work?? "The relationship between (A) and (B) is like the relationship between (C) and (D)" zOMg yOUR comPARing a 2 C???? no, I'm saying the relationship between (A) and (B) is like the relationship between (C) and (D). I'm comparing the relationship not the items themselves. "a computer's CPU is like a company's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 07:42 PM |
| 1 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingMost of you in the sub do not want to commit, unless she’s a doormat. Can you point to even a single example of this desire, which you claim is held by most people in this sub? You guys still won’t stop chasing them. That's like finding an article with the title, "people don't want to purchase used sports cars" and then saying, "you guys wont stop test driving them!!" If someone offered you a ferrari for the weekend, you would absolutely take it out, drive it fast, do doughnuts or whatever. What… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 03:30 PM |
| 26 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingWell, one thing that keeps the carousel spinning is the pool of beta-bucks willing to marry women at 30 when they're finished partying like rock stars. Blue pilled men have traditionally accepted this arrangement by, well, by being blue pilled; by repeating the lie that the past doesn't matter. If you imagine a world where no man would marry a non-virgin, women's behavior would definitely change. I don't actually see that world materializing though. This is just a thought experiment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 03:18 PM |
| 2 | New Data from the Telegraph indicate that levels of sexlessness among young men are still steadily increasing, just 34% of male University students report being sexually active while studying at University and 43% report never having had sex.I'm not triggered by your word choice, but you might also have phrased it as, "monopolizing the time of" The underlying phenomenon here, and I haven't seen anyone in this thread who seems to get it, has two factors: (1) hypergamy. This is the natural and perfectly rational tendency of women to focus only on the top few males. Hypergamy is a feature of natural selection. It's not a bug ...of course, what used to happen among our ancestors is that hypergamy was balanced by a woman's need to monopo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 03:09 PM |
| 2 | Do you think prior sexlessness is a common reason as to why some men might prefer younger women?Why wouldn’t anyone agree with you? I know, right! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 05:53 AM |
| 5 | Do you think prior sexlessness is a common reason as to why some men might prefer younger women?Cool story. Here's what I would accept as proof: a survey of randomly-selected heterosexual women, repeated each year (or periodically) over the course of a decade, that asked participants to rate a number of men, including celebrities. If my claim is correct, some male celebrities who are rated each year will increase in rank, particularly if they are ascendent in their career. If you're correct, all male celebrities will decrease in rank. And I suppose, since you didn't object, you agree with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/21 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Do you think prior sexlessness is a common reason as to why some men might prefer younger women?Older women: be feminine. If there was such a thing as "girl game" it would have as its object, inculcating feelings of love in a man. I'm constantly amazed that women haven't figured this out and started a movement along these lines. Be feminine --> get a man to love you --> obtain the commitment you desire. Women are very interested in sexuality. They show off their body. That's great, but all that gets you from men is sexual interest. After sex, it doesn't keep the man around. That's the prob… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/21 01:32 PM |
| 3 | Do you think prior sexlessness is a common reason as to why some men might prefer younger women?I never understand this argument. I didn't make an argument. If I make an argument, I'll link you to the science which shows that women place a higher value on attributes like status ...attributes which may increase with age. In other words, if I make an argument, I'll explain to you the mechanism behind this aspect of human sexuality. You could say the exact same for men I disagree with you here. But it's possible the reason for our disagreement is that you haven't understood my challenge. I me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/21 01:09 PM |
| 14 | Do you think prior sexlessness is a common reason as to why some men might prefer younger women?Yeah. I was going to ask if anyone could provide a single example of a woman who was more attractive at 30 than she had been at 20 (barring cases where she lost weight) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/21 11:50 AM |
| 3 | [CMV] Red Pill is an elaborate ritual to gain self esteem but ultimately a placeboI am genuinely trying to understand what is "core red pill belief" "The Red Pill" as a concept, taken from the movie The Matrix, refers to a desire to know the truth about how the world works, even if that truth is painful and ugly. TRP as a subreddit, is a group that believes that what we're taught by mainstream (largely feminist) society about human sexuality is inaccurate and unhelpful. Specifically, it is inherent in the feminist worldview that men and women are mostly identical, and that th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 10:05 PM |
| 3 | [CMV] Red Pill is an elaborate ritual to gain self esteem but ultimately a placeboI don't know if this is some intimidation tactic If you're intimidated by words on a screen then dating is going to be a rough time for you. Be a good creepy stalker If I notice that you criticize something without ever actually linking to it so that we can know what you're criticizing in context, how exactly is that "creepy" as opposed to, you know, keeping you honest. Here's the question I asked you: "If not, why not?" So do you have an answer? Please explain to me why you would ever criticize… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 07:13 PM |
| 5 | [CMV] Red Pill is an elaborate ritual to gain self esteem but ultimately a placeboDo you think anyone here actually is arguing against the three points you made? I think the blue pillers here have no clue what they’re arguing about. This post is a great example. There are zero links to examples of what he has a problem with. It’s vague. “TRP says...” oh? Does it? Then why didn’t you link to it so I could see what it says in context and have a discussion? What about you? I’m on mobile right now but when I get back to a computer I’m going to check your comment history. Have you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Men develop theories and rules about women’s behavior because that’s the way men understand social situations.you aren’t on a let’s bitch about the opposite sex sub. Okay first of all, that's a dishonest characterization of what I described. What I said (and I'm right) is that a group of men talking about dating will necessarily be talking about things that women do, since they are encountering women doing those things. Just like how a group of women talking about dating will be talking about men. For you to call that "bitching" is for you to mischaracterize what I said. Secondly, you're on the debate s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Men develop theories and rules about women’s behavior because that’s the way men understand social situations.the hyper focus How are you measuring that? How do you know that your perception for how common something is discussed isn't simply a result of confirmation bias? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 05:56 PM |
| 3 | Men develop theories and rules about women’s behavior because that’s the way men understand social situations.You've probably heard the term, "solipsism." It refers to the belief that one's own point of view is the only possible point of view. I think the person you're talking to is demonstrating that. She is interested in excluding men, so she assumes men are doing the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 11:58 AM |
| 2 | Men develop theories and rules about women’s behavior because that’s the way men understand social situations.I'll answer for them: "I want to believe" Here's my answer: these two methods of understand each had strengths and weaknesses, and each are appropriate for certain purposes, and inappropriate in others. Systemizing is how traditional marketing works. You develop a theory of what people truly respond to, and you put that in your advertisements. You ignore what people predict they will respond to, not because you believe they're lying, but because you believe they aren't conscious of their true mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 11:54 AM |
| 2 | Men develop theories and rules about women’s behavior because that’s the way men understand social situations.why do people discount what women say? The way you've phrased that sentence reveals a bit of personal defensiveness. "people discount what women say" as if this is only done to women. The truth is, all people (both men and women) are notoriously bad at explaining their own behavior, much less at predicting future behavior. For example, most everyone will predict that they're going to exercise and eat healthy. But do they? Uh, no. And if you're developing a business strategy, will you be more suc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 11:34 AM |
| 5 | Men develop theories and rules about women’s behavior because that’s the way men understand social situations.women exclude more than men…without systemizing This is a fascinating exchange. The person you're talking to seems incapable of conceptualizing "systemizing" except as a way of excluding people. TRP uses systemizing to discover women's preferences in order to develop or accentuate qualities in ourselves that meet those preferences ...and become attractive to women. We use it to attract women. But the person you're talking to seems fixated on the (false) belief that it's used to exclude women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 11:01 AM |
| 2 | Men develop theories and rules about women’s behavior because that’s the way men understand social situations.People aren’t things I'd love to hear you explain exactly what you think that statement means, in the context of this discussion. And BTW, we could have this same discussion about marketing and advertisements, instead of about dating. What exactly are advertisers doing? They are developing a theory about how people will respond to certain types of ads - they're systemizing. And then you come along and say, "people aren't things" (which I take to mean, "one cannot use systemizing to understand hu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 10:57 AM |
| 2 | Men develop theories and rules about women’s behavior because that’s the way men understand social situations.It’s not that you’re on to something and understand women, you’re just doing what you’re comfortable with and capable of. I just want to point out that it cracks me up that OP phrases this as though these two things are mutually exclusive. So it's like, TRP develops advice based on our "systemization" of women. One example of our advice is: "women tend to find confident men attractive, so make an effort to be more confident." Then OP says, "it's not that your theory is actually true, it's just t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 10:49 AM |
| 7 | Men develop theories and rules about women’s behavior because that’s the way men understand social situations.think their special and think stats/facts are irrelevant to their lives . Two people meet and begin having a casual conversation. "So what do you do" asks one. "I'm in marketing" says the other, "over the years, I've been very successful in using ads to convince people to buy my products." The inevitable reply: "ha! Advertisements don't work on me! Your techniques only work on other people." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 10:26 AM |
| 1 | You shouldn't spend any money on a girl before you've slept with her (with minimal exception)I quoted several people saying what I was arguing Uh no. You're arguing, "TRP believes (A)" and you linked to comments that said, "not (A)" once she is no longer hot she's ugly in the eyes of RPers. LOL! A new claim! Let me guess, if I ask you to support this one, you'll link me to TRPers saying the exact opposite and imagine you've proven your point! If you guys could get women 30 and up none of you would be making a whole fus over the wall and actually be talking about getting women over 30. f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 04:09 PM |
| 2 | You shouldn't spend any money on a girl before you've slept with her (with minimal exception)what strawman? your claim was "TRP believes (A)" and then you quoted someone saying, "not (A)" That's a strawman. That graph is supporting what I am getting at. Which is after 30 the woman is no longer considered attractive by RPers. the graph you linked to shows a woman remaining attractive until she's almost 40. So no, it doesn't support your claim. if TRP tactics worked on older women no one in TRP would be claiming men only want 20 year old women *facepalm* - so TRPers are secretly attracted… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 12:20 PM |
| 1 | You shouldn't spend any money on a girl before you've slept with her (with minimal exception)Okay. Thanks for replying and attempting to substantiate your claim. Your claim was: "once women turn 30 they magically become ugly according to TRP." And here's your first example: It means you see a steep decrease in smv. ie you become ugly Literally the first sentence in the first source you cite says, "The wall doesn't mean you aren't hot." So, you looked at /u/XtoDoubt's comment that says "not (A)" and then you presented that comment as an example of someone saying "(A)" - that's amazing. H… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 06:24 AM |
| 1 | You shouldn't spend any money on a girl before you've slept with her (with minimal exception)I am not surprised you aren't asking for citations because you know it is true. I'm not asking for citations because so far, no blue piller has ever provided me with a citation to support the thing they claim TRP believes. And I ask for this all the time: example 1 example 2 example 3 example 4 example 5 example 6 example 7 example 8 example 9 example 10 example 11 example 12 example 13 oh and just for fun, here are a couple of examples of me being able to provide exemplars of the things I claim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 02:45 AM |
| 1 | You shouldn't spend any money on a girl before you've slept with her (with minimal exception)[One's attractiveness] isn't solely about looks though. And yet, the following statement is true: "you cannot find a woman who is more attractive (as judged by a majority of men) at 40 than she was at 20" Is it not? Do you have even one counterexample? once women turn 30 they magically become well ugly according to TRP. In my opinion, that's a straw man of the TRP position. I'm sorry that not everyone in every subreddit is as articulate as I'd like them to be. I'm aware that there are idiots who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 12:05 PM |
| 1 | You shouldn't spend any money on a girl before you've slept with her (with minimal exception)Well, I wanted to understand you before I presented a rebuttal. That's an important part of an honest dialog. If you think "the wall" means (A) and I think it means (B) and I present an argument that (B) is real, how does that help either of us? Here's what I think the wall means: the degree to which a woman is attractive to men necessarily declines as she ages, and this is in contrast to the situation men face, where their attractiveness may decline (or you could even say likely declines) but m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 02:14 PM |
| 1 | You shouldn't spend any money on a girl before you've slept with her (with minimal exception)the post 30 wall If you were asked to steel man the concept, what would you say? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 04:28 PM |
| 1 | You shouldn't spend any money on a girl before you've slept with her (with minimal exception)They think they are worth it I was about to reply to this and say that they don't understand the difference between SMV and MMV, and that because they experience men propositioning them (for sex) they assume that means they could marry any one of those men. But I wasn't sure if that was the case (that they don't understand) so I went and searched for "market" in their sub and found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/k4crv1/your_value_on_the_market_will_not_decline_with_… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 01:00 PM |
| 0 | You shouldn't spend any money on a girl before you've slept with her (with minimal exception)Thanks. And BTW, I understand why women (FDS types) will say "I wont go out with you unless you drop $200 on dinner" They say that because they're tired of sleeping with dudes and then getting ghosted. I get that. I really do. But here's the thing: you're tired of that happening because you let it happen in the past. And if you let it happen in the past - if you set the "price of sex" to a low value, then that's the price. If you try to make me pay a higher price, then you're treating me like a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 07:32 PM |
| 14 | You shouldn't spend any money on a girl before you've slept with her (with minimal exception)> he doesn't want to be taken advantage of by someone who never really liked him > that must mean he's bad in bed Yeah. Q.E.D. Flawless logic. Also, when you get those calls that start with, "we've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty" - if you don't call them back that proves you're a reckless driver for some reason. FWIW I avoid this issue entirely by not asking girls out "on a date" - that is to say, I don't approach them that way. I frequently ask girls out to festival… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 05:28 PM |
| 62 | Friendzone Fiona laments being nothing more than a sex object to fuckboys.See, that's just called being an adult. YOU are responsible for setting boundaries and for ensuring that your needs are met in any relationship. This isn't even a male/female sex, dating, whatever - exclusive issue. This applies to all relationships. It applies to your male friends, and it applies to your job. If you have a male friend who is always taking - who always needs something, that's cool, help him out a bit. Be a good friend to him. But make sure you call him when you need help putting… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 15/05/21 01:12 PM |
| 86 | Friendzone Fiona laments being nothing more than a sex object to fuckboys.being manipulated into an emotional connection wut? "I developed feelings for you ...that's you manipulating me!" Can friendzoned beta males use this logic?? Can they claim women are in the wrong because men crush on them?? | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 15/05/21 12:53 PM |
| 2 | Newly single and low N-count but already heading down the path. Does she sleep with the guy she's been on 7 dates with and spends all day with or the rando she just met and will never see again?I'm not interested in competing to get a woman. Well ... alrighty then | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 05/05/21 08:18 PM |
| 8 | Newly single and low N-count but already heading down the path. Does she sleep with the guy she's been on 7 dates with and spends all day with or the rando she just met and will never see again?You're right. It's important for every man to have basic knowledge of human sexuality - the truth - what we call "the red pill." Every man should learn this stuff regardless of his intention to "spin plates" or whatever. I just want to point out that there's a difference between knowledge and experience. If you think that one day in the future you might possibly want to make use of that knowledge, you really do have to practice today. Because see, game is a subtle art. You wont become proficient… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 05/05/21 02:12 PM |
| 10 | This woman is 44 years old and still doesn't get it. The guy in more than half he pictures is just her "best friend", but she's in denial about him being her partner cause she thinks she can do better. And she has a list of demands that she should of asked for 20 years ago.best friend Doesn't even have to be a "best friend" - if there's a guy in the social circle with your girl and her girlfriends, chances are that guy has fucked all the girls in the circle. You can be that guy yourself if you just simply refuse to commit. That's basically the secret sauce. If you hop into relationship mode then, when the relationship ends, which it will, you might still be able to fuck one or two of her girlfriends but you wont be invited to parties anymore because you're the guy… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 03/05/21 12:54 PM |
| 64 | 35F wants to know why men only want her for a FWB arrangement. I wonder.... 🤔my sisters in their 20s get all the attention from men that's true, but I can definitely understand why women fail in life and end up asking "where are all the good men" At 20, you're faced with the paradox of choice. Nearly every man on Earth is interested in you. What should you do? The path that seems oh so obvious is to filter by attractiveness. If 30,000 men are available to you on OLD, what's the harm in eliminating everyone under 6' tall? That still leaves 6000 men! Still too many. What's… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 28/04/21 07:11 PM |
| 2 | Fat, Purple-Haired, BLM, Cat-Lady, Wall-Hitting 39-Year Old seeking immediate marriage and 2 - 4 kids within 10 years. Who's going to explain the biology of pregnancy to her?Well let me ask you this: how many B-17s could you shoot down with 1,430 Me 262's? Enough to make a difference? I don't know. Maybe. How many bombs could you drop with those Me 262s, given that you're dropping one per flight? I don't know, but I know it's not enough to make a difference. Seems like a good strategist would choose the former. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 27/04/21 07:07 PM |
| 3 | Had one of the best first date sex experiences on Saturday and the girl was so enthusiastic in bed that we basically wanted to eat each other. We are both highly attracted to each other.Should I make her wait to create dread Why would that help you, given the way she's currently acting? Keep in mind that RP knowledge is a set of tools. Just because you have it in your toolkit that doesn't mean you need to use it every time. It's like how a hammer can break stuff if you just run around hitting things at random, so don't do that. "Dread game" is a tool for correcting a situation where you're being taken for granted. That said, you have some good instincts here. "Making her wait" … | /r/askTRP | 19/04/21 12:34 PM |
| 7 | [UPDATE] I think my gf is cheating on meI just want to point out that if you'd helped a brother out, you'd have a loyal friend and when this girl cheated on you (which would still have happened) and you told your guy friend about it, he would say something like, "fuck it man, the clubs here are open, let's go get you laid" | /r/askTRP | 19/04/21 10:38 AM |
| 9 | Girl didn't bring money to dateI was just watching this Aba and Preach video (which will likely be banned by youtube in a day or so) and they said Quebec is not only under lockdown, but they have fucking 8 PM curfews. lol. | /r/askTRP | 09/04/21 03:49 PM |
| 70 | Girl didn't bring money to dateWell shit man, sounds like you're doing everything as best you can. Don't beat yourself up even though it's frustrating. Sometimes, there's no possible right way to be successful in a situation - I mean, even if that was your groundhog day and you could try 10,000 different approaches, maybe none of them work. Just have to try a different girl. that said: this was the 2nd spot we went to. a little bit of "pull" here might have worked in your favor (pull meaning that you back away from her, imply… | /r/askTRP | 09/04/21 02:36 PM |
| 186 | Girl didn't bring money to dateWhy did you take her out for dinner? Did you have a good time up to that point? It's tough to run game while sitting across the table from a girl in a restaurant. The whole setting is more like a job interview than a mating dance. So did you actually enjoy it? Sitting there, talking about bullshit? The best thing to do on a date is a live music venue. Crowds and loud noise get women keyed up and you allow you opportunities to exercise a little game on them (by dancing, for example). Baring that,… | /r/askTRP | 09/04/21 01:46 PM |
| 2 | 28, 3 kids, “recent gym rat”, expensive Lexus. Father her kids or keep scrolling!I've had a lot of good experiences with meetup.com. To be clear though, I never went to a meetup trying to pick up chicks. It's just to make friends. Cultivate an active social circle where you're getting invited to parties and such, and that's where you'll be introduced to actual quality women. I've also had a lot of good experiences hitting up volunteer organizations, and (this may not apply to you give your age) donating to the arts. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 03/04/21 03:05 PM |
| 10 | Women spend thousands of dollars a year on "beauty" treatments so they can slow down the aging process. Of course men need to pay for it because patriarchy. Enjoy the weekend!24k on a car? Who would spend that much on a car Aldabruzzo is no fool! He has the engine-out service for his 355 spider done at the Ferrari dealer! | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 02/04/21 03:51 PM |
| 6 | 🤡 "I broke up with the one guy that would contribute all the effort and money in the relationship and now I can't find another one?This thread is still on their front page, and I was curious what the answer to: is it ever worth it to try to guide them into an upgrade? Something like "I don't consider that to be a date" or "I'm accustomed to being invited to dinner," etc.? would be. Here's the top comment: I would not tell them what you consider to be acceptable. They just use this information and not to yours or any other woman's advantage. They either know what's decent or they don't. It's not our job to teach them. So, th… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 01/04/21 02:05 PM |
| 2 | “LVM with money” AKA - Not spending any on her.Yes, "you're a TRPer" would definitely be poisoning the well. Usually they just scurry off, but in the example above, I did get "argument by ridicule" in the form of telling me I spent too much time typing a reply. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 31/03/21 01:38 PM |
| 6 | “LVM with money” AKA - Not spending any on her.Sure. Some subs directly link to their content and reddit shows them that through the "other discussions" tab, and the brave ones will wander in defend FDS. In one recent case, the FDSer made the claim that, "half of FDS is just great advice for women" - so okay, I went to the sub, sorted by top-posts-this-month, and pulled the top 10. Only one of them was good advice, and the advice was, "get a man who pays attention to you." Which, okay sure, I can get behind that. As an exercise I did the sam… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 31/03/21 01:28 PM |
| 8 | “LVM with money” AKA - Not spending any on her.there is a handbook from these retards? Yep. Yesterday an FDSer referenced the handbook to tell me I was wrong about something. I linked to her to it and said that the thing she was claiming was in there ...wasn't in there. Today I see her account is suspended. Wonder what crimes she committed. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 30/03/21 09:48 PM |
| 8 | Is it just me, or is a "top 20% male" simply a self-respecting, normal, healthy man with his life together?I've seen a multitude of posts on here that go something like, "...If you're not Chad you no get pussy bro!" Bullshit. Prove it. Link to these multiple posts. | /r/askTRP | 27/03/21 11:57 AM |
| 1 | Women, what makes you decide to be more assertive towards some men versus others? Even if both are attractive to you?I didn't say degree. I said education. Large difference. Please explain the large difference to me. You're talking about a university education, right? You're not talking about someone who reads books and is really smart. If you met a guy who seemed really smart, then you met an identical guy who was really smart and had a university education would you not prefer the guy with the university education? They are identical except for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/21 12:44 AM |
| 1 | Women, what makes you decide to be more assertive towards some men versus others? Even if both are attractive to you?you don't speak for all men That's true. But you complained that some men say they don't care about your degree. I agree with your observation - I think it's virtually all men, in fact (and as an aside, I think many of those who would say "wow it's so hot that you have a degree in ...whatever" are lying in an attempt to flatter you). I don't claim to speak for all men but I do have an explanation for those men you encounter who tell you honestly that your degree is not among the traits they cons… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/21 10:45 PM |
| 1 | Women, what makes you decide to be more assertive towards some men versus others? Even if both are attractive to you?You still think I compared a video game to a college degree? I compared the way men feel about something to the way women feel about something. The entire point is that the feelings are important (and similar) and the something is not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/21 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Women, what makes you decide to be more assertive towards some men versus others? Even if both are attractive to you?you're comparing liking movies or video games to a woman's LITERAL VALUES nope, that's not how analogies work. It's so disappointing that I have to explain this. I am not comparing a video game to a college degree. I am comparing the way that men feel, to the way that women feel. What I was trying to help you understand (and again, it is so, so disappointing that you didn't get this) is that a man shouldn't complain if a woman isn't interested in or attracted to something that is important to hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/21 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Women, what makes you decide to be more assertive towards some men versus others? Even if both are attractive to you?I have a lot to offer and if he's with me then he probably likes what I bring to the table. No doubt. That's great, good for you. I noticed a post you made where you said: You hear it all the time in the manosphere "men don't care about your education, goals, hobbies, etc" as if it somehow makes them less shallow. Consider this: if you met a LVM and he bragged to you that he is really good at some video game, and he bragged to you that he's a big fan of some movie, what are you going to say? You… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/21 04:04 PM |
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