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They’ll live together for the few months before he goes back in, probably only long enough to have two or three domestic violence incidents.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/18 11:34 AM
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If none of your ancestors didn’t feel an innate need to care and nurture their young, you wouldn’t be around, birth control is irrelevant to that need encoded into your very being.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 05:02 PM
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Everyone of your ancestors since the creation of life itself has been like us.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 04:38 PM
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I’m not trying to convince you, I’m just telling you things you already know is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 04:20 PM
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I’ve enjoyed every minute of it. Everything you buy will always be dead. The only thing that will be left when you’re gone is your sadness. A piece of me will be here forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 04:14 PM
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It’s in your blood to like them. Every organism in your ancestral tree over billions of years has liked them. It’s not people convincing themselves they like them, that’s in their nature. You’re trying to convince yourself you don’t, and that’s an argument you’ll never really win. It’s in you deeper than your consciousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 04:00 PM
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It’s cool if you think that kind of hollow emptiness of consumerism and drug filled haziness is the best you can do. It just makes me feel bad for you that you’ll never know true happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 03:56 PM
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You earned whatever drugs you can find too, but having children is literally what you’re born to do. It’s a happiness you’ll never find with buying stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 02:14 PM
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Yeah and that kind of materialist happiness, while better than pills, is still empty and fleeting compared to looking into the eyes of a spouse and children that truly love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 01:29 PM
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Doesn’t have to be god. However you were made, it’s clear what your purpose is, and it’s not buying shot you don’t need.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 11:32 PM
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Some happiness is better than others. The happiness you get from accomplishing something is a better happiness than the kind in pill form.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 11:31 PM
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Finally someone’s found real purpose in life, to buy and consume!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 02:24 PM
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I am bemused when I see wealthy guys who are still working every day and trying to make more money, even though they could easily invest what they have and create an extremely comfortable income. This is neither healthy nor natural, it is a product of the existing culture. This is absolutely healthy and natural. Look throughout history. Sargon Of Akkad conquered far more land than he needed to as did Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, and Genghis Khan. The drive to do shit like that is what mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 04:58 PM
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I am attracted to beta behavior Proceeds to list beta behaviors she's not attracted to wat?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 04:13 PM
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I'm just saying, your value as a person doesn't depend on providing sex or children, but it does effect your value as a relationship partner to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 02:00 AM
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Again we are talking about misogyny here. Really? It sounds like you're going on about bedsheets, not sure what that has to do with misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 09:22 PM
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Most Islamic countries don't force women to wear a burqa. I'm not that versed in Sharia law, so I'm not sure if it's "legally required" or if it's just ok to rape you while you're not wearing it, but functionally, what's the difference? Point is, it's a very broad population. Not that broad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 08:26 PM
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The fact that more black men tend to be convicted of rape easily destroys whatever argument you're trying to make here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 07:28 PM
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she must provide kids and sex to be a person? No, but many people aren't going to get in a committed relationship with you if you don't provide sex or children. That doesn't mean they think you are subhuman, hell many would probably gladly be friends with you if you're fun to hang out with, but a committed relationship revolves around sex and making a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 07:20 PM
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TRP realizes that it's easier to change yourself than it is to change others. TRP is about making yourself successful in the world we're actually in rather than whining and wishing about the way the world should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 07:08 PM
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Any of them that follow the Quran
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 02:22 PM
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If Catholics or Jews had opinions like this worldwide I would absolutely make the same blanket questions and have just as unfavorable opinion of their religions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 01:54 PM
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I haven't seen TRP come out in favor of the death penalty for apostasy, homosexuality, or being a woman and not wearing a bedsheet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 01:49 PM
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I don't really know another way to phrase it and I'm interested in hearing the responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 11:32 PM
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We have RPW and plenty of contributors of a variety of nationalities and ethnicities, Muslims tend to be middle eastern, black or southeast Asian.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 09:48 PM
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I would phrase it as "the nice guy is submissive while the guy that gets sex is more dominant". "Confidence" is just a more PC way of saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 02:00 PM
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If men are mostly about looks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 01:26 PM
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So your question is: If men are mostly about looks why is there barely any storyline in porn? Aren't you answering your own question?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 04:22 PM
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It's not. I'm saying if they were happy we wouldn't be able to convince them they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 02:40 AM
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No, they were happy in the blue pill. Were they? If they were then why would they believe what we say? Now you've told them they're losers whose wives are secretly not attracted to them. If they were really happy they'd brush it off. We just give them the warning signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 11:46 PM
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So what about the vast majority of beta men? Why do we have to care about them? No one else does. We at least offer them a path to improve their life. Maybe it still sucks, but at least it sucks less than what it would have been without our advice. You're acting like we're making these people depressed, they were like that already.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 11:37 PM
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My question is, what is it about the modern left (or historical left) that puts you off? I like the historical left. FDR is my favorite president. What I dislike is the current issues the left focuses on. I don't think doubling the minimum wage is a good idea, it's too much, $10 is fine. I also think it's ridiculous that unskilled illegal immigrants are getting into the US easier than the skilled (and proportionally less criminal) immigrants that have to go through a shitload of hoops the fair w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 11:35 PM
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high T masculine men You keep saying that, but there is a normal T range. There are high T masculine men to protect them from other high T masculine men. It's a dominance hierarchy, it's not necessarily hormones. Pretending every exception is too small to be counted just proves you don't actually have any answers No, we have normal answers for normal people YMMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 11:19 PM
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Why don't you explain those who want to freely explore the world, make friends from other "tribes", and are quick to criticize their country's mistakes? I explain them as people who are still ultimately under the protection of some government's military and police. It's curious how many men don't want to dominate, and how many women don't want to be submissive. Especially given the success of 50 Shades I'm not sure what you are talking about, 50 shades had a dominant man and a submissive woman, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:07 PM
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Women have one extremely important common feature with bonobo females - concealed ovulation. First off, bonobos do not have concealed ovulation, their genitals swell, in fact they have significantly larger swelling than chimps(Bonobo swellings are larger than those of chimpanzees, particularly in the ventral region, and they have a relatively more prominent clitoris). Bonobos also have less sexual dimorphism than chimps, human level of sexual dimorphism is closer to that of bonobos than chimps. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 02:19 PM
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hehe YOU are going to EXPLAIN the differences, when the genomes of each are still being studied and new things are being found all the time? Didn't you see the link I put originally? That's human genetic information compared to that of a bonobo and a chimp. Apparently relationshipdownvote can unravel all by himself the genetic heritage of humans, bonobos and chimps that scientists themselves state they are still unravelling. We don't know exactly what we have in common or different or what it me…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 12:43 AM
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you're projecting your emotions onto two people That kind of the point of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 12:26 AM
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And I'm simply saying we take elements from both Ok, then name some people that aren't citizens of a country, effectively a tribe? Very few people have ever existed that weren't part of a tribe while a lot of people lived in tribes for all of recorded human history. In addition to that we have a whole history of war and inter-tribe violence. You really don't even try to argue with my first two points, those being that we share more genetic info with chimps than bonobos or that our shared ancesto…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 11:13 PM
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You're painting humans as a one size fits all collection of instincts I'm talking about whether we have more in common with chimps or bonobos. you completely ignore those who successfully reject narrow tribal affiliations Ok. Name some people that aren't a citizen of a country. You're also obsessed with painting any gender nonconformity as a rare medical condition. Things like transsexuals and people who like to get their balls stepped on are rare. Not much point in debating someone who refuses …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 10:31 PM
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I know it offends your faith that some people are the reverse of your sacred traditional gender roles. Doesn't bother me at all. But if we're looking in to the functionality and evolution of the human arm, we're not going to bother with the 1 guy out of a billion who's born with no elbow. There are people who have sex with each other just for fun Wait, why do you think chimps do it? A sense of duty to the continuation of the chimp species? Many believe we have an obligation to help anyone in nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 09:45 PM
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They're a minority population Yeah probably in line with that of people of other sexual dysfunctions. your absolute refusal to deal with subcultures What does it have to do with your question of "I'm still waiting for them to explain how we're totally not at all like all the social animals that have sex with each other just for fun, and to keep the community together."? I explained to you why they're different, what do sexually dysfunctional degenerates have to do with anything? Which is why tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 08:44 PM
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If we behaved like chimps, violence wouldn't make the news. Chimps aren't always violent, only when the dominance levels are questioned. For most of us, the dominance levels are already established, and government is at the top, for some this isn't clear and it generally gets re-established sooner or later through prison or war or whatever. And women have been leading in individual cases, for centuries. And in more than a few homes, for much longer than that. Those are definitely the exception i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 07:54 PM
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You mean a history that until recently, was soley written by alpha men Does that make it wrong? The wars they talked about happened, the leaders they talked about were in charge, the patriarchal society they described existed. and can't in any way account for all the peace protestors finding excuses to work in recreational sex with each other, while mocking tribal loyalty What are you talking about? Do you want to talk about how many women have led them? Lead who? It's not been until very recent…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 04:37 PM
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I'd say it's crueler to never tell him and deny him the option of leaving someone who settled for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 02:46 PM
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the social animals that have sex with each other just for fun I guess you're referring to bonobos, so I'd be glad to explain the differences. First let's look at the genome. We have more data in common with the chimp, .08mb as opposed to .05, this is admittedly a pretty small difference compared to the shared code, it's one many leave out. Then let's look at habitat. Bonobos live south of the Congo River, while chimps live north of it. Given our shared ancestor between these two likely came from…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 02:33 PM
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You said it the social reject part doesn't really apply when you're only being rejected by people you don't care about anyway Sounds like someone who's socially inept.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 01:41 PM
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There's nothing degenerate about it when it's done responsibly It's still not normal and considered wrong and outside of the moral range for most people, thus degenerate. the social reject part doesn't really apply when you're only being rejected by people you don't care about anyway Great, so you're raising children who will be socially retarded and shunned?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 11:03 PM
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Yeah but the whole "being degenerate social rejects" tends to be tough on kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 02:11 PM
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I technically resent my friends who went to Chipotle without me today since I had a meeting. That happens in relationships. Bad things occur. Sex is different. In your ideal, it would be 100% for a man to deny his wife sex If she wants it with someone else I would encourage her to let me know so I could dump her. The difference is that we both knew the expectations going in. You went in with the expectations that you could have sex with other people. So your wife either says yes every time and j…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 02:06 PM
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It's not as good for a family, it's great for constantly warring tribes who produce an excess number of females due to brutally murdering one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:37 PM
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I don't. Someone can say no. I respect that. You're lying to yourself. You'll resent them a little if they say no. That's not how we operate. It's exactly how you operate, you just put these rules in that cause you to resent one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:26 PM
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So you just ask a question when you already have the expectation for an answer? Why not just be non-exclusively dating and save yourself the charade?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:16 PM
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In a poly relationship, there is communication and commitment among all members So you talk? What does that matter? Also how can you be committed if you can go out and pick someone new out whenever you want? This isn't hard. It's not, you aren't committed to either woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:14 PM
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I'm not frustrated or angry and I think those people who whine about man shaming are pussies who can't accept what it means to be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:04 PM
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Glad you could stop pretending. I have no problems with casual dating or non-committed relationships, I just think the pretending that poly people do where they pretend like their relationships are better than the casual dater's when they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:03 PM
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For what it's worth, monogamy is relatively new for human beings. Sure, so are cell phones and not raping and murdering each other. Around the time of the agricultural revolution, the reproductive pairing has been proven to have been something in the neighborhood of 15-20 women per 1 man. Ok, so? The world is way different from that now, but not all that different from 100 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:01 PM
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So commitment is defined by who you sleep with? It's the easiest place to draw the line, sure there's emotional cheating or not being invested/caring about your partner, but physical cheating is easier to spot and generally a manifestation of the other problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:59 PM
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Because within the context, a committed relationship is one where you're not sleeping with anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:54 PM
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Sorry, the truth is bitter. We can't tell the way the world works bluntly and sugarcoat it because it's not PC enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:42 PM
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The point is, if you're committed to more than one person, you're committed to no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:42 PM
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Guys come into TRP thinking life is, or should be, fair? They sure do, and we help set them straight and oh by the way
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:00 PM
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So she just has to ask for permission to you're expected to give anyways? If you're not jealous or ashamed of being cuckolded, why would you say no? If you never said no, how is this any different than non-exclusive dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:56 PM
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poly people who are married Let me stop you right there. Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:52 PM
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no outside sources of sex/intimacy/etc Then how did you get the second one? You had to go out there looking for ass while you were committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:50 PM
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Poly is bullshit. It's a game of pretending. If you want to form a family, do it with one person, it has the highest likelihood of success. If you want to date a bunch of women at the same time, go do it, but don't lie to them and pretend like your relationship is anything more than non-exclusive dating, because it's not. If you disagree, tell me a functional difference between a poly relationship and a guy spinning plates (hint: there is none).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:49 PM
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The only point in having an exclusive relationship with a woman is forming a family. If you are going to make a family, you'll be much better off with the system that has been used for thousands of years more-so than some degenerate new age bullshit. If you're not going to form a family, why commit to this women? Furthermore, what value is your commitment if you can add as many partners as you like? What the hell does commitment even mean if that's the case? You just ask for the permission they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:44 PM
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Is it news that hot guys get lots of pussy? It is in that the relationship is exponential rather than linear. You will find the 80/20 rule frequently debated here. So... what now? If you're a man, you have to be the best you can. You have to realize that things aren't fair and that you're going to have to be one of the best to get much of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:40 PM
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Yeah but investing in an index fund doesn't make you an international celebrity with enough credibility to make a pretty damn strong run at the US presidency.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:00 PM
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who has publicly admitted to giving money to a myriad of varied corrupt politicians I appreciate his honesty. Anyone at his income level is likely guilty of that, I am glad he will confidently own up to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 06:59 PM
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In my opinion, people should steer clear of any ideology that posits that "all people in such and such group are this way" So sales, medicine, psychology, etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 03:18 PM
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There are plenty of guys in /r/deadbedrooms who accomplish task number one, hell they even get a girl and they connect with her, all your stated goals of success, yet things still aren't working. No matter how much they talk or connect with them, it will never spark that primal desire, and that's what your approach misses. This is ultimately what made me turn to TRP, the real answer it gave me to the deadbedrooms question that no one else would dare mention. I wasn't repulsive, I could get attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 03:01 PM
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I am a spectacular, silence-the-room kind of dancer. I always liked dance music and clubs, but I hated standing around because I didn't know how to dance, so I watched some Michael Jackson videos, took a shitty webcam, and recorded myself trying over and over again until I could do those moves well. It took me weeks, and I was made fun of by anyone who saw or heard about it, but eventually I started being pretty good, after that it became fun and now more than 10 years later, it's a skill I can …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 06:24 PM
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You don't look around enough. When you see the guy that is looks successful in everything he tries and respected by everyone he meets, you'll understand. It's not about "winning", it's about being the best you can, and it's the best way to truly be happy. This isn't even just about women, it's about everything, your job, your friends and family, your physical fitness, etc.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/16 01:17 PM
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Ask yourself what a lazy person would do. Whatever the answer is, do the opposite.
/r/TheRedPill24/01/16 10:53 PM
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I'm not mad, just trying to encourage you to stop shitposting troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 06:58 PM
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Aren't you tired of posting this fucking thread? Seriously, you've posted it like 40 times across any sub you can, do you think someone is going to give you a fucking cheat code or something? You're out of college fucking get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 03:36 PM
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If you look at an alpha male gorilla, he is very possessive. That's why test causes that behavior, but in the modern world where you can't really effectively influence women and others with violence, it is simply a trait that conveys weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 05:03 PM
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If it was you wouldn't be so butthurt. Butthurt whining is a clear indicator of low SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 08:58 PM
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found that even though my SMV was high sure it was... stop whining and go lift.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 08:10 PM
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only as the wall approaches, before that, at her peak SMV, she's "just having fun".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 06:40 PM
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RP claims women don't just want a physical relationship. They want the whole package. If that were true the CC wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 06:32 PM
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You show me a person saying it and I'll show you the fat slutty cunt calling them a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 01:12 PM
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Except it misses the point No, it is the point, if most women think most men are below average, that is the point. If this example accurately represent reality Except you made it up. The much simpler explanation seems much more likely simply because it is much simpler. That in and of itself discredits the application of that study to real-life. No, it only discredits it in a few scenarios of real life. Additionally that's just something you've made up and I've agreed it could be a possibility, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 08:16 PM
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Do you see how even if we are using the median, it will produce the same skew (and in fact, it would be more pronounced)? In that case you're just arguing that it's showing the same issue that it obviously demonstrates. Yeah women rate most men below average, that's exactly what it's saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 07:54 PM
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Most dating websites allow you to specify if you're looking for relationships or flings, but yes, that's why I don't think it's a big factor. No I mean like the rating thing only shows a picture. It's like the old "hot or not" site. It doesn't show the full profile. The median is an average. Median, mean and mode are all averages. No, average is mean. Median, mean, and mode are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 06:59 PM
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There was also one more I forgot to mention, which was that if a guy puts out the vibe that he doesn't want a relationship, he will be rated as unattractive even if she is attracted to him. I don't think it's a big factor though. It's picture only. Each man's average rating will be around 2. I feel like I've said this several times, it's not an average, it's a median. The median is looked at on a scale that has average. This is what it means when it says women rate 80% of men below average. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 06:24 PM
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They aren't just rating these men against other men on OkCupid, and you can't pose in real life. You don't really rate real life men, so I imagine the metric would be only used for OkCupid men. If you were to look at the average ratings, employees' would be shifted to the left even if every single one is in satisfactory employment. But you're not understanding, we're looking at the median, it adjusts for a skewed distribution. We're comparing the median rating women give men and comparing it to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 03:28 PM
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Women train from a young age to look attractive in pictures. Women are better at taking pictures of themselves, skewing ratings to the left. Women wear make up, skewing their average to the right. These would make sense if you had some sort of non-relative scale across both genders, but considering you're comparing the women and men against one another separately, the averages would just move, the scale would stay the same. aggregated ratings are by nature not normally distributed But the issue …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 09:33 PM
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I have a lot more criticisms, and I want to eliminate them all. If any one of those criticisms is valid, the data can't be trusted. I understand, I just doubt you will have any that he wouldn't have seen long before he began his analysis. but I don't think his success was actually contingent on his ability to analyse data You should read the book and see how his data analysis played a part in the seemingly tangential decisions that caused the business to benefit. For example he found that the si…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 09:20 PM
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I think the psychologist's last response in this thread is worth keeping in mind. It's anecdotal and not in any way scientific. I'd say compared to the statistical analysis done by Christian Rudder, it is absolutely not worth keeping in mind. There were other problems those screenshots don't cover. I'm really surprised you're putting this much effort into trying to disprove what a respected data scientist has staked his career on when you won't put the effort in to back up your own claims. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 08:55 PM
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'Disprove' and 'prove wrong' are not scientific terms You're right, I should have used the logic terms, modus tollens and modus ponens. They are different things. One shows that something else is true, versus one part of it not being correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 08:52 PM
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Did he? because he doesn't mention it in the study It's in the book. I'm not making it up and neither is the user I linked. Just go to a bookstore and go over that chapter, you don't even have to read the book. He used to have the footnotes online, but it looks like he's redesigned the site for the paperback version. How did he adjust for women not rating men with high star ratings because they didn't want to initiate contact? He gets into the details, don't recall exactly, but I specifically re…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 08:19 PM
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He left out some extremely important information in the original study, not least of which was: 1.Skipping an OkCupid profile rates it as zero. 2.Giving a user a four or five-star rating gives them the notification that you've liked them (i.e. it initiates contact) He adjusted for those obvious issues. He's not an idiot. He also compiled data from several dating websites and found a similar trend. The person likely deleted their account because they were wrong as this user pointed out.. I'll tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 08:03 PM
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Eh, I don't trust your word. I'm going to assume it has more to do with you not having evidence than trusting me not to waste your time. he's clearly biased Not really, he sold to match.com a long time ago. Is he the one who did the "OkCupid women rate 80% of men as below average" study? He is and he has done quite a few blog posts on a side blog of OKCupid called OKTrends. he's not good at statistical analysis. Actually he is really really good at it. He graduated from Harvard with a degree in …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 07:07 PM
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I'm defending it to will actually consider my defence. I give you my word, but I'll expect real evidence, not opinions. Internet using population =/= online dating population. Christian Rudder is one of the creators of OKCupid. He's referring specifically to it's userbase as he shows how much more representative of the population his users are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 06:52 PM
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Because my time is not free. If a discussion isn't productive for me, I'm not going to waste time with it. If you don't want to defend the statements you make then you should refrain from making them. I haven't read that book. Care to summarise his arguments? Basically that the internet using population has become very representative of the population as a whole in modernized countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 06:18 PM
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It had been posted to /r/redpilldebate, which I guess at the time was a thing. Only it was too debatey hence the pressure to shut it down Again, read the links you expected me to. It was shut down after being crossposted to TRP. And yeah, disproving and proving wrong is kinda the same thing. Not in the scientific terms. And so since it's not conclusive enough for you because you don't understand it It's not conclusive enough precisely because I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 04:40 PM
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It's a self-selected group, which immediately means it isn't representative. You could say that of all surveys. I don't have time to do a rigourous proof of the quirks of OkCupid datasets, and to be honest I don't think you are asking in good faith (sorry). Why does my intention of asking have anything to do with it? I read Christian Rudder's book, Dataclysm and he made a very good argument as to how his data is fairly representative and applicable to the population as a whole. I am interested i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 04:37 PM
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Oh, in that post. Yeah the exact one you referenced. If you expect me to read something, I would expect you to have read it as well. evidence about how the RP stuff is a load of hogwash There is a difference between disproving and proving wrong. What you linked to was an argument to disprove a TRP sidebar post, and not a conclusive one at that. it clearly doesn't belong in the main sub, regardless of who posted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 04:24 PM
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Are you asking in good faith, or just trying to disprove me? I'm interested. You stated that an OK Cupid sample was in no way representative of the single population as a whole, you seemed confident so I assumed you had a real reason to think that, but it sounds like it was all personal opinion. Any one of them being true demonstrates that it's an atypical slice of the population. But you didn't prove any of them. You only contested four. They were the four that seemed the most unbelievable. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 04:17 PM
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It's right there in the first link of the comment that you posted. You just didn't bother looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 04:12 PM
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It's in the link. No, it doesn't prove anything. That link says "you might be wrong for these reasons" In fact, she admits such at the top: I concede that a lack of evidence doesn't automatically mean a theory (especially one that is, by its very nature, hard to prove) is wrong. And so you make sure you can't be proven wrong, which is exactly what happened. If you try our stuff and it doesn't work, you've proven it to yourself. It seems like you are just salty you can't spam the sub with irrelev…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 04:08 PM
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I have specific reasons too though So all conjecture? 1.People on online dating can't find an adequate partner in real life. Wouldn't that apply to all single people regardless of whether they are on online dating or not? People on online dating disproportionally put out red flags Proof? People on online dating are considerably more socially awkward than the general population. Proof? attract people who are looking to filter based on that Proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 04:03 PM
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with factual scientific evidence that clearly show that the sidebar articles are full of it Lets see them then. No, it doesn't. Sure it does, if you can prove it wrong, it's not faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 04:00 PM
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it's actually funny I've read funnier Family Circus strips. I haven't yet seen a single terp post with a sense of humor. /u/GayLubeOil makes me chuckle sometimes butthurt on terp than bloop. TBP is a dedicated butthurt subreddit. Also, there was a post where a terper actually likened TRP to Nazism, so I don't have to do that, you guys are doing that on your own. I'm sure there was....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 03:54 PM
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Doesn't this prove that you are wrong and it isn't based on faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 03:47 PM
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1% of people actually putting in this amount of effort is pretty impressive. /r/thebluepill must leave you in absolute awe then. Thousands of people so butthurt they can't help but shitpost and whine relentlessly. I find the comparison to Mormonism and cult tactics to be pretty apt. Of course you do, because anything that hurts your delicate sensibilities must be religious mumbo jumbo right? You should go ahead and compare TRP to scientology and Nazism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 03:46 PM
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significant number less than 1% To give some perspective, there are more people looking at Joe Biden holding sandwiches than there are in ex red pill. people sign up just to make a point TRP has it's own fan club, I imagine a lot of their subscribers are from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 03:38 PM
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This is not a representative sample of the population Do you have a reason to believe this or is it conjecture?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 03:34 PM
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Yet people come back and say it didn't work all the time Do they? Ex red pill has maybe 1% of the subscribers of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 03:20 PM
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which requires you to take things on faith No, much of TRP's advice is completely testable. You can go out for yourself and see if the steps we suggest result in the outcome we stated. That's the opposite of faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 03:16 PM
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Here's a video that can explain what I'm trying to do better, I skipped to the important part so you'd only have to watch like 30 seconds. Islam has a serious problem, and we need to have a serious look at the reality of it, not just brush it off and say "well it's only a few crazy people". If 26% of AMERICAN muslims believe suicide bombings can be justified, we have a serious problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 03:14 PM
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The data also supports the fact that those portions constitute minorities (which was my original point). Yeah, but they are sizable minorities. And it's not like these sizeable minorities disagree on something like whether or not homosexuality or prostitution is wrong, they differ on whether or not it's ok to kill innocent people. but that minority is perhaps bigger than you'd like it to be and in your mind that constitutes something that... isn't a minority? 49.9% is a minority and 0.00000001% …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 09:42 PM
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Yeah it is wallowing, and it happens a lot on TRP, just thankfully less that the other places I mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 08:23 PM
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you're reading the chart you linked incorrectly What you linked seemed to show similar results: "In the U.S., about eight-in-ten Muslims (81%) say that suicide bombing and similar acts targeting civilians are never justified" Only 8 out of 10 think suicide bombing is never justified? 20% seems like a very large number to have a differing opinion on whether or not it's ok to blow up innocent people. Before you pass judgment No. I don't have to consider shit when I'm passing judgment on whether or…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 07:40 PM
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I was too blinded by my hatred of chickens to notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 05:13 PM
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You need to lift weights.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 04:24 PM
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Either I believe god immaculately impregnated her and I'm fine being Christian, or I believe Joesph did it which means I wouldn't be a Christian anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 03:39 PM
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It's statistically unsound to believe otherwise. I used to think the stone-age kind of beliefs were held by a minority of Muslims, but looking at stuff like this changed my mind, what I consider the normal muslims are actually a very small minority in their religion. Globally, 28% support executing those who choose to leave Islam and only 72% say suicide bombing is never justified, that leaves 28% who think is it, 85% say husbands should always obey their wives. 90% think homosexuality is wrong.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 03:35 PM
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How old do you think Mary was? God didn't have sex with her, he just gave her a magic baby. I'm totally cool with any form of underage impregnation that does not involve bodily penetration, immaculate conception is the only one I'm aware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 03:02 PM
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Maybe to someone who hasn't been around one. I would never choose to live within eyesight of one of those shit-pits, because you can smell them before you see them, much less go in one and deal with those disgusting mean peck-machines. If you live out in the woods, raise quails. They taste better, not as mean, and they don't smell god-awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 02:44 PM
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Most men would just like to be loved for being themselves And most men would like to be given money and sex without doing anything. Unfortunately, respect and love are like money and sex in that people don't just give them out, you have to earn them. People aren't going to love you for being yourself unless yourself is someone who does something for them. If yourself is shitty and worthless, no one is going to love you for it, except your mother, and that's just because you fulfill her biologica…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 02:26 PM
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Better he be reading TRP than r9k, foreveralone, puahate or somewhere like that where he would be encouraged to wallow in self pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 02:21 PM
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He won't face a month of total rejection. He might not get laid, but he will at the very least make some casual friends to hang out with which... won't get him laid, thus rejected. People get laid all the time without ever lifting a weight. True, but people with testosterone and some muscles have it a lot easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 08:02 PM
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The survey results don't match my person beliefs They don't match YOURS. Half of the women admit they want dominant men. Way more than that if you phrase the question differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 06:25 PM
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Do you honestly think that it's because he isn't in great shape? It's a huge part of it. I think he could go out there, face a shitload of soul-crushing rejection and maybe find a girl willing to settle with him after long enough. But if he went to the gym and started lifting, he'd get the testosterone pumping, giving him more confidence, drive, and looks increasing his potential for success and quality of potential partners. So yeah, go to the gym, lose weight, lift. Your advice won't get him l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 06:24 PM
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Slightly overweight people get laid just fine Then why is this one here whining about it? Women find fit men more attractive. many women are into that if you're tall which he is If you make up for it in a bunch of other ways, maybe a few half decent women will be willing to settle for you, but wouldn't you rather just get off your ass and get in shape?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 01:51 PM
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Half of women in the survey preferred this one. Half of them SAID they preferred this one, and only outside the bedroom. The other half were a bit more honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 01:47 PM
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The "are you ok" thing is about dominance and looking confident and strong. Those are attractive qualities that have nothing to do with looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 02:17 PM
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Anita Sarkeesian, frankly, is hot Dead serious, she's average at BEST.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 02:06 PM
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His goal isn't to be a fun guy to hang out with, plenty of fun guys don't get laid. His goal is to fuck, and what you are saying won't help. He needs to get fit and get some test pumping, he'll be surprised how much easier it is to get along with people when they don't see you as a waste of space.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 02:02 PM
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If you just want to lose weight, you don't even need the gym, just eat better and maybe go walk or bike a bit. But after a year, you should have way better results with the simple lifting and dieting advice I gave. Cut sugar and sodas and go lift free weights for 30 minutes three days a week and you should start seeing decent results in 6-8 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 10:20 PM
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I'm telling him there's no shortcuts and you're lying to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 09:30 PM
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Dude, don't get a dog, that's just going to keep you in your house alone MORE. You need to get out of the house, no dog, go to bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 09:06 PM
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Fuck all that lifting and dressing well advice for now. That'll get you nowhere socially. Yeah we all know that fit well dressed guys are generally the ones that are social outcasts right? There's a reason those things go together.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 08:59 PM
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This hardly supports your conclusion of women strongly preferring dominant men It does when 0 of them said they prefer submissive men. You can't make a comparison between bedroom situations and non-bedroom situations because they are two completely different things. They're not that different. Maybe they are for some people, but I'd argue there is a strong relationship between the two and that the bedroom doesn't exist in some sort of vacuum completely independent of the rest of the relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 08:33 PM
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Dude, you didn't read TRP or you would have seen the word LIFT
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 06:25 PM
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You don't have to be as big as some of those guys! Bad advice. Most guys won't get as big as those guys without roids anyways, so saying "you don't have to be that big" is just fuel for an excuse to give up or take it easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 05:59 PM
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Why is it so hard? Because going to the gym is hard work and takes months to see results. Do men not do this? No, they don't that's why TRP exists. Women are told that they need to look good and guys are superficial. Men are told that "women don't like meatheads" and "I don't really care that much about looks" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 05:53 PM
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So basically, if you want to catch a fish, listen to the fisherman not the fish?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 05:46 PM
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be yourself Yourself probably sucks if you're having to constantly get shot down. How about make yourself into the kind of guy that girls want to be with and then you can pick from a bunch of "Mrs. Rights" to find the best one instead of being forced to go with the sorry one that finally gives up and decides to settle for your sorry ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 02:48 PM
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Your question is similar to "I didn't graduate high school and now I want a good paying job, but I don't want to work very hard, how do I do it?" Sorry bud, your only option is to work for it. Your goal needs to be to stop being average. You know what is average for a single guy in Seattle? Smoking weed and playing video games. Give them both up. Stop buying weed, stop playing video games. This should give you a large amount of free time and money. Use that time and money to go to the gym. Tell …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 02:39 PM
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Every single girl that says they can "hold their liquor" generally just means they don't feel embarrassed when they get drunk and make a fool of themselves. I'll take the girl who knows she'll make a fool of herself and restrains.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/16 04:06 PM
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Construction workers and high earning oil rig workers or ice truck drivers don't mix with financiers and doctors or even teachers or nurses. I used to be the mid-level software engineer. I knew teachers, doctors and construction workers. You most likely just limit the places you go to stay away from those people. Just go to a dive bar and talk to people instead of treating it like a field trip and you probably would too. And please tell us what your profession is? It's changed a lot. Electrician…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 03:02 PM
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Whatever socioeconomic class that is broad enough to contain mid-level software engineers and doctors would certainly contain skilled tradesmen and construction engineers, she just doesn't have anything to do with those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 02:36 PM
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Sure it works, but you can't be surprised when people don't like you for doing it. Do you really think people hate the guy they just bought a car from? Stupid people hate salesmen because they don't like knowing that they can be manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 08:26 PM
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not very many people like salesmen because of this Yet salesmen sell far more cars than secretaries or mechanics. You're right that sales is about manipulating and influencing people, and you can hate it all you want, but it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 08:11 PM
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He asked a simple question and you respond with "you're wrong and a racist also you suck the mod's dicks". Maybe that's why your post got removed, you're an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 02:25 PM
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If I were giving advice to a salesman I would say "don't trust other people only yourself" and "get other people to trust you". That's not hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 01:30 PM
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If 100k people didn't ever contradict one another you would be correct in calling us a cult. /r/pyongyang is the only place where that could happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 01:29 PM
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Wait, you think I'm a woman? I never said that. Slut-shaming and the cultural double standard is just that, culture. You really don't think it relates to how people act? That's not the same as a guy refusing a woman solely because she's not a virgin. You're moving goalposts, we're talking about a guy not wanting a woman who has been with many other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 02:10 PM
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I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just that it's not new.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 03:05 PM
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The only reason you get away with your little chauvinist red pill fantasy world now is because most men in the world are NOT womanizers It's always existed, we just previously categorized them as prostitutes or loose women and you would often have to pay them. TRP recognizes this same division still exists and you hate them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 01:34 PM
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I've never said what I like our do not like, so you are calling me names based on entirely fabricated BS. Your insistence that sexual degeneracy is normal sounds like you are trying to convince yourself, so I assumed that's why you had such a big issue with other people's mate preference. Your correlation between religious practice and a high priority on low partner count is weak. That might be true, but it's some evidence as opposed to your complete lack of it. But if you want I can find you a …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 01:30 PM
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the majority of men put partner count of the woman at the top for their selection criteria No one says that. Any man would rather bang a 20yo slut over a 60yo virgin. The rest of the world just does not care that much. Any proof? I've shown that most of the world's religions don't approve of sluts, and I can show that most of the world's population is religious. Going after sluts is closer to a fetish than avoiding them is. Very few people are cuckold degenerates like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 08:16 PM
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We're in a thread about the Cock Carousel and its supposed prevalence in our culture. I'd say it's more about it's increasing prevalence. There are a lot of non-religious folks out there, and it does not seem that religion plays a big roll in partner selection. Sure, but religious folks aren't that unusual among the world population. religion has probably spawned more fetishes Do you need to remind yourself what the word fetish means again? I'm happy to copy and paste the definition you link to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 01:18 PM
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there are as many high partner count women as you claim Where did I claim that? Can you explain? Sure. Basically every religion has a stated preference for female chastity. Almost every culture around the world for almost all of known history has had a similar preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 11:23 PM
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a strong and unusual need or desire for something I think you need to understand what a fetish is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 09:22 PM
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Pedophilia has also been popular throughout history, however that does nothing to legitimize it. Slavery has been in place for millennia, again, a poor choice. We aren't talking about whether or not something is legitimate. The context you are using the word "fetish" in would imply something as uncommon or outside the norm. Chastity preference is neither of those, while slavery and pedophilia are. You need to argue your virgin fetish on its own merits. No, in order to argue that it's not an "abs…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 08:58 PM
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I would compare weight watchers and AA to marriage counseling or psychiatric help. What's the difference though? TRP and the other groups are self-help.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 08:49 PM
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Explain the difference. Also explain the problem you have with people dealing with their own issues and not bothering you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 08:39 PM
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this absurd fetish with low partner count women. Men have liked chaste women since pretty much the beginning of known history. Kind of tough to call that an "absurd fetish".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 08:36 PM
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who you suspect would not have sex with you if she was sober, would be edifying or make you feel good about yourself I doubt the drunk and horny guy taking advantage of such a situation is having a long philosophical internal monologue about self-actualization.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 08:13 PM
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Ok, Weight watchers isn't necessary because most people manage to not become fat without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 08:08 PM
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Alcoholics Anonymous isn't necessary because most people manage to not become self-destructively addicted to alcohol without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 06:00 PM
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This kind of ignores the base issue, that being that they are unattractive or socially awkward or both. They don't hit on girls because of simple conditioning. Any time in the past that they hit on girls, they were likely hurt badly ego-wise, socially, whatever. This causes them to avoid women and prevent portraying any sexual interest in a woman whatsoever. It also likely caused him to have less confidence and further hurt his chances when asking girls the next time. This kind of negative feedb…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 04:53 PM
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but to say that TRP doesn't push faking it at all is just sticking your head in the sand I didn't say they don't push faking at all. In fact I clearly mentioned it. I just pointed out that the "making it" part that you are ignoring is noted to be much more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 02:19 PM
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Yeah and you're ignoring half of it, and really the most important part.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 01:44 PM
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And tits are useless on an LTR girlfriend, but I'd never date someone who didn't have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 02:37 AM
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we completely changed as people and just weren't compatible anymore even though we communicated well So then you must understand how communication is irrelevant to sexual desire or many things about a relationship. My bet is that you just grew tired of one another and had your previous BF tried TRP and maybe made you think of him as more in demand, or mysterious or what not, you probably would have both had more sex regardless of who was more responsible for the DB. that telling someone you have…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 06:34 PM
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we use our words Tell the guys in /r/deadbedrooms that their problem is that they're not communicating, tell them that they need to use their words. Relationships and sex are something more primal. They can't always be reasoned with; they existed before we could communicate. That's why you can't always treat the bedroom like a boardroom and just negotiate out the best solution, it simply doesn't work like that. And if you need to be told how to communicate with your partner, you also probably ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 06:14 PM
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I ignore the whining about feminism. I think the dark triad stuff is a cargo cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:49 PM
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because the 20 year olds don't want to date him? Keep telling yourself that, I'll be taking my pick of 23-27 year old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:48 PM
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It's easy for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:40 PM
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I bet it isn't Let me listen to the armchair professor tell me something that I have literally done several times is actually impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:39 PM
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I just told the guy The person isn't consciously maliciously taking you for granted. It's happening nearly subconsciously, and no amount of negotiation will effect it. They need to see actions. I still do nice things "Doing nice things" is not what excites women. They're not a vending machine that you put "nice coins" in to get sex out of.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:35 PM
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Why would any woman want to commit with a Chad? Why would a woman want a diamond? It's just a rock. Are you really asking why a woman would want to have a relationship with an attractive, confident, dominant man?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:33 PM
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I think there are lots of frustrated women too but they don't spend as much time whining on the internet. www.tumblr.com They whine more, just about muh oppreshun
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:29 PM
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"Fake it 'til you make it" doesn't mean "just always fake it"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:26 PM
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Again BP takes everything to the extreme. Dread is a response to being taken for granted. If you're not taking your guy for granted, I agree, dread would not be effective or healthy for your relationship. Now just imagine for a second, that you were being taken for granted. You were assumed to always be there, so the other person might have little interest in how you feel or making you happy. A good response to this is reminding that person that you have options and you might not always be there…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:14 PM
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Okay, firstly your entire premise is based on selective anecdotal evidence and is certainly not broadly applicable. I don't think that's true. Excessive promiscuity is generally regarded as a self-destructive behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 08:38 PM
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Most of TRP wasn't born TRP, they adopted it when they saw it work for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 08:31 PM
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I don't think you understand the power imbalance in the relationship of that gf of the nerd. She can go get another nerd easy, he can't get another gf. This power imbalance will likely make the nerd submissive, jealous, subservient, etc. This tends to wear on a lot of girls, it makes him less and less attractive and makes her feel like this loser's mother. This will likely push her to cheat on him, break up with him or both. So yeah I'd rather be the PUA, at least he could get another girlfriend…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 08:25 PM
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Give yourself hope, work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 04:42 PM
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Now I differ slightly from the norm here, but in my personal life, I'm quite into chivalry. Being the dom. is just not my cuppa coffee. What if you are the norm? What if the same way that men are into the same kinds of women (thin, nice tits, nice ass, beautiful face, etc.), women are into the same kinds of men (aggressive, confident, dominant, etc.)?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 03:00 PM
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Why do you assume it is a universal? Solipsism. She finds confidence attractive and assumes men do too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 02:51 PM
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Chances are ugly people are fairly aware of reality. And I would argue that ugly people not settle for someone they find unattractive just to not be lonely. I'd suggest they focus on bettering themselves. If they find someone they do find attractive, then they can bother with them, if not they can make themselves happy being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 02:32 PM
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avoiding emotional vulnerability at all costs What's the matter with that advice? It's really good advice for inexperienced men who tend to get really emotionally caught up in a woman way to quickly. refusing to compromise That's great advice for a man that was probably previously a doormat. not admitting fault, even when you're wrong Again, good advice for a doormat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 02:17 PM
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having one girlfriend (as far as I know), tying her down to a relatively early marriage, and having a solid family and kids That's perfectly in line with TRP. TRP has nothing against traditional relationships and often romanticizes them. TRP argues that the traditional paradigm doesn't work because modern women's attitude have changed and hypergamy has been "unleashed". It generally cites this as a reason that we still see traditional relationships in the upper class, because the women can't go …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 02:12 PM
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f it isn't a troll post (you never know) He was salty enough to go on TBP and whine about this thread, sounds like someone this pathetic would do.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/15 12:49 PM
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"I might not be having any sex but at least I know that I'm doing my part to make the world a better place." The new male feminist mantra smh
/r/TheRedPill08/12/15 12:47 PM
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My bad, I didn't see the tag when I posted, I checked because it sounded like a Q4BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 09:41 PM
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No I do not think there was malice. If you think she had no attraction to him and simply planed on using him for money, there's absolutely malice. is kind of in need of a personality overhaul and is probably boring and earnest Yeah, he needs TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 08:04 PM
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I think you're attributing quite a bit of malice to her intentions. I think she kind of thought he was cute, liked his path in life, and figured why not. I think it was more a case of settling than her setting out to use him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 07:49 PM
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I bet it's still waned. I agree she was kind of on the fence, I just doubt she had some conspiracy in her head to date this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 06:00 PM
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She never was attracted to him at all Sure she was. I seriously doubt she attempted to fake attraction for the entirety of the relationship. It's more likely that she was on the fence about him, was attracted enough to him, and that his submissive and supplicating behavior just made him more and more repulsive to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 05:29 PM
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So how does he stop it from happening again? Why was his girlfriend attracted to him, but not sexually excited by him?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 05:16 PM
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It took you 14 painfully long paragraphs to say "anecdotes aren't scientific". TRP isn't science. Nothing that deals with how humans think and act really is at a scientific level yet. TRP is a heuristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 02:13 PM
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Sounds like a classic example of branch swinging. Notice how you made sure you had a firm grasp of the second branch before letting go of the first. You're 24, you'll start to find those branches begin to become fewer and far between as the years go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 01:25 PM
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You can hear all about the fish on twox, srs, trollx, jezebel, etc. You came here because you want to talk about fishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 02:41 PM
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I'm sorry that's a load of BS, this is a place for blue pill to try and communicate with redpillers while refraining from using expletives while red pill use it for apologetics. You didn't disagree with me. This sub is about talking about TRP. That's what 'meta' means. No matter which side of the fence you are one, that's true. If TRP is talking about "catching fish", PPD is talking about how TRP talks about catching fish. Whether it's BP talking about how terrible TRP is for fish or it's TRP ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 06:22 AM
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This sub is meta discussion. It's not about "catching fish".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 09:56 PM
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Does this not come naturally to RPers or something? No clearly it doesn't to some. Does it make you feel good to make fun of people trying to help themselves? Do you go to the gym and laugh at fat people there working out? "haha how did you not know you were supposed to work out already fatty?" pretending to be so just makes me feel uncomfortable and I don't enjoy it. If you're not willing to feel uncomfortable you'll never accomplish anything. fucking as many hot girls as you can won't make you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 05:11 PM
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I think a lot of the "scientific" stuff in TRP is a cargo cult, trying to explain the complicated ways out brains function that modern science doesn't even fully understand. But to me the value in TRP isn't it's explanation of why things work, but how. To give an example of gravity, TRP might give some reason why it thinks the ball drops, but it mostly focuses on telling people that if someone lets go of a ball, it's going to hit the floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 05:02 PM
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I think a lot of us tried that. Not all of us were kissless virgins before TRP. I could get girlfriends (after a decent amount of rejection), but the sex would fizzle out. TRP explained that women lose respect for a person when they see them as their equal, and for me that rings true. Now maybe that's not true for every woman, but it seems to be for me. So would your advice in these scenarios be to just go after that small amount of women who aren't like that? I'd prefer TRP's advice that seems …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 04:58 PM
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I'm prejudice against bears too. People tell me that they don't all violently attack you, but I'm not taking my chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 09:00 PM
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Obama shows weakness when it's natural That's not weakness, that's empathy. But also remember that Barak Obama's job is basically putting on an act. So is any leader's. He probably shows a lot of weakness to his wife I'll bet he doesn't, because just like America, she expects him to be a strong leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 06:25 PM
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Do you think Barack Obama is insecure because he never acts weak?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 06:04 PM
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I feel like you're just replying to me rather than considering the point I'm bringing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 09:00 PM
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But not AS attractive. His success and other women's desire for him is part of his appeal. The idea of "being George Clooney's girlfriend" is really appealing for women, "being some famous woman's boyfriend" doesn't really do anything and is kind of a little bit of a negative for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 08:58 PM
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"random chick that looks just as good as Shakira" doesn't pull up many google results and it's tough to find pictures of her out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 08:45 PM
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George Clooney is just hot. If a dude won a date with Shakira he would also be pretty happy. That's not all of it. If you offered me a date with Shakira and some woman just as hot as Shakira but not famous, I'd go for the not famous one, for women it's different.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 08:43 PM
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I find that it transforms a sexual relationship into something else entirely and I recommend it. Why would I do that? I like sexual relationships. They work when handled properly as this sub describes.
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 02:29 PM
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This is part of why it's important to work out. You don't have to be the biggest strongest guy in the world, but enough to be threatening and it's way more likely stuff like this wouldn't even happen. People like that only pick on others because they either think you wouldn't hurt them or you couldn't hurt them at all, not necessarily that you'd win the fight. I had a similar situation happen to me in NYC. I was on vacation, drunk mid-day, taking the subway with my girl. A middle aged black man …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 02:27 PM
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Why should it matter what you look like when you're posting pics of people you think are cute? But that's not really the context in this situation. It sounds more like she's on the fence about if she can do better, not stating that these guys are cute. A key to the "can I do better?" question is how you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 06:34 PM
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Driven by hunger, a fox tried to reach some grapes hanging high on the vine but was unable to, although he leaped with all his strength. As he went away, the fox remarked 'Oh, you aren't even ripe yet! I don't need any sour grapes.'
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:56 PM
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You are only assuming that it's self destructive behaviour because you can't imagine different people having a different sets of morals and attitude towards casual sex. If you get drunk every once and a while you're not necessarily an alcoholic. If you get drunk four times a day, every day, you have a problem. It's not a matter of perspective or attitude towards drinking. I only go for liberal girls They're probably the only ones you can find who are willing to put up with your degenerate sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:48 PM
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Condoms do exist, along with them breaking and herpes exists as well. Personally I don't see a woman engaging in self-destructive behavior like that being worried about condoms. I also don't see the point in sex with condoms, might as well not even bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 03:17 PM
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Probably a history of sexual abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 03:14 PM
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Do you think the human body evolved to know the difference between when you're technically on a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 01:00 AM
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It's what rapport is. What you're talking about is generally called mirroring For example, you go to a party with some friends, they bring one of their friends, you ask her out on a date. So your first date was the party. You're splitting hairs here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 12:36 AM
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What makes you say this? You think the fact that people synchronize body language if they're interested in one another is just something that happens in every country in the world by chance? I didn't really consider that the same thing. And usually these things do come in play before you go on a date I'd say they generally come on the date. Being fixed up by friends and family - I think that's extremely rare. It's actually the most common
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 11:53 PM
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The thing is, being an alpha male is linked to dominance, testosterone, and all of those things. It's not spurious, it's encompassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 11:29 PM
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The personality trait of dominance is correlated with testosterone levels Being an alpha male is correlated to test. So testosterone is what we call a confounding variable. No, it's correlating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 11:19 PM
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Your mind has evolved to trigger sensations of attraction based on stuff like body language, smell, voice tonality, physical rapport, personality compatibility etc. Physical rapport and personal compatibility certainly are completely divorced from evolution. But as for the other two, those come into play when you go on a date. People are only meeting people online, same way they might get fixed up by friends or family. This doesn't mean they necessarily match, those other factors come into play …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 11:14 PM
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What about being attracted to the scent of dominant men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 11:11 PM
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Our minds are evolved to chose partners in the real world. Not really. Our minds work outside of evolution, they grow and learn while you are alive, not iteratively through each generation. The way your body has evolved to find a mate really just involves physically locating and inseminating her. Online dating doesn't allow these mechanisms to work properly. What a bunch of bullshit. You think you brain has managed to evolve in the few years in which we've had workplaces or bars? There's no mech…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 05:53 PM
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My main issue with it, and I really didn't want to get in the details of it, is that you've backpedalled away from your original claim "women have a preference for alpha males [is wrong]". The evidence I shows proves that. It doesn't prove this strawman you've backpedalled to of "women only go after alpha males", but neither me nor TRP itself is saying that, only that women have a preference for alpha males.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 05:47 PM
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It's the best measurement there is so far. It's still not good enough to be science. I'd like to see you come up with a better one. I've suggested mine in another thread. Analyzing online data to get aggregate trends of actual real world interaction. Don't skim it. Read it. I did, it was like 3 sentences, and 2 of them were about testosterone being linked to violence, which is completely irrelevant to what I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 04:41 PM
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your proof You've only proven what women say they do. OKtrends tell us how men and women behave within a certain environment - online dating. It's pretty much already the dominant dating marketplace, and it tends to reflect our true intentions better since no one is watching us while we do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 04:38 PM
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I'm usually rated around a 7 when I post pictures online. In real life, a woman who is a 7 usually responds positively to me, and most of the women I've dated have been around that range, or above. Didn't you just accuse TRP of using anecdotes? The OkTrends data is the most scientific data out there. I encourage you to read Dataclysm. It's about the only way to get real scientific answers to the questions we're asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 03:41 PM
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Look at the link I posted, there are statistics on this. I didn't see you post any link. Any of those stats are going to be self-reported and essentially biased and unscientific. but it's the only measurement that exists Then it's not science. Evidence has to be verifiable and reproducible. I can't go ask those people the same thing and get the same result. This doesn't mean there's no value in it, but when we're talking about what is and isn't science, it's relevant. Yes. Now read the other stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 03:37 PM
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Well then it's a heuristic on the same level as feminism is a heuristic. Feminism is a social movement. It has goals and all of that. You wouldn't say "It's ok it's just a heuristic" Assume every man could rape you is a great heuristic, and it is something feminism calls victim blaming or something. It would argue that women shouldn't have to watch out for rapists, rapists just shouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 03:13 PM
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You can test the cock carosel by looking at partner counts of men and women in college. How do we look? Put cameras in dorm rooms? Why only college women? For the hypergamy I am in no way arguing that women have a preference for higher status men with higher education, this is accepted as a fact in social psychology. You have no evidence for hypergamy! Hypergamy is accepted as a fact What? I am arguing against the TRP notion of "Branch jumping" and the "80/20" rule You should have said that then…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 03:10 PM
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No it doesn't. Sure it does. Heuristics aren't pseudoscience, they never claim to be science. Anecdotes and confirmation bias are part of heuristics. It addresses all three of your concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 02:57 PM
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He did, in his first post. He stated "You are implying that american society condones rape". He was asking you to defend or clarify that implication.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 02:28 PM
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TRP makes testable claims cock carosel How is that testable? hypergamy As best as it can be proven, we have studies to support it preference for alpha males As best as it can be proven, we have studies to support it and this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 02:21 PM
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Pseudoscientific, full of anecdotes and confirmation bias. TRP is a heuristic. That addresses all three of those claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 02:15 PM
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Some did, some were nomadic hunters. But that's like saying they all came up with fire or spears, it's not really a coincidence like having the exact same social structure would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 01:34 PM
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Quite a number of politicians are of average intelligence or bellow, actual geniuses seldom enter politics. I was talking about leaders throughout time, so whatever quality it might be, strength, cunning, speaking ability, leadership, ability to manipulate on a large scale, whatever, chances are the best men are the best at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 01:32 PM
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Feminists have a lot to fear around the world. Not in the college campuses they exist in. If women did exactly the same thing as those guys (run a coffee shop, fuck the men customers using the coffee shop and blog about them (penis size/sexual prowess etc) and say how shit 99% of men are, they'd get run out of town. No way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 04:36 AM
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So, you mean the women running it are being open and honest about what they're doing? They don't have to fear getting persecuted. Men could do the same. Maybe there already is something. There's not. It would get beat up and shut down quickly. Just look at what happened to these guys. Their business wasn't even related to the blog and it happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 01:22 AM
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Not the right to post ratings on all the men they've fucked They already have that. There are women literally running a business entirely about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 12:39 AM
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So in your view if someone isn't a martyr for their cause they're worthless? Have you ever looked into fundamentalist Islam? It might be for you. It's not really even a belief. They know it works, they've seen it. If you threatened to persecute me and threaten my business unless I said the sun is black, I don't give a shit, I'll tell you what you want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 11:26 PM
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Your disdain for men who show weakness is certainly not uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 09:58 PM
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So, their long outpouring of regret and shame that they wrote was all a big fat lie? Do you really think someone does a 180 in their beliefs the day after they get called out for something? You don't think Donald Sterling is still a racist? You don't think Subway Jared is still probably a gross pedophile? You mean to say they have no integrity? More that they value their livelihood more than their integrity. I don't blame them. That they were trying to manipulate people in believing their change…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 08:23 PM
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I'd say yours does. Stating things that are obvious doesn't really seem that funny to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 08:10 PM
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Is that funny? I don't get how that is funny?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 07:50 PM
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The one's whining probably aren't. The ones who have accepted that it "is what it is" and either get or strive to get the easy sex usually have more useful input.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 07:24 PM
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The men on the receiving end of the easy sex are not the ones complaining about women getting easy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 07:15 PM
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Ok? And who's problem or fault is that besides his? I agree, it's either his or god's. But you seemed to be blaming him for girls getting easy sex when his entire complain was that he wasn't involved in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 06:47 PM
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We see similar concepts in societies without "masses". We see chastity as a female characteristic in societies with a variety of organizational techniques, not only feudalistic ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 06:37 PM
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You're the ones who are having sex with us. I think OP's complaint is that he's not the one having sex. So I wouldn't really group him in with those men you consider responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 06:32 PM
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It doesn't date back to prehistory, it dates back to the foundations of agricultural communities and settled civilisations Then why do we see it all over the world in completely unrelated cultures? They all coincidentally came up with the exact same conspiracy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 06:20 PM
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Ensure to the best of society's ability the paternity of the husband. I don't really think so. If it was only about paternity then we wouldn't see the same drive in women to slut-shame across all cultures. Additionally we tend to see any expression that goes against female chastity to be denigrated across cultures worldwide, not just cheating or cuckolding. I think this aspect plays a role, but doesn't explain all of it. Keep beta males (working classes) docile and content with semi-regular sex.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 03:44 PM
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It took being outed to make them see what they'd become. Yes, men who like to sleep with women, what monsters. They never became it, they always were it, their mistake was letting batshit crazy liberal women know that they normal healthy men and not emasculated wussies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 02:40 PM
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if i were to call you names (narc, borderline, mental, etc.), that would be a personal attack anyone that really buys into core red pill tenets is on the antisocial/narc personality style spectrum Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 02:34 PM
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I see BP is only admitting the most obvious differences like differences in size and strength, the fact that only women bear children, and sexual dimorphism in our ancestors. I'll posit a slightly more controversial but objectively true fact nonetheless. The differences between males is greater than the differences between women. If you look at a distribution chart of pretty much any quantifiable measure split by gender, whether it be height or IQ or whatever, women's distribution is taller and …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 01:49 PM
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To me the uproar sounds more like people are just mad he said he didn't like something they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 11:45 PM
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I can catch a dick anytime I step outside. I don't need to travel abroad to do that. I see I was entirely off base, carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 10:42 PM
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Because Free Speech applies to the government only, not to companies or anything else. Agreed, this is why the company doesn't allow him to say certain things. So his suspension is still within the Free Speech-range. Ok, then you're arguing against a claim no one made.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 09:29 PM
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It's permitted and accepted by the government Ok, how the hell is that relevant? He didn't go to jail, he got suspended. It was also permitted and allowed to be said Then why is he getting punished? Clearly it is not permitted or acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 08:34 PM
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More-so from her username. I find most female world travelers see themselves as some sort of Indiana Jones in Raiders Of The Lost Dick, traveling the world far and wide to find a new dick to sit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 07:53 PM
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he was allowed to allow verb al·low \ə-ˈlau̇\ : to permit (something) : to regard or treat (something) as acceptable So if it was permitted or acceptable, why was he suspended? Which is exactly what I said. No. I said you aren't allowed. I pointed out the rules that don't allow you to say things like that. I'm allowed to speak words, whatever words I choose. No. No you aren't. Your company likely has rules that disallow such speech. You are not allowed to speak whatever words, only acceptable on…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 07:50 PM
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He was allowed to say it He did say it, he wasn't "allowed" to, that's why he got fired. and he is allowed to say it even if he's not on the radio, but his employer is also allowed to decide what they will and won't allow on their station. I don't think you understand the concept of "allowed". If it's against the rules or you will be punished for it, you aren't allowed to do it. I'm allowed to walk into work and call my boss a raging cunt No you aren't. You work likely has rules against harassme…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 07:19 PM
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He's allowed to say it Then why did they kick him off the air? Obviously he wasn't "allowed" to do it. That's like saying a murderer was "allowed" to murder and the police were "allowed" to put him in jail. and the people he works for are allowed to suspend him if they want I don't totally agree with that. BBC is a public service and they should have a commitment to the exchange of free speech on their airwaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 06:12 PM
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The graph is from Christian Rudder's Dataclysm, he is a skilled data scientist and he has access to the largest and most detailed collections of data regarding how we date and form interpersonal relationships. It's a very interesting book and much of it is especially relevant to the subjects of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:47 PM
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Yes they did, for men they found that the age of the women they found attractive had nothing to do with a man's own age. However when they let the men put some age limit criteria down, they do limit themselves relative to their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:43 PM
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No hostility, just having some fun with word choice. My point is that given the way she sounds, she's probably half way through her journey of Chads and STDs and probably not "prime TRP material".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 03:24 PM
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It's more 50/50. I've had women come after me in my younger days. So much so that they actually seek me out by coming up and overtly hitting on me or asking one of my friends to set me up. In my 18 year old awkwardness I was easily able to mess that up and be left scratching my head. Attractiveness will only get you half way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 02:30 PM
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As a woman, the age you find men only physically attractive is generally a function of your own age. In the link, they showed women only pictures of men, no age or anything about them and asked them which they found attractive, then found the median age for the ones women at that age found attractive. So based off looks alone, it's something similar to that graph. However, most women don't go off looks alone, they want someone who is also confident, charismatic, charming, interesting, witty, a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 02:21 PM
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She's the prime age But probably a disease-ridden skank, so most will probably pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 02:13 PM
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Usually plagiarism doesn't really start showing in schools until the 5th grade or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 07:42 PM
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Men and women have more in common biologically than they do not and men actually start out as female in the womb. If that's true, why do we see their roles so clearly defined and segregated throughout the entire world across all recorded history?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 11:08 PM
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At least as creative as a third grader.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 09:54 PM
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The article touches on it. It's got to do with your "lizard brain". Or that part of you that doesn't necessarily work with the logical or reasoning side. People can feel jealous when they reasonably shouldn't, the same way they might feel sad about something they'd rather be happy about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 01:38 PM
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You're creative, aren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 01:34 PM
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I didn't say I agreed with the opinion, you just seemed to not understand it, I was explaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 08:40 PM
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Those are people you know and trust. Does the guy in the story you linked know and trust the cable guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 07:08 PM
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The problem for these women probably has more to do with what they see in a mirror rather than a window.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:33 PM
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I think you're taking this out of context. Imagine your SO is going to be alone with some woman in her house. Is it weird now? The issue is probably the level of alone-ness. It might be fine if they were meeting a stranger in public to sell something, alone with a colleague at work or something like that, but being completely alone with a stranger in a place that has a bed might be the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:30 PM
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James Bond actually this rude, unpleasant, obnoxious guy You're reading too many feminist publications. He is funny, charismatic, does fun stuff and he saves the world. He falls squarely in the "cool guy I would hang out with if I wasn't at risk of getting gunned down" category.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 09:57 PM
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Adam Driver His arms are scrawny.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 09:53 PM
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So while CR is "big" to you I'm 6'4 190, and I'm big to most people. I'll bet he is too. neither of those things mean he is objectively, measurably "strong" It's a pretty safe bet that a guy that is 6 foot 180lb with 8%bf is going to be stronger in any objective measurement than someone who is 5'5 160lb with 16%bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 09:21 PM
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Ronaldo is closer to 165-lbs, and around 7-9% bodyfat. Any evidence? I've got this and pretty much any result from google. But I'm going to go ahead and assume you're full of shit and there's no way that he's 160. The average man today is a pathetic excuse of a physical specimen devoid of masculinity. Ok, well that's our context here, the average guy, and to the average guy, someone who's 6 foot and 180 is big and strong. And none of that has ANYTHING to do with strength Muscles have nothing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:59 PM
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Depends on your goals. If you're skinny and can't keep on weight, cardio is worthless. If you're chubby and need to lose weight to see any muscles, hop on that treadmill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:42 PM
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He's 6 foot 180 lbs with almost 0 bodyfat. That's way bigger and stronger than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:36 PM
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a beautiful guy such as CR7 or this First off, how do you get that face? Hunt one of these guys down, cut if off then wear it as a mask? There's no way to improve that. Secondly THOSE GUYS ARE RIPPED. They are big and strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:06 PM
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Go read my posts and try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 12:07 AM
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A BP feminist and a fundamentalist muslim have similar views on free speech. See, that was easy, although I could have gone with the much easier "they both have very strong views on how other people should behave."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 10:43 PM
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that's not what i was talking about. i've never seen the same level of disdain anywhere but TRP/RP subs you'd be wrong Proof? I tried to look up average worldwide opinion, but the best I could find was a by country breakdown on the opinion of premarital sex. But basing the view on median worldwide income and looking at the views on the subject by that income elsewhere, I would expect that they have a similar view as TRP, that being a slut damages a woman and that it decreases their value to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 09:31 PM
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would that group be considered most people No, but we were talking about what group hates sluts the most, and fundamentalist muslims win, no contest. or is it just an example you conveniently picked to make TRP look better by comparison? I'd say the average worldwide opinion of sluts is similar to TRP's.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 08:13 PM
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Do you not realize that you are comparing yourself to an extremely primitive fundamentalist culture? You're saying TRP hates sluts the most of any group, I disagreed and pointed out the group that I think hates sluts way more. Yes, I did just compare them. I could also compare a BP feminist to fundamentalist muslim because it's easy and you can compare any two things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 07:50 PM
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These guys seem even more mad about it. I don't see many in TRP saying they need to be tortured and murdered.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 07:25 PM
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hate? pretty strong word. In some countries you can literally be stoned to death for being a slut. they may get judged elsewhere Probably with the same judgment as TRP for the vast majority of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 06:34 PM
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Since when is TRP monogamous? In marriage or in any sort of relationship. But, no, we're both outliers-- just in different directions. Most of the world hates sluts. It's not just us.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 06:03 PM
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It is one of the more popular male fetishes. No it's not. It's down there with pegging, diapers, and zoophilia. FFM threesome is the most popular male fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 06:01 PM
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Which do you think is more representative of the world at large? Your sexual degeneracy or TRP's monogamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 05:52 PM
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When does TRP speak to women? If it's not talking to them, how would it encourage them to do anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 05:47 PM
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No, I asked if TRP encouraged women not to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 05:38 PM
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Where does that tell women to do anything? Seems to only offer advice to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 04:18 PM
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Well he was a homosexual and got around a good bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 01:01 PM
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What exactly are you saying then? That TRP encourages women not to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 02:38 AM
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a fully functional human being is not totally dependent upon another We humans depend on others for pretty much anything. Hell we can't even reproduce without someone else being involved. From the food you eat to the bed you sleep on, you depended on someone else for it. Yes, emotionally, but not materially. I think financial independence is more of a goal than a requirement to being a human being. this makes me LESS happy with my man But here's the thing. You chose it. You choose it every day. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 01:59 AM
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I guess you're dropping the whole "I'm a good wife I followed RP's advice and it was wrong" act, but that's fine. Complimentary is ok if you are ok with complete vulnerability. How do you see that? Granted working together or trusting anyone in pretty much any way implies some sense of vulnerability, but I don't see how being complementary makes you completely vulnerable. Where does "vulnerability" play into RP philosophy? You chose to make yourself vulnerable. People should earn your trust and …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 01:22 AM
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I think I could be doing more! Nothing is stopping you from doing what you want. A marriage certificate isn't a house arrest. Granted you may have to stay home to care for very small children for a short time, but there are day care and relatives to care for children. It's only tougher to do on your own. We naturally like to excuse our own failures or lack of action. Things like "I could do X if I wasn't married", but it's not really the marriage that stops you or the location or any of that stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 12:16 AM
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If you are still making progress physically and intellectually, why do you feel you've passed your peak?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 11:15 PM
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I find myself with no life outside of what we've built together. You seem to want to blame this on your husband or your kids, when the blame for it lies solely on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 08:34 PM
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Physically, intellectually, career-wise, I feel I'm at my peak or have passed it. The likely reason for this is because you aren't putting the work in. You can work and raise children. Many people do it. You can study, you can work out. What's stopping you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 08:30 PM
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other guys: probably not, but they probably do better than your local plumber. I know a night club owner, typical sleezy old guy who cycles through young women. The brewery owner I know is a fat hairy dude dating a chick out of his league, worth noting he had little interest from women before he opened and before the brewery became somewhat successful. As for the local coffee shop, I just remembered this story, of guys who got in trouble for recording how well they did with women and instructing…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 09:00 PM
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The guy owning the local general store is probably married to a woman his age or close to it, not a 20 year old model. What about the guy that owns the night club, or the craft brewery, or the hip local coffee shop? The guy with a garage band may have a few local 6/10 groupies There are guys in most cities who are more successful than a "garage band" without being known nationwide, and many are able to have their pick of women that attend their shows. isn't bagging VS models Don't you think thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 08:29 PM
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You don't think these guys aren't major outliers? Sure, but they do have a factor that can overcome their looks. It's not just mega-celebrities either. You can see it with local celebrities like musicians, TV anchormen, business owners etc. I've seen many examples of these types of people being very successful with women. It may be that this is a conscious decision on the woman's part for some, I don't think it is for all of them. I think many of these women are genuinely attracted to these men …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 08:08 PM
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A few RPers showed up and said they were fine with trans people Trans people actually prove TRP's point, that the genders are fundamentally different biologically and not some sort of product of culture or society. why do TRP guys stay when their subreddit is obviously poisoned by angry men? Because I don't feel the need to police his tone or anger. Do you not empathize with these angry men at all? They just want intimacy with another person, something we all want, and they are frustrated that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 01:36 PM
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That still means you care what she thinks even though you care about why she thinks it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 12:24 PM
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Because you see, if my girlfriend held a view like that and didn't discuss it with me That would imply you do care what she thinks of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 03:38 AM
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So you don't care what anyone thinks about you? You don't care if your girlfriend thinks you raped someone or that your mother thinks you kill kittens? Of course you care what people think about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 03:17 AM
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Why don't you just say what you mean? "I don't care what some people I don't know think about me". That would have saved us some time. Then we could get to the real issue of if your friends and family, who's view of you matters, would lose respect for you if they found out your SO was getting banged by another dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 11:52 PM
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any reasonable rebuttal of a point of yours results in you either scaling up your assertion to ridiculous levels I think you just don't realize how your statement was logically exclusive of mine. You said "I don't care what anybody else thinks". Logically if that were true, you wouldn't care if everyone thought you were a murderer. I didn't immediately make that claim, I asked you to re-evaluate that statement by saying "you don't really think that, come on". Basically, you're either a bored tee…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 02:05 PM
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Never been tested, but I doubt it, I'm pretty extroverted and don't have much trouble reading people's emotions, but you don't really care, you're just trying to insult me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 10:25 PM
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I'm just pointing out that you do care what people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 10:01 PM
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hey it might be overblown, but I'm still going to avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 10:00 PM
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You're doing a great job of selling a disease that gives you sores on your dick and spreads to the people you have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 09:06 PM
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Enjoy getting pegged and cucked, I'm sure you already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 08:44 PM
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So everyone you know could think you are some terrible person who did something you didn't do and it wouldn't bother you? Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 08:44 PM
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Well whatever it is, it's not a response to what I'm saying now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 08:14 PM
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How would that be of relevance? I'm asking you how important it is to you what other people think of you. You previously said you didn't care, yet now you talking about how well everyone thinks of you with quite a bit of pride as if it does matter quite a lot to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 08:13 PM
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Do you have any actual response or just baseless accusations against my character?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 08:03 PM
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If they're just arbitrary people, no. What if it's everyone you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 08:02 PM
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So you wouldn't care if people thought you were a child molester or a murderer?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 07:43 PM
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You really can't tell the difference? Not by looking at someone, I can't see in their head. What is the role of intention in your conception of morality? The only person I who's intention I can truly know is my own. I can never know other's intentions, so I can't judge them by it. I can understand the circumstances surrounding that action, I can empathize with them in making the action, but I'll never know their intentions or internal dialog, so it plays no role.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 07:39 PM
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You care about what other people think about you, and you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 07:37 PM
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Loss of respect is a pretty big one. If someone met your girlfriend's other boyfriend, 99% of people are going to look at you like a chump.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 07:34 PM
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One is suppressing, one is not. Aside from the navel-gazing internal dialog, what's the difference? I recommend a course in mindfulness. No thanks, I'll skip this fad
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 07:32 PM
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I think you rationalizing why you shouldn't feel bad some other dude is pounding your girl is a classic case of hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 07:06 PM
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What is the relevance of HSV-1? I thought it was pretty clear given the context of my post which I was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 06:31 PM
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It's about 1 out of 6 people. Did you even google it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 05:45 PM
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Since we're being Un-PC here, I agree, but it's for a different reason. Half of black women in the US have herpes. They are 6 times more likely to have gonorrhea, syphilis, or chlamydia. I mean I'd be willing to have a go if the girl was good looking and could prove she was clean, but otherwise, I'm not taking my chances with those odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 04:12 PM
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The less than 1% of the human race The entire human race? We're now talking about people in huts in Africa? I asked you to narrow this down to the people relevant to the context of our discussion, you've responding by increasing the scope to every human being living. Why stop there, why not tell me about how women can't act slutty because dead people don't use tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 04:02 PM
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'Cause tradition is absolutely an indicator of objective success rates I didn't say that. The poster above me stated that there isn't a "right or wrong" way to deal with jealousy, so I moved on to other quantifiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 03:57 PM
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You think that possessiveness is a RP trait Do you think being cuckolded is RP? you think that demands are attractive I didn't say make demands or be possessive. I only encourage yourself to be honest about your emotions. I think a better solution for jealousy is to get rid of the thing making you jealous rather than passively putting up with it until you finally just get used to it. You think that rationalism is naval-gazing I could have called it "hamstering" but "navel-gazing" invoked more of…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 03:55 PM
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Yeah, she likes money, shame on her!
/r/TheRedPill29/10/15 03:11 PM
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There are roughly 300 million people in the US alone. Ok, but are we talking about dating age people? Or are we including children and the elderly into our analysis of promiscuous women? 50 million people is a huge segment of the younger people we are talking about here. Also, churches are multi-billion dollar too. Many are very against hook-up culture, some to the point of insanity. And which demographic do you think more closely meets ours? I don't think it's unreasonable to say that churches …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 02:13 PM
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Why do you think getting the answer of 'no' after asking women if they are sluts proves that sluts don't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 01:43 PM
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Just curious, what percentage of the population is going to nightclubs and signing up for Tinder? Tinder has had half of a billion matches. Nightclubs are a multi-billion dollar industry. Are those large enough numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 01:42 PM
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Dude, didn't you read his research? He asked women if they were sluts and they all said no, clearly he's proven sluts don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 01:37 PM
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THAT IS NOT SUPPRESSION. You acknowledge it and move on, maybe talk about it and move one or find way to make it work for you like compression. trust me once you have seen who you so will hook up with on the side you want be jealous. Aside from the navel-gazing, what's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 01:34 PM
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I find that focusing on an emotion allows me to deal with it in a healthy manner. Are you sure you don't just navel gaze about it until you're so used to feeling it you just stop noticing, making it easier to ignore?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 01:13 PM
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you work around your anger your jealously and mold it in to compersion. AKA suppress it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 01:12 PM
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bonobos douphins and few other species have sex for fun, they dont mate gaurd while they do it Bonobos and dolphins mate guard in some ways, just like every other mammal. But even if they didn't that would only leave me pretty much every other mammal in the world. you copping out, do the work or dont but dont make excuses. I wasn't making excuses, I was asking you a question. You feel it instead of jealousy. ugh No. It's like anger, I'm angry or I'm not angry. I'm not "the opposite of angry".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 12:45 PM
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Yes, and I thought focusing on them only made them larger. The best way to get rid of an emotion was the opposite of focus.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 12:33 PM
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but you can realize they are rooted in insecurity and overblown fears and not reality I think they're more primal than that. I think the same thing that drives animals to mate guard is what drives our similar feelings. The whole point of thinking through and critically examining your emotions is to allow you to move past them But you can't think your way out of an emotion. I've had dealt with enough women to understand that. You can give her a million valid reasons she shouldn't feel like she do…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 01:38 AM
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I'm advocating taking a hard critical look at jealous feelings to find their root and determine whether or not those fears are based in reality or in insecure hamstering. But what does that navel-gazing accomplish? You can't really change your emotions by sitting on the couch and thinking about them. If you could, people would think themselves happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 12:48 AM
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I'm not sure exactly what you're saying, but I am open to new ideas. But many of these explanations on how they dealt with jealousy sound like euphemisms for suppressing and forgetting it. I'm not saying that isn't a valid way to deal with an emotion, but it doesn't seem like you want to accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 12:46 AM
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Isn't that kind of denial? Not dealing with the stimulus that caused it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 12:43 AM
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If you suppress emotions, you stop feeling them, does that mean you got over it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 09:59 PM
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Shame is a normal human emotion. It is not healthy. Shame is a great way of punishing a kid without violence. He steals a cookie? Bad kid, that's wrong, you shouldn't do that. What emotion do you think he feels? A bunch of unnecessary shaming is bad, but shaming is great. Not trusting is bad in a relationship I don't think that's necessarily true. If your partner was exhibiting all the symptoms of becoming a drug addict, would you necessarily trust them even if they says they're not becoming a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 09:58 PM
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And then I kill it with logic. But that doesn't stop it from existing, it just rationalizes ignoring it. Why do you think ignoring it is best way to deal with jealousy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 09:52 PM
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Take death for example, mourning is such an intense feeling that feels almost impossible to get over. People sometimes choose to suppress it, but most people can't help but just feel it. The difference is only in your description. In both instances the emotion eventually subsides simply due to forgetting about it. Typically, the more you let yourself feel and experience all the different phases and emotions, the easier it gets for you to come to terms with and in a sense, get over it because lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 07:40 PM
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It suggests that there is a fundamental difference between the animal brain and the reasoning one, and that humans have both. I'm pretty sure that was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 07:37 PM
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The psychotherapy and counselling professions would like a word.... I bet it would be more than one. This is the most mystifying aspect of your argument to me. Of course you can, in fact it's the only way to do it. I would argue that there are only two ways, neither involves rationalizing. Either you remove the stimuli causing the emotion, or you don't and you simply start getting used to it, effectively suppressing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 07:08 PM
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Because it's a natural physical reaction Isn't jealousy that too? Isn't it possible that you've just gotten used to and suppressed the jealousy? I think you're confusing not feeding into emotions with suppressing them. What's the difference between the two? Both just say "I'm not going to get involved with it, I'll just wait for it to go away" Something outside of myself might make me feel immediately sad, but I can quickly choose to focus my energy on something else and choosing to feel better.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 07:06 PM
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I'm not the only one to suggest these two things are different
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:59 PM
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Negative emotions arise and I deal with them. Why would they arise if you control them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:56 PM
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Jealousy is not a basic emotion Even animals mate guard. Do you really think the jealousy that drives us to mate guarding is any different from what they do? its called compersion From my googling, that's a made up word created by people like you to rationalize just suppressing and getting accustomed to jealousy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:55 PM
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I knew you'd come to my thread I wub u 2 bbgurl
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:52 PM
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It takes practice, but anyone can control their emotions. So then you must be happy all the time and never sad if that is true. Why doesn't everyone know, you've found the key to eternal happiness. but I can control it making me miserable or paranoid Or you could have just gotten used to it so it doesn't cause the same effect anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:51 PM
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To suppress something is to push it down and ignore it- "yeah she's prettier and that sucks so but I will just hope I get over it." Where as what OC was talking about is instead of ignoring it, you actively deal with it. The second option just sounds like navel-gazing over it until you get used to it, basically the same as the first option with extra useless introspection. I don't think any amount of reasoning will change the emotion you feel. If you can then people would talk themselves out of …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:49 PM
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With enough emotional processing jealousy becomes something more manageable That just sounds like euphemism for burying it. I had a deep and long conversation with my partner and have since then let go of that pain. Was it that navel-gazing that healed it or was it simply time that helped you just grow accustomed to it and suppress it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:44 PM
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the relationship will fail if you suppress feelings What's the effective difference between the two? If you're honest with yourself about your feelings, open them up and clear them out so you no longer have them, that is the way to get over anything- including jealousy. You just have to attack the source. That equates to navel-gazing. It doesn't solve anything. You can sit there and think about how you're not going to be jealous anymore, but it won't change how you feel. The only think that will…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:42 PM
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I'd be immediately offended So your emotional reaction would be anger or offense or something like that? I though you said you chose that? still choose my reaction Sure, I never said you don't control how you act, you just don't control how you feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:39 PM
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So when you start to feel angry, do you let it take total control or are you ever able to talk yourself down? I don't really have to do either honestly. I believe that we are always responsible for our emotional reactions. If you told someone to go fuck themselves, they got angry at you and told you that you made them angry, would you say "hey you're responsible for your own emotions!" or would you recognize that their emotions are responses to external stimuli and that you caused them to be ang…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:18 PM
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How would you? If they were the exact same except for their internal monologue, how would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:15 PM
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I don't think any level of focus fundamentally changes our emotions. I think they are natural responses to external stimuli. The only way to change them is to become accustomed to the stimuli so you forget it's there, or remove or change the stimuli itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:13 PM
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I acknowledge that it's my own insecurities But is it? Furthermore, does realizing that help at all? You can't talk yourself out of jealousy any more than you can talk yourself out of depression or talk yourself into happiness. Recognizing that you have the power to change your state of mind usually makes people feel a lot better. But I think that's kind of a lie. You can't change your mind just by internally or externally talking to it. If we could, no one would be sad and everyone would be hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:11 PM
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If you watched two different people handling it by suppressing it or whatever other way people are talking about, could you tell the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:09 PM
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If talking controls your emotions, why haven't we all talked ourselves into being happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 05:35 PM
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but it best for you to weed it out. But that's like saying weed out sadness or fear or any other emotion. You can't control them. If you could, no one would ever be depressed or feel anything but happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 05:34 PM
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I don't feel line I'm suppressing it. I acknowledge it and then move on. How's that different than suppressing it? I don't think that feeling jealous benefits me or my relationships in any way, so I don't feed into it. But that's like saying "I don't think being sad helps me so I just don't be sad". You can't help feeling sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 05:32 PM
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When you unpack some thing you are telling you partner about it. you are expressing your fears and being heard. it more for you than them. But again, talking doesn't effect your emotions, otherwise we'd all talk ourselves into being happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 05:28 PM
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What does exploring why I'm jealous have to do with the idea that I shouldn't be jealous? No amount of navel gazing is going to change the feeling. You just begin to suppress it over time, the navel gazing just bides the time. If you question why you're pissed off, does that necessarily mean you're trying to pretend that you're not? It's often in an effort to not be pissed off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 05:02 PM
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Not to say I never feel jealous, or that I believe it's evil to feel jealous. I just prefer to feel otherwise. So you just suppress the jealousy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 04:40 PM
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Well, why is rejection scary for you? We're not really talking about me, we're talking about theoretical guy anxious around women. But ultimately, what's the difference? What amount of thinking causes him to lose the fear? I'd argue that the part of the brain that pushes out that feeling of fear is fundamentally disconnected from the part of the body that thinks about things logically. That's why no amount of reasoning will actually alleviate the fear. The only way to actually get rid of the fea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 04:36 PM
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said to figure out why you're afraid You already know why, you're afraid of rejection, what does knowing that help? You're just going to tell yourself that you won't be rejected or that rejection isn't that bad or whatever, but that doesn't effect the fear you will still feel no matter how long you sit on the couch and think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 04:29 PM
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"I recognize that other people that have a certain quality are attractive and I don't have that quality and I get afraid sometimes that you're so into this other person because of that quality that you'll leave me or at least become upset that I don't display that quality". It's all in an effort to invalidate and suppress your feeling of jealousy. Whether you're saying you shouldn't have it because it's unfounded, it's irrational, it's untrusting, whatever. They are all rationalizations of why y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 04:27 PM
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Reasons you shouldn't be jealous, reasons why your jealousy is unfounded, whatever, they are all reasons you're telling yourself why your jealousy shouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 04:22 PM
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Have you ever been, say, really frightened of asking a girl out? And then you think to yourself "huh, I wonder why I'm afraid"? Sure but I could tell myself a million and one reasons why I shouldn't be afraid, that doesn't make me any less scared. Go to /r/foreveralone and tell them why they shouldn't be afraid of women, it won't make them any less scared of women. It's not the talking that alleviates the fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 04:21 PM
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Suppressing is pretending they don't exist. And what's the functional difference between that and telling yourself why you they shouldn't exist? One just seems like the rationalization of the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 04:17 PM
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I disagree. I think fear and anger are normal emotions that healthy people should feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 04:10 PM
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I still don't understand what are the real differences between "unpacking" and suppressing. It sounds like unpacking is just a euphemism for suppressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 04:09 PM
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No one is supposed to suppress anything. What polyamory does aim to do is be frank and honest with our emotions Functionally what is different about them? One just sounds like a euphemism of the other. What's different between the two besides how you rationalize them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 04:07 PM
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Jealousy is like having a pain in your foot. Not really. Jealousy is an emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 04:06 PM
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I think jealousy is, for the most part one's own fears and insecurities and a lack of trust and honesty. I disagree. I think it is more primal. Something like pain or happiness. We see mate guarding in animals, they likely feel a similar emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:57 PM
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You don't feel it after you suppress it. It seems like the difference between suppressing and "unpacking" only exists in your head. Rationalizing why you shouldn't have it, telling yourself you don't have it, then pushing it down any time it comes up seems exactly like suppressing the emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:55 PM
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Therefore, jealousy is an unattractive trait Only if you show it. It seems like you would be lying to yourself to say you didn't feel it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:48 PM
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I felt jealousy, I acknowledged and owned the emotion, worked past it and no longer feel it. That seems like the same thing as suppressing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:47 PM
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Its not suppressing an emotion, I don't feel jealous over specific things anymore because I understand what caused it, got over those things and moved on. So then you felt and feel depression you just don't acknowledge it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:26 PM
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I identify as neither male nor female So do you ideally have a dick, a pussy, or some combination of both?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:55 PM
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So they identify as a man or a breastless female?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:54 PM
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I don't think that either way of dealing with jealousy is the "right" way or the "wrong" way. Certainly one has been proven to work better and been around longer. I don't think suppressing a natural emotion works. All the posts on /r/relationships are about relationships not working That's a place specifically for relationship advice, not /r/couples, where people in a relationship just hang out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:50 PM
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If you're not exclusive, what's the point of the "relationship"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:32 PM
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The red pill tastes bitter because that's the only way it works. If you could make one that worked as well without tasting as bad, it would have eclipsed TRP long ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:29 PM
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I meant common reference points - Generationally related. Again, I think personality has more to do with it. You're also implying that the older guy has more in common and that the younger guy speaks like an Neanderthal. No, I'm just pointing out that the same person generally improves those skills over 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 12:55 AM
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It means we relate on many subjects by the very nature of our experiences. I'd argue that we relate to one another more by personality and communication style rather than experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 12:33 AM
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do I value my common experience with peer Why do you think people find that attractive? Do you really think someone says "wow you have no real world experience just like me, I'm so turned on by that"? IME most women aren't going after older men simply for their "wealth of knowledge." But if you have two pretty much identical guys, one has knowledge and experience and the other doesn't and still has some residual teenage awkwardness, which one would women pick? It's not about wealth, I mean somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 10:43 PM
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Well you can rationally think it out. If you stay in the same shape, don't get any disfiguring scars and spend at least some time improving yourself, you're going to get more attractive than you are now. It starts to drop off when you bald and wrinkle; but that usually happens later than 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 09:07 PM
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The only real thing older men have on dudes her own age is "money and resources." Really? In 10 years you don't think the guys did anything else besides traded time for money? You don't think they traveled or got better at dealing with people or talking to people or any number of other ways they could improve themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 09:03 PM
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Meager goals for a whole 10 years. Either way, that still only makes you more attractive than you are right now. I'd be willing to bet that 30 year old you could take home 20 year old you's girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 09:00 PM
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there is nothing that the average 30 year old man has on me I bet I thought that when I was your age too. A lot of people actually use that additional ten years get smarter and all around better at life. I know more than you, I've travelled more than you, I'm better at talking to people than you because I've talked to more people, I understand how people work better than you because I've dealt with more people. I know more about life because I've lived more of it. You've barely spent any time ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 08:53 PM
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So already, he's likely starting more disadvantaged. Then what the hell does that have to do with the age of the person they married?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 08:46 PM
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I think this is a great example. Now think about it. If the two were separable, why would they have ever been joined? If they were separable, why wouldn't anyone have done it by now? You friend isn't a racist, right? Why would he have arbitrarily chose to paint a swastika there? In TRP there's a section on TRP for women, for gay men, for married men, you think if it were possible, why would there not be a section for not-woman-hating-but-still-getting-laid? Why would it not be the main sub? Why …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 05:58 PM
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You know who does? You? This thread is an exact example of YOU doing exactly what you're describing. Are you a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 07:47 PM
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My point is neither welfare itself (cash payments to the poor) nor what you argue are "forms of welfare" (non cash benefits for the poor) need to be made temporary because they already are. Yet we both just named several that are not necessarily temporary.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 05:53 PM
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I'm not sure what you're arguing then, because it seems like you're agreeing with me that there are permanent forms of welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 05:09 PM
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Without this approval, you are Shit. Worthless. Not even a real man. I don't know where this idea comes from to be honest. Are you really having trouble seeing how someone who has failed at something repeatedly for years would begin to see themselves as a failure? Being rejected is painful, it's not an "idea" you have to "get from anywhere".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 02:37 PM
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I would describe welfare more as a variety of services ranging from food stamps to tax credits to housing assistance. Just because TANF is not permanent doesn't mean there aren't permanent forms of welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 02:33 PM
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You can get SNAP/food stamps indefinitely if you don't make enough money. They absolutely do exist. Granted TANF is not permanent, but EITC, SNAP, Medicaid, and housing assistance are effectively still forms of welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 02:28 PM
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If you don't have any sort of response but insults I don't care to argue with you either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 04:19 PM
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And are completely unrelated to whether I have to find sex special and feel jealousy. Nope, all part of the same instinctual drive. But I might be bi, under the right circumstances, or even if I just rationally chose to find out whether I have any bi interests by going out and finding a willing gay dude, of which there are no shortage. You're not gay, you never will be, you can't change it, just accept it. I've never said any aspect of sexuality is entirely cultural You said this one was, stop b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 01:24 PM
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pretty much all are You dont control what gender you find attractive. You don't control who you find attractive. Those are sort of the biggest components of sexuality and they are entirely out of your control. I can be, in practical terms You can't be in any terms. even though in this debate you have been roundly trounced, over and over again Really? Then what about mate guarding being some sort of religious society caused thing made to protect post-agriculutural property rights or whatever? You…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 12:23 AM
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Because some elements of my sexual behavior are rationally controllable, it does not necessarily true that all are. You should try repeating that a few more times so you actually understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 08:51 PM
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I didn't say fuck one, I said change what gender you are attracted to. Make yourself find men sexually attractive and women sexually unappealing. It should just be easy since you consciously control your sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 01:46 PM
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You (incorrectly) believe that rationality can't trump evolution Ok. Then be choose to be attracted to men. I'll just leave you with some quotes I found Did they have sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 10:54 PM
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I'm starting with trying to sleep 1am-c.9-10pm It's because you're not doing enough. If you can't get to sleep easily it's because your body was half asleep all day. Get busier and wake up early, you'll have no trouble sleeping. already doing this minus 'cook for yourself' It's too expensive to eat out, and it's not very adult to expect your parents to do it. It's a useful skill and it's not that hard, give it a try. Does it have to be intense every day? If you are having trouble sleeping I woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 07:16 PM
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I suppose I took it more as "only have sex with men who treat you well" rather than using it as dog treats. But if that's the way it's meant I would agree with you.
/r/TheRedPill23/10/15 03:15 PM
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teaching young girls that sex should be a reward for men who put them on a pedestal and treat them well Terrible advice that will lead to poor results. It's actually decent advice for women, and it's the kind of thing that RPW espouses.
/r/TheRedPill23/10/15 02:49 PM
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I am trying to come up with creative ways to "debate" the RP. I think you mean pester. Seriously, get a life. There's got to be something better that you can do besides trying to be the lamest troll ever. if you need to insist i'm crying, i'm fine with that. but to suggest that RP doodz aren't emotional cry babies themselves? I don't know if they are, I'm sure you're whining in this thread about some other threads, but I don't care enough to find the link. The fact that you are whining here show…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 02:00 PM
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Here's what you need to do dude. Sleep normally, go to bed at 10pm wake up at 6am, do this everyday. Get a job, right now your job is to apply for jobs. Try to apply to as many as you can, you do this from 7 am to 5 pm, Monday-Friday. No internet goofing off until you're done. Eat better. Cut out processed foods, cook for yourself Exercise. Do some sort of exercise every other day. When you've done all that shit, then you can worry about your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 01:56 PM
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Better than making a thread whining about being reported for breaking the rules right there -> boo hoo I got in trouble for doing something wrong grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 01:43 PM
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Consider TRP has an entire plan to make women have sex when they don't want to by making them fear that you are cheating on them. What's the problem with that? If you aren't having sex with a significant other, you should be worried that he will get it somewhere else. I don't see anything wrong with making that concern more obvious. If you don't want to have sex with a guy regularly, why are you even with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 01:39 PM
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an example of how fair or unfair society is to men? Maybe just more about how society is unfair for people with money. He's just a south african OJ Simpson.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 01:26 PM
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Maybe you're just getting reported because you're breaking rule 3 on this sub, just like you did with this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 01:25 PM
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If you'd just said "monogamy is commonplace, many animals pair bond and while they do, mate guard, and most humans do something analogous, but hey, ymmv and good luck to anyone who follows a different path" we could have saved ourselves a lot of discussion. Glad you got there in the end though. That more or less is what I said. My position hasn't really changed. Here's my original response to you: The belief that sex is different is the prevailing belief since pretty much the beginning of time. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 12:45 PM
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then your beef with non-mono people doing exactly the same is what, exactly? What beef? Whats with the persecution complex? I'm not out to get you, I don't give a shit what you do. This debate started with my claim that sex is not inherently special. I explained that it is, by the fact that it's something we and animals share in common, and that it doesn't have to be taught. It's much different from the other things we do, and it is special. I don't need the same validation as you, so I don't bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 12:07 AM
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So gay people are also wrong but lying to themselves Not at all, by not being gay they are lying to themselves. They can pretend to be straight, but ultimately they are gay, it's not something they control. And how exactly does non-monogamy hurt anyone? I doesn't, I never said it did. It's a valid sexual orientation, just like being gay is. It's not a sexuality, cuckoldry is a kink. lifelong monogamy the like of which you espouse is vanishingly scarce. I never espoused lifelong monogamy. I just …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 09:56 PM
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that everyone's sexuality is not tractable to rational control That's easy to prove. Did you choose to be attracted to the opposite sex? Was your sexuality tractable to your rational control? And you are making a moral judgement, by saying non-mono is contrary to evolution. That's not a moral judgement. If humans began breeding individuals without opposable thumbs I would say it's contrary to evolution, that doesn't mean I'm saying those people are evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 09:54 PM
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You're telling me in a degenerate. You are I'm telling you you're a bigot. I'm not putting any moral judgement on you. I don't care what you do, but don't pretend it's not way outside the norm for humans and even many primates. Where do you stand on gay marriage? Doesn't bother me. I recognize their sexual preferences are innate and there's nothing they can do to change them except for lie to themselves. What they do doesn't hurt anyone so I don't have a problem with them. And yeah, about 14. Ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 08:59 PM
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We are going in circles, because you keep making claims you can't justify. I made three you can't argue against, the only way you respond to them is by calling me a "sheeple". I have no problem with a claim that monogamy is default, or even that it's valid. Yet you keep calling it "nonsense". Where I have a problem is when some pussy-ass punk calls me a degenerate If you don't think you're a degenerate when you let someone else fuck your wife, then you just don't know what the word means. You do…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 08:29 PM
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Oh, and following the majority view just because it's held by that majority? I'm not telling you to follow any view. If you have 6 toes on a foot and I point out that most people have 5, I'm not implying you should cut one off. That's the definition of being a sheeple. Well you asked how old I am, I'm going to guess how old you are, 14?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 08:25 PM
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Again with the dogma, again with no proof. What's to root of the insecurity that demands that you believe this nonsense so fervently? I feel like we're going in circles here. There's the fact that animals mate guard, the fact that pretty much every culture recorded had a monogamous partnering ceremony, and then there's the fact that having sex with someone other than your partner is looked down upon by 99% of modern society. Again with the dogma, again with no proof. What's to root of the insecu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 06:22 PM
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It doesn't have to feel bad. It doesn't have to hurt. It does, and it's simply something you can't change. Read /r/polyamory for a little while. Read about how many of those relationships fail or how every other post is "why isn't this working". It's not that these people are trapped up in religious upbringing or can't overcome it due to lack of will, they want to, but they just can't. It's totally not a problem. My partner doing the same causes me absolutely no discomfort. Not hurt feelings tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 01:25 PM
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just that it can be overridden You don't really override it, you just live with the bad feeling. Is like the case of a hot guy who's having a bad run of luck so steps down the food chain and bangs a fattie Why? Why not just be with someone you don't have to put up with those bad feelings? Why not be with a woman that respects you enough not to hurt you by banging some other dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 01:02 AM
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You think this stuff is all innate and only natural, subconscious and impossible to override. I never said that, I merely said that you would feel it. I claim I'm not a monkey and have enough forebrain to make rational decisions about my sexuality. Since you're not a monkey, did you choose come to a rational decision about whether you are attracted to men and women? How did you rationally choose what type of woman you are attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 11:55 PM
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so red pill is a much different sub now is your argument? Well it has had a huge influx of new users over that course of time, that's pretty much undeniable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 11:05 PM
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That's a big part of the why No it's not, it's a symptom not a cause. The 'why' is all evolution. I don't believe that monogamy as we practice it is "natural" or universally optimal. You apparently didn't think mate guarding was natural until I showed you monkeys did it. just that they don't think about why They don't have a why, it's innate, it's subconscious. They probably don't think about why hot people are attractive, because it's built in. And you've been claiming that I have to feel revul…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 10:22 PM
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Do you have something that isn't 2 years old? Because the age is a much more valid complaint than your suggestion of problems with how it samples.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 10:15 PM
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I've never disputed the commonality of this, in fact I'd say it's the default setting That's a big step back from "it's brainwashed into you by a puritanical post-agrarian society" The issue is with your silly claim that this is mandatory I never made such a claim, I'm sure you can convince yourself that it's not there, but you're really just lying to yourself. just as many good care givers are not biologically related to those they care for not really
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 09:57 PM
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there could still be racist sub associations presently and the extraction model didn't find them because it's based on 1000 posts that change every iteration, and are not necessarily representative enough to find every sub association. So you're saying there's possibly maybe a little bit of possible tenuous an association between TRP and some racist sub, maybe, possibly? Don't you think you're really reaching here? Why don't you stick to calling TRP narcissist and give the racism thing a rest?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 09:55 PM
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Yeah, it's just me. For real though, mate guarding is in your blood, same as the drive to protect your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 08:21 PM
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i think the link between red pill and racism is far more common and credible than your idea/speculation that it's cherry picked But see, he has actual evidence that you cherry picked old data while you have....? It's just another one of your failed GOTCHA! attempts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 07:39 PM
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Well it obviously wasn't the academic track at the Navy Seals, your language comprehension difficulties are showing. it's a joke bro I'm no longer surprised to see supposed tough guys who are so dependent on the affections of a woman for their validation. It's not about any dependence or anything. It's simply a natural process. Nurture isn't everything, especially when it comes to sex, it's mostly nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 06:44 PM
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many people don't feel shitty at all when they think about their partner getting sexual pleasure Are you that disconnected with reality? Search term "cheating" and maybe bring your feet back down to this planet. the phenomenon is commonplace What planet do you live on? People do not feel happy when their SO cheats on them. Rational self-control is what builds civilizations. Sex is another thing that does it. Specifically a certain kind of sex, that is monogamous. That is the kind we see in every…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 06:26 PM
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I'm explaining to you why it makes you feel so shitty when your significant other has sex with someone else. This is a reaction that pretty much ubiquitous outside of circles of sexual degeneracy which you are no doubt a part of. For normal, non-deviant, people. They feel this innate disgust because of this natural innate reaction, similar to the other subconscious functions, maybe like the innate disgust you might feel while looking at a naked really old, fat or ugly woman or man. This is how t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 05:45 PM
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besides if you came over here and said that to my face I'd give you a sharper dose of learning I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, etc. I've explained my capabilities quite clearly. Can you fully control your dick independent of any outside stimulation? Can you control it just by thinking about moving it? You assert sex is some special process but you have no actual consistent evidence for your claim. I've given you tons. The fact that sex is not a learned process b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 05:22 PM
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There is, it's just on tumblr instead of reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 05:10 PM
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I have quite enough control over my erection Really? Can you just make your dick go up and down like your arm? Stop lying to yourself. The world is a lot more complicated than you think it is. A lot. Actually I think you're trying to simplify the world by reducing a very complicated innate biological process into something simple and conscious. It's not. Sexual interaction is governed by a combination of conscious and subconscious processes, your failure to understand the subconscious ones are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 04:49 PM
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Be yourself If you suck, change yourself. I can't believe that you don't see that those two pieces of advice are contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 01:28 PM
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Get a job and move out. Don't focus on anything else. Don't read this site, don't even get on your computer except to fill out job applications and print your resume.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 01:23 PM
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Please, cite the scientific journals that tell me I'm compelled to have an erection when I see a hot woman. It's not necessarily that. It's that you don't have full control over it. You don't have to see other people lift their arms to lift yours do you? Then why do you need to see porn to get an erection? Because it doesn't work like lifting your arm. You don't have full control over it. You won't find too many scientific journals that talk about it. You could look in a middle school health cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 01:15 PM
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Um, sure. I can do that, have done since forever. If I'm in a quiet space, free of distraction, I can think myself into a boner without too much trouble, and if I have one, I can turn it off with relative ease. It's a scientific fact that men have limited control over their erections. Stop talking shit. I don't think it would quite work in reverse though, I couldn't watch fattie porn and get turned on, for instance. So you admit you don't have control over your erection. Where's that lizard brai…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 12:42 PM
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That's a defeatist attitude. I believe we can become the people we want to be through hard work because I've done it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 12:37 PM
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I just have a mind, and use it. I honestly can't think of an aspect of my sexuality that I cannot control. Raise and lower your boner at will by telling it to get up. Use your mind to redirect blood flow to your penis. Get an erection from an old ugly woman. Give it a go, maybe you're magical. Your repeated assertion that sexual jealousy is instinctual Animals mate guard. How is that not evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 12:59 AM
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You're just being difficult. Suppose someone is naturally a loud talker or they don't act very friendly or they're shy or whatever. There's only one way to fix it, and it's fixing your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 10:36 PM
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Ok, then what advice would you give someone who is naturally an asshole? Just find friends that are weak enough to put up with him? Or change himself and maintain that change to not be an asshole? That's the same advice I'd give to a submissive man. Change himself, don't expect other to change or put up with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 10:25 PM
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Why not? They have to make themselves be dominant. They have to use the same self control to keep from reverting to their old disgusting selves as a formerly fat person has to use to keep themselves from eating their way into being a fat person again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 10:20 PM
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Monkeys and other animals don't possess our level of rationality. Sure, but that rationality isn't involved in getting your dick hard. Are you a man or a monkey? When it comes to sex stuff? Doesn't make much of a difference. I didn't decide what makes a woman hot, I just feel it and then I observe it. Why exactly do I have to be a slave to my biological urges, again? Same reason why you have two legs instead of three, it's just how your body is made. There is some level of control, but you're ly…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 10:19 PM
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We have all met boys who seem naturally "submissive" even at a young age . They actually like it when the woman takes control of the relationship . How can these people overcome their nature ? I was naturally skinny. I became muscular. If I stopped working I'd probably be skinny again. I'm not fake muscular, I just have to maintain it. The same goes for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 08:17 PM
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claiming sex is special, then eating etc. are also special, then they're all different. Sex is special. Eating is special. They are both different. What part of those statements are contradictory? Sex is a human bodily function. So is eating, so is shitting. Etc. No. Sex is more like an innate drive like fight or flight, you won't die if you don't do it. I would describe shitting as a bodily function, but not sex or eating. You assert it's because sex is intrinsically special, but have yet to ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 07:55 PM
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Nothing's wrong with average, but the guy above me was pretending like he was getting a top tier girl just because chad pumped and dumped her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 04:43 PM
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special - adjective spe·cial \ˈspe-shəl\ - different from what is normal or usual; especially : unusual in a good way : better or more important than others http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/special
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 12:35 PM
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Hang on, you were just saying they were all special. Make up your mind. They are special. Eating is different from fucking is different from shitting. I don't give a fuck what "most men" do, I'm not a sheep. Most men don't stick their face in a deep frier. Are you a rebel or a sheep? And besides, why do I need a "bond" with her, again? That's up to you, but if I have any sort of commitment to a woman, I expect her to be exclusive and respect me. You need constant validation by having a woman und…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 01:15 AM
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I'm happy to treat fucking, eating, and similar animal functions in the same way. But they aren't the same. They effect you in different ways. I'm not disgusted if my wife has coffee and a muffin, or a three course feast, with someone else. It's just food. Most men dislike being cuckolded. They feel it reduces the bond they share with their partner, and they are right. My lizard brain is on a leash, and I hold the other end. You can tell yourself that, but you're just lying. If your wife cheats …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 12:56 AM
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Although monogamous marriage is the common model (something I have never disputed), to call all the various variants of it that have existed over time the same thing is profoundly dishonest. I'm saying they are strikingly similar. I pointed out the similarities. There's nothing dishonest about that. I don't see your point about sex being special because it's old in evolutionary terms. So is eating and shitting. Eating and shitting are pretty special. You don't have to be taught to do them. Every…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 11:35 PM
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Post-agrarian, western cultures, sure. I guess you're just not familiar with marriage in non-western cultures. Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Australian Aboriginal, all have those same similarities. Sex is not intrinsically special, in some magico-spiritual sense. So magic doesn't exist? What a revelation! It's just evolution's way of making more animals. No, evolution is life's way of making better animals. Without sex evolution shrinks to a crawl. Evolution still exists without sex and you can get…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 08:25 PM
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Wow, all those cads and chads wanted her, yet she's with ME now But they aren't picky, they want pretty much any decent looking woman. Congratulations you got average!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 07:00 PM
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Got any proof? You can look at 99% of cultures and they will have these similarities: Between man and woman Virginity is important Female youth is important Occurs after menarche Marriage ceremony immediately precedes consummation These similarities exist between cultures that are eons apart or half the world apart. These people vary more in skin color than they do in marriage traditions. Before reliable contraception, you could not have genetically based property inheritance while fucking who y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 01:49 PM
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And, if by "all of known history", you mean since the start of agricultural society, then the answer is: for property reasons. No, I mean all of known history. for property reasons Why? You could just as well have such property claims while fucking whoever you want. Marriage isn't the only way to do that, it is, however, the only way we see pretty much around the world and throughout history. People could just as well pick heirs or communal or even split with offspring or whatever. Property righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 08:23 PM
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This is a common social hangup, brought about by years of indoctrination. The belief that sex is different is the prevailing belief since pretty much the beginning of time. It doesn't even have to be taught. If you raised children with no outside world connection, they would grow up knowing how to do 3 things: fight, feed, and fuck. Sex is wired into your brain at a primal level because all your ancestors down to billions of years ago have been doing it. It is different. Sex isn't special, it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 02:53 PM
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Sex is different. Do you mind thinking about your mom cutting someone's hair? What if she's getting fucked by a guy? A little different right? Do you think a woman held at knifepoint and forced to cut hair would be effected the same as a woman raped at knifepoint? They're not the same and you know it. Stop lying to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 03:33 PM
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It's just her job. What if her job was scat porn? Would you say "well it's just a job" or would it make you feel disgusted that the "love of your life" is eating some random dude's shit? Stop trying to lie to yourself, you know why people don't like thinking about a person they share an intimate connection with getting railed by some random dude for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 03:10 PM
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thats a troll dude
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 05:01 AM
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Nothing wrong with doing or accepting favors, but you have to be aware of the effect they have on how others respect you. I have a hard time with sales because most sales organizations do not actually care about their customers. You shouldn't mess with retail sales, it's shit and commision is too low for the work you put in. Get in B2B sales. Don't sell a phone plan, don't sell a phone, sell a corporate lease on phones, sell phone software. That's where the money is if you're good at it.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/15 06:45 PM
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Ask yourself what kind of guys are we talking about in this context, read the posts above, and you should know what we're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 06:37 PM
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you knew it was 1/(however many billion females there are in the world), your bitching was meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 05:19 PM
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Wow. Really living up to your superior female meaningless-nagging skills there
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 04:48 PM
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I just don't think they are that significant Compared to what? They are more significant that the difference between people of different races. They are less significant than the difference between humans and monkeys. I don't see the need to place them in some sort of scale unless you were specifically trying to ignore them or write them off as not meaningful, which is what you're probably trying to do. I don't think there is a rational basis for placing either sex in a superior status over the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 04:41 PM
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That whole thread is like some guy just yelling at the sky "WHY ARE YOU RAINING ON ME, YOU'RE MAKING ME WET AND I DON'T LIKE IT!". Sorry bro, that's the way it is. You should be glad this woman is telling you the harsh truth rather than a gentle lie.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/15 04:34 PM
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I think, without an actual study to refer to, all of this is theoretical. It's not a study. I looked at two examples, Serena Williams getting beat by the 200 ranked man, and the US women's national team getting blown the fuck out by male high school aged olympic trainees. Maybe we should look at an actual measure: I see you cherry picked the one that body differences play the smallest role. And that's only for athletic ability, which is not really that important for our survival as a species tod…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 04:26 PM
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The more women you practice being charismatic with, the better you get at it. And as you get better, you can extract different types of value from different women depending on what they're good at and what you might like from them. Get this woman to lend you a car, get this woman to give you a place to stay, get this woman to help you get set up with a job, and get this woman to give you massages and occasional sex. If you get that good at charming people, stop leeching favors off of people and …
/r/TheRedPill16/10/15 03:54 PM
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The 200th best man is still in the top 0.0000000571% percent of men, out of 3.5 billion. And the top 1 woman is in the top 0.000000000000000000000001% of women out of however many billion. The top female athletes do just fine with the bottom 95% of male athletes. Not really, they still get creamed. Maybe the bottom 75%, maybe. but that's only the top 1% of female athletes. What about the other 99% that can't even compete with the worst male athletes? There's not that much overlap in athletics, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:46 PM
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There is actually no "gap" at all on pretty much any measure. Then why can't women compete with men in athletics? Why does the 1st best woman in tennis get creamed by the 200th best man? Why does the women's national soccer team get creamed by high schoolers? If there was overlap, they could compete, but they can't, because our bodies are actually different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:16 PM
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Elam claims to be an expert at TRP If he was he could run a conference, even a woman can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 02:42 PM
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If they are being discarded by women, then in some sense of the word, they're trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:58 AM
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You don't think that an individual's tendency toward crime or invention has environmental factors? I never said that, however you did say that it gender factors didn't play a role, which is obviously false. I'd say gender plays an even bigger part than environmental factors. In pretty much every environment that has ever existed on the entire planet through known history, men have been more violent, and men have been the leaders. At some point you can't mark that down to coincidence. As that cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 08:55 PM
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sick burn m8
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 08:38 PM
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No, you end up with a graph like this. The disparities are actually different by gender the distributions are taller for women and wider for men. Same thing with IQ, athletic ability, height, all that kind of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 08:37 PM
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Sorry, I meant apart from the physical. I'll believe that when women commit as men crimes as men or invent as much shit as them. The more and more women that have the opportunity to compete in upcoming years, the smaller the difference between men's and women's world records is going to become. That's stupid. The height differential between men and women hasn't changed, the muscle to weight differential between men and women hasn't changed, why would their athletic ability be able to get equal t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 04:14 PM
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I'll believe that as soon as women start breaking men's athletic world records.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 03:54 PM
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find me a synonym for "something no one wants and everyone casts aside" and use that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 02:58 PM
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How would you plan on getting aroused by these pieces of human trash? Just carry a backpack full of KY?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 01:18 PM
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Well he's full of shit. That's basically pointing out that the absolute best female tennis player can beat the absolute worst male tennis player. Obviously we all know that Serena Williams could demolish Stephen Hawking in a game of tennis, but that ignores the large gap between skill levels that falls between the two genders and is essentially why we have them compete by gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 01:16 PM
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Do you honestly believe that a person who lacks ambition and motivation has the capability to go through a 4 year college program, for example, in order to get a good degree and a better job? Does TRP usually recommend that? A person who lacks ambition would fail out of college after their first semester. Depends on the major.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 04:25 PM
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There was a post on TRP the other day praising the British empire. There's posts on the regular praising the Mongol Empire and Genghis Khan for conquering most of the world and implanting his DNA on most of mankind.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 04:04 PM
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You are focusing on the beautiful exterior (good looks, good job, nice clothes) but completely ignoring the foundation (personality, personal values, long term life goals, healthy self-esteem, etc), and your chirade will quickly collapse. You're looking at those two things independently. They don't work like that, they effect each other. If you get more successful and attractive, you become more confident. You have more self esteem, you get better values and goals. Your mistake is you're trying …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 01:06 PM
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but it's what will keep her attracted to you It killed pretty much every relationship for me pre-trp. It inevitably ended up in a dead bedroom. Something about being nice just dries up pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 03:38 AM
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If you're a willfully unemployed adult and living with your parents, it's a drain on them. One they chose to take on, who are you to judge the financial arrangements between two consenting adults if they are both doing what makes them happy? (Note: I'm not knocking adults who live at home but still work/are actually trying to find work, who pay for their own things, contribute financially, etc. I'm only talking about the ones who aren't trying at all to do anything.) Now we're getting there. Why…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:25 PM
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There are a ton of things I'd say to/do with a significant other that I wouldn't be comfortable doing with a friend. Sex is certainly one of those things, but it isn't the only one. Name those "tons of things". I'll bet they all have to do with touching, kissing, sharing saliva, nudity, or other sexual things. there is a difference in how we interact with friends vs. romantic partners The main difference is sex. You're in a relationship with people you fuck, whether it's husband/wife, boyfriend/…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:22 PM
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If you can support yourself and you're happy with your life, I'll call you a success. Why do you have to support yourself? Just to "impress everyone else"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:17 PM
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not superficial changes to impress others If you want to have sex with women, it's very good advice to make superficial changes to impress those women. If you're doing it just to impress someone, you're letting their whims determine what you do. That's the distinction I'm drawing. That's the whole thing that allows you to define success as playing world of warcraft and beating off. No, success is defined by society and you know it. It's a pretty good definition and it tends to lead to happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:05 PM
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I don't see this as entitled at all You described someone "not-nice" as someone you couldn't talk to or be around. But it isn't for me, and it isn't for a lot of people. It is for most men with normal hormone levels. A lot of people see sex as a sweet perk, but still not the primary reason for wanting a relationship. That's bullshit. The only difference between a friendship and a relationship is the sex part.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:02 PM
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I agree with becoming a better you Then why say "be you"? That does not encourage change or improvement, that encourages acceptance and laziness. But it has to be something you want. Imitating a bunch of traits just because you think someone will like you for having them isn't admirable. Striving for those traits because you yourself want them is. That's the difference, and how someone can strive to change while still being themselves. Wanting shit is irrelevant. Imitating is at least a step tow…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:33 PM
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Because they have the same main tenet of discovering masculinity (or femininity for women I guess).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:31 PM
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I think it's important to be you. Bullshit answer. Be you if you are the most attractive most awesome successful guy on the entire planet, otherwise, become a better you. How would you give advice to someone who is a dick that no one else can stand to be around? Encourage them to be the dick that they are and learn to enjoy social rejection?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:21 PM
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Someone I can actually talk to and get along with isn't really an optional tangent for me though. First off, I said niceness is tangential to attractiveness, secondly, does that describe anyone who isn't "nice"? People have to be nice for you to talk to them or get along with them? I think you might be the asshole for being so entitled to niceness. but I wouldn't write off niceness as an afterthought I would, because people fuck attractive people, people fuck nice people if they are attractive, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:15 PM
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You didn't hit a nerve, I don't frequent either of the subs you focused on (MRP and RPW), doesn't bother me. Your criticism just seemed really weak. It's basically "someone in this sub said this, and someone in this other sub said this other slightly contradicting thing".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:07 PM
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I myself would much rather date a nice person than a total jerk. Sure, that's the tangent, that's little dot where the line barely touches the curve. You want someone who is attractive first and foremost. There are old, ugly and disabled people who are really nice but you wouldn't even consider dating. You say "I want to date someone who's nice" but what you mean is "I'm obviously only going to date attractive people, but it would be cool if they happened to be nice too".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:04 PM
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You need to find something better to do with your time. Pointing out inconsistencies in minutiae of the ideologies between 3 entirely different subs does not seem like a productive use of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:21 PM
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Niceness is tangential to attractiveness. Women tend to be the ones that spread the confusion that the two are related and men tend to be the ones who fall for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:15 PM
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Well it answers your question in the OP, women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:12 PM
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But they are all gross looking. That's the real reason they're publically shamed and women feel the need to shit on them, it's so they have a reason to justify the visceral disgust they felt for them before seeing any of the misogynist stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:33 PM
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RP doesn't have tumblrs devoted to dumping on these dudes. RP doesn't pour through dating profiles to find things to justify the disgust they have for these dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:21 PM
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You can still believe 90% of TRP doctrine but still choose to not identify as TRP because you don't want to associate with the remaining 10%. So functionally, what's the difference? Just the words you choose?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 06:21 PM
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Do you judge every other group by the worst of it's members? If you found out there were racists that supported vaccination would you decide to be against it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 01:14 PM
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Mine is a very mature joke implying BP takes it up the butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 08:35 PM
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yes, everyone but cohabiting couples as i clearly stated. But what does correlation of partner number matching have to do with the discussion of partner dissatisfaction? You're suggesting I ignore the relevant part and look at the irrelevant part? And even still, 71 couples is too small of a sample size and results in a double digit margin of error, which isn't really worth considering, so that's just as shit too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 08:04 PM
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So you didn't read the study? The pattern was only found for matching for dating/non cohabitating and married. The discrepancy for previous partners was only for married couples, but any way that you divide up that 100 makes it too small to draw any conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 06:37 PM
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did you read the critique in the link i posted, what was untrue about it? You posted two things, one was something critical of the reputation of a researcher that wasn't involved with the study, the second was a link to a critique of an entirely different study altogether something about divorce rates during the recession, not really anything about the study he posted, did you read it? it tries to draw a conclusion about relationships in general, not just marriages among the married couples, a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 06:00 PM
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the accusation is the guy who ran that research organization (a research factory) paid two peer reviewers with a similar conservative agenda to review a paper You were attacking the poster's credibility, your attack on the study's credibility was untrue. i'm still considering the study I looked at yours a while ago, it was easy. 100 couples is a sufficient sample size It's on the small end, but it tries to draw conclusions about 29 married couples, and actually an even smaller number.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 05:52 PM
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so individual hyundai cars That's a bad analogy. Arguments aren't made in a factory. that it's unfair to presume it's going to be less reliable? or at least questionable? Not only is it unfair, but logically unsound and fallacious reasoning. it's relevant to whether he values studies or not He's already posted a study. All ignoring it does is prove YOU don't value studies. it's simply the first study that came to mind Well I would put that one out of your mind because it's sample size does not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 01:13 PM
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but if hear mr. x said xyz, and i know mr. x has a questionable reputation, i think it's fair to say mr. x is questionable, examine what he says with more carefulness than someone that isn't questionable Where's the reddit rumor mill you go to? In an argument that's called ad hominem. You should look at statements independently of who says them. Even the most wrong person can say right things. i posted that study because it's a study which contradicts red pill First off, I already pointed out it…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 12:05 PM
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i never said he was wrong basically you did. the researcher behind that study is questionable it's over 100 couples altogether, not sure why you dismiss couples that are not married, and then reduce the 30 to a 'handful'. You did that, with the conclusions you cited: Further, among the married couples, a higher discrepancy between men's and women's number of previous intercourse partners was related to lower levels of love, satisfaction, and commitment in the relationship. Those are the ones tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 10:54 PM
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did you read the link i posted about the study? I take more issue with your argument itself. He effectively posted a study, you said it's wrong because of X, he showed you that X was wrong and you replied with "well I'm not responding to you until you look at my study that backs my opinion", then, in the same post you accuse him of only looking at data that supports his opinion. Surely you see how crazy that is, right? By the way, I did look at your study, and it's an interesting study of less t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 10:05 PM
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no i said i would respond to him if he proved himself reasonable He could have said the same thing and you probably would have failed your own test. to actual value studies Do you? He posted a study, you made a false claim about it. Doesn't seem like you value studies that don't back your own viewpoint. if i took the time and ended up finding issues with his study You mean what you should have done before you tried to spread false information about it in order to write it off? it's not like you …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 08:20 PM
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It's not a double standard, he knows not everyone is okay with people knowing they slept together, he is fine with people knowing and girls know that he won't say anything unless they're okay with it too. A double-standard means I'm okay with one of them doing something I'd consider wrong if the other were to do it. It sounds like you think it's bad if he talks about it but it's fine if they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 07:19 PM
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if you only value studies that back up your views Isn't that exactly what you did by ignoring his and demanding that he respond to the study that validates your opinion first?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 07:17 PM
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before i examine the study further You mean "before I defend the erroneous claim I made"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 06:54 PM
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So the chicks brag about sleeping with him, but he doesn't brag about sleeping with the chicks? Doesn't BP call that a double standard? Seems kind of strange that if a thread on TRP talked about knowing some chick him and his guy friends just use as a sex toy, it would be posted on TBP with the title "Oh nothing new JUST ALL TRP ARE RAPISTS AND HATE WOMEN"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 06:41 PM
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has a very good reputation won't spread it around wat?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 12:33 PM
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being mean to women just does not work Who is telling you to do that? Playfully picking on someone is way different than being mean to them. women in general are better, more loyal, kinder, more interesting than TRP claims Oh so NAWALT? My point was that your argument that "hey look really handsome skinny guys get laid too!" is a dumb argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 08:32 PM
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That was the best of, but he gives a lot speeches and generally kills it. He's not really the only one, Obama spanked the republican congress when they stupidly invited him to take questions. Obama did it in a less aggressive and more polite manner than Trump generally does, but both are GREAT speakers and really command attention and respect when they speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 08:30 PM
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Imagine you went on /r/personalfinance and said "you guys say you have to work hard and save your money to get rich but I see guys who are stupid with money and don't do anything who are rich as hell, what gives?"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 08:22 PM
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Look at why the guy you've described gets laid and other guys just like him but ugly don't. TRP can't tell you how to get a better face or how to get tall. Some guys have it easy, they can get girls while putting in no effort, other guys have to work for it. TRP is for the guys who want to work for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 08:20 PM
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I don't think he's a mascot or anything, but the way he handles someone attacking him, it's like Bruce Lee.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 08:12 PM
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The point you can take from this is that what is good for society and bad are personally interpreted and people don't really do what they consider bad, well at the very least, they do what they want and then rationalize how it was not bad or even good afterwords.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 06:32 PM
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it did hurt society, it cost a lot of money that could have gone to more positive things. that area is uninhabitable for an estimated 20,000 years. Depends on how you look at it. You're ignoring the large amount of cheap and relatively clean energy that all the nuclear power plants provided and most likely to areas that might not have had it otherwise. They came with the risk of a nuclear meltdown, but I'd say it ended up being a risk worth taking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 06:00 PM
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What do you mean? Like seeing someone I think who deserves it see justice? Or feeling smarter than everyone else? Or feeling like I got away with something? All of those are perfectly normal feelings basically every mentally healthy person has.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 05:09 PM
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sociopaths have a phenomena called duping delight, where they enjoy putting one over on others This could just as well be explained mentally healthy cognitive biases like not having an identifiable victim, the positivity effect, or actor-observer bias. But I see you've jumped to explaining it with a disorder that only a small percentage of the population has rather than the much more obvious biases that we all have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 04:54 PM
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I'm sure he thinks he's a good person and he rationalizes it to himself someway or the other. I'd even bet it's a similar style of logic as to how you explain that giving away all your money would be bad for society, probably something like "I need my money so one day I can help people even more" or something similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 03:22 PM
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not if i think excessive generosity hurts society. So this is just about what you think? Even Martin Shkreli thinks what he is doing is good for society. you mean balancing self interest and other interest, i.e. reciprocity? are you agreeing reciprocity > rational egoism? I'm not going to defend claims I've never made. are they becoming extinct because of their own poor behavioral values/choices or because of human pesticides? What's that matter? A society sucks if it can't adjust to it's enviro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 03:05 PM
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we incels are portrayed as weak losers Then go to the gym. At least then you'd be a strong loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 02:56 PM
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and what do you think i was doing to you when i said you don't understand what aralt means? I guess ripping off my joke. this is what antisocials believe and is actually not supported by evidence You are self interested when you don't give everything you own to charity. You are self interested when you eat rather than giving away your food. You are self interested when you self rather than volunteering. Everyone is self interested sometimes. species survive better when species survival is priori…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 02:53 PM
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you don't understand what aralt means It's a word I just made up as a play on AWALT in a mocking reference to how you criticize TRP for generalizing women when you've hypocritically generalized them. more likely to be antisocial Literally everyone is self interested. You are self interested when you don't give all your money away or spend a moment sleeping rather than helping others. You can't say everyone is more likely to be antisocial, who would the be more likely than?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 02:30 PM
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Is this PurplePillDebate or CapitalismDebate?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 02:19 PM
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i'm saying red pill advocates rational egoism, being more selfish as a rule, not as a temporary fix to a history of niceness What's the difference? A guy who isn't self interested enough should be more selfish as a rule. It's not a temporary fix, he needs to be permanently less of a doormat. red pillers just are insecure/emotionally-unstable historically, not nice people ARALT right? so what would a self interested person do if a certain choice benefited them but hurt society? A person who's onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 02:18 PM
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where does red pill say being selfish is a short term measure to fix being too nice, to return to the healthy mean/balance, it doesn't actually advocate being more selfish overall? I'm not sure what you're asking, but my statement stands i'm using antisocial in the general dictionary context of behavior that is harmful to society not in the clinical aspd sense. How is being self-interested harmful to society? Everyone in the world does self interested things everyday. Do you give all your money …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 01:56 PM
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i think not being accurate sends a confusing message I could give you several examples of where a simpler answer is much better than a completely 100% accurate one. i think red pill by nature favors individual selfishness. I just told you it did, and I told you why, most of the guys who seek us out NEED to be more selfish. which means puts self interest above others/group/social interest and is thus inherently antisocial That's not what antisocial means.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 01:37 PM
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So what you're saying is that TRP is wrong because it doesn't say "hey don't be too self interested"? Moderating sends a confusing message. It's easier to tell a guy "be more self interested" than to say "be more self interested, but not too much, and if you already are really self interested, be less, you actually want to find this undefinable balance of an already nebulous quality"? That's confusing advice, and ultimately meaningless to someone who comes to you for answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 01:19 PM
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t's core values (self interest and social status obsession) Those aren't TRP's "core values" (something you just made up). TRP talks about self interest and social status because they're what a lot of guys need to hear. The problems a lot of guys have that come to TRP that can't be solved at the gym or by getting out of the house are that they are not respected. They aren't assertive enough to state what they want out of a relationship. If you're trying to help guys stop being doormats, you're g…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 12:22 PM
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The reason I don't get caring about your "bloodline" after you die is because it does not benefit the world in any way. Well I'm sure you do tons of shit all the time that doesn't benefit the world in any way. But really raising kids does benefit the world. Humanity needs a new generation of good workers and thinkers, those who had parents who cared about them and their success tend to be better workers and thinkers. Seems like ironically I care more than you do. Wow you say would theoretically …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 11:29 PM
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I never claimed to be a nihilist in the first place, yet it seems that's the box you've put me in. But you claim to not care what happens to the world once you're not in it. In order to make that claim you have to abandon most any kind of morality to see the world and existence in general so myopically.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 10:03 PM
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I am not the nihilist you are trying to make me out to be. If you claim not to care about the world after you leave it then you are exactly the nihilist I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 09:59 PM
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I consider murder an immoral act in most cases Why? What's the difference? What does it really matter? Who cares, humanity could disappear from the face of the earth and the earth would probably end up being better from it. But even given that super cool cynical viewpoint, you still think it's bad. You still care what's left behind. I'm not implying anything else, I'm just showing you that you don't really agree with the cynical viewpoint you're pretending to take. If you did, you would have kil…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:57 PM
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So having kids is just as meaningless as not killing yourself. If you take such a cynical viewpoint why does it surprise you if something sucks when you think everything sucks? Surely since basically everything people do seems meaningless to you, you could see why they would care about having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:53 PM
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the strange idea you need to leave something behind after you die... that is what I don't get I bet you do get it. Just to prove it, what are your thoughts on someone who kills a bunch of people then kills himself? Maybe he kills his family or something else before killing himself. I bet you think he's a dick, but using your logic, his actions were logical, why should he care what he leaves behind after he's dead?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 06:14 PM
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There's no reason to care about "your bloodline" and other such concepts. There's no reason to care about any number of things you care about. Why bother living? You're probably not going to contribute anything meaningful to humanity, what's the point? You're only carrying on because of a natural drive to seek pleasure and continue to live, which is really as meaningful as your natural drive to shit or piss.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 06:12 PM
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This isn't a new thing. It's actually a refreshing change from the sadistic psychosexual serial killers we saw in past decades.
/r/TheRedPill06/10/15 05:31 PM
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I'm just saying that your reason why sounds like an appeal to novelty argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 04:39 PM
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Maybe in the US it's different It's probably the same for whatever freedom-hating country you're from. Most are normal, middle class women. Normal middle class women don't have sex with random dudes for money. Less fortunate women who have a poor relationship with their parents have sex with random dudes for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 04:32 PM
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we aren't all damaged There are probably some hockey players that still have all their teeth and boxers who haven't had a concussion, but they're a needle in a haystack.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 04:20 PM
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I had a friend who did it. He used to be rich and successful. He's now broke with a child and a coke habit and a woman who cheats on him regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 04:18 PM
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working her way through nursing school used to be stripper Come on OP, that's the oldest one in the book.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 04:16 PM
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These two guys have immediately jumped to the conclusion that a woman they have never met is going to cheat on you and accuse you of false rape. You're reading it wrong. Clearly these guys won't claim to read the future and be able to predict this woman's actions. They are implying that the past actions reflect a relative risk you getting screwed compared to other women. Under the most literal interpretation this is the OPPOSITE of AWALT because they are saying this woman is not like all women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 04:13 PM
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Answer is no, because it's a step back into the past. Wouldn't people have said the same thing during prohibition?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 12:33 PM
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Just because it's a tradition doesn't mean it's set in stone, it can be changed. Agreed, but why it is right now, tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 02:02 AM
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Because of tradition. If you want to go all terminator and go back to the beginning of time and change it, it would be different than it is now, but as of now, just like marriage is a tradition, taking the last name of your spouse is a tradition. Don't like it? Fine, you don't have to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 04:50 PM
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Sometimes they do, but you can't change them, only yourself. It's up to them, you can keep the door open if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 06:37 PM
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Why are you wasting your time with this chick?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 06:17 PM
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nearly exclusively
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 03:31 PM
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I have no problem doing that, but PUAhate and r9k are not part of it. PUAhate hates the "manosphere" and trp. r9k just has nothing to do with it. The terminology you would see there mirrors that you see in FA, things like "normie" or "tfw", both terms you would rarely, if ever, see on TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 03:26 PM
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all these shooters with TRP beliefs Who? This one wasn't TRP, it's questionable whether he was even MRA, and ER was in a site devoted to hating TRP. Can you think of any other reason why someone might look at the common denominator between all these shooters and think "Hey! Maybe that's why!"? What's the common denominator? Lonely dudes? TRP didn't invent that, in fact, it attempts to solve it. It's like your blaming AA for drunk driving accidents, and saying "hey look, all I see is a bunch of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 03:08 PM
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You feel that I have an obligation to convince you No, I just want to understand why you would fell the need to have such a belief with absolutely no evidence to support it. so you're getting upset that I'm not showing much concern about that. I'm not upset. I've already provided satisfactory evidence of his ideological affiliation No you haven't. TRP being part of the manosphere What reason do you have to believe r9k being part of that "manosphere"? So why are you now upset at my not giving you…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 02:43 PM
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Do you feel like repeating questions that have already been answered while raising your voice helps you win arguments? You never answered it. I didn't raise my voice, I bolded the part you didn't answer in hopes you wouldn't ignore it this time. This shooter was motivated by /r9k/'s ideology Prove this. The shooter went around asking if people were christian, not if they were virgins. /r9k/ and TRP share the same ideology Prove this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 02:04 PM
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Do you understand why I might ignore questions which assume false things? What did it assume that is false? If you have some association or evidence linking him to TRP, go for it, I'd love to see it. If you don't, which I know you don't, then I'm asking you why are you associating him to TRP with no evidence to do so? Why are you so invested in this and made this jump with absolutely no reason to? And it's rich that you feel "there is no association to be made" when the association is in the tit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 01:55 PM
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So the fact that you share the same beliefs as these kids who keep on going on shooting sprees Where did this guy say that? Why are you so invested in associating TRP with this guy when there is no association to be made? Please answer this question. What you glossed over there is that all three have the same beliefs about the world. No, they think the world beat them, they think they're stuck where they are. Surely you can see how that lends itself to suicide more than TRP. So do you feel that …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 01:47 PM
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They're really, super minor. Not when it comes to going on a shooting. A member of TRP sees the world exactly the same as a member of r9k or PUAhate sees it. TRP accepts the world and seeks to change yourself, the other two you're referring to rage against it and whine and wallow in their sadness. r9k isn't really even about women or sex, it's just whining about being unliked and lonely with a few "tfw no gf" thrown in. They're WAY more like /r/foreveralone than they are like TRP. You just don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 01:12 PM
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Maybe your data is older, because I found that about almost a third of people 15-24 have never had any sexual contact of any kind. But really I think you're misunderstanding the 80-20 split at it's core. It's not that 80% of men get no sexual contact, merely that they get very little and have to work very hard to get it, whereas 20% get as much as they want very easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 12:46 PM
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You know how sometimes Baptists will say "Catholics aren't Christians!", and list some minor theological differences in support of their position, and everyone around them just kind of silently rolls their eyes because nobody cares about minor doctrinal disputes? This is like that. It's more like saying that Muslims and Christians and Jews are all the same because they all believe in Moses, or that BOA and Chase are the same because they both lend money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 12:43 PM
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Depends on your population analysis, 18-44 doesn't really represent the population we are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 12:59 AM
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Would they believe it if they didn't see it confirmed in their daily lives? It's not wrong to say things you see to be true. If some guy goes and kills people because someone tells him his race is oppressed, does that mean you're responsible for his actions by pointing out oppression black and homosexual men face?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 11:16 PM
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doesn't it have a similar level of anger/negativity? You've clearly never been there, the negativity is off the charts. You might say "TRP hates women" and find some quote where a guy says "women aren't as smart as men" or whatever. Over there you don't have to look far for a literal quote of "I fucking hate women".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:52 PM
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Where did he say it was justified?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:46 PM
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A small price to pay for sunshine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:42 PM
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No, they think women will never like them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:41 PM
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There is no connection. r9k and TRP are entirely separate groups, they're not even on the same website. ER was PUAhate, which is different from r9k and TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 08:22 PM
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AFBB does NOT claim that women eventually lose interest in good partners. It claims that they are never attracted to Betas. That is not the phenomena being shown in that thread. That is not at all true. TRP would never claim that women getting with guys they aren't even attracted to in the least is a pervasive theme. These are guys they're kind of attracted to, but they're the second choice, they're not the most awesome guy, but they're a good guy and they can provide and all that, and they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 04:52 PM
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[citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 04:40 PM
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Check the thread title broseph What is your pill and what is your opinion of sex work OPINION
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 04:26 PM
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You're saying that, and I still think there's more to it than "tradition." If it were not tradition, why would it vary by culture? Some take the male, some hyphenate, some take none. It's similar to how in Chinese cultures the woman is included in the man's ancestral shrine when she is married. It's a tradition. You don't want to follow it, fine, you want to follow part and not others, fine. That's all up to you and your husband, but it still is a tradition in the US, and it is still a VERY acti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 06:31 PM
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I have a secret suspicion that both genders would like it if we had the leisure time to stay home and play with out babies. You suspect that people would rather not work? Groundbreaking!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:58 PM
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Also tax breaks. Religion is also a tradition with tax breaks. If it's only a tradition and nothing more, then it's malleable. I'm not saying it isn't, but you're saying that tradition isn't a good enough reason for the custom to exist, and I've explained that marriage itself only exists for the same reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:56 PM
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To become a union. You can be a union by being boyfriend and girlfriend, you don't have to be married to call yourself "a union". Marriage is simply a tradition, same as taking the last name.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:43 PM
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No. Marriage exclusively existed for child rearing and matters of estate. Ok, why does it exist now? I'm not even sure what you're debating now. I'm explaining to you what a tradition is and why marriage is one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:37 PM
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It exists for child rearing reasons. And matters of estate. You don't need marriage for those. You could handle those fine in any number of other ways without marriage. It exists only as a tradition. These traditions came about for whatever reasons, but the practices themselves aren't necessary any more, they are continued because they existed in the past, the definition of a tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:31 PM
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"Tradition" isn't an answer. Tradition is why marriage itself exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:54 PM
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Yeah so your debt is 106% of your GDP, so your debt exceeds your GDP. But it's still a relatively low percent. Japan is doing pretty good though by the looks of it. That's because we're talking external debt because that's what you brought up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:54 PM
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Why don't you take her last name? It's showing you are a family unit. The same reason we both don't take some arbitrary name, tradition. You really aren't answering the question as to why you feel entitled to keep your last name, but she doesn't. I have, several times, tradition. That's why it doesn't have the same meaning elsewhere around the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:18 PM
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US external debt to GDP ratio is 106. By comparison, Germany is 145, UK is 406 and Sweden is 187. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:16 PM
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Just not as fine as the US or Germany or the rest of the first world.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:10 PM
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You're the one who claimed people should settle for terrible sex they don't enjoy, not me. Where did I claim that? Never very far from your thoughts, is it? Well it is a rape culture right? How often do you think about hookers?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:09 PM
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You guys were still poor before the crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:07 PM
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Low percent of GDP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:07 PM
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Depends on the situation. There isn't always one pathway, sometimes there's a bunch, sometimes there are none. Both those answers could lead to sex, none of them could, one or the other could, depends on the situation and to some degree, chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 02:34 PM
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They can break the law. It's not hard. Oh, then by your definition, no one could be an incel because they could always just rape someone else. Checkmate incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 02:31 PM
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If 'me' is more important than family or tradition, why get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 02:07 PM
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The same reason you don't change your name to "FartyMcSharty", tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 02:00 PM
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You implied that taking the last name is only a Judeo-Christian thing. It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 02:00 PM
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Men can hire a hooker. Same deal. Depends on local laws. so long as they can have soul sucking by the numbers sex with someone they're not attracted to. Explain that to the incel faggots then, I was just giving you the definition of incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:59 PM
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The reason I quoted "I'm still my own person regardless". That attitude defeats compromise. Not something I would be willing to put up with in a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:57 PM
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Oh the age old "white lie" debate, I think you can tell the difference. Besides, no one can prove it's a lie if it only exists in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:53 PM
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Change your last name's both to "FartyMcSharty". There. Family. But you won't. Excuses ensue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:51 PM
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I get the whole making a family thing, but I'm still my own person regardless. This idea of putting yourself above your family is the exact reason why I would avoid trying to make a family with such a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:46 PM
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Except marriage isn't only a Judeo-Christian thing so....no? Guess you've never been to Japan, their law requires women change their name.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:43 PM
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I believe it takes a truly fragile ego to get upset about your prospective wife's choice of surname. It takes a truly fragile woman to feel like following a social custom makes her less of a woman. That knife cuts both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:35 PM
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That would get rid of the involuntary part of involuntary celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:29 PM
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Maybe not every woman wants to get jackhammered by an emotionally stunted man whore and his Pokedex of social diseases? That would get rid of the involuntary part of involuntary celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:29 PM
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The line is the same place that everyone draws it, when you knowingly lie to a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:26 PM
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Have fun, say hi to the golden dawn for me. Also let me know when you guys start auctioning stuff to pay back Germany, I want to pick up a sweet chariot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:23 PM
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It's always surprising to see the Americans viewing it as something that shows lack of respect towards the husband . Well in America it shows a lack of respect. We also have significantly lower divorce rates than the US. Probably because you can't afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:14 PM
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In short, there do seem to be a few significant differences in the online treatment of men and women, in particular, young women are much more likely to experience stalking and sexual harassment. But that's true online or offline. I'm sure if they included "physically assaulted as a result of things on the internet" men would be leading that category. I'm not really surprised our online actions mirror our offline actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:03 PM
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Maybe, but its who i am. I wont lie like you TRPers. You really think the entire sub is lying? I am attractive to women, one of the things that helped me become that way is to avoid talking about subjects that viscerally disgusts women. Men and women are equal, so logically, there's a woman out there for me. No, that's not true, whoever told you that was full of shit. Stay like you are and you'll never see the genitals of another human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 12:43 PM
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I'm going to throw out talking about being an ephebophile and describing your perfect woman as a prepubescent character from a japanese cartoon might be offputting to a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:14 AM
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You never wonder why you are an incel do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 01:02 AM
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Economics is science now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 02:54 PM
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No, women delude themselves into thinking that being a plate is a stepping stone to an LTR. She thinks her magical vagina will win him over to monogamy. It's stupid, but it's what's happening. How the hell does his moral responsibility involve reading another adult's mind in order to prevent them from making their own choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 06:52 PM
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Why did the guy post the note on his facebook? Why didn't he just write it down and give it to the guy banging his wife once he got done?
/r/TheRedPill25/09/15 06:26 PM
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I used to do construction growing up, so it makes it a bit more fun for me being the only volunteer out there who knows what they're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 01:42 PM
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I volunteer and I put myself first. What's wrong with that? I'm not going to lose my job to help other people, I'm not even going to risk my job to help other people, no balancing necessary. It's my life, I come first.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 01:41 PM
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Varies, depends on when I have the time and energy, probably about twice a year or so. Been doing some sort of volunteer work most of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 01:38 PM
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How is this thread any different than the last on you made three days ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 12:23 PM
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I don't care about social justice, just makes me feel good to help people so I volunteer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 12:19 PM
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Anyone who can read can know what real science is, it has to be: Observable Testable Repeatable Falsifiable Psychological research is lucky if it's even one or two of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 02:29 AM
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I just got done building a house for habitat for humanity, what have you done lately?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 02:20 AM
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I read the OP of the thread. I did too, and I replied to it directly. I replied to comment chain because I had a comment about a different thing brought up, exactly like you did. Bringing up the fact that sex causes vaginas to get bigger for a short little while is not really what her intent was with the OP. But it was relevant to the intent of the comment I responded to that I have quoted twice now, do you want me to quote it again?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 10:19 PM
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Nope, it's just the idea that sticking stuff in there could stretch it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 10:18 PM
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Ok, well thats where it comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 10:11 PM
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I considered posting a video of a stretched out vagina, but opted not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 09:43 PM
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right but you knew very well that is not what she was talking about Did you read the post? I was responding to that post. I get what you're saying but it's so irrelevant? She asked where the idea came from and if it had absolutely any truth, I explained how it did. How is that irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 09:43 PM
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http://www.dodsonandross.com/forum/topics/can-large-dildoes-cause-permanenet-vaginal-stretching#comment-643174
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 09:33 PM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2070157/Sitting-work-day-really-DOES-bigger-bottom.html
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 09:22 PM
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If your argument is that it makes her vagina bigger for a few hours after sex then I hope you realize that wasn't the point of her post..... You're taking my statement out of context. Read this post from above: There's a difference between: "I have my period, so beware, I'm going to start eating chocolate by the gallon and crying so hard I flood the house!" (hyperbolic statement based on known PMS behavior that's actually real) and "I have my period, so I'm going to turn into a blue swan." Hyper…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 09:20 PM
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depends on how you stretch them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 08:45 PM
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Okay, but even frequent sex doesn't change things down there. Yeah, it does, we just talked about that. Having sex or getting aroused increases the size of the vagina. A woman that has just had sex has a bigger vagina that a woman that hasn't had sex for at least a few hours. I imagine women who actually do sleep with hundreds of men each year who aren't actual sex workers are astoundingly rare. I set the bar for slut a bit lower than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 07:27 PM
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In that case, wouldn't the loosest vaginas be that of married women in sexually active relationships with their husbands? Sure, probably to some microscopic degree. If it were on any scale that is measurable and there was a device to measure it, vaginal elasticity decreases every day, it probably decreases each time you put something in it too. The vagina doesn't work any different than any of our other muscles or our skin, over time it gets looser, if it gets stretched a lot, it gets looser. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 07:23 PM
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Sure, but that's not about partner count, that's about sex frequency Exaggerating jokes don't give a shit. A slut has a lot of partners and frequent sex for the purposes of most of that sort of banter. Even sluts don't have very much sex compared to a woman in a happy marriage. You clearly don't know sluts. The Coolidge Effect works for women too
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 07:19 PM
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If you stretched out a vagina, a lot, for a long time, it will get larger. It's not really practical when we're talking about the real world with sex partners, but for the purposes of exaggeration it is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 07:16 PM
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Technically, a woman's vagina does expand when she's having sex, so if she did just get done having sex, it would be larger, thus adding some truth to the statement. Good enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 07:08 PM
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It's certainly a lot better than completely ignoring all of your points. That's a really weak retreat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 05:55 PM
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Does that mean your argument implies that muslims are more likely to be terrorists and you want me to make a case for "why not?" Maybe I misunderstood your answer. Would you judge a muslim as more likely to be a terrorist? Should other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 05:54 PM
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More likely than the next person on earth? No Why not? She seems to think it is. Then she's wrong, why do I give a shit about what she thinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 04:45 PM
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It was a market research firm, and was apparently so good at it that they went out of business last year. That's an ad hominem. It has nothing to do with whether the research is accurate. I also notice you backed away from the claim that "most men like working on machines". Am I correct in assuming that you were unable to find sufficient evidence for that one? I could go with this one, but it's just intellectual dishonesty from you to ask me for sources for things we both know are true. Do you f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 04:44 PM
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explain to me why we can't judge people on their religious affiliations or personally held beliefs? Do you think muslim people are more likely to be terrorists? are you siding with that clerk who won't issue same-sex marriages certificates in spite of a supreme court order? No, that's judging her based on the duty she was sworn to do, nothing to do with her religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 04:23 PM
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And I could go on. Why would you provide a link in support of your claim about the universality of gender roles, containing many examples which refute your claim? I didn't say all aspects were the same, only that some were. If you're going to make these large sweeping claims about how what you like defines normalcy and how most people are just like you, please provide credible support for them. You're just wasting time making me find sources that show most men watch football and aren't gay. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 04:21 PM
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Oh? Examples with adequate sources please. Men would provide for the tribe through hunting and fishing during the winter while the women would grow crops and forage during the summer. Here's a bonus article about how hormones effected gendered behavior I advocate the end of that, and for masculinity to be defined empirically, based on what men actually do. But men can do anything, so you're just saying we redefine masculinity as anything? I'm arguing that "masculinity" reflect what men actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 03:30 PM
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it's not like the classifications are fixed There are components of masculinity and femininity that have stayed completely stagnant through all of time across the entire planet. I would define them as fixed. the definition of "masculine" has been skewed toward people like you People like me? Don't you mean "the average man"? I mean I have no problem with you wearing dresses or getting pounded in the bum, but those are abnormal practices for men. I'm not advocating for special treatment for me. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 02:59 PM
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Why don't you address my point and talk less about your sides? Why do you feel the need for the things you do to be reclassified as masculine rather than understanding that men aren't always masculine?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 02:46 PM
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I named three of them. I just didn't indulge your quibbling about how you don't feel they're all that toxic. One of them wasn't toxic, one wasn't feminine, and the other most people argue is a result of men. I want a definition of "masculinity" which includes me because I am a man. Men don't have to be masculine. I imagine you do things that are masculine and you do things that aren't. For example I am masculine in most ways, but I occasionally enjoy bickering drama filled television and baking …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 02:39 PM
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It's boring and restrictive, and I don't think that the occasional cross-dressing, or enjoying sexual submissiveness, or sleeping with a guy instead of a girl makes me any less of a man. Why do you feel the need to "be a man". Are you that afraid of femininity that you need everyone else to adjust their definitions of words just so you don't associate with it? But I stand by what I said earlier But you couldn't name a single toxic feminine quality. It's the idea of gender roles Why? Just because…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 02:20 PM
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That's an analogy illustrating how your argument could justify judging people on any number of things that are not acceptable to judge people on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 02:18 PM
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Can you differentiate between "masculinity" and "traditional masculinity"? No, they are the same, because traditional masculinity is the only way the word "masculinity" has any meaning. Otherwise you end up with "you identify as a man? then you are masculine. want to wear a dress? masculine. want to watch real housewives? masculine. want to cry like a little girl? definitely masculine." which means "masculinity" means everything and therefore means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 02:05 PM
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I think you've been saying both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 01:53 PM
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You're free to be whatever religion you want, and the rest of the world is free to judge you on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 01:45 PM
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Do you feel like preaching to someone else about what you believe must be their secret feelings will somehow be productive? It's no secret, your hatred of traditional masculinity seethes from your posts. Are you hoping to convert me to TRP with this conversation? Maybe just open your mind a bit, although I may be as likely to convert you as I am to get you to escape a worldview you've dug yourself in so deeply.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 01:34 PM
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Being a "support" for someone else instead of having your own goals and aspirations. What's toxic about being supportive? Defining yourself by your partner. Men and women both do that, that's not associated with femininity. Feeling that having children is a requirement for being a good woman. Isn't that a view imposed by men? Are you going to try to argue now that traditional femininity isn't toxic, so then you can complain that only traditional masculinity is toxic? I'm helping you come to your…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 01:23 PM
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Name some aspects of feminine gender roles that are toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 01:15 PM
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HOW DARE SOMEONE HAVE A DIFFERENT WORLDVIEW THAN ME ARGH!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 01:14 PM
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Still trying to perpetuate toxic gender roles. Strange how it's always the masculine gender roles that are toxic. Actually, that's not really as strange as it is completely expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 01:09 PM
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I told you dude. Become awesome, basically the stuff trp says, get ripped, learn a bunch of skills, become fun to talk to. Then you need to make a lot of money. What you are talking about takes a bunch of money. Then buy a cool place, find some friends, find some bitches. That's how. I explained it in my post, but you were too busy skimming it looking for a cheat code.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 12:18 PM
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Just fucking do it dude. It's not how to put together a couch. There's not step by step instructions. Make yourself awesome, surround yourself with awesome people. Get a bunch of money, buy yourself a swanky pad in a big city. Throw wild parties. The fact that you're whining "boo hoo I can't be in a frat so I can't party" just shows that you're too much of a bitch to make this shit happen. THERES NOTHING STOPING YOU GO DO WHAT YOU WANT. If you actually put some effort in to looking, you'd find t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 03:33 AM
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Awesome, thanks for the reply, I totally didn't read yours either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 03:27 AM
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Nothing really I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 12:16 AM
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No one owes you food Isn't that pretty much what food stamps are?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 10:37 PM
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Obviously I lack the frame of reference but do you not consider that others may consider eating to be more fun? Ok, don't give a shit. My point was eating is fun, don't care if it takes some work. Sex is fun, don't care if it takes some work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:00 PM
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The gym is like the road, you look around and everyone is an idiot and no one knows how to drive but you. Also if you're watching someone else drive, you really want to tell them what they're doing wrong but it's rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:37 PM
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and sex is way more fun
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:31 PM
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Girl accepts favors from Guy, and acts like she considers him a friend. However, she also gets on /r/neckbeards and post stories about how pathetic Guy is. She demeans him and calls him weak, disgusting, and stupid. She laughs at how easy it is to exploit his trusting nature. Someone on /r/neckbeards recognizes one of her stories. Did you read their posts? I wouldn't describe them as anything like that, they were way more focused in talking about themselves and what they did rather than demeanin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:10 PM
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can you explain things like why women's athletics don't earn nearly as much money as the men? They do in sports where the action is similar. For example, tennis and volleyball championship payoffs are identical between genders. It is only sports where the level of play is so drastically different it effects the action. Sports like soccer, basketball or boxing. We can take a look at pop culture, as well. Remember Young Justice? It's a popular superhero cartoon that was canceled because too many w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:00 PM
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I still don't understand. You claimed he was full of shit, the claim you said he made was that he recently opened his business and it is making $100K. Any reasonable sized business that is not hemorrhaging money is going to be doing at least $100K in revenue. What part of that is crazy? That's about $300 a day in sales. You really think any open business doesn't make $300 a day in of sales?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:47 PM
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Aren't we having a discussion? I just asked you that since disgusting things are viewed as unacceptable culturally, how could judging something as disgusting not be implicitly condemning it on a cultural level?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:44 PM
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Thinking something is disgusting is not the same as passing judgement Yeah it is, you're judging it as disgusting. When you judge something you implicitly condemn it on a moral or cultural level. Sure, and disgusting things are viewed as unaccepted culturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:39 PM
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What makes me crazy? You just sound mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:21 PM
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They had sex with them believing that they wouldn't be judged or mocked for it later. I don't see where they put anyone's names down. It was all anonymous. It's no different than if a girl came on reddit an complained about her date. I don't think anyone would consider that lying or harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:20 PM
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But they mostly just seem like a group of like-minded womenpeople talking about their similarities. You could describe any group from a book club to a KKK rally like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:43 PM
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Eating is a lot of work, just hook me up with an IV drip.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:42 PM
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My mind only thinks the most acceptable of thoughts and never strays away from the allowed hivemind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:40 PM
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When I see them on the internet bitching about it non-stop I'll definitely throw that suggestion their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:38 PM
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So you do support thought policing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:36 PM
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How is that shit any of her business? He wasn't hurting anyone. Who gives a shit how he manages his own ego? Are you going to start lazering into people's heads to thought police? Holy shit this guy gets an ego boost when he sleeps with women, CALL THE DEHUMANIZING POLICE!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:35 PM
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Obviously the problem here is that you're making a qualitative judgement on things you find disgusting that goes beyond just "this is disgusting". My point was just that you can judge things, I was making no distinction on whether you are judging it as gross, creepy, dangerous, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:33 PM
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You can call me fucked in the head if you want. I started my own small brick and mortar retail shop. 100K in revenue is dead simple, that's just making $300 in sales if you are open 6 days a week. Assuming your markup is 60-100%, that's barely paying your rent and keeping the lights on. Dude might be full of shit, but a claim like that is not at all impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:31 PM
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Why don't you just pay a hooker if you want sex so bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:59 AM
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Because of the lynch mob. You don't even have to do anything wrong to be put in the pillory. Those guys were respected business owners that discussed their sex life anonymously (which it sounds like was very active) and they're being put through the cleaner. No thanks to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:56 AM
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A cushy office job doesn't compare to the work involved with 3 small children though. If that was true the office job would pay less, probably close to what a day care nanny gets paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:29 PM
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I imagine that's a hotly debated topic among sink fucking degenerates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 09:38 PM
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I never said anything about what defines a TRP member. I merely said that every group has people in it that are wrong, and that furthermore everywhere you go on the internet is going to have people who insult you, TRP is not immune from either of these forces.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 07:07 PM
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garden hose is alpha in that situation
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:44 PM
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Also the fact that in the 5 or 6 days I have been in contact with you lot, not one has talked about mutual pleasure. It's always the guy's rocks that need getting off. I guess I'm not familiar enough with garden hoses to know who the random act I made up gets off, furthermore, I didn't suggest you were a man, I assumed you were a butchy lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:40 PM
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There is a huge difference in a drive by nonsensical insult and a group of people (RPers) with whom women literally can't win. Yep and I'm suggesting you might still be misinterpreting the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:39 PM
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Yeah I'm grossed out with fantasies involving human waste, sex with animals or children, cuckoldry, murder and homosexuality. Probably more, but that's a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:38 PM
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TRP is a HUGE advocate for doing this. examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:57 PM
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Being cautious about someone's tendencies is different from deciding they're evil. They're both judging them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:55 PM
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I like BDSM, it's cool. It's when some dude lets a guy bang his wife that I get grossed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:54 PM
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I don't care how they deal, I'm not trying to take anything away from them, but I'm not going to pretend like I think their degeneracy is normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:42 PM
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I get it, it's fantasy, but it's still disgusting. And I'm still going to judge you for it. Because sometimes it's fantasy, and sometimes your interest in disgusting unnatural acts ends like this guy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:34 PM
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I'm not sure what your point is. My point was that a lot of what he does is to appease his potential audiences, and as such he's not a good example for normal men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:29 PM
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You're lying to yourself if you think shit like this isn't disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:28 PM
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Let's say a you see a guy's porn history and it's all "babysitter rape". Let's say you find he has a doll dressed up like your daughter that he has sex with. Let's say you have heard him having sex with it pretending like he's raping it. Would you let your daughter babysit for him while he was home? Would it not really creep/gross/disgust you? Sorry if it's not degenerate enough for you HSW, but you're clearly lying if you don't judge people for being disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:26 PM
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What's your thing then? You like to have your wife fuck you in the ass with a garden hose? What obviously degenerate thing does TRP not pretend is normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:22 PM
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Just that his career depends on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:13 PM
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OK, I'll prove to you that you do judge others who don't hurt anyone else. Let's suppose you know someone who you find out likes to have sex with life sized female dolls, then stab them with a knife while they finish. This is something that certainly doesn't hurt anyone else, but would you judge this person as someone slightly more likely to kill their sexual partners, or would you think, ah they are just as likely as anyone else, I shouldn't judge them. Would you tell a friend or family member …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:09 PM
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I'm just pointing out that a certain percentage of the internet is going to make fun of you and call you names no matter what. TRP isn't immune to that phenomenon the same as anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:06 PM
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do we really need to parse "profit" and "revenue" in order to make a point here? You most definitely do. Almost every business does at least 100K in revenue. So saying you own your own business (if it's much more than a candy stand or Amway) is basically saying you make 100K+ in revenue. Now that's way different from profit or your salary. In fact, as a sole owner, profit and salary have way more in common than either and revenue. Basically I'm saying it might not be as big of a brag as you thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:05 PM
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Isn't this all there is to SMV, at the end of the day? Your SMV can be sky high, but unless others perceive this, it may as well be zero... But no one follows me around with a camera all day and I don't have to worry about what the entire planet of moviegoers thinks of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:02 PM
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Are those the worst things you've seen on the internet or would you describe them as in line with most things you see posted on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 03:26 PM
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Oh, so you're lying to yourself then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 03:23 PM
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Yeah, I'm comparing two things with similarities and differences. For example, they are both things that effect a miniscule percentage of the population, so much so that they are pretty much irrelevant to discussions of sex in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 03:18 PM
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There's a fetish for guys who bang holes in walls. TRP CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT! (<- Not a link to a dude banging a wall)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 03:14 PM
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TRP isn't required to be accepting. TRP is allowed to have it's own opinions. If you let some other dude fuck your wife, do you really think I need to pretend like there isn't something seriously wrong with you? Do you want me to pretend like pedophiles or guys who bang sink drains are normal perfectly fine people too?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 03:10 PM
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Do you have demographics data from TRP? Any sort of count on the number of time reported income is high versus not reported or reported low? Or is this just your own guess? You probably only notice when it's high right? Tough to do any sort of real comparison then. Most of these people have internet. But not all. ALL the people on TRP have internet access. Additionally TRP income is self reported, versus tax data. The demographics of people who report their income skews way higher than the gener…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 02:55 PM
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Top 1% of the US population. Fine, US population, same thing. Income skews higher among internet users than the US population in general. By your logic, TUMBLR feministas are also in the top 1% as well. Compared to the general population, yes, their income would most likely skew higher than the US population in general as well, if for no other reason than just that they are internet users.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 02:44 PM
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my perspective is correct based on common sense Is basic statistics included in common sense? If so then you are very mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 02:38 PM
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Do you honestly believe dudes who post on TRP are disproportionately in the top 1% of males in the 20s and 30s? Compared to what? People who have the internet are disproportionally in the top 1% compared to the world population, so I absolutely know that people on TRP would be disproportionally the top 1% compared to the regular population, if for no other reason than just that they are part of the population that has the internet. Your "sampling" is dependent on that assertion. Sampling is what…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 02:37 PM
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You have any evidence to back up your assertion? A basic understanding of statistics. Read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_(statistics). Maybe it will help you understand the issue with comparing a sample from TRP to that of the entire population.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:33 PM
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Yeah there is a little bit of a difference there champ lol No, the failure in reasoning is the same. Let me try to explain this again. If you went in a gym and asked people there how many of them lift, you're going to get a number WAY higher than 10-20% like you cited in your OP, right? If you started a 6 figure club, you'd expect way more than the 2% you cited in the OP to be making +100K right? TRP encourages people to lift, it is frequently talked about. One would expect the demographics to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:29 PM
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I honestly think people need to feel special online and make false personalities. From your failure to understand how statistics and sampling work, I'm beginning to group you into that group of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:19 PM
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Do you honestly believe there is that level of overrepresentation of the top 1% on the TRP? But it's not everyone on TRP. The demographics is people on reddit on trp that post about how much they make. For that segment of the population, yes I think they are vastly over represented than the normal population of the street. I think people on TRP who say they make 6 figures are far more likely to be making 6 figures than a random person off the street who has said nothing about how much they make,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:17 PM
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Presumably you turn up on /r/NASCAR and tell them that 85% of them can;t truly be NASCAR fans as NASCAR fans are only 15% of population. Did you not read his post? This is really where your logic failed: Presumably you turn up on /r/NASCAR and tell them that 85% of them can;t truly be NASCAR fans as NASCAR fans are only 15% of population.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:14 PM
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High 6 figures in 7 months is difficult, but if you're just looking at revenue, 6 figures is very reasonable. Just note that revenue isn't the same as profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:12 PM
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The statistical probability of <1% of the male population in their 20s to 30s being all those qualities listed above. But how is that a fair or even accurate comparison? People who post on reddit have different demographics, people who post on TRP have different demographics, people who talk about themselves on TRP have different demographics. If we used your logic, we'd say that half of them must be women who are lying because half of the world's population are women and seemingly no women post…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:08 PM
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There is really no reason to lie about this stuff. Then why are you suggesting that so many people in TRP would be doing it? It is just giving an example. I was giving an example as well. I was pointing out that if we did as you did and compared what you said against the entire male population, it would make it seem like you are lying or very out of the ordinary. But if we compared you based on the people that self report, it's an entirely different demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:05 PM
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Muscular: 10-20% of male population in 20s to 30s It ought to be 100% of readers of TRP 100K/year in 20s and 30s: about 2% of male population Reddit demographics probably skew that much higher. Self reporting probably skews it even higher than that up to 90%, why would you mention what you make in your post if you didn't make that much. I have a medical postgraduate degree. I have just started an MBA program at the University of Chicago...Think about that for a second. Ok, thinking. You're .0000…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:14 PM
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Most of this guy's value is in the public perception of him. If people don't rush to go see "George Clooney Movies", there won't be any more of them, and he washes up. This effects what he does in a lot of ways. making light hearted self deprecating jokes about his intelligence and looks in comparison to his wife's That displays confidence, not weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:03 PM
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Ha, sitting at home watching a baby is easy as shit. It's so easy that billions of people have done it and only a microscopic amount of them have failed. It's so painless that a large percentage of those opt to do it again and again for little discernible benefit. Stop buying into that "being a mother is the toughest job in the world" bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 11:56 AM
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Teenagers do not take care of children around the clock So it's the length of time? I think you can agree, it's unskilled work, pretty much anyone can do it. The exhaustion factor and the ability to have eyes in the back of your head is. Exhaustion? Come on. It's not that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 03:50 AM
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You seem to consider time to be the complete measure of what a job requires of you No, I just didn't mention the other aspects, your comment seemed to imply that there was free time, so I addressed the issue of time from my experience. Also, you don't appear to consider caring for small children morning to night as work. I do, but I consider it easy unskilled work, most people do, that's why teenagers are often considered capable of doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 09:36 PM
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It's one of the funding principles of America Respect and rights are not the same thing. Stop attempting to backpedal to conflate the two. No one has said anything about taking people's rights, merely what level of respect they have for them. It's iffy where to draw the line, but there is a line somewhere. So you care about what people put into their body if it harms others, right? The line is just blurry. Would the line be less blurry if I showed you articles of how obese parents produce obese …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 07:48 PM
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The rock thing was to help you understand what I mean when I say basic respect for a human being. I don't understand the "you get this for being a human being" entitlement mentality. I think respect is earned and you have to do good shit to get it. In good shape? you get some respect. In spectacularly disgusting shape? no respect. But you shouldn't be putting baby blood in there if you must harm a baby to get this blood. But he didn't harm the baby, the same way the guy doing drugs didn't behead…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 07:22 PM
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Compare how you might treat a rock on the street to a homeless person. Ok, but that's not what we're comparing. We're comparing how you think of a fat guy versus a not fat guy. I redirect their choice to put whatever they want in their body Drugs? Guns? Freshly drained baby blood?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 07:11 PM
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It's honesty. You aren't entitled to being in a relationship with them any more than they are entitled to sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 06:42 PM
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That's only because there's a word for it. Call the other "blueball game" and they are the same thing. One is withholding sex, the other is withholding emotional support.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 06:39 PM
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I still respect them as humans beings. WTF does that even mean? You respect homeless people as human being but not human beings that are unlikely to be insane? I respect fat people as human beings but not as human beings that can manage their own caloric intake. So you agree with me and HSW that we should not bully and shame fat people? Bullying? No. Shaming, sure. Shaming can be as simple as saying "being fat is unhealthy" or "being fat is bad". Those are both shaming statements, and they are p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 06:12 PM
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I'm weary of homeless people in that they might have serious mental health issues and therefore are unpredictable Sounds disrespectful and prejusticed, but honest and basically what everyone thinks if they're not lying to themselves. I certainly don't mock them, call them gross, or disregard their feelings. I didn't suggest that, it was all internal monologue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 05:52 PM
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I agree that fat people deserve the same basic respect you give to all people. Do you give the same respect to all people? When you see an obviously homeless person, don't you think to yourself "this guy is probably gross and smelly and doesn't have his life together, he will probably walk slowly and get in my way, I will avoid him in order to keep him from imposing his disgustingness on me", same thing with fat people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 04:35 PM
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I believe the point was that people shouldn't be bullied or shamed for their weight When I see them do anything more that just claim it shouldn't happen, I might adjust my opinion of them. Currently I just view them as a group that tries to protect people from being offended by reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 04:28 PM
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One was just a fling with a friend from her past and the other was a ONS when she was intoxicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 04:11 PM
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to lie in their peer group but not anonymously to social studies They tend to lie to themselves. I've heard a woman say she only had 2 previous partners when I was aware of at least 4. When I pointed these out, she explained why she didn't think the other two counted. Which way do you think a woman like this would have answered on the survey?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 02:56 PM
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Attending meetings/conferences/training sessions, then heading out to watch some music or explore the city with colleagues. Then your job requires less of you than mine, any time I travel I set up meetings pretty much morning to night. It's basically work and sleep, I'd much rather sit at home and watch kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 02:45 PM
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He gets to skip out and go away for work - no doubt being pampered at a hotel and treated to dinner. Somebody has never traveled for work. If it were that much fun, they wouldn't have to pay your wage, your flight, your food, your hotel and your rental car.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 01:45 PM
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the nasty comments that get made over on TBP Isn't that the whole point of the sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 01:27 PM
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Keira Knightly is really thin though. If someone said they didn't like guys with muscles but liked Tom Hiddlewhatever, they would be mistaken because he has muscles he regularly goes to the gym to produce and maintain.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 12:37 PM
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Given the thread we are in, I think the implication could be there floating around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 01:21 AM
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There are thousands of men out there doing all that and you know what? They are either unemployed or underemployed, no girlfriend and no use for all of those muscles he got. Well about 95% of US adults are employed and about 75% are married or in a relationship, so I'm going to guess that most of that the max of 30% of americans are the ones who either didn't try hard enough or are really unlucky. You do not have control. You do have some. Some things just happen to us, but most things after you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 01:21 AM
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I didn't speak in any sorts of absolutes. If I said men are more violent,would you respond with "well some men aren't violent and some women are" in order to completely ignore the fact that statistically men are more violent?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 09:04 PM
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You can be submissive and confident, they're not mutually exclusive. You can be sometimes, but you need to be a leader most of the time. You don't have to boast your confidence or be loud about it That has nothing to do with dominance. It seems like you're claiming that submissive people must be insecure or shy, which is not true at all. I never said that. Being dominant means you want to "dominate", whatever that means - dominate other people (boss them around, make decisions for them, lead the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 08:18 PM
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Most likely you had a difficult life at first and then turned to drugs. I can promise you whether they had it easy or hard, a drug addition made it worse. They were the solution and not the cause. Drug addictions definitely cause a lot of shittiness and no kind of lasting solution to any problems. You do not matter. Go kill yourself then faggot. If nothing matters then why do you post on the internet? The world is not some incentive based video game where if you do X, you get Y. If you work, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 07:52 PM
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Just pointing out, he's not "scrawny" or even naturally like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 06:29 PM
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No one cares about what you do. I care about what I do. And you are in no position to tell others what makes them happy. Happiness is not a reward; it is a state of being. If sucking dick and shooting up heroin makes you happy then go for it. Everyone on the planet knows that being addicted to drugs leads to a difficult life. You know that to, that's why every day you wake some shit you really don't want to do but have to anyways, you just want to justify your laziness and unsuccessfulness in li…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 12:43 PM
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Because I only judge success based on my previous results, not some standard of "all men" that doesn't even fucking exist. I either didn't get shit or got begrudging sex pre-TRP, I get sex and good sex after, it worked for me. Now of those guys it worked for, every now and then they get to bang a smoking hot chick in some interesting way. What do they do? Write a field report. They didn't record all their failures or all of the average or below average chicks they banged, just the notable ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 06:20 AM
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She doesn't understand how men's bodies work. When she says "big muscles", she's thinking of the kind of muscles roids and 20 hours a week at the gym produce, when she says "scrawny nerds" she's thinking of the kind of body a good diet and 5 hours a week at they gym produce.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 06:10 AM
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Tom Hiddleston is quite thin This takes a lot of gym time to make
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 06:06 AM
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Sounds like pussy begging. More like being fucking productive with your time. If you like jacking off more than building furniture, then go jack off. Who the hell cares? Why not go live under a fucking bridge then? At the end of the day, I like sitting on some furniture I made, Having an extra wad of spunk does me no good. What if the guy would rather shoot up heroin and suck dick to get more heroin rather than actually earn happiness? Would you say "hey go be you, don't do shit for pussy!" More…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 06:01 AM
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Huge difference between wanting to be dominated and simply wanting to be with a confident man. But not a huge difference between a dominate man and a confident man. A confident man is dominate more than he is submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 05:52 AM
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That was my exact point dude. It's not a curse, you aren't required by law to fit into being dominate and do it in every single action, its just that you tend to be dominate more often than you are submissive with a large indifferent grey area in the middle, same for introvert/extrovert.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 05:48 AM
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Some are more liked by women (height, social skills, compassion, having interesting/fun hobbies) If you don't think men respect each one of those examples you posted, you are mistaken. Those aren't really hobbies, they're male chores. They sound like hobbies to me. To them it could be something useless like snowboarding Snowboarding is great, it is physically exhilarating challenging and dangerous. A great core workout.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 05:45 AM
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I'm sure you all realize, what a woman wants in men and what men traditionally respect in other men do not line up all that well Yes they do, they line up exactly. Will men have to spend hours a day doing frivolous 'passionate hobby' shit Like what, fixing cars? Building furniture? Learning a useful skill? What would you rather fill your spare time with? Vidya? TV? Jacking off?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 03:02 PM
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It's the same point the 10 other lazy whiners before you made. What's the amazing insight you added? Pretending like this is an academic environment? You're just as lazy as all the other responses here and all you did is bitch about my study rather than provide your own. Whelp guess we might as well burn any research that is over 20 years old, absolutely nothing we could possible learn from them, go get your gasoline and a match.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 12:49 PM
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Actually, in academic settings the rule of thumb is ten years. Sorry professor. Just post some better evidence yourself instead of bitching at the one guy who posted some.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 04:45 AM
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So you linked to a post where the girls said she "missed him" after he was gone. Is it so hard to understand that even possibly that force is the driving power behind dread game? It's not manipulation, it's simply acting in a way that brings out her feelings towards you that are in the back when she takes you for granted. If those feelings aren't there, or they aren't strong enough to overcome the negative, then it will simply push you towards breakup, which sucks and is painful, but really inev…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 08:51 PM
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Oh, that's right, you lot think "Dread game" provides stability. Absolutely not. Dread game shakes things up. It's make or break. It fixes a broken relationship or it breaks one that can't be fixed. Everyone knows it's why your subreddit only pops a boner for immature women. Everyone knows why everyone pops a boner for young women, they're more attractive than old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 08:10 PM
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Yea people just stopped doing science 28 years ago. If you have better studies, you're welcome to share them. I'll even get you started.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 08:04 PM
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Is that supposed to be an argument or did you just vomit a word salad out of /r/TBP?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 07:58 PM
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Why not ask professional relationship counselors Why not pay a shitload of money to someone with no real certification and no medical experience to speak of to tell you what you want to hear?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 07:45 PM
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From 1987, no less. A nice lazy way to brush off evidence without having to present any of your own. I'm sure nothing's changed since then In the "if women find dominant men attractive department"? Not really. like all soft science self-reporting, it used the broadest possible base We're talking about what kind of men women like. How else would one measure it? Bash their heads open and see how it looks, sew it back together, introduce them to a guy and then bash her head open again to see what c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 07:42 PM
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Yeah, we don't know that much about how the brain works. We're only at the how does memory technically work, how does learning technically work. We're not close to the how does sexuality work part.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 07:29 PM
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Unfortunately not mature enough to answer the kinds of subjects we talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 07:17 PM
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Because it's not science TRP is about what goes on in people's heads, there's no way to make that a science until we can actually see what is going on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 07:04 PM
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And some people with all the practice in the world can't reach certain things. Improvement, by definition, is not all or nothing. Not being able to become the best is not a reason to give up on getting better. Also, I don't know if many people get good naturally without practice. I don't know how many people pull basketball skills out of their ass. Guess you didn't play much as a kid. Those good kids usually aren't good because they practice more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 06:41 PM
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but that doesn't mean it's reached or even reachable for some You could say the same thing about getting good at basketball, that doesn't really justify someone encouraging others to practice. So, yeah, maybe women are more attractive to more dominant types. Do you realize you just made the exact same statement someone made earlier and you asked for proof for? But, does that mean they are attracted to people who completely boss them around? Does that mean they are attracted to guys who treat the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 05:00 PM
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I agree that threats, intimidation, emotional abuse, and things like that are really bad, but they're not violence. Might as well call them genocide or 9/11.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 03:45 PM
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1987? Anything more recent. You think this is something that changed over the past 20 years? Or is this just a lazy way for you to brush off this evidence rather than finding your own opposing evidence? Would these all constitute red pill types, which could be different from generally dominant people? The goal of red pill is to become dominant, so if TRP are different from what you define as "generally dominant people" then they're doing it wrong. But ask yourself this, can you tell the differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 02:51 PM
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Circles everything with the word "VIOLENCE" Doesn't list a single violent thing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 02:14 PM
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https://youtu.be/iFZYPY8_CQw?t=5s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 02:10 PM
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Here you go
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 02:00 PM
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Here you go
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 02:00 PM
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They are general types, it's like extroverted or introverted, just because you're one of those it doesn't mean you're always talking to people or you won't talk to anyone ever, it's just a general type.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 01:57 PM
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"He's only ever dated women of my race... Is he fetishisizing me? Does he really like me? Or just the idea of me?" Why is that not a concern for you regardless of race? Seems like that's something you would want to find out quickly in the relationship regardless of his history. Furthermore, how do you know what the reasons are? Perhaps the white man's concern is that genital herpes is 3 times more prevalent in black men than white and it is very easily passed from man to woman. But all of this i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 12:52 PM
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Do you think Asian women are classified as overly sexual? Or overly submissive? Those aren't mutually exclusive, it's both. In your example I can absolutely see why an Asian woman would be suspicious of a White man who'd only dated Asian women. According to you it would be racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 03:04 AM
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Because in one scenario the judge is a member of the race that the other person has been dating? What does that matter, it still has the same similarity. Further, if you think Asian women and Black men are treated the same in western dating culture... Wow. I didn't say that, but I do think there are some similarities. Both are overrepresented in pornography. Both have sexual stereotypes. Both are portrayed similar in media (sex crazed and white worshiping). Both's counterparts (black women and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 12:16 AM
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I'm failing to see how they are functionally different. Both judge the person by the race of people the other has been with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 11:56 PM
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No, you're not an asshole, just finally being honest. I think "it creeps me out" is a perfectly acceptable answer, I just thought all the other excuses were BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 04:47 PM
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Do you believe the idea of asian women avoiding white dudes who only date Asian chicks is racist too? Because it's basically the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 04:37 PM
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Why would he win a free sex robot? I don't know, was the 1 trillionth customer at a bar or something. I would be confused why he was using a robot instead of having sex with a very wiling human woman. Same reason he might masturbate. You're gone, you seem tired, he doesn't want to have to bother pleasing you or cuddling, he just wants to fuck for a minute and bust one. But you still didn't answer the question, if he didn't spend a lot of money on one, and used it as a masturbatory tool, would yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 04:33 PM
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So if he won the robot or got it for free somehow, you wouldn't mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 04:28 PM
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So then you wouldn't mind a guy that fucked a robot as long as it was the same as masturbating?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 04:23 PM
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What's the difference between having sex with a robot and having sex with your hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 04:11 PM
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IT director, male
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 03:17 PM
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You don't really see us talk about that, because that's the easy shit and everyone already knows how to handle that. The RP tactics are for when things aren't fun. When you have something important to do and your SO is getting mad because she wants to do something else, shit like that. It's the same reason you don't see posts in /r/relationships that say "We're not getting in any fights, we have a great sex life, things are going great, what should I do?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 03:15 PM
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A nationality that is so bad at having sex they are on track to be extinct in a 1000 years is not one I would look to as a model of healthy human sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 03:03 PM
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So your thread is "CMV: TRP has liars and gullible people just like everywhere else in the world"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 02:06 PM
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If you know a few of these people, why does it seem to surprise you so much that these same people you see everywhere else might also be in TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 12:29 PM
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I still rank it as significantly less simplistic nonsense than a shitpost where 20% of the words are "muh".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:35 PM
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I used scholarly references, you used the word "muh".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:25 PM
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I'd say one of the least popular pieces of good advice on that sub is "minding your own business". Some girl you barely know is cheating on some guy you barely know? It's your responsibility to tell them! It doesn't matter if they probably won't believe you and may even react violently, you have to tell them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 05:17 PM
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Right, I'm looking at the graph now and have no idea what you are talking about. Then you don't understand the graph. I assume you're looking at Figure 2, this shows the "Average Masculinity Preference". You'll note they range from 0.32 to 0.55. I think what you don't understand is what that number means. a 0.0 masculinity preference would be no preference towards the masculine face. That would mean if they asked 100 women if they liked the left or right better on figure 1, 50 would say they pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 04:34 PM
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In this condition, there is a tendency to select for men with a mesh of feminine and masculine features (rather than a highly masculinized face). But your study doesn't show that. The masculine face still has a huge advantage everywhere, that advantage is just slightly shrinking in developed countries. For example, look at symbols teenage girls flocked to like Justin Bieber. Larger eyes, longer eyelashes, yet still a strong jawline. Not really a good example considering at the time Bieber mania …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 03:04 PM
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In the edit you posted, the higher T man is still selected for more often, just slightly less more often between mexico and Sweden. The advantage still goes to testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:50 PM
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It's got such a high LD 50/50 that overdosing is not really a concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:44 PM
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As per sexual strategy, conditions in healthy stable countries diminish selection for high-t men (or the appeal of signaling a good immune system despite immunosuppression). Unhealthy, unstable countries conditions are ideal there. Basic summary of one of the studies conducted on this. You talk about how women select men but you've posted a study about how men select women, I'm not seeing the connection between these two.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:43 PM
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Those were adjusted for in the testosterone study.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:40 PM
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Doesn't really have to do with water, maybe more birth control pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:35 PM
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the discussion on 'what's to be done' will be very limited in scope That's not really the debate I'm trying to have. I'm trying to justify TRP's existence and methods. I'm trying to explain why it's needed and why it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:33 PM
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I doubt the age-independent decline noted in that study is purely a result of drinking water. I definitely didn't intend to imply that it is the only cause, more that "our natural hormones are getting fiddled with, this is probably why men have fallen from masculinity, and why finding it through TRP leads to success.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:06 PM
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Before I ever found TRP I used to post in /r/relationships, I found that decent advice would get massively downvoted, and since I care about internet points for some reason I still can't really explain, I created a separate account for that. I've since given so much good advice I've gotten banned from /r/relationships, so this is now my TRP/PPD account.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 01:44 PM
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Because all of those soy products really affected Asians. They produce less test than most other races. There's hardly any of them left in the world anymore. It doesn't really work that quickly. It's more of a gradual thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 01:39 PM
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I think you're taking the title of my post more seriously than its content. I'm citing a few things as a possible cause in the reduction in masculinity, I'm not saying "if u drink tap water ur a bitch".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 01:31 PM
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It didn't explain the decline entirely, but it did play a role: This was the article I was thinking of that states it more clearly: the study suggests that neither aging nor changes in certain health factors, such as obesity or smoking, can completely explain the phenomenon But it also could also influence us positively in the long run. Not really something I want to take a chance on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 01:29 PM
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Better not drink any milk then or avoid E-numbers that are Estrogen, because the article says they are even worse than drinking water. Agreed. I also try to avoid soy-based products as well. But even if it is harmful: What would you do to stop it? I can only change me. I changed my lifestyle according to TRP and that has worked well for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 01:20 PM
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Couldn't that be linked to the lifestyle changes of the past decades? The study was adjusted for obesity, smoking and all other lifestyle changes. Evolution has no 'design'. It flings random shit at a wall and whatever sticks will continue to develop. That's a method of design. The level of testosterone men used to produce was one of the things that "stuck" to the wall for thousands of years. Changing that could expose me to the risk of falling off of that wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 01:16 PM
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There is a rise of estrogen in the European water supply as well In 2011, Estrogen in drinking water was found to not have an adverse effect in their residents, including sensitive groups. That study really only measures it's "adverse effects" based on the toxicity levels and exposure limits. It doesn't measure the long term effects of increased estrogen intake, which is what I am talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 01:11 PM
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Did you read the reduction in testosterone article I linked?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 01:04 PM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 01:26 AM
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Over submissiveness is not a metric.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 01:23 AM
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narcissism is linked to overconfidence Good approach, I like it, depression is linked to over-submissiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 12:40 AM
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your point is made up. that's not how reality works Ok, we can switch it to your all time fav, narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 12:21 AM
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You didn't address my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 11:17 PM
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Kind of irrelevant, because it does not in any way prove that submissiveness is unhealthy. Let's just imagine that self confidence is linked with propensity to commit acts of violence. I don't know if it is, but to illustrate my point, assume it is. Would this make self confidence unhealthy? No. Propensity to commit acts of violence is unhealthy, self confidence is still perfectly healthy regardless of what it might be statistically linked to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 11:09 PM
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That still doesn't show that submissive people tend to be depressed, it merely states the exact same thing your last study did in a different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 09:23 PM
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1.submissiveness is linked to femininity, and why that link is meaningful That was what my linked study did. See my study proved the claim I was making, rather than the converse of my claim, like yours. 2.submissiveness is linked to healthy femininity, and why that link is meaninful That is admittedly conjecture because "healthy femininity" is not any sort of standard that could be easily scientifically studied. 3.the link between submissiveness and unhealthy traits is meaningless That link woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 08:45 PM
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by that logic associations found between the female gender and submissiveness are meaningless No. We used different logic. I used Modus Ponens, you used Affirming the consequent. Your problem is that it draws the assumption that submission implies depression when your evidence only shows that depression implies submission. Those statements mean two entirely different things. if being submissive was neutral (or even good), it would not have greater associations for negative things (even though so…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 08:13 PM
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i'm finding evidence that submissiveness is associated with unhealthy traits Sure and it's even easier to find dominance is associated with unhealthy traits. I bet you can also find unhealthy traits associated with having or not having a penis. That doesn't mean it's unhealthy to have or not have a penis, it just means the two are associated, which is pretty much meaningless in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 07:45 PM
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Something must be up with your browser, I can scroll and see the second page: http://static-content.springer.com/lookinside/art%3A10.1023%2FA%3A1010933700912/001.png
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 07:32 PM
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I just did the look inside two pages on the top right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 07:18 PM
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seems like a valid subject on a subreddit devoted to questioning football. and ppd is a subreddit devoted to questioning red pill. But still, if it's all you talk about... did you read the actual study or just the abstract? I read the first two pages, which had all the relevant information I needed to prove the point. If you want you can just skip to the next to last sentence on the second page.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 07:15 PM
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if i was on a football subreddit, would you think i saw football in everything? But TRP isn't about expressly about narcissism. A better example would be if you constantly brought up "male aggression" on a football subreddit. People would eventually ask you "dude why are you so obsessed with male aggression?". i'm not a regular browser there, are you? I thought you said you were honest... is being submissive a feminine quality? Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 06:58 PM
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are you submissive and/or nurturing to superiors? anyone? I would say I am still somewhat submissive to my parents. I tend to be nurturing to children. These are completely normal qualities, they do not indicate dysfunction. how am i paranoid or narcissistic? I think your quick labeling of anything you even possibly suspect might in someway to something you deem unhealthy shows that you have the beginnings of a paranoia of anuerotypicality. You seem to see narcissism in everything. It's a common…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 06:29 PM
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nurturing and submissive together i've not experienced in a neurotypical individual Interesting. Do you think that the lack of positive feminine people in your life contributes to your paranoia of narcissism?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 06:15 PM
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What is it about "nurturing and submissive" that makes you think these qualities are insecure or dysfunctional? Have you not experienced someone with these qualities?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 06:02 PM
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You may need to refresh yourself on the meaning of codependent relationships then. They involve enabling negative behaviors. The qualities I listed are not dysfunctional in anyway, they are simply feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 05:46 PM
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codependency is not a male/female trait I never became codependent, only less masculine. and if that's not actually true what does that say about red pillers / red pill? Let's see it not actually be true first. But anyways, even if they're wrong about the why, doesn't make the how wrong. For example medieval people knew that if you left meat out it would get maggots, they were wrong about why they got there, but they weren't wrong about the leaving meat out makes it get maggots part. you couldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 05:27 PM
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first, trp often and openly says they were losers before trp. Some do, I'd say we have all walks of life, but strongly skewed towards more losers given we are a self improvement sub. For example, I was never a loser, I wasn't even really that unattractive, I could even get girlfriends. My problem was that around the time I began to become interested in these women, they would begin to lose interest in me. TRP helped me understand why as my behavior became more nurturing and submissive, women bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 05:13 PM
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No, I think you think trp is losers because that's what you want to believe because the few times you were linked to trp on rbn it said some bad stuff. That explains why you like to think you are some sort of specialist on narcissism, because it makes it easier to blame your parents for being narcissists which must have caused every ill in your life. I'm guessing the fact that TRP argues for self improvement rather than whining about external problems is what really causes you to be so passionat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 04:53 PM
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honesty issues I question that, I think this whole argument is dishonest from you. There is no doubt in my mind that you think we are effected by the media we consume and you've been intellectually dishonest about that belief for the purposes of this debate. I think you're playing stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 04:40 PM
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did you actually read all the GOT books or just the ones you had access to? I guess all the ones I have access to, my access being those ones he has written that you can buy in the store, so yeah all of them. i would think if you actually read even some of those articles, you could have made interesting points I wanted you to read them so it would be two way. Instead you just kept asking me for more evidence when I had already given you plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 04:26 PM
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I can go back through if you want, but you'll have to read them first.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 04:10 PM
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The ones I could get access to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 04:08 PM
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Full text. I read all the GOT books in less than a month too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 04:00 PM
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So which books would you burn? My point stands because he says "some of this stuff is good, but some of it is bad, and it shouldn't be bad". My point is if you don't like the bad stuff, pass it over.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 03:04 PM
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TBP is meant to mock that viewpoint. I wouldn't say "mock", that would imply some sort of funniness. I would say they are meant to whine about that viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 01:22 PM
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Do you walk into a library and say "wow some of these books are bad"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 01:16 PM
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that's meaningless too right? It's ironic that you made the word "meaningless" meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 12:43 PM
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Then why are you in a debate sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 12:22 PM
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I did read them, I'm a fast reader, I enjoy reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 12:21 PM
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You kind of missed my point, which was that the statement you made was meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 01:46 AM
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it's important for me to avoid dishonest people. Stay away from mirrors then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 12:42 AM
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Oh you wouldn't realize it. no actually thinks they are the asshole. you lack perspective. Then how do you know you aren't the asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 12:41 AM
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you haven't even read the majority of those I read them all before I posted them. You should try reading them. What's more important to you, learning or being right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 08:02 PM
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there isn't evidence that film/tv significantly effects the belief systems of children I just gave you 51 links showing that there is an effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 07:49 PM
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So your argument is so broad it's meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 07:35 PM
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Not significant doesn't really jive with: I think it has no effect on most people (at least in the context you mean, i.e. people having their beliefs systems formed/influenced significantly by tv/film content). I think people watch what entertains them and what entertains them is dependent on their own internal values/interests/preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 07:29 PM
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does it affect the average individual to a significant degree though? I say yes, you say that it can't possibly even in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 07:14 PM
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But I'm not even that broad. I simply stated that media consumption effect individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 07:07 PM
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How would you respond if a 9-11 truther asked you that question? Would you say "actually I am interested in hearing about 'JET FUEL CANT MELT STEEL BEAMS' and 'BUSH DID 911'"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 06:59 PM
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i think values are mostly instrinsic and genetic. Another great backpedal. been able to produce anything specific I produced 51 specific studies. You want more? do you really think tv causes antisocial behavior? I do think it plays a role in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 06:54 PM
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anyone, or most people? Is that relevant? You think values are intrinsic and genetic. Even one person would be enough to disprove you. i expect a specific link/study that would support the idea that tv/film content actually alters people. Ok, I gave you 51 of them organized into an article proving that very point, all scholarly of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 06:35 PM
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the question is, does anyone really think hot girls like nerds? No the question is, could this depiction of those two cause people to think that matchup would occur? what's the specific evidence for this? I gave it to you. 51 links. What do you expect here? It's trying to tell what happens in our brain, there's never certainty. We can't go in and literally record what happens in the brain. There will always be some reason it's possible that it might be false. This is why I gave you so many piece…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 06:23 PM
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well, i think what is popular validates/pleases people's intrinsic tastes. So you think hot girls actually do like nerds? that's why i don't think film/tv forms, influences most people, but is more a reflection, reinforcer of what most people find likable intrinsically Then you're wrong. Art imitates life and life imitates art. It's both.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:57 PM
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why are most films and tv shows that are popular, popular? what's the difference between popular tv/film and unpopular tv/film? If I could answer that question I would be a billionare Hollywood producer. The best answer I could give is that "popular tv/film is stuff people like and unpopular is not liked as much".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:38 PM
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So somehow all of this is controlled by the motive of the person making it? What kind of magic reads motive rather than the thing produced? Do the people effected by it say "well this is a commercial, I better let myself get manipulated by it" or "this is a TV show, can't let it effect me in any way"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:32 PM
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Your beliefs about women are your preselection for dating. you will only end up dating women who believe the same things about her self as you believe about women at some level and vice versa. Bullshit. You'll end up dating women you want to date and that want to date you. There's no sort of divine selection that puts assholes with assholes. The women I date are not assholes. They aren't repelled by my beliefs because I don't share them with anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:30 PM
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amount to more speculation than proof on the particular topic we are discussing Bullshit. This article has an overwhelming amount of evidence to support the idea that people are effected by the media they consume. If you call this speculative you would have to call pretty much every piece of psychological or sociological research that has ever been done speculative as well. i don't think you are curious about this issue I'm not, I learned about it a long time ago. I'm not curious about global wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:22 PM
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I gave you all the links, you don't like proof? My point is that I obviously can't completely prove how something effects someone's mind, because there's just no way to do it, but I can give you overwhelming evidence that supports the point that something might effect someone's mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:01 PM
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I guess it is possible, want to move on to number three?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 04:56 PM
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You should re-read, they controlled for that variable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 04:34 PM
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Cool, we can go to the second one then, it's a 17 year study with a large sample size. Only 49 left after this one!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 02:31 PM
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We can go one by one, want to start with the first one?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 01:58 PM
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Pretty much all of them. Just go down to the references and you can go one by one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 01:37 PM
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I still didn't see you explain how you are entitled to something you earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 12:23 PM
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"I deserve X amount of money for a given amount of work." That's not entitlement, that's negotiating a salary. The employee isn't entitled to get paid without working. The employer isn't entitled to get work out of an employee without paying for it. They negotiate a price. This is the opposite of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:30 AM
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It didn't say anything about them thinking they're entitled to more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 01:03 AM
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However, my point is that men feel more entitled to more pay for the same amount of work than women. TIL negotiation is entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 12:20 AM
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Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 11:28 PM
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they're cookoo women must stay at home and clean and cook conservative That's not really cuckoo, it's pretty prevalent worldwide.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 10:45 PM
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Did you not read what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 09:44 PM
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If anyone is saying that then they've forgotten AWALT. People like to think there's some sort of place you can run to where these problems go away, but sorry, there is no paradise
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 09:43 PM
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but you haven't offered any proof of that I just gave you a link that cites over 50 studies, is that not proof enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 09:08 PM
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Does this work? I mean it's a pretty commonly accepted belief in the psychological world that the media consumed has a very large effect on society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 08:09 PM
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And don't even get me started on how the red pill is delusional enough to believe that a 30 year old guy is going to somehow end up dating and screwing attractive college girls! MFW i did it yesterday
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 07:43 PM
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So you think TV has no effect on people? Come on, I thought you were some sort of self professed psychology expert. Do you only play that role when you want to call people narcissists? Do I really have to get into the studies on this subject?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 07:38 PM
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i think most people are not a product of what they watch on tv and film That's still not answering the question. Don't you think how society is reflected on TV has an effect on people?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 07:34 PM
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Great job stating the obvious, why not try answering the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 07:18 PM
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Don't you think how society is reflected in movies and TV has an effect on people?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 02:40 PM
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How does that imply why they watched it? It only implies that they saw a trope that it showed, which nerdy guy gets hot girl. Here are some example: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UglyGuyHotWife http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GiveGeeksAChance http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NerdsAreSexy Tv Tropes isn't a redpill site, so obviously they aren't the only people to see this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 02:05 PM
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do you think people watch big bang theory because of it's accurate depiction of reality? Do you think people watch any show outside of documentaries or news for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 01:54 PM
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Yeah, your sex drive is built in and it doesn't want to change no matter how much you tell it "fat is beautiful".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 04:32 AM
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TRP is sexually conservative, but that's only because reality is sexually conservative. I consider myself a liberal, I voted Obama, I'll probably vote Hillary in the next election. I think the anarcho libertarians are over-represented in TRP, but that's also true for reddit in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 03:31 AM
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It's not meant to be funny. Mission accomplished.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 03:23 AM
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Doesn't this kind of shit belong on TBP? It sounds like their brand of unfunny garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 11:59 PM
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You can't be cool and angry at the same time. I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 07:21 PM
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and that doesn't mean they do. Ok so if you take that approach then why did you post this: who raised you to believe that? what hollywood leading men had awful physical appearances and got the girl? in this case cherry picking movies/shows that confirm their bias Dude, I went with the most popular show on TV right now. That's not cherry picking. i think unless you have a new angle of discussion/thought/evidence we have to accept we don't agree. My issue is that you're arguing against yourself. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 07:14 PM
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i pointed out that show is a absurdest comedy, i.e. not reality Every TV show is not reality except for documentaries. That does not mean that they do not reflect things about reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 06:48 PM
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isn't that the topic at hand, red pillers ability/inability to ignore movies where attractive men get women and obsess over movies where unattractive men do (conveniently claiming the latter mislead them)? So what does that have to do with how I separate fantasy from reality? I pointed out that the most popular TV show shows unattractive guys and attractive women and all you've done is dance around it with bullshit responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:37 PM
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some would call your non-response to a very clearly worded question a shit post. but i'll just call it what it is, avoidance/dodgery. You ask me why I don't jump off buildings when I watch superman and you considered that a "clearly worded question"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:24 PM
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your shitposts keep getting better, why do you even pretend like you can make some sort of sentient point?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:18 PM
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ok, and do you think anyone thinks that show is an accurate depiction of reality? What the fuck does that have to do with the argument? Additionally it's a way more accurate depiction of reality than any of the movies you linked to. You backpedal so fast I can't keep up with shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:08 PM
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what matters is whether most romantic context male leads are attractive Ok let's take the biggest sitcom on TV right now, the Big Bang Theory. The male leads are unattractive yet paired up with chicks that are supermodel hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:46 PM
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an outlier used to exploit blue collar audiences So why did you even ask if you are just going to write off any examples someone gives with that excuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:35 PM
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Ok, that's a meaningful statement, it has meaning. The previous statement "Why aren't you intolerant of my intolerance, don't you see what's wrong with that sentence" is meaningless because it could support any argument whatsoever. Do you see what was wrong with that sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 12:53 PM
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"Why aren't you tolerant of my intolerance." Do you see what's wrong with that sentence? Yeah, it doesn't specify what you are tolerant of. I am very tolerant of the intolerance of child pornography, rape, murder and a number of other things society is intolerant of.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 12:46 PM
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Dude, at least read the article "Managing stress is very different by sex," Pickhardt tells WebMD. "Women often seek support to talk out the emotional experience, to process what is happening and what might be done." Whether its friends, family, or a support group, women like to tell their stories. "Men often seek an escape activity to get relief from stress, to create a relaxing diversion, to get away," says Pickhardt. Golfing is a common example of how men escape -- they're acting out their st…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 12:07 PM
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Sure but they don't show it to others. Did you read any part of the link or am I just talking to a wall? The link clearly showed how men's hormones cause them to deal with stress in a stoic way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 05:43 PM
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There are also many writers, motivational speakers with down syndrome, or people in managerial positions, etc. You named some entrepreneurs and business owners, but no corporate CEOs. As for the rest, what's your fucking point? CEOs have to be smart. Politicians have to be smart. That's the point I made and you've never even attempted to argue with it but to say that the IQ system is flawed and they have to be smart in some nebulous "other way" as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 05:23 PM
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loses her job or quits to stay home No attraction lost. the wife gets fat attraction lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 03:29 PM
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There are people with Down syndrome who own a successful business. Can you name some? Maybe name some politicians too. And do you really think THEY actually run the business? I mean, seriously, there are thousands, if not millions of CEOs in the world, you can't argue that every one of them is a prodigy. That's not what I'm arguing. I'm arguing that the best are smart. Currently there's no better way, but just because there isn't doesn't mean we should take IQ for an absolute standard. I'm not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 03:14 PM
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If being a dick to women works now, what happens when being a dick to women doesn't work? Checkmate TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 01:17 PM
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Not test in particular, but still linked to male hormone production
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:40 PM
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IQ has little to do with being a leader or CEO. Do you think someone with a <60 IQ could do it? IQ is a pretty flawed and stagnant way to measure certain mental skills, it's not some ultimate guide on how smart someone is. If you have a better way to measure it that is easy to use for the purpose of this discussion, I am welcome to it. However, I'd argue that Einstein or Beethoven wouldn't make great CEOs. Being a CEO is more about people's skills than having raw mathematical intelligence I disa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:36 PM
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I'm curious, then, as to the level of blame laid at feminism for the statistics of genders in college and homeless, as you laid out. I don't blame any of that. I'm not one of those MRA faggots. I don't think we can make everything even. I think men should receive harsher punishments because their crimes are usually more violent and malicious. I think parental rights should be slightly skewed towards women because the mother is naturally more connected to the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 02:17 AM
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So even accounting for the extra advantages women have been given by the state, the large number of homeless or disenfranchised men "at the bottom" is something to be expected, yes? Absolutely. We can already see that in imprisonment rates, homeless rates and dropout rates with men. We also see and should expect, more women in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:59 AM
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If he got a shorter haircut that pulled down over some of his head, he wouldn't look as eggheaded. His awkward personality would take a lot more practice being social, but it could be fixed too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 03:29 PM
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RP saying that if you're not some Superman or Chad Thundercock then your SO is going to cheat on you and it's your own fault for being a pathetic incel, which if Black Pill guy First Last is anything to by, leads to clinical depression. We didn't make him depressed, he would have been depressed anyway, we just inspired him enough to make a video to talk himself out of actually put the work into trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 02:03 PM
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Some random guy on the internet lives down the street from you? How coincidental.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 01:58 PM
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There's literally nothing outside of steroids and plastic surgery that he can do to change his fate. Are you kidding? He could go to the gym, get a decent haircut, and buy clothes at J Crew instead of Walmart.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 12:42 PM
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Funny the guys that say that are all fat ugly losers. This guy would have a bigger dick if his gut didn't cover half of it. This guy's face wouldn't look like Mr. Potatohead if he got an adult haircut.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 12:35 PM
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Not at all linked to testosterone. Not test in particular, but still linked to male hormone production: In women, when cortisol and epinephrine rush through the bloodstream in a stressful situation, oxytocin comes into play. It is released from the brain, countering the production of cortisol and epinephrine, and promoting nurturing and relaxing emotions. While men also secrete the hormone oxytocin when they're stressed, it's in much smaller amounts, leaving them on the short end of the stick wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 12:23 PM
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sto·ic ˈstōik/ noun a person who can endure pain or hardship without showing their feelings or complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 12:40 AM
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well all of them are effects of testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 12:08 AM
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Not for me, I prefer girls who have guys to compare me to so they know how good I am ... and don't need to 'wonder' IF another guy might be better You'll regret it when that cock addiction relapses. Better off with a girl that hasn't ever been addicted to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 11:37 PM
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I don't mind having an even number of men and women but only if those women are equally capable with their male counterparts. Well if you accept that the variance is higher in men, theoretically that should not happen given a perfect meritocracy. Certainly there would still be women in those roles, but unless our intelligence variance starts to even out one way or the other, it shouldn't ever be even.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 08:55 PM
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That would apply if being a CEO or political leader required truly extreme levels of intelligence. I think they do. Here's the breakdown of US president IQ. Even the lowest are still in the top 15%.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 08:52 PM
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Well you say that "the testosterone difference doesn't cause major behavioural differences" yet men commit vast more violent crimes than women. How could those two ideas possibly coexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 08:48 PM
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he testosterone difference doesn't cause major behavioural differences How does it not? Male hormones account for every facet of "toxic masculinity". Aggression, dominance, strength, stoicism, sexual drive, all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 05:27 PM
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Wouldn't you think it is related to the controversy over CEOs and political leaders being more male? If we agree that there is more variance in men when it comes to intelligence, this would mean that there are more really dumb men, more really smart men, and more average women. If we also agree that the leaders of our corporations and countries should be the smartest people, this would obviously lead to more men in those fields. Yet there is a push from everyone from McDonalds to the UN to put a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 05:15 PM
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It doesn't come out of nowhere- it stars early and escalates. The first time it starts, don't you think it was a surprise? Don't you think a woman would avoid a man who shows abusive tendencies early? Don't you think the man would hide these and then begin to show them after a period of time? I'm just pointing out that the idea of "unconditional love" doesn't exist. Everyone's love comes with conditions, the most universal being "you won't hurt me or my loved ones or generally be a terrible pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 04:33 PM
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The cycle of abuse is complicated and I am hardly an expert but look at that article I posted. I think it is far more likely that abusive behavior and controlling tendencies escalate or become more frequent as the relationship goes on than just appear out of nowhere. That still kind of requires it to come out of nowhere. I mean I guess it might get worse and worse, but it still probably came from someone who had shown no symptoms previously. Additionally these only discusses general paterns. I'l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 01:09 PM
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First of all, it sounds like you blame abuse victims I'm taking them at their word that men just turn into abusive assholes and don't start that way. Surely no one would actively go after someone who is abusive from the beginning. My specific case is relevant because you're asking about my scenario I'm asking your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 01:09 AM
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Do you guys really believe people out of the blue just start abusing their wives? When I read stories about it, that's the way it seems to be. I will admit that it's possible that the women say this to divert their own responsibility to not get involved with an abusive asshole, but in that case, what's the difference? The idea that I should protect myself from a man who has never shown any violent or controlling tendencies in case he randomly goes full Heraclese is just bizarre. Maybe you love h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 07:22 PM
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/r/hapas
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 07:11 PM
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You're just turning "love" into a weasel word.If he started abusing you and your kids and turned out to be an asshole you would hate him, which is the opposite of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 07:09 PM
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All you have to do is go to any popular room in myfreecams and there will be hundreds of morons like this, all happily chatting to a girl in between tips, under the pitiful delusion that there is mutual respect in the transaction. Shit at least in those the guys get to see their tits or watch them cram a pineapple up their asshole.
/r/TheRedPill05/09/15 08:47 PM
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They are not a majority as referenced as above and as proven by the comments in TRP How can you prove that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 08:32 PM
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are you asking why people like money? I'll give you a more genuine answer. Both people want to have the same quality of life apart as they had together, this is impossible to do with the same amount of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 05:27 PM
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he doesn't have much muscles, though he has wide shoulders so a natural vshape That would make a T shape at best. The fact is that V shape is caused by muscles. Not necessarily bulging muscles, but the kind you still have to go to the gym to get. i don't care about muscles, they don't really do anything for me. It's not the muscles. I get it, you don't care about big arnie muscles, but most guys can't get close to that without roids and 6-8 hours a day at the gym. An hour at the gym 3 days a wee…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 05:26 PM
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But "slim" is a vague term. For example look at this guy. Both instances are "slim", but in the 150lb version his shape is different because those 20 pounds are distributed to his upper body, going from an 'l' to more of a "V" shape. Ask yourself which you find more attractive, then stop saying you find skinny guys attractive, not everyone who hits the gym gets an NFL body, and if 150lb guy stops going to the gym he'll go right back to the unattractive 130lb beanpole.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:41 PM
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Are you sure you're not just pretending to be something you're not To some degree don't you think we control who we are and what we are become? Do you really think we are just born and damned to a path that if we stray it's dishonest to ourselves? That's such a defeatist mindset. He has made himself into who he wants to be, how is that "being something you're not"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:35 PM
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As much as RPers love to disregard the most vocal (like those that follow a religion), if a majority are understanding the text of RP philosophy in an extreme way shouldn't something be done about the 'ambiguity' and 'open to interpretation' nature that that text encapsulates? You are really trying to force the religion analogy, so I'll help you. Do you blame islam itself as a religion for the actions of it's most vocal and extreme? Do you blame the black race or black culture for it's larger cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 03:02 PM
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You article doesn't back up most of those quotes, but the ones it does, you cherry picked the shit out of: "I was fucking her from behind, getting to the end in the way I normally did, when all of a sudden she said, “Wait, Stop! ,I want to go back on top.” I put on a condom, lubed up, and finally got her consent to put it in. … I put her on her stomach and went deep, pounding her pussy like a pedophile. How can you, in good conscious, cut those parts out? You're dishonest as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 01:21 PM
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It's an analogy to illustrate the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 12:54 PM
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maybe it's just a simple persecution complex? If you consider their fears paranoid or unjustified, which I'm sure you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 12:52 PM
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Just wade through the bullshit, ignore the whining bloopers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 12:50 PM
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You're getting to old for this shit also, you're off the force, again, turn in your badge and your gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 12:48 PM
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So what the fuck gives? I blame KotakuInAction, GamerGate, TumblrInAction, MRA and all those other whiny nerds who have change TRP from being about self change and understanding sexual relationships to just another gender wars battlefield.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:39 AM
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The reason it's not a victim complex is that a victim complex requires that the believer thinks that they are under no obligation to prevent the harm. Someone with a victim mentality expects other people to change, TRP says you can only change yourself, it's foundation is that the world won't change, and as far as human sexual relationships go, hasn't ever changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:36 AM
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What would you call someone who has to strive to overcome societal oppression? It depends on how they do it: A woman says "I don't want to be raped, I'm going to make sure I go to safe places, keep my wits about me, and anything else I can do to keep myself safe" Another woman says "I don't want to be raped and I don't want to have to change the things I do, I'm just going to complain until everyone else changes" Basically it depends on if you are going to change and take ownership of the situat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:29 AM
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what the fuck does that have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:24 AM
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but when I look at its front page, I see a lot of unnecessary attacks on the opposite sex. So you're the tone police?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:20 AM
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'ownership' in terms of TRP is nothing more than trying to make on self more attractive women -lifting, confidence, 'ALPHA' etc... And when it doesn't work its still ALWAYS someone else's fault - she was frigid, she was with a group of friends, AWALT, she wanted me to buy a drink Those are two different things. There's nothing wrong with the first one, the second is hamstering. The generally accepted reply to getting turned down on TRP is either "your SMV wasn't high enough" or "she just didn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:19 AM
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damn, you're so salty you're going through peoples post history you absolutely mad
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 05:41 PM
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no, I don't upvote either
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 05:37 PM
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I don't report things because they offend me, I report things because this sub becomes really lame if it's just a bunch of people calling each other faggots.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 05:19 PM
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Oh it's another one of "TRP is obvious you dummies" posts. Well regardless, I see you haven't even mentioned masculinity and understanding women's attraction to it. I would cite that as being more of the core of TRP. Hypergamy and alpha/beta are kind of reasons why or how, but rediscovering masculinity is "the red pill". Many of us were raised in an environment where we were told that masculinity, "being a man", assertive, dominance, aggressiveness, etc. were all qualities that made women uncomf…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 12:23 PM
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You were trying to persuade me that the psychological impact of having sex is comparable to the psychological impact of killing a person They are comparable in both can have a psychological effect but not a physical one. I make no claim on the nature of that effect or the magnitude of them, merely that they are both examples of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 11:35 PM
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She never claimed that having sex for the first time had no effect on her. She claimed it had no "value". I assumed that meant the same thing as effect. If sex is analogous to murder for you, why are you trying to make women do it? It's analogous in the sense that it can effect you mentally and not physically which was the point I was trying to make. See an analogy does not equate two things, it merely shows and area where they are similar. For example I could say a square is like a circle in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 08:00 PM
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but who's talking to their dad about their virginity? People outside of your white bubble that are forced to live in the same house as the rest of their family. Not everyone was privileged enough to go off to whichever college then come back and get handed a job or a spouse that provided enough to allow you to live by yourself in one of the most expensive cities in the world. You realize you see people like this everyday right? You just don't have a open minded conversation with people outside y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 07:08 PM
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Well I imagine most men hearing that a woman hasn't craved sex in months or years would think she is broken? I would just say she wasn't excited enough, however if the woman had never experienced any sexual attraction? I would say she is abnormal and broken. Also, Wanna bet ? I know you're some sort of sex orgy freak, but considering you're a woman and can't actually penetrate it's debatable you've even had sex with one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 07:01 PM
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See as a woman who hangs around women, I've seen many women go through months (hell sometimes years) of not craving sex and then suddenly craving it. Well that's still having both a libido and sex drive. Again I don't think men understand female sexuality at all. I've probably had sex with more women than you,
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:55 PM
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I mean I could give you examples of the value of virginity in Jewish, Italian, and Jamaican culture, but it surprises me that you haven't talked to these people yourself to understand how their perspectives differ from yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:52 PM
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Do you consider women broken because they typically have a lower relative libido than the male libido? No, only when they have absolutely no libido whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:47 PM
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If you weren't wealthy, you would probably be more socially conservative and know other people who valued virginity and understand the value yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:46 PM
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There is not a thing in the human body called "virginity" that disappears upon penetration. Sure. and there's not some other thing that disappears when you kill someone in war, but it still has a very real effect on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:45 PM
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Rich white girl in NYC, I'm sure you're not privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:32 PM
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The rituals and customs of sexual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:32 PM
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It just sounds like, what do you people call it? Appropriation?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:23 PM
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People don't care about virginity anymore. Only in your privileged bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:22 PM
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I don't think only white prople don't care about virginity They're more likely to be college educated and less likely to be religious and more likely to be liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:18 PM
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Despite the colonization efforts, you guys are still way less than half, way less if you don't include jews.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:14 PM
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Not all of New York City is white, college educated, and upper middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:08 PM
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I'm simply saying that the fact we are not 'normal' has been used against asexuals and it definitely carries a negative connotation because a lot of people use it in a negative way, so it can be quite hurtful. Ok, I feel sorry for that, but it doesn't make my statement a personal attack. It's the same reason I only got in a relationship when I found someone who felt the same way I do about sex, because being with someone who does want it and expect them to never have it wouldn't be fair on my pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:07 PM
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However people will think you're a bit odd. Maybe in the grungy hippie fuckfest you come from, but for most of the planet, my views on the subject are not considered odd in the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 05:58 PM
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No one is suggesting we go about putting a dollar amount on virginity, but that doesn't mean there isn't value on it or meaning. The memories you have of it are valuable and meaningful. There's a reason you look back at the first guy and Jenna Jameson doesn't even remember guy #5084.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 05:57 PM
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I think the key difference is that it's important to the individual 'losing it', but outside of that it's really not a big deal. Well at the very least there's one other person involved in the act that it could matter to, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 05:52 PM
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But those things aren't as pervasive as virgin preference. I can find heaps of examples of people that didn't practice stoning or genital mutilation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 05:50 PM
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There's no such thing as 'normal' human being, only common. Then what's the use of the word normal? Normal human beings have 2 arms. That doesn't mean that 0,1, or 3+ armed people are hideous monsters, but it does mean they aren't normal. It's only a problem if you try to impose that on the people who don't feel the same way. What if that person is your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 05:49 PM
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But it is a good indicator of what's normal and what is some strange insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 05:34 PM
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Why then would such an interest in the sexual partners of others be so pervasive throughout all of mankind throughout all of history if it were not natural?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 05:10 PM
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Calling someone 'a broken human being' is definitely a personal attack, I don't see what else you could have been trying to accomplish there. I meant that you are missing a component of a normal human being, which would be sexual drive and appetite. Maybe that word has some negative connotations I'm not aware of? I know sex is important for a lot of people and it was never my intention to say that it shouldn't be, so apologies if I didn't make that clear. Can you understand how the first time ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 05:09 PM
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No, I said if it was due to insecurity it would make me question things as I don't really want to deal with someone who is insecure. To me your judgment and curiosity about his experience with prostitutes is something that makes you insecure. Or at least, according to you. Let me suggest something different. Your curiosity about his experience with prostitutes and his curiosity (which he has even if he's never asked) about your previous sexual partners are completely natural feelings that it wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 05:01 PM
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Sleeping with a prostitute is peculiar. I'd just be curious what was up for him to do that. And according to you that indicates insecurity. It wouldn't make or breK my relationship unless it was some fucked up shit like he wanted to beat her up or something. Kink-shaming much?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:52 PM
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I wasn't trying to attack you personally, but considering you have no desire for the very topic we are discussing, don't you think that could cause you to be very dismissive of it's importance to other people. AKA virginity isn't important to me because sex isn't important to me, therefore it shouldn't be important to anyone else either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:51 PM
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There's a big difference between the act and the word. The word refers to the act. You're saying "have sex for the first time" that's literally the definition of "losing your virginity".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:48 PM
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It depends. My boyfriend is conventionally attractive. I would wonder why it was necessary. Is he too insecure to ask girls out? Did he do it on holiday with his friends in budapest? Is he just really desperate for sex constantly to the point he needs to buy it? Or did he just want to get the first time over with? all of these reasons would mean something different to me. Why would it mean anything to you? Your interest in his sexual past indicates someone who has deep seeded insecurities, and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:47 PM
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having sex for the first time, the actual act That's the exact same thing as losing your virginity. If you're saying that the act of having sex for the first time is important, then that's exactly the same as saying virginity is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:41 PM
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I'm asexual, sex-repulsed, and don't plan on having sex ever, and I don't even consider myself a virgin. Considering you're a broken human being and vastly different than the majority of our species, do you really feel like your a good judge of it's sexual terminology and how in or out of date it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:38 PM
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