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Also the fact that she won’t do it with you means she valued the ex higher than you. Giant red flag for that. Run
/r/RPChristians26/03/25 04:01 PM
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It doesnt hurt to message, but its OLD man. The ghost rate is at least 20 percent, the hotter they are the higher it is
/r/TheRedPill04/01/25 02:55 PM
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My response: who gives a fuck. If people you actually care about say this, find new people to care about. Otherwise, who gives a fuck
/r/MensRights31/12/24 08:38 PM
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Yeah very similar to you. Glad to see that Im not the only one experiencing this phenomenon. Im 30. I make on avg 300k a year. Some years slightly more, some less. Im jacked. Im slightly above avg height (5'11), balding (but shaved) and have what I would assume to be an avg looking face. Ive been told a lot that I look like a navy seal/mma fighter. Im "good enough" to get easily a date or 2 a week from apps with mid women. Emphasis on dates. They recently havent been going anywhere. Even if its …
/r/TheRedPill27/12/24 07:11 PM
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As someone who lived in a neighborhood full of investment bankers with hot wives who never once "confronted chaos", this post is bullshit
/r/TheRedPill21/12/24 03:36 AM
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You are genuinely too stupid to argue with
/r/TheRedPill19/12/24 02:05 PM
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And you seem to have missed the point of the entire post I made. You are more likely to have a conversation with them if it is a necessity and you dont have the fallback of OLD
/r/TheRedPill17/12/24 03:14 PM
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I dont think you need to go and hang around in public places to talk to women in public. I live in a city and am on foot for day to day things. There are beautiful women everywhere and you can talk to them while doing your day to day tasks. Having a hot girlfriend is easily preferable to having a fat or ugly one. You do you though just so you wont "be that guy".
/r/TheRedPill16/12/24 04:53 PM
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Unsure what your point is with this comment. Im noting a behavior in myself and that i see in men all around me and analyzing the cause. If you read the post and the behavior Im talking about, its not "fear based". It is being ok with mediocrity if you are partially attaining some goal. It can be abstracted to almost any domain of life. Being that this is a dating strategy sub, I applied it to modern dating apps. Sorry for offending Alpha Giga Chad. I bet you get soooo many chicks bro
/r/TheRedPill16/12/24 04:00 PM
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I know a fair amount of women who have never used a dating app and they date more "equal" per say (Ie the guy is slightly above average and has a hot girlfriend). Social circle and cold approach almost always win in getting a long term hot stable girlfriend. You see this a lot in the south where dating apps are less ubiquitous and a lot of people pair up in college or shortly after college. If you go to the northeast and are single in your 30s, you begin to see what you describe on rampant displ…
/r/TheRedPill16/12/24 02:12 PM
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I do think he has somewhat of a point. Women "in person" view the meeting as serendipitous and or more masculine behavior if you approach in person just because almost no men approach in person anymore
/r/TheRedPill16/12/24 02:09 PM
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removed last paragraph
/r/TheRedPill15/12/24 09:01 PM
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Yeah - I realized I fell into this region and need to rethink my app usage entirely. I like having it as a fallback, but because I have it as a fallback, Im not reaching my full potential socially
/r/TheRedPill15/12/24 05:25 PM
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Im torn between the two. On one hand, my longest relationship came from OLD. Ive also met the most amount of women via apps. On the other hand, its a crutch and time suck. Im attractive enough to get dates, but not attractive enough to consistently go out with women on the apps that I deem as 8 or above. Does it happen? Yes. The most attractive 3 women Ive ever gone out with came from apps. But it came at the cost of wasting probably hundreds of hours and my mental sanity for it. I also pay for …
/r/TheRedPill15/10/24 02:18 PM
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If you really want to actually fix the problem, do the following Take 6 months of expenses - which will be roughly 30k depending on where you live Leave your family and town and move out on your own. Take no money or any help from anyone Necessity is the only cure for this issue. If you dont fix this, it will be a sad life for you
/r/TheRedPill27/01/23 01:49 PM
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To quite literally take over the world - The legacy and utility of everything belong to your family and friends
/r/TheRedPill27/01/23 01:36 PM
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Good Analogy #cantGetLaidSkeep
/r/TheRedPill27/01/23 12:35 AM
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Yawn #JamesSkeepCantGetLaid
/r/TheRedPill27/01/23 12:31 AM
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Well thought out and sounds like a good plan in the short term
/r/TheRedPill27/01/23 12:30 AM
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I have a feeling James Skeep is an endorsed contributor who is still figuring out how to get laid consistently. If he could, he wouldnt be posting all the time. But being that he has nothing else to do, post away
/r/TheRedPill27/01/23 12:28 AM
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If other methodologies actually worked long term, they would be written down and passed on to each generation. "They still cheat" - is basically an argument for polygamy. Which has never worked in any society ever long term. I highly doubt that most "trad cons" believe that women should just arbitrarily submit to them. Many of the primary motivations for working hard is attracting women, even for religious men (though its not the only reason for it). All ceos are men because of the sexual impera…
/r/TheRedPill27/01/23 12:27 AM
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A lot of guys lives and minds on this forum are consumed with "must have sex with women over any other life objective" - it is no different than being a video game addict or a drug addict if it consumes your life. It is their primary life goal, which by itself is pathetic. I can post on a beer forum that you shouldnt be shit faced all day and still be pro drinking beer Youre an idiot
/r/TheRedPill26/01/23 07:40 PM
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That is more concrete. Which leads me to my original question - 2/3 of what you described is traditional western christian ethos. Why not just follow that with caveats? It seems odd to recreate an entire structure solely to create one that already exists
/r/TheRedPill26/01/23 05:22 PM
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What would you do after you buy a big house? Sit in it?
/r/TheRedPill26/01/23 05:20 PM
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What do you mean by traditional? Im assuming stay at home wife and 3-6 kids? How has your luck been in meeting women interested in that? Where are you based?
/r/TheRedPill26/01/23 05:19 PM
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Its still based in women. Harem is quite literally - "get laid by n women instead of a woman, and hopefully they will be loyal to only me" Alexander the greats purpose wasnt to "have a harem" - it was a side effect
/r/TheRedPill26/01/23 05:18 PM
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You have a fair amount of arbitrary goals, but not a lot of why. Getting ripped, getting a "good" career, and being a good musician all seem to have the why of "Man I hope this gets me laid"
/r/TheRedPill26/01/23 05:16 PM
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Purely hedonistic activities are not bad examples
/r/TheRedPill26/01/23 05:13 PM
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That is a vague quote that has no meaning behind it. "Live a better life" - The question is HOW are you choosing to do that
/r/TheRedPill26/01/23 05:13 PM
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The end goal is to make my own decisions, and to create my own framework of reality that prioritizes my goals and desires. What is your framework of reality? What are your goals?
/r/TheRedPill26/01/23 03:12 PM
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Thats an incredibly vague answer. You essentially just said your end goal is nothing. What are you trying to achieve specifically?
/r/TheRedPill26/01/23 03:03 PM
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Playing video games, smoking weed and drinking alcohol is fun for a lot of people too. Id call you an idiot if that was your goal in life too
/r/TheRedPill26/01/23 03:01 PM
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Its very simple. The only way for a soyboy to compete is to become a total whipping post to potential female mates. Masculine men do not have to do that because they are naturally much more attractive in general
/r/TheRedPill26/01/23 02:25 PM
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You seem to be one of the few people here who have actually read my post and understood that the target audience is virgin/sexually inexperienced men, not every guy in here. Thanks for actually reading. You cannot, in almost any domain, go from fool to expert overnight. Youll spend a lot more time around women in relationships then you would in a series of one night stands
/r/TheRedPill19/12/21 03:56 AM
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It is not bad or dangerous advice. If you, as an individual, would like a steady supply of sex, a relationship is one possible way to attain that. It is the most practical way for many of the incels that scroll these forums. If youre not an incel, great, you do you. But the vast majority of guys on here are not getting a steady supply of sex. They also wont magically turn into chad. And they will likely never be chad. Therefore, its sometimes better to take a long hard look in the mirror and tak…
/r/TheRedPill19/12/21 03:50 AM
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Yeah, that guess would be accurate, being that I literally stated that I had a girlfriend and like being in relationships. You are quite the rocket scientist
/r/TheRedPill18/12/21 09:36 PM
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yes, lack of frame coming from the guy writing multiple paragraphs on my 5 second response... k
/r/TheRedPill18/12/21 08:54 PM
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yes, the consumption is doing so well for you my friend
/r/TheRedPill18/12/21 02:37 PM
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You just disproved your own conjecture. You are correct that not all other people would not benefit from it. But it goes both ways. Just because you believe plates are better does not mean all other people should be doing that
/r/TheRedPill18/12/21 02:36 PM
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lol dude.... please leave the computer for 5 minutes... the outside is not bad
/r/TheRedPill18/12/21 01:59 PM
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Thats great. "The Red Pill" refers to posts within the subreddit that is called "The Red Pill" - But thanks soooo so much for pointing that out
/r/TheRedPill18/12/21 04:49 AM
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Yeah... this post is delusional bullshit. What likely happened: He was out doing something, had a few lucky encounters that all of us eventually run into, then concluded that cold approach is useless
/r/TheRedPill18/12/21 03:51 AM
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In theory yes, but too many young men on here are virgins/no experience at all with women and expect to be "spinning plates" and having "20 bodies in 3 months". They need to walk before they run. Having a girlfriend should be promoted for these men. Its more attainable The ability to obtain another girlfriend relatively quickly if things go south (number 3 where men go wrong in my list) is analogous to the abundance mentality
/r/TheRedPill18/12/21 03:46 AM
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lol... dog. You cannot tell people this because its not possible to sift out perfectly who is interested and who isnt. Trying to do this will cause paralysis in most men. Im a borderline fitness model and have women regularly check me out in the gym. If I approached them all, Id have about a 1/5 success rate in getting numbers. There is risk in every approach that you will get rejected. Recognizing IOIs != dont approach and let them come to you
/r/TheRedPill18/12/21 03:15 AM
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And youre above your animal instincts? Right right
/r/TheRedPill18/12/21 02:54 AM
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Lol youre telling guys to read the side bar. smh
/r/TheRedPill18/12/21 02:52 AM
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Please stfu and stop replying to my posts. Youre contradicting yourself. You said in your OP that YOU say "hey". That by definition is cold approaching Now youve changed your story and are claiming that they magically flock to you. Right Right.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/21 02:50 AM
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This is so completely untrue. If youre sitting at the bar with someone talking, yes it will happen (albeit a low rate). Standing in the corner by yourself? I find it very hard to believe youve ever left your living room. If that was the case, there would be no reason for the red pill, online dating or any sexual advice. All men would be getting laid because women would just magically come up to them. Even the woke social scientists have documented this phenomenon that women will not start intera…
/r/TheRedPill18/12/21 02:48 AM
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Umm Yeah... I dont live on the forums fuck face... this is the first one I saw in months, and its shit... therefore Ill call it out. Get a life
/r/TheRedPill18/12/21 02:42 AM
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Wrong - The tried and true method is APPROACH but use an INDIRECT METHOD such as THE MYSTERY METHOD. What he wrote is a very misguided interpretation of the mystery method where many people will skim and read "DONT APPROACH (Where he went wrong), let women come to you." Hence, its fundamentally wrong even though he attempted to articulate a decades old method in a very poor way
/r/TheRedPill18/12/21 12:03 AM
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You have new guys regurgitating decades old information thinking that theyve found a breakthrough method lol. Truly amazing to read some of these newer posts
/r/TheRedPill17/12/21 07:51 PM
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Yeah, and he's technically wrong on women opening with men. Even if she's interested, its something like 90% of the time, the male will still start the conversation/interaction. A Trash post
/r/TheRedPill17/12/21 07:13 PM
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Yeah, this is another trash post. This is older than The Game Establish social proof or Peacock Can we please get better material on here
/r/TheRedPill17/12/21 07:12 PM
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You literally described approaching. "Dont approach, just say 'Hey' when she gives you IOI." That is one of the oldest and most established techniques on approaching Step 1. Guys peacock and establish social proof Step 2. Garnish attention/IOI Step 3. Open with basic opener like 'Hey' What you are describing is the Mystery Method without calling it the Mystery Method. This has already been well articulated for the past 20 plus years. This forum gets shittier every time I come on.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/21 07:07 PM
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Yes, blame society that you cant get laid. Watch cnn or whatever and scream at the tv and yell "feminism! dammit!" Alphas dont treat people like trash. Bullies do. A true "Alpha" is friends with a lot of people. Grow the fuck up
/r/TheRedPill13/12/21 02:38 PM
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No, a lot of people who dont actually get laid use it. The stats on you guys are depressing. 50 percent of college males having no sex and then blaming tinder for it. Bro, leave your room, go to a frat party/house part/ literally anywhere, and talk to women in real life. Regardless, youre full of shit... You are supposedly getting just soooo many matches yet still are a virgin and are complaining about it. None of your story adds up
/r/TheRedPill13/12/21 02:36 PM
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Genius plan. Treat women like trash. Never get laid... absolutely going places with this strategy. Dude, you need to check your ego and try to fix why women are repulsed by you. You can fix it, but stop thinking youre better than all of these girls
/r/TheRedPill13/12/21 05:37 AM
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Lol dude this guy is bordering on being pathological. "20 bodies in 3 months"... yeah... just like the high school dropout with his business idea who is going to make 10 million bucks this year with no skill set, no degree, no connections and no work/project experience... right right. He needs a plan with baby steps. If you want a million dollar business, you need to focus on gaining your first customer or actually creating a product/service to sell... not walk around demanding to the ether that…
/r/TheRedPill13/12/21 05:35 AM
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Dude, this sounds like something written by someone who hasnt actually gone out. Why not just focus on getting a girlfriend rather than "20 bodies in 3 months." You sound like a child. You do realize you can have relationships with women and that a lot of them are great people. Secondly, you will have more sex and better sex in a relationship than one night stands, especially if youre a virgin who knows nothing. Do you really think the first girl you have sex with is going to be in awe of your i…
/r/TheRedPill13/12/21 05:31 AM
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Not trying to be a cunt, but I highly doubt this is true. If you were attractive, itd be obvious. Having sex would not be an issue for you. "I dont put my attractiveness to good use" - bullshit. Im sorry dude, your story reeks of bullshit. If you could match with all these hot girls on tinder, why are you still a kissless virgin outside of being religious? Why are you even using tinder in college? Pre 23 years old and there is not really a major use case for tinder for guys, especially if youre …
/r/TheRedPill13/12/21 05:25 AM
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Also, you obviously WANT to have sex. It is a goal of yours. So why not achieve that goal? Write down your 3 most important goals. Maybe its 1. Get a girlfriend 2. Get a job/better job/graduate school and 3. get in shape. Now, write out how you will achieve that goal. For the girlfriend, have you done the following: 1. Downloaded every dating app and created a profile. 2. Take 200 pictures of yourself, take the 20 best ones, put them on photofeeler, and then use the top 3-5 on your profile? 3. G…
/r/TheRedPill13/12/21 05:18 AM
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No one is saying you can’t get married. They are saying don’t be desperate and marry the first girl that will allow you to insert your penis in her. There is nothing wrong with being in an an LTR if you have options. Would you want to be completely controlled by your employer? If you got fired, would you be able to get a similar job? That is “being alpha” in a sense. Not how many women you can fuck. But having options
/r/TheRedPill12/12/21 10:28 PM
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A lot of this is guys thinking they should land with models and are bitching that they aren’t in that category. When I accepted that I wasn’t going to be banging models all the time, my morale and sex life drastically improved. My requirements are they can’t be fat and they can’t be a hyper feminist. If you’re mildly in shape and live in an urban area, you can easily match with 50 women during the noob boost (this is the 25-55 crowd... older and younger than this have a tougher time in online da…
/r/TheRedPill04/12/21 02:55 AM
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The only time I use Reddit heavily is when I go through shitty times (ie social life ruined from the Rona, job loss, depression etc). So this is somewhat accurate. I’m not an “alpha” per say, but when life is going good, I’m on here maybe an hour or two a week max vs 10-20 hours when things are shitty
/r/TheRedPill25/10/21 02:13 PM
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That is generally an entry level (they'll call it "mid level") manager. They arent managing the stores, just departments/subsets of the store
/r/TheRedPill29/09/21 02:25 PM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/09/walmart-report-reveals-average-salary-of-its-us-store-managers.html
/r/TheRedPill29/09/21 02:23 PM
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Thats what I find so interesting about feminists. They treat women as mindless toddlers. There is this big push by tinder to have users submit their government ids for "safety" reasons. They'll be slowly pushing it out over the next 5-10 years. They'll fail because the left will be pushing non centralized ids for the next 10 years at least for voting purposes, so tinder will have to back down or face massive public blowback. Regardless, it doesnt change the sentiment. They act as if women are mi…
/r/MensRights26/09/21 06:51 AM
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Its difficult to say exactly. You could be right. Ive never completely dug at theory from all angles. Off the top of my head for your argument, the reason the gabby petito story is so prominent is because she was attractive and popular. From a quick google search, 600k people get reported missing a year with an average of 4500 unidentified bodies. Thats a gabby petito story once every 2 hours to put that into perspective, just counting body numbers. Id assume most of these people werent young an…
/r/MensRights26/09/21 06:47 AM
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Can we do “Wonder Woman”? “Wonder person” is just so much more inclusive. Other animate objects may be offended. Categorization isn’t allowed. We’ll just call her/they/them/it “It”
/r/MensRights26/09/21 03:30 AM
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It’s sexual selection at play. “Creepy men” = unattractive man. We see this when women beg for hot criminals to be released online. Literal murderers. “But he’s cute” - make no mistake. This is a collective sexual strategy
/r/MensRights26/09/21 02:49 AM
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Exactly this. It’s the thing no one takes about. Going back in time, I would’ve tried to find my wife in college. Post college about 4 years now. I don’t really believe that all women magically hit a wall at 30. A lot are still hot. But the single ones have slept with so many guys that it makes no sense to marry any of them and have kids. They will get bored and divorce quickly. At this point I may just move to another country and marry a foreign woman A lot of the higher quality women I know ha…
/r/MensRights26/09/21 01:38 AM
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There is a reason that the motto of this page is "enjoy the decline" - The decline is in direct reference to loss of monogamy. Its also natural to keep eating when hungry. To never want to exercise and sit on the couch. To never want to work. I feel like Im talking to a child here. Goodbye
/r/TheRedPill24/09/21 10:57 PM
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Yes dumbass... everyone playing their own optimal strategy turns into what we have now. Every guy on here thinks hes a top guy or will be in a couple of years. New Flash: Most of you will not be, and hence monogamy would allow you to at least get some sexual advantages
/r/TheRedPill24/09/21 03:23 PM
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This may take the cake of the most useless thing I read on this sub
/r/TheRedPill24/09/21 05:23 AM
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Yeah, he disproved his theory somewhat. Its not that it didnt work, he is just clueless on what to do now that he has some attention
/r/TheRedPill23/09/21 04:29 PM
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Depending on your baseline and where you currently sit, "improving your looks" may be useless. It also may be the most powerful thing you can possibly do. For example, a lot of guys here go nuts when they begin to bald. News Flash fellas: Unless you had ridiculously good hair prior to balding and your head shape isnt an egg, there is almost no difference. Your facial bone structure, height and body musculature all stay the same. Those 3 things define attractiveness more than anything. Grooming, …
/r/TheRedPill23/09/21 04:23 PM
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Not trying to be a dick here but it sounds like you have abysmal genetics. I barely train chest and can bench around 350 at 195 lbs (I also have lifted weights for 10 plus years, so yes, I am maintaining muscle memory and not just starting out raw at 350). I have incredibly good strength and physique genetics. I can tell this because my dad and grandpa had abdominal muscles well into their 40s and they didnt work out and werent "thin" (lean yes, but definetly had some weight). For example, my da…
/r/TheRedPill22/09/21 11:30 PM
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Yeah... its vital to understand that this job is directly tied into your social life. You wont earn a lot in the beginning (you could after years of doing it, but thats a different story... we'll focus on it being low paid for now). You use this job to expand your network, get laid, and solely use this money for "play" purposes.... that could be a vacation, going to a football game or concert, or buying better weed or alcohol. Old people who are connected will be your clients along with a lot of…
/r/TheRedPill22/09/21 10:31 PM
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Yes, exactly this. The thing no one mentions. REAL rape and sexual assault almost ALWAYS happens with alcohol. If they really wanted to solve this issue, the solution is simple. But they dont
/r/TheRedPill22/09/21 05:56 PM
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I had a friend who fucked two girls from the same sorority. Luckily he was a senior. He became an absolute target from all the sororities on campus (wasnt a large school) because he dared to casually fuck two of them and they got upset that they werent the only one. Its astonishing. You meet some dude. Fuck him within hours of meeting him. And then are surprised that he does it with other women. Like what?
/r/TheRedPill22/09/21 05:54 PM
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I just find this so comical. Women bitch about guys showing interest at work, during the day, in normal social situations that arent night life events. Yet, almost all rape/sexual assault on college campuses, actual rape, happens from drinking large amounts of alcohol and attending frat parties while absolutely hammered. They want to be fucked by frat guys, yet get embarrassed when they realize they are just pumped and dumped and become the fraternity's go to whore. If you really wanted to end r…
/r/TheRedPill22/09/21 05:45 PM
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Yeah, I dont think that the people on this thread realize how much of the social service job work force is hooking up and how they never get in trouble ever for it For avg guys on this thread who cant get any dates online and dont really have any nightlife opportunities, jobs like these are a gold mine for them. And even if you do well in those domains, I dont see how this would hurt you in any way long term
/r/TheRedPill22/09/21 03:07 PM
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Everyone can pretty much do anything. Whether they want to or if it makes sense is a different story
/r/TheRedPill21/09/21 03:46 PM
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New York Penal Code 240.1 Great. Again, you are not showing any obscure case such as "a man told a female police officer that shes an affirmative action hire and was successfully prosecuted against in court" - This has happened in other countries. It has not happened here. Further, it is very clear in the penal code that it is "repeatedly." So yes, walking around and following a stranger and calling them a bitch over and over again for 20 minutes is harassment. Calling them a bitch once and walk…
/r/TheRedPill21/09/21 04:34 AM
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Yes, and you are too dumb to see that the discussion you want to have is "what/who is god" and "how should you behave if you believe in god" which can literally take a phd thesis and hundreds to thousands of written articles for someone to define in their own terms
/r/TheRedPill21/09/21 03:58 AM
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I dont believe any of the insane laws you are talking about have ever been passed due to how insane they are and the fact that they are unconstitutional. I can say whatever I want to anyone in this country and I will not get in trouble from a criminal standpoint. The only thing I cannot do is libel, slander or cause physical harm, which are pretty clearly defined. For example, I can tell some chick to "go back to the kitchen." You will never get in trouble for that in America. You would in other…
/r/TheRedPill21/09/21 03:47 AM
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Lol Im not saying the US has the greatest legal system in every single way. But Id much rather live here than in a country like the UK where the have vague speech laws like "if you offend me, I can report you for harassment" for quite literally anything. Like you have guys being fined/put in jail for "sexist" comments in these countries. It will never happen in the US as long as the bill of rights/constitution remains in tact. Which it will unless there is some sort of civil war
/r/TheRedPill21/09/21 03:43 AM
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But what you are saying is worse or exists everywhere. Hence, relatively, the US is better. Court of public opinion will exist everywhere, though conservative countries like the eastern bloc type countries would scoff at many of the bullshit allegations. Family court -> dont get married here if youre worrried about it. Everyone gets an attorney in criminal cases like these. Main point: Its better here than a lot of other western countries like Canada and the UK
/r/TheRedPill21/09/21 03:39 AM
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ehh... not a big deal in the us. We have the first amendment here. Sucks to suck for you guys
/r/TheRedPill20/09/21 11:54 PM
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I fundamentally do agree with what you are saying though. But you arent going to get large amounts of people to switch to non mainstream apps is my main point. So if we use mainstream apps, at least use the more private ones. Apple has battled with the fbi on unlocking phone the phone of a known mass murderer, and basically won in court, so they are better than most companies. Tinder literally scans every message ever sent to make sure its "safe." If thats not scary to people, i dont know what i…
/r/TheRedPill20/09/21 11:16 PM
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They arent entirely wrong. Porn feeds into this feedback loop (makes men less agressive in finding a mate, thus reinforcing the 80-20 rule). The religious people understand that out of control sex leads to the situation we have now. Chads cant simultaneously exist in a sex controlled society (in the sense of actually acting out being chad, not the personification of him). They only exist in polygamous ones. I do agree with your statement on how absolutely incorrect the "casual sex is men's fault…
/r/TheRedPill20/09/21 10:53 PM
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we arent going to sit here and argue what "god" is and is not ok with. I have no idea what your definition of god even is and Im not going to enter an endless debate on religion with you. Goodbye
/r/TheRedPill20/09/21 09:29 PM
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You arent going to get people to stop using windows or anything apple makes. WhatsApp, at least for the time being, only stores data between messenger and recipient(s), which is better than any other mainstream messaging app (fb, ig, any dating app, etc). Apple, for being as large as it is, is still very good when it comes to privacy. Also, please dont call me a fucking activist
/r/TheRedPill20/09/21 09:24 PM
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right right... the west, which follow judeo christian values to a tee, doesnt believe in monogamy and controlled sexual relations... right
/r/TheRedPill20/09/21 09:17 PM
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Made an edit to my previous comment (at the top). Walmart managers avg 175k a year (2019 data... so likely a bit higher today). The difference in pay can swing either way. My main point is most it jobs are shit and overrated. You may have a good one. But Ive worked in some that are insanely mundane and boring, suck the life out of you, are surrounded by nerds all day etc... Walmart would at least be active, around younger co workers, and pay will be roughly the same. We can sit here debating all…
/r/TheRedPill20/09/21 08:25 PM
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I completely disagree here. Very few people live a nomadic lifestyle. Further, it is much more difficult than youre making it out to be. You will have no solid friendships or acquaintances. This leads to less advantageous nightlife. Im not sure how traveling nomadically (assuming you stay in the us) would beat living in a large city. If you live in a large city, nightlife and apps are virtually the same, plus youd have a social life, and a side job like bartending or working at walmart could be …
/r/TheRedPill20/09/21 07:43 PM
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This is partially correct. There are 2 sides to the pareto distribution. One is female choice, which we know and is already talked about throughout the manosphere. The other is this. Ghangis khan style warriors fucking the shit out of anything that had a pulse involuntarily. Fundamentally, socially enforced monogamy, what the west was built on, was the sweet spot where everyone wins. If you tip to far in either direction, society crumbles
/r/TheRedPill20/09/21 07:09 PM
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Exactly this. JP gets crucified for saying "Im not sure men and women can work together. It hasnt been around long enough for us to know." To which every person crucifies him screaming "weve done it for 50 years!!!" Yeah, no shit sherlock. That is 0 time from an evolutionary perspective. Do it for 20 generations (if it can last that long, which it wont) and then we'll have the answer. We might not even be able to reproduce above replacement, let alone function well, with the trajectory we are he…
/r/TheRedPill20/09/21 07:06 PM
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lol my man... yes, hypergamy, when held in check, is a benefit. When we enter polygamy, societies crumble. Have you ever noticed how the 3 major religions of the world all say that casual sex is the biggest sin of them all? How virgins are worshipped second only to god? There is a reason for this. The polygamous cultures ceased to exist. The ones that said, "Hey, we need to keep this sex thing in check. If a man and woman fuck, they stay together. Idc if you crave more tits or more dick" still e…
/r/TheRedPill20/09/21 06:51 PM
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I wouldnt say its shit, but definitely overrated imo. It is good for ease and money, but thats about it
/r/TheRedPill20/09/21 05:16 PM
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There are pros and cons.... but from a sex standpoint, you just disproved your point. It is dangerous at a big tech company to be flirtatious with co workers... not saying it cant be done, but it is easily a more difficult environment than walmart. Walmart will have 18-24 year olds mostly. These companies will have 23-50 year old women, many being taken already. Further, it depends on the walmart. Walmart in the bumb fuck middle of nowhere or around older people? Correct. Walmart near or in a co…
/r/TheRedPill20/09/21 05:15 PM
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I was actually thinking about this the other day. If I had to compete against my 20 year old self vs my late 20s self, my late 20s self would absolutely beat the shit out of the 20 year old in almost every way. Thats what these guys are up against. I kind of feel bad. But its life
/r/TheRedPill20/09/21 03:43 PM
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Yeah, we are heavily downplaying how good of a job this for financial and non financial reasons. 120k as a software engineer with virtually no access to vagina vs a 90k walmart manager who is swimming in college students? Yeah, Ill take the walmart manager job any day of the week. Go make a fucking app in your free time Edit: just looked up walmart data: Avg store manager is making 175k a year (in 2019)... this beats the shit out of most software jobs. For real, I may be looking to work at walma…
/r/TheRedPill20/09/21 03:41 PM
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ehhh... walmart is not a bad place to get laid. Your workers are going to be 17-25 year old college students. Many will be hot and making min wage or close to it. If you get fired, so what, its fucking walmart. Id legit consider this as a solid part time gig if you were looking to save up money for a trip/house/medical procedure/car/wanted completely free schooling as an adult etc and arent the go out and party all the time type. Thursday - Sat night shifts and having complete access to young ho…
/r/TheRedPill20/09/21 03:39 PM
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Is it really an assumption or truth. All 3 beliefs that you just stated have some truth to them
/r/MensRights20/09/21 04:25 AM
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It hides the fact that we've been fed a lie sexually. Women are the one's who use men and are very shallow when it comes to dating. Instead of saying "Youre ugly; Youre not tall; Youre not muscular; Youre not very wealthy; Youre not very smart; You arent very popular" they just say "He needs to work on himself" and then go sleep with the hot bartender who is broke and snorts coke every other day... because hes such a catch?? Right right.... it would ruin the entire narrative if they admitted the…
/r/MensRights20/09/21 04:23 AM
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It depends... a lot of us dont have a vibrant social life and dont really want one outside of the benefit of being able to have sex with a lot of hot women. For example, if you took out the prospect of getting laid, Id probably never step foot inside of a bar ever To your point about "caring about your job," I mostly agree. If you become an executive at a fortune 500 company, Id advise against fucking a low level employee or anyone in the company. But if you are anything below a director or not …
/r/TheRedPill19/09/21 11:47 PM
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I hate the "dont shit where you eat" advice. Its an excuse. The benefit of being a bartender, personal trainer, dj etc. is exactly that. You get to shit everywhere if you play your cards right and arent an idiot about things. For the guys at work who are always afraid of "sexual harassment." A few things. This only really matters if you are director level or above in corporate America at a large company. Most of us arent. If you get a bullshit claim filed against you, leave the company. The only…
/r/TheRedPill19/09/21 07:44 PM
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We should pin this quote to the top of the sub
/r/TheRedPill17/09/21 05:35 AM
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For any younger guy, this is why its important to be around other men, both around your age and significantly older. If you play high school sports every season, you will absolutely come across alpha coaches. The more alpha the sport (think more physical contact), the more likely your coach will have alpha traits. Wrestling, football and field/sprint events for track have the most per capita imo. So if you dont have a dad, or a weak dad, or if you just want extra adult figures that are masculine…
/r/TheRedPill17/09/21 05:34 AM
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right right.... people have instagram solely to make their exes jealous and deceive people. It is hilarious how much projection you have coming from these comments. You are just too moral for IG man. We get it Something tells me that you have very little experience with women... what could it possibly be lol
/r/TheRedPill16/09/21 05:44 AM
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Its generally true... but it depends on the region of the country, size of city, age etc
/r/TheRedPill15/09/21 10:54 PM
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Im done arguing with your stupidity. The title of your fucking post is "I cant sleep with 8s and above on tinder" yet you now claim to sleep with 8s consistently from tinder. I've slept with plenty of 8's off Tinder According to the fucking post you just made, you have not You are too stupid to argue with. There are so many contradictions and inconsistencies that you have made in this post and comment section that it would take another hour to fully go through your arguments and try to ciphen ou…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/21 08:18 PM
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There is no app in existence where you get more matches after the newb boost. Can quality increase slightly on hinge? Its theoretically possible, but highly unlikely. The reason is simple. You have the top elo score when you create the app. It can only go down. The only possible way that what you are describing can happen is if you had god awful pics, switched them halfway through, and then your elo score built up again. That is technically the only way it is possible. The algorithm simply doesn…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/21 07:53 PM
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I do not think you understand demographics. Go move to manhattan, fairfax va, san fran, boston, ie any major metro, and then tell me that 100k is "abnormally high." You are taking a nationwide average. The op said "north texas" - this refers to dallas and or fort forth in most cases. This area has the highest pay per cola in the country
/r/TheRedPill15/09/21 07:27 PM
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Yeah, this is as bullshit of a post as we can possibly get on here... "Im a 9/10 chad, yet i cant pull any girl on tinder".... right, right
/r/TheRedPill15/09/21 07:04 PM
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Here we go. Yup, evil capitalism etc etc. Luckily in todays world, because aws exists, you need about 100 bucks to get a production level server for your site. You can use the infrastructure to only pay when people call your api's or visit your site stored on s3. And yeah, 250k to hundreds of billions of dollars. You dont need that much to get wealthy. Stop being a bitch
/r/TheRedPill15/09/21 06:22 PM
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This is false. I dont think you understand how OLD algo's work. The newb boost on hinge specifically will last anywhere between 2 days and 2 weeks. Your decline is too inline with your elo score falling. Hinge has by far the harshest elo score and a substantially smaller user base than tinder, bumble or pof (still popular among the plus 30 crowd) Further, we have data point after data point suggesting that at most, anything you write in your bio, either positive or negative, contributes to a max…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/21 06:07 PM
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This is highly believable. 120k a year was average wage where I used to live. If you live inside of one of the 10 large metros in the US, 100k is fairly average. If you live in rural Mississippi, then I would assume 30k is avg
/r/TheRedPill15/09/21 05:44 PM
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Software is high paying in the sense that there will be virtually unlimited demand for the foreseeable future (At least 20 years, likely far beyond that). The barrier to entry is that you have to be somewhat smart to last, so half the population is already out. To be good, you need a roughly 118 and above IQ (from wonderlic data... they have quasi iq scores on all professions)... so you roughly need to be smarter than 85% of the population. With that being said, modern tools have dumbed it down …
/r/TheRedPill15/09/21 05:27 PM
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Yeah, he can come off as a douce, but when he talks, youre like... "nah, this guy was a legit loser pre 25/26... really turned his life around"
/r/TheRedPill15/09/21 03:19 PM
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Yeah, I have a feeling that OP is a little bit delusional about what is actually going on here
/r/TheRedPill15/09/21 02:53 PM
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This sub isnt for this. If we had legit data on the users of this sub, Id assume most of us are making over 100k a year, and if not, those people are under 25/30. Many of us find the red pill because we realize that the software/engineering/manager/finance/lawyer/etc job isnt getting us as much sexual success as we thought it would. From the data we have on wages, this guy is a massive, massive anomaly. Almost no one over 25 is making min wage, regardless of what the media pushes. Min wage is fo…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/21 02:49 PM
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communities.win, red pill external forum
/r/MensRights14/09/21 09:15 PM
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lol at the sex strike. The women who want the sex strike are the hardcore feminists who slut themselves around on tinder. OH NO. WHAT WILL WE DO WITHOUT BELOW AVERAGE LOOKING BROADS WHORING THEMSELVES OUT!! THE HORROR!! If youre a chick in a relationship, who only sleeps with your boyfriend, youd be sane enough to realize how fucking stupid it would be to withhold sex from someone you like/love
/r/MensRights14/09/21 05:36 PM
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Yeah, you should listen to his podcasts with mpmd. They are a wealth of info, not just from dating women, but business too. The biggest wow factor was chris was basically 0 net worth at 30 before creating GLL. At GLL's peak, he was pulling in 80k, 80 fucking k, a month, solely from affiliate sales
/r/TheRedPill14/09/21 03:18 PM
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GLL is filled with legit pick up gurus. They dont really advertise (except this guy), but they have the most legitimate and realistic advice. I remember chris talking about how sleeping with a girl 1 our of every 3 nights out is basically peak pick up status. Most puas arent that honest. 1 out of 3 nights actually seems realistic after a year or so of doing it. Every night? Please
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 09:57 PM
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Very true
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 08:46 PM
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Very very true for guys who truly cant get laid here.... its a small minority, but they do exist
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 07:43 PM
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Indirect if its your regular gym, direct if its a gym you dont normally go to or not your regular time. You can also direct approach at regular times, but it needs to be limited to like 3 times a month at most
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 07:41 PM
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Cold approach Vs Tinder is always interesting - As an average looking guy, the rule is as follows -> If you solely care about just getting laid with minimal effort and you dont care about the quality of women, imo, you cant beat online dating platforms. This isnt just tinder. The hottest girl I ever went on a date with was from POF of all places, and it was last year. She was 26 too, so its not like it was some post wall hot chick. It was incredibly random. Ive also matched with an NBA dancer an…
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 07:15 PM
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15/m/oregon
/r/MensRights13/09/21 07:07 PM
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where r u located?
/r/MensRights13/09/21 06:38 PM
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you wanna hook up? I have a thing for communist men ;)
/r/MensRights13/09/21 06:29 PM
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lol dog, idk what country youre in, but if youre talking about the US, this is borderline delusional thought
/r/MensRights13/09/21 06:11 PM
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No, he clarified and said its a university with 30k students. If it was a high school, yes, day gaming is fucking stupid. Large university thats basically a small city -> optimal day game scenario imo As for going to a bar, the "metoo" shit on campus is almost entirely from house parties and bars. You occasionally have the professor who holds a grade or review over a student/grad student, but the vast majority of cases are he said she said house party/bar hookups where the woman claims "I was dr…
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 06:10 PM
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Have you ever been to a large university like he's describing? You literally dont know any of your classmates. Its as anonymous as a city, and filled with young single women. Him going to the bar on campus is not any different then day time approaching. They are still students there. And he's more likely to get me too'd at a bar/party where alcohol is involved
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 04:38 PM
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dude, the vast majority of women are socialist. Im not advocating the removal of voting rights for women in any way, but did you notice the trend towards heavy socialism that immediately started when women began to vote? It was as natural of an experiment as you could possibly have. Men favor x system, women favor y system. To say women favor capitalism is asinine. Feminists literally chant "Smash the patriarchy" - the patriarchy is a direct reference to capitalism They would reject capitalist p…
/r/MensRights13/09/21 04:33 PM
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The bans are complex. From what Ive experimented with, photo recognition bans are not completely in play. Meaning that they wont ban you immediately for just using the same photos. A few women have to report you (They will, its bumble, filled with an army of blue hairs), then photos may be stored on previously banned accounts. I know this because Ive used the same exact photos and got banned immediately, while other times the account lasted a full month. There is no rhyme or reason for the bans.…
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 04:10 PM
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No shit sherlock - look at rome or any other heavily feminized civilization. The reason that the other men have to pay is because its technically impossible for them not to with that skewed of a distribution
/r/MensRights13/09/21 04:05 PM
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This is such inaccurate advice
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 04:03 PM
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This is highly variable.... not every college is "state U." Half the colleges in DC blend completely with the city. And no one gets "metoo'd" from day game. Please dog, its just an excuse not to do it. Show me one guy, any guy, who got me too'd from day game
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 04:02 PM
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There are reasons they cant do this. A. Catfishing - I can go to anyone's insta, steal their pics, and they'd be banned. B. Anyone can cloak images, which makes that useless
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 04:00 PM
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That 1000 percent does not work anymore, specifically tinder and bumble. Badoo, POF and CMB do not penalize for account remakes. Hinge doesnt penalize, but it stores data by phone number and wont re show to a lot of accounts. Tinder and Bumble severely penalize and shadow ban for account remakes. You could do it back a couple years ago, but they now have device id bans. The device ID tracking has been known for at least a year and a half for bumble and tinder. Almost everyone reports disappearan…
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 03:43 AM
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lol... if you actually read, its not a how to. Its an example. But ok. Solving the other issues are in numerous other posts. Why repeat them? Search yourself "Its not red pill man" - Nah, it actually is. The red pill is seeing the world for what it actually is and then accomplishing your goals, whatever they may be, within that frame. The primary goal for most males is sex with females. Hence, this is very appropriate
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 03:06 AM
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Yeah this sounds like nihilistic depression more than anything else. Im not sure of any human who is like "yeah porn is great for me." You are literally alone wanking in a dark room because no woman wants to fuck you
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 02:26 AM
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Yeah, this is basically a small town environment, which is pretty useless when it comes to red pill ideas of "abundance." 100 percent social circle
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 02:23 AM
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It takes practice and youll need a general strategy. It sounds easy to "just start a conversation," but when push comes to shove, most guys pussy out with the common excuse "I dont know what to say/talk about." Day bang provides the single most useful conversational blueprint I have ever come across
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 02:22 AM
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ehh, it sounds pretty depressing. Its very difficult to live life without any companionship. If you did a root motivational analysis for a lot of what you said, I feel like women would be at the root for many. Why are you concerned about being ripped? For yourself? Please. Most guys, including myself, do it in large part to look better because we know it helps attract women. Why do you want money (career) if you are an introvert who can just live off of a guitar and internet connection? You have…
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 02:20 AM
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Thats the clarification we needed. This is an optimal cold approach environment. I generally dont recommend books, because people mentally masturbate over them and never take action. With that being said, "Day Bang" will teach you the optimal approach for women (and men to expand social circle, which is incredibly important in college) in this environment
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 02:17 AM
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Depends on "school" - I referred to my university, which was in a small city and had 70k students, as school. If thats the case, its the single most optimal environment for cold approach outside of living directly inside the top 30 metros in the US If its high school, you are correct. Id honestly tell him to wait until college, if he goes to a large one. If he goes to a small college, game will be similar to high school. Its 100 percent social circle and parties, cold approach would be useless i…
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 02:14 AM
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Hold on a second then. Define "school" - large university is a much different game than 300 student high school
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 02:12 AM
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At the end of the day, you just need to ignore it. Leftism is a collective sexual shit test to choose men for sex. Notice how prisoner's have a higher rate of fatherhood than the general population? That isnt a coincidence. That is women choosing men who break rules
/r/MensRights13/09/21 02:10 AM
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Communism is a sexual strategy. Why? Women want the sperm of the top 5% of men. Their endgame is to make that happen. Enslave 90 percent of the male population to pay for it. Its the only way it can happen. The lie is "everyone has equal outcomes." Yes, they want that economically. But they fail to see how that doesnt carry over into other domains. Sexual selection, Crime, social networks, dangerous work, educational outcomes etc... are all outcomes that currently are not in any way in favor of …
/r/MensRights13/09/21 02:06 AM
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lol you can do whatever you want. Not sure if this is a troll comment. If its not, aim lower. Start with just one. You wont stick to it if its too challenging. 5 is a lot for a newb
/r/TheRedPill13/09/21 02:00 AM
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And higher ed is where this will actually work. "Education" is as high as 90 percent women in some areas. Play the minority as a male card
/r/MensRights12/09/21 11:35 PM
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Depends on the company. You need to realize that insurance companies, banks, Higher ed, some hospitals etc, are too large too fail and will get bailed out if they do. Hence, they dont need to learn from their mistakes. If this was true libertarian capitalism, yes. But its not. So its yes and no. If I create a financial startup like robinhood, it will eventually become a quasi bank, or at least be protected because of their ties with banks. If I create doordash, Ill have no protection
/r/MensRights12/09/21 06:19 PM
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You already see this. But eventually they get eaten when they become large. Almost Every startup in America is majority male. Why? Because the big companies wont hire them. Then they become big, adopt the woke corporate ethic, rinse and repeat
/r/MensRights12/09/21 03:31 PM
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Haha... We know weve gone too far when europeans are like, "wait, how is this fucking legal." Its way worse than that my friend. Me and a female coworker had very similar resumes. Our universities were ranked very closely (both in the top 25 in the US)... I had a year more of experience... same position rank (fairly new graduates, so its not like we were directors)... etc. I had her beat in skill set. Ive created numerous apps and websites myself and thus had a skillset of someone 5 years my sen…
/r/MensRights12/09/21 03:19 PM
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lolol... Its a good start, but for real
/r/TheRedPill12/09/21 02:56 PM
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I have the opposite actually. I match with a lot of older women. But this may be a demographic thing. For example, if Im near a small town college, its just younger. However, when I lived in dc, which is loaded with unmarried 30-50 career women types, it was almost entirely older... these women would literally come to my apartment and fuck within 30 minutes. With that being said, dc and san fran have been entirely, entirely, overrun with post modernism. This is not the norm of the US, even in ot…
/r/TheRedPill12/09/21 02:37 PM
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You seem to massively miss the point. The people with this access is likely under 500 in the entire us. Even if they wanted to spy on everyone, they wouldnt have enough man power. When you give it to state and local governments and every single police force, we are now talking millions and millions of people who have access in the name of "safety"
/r/TheRedPill12/09/21 02:35 PM
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I would say its bullshit to remove as much as you guys do.... BUT if anyone in this sub actually wants this sub to stay alive for any decent amount of time longer, its the only way unfortunately. Especially with the mgtows, incels, and every other group on reddit thats been banned infiltrating any sub that they think is remotely similar to the ones that have been banned (hint: We like women mgtows, so please stop telling us to live life without them)
/r/TheRedPill11/09/21 01:39 AM
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I lived outside of dc for years. Those are the people. Essentially private business that has direct ties to govt. Its the reason northern va is home to the wealthiest counties in America
/r/TheRedPill09/09/21 09:19 PM
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Youre right man. I need a break. Honestly since lockdowns began Ive been becoming slightly more bitter every day. In large part because my internet use has skyrocketed. Its been taking a massive toll on my mental health. I think Im going to be deleting reddit today.
/r/MensRights07/09/21 11:09 PM
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Where did you meet her? If it was online, you have to have some texts
/r/MensRights07/09/21 08:03 PM
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This is true to an extent. Ive worked in finance for years. I consider all banks to be government entities at this point. They literally get injected with interest free money all of the time. Hard to go broke when the government says here's money you can loan for free. Pay us back in hyper-inflated dollars with no interest. The business's Im referring to are the ones not listed on the s&p 500. There are 32.5 million US business's. When I say most business owners lean conservative I mean them. Th…
/r/TheRedPill07/09/21 04:56 AM
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Haha - old angry divorced guy talking shit to young people.... even funnier than I thought. Mustve been raking in the dough with that 36k savings from your divorce. How pathetic
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 10:58 PM
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Ive watched the episode before.... yeah, they were future predictors lol
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 10:55 PM
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Haha dog... you keep showing how pathetic you are by continuing this convo. You have 57k karma and have been on reddit for 10 years. Ive literally used this site for 3 months. Its actually comical. You are the definition of basement dwelling incel. Would not be surprised in the slightest if you are a "gamer" and watch superhero movies too. Massive incel vibes
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 10:51 PM
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You are so dumb that you are actually proving my point. You have no idea what my actual identity is. Even if you were to post a guess on this site and somehow got it accurate, you wouldnt be able to tell. Digital footprint is not identification. I have about 5 other usernames for anonymous forums. Wow, you found the one on goodlooking loser. Ya know, the same exact content that I post on the red pill for the most part. Clicking on my profile, youd get the same results. And lol... yes, mock me fo…
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 10:40 PM
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Youre missing the key point here though. There is still a lot of choice, even if its somewhat limited. For example, free speech has limitations. Ie I cant legally tell a bunch of people directly to go and hurt you. I cant legally publish absolutely false claims about you. There are legal limitations to all things. However, speech is still mostly free from a federal standpoint
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 09:40 PM
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You can easily own and carry a multitude of rifles and handguns throughout the south and midwest. Relative to every other first world county, we are very lenient. With that being said, youre right, you cant carry guns in inner city nyc. But if that matters to you, move 10 min outside Dallas, Miami, Phoenix etc. Point is, you have a choice
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 08:17 PM
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For the most part they actually do. There are zero places that have outright gun bans. If that is truly a concern to you, you can move to one of the +25 states, primarily in the south and midwest, with extremely lenient gun laws. Social sites exist that are entirely free speech platforms. Gab, Parler etc. You can go there if reddit bothers you. I can go on, but the point is, if one state goes against your way of living, or one site does, you can just go to another. If it becomes federally mandat…
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 07:44 PM
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I agree, but youre failing to see the large scale repercussions. This is considered a social platform. Linkedin is considered a social platform. Tinder is considered a social platform. Youtube is considered a social platform. None of these are your classic social media sites, but are incredibly useful in other domains of life (Idea creation/debate/thought development, Work, dating, learning). For a site like this, the red pill has helped a lot of men in living. It would cease to exist overnight.…
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 07:32 PM
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lol, this guy is such a pussy Also, avoid using the pejorative of "normie" you're better than that. Did he trigger you??
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 06:33 PM
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You do realize the left makes up stories all the time too. Mainstream left. Just this week: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/whatever-happened-to-the-journalistic-b-s-detector/ A BS ivermectin story, spread by everyone in the mainstream left. Zero repercussions for that. Twitter did not label a single rolling stone tweet misleading, or anyone who commented about this story, as misleading. Hunter biden laptop: True story, yet twitter bans the NYPost. Do you see how the bans seem to go in one…
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 06:32 PM
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Hence centralized Id's. Its the only way a system like this is plausible. Thats what a social security number is genius. Add in your address, name and drivers license. Primary key for db: {SS number}-{state issued id/license number}-{state}-{address}-{Full Name}. That is unique enough to not have collisions and would be the go to form of centralized identification in the US and most of Europe Like I mentioned, its highly unlikely to happen due to the bill of rights, the way the house and senate …
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 06:24 PM
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https://sandlab.cs.uchicago.edu/fawkes/ Read and download the software
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 04:23 PM
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If the left were loud about any of the above issues, ever defended a false sexual allegation, ever once said "hey maybe its a problem that only 35% of the college population is men and its rapidly falling," maybe they'd have credibility. But they dont. And Suppression of mens rights is just one thing. Being politically correct for everything has underlying motivations for narrative control. Cancel culture is predominantly a left wing cause (Ie what this post was about)
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 04:18 PM
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They have gone full blown commie. Not surprised this is coupled with id laws. No requirement for any legitimate warrant to take over any internet account on the premise that it makes you safe. Holy shit. How idiotic can these people be A DATA DISRUPTION WARRANT enables the agencies to “add, copy, delete or alter” data on devices. And while it’s called a warrant, there is an emergency authorisation process for cases when it is “not practicable” to get a warrant. So a data disruption “warrant” can…
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 04:11 PM
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False. These bans are not government enforced through centralized identification processes. The centralized bans are analogous to banning someone from going outside and talking to their neighbors
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 04:07 PM
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Yes, and these US based companies are not lobbying for anything remotely like this in the US. Further, your statement has nothing to do with what I said. Strawman after strawman
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 04:05 PM
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Im not sure about canada or the UK, but definitely NZ. The difference is that Canada and the UK could lose a large amount of citizens and workers to nearby countries if they enact laws like this. NZ is an island like Aus
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 04:04 PM
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The modern left tries to severely repress manhood. While there are some legitimate "meToo" cases, most end up being bullshit. It is a movement for women to control the entire sexual marketplace (which is directly antithetical to the red pill) The left is also completely fine with men earning degrees at a significantly lower rate than women. Men dying more in every domain of work. Men working longer hours. Men being homeless at an incredibly high rate. Men getting screwed in divorce court. Turnin…
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 04:02 PM
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I think Its getting downvoted because youre underestimating the need to make use of the internet to survive today. Forget about the primary social apps you just mentioned. Linkedin is a social app for jobs. Tinder for dating. Meetup for group activities. Google altering all your search results in an even more negative way. Further, alot of people have business's. Imagine being blocked from every search result, every ad, every possible place where your business could appear online. It would bankr…
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 07:57 AM
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You are too stupid to argue with. You contradict yourself with your first statement. Everyone is already meeting online via tinder. The old way of meeting people face to face will, most likely, always be there. Both cant simultaneously exist. From the data we have, roughly 30-40% of relationships start in online domains. Online isnt just OLD you fucking idiot. 10-20% of that number comes from instagram, facebook, meetup, tik tok etc. If I message someone in a facebook group to meet up, or dm a g…
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 07:47 AM
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I doubt it will happen in the US for a variety of reasons. You would have to pass it federally - it requires 60 votes and there is no way that would conceivably happen. Secondly, the supreme court would shut it down as violations of the first and fourth amendments, specifically the fourth. The reason would be that the purpose of the law would be for law enforcement to monitor citizens, and this would violate unreasonable search and seizure. If it does inevitably happen, it will be in 50 plus yea…
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 06:32 AM
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Buddy, by the time it does happen, half your dates will be coming from meeting in an online venue. OLD, Facebook, Insta, Tik tok etc. So even if that is your only concern, you saying something on here that goes against the narrative, and then getting kicked off of every platform, would disable you from getting laid. Forget about every other consequence besides that. If thats youre only concern, there is a very good chance that your government overlords will dictate whether or not you can fuck an…
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 06:21 AM
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Haha... Ladies and gents, here were see the authoritarian mind at work. The fact that you see this post as a defense of trump is a testament to how delusional you are
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 05:03 AM
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Very true. Highly, highly unlikely that anything happens like this America. The way the system is set up is that you have to have very large social agreement to pass anything major like this from a federal level (and hence why nothing gets changed federally). It just wont happen here anytime soon. But still, the fact that a first world country is putting up with this is frightening
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 04:42 AM
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Yes, with no centralized id. State issued driver's license? Sure. Social security number? Pushing it a little too far imo. Centralized govt database tracking every single thing you do on the internet for private companies, and state and local governments to have complete access to? Ill pass
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 04:36 AM
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Centrally issued govt id's literally could not exist in a true libertarian society. They are antithetical to one another
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 03:51 AM
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Yes, if you read the article, this is centralized government identification being mandated for use of the internet. In a truly libertarian society, government identifications wouldnt exist because governments wouldnt exist
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 03:51 AM
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Exactly, we live in anything but a libertarian society
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 03:50 AM
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That is blatantly wrong. This is entirely state mandated. Many business's would have remained open. Most business owners lean conservative even in very liberal areas for obvious reasons. Hard to run a business when you get fined 10k a day or have the police lock down your place of business for "violating" their dictatorial mandates
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 03:49 AM
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Thanks... and yeah. They abused something as simple as the patriot act. Thats just the NSA. They hire maybe 100-500 people in the country who have access to those surveillance systems. These systems would be given to every tech company and every state and local government authority. If you considered the patriot act to be a punch in the gut, this would be a nuclear bomb directly hitting your city. Amazing how every citizen in Australia is not up in arms about this
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 02:49 AM
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Patrice was a legend. Possibly the most red pilled main stream person of all time. Before any of the insanity hit too. When you watch his stuff, you realize how much of a social genius this guy was. His analysis on men and women was truly incredible. We fortunately have the internet to answer all questions. This guy just watched and came up with these conclusions himself
/r/TheRedPill06/09/21 02:22 AM
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In other news, Bumble has officially created a blacklist. I was openly conservative in the dc area for some time. Account would constantly get banned for it, but Id recreate no problems. For the past month, Ive attempted to recreate an account. 4 times. Banned within an hour of making it each time. Tinder and hinge still work fine, but its disappointing as bumble used to get me the most amount of matches. Seems that they are running all photos through photo recognition on account creation and ba…
/r/TheRedPill05/09/21 05:53 PM
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Nah dude, I can give whatever fucking opinion I want to
/r/TheRedPill04/09/21 07:30 PM
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This is provably false. If the insane trans gender movement has given us one thing, it is that every woman that transitions to a man via hormones talks about how their sex drive increases ten fold. Further, we know that medications that lower testosterone and raise estrogen for men will in many cases completely destroy the male libido. Further, the nofap movement is a bunch of men who cant control jerking off because they are so horny 24/7. Further, you talk about body counts. If men could have …
/r/TheRedPill04/09/21 06:34 PM
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UPDATE: HOLY SHIT https://twitter.com/Alpha\_Mind7/status/1433385841179643910 The Tweet with the news Recording. The Australian federal government is planning to de-anonymize the internet to introduce a social credit system to combat "online abuse" - police will have access to individuals' social media accounts, which will be linked to people's passports. It has happened. I didnt even believe it can happen fully, but credit to people on here that said it would. You were called conspiracy theoris…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/21 02:00 AM
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My Predictions for 2021: Tinder will require you upload vaccine proof to us it. A new list of words and ideas will be hotly debated as hate speech as the social networks solidify the old list (deadnaming, the f word (not fuck), election fraud, etc) Biden will start a war in 1st quarter. A new strain of Covid ignites rolling lockdowns, intro the new normal with a warning like smoky the bear. "Today is YELLOW, wear your masks and avoid Tier 2 businesses" ( Edit 12/30: I'm not saying I'm magic but …
/r/TheRedPill02/09/21 04:25 AM
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Because your worldview is incorrect. What you stated isnt accurrate. Being an Alpha Male means you sit at or near the top of one or more dominance hierarchy. "Dominance" Linguistically overloads your brain into thinking that you are physically competing with other males. That isnt true. In some circumstances yes. In many, its not. For example, lets take entrepreneur. They are competitive, but they also have to be liked and people have to want to "play" in their game. If I have a great product an…
/r/TheRedPill01/09/21 09:13 PM
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In all seriousness, why not just masturbate. I think a lot of men, definitely myself, get off on sex because the woman wants to fucks us. A prostitute just feels like porn. I can understand a guy over 60 doing this, but lets be honest here. Pre 60, you can still fuck relatively decent looking women. Becoming attractive to women is very important because it means youre attractive to everyone. That is a major part of self improvement.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/21 10:02 PM
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Look at a guy like mat fraser. He's 5'5 and 200 lbs. Has visible abs. He may use peds, but peds that crossfitters use are more in line with what cyclists use as being big and bulky is a hinderance in the sport. They mainly use endurance peds (increase red blood cells). The average top 1k crossfitter is 5'9, 195 lbs. Almost all have visible abs. They have above average genetics, but not elite. Elite are in the nfl, mlb etc. 200 lbs over 6ft is very easy to attain
/r/TheRedPill31/08/21 08:07 PM
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Not true... Im 5'10 and 200 with the only supplement being creatine. My dad and grandpa were also naturally jacked, no weight lifting. At 6'1, you can easily have abs (assuming 10 inches per pound, Id be about 230 at 6'1). Its very possible if you have great genetics. You are also taking the upper end of what I put. The upper end is only for guys who have bodies that were meant to put on muscle. Even if this guy has shit genes, 200 is a very easy weight to attain if he's actually 6'1
/r/TheRedPill31/08/21 05:54 PM
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Haha basically blue haired feminists
/r/TheRedPill30/08/21 05:38 AM
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We can add those here too... give us some green flags
/r/TheRedPill30/08/21 03:24 AM
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Ehh.. this is super rare. They may, may, admit this when they are young, 18-23 range. By 24, all women realize that being a whore is frowned upon no matter how hard core their feminist beliefs are. Some will then go all in on the feminist narrative (become members of the blue haired brigade), while others pull the “I’m over the party stage”
/r/TheRedPill30/08/21 01:19 AM
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Yeah... it’s what makes women after 30 so dangerous. Everyone claims that they “hit the wall” physically. Some definitely do, but many remain hot. The problem though is that you have no idea of their intentions. Their clock is ticking, chad is no longer interested (they’re a 7/8 instead of the 9/10 they used to be), so you have to cipher out what the hell is actually going on
/r/TheRedPill29/08/21 11:32 PM
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Likely my biggest mistake throughout college. You want to be “the frat guy” or “the athlete” or “the nerd.” All beat 0 identity. I’ve gone all in on being a fitness buff post college and it helps with identity. It’s a common one, but it’s better than nothing. What you do for work can be part of your identity (please don’t make it your full identity though). And partying could be one too. Jacked party guy who is smart and wealthy is an optimal identity to have. From there, attempt to have 2 fring…
/r/TheRedPill29/08/21 09:19 PM
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Will be the next book I read
/r/TheRedPill29/08/21 08:58 PM
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I’ll be honest with you. Post 25, your options of getting laid are as follows: online dating, night game, day game, social circle. The largest quantity by far is night game and online dating. Day game can work, but you have to grow a pair of balls. You need to start out by just talking to people for a month or two. You aren’t going to magically be able to talk to women without baby steps in day game. What I mean is this. Say you go to the gym. For a month, you’re going to ask either a guy or gir…
/r/TheRedPill29/08/21 08:57 PM
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Very true. I lived in the dc area for a while. The women were literally everywhere. I’ve never dated so many different women in my life, but they were all trash
/r/TheRedPill29/08/21 08:27 PM
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Its complicated. I’m not saying you’re wrong, I just disagree. This isn’t a cut and dry situation where it’s one size fits all. I’d personally avoid past sluts. But I can understand why some people don’t care
/r/TheRedPill29/08/21 08:04 PM
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We are talking LTR here only. You being satisfied in bed is a poor reason to engage in an LTR
/r/TheRedPill29/08/21 07:50 PM
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There is a reason every religion worships the female virgin and the male savior. Female - born with very high value and it’s hers to lose. Male - born with no value but has an infinite amount he can attain in his lifetime. There are no 50 year old female princesses. We call them annoying broads on antidepressants. There are loads of men at 40-70 who everyone looks up to because the attained some value throughout their lives
/r/TheRedPill27/08/21 04:26 AM
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The red pill does not tell us how to act. That is why there are sects built off the red pill (pua, Jordan Peterson followers, mgtow, etc) while many of of us choose our own way. The incorrect way of thinking I see on here a lot is “this is how red pill people live..” and then the user proceeds to give an example on how they were “alpha” The red pill doesn’t do that. For example, the red pill just states that women fuck winners of dominance hierarchies. Being red pilled is knowing that. Being blu…
/r/TheRedPill26/08/21 05:26 AM
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And just to clarify, I mean other women, not her. She needs to know that you have options and will use them if necessary. Make it known
/r/TheRedPill25/08/21 05:06 AM
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People are saying lightly agree and amplify. Nope. Wrong. You do that with short term or new relationships. Not LTR. Your frame here is actually the something like the following: "You pull this shit again and we are done. I voluntarily dont hang out with other women even though I can. You can do the same by not voluntarily hanging out with other men." With that being said, that only works if she knows you can fuck. You cant assert your frame like this if you actually have no negotiating power an…
/r/TheRedPill25/08/21 04:27 AM
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How is this against my theory?... edit my bad... misread
/r/TheRedPill22/08/21 05:01 PM
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This isn’t wrong. It’s literally how good looking loser preaches on how he and hundreds of others eventually had success with women. It’s not so much “work your way up.” But it’s, a 6 is better than no pussy. You’ll gain sexual experience, be less resentful, etc. with that being said, you should still try to get with women you’re attracted to
/r/TheRedPill20/08/21 08:56 PM
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You’ve literally become an ideologue, which is unhealthy. “All women are like this” - it’s false Same as all men are like this Becoming red pilled just means that you know patterns that exist in nature and can turn the probabilities of bad things happening in your favor If you’re in an LTR, do not allow your girlfriend to spend time with guy friends without you under any circumstances You can be in love, but there is no “one” Woman can want an alpha, but the fact that there worth is inverse to g…
/r/TheRedPill20/08/21 08:47 PM
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It is still a state that requires 2 party consent
/r/TheRedPill20/08/21 04:06 AM
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Not high profile cases like this. Further, he said she said will destroy your reputation without evidence (ie at a job, friend group etc) You are correct though that it is better to say nothing in many cases
/r/TheRedPill20/08/21 04:05 AM
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Lol 😂... 50 people from dating apps isn’t a lot my friend. That’s 15-20 a year over a 3 year span. So bitter and angry lol. Edit: omg haha 😂😂 you act like you hate women, but have posts stating “how do I stop being so nervous around attractive women.” - but yeah, legal system and stuff and something... nothing to do with your inability to get laid Seriously bro... you may need help. You can dm me for actual advice, but stop being so damn bitter
/r/TheRedPill19/08/21 02:08 AM
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oh gotcha... yeah... but its expected... this sub was good in the past, only a matter of time before the infiltration becomes too much and this gets banned too
/r/TheRedPill18/08/21 05:35 PM
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Haha not mgtow in the slightest my man
/r/TheRedPill18/08/21 05:28 PM
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Then what is specifically ugly about you. Ugly generally means you have deformities or substandard traits. If it’s something like bone structure in the nose, that’s surgery.... if it’s something like skin, that’s just skin care... You claim to be ugly yet won’t give any bad traits about yourself
/r/TheRedPill18/08/21 03:49 PM
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Yeah... you can still do it, but I’m just saying, if a guy works 9-5, goes to the gym after work, eats dinner and has 4-5 hours left over, he literally can’t do day game at least 4 days a week (we’ll assume Friday is a light day)... night game is just easier for most guys logistically speaking. And weekend day festival/activities/concerts are functionally equivalent to going to bars... he’s just spouting nonsense
/r/TheRedPill18/08/21 06:20 AM
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I genuinely don’t think you understand how social apps work. You should look up the Pareto distribution. And you sound like someone who never interacts with women. Of the 50 plus women I’ve met in person from online dating, 0 have accused me of harassment. Of every women I’ve met in a bar, 0. At work, none, but that’s because I kept my distance. Most aren’t bad people
/r/TheRedPill18/08/21 06:09 AM
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He literally said don’t meet women at bars (night game) or online. That is at least 50 percent of where adults meet women. Most of us don’t have time to day game during an average weekday or feel like wasting a Saturday picking up women at random malls
/r/TheRedPill18/08/21 05:38 AM
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lol nah bruh... take this mgtow shit elsewhere. The vast majority of women Ive dealt with made my life better. Shit men exist too. This is protecting yourself against the small subset of shitty women that do exist
/r/TheRedPill18/08/21 05:01 AM
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2 out of maybe 5000-15000 plus people Ive interacted with on a semi regular basis is not a lot (high school, college, large work organizations etc... one was just an acquaintance too... neither were rape accusations, just the classic "harassment")
/r/TheRedPill18/08/21 04:59 AM
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Nah... they are pretty rare... most guys I know have never been accused of rape/harassment etc... the maybe two guys I can recall at the moment were bogus (at work and the other was a reputation thing and not so much of a legal matter). That being said, you never know when the mob will come for you, so you need to be prepared
/r/TheRedPill18/08/21 04:37 AM
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I do believe it’s legal in most states. Shockingly not California /s
/r/TheRedPill18/08/21 04:35 AM
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Im done arguing because youre too stupid to realize what I am saying. There will literally never be a scenario where two guys are identical in every way except height. You cant get that through your head. It is pointless mental masturbation. Its like me saying two women are identical expect girl A has a slightly nicer ass. This would never happen in reality because no two girls are identical, so the argument is futile
/r/TheRedPill18/08/21 04:17 AM
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I agree that its rough. Ive had women in the past ask me to "pretend rape" them. I never did it because A. I dont actually like that rough of sex and B. The above reason. I assume some guys on here are into bdsm, where things can get carried away even if consensual. If thats their case, this could be them
/r/TheRedPill18/08/21 04:14 AM
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Yeah this is an incredibly dumb thought exercise from this guy as I learned below lol.. I feel like Im talking to an angry 13 year old
/r/TheRedPill18/08/21 04:04 AM
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You are overvaluing physical appearance way too much. It does not matter to the extent you are giving it. Yeah, if they are identical people and height was the only difference, sure. That’s equivalent to me saying that Sam and sally are the same person, but Sam has more money. Who would you date? Obviously Sam, but it’s an irrelevant question because guys to value money nearly as much as women do in a sexual relationship. You can’t change your argument after someone disproves your point. It is l…
/r/TheRedPill18/08/21 04:00 AM
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Maybe you are. If you honestly are that unattractive, why not change yourself? Jaw, nose and chin make up a large portion of your face. Surgeries with insanely high success rates exist for all of them. If your teeth such, get braces, veneers, dental work etc. If you have vision problems, lasik. If you have no hair, transplant. If your skin sucks, dm me for a solid skin routine or go see a dermatologist. If youre fat, get skinny. If you have no muscle, lift, take hgh or test, eat more. If you can…
/r/TheRedPill18/08/21 03:54 AM
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Youre missing the point entirely. He's not attractive. Hes like a 4 or 5 on a real scale. But a guy who is a 7 or 8 isnt going to have that much on him. And he can become more attractive than the 7 or 8 via grooming (beard could cover the bad jaw), style and working out
/r/TheRedPill18/08/21 03:42 AM
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I think your making a false premise here. Women dont run to almost any guy. Even if youre 6'3". It doesnt matter that much. She wont run to you. A lot of pussies are over 6 feet and dont get laid because they are pussies. If youre talking raw physical attraction (which matters, but not to the extent youre making out to be), then it comes down to visible strength and athleticism, Being big (both height and muscles), and having good facial aesthetics. Balding isnt that big of a deal. If you have a…
/r/TheRedPill18/08/21 03:31 AM
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The red pill is more for the college and up crowd tbh... I would say it’s primary target is 24-45. Some 18-24 year olds would benefit too from optimizing college lifestyle. But 16 is pretty young to be reading into this stuff
/r/TheRedPill17/08/21 07:48 PM
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So here’s the thing. You are discounting Pareto like distributions when it comes to this. Look at Greg doucettes Richter scale of attraction. It’s basically the following. A somewhat ugly guy and above average looking guy are pretty similar to most women. However, an absolute dime of a guy is not. So he does have a point. The guy in the photo is not facially attractive. Go to Reddit true rate me if you want to see how attractive you actually are. This guy would fall below average. He has subopti…
/r/TheRedPill17/08/21 03:42 PM
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Yeah, which is why a lot of guys on here should take the jordan peterson approach to life. A lot guys become super black pilled because they'll look at an nba star or actor and compare themselves to those guys. Thats not useful The red pilled way of living is compare yourself this week to who you were last week, and get slightly better every week. In some aspect. Lifitng is the most obvious one. But it could be anything. Maybe going out to bars more frequently, approaching women, saving money, g…
/r/TheRedPill17/08/21 04:30 AM
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Possibly... Ive never read to into the black pill too too much, but I thought it had to do more with genetics playing into a big factor in success. Like dont get me wrong, I do lift. But my dad was basically chad incarnate. The only thing he didnt have was height (he was pretty short, 5'5 - Im 5'11 and late 20s btw), but he had model like facial bone structure and insanely muscular physique. Like didnt lift weights and was jacked up until 50 (like 6 pack abs not working out and drinking beer all…
/r/TheRedPill17/08/21 04:19 AM
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Yeah Ive noticed changes.... I dont go out to bars enough to keep a tab, especially the past year and a half (where I lived for most of the rona was lockdown central), but dating app growth has been exponential. The only difference from the past (lets say 4 years ago) is that I have a great beard and being substantially more muscular (the beard is recent and only in 1 of my 4 pics). But the shirtless beach picture and a second beach picture with a tanktop borderline flexing grew my matches from …
/r/TheRedPill17/08/21 03:40 AM
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Yeah... it’s really important to differentiate “I lift” with a guy who benches 225, squats 300 and deadlifts 400 with a guy like myself who is pulling 550, squatting 450 and benching 350 at about 195 lbs. There is a major difference. Women on dating apps routinely ask me if I do fitness modeling. My friend joke around that I use steroids. My grandma was literally concerned that I was taking drugs for lifting weights That’s what we mean when we say “in shape.” Not “I went to the gym for a year an…
/r/TheRedPill16/08/21 11:22 PM
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Exactly this... this guy doesn’t seem to understand how easy it is to match people with pictures... I had a coworker read one of my Reddit posts one time, telling me I should read it.... Little did he know that I was the fucking author of it... if I posted a pic, I would’ve been a known entity at work
/r/TheRedPill16/08/21 08:55 PM
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I do this. I have naturally high testosterone though, so I almost always have visible abs. It’s very slow. But it amounts to something like 5 lbs a year of bodyweight.... has consistently happened for 4 straight years with no loss in muscle definition (still 6 pack, can hit about 30 pull-ups right now, which is actually more than when I was 20 pounds lighter, squat, deadlift, bench, shoulder press all up. The only significant decrease was 1 mile run (like 45 seconds slower than 20 lbs ago) mile …
/r/TheRedPill16/08/21 08:26 PM
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Lol 😂 yup... I have a shit body... if you really want to find me, look up the CrossFit open results. I’m in the top 1000. You can see my ripped body on there... Instagram is my name... good luck finding me
/r/TheRedPill16/08/21 08:22 PM
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Haha... this guy has obviously never stepped foot on wall street, federal govt contracting or big tech... again, you are some random basement dweller. What would I gain from showing you my identity besides winning a futile argument with you?
/r/TheRedPill16/08/21 08:07 PM
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Lol 😂 nah bruh. I’d rather keep my job than prove to some basement dweller that I’m ripped
/r/TheRedPill16/08/21 07:55 PM
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You literally said “notable red pillers.” There are about 10 big time pua guys that are well known. Maybe. Neil Strauss, mpmd, good looking loser crew, mark manson. You have other guys from the Neil Strauss era, but about half are phony businessmen. So just from the above, 50 percent are ripped. Please tell me others, outside of superstar athletes, musicians and entrepreneurs, who most of us have 0 chance of being Further, every scientific study we have says the following: for physical attractiv…
/r/TheRedPill16/08/21 07:47 PM
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Lol 😂 with this guy again. More plates more dates and good looking loser (Chris and Scotty) are borderline legends in pick up who all believe in being ripped (all are steroidal and jacked) No one posts pics because this is an anonymous forum where a lot of us work in left leaning organizations where posting our identity on here is grounds for firing. If you’re entirely self employed, Good for you. Most of us aren’t. And even if we are, we do business with left leaning entities
/r/TheRedPill16/08/21 07:40 PM
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You are genuinely socially retarded. Have a good day
/r/TheRedPill16/08/21 06:35 PM
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Ummm yes... you are a social animal so how other perceive you matters. What do you think “alpha” Refers to? It’s your relation to other members of your social group. Hence, their opinion of you matters
/r/TheRedPill16/08/21 06:04 PM
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“Normie” guy is back. This is why people hate the red pill. Most of us are pretty normal, but then you have gayLUbeOil and yourself who make us look autistic
/r/TheRedPill16/08/21 05:59 PM
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You sound like a delusional drugged conspiracy theorist. “You shouldn’t strive to have wives via gunpoint.” Your response: “Do yOu wOrK fOR CnN?!?!”
/r/TheRedPill16/08/21 05:58 PM
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You are literally bitching about the west persuading men to be feminine and then saying: “see, we should act more like the taliban and be alpha” - truly pathetic
/r/TheRedPill16/08/21 05:56 PM
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Having wives via gunpoint is not something I aspire to have. Having women actually desire you is the goal of the red pill. Not forced arranged marriages fuck face
/r/TheRedPill16/08/21 05:50 PM
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Because this is not red pill material at all. Nothing is useful here for guys to develop socially, sexually, economically, etc. Nor is it useful as an anecdote or warning. It’s just bitching and complaining
/r/TheRedPill16/08/21 05:43 PM
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I don’t think geopolitics has anything to do with the red pill, especially this example. Who the fuck would want to live in a country like Afghanistan? Even though feminism is arguably destroying the west slowly, to basically make the case that the Middle East is a better place to live than the US (or literally any other country besides parts of central and Northern Africa) is nonsense. No one views the Middle East as an example of “patriarchy” when discussing feminism. They use things like capi…
/r/TheRedPill16/08/21 05:30 PM
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You should read up on monkeys and the term. It’s not what you think. The “I’m alpha!” Types of monkeys are literally assassinated by other monkeys almost every time they take control of the tribe. A “wus” as in they avoid fighting other monkeys unless absolutely necessary? Wrong again. These are the longest lasting and most successful leaders. They can fight, they just choose not to You sound like a late teen virgin. Good luck in life bud
/r/TheRedPill16/08/21 05:23 PM
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It’s not mental at all. The term literally comes from monkeys who are selected to lead tribes by other monkeys to lead tribes (or by force, but they tend to be take out quickly if achieved that way), and are thus given preferential status in mating, food, decisions etc
/r/TheRedPill16/08/21 05:19 PM
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This is actually very important. Incredibly underrated. Even if a woman is a whore, they do t want to be seen as whores. If people know they keep meeting guys online, she’s seen as a whore
/r/TheRedPill15/08/21 09:06 PM
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Your thinking is flawed. Alphas get screwed all of the time due to the culture we are in. Most recent high profile example. PJ Washington and Brittany Renner. By all intents and purposes, PJ Washington is an alpha. He was fucking an Instagram model who has possibly the nicest ass on the planet, makes millions a year as an nba star, athletic, top .1 percent of height, etc. Point being, the guy could easily get laid. However, he still got fucked. Renner used him for financial gain and now a huge p…
/r/TheRedPill15/08/21 12:17 AM
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My sex life change drastically after I got ripped. I joke and say it’s the actual reason why I’m a gym rat. It’s a subconscious motivation. With that being said, Being fat with muscle or steroidal looking isn’t attractive. You want to look like an elite crossfitter/ NFL running back/wideout. You don’t want to look like a fat powerlifter. For example: rich froning: hot. A guy like mark henry (who is stronger than 99.9 percent of humans) not hot due to how fat he is
/r/TheRedPill14/08/21 05:26 PM
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Black pill is useful in a round about way. It can give us group generalizations. Women like tall guys. Women like jaw lines. Women like money. Women like beards. Women like muscles. Most become bitter at this. You shouldn’t. You make a list of all your negative traits. Then you ask yourself 2 things. 1. Can I fix this? 2. If I can’t, how can I change my attitude towards it. The great thing about living in today’s day and age is that we can change almost everything. There are some things we can’t…
/r/TheRedPill14/08/21 05:18 PM
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Yes dumbass, that is how you say something is conclusively known. It hasnt been replicated with the same or similar results therefore it is not valid
/r/TheRedPill13/08/21 10:58 PM
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I dont think you understand how science works. If the study cant be replicated, its invalid, regardless of whether or not it was published. Most studies are garbage and cant be replicated. You are just an idiot and cant comprehend that
/r/TheRedPill13/08/21 10:11 PM
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It is mostly copout behavior. Even when I go out to bars, where its the most socially acceptable place to approach women and expected by most, a lot of my guy friends still wont approach and will make any excuse in the book
/r/TheRedPill13/08/21 09:06 PM
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This is highly variable to where you live in the US. I cant state this enough. The south is normal and is as if the rona does not exist. A lot of us live in the northeast or west coast where the culture has been absolutely overrun by wokeness, feminism, etc, and we assume that this is happening everywhere. It is not. If you want to live in a normal place, look at migration patterns. People are moving to 3 states: Texas, Tennessee, and Florida. The rest of the south is also good, but these are th…
/r/TheRedPill13/08/21 08:58 PM
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Source: "Just trust me bro" - Its one study, not replicated. Thousands of studies come to conclusions that cant be replicated and therefore are bullshit. If you had 30 of these stating this, youd have a point. You have 1 saying muscles and height are 80% of bodily attraction, and "just trust me bro" for 50% is face. You are literally proving my point
/r/TheRedPill13/08/21 08:27 PM
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Thats just not conclusively true in the slightest. We dont know what exactly makes a man attractive and the actual percentage breakdowns. You cannot extrapolate tinder data onto the real world, which is what "studies" generally are from. A 6'3 jacked athlete will easily have a higher smv than a beautiful 5'5 skinny guy, purely on physical traits alone. Therefore you can say height and muscles override face and low bodyfat. If we look at sperm donors, they refuse to take anyone 5'8 or shorter (ha…
/r/TheRedPill13/08/21 06:35 PM
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I agree... It depends on the area though. Ive seen far too many times in incredibly liberal northeastern cities where a truly attractive guys wifes up a dud. But when Ive been to Texas, Florida, North Carolina etc... Ive seen the opposite more often then not. I do beleive political beliefs play a role in who a woman will marry. The alpha type women will marry billy beta and bully him the entire relationship. The feminine women will marry an uglier but more alpha guy, which is why you see the rev…
/r/TheRedPill12/08/21 08:43 PM
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Almost no women are statistically ugly. When men rate women, it fits like a bell curve and very few are considered "ugly." When women rate men, something like 75% fall in the "below average" category for them and almost none are considered "very attractive"
/r/TheRedPill12/08/21 08:40 PM
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Yeah, a lot of people deny muscles. But the studies are pretty clear (along with anecdotes). Musculature, facial structure and height determine most of your physical attractiveness. The good news for height is you generally just need to be taller than her (sorry for my guys under 5'5 - it is tougher for you guys). Facial structure could be bad, but having a low body fat percentage almost always brings out facial features/reduces facial fat, which increases facial attractiveness. Also, the abilit…
/r/TheRedPill12/08/21 08:33 PM
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exactly.... Ie women on dating apps... "There isnt a single good man on here" - says the 5 in search of their model-actor-doctor-football playing husband
/r/TheRedPill12/08/21 08:20 PM
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Wrong... Its their self perceived value. They project things like earnings and the school they went to and their job title as sexually valuable. They are 5's, but if they were a man, they'd be 8s. They dont realize that men value different traits than they do and thus their self perceived value doesnt match reality. And then these women develop some sort of psychosis in their late 30s because they are genuinely insane (ie objective reality is extremely distorted to their perceived reality)
/r/TheRedPill12/08/21 08:18 PM
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Nah... premium tinder costs about 35 a month now believe... same with bumble... so right there is 70 bucks. You can buy a bundle of tinder boosts of 10 for about 50 bucks and a bundle of I think 15 boosts on bumble for 30 bucks... so right there you have 150 dollars... hence 100-200 dollars. This isnt that expensive if you actually do a cost analysis. Every first date I go on from old is "a walk." It costs 0 dollars. Lets assume that you just want to do night game in person. You split the uber w…
/r/TheRedPill12/08/21 08:07 PM
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You added the word "reddit" before friends. I did not. I dont even believe "friends" on reddit is a feature... Ive been on this site for literally 2.5 months. Men in real life hate you. No one even knows who the fuck you are on here. The fact that you refer to other people as "normies" and that you believe the only thing worthwhile on the planet is "to fuck" tells me that literally no one likes you
/r/TheRedPill12/08/21 01:43 AM
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This is absolutely false. Go look up jaw surgeons, nose surgeons, plastic surgeons etc... look at their instagrams... almost all their patients increase multiple points of attractiveness from surgery
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 11:23 PM
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You literally just said there are no morals. If you can’t get laid by adults, why not molest children /s?? Because there are some morals
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 02:39 PM
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No bruh... this is called intra male respect, which even if your sole goal is to get laid, is the most important thing for attraction. It’s more important than money, looks, muscle mass, game, etc. If all men love you, women will too. If all men hate you, women will too. Now, is every man going to love you? No. But the social groups you interact in should have male respect living in them if you want to succeed in anything social
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 02:37 PM
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Haha 😂 says the user with no friends... good luck navigating the world when all men hate you because you act like this
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 02:34 PM
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No, it’s lightly moral, as is every piece of thought ever. No one here is advocating for murder or molesting 5 year old children, which, by definition, means some morals do exist
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 02:32 PM
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You sound like a guy with no male friends
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 02:30 PM
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Lol this is completely false. Rhinoplasties, jaw surgery, lasik, hair transplants etc all have very high success rates. If you don’t have any deformity , you likely aren’t ugly
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 02:11 PM
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This was beyond shitting where you eat. Fucking at work/school/social groups etc is ok in many circumstances. Fucking what seems to be his friends girlfriend is just being a bad human
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 07:24 AM
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If she was a friend within the social group, trying to fuck her is fine. Being that her boyfriend, that you knew and seemed to be friends with, was also in the group, this is scumbag behavior. I’m all for fucking at work, within social circles, etc... but there are 2 rules to follow at all times. If shes under the age of 18 (or 16,17 etc... whatever the legal age of consent is in your country/state) or she’s your friends girlfriend, she’s not touchable.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 07:22 AM
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As much as I am for self improvement, there is some truth with the black pill. Its overblown, but there is definitely some truth. I work in software, so I can see how the engineer types get into feedback loop hell. They work 8-10 hours a day with 80 plush percent men, then go to the gym with men, scroll dating apps where they have very limited success. These types also likely didnt go to parties. Are nerds. Generally not attractive either facially, height wise or have shit genetics when it comes…
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 04:41 AM
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Yeah... everyone claims that Asia is “hyper feminist” - bullshit. I’ve run the dating app experiments and dated off the boat Asians that emigrated to the US. They are higher quality then what we have here. I genuinely believe that the US and Canada has one of the worst dating markets when you take into account obesity rates, single motherhood rates, and the amount of woke feminists schools are producing. Sex, family, and work make up more than 50 percent of your life. If you work remote and your…
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 04:27 AM
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No one is mad at his history. Everyone here is for ample cold approach. To make a post about a completely random outcome of an interaction and act like it is even remotely normal is why he is getting downvoted. He didn’t “leave room for the chase.” This was as normal of a cold approach as a guy could do. It’s useless info
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 03:50 AM
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lol no idea kid... everyone is unique. An obvious path though is remote job, long term airbnbs to start. You need to have some skill set to get started. Software engineering is the obvious choice. I do not suggest moving there broke and trying to become a waiter (assuming you arent fluent in spanish)... 100k is easily enough saved to get started and have a massive safety net if things go south
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 03:39 AM
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Haha 😂 bruh... this forum is being overrun by mgtow/incels. The bald part had me laughing. You’re 6 ft and 140 pounds. Of course you look awkward. Most women weigh more than you and you’re 6 ft tall. Your “creepiness” is stemming directly from that. Put on at least 40 (you could easily put on 80 if you hit the weights hard) pounds and then come back and talk to us. You earning “6 figures” (which isn’t a lot of money... it’s average in most large metros) has nothing to do with the vibe you give o…
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 01:09 AM
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This is also mostly bullshit. Most women do not respond negatively to real life cold approaches. I’m not a good looking guy, and I can only remember two instances in total where the woman seemed offended by me approaching her. One was entirely my fault because I almost fell on her and it scared the shit out of her. If that didn’t happen, we are talking 1/hundreds of approaches
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 12:22 AM
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That’s his point though. The event you’re describing sounds like something from a movie and is likely in the 1/10,000 range of happening. A girl flipping out on you and calling you a creep is likely in the 1/5000 range. Both incredibly rare events, thus it’s better off acting as if neither will happen
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 12:07 AM
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This really isnt useful advice. It was a random occurrence. This wont happen in 99% of instances. Its analogous to me saying that you should fuck your bosses daughter because it worked out for me one time
/r/TheRedPill09/08/21 11:32 PM
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There in lies the problem. “I have a good job and am not ripped and therefore a beta.” So you’re not actually a nice guy. You did Thing A to attain Goal B. That isn’t being nice. That is you incorrectly assessing how to attain a desired goal. You realized that A doesn’t attain B, but C attains B, so you’re mad that you’re not C. Nothing is stopping you from getting ripped. We live in an age where the only thing a man can’t change about himself is his height and dick size (mostly... if you’re ded…
/r/TheRedPill09/08/21 10:03 PM
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Yes, she would fuck someone in some cases. No, it’s not going to be the hot pool boy or cable guy as this guy who has watched too much porn is suggesting
/r/TheRedPill09/08/21 09:28 PM
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"gets this thread into trouble" - from who? Do ideas scare you? Never said it will actually happen, but there are feminist extremists who have written articles stating this exact thing
/r/TheRedPill09/08/21 07:41 PM
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It’s more than that... I would say 20-30 on avg. But you can get away with it in cold climates. Tropical climates disincentive being fat
/r/TheRedPill09/08/21 04:45 PM
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For people thinking about expatriation, thats the beautiful thing about South/Central America and Parts of Asia. These climates are tropical and the women cant hide their bodies. They have to tilt their hands immediately. And are thus skinnier because of it. Some of the major northeastern cities do have in shape women, but they have been completely overtaken by leftist thoughts and career over everything ideology (ie NYC and DC). If you dont want t leave the US, Florida has the best looking wome…
/r/TheRedPill09/08/21 04:24 PM
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Yeah... this started at least 20 years ago. Patrice Oneal used to comment on it all the time... something along the lines of "We live in a place that everything a man does is bad and everything a woman does is good." Its just gained rapid speed due to the advancements of the internet. Ill take another angle at it. It is primarily alpha fux hypergamy as its root cause. If you can silence all men and destroy their sexuality in every way, this allows women to completely control the sexual market an…
/r/TheRedPill09/08/21 04:19 PM
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Dog, if a girl can snag an NFL player full time or a movie star full time or a ceo full time, there is no need for them to ride the cc. Why would they? That is at the discretion of the male though, not the female. Leo decaprio routinely takes 20-25 year old models and temporarily halts their cc riding. He ends it, not the women
/r/TheRedPill09/08/21 03:30 AM
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lol dog... another delusional incel. If you are high enough value, they will stop
/r/TheRedPill09/08/21 03:19 AM
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Question for you... when you said "you had fun," were you actually sleeping with hot women? Or were they all average looking and this is the first hot girl youve fucked?
/r/TheRedPill09/08/21 01:48 AM
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Yeah... Id love to see all these "incels" lift weights for a year, take their job seriously, go out 3 plus times a week, ask 2 girls out during the day per week, maximize photos on apps and pay around 100-200 a month on boosts and premium (it does work for apps like tinder and bumble and imo worth the cost if youre a 70th+ percenter... you'll know right away if you are (ie... boosts will actually get you hot matches)... if you arent, lift, groom and take better pics (and also consider plastic su…
/r/TheRedPill09/08/21 01:43 AM
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lol my man... if you think she's been with 20... multiply that by 5. Ive had girls who swore theyve only been with "5 guys"... did some digging and suddenly that number was easily 20-50.... the fact that she's 30 and has been promiscuous up until you is as red of a flag as you can receive. Did she have any ltr's with any guys during this time. Like at least a few boyfriends for 2+ years?
/r/TheRedPill09/08/21 01:38 AM
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Lol yes, some women cheat. But this guy is stating that they'll cheat with anything. The guy has to be magnitudes more attractive than you to her. Not some random encounter with a pool boy or cable guy. He's getting downvoted because it literally sounds like porno descriptions
/r/TheRedPill09/08/21 01:34 AM
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ehh... you do you. Id avoid that like the plague from what youve given out so far. But to each their own. The fact that she's settling at 30 after 15 years of sleeping around is vastly different than 20 or even 25. I wouldnt be against a 30 year old, but she'd have to show within the past 5 years that she wasnt sleeping around and was attempting LTRs... likely even longer than the past 5 years... major league red flag You wouldnt be able to see "a few extra pounds"... thats generally 10-20 pound…
/r/TheRedPill09/08/21 01:29 AM
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lol... no one knows how much either sex cheats. Its entirely survey data. Everyone lies. We just dont know the magnitude. You sound like an angry teenager who isnt getting laid. Go to some incel forum instead of here dog
/r/TheRedPill08/08/21 08:36 PM
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lol dog... if you believe that the cable guy and pool guy and a single girls night out (every week is a different story), you are delusional and likely have watched one too many pornos
/r/TheRedPill08/08/21 07:59 PM
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Cool... When I hear serial killer I always picture scrawny, bald, short middle aged man with a goatee and glasses who is socially awkward lol
/r/TheRedPill08/08/21 06:46 PM
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Are you intimidating or ugly? Serial killer vibe is much different than ufc fighter vibe
/r/TheRedPill08/08/21 06:40 PM
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Ehh, its much easier than this sub makes it out to be. Most are addicted to porn, dont lift/exercise/are not at their physical peak, dont groom, dont earn decent money, dont dress well, dont take good pics for apps and dont approach women in real life. Im an have an average face and can/have slept with a large amount of average looking women. Hot women? No
/r/TheRedPill08/08/21 06:34 PM
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Tattoos and piercings arent necessarily bad, but the "I just get along with guys better" girl is almost always a bad LTR
/r/TheRedPill08/08/21 06:32 PM
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Youre delusional to believe that the vast majority of women would see a hot guy in a grocery store and completely throw away a relationship to have sex with the guy once. Most of this comment is absurdly delusional, so Im not going to waste time arguing
/r/TheRedPill08/08/21 06:27 PM
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It depends on when she decided to "settle." Look at old pictures of her. If she was significantly more attractive and shes post 28 ish, youre being played. If its a 21 year old who is still in her prime, I dont see as big of a problem. Further, men are fundamentally different than women. 80 percent of men are not capable of "having fun" years. 80 percent of women are in their prime age range. This means that she's mainly fucking very hot or socially highly valued men. In the future, these men wo…
/r/TheRedPill08/08/21 06:24 PM
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These are incongruent arguments. Half of ya'all act like moral saints, yet given the opportunity, would fuck non stop. Yes, men and women are different and women get much more fucked then men when it comes to promiscuous sex. But to say a post wall 33 year old who wants a relationship now after spending 15 years having promiscuous sex is the same thing as a 19 year old who had 1 year of sleeping around with men are even remotely similar is lunacy. The major difference: 1 stopped voluntarily and …
/r/TheRedPill08/08/21 06:23 PM
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The actual answer here to "why n count matters" - this is the simplest and most accurate explanation. Paternity tests are illegal or frowned upon in modern culture and did not exist for 99.999 percent of humanity
/r/TheRedPill08/08/21 02:37 AM
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Being a slut for a year is much different than being a long term slut imo. Here's why: We all act morally perfect on here. We are not. A woman who fucks 15 dudes her freshman year in college AND stops completely after that year actually did something virtuous. She is still well within her prime (19-20) and is not fucking random dudes. This behavior is much much different than a woman who does this until her late 20s and suddenly has her "epiphany." One stopped voluntarily. The other stopped beca…
/r/TheRedPill08/08/21 02:32 AM
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You can postulate whatever youd like. It doesnt change the fact that you are wrong. Within humans and non human animals, it is very consistent with females. Females who have sex with a lower number of males do so because they can retain a high value male. Its not like they are having sex with average joe. This is indicated in our culture when you watch victoria's secret models marry movie stars and nfl athletes at relatively young ages. They are hypergamous. And you arent doing much better than …
/r/TheRedPill08/08/21 02:29 AM
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Yeah... a lot of people claim nofap to be pseudo science, but from my experience, it always works, without fail
/r/TheRedPill06/08/21 08:55 PM
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Yeah, this is my belief. I always used to joke that I had no standards, but realized over time that they are actually pretty high. Like Ill no longer have sex with women that are not either very thin or have a noticeable athletic body (abs, tight ass etc). It cuts off more than half of the available women. And thats just the first standard.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/21 08:54 PM
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Thats my argument though. I dont believe its entirely female selection. For example, the above example is from this past year. I remember downloading the apps again just to see what was out there. I had 65 numbers within a month. Matches in total probably 250 range. I just didnt feel like meeting up with any just because my experience from dating apps is that 8/10 end up being not that attractive when we meet, and thus a waste of time even if I get a fuck out of it. Its not like they are ugly, j…
/r/TheRedPill06/08/21 08:47 PM
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I think we need a better definition of incel. Are you referring to men who completely cannot get laid by any woman? Or just women they find attractive? A celibate is - "a person who abstains from marriage and sexual relations." - incel is doing this involuntary I dont think most guys are truly incels. Maybe, maybe, the bottom 10 percent. Maybe 20 percent at most. Ive had periods where Ive abstained from sex for a year or so because I was tired of fucking 6's and under and had to get my head stra…
/r/TheRedPill06/08/21 08:27 PM
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Take a chill pill. I was using ben shapiro as one singular example. If you look at my other comment on this post, I already pointed out a handful of other places that are already in the works. Generally speaking, these "trad cons" that youre shitting on may not believe in everything on here, and likely dont at all, but they do believe in a marketplace of ideas which would allow ideas like the red pill to continue on. You should being moving now if you havent already. https://www.goodlookingloser…
/r/TheRedPill06/08/21 04:44 PM
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Conservatives are and will fight back on this. Ben Shapiro was talking about completely funding a new set of utilities (think AWS, Reddit, Twitter, Youtube etc...) that bans no one. A bunch are already in the works and have gained a large amount of steam
/r/TheRedPill06/08/21 04:31 PM
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Its more complex than youre making off. Ive been with women where they were fine literally 2 years into the relationship, only to flip a switch after that. This is after moving in with eachother. Not the simplest of situations. Add in kids, mortgage, tied bank accounts... it can become a mess
/r/TheRedPill05/08/21 06:15 PM
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Interesting point. Pre-birth control era, pedestalizing women may have made sense. Its difficult to say, but I believe that to be the case from old religious and philosophical writings. Today, the pill has made a large amount of women inherently low value because they sleep around. The religious people knew that women who slept around were low value. "Virgin"- highest value thing a man could attain. "Whore" - not worth wasting an ounce of energy on. They defined these nouns simply as "has she sl…
/r/TheRedPill05/08/21 01:21 AM
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Useful comment here. So many guys bitch about the US. If you arent winning here, leave the fucking country. Seriously. South America/Eastern Europe/Parts of Asia all have lower Cost of living, better women, and better quality of life if you have some money stored up. Learning conversational spanish takes 6 months to a year if you put in the effort. The slavic languages are more difficult. Regardless, its worth it in many cases, and having both in your arsenal opens up the world to you
/r/TheRedPill04/08/21 09:36 PM
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Yeah this is the confusing part here. Is he doing this in the day? Night? etc. Night is conceivable. Go out 3 days a week. 10 women a night. Thats 1500 women in a year. If he's not including night game and OLD, no idea how a 35 ish year old is finding enough women in the day to do this. Further, if you have 6-7 plates already, it means youre hanging out with them at least once a month, likely multiple times a month. Each hangout we can assume is a net loss in other social opportunity that isnt o…
/r/TheRedPill03/08/21 10:17 PM
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Gotcha... How would you breakdown your success percentage wise of attaining plates: Cold approach, Night game, Day game, OLD, and social circle
/r/TheRedPill03/08/21 10:05 PM
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Having an alpha dad where the parents are still together may possibly be the most underrated trait when finding an LTR. It may be the single most important piece of the vetting process
/r/TheRedPill03/08/21 09:58 PM
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What do you consider "older?" Ive seen guys on this sub put older as 25 and 55 lol. Anyone post 40 would almost entirely have to get these plates from OLD and night game, and 30 is a shit ton for the 40 plus crowd (Assuming they dont live in a major city like NYC, Miami, San Fran etc). A guy in his 20s and 30s has a lot more options in the sense that college women are still within their age range, and thus they can live in college towns and feast
/r/TheRedPill03/08/21 09:51 PM
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This is a good point. Women -> rated on youth and physical appearance. Men -> rated on aggregate social capital (essentially a function combing a bunch of the things you mentioned... appearance (a combo of muscle mass, height, facial appearance, athleticism, etc), wealth and social economic output, intra male competition and respect, social influence, network quality and size, status, placement near the top of one or more important dominance hierarchies etc). As you can see from the components o…
/r/TheRedPill03/08/21 04:18 AM
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Yeah... like this isn’t an average chick... she has 20k plus insta followers and after this will likely shoot into the 100k range... that isn’t “avg”
/r/TheRedPill03/08/21 12:48 AM
1

https://instagram.com/morgandavis_24 Clearly not “average”
/r/TheRedPill03/08/21 12:43 AM
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No, you are implying that. I never said the girl was post wall. I said she will likely be less attractive. Why the fuck do you guys care enough to argue about these futile details?
/r/TheRedPill03/08/21 12:41 AM
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Where in the world did I say 26? Stop making shit up
/r/TheRedPill03/08/21 12:22 AM
10

Exactly dog. It’s making me laugh because we are talking about the genetics of a guy that is A. Taller than 99.999 percent of men B. Is more athletic than 99.999 percent of men C. Is wealthier than 99.999 percent of men. Let’s add in the fact that he has more clout than almost all men in existence, is likely the next face of the nba in 3-6 years, and had both men and women who want to suck his dick at every turn. Further, this guy is calling this girl average. She’s a legit 8, possibly a 9. Her …
/r/TheRedPill02/08/21 10:06 PM
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If you look at all other species, specifically mammals, that is how reproduction works. Males compete in some domain, females fuck the winners. The famous lobster example (who are more than 100 million years old), basically wrestle eachother in quasi tournaments. The winners then have females come to them to reproduce. There is no “wow he’s an attractive lobster, or he’s a rich lobster, etc”... it’s literally winning infra male competitions
/r/TheRedPill02/08/21 09:03 PM
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This is very relevant and the only reason why its important to lift and make money. Women dont give a shit about money and physique by itself. They care about intra-male competition, and that is a primary way we compete. Thats why guys are idiots when they say lifting is useless because its only other men who respect them and compliment them. THATS THE POINT. Intra Male hierarchies where you reside at the top. It is the number one way to get laid and attract women above all else
/r/TheRedPill02/08/21 08:55 PM
2

You used generic "regular guy," which is a backdoor reference to yourself. This wasnt about the boyfriend being cheated on. It was about you "competing"
/r/TheRedPill02/08/21 08:52 PM
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Ever since the bans of the incel subs, the red pill has gone very down hill. Its being infiltrated because they still exist online, but their platforms have been taken away, thus are spilling over into anything that talks about sex and relationships
/r/TheRedPill02/08/21 08:51 PM
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You are throwing a temper tantrum about women sleeping with pro athletes, specifically porn stars. Further the title of your post is “how can a regular guy compete when chicks who are average are having affairs with athletes.” It’s Zion fucking williamson. Like you’re acting like this guy is joe the plumber. His genetics are literally 1 in 500 million. This is one single woman, who has an only fans, and posts nude videos of herself online. 99 percent of women do not fall into this category. You’…
/r/TheRedPill02/08/21 08:23 PM
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Yeah this is a very incel ish post... classic “all women are sluts” nonsense. Some are, and she openly is one, and is popular on only fans. 99+ percent of women don’t have only fans brother. Their are only 400k content creators in the entire world. Most are low quality sluts. She’s just a higher end one. Reeks of incel/anger phase
/r/TheRedPill02/08/21 08:02 PM
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Yeah, this is bordering on an incel post rather than red pill. It’s legit one chick who is openly a slut and is actually an 8, 9 if you’re an ass guy. He’s just being resentful
/r/TheRedPill02/08/21 07:58 PM
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You’re conflating getting laid and an LTR. The LTR point, yep, you’re right. But that’s not what your post seems to be about. It seems to be about your inability to fuck. This girls ass honestly makes her a solid 8, pushing a 9, especially if you’re an ass guy. I wouldn’t call her average looking. She has an absurdly fat ass. You seem to be more jaded than logical atm
/r/TheRedPill02/08/21 07:54 PM
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Imo, there is nothing wrong with fucking these women. Hell, there is nothing wrong with banging a post wall slut. Just don’t fucking marry or cohabitate with them. It’s very simple. If this girl, in let’s say 5 years, looks somewhat faded, messaged me to fuck, and I was sexually available, I’d say yea. If she said, “we need to move In together and make it official,” I’d point to the door
/r/TheRedPill02/08/21 07:52 PM
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It’s generally all random. And we are playing with probabilities. With that being said, the rate that sluts show up in religious populations is significantly lower than non religious, even though you will have a subset of sluts in all groups
/r/TheRedPill01/08/21 08:15 PM
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I might be the odd one out here but I dont see the appeal of prostitutes. It might be some small psychopathy I have within myself, but I get off on the fact that a woman wants to fuck me. And if I ever used a prostitute, I know that wouldnt be the case. Im not moralizing for or against prostitution , but am wondering if other guys feel the same
/r/TheRedPill31/07/21 07:44 PM
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I know where your moms from so that’s all that matters. Tell her I said hi
/r/TheRedPill30/07/21 05:14 PM
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It’s also important to note that these views are Reddit. It’s about as left wing extreme as you can get. While it is a view, society is still rational enough atm that most women would view the above as absolute trash to avoid. How do I know this? Read Facebook, Instagram and Tik Tok. They have more diverse user bases. Tik Tok would absolutely shit on some of the women responses given here. You have a bunch of blue haired fatties writing these responses anonymously on these subs. Keyword: anonymo…
/r/TheRedPill30/07/21 04:30 PM
-1

I get that way after I fuck your mom
/r/TheRedPill30/07/21 03:57 PM
-2

That’s like saying outside of church, Jesus isn’t well known. You are literally preaching to a Choir
/r/TheRedPill30/07/21 04:07 AM
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Lol 😂 k... it’s useless to keep regurgitating well known knowledge
/r/TheRedPill30/07/21 03:33 AM
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Again, why is it useful to how you live and act? Do you want a pity party? “Well x study says that y feature is very important.” Cool dude. That doesn’t alter the fact that you can’t get laid or aren’t making money or don’t have friends. Solutions to problems are generally idiosyncratic because we are too unique individually to have a generalized solution to each problem we face as individuals. It’s a useless circle jerk writing about this
/r/TheRedPill29/07/21 09:46 PM
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Many reasons: academia is left wing; the “science” is largely survey’s; the red pill is fundamentally existentialism and thus “objective studies” don’t matter as much as “how to act.” They are different domains. I can sit here and explain to women that height and muscles aren’t that important based on x study - it’s not going to alter their attraction to it. Same with thing with finding studies that women being overweight or having a lot of partners doesn’t matter - it does and you trying to mak…
/r/TheRedPill29/07/21 09:37 PM
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Ehhh we already know this... this is red pill 101... not sure why we are posting about this
/r/TheRedPill29/07/21 08:57 PM
2

A lot of people claim nofap is pseudoscience. It might be, but from my own experience, erections are magnitudes harder after not fapping for 2 months. When I jerk off, i sometimes get the “semi rigid” erections which are hard enough to penetrate, but not that hard. When I don’t fap, erections turn into borderline rocks. I’ve also read multiple accounts of the same thing happening to many guys. Weak erections -> nofap -> strong erections in 1-12 months generally I would at least give it a try for…
/r/TheRedPill29/07/21 05:26 PM
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Nah, I don’t feel like arguing with you. You have god like knowledge
/r/TheRedPill28/07/21 05:45 PM
2

Dude, being a “christian” doesn’t mean you act godly. I would estimate more than half of religious people are putting on an act. It’s honestly irrelevant today. It’s one of the main reasons I don’t go to church. Too many people were putting on a show. And yes, I know I shouldn’t judge. But if this is what’s going on, why not just pick up women up at a bar?
/r/RPChristians28/07/21 05:19 PM
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Hence, “Western Europe”, not Germany. This is analogous to me saying “Americans love guns” and then you saying “hey, California chiming in.... in San Francisco we hate guns” Further, you can say Germans are getting fat. It’s not relevant. Americans are substantially fatter and there is no current indicator that most of Europe or Asia will be nearly as fat as america any time soon. Look at the data, not your own experience. Further, most Americans bitch about working. If you work for a large comp…
/r/TheRedPill28/07/21 05:12 PM
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This isn’t fully true. You need to realize, Men give no fucks in these countries too. Women over 30 are legitimately considered unmarriageable. It’s not like the west where women get in vitro pregnancies at 40. They can, but men view them as not worthy of marriage. So I’m not sure if “this is to come.” Generally, Western Europe is about 20-50 years ahead of the us on social things to come. So that would be a better indicator of America. Fortunately, South America and Eastern Europe still exist i…
/r/TheRedPill28/07/21 02:29 AM
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What you wrote back and is unreadable. Every single thing you wrote was a strawman. You are claiming I talked about things I said nothing about. Learn to read. You are likely just mad because you fall into really ugly woman category, which is a rarity. You are a psychopathic ideologue. Bye
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 01:57 PM
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You don’t have to follow... I wouldn’t at least... for example, say you go to a coffee place. Geolocate the place on insta. A bunch of girls will post pics. Lie and say “hey you showed up on for you/explore page and I thought you were cute... I go to x place too a lot”. And that’s that. If you aren’t good looking, message less attractive girls. If you are, your options are limitless
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 06:43 AM
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Yeah. I really think it’s time to abandon the US. You can easily do geo arbitrage and live like a king with a remote job. The women are better. It will take 6 months or so to be conversationally competent in a language, but I think it’s worth it. Sex life and financial life are two of the largest domains of living. Might as well maximize this. And you’re completely right on obesity. America is abnormally fat. No country is close to us in our fatness outside of the Middle East. Good post
/r/TheRedPill27/07/21 04:11 AM
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I wrote a post on something very similar recently. Check my post history and read it. Eastern Europe, Asia and South America all have become better places for single men 25 and older to live. I’d still suggest going to college in the US, but after, gtfo
/r/TheRedPill27/07/21 03:25 AM
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Lol 😂 you wouldn’t get each one of these. You’d likely have a single flaw or two and at most would pay 50k, likely much much cheaper. 100k is not a lot of money saved for a 30 year old single guy
/r/TheRedPill26/07/21 11:17 PM
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From the data we have, they are not. They can go on tinder and get more matches than the most attractive men. They suffer from loneliness almost 8 fold less than men as a group. The fact that 80 percent of all women reproduced while only 30-40 percent of men have shows that the vast majority of women aren’t ignored. Yes, severely ugly and overweight women will be ignored, but they aren’t average. Average men are treated as ugly women, which is the point of the arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 04:52 PM
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Further, this is proven by perception studies. If the object isn’t relevant to you, you don’t actually know that it exists. The basketball game-gorilla experiments proved this many years ago (look it up) and have been replicated many times. Case in point: unattractive men aren’t sexually useful to women, and thus do not exist in their perceptions
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 03:42 PM
1

This is technically untrue from the data we have. Men rate women at a Normal distribution of attractiveness, while women rate most men as unattractive (Pareto distribution like curve)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 03:40 PM
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This is false. If you are ridiculously good looking as a guy, you’re at least on insta, which is better than tinder, and easier, and higher quality
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 03:38 PM
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There is an inherent problem with surveys. Most men will lie upwards about how many women they’ve fucked, while women will lie downwards in the amount. We have no idea the magnitude. Further, it is average women we talk most about. Tbh, most really really attractive women I’ve talked to don’t sleep around. If sex was u shape, the biggest sluts are in the middle. Most guys are in the middle too, thus they see hypergamy in action by most women being passed around by a guy who is an 8 or above. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 03:27 PM
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You have it reversed. And I agree with you. I don’t understand your point here
/r/TheRedPill25/07/21 05:59 PM
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I don’t get your point? If I wanted to live in an anarcho capitalist society, I wouldn’t just get my way because I wanted it. The fact that we are seeing large scale changes towards “socialism” is because of this reason. It takes time. But it’s not a coincidence that rampant feminism pushes towards communism. I’ve already read insane articles from feminists where they literally want government tribunals selecting 10-12 year old boys and categorizing them into 3 categories. A. Will reproduce B. W…
/r/TheRedPill25/07/21 04:31 PM
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Because the data literally indicates that if you are under 60, the seasonal glue has a greater risk of serious illness and death. This opens Pandora’s box for future lockdowns, health passports, centralized cancellation of people that the government doesn’t like, etc There is quite literally no long term data on lack of infertility from COVID of internal organ damage. You are making shit up. Please stop. I can make the same exact argument that mRNA vaccines cause infertility because we literally…
/r/TheRedPill25/07/21 05:34 AM
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I view communism as a sexual strategy. How can women fuck alpha genes (top 5 percenters) but still have the resources to raise the alphas children? Enslave 80-95 percent of the male population to pay for it. That is the ultimate goal. I’m not black, but I’ve lived in black areas before. They vote liberal, but they are the least “woke” demographic I’ve come across by far, especially in urban areas. White men in urban areas are pretty fucking beta. Especially the northeast and west coast. Philly a…
/r/TheRedPill25/07/21 05:29 AM
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I’m pretty sure this is called bumble
/r/TheRedPill25/07/21 02:29 AM
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Lol exactly... rich people go to equinox and lifetime and are shelling out 300 a month on memberships... if you make decent money, it’s really not a big expense. Plus you get updated and top of the line equipment, use when traveling (for national chains), and can talk to in shape women. If you’re going for straight quantity, yeah the gym isn’t going to beat a bar or tinder. But one solid 8 is better than your 6s your matching with on tinder and hooking up with at the bar
/r/TheRedPill23/07/21 06:00 PM
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Lol 😂 was the post removed by the mods?
/r/TheRedPill23/07/21 02:17 PM
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Also, we can’t blatantly ignore life post 50. Unless you stay in phenomenal shape or are great looking, your hook up days are over when you reach this age. Good luck living another 30-50 years with no kids, no family, no wife, no “legacy” etc. Sure, you can do the plate spinning/hook ups until you’re in your mid 40s, if you want to push it that late, but by then, you really need to clamp down and get a younger wife. Your odds of getting a better wife are better in your mid 30s than they are in y…
/r/TheRedPill23/07/21 04:27 AM
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Haha 😂 dog if you think legitimate CrossFit athletes aren’t in shape I suggest you check out the instagrams of anyone who places in the top 1k of the open (hint: you may come across mine). Squatting 465, deadlifting 550, cleaning 345 and running a 5:20 mile is a pretty good level of fitness if you ask me... but nahh dude, you’re bigger and I’m just metrosexual.... says the guy who likely has a Star Wars collection 😂😂😂
/r/TheRedPill23/07/21 03:01 AM
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That’s fucking awesome. Your anecdotes are not the reality of other people’s experiences. I personally have gone out with women I met from the gym and know of others who have as well. If you consider fitness classes too, it’s larger than any other avenue of meeting people per capita that I know of (CrossFit, yoga, etc). Going to the gym for 15 years does not mean you actually look good, talk to women there, are social within it, etc
/r/TheRedPill23/07/21 01:13 AM
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As someone who is in better shape than 98% of the population, most gyms beat the shit out of home gyms. Good luck buying a rower, stair master, large sets of dumbells, quality barbells etc. Also, “gym women won’t date you” is nonsense. I’m assuming you’ve never asked out a girl in the gym. They will date you and are filled with 8s and above
/r/TheRedPill23/07/21 12:17 AM
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Lol at the commenters calling you a tradcon blue puller for investing in one woman (or a low quantity of them). I’m assuming these guys have never had casual sex from tinder/have really run the bar scene. Most of us guys are not capable of hooking up with true 8s and aboves consistently. If you are, great for you. If you’re not, one 8 or above beats 20 5s any day of the week
/r/TheRedPill23/07/21 12:13 AM
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Lol 😂 Neil Strauss is a pick up legend. Of course he’s legit. Has been confirmed to date multiple models and married one. He’s ugly af. And short. And scrawny. And was a bald 30-40 year old when he was in “the game”
/r/TheRedPill21/07/21 01:05 AM
0

Please stop with “looks don’t matter nonsense.” Yes, you shouldn’t fawn over being ugly and yes you can still get laid when you are ugly. But stop with the “it doesn’t matter.” It does, and you should optimize what you can. We live in an age of plastic surgery, orthodontic treatment, botox, peds, reliable hair regrow the methods, etc. At minimum, you should be muscular and lean, have a face cleansing/optimization routine, facial hair routine if you have some, clothes that form fit (assuming you’…
/r/TheRedPill21/07/21 01:02 AM
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Lol 😂 the red pill says absolutely nothing on how to act. It just says what is. We debate about how to act because there is no one size fits all way of acting. Some people prefer to get married, some people prefer pua living, some people prefer mgtow, some people prefer relationships but no marriage, etc. This wasn’t “red pilled.” This was reading a book or two on the red pill and then acting out like an emotional child
/r/TheRedPill20/07/21 11:33 PM
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This is iffy advice. I get what you’re saying, but we need to remember that social circle is one of the 4 main ways to get laid (social circle, day game, night game and old). I’ve had girls I was friends with talk me up to their girlfriends and got action this way. As long as you aren’t a complete simp, I don’t see a problem with female friends
/r/TheRedPill19/07/21 07:46 PM
1

I’m 1000 percent for artificial enhancements. This is a longer argument than I feel like making. But braces -> artificial yet socially acceptable. Any medication that you would’ve died from because you had a weak immune system (if you’re dead you aren’t reproducing) - artificial enhancement. I can name literally 100 plus “artificial enhancements” that are socially acceptable. Do it if you’re short
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:02 AM
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Women believe 5’9 is 6ft. Just like they think a 6 inch penis is 8 inches. Or a 170 pound guy avg height guy is “muscular.” We guys know the actual stats
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:00 AM
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You are literally misquoting what everyone can see 5 lines above this. “Some things” - not everything
/r/TheRedPill17/07/21 11:39 PM
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This is nonsense. Australia and India both sit close to the equator and are better at the western world at certain things. Chinas climate varies greatly. Eastern Europe and Western Europe are vastly different yet mostly white. Northern Africa is as far north as the southern half of the US. I wouldn’t call the Middle East a poster child for success. Also, male and female are apart of the same species. The mother literally cannot abandon a child less than 1 years old, and it will have major proble…
/r/TheRedPill17/07/21 06:00 PM
2

I’m convinced half this sub is now comprised of teenage incels so I no longer care lol
/r/TheRedPill16/07/21 03:17 PM
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You don’t describe graph shapes in math like that. Direction does not matter. I’m not going to lecture you on basic mathematics. The x and y axis are interchangeable and the variables of the graph can go in either direction. But the shape stays consistent. So the “U” can be facing 4 different directions based on the variable definitions. Please stop trying to sound smart. You make yourself look like a dumbass
/r/TheRedPill16/07/21 05:03 AM
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I don’t think understand math.... the middle part = most... the edges = least... thus the graph has a U shape. This isn’t hard to understand
/r/TheRedPill16/07/21 04:42 AM
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I’ve been staring this repeatedly on here. High valued women do not sleep around (in general). Slutiness is U shaped. Your 5s, in general, will have the highest body counts. Your true 9s will, in general, be lower than average. This is an added incentive to not settle for average women when marrying.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/21 11:06 PM
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I agree. I consider myself red pilled, but have also been permanently banned from mgtow and have been temporarily banned from the red pill in the past for disagreeing with guys who spout the “every woman is a whore/slut” nonsense. I believe there is a lot of truth in the red pill, but ever since subs for incels and blackpillers have been taken down, they’ve been infiltrating other places and bringing them down
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:00 PM
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You basically just wrote out the creation of red pill ideology. It’s not the “media.” It’s reality. Guys are nice/chase etc and get no where. They start following red pill advice, pick up artist advice, Jordan Peterson esque advice, and finally, they get female attention. That’s why it’s called the red pill. We don’t necessarily like it. But it’s the truth. And if you want to have any success with women and life in general, you find out the truth and apply the principles of it to your life
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 05:34 PM
1

This is just objectively false. Again, your anecdotes do not indicate overall trends. First time marriages do not end in divorce more than 60 percent of the time. Therefore, your claim is incorrect. Further, even if they do end, your claim that it’s always “hypergamy” is wrong. Is it in some cases or even most cases? Maybe. But even then, 75% ish relationships do not fall to hypergamy. You only notice the ones that don’t succeed and the. Claim all are like that. Do an inventory of your friends, …
/r/TheRedPill15/07/21 04:08 AM
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You need to realize it’s self selective though. Like there have been times when I used to think all women were sluts in the past. But it’s self selection. I had a douchey tinder profile. Who uses tinder? Who swipes right on fratty/douchey looking guys? Generally sluts. The girls you interact with likely don’t represent the entire population of women. Your experience doesn’t equate to the generalized trend of what actually happens And how many is “a lot” of women. Like 20 plus? Or a handful that …
/r/TheRedPill15/07/21 03:56 AM
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You cannot hold the claim that women decrease in value as they age while simultaneously claiming that they can easily “trade up” as you age. Further, it doesn’t give them more reason to trade up if they are with you at your lowest point. I swear half of you guys have seriously little experience with women. Not every woman is a sociopathic slut looking to constantly move up
/r/TheRedPill15/07/21 03:42 AM
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Because if you can attract women when you have nothing, they are attracted to you, not the social status, money etc of what you become
/r/TheRedPill15/07/21 03:28 AM
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Haha k... this is entertaining... I didn’t know people could have this little going on in their life that they keep commenting on a random strangers post 😂😂😂😂😂
/r/TheRedPill14/07/21 10:49 PM
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Haha k... why do you keep commenting? Do you honestly think to youre changing my opinion? “Beta”... grow tf up
/r/TheRedPill14/07/21 10:45 PM
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This is a valid argument. With that being said, most countries and states will find ways to force common law, child support, etc. I think many young guys on here shit on marriage mainly because they aren’t getting laid and they try to make an odd moralistic stance on in to justify their lack of success with women. It’s not as bad as mgtow, and some guys are justified in their reasoning, but most men on here are fooling themselves to make themselves feel better about their shitty lives
/r/TheRedPill14/07/21 10:33 PM
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You don’t get to define attraction. For the majority of men (not all), they look more attractive with hair Further, the vast majority of “plastic” surgery isn’t plastic. Braces is moving teeth bone. Jaw surgery is moving jaw bone. Chin surgery is moving chin bone. Nose surgery is altering nose bone. We know what makes men and women attractive. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder is mythology
/r/TheRedPill14/07/21 10:28 PM
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Yeah, we need to avoid anecdotes in this type of debate. I don’t know why it’s so hard for people to comprehend that general population trends do not explain every specific instance
/r/TheRedPill14/07/21 10:20 PM
-1

Haha 😂... most of the guys I know who “work for their dad” generally are incapable of getting a job on their own. Big fucking whoop with honor roll. Grade inflation is insanely high. It’s not impressive anymore when 80% of students have a b or higher avg
/r/TheRedPill14/07/21 09:06 PM
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K dog. The data we have shows that having both biological parents present most of the time has a hell of lot better outcomes for your kids. You’re not a wizard, but your kids are probably trash
/r/TheRedPill14/07/21 09:00 PM
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I’m not advocating that you don’t get married. But it’s fucking stupid to blanketly state not to. If you want kids, you need to get married. A lot of people get the most life satisfaction out of children. If you do get married, avoid sluts, try to find the woman when you are poor/lower in status so her chances of cheating/divorcing are lowered, etc (the normal vetting). Life isn’t always about being “alpha” and trying to fuck as many random women as possible
/r/TheRedPill14/07/21 08:27 PM
3

The strongest love on the planet is parent and child. No sane parent views their child as equal
/r/TheRedPill13/07/21 06:45 PM
2

I don’t but yeah this is definitely something that guys should get fixed. It’s not black pilled to look at that and say “yeah, if you have a severely recessed chin, you should get surgery.” Deformities that bad can’t be helped by beards, haircuts etc. You’re fucked if you have that from a sex standpoint, regardless of what people on here will say. And this guy looks like he’d be helped with jaw surgery too. His entire lower face is recessed and small. There is a difference between a slightly rec…
/r/TheRedPill12/07/21 02:32 PM
1

You can want that, but it’s not attainable. Maybe like .01 percent of men are capable of something like that. You are better off being monogamous but being capable of leaving at any time
/r/TheRedPill11/07/21 03:25 AM
2

Fundamentally, you should aspire for monogamy. The only reason you do “plates” is to get to the level that you know you can have a large choice of women. It’s solely to be able to negotiate. You claim you don’t like monogamy, yet your entire post claims that’s what you want. So do that. It isn’t hard
/r/TheRedPill11/07/21 02:43 AM
1

You are missing the point. It’s unnoticeable to people you’ve never met before. For the examples of the two people in high school. Everyone in the high school said “holy fuck... they are gorgeous now” type of reaction. The people they met later in life had no idea and just thought it was natural
/r/TheRedPill09/07/21 12:19 AM
1

Yes... if we look to Hollywood, politicians, athletes... nose jobs and chin implants are frequent and generally not noticeable... ie why it’s considered a “good” plastic surgery... I know two people who go jaw surgery... one guy and one girl... the girl went from decent looking to 10k plus followers on Instagram... the guy basically was a “chad” in college... wasn’t in high school at all when I met him. You don’t notice good plastic surgery and no one will tell you they had it unless you ask, th…
/r/TheRedPill09/07/21 12:01 AM
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I’m not sure where you’re getting “divorces are down” and “everyone pays for a big wedding.” Divorces are down marginally, solely because literally no on gets married. We can also cite the fact that single motherhood makes up about half the children now. For all intents and purposes, single motherhood is functionally equivalent to divorce. This seems like you wrote a post to convince yourself that nothing bad will happen in your marriage because of general population statistics that don’t tell t…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/21 03:48 PM
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Yes, but that is not indicative of general population trends. You seem to not be able to stay on track of the original argument of "all women are hoes." No, the very small subset you are fucking are... which comes out to an infinitesimally percentage of the general female population "I bang customers" - Sure dude... this is why I cant take your account seriously. You may have banged a handful, but stop acting like its routine Edit - LOL and youre a mgtow'er... yup.. the chads sit on mgtow thread…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/21 12:24 AM
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You can’t be this dumb. You live in one city in America. Your city is one of the most densely populated cities in the us. You aren’t going to run out of matches. You’d literally have to swipe 100 thousand ish times. It has an abnormal amount of people between 18-34 that does not match the rest of the makeup of the US. You getting laid on tinder does not mean that the user base is large relative to the population. Again, people get laid from it all the time. That doesn’t change the argument that …
/r/TheRedPill08/07/21 12:11 AM
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Read my other comment bich... I still don’t know how you have somehow convinced yourself that lopsided gender usage and low account numbers are beneficial to investors
/r/TheRedPill07/07/21 11:54 PM
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You really do show massive inexperience here. We’ll use a basic example: college. Who do you think frat guys sleep with primarily? Their friends (ie people within their social circle) - these are sorority girls and the frat groupies. I’ve worked in tech companies for a some time. I’ve never met a chad esque technical worker. You’re either hot or you’re an engineer. They are the most beta people I’ve been around. You claim to just go to town on women while also going to school for engineering. My…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/21 11:53 PM
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Righhttt... just go off your own anecdote... must be the truth. https://www.statista.com/statistics/814698/share-of-us-internet-users-who-use-tinder-by-age/ But this obviously can’t be accurate because you’re an all knowing sex god. You are literally chad incarnate so you must be right. I’m soooo jealous of how much sex you have with those 18 year olds... truly a god I genuinely can’t tell if you’re a troll account or actually just this stupid. The fact that you can’t understand statistics does …
/r/TheRedPill07/07/21 05:53 PM
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Some of your info is accurate, but we are absolutely certain that women are not in the same stratosphere of horniness as men. Men have ample testosterone, women don’t. If you don’t have a lot of testosterone, you aren’t going to be that horny. Further, most women rarely orgasm. The vast majority of men on here go nuts if they haven’t nutted in a few days
/r/TheRedPill07/07/21 02:56 PM
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And we are failing to take into account U shaped slutiness. Most of us on here are not peeing with 8s and above (even though every guy on here claims that). I was watching a podcast about testosterone on Rogan the other day, and the scientist verified my guys instinct. Really attractive women don’t slee around because they have what biologists call a “high mate value.” Basically, they are hot, know they are hot, and can attract a very high quality guy who will stick. The sluttiest women are the …
/r/TheRedPill07/07/21 02:54 PM
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You can’t arbitrarily throw out 35+ when the majority of the user base is between 30-49. Further 2 million out of 170 mil is 1 percent. Roughly 8 percent of women have ever made an account, ever. You are very delusional about women dude. Even if they wanted to “get pumped and dumped,” all have friends that they can have sex with. They do not need dating apps for them. My point is some women do this. Maybe even most women. But that isn’t the original argument. The original argument is “every woma…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/21 02:21 PM
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Just to add to this. September 2019 - tinder had 7.86 American accounts - roughly 6 million men and roughly 2 million women - 2 million of the 170 million women that live in the us
/r/TheRedPill07/07/21 05:40 AM
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Yeah, this is accurate. Due to the Pareto distribution on ALL social apps, the cc is overblown. Women who talk about it go viral on apps like Tik Tok, and we then extrapolate that on to all women. It’s far too much of a generalization. Guys on here think ALL women use dating apps. 30 percent of All Americans have ever used a dating app. 80 percent of that 30 percent is men. The sluttiest women serially use apps, and thus we extrapolate that onto the general population. A lot of men on here are b…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/21 04:48 AM
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This is wrong technically. If we use objective data, we know that virgin wives have something close to a 7x less likelihood of divorce (relative to a woman with 5 or more partners). Further, chemical bonding decreases with every partner for women. It doesn’t for men (due to functions of testosterone). Some women may feel like they missed out, but not all. Further, you assume that most people go to party schools. It’s not true. More than half of college students are going to commuter state school…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/21 04:42 AM
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This is absolutely wrong. You need to live to "impress others" because you are a social being. Providing value is analogous to "impressing others." If you really want to live for yourself, become a monk and go live in the woods for 5 years. Tell us how awesome it was when you get back The real way to live is to be competent, useful and attractive (to others, not yourself), but dont be a pushover, yes man. The "jerk" you describe is generally socially useful and is a jerk because of his usefulnes…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/21 11:19 PM
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You could be useful to her in some way in the future
/r/TheRedPill05/07/21 11:36 PM
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And even if this isnt direct success in the dating or financial field, it grows your network and makes you sort of the "it" guy, which in return helps with all other facets of life
/r/TheRedPill04/07/21 10:36 PM
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Good for you. How old are you? I’ve seen this happen to multiple guys around 30
/r/TheRedPill04/07/21 03:18 PM
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You have an interesting profile. I would advise against an open relationship. It will lead you to wanting to have sex with other people down the road, ultimately ending the relationship. Sure, men want to “naturally” spread seed. Just like we naturally want to eat non stop junk food, we naturally don’t feel like exercising, we naturally don’t want to work, etc. To be a man, you have to override tour emotions. If you want to get laid a lot, you need to override your negative feelings when rejecte…
/r/askTRP04/07/21 05:57 AM
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Yeah it’s odd... I’m pro plastic surgery and enhancement for women too. Like guys want you to look hot. We don’t care if you cheat. We like makeup, tits etc... like if you’re born with a cups and want to go for a c, why not? I also knew a girl who had a severe underbite. She got jaw surgery. Went from a 5 to a 9 overnight
/r/TheRedPill04/07/21 05:09 AM
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Good for you. I think this is an important point to on physical appearance. The less fat, more muscle, better teeth, better bone structure, etc, the younger you look. I’m assuming that this halo effect has helped you a lot in the work force
/r/TheRedPill03/07/21 10:58 PM
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If you look at third world countries, they are almost all conservative. Families are large and close nit, communities stay together, hook up culture doesn’t exist anywhere near the level that it is in the west, women actually sacrifice for their families, men aren’t feminine etc... so the culture basically fosters a stable environment. And I mean conservative culturally. Like China is obviously communist, but women don’t whore around, men are seen as failures if they don’t provide for their fami…
/r/TheRedPill03/07/21 09:27 PM
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Yes and no. Are there outliers? Yes. However, almost all depression can be linked to issues in the bottom 3 tiers in maslows hierarchy of needs
/r/TheRedPill03/07/21 09:21 PM
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It’s lack of desire due to complexity. For example, let’s say you can’t get laid. You tried x amount of things in the past. None of them work. You’ve run out of the easy methods to solve the problem, so you quit. It’s still fundamentally “life isn’t going the way I wanted it to and I don’t know what to do now, so I’ll just sit around and maybe it will magically fix itself” Basically there is no obvious solution, and thus, you stop acting entirely (to solve the issue)
/r/TheRedPill03/07/21 08:15 PM
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Mental health isn’t “real” in most cases. A large amount of psychologists agree. What is real is life problems. Don’t have friends? Don’t have sex? Don’t have a girlfriend? Have a shitty job? Does your family suck? Do you have no goals you’re pursuing? Etc All of these things manifest as “mental health” problems. The true way to fix mental health is to take inventory on your life. See what’s wrong. See what’s fixable. Create a plan and fix it. If you don’t like your appearance, see what can actu…
/r/TheRedPill03/07/21 08:02 PM
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How old are you now btw? What age did you have the surgery?
/r/TheRedPill03/07/21 07:57 PM
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Min. Will have side effects, but you’ll notice if you have them almost immediately. The number one side effect is low blood pressure. I would personally use this as a last resort option. Micro needling works for a lot of men and it’s completely physical
/r/TheRedPill03/07/21 07:54 PM
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Solid comment. I’d suggest to most people not to become obese, but if you do, fat loss surgery can be massively helpful to your life. Health, dating, financials etc all improved drastically
/r/TheRedPill03/07/21 05:01 PM
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Yes and no. Should he have been 300 plus pounds in the first place? No. Did fat loss surgery change his life? Yes. Does anyone care that he cheated to get skinny? No
/r/TheRedPill03/07/21 05:00 PM
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True, but lack of social success is entirely different than wanting to be alone. Even if you’re an introvert, you don’t want to be alone. The worst criminals get the following punishment: social isolation
/r/MGTOW03/07/21 03:40 AM
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Alphas and betas absolutely exist. In a few sentences: Alphas: large amounts of women want to have sex or relationships with them. They have success in the social, financial and sexual Spheres at noticeably high rates. They are noticeable in one or more social environments. They can negotiate and walk away because they have options, in a large number of domains Betas: almost no women wants to have sex or a relationship with them. They have small social circles (or none at all) and are not notice…
/r/TheRedPill03/07/21 03:37 AM
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This is really bad messaging. Life isn’t supposed to be lived alone. Even if you decide to swear off women, which probably isn’t a good idea, at least try to get guy friends
/r/MGTOW03/07/21 02:02 AM
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Women aren’t having babies in the US, Canada and Western Europe. They are in every other part of the world. This will easily allow places that still have gender roles, ie all developing countries, to easily overtake nations that have no young people
/r/MGTOW03/07/21 01:32 AM
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Lol 😂 one wouldn’t exist. The war between the sexes is so stupid. Men are needed (ie woman can’t do it) to build, defend, provide half of the reproductive means, raise children (the male way), etc. Women are needed to provide half the reproductive means, raise children (the female way), feed children. We’ve lost our roles as a society and will pay for it in 50-200 years
/r/MGTOW03/07/21 01:07 AM
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Lol 😂 my man... I alter my identity slightly because I still need to keep my job. That’s why no one here has pictures of themselves. I’m around 6ft and around 200 lbs... but I’m not giving away my exact features. You are proving the reason why I partially hide my identity. Random accounts stalking my profile
/r/TheRedPill02/07/21 11:49 PM
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Yeah dude, traveling isn’t a hobby. It’s to gain clout on Instagram. I don’t like traveling. If I do, I like to stay where I’m going for like a month plus and actually live where I’m at. Most of traveling now is for instagram and Snapchat clout. For example, let’s say you actually love the beach. Why not live in Florida where that could be you everyday life? Because most people don’t actually love the beach. They love the Instagram photos in a bikini. I for one like to optimize lifestyle. It’s w…
/r/MGTOW02/07/21 09:44 PM
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Do alphas exist in nature? Yes. Is it cringe to call yourself alpha? Also yes. The reason is simple: it does not matter if a behavior is “alpha” or “beta.” What matters is life satisfaction. If I actually love a girl and show affection, a lot of you guys would consider that “beta” behavior. I wouldn’t care at the moment, because my life satisfaction would be high. So why is it cringe? Because you are living to be judged by other strangers on the internet rather than living for yourself
/r/TheRedPill02/07/21 09:17 PM
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The red pill doesn’t state how to act. It just states what is, and we debate here how to act on what truly exists in reality. I would never get a vasectomy, but I’ll upvote because we need to debate things like this. For a subset of men, it makes sense. For most, it does not. But it’s still worth discussing
/r/TheRedPill02/07/21 09:10 PM
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Yeah for cases like that, it’s generally upper jaw advancement that is the true solution
/r/TheRedPill02/07/21 03:39 PM
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Its easy to say that if you dont have severe issues. If you have an issue that is extremely noticeable (IE severe underbite or overbite, missing teeth, large/crooked/non straight nose, severely baggy and large eyes, severe acne etc) you cant really look "put together." Like I for one have noticed guys with missing teeth, bad bites, giant noses , acne etc. I cant take my eyes off of it. If they got it fixed, they'd be helped out a lot
/r/TheRedPill02/07/21 03:52 AM
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Mewing is legit, but is does not work for people with more severe bite issues. The reason: If the bit issue is severe enough to cause a lip incompetence (Meaning you cannot close your mouth at rest), mewing wont work. These types of people need surgery, elastics or pulled teeth to close their mouths. Surgery has the best results, and you generally want to avoid teeth pulling because it does fuck up a lot of faces. With that being said, the vast majority of guys on this sub do not have bad enough…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/21 03:49 AM
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Lol For whatever reason, all you guys think that this post was for me. I do not need juice. I bench 350, squat 450, and deadlift mid 500s with straps. Im doing fine weightlifting. I have a six pack. My dad had a six pack until he was 50. Both my grandparents also had six packs. Im athletic enough that I had scholarship offers in 2 different sports for low level d-1 athletics I have good genes. However, A lot of people also go to the gym for years and make no progress. Those guys should look into…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/21 12:51 AM
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Hahah my man... I have no urge to prove a point to randos on how I look without a shirt. I can bench 350, squat 450 and pull about 550 with straps at about 200 pounds and finished within the top 1k of the crossfit open this past year. But K lol. If you truly want to see a pic Ill dm you, but again, I dont see how me being jacked is relevant at all to this post. You have some weird wanna be alpha complex going on. Edit: and based off your pics, Im substantially more ripped than you, by alot. Id a…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 10:06 PM
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Yeah its a good side effect for guys who cant grow beards... If you werent late this would have a lot of upvotes
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 09:52 PM
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lol yes I myself am taking steroids, getting a hair transplant, getting a nosejob, getting jaw surgery, getting braces, wearing platform shoes and taking prescription acne medication all at once. What is actually insecure is having a physical deformity that is fixable and not fixing it to prove that you are "alpha". Obviously no one has all of these issues. But almost all of us have some of them. Stop trying to prove your manliness and get it fixed. Youre too cool to admit that you can look bett…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 09:50 PM
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Yes, but the main point of this entire discussion is to not throw away something that is incredibly useful because they view it as "fake," "beta," "cheating," etc
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 06:22 PM
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I agree with this actually, but as you can see from the comments, we have a lot of butthurt guys on here who view any of these things as "beta." I basically made this post to encourage guys who are on the fence about any sort of enhancement to go get it done and stop worrying about what others think
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 06:20 PM
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Again, he founded his own company. Ive stated this 3 times already. Founder does not equal ceo who climbed the corporate ladder
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 06:18 PM
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Quite literally, pursuing anything and achieving it is analogous to winning. It is literally the thing that causes positive emotion. Sure, act like some stoic guru... "none of it matters man." Mountains of psychological evidence prove other wise. If you have any goals, achieving the goal is the same thing as winning. And from your posts about your therapy sessions, you seem to have some goals and therefore do care about winning "Accept who you are" is quite possibly the worst advice you can give…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 06:17 PM
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Ive personally never had hair (Ive always had a buzzcut, like 0-2 level razor), so if baldness ever comes for me, id pretty much look the same. With that being said, some guys do look night and day better with hair. This was a general guide of things that popped into my mind, but each guy needs to do a self evaluation. For me and you, hair doesnt have that big of an effect on us, so we will avoid seeking any treatments for it
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 04:13 PM
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I get what youre saying, but its almost always better to be attractive than unattractive.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 04:06 PM
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True. You seem to be in shape. Bald and in shape generally is a good look. Hair matters more for guys who arent in shape and have small jaws or cant grow a beard. You seem to fall into the more "masculine" category of faces, so being completely bald works for you. If its working, no need to worry about it
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 04:03 PM
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I wouldnt worry about people looking down on you. No one would know what drugs you are on. You will not be holding a sign saying "I take beta blockers." If its going to make your life better, go ask your doctor for them. To me it sounds like you either have public speaking anxiety (which I have) or general anxiety (which a shit ton of people have), and beta blockers are known to be possibly the most effective drug for these issues
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 04:00 PM
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To your point, we do know that some treatments, specifically pulling teeth, do fuck up peoples face. If teeth need to be pulled, in 90%+ of those cases, what you actually need is jaw surgery. The orthodontist is trying to artificially shrink your jaw via teeth. The actual way to fix it is by making the opposing jaw larger via surgery. Surgery is too expensive for a lot of people, so they just go with traditional orthodontics. With that being said, Invisalign does make most people look better who…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 03:56 PM
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This is true, but it doesnt stop the fact that it makes a lot of people look bad in adult hood. Get it fixed. You cant go back to being a child a forcing yourself to eat steak daily as a 1 year old
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 03:52 PM
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Yeah its an exaggeration, but it still looks bad on some guys. Each person has to realistically look at themselves and grade whats actually bad looking about them and whether or not its fixable. If you look bad bald, get a wig
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 03:50 PM
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Lol, founders are notably less attractive then people who replace them. There is loads of data on this. Most founders are under 6 ft tall. Established companies uniformly have ceos over 6 ft tall. Why? Because looks matter in the corporate world and climbing the ladder. There isnt a single wall street ceo under 6 ft, and those are the most established companies in the US. Looks matter, stop kidding yourself
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 03:48 PM
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Its possible. Old people with heart problems take quadruple that dose (320 mg), so i think its safe for most people. When I took 20 mg I had no problems, though it is considered a very low dose
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 03:45 PM
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Yeah, first step is dermatologist. Microneedling can work, but go to a professional place or buy an actual machine rather than using a cheap derma roller. Dermatologist would also have more advanced treatments than just microneedling, so go see one
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 03:44 PM
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lol... the classic "real man" - k
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 03:41 PM
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Ehh, youre assuming only surgery. Braces arent expensive. Botox isnt expensive. Steroids (depending on where you get them) arent expensive. Further, youre assuming this sub is filled with poor people. Ive read up on the demos of reddit. 80% of us make over 30k a year, and close to 40% make over 75k. If you fall into that 40%, youd have money for some of the more expensive surgeries and hair loss treatments
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 03:39 PM
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Youre assuming benefits of looking better would solely be sexual. It is one benefit, but its certainly not the only one. General social success as well as financial success comes from being better looking
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 03:34 PM
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This is good advice, especially for the 13-young 20s crowd. Go to the dermatologist if any sign of acne starts. In severe cases it leaves scarring, and in moderate cases it just looks bad. Getting a prescription medicine to fight it will make your younger years of dating infinitely easier. And you make a great point, something I shouldve hammered on more in the post. Not only do looks matter for each individual interaction, but they create positive feedback loops that can become so powerful that…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 03:14 PM
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Yeah, the vast majority of meatheads are lifting to get laid, but its not really an acceptable thing to say, so "health" becomes their reason
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 03:11 PM
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Full bald isnt always bad. You generally either need a good head shape or you need to be jacked. Its definitely better than the half bald/balding head. This would fall under grooming more than hair loss prevention, but is still useful
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 03:10 PM
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Yeah most guys seem to neglect forearms, including me, and Im relatively strong (like a 350 bench for upper body)
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 03:08 PM
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Haha if we are talking drugs, beta blockers are the biggest cheat code Ive ever taken in my life. Better than alcohol, weed, etc. Ive only taken low doses from a friend, but the effects are insane. Highly recommend if you have physical anxiety. I used them for public speaking, but people use them for daily use too. I believe I took 20 mg pills, but the dosage goes as high as 320 mg a day. 20 mg had zero noticeable increase in heart rate for me before speaking (thats when my heart rate generally …
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 05:59 AM
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Ive heard of women sleeping around post 18 when they move to a big city/big university etc and can hide from the social repercussions. 37 pre college is queen slut level. If this was after college, Id still say avoid, but its pretty avg now a days with a lot of these women. When she can use tinder and start legally fucking anyone, the 18-50 guy range is going to come in and she'll be over 100 in a year. You made the right move The first woman I had a relationship with in college ended up sleepin…
/r/askTRP01/07/21 05:43 AM
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Idk where you live, but a good start would be going to your doctor and getting testosterone checked. If its low or even just below optimal, you could justify prescription use. If not, go to a bodybuilding gym. Ive been to some in the US (specifically Florida and Texas) where it was so frequently used that they had specific garbage cans for needles filled to the brim each week
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 05:37 AM
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Yeah... The returns are marginal after some point (Like a c to d and beyond... all nice sized boobs) just like a really jacked guy taking some testosterone will only see a marginal increase. Either one is light years better than being fat and in most cases better than being skinny (though stoners, skaters and artsy types would benefit from being skinny if they were just trying to penetrate certain demographics)
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 05:30 AM
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Keto and carnivore diets generally decrease bloating too
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 05:27 AM
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Also a good point. Ill be the first to admit with myself that my teeth blow (and hence the reason for this post because Im getting work done to fix them). Do I currently get laid? Yeah. Is it with 8+s - No. The average girl I get with is between 5-7. Mostly skinny girls but nothing that would really turn guys heads. Becoming more attractive will likely up the quality
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 01:31 AM
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Exactly. I know I keep using famous people, but we are all strangers so I need to. Look at Bradley Martyn. The guy is literally famous for being juiced and lifting weights. Not a single one of the 20 year old instagram models that he hangs out with (which seems like a new one every week) gives a flying fuck. "Girls dont like muscles" - Give me a break. Girls dont like fat guys who are strong with no definition. But if you look like him, its attractive (lean muscle mass)
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 01:28 AM
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Yeah it would vary by whatever treatment you get. Something like a nose, pay up for. But if you get something like botox or Testosterone, I would go cheap because its temporary and youd get to have some say in the dosage
/r/TheRedPill01/07/21 01:23 AM
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If I said "my friend bob," youd have no reference to him.If you said "my cousin tim," Id have no reference to him. Therefore, the use of a famous person is a sufficient reference point. We can look at him and say "Yeah, he looks pretty fucking good for being in his 40s." Which in turn means that the hair loss treatment and plastic surgery actually worked, not "it makes him look older and unnatural"
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 11:49 PM
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Thanks for the comment. Ive heard they make a massive difference
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 11:12 PM
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This is an abnormal case. Most people look better if they have fucked up teeth and get braces. Why not get braces to reverse the treatment. dental decompensation is the word for it. Generally done in preparation for more severe orthodontic treatment. But it generally magnifies your misalignment rather than fixing it
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 11:12 PM
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This seems to be the conclusion of the majority of people who got braces, facial surgery, achieved massive weight loss etc. I did x treatment and all aspects of my life got better. You have outliers where the treatment foes bad. People die on the operating table.The surgery gets botched. Teeth die during braces. People become anorexic. The negatives almost never happens though. Life is inherently risky. If your life isnt going the way you want and you risk nothing, nothing will change
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 11:08 PM
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Like I said in previous comments, Testosterone supplementation is not necessary if you are already putting on muscle. Just like braces arent necessary if you have mostly straight teeth or hair loss medication isnt necessary if you have mostly full hair. But if you have disgustingly crooked teeth, get them fixed. If you are balding, either shave it or take anti hair loss drugs or get a hair transplant
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 10:50 PM
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This paradoxically proved my point. You recall 1 specific instance of an ugly guy doing well. Thats it. You cant recall the 100s of instances of male models doing well because they all do well. Further, an MMA fighter is not an average dude and is generally more aggressive than 95% of the male population, thus leading to more sexual success. If he's an mma fighter, he's also athletic, which counts a lot towards your smv. Do outliers exist. Absolutely. Most guys on this sub would benefit more fro…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 10:43 PM
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So would you say tom brady reeks insecurity? We know hes had plastic surgery done along with hair transplants. Would you say brad pitt is insecure? Hes had plastic surgery. Would you say that the 1/3 of Americans whove had braces are insecure? Im sure some look better because they had braces. How in the world would a woman know that you had a nose job or were taking hair loss medication? They wouldnt. Guys on instagram with 100k plus followers openly admitting to roid use. They are insecure? May…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 10:38 PM
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I agree. Most people dont have jaw issues. Or eye issues. Or Nose issues. or Teeth issues. Or hair loss at 20. But most people have some of these issues. If your issue is low T, get it fixed with hormone therapy by your doc
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 10:34 PM
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To a point. Low T is an actual health issue and there is substantial variance between individuals in the type of muscle fibers they have in their bodies. For example, Im pretty jacked. I can bench 350 pounds, squat 450 and deadlift about 530. However, Id never be an elite distance runner. I could break 5 minutes when I was thin (for a 1 mile), but I could never get into the elite low 4 level. And thats due to muscle fiber type
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 10:29 PM
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To go further on your point, most true alphas who were never once unattractive dont have game or have ridiculously high social iqs (because they dont need to have it). Just imagine the results that someone like a neil strauss would have had had he gotten hair back and was taller. So that puts someone like you at an even higher advantage because you knew what it was like to be odd looking and learned how to deal with that, and then after one surgery you became good looking with all of the social …
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 10:28 PM
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Thanks for the comment: Even though this is the pretty standard advice on here, this is what I was looking for from this post. Not a debate on whether or not looks are important A tidbit that is actually pretty useful from this comment: the expensive barber to non expensive barber piece. A lot of guys would go up a point in smv if the either got a hair cut or went full bald rather than having their shitty hair style
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 10:24 PM
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And I should have made clearer in my original post. If you dont have an actual deformity (Ie the face surgeon says your nose is fine or the doctor tests your testosterone and its above avg already), then you shouldnt just get a surgery or take the juice just because. But a lot of guys on here are legit bad looking due to a fixable problem (teeth, nose, jaw, musculature) and they should get it fixed
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 10:18 PM
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I get what youre saying. Most people dont need it. But the group that does need it should use it and stop worrying about being alpha. If you go to the doctor and tell him that you arent putting on muscle and he tests you and you have low T, you should take some T Most people dont need jaw surgery. If you have a severe bite issue, get jaw surgery. Most people dont need a nose job. If you have breathing problems, get a nose job. Most people dont have severe vision problems. If you do, get eye surg…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 10:15 PM
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Yes and no. From the research Ive read, founders (bezos, gates zuck etc) are substantially smaller than non founders. Which means that image matters for most of us. Most of us arent going to be the founders of facebook. We will be founders of small companies or living in bureaucratic corporations that value appearance over performance
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 10:08 PM
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Id legitimately like to hear your reasoning on a nose job (surgery) vs 2 years of braces (non surgical). Both change your facial bone structure (especially braces pre 15 years old). Yet one isnt accepted, while the other is not. And you cant say because braces are less severe. Having rubber bands pull your jaw for a year plus causes drastic changes to the entire face. Edit: lol downvote rather then explain your reasoning. Got it
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 10:02 PM
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Right... Im a 5'1 250 pound basement dweller without teeth and a crooked nose. righhht. Point is, Ill eventually take testosterone and hair loss supplements when the time comes for me (35-45) and will have no shame in taking them. Other guys shouldnt either. But go ahead. Be alpha and dont do anything to improve your appearance. You are so caught up in being "alpha" when you could just enhance your looks and not have to worry about being "alpha" This honestly sounds like you are trying to convin…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 09:51 PM
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I wouldnt initially recommend juice to start. But what do you tell a guy who's lifted for 3 years, is not getting laid, and hasnt put on any amount of substantial muscle. "Hey, maybe you should go to the doctor for testosterone" (its legal in countries like canada). And all of a sudden, they put on muscle. Its a win for them Further, you'd generally not get something like a nose job or jaw surgery unless you had a legitimate abnormality. Would you rather have those guys live with the abnormality…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 09:47 PM
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Exactly this. Psychologists have documented this for years (The halo and devil effects). Wall street ceos: Every one has an immaculate smile and is over 6'2 - there is a reason there are no 5'5 ceos with baggy eyes on wall street. We can list a ton of instances, but broadly speaking, you now have a halo with every single social interaction. And this will have a very positive feedback loop on your life as whole. For whatever reason, this really pushes peoples buttons on here when appearance comes…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 09:42 PM
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Again, none of these things are something that I actually do. I am 6ft tall and 210 pounds with abs. I have hair. I had braces as a child but havent really had any dental work in the past 10 years. You cannot say that people with severe overbites or underbites do not benefit from jaw surgery. The changes are drastic. 5 million people a year get orthodontic work in the US. If you have an appearance issue with your teeth, its generally caused by functional issues. Most people in the US have teeth …
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 09:37 PM
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How does a nose job have counter effects? People literally get it done in part because their airway is partially blocked. The side effects are positive. Same with braces. Same with dental work. Most hair loss products have zero side effects (Ie a wig or hair transplant has none). Botox is temporary and if its bad it wears off in a few months. Generally, botox looks good and thats why people get it. There are almost no negative counter effects to anything I listed besides steroids.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 09:31 PM
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Looking good shirtless is different from being big and muscular. We have shirts on in most social situations, unless you live in florida, california or some country with a tropical or sub tropical climate. If you have too much type 1 muscle fibers (ie endurance athlete types), its very difficult to put on muscle. Steroids would be beneficial to this group. If youre a sprinter type (ie NFL player, 100 meter track athlete) you will put on muscle with almost no effort. Also, the fact that we are sa…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 09:22 PM
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I know, I was just piggy backing on your comment
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 09:16 PM
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This is provably false. We have scientific studies that quite literally alter facial height and width that prove what women are attracted to. We have mountains of data on height showing that women are uniformly more attracted to guys that are taller than them. We know women are more attracted to guys who earn more money then them. These arent debatable. For every 5'1 Alpha guy you list, I could list 100 guys over 6ft tall who are actually attractive to women. Ive met many alphas throughout my li…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 09:15 PM
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Exactly. My point is we should be encouraging all modern tools of increasing your success. As for the looks department, I stated some examples in my post. But we can deviate further out. Is investing in the stock market cheating because your money is passively increasing? No, its a modern tool at our disposal that we can use to increase wealth Is eating healthy cheating? No, its a modern way to increase our lifespan and health as we age. I can go on with examples, but the point is this: We need …
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 09:11 PM
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Thank you for this comment. This is what this post is intended for. Anecdotes of what guys have done to enhance their appearance. For some reason this has turned into a debate on the importance of looks in the comments
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 09:06 PM
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Im not a black piller either, but lets be honest. Life is easier better looking. Thats why I lift. Thats why most of us lift. We saw improvement in our lives from lifting, and that in part came because our physical appearance was substantially altered. You can do all the other thing the red pill espouses (lift, earn money, get your life in order etc) while simultaneously improving your appearance via modern methods of appearance alteration
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 09:03 PM
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The fact that you go to the dentist and get treatment is considered cheating. So many people have fake teeth that were recommended by dentists. Would you rather walk around without teeth if you lost one? You go to the doctors. Im sure you used medication before. Would you rather risk death to prove that your immune system is "alpha?" Thats great for you that you run barefoot. It has absolutely nothing to do with this post. You are arbitrarily deciding that dentistry is ok, but orthodontics is ch…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 09:00 PM
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Yeah, I feel like they are very similar. We know that the dark triad traits are useful when properly integrated, just like artificial enhancement of physical appearance would also be useful if integrated properly. Virtually all men who are successful with women have some narcism and psychopathy within them. Im not advocating for 10 plastic surgeries and botox in every muscle of your face. But some guys would really benefit from something like veneers or a nose job. Like life altering benefits Ed…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 08:34 PM
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How is this reeking of excuses? Clearly appearance matters, but we absolutely disregard it on this sub rather than telling guys to get a hair transplant, braces, steroids, etc. I basically want to put to bed the "youre born with your genetics" myth. Yeah, in the 1800s and prior you were. Today we have too many modern methods of appearance enhancement for that claim to be valid anymore Sure, "Game" matters. But we act like its the only thing. Your success rate would shoot up drastically if you we…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 08:27 PM
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Have you seen before and after photos of Tom Brady and Elon musk with hair transplants? Have you seen jaw surgery results? Have you seen any juiced guy who has 100k insta followers primarily because he is juiced? Point is, women do not care if you cheated. Does any woman actually care that Tom brady had hair transplants? Or that Arnold was taking more testosterone than 2 grown men combined? No. Half of hollywood has chin implants. They are fucking models while guys like you claim that it is some…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 08:22 PM
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whoever made the comment, just create a new email with a dummy phone number through a vpn and youll get past the shadow ban
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 05:51 PM
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There are different sects of MGTOW. If you had sex with more than 10 women or were divorced rappped, I dont consider that to always be cope within mgtow. A lot of guys do get fucked over by women and tap out of the game. With that being said, the really young guys (ie younger than 23) who claim to be mgtow and are virgins or had sex with 1 or 2 women, then its almost always cope. MGTOW is a last resort. PUA is better in 99% of cases because you still fulfill your natural desire to fuck and be ph…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 05:50 PM
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Not sure why this is downvoted. Nofap does work for some guys. If I stop masturbating, without fail, I get laid within 30 days. Idk why and Im not going to claim superpowers. It could be my urge to ejaculate increases, thus I take more risk (Ie the only time ive ever approached women at the gym has been when on a streak longer than 15 days; I almost always have the urge to go out on a friday and saturday night, etc). It could be pheromones. It could be confidence. I dont know. Point is, it does …
/r/TheRedPill29/06/21 05:02 PM
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Im not sure what the point of this post is. You discovered the red pill? The sexual market grows exponentially for men as they advance up the chain? Youre a mediocre, avg looking guy? Like idk what you want from this. You wont get a pity party. Do something about your situation instead of whining. Go to therapy, work out, develop a better social group, get plastic surgery, literally anything besides whining about it to us
/r/TheRedPill28/06/21 10:26 PM
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I oddly enough never had a woman say anything to me like "Youre too perfect for me" or anything along those lines. I have a 9.5/10 body with a 5/10 face, but a lot of people say Im one of the most masculine people theyve ever met. I get asked if Im a trainer or in the military a lot. I believe a lot of guys who get the "too perfect for me" are general spewing femininity either via looks or personality or activities, and thus the woman sees you as a girlfriend and not a potential mate. Either wom…
/r/TheRedPill28/06/21 03:20 AM
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Yeah it seems to be a combination of factors. Like my badoo account had at least 20 women that were borderline models/were actually models in ukraine. And their insta following was actually pretty high too (like 15-20k plus range). Those matches happen in the US, but as you said, its rare (at least for me). And even when I do get those matches, the women generally arent interested in meeting up. Causal factors are likely obesity (as stated before), but also single motherhood (a ton on the apps..…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/21 04:24 PM
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Ehh I agree with the better pics. Tinder doesnt give a fuck about "jacking up my SMV." Its not possible to do. Its either hot pics or shit pics. SMV in the terms of wealth, social behavior, etc means nothing on apps
/r/TheRedPill27/06/21 04:17 AM
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For whatever reason, europe has better results with dating apps. I actually made a post about this (look at my profile if you want to see the post). I believe its due to obesity, though Im not 100 percent sure. As an experiment, I put my location to london, Kyiv and another european city and my results exploded. Like it was an exponential increase and half the women were legitimately 8s and above. I had something like 50 matches with mostly attractive women in the span of 24 hours (Ukraine was h…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/21 04:14 AM
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Im an avg looking guy (in great shape, avg face) and have gotten laid from dating apps like 7-8 times. With that being said, most of the women were just borderline attractive, not anything worth keeping. I had a few dates with legit 9s, but nothing came from it. Any women who uses a dating app will have a massive ego (in general) and absolutely be talking to at least 20 other guys, if not 100+ in a given month. Really hot girls do not consistently use dating apps. They may download it once, go o…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/21 03:57 AM
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As opposed to sitting in your basement and masturbating culture? Im not saying you need to hook up, but you should pursue what you want and attempt to attain it. You cant tell someone what they do or do not want. If this guy wants to hook up, he should go after it even if he is on the slightly older side for partying. If he lives in a major metro, plenty of people in their 30s and 40s still hook up and party. If his goal is an LTR, he should go after that too. Point being: You have actual things…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/21 03:53 AM
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If you are going to keep a log, go to good looking loser instead. Its a site/forum that is exactly for this: Night game, day time cold approaches, and social circle, as well as just getting your life in order (financially, socially, mentally, etc). Its a pretty awesome site and it has no chance of being taken down like this forum (which could happen at any time). And a lot of guys keep legit logs so theres more accountability. You should go there because more than half the guys who make posts li…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/21 03:50 AM
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lol kay... wtf would you care?
/r/TheRedPill25/06/21 03:32 PM
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The only video games Ive ever played were xbox One/ps2 console games... Not really the gamer type. To each his own but I personally view gaming as a big waste of time
/r/MGTOW24/06/21 05:47 PM
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Cool... idc what you think lol
/r/TheRedPill24/06/21 04:11 PM
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Im pro experimenting with drugs. Im not saying to go out and absolutely do this. But taking a very low dose, basically over the counter level doses, is worth a try imo if you really cant last long
/r/TheRedPill23/06/21 09:58 PM
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For guys that have trouble lasting long, go ask your doctor for low dosage ssri's. I only took them recreationally, but I would last literally 45 minutes to an hour (and sometimes would not cum). You need to take them for a week or so to have a sexual effect (lasting long) and it takes a week or so to go away, but it is truly a game changer
/r/TheRedPill22/06/21 10:37 PM
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If he actually only did that he should post and ask what he explicitly did wrong. If all they have was “he messaged me asking me out on Snapchat/Instagram” then I think the women would be exposed and he could literally sue for defamation. Also would be curious to where this college is. If I had to guess, I’d say the northeast or the west coast. College is also an awful place to hit on girls now. Comedians explicitly avoid college towns because of shit like this and general wokeness. The one shin…
/r/MGTOW16/06/21 11:24 PM
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Is that really you Friedrich Nietzsche??
/r/TheRedPill16/06/21 04:42 AM
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But if you look at the actual data where this comes from, the coefficient is not that strong and mostly flat. https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/8/eaap9815 There’s a steep decline for women. For men it’s stable, which indicates higher variability (ie age is mostly irrelevant) While it’s true, it only increases by about .05 to .1 while women decline by >.3
/r/TheRedPill16/06/21 01:14 AM
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A lot is a lot then. “1,000+” written like this literally means 1000 plus, especially when using exact numbers prior
/r/TheRedPill15/06/21 11:58 PM
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Yeah that’s why I’m not a fan of “peak” years. You can peak at 19. You can peak at 45. The point is, if you are entirely dependent on natural facial and hair genetics, you’re going to peak like women peak. If you lift, develop social skills, dress well, make enough money etc, you will likely peak at the 30-50 range. If you’re the classic guy though who doesn’t lift, plays Xbox, never cold approaches, sits at home all day, etc, you aren’t going to magically peak at 40. I’m curious about you. Wher…
/r/TheRedPill15/06/21 09:32 PM
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You’re not properly adding and subtracting value. For a hypothetical smv, there are net gains and losses. For the sake of argument, let’s make up something: You have wrinkles (-10) and your hair is thinning (-10). However, you’re jacked now (+15) and your beard actually grows in without patches (+15). Therefore, in aggregate, your smv increased plus 10. Like no woman wants to fuck a 10 year old kid. There skin isn’t saggy. So what. They have no other sexually attractive features or social capita…
/r/TheRedPill15/06/21 07:45 PM
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You’re only noting facial attractiveness. From a “sex standpoint”, hip to shoulder ratio (ie being jacked) has been proven to be the number one factor of reproduction among men. Further, male sexual attraction is much different than female attraction. Men get judged as a whole: facial aesthetics, height, body fat percentage, general physical fitness/do you look jacked, general social capital (ie why bartenders get laid and software engineers do not, roughly speaking), general wealth/potential fu…
/r/TheRedPill15/06/21 06:21 PM
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How old are you? 1000 plus seems insanely high. Even if you were 45 years old, we are talking 67 women a year, or a new woman every 5 days. The reason I say this is bullshit is because let’s say at you’re peak you have a rotation of 5 women who are all 8s and above. You’d primarily stick with that rotation for months, if not the entire year. You don’t fuck a new hot woman that often because 8s just don’t exist or are sexually available that often. So even if this was the case, having sex with wo…
/r/TheRedPill15/06/21 06:14 PM
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Hair transplant technology is legitimate today. It costs a decent amount, but it actually works (look up Tom Brady and Elon musk). Or just don’t be a pussy and shave your head and get jacked. The jacked bald look always works well. Jacked and bald - good looking and tough. Fat and bald - old fat guy
/r/TheRedPill15/06/21 06:12 PM
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I don’t like this “peak” nonsense. It’s more that age is irrelevant for men up to about 45/55 (depending on genetics, fitness and health). You will peak at 23 if you’re a frat star who gets fat and turns into an alcoholic after graduating. You’ll peak at 45 if you’re an entrepreneur with an Instagram following of 100k plus. Point is, you won’t magically “peak” by being a fat 45 year old loser or a fat 20 year loser who jerks off in his dorm room all the time. You control the peak
/r/TheRedPill15/06/21 06:10 PM
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Always good content Andy... I’m 27 and I have had the exact same feelings you had at 28. How old are you now btw? Your site is incredibly motivational and insightful
/r/TheRedPill15/06/21 06:07 PM
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We are forgetting the part of the marriage contract that is the number one reason as to why. Women are sleeping around infinitely more today. But they are only sleeping around with a handful of men. When it comes time to get “serious” aka, when they can no longer attract top men, they want the guy they ignored in the past to commit to them. It is vital for all men on here to never engage in a serious relationship with a woman who is over 30. You can have sex with her, but by no means enter a mar…
/r/MGTOW15/06/21 04:13 AM
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That’s what’s wrong about the theory. Too many guys think that just sitting there will make them more valuable. You don’t get stronger, you don’t earn more money, you don’t develop social skills, you don’t develop social value etc by just sitting there. I think Dave portnoy is an extreme example of this. He currently is running train on Instagram model after Instagram model. They are all 25 or younger. He’s 45. If he didn’t build social capital for the past 25 years he would be an old fat guy fu…
/r/MGTOW15/06/21 02:21 AM
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This is pretty inaccurate based on user data. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1200234/most-popular-dating-apps-worldwide-by-number-of-downloads/ Hinge isn’t even in the top 10 world wide. It’s popular in major metros (nyc, San Fran etc) but if you venture to the south (Texas, Florida Tennessee etc) tinder and bumble are used much more. Instagram isn’t a dating app and will only work for guys that have clout/large social circles, in which case it’s better than apps
/r/TheRedPill14/06/21 10:26 PM
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Yeah, him and Derek are the best pua guys because they basically reject all pua cringe routines. Like they basically advise to just have a very general framework for starting a conversation (ie nice guy direct opener: “I never do this and am pretty shy...” or indirect opener: “how do you like that computer?” “Where’d you get your shoes” etc) and to just have natural conversation after that. No weird negging or cringe pua tactics. They are also realistic about “success.” To them, 1 out of 10 girl…
/r/TheRedPill14/06/21 10:21 PM
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Honestly sounds pretty miserable. Why do you even want more money if you don’t plan on having relationships with other humans? A lot of us on here have gone through what you’re going through or are going through it currently. It can get better, but you’ll need to try a hell of a lot harder than you are now. Do you really just want to invest in crypto and not be a “wage slave” while being miserable in all other areas of your life? Would you actually resent these women if they didn’t reject you? A…
/r/TheRedPill14/06/21 10:14 PM
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Lol you’re a single guy I’d assume. You have no expenses. Going to a bar is free if you don’t drink, and 10-30 bucks to nurse 2 beers for the entire night if you’re smart with it. Again, You don’t actually have to drink. I’ve gone to bars plenty of times just drinking the free water. However, for the sake of argument, Let’s go with the middle number: 20*6 is 120 dollars a month. You can’t make an extra 120 a month? That’s a Saturday driving Uber. You’re a single guy. You have time to work an ext…
/r/TheRedPill14/06/21 05:46 PM
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This is honestly not that bad. I would never do it. However, Widows are in a different category than the rest of single moms imo. If a lady gets knocked up by some rando bartender and then marries this guy two years later, that is the definition of cuck. This is slightly different though being that the dad died and it sounds like the woman wouldn’t have been on the market (alpha fux, beta bux type of thing) if that wasn’t the case
/r/MGTOW13/06/21 04:12 AM
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You literally just need to be a boring, confused old guy during the day. That is it. And be the boring confused old guy for 2-3 minutes before remotely changing the conversation to anything personal. If you decided to go direct, be Bill freaking beta. It will work in a lot of cases. The wink and final line is cringe worthy and will work on about .01% of women
/r/TheRedPill13/06/21 03:08 AM
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If you are truly nervous on hitting on girls, your best bet is indirect approaches. They work best in the day time though. You won’t have as much success with it at night. Just act as a confused old man... “excuse me, how do you like that laptop?” When you see the girl in the coffee shop. You don’t even have to ask for a number on the first 4-5 attempts. Just pretend you’re interested in something she’s doing or has etc... indirect doesn’t work everywhere, but it can work in a lot of places (gym…
/r/TheRedPill13/06/21 03:06 AM
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Neil Strauss was a bald, 5’6, skinny, ugly 32 year old when he started pick up. Within 10 years, he married a model and slept with hundreds of women. You have no excuses
/r/TheRedPill13/06/21 02:53 AM
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Exactly. You can’t go from virgin loser to fucking Instagram modes overnight. It takes years of commitment in multiple domains to achieve that. Good looking loser is a site that I recently found that shows how flawed the thinking really is. Its basically the story of a handful of alpha like bodybuilder types who wasted years of their lives not getting laid or being in awful relationships because they didnt put themselves out there. Chris Deoudes looks like a quasi chad (face isnt great but overa…
/r/TheRedPill13/06/21 02:13 AM
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Lol that is correct, but you’re failing to take into account how viscous life was. Insanely high probability of being killed prior to the age of 10, males were essentially hunter gatherers and tribal warriors (ie the guys who get the food but also the guys who get viscous to murdered). I’m not saying you’re wrong, but we are assuming that female were selecting rather than the top men having preferential access. They aren’t the same thing. What I mean by that. Let’s say giga chad ran the tribe. I…
/r/TheRedPill13/06/21 02:09 AM
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Ehh I’m going to disagree on this one. A lot of men pride themselves on “stem is hard.” Sure, getting the degree is more difficult than a sociology degree. But the jobs are generally really boring and easy. If you have a choice to do something else with similar pay, you’d do it. Further, men in general like things, while women, in general, like humans. I fall on the like humans side more even though I’m a guy. I worked in software for years and have a Cs degree from an above average school with …
/r/MGTOW12/06/21 11:12 PM
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I’ve lifted much longer than him, but still, his stats are awful. I’m 5’10 and 200 pounds with a six pack, done natural (besides creatine). Look at any elite cross fitter his height. They have the body type you want today. For his height, he should be between 200 and 235 pounds (and can easily still have a six pack). I always lift heavy with high intensity. The OPs advice is truly garbage. I have friends who don’t lift weights who are his height and heavier that still have a six pack
/r/TheRedPill12/06/21 10:31 PM
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Im curious at what you mean by self improvement? Getting in shape and making money are the easy parts and the least rewarding. Creating social skills and the social life that is needed to get laid is much more difficult and much more rewarding
/r/TheRedPill12/06/21 08:31 PM
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Men are becoming radicalized with tinder data. I can’t keep saying this enough. If you aren’t getting laid from apps, get off the fucking apps. You likely have no social life, you likely haven’t given cold approach a shot (and hey, I approached 1 girl in the mall and she said no doesn’t count as fucking trying... if you do that 100 times and you don’t get a phone number, then I’ll have some sympathy), you likely don’t go out to bars 3 times a week, you likely don’t attend social events that have…
/r/TheRedPill12/06/21 08:14 PM
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Possibly... I ran this experiment years ago... you’ll likely get banned or shadow banned now. I tried it a year ago and there seems to be differential swipe detection built in (ie was getting 10% right swipes, now 5%) And I would need to read up more on ELO. Regardless, the left swipes were more for starting with a fresh profile than anything else
/r/TheRedPill12/06/21 06:08 PM
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I agree, but this situation specifically, it was due to fat reduction, not “ehh I got confident.” Two normal sized, average looking guys, confidence will be a differentiator. For a 300lb plus guy, you aren’t going to be rolling in women unless you’re famous or obnoxiously rich. The average sized guy with less confidence will do better
/r/TheRedPill12/06/21 05:54 PM
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You getting likes does not equate to a higher ELO. Like I said, it’s not entirely an elo score anymore, though parts of it still definitely exist. Try the model switch and you’ll understand
/r/TheRedPill12/06/21 05:51 PM
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“Can we split the check?” - “I was warned about abusive MEN!!” Lol 😂 what the actual fuck
/r/MGTOW12/06/21 07:09 AM
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Lol 😂 it will be outsourced when? In 20 years? Cool, you’re 40 by then. And have saved up 20 years worth of income and likely hate accounting with a passion by then. The only way you screwed up is that accounting is insanely boring for most people and you’ll likely want to quit in 3-6 years. Hopefully you’ll learn business lessons or you’re one of the rare people that actually like it. And you’re partially right. Turbo tax accounting (ie random dude needs to do his taxes will be dumb to hire you…
/r/MGTOW12/06/21 07:00 AM
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Haha k. Don’t respond to the thread then
/r/TheRedPill12/06/21 05:17 AM
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Lol
/r/seduction12/06/21 04:23 AM
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Yes women like muscles. But many body builders don’t actually use what they have cultivated. You still need a social life, cold approach (night and day) and take great pictures (for apps) to have success. It’s great to have, but you still need to be social. The skinny drug addict will do better than the bodybuilder if the drug addict is partying 3 days a week while the bodybuilder sits at home
/r/seduction12/06/21 04:21 AM
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Here’s the thing with cold approach. There is data on this. The top guys, top tier guys, can bat about .100 when cold approaching (ie getting laid or something sexual eventually from the encounter). They can bat about .400-.500 in getting phone numbers. So, the top guys, who have done thousands of approaches, are getting rejected more than half the time. You claim that you haven’t done it a lot. I’ll also assume you’re average looking. And your below your peak years (we’ll assume peak is 25-35 f…
/r/seduction12/06/21 04:15 AM
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Again, what is your point? It’s the bottom .1 percent of the population. I said “bottom 25 percent” and you bring in “people with an iq of 50”.... it’s irrelevant
/r/TheRedPill12/06/21 01:11 AM
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50th percentile iq? That is most people... they don’t need help
/r/TheRedPill11/06/21 11:27 PM
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Lol this is accurate and getting downvoted. Tinder is insanely misleading. This idea that you need to be “top 10 percent” is poisonous. Tinder is 80 percent men. Of course you need to be top 10 percent on there because there are literally no women using it. How you actually get laid: cold approach, social circle, and online. Be high in the dominance hierarchies in your social circle. Go out 3 plus times a week. Talk to women during the day. You don’t need to be “top 10 percent” to do this. Women…
/r/TheRedPill11/06/21 11:04 PM
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Obesity statistics for men become complicated. Women it’s more straight forward due to lack of testosterone, physical work and weight lifting. You need to realize that these stats are bmi. I have a 6 pack abs and honestly look like a fitness model below my head. I’d be considered borderline ovese. I have a BMI between 28 and 29. My body fat is about 10 percent+-3 depending on time of year, weight, diet cardio etc. regardless, I’m always considered overweight. My doctors even tell me “sabanMiles,…
/r/TheRedPill11/06/21 10:59 PM
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Not being poor is incredibly easy. The only people who have a legitimately tough time are people with iqs in the bottom 25 percent. That’s assuming they actively avoid jobs like being the school janitor, being a garbage man, etc, which actually pay well in the long run. Everyone else really has to try hard to be poor. Like actively try. I can see people losing everything on a business or investments, but those generally aren’t the people complaining
/r/TheRedPill11/06/21 10:49 PM
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But that’s sort of the point I’m making here. If I were you, I would let the apps run in background. You aren’t getting matches because your profile is so deep in the card stack that women aren’t even seeing your profile. The algorithm functions as an absolute optimization of the 1 percenter due to the nature of the apps. I actually plan on documenting this experiment this year. It will be the following: 100 right swipes on tinder after the noon boost. This will be followed by 100 night approach…
/r/TheRedPill11/06/21 07:56 PM
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I’d assume that right now (or at least 2020) was peak difficulty... your tier one guys all likely downloaded the apps because there was literally nothing to do
/r/TheRedPill11/06/21 07:03 PM
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Millennials is too large of an age group to group everyone into the same strata. Your group (late 30s early 40s) is entirely different from my group (mid lates 20s). The single population of dateable people is much larger in my bracket. People in cities routinely go out multiple nights a week pre 35, and sometimes later ages depending on lifestyle and culture (ie you live in Manhattan... going out is much easier). Regardless, we can debate this for hours and I really don’t feel like doing it. It…
/r/TheRedPill11/06/21 06:45 PM
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Again, online does not equal dating apps. Snapchat and Instagram are considered “online” and that is not what this post is about. Further, that likely includes all couples. Over the age of 35-45, yes, online is better. Pre 35-40 range, it’s not happening. I’m in my 20s. No one my age age that I know has met their wife online. Older people, yes, but again, we are talking hitting about the 40 years and above range. Most people on this sub are 20-40, and thus, don’t fall into that category
/r/TheRedPill11/06/21 05:11 PM
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I never said it was entirely useless to the point that it shouldn’t be used. You said that I said that. I literally made this point in my first “fact” (if you ever got laid and weren’t in the to x percent, then it’s not entirely useless). The staffer fact was that your profile is being hidden, not the matches you get. It is useless to base your entire dating game around OLD. Being a model isn’t top 30 percent. It’s within the top 1 percent. And yes, staggering for online dating, relative to what…
/r/TheRedPill11/06/21 03:44 PM
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I didn’t say that it’s “only low quality men.” You said “number one way” to meet women for guys. It’s true not true at all. It’s used, but certainly not the number one way Even online, if you used to be an athlete or frat star and have a huge following (let’s say 5k plus) Instagram and Snapchat are better than conventional apps
/r/TheRedPill11/06/21 03:38 PM
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I got jacked and am pretty obnoxious about showing it off. Shirtless whenever possible. Dress douchey, though tbh, I always wanted to dress the way I do now but was worried about what people say. Cut off shirts, short shorts, baseball hats, obnoxious socks, Etc. Some girls call me a fuck boy or fratty thinking they are insulting me. They do not realize that it is quite literally the biggest compliment a man can get. I’m actually not a fuck boy, but the fact that in their head I am means that I’m…
/r/seduction11/06/21 06:08 AM
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It depends.... I’ve lived in that area... you do get more “quantity”, but it’s still mostly 7s and below for the most part. Yes, you can match with some really hot women with 10k plus insta followers, but it’s a rarity rather than the norm... I know ig count isn’t completely accurate, there are outliers, etc... but I’ve generally found that true 8s are normally 5k or above on the gram... the 1-5k are your 6 and 7s
/r/TheRedPill11/06/21 04:12 AM
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We know it’s you Jordan Peterson
/r/TheRedPill11/06/21 03:14 AM
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They are the number one way for guys without social circles, guys who don’t cold approach, and guys who are low value... the “high value” guys I know aren’t meeting women through apps. Go on any college campus. Frats and athletes run the social hierarchies, and they aren’t meeting women on apps. In real life, Wall Street guys, entrepreneurs, musicians, bartenders, club promoters etc... not meeting women on apps
/r/TheRedPill11/06/21 01:54 AM
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I agree... the only time I can ever see it being useful for most men is if the demographics came to be in our favor, or at least 50-50. And the app would have to have an interface like POF rather than being swipe only. But that’s unlikely to happen anytime soon
/r/TheRedPill11/06/21 01:19 AM
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I agree... but I’ve seen many men blame “hypergamy” for bad results on tinder and other dating apps. I’m just giving an analysis on why it’s likely not “hypergamy” and more to do with choices anyone would make given the demographics and how the algorithm actually works. My point is yes, hypergamy exists. However, it’s not what is the actual cause of the massive imbalance of choices and matches between the sexes on dating apps
/r/TheRedPill11/06/21 01:16 AM
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Good. I like the pics. From being a bitch to getting bitches. All that matters are bicep veins. Everything else is second
/r/TheRedPill07/06/21 03:50 AM
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You literally contradicted your thesis in points 3 and 4. Point 3: “men will divorce wives when they become rich and marry a hot 20 year old” point 4: “women only care about looks” - both cannot simultaneously be true. In reality, women care about aggregate social capital. That can show up in wealth or looks, and in many other forums (poor musician, fat comedian, night club promoter, athlete, etc) but the abstract concept is neither point you suggested and it is actually aggregate social capital
/r/TheRedPill06/06/21 11:30 PM
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Lol the fact that you are hooking up with girls on fetlife tells me all I need to know. Legitimate 8s+ do not use fetlife. Congrats dude... you’re fucking 5-6s... like I said, most guys consider that a time suck. If you were meeting girls through Ig or a social job that you had, or ducked hundreds of women off of tinder, I’d believe that you’d be fucking hot girls. But you aren’t, which tells me you’re fucking 5s. To each his own
/r/TheRedPill06/06/21 09:41 PM
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This is provably false... men on survey data are having the least amount of sex of all time (from when we started recording data on this). Tinder data shows that if you don’t have a top 10 percent profile, you get barely any matches and are fighting with a ton of guys over land whales. Yes, men prefer to hookups. Obviously. But that is only the case if you have your pick of women. By the definition of hypergamy and all of the known Data we have, most men in the US are not part of that select gro…
/r/TheRedPill06/06/21 09:18 PM
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I agree to a point with what youre getting at. If you are a top 5% (maybe even 10%) er, the US is a good place. However, by definition, most men are not (90-95%). If we take this sub as a normal distribution of smv for males, 90 percent of people posting and reading would not be in the category you describe. Furthermore, I would say most guys want marriage. The only ones who dont are the ones that have an ability to consistently hook up with chicks who are 8+s. I can count on one hand the amount…
/r/TheRedPill06/06/21 08:05 PM
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Obesity rate in Japan, and all of Asia, is in the single digits. Thus almost all women are at least dateable from a physical standpoint. Im not saying they are models, but being skinny or in shape automatically puts 99% of women at a 6 or above. Are you an expat or were you born in Japan? https://data.worldobesity.org/rankings/?age=a&sex=f Obesity rate for women in Japan - 3.86 For the US - 38.6 You literally have 10x the amount of dateable women in that country
/r/TheRedPill06/06/21 05:20 PM
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Thats where I disagree. In public and real life, you are correct. However, apps have made it possible that these women get pumped and dumped for a night by avg looking men. That in their mind means that they are dateable. They dont realize that the guy really just wanted to fuck something for that night and was desperate, so she got the call. I have even fucked a fat chick once. It was my biggest regret sexually, but I did it. So there are men who are doing it and adding to this cycle
/r/TheRedPill06/06/21 05:16 PM
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Yeah I hear you. The obesity rate for both men and women has increased like you said, but the key difference is being overweight matters much less for men. You can easily be a top tier male and be overweight; You simply cannot if you are a woman. A simple proof would be NFL players and rappers. Every NFL player would be considered overweight on a bmi scale. Rappers, more than any other musical artist group, are ugly. Yet the vast majority have tier 1 access to women. IE Jay Z, P Diddy, 50 cent, …
/r/TheRedPill06/06/21 05:14 PM
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Doubtful to happen. The fact that a landwhale can go on tinder and get 300 matches a day or make an only fans and masturbate on camera for paying customers means this isnt going away anytime soon
/r/TheRedPill05/06/21 05:42 PM
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Ive gone over this in the comments a lot. Should have been more clear. Im referring to Europe as a whole. Basically all of the countries east of France and Spain and South of Scandanavia. The Northwest is American like in terms of wokeness, but not in obesity or single motherhood rates, which matter a lot too
/r/TheRedPill05/06/21 01:42 AM
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ehh... Its culture more than politics. Im a capitalist. With that being said, you cant stop corporations from bowing to cancel culture. Sure, you can try to enforce law for firing someone for political beliefs. But thats almost an impossible road to go down, because all beliefs could be deemed political. I would say its more of people voting with their wallets and not paying for useless university programs, buying from corporations that hate America, and turning off watching any political activi…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 11:04 PM
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Haha yes poor and lonely... keep priding yourself on your income homie... it will not get you laid. The fact that you are spending time arguing with a stranger shows youre as low as I am on your imaginary totem pole
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 09:23 PM
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If your teeth are solid, get a jaw assessment. The orthodontist will be honest with you, because there job is literally assessing teeth and jaw abnormalities. It will give you motivation to save up money and get it fixed. Further, there are othodontic appliances that can rotate the jaw. Look up tads, rubber band appliances, herbst appliance etc. They are all minor compared to surgery, but youll still see some improvement
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 07:23 PM
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Very very few people are racist. Its the most overblown thing in our country. The elite like to call out racism where there is none to climb the elite dominance hierarchy
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 07:13 PM
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It still adds to the overall inflation due to migration behaviors. IE, guys still need to date in suburban and rural areas, where skinny women really exist in few numbers. Further, men, like women, only notice what is attractive to them day to day when scanning the general environment. It may seem like its only skinny women, but its likely that we only see skinny women (Ie look up the monkey experiment for perception). An inflation is occurring, but it would take a full blown analysis to determi…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 07:09 PM
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Multiple things: Youre 5'7 and 193 lbs. Unless you are benching 300+lbs, squatting 400+lbs and deadlifting 500+lbs, you are fat. Id suggest losing weight first and then bulking up while lifting weights. Unless you carry a lot of muscle easily, which it sounds like you dont, Id say you need to drop at least 40lbs, maybe 50lbs, and then have building muscle as the primary focus. This is key because you just said that you have no jawline. You might actually have one (cant tell without a picture) bu…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 06:58 PM
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Its feedback loops. I dont believe you suddenly developed confidence. You literally stated "people started glancing at me and I wasnt fat anymore." The attractive thing is you arent fat, not self confidence. You might have some now, but dont kid yourself. If you weighed 300+ still you wouldnt have any confidence, and for good reason
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 04:25 PM
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ehh, the above argument is not really for "easy lays." Its a lot more for marriage and child bearing. You cant have ample amounts of both in a culture. Its either you have a culture that marries, or you have one that doesnt. Asia Marries. Eastern Europe Marries. Yes, Im making generalizations and if you go to major cities you can find anything, anywhere For the reasons cited above, the Asian "easy lay" is very overstated outside of major city hubs like Manilla or Bangkok. They are living in mult…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 04:20 PM
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Thats sort of my point. The countries you named are the northwest countries. Outside of the uk (It still has a decent talent pool due to london, though the wokeness is getting bad), avoid those countries. The south is less woke (spain, portugal, Italy, etc) and the central and eastern bloc really is not relative to the US (Ie everything to the right of France and Germany on a map)
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 04:11 PM
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It still could be better depending on your country. If you actually wanted to live a lifestyle where you slept with a lot of women, it would be better than India, for example. But if you just wanted a family and to not take part in this game, at this point, Id stay in India if you could afford it. India is just a random example, but I think you get my point. Youd need to do an analysis on what you want and where you could achieve that with the least amount of trouble, then choose from there. If …
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 04:07 PM
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Hahah omg... what makes this hilarious is that you actually are the software engineer that Im describing by looking through your post history. Haha I know software engineers who make the equivalent of you exactly where you live. They tell me its a sausage fest. Life might be good for you. But stop with the lie that youre rolling in women. Youre the stereotypical software guy who thinks he is because he got a few tinder matches. Good luck living in your false reality
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 04:03 PM
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State wide - Florida... though California and Texas would likely be very very competitive With that being said, any City will have hot women. Ive lived mostly in the northeast. NYC, DC, Philly, Boston all have attractive women. The woke infection rate may vary. NYC has the most of the 4 stated above, but that may be a function of how large it is. Florida is really rural. It has 4 main metros (the city and surrounding smaller cities/burbs) - Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville - Gainesville and T…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 03:55 PM
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haha shhhh.... I cant give away my identity.... Yeah, thats my fundamental reason for marriage. 40-50% chance of divorce? Yes. Divorce rape? Sure. But I realize that my older family is going to die off in 30, maybe 40 years at the latest... Ill still have likely 40 years left to live. Id want to have family and not be the old loner.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 03:48 PM
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Hahaha omg... this is the brainwashed west fellas. A woman believes that men find fatties attractive. Lady, Victoria secret models make 10 million plus dollars a year? Do you want to know what happens if they gain even a little bit of weight? They are no longer victoria secret models
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 03:44 PM
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Again, parts of europe yes. The thing that actually matters though is true obesity rates. If that is held in check, then w/e. But many times body positivity comes along with increased obesity
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 03:41 PM
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Why youre citing cost of living and salary adjustments? Idk. Stick to the original argument of how women are so easy for you because you make x amount of money. The reason you cant is because its not true. You didnt suddenly put on muscle. You didnt suddenly grow 4 inches. You didnt suddenly become socially relevant. Ya know, the things that actually get you laid. 350k is what you claimed to make. Not 900. Its not relevant. My point is the same. Bill gates married Melinda gates for a reason. Aga…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 03:37 PM
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Haha k... whatever helps you get through the day boss... This entire discussion is about inflated and deflated sexual market values.... Your rat brain "But youre not ALPHA MAN!!!" I just have a sneaking suspicion that youre one of these gamer guys
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 03:28 PM
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Lol 😂 women are fawning over you now because you make 350? I highly doubt it. I worked on Wall Street for years with guys making that on a bonus during a bad year. The average back office upper manager was making upper 200k-low 300k. None of them were rolling in women. The front office big earners? Yeah... but they are making 1 million plus a year. You might pride yourself on it, but it’s not a lot of money in terms of fuck you type of money. Western women could give 2 shits about your income, u…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 06:50 AM
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good points and lolol at SEAmaxx... I like that term
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 06:00 AM
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I doubt that Id make substantially more money with the few hours wasted doing this.... Im doing better than almost all of you guys here financially, but thanks for the advice... Ill pass. If you actually had knowledge about women, youd realize that money is marginal after about 60k and becomes relevant again when you make 500k plus a year... Thats why your local bartender likely gets laid a hell of a lot more than you my friend
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 05:57 AM
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Do you live in India (like born there and still live there) or from India and live elsewhere now?
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 05:26 AM
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The radical left leaning women are generally obese and or post wall, so your assumption is likely accurate
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 04:55 AM
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We need to try to find data on this. I know it wouldnt be a perfect set (ie multitudes of reasons not to divorce, etc) but I find this hard to believe. For example, a vietnam girl who grew up in vietnam isnt going to be riding the cock carousel like they do here based on the culture. There is no college party culture there. They live with family for the most part so they cant be running through multiple guys a month without the family saying "wtf is going on." Multigenerational living is incredi…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 04:34 AM
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I would assume this is the vast majority of Europe just based off the data. We have attractive women here too, they are just filled with fat
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 04:20 AM
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I agree with this too. If you cant get a religious girl, go foreign
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 04:19 AM
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I agree. A lot of people in the US say the same shit. "Asian women have great genetics!" Nah, they just dont get fucked up 3 times a week for four years and develop borderline alcoholism (as a group... I know there are outliers) and have a culture that fat shames.... Why I think my florida theory (they are more attractive) is accurate. The culture doesnt fat shame them, but you sure as hell dont want to be the fat chick in a bikini year round
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 04:17 AM
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Which is awful in itself that we as a society are even attaching non marginal value
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 04:06 AM
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To each his own. Most guys dont do that, hence relative function. Just based on your numbers, I feel like you should try more in real life. But thats just my opinion. Those arent top 10 percent numbers, thus youre selling yourself short by what you could attract in real life. And I dont mean that as an insult. My numbers above arent top 10 percent either. But youd know if you were. I know a couple guys who are and they literally have 100s of matches, not the numbers we have
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 04:05 AM
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Yeah city matters too. Population has to be somewhat controlled. Swiping in London will obviously get you more matches than swiping in rural France. I did control it somewhat by only choosing major cities. Further, different countries use different apps. Ie, if you went to south america, no one uses tinder. They use badoo. Youd need to research the country first to get a clear picture on app popularity too. Badoo seems to be popular in certain European countries. China has its own app entirely, …
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 03:00 AM
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The primary argument was obesity. As for the fatherless part, I dont know how the data is aggregated to make a comment. The avg state prison length is 1.3 years. County is less than that. Federal is likely higher. Meaning when data is collected, not all of the prisoners in a given year are in prison at the time. Furthermore, that assumes that women select prisoners as mates at an exponentially higher rate than a non prisoner for that to be the case (for it to have any statistical significance). …
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 02:56 AM
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Lol Im noticing this too. I dont know how to feel about it. Im mid 20s, so we are "getting older." And some of my friends were chad like in high school and college. Half are marrying borderline land whales. I dont get it. The way I rank it is is bad marriage < Single < Good Marriage. If shes fat now, she isnt going to be skinny at 40 dog
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 02:47 AM
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I will if I find a suitable person. At this point likely a foreign wife. I want kids. Ive been borderline homeless before and have made a shit ton of money (150k+ a year for a mid 20s guy is decent) at different points in my life. I could honestly live on nothing. Im pretty minimalistic. Id highly prefer to have a wife and a lot of kids. Just how I am as a person. Life is inherently risky. To offset the risk, take smarter risks
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 02:45 AM
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Its actually a known historical fact that this is the NUMBER 1 way to make societies collapse. Why do polygamous societies not exist? They've been tried hundreds of times in the past. However, they all die out. This is nothing new. Its happened to great civilizations (Rome) and hundreds of small ones. This sub is anti Jordan Peterson, but he has multiple youtube videos on the topic of unhinged hypergamy and how they cause societies to crumble, become psychotic, and ultimately become ultra violen…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 02:41 AM
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And this actually goes along with wokeness, which I forgot to put in my post. The more woke we become, the less we deal with objective reality and the more we delve into positive short term emotional responses instead. Telling someone they're fat isnt woke. Its why its not allowed in America. In EU, its allowed. They are liberal, but again, not as woke as the US has become. If the US every implemented universal healthcare, it would be discrimination to charge more for someone being overweight. A…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 02:36 AM
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Exactly. Ive seen a lot of people here say moving is "cope." Nah dude, its being smart. Why try to play an un winnable game when you can move to a place where the culture is better, women are better and life in general is just less insane
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 02:26 AM
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I agree that rates are rising, but I have a suspicion its faster for women due to BMI being the indicator. I lift a lot. More men lift and put on muscle, by substantial margins. Women dont. The ones who do would only make a very marginal difference in the data. Lifting in the US is so popular for men that it could possibly swing the data multiple percentage points. We'd need body fat % markers to truly have an answer for men. Further, women value aggregate social value a lot more than physical a…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 02:21 AM
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Yeah, its difficult to obtain objective results for many reasons (day of the week swiping, active users that day, subjectivity of what I deemed "attractive" (though not fat was a pretty objective factor)). More than Double the matches in 3 countries, while those countries have a smaller user base than the US, does imo indicated a trend of massive inflation of female value in the US (vs the UK) With the Asian thing, I actually see that as a positive (I am white too). You are literally an Alpha in…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 02:18 AM
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Further, we'd need to cite body fat percentage. Weight lifting is incredibly popular among men atm. Ive gone to gyms on Friday nights in the past. 30 guys to 1-2 women. Most of these men would be in the overweight, but not obese, category. Women do not put on muscle like men. The proper measurement would be body fat percentage. But currently thats too complicated and expensive, so we just go by bmi indicators Edit: and holy fuck - 166 (170 from another article I just read) pounds for the average…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 02:09 AM
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I feel like its worse in the countryside than the cities. The only positive is less wokeism. But honestly, being not woke doesnt make you dateable. The 4 main things needed in a single woman is 1. Dont be fat 2. Dont be woke 3. Be under the age of 30 4. Dont have kids. The intersection of that in the US is so incredibly rare at the moment, and its barely a standard
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 02:06 AM
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That goes against this thesis though. Asia and central and eastern europe are not countries that one would consider rich, nor one would consider dirt poor. They are middle ground countries for the most part. The women there seem to be of higher caliber than American in general. WITHIN the US, US women may migrate there. But we are talking globally here.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 02:02 AM
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Ive been writing and researching a lot lately due to what Ive seen with American life for the past few years. Some of it is truly disheartening. I still cant get over the online dating experiment and the astounding results. Funny that you say ukraine because in my experiment that country had the most beautiful women per match, with ample matches. I take that result as function of what real life must be like over there (never thought Id be thinking about to go to countries bordering the old sovie…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/21 02:00 AM
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I doubt it. The "healthcare system" does nothing in relation to food choice, how much you exercise, societal acceptance of overweight people (which Asians outright reject... Girls I know were literally sent to "fat camps" as kids from countries like china and vietnam before they immigrated to the US because their parents were wealthy and thought they were overweight. They were thinner then 90% of Americans)
/r/TheRedPill03/06/21 11:41 PM
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Im not sure what point you are making here. The topic being discussed is female value inflation in the US based off of obesity. I know of no men or stats that show that men are afraid of women coming after them when armed. It is a fantasy
/r/TheRedPill03/06/21 11:38 PM
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But here in lies your problem, even if that is the case for you. Ive lived in some of these cities before. Most are filled with hardcore leftists that fall into the woke category. Secondly, the data is still the data. All I get from what you are saying is that yes, attractive women exist, but their valuations are inflated. You may see a lot, but you likely only notice the attractive ones
/r/TheRedPill03/06/21 11:35 PM
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Great. Women value body shape and body fat percentage magnitudes less than men. Therefore its mostly irrelevant
/r/TheRedPill03/06/21 11:33 PM
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non-burqas You referenced seeing muslims. You cannot make another strawman and say I brought that into the discussion
/r/TheRedPill03/06/21 10:05 PM
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At least for me, I see large swaths of overweight women whod be really attractive if theyd stop eating. Dating apps have this stat that men favor asians more than any race. They call it a bias. I call it we dont want to date fat women, and asian women are mostly in shape and thin. Curious as to what countries youve been to
/r/TheRedPill03/06/21 10:03 PM
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lol... This is sort of my point. For a US example, you cant say that a senator from Alabama or New York is the objective pulse of the country. They are too far right or left to be. You need to look at the data set as a whole
/r/TheRedPill03/06/21 09:41 PM
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I agree, but it will take 30-50 years for the westernization to completely take place, not anytime soon for our own purposes (0-20 years for most men on this forum)
/r/TheRedPill03/06/21 09:40 PM
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Again, this is left leaning. The data is pretty clear on obesity and single motherhood rates in these areas a relative to the US. The "I see muslim people" is not an argument for a place being super woke. Further, the only data sources we have show that Americans are vastly more open to open borders than almost all of europe... so if your argument is that, the data just doesnt support it. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/12/in-views-of-diversity-many-europeans-are-less-positive-than…
/r/TheRedPill03/06/21 09:39 PM
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Lol, again, you are referencing Scandinavia and asserting that all of europe is Scandinavia. They are not. Ukraine, Greece, Poland, Switzerland etc are all part of Europe. They are not on the same planet of wokeness as the Scandinavians. You are making a straw man argument here. If I say "europe," you cant come back with, "well Sweden does x." Cool. Sweden isnt europe
/r/TheRedPill03/06/21 09:31 PM
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Solid analysis
/r/TheRedPill03/06/21 09:21 PM
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Scandinavia, yes... Eastern Europe, No... the rest, somewhere in the middle. Western Europe will have its wokes. But there are less of them. And they arent fat. This plays into the aggregate of more available women, and thus a deflated value relative to America
/r/TheRedPill03/06/21 09:20 PM
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Scandanavia isnt all of Europe. Eastern and southern Europe is clearly more right wing from a wokeness standpoint. Do they have high taxes, cheap schooling and socialized medicine? Yes. That isnt woke. Thats liberal and left wing. Woke is BLM protests, single motherhood galore, Cancel Culture en masse, making all topics of discussion about race or gender, having left wing ideology infiltrate all workplaces, having your entire identity being a political ideology and screaming at anyone who disagr…
/r/TheRedPill03/06/21 09:18 PM
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Im just going off the data. There are attractive women obviously. But my point is, their value is incredibly inflated because they lack competition (non obese women and non single moms). The US woman who is not fat and under 30 without kids has an absolute monopoly on male attention. In Europe and Asia, the women have their egos in check because they have a lot of competition from other women, and thus their relative value deflates
/r/TheRedPill03/06/21 09:01 PM
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Ive just noticed this in general. The only state that had ample attractive women were urban areas in Florida. I believe this to be a function that people are pressured to be in shape because of the lack of clothing year round
/r/TheRedPill03/06/21 08:50 PM
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Haha dog, I don’t think his existence is based on pussy validation. He’s witnessing what a lot of men are also witnessing. Life is a handful of things. Job, friends, women... that’s about it. Being unhappy about a major part of life, arguably the reason for your existence, is a legitimate concern. Him reducing women to numbers and women doing the same to him is reality, whether you like it or not. Again, that was his point. He’s being “objectified” and can’t get past whatever ceiling was given t…
/r/MGTOW202/06/21 03:41 PM
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Yeah, he’s putting an arbitrary constraint on himself. If he wants, he doesn’t have to “settle down” until his mid 40s for the reason you just stated
/r/seduction02/06/21 03:38 PM
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Lol yes but it’s so low on the traits to worry about when it comes to attraction that it shouldn’t garner any attention. It’s not going to alter bone structure in your face. If you were hot before, you don’t suddenly become not hot without hair
/r/seduction02/06/21 03:36 PM
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Lol testosterone differences is quite literally the reason why men bald and women never bald. Sensitivity is one cause, but high levels of testosterone is another known cause. Again, it’s irrelevant. If I ever became bald, I wouldn’t fucking care and neither should any of these guys
/r/seduction02/06/21 03:32 PM
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I could list off hundreds of athletes because as I said, being bald is generally a sign of testosterone. And if you’re talking regular guys, look no further than the military where short hair or baldness is incredibly common. I’m not going to list off people because you’re a random fucking stranger on the internet. Your facial aesthetics, muscle mass, height etc... do not change. All of which determine physical attractiveness to a higher degree. Sounds like you’re pinning your excuses on being b…
/r/seduction02/06/21 02:47 PM
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I think that’s entirely the point of his post. He’s saying he’s maxed himself out at a 8 on the smv charts, and thus can’t fuck higher than 7 because the 8s are fucking the 9s and 10s. So why play the game if being an 8 gets you so little in return (in his example, 5-7s) To your point, that is a response to the game. Just hire escorts. Not something I would do, but to each his own
/r/MGTOW202/06/21 06:37 AM
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Hahaha bruh... “for older gentlemen on this sub”.... I thought this guy was going to put 50... he put 29 hahaha.... bro, you’re a junior analyst in every finance firm... you’re basically a kid who can now grow a beard... you have guys in their 40s dating girls in college... relax. If you look at anthropological and cross cultural data, historically, 7-10 years across all cultures is the average age difference for reproductive couples... meaning you dating a 19 year is actually normal... and a 26…
/r/seduction02/06/21 06:19 AM
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Being bald is one of the most over reacted to thing on guys. If you’re jacked, being bald is literally an advantage. Vin Diesel, the rock, Jason statham just to name a few, are all considered to be basically sex magnets. They are all bald and all jacked. If we are talking aesthetics, facial aesthetics matter a lot more than hair. Jaw line, facial fat, smile, eye shape, eyebrow thickness, forehead brow ridge etc... are all more important... and a beard can cover up the lower half if there are pro…
/r/seduction02/06/21 05:12 AM
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It’s arbitrary... if you’re a red pill in San Francisco, it’s likely going to a lonely place... if you live in Knoxville, you’re going to have buddies that are at least somewhat like minded To your point though. If you truly an alpha, it’s not lonely. You literally have people jumping for your attention, both men and women
/r/TheRedPill02/06/21 04:55 AM
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Do not ask women for dating advice... I’ve literally read advice on here that bars were unacceptable because “I’m just trying to hangout with my friends.” Go ahead, listen to every single woman’s idiosyncratic standards on what is appropriate. Also have fun never getting laid ever
/r/seduction01/06/21 05:15 PM
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I agree with the optimization. I’d also add in to slow down during those times. The fact that you aren’t wasting 5-10 hours on worthless classes and hobbies means you can take longer in these venues
/r/seduction01/06/21 01:43 AM
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You are conflating 2 sets of ideas. If what you want is a short term relationship, you are correct. No one is debating that. If you want to get married and have kids, your argument is entirely wrong and you are setting yourself up for failure. We have objective data from far left social scientists (and dating apps), 5000 years of religious thought (the virgin is second only to the idea of god himself in literally every religion), and countless anecdotes in the manosphere. The argument that every…
/r/TheRedPill31/05/21 11:49 PM
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Music festivals actually seem pretty optimal... I feel you on the other two. I’m a meat head and there are women in the gym, but pick up sports tend to be just guys and the field I work in is mainly (90 percent) men. That represents the majority of mon-Friday. So why not just optimize lifestyle and approach where you do errands/hangout (coffee shops, book stores etc)
/r/seduction31/05/21 11:12 PM
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I agree. Cold approach (whether day or night) and apps are superior to fake hobbies. Real hobbies good. A cooking class to get laid? You could’ve gone to a random bar by yourself and talked to 5 girls for every class you attended, stayed a little bit longer at the gym and chatted people up, or go to a coffee shop etc. if you are genuinely interested in the hobby, do it. But most guys are liars when they say “I’m interested in cooking and learning salsa dancing”
/r/seduction31/05/21 11:02 PM
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Yes and no. The people who are social adults in today’s world generally were popular as kids or in college. If they weren’t, they generally develop a social media influence, work a social side hustle/business, go to meet up like events where they are the organizer or leader within the group, etc... passively attending all of these things generally doesn’t work. You can attend, but it’s absolutely vital to invite or be invited to events outside of the main experience
/r/seduction31/05/21 11:00 PM
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By definition, this isn’t an LTR... you put a time cap on it
/r/TheRedPill31/05/21 09:16 PM
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I think this is somewhat of a cope by you. We all do it. I’m not blaming you. But you’re likely rationalizing this because you’re a 45? Year old dude. The dating market for you now is primarily 28-50.... ie the vast majority are post wall reformed party girls. This is blue pill in the sense that you’re painting reality as something it isn’t in order for you to cope. Unless you’re legitimately fuck you rich, have a massive social media presence, extremely good looking or work in a very social ind…
/r/TheRedPill31/05/21 09:03 PM
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He’s likely rationalizing an LTR with a high n count
/r/TheRedPill31/05/21 08:45 PM
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LTR the past absolutely matters. It’s not even debatable- this is coming from left wing social scientists... the people who would do anything to prove the opposite if they could. As for STR, it doesn’t matter because it’s short term
/r/TheRedPill31/05/21 08:43 PM
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This has happened to me multiple times in the past. Learned not to do it anymore. Women act like guys are dicks, but we are just responding to incentivizes. If we do things like you state (can we hangout more than once a week) and they end up leaving, and then we do the opposite (barely put in effort) and it works, what type of behavior will we continue to do in the future?
/r/seduction30/05/21 08:39 PM
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Yes this is out of loneliness/s... this happens all of the time. It’s a meme about college frat guys about how consistently they do this. They are the highest valued guys on campus outside of athletes. I never once said I specifically do this. It’s just a societal observation. You know you hit a soft spot when the personal insults start coming out
/r/seduction30/05/21 08:20 PM
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It’s pre selection at work. This happens to every guy, myself included
/r/seduction30/05/21 07:13 PM
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That’s more of a high value male trait. The reason is this: the man has so many other options that texting you at 2 am isn’t a risk. Why? Because if he loses your interest, it doesn’t matter to him because he’ll replace you the next day
/r/seduction30/05/21 07:12 PM
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That’s also a good point. If there is a massive power imbalance in the relationship (ie you have to do x amount of things before I do one thing for you) it likely will end badly. This is the start of that because it’s clear that this isn’t a “hey let’s hangout.” It’s “hey come over and let me do things for you and allow me to attempt to show off value by showing you what I can do and things I have in return for sex later” It is interesting to hear a woman’s side of pick up. But most of the time …
/r/seduction30/05/21 07:10 PM
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Yeah... there’s 3 primary ways of dating today Imo. Online, cold approach (both night and day game fall in this category) and social circle. This fell more into the social circle category because it wasn’t like he just met the teller (day game) or met at a party or bar (night game). This was a potential day game situation that turned into a social circle situation. This type of approach works in a social circle environment
/r/seduction30/05/21 06:40 PM
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I think this is arbitrary and more to do with social circle than actual game. Doing things like this can work, but a lot of times it makes you low value because you’re changing your day for this person and putting her above you
/r/seduction30/05/21 06:18 PM
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As I said, it’s not a huge difference and a random example I thought of in a 5 second time frame. But there is nuance to all situations
/r/TheRedPill30/05/21 05:19 PM
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A lot of guys are in your shoes. You need to apply the rules of seduction to making friends and networking. We constantly talk about cold approaching women on here (majority of us are straight men). Why not turn it on its head and cold approach guys? For example, let’s say you go to the gym or like coffee shops. You know who else goes to the gym and likes coffee shops? Patrons of these venues. Further, your conversation skills will need to improve to “seduce” guys because there is no attraction.…
/r/seduction30/05/21 05:17 PM
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While it’s true that most theory has been said and that you shouldn’t be sitting on here reading all day, the mods remove a ton of posts or just don’t allow you to post. More posts would be useful because all variations of trp haven’t been discovered/talked about (ie Tik Tok girl or game with masks on) and field reports generally provide small dabs of useful info
/r/TheRedPill30/05/21 05:01 PM
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I’d love to know where I said anything about consent. Please show me. My post: “have fun facts about yourself ready to go” You: “you don’t respect CONSENT!” Are you actually stupid?
/r/seduction30/05/21 02:02 AM
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Lol k... you aren’t writing coherently and I don’t feel like debating someone who is so obviously hypocritical as yourself (posting anonymous pics of yourself for guys while simultaneously calling us creeps)
/r/seduction30/05/21 01:54 AM
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You wouldn’t even know it was happening. That’s why’d you have a minimum of 6. It’s not like you’d open with it either. When the opportunity arises, then you insert it. It’s literally a fun fact about yourself. Please stop recklessly throwing the word “creep” around. You’d only find it creepy if the guy was unattractive or kept pestering you. Only the socially privileged use the word in the context you are using it in Edit: she’s calling guys who approach her creepy while simultaneously posting …
/r/seduction30/05/21 01:26 AM
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Same
/r/seduction29/05/21 04:29 PM
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Its debateable and depends on the environment/how attractive you are in that environment. If its on the street or in a park, direct is the only way in many cases. If you're at the mall, in a book store, walking a dog, just any day to day activities you do, indirect is almost always better. You also get to vet her out and save a rejection by going indirect. If she one word answers you for 3+ minutes and is completely uninterested, just walk away
/r/seduction28/05/21 06:14 PM
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It sounds dumb, but if you are going to cold approach a lot, you should have 6 topics you can talk about as “hooks” (basically topics that reveal things about yourself) used for any situation. Not just approaching women either. It’s important to have in any social situation, including work and making friends. For example, after initial 2 min of small talk, “when I was out on the water a few days ago” would be a hook to get her to ask you “doing what”, which you then proceed to talk about fishing…
/r/seduction28/05/21 03:38 PM
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You are overthinking this so much. In most places it’s not against company policies to ask someone out if you don’t impact their formal reviews. It has to be a direct manager to employee relationship or something like that (ie saying no could impact a performance review). Regardless, If you’re actually quitting, it doesn’t matter what the relationship is. HR would take a while to investigate, they’d only investigate if this girl reported it and in most cases if they found anything wrong, they ju…
/r/seduction28/05/21 05:25 AM
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https://modernmasculinities.wordpress.com/2021/05/24/a-rejection-of-modern-dating-methods-delete-your-apps-post-pandemic/ Will be archiving anything I post to Reddit on this site
/r/seduction24/05/21 04:24 PM
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https://modernmasculinities.wordpress.com/2021/05/24/a-rejection-of-modern-dating-methods-delete-your-apps-post-pandemic/ Will be archiving anything I post to Reddit on this site
/r/seduction24/05/21 04:24 PM
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"Ive had to pick up the pieces because some guys didn't behave exactly the way that I agree with. Advising newbs to go out and try cold approaching without being absolute social experts is against everything I believe. No one should try cold approach UNTIL they are experts at it. In the meantime, just mentally masturbate the IDEA of cold approach on this sub all day and never go outside and actually try it for yourself" - Totalitarians can never see that they are totalitarian. And he locks his c…
/r/seduction24/05/21 03:38 PM
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Yes. Hopefully people reading this will see the hyperbole behind the claims "don't ask me out during x activity." We've reached the point that the radical feminists are claiming any "unwanted" interaction, which could literally be any interaction, is analogous to having their life threatened. Thats why I thought this post was important to keep up. When you argue with these people and allow them to give their reasoning behind their "advice," you get to see how truly radical they are and how the a…
/r/seduction24/05/21 03:30 PM
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I agree. I was planning to write about my experiences here this summer, but I’m going to go with an independent blog. I’ve lurked on Reddit, but this is the first time for me having an account and posting content. I didn’t realize how insane people were on here, specifically the mods. Maybe he’s just one bad actor, but holy shit, the guys reasoning for removal is batshit crazy
/r/seduction24/05/21 05:51 AM
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I actually think this guy is bad at reading
/r/seduction24/05/21 05:48 AM
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Then remove the comment, not the post. But you didn't because you are a power hungry mod. And we can all read. Im not breaking any rules in this discussion at all. Is it heated disagreement? Yes. Harrassment? Give me a fucking break dog
/r/seduction24/05/21 05:23 AM
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You changed your argument for each comment. First you imply that I am harassing you. Then you say if I harrass you. Then you say Im borderline harassing you. Dog, disagreement isant harassment. You thinking Im an idiot loser and me thinking the same of you is not harassment. Get over your power high and try to realize that you were in the wrong for removing this post based off of personal disagreements
/r/seduction24/05/21 05:19 AM
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Dude. I literally write throughout the post and in the comments... "do not treat cold approach as going to times square and asking 50 women for their number. Just go about your day to day lives and if you happen to go by someone you're interested in, talk to them." This was part of my primary argument and why I used the gym and local coffee shops as an example. You frequent them in your day to day lives, be social and use it to your advantage. Lol at point 3. If you sit on reddit and jerk off al…
/r/seduction24/05/21 04:57 AM
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Power hungry mods my friends. Everything that is wrong with big tech silencing can be found within the mind of recylablebanthas. And you claim "harassing anyone else?" Who the fuck have I harassed on here? Do you even understand what the word means? Disagreement is not harrassment
/r/seduction24/05/21 04:37 AM
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Exactly. 1.Youre telling guys.... "Hey, if you don't have social skills, all of your interactions are harassment and therefore you will be stuck forever... good luck." How the fuck is this useful advice. You get better at talking to women by, ya know, talking to women. Will some attempts be cringy? Yes. But how else do you develop social skill? The fool is the precursor to the master Every human relationship that starts in person starts as a cold approach. They are a stranger, you or the other p…
/r/seduction24/05/21 04:22 AM
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Youll get a kick out of the mod's response. Read it
/r/seduction24/05/21 04:07 AM
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Youll get a kick out of the mod's response. Read it
/r/seduction24/05/21 04:06 AM
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Amazing You disagree with the fundamental premises of my post such as cold approach is the best way to date women, apps are bad, guys are not harassing women (ie There is no optimal time to do pick up. Making the claim that ANY unwanted interaction is harassment is a hyper feminist argument), social circle is not the best way to meet women, etc. You are twisting my claims. For example, I said "go and talk to a woman while shes reading a book." You immediately come back with "This is harassment."…
/r/seduction24/05/21 03:43 AM
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Yeah I’ll be going independent, creating my own sub, and possibly a YouTube channel for discussion. It’s insane that a single mod can come in and say “not relevant info/some arbitrary reason because I don’t agree with what you’re saying” after 550 upvotes in 15 hours and remove the discussion entirely
/r/seduction23/05/21 11:37 PM
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Exactly: If you read modern dating advice: "How dare you approach her while she was on a train. She was just trying to go home. Now if she rejects you, you will need to see her everyday on your way home" You Rejected the nonsense and now you and your girlfriend are both very happy that you did. It took courage on your part and a rejection of modern dating advice
/r/seduction23/05/21 09:50 PM
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"as long as its approriate" - My man, this is a worthless argument to have. She clearly doesn't understand that "appropriate timing" is entirely what this post rejects. The reason: It doesn't exist. "as long as its appropriate" - My man, this is a worthless argument to have. She clearly doesn't understand that "appropriate timing" is entirely what this post rejects. If a guy she was attracted to approached her at any time, it would be deemed "appropriate". The reverse: inappropriate The only pat…
/r/seduction23/05/21 09:47 PM
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Just ignore these women. They are in the 1 percent that you would not want to date anyway. Their worldview is reject the posts thesis and just stick to online dating and shut up and be silent. That’s what they want
/r/seduction23/05/21 08:11 PM
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Can I get an explanation on why this post was removed. It was upvoted 550 times in 15 hours. Obviously people thought the content was worthwhile. You unfortunately did not. Why does the length of a post have anything to do with whether or not it’s useful? The topics were tied together to form a coherent argument on the rejection of modern dating methods. If I made separate posts, the argument would not be strong or coherent. All of the points were needed to draw the final conclusion. This is an …
/r/seduction23/05/21 07:41 PM
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I didn’t. The mods did and claimed it was “not appropriate content”. Honestly pissed that they took this down because there was a lot of good conversations. Feel free to message the mods. They have not responded to me. I was planning to write about my experiences on here. But the fact that they took this down for no legitimate reason is giving me second thoughts. I’m likely going to start an independent blog and or YouTube channel if this issue doesn’t get resolved Makes you wonder if the mods a…
/r/seduction23/05/21 07:32 PM
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I agree. Most men quickly learn that if they don't take action, nothing happens. I think most women realize this. Its the small subset that include people like this commenter that try to make that men look like they are evil predators. Im sorry, guys are human and want to have relationships and have sex too. Whats the alternative advice? Use a dating app, where most men don't match with women they actually want to date due to demographics and the nature of apps? This is equivalent to telling wom…
/r/seduction23/05/21 04:41 PM
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exactly
/r/seduction23/05/21 04:33 PM
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"When I subjectively deem its approriate without telling anyone.... anything else is harassment" - You really need some self reflection
/r/seduction23/05/21 04:32 PM
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This is the positive content we need to be sharing. Ive approached in the gym too. Its a scary place to do it. But I never regretted once. Nor did the woman feel like she was being "harrassed"
/r/seduction23/05/21 04:28 PM
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Your hyperbole is obnoxious. I say "If you see a cute girl at the gym, go talk to her" Your conclusion: "That is the sign of a rapist" Are you fucking kidding me? This is exactly the type of narrative and language that is causing massive issues with dating and loneliness in our society. Go crawl back into your hole. Id never start a thread on askWomen because its likely the place that has a large amount of people like yourself who are doing everything they can to tear apart positive relationship…
/r/seduction23/05/21 04:22 PM
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haha I like it
/r/seduction23/05/21 04:16 PM
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Exactly. You want large swaths of men to have bitter attitudes towards women and society as a whole? Keep letting bitter people like this user promote these harmful and completely inaccurate narratives. The "my life was threatened because someone expressed interest in dating me" makes my blood boil
/r/seduction23/05/21 04:14 PM
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haha I like it
/r/seduction23/05/21 03:59 PM
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Exactly. As Ive gotten older, social oppurtunites are less available. I work 9-5, lift after work, go food shopping, get coffee etc. The people who say "don't ask me out at x place because Im doing y activity" are, as much as I hate the word, socially privileged in the sense that they have other opportunities to meet people in easier ways. Would I love to go back to a college scenario where there are social opportunities galore? Yep. However, that isn't reality. If I don't approach, I wont get d…
/r/seduction23/05/21 03:58 PM
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Haha exactly my point. The hyper loud and angry 1 percent of bitter and miserable anonymous online Reddit users telling guys that its not ok to interact with women anywhere because every situation could be deemed inappropriate. You should re read my post. You are EXACTLY the person the type of person I referenced who is ruining dating for everyone else. TO A TEE
/r/seduction23/05/21 03:51 PM
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It comes down to a defintion of success too. I used to think I was successful because I got dates, some relationships, etc. But there was rarely any true attraction/love from these relationships. The diversified portfolio can work. But for me and a lot of other guys, doing that will give us an excuse not approach women in public because we always have the fallback option
/r/seduction23/05/21 03:46 PM
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It depends on how you are as a person. If I know I have a dating app in my pocket, Ill be less likely to approach women in public. You may be able to do both. But if you take away the easy path, it will force you to have to be courageous and ask out women in real life. You could do both in the sense that maybe you write down a minimum number of interactions you want in public each month (Ie 20 approaches) and still do the apps. Im just going off of 2.5 years of experience using them. I have had …
/r/seduction23/05/21 03:41 PM
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You have made an entire comment post about the idea that I am outright rejecting. You are an individual who subjectively has times that they deem appropriate and inappropriate. If men were to take into account all possible times that could be deemed inappropriate, there would be no situations left that are deemed appropriate. That is the stage we have entered in the world and why online dating has become so commonplace. It is the only place deemed universally "appropriate" "If Im at x, Im just t…
/r/seduction23/05/21 03:36 PM
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Bullshit. Quite often? Im not wasting my time on this comment thread because as I stated before, you are part of the loud, miserable and anti social group of people who are ruining dating and relationships between men and women at a rampant pace
/r/seduction23/05/21 03:29 PM
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Thanks for the comment. I agree with mostly everything you said. Im not a woman, but I feel like this is good advice for them. If you do feel uncomfortable in 1-2% of these interactions, grow a backbone and make it known them. But like you hinted at, it seems like these super uncomfortable situations don't actually happen as often as people make it seem like they do. From asking women out at bars, Ive had the same experience. Most cases are positive, even when I get rejected. Maybe 2 standout as…
/r/seduction23/05/21 03:25 PM
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This is the hyperbole that is causing issues in dating. Being asked out by a guy in the library is not "life threatening." Give me a fucking break. This is the garbage Im so sick of reading. Someone saying "Hey I think you're cute. Would you like to get coffee sometime?" Is not fucking life threatening Im sure plenty of people met their future spouses at the library because one of them had the courage to go up and open an interaction and ask someone out. You know that poisonous group I talked ab…
/r/seduction23/05/21 03:20 PM
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Thanks for the response. I feel like “day game” was just normal human interaction pre 2000s. We’ve become so digitalized that asking a girl out in public in a non party like setting now has a term. Before it was called being a normal human I have no data to back up the masturbation part. Purely anecdotal. I do know that personally I become more social when I don’t masturbate. I would advise guys to experiment with it. Ie don’t do it for 30/60/90 days and just see if you feel any difference. If y…
/r/seduction23/05/21 03:12 PM
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I agree that guys should attempt to read social situations. But the sentiment of “be smarter” leads to inaction and never approaching, and thus not being as happy as you could be if things worked out. Be smarter in this case is 50% “read my mind that I don’t like to be approached in this situation” and 50% attempt to read social cues. I agree with the second part, but not the first
/r/seduction23/05/21 03:07 PM
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Yes, that’s the point. “Inappropriate time to ask me out” is an infinite set that encapsulates all possible scenarios. She might reject you because it was a suboptimal time for her. So what? Handle it like an adult. We’ve entered the stage that every environment and situation could be deemed “inappropriate” by someone. No one can read minds. This commenter doesn’t like talking to people at the gym. I love talking to other people there. You can’t read our minds to know our preferences.
/r/seduction23/05/21 02:57 PM
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I hear ya. I just think the “in certain situations” is dangerous wording, from an encouragement and actually acting standpoint. This gives guys reason to not approach. “It wasn’t the right time or appropriate place.” No, fuck that. We are adults (mostly). Ask the girl out. If you’re the girls and not interested, just say no. And if you’re the guy and she’s not interested, handle like a normally socialized human and walk away and continue with your day. The problem with “in certain situations” is…
/r/seduction23/05/21 02:51 PM
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Haha I’m not going to keep commenting after this, but a known causal factor of depression is loneliness. And you may specifically not like it? That’s great. You’ll reject someone who approaches you during that time. But other women do not mind it. We can’t read minds, and the sentiment you’re giving is the classic “don’t ask me out unless the situation is entirely appropriate for me,” which is what my post rejects entirely. You’re a big person and can take 10 seconds out of your lift to say “tha…
/r/seduction23/05/21 02:33 PM
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Every person is different. This will tell a bunch of guys, “ehh some stranger on Reddit doesn’t like being talked to anytime after she started working out, therefore all women don’t like being approached after they start working out.” The majority of the time in a gym is after you start a workout. This leads to no interactions if you follow this advice. This is the mind reading activity that I’m fully rejecting in my post. How in the world is a guy supposed to know that she specifically doesn’t …
/r/seduction23/05/21 02:28 PM
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Yes, they were marriageable women. Working with and hanging out with someone for a year plus is plenty of time to get to know someone. Please stfu and go back to being bitter and miserable by yourself
/r/seduction23/05/21 02:23 PM
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Ehh I’m going to have to disagree. If you ended dating a guy for a year or the love of your life interrupted your workout for a minute at a suboptimal time, would you really be mad? No I get interrupted by other guys a lot because I’m pretty athletic looking and they ask for advice. I’ve never once been mad that I had to rest an extra 5 minutes more between a set to help someone out. It’s one minute of your time. I go to gyms a lot. Do women get hit on? Yes. Is it the way a lot of redditors desc…
/r/seduction23/05/21 02:19 PM
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I agree that if you can still be motivated to be social, then yes, apps can be useful. But the problem is that most people are not when they have apps. “Why approach this person? I’ll just swipe later... maybe we’ll match.” I’ve read the book models by Manson, to which he tells the reader to not masturbate more than once a week, and less if possible. Why? For the same reason to delete apps. A lot of us need an extra kick of motivation
/r/seduction23/05/21 02:09 PM
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Please don’t listen to her guys. This is exactly the type of discouraging attitude I was referring to. “Don’t be that guy and ask women out at places you go to. Just stick to apps”. The “you are treating x environment inappropriately” is the mindset I am rejecting
/r/seduction23/05/21 02:05 PM
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Both of ya’all. Let’s not make this a pity party with what sex has it worse. Let’s focus on solutions and strategies for those solutions
/r/seduction23/05/21 05:48 AM
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For dating apps, I’m just going off the data, it has to be an impossibly bad profile to not get matches. There are experiments on YouTube showing completely empty profiles (no pics, no bio) getting hundreds of messages a day As for real life, this is just a general worldview. Anyone can do it. Guys would more than welcome it. If you aren’t that attractive, you just have to mentally prepare to enter the guys world of being rejected. The first few times can be painful, but you’ll get used to it
/r/seduction23/05/21 05:26 AM
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This has been my experience entirely. I’ve had stronger feelings for work crushes or was more attracted to girls at my gym or the coffee shop I used to go to every morning than girls I was dating from the apps. I’m not saying they can’t work, but from 2.5 years experience they haven’t. If I had the mental ability to just ignore the apps, they’d be useful in some sense of “ya never know what might happen.” But I’ve realized I don’t have that ability
/r/seduction23/05/21 05:23 AM
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Context matters a lot. Is it a crowded city? Rural area? You still need to be socially adept to do this. Im not saying to recklessly talk to every single woman you see on the street. But for the sake of argument, lets play with this. Lets assume you're in a city. Treat it like a bar. Just compliment her on an article of clothing, hair etc. "Hey, I really like your hair.... Is it naturally straight?"... With that being said, I wouldn't advise to be randomly walking the streets to pick up women. T…
/r/seduction23/05/21 02:55 AM
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Yeah thats what Ive felt when I went down there. Ybor had an edgy feel, but it seemed like Tampa was a way younger and less hipster place than st Pete
/r/seduction23/05/21 02:23 AM
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Curious... where’d you go in Tampa? Ybor and soho?
/r/seduction23/05/21 01:53 AM
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Haha now we play the morality card. Facially I’m not above a 7... I’m likely a 5 or 6. Body wise I’m likely a 9. So in total, I’m probably a 7. See, I can give myself a suboptimal numeric rating too. And my claim that I’d consider women under 7s for marriage because of other factors besides physical appearance is somehow derogatory? The entire point of that statement was to say, "Hey, Looking hot on Instagram and tinder doesn't always equal full fledged attraction in real life," and "Hey, a pers…
/r/seduction23/05/21 01:49 AM
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You are literally the person who I indicated as the issue in my first paragraph. Have a good day bud
/r/seduction23/05/21 01:16 AM
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lol then why comment? You are putting useless info on this thread
/r/seduction23/05/21 01:15 AM
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Thats my point. Youre seeing a bunch of women in real life who you are attracted to, but are not courageous enough to actually talk to, and apps contribute to that lack of courage. That sums up the post entirely
/r/seduction23/05/21 01:14 AM
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Yeah, thats the gist of this. Im not looking to be a pua and just go to times square and cold approach 50 women. But Id like to really see what happens when I just start asking out some of the beautiful women I see in my day to day. I expect a lot of rejections, but Id much rather have a few of these encounters go good and enter into satisfying relationships than have 20 casual sex dates from bumble. If I was Mick Jagger or Tiger woods and could consistently sleep with models with no effort, tha…
/r/seduction23/05/21 01:11 AM
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It depends on what you deem effective. If you're goal is to get laid by a bunch of random people who are 5's/6's who you don't connect with at all, sure. But that's not fulfilling for most people. YOU personally may be a great looking guy and have "success" for you. But Ive used dating apps for years, gone out with a fair amount of women and have had more "success" than most of my guy friends who also use the apps. And its been really unfulfilling for me. If I could just put down the apps and st…
/r/seduction23/05/21 12:58 AM
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Yes and no. If you have the mental capacity to just put down the phone, sure. I and many other people do not have that mental capacity. Most guys don't and use dating apps as a crutch. Ill waste easily an hour or two a day talking to girls on the apps that I really don't have interest in dating. Its analogous to porn vs real sex for me. Its easy, but the rewards are low in most cases. The same goes for apps. They are easy to get dates, but Ive done it for 2.5 years without a truly fulfilling rel…
/r/seduction23/05/21 12:48 AM
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