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Does it work for day game, too? Like you see a cute girl in walmart, adn then it's like you open with 'who lies more?' or whatever. Then 'neg' her about something. Maybe her hair looking fake. Then go into a DHV story about your model ex girlfriend or whatever and maybe a magic trick. Now she is attracted and starts showing interest. Now you qualify her and ask her what she has going for her other than her looks. Then you reward her with kino. Then escalate and then close? (or just get number on…
/r/seduction23/01/20 10:35 AM
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I guess you could say game is negs, cold reads, humour, teasing, eye contact, body language, qualification, disqualification and maybe a few other things And I think it can help with girls that are what Mark Manson calls 'maybe girls' (they think you're kinda hot/attractive, but aren't 'sold' yet) But people should know whether it 'works' like how it's sold to us by now since we all should know this stuff by now, and just need to do them things in set and see for ourselves (tease, neg, cold read…
/r/seduction06/01/20 09:44 PM
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chodes don't have the courage to try it Try what exactly? Are you talking about a certain method or line? Or just having the courage to make a cold approach in general? I love game, although certainly feel that it can only be used on 'strong maybe' and 'yes girls' - a bit like Mark Manson says. Infields online seem to confirm this, tbh! (she's either super cold to his open, in which case it goes in his 'rejection compilation' or she's very receptive (thinks he's hot?) and it sometimes ends in a …
/r/seduction04/01/20 11:23 AM
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I think people have realised there's really nothing to 'learn'. 'Game' is just talking to a girl and then showing your intent and seeing if she likes you back or not. Same thing we all did as 7 year olds in school. There's no experts
/r/seduction15/11/19 09:31 AM
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everyone spamming this sub trying to sell products that can be got for free nowadays lol
/r/seduction15/11/19 12:27 AM
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Just love yourself.
/r/seduction09/11/19 04:12 PM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7661001/Women-SLAM-strangers-touching-public-react-fury-men-herding-them.html
/r/seduction09/11/19 01:07 PM
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true. I might start my own course lol. I'm gonna charge I think a little less and undercut the competition a little lol.
/r/seduction09/11/19 01:06 PM
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will make you more successful in seduction Women and seduction doesn't seem to be mentioned in their courses (probably for fear of being associated with pickup). It's about 'happiness' and 'self love' - all for £2000!! Do people need to pay a coach lots of money to teach them that having a good job and working out etc will make you happier? ps - not that I even necessarily think them things effect success when it comes to getting laid, tbh. (unless maybe you're going for older women who tend to …
/r/seduction09/11/19 12:27 PM
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Take this with a pinch of salt because i readily admit that I've only exclusively gamed at night. Only a handful of daygame approaches. I'm in the UK My main observations are Some PUA daygamers in London defnitely appear to get some results, but they are approaching all day, playing a massive numbers game to find receptive girls (it's their job!). Also, very imoprtantly, almost all of their results are on tourists. Girls in a new country for a week, by themselves, looking for adventure. It doesn…
/r/seduction09/10/19 05:28 PM
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I think you need SOME stucture, but then, I don't think it even needs to be taught. Like, I don't think people need to be told to put the heat on before frying a steak, but that's kind of what I feel like i'm reading when I hear people teach 'structure' on youtube vids and books etc. It's like, yeah, no shit I need to get her comfortable and chat to her before I try to physically escalate! In general, I think the answer also depends on the guy. Some people do much better when they aren't shackle…
/r/seduction09/10/19 05:18 PM
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basically touch
/r/seduction09/10/19 03:37 PM
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this lol. I've tried this sort of method on tinder before. Unmatched each time!! haha
/r/seduction09/10/19 01:24 PM
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Honestly, that doesn't sound like good game to me, but if it works for you, more power to you I'm inclined to think you're just a handsome mofo, and anything would have worked lol. (PS - I experimented with a very similar 'script' from the playingwitfire guys and it never worked lol)
/r/seduction09/10/19 01:04 PM
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lol
/r/seduction04/10/19 07:40 PM
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Either she's got super strict parents = not worth the hassle Or she's not interested in you = nothing you can do about it. Next So yeah, probably move on
/r/seduction04/10/19 07:38 PM
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it's not easy. I've had a couple recently. Even ones where i've ran some textbook 'game' where the girl does't give a shit about your 'game' lol and told me i'm not her type and to go away like Kylie Jeener shooing away a peasant! haha (yes, had confident eye contact and tonality etc) Also got a kind of 'you're ugly' insult after I opened a hot girl directly fairly late outside a bar near 'home time' On the positive side, i've realised that even brutal rejections tend to be largely forgotten fro…
/r/seduction02/10/19 03:03 PM
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you can't win a girl over who isn't into you lol
/r/seduction02/10/19 09:52 AM
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Depends on your definition of 'game' I guess. From reading his post, the only way it wouldn't be called 'game' is if one was coming from super old school mysterymethod i guess, because he didn't neg and run a best friends routine or whatever, but it was 'game' according to the rest of the PUA world. (where 'game' is basically talking to girls, having confident body language etc and showing intent at some point) I've personally experimented with old school game tonnes, but the OP kind of confirms…
/r/seduction02/10/19 09:18 AM
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He said dating apps. So basically, Be good looking lol. It's not 'game'
/r/seduction26/08/19 06:52 PM
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good post. I get confused sometimes as this is a 'seduction' sub, but most of the advice when it comes to 'learning game' is to tell a girl she's hot and then ask her out. I'm thinking, how does the word 'learn' come into play in all of this? Sometimes people talk about needing to 'learn game' for years. Surely a 5 year old could learn to tell a girl she's hot and ask for her number in minutes lol. Is that 'seduction'?.....or is just 'hitting on a girl'? It's surely about your looks with this st…
/r/seduction24/08/19 09:41 AM
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The world needs a hero now more than ever! I'm the man of tomorrow...today
/r/seduction22/08/19 12:37 PM
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I think mysterymethod is actually the opposite and the more closed off she is, the more you need to make her attracted through negs and stuff.
/r/seduction22/08/19 10:48 AM
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/u/brunofrombrazil and /u/kyledharvey1 are mysterymethod guys who might be able to help you. It looks good to me though. Maybe you just weren't their type? Or maybe a different method works better on UK girls.
/r/seduction22/08/19 09:43 AM
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Shouldn't you have opinion opened her and then negged her and stuff? Otherwise where is the game?
/r/seduction21/08/19 02:29 PM
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tips? https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ct0j2r/fr/ I want to believe that you're right and that one can get any girl with dhv stories etc, but my experience so far is that 'flakey' is right lol (physical attraction needs to be there)
/r/seduction21/08/19 02:19 PM
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Was using the mysterymethod as per /u/brunofrombrazil I think it's kind of the opposite to the London daygame model
/r/seduction20/08/19 08:34 PM
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Did you open over the shoulder? Yeah, I tihnk so if she's just sitting at the bar it's sometimes better to pass her by YOu don't open girls sitting at bars? Are they the hardest sets for some reason? What girls do you open? The opinion opener needs to be a two-fold question that leads into DHVs and a dilemma. followup for your opener? - and then followup with your routines. What are you openers adn how do you follow up and waht routines do you use in each set? PS - I take it you disagree with th…
/r/seduction12/08/19 06:13 PM
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tips? Made an approach on a girl in the bar close to where I live. I open with FTC and then an opinion opener. She answers but seems a little bit taken aback like she’s surprised some random guy is talking too her. (non touristy part of Scotland. Strangers don’t talk. small town. Even in bars it’s quite unusual to see people cold approach) I tease her about her answer and she smiles. I nearly ask her what she’s up too but have to stop myself as this is a mistake as per mystery method game? No qu…
/r/seduction12/08/19 05:32 PM
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Calling her out at this point may not be the best option, Yeah, my instincts agree. I'm playing it super nonchalent whilst also being playful etc. She's still super fast at texting back and is asking me questions and stuff, but certainly not counting my chickens here Plan is that I have about a 10% chance play here at somehow meeting up on a night when i'm already out and trying to carry on where we left off. Possibly random chance, possibly like ''I'm in town, are you out?'' kind of thing Don't…
/r/seduction22/07/19 07:17 PM
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How would you word it? The paraphrased/non verbatim version was like, I got her number at the club after kissing her. She's like a 9 and 18. I'm like a 5 and old af! She text me first saying 'it was fun meeting you. Gutted I had to leave xx'' I text her in the morning just saying like ''Yeah, was fun''. We shared 2 texts about what we were doing that day. I text her looking for a 'soft close' as it's called in order to test her compliance and was like 'We should hang out soon'' She replied ''Def…
/r/seduction22/07/19 04:12 PM
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Well, they do on some days! That's what i'm saying People were happy to hear the truth in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/cfh18p/fr_girls_do_care_about_looks/ edit: HAAHA - That post had like 280 upvotes but looks to have been removed by the mods!! lmao
/r/seduction22/07/19 02:08 PM
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I sometimes think that the userbase work in shifts on this sub. One day all users are all about 'looks is everything. My handsome friends get approached and it's hard to fail when girls are hella attracted', and the next day, all users are like ''Girls don't care about looks. They don't even notice. It means nothing.'' lol Like, Your post saying looks matter and are the most important thing gets downvoted, but a few days back, the most upvoted post in ages was essentially saying the same thing l…
/r/seduction22/07/19 02:07 PM
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Good job then! I think with enough approaches, most of us can find a hot girl who is into us
/r/seduction25/04/19 03:55 PM
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Nice. Do you think there's anything you could have said to 'turn' them 'No girls' into wanting to bang you?
/r/seduction25/04/19 03:53 PM
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but come up to me and say "Say something funny" and my mind goes blank. lol, that reminds me of when I used to watch Tyler RSD infields and seminars. He was always like ''It's easy. If she isn't being receptive, just say something funny, get her absolutely cracking up laughing, and then continue where you left off...'' and i'm thinking ''soooo....what do we say!!? Where's the funny line that can't fail?!! What if I can't think of anything hilariously funny??!' lol.
/r/seduction28/09/18 06:24 PM
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I got lucky recently with a 17 year old (13 years my junior) who let me bang her in her parents house within 40 mins of meeting her in a bar lol. I live to find the exceptions! haha
/r/seduction28/09/18 03:33 PM
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Ahh, OK. Yeah, makes sense in that respect. Although I used to just bring girls back to my parents house. Luckily my parents didn't care lol.
/r/seduction28/09/18 03:27 PM
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Out of interest, why don't you stick with the 18 year old girls. They tend to be the hottest, no?? i'M currently working with some 16 year olds (legal here) and every single one is like a 9 lol.
/r/seduction28/09/18 02:58 PM
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If I were you I would go because traveling is amazing. Slightly off-topic (kinda) but why is travelling so amazing to you? I've always felt different from most of my friends, in that, the idea of 'travelling' for travelling's sake doesn't excite me at all! Most of my friends have wanted to 'go travelling' since we were 18 but I felt like the things that they were excited about sounded so boring to me. THey wanted to see how different cultures live, go site seeing, exploring etc. Not judging them…
/r/seduction28/09/18 12:27 PM
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For the last year or so i've really wanted to go somewhwere like HUngary and stay in a hostel and try to bang some young chicks as I always see posts like yours about how easy it is, but 2 of my friends recently went and neither got laid despite their best efforts. Tried to escalate on girls after having a chat and a laugh and stuff, but always rejected and now I'm convincved i'd have the same outcome so am not sure i'll bother going now as i'm not eveen as attractive as either of them! lol. Do …
/r/seduction28/09/18 10:53 AM
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lol, only for good looking dudes! Out my hundreds of friends, most almost NEVER get laid from cold approach for a same night lay with the exception of my 3 or 4 really good looking friends.
/r/seduction27/09/18 08:07 AM
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Another fairly good post I think, although your post slightly confuses me in the same way that most 'modern' PUA material does. By that, I mean, where is the 'game'? I keep seeing posts on blogs recently about 'game vs socialising with a girl' and what the difference is in todays world of 'natural game'. You go from ''opening and saying whatever comes to your mind'' to escalating. Why would she allow you to escalate on her if she isn't attracted to you? Have you done anything to 'attract' her at…
/r/seduction26/09/18 02:06 PM
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I just do night game. I've worked with thousands of stunning girls, but they are never into me and I just always feel a bit clueless how to get the ball rolling in any environment other than a bar! I just open girls in bars and try to get physical. Something about anytime the girl isn't a complete stranger (such as social circle etc) I just feel lost and out of my depth lol. I guess it's that rejection isn't a big deal with strangers since i'll never see them again? Dunno
/r/seduction25/09/18 06:55 PM
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I finally started getting laid but it has all been from online game and jobs I've had How did the hookups through work happen out of interest? I've only ever gotten laid with cold approach and never through work or social circle or online! So i'm curious how it happens lol cheers
/r/seduction25/09/18 05:38 PM
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I'm from the UK and would like to go to Hungary or Poland or somewhere for 3 or 4 nights of gaming! None of my mates are interested
/r/seduction22/09/18 03:24 PM
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fuck knows. I always here inner game / learn an instrument / take up a really inseresting, fun hobby that will interest people etc etc
/r/seduction02/08/18 04:38 PM
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This is one of them PUA lies. Fact is all of the 'inner game' stuff won't make girls start chasing you and it probably won't even help your interactions. You can master the piano and start sky diving as a hobby (2 common pieces of seddit inner game advice) but it won't make girls approach you and it won't translate into extra confidence when it comes to hitting on some hot girl at the bar. It's all about 'situational confidence'. If you are good with girls and handsome, you can be a complete dea…
/r/seduction30/07/18 05:42 PM
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looks and status
/r/seduction29/07/18 10:04 PM
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I was definitely trying lol. Someone told me dancefloor game is basically just 'tinder' and so you really need to be her 'type' in order to have a shot
/r/seduction29/07/18 04:45 PM
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About 95% to be honest. I was actually out last night with my VERY handsome wing and it's just nuts how differently girls treat me vs him lol.
/r/seduction29/07/18 11:25 AM
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Did you not read the whole thing? I didn't want to see her again.
/r/seduction29/07/18 11:20 AM
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Anxiety is a powerful emotion, man! I'm a fairly young dude but I actually got told I had cancer a while back and thankfully i'm doing well to the point where tests are showing no cancer at all since I had an operation, and even THAT hasn't cured my AA lol! It's nuts. I got smacked in the face in terms of a sharp realisation that life can end at any minute and none of us are promised tomorrow, but man, it can be tough! I think some of us could have a gun pointing at our heads and we'd still be w…
/r/seduction27/07/18 06:06 PM
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How did she reject you? As a fairly ugly dude, I tend to get rejected like 99% of the time, but usually I can deal with it well and the girls are somehwat polite about it ''Sorry, i'm not interested. Bye :)'', but man, every now-and-again when a girl says something like ''Not interested. You're ugly'' after I open with a simply 'Hey, i'm Jason' kind of way in a bar, or when they do that thing where they put their palm near your face as if to say 'go away' whilst giving a look of contempt, I occa…
/r/seduction27/07/18 11:25 AM
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I guess he hasn't got enough IOI's yet to 'make a move'? (supposed to wait for them to show interest first I think)
/r/seduction25/07/18 06:03 PM
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One where we were sitting at a coffee shop and it was the barista who was serving us. Actually we went to the same one a few times over a few days until she made a move on him. Damn!! He really must be a handsome SOB lol. Yeah, Poland sounds good.Also hungary. I want to go but I almost hate the idea of being surrounded by loads of super hot girls who aren't into me! lol. Sounds super frustrating cheers
/r/seduction03/07/18 05:51 PM
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My Mexican friend got laid a lot Did he say how he done it? (direct/indirect/cold approach/good looking guy using tinder game/ etc etc) I'm looking to travel to some countries soon to see if I have any better luck. Maybe girls care less about looks over there?
/r/seduction03/07/18 05:04 PM
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Oh no, I totally get that. I was only playing when I said they were mean lol. I know that if I was super handsome then they'd be the complete opposite of 'mean'! haha. As you say, they are attracted to something different than what I am able to offer Although saying that, i'd personally never call a girl who wasn't my type 'ugly' tbh
/r/seduction03/07/18 02:49 PM
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no it wasn't that. I've had the similar reactions from girls when i've gone direct and opened by telling them they were cute, but i've also pulled from going direct and indirect. All that matters is that she thinks you're handsome. At that point honestly ANYTHING works. you can be indirect and aloof like mysterymethod, and it'll make her see you as a prize and chase you, or you can be direct, and she'll find it hot and manly. It all works if she thinks you're hot. Or anything in between
/r/seduction02/07/18 09:56 PM
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I approached a hot girl last week and she ignored me, then told her friend I was ugly and pretended to be sick! Hot Girls are mean lol. ps - I didn't even go direct! Just making conversation. I don't think it matters what you say. She either thinks you're hot (you have a chance) or she doesn't (you have no chance no matter what)
/r/seduction02/07/18 09:49 PM
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I approached a hot girl last week and she ignored me, then told her friend I was ugly and pretended to be sick! Hot Girls are mean lol. ps - I didn't even go direct! Just making conversation. I don't think it matters what you say. She either thinks you're hot (you have a chance) or she doesn't (you have no chance no matter what)
/r/seduction02/07/18 09:49 PM
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I approached a hot girl last week and she ignored me, then told her friend I was ugly and pretended to be sick! Hot Girls are mean lol. ps - I didn't even go direct! Just making conversation. I don't think it matters what you say. She either thinks you're hot (you have a chance) or she doesn't (you have no chance no matter what)
/r/seduction02/07/18 09:47 PM
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Just escalate and go for the same night lay? I have a German friend who is one of the most handsome people i've ever seen, and he is very quiet and boring and sort of 'shy', but HOT girls approach him and hit on him all night and he often gets the girl because he relies on just kissing them to build the sexual energy and then taking them home. And to answer you question, I guess you can use good looks until about the age that you don't really care about getting laid anymore lol. (obviously you w…
/r/seduction02/07/18 06:55 PM
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Unless you’re of the theory that it’s all looks that makes her into you and there is nothing you can do to change her attraction (which is fine). Well I didn't really want to go down the whole 'lookism' road, but since you brought it up i'll be honest. My view based on my own thousands of approaches so far and from witnessing everything around me on nights out is that yes, it IS all about looks basically. She either thinks you're hot or she doesn't. If she doesn't then NOTHING you do or say will…
/r/seduction02/07/18 03:11 PM
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how did the sending of nudes happen so fast out of interest? Always baffles me how that happens lol. No girls have ever sent me nudes! How did the convo go?
/r/seduction02/07/18 02:17 PM
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I think she's either into you or she's not and it's not in your control at all, so in a sense 'outergame' is maybe not worth worrying about. Not to mention that every single piece of outergame advice is disputed by the next PUA. Even JulienRSD say's it's 'numbers game' and that he gets rejected all the time
/r/seduction02/07/18 02:12 PM
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In about a year I could cold approach just about anyone, get their number and bust a nut Since you say you don't like mystery method routines/lines/rules etc, what specifically do you do/say in order to bang any girl you want? What is your 'game'? Help me pain a picture in my head. I'm in for tips lol. Are you especially handsome?
/r/seduction02/07/18 12:50 PM
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Just jealousy, I think.
/r/seduction02/07/18 09:23 AM
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I hate you because you're obviously very good looking lol. Just bang them both
/r/seduction01/07/18 03:35 PM
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I've only ever cold approached in bars. No social circle (my social circle is just a few guy friends). No day game (don't see the point in the UK if you're not in London). I never even wanted to see the girls again so didn't ever get called out on my lies (I did see one girl a few times and was still never found out. She moved back to Czech a month later anyway) No effect on reputation apart from amongst my friends who noticed I was now approaching more girls, but they thought it was amuing rath…
/r/seduction01/07/18 08:12 AM
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His only 'practical' advice for actually getting laid is to just be direct and show vulnerability. Complete opposite of mystery method, funnily enough. It's probably a good book for 'inner game' don't see how it can really help someone looking to get laid tonight. Being so direct will be OK if she thinks you are hot, but even then, without a plan, you could still lose her pretty easily if you mess up. I think you'd need to read other 'game' books if you wanted to actually get laid a bit
/r/seduction30/06/18 06:41 PM
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What did you talk about after you re-approached her at the bus stop? Like after you re-opened her, what did sort of stuff did you start to talk about? PS - Good job. Make sure to update us
/r/seduction30/06/18 08:26 AM
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I've actually been with nearly 20 girls. If it makes you feel better, I didn't lose my V-card until I was well into my 20's. All it took was massive action (which was VERY hard in itself and required me to be drunk and highly motivated. I'd never really had the balls too approach until I started chain watching infields lol). You need to approach in numbers and PRETEND to be super confident. It's just acting. It's all it really is. ''What would a super confident guy say/do here?''. Also, don't be…
/r/seduction30/06/18 07:29 AM
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this site is odd. Why have you been downvoted even though you are correct! I can only imagine people are thinking that you are making up the UK laws lol
/r/seduction29/06/18 02:42 PM
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I live in England. It's all fine here. 16 is the age of consent and there are no age gap laws at all
/r/seduction29/06/18 12:22 PM
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I don't even know how to reply to such a stupid comment
/r/seduction29/06/18 11:28 AM
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Well are you into it (him) or not? I'm in my 30's and have hooked up with a few girls your age last year. One was even younger. Some girls like older guys. The majority don't though, to be honest. We can't really decide for you
/r/seduction29/06/18 11:13 AM
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have you seen him pull girls from cold approach? Can you explain his style/method? I'm ugly, and cold approach for me so far has been ridiculously soul destroying lol. (I've even been verbally rejected for being ugly in a bar! that stung!)
/r/seduction29/06/18 09:12 AM
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Everyone has seen the Simple Pickup, and I thought wow it looks incredibly easy. But what they don't show is the volume of rejections Kong released a vid of himself uncut of him approaching girls at night for the best part of an hour, and he was shot down basically every time. It was brutal. And this was when he was a coach! Basically, it's super tough and it's basically 'numbers game' even at a 'pro' level. You can't make someone attracted to you
/r/seduction27/06/18 06:53 AM
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it's flawed in terms of mysterymethod, but it's perfect in terms of Mark Manson or RSD or whatever Just depends on who's method you think is correct
/r/seduction27/06/18 06:52 AM
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Damn right it counts you sexy MoFo!
/r/seduction26/06/18 10:33 PM
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social anxiety is an actual medical issue, though. It's usually due to a chemical imbalance in the brain as far as i'm aware. So things like relying on pills is just the way it is for some people. Same as yu might have to rely on pills for high blood pressure or whatever
/r/seduction26/06/18 04:28 PM
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I don't know if it's somewhat location based (i'm in the UK), but I tried going out by myself on a night out for the first time ever last week and it was painful! Don't think i'll be doing it again. Everyone around you is in their own little social circles and have no interest in talking to some random dude by himself. And girls are scouting around looking for the cool guys with lots of friends. I do think it'd be easier in the US from what i've seen, though
/r/seduction26/06/18 08:54 AM
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I think the issue is that people aren't really talking about 'seduction' most of the time. It's always a case of the girl thinking he's hot, they get hook up, and then he thinks he's a master of seduction. Bit like the good looking guy who uses tinder and opens with ''DTF??''. She says 'yes, where and when??'' he replies with his address and ''9pm'' and they meet and have sex instantly and now he's brags about this on a 'seduction' forum. Seduction to me is banging girls who basically aren't int…
/r/seduction25/06/18 07:42 AM
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I think they were like 19, yeah. I've dealt with lots of rejection, but that really fukking stung! lol
/r/seduction24/06/18 05:12 PM
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Better than being ugly! haha In fact, last night I had an absolutley brutal rejection where, after i'd been rejected, the girl giggled with her friend and then made the sound of impersonating someone being sick. Feels bad man lol. It was only my first approach of the night and I couldn't bring myself to do another one all night as I was just too self conscious. Hopefully my brain will forget that soon and i'll be able too approach again soon!
/r/seduction24/06/18 04:53 PM
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Why is this surprising? It's like me using the photo's of some male model and getting all the girls texting me and then me being like 'that's not me, by the way!'. Of course they will unmatch you! They are talking to me because they thought I was a hot model. Now that they know i'm not, obviously they're not gonna want to bang anymore lol
/r/seduction22/06/18 12:19 PM
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These threads always hit me hard lol. I hate to say it, but I don't think you can compete with the really good looking guys who all the girls want with 'game'. At least in my experience so far, no matter how many negs and DHV stories and teases and push pull and this and that, if she's doesn't think you're good looking, your odds are slim to none, and on the flip-side, if the guy happens to be totally her type (say very tall, bearded and tattood or whatever) then it's almost impossible for him t…
/r/seduction22/06/18 07:50 AM
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Would you mind explaining what you mean with "eliciting value routine". I think originally, Style used it like: “If you had to pick one experience that makes life worth living…what would it be?” hb: bla bla bla “What is the ideal scenario of you doing that thing? Describe it.” hb: bla bla “So picturing that right now, how do you feel? What emotions are going through your body?” hb: bla bla “How does this activity fit into your overall lifestyle right now? Do you do this often?” hb: bla bla “That…
/r/seduction21/06/18 05:07 PM
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I'm not saying i'm strong or anything at all! Just that i'm stronger than I look like I should be. To give you an idea though, we had a BBQ recently and we were messing around with the dumbells. I grabbed some 18KG dumbells. I had the smallest arms out of all of us. I could curl them like 8 times on each arm with good form. So could another guy, but he had big arms. And some of the other guys (who had arms bigger than mine) could barely do 1 rep lol
/r/seduction21/06/18 03:35 PM
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Whilst I agree with you (although I'm starting to think what you wrote is ALWAYS the case when someone gets laid) he still deserves some credit.
/r/seduction21/06/18 11:05 AM
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I know how you feel. I have the most weird genetics! I can curl more weight than most of my friends, but my arms look about the same as a 12 year old girls! Nobody knows where my strength comes from lol - It's nuts!! I hate it, especially when my friends with big muscles and stuff get laid without needing an ounce of 'game' (girls just approach THEM and escalate on THEM and pull THEM whilst my friends don't do shit lol) I think testosterone could maybe help though? In Regards to your question th…
/r/seduction21/06/18 10:38 AM
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I think it's happened maybe 2 or 3 times in maybe 15 years of 'going out' tbh. I guess even if you are a bit ugly, ONE girl out there will think yuo're handsome lol
/r/seduction19/06/18 07:36 AM
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This has been my experience so far too, to be honest. I think most people who get laid get laid in spite of their 'game', and not because of it. I think women are more like men than PUA books would have you believe - i.e, if they think you are hot, that's basically enough for them to bang you. This seems to be my experience from night game at least. Maybe times have changed due to tinder and social media etc and the concepts in game books etc aren't really valid anymore. I'm yet to make a girl a…
/r/seduction18/06/18 09:26 AM
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I know people who do lots of daygame and they're actually really good at it/smooth/have solid interactions etc, and even they get flaked a ridiculous amount of the time and never get a text back or whatver. It seems to be a hell of a lot of work with little to no results whereas with nightgame, the rejections and bitch shields are more brutal, but if you happen too open a girl that thinks you're hot, you have a much better chance at banging her that night
/r/seduction17/06/18 02:24 PM
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daygame will probably frustrate you even more tbh, but give it a go and see how you get on.
/r/seduction17/06/18 01:17 PM
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I just got home from an unsuccessful night too lol I'm felling angry and jeaolous but i'll get over it soon - II was talking to this hot girl and it seemed to be going OK, but then she kept asking about my good looking friend and very shortly after she just pounced on him and despite having zero game, he banged her lol. I think girls are more like men than we think - i.e if they think the guy is good looking, that's enough. The same as us men would bang a girl with a horrid personality if she wa…
/r/seduction17/06/18 11:34 AM
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this is fake, lol. I heard it before. Convicts often bang female jail wardens though, but that's good looks instead of game 99% of teh time
/r/seduction16/06/18 01:40 PM
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, I showed intent by calibrated physical escalation Elaborate, please. I often struggle with finding a way to go beyond 'incidental touch' like touching her arm to emphasize a point (which obviously doesn't show sexual intent) without it looking weird and forced. ESPECIALLY if she's not thorwing me the biggest most obvious IOI's during the convo. I can find it awkward like we're talking about, as you say, something boring like her job, and I know I need to escalate, and then rub her leg whilst s…
/r/seduction16/06/18 08:22 AM
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because the guy was saying it's important to hide your intent as girls only like you until they know that you like them back, and I remembered your name as saying the opposite (show intent. Show girls you like them etc)
/r/seduction15/06/18 02:15 PM
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For a lot of girls (only know this cuz I’ve asked my friends as well as it’s how I feel), the girls like you a lot UNTIL they know you’re interested/like them as well How does this align with what this sub preaches about being direct and showing intent? /u/duncmancan It's tough - Sometimes i'll be talking too a girl, and I'll be being purposely aloof and not showing my intent as that's what I read girls like (make them chase) and then i'll lose her and i'll think ''Shit, she never even knew I wa…
/r/seduction15/06/18 09:49 AM
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I'd love to move there too. Mainly the weather and the friendliness. I always wanted to spend a few weeks in Austin, Texas and hit on the hordes of cute college girls on the 6th street using my British accent to help me along, but i'm getting too old now, plus it'd be a very expensive trip!! :( There was one UK (domain at least) pickup forum that I used to visit, although there really weren't that many Brits there gaming in the UKm and I think the owner stopped paying for the website domain fee …
/r/seduction14/06/18 12:58 PM
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There's just so many weird little differences which are basically never ever spoken about which is why it was kind of refreshing to see the vid, even though she only scratched the surface. Mixed sets in the UK can be just impossible because of the social circle aspect which Kesia touched upon. Brits don't want to meet new people on nights out most of the time. They have their friends who they like, and they don't want other people intruding! I'm embarrassed to say that i've been on the other sid…
/r/seduction14/06/18 12:31 PM
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Do most Brits look like that? Damn. Sign me up. lol, she's hot isn't she. Actually, most of my neighbours are younger and as hot as her. I actually find it frustrating rather than a positive though because they aren't into me but they are so damn cute and I think i'd rather replace them with some middle aged male accountants or something to stop the torture of seeing them! haha She is bang on, though. I always see PUA people dismissing things like cultural differences, but there really is quite …
/r/seduction14/06/18 12:03 PM
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he banged her on the date, though (the next vid) I think it was solid. My only issue is that it's way easier when you live in a city full of tourists. Girls who are in a new country travelling by themselves are literally looking to get laid lol
/r/seduction13/06/18 08:06 PM
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lol
/r/seduction01/06/18 01:00 PM
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I could go out and get girls any given night without using anything I'm very vey jealous! lol. So you can pull without 'game', but with 'game' (DHV stories, disqualifying girl, negging etc etc) you can pull hotter girls? I'd be happy with 6's, but even WITH 'game' they aren't interested in general lol. Not gonna give up though cheers
/r/seduction01/06/18 09:29 AM
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when you talk about 'leading the conversation' are you talking about certain topics that you try to force in order to help move the conversation along in the way you want it too in order to best serve your purposes? If so, how? In terms of 'things', I have tried breaking down 'game' into practical terms such as neg, disqualify yourself, disqualify the girl, tease, qualify the girl, statement of intent etc etc. But then I watch lots of infields and often times, the PUA will miss out nearly all of…
/r/seduction01/06/18 08:45 AM
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thanks. I've been trying to memorize everything, but it's hard and sometimes the girl doesn't even talk back really and so i'm saying my stuff that I've planned, but it's not really 'working' as such. Like, I know my lines are supposed to build attraction and make her want me, but it doesn't seem to work for me like in the book. Need to get better material maybe too lead the conversation where I want Where is that exactly? (sorry if it's a stupid question) IN terms of showing intent etc, how do …
/r/seduction01/06/18 07:20 AM
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So how do I make my stack less like a 'script' and more like a 'game plan' as you say?: And should the following be enough to get me at least 8's most of the time if I can remember to say most of the lines?? heyyyyyyyyy ! ! ! what is up ! ! ! ! ! You guys are the hottest..............social robots i've met...........in like the last 15 minutes. time contrant : i would just abuse you guys for the rest of the night, but gotta go in a second cuz my friends are here, but you guys seem fun....i wante…
/r/seduction31/05/18 04:18 PM
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haha!
/r/seduction27/05/18 04:36 PM
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Mark Manson is the most recommended material on this sub btw
/r/seduction27/05/18 04:20 PM
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I guess it depends on who you follow. Mark Manson would say he ran excellent game since he showed vulnerability and 'showed his intent' whereas Mystery would say 'you done it wrong. You should hide your intent'
/r/seduction27/05/18 02:25 PM
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This it what you are supposed to do if you follow the Mark manson style of game. Show vulneribilty. let you intent be known etc
/r/seduction27/05/18 02:24 PM
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lol
/r/seduction27/05/18 11:55 AM
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It doesn't matter. You're never ever going to meet her. Just start over with new pics all taken today so that you don't need to fry your brain worrying about it for the next 20 years lol
/r/seduction24/05/18 08:41 AM
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The biggest issue is probably the CONFLICTING advice from supposed experts. It's a headfukk! At the moment, I second guess every single word that comes out of my mouth lol. Scared of being direct (wrong according to the pickup blog I read), scared of going in indirect (wrong according to most of this sub), not sure what to talk about because I read on here that I should never ask her name/age/location/job questions/questions about her night etc for at least an hour, or any question that could be…
/r/seduction23/05/18 07:36 PM
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Maybe the 16 year old needed more negging? And with the Czech girls, maybe something like ''So beauty is common. Tell me, else do you have going for you?''
/r/seduction14/05/18 11:23 AM
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Yeah, I mean, I can't imagine being served by some stunning teenager and she's like ''You're sandwich will be $4.50, please'' and then me being like ''Cool. Are you're nails real? No? Shame. You blink a lot. So anyway, get this, I was driving to Vegas with my ex girlfriend who is a model and a stripper bla bla bla, wait, let me look at your hand start palm reading...so what else do you have going for you other than your looks? Beauty is common bla bla bla...'' How to 'dhv' when that kind of thin…
/r/seduction11/05/18 07:19 PM
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that only works for good looking guys, and i'm sure I've seen you mention that you are handsome before so makes sense. But yeah, I don't think you are actually 'gaming' as much as just relying on looks (which is fine if you have them! I'm not knocking it, lol)
/r/seduction11/05/18 02:18 PM
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How does it work in the day, maybe on girls who are working? Like, can I still use game (open, use opinion opener, Palm reading, neg, DHV stories about model ex girlfriend, ask her what she has going for her other than her looks because beauty is common etc) on the hot girl at the gas station when she's serving me or on some girl in the street? Or can you only really use game on girls in certain environments night at bars?
/r/seduction11/05/18 01:08 PM
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How does it work for girls that you know from social circle or girls that are at work though? Like, can I still use opinion opener, Palm reading, neg, DHV stories on the hot girl at the gas station when she's serving me? Or can you only really use game on girls in certain environments?
/r/seduction11/05/18 12:53 PM
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Basically, open, opinion opener, palm read, best friends test, neg(as her if he nails are real), DHV story about your stripper ex girl friend, Neg, palm read, when she starts giving you IOI's tell her she can look but can't touch, ask her what she has going for her other than her looks, when she qualifies, pull
/r/seduction11/05/18 12:33 PM
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Is MysteryMethod enough to let you know how to seduce any girl? I'm trying to memorize like 20 stacks and routines at the moment.
/r/seduction09/05/18 05:34 PM
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this kind of thing? I'm trying to memorize it all for my next approach, but my memory sucks!: heyyyyyyyyy ! ! ! what is up ! ! ! ! ! You guys are the hottest..............social robots i've met...........in like the last 15 minutes. time contrant : i would just abuse you guys for the rest of the night, but gotta go in a second cuz my friends are here, but you guys seem fun....i wanted to come over and say Hi. How do you guys know each other ? .............You guys have that vibe like you've know…
/r/seduction09/05/18 02:25 PM
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something like this would be better?: heyyyyyyyyy ! ! ! what is up ! ! ! ! ! You guys are the hottest..............social robots i've met...........in like the last 15 minutes. time contrant : i would just abuse you guys for the rest of the night, but gotta go in a second cuz my friends are here, but you guys seem fun....i wanted to come over and say Hi. How do you guys know each other ? .............You guys have that vibe like you've know each other forever i can tell you guys are really good …
/r/seduction09/05/18 02:15 PM
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