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| 9 | Why do the avg women dont want the bottom 80% of men?I’ve said this before, but the “average woman” is generally more useful to the “average man” than vice versa. Men don’t generally get the same social support from friends. Men don’t usually compliment each other or talk about emotional things. So the main way men get their emotional needs met is through a relationship with a woman. And also, sex. The average woman usually provides sex, validation, social support, possibly kids to spread his legacy. Things he can’t get without a woman. But women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/25 06:18 PM |
| 25 | If women like different men, why are there so many men not liked by anyone?I’m a bi woman, and even though I can acknowledge I don’t have the experience dating women as a man… I do think I have some insight from both POVs. Because women generally get “pursued” vs being the pursuers, women who could’ve liked you (but you don’t like) generally won’t be apparent if you don’t pursue them. This is true for me too, as a bi woman. I often feel like “no” women like me, but it’s really more that I’m not shooting my shot for women I’m not interested in. Men do “shoot their shot”… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/25 11:00 PM |
| 6 | Why are women more likely than men to want to date and marry for convenience and confort and safety rather than for love?Sugar daddies aren’t dating for “love.” They’re trying to date women physically out of their league and usually younger, so money is the equalizer. Rich and high status men marry low income? Not generally. People tend to marry within their own socioeconomic class. Some men date women who make less than them, but it might be the difference between 60k and 100k, not generally 20k and 200k+. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 07:56 PM |
| – | Were the guys who hurt you the most actually hot?I’ll go against the grain and say yeah, most of them were hot. A few of them were average looking, but very charismatic. I suppose I became addicted to intermittent reinforcement (hot-cold behavior) and trying to prove my worth and that I COULD actually get the lukewarm people to like me. A combo of low self-esteem and high ego. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/25 05:32 PM |
| 12 | Society doesn't really hate older womenPeople like a feeling of accomplishment, and youth and natural genetic beauty are not things you worked for. Maslow’s hierarchy of needs states that humans are different than other animals, because after they fulfill their need of survival and safety, they desire self-actualization. Plus looks are a depreciating asset. Many people live till 70 or older. Nobody wants to only be valued from 18-40. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/25 12:51 AM |
| 17 | Society doesn't really hate older womenI mostly agree, but the caveat is it’s really hard for a woman to be valued for other things if she’s not physically attractive first. And age makes people less physically hot. Take Jelly Roll for example - I’m not sure a 40 year old morbidly obese woman would be able to top music charts. You don’t see nearly as many fat women in media. Men’s actual skills, talents, and hard work are put at the forefront most of the time. Exception being for dating or becoming a Justin Bieber. Sometimes women re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/25 10:58 PM |
| – | Men arent rewarding bad men, women areMen shame simps because it affects them. It makes it harder to get women’s attention and their standards become higher. Women don’t shame female enablers as much, because it doesn’t affect them as much. Some woman who chooses a toxic dude over an average nice guy doesn’t really affect me, unless I know her personally. Many women DO give each other the advice to wait on sex, which I think is the female equivalent. Those women want to drive the price of sex up so (attractive) men are more motivate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/25 01:47 PM |
| 14 | Women are the ones red pilling men, not the manosphereI agree with you. A lot of women who immediately go to “entitlement” in these discussions have little or no experience dating women. Tons of women use men (or in my case, women) as an emotional support blanket, and/or for favors while casually leading them on… and giving them just enough breadcrumbs to think there’s a possible chance. Then they meet someone they’re super into, and all of that goes out the window. Suddenly they don’t need to wait weeks/months for sex or take it slow, they’re cons… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/25 03:18 PM |
| 9 | Women are the ones red pilling men, not the manosphereI promise you average and below average women experience rejection plenty, especially when younger. In middle school, my crush asked me out and I was so excited… until I heard his friends off in a distance, chuckling. It was a dare for him to ask out a woman “he never would actually.” You’re right though that women offer more emotional support to other women, and often do coddle them. Women aren’t often told they need to be more attractive, confident, charismatic etc when they complain about the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/25 03:02 PM |
| 1 | I'd rather be a man finding a girlfriend than a woman finding a boyfriend.Harsh truth: Many really hot guys DO get a ton of unwanted attention from women they’re not attracted to. The way you’re feeling about the men you’re not attracted to, could easily be the way your crush feels about you. You’re not invisible, they’re just not interested. Women absolutely DO have the power to act, but I think on some level many of them know there’s a good likelihood of rejection. And that’s the real reason they won’t, not because of gender norms. This just sounds like a case of “T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/25 07:25 PM |
| 6 | Going dutch on dates is the best way to weed out women with a parasitic mentality.This really only works if you already have established some “value” (to the woman) to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/25 03:01 PM |
| 9 | Going dutch on dates is the best way to weed out women with a parasitic mentality.If you’re average in both looks and charisma, it does in my opinion. Sure, there’s some really hot and/or social guys who can get away with it. I’m assuming on a balance of probabilities most men in this subreddit are not that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/25 02:05 PM |
| 34 | Going dutch on dates is the best way to weed out women with a parasitic mentality.While there are plenty of women who are happy to do this, on a balance of probabilities they’re unlikely to be the hotter/younger ones. If you’re a 40 year old man trying to date a 25 year old, and you are much more established in your career… You’re probably going to have to pay for the difference in life experience, and you wanting the “hotter and younger” person. Also, if you’re trying to be the guy who hooks up with women from the club… you’re likely competing against men who are happy to bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/25 01:39 PM |
| 37 | Women lose attraction to their partners due to familiarity faster than men to theirs due to aging.Women like the honeymoon phase, not straight up hookups. They like the dopamine rush of the beginning stages, the rush of excitement when you don’t know when he’s going to text and then he does. The anticipation of the first touch, first cuddle, etc. The rush isn’t solely about the sex, it’s the infatuation stage before the problems come in that is intoxicating. Also applies to men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/25 07:35 PM |
| 8 | How can men be desirable to women under late-stage capitalism?She did say love, not sex. Actual romantic relationships, not low effort hookups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/25 01:51 PM |
| 28 | If women’s “value-add” contribution is pregnancy, then it makes sense that men have to contribute a value-add tooI think most men do understand this. The problem is simply that most men will not be able to be the primary breadwinner in this economy. This is kind of the argument many men make about “women can just be, men have to become” - I don’t fully agree, but I see the argument. Essentially your argument is that a man needs to build himself up, make more money than most of the population (single income household is probably like 10% of the US), just to get the chance of having kids with a woman who did… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/25 11:20 PM |
| 29 | Autism is the biggest barrier to dating and social growth and highly prevalent online. Most PPD content misleads this proportion of men to focus on the wrong things.I do think autism tends to show itself differently in men vs women. Women tend to mask more. Their autism often shows itself in more subtle, and quite frankly, less annoying ways. Whereas I’ve seen more autistic men who were very loud, boisterous, rude, etc. Lack of emotional regulation and outrage. I won’t deny there’s a masculinity component to it, that significantly reduces autistic men’s dating options. But the autistic women who don’t struggle dating usually present fairly neurotypical, out… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/25 09:05 PM |
| 3 | Women’s sexual preferences are seen as valid while men’s sexual preferences are notThe traits that make someone a great long-term partner often contradict being an exciting casual sex partner. Long-term involves stability, consistency, reliability which often contradicts with being mysterious, novel, adventurous etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/25 08:53 PM |
| 8 | The narrative that "women are happily choosing to be single" makes ZERO sense when you look at the actual dataIn general? Of course. But if we’re talking about modern dating problems, using statistics of random married couples doesn’t help paint a picture for singles looking to date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/25 02:47 PM |
| 12 | The narrative that "women are happily choosing to be single" makes ZERO sense when you look at the actual dataThis is true, but I don’t think this is an accurate representation of the active singles market. I know many women who settled down immediately after high school, who are included in that median lifetime %. But they might never be in the dating pool again. I’d be curious about stats from women who are single and actively looking for dates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/25 01:48 PM |
| 13 | Do you actually lower sexual attraction when it comes to a guy you see as relationship material?Here’s the thing: Even IF all women chose the best sex she’s ever had to be in a relationship with, there’s no guarantee it would stay that way. Desire is driven by many things other than just physical looks. Context, environment, novelty. You could feel passionate sparks with someone immediately, simply because you met them at the right place and right mood. Even if you married “the best sex you ever had”, people gain weight, get health issues, have kids, have stress from jobs. Not to mention o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/25 08:26 PM |
| 12 | Do you actually lower sexual attraction when it comes to a guy you see as relationship material?“Lowering her expectations” would have been continuing to stay with him even if the sex never improved. It doesn’t sound like that’s what happened. Sounds like she vocalized what she liked in bed (and vice versa) and they were able to become more in alignment sexually. Two people often don’t just come into relationships being perfect for each other. There’s always going to be areas you two aren’t in alignment on. You communicate and grow together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/25 08:12 PM |
| 12 | Women cant complain when men dont care for themPeople can just get off when they have an urge. Of course most would prefer a great partner, but casual sex isn’t many people’s forte. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/25 05:14 PM |
| 12 | Women cant complain when men dont care for themThere’s not many questions. People can’t afford kids, especially Gen Z. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/25 05:12 PM |
| 21 | Women cant complain when men dont care for themWhen men have these conversations, I often notice they reference how much sex is/isn’t being had before they talk about actual relationships. I don’t think teens/young adults having less sex than the past is always a bad thing. Sex education scared a lot of teens into not wanting sex. They didn’t want to become teen parents. Many saw their parents have kids young and struggle. There’s more access to information - many people were having sex young because they thought it made them “cool” and was … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/25 04:28 PM |
| 9 | Women cant complain when men dont care for themThe men who I’ve known to have a constant roster of women often are (at least slightly) manipulative with most of them. I’m not saying it’s impossible - but if you tell women on the front-end you’re not looking for anything serious, you’re eliminating most women. Most women will only sleep with a guy if they think there’s at least some potential for something serious down the line. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/25 04:19 PM |
| 7 | Do you all think dating was easier before COVID or even before the rise of dating apps as the main source of meeting people?Less people are single as they get older. More “quality” and hotter people get scooped from the dating market earlier and quicker. The stakes get higher because many women start thinking about marriage/kids around mid-20s. Their criteria increases because it’s no longer about potential. Then there’s the men/women who are overly picky and have high superficial standards for looks/money/status etc and generally either want someone super rare or out of their league, and they struggle. Dating apps s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/25 01:07 PM |
| – | Dating in your 20s is impossible if you want true loveThis, plus dating in your teenage years was not “unconditional” even then. The determined hierarchy was just different. It was determined mostly by who you were friends with, your “status” at school, and your looks. Plenty of “bottom tier” people in school had zero dating success. This is possibly just a case of OP being higher up on the hierarchy based on various factors in school, and then the hierarchy changing as he gets older. I’ve known many people who “peaked” in high school and constantl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/25 04:24 PM |
| 11 | Modern hookup culture makes women jaded and have unrealistic expectations of menA similar reason some women will use guys for free food. Some people are just self-serving. If someone is giving them validation and something else they want (sex/money), they’ll take the benefits regardless of their attraction towards the person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/25 02:35 PM |
| 17 | The Shannon Sharpe situation proves that theres a significant proportion of older man-young woman relationships that are kept out of public eye and we don't know aboutYeah, not saying all men say this but I’ve seen many men on here who condemn and shame women who do OF, then turn around and admit if they were a woman they would absolutely do OF lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/25 11:22 AM |
| 23 | Why do so many men in relationships lust after women online?Most people aren’t going to be in relationships with someone who is the hottest person they’ve ever seen. Many people aren’t even going to be in relationships with someone who is their ideal physical type… because the reality is, many people’s 10/10 person look wise is out of their league. I agree with the other comment that many women go feral for a super attractive guy. It’s just that there’s far less men women would absolutely drool over than women men would. Women don’t follow attractive OF … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/25 02:31 PM |
| – | Typical dating advice for men vs typical dating advice for women shows who is really more entitledYeah but the problem with this line of thinking is tons of women who aren’t “dateable” (to that man) get approached for casual sex. Truly most of the general dating advice on social media is going to be bad, because you have to get specific context to actually give good advice to that individual. Probably the best general advice I’ve heard is - Who are the types of people you go for, and who do they generally go for? Are you that? If not, are you interested in making small or big changes to lean… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/25 02:43 PM |
| 1 | How true is the take that "women talk to one dude at time"Yeah I meant good looking guys who are good at sex too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/25 09:36 PM |
| 3 | How true is the take that "women talk to one dude at time"For most women, this is definitely true. why this is Women tend to hyper-focus on the guy/person they like the most out of their options. Men tend to have a “lowest bar I’ll accept” in terms of looks/personality/commonality etc… and everyone who meets it (and above) can get a shot. Casual sex with men is usually meh. Women often cum via clitoral stimulation and long oral… men in casual sex situations often don’t go down on a woman long enough and skilled enough to make her cum, if at all. When a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/25 02:42 PM |
| 8 | Onlyfans proves male hypergamy.“Most” attractive doesn’t mean they’re the ONLY group they lust after though. If I want to eat, I might crave sushi first, then pizza, then tacos, which are all foods I like. If tacos are the only option available, that doesn’t mean I won’t enjoy eating them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/25 07:46 PM |
| 3 | Onlyfans proves male hypergamy.Millions is a stretch, but there’s a 69 year old grandma making around 100k a year from it… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2jixgtCV1Jk&pp=ygUUNjkgeWVhciBvbGQgb25seWZhbnM%3D (Actually kind of wholesome but also sad… she could not afford to take care of her disabled son and got laid off after working the same job most of her life) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/25 07:38 PM |
| 42 | Stop being emotionally vulnerable to women, your close male friends are the only ones who can actually handle itI agree that’s a reason, but as a bi woman myself too (who’s dated both men and women) I don’t think that’s the main reason. Women are definitely given more leeway to “trauma dump” and share their emotional state and receive support. The threshold to be “too much” to many people is higher than men’s. Women are allowed to write songs about keying their boyfriend’s car and ruining their stuff out of emotion, they’re allowed to be insecure and constantly seek validation from their partner, etc. In … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/25 05:18 PM |
| – | Women's dissatisfaction with modern dating stems largely from their reliance on makeupI wasn’t talking about lying, the original comment was just about men who say from the beginning they’re not looking for anything serious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/25 07:33 PM |
| – | Women's dissatisfaction with modern dating stems largely from their reliance on makeupThere’s a subset of women (not the majority, but probably a decent % in the singles market) who have been stuck in FWBs/dead-end situationships with guys who didn’t want commitment with them. They hit 30 and decide they’re on a time crunch and need to find a LTR/marriage. They decide to date intentionally, which makes sense. But the problem is, they create standards and boundaries (not a bad thing) but forget in the process how to actually be a type of person someone would want to connect with. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/25 06:23 PM |
| – | Women's dissatisfaction with modern dating stems largely from their reliance on makeupI don’t understand the mocking men who are being completely honest about not being ready to settle down on societal timelines. Women often cheer other women on who decide to not make marriage/family a huge priority in their 30s, who live their life on their own timeline. Yet men are openly bashed and mocked for not fitting women’s exact timelines. No one is entitled to having a large dating pool looking for a relationship with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/25 05:51 PM |
| 54 | How can men learn/evolve to enjoy their single life like women and not be needy of long term relationships? How can single men live like single women?I’m going to be honest, and I’m sure I’ll probably be criticized but I don’t think most men will ever be fully happy being single. Part of this is because societal expectations make it harder for men to get support and validation through their platonic friendships. I do partially agree that men often don’t put in the effort to develop consistent friendships like women do. But I also realize that it’s a lot harder for men to “break into” certain social groups without offering anything of value… w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/25 04:21 PM |
| 18 | Women don't move on faster after a relationship ends. Men are just easier to replace.A lot of average/below average men don’t really have a “type” in the same way that women do. Or even if they do, they quickly realize that their type isn’t attainable to them and their options are to be alone forever or expand their preferences. As a bi woman, I do think there’s somewhat of a difference between nobody wanting you and your specific type not wanting you. It’s easier to be more confident when you have some validation that some people find you attractive and are interested in you. W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/25 02:05 PM |
| – | Why do you genuinely think men are more lonely now?It’s a combination of less socializing, and many having higher expectations than the effort they’re willing to put in. I think a lot of young men aren’t comparing their present experience to their past - instead they’re comparing to an ideal past (that didn’t really exist). It’s true that MeToo made more men on guard to approach IRL. But even before that, there weren’t that many more options to meet people. The options that existed then still exist today - if anything there’s far MORE options if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/25 01:39 AM |
| 2 | Do you think average men can treat average women poorly? Do you think men always treat women "in their league" well?That’s not how market economics works. People can acknowledge that McDonald’s is “low value” food - it’s artificial, unhealthy, and now overpriced. But if you’re really, really hungry and there’s no other food places in the area, most will happily eat it if the other option is to starve. Men have higher spontaneous sex drives (ie hunger) which allows women to be objectively the same or worse and still have “buyers.” So from a market pov, they are more “valuable.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/25 12:36 AM |
| 7 | Do you think average men can treat average women poorly? Do you think men always treat women "in their league" well?Attention, validation, money, time, etc. Men want sex more, so average women can require more than a “dick for pussy” trade and more easily find men willing to accommodate it. Just market economics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/25 10:15 PM |
| 7 | Do you think average men can treat average women poorly? Do you think men always treat women "in their league" well?Nah, pussy is inherently more valuable than dick. And highly attractive women also are a status symbol to brag and posture to other men, even if they don’t offer anything else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/25 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Why is toxicity rewarded in a dating setting like I know it makes them interesting but what about morals?The opposite sex (if that’s who you want to date) determines your desirability, not you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/25 10:32 AM |
| 5 | Why is toxicity rewarded in a dating setting like I know it makes them interesting but what about morals?I’ve seen it be used here many times to include confident guys who get a lot of women, but isn’t ready for a LTR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/25 02:42 AM |
| 5 | Why is toxicity rewarded in a dating setting like I know it makes them interesting but what about morals?I’ve said this so many times here, and men don’t believe me… But the guys I’ve personally known who got the most women were charismatic and social. Not always super good looking or tall. They usually were decent looking, but not super hot. Taller than most women (5’9 or taller) but not 6’. But they were OUTSIDE - at the bars/clubs, house parties, social events, live music events, stand-up comedy shows, downtown on the weekends, karaoke bars, etc… They just talked to women, a lot of women. They s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/25 02:00 AM |
| 7 | Why is toxicity rewarded in a dating setting like I know it makes them interesting but what about morals?desirable women I’m assuming by “desirable” you mean some of the following - younger, slim or fit, decent looking face, feminine, no kids, no questionable past, sweet etc… Those women are in high demand - Ned needs to come to grips with the fact that if he’s not as good looking as the women he’s going after, he needs to be exceptional at something else. Talent, charisma, confidence, humor, money, status, etc… all ways Ned can improve. But yes if Ned stays average by most/all metrics then he’s pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/25 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Why is toxicity rewarded in a dating setting like I know it makes them interesting but what about morals?She’s really wonderful! I think her takes are very fair and balanced. She takes the time to truly understand modern dating dynamics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/25 01:50 AM |
| 11 | Why is toxicity rewarded in a dating setting like I know it makes them interesting but what about morals?It’s not really just women who are being lied to - it’s everyone. There are tons of men in their 30s+ who had casual relationships in their youth, and are now struggling to find a real relationship. Tons of “Peter Pans” who want something real, but also are attracted to toxic women and casual sex. Tons of guys who can’t keep a LTR because their issues aren’t as attractive to women who aren’t 20. Being in this space is going to create a bias. As a bi woman, the same issues I’ve seen with women is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/25 10:57 PM |
| 3 | Why is toxicity rewarded in a dating setting like I know it makes them interesting but what about morals?I think dating human beings means accepting that everyone is going to have trauma they need to work through. You have to pick what trauma you can deal with. If you don’t want to date a previously promiscuous woman, don’t. If you can’t find any woman who isn’t who wants you, you can cultivate a meaningful life being single. People don’t really care about you until you meet a deep need of theirs - that goes for both men and women. No one is going to shape their life to accommodate a potential part… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/25 10:52 PM |
| 3 | Why is toxicity rewarded in a dating setting like I know it makes them interesting but what about morals?It depends on what you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/25 08:39 PM |
| 33 | Why is toxicity rewarded in a dating setting like I know it makes them interesting but what about morals?A few reasons: • Both ugly and attractive men can be toxic. But a toxic man will have more options because he’s attractive. • “Intermittent reinforcement” (aka hold/cold behavior - he texts you consistently then ghosts then randomly comes back etc) hijacks our reward system in our brain. Lots of dopamine. It’s kind of like being starved, and then finally getting some food. The food is going to feel a lot more amazing, because you were being depleted of it. Many people mistake “sparks” for anxiet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/25 08:30 PM |
| 13 | Average guys are expected to abide different rules when it comes to datingThis is more reasonable if you met organically, and then exchanged numbers and planned a date… But on dating apps? That’s hard. Many men don’t take great photos of themselves, or market themselves in a way that builds “high attraction” for women from the start. Many men really shine in 3D, not 2D. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/25 07:26 PM |
| 19 | Average guys are expected to abide different rules when it comes to datingNot every woman bases their decisions purely off looks though. How can you know if you’d be attracted to someone unless you go on a date with them? It’s normal to be “lukewarm” about someone you go on a date with, because you probably don’t know them well. It could be argued it’s more weird to automatically be “sold” on someone, solely based off the way they look. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/25 07:08 PM |
| 10 | Those of you 30+ and are/were single at this age: did you start getting "flooded with attention" the moment you turned 30?I partially agree, but partially disagree. I think there’s a decent amount of “above average” guys who might’ve not gotten as much attention in their 20s, because they weren’t the charismatic, ‘life of the party’ types. Or because they were good looking, but not super hot and not approaching tons of women en masse. What happens is many of the super hot guys (who mainly coasted on their looks and maybe social skills) become less hot because of lack of effort/weight gain/too much drinking or drug … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/25 05:38 PM |
| 12 | Some guys really need to sexualize interactions with women moreThere’s a middle ground for guys who hit the “neutral” looks bar for many women, but aren’t hot. Those guys can up their charisma and social skills, and become attractive to some women. I don’t think giving the advice to watch Chad friends as helpful. I’m a pretty woman, but not insanely hot. Watching my super hot friends did nothing but erode my self-esteem, because I likely won’t ever be hot enough to have men falling at my feet immediately like they could. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/25 06:36 PM |
| 24 | Why do women usually get offended when you approach/dm their friend and them also?That “gross” feeling men have for women sleeping with other men, is a similar feeling a woman can have when a guy asks both her and her friend out. Women also don’t want to be settled for. If you ask my friend out, she rejects you… then you ask me out… I’m going to assume you’re more attracted to her than me. Why would I want to date you then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/25 03:38 AM |
| 17 | Women are primarily the choosersIt’s only men who are attractive enough to get consistent dates, who generally gatekeep commitment. Unattractive men usually don’t gatekeep anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/25 03:34 AM |
| 32 | Why do women usually get offended when you approach/dm their friend and them also?Men also aren’t rational. They don’t like single moms or promiscuous women because it’s clear proof he’s not that special and she didn’t specifically choose him. She also chose other men. That’s also why they hate the idea a woman would wait to sleep with him, if they ever slept with another guy quicker. He wants to feel like he’s the most special, the most valuable to her. Not that much different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/25 03:29 AM |
| 53 | Why do women usually get offended when you approach/dm their friend and them also?It just comes across desperate. Most people want to feel special. They want to feel like you specifically chose them and saw something unique in them. Not that you’re just hitting on every woman in your proximity like throwing spaghetti at the wall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/25 03:15 AM |
| 8 | What exactly is the “female gaze” and what would fall under it?Yup, this ☝️ You can get away with A LOT more when you’re famous and/or already have high status. Take away the fame and status, and many women would just assume he’s gay and not be interested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/25 02:32 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The next generation of women will have an even harder time datingAnd I know tons of average and below average men who don’t struggle with dating. Men here will love to throw stats in when it helps position their argument, and then disregard it when it does not. Vast majority of women don’t do any form of SW. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/25 07:24 PM |
| 7 | Do you basically use hookups to get with men who otherwise wouldn’t consider you?Sleeping with a guy the first day you meet him is risky. Could he murder me? Will he try to sexually assault me? Will he try to take the condom off? Or pressure me to not wear one? Will he care about my orgasm? I don’t “use hookups” to get men who wouldn’t be interested in me, but I’d like a guy I have sex with to have some accountability towards my well-being. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/25 07:05 PM |
| 9 | CMV: The next generation of women will have an even harder time datingI don’t have the energy to pull up the stats, but I looked into this a few weeks ago and it was closer to 1%. You have a bunch of rage-bait RP podcasts grifting and throwing in these random stats that aren’t at all representative. Most women aren’t social media influencers, have private or non-known profiles and regular jobs. But algorithms push attractive OF women, and so men hyper-focus on those women and extrapolate “data” based on that small subset. (ETA - Many women who do OF or sex work al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/25 06:47 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The next generation of women will have an even harder time datingHahaha I still remember this one popular girl in middle school who put me on her “top 8” on MySpace and I was stoked because I definitely was not popular | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/25 04:59 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The next generation of women will have an even harder time datingThis is true, but the thing is… social hierarchy has always existed. I knew who the popular people were in middle school and high school. Usually they were good looking, confident, rich, often a combo of the 3. People in the middle of the hierarchy had some friends and relationships, but not everyone vying for their attention. People at the bottom got little to nothing. The algorithms online really just amplified the dynamics that already existed IRL. It is true that people are less social, beca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/25 04:46 PM |
| 4 | CMV: The next generation of women will have an even harder time datingHonestly I came out as bi at 13 (before it was socially acceptable) and had a pretty serious relationship with a girl in high school that I’d classify as that even to this day. … but I do think there is an immaturity gap between boys and girls at that age, and it creates a disconnect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/25 04:33 PM |
| 10 | CMV: The next generation of women will have an even harder time datingWe (or I) kind of did 🤪 We had “MySpace Top 8” friends list lol. You got to find out EXACTLY where you rank to all the people in your life, and change their order based on how mad at them you were. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/25 04:01 PM |
| 98 | CMV: The next generation of women will have an even harder time datingI think sometimes people look back on the past with rose-colored glasses. I’m a 29F (turning 30 in a few months) and when I was in high school and college, men were ALSO not serious about relationships, asking for spicy pics, and preferring/looking at women who showed more skin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/25 03:53 PM |
| 3 | How hard do you think it actually is to date as a heterosexual man.I’m not gonna give you flack for it, that just hasn’t been my experience. A lot of those same women were not initially interested in me until they got to know me better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/25 04:42 PM |
| 14 | Women definitely equate (involuntarily) single men with losersI mean, I think it’s common for BOTH genders that after a certain age, people start to question “what’s wrong” with someone who seems attractive on paper but is perpetually single. And it’s a generalization with some truth - most people want romantic partnership (when it’s healthy). Most people aren’t “single by choice” - they’re single because they can’t find what they’re looking for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/25 04:08 PM |
| 4 | How hard do you think it actually is to date as a heterosexual man.I will say, as a bi woman… I’ve been able to date women who were more physically attractive than I am by proximity and having similar hobbies/vibing well. The same cannot be said about men. The only way I got more attention from guys was by becoming more physically attractive. Sure, the other stuff like therapy/common hobbies/charisma etc were things they liked me about me AFTER deciding I was hot enough for them to date. I do agree that men have a shorter list, but I also think they’re stricter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/25 04:05 PM |
| 3 | Sexual Shame in WomenI don’t know if it’s always about attraction, as much as it is that people are selfish… and what’s the point in doing more than what’s required when you get the same outcome anyway? The validation generally comes from the fact the woman was willing to sleep with him in the 1st place. If she thinks he’s amazing in bed that’s usually just a bonus | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/25 08:09 PM |
| 2 | Sexual Shame in WomenI didn’t say it was the “key” to all we desire. You’re right that it doesn’t guarantee anything, but when you have one person to continue to practice on and improve… that’s generally going to give you better odds than hooking up once with a random person. I’m not focused on drunk hookups or ONS, I’m largely referring to more regular partners This is anecdotal, but I don’t think regular sex partners you’re not dating are very common outside of niche communities. Real FWBs are hard to find, cause … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/25 08:06 PM |
| 25 | Sexual Shame in WomenI’m open to casual sex. The problem is, casual sex often isn’t good. If a guy doesn’t care about you, he often doesn’t care about getting you off. Many women need clit stimulation and long oral to cum. Casual sex often doesn’t have men putting in that amount of work. Then there’s the danger/stealthing risks. Often guys don’t want to wear condoms, or can’t stay hard with them. This is affecting a lot of younger guys now because of 🌽. I would say I’m probably more sociosexual than most women. Even… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/25 02:02 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: What is worse selling sex or buying sex?Yeah that’s a bit different. If it’s obvious you’re physically attractive and could get women, but you pay for it because you’re famous and want decretion… more women will overlook that vs knowing you couldn’t without paying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/25 04:59 PM |
| 9 | It has never been easier to date as a manI agree that there’s a lot more opportunity to date and meet people, but I wouldn’t say it’s “never been easier to date as a man” because: 1) Social media has made a lot of people’s expectations higher. You’re right that “average looking” people pair up no problem, but a lot of people (esp younger) don’t want average anymore. The people they see on social media are generally top 30% of looks, so now you have people who are objectively more attractive than the majority of the population being cal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/25 04:25 PM |
| 8 | Q4Women: What is worse selling sex or buying sex?Most women would not date a sex worker or someone who buys sex. That being said, more women would probably date a sex worker over a man who buys sex. The reason is simple - a sex worker implies you’re attractive enough that people will pay for your sexuality, while a sex buyer implies you’re so unattractive you have to pay for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/25 04:09 PM |
| – | Do u feel u settled?Do you consider it “settling” if you don’t end up buying the flashy, shiny car you wanted as a teenager and instead choose a car that fits your lifestyle? Yes, you still want to like the look of it… but other things also become equally or more important. The odds your 10/10 physical ideal is also going to be compatible romantically and want you back is very rare. If you get someone you’re still very attracted to, who you grow and build with, that’s the opposite of settling. I dated “the super ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 04:25 PM |
| 0 | Q4M: How would you feel if women acted like "fukgirls"?I don’t get what you’re asking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/25 05:44 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: How would you feel if women acted like "fukgirls"?Yup, agree with this. I think if you’re a woman just looking for casual, it’s actually better to go for a guy who’s a bit more physically attractive than you… cause they’re better at keeping it casual. If you’re “in his league” or above, many guys will try to turn it into a LTR. I’m fine with casual as a 29F, and I don’t want kids. I used to believe the men here, saying that every man would be thrilled to not have to date you. Has not been my experience. Many guys in my age range are looking for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/25 04:16 PM |
| 25 | Q4M: How would you feel if women acted like "fukgirls"?Most men here are going to say they’d love it. They’re not lying, but they’re also not imagining a scenario where these women are women they’d want to date. To make this situation equal, you have to: • make the “fuck girls” far ABOVE the league of the types of women these men could date. • make sure to include these women are going to be flaky, non-communicative, not care about your sexual pleasure that much, and put other guys above you. • make sure they understand they’re not getting “gf benef… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/25 03:56 PM |
| 19 | Stop the "emotional labor"I think a big problem with this is that women often have other outlets (like friends and family) to vent to or seek emotional support from. Men often have less friends, no friends, or friends who aren’t very emotionally supportive. Many of them heavily rely on their female partner as their sole emotional support system. That in itself can create an unequal labor dynamic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/25 01:56 PM |
| 10 | If the roles were reversed and women were held to the same dating standards as men they would be just as hateful and bitterI’m a bi woman. Women’s standards for other women are very different than their standards for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/25 03:23 PM |
| 4 | Redpill tropes hold true when it comes to most basic girl/normie womenThis is so true. I’ve also noticed that in the online relationship space, there are some men who are “dating couches for women” who literally say the same thing as RP guys… but because it’s less offensive like you said, women take it better. Like this video: https://www.tiktok.com/@datingcoachanwar/video/7312088190947478826 He’s literally saying the same thing RP does - that women are shooting outside of their league. But most of the comments are positive/understanding. I think this is just a di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/25 02:26 PM |
| 38 | Mens' online dating experience is strictly worse than womens'I’d argue the 2 small groups that are served on online dating apps are women who want to hookup, and super hot guys who just want sex and aren’t too picky about who it’s with. I’d argue even the good looking, stable guy looking for a LTR is going to not have a fun time… cause a lot of women on the apps aren’t ready for a LTR even if they think they are. And you’re still going to have to do a bunch of monkey tricks as a guy to get anyone near your level of looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/25 02:17 PM |
| 6 | Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enoughI mostly agree with you, but sometimes - shockingly! - looks aren’t the only reason you could reject somebody. In my early 20s, I would go out with friends and sometimes a guy would approach them. It would become obvious when his friend would start talking to me only because his friend “called dibs” on my hotter friend. Even when the friend talked to me, the energy would be flat and like he was doing me a favor. Why would I be into that? I also have a conventionally attractive friend who has ner… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/25 02:50 PM |
| 9 | Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enoughYou’d be surprised. Many women who are looking for a LTR don’t bother if the guy is too hot. They know the chance of them getting pumped and dumped increases a lot if the guy looks like a supermodel and she’s below average. Of course, some women will still try. Some men do too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/25 02:35 PM |
| 5 | Modern dating is in the state it is today due to Women’s romantic interest and attention now essentially becoming the most dominant if not only currency (in The West)This woman was literally on Tinder specifically looking for casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/25 09:57 PM |
| 18 | Modern dating is in the state it is today due to Women’s romantic interest and attention now essentially becoming the most dominant if not only currency (in The West)lol yup. They’ll fuck women they’re barely attracted to, and they’re upset women don’t do the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/25 09:37 PM |
| 13 | How do RedPillers explain the situations where a man is neither a peak physical specimen/hot, rich and successful etc. but still has success in dating and casual sex?That’s not his point though. Because according to him, even getting a LTR with a “8+ woman” still wouldn’t be good enough to satisfy RP men’s version of ‘successful’. I understand the desire to be a man who can get dates easily, so that you have options and don’t feel drawn to settle for the first woman who gives you attention. … But that’s not what this man is saying. He wants multiple (super hot) women who will abandon their own their standards and boundaries… and settle for being a sex object… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/25 04:10 PM |
| 6 | How do RedPillers explain the situations where a man is neither a peak physical specimen/hot, rich and successful etc. but still has success in dating and casual sex?It’s not rare at all, I promise you. Many women go out with the purpose of BOTH having fun with friends AND possibly meeting partners. Is it every woman? No, but it’s many of the single ones. Even if they’re not explicitly looking, they’re still open to it if there’s a vibe with someone. Most women aren’t ever going to go out to bars/clubs alone. That’s a safety risk. That’s doesn’t mean they’re not still open to meeting someone. The best strategy for men in these situations is men go when a fri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/25 01:30 PM |
| 20 | How do RedPillers explain the situations where a man is neither a peak physical specimen/hot, rich and successful etc. but still has success in dating and casual sex?This is why it’s so hard at times to take RP seriously, because some men moan and groan about women’s “high standards” then post crap like this. I highly doubt you are an 8+/10, sir. And even if you were, you’re talking about some of the most attractive women in the world. What incentive do those women have to be on some average dude’s roster? Those women have a zillion options for both casual sex AND commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/25 01:23 PM |
| 9 | How do RedPillers explain the situations where a man is neither a peak physical specimen/hot, rich and successful etc. but still has success in dating and casual sex?He’s saying “women who are a 8+” not “8+ women.” He’s basically saying RP men only define success as men who can sleep with women who are “significantly above average looking” - aka 8+/10. Aka delulu land 😇 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/25 01:17 PM |
| 4 | How do RedPillers explain the situations where a man is neither a peak physical specimen/hot, rich and successful etc. but still has success in dating and casual sex?I really doubt that. Sure, sex will happen by going on a date or a few dates. But women are generally on the apps looking for LTRs, and will often get strung along by men not being honest about only wanting casual sex with them. I’m talking about actual casual sex, where it’s understood that it’s just casual. A lot of RP guys seem to want casual sex to happen as if they’re ordering a pizza from DoorDash. They don’t find the environments that women tend to predominantly have casual sex fun, they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/25 01:05 PM |
| 11 | How do RedPillers explain the situations where a man is neither a peak physical specimen/hot, rich and successful etc. but still has success in dating and casual sex?I don’t think a lot of RP guys realize that the vast majority of casual sex happens in drinking/drug environments with people who are social. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/25 12:49 PM |
| – | I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realiseI know I’m being “that person”… but I do feel like this is what dating apps do to (some) women. Most women were limited to the men around them, who they met through school, hobbies, or friends. But when you get on a dating app, suddenly the apps front-load the hottest guys in a 25-50 mile radius. And if you meet a guy (as an average woman) who’s super hot, fit, charismatic, amazing in bed but he doesn’t want a relationship… it’s not going to be the easiest thing to “downgrade” to a guy who’s mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/25 05:24 PM |
| 21 | Why Do Unsuccessful Men on this Sub Focus So Much On Women They Don’t Want To Date?The psychopath getting those love letters probably had his story go viral on social media… giving him more exposure to millions more women. Even if 0.000001% of the female population wrote letters to him, and 99.9999999% of women think he’s insane, that’s still a chunk of women. The “good guy who got arrested for a petty crime” likely did not get social media exposure. It’s not that ‘more’ women want to date the psychopath, it’s that the 2nd guy doesn’t have the exposure the first guy does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/25 02:42 PM |
| 7 | Why Don’t Straight Women Acknowledge That Dating Is Easier for Them?You are absolutely right that women have to vet more for danger/safety risks. But in terms of relationship vetting, many women aren’t vetting for things like reliability. They vet heavily on looks/charm/charisma, and then try to make that guy boyfriend (or husband) material regardless of how lacking that guy is in character. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/25 05:30 AM |
| 11 | Why Don’t Straight Women Acknowledge That Dating Is Easier for Them?There’s a lot of quality men on the apps, who look better in person and/or don’t take great photos. And the majority of them are going to get auto-rejected on the apps. Men have to ask out women they don’t know but women have to vet men who ask them out. Men have to vet women too. They have to bear the entire brunt of rejection, and initiate the date… just for the opportunity to also vet her. What’s more and what’s less labor? Getting approached first, getting asked out, someone else planning fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/25 04:10 AM |
| 2 | Why Don’t Straight Women Acknowledge That Dating Is Easier for Them?🥂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/25 02:35 AM |
| 5 | Why Don’t Straight Women Acknowledge That Dating Is Easier for Them?I agree it shouldn’t be! I’m just saying what it currently is, not what should be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/25 01:57 AM |
| 1 | Why Don’t Straight Women Acknowledge That Dating Is Easier for Them?Again, I don’t think that particular perspective applies to many women. I’m just talking about me. I’m also very lucky to not have experienced catcalling and sexual remarks when I was younger. I avoided sex until I was almost 20, and my first experience was with a boyfriend and not pressured. All of this, combined with the fact I was mostly invisible to men until college, made me have a positive view on male attention. Admittedly, I probably just enjoyed feeling attractive for the first time in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/25 01:56 AM |
| 0 | Why Don’t Straight Women Acknowledge That Dating Is Easier for Them?Some leadership abilities include: Starting the conversation, asking her on the date, planning the date, picking her up, etc. Many women do want this, though I’m not in any way trying to imply I’m the “holy grail”… and I’m absolutely open to being challenged on my beliefs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/25 01:42 AM |
| 16 | Why Don’t Straight Women Acknowledge That Dating Is Easier for Them?Continue to date. But you have to play up whatever you can, and use whatever advantages you have. That’s just the reality. Any of these: tall, fit, charismatic, status, talented at something, leadership ability, confident, financial stability, nice hair, stylish clothing, playful humor, sexual skills, interesting lifestyle… Will make you attractive to a larger % of women. Some guys are better off playing the numbers, I’ve also seen average guys get women by really leaning into a niche. So the ad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/25 11:59 PM |
| 10 | Why Don’t Straight Women Acknowledge That Dating Is Easier for Them?Let me preface this with, I’m an oddball and my answer likely isn’t representative of the “average woman”… I find attention from ALL men validating, as long as it doesn’t come at the cost of my safety. I don’t find sex with men validating anymore, regardless of how “hot” they are. I have sex for orgasms, not validation. But I definitely did at 21. It probably doesn’t help that I’m a glutton for punishment and enjoy the dumpster-fire that is RP… which really cemented some of my theories that sex … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/25 11:50 PM |
| 29 | Why Don’t Straight Women Acknowledge That Dating Is Easier for Them?Agree with all of this. The other thing I noticed, during periods where I acted “emotionally unavailable” (usually after a breakup or when I wasn’t looking for a LTR) I had the most women interested in me. I think a lot of women think they like certain people in spite of certain qualities, when they actually like them because of them. And most people aren’t going to analyze their behavior enough to realize: “hey, I actually only like this person because they’re elusive/inconsistent, and that mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/25 11:41 PM |
| 136 | Why Don’t Straight Women Acknowledge That Dating Is Easier for Them?I’m a bi woman. I genuinely think it’s a lack of awareness. Straight women don’t date women. But they often have more support systems and a bigger social circle than a lot of men. Many (straight) women will be surrounded by women they think are awesome/quality individuals. But what happens is they assume that because the women are great friends, that they’d also be great romantic partners. This leads to the misguided belief that there’s “a lot more quality women in the dating pool than men”, whi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/25 10:00 PM |
| 5 | Women advise men to be confident, but also get annoyed if a guy has the audacity to think he has a chance with themAren’t men always saying to “choose better”? He shouldn’t date a woman who behaves that way and craves drama. The logic is she’s immature, but he’s just as dumb for dating her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/25 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Women advise men to be confident, but also get annoyed if a guy has the audacity to think he has a chance with themIf she’s harshly rejecting you, then she finds you unattractive physically… not neutral. (These women are mean and I don’t condone that behavior) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/25 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Women advise men to be confident, but also get annoyed if a guy has the audacity to think he has a chance with themI’m confused on what you’re asking? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/25 07:24 PM |
| 14 | Women advise men to be confident, but also get annoyed if a guy has the audacity to think he has a chance with themI agree with this, but there’s a “neutral” looks bar a lot of men fall into… where being confident can swing the pendulum to “attractive”. That being said, the guys opener is not a great way to have the most success. It’s better to start a platonic conversation first, and slowly throw in some light flirting. And then gauge her response. This is especially true for men who fall into that “neutral” looks bar - immediately asking a woman puts pressure on her to decide right then if she’s into you. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/25 06:53 PM |
| 9 | One of the biggest problems in dating is men *think* they want easy sex.Thank you 🙏 I’m definitely NOT red pill, there’s a lot of things many dudes do that I’m happy to debate/call out on this sub when I see it… But as someone who also dates women, (straight) women often have a lot of blindspots too about the way women act. Because they don’t have to actually date them lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/25 07:50 PM |
| 19 | One of the biggest problems in dating is men *think* they want easy sex.Yeah, I agree. It’s more about knowing the option is there. As a woman, I know if I wanted cheap attention tonight I could put on a cute dress, go to a bar, and smile at someone. And I’d get compliments, a conversation, and maybe even drinks bought (I don’t drink, just making a point)… I rarely take that option. But it’s nice knowing that option is there, even if it is cheap. And sometimes you’re just lonely. Maybe your friends are busy, you’re going through a breakup, work has sucked… Is a happ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/25 07:45 PM |
| 19 | One of the biggest problems in dating is men *think* they want easy sex.It’s not usually about the effort. It’s about the level of receptiveness. If you’re a super hot guy, women will often give you positive signals when you approach. The banter is easier to cultivate. You get more positive reinforcement, which makes the effort worth it. If you get rejected 9/10 times, most will get defeated. Women understand this, because the ones who have tried to approach men often stop because they say it doesn’t work. That they get rejected. I’ve said before as a bi woman, that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/25 07:38 PM |
| 23 | One of the biggest problems in dating is men *think* they want easy sex.Yeah, but most of the time “Chad” can get both casual sex and mutually fulfilling LTRs. I don’t believe most guys genuinely want to be manipulative and hurt women, they just want to know how it feels to be desirable… and what it’s like when women actually make it easy to connect with them. Like, I’m gonna be honest. I’ve never met a “Chad” who tons of women want to bang, but none of those same women wanted to date. Am I saying they don’t exist? No, I’m sure they exist somewhere. But most of the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/25 07:27 PM |
| 3 | One of the biggest problems in dating is men *think* they want easy sex.I think this is mostly a revenge fantasy. Men who can attract women for casual sex 95%+ of the time can attract them for LTRs too. Those men also generally get “gf benefits” from a large portion of those women. So they don’t just get casual sex, they also get the cuddling, kissing, emotional talks, support, etc. Just without having the responsibility of monogamy, and having the dynamic on their terms. I think it’s a similar “RP revenge fantasy” to when men say that “Stacy” will eventually get ol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/25 05:28 PM |
| – | When you ask a girl out in social circle, you’re not just risking rejection. You’re risking your reputationYeah… in most social environments, you only get a few “at bats” before your reputation is on the line. Which kinda sucks if there’s a place that’s really your vibe, and has a high % of hot people… but most of them are regulars. Like you said, the best way to go about it is to start platonic conversations, be socially calibrated, and send out/look for IOIs. Even then, you could still be wrong and get rejected if you shoot your shot. This is why I understand men’s complaints about dating apps. Peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/25 05:15 PM |
| 8 | It’s not worth it for men to have female friends, too many downsides, not enough benefit.I think it can be both. Sometimes people do, but usually people don’t spend a lot of time and energy on people they don’t like at all. When I’ve had this happen to me, it was usually because the person liked my personality but not sexually attracted… or the attraction wasn’t strong enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/25 02:09 PM |
| 3 | It’s not worth it for men to have female friends, too many downsides, not enough benefit.It depends on what you mean by “friendzoned myself.” If I would’ve been honest about wanting more, I would’ve gotten rejected. But I also would’ve had a definitive answer sooner so I could’ve moved on. So in a way, I guess that is doing it to myself. But I wasn’t innocent. I didn’t want to get rejected; I wanted to get the person I liked to like me back. But I knew their interest wasn’t high enough, so I tried to take the round-about way of showing how awesome I was to eventually win their favor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/25 01:48 PM |
| 100 | It’s not worth it for men to have female friends, too many downsides, not enough benefit.Bi woman here. I’ve experienced the type of friendship you’re talking about, but you probably won’t get much understanding here from (straight) women. I had to take responsibility for my role in the situation though - I was being disingenuous. I was attracted to these women, and was scared of rejection for being upfront about it. So I gave endless support, validation, and dropped what I was doing in hopes they’d eventually reciprocate the feelings. Because if the potential for sex or romance was… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/25 11:18 PM |
| 6 | Women feel they are the same value as any guy they have sex withAs a bi woman, I think it’s easier to not fully think about why you’re attracted to certain guys. Because women aren’t usually the pursuers, and it’s easier for them to get dates. But when you’re trying to date women, it’s a lot harder to not access your “value” on the dating market. Because the rejection is a lot more upfront, and it’s harder to get dates. Many women will go on dates with men they’re attracted to… and if it doesn’t work out, it’s easy to just chalk it up to lack of compatibilit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 07:07 PM |
| 15 | Women feel they are the same value as any guy they have sex withEh, I disagree with this. Most people (esp under 30) go for chemistry first, and then judge compatibility later. “Chemistry” usually being a mix of physical attractiveness, charisma, good banter, confidence and societal status. All the above is going to be a subconscious calculation of how “attracted” you are to that person, and how rare you feel they are in comparison to your other options. Not everyone likes the same traits, but there’s tons of overlap in what people find attractive… and I don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 05:50 PM |
| – | If dating dynamics were changed, women would not use the same argumentsTo be honest… a lot of this is just seeing other people get certain things. The human ego is a fragile thing. You see other people dating and getting “special” treatment and you think: hey! I want that too! For many, “accepting less” to them means admitting they’re not attractive enough to get that treatment. For men, it’s often seeing the popular hot guy get easy, casual sex. For women, it’s seeing the popular hot girl get swarms of guys willing to pay for her. It doesn’t matter what’s fair or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/25 04:29 PM |
| – | Napoleon complex would never slide if it was directed towards womenThere’s 2 reasons for this I think: 1) Women are primarily the ones who started these social campaigns. And other women joined the cause. Men, overall, don’t really start causes to support and encourage each other. And when they do, a lot of times the focus is still on women. 2) Women control 85% of purchases, so they have a lot of spending power for companies. These campaigns often get picked up by companies to increase profit, increasing their visibility. I will say this… I do think some men c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/25 02:55 PM |
| 3 | Speed dating is the most brutal dating settingYeah this is probably more true on average. In my exes case, she had an open demeanor and friendly face. Not RBF at all. So despite her attractiveness, many people still did approach her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/25 10:38 PM |
| 2 | Speed dating is the most brutal dating settingThank you for your condolences 💐 There are many ways to be attractive. I think the problem is that some of them are instantly seen (like being physically hot), while others can take longer to make an impression. But looks are a deprecating asset, while personality can be maintained or even improved into old age. Looks can be maintained, but there’s going to be a time when most can’t look 25… no matter how hard they try. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/25 09:46 PM |
| 9 | Speed dating is the most brutal dating settingI know this response will probably get buried, but I think it’s important to write anyway. I’m a bi woman, and my ex-girlfriend was the hottest woman I’ve ever dated. Probably always will be, she looked like a supermodel. I’m cute, but no where near that level. Everywhere we went, and I mean everywhere, she would get hit on. Even at gay bars (where I had been told “women don’t pursue first”) women would come up to her. When she told them she was with me, they’d size me up like they figured I was… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/25 07:22 PM |
| 4 | How come women dont realize how hard is it for men to get laid ?That might be the rate if he’s only looking for one night stands. Which is a dumb strategy. Most sexually successful men I know have a roster. The majority of the sex they have comes from FWBs/casual dating, not one night stands. You’re shooting yourself in the foot if you only want sex with new women and only on the night you meet them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 10:39 PM |
| 0 | There should be a dating app that showed you your elo scoreThank you for this. I sometimes wonder if this is the difference between Reddit population and dating app population. Reddit leans more alt, neurodivergent, nerdy, etc. Dating apps generally have a mix, but way more conventional (and conventional looking) people. Maybe it IS true that the people here have outlier types/preferences, but truly most people don’t. They think their preferences are super unique because they like the same conventionally attractive base features, but slightly bigger/sma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/25 03:31 PM |
| 24 | Dear women, he is not “emotionally unavailable” you are just his side pieceThis is often true, but not always. A growing number of men/women are also choosing to be single, because they don’t like the expectations put on them in committed relationships. Many men are tired of being the ones who have to initiate, pay, court, protect/provide etc for a woman who doesn’t reciprocate. Many women are tired of being the ones who have to bear children, be nurturing, cook/clean, and be a man’s sole emotional support when he doesn’t reciprocate. A growing # of people are just tir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/25 03:24 PM |
| 27 | “Men are looking for clean water in a desert while women are looking for clean water in a swamp” is the most misandrist analogy I ever heardI don’t completely disagree with you, but I do want to point out a few things: • Many men are sexually assaulted who don’t define it that way. Guy friends have told me stories about how drunk women have groped them in bars and it’s annoying, or about them having sex at 9-12 with a much older woman… but they might not define it as “sexual assault” in a report, because there’s a stigma against it for men. • Sexual assault might be much higher for men, but assault in general isn’t really gender-spe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/25 05:12 PM |
| 3 | Men devalue themselves by being promiscuous/repressing female sexuality“Take the greatest share of” that is what I mean. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 10:18 PM |
| 12 | Men devalue themselves by being promiscuous/repressing female sexualityI think a lot of guys misrepresent what they’re actually trying to say. I partially agree with you, but it’s more like the hottest local guy on Tinder will get the majority of the hookup opportunities. The hottest guy who’s a local at the bar and charismatic will monopolize hookups with the women who go there. The guys here aren’t talking about long-term 30+ couples or couples who marry out of high school. They’re not really even talking about introverted people. They’re talking about a specific… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 09:41 PM |
| 6 | Men devalue themselves by being promiscuous/repressing female sexualityThere’s a reason there’s no “Grindr” for lesbians, and why most lesbian bars end up failing. Women overall prefer long-term monogamous relationships, or at least don’t prefer random casual sex. Gay men are men. Higher libido and less sexually selective about everyone. Do an experiment, seriously- get on a lesbian dating app like HER, and then make a Grindr as a cis woman. Have a bio saying you’re looking for casual hookups and you’re a cis woman. I would bet money even on an app where most dudes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 09:36 PM |
| 5 | Men devalue themselves by being promiscuous/repressing female sexualityDefinitely over-exaggerated, I agree. But it’s more that a lot of younger women will aim 2 points higher or so. So it’s not that every woman is looking for a 10. It’s that a 5 will use dating apps to hookup with 7s, and she doesn’t realize that guy is out of her league because it’s not “so” unrealistic it couldn’t happen. (Btw I do think the point system is dumb, for the sake of debating we have to make some ranking order here) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 09:28 PM |
| 0 | Men devalue themselves by being promiscuous/repressing female sexualityThat’s not because of zero stigma though. That’s because many people who like women find a wider range of women attractive than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 09:23 PM |
| 9 | If men objectify women with their bodies, women objectify men with their ressources.I agree with you, but the same could be argued the opposite. Most men want porn to exist on some level, and they want to be able to consume it when they’re horny. But they want the performers to “stay in their lane” as objects, and not be able to do human things (like get married, have kids, etc) without being shamed… BUT they feel themselves consuming porn should be accepted, and have no bearing on whether they find love/acceptance/a relationship/respect etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/25 02:54 AM |
| 7 | What makes a woman want to sleep with a man, regardless of intentions?Most men I know who get casual sex easily are charismatic and have a large social circle. And then obviously looks. It’s a lot easier when you have a large social circle to hop around places and invite people (/women) into your good time. Women are usually with their own friend group when they go out too. The majority of women I know who occasionally enjoy casual sex don’t use dating apps. Many of them also end up hooking up with men who are vetted within their social circle or familiar hangout … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/25 01:43 AM |
| 5 | Q4M: Why do you misunderstand or malign well-intentioned dating advice?I read this and some of your comments. Can I give some constructive feedback? You say that you’re letting women know before the date that you want to go dutch. That’s going to be a mood-killer, even for a woman who’s fine paying her own way. There’s tons of free activities you can suggest (especially when it’s warmer out): the park, beach, a walk, meetup sometimes has free social events you can checkout. You’re free to reject women who only want to do dates that cost money, especially for a firs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/25 06:22 PM |
| 4 | Q4M: Why do you misunderstand or malign well-intentioned dating advice?As someone whose ex-girlfriend ODed and died last summer from the cocaine/alcohol combo, I strongly do not recommend picking up an addiction just to get sex. People are dropping left and right from fentanyl being laced in everything. You take the wrong bump and you’re gone. You can’t even fully test it, because it takes such a small amount to kill you but the part you test might not have it. It’s easier to get sex as a dude in those environments, no doubt about it but it’s a very slippery slope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/25 05:53 PM |
| 2 | Why are so many women almost absolutely incapable of making or unwilling to make the first move?If a guy gives me a look like I’m a fucking weirdo when I compliment him, I’m not going to take it a step further and ask him out. Social calibration. Something many guys here don’t have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/25 03:36 PM |
| 8 | Why do some guys get so hostile if other guys admit to using escorts ?A lot of those same guys will only be happy if they’re seen as “hookup” material by women. They would be totally fine with women just finding them sexy and wanting to bang, even without emotional intimacy. It’s not about the connection IMO. It’s about wanting to be attractive enough to be able to get sex without having to pay for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 10:50 PM |
| 10 | Why are so many women almost absolutely incapable of making or unwilling to make the first move?I’m sure that was a part of it. But I’ve done it even without being drunk, and my main point is that men can be equally turned off by a woman coming on too strong. Especially one who’s not his specific type. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 07:54 PM |
| 11 | Why are so many women almost absolutely incapable of making or unwilling to make the first move?Yeah, I’ll definitely start a casual conversation with a guy out and about (at a social event/bar/club) if I find him attractive. But a lot of the men here who say: “You could say anything as a woman and a guy would say yes!” are terminally online and many have autism (no disrespect intended by this) so they’re not a good sample of how men act. I used to get too drunk and walk up to guys at bars and tell them they were good looking. They would often think I was weird and it was embarrassing. I w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 06:21 PM |
| 2 | Why are so many women almost absolutely incapable of making or unwilling to make the first move?Most women enjoy being in the position of being the pursued (not the pursuer), and if they don’t have to do it they’re not going to. They’ll do it if they don’t think there’s a chance someone of your caliber will approach them first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 06:13 PM |
| 7 | Why are so many women almost absolutely incapable of making or unwilling to make the first move?Because making the first move is scary, and many women are rejection-sensitive. Men are too, and becoming even more so. But men are still more conditioned to understand they have to play the numbers game, in a way women aren’t. Women are often more risk-averse; If they’re going to put themselves out there to get rejected, the payoff needs to be worth it. If a guy is just as attractive to her as most of the other guys who match with her on dating apps, she’s going to be less inclined to put speci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 05:35 PM |
| 22 | Why are so many women almost absolutely incapable of making or unwilling to make the first move?(Wo)men who approach first generally have two bars: Attractive enough to be open to an approach by him(/her), and attractive enough to be willing to approach him(/her). The 2nd bar is obviously going to be a more selective than the 1st. A woman will approach if you’re really her type to a T, and/or you’ve build some rapport so she feels a connection to you. The women you match with likely have some attraction to you, but not so much that you feel “urgent” to them. That could change though if the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 05:15 PM |
| 14 | What % of men do you think are both unsuitable as relationship partners?Your last statement was interesting, and has matched my experience as a bi woman. I’ve dated bi women where we were friends first, or didn’t work out so stayed friends after. And I have to say, most of them had much higher standards for me than the men they dated. They were more willing to bend over backwards for the men in their lives in a way they’d never do for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 04:26 PM |
| – | I think a lot of people going forward have to just get over the idea of sex and relationshipsI would say they happen more from loose acquaintances than actually becoming friends first. I mention that because many men here will see the “friends first” advice, and think that means you should invest in a multi month/year+ friendship and THEN drop the bomb that you have feelings. The better strategy is to get to know her and have platonic conversations first, and then sprinkle in some playful flirting and see how she responds. If she dodges it, move on. If she flirts back or is receptive, s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 03:09 PM |
| 40 | Women's standards are perfectly reasonable, their "type" however eliminates most guys before they even have a chanceThe best way to figure out what someone’s attracted to is to look at their exes.* If you see a pattern happening over and over again, that’s most likely “their type.” If you’re not close to it, thread carefully. People can change and expand their preferences, and sometimes it is a coincidence. But often it’s not. I used to always go for men who preferred goth women. I’m not goth at all. I would do the same thing a lot of guys do here and cry about how I’m so nice and why don’t the guys I want, w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 10:08 PM |
| 11 | Women's standards are perfectly reasonable, their "type" however eliminates most guys before they even have a chanceMost women these days aren’t going to swipe “right” on a guy, if they don’t find him automatically sexy on first sight. 3rd spaces do exist, but are becoming less common. Men are being discouraged from approaching random women in person. Many men’s gripe is not they’re not being given a chance to showcase other qualities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 09:52 PM |
| 2 | How can men seduce women?seducing men is easy men are simple to please and easy to understand Mostly applicable for men who are not top of the hierarchy. Women spend a lot of time/energy trying to learn how to seduce highly attractive men into him choosing her over his other options. How to seduce women? Be as good looking as possible (looksmax) and be a fun time. Have some friends and a social life so you have interesting things to talk about. Approach women and talk to them as if they are cool and attractive, but don’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/25 05:58 PM |
| 44 | The current generation of daters are frustrated and entitled because we are in an uncomfortable transition period where what was standard, successful monogamy, is now the exceptionI mostly agree with this… though I do think you’re glossing over the fact that many of our grandparents were forced to be together for financial and societal reasons. The reality is, many (but not all) men also want things that their grandfathers didn’t get. They want consistent, enthusiastic sex (that she’s not faking), they want to feel desired for their looks/who they are (and not just what they do), and many also want (or need) the woman to go 50/50 on top of childcare/household responsibili… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/25 02:31 PM |
| 17 | Until men are allowed male-specific and non-feminist spaces the sex war will not end.I honestly feel like it’s the opposite. A common complaint you hear from men is that all the hobbies they go to, bars/clubs, social events etc are a sausage-fest… and they can’t find places with a lot of women. Men are basically everywhere. The actual problem is that many (not all) men don’t really value male friendship and community, unless whatever they’re doing also has the potential to meet women. You even see this play out in relationships too - women are more likely to have more friendship… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/25 08:47 PM |
| 15 | Most men who date a younger woman are not doing it for nefarious reasonsI agree with you, but I do want to point out that many women absolutely DO shame men past a certain age if they don’t want the same lifestyle. I’ve seen so many women joke about: “when 30+ guys are on dating apps and still looking for casual… like sir, your hairline is receding 💀”… but then in conversations like this, they act like it rarely/ever happens when it actually happens constantly. Many women shame random men for not being on the exact timeline they have for marriage/kids, calling men i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/25 12:18 PM |
| 26 | Both genders would be happier if women did the approachingWomen rarely approach in the way men approach though. They’ll often put themselves in guy’s proximity and be extra friendly and flirty - but they rarely actually say: “Hey, I think you’re cute. Want to go on a date?” They send tons of signals/IOIs but they often still leave it up to the man to ask her out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/25 06:34 PM |
| 16 | Wanting to matter to someone without being a healed woman's reward is not narcissism, it's humanThat’s exactly what he’s saying. When she’s your first choice, you’re not hers. When you’re her first choice, she’s not yours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 12:26 PM |
| 66 | Women who had toxic relationships when they were young and immature were not that different from sad virgin men.There’s a world of a difference. Having at least some validation that you’re attractive to some people, on some level, is so much better than getting absolutely nothing. We also have to define what we’re calling “toxic” here, because the above statement does not apply to physically abusive or dangerous relationships. However, if we’re just talking normal 20s relationship drama or mistakes… those experiences are helpful. I do think I have a semi unique perspective, as I’m a bi woman whose past ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 12:16 PM |
| 9 | Is it true most guys would cheat given the opportunity?Yeah, but what’s the opportunity? Some guys have some opportunity to cheat, but it’s with women they’re not (strongly) attracted to or it would require more effort than it’s worth. To test it, I think you’d actually have to give the men opportunity with a woman he finds extremely attractive who basically throws herself at him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 10:27 AM |
| – | Time to settle the dick size debate once and for all using data - women generally prefer bigger dicks until a certain point and the ideal size for most women is larger than average.I enjoy running a 5k once a year, but I definitely don’t want to be doing that everyday. Is this truly hard to comprehend that some people can enjoy some experiences without wanting them as a baseline? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/25 05:10 PM |
| 13 | Time to settle the dick size debate once and for all using data - women generally prefer bigger dicks until a certain point and the ideal size for most women is larger than average.The study said women prefer slightly larger for a one-time partner, but slightly smaller for long term. That makes sense to me. If you’re used to average-size penises as a woman, a larger one could be an exciting or novel experience. But the actual reality of taking that size long-term could start to lose its appeal. Sometimes you might just want regular sex that feels good and lasts a while without hurting you. The things people sometimes go for when it’s novel or for an ego- boost isn’t always… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/25 02:35 PM |
| 21 | Men are the ones who really settleI do have some empathy, because a lot of men here who post things like this have never been validated for their looks or sex appeal. It probably leads to some maladaptive behavior. The guy who was never able to feel desired by a hot 22 year old (even when he was 22) will (sometimes) continue to hyper-focus on that fantasy until it’s achieved. Many men who had hookups with attractive women in their 20s eventually realize it was fun, but now they want something deeper. And that’s usually with wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/25 05:07 PM |
| 13 | Men are the ones who really settleWe have to clarify what we’re defining as “settling.” Is it dating someone who is less than your absolute perfect 10/10 dream ideal person? Or is it dating someone who you’re barely attracted to? I think most of us understand we’re not getting our perfect person, either because they don’t exist or they’re way out of our league. But you start dating someone you’re attracted to (doesn’t have to be your perfect ideal), and then you build a connection and foundation and suddenly they’re the hottest … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/25 04:58 PM |
| 19 | Saying "Don't worry, you still have plenty of time for kids" to women who are like 35 is bad adviceMost millennials now can’t even afford a house without kids, nonetheless with kids. This is a pipe dream for most in the economy we’re living in now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 02:22 PM |
| 7 | It doesn't make sense when women claim that most men just want casual sex.I think this is also an age thing. Despite red pill dudes saying that “women expire after 25,” I’ve found way more men wanting to seriously date me at 29 than they did when I was 21. I don’t think is because I did anything different. I think a lot of men just realize somewhere around 27-35 that they’re tired of casual flings and want something deeper. But before 25, I’ve seen even really attractive and kind women struggle with finding LTRs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 02:52 PM |
| 13 | What do men mean when they say they love deeper than women?This is great. I’ve noticed a lot of people who say: “I feel like I just love harder and more intensely than other people”, actually are just more self-sacrificing and they expect their partners to eventually operate the same. I’ve dated a few people who just poured a ton into me very early into the relationship. What often happened is that they subconsciously kept a sort of “talley mark sheet” in their minds, and were operating under covert contracts. Example: I’ve had past partners pay for dat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/25 05:32 PM |
| 5 | Are most women standoffish because that is their nature or is it a social construct?I slightly disagree with this. I do agree that if a woman approaches a guy first and is explicitly sexual, the guy will probably just see her as a casual sex buddy. But if the woman starts a conversation first and is flirty but smart, emotionally intelligent and seems genuinely interested in getting to know him, I think most guys would still be 100% receptive and just as interested. The issue is 9/10 times, if a woman is approaching a guy first he’s usually a pretty attractive guy. Whether that’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/25 04:25 PM |
| 7 | Just be what they wantBezos can’t “only date single moms in their 50s.” He chose Lauren Sanchez because they run in similar social circles and liked each other. PPD dudes don’t realize that many guys just choose women they’re around and like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/25 06:40 PM |
| – | Dating for women is a swamp. Dating for men is a desert. Neither can ever sympathize with the others complaints, because we (say) we want want what the other has.As a bi woman, I have to disagree with this. Dating for women is a swamp, mainly because they’re extremely passive and rejection-sensitive. If you don’t believe me, ask any woman to go out and approach a hot guy first (or gal at a gay club if they’re queer) this weekend and you’ll give them a free drink. Many men will happily do this (and not get a free drink); most women will not even if they complain about their options. If you ask most women to write down their standards (even the ones you’ll… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 07:48 PM |
| 13 | Why don’t women like dating apps?I do understand the point you’re trying to make, but even respectful casual dating on the apps is hard to find. You’re thinking of scenarios where the man has respect for the woman, thinks she’s cool, thinks she’s sexy, enjoys her company… but maybe there’s some incompatibility for a LTR. That’s not often how it actually plays out. A lot of men will fuck people they DON’T find attractive. “Slum busting” is a term for a reason. Men will joke about the woman they picked up is a 10 at 2am, but a 2 … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/25 10:24 PM |
| 31 | As a bi woman, dating women is way harder than dating men.This is like a rich person telling a poor person “trust me, you’d get tired of all the money you’d have” I’m sure a part of it as true, that there’s still some problems… but most poor people would still trade your problems for theirs in a heartbeat lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/25 10:59 AM |
| 29 | As a bi woman, dating women is way harder than dating men.You’re not entirely wrong. I will say my experience has been more dating other bi women, so I relate a bit more to men in that way… because many bi women absolutely WILL “effortlessly move onto the next option”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 10:40 PM |
| 10 | As a bi woman, dating women is way harder than dating men.Thanks for the comment! I don’t think I value woman’s judgement of me higher than men’s… it’s that men’s communication style is much more overt when it comes to flirting. I’ve had many, many (MANY! lol) situations where the same woman will change her mind about doing something physical with me, based on the environment and whatever her mood was. And many women will openly flirt with other women without it meaning anything, so you don’t know if it’s what they want or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 08:47 PM |
| 48 | As a bi woman, dating women is way harder than dating men.Agree with this point 👍 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 05:53 PM |
| 98 | As a bi woman, dating women is way harder than dating men.This could be a whole other post, but I’m just speaking from my experience: In LTRs with men, I’ve felt a bit more “interchangeable” and that they were mostly choosing me for basic reasons vs knowing me on a deeper level. The fact I was pretty (to them), nice, would have sex with them and make them feel desired was sorta enough. Not that this is inherently wrong, but they didn’t really care as much about unique things about me. In LTRs with women, I felt the opposite. They cared about my opinion… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 05:49 PM |
| 9 | As a bi woman, dating women is way harder than dating men.Yeah, I think masculine lesbian women sorta naturally generally take the more assertive role. So it’s not as much of an issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 05:07 PM |
| 42 | As a bi woman, dating women is way harder than dating men.I 100% believe what you’re saying. But I think for every woman who thinks the way you do, there’s another one (or more) who doesn’t and wants their date to romance them. That’s why it’s so difficult to know what a specific woman wants, because you might communicate it but many don’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 05:03 PM |
| 15 | As a bi woman, dating women is way harder than dating men.I agree it’s easier for women to get hookups from women than it is for men, but I’d disagree it’s not just for LTRs but for dating in general. Especially going on dates with women from dating apps. I think I could probably pull a woman for a ONS if I went to a bar/club during peak hours, but I don’t drink… so there’s already a murky consent thing I’m not entirely comfortable with. I don’t care if a woman has a few drinks to take the edge off, but you often don’t know the difference between that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 04:59 PM |
| 11 | I’ll Answer the “Why Don’t Men Read Our Profiles?” Question.Sure, and women liking men who provide isn’t really a controversial statement either 🤷♀️ What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Play by whatever rules you want, but don’t be surprised when people play by theirs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 07:24 PM |
| 21 | I’ll Answer the “Why Don’t Men Read Our Profiles?” Question.Yup, and lot of women find men useful for money? 💵 It’s just a difference in biology 😏 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 07:04 PM |
| 53 | I’ll Answer the “Why Don’t Men Read Our Profiles?” Question.A lot of men don’t read bios because they figure many women can be “useful” to him in some way. For all the complaining from men about gold-diggers, beta buxxing, and OF girls, men have their own version of it called “What this could girl be useful for?” Doesn’t share the same political views? Cool, she’s a pump and dump. She doesn’t want kids and you do? Cool, she’s a situationship you lead on for a bit until you find your dream woman. She’s not that attractive to you, but you haven’t gotten an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 04:18 PM |
| 3 | Why do you not use dating apps as much as us men?You understand that Plan B can only prevent pregnancy if the woman isn’t already ovulating, right? It’s also not as effective if you’re 155lbs or higher. So while it is pretty effective, there are multiple ways it could fail. What you said before implied that you think a woman is retarded if she doesn’t want to fuck someone who voted for Trump or a conservative. I’m failing to see what’s inconsistent about matching with you on Tinder and not wanting to fuck you if you support Trump or taking awa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 01:15 AM |
| 10 | Why do you not use dating apps as much as us men?So what would make a woman on Tinder “not retarded” in your opinion? Are you looking for a conservative woman, who supports Trump, wants only casual sex with you, and is pro-life? … Cause many of those things kinda contradict each other. If you’re a pro-life and conservative woman, you’re probably looking for marriage. Not trying to have casual sex on Tinder. What happens when you have casual sex, the condom breaks, and she gets pregnant with your kid? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/25 09:25 PM |
| 2 | The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about it100%, and I think that’s dumb too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/25 05:54 PM |
| 1 | The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about itI don’t believe many of them intentionally lie. When you ask people what they’re attracted to, they tend to focus on whatever they were missing from previous people they dated. They don’t usually first think about what drew them to that person first, especially if the relationship ended poorly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/25 04:52 PM |
| 11 | Why do you not use dating apps as much as us men?Because the men I like dating either aren’t on them, or aren’t great at advertising themselves. I’m attracted to, and the most compatible with, men who are attractive and social… but not the hottest, most charismatic guy in the room. Dating apps (when I was on them) mainly composed of a large % of men who didn’t have many hobbies or friends, and were just looking for a gf to complete him… and a small % of super social, attractive fuckboys. I know the fuckboys wouldn’t treat me right, and I’m not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/25 04:39 PM |
| 12 | The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about it… And this is why I said most people are just going to quietly go for their preferences, instead of saying them. The hot, feminine, younger, fit women are always going to get the most attention despite how many average women don’t like it. The hot, fit, tall, rich men are always going to get the most attention despite how many average men don’t like it. You’re not going to “logic” someone into not being attracted to who they’re attracted to. People are going to date who they want to date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/25 02:59 PM |
| 8 | The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about itThey’re describing the relationship qualities they want. Here’s the thing - When women say what they’re actually attracted to, they often get dog-pilled on and shamed. Look how much backlash women get from saying they prefer men 6’ or over, or that they prefer men who have money. It’s easier to just quietly go for your preferences, rather than say your preferences and then have people tell you you’re a gold-digger or shallow, or that you need to give more men a chance. When women say their super… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/25 02:44 PM |
| 16 | The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about itMost people aren’t the good looking, popular people in high school. I wouldn’t envy that - the good news is, most of those people you were so jealous of end up gaining weight by 25 or 28, pop out a kid or multiple and are no longer the hottest ones in the room. What I’ve noticed (I’m 29) is it’s often the quiet teens who end up growing into themselves, who become and stay attractive. I don’t know how old you are, but this idea if you’re not the hot jock at 17 it’s time to give up entirely? is a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/25 02:29 PM |
| 62 | Why are so many attractive women on dating apps when they pretty much have unlimited options in real life already?I think you overestimate just how much attractive women get approached by men they want to date. Cold approaches are becoming less common outside of bars/clubs. Most guys at bars and clubs just want to get laid or have a fling. Many are younger (under 25 or 30) and are still in their heavy drinking phase. If you’re a hot woman who wants stability and a LTR, the men who cold-approach you statistically are more likely to be players. You could meet men through hobby groups and mutual friends, but t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/25 03:56 AM |
| 13 | Why are so many attractive women on dating apps when they pretty much have unlimited options in real life already?Bars and clubs are basically one of the worst places to find a long-term relationship, which is what most women want. Dating apps do often suck, but slightly better than going to a bar/club and mainly getting hit on by drunk men who just want to bang. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/25 03:43 AM |
| 12 | Do attractive men make worse partners ?I suspect that some of the women here know the angle RP guys are going for, so they answer in an attempt to prove them wrong. If you ask in other parts of Reddit and don’t appear to have an agenda, more women will admit that hot guys tend to have a bigger ego. But also, many might be answering truthfully but aren’t the target demographic of RP dudes. Attractiveness is a spectrum, and while I’m not claiming the women here aren’t dating good looking men… just statistically I don’t believe most of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/25 05:47 PM |
| 4 | Do attractive men make worse partners ?I’ve seen men like this too, and those guys wouldn’t be great in LTRs either. But I would argue it’s generally easier for those guys to avoid temptation when meeting a woman they really like, because all it requires mostly is not hitting on women first. Basically to stop playing offense… But with the super hot guy, they have to not only stop playing offense but also play defense. You might enjoy sushi, but you got the best spot in town and prefer that. So you should stop going to other sushi spo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/25 05:26 PM |
| 4 | Dear RP guys, the phrase “exist as woman get free stuff?” How does that work?So why should average women not expect men to pay for their dinner, when many of them are willing to do it for super hot women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/25 03:15 PM |
| 10 | Do attractive men make worse partners ?The fact that even attractive guys (let’s say above average- 6/7 or maybe even low 8) don’t usually get hit on by women first… and if they do they’re not hot women. But if you’re a super hot guy (8.5+) women will hit on you often, especially if you’re social and charismatic. The difference is just the amount of opportunity you get without having to expend much effort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/25 02:52 PM |
| 38 | Do attractive men make worse partners ?I think there’s a huge difference between “attractive” and “attractive enough that women will consistently hit on you first.” I’ve known guys in both the 1st and 2nd category. Guys in the 1st category are generally pretty great partners. Guys in the 2nd category generally aren’t. If you’re hot enough as a guy that tons of attractive women are hitting on you first, that’s a lot of temptation. Approaching women takes effort, many of them reject you and a lot of guys (even attractive ones) prefer L… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/25 02:46 PM |
| 7 | Dear RP guys, the phrase “exist as woman get free stuff?” How does that work?My point is that every 3rd post on this subreddit is men complaining that they don’t understand why “Chad” gets consistent casual sex with women, while they don’t. “Don’t let a woman make you work for what Chad gets for free” It’s clear that despite not having Chad’s looks, they still are expecting to get Chad treatment. They say women are meanies and they don’t get why women aren’t being rational and choosing the nice guy. … but they clearly do understand, as you’ve commented they understand th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/25 02:33 PM |
| 4 | Dear RP guys, the phrase “exist as woman get free stuff?” How does that work?I sorta disagree. Casual sex for gay men is pretty easy, even when they are older. Gay men aren’t usually that picky about who they’ll have random casual sex with for free, but if they’re gonna pay a guy he usually has to be pretty physically hot or fit a specific niche. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/25 02:21 PM |
| 8 | Dear RP guys, the phrase “exist as woman get free stuff?” How does that work?If a woman here wrote this from the opposite pov, you all would flip your top lol “Women naturally want to sleep quicker with men that are more worth it/more attractive. The thing is, women don’t want to immediately put out for an average looking man. But average men will see ‘Chad’ get casual sex immediately, get women doing whatever it takes to lock him down and expect the same treatment. They still expect the women they date to give them the same amount of desire they give top-tier men. Why d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/25 02:17 PM |
| 2 | Gender advantages in datingWomen are definitely just as capable of having sex without getting attached. The trick is choosing someone they’re lukewarm about physically, and/or don’t like their personality enough to date. Women just have lower sex drives and less motivation to sleep with men they’re not already highly into. If a man slept with a woman he was super into physically and personality wise, he’d also get attached. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/25 05:55 AM |
| 14 | Even if the "nice guys" have hidden selfish motives, they are still infinitely better than the honest “bad boys”.I agree with this. I also think many women use “covert contracts” too - that’s why you see so many women in situationships/FWBs dynamics, upset because they want more. Their thought too is: “If I just invest enough time/have sex with this guy, he’ll eventually want a relationship with me”… Even though he already said he’s not interested in more than casual. Not really a gender thing; people enter “covert contacts” when they know they don’t have any leverage to get the kind of person they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/25 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Women who date men: What would hurt more—your male partner cheating with a woman or a man? And why?I would still be bad, but definitely less so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/25 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Women who date men: What would hurt more—your male partner cheating with a woman or a man? And why?Finding out about a man would hurt me more, because I’d be very fearful about STDs. I understand you can still get STDs via heterosexual sex, but HIV is the one that scares me the most and gay/bi men who are promiscuous are far more likely to contract it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/25 11:52 PM |
| 20 | Most of The Commenters on This Sub Have Basically Zero Experience In What They Are Arguing AboutJust going against you for no reason. There is a reason though. Because when men make statements like: Women aren’t attracted to anyone except Chad women are obviously going to come to the defense, because they’re women dating average-looking men. Now, if you say: “Women in their 20s, who are fit and reasonably attractive, are super picky on dating apps” Then you’ll probably get a lot more agreement. Same with the way PPD dudes phrase their questions here. When men ask women: “What do you find a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/25 09:50 PM |
| – | CMV: Wives don't owe their husbands anything when it comes to their weightYes, I agree. I have heard stories though of women whose partner cheated either during, or shortly after, having a kid due to lack of attraction. If a woman has decided to carry your child and put her body through that for 9 months, I do think the man owes her some decency and time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/25 04:14 PM |
| – | CMV: Wives don't owe their husbands anything when it comes to their weightOh, don’t misunderstand me. I understand the impact a stressful relationship can have on someone, and it’s easier to focus on self when you’re not constantly in fight-or-flight. But the argument here was that it’s about what’s on the “inside that counts” and that you don’t owe your partner a healthy body regardless of how the relationship is going. If your is pulling their weight, you should be doing the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/25 04:07 PM |
| – | CMV: Wives don't owe their husbands anything when it comes to their weightWhere a lot of this argument falls flat, is that you see many women have “post breakup glow-ups” where they start to go the gym, get fit, and dress better. They know that it’s not just about what’s on the inside that counts… that’s why they make themselves more competitive as they re-enter the dating pool. It’s interesting that we can understand in the early dating stages, that people can be attracted to you or not for whatever reason. … but somehow people have a huge problem with the idea that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/25 03:44 PM |
| 36 | Stating that sex and intimacy for men is a need, isn’t a proposal for sexual slavery. This is a common strawman that women propose because it would be ethically uncomfortable to acknowledge this being true.Men need emotional support and community, I can agree with that. And often the way that’s achieved is through romantic partnership. But it’s often hard to sympathize with some men on PPD, because of the way they’re explaining things. If a man came on here and felt discouraged because he’s looking for a relationship, and he wants a woman he can share his life with and love… I do feel empathy for him, and other similar posts on Reddit get support. … but when your main talking points are about how … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/25 02:20 PM |
| 7 | Question to the women here who have lots of matches on dating apps but haven't been in or don't care much to be in a relationship: How do you reconcile having so many options, and wanting to date, but yet finding all or 95% of men not good enough?I’m not on Tinder anymore, but when I tried it at 22 or 23, I definitely got over 1000 likes or something like that. And I don’t live in a huge city (medium size), so I assume in a place like LA or NYC a woman could easily get that in a day or a few. Not that it says anything about the woman. Most of those guys just wanna fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 08:59 PM |
| 7 | Question to the women here who have lots of matches on dating apps but haven't been in or don't care much to be in a relationship: How do you reconcile having so many options, and wanting to date, but yet finding all or 95% of men not good enough?The average woman is just more useful to men than the average man. That’s really it. I don’t even know if I’d say men are super into or highly attracted to many women. But she will provide him with emotional support, consistent sex, validation, possibly have his babies and pay half the bills while keeping the household relatively clean. Even if you take a few of those things away, many men get their primary source of emotional support from women. Women have closer ties to friends. Men also often… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 08:53 PM |
| 25 | Social Media Teaches Women They are Better Than MenNope. Bryce Hall specifically got popular off Music.ly before it became TikTok for those dances. You can find tons more of his old videos dancing. gay fans Yes, and? You want women to salivate online to men the same way men do for women… not gonna happen. Women don’t get turned on by static image in the same way men do. Myself and women friends tend to find men more attractive after they interact with us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 04:38 PM |
| 26 | Social Media Teaches Women They are Better Than MenWhatever the male version of this girl, would be mocked Like this? https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2MWY7py/ Sure, he gets some funny comments. That’s to be expected on social media regardless of your gender. But he built his following initially doing silly dances. Social media teaches women they are better than men It’s not social media and it’s not just women. It’s everything about life, not just social media, that teaches physically attractive women that they are better than average men. And men ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 04:30 PM |
| 14 | Most problems in the current dating climate would be solved if everyone was at a healthy weightYeah, seems like limitations are self-imposed. If most adults are overweight in the US, and 10 people are all clammering for 1 healthy-weight person (let’s be real, this is often a euphemism for thin/fit/hourglass shape)… that would mean majority of those 10 people are shooting out of their league. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/25 03:54 PM |
| 1 | Are men actually putting in effort when it comes to dating, or do they just think it should be easy?Women going out with their friends Most women aren’t going to go out alone - many women go out with their friends as the primary goal, but are single and open to meeting men if it happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/25 09:46 PM |
| 10 | Do guys in the top 10-20% act similarly to these women people complain about?Yes, but I think in some ways they act worse. Even attractive women tend to hyper-focus on a specific man once they find one they’re really into. A lot of top 10% men can’t stop running the hedonistic treadmill. They’re used to sexual variety and novelty, and find tons of women fuckable so it’s hard to give that up. If you’re really a top 10-20% guy, finding a woman who meets your standards isn’t difficult. It’s committing that tends to be the difficult part. (ETA: A lot of “Chads” I’ve known te… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/25 05:54 AM |
| 5 | Women Have Become Much More Commitment Phobic Now that Social Media and Dating Apps ExistI agree not everyone needs a large social circle… but the problem becomes if a man has little to no friends and a woman has many. Because often that man starts to expect his gf/wife to be his only source of emotional support. And that becomes exhausting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 06:52 PM |
| 5 | Women Have Become Much More Commitment Phobic Now that Social Media and Dating Apps ExistYes, but that’s also around the time societal stigma against women being single changed. Less stigma for being single —-> more thought given to whether a relationship would enhance their life —-> deeper platonic relationships with other women as a baseline —-> decision to remain single until they find a quality relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 06:36 PM |
| 2 | Women Have Become Much More Commitment Phobic Now that Social Media and Dating Apps ExistWhat I was explaining above was why men typically are less content being single than women. But the other part I wrote was about shifts in societal acceptance of women being single, and also not needing men for financial survival. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 06:27 PM |
| 7 | Women Have Become Much More Commitment Phobic Now that Social Media and Dating Apps ExistYes, but it was less socially acceptable to be single. And men were typically the breadwinners, so women relied of them for financial stability. Women would stay with men they didn’t like/love that much because they felt societal pressure to. And they relied on men for survival. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 06:25 PM |
| 12 | Women Have Become Much More Commitment Phobic Now that Social Media and Dating Apps ExistI would theorize it’s a combo of both. Women are more easily welcomed into social situations. They don’t have to prove they’re not creepy or dangerous. That being said, I think men value platonic friendships less. I’ve seen in many couples, the woman is the one scheduling plans and maintaining friendships… while the man kind of tags along, or ends up just co-opting her friend group. And he’s more content with not putting in the effort to make/maintain friendships. (That’s the funny thing with al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 06:17 PM |
| 9 | Women Have Become Much More Commitment Phobic Now that Social Media and Dating Apps ExistWhy should she have to give up her platonic friendships for a man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 04:13 PM |
| 17 | Women Have Become Much More Commitment Phobic Now that Social Media and Dating Apps ExistI agree that women are more commitment-phobic than in the past. I disagree that it’s because of dating apps. The real reason (IMO) is because women generally have deeper and more intimate platonic friendships in their lives. Women have better support systems, and are encouraged to be vulnerable and ask for help from others. Men often heavily rely on romantic relationships as their main source of emotional support. They might meet up with their buddies a few times a year, but it’s mostly just to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 03:39 PM |
| 27 | There is no problem in wanting to be "special"There’s a difference between wanting to be special, and wanting people to instantly “FAWN” over you though. And the ladder is often what people are actually wanting when they say things like: “He/she wouldn’t do this if attractive celebrity asked them out” or “She would sleep with Chad on the 1st date, don’t settle for less” What many people are actually wanting is a dynamic where they’re in the power-position. Where the other person kind of feels you’re “out of their league” a little bit (or a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/25 03:55 PM |
| 1 | The Struggles of Dating as an Average Man: Redefining Goals in the Modern LandscapeI agree with most of your list, but I’d also put these under “alpha” traits: • Assertiveness/ability to lead • Status • Charisma | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 03:23 PM |
| 15 | CMV: You are responsible for your orgasm - no excusesMeh. In the past, I’ve tried to tell men I needed more foreplay or oral to get off. Often, they would only do it briefly and didn’t seem to enjoy it. I prefer sexual partners who know oral/foreplay should be a baseline requirement. Who actively enjoy doing it without being prompted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 07:36 PM |
| 5 | Do men prefer no makeup/surgery, and should women tell when they've had surgery?The hot people are becoming hotter, but the average people are becoming uglier. I would NOT say a great body is the “new norm.” Actually quite the opposite now. But yeah if you’re comparing yourself to the top 10-20%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/24 03:41 PM |
| 16 | Do men prefer no makeup/surgery, and should women tell when they've had surgery?They usually won’t kick the woman out of bed, but many immature men will still sleep with women who have these “flaws” and then talk crap about her later. That’s why terms like “slum-buster” exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/24 03:39 PM |
| – | Why does honesty never work when dating women?Many women will have sex earlier than they’d like to. They do this when they really like the guy, and think it’s the norm and that if they don’t he’ll move on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/24 02:49 AM |
| 13 | Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment?I absolutely agree, but men get to orgasm 95+% of the time regardless. On top of that, you get the ego-boost from getting a woman to sleep with you… knowing they’re pickier on average. Women don’t really get that same validation just from sleeping a guy, unless they find him scorching hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment?IMO, personality is much harder to change initially… BUT it’s not a depreciating asset like looks. Not only that, but it’s harder to find things you’re passionate about that give you an edge above other men. But once you do, and you’ve honed it in, getting women becomes easy. Because you have other things going on for yourself that you’re not so dependent on their approval. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 04:33 PM |
| 3 | Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment?Most men aren’t attractive enough to not have to do anything else for women to want to fuck them. The second step is absolutely relevant, because people who meet others in hobby groups/social events do these things despite not being super hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 04:23 PM |
| 21 | Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment?Yes, I agree 👏 I’ve argued MANY times on Reddit that the biggest factor in getting casual sex is STATUS and CHARISMA, not just physical looks. (Status is also relative. You don’t need to be “famous” to have status. It can simply be being popular in your city, having a cool hobby you’re known for or being a “leader” at something that makes you interesting) Yes, you do have to pass a bar (the bar is not that high off apps) where the woman thinks you’re anywhere from “neutral” to “kind of cute” min… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 04:10 PM |
| 9 | Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment?You say “if all it takes is a good looking guy, they must not value it”… as if looks are not a HUGE social value in our society/culture. Men will cheat on their wives, throw away their marriages, spend 1000s on sex workers, just for the chance to be with attractive women. Your fatal flaw is assuming that women don’t also have impulses and urges. That doesn’t mean that baseline they aren’t risk-averse. It just means sometimes their hormones can override logic. And yes… this will normally be with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 04:01 PM |
| 25 | Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment?Most men probably wouldn’t take me to Nobu and pay the $600 tab for a 1st date, but many might for Megan Fox. That doesn’t mean they “don’t care about money” or spending that money doesn’t actually matter to them. It just means that for the % who are willing to take that risk, they’re going to choose someone they feel they cannot pass up the opportunity with. Humans are self-serving. We’re going to make choices that are advantageous to us. We’re going to take risks when the potential payout is w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 02:45 PM |
| 86 | Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment?I think tons of women are open to physical stuff outside of a serious relationship. The problem is, most men really aren’t offering that much to make that experience worth it for them. Your average man isn’t hot enough to get women based on looks alone. Social skills are deteriorating for both genders, so most men don’t have the charisma to make up for it. There’s less 3rd spaces to socialize, so it’s harder for average men to “get their foot in the door” to build desire. Casual sex is usually n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 02:18 PM |
| 9 | The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating worldI actually do agree with this. The other problem: it’s a lot easier to increase your appearance as a woman. I’m bi, and swipe right on way more women than I do men. Many of these women would probably not be as attractive if they had similar genetics and were men. So women compare themselves with their advantages (makeup, extensions/long hair, flattering clothing like skirts/dresses, etc) to men just as they genetically are for the most part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 08:59 PM |
| 15 | Has Mandatory Use of Dating Apps Changed the Game?Re: cold-approaching You are right that a lot of men are not cold-approaching women anymore. The men who still do tend to be players/fboys, because the ones who are good at it tend to be good at it because they do it so much. What still happens at a good rate is a “warm approach.” This involves you building an active life, full of hobbies and social outings where you can meet other people. This is obviously harder to do 40+, but the people I’ve seen be successful at it didn’t care as much about … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 04:20 PM |
| 2 | “The bar is on the floor” for the men women consider their dating pool, which is always men above themYeah, I agree with this. I think in a similar way that some women increase their standards for relationships (based on hookups), some men will “luck out” and occasionally date women more attractive than himself. It won’t happen often, but it will be enough that it inflates his standards too going forward. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/24 04:58 PM |
| 1 | How Can We Improve Dating Sites?Hmmm… I don’t think this would work. A “top 10% guy” could in theory have 100+ matches (over a period of time) while looking for a relationship. He could say he hasn’t found the right “compatibility.” On top of that, he would probably get more matches tbh. It’s basically free marketing for him - it’s the same reason people jump on the bandwagon to get the same clothes, phones, etc that are popular. The subconscious thought is: “Wow, a lot of women like him. He must be doing something right.” Eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/24 09:27 PM |
| 15 | How Can We Improve Dating Sites?I agree. The best “solution” would be to force everyone to only swipe right on people they could actually (potentially) see themselves in a relationship with. That, and/or separate the casual daters from the serious daters… and block them off to each other. But that involves everyone acting in good faith, which isn’t gonna happen. Not to mention the illusion would be shattered, and I think it would frustrate a lot of people. Seeing how few people are actually looking for what they’re looking for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/24 05:40 PM |
| 7 | How often do you fear that you'll be romantically rejected because you're not feminine enough?I love your flair 💗 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/24 07:58 AM |
| 6 | Why does it seem like women's hookup standards are higher than relationship standards?To be fair, the majority of couples now meet online… https://np.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/s/qViu1RqlDE That doesn’t necessarily mean “a dating app”, but it DOES mean that the superficial qualities are often front-and-center before there’s any chance to build real rapport. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/24 03:17 PM |
| 2 | Why does it seem like women's hookup standards are higher than relationship standards?Suppress my emotions until the other person is comfortable receiving them Yes, this is the optimal strategy. Look, you can DO whatever you want… but if you want to do what works and has the highest potential of getting you a good outcome… well 🤷♀️ It’s not gender-exclusive either. The more “lukewarm” someone is about you, the more you have to match their energy (while demonstrating attractive qualities) while they slowly progress feelings towards you. Laying in all out puts a ton of pressure of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/24 03:11 PM |
| 6 | Invisible women exist just as much as invisible men.I actually laughed at your comment, but you make a very valid point A lot of women who feel “invisible” are basically pining over a singular guy. Or they have a few negative experiences and give up. They’re not playing the numbers, approaching men and getting rejected 5x in a row, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/24 05:29 AM |
| 2 | Invisible women exist just as much as invisible men.He’s… pretty cute? Not even close to the average man I see around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/24 05:24 AM |
| 10 | CMV: Dating is harder for women because we have to judge if the male is safe and can protectLet’s be real… many women don’t judge men based on that criteria. They sit back and observe whether he’s physically attractive, has confidence/charisma, is assertive (in a socially calibrated-way), knows how to playfully banter/flirt and can make her feel things. They might also consider job and social status, but the “dependability qualities” often aren’t coming into play until later. Dating is often harder for women because they want a certain type of guy, but they’re unwilling to look at what… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/24 04:06 PM |
| 10 | If women/feminists are the reason dating is so difficult, why are gay men also struggling with dating?Many gay men are just as picky as straight women. (For relationships) I’d actually argue some of them even more so. My best guy friend in college… He was great, but goddamn he was picky. He was attractive, don’t get me wrong… but the men he was going after were basically supermodels. Face and body. He was a 7 exclusively going for 9s… and he would definitely get upset and cry over not finding any men who wanted relationships but only hookups. Plenty of cute guys wanted to date him, but they were… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/24 07:19 PM |
| – | For average men, getting a female partner mostly comes down to luck, everything else is insignificant.OP is (by his accord) a 5/10 pursuing a 7/10. It is harder when you’re trying to date out of your league. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 01:44 PM |
| 2 | Fellas, for real, get off the apps. Bizarre irl exampleWhy would you never approach her IRL? | /r/seduction | 10/11/24 08:51 PM |
| 9 | How to deal with women making negative judgements on dating behavior but simultaneously offering no alternatives?So this isn’t about not being able to get casual sex? It’s just about getting casual sex with attractive women. Why should average looking men get casual sex with hot women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/24 01:57 PM |
| 6 | How to deal with women making negative judgements on dating behavior but simultaneously offering no alternatives?Speed dating is going to prioritize physical attractiveness, yes. Average men do far better when they’re in environments with women that they can showcase their charm/charisma without the immediate expectation being non-platonic. Social circles, hobby groups, local at a place, etc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/24 01:55 PM |
| 9 | How to deal with women making negative judgements on dating behavior but simultaneously offering no alternatives?You are right, but it’s a balance between your interests and mine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/24 11:25 AM |
| 12 | How to deal with women making negative judgements on dating behavior but simultaneously offering no alternatives?Average as a man is 5’9 and 190, not 300lbs. You are right that a 300lb guy is often at too much of a deficit to overcompensate with just charisma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/24 11:21 AM |
| 22 | How to deal with women making negative judgements on dating behavior but simultaneously offering no alternatives?No, because it’s true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/24 04:25 AM |
| 23 | How to deal with women making negative judgements on dating behavior but simultaneously offering no alternatives?Nobody likes people who are solely self-serving and goal-oriented. Relationships (even casual ones) are a balance between you getting your needs met from me, and me getting my needs met from you. That’s why so many women are off-put when men lead with sex and are too pushy for it. Even the women who are open to casual sex want to feel like you specifically chose them. That you want to give her an experience because you just found her so attractive, not just as a means to an end because you want … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/24 02:20 AM |
| 4 | Society seems to believe that the average woman is entitled to her pick of the litter with menI’m sorry if other women have told you that, because it’s not what I personally believe. It’s no one’s job to hold random people accountable. People will stop taking from you when you start requiring reciprocity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/24 08:33 PM |
| 26 | Why do men pursue women with traits or lifestyles they don’t approve of once they are in a relationship?I agree with this, but will also give the more empathetic take that a lot of it is insecurity. The fear is that the same way he got you, is the same way he’ll lose you. If you’re constantly putting yourself in spaces where men go to overtly hit on women, and/or are dressing in a way that draws in a lot of attention… he feels he’s constantly competing with other men. That one miscommunication or conflict will get him booted. Of course, you need to have more trust in your partner. But we’re human,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/24 07:22 PM |
| 11 | Society seems to believe that the average woman is entitled to her pick of the litter with menThe majority of women I’ve seen who successfully have the most “orbiters” act exactly opposite of what you’re saying. They’re hot, seductive, flirty, extroverted, and command the room. Yes the hot part does matter, but the seductive is actually the key piece. Being flirtatious enough to think he has a chance, but coy enough to give plausible deniability and be mysterious. Bonus points if she’s a little bit of a “damsel in distress” and needs your help. But she makes you feel like a king when you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/24 05:01 PM |
| 16 | Society seems to believe that the average woman is entitled to her pick of the litter with menI’ll argue that some average women DO have orbiters… but those orbiters are usually “below average.” “Orbiters” are usually a few notches below whoever they’re orbiting. Let’s be real, humans are self-serving and we’re going to do what benefits us. The whole point of “orbiting” for most people, is that they’re hoping to win the lottery ticket scenario of getting a type of person they’re not used to getting, by investing far more on the front-end. Women do this by having casual sex with more attr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/24 04:52 PM |
| 27 | Society seems to believe that the average woman is entitled to her pick of the litter with menI’m just going to say, that this definitely happens… but 9/10 times when I’ve seen this, the woman was a lot more attractive than her “orbiters.” This is basically the equivalent of the mid woman who sleeps with a super attractive guy, and thinks if she bends over backwards she’ll get a commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/24 03:30 PM |
| 50 | Why is men’s dating advice “you are wrong”, and women’s “he is wrong”?When 70% of the US population is overweight, being normal is skinny in comparison to most… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/24 04:40 AM |
| 1 | The reason men are so obsessed with virginity and sexual performance is because most women areYes, they find attractive and admire from afar. Doesn’t matter, cause most non-virgin men wouldn’t date her (if it meant they had to wait a long time for sex). Women want to date a man they want; they don’t at large care about random opinions of men they’re not going to date. And those positive opinions don’t really matter if it doesn’t get her the outcomes she wants. Similarly, negative opinions don’t really matter if she still gets the outcomes she wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 10:04 PM |
| 7 | The reason men are so obsessed with virginity and sexual performance is because most women areGetting older isn’t something voluntary. Getting pregnant, not knowing how the person will change 5+ years down the line (no one does) and then becoming a single parent isn’t fully voluntary either. I don’t think we should be shaming anyone, tbh - but just because you think something is worth shaming doesn’t mean everyone shares your opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 08:54 PM |
| 2 | The reason men are so obsessed with virginity and sexual performance is because most women areMen shame women all the time for being old, ugly, promiscuous, single moms, etc. But the second women give men any smoke back, you get comments like this ones. I agree in a perfect world, people should be nice to each other and shaming should cease to exist. But you can’t apply one standard one place, and expect to not apply it if it benefits you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 06:18 PM |
| 4 | The reason men are so obsessed with virginity and sexual performance is because most women areI don’t believe majority of men (outside weird RP spaces) actually desire women who are virgins past 25 or so. And definitely not past 30. Women who are virgins for that long generally are either waiting for marriage, religious, or are going to want to be in a LTR for a while before having sex. Most men aren’t going to wait 6+ months for sex, especially if they’ve had sex already. The delulu fantasy of a female virgin who will find you so attractive and amazing that she will have sex with you af… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 06:12 PM |
| 17 | The reason men are so obsessed with virginity and sexual performance is because most women are“We should be able to mock and shame you, but you shouldn’t be able to mock and shame us🥹” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 06:06 PM |
| 9 | The reason men are so obsessed with virginity and sexual performance is because most women areIt’s like saying you’d date a poor man if he had money. I think a better analogy would be a rich man who was frugal. But yeah, on a balance of probabilities, someone who is rich is likely going to use it for more opportunities. That was my point though - it’s not that women are turned off specifically by the fact the man is a virgin. The turn-off is whatever attributes that are causing him to not have opportunity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:10 PM |
| 22 | The reason men are so obsessed with virginity and sexual performance is because most women areThe thing is, the majority of men are not going to be virgins by choice. If a guy has the attributes women are attracted to - confidence, good looks, charisma, social skills, etc, then he’s likely not going to be a virgin. I think A LOT of women would date a guy who was clearly attractive and had options, but was a virgin by choice. A guy who has many of the attributes I listed above. It’s not being a virgin by itself that’s the issue, it’s the fact that most men who are virgins aren’t virgins b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 03:43 PM |
| 27 | The reason men are so obsessed with virginity and sexual performance is because most women areNotice there’s no female version of emasculate? Mocking women who have a lot of sexual partners. Calling them 304s and joking about how they “belong to the streets” and that they’re failing to live up to their feminine role of being pure. Telling women over 30 that they’re “expired” and telling single moms that they’re for “recreational use only” and no man of quality will ever take them seriously. Men now love to tell women where they rank and if they’re failing to live up to feminine standards… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 03:32 PM |
| 23 | The reason men are so obsessed with virginity and sexual performance is because most women areI really do prefer average though… I almost dated a guy once who was too big, and I had to call it off after having sex a few times because it was so uncomfortable. Most women don’t get off from PIV anyway. The best sex I’ve had was sex that involved lots of foreplay/oral sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 03:17 PM |
| 5 | For women with a promiscuous past. Is your settle down partner a Ned Flanders compared against the guys you pulled in the past?This became a lot more common with dating apps. I don’t know how old you are, but it’s definitely happening with younger people who use the apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/24 03:22 AM |
| – | To be successful at a SOCIAL interaction with another human (a.k.a. dating / relationship), SOCIAL skills are the most important thing. This is as obvious as the sky is blue, yet some people on this sub keep doubling / tripling down on the desperate lie that social skills are irrelevant.I don’t know if I fully agree with this. Take a guy like Elliot Rodgers - he could’ve had options with women if he had better charisma/social skills. He wasn’t physically unattractive. But I do think it’s easier to develop social skills when you’re good looking, because people give you more chances. You get more chances —> more positive reinforcement—> more confidence —> helps social skills with practice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 02:55 PM |
| – | You Can’t Argue your Way to Success in DatingThey’re high school athletes, yes. The point is, being good at a sport in high school takes effort. They weren’t just doing nothing to be attractive to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 12:42 PM |
| – | You Can’t Argue your Way to Success in DatingBeing a jock means you’re an athlete. It takes time/effort to get good at a sport, even if you have some natural ability. They weren’t “naturally” attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 12:26 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Hitting "the wall" as a woman should be embraced!As someone who’s been invisible and then “glowed up”, I 100% prefer being visible. That being said, I understand some of the reasons women might prefer the opposite. Once you hit a certain looks threshold as a woman, a lot of men will pursue you hard mainly for their egos. They want the validation of getting a “hot” woman to like them, because subconsciously they feel if they get you to like them it means they’re also just as attractive. In the worst cases, they know they’re doing this. But some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 04:09 PM |
| – | The dating market does not suck for womenI agree with a lot of what you’re saying, but what I don’t agree with is that most men would be “happy” to be used for sex in the way that women are. Especially by women they’d actually want relationships with. The “Chads” are basically happy with spinning plates because many of the women they sleep with are also giving him gf benefits. Cuddling, going on dates, intimate conversations, gifts, companionship, etc. It’s basically a relationship, just with less consistency, commitment, or monogamy. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 01:41 AM |
| – | The dating market does not suck for womenMen enjoy being the temporary boy when it’s a woman they’re not that into. But if you put a man’s dream girl in front of him, he would want to date her. And would be very disappointed if she didn’t want a LTR with him, especially if she was leagues above the women he’s used to dating (or could get for a LTR). Yes, men would still have casual sex with their dream girl. And in the beginning, they’d enjoy it. But then they’d eventually become resentful when she only hits them up at 2am, when she ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 01:11 AM |
| 18 | For the men who have tried the common dating advice of joing hobby groups, expanding your social circle, taking a class, join a co-ed sports league, join a book club, etc... how long did it take until it actually bore fruit?The same could be said about the guys, including myself probably. I genuinely salute you for saying the quiet part out loud 😅 But it makes one wonder… if you can acknowledge you’re probably unattractive, and so are the women at speed dating, why can’t you be happy with a woman on your “looks” level? Same with the overweight men hitting on the attractive women. They’re overweight and still hyper-focusing in on the hotties, when they probably could have some luck if they just aimed for a woman who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 03:34 AM |
| 8 | Q4W: Would you be willing to receive no male attention at all, if it meant eliminating unwanted attention?18 is so young… I’m willing to bet there were some men who were attracted to you, but they just weren’t confident enough to pursue it at that age. Plus a lot of people only “grow into themselves” in their 20s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 02:57 AM |
| 4 | Apparently women turn “demisexual” around average menEhhh… What you’re describing is basically a guy who’s a 10 in the looks, but a 0 in the social skills. Of course, that’s going to drag his “attractiveness” score down significantly. But if you gave that same top tier hot guy average social skills, many women would choose him over an average looking guy who’s charismatic. If you’re that hot, you really don’t have to put in much effort. As long as you’re not actively being weird or off-putting (which is what your friend sounds like). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 02:22 AM |
| 60 | Apparently women turn “demisexual” around average menYes, but there’s different tiers. That’s why you have a lot of men saying: “I think I’m attractive, I’m fit, etc, why am I having trouble getting women?” And then they mention their hot friend who women actually ask out first. They wonder why they can’t get that same treatment. And some of those men actually are above-average. But there’s a difference between “attractive enough that many women will be receptive to an approach by you if you’re charismatic” vs “attractive enough that women will ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 05:35 PM |
| 26 | Apparently women turn “demisexual” around average menWhat is the point of this post? You’re complaining about the fact that women don’t immediately want to have casual sex with average looking men, but do want to have casual sex with top tier hot men. My point of this comment is that it’s human nature to do more for an opportunity you feel is scarce. I brought up examples with my best friend, to give insight on how this isn’t exclusive to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 03:32 PM |
| 180 | Apparently women turn “demisexual” around average menThis might be controversial and unpopular, but it’s the truth. It’s human nature to do more for someone you perceive as “above” you, or to do more for an opportunity you feel is scarce. Women aren’t the only people who do this. I’d say I’m a 7, maybe a Midwest 8 lol, kind of a butterface but also fit and I don’t struggle with getting dates. But my best friend is a literal ✨smokeshow✨, she’s got the hot face and the IG perfect hourglass figure so many women strive for and she’s got an exotic look… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 02:37 PM |
| 22 | CMV: Men who are concerned about being 'Beta-Buxxed', shouldn't complain about being 'Friendzoned'Being fuckzoned is way worse than being friendzoned. It depends on the context. I’m a bi woman, and some of men’s dating complaints are absolutely correct. It’s hard to emphasize with if you have no experience dating women. Technically, you’re right - women do risk more health wise. But these days… there’s condoms, multiple forms of birth control, there’s PREP (the HIV prevention drug if you don’t have it). You can get tested, and require new partners to get tested on top of condoms/BC. The dang… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/24 04:49 PM |
| – | Gay men love men more than women doI’ve told a few guys they were attractive/hot while drunk at a bar (I was early 20s)… and they were either weirded out or immediately thought I wanted to fuck. I’d love to compliment men I was attracted to more, but 95% of them will assume it’s an open invitation for sex and/or think I’m desperate/creepy/weird. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 12:14 AM |
| – | Gay men love men more than women doThey are super picky, and openly crude/mean on dating apps about their pickiness. I’ve had gay friends show me their Grindr, and many people will openly say “no twinks, no blacks, no fat guys” etc. Anyone who thinks it’s “more love” no it’s far more objectification, and my gay friends who want a relationship have a terrible time finding men who want more than a hookup | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 12:10 AM |
| 14 | Men and women don't really need each other anymoreWomen and men do need eachother, to reproduce the population. It also makes it A LOT easier to have both parents around, supporting and taking care of the child(ren) as a joint effort. A team. But in terms of life-long partnership or marriage, you’re right. I don’t think the majority of humans are cut out for it, and if you took away the “romantic” element of social status (plus security) you get from a life-long relationship, I don’t think most humans would actually WANT it. People change so mu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 10:14 PM |
| 9 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?I see less CF women specifically wanting marriage, but it’s not surprising that even CF women want a life-partner over casual sex. Casual sex for women = dangerous. It’s not in women’s best interest to have casual sex with a bunch of random men. She’s risking higher potential for stealthing, assault, pregnancy, STIs, etc. It’s not mostly about a “status symbol” as it is wanting something stable - the emotional support of a partner who you know will be there for you, and the ability to have your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 05:23 PM |
| 5 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?I think when people say “age gap” they’re thinking of a 20 year old with a 40 year old, when that’s not actually what often happens. A 35 year old man isn’t stressing about marriage, esp if he’s attractive/has money, because he can marry a 32 year old when he’s 40. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 05:15 PM |
| 10 | What is emotional labor and how do women do more of it?Nah, it’s a terrible idea to bring children into this world (if you don’t want them) because of someone else. No matter how attracted or in love I am now, there’s over a 50% chance we’ll get divorced. And most of the childcare responsibilities fall on the mom regardless. “Love” isn’t enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 06:50 PM |
| 10 | What is emotional labor and how do women do more of it?These “behind the scenes” tasks ensure that everything runs smoothly and that the family is in a good emotional state. If a man is used to coming home from work to a clean house, food on the table, the kid’s schedules organized etc and then it doesn’t happen… after too long, that would be a house full of chaos. And no, many men who want LTRs and not just sex do this. (I remember reading a post about this very thing where many people - both men and women - agreed: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurpleP… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 06:39 PM |
| 23 | What is emotional labor and how do women do more of it?Women in marriages/with children do a lot of “invisible tasks” that are basically often expected by men - planning doctors appointments, managing the kid’s schedule, keeping the house clean and tidy, keeping tabs of everyone’s emotional states/offering advice or guidance, etc. Women are expected to do these roles. When men do these roles, he’s “going above and beyond” “a great father” etc. Married men live longer than single men, on average. I’m guessing this is likely the reason. Your average b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 05:51 PM |
| – | Just because women feel attraction rarer, that doesn't mean their sexuality is all that much "better".This isn’t much different from men. Men also want to feel they’re special, that’s why they’re repulsed by promiscuous women. They don’t want a woman who’s so easily accessible because they want to feel like they were special, they were the special snowflake she chose out of all the men who wanted her… not that you just happened to be the next guy who gave her attention and she was lonely/desperate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/24 02:20 PM |
| – | Women logic: quick sex for men with red flags, good men must waitAbsolutely. You asked why, not what can we do about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 05:44 PM |
| – | Women logic: quick sex for men with red flags, good men must waitThe raw-dogging part is often due to being drunk. Those risk-taking type of behaviors often involve alcohol or other drugs. It’s not exactly a “secret” that taking drugs to lower your inhibitions would lead to other risky behaviors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 05:41 PM |
| 23 | It's not that men want submissive women, we just want agreeable women.Overly agreeable usually = doormat. Both men and women who are doormats and people-pleasers (putting others needs above their own in an extreme effort to be liked) tend to get taken for granted, and taken advantage of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 03:05 PM |
| 2 | People that play games, why? Be honest.Elaborate? I thought my explanation was an elaboration. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/24 08:54 PM |
| 1 | People that play games, why? Be honest.I don’t think it’s so much about “power and control” as it is that the person has multiple options, and puts people on a list in terms of who they prioritize. The issue is most often, they kinda like you but not enough to give you anything consistent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/24 01:54 PM |
| 9 | People that play games, why? Be honest.Agreed, but the simple answer is that they’re not really into you. They hit you up when they want validation or to feel something. They’re looking for attention in that moment, not a connection. And once they’re not bored/lonely/horny anymore, they dip out because they no longer have that need. They don’t continue to reach out because there’s no connection on their end. OP, you’re viewing it as them wasting a bunch of time/effort, because during moments they’re not texting you, you’re thinking a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/24 01:46 PM |
| 32 | The idea that women put in more effort later on in the relationship isn't true.I agree, but I think it’s sometimes a lot more than just this. Sometimes, you’re right… people are expecting a 24/7 lusty romantic connection and it’s just not realistic once you’ve built up familiarity/security with someone. But other times, people feel like the “marketing pitch” was very, very far off from the actual product. To the point where, had they known what they were actually getting… they never would have agreed to a relationship in the 1st place. There’s so much nuance to this, and i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/24 06:24 PM |
| – | Women are unable to handle rejectionBecause much of the time, men have already made up their mind about whether you’d qualify for a girlfriend 30 seconds into meeting you. You can do things as a woman to get downgraded, but rarely upgraded. But with women, attraction grows for us over time far more often. Most of the men I’ve dated I wouldn’t swipe “right” on a dating app. Yet I was wildly attracted to them. But I didn’t always feel that way on date 1-2. If a man doesn’t already have that initial “wow!” feelings towards you instan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 06:11 PM |
| 3 | Women are unable to handle rejectionMost women are better off sending out strong IOIs vs actually approaching. Things like - putting yourself in a man’s proximity, smiling at him, even starting a casual conversation (“That looks good! What are you drinking?” “I like your shirt!” Etc etc)… but not actually directly asking him out. Usually men will at least continue the conversation and ask you more questions, even if they’re too shy to directly ask you out. They’ll at least give you some sort of sign they’re interested, and you can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 04:46 PM |
| – | Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past?Agreed. And by their logic, any man who got married and then divorced… and now decided to not get married again (because of bad experience) is using any woman he dates after. If you get divorced graped (or real graped) how dare you set a new standard/be more cautious based on traumatic past experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 03:42 AM |
| 12 | Unpopular opinion: Pressuring women to hurry up and get married and pregnant ASAP actually makes it harder to date/form a "happy family"Yup, this. My high school boyfriend and I broke up because I wasn’t ready to get engaged/have children at 21… he married the next woman he got with and had a kid with her. They’re now divorced and have a messy co-parenting situation now. He messaged me on Facebook wanting to get back together. I tried to plan a date, and he kept flaking until I eventually gave up and cut him off. I recently dated another single dad. Again, another messy situation with the BM. His ex was a single mother too, who … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/24 02:12 PM |
| – | Your "league" is who will commit to you, not who would hit itThe scenario was just hypothetical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 02:55 PM |
| – | Your "league" is who will commit to you, not who would hit itI think the problem with this… is that there’s a lot more people below someone’s league who would easily commit to them vs in/around their league. If I’m a 6, I have a decent amount of 6’s who will commit to me, but also tons of 1-4s who will commit to me. If I were to “average” it out, that would put me around a 4 when I’m actually a 6. So probably a better proxy is the most attractive people you can regularly get for relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 01:18 PM |
| 9 | Love bombing vs feigning low interest“Intermittent reinforcement” (hot/cold behavior) is a studied phenomenon. There’s tons of research on it. One of the studies - they had 3 cages full of rats, and all cages had a lever. The 1st lever dispensed food whenever a rat would press it. The 2nd lever would dispense food only sometimes when the rat would press it, but randomly. The 3rd lever never dispensed food. The 1st lever had the rats periodically eating whenever they were hungry, then walking away. The 3rd lever had the rats press i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 02:57 AM |
| 12 | Young women are not conflating their RMV with their SMVThe idea of “good enough to fuck but not to date/commit to” is huge on TikTok. It is… but not the part where the woman admits this is happening because she’s only going for guys hotter than her. Complaining about men not committing is more of a “woo is me” sort of thing - a lot of women who post those things just want to feel good and gain validation that their experience is common. Even women who do ask for advice on how to be taken seriously by men usually want the advice that feels good, not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 02:44 AM |
| 13 | Why are women very uninterested in dating/sleeping with younger menBecause the younger guy is unlikely to provide security/stability and lifelong commitment. But most women, even younger women, generally prefer relationships over casual sex… so if a younger woman made a pass at someone’s boyfriend/husband… she probably wants to date him, not just sleep with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:57 PM |
| 29 | Why are women very uninterested in dating/sleeping with younger menTons of reasons. Younger men (on average) have less life experience, and tend to be at a different life stage. A 35 year old woman who wants kids needs to date a man who’s ready on a quicker timeline. Younger men usually aren’t down with that timeline - they want to either sow their wild oats a bit more, or be in a LTR for years before even considering marriage/kids. There’s also the fact that men generally are attracted to younger women over older. There’s likely going to be some insecurity the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:48 PM |
| 5 | Is it really easier to find romantic relationships as a straight woman?I clicked on this thinking I’d get some awesome wisdom to see my own comment :) Thanks for linking me! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/24 12:41 AM |
| 12 | Is it really easier to find romantic relationships as a straight woman?if they are under 25 and still actively dating. Honestly, I don’t even blame dudes who are under 30 and attractive to women wanting to “sow their wild oats.” Women don’t like to hear this, but it makes a lot of sense. What would you rather have, as a 25 year old attractive horny guy? A roster of 3-5 attractive women who will go out for drinks with you, give you attention, and have sex with you whenever you want?… or 1 girlfriend, who will have a lot of sex with you in the beginning… but then hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/24 12:34 AM |
| 15 | Fear mongering women over “dying alone”how you meet these guys? Anywhere, everywhere. Online dating apps, bars, social events, mutual friends, etc. I’m dating someone now, but before him, I used all avenues available to me. I make dating and finding a relationship a priority in my life, and treat it like a part-time job in some ways. could it be you were just fortunate/lucky? No, not really. Sure, luck is a part of it. But it’s also effort. I put effort into dressing up nice and going out, in hopes of meeting someone. I make sure I’m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 09:52 PM |
| 10 | Fear mongering women over “dying alone”Men are the ones paying for that. Is this actually true anymore? Most households now require a 2-person income just to stay afloat. Women are also contributing to the bills, on top of household chores. We’re even expected to give our lives if it comes down to it. Again, is this actually true anymore? And don’t you think this is one of those “boogie man” scenarios that the likelihood of it actually happening to any random average couple, is so small that it’s not worth discussing? I’ll definitely… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 07:13 PM |
| 10 | Fear mongering women over “dying alone”I think there’s various other factors: In early 20s, a lot more people are “hot” cause it’s easier to be. You can eat crappy and drink like a sailor, and still be fit and attractive. This tends to drop off at 25+. I workout, eat healthy, and don’t drink, so my l look pretty damn good now at 28 in comparison to many. This wasn’t as impressive at 23. People are mostly just looking to hookup, with a smaller % relationship-minded… but those people tend to partner up right after high school. They eit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 06:54 PM |
| 40 | Fear mongering women over “dying alone”I agree with this. I also think it’s being realistic about certain things after a certain age. I’m 28F and I don’t have trouble finding quality guys - but I would guess my idea of “quality” might differ from a lot of women’s expectations I’m seeing in modern dating. I don’t mind dating a guy who’s divorced, who has a child, who has some trauma with his previous relationship (as long as he’s working through it). I’m okay with dating a bit younger (25) as long as he’s mature enough, or dating a gu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 05:10 PM |
| 6 | Fear mongering women over “dying alone”The vast majority of people will end up wanting a life partner, even if they don’t want traditional marriage or kids. There’s biological reasons, societal reasons, etc… society is set up for and benefits couples, not single people. That doesn’t mean an individual single person can’t be happier than an individual coupled person… but most people, not ever having a romantic partner to share their life with will significantly decrease the quality of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 04:56 PM |
| 4 | Is it true that women have higher standards for casual sex and for a relationship?It makes perfect sense. When you perceive someone as “above you”, you tend to do more for them to try to get them to like you. Your ego wants their validation. When you perceive someone as being “on a similar level” to you, you’re thinking more rationally and it’s easier to hold true to your standards. *Note: this usually is an age thing, and many people do grow out of it as they develop confidence, and realize there’s more to life than getting a super hot persons validation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 10:50 PM |
| 1 | Is it true that women have higher standards for casual sex and for a relationship?Your last points are mostly men who are addicted to novelty though. Megan Foxx and MGK definitely fucked like animals. Those good looking men could get a girlfriend who would have consistent sex. That’s not a libido issue, that’s an addiction to validation/novelty just like I said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 08:27 PM |
| 21 | Is it true that women have higher standards for casual sex and for a relationship?Most women aren’t into casual sex in the way men are. That being said, it’s no secret that humans often will do more to impress people they perceive as “out of their league.” A much higher % of men are going to be willing to wine/dine a supermodel-looking woman than a woman who’s plain or overweight, even if they’d rather just “Netflix and chill.” These women are often having casual sex in an attempt to lock the guys down. They’d prefer a LTR if it was on the table. Other times, it’s just right … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 07:23 PM |
| 10 | Girls always shame you for approaching or “hitting on” multiple women, sharing screenshots of their dms trying to humiliate you but men are FORCED to cast a wide net due to the fact that most women are taken or “uninterested.”This is 100% true, from the woman’s perspective. It made me think though, that men tend to feel a similar way when women will go on dates with them and start pushing for commitment too early. Men want to feel like they’re being valued for who they are and the connection they have with someone, not just to fit a woman’s biological timeline for marriage/kids. It makes the guy feel like the woman would’ve settled for any guy who fit the “husband shaped hole”, and isn’t actually interested in him sp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 07:13 PM |
| 14 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?Those men are usually just saying that because they want to “take those women down a peg”. They see an attractive woman and get upset that other comments are “giving her an ego-boost”, so now they have to “even” it up. Most of them don’t ACTUALLY believe they’re unattractive. But the is some truth to men not seeing certain cohorts of women as women. They might have a wider range of women they find attractive, but their 1-10 scale of women is essentially all women they find attractive at least on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 04:23 PM |
| 22 | Most of the time when a woman cock blocks her friend at the bar, it is out of jealousy not to “save her” as most women will try to claimMaybe I’m missing some key insight? Yes, the “insight” is that women (on average) don’t like casual sex as much as men… Given the option of casual sex with a random guy at the bar, or a LTR with a guy she’s attracted to/compatible with, the vast majority of women will choose the ladder. Many women enjoy the environment of going out with friends, dancing, grabbing some drinks, and sure, some enjoy attention/flirting with guys but that doesn’t mean they want to sleep with them (or sleep with them … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/24 06:26 PM |
| 41 | Most of the time when a woman cock blocks her friend at the bar, it is out of jealousy not to “save her” as most women will try to claimExactly. Most of the time the women are either just trying to be polite, or they’re drunk and interested in random conversations from whoever at that moment… but not actually interested in the guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/24 06:14 PM |
| 7 | Most of the time when a woman cock blocks her friend at the bar, it is out of jealousy not to “save her” as most women will try to claimWomen will sometimes be polite and talk to men they’re not that interested in. Women will also sometimes genuinely enjoy a platonic conversation with a random guy… but when he begins to flirt, she’ll try to find an exit plan. Women will sometimes be drunk and enjoy the attention in the moment, but not actually be interested in going on a date with the guy for whatever reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/24 06:12 PM |
| 22 | Most of the time when a woman cock blocks her friend at the bar, it is out of jealousy not to “save her” as most women will try to claimEvery time I’ve been attracted to a guy but out with friends, I’ve always gotten his # for later. OP isn’t wrong that sometimes women WILL leave a guy if she came with her friends and it’s a “girls night”… but if she’s interested, she’s going to grab his # for later. If she’s not grabbing his # for later, then 99.9999% of the time she’s NOT interested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/24 06:09 PM |
| 10 | Why do red pillers completely leave out young women's preference when discussing "the wall"This is true, but I also think a lot of those women aren’t actually trying to maintain their looks/fitness. They’re overweight or don’t dress feminine etc. Plenty of 40/50-something women who are into fitness and healthy eating who look great. Sure, they probably got more attention younger, but 100s of options instead of 1000s is still pretty damn good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 06:40 PM |
| 18 | When maneaters and womanizers come across one another what usually happens?From what I’ve seen, both “man-eaters” and “womanizers” prefer having the leverage. The women and men I’ve met who fit this description often choose people who are borderline obsessed with them, and will put up with their antics. They’re not usually choosing people who can play their games back to them. They don’t want partners who are just as blasé about them as they are - they want a roster of people who will feed their ego. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 02:49 PM |
| 55 | A woman pushing for commitment can leave a man feeling the same way a man pushing for sex makes a woman feelI can see your argument. The problem I think, is often the “laissez faire” attitude that’s so attractive when it comes to early dating often comes from a position of abundance. Men and women who are attractive to the opposite sex, who are social and who have no problems finding partners for sex or relationships… usually are going to be the ones who aren’t anxious or pressed about getting what they want. They know they have options. They know if this person doesn’t work out - there’s another date… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 07:41 PM |
| 11 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.Your second paragraph is so funny and ironic to me… given how many men on PPD complain about women only wanting “hot” men and not prioritizing men who are “good.” “It’s ok for me, but not for thee!” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 03:29 PM |
| 4 | Where are the feelings? Do you just go by checklist and numbers?So… why aren’t you with him then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/24 03:10 PM |
| 9 | Female Attraction StandardsEvery man ISN’T going to get jacked though, that’s the fun part 😀 It’s similar to a business interview I watched. There was some multi-millionaire who started his own business from scratch and said he gives all his info away for free. The interviewer asks him “Aren’t you scared of giving that valuable information away?” And he said: “Absolutely not, because you can tell people exactly how to be successful, and 99% of people still won’t be motivated enough to do it.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/24 12:42 AM |
| 6 | Do women have a wall for men but they are too embarrassed to admit it?I’m 28 myself, so I honestly would date either one depending on various other factors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 06:31 PM |
| 54 | Do women have a wall for men but they are too embarrassed to admit it?Because women are often seeking relationships over casual sex, they’re seeking stability/maturity for LTR/marriage/kids so they’re looking for those traits and men who have those usually are older than them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 04:33 PM |
| 107 | Do women have a wall for men but they are too embarrassed to admit it?If you’re attractive, there will always be people who want to date you regardless of age. Women generally prefer their age or older, men generally prefer their age or younger… but nothing is a definite, and it’s more about how physically attractive you look. It’s just easier to be attractive when you’re younger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 04:30 PM |
| 6 | Is it reasonable to expect monogamywhen our relationship ends 💀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/24 01:51 PM |
| 25 | Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectationsI secretly love it, as a woman who lives in the Midwest… I know my face is average as f*ck, but my body isn’t because I eat very healthy and work out. My best friend and I joke that we’re LA 5s but Midwest 9s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 11:17 PM |
| 14 | "more young men struggle because young women are content with staying single" -- except women are actually less single.Dates are fun. Going out on the town is fun. You don’t see each other 24/7 so you have more excitement when you do see them. Distance keeps the romance alive. Women tend to keep their living spaces cleaner, so it’s a trade-off between getting a bit more help on the bills but having to clean after a man. Some women find it worth it, but many might not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/24 06:24 PM |
| 38 | If a guy truly wants a healthy, romantic relationship, he wouldn’t be jealous of assholes that pumps and dumps and/or stay in toxic relationships.You can be jealous of the TREATMENT but still not want that exact specific scenario for yourself. A woman who wants love being jealous of a gold-digger makes perfect sense. Here’s a woman that society has deemed so attractive/desirable that men will fall all over her, pay for fancy dinners and shower her with gifts/attention/affection/praise just for basically existing. Same with “Chad.” Here’s a man who is so charismatic and attractive that instead of having to play dancing monkey for women’s a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/24 03:12 PM |
| 5 | She isn’t “withholding” sex from you. She simply doesn’t feel like having sex.I 100% agree, but the reality is men can orgasm regardless and women cannot. This will obviously create a difference in men’s vs women’s desire for consistent sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/24 06:32 PM |
| 34 | She isn’t “withholding” sex from you. She simply doesn’t feel like having sex.Most women orgasm from clitoral stimulation/oral sex, not PIV like men do. When the sex has been great and I’ve orgasmed, I’ve craved it more. The issue is many men aren’t willing to actually do the acts required (or do them long enough) to actually make women orgasm. I don’t even 100% blame them either. I’m a bi woman and I acknowledge women are harder (on average) to sexually please/make orgasm. Men sometimes just want to have a quickie but women don’t usually cum that easy. I have a theory th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/24 05:22 PM |
| 10 | She isn’t “withholding” sex from you. She simply doesn’t feel like having sex.Right, I was going to say this too. Oral sex and fingers don’t have nearly the same risk level as PIV or anal sex. Even if lesbians had just as much of a hookup culture as gay men (I know they don’t, hypothetically), they still wouldn’t have as many STDs simply because of anatomy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/24 05:11 PM |
| 4 | Can you explain why it is far easier for women to have casual sex than for men?https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n-keystat.htm They don’t. 28.3% of men have 15 or more sexual partners, while only 12.9% of women do. Most people have a few relationships and maybe a few hookups, then settle down in their 20s-early 30s. Social media shows the outliers. Casual sex apps like Tinder are primarily men. Dating apps that cater to relationships tend to get more balanced ratios of men/women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 09:15 PM |
| 14 | Can you explain why it is far easier for women to have casual sex than for men?A lot of men seem to value sex for the ACT I’d actually argue it’s more for the EGO-BOOST and validating themselves, since society tends to use success with women as a proxy to your attractiveness as a man. This explains a lot why men will still see it as a win to have sloppy drunk sex with a not-so-attractive woman; Even if the sex was subpar, he still got the validation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 07:11 PM |
| 18 | Can you explain why it is far easier for women to have casual sex than for men?Thank you. This is the nuance that always gets left out. As a bi woman, I deal with a lot of the same issues men do trying to date/have sex with women. Women just overall don’t want/like casual sex as much. Yes, they’ll have sex early in with people they have feelings for (in hopes it turns into a LTR) but most women will immediately reject you if you tell her you have no interest in dating her, regardless of how attractive you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 07:07 PM |
| 4 | Are most men "low quality"? If so, why?It’s a valid but when the survey is outdated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 10:26 PM |
| 11 | Are most men "low quality"? If so, why?It’s not so much the tasks themselves as it is putting equal devision of labor into the relationship. Most of the things you mentioned are things that happen very seldomly, and some - the chances of happening are slim to none. I don’t think it’s a fair compromise for a woman to do the majority of household chores, childcare, and 50/50 work on the off-chance a kidnapper (obviously an exaggerated example) breaks into the house so the man can protect them. What are the chances of that happening to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 08:34 PM |
| 2 | Are most men "low quality"? If so, why?I see your point, but this survey was done 2003-2011. It’s 2024, and I’d be extremely curious to see how it plays out with inflation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 08:23 PM |
| 5 | Are most men "low quality"? If so, why?Can you give some examples? Hard to answer without any context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 06:59 PM |
| 2 | Are most men "low quality"? If so, why?Thanks, changed it 😬 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 06:44 PM |
| 44 | Are most men "low quality"? If so, why?Quality is subjective, but things have changed from the past… Men in the past weren’t judged nearly as much for their looks, and could get a pretty woman if they just worked and provided for a family. Women have always been judged on appearance, so they tend to focus on it more. Relationships now are more focused on romance and love, which for many also means physical attraction. And although attraction is subjective to a degree, it’s also objective to a degree. “Assortative mating” is a thing t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 04:34 PM |
| 8 | The wall exists.A lot of women in their early 20s do want commitment but can’t get the men they want to commit. And yes, sometimes it’s women chasing men out of their league… but other times it’s simply an imbalance in attractive men’s vs attractive women’s motivations. If you have 50 young attractive men and 50 young attractive women, I’d guess the majority of women would want a LTR while the majority of men would want casual sex. There’s not enough hot men to go around (for a LTR) even for the women in their … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 07:44 AM |
| 1 | If women started approaching men, they would still end up approaching a minority of themI agree with you… but the problem is to get to that 1 person who does appreciate your approach and want to date you, you have to go through the other 9. women don’t view it as a numbers game That’s often because they’re in the passive role. My attractive guy friends also don’t view dating as a numbers game… because women just naturally float into their life, and they pick the best one or ones to go on dates with. Most women have the option of going on a dating app and getting 100s of likes in a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:40 PM |
| -1 | If women started approaching men, they would still end up approaching a minority of themThis is true, and I mostly agree with you, with a small caveat: Women are pretty terrible overall at handling rejection. Men are getting worse at handling it as well, but I think the men who approach and are successful understand that getting rejected 9/10 times is standard. I agree women taking more agency in choosing their partners could be a wonderful thing, but I also wonder if it would strengthen their self-esteem or destroy it. I started approaching as a woman, and I feel I have a healthy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:29 PM |
| 10 | Men do not have high beauty standardsWhen you say “Aspergirl”, are you talking about a woman with Asperger syndrome?… I only ask because being neurodivergent is obviously going to likely be a bigger factor in people wanting to date you long-term. I dated a woman who was neurodivergent (and didn’t mask well) and she was super-model hot. She met so much of what I was looking for that I didn’t pay mind to it initially… but after a while, the differences in her communication style, emotional outbursts, and feeling like I had to “parent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 08:53 PM |
| – | Q4W: How would you react to having your “new” boyfriend being outed as a drug addict, after him hiding it from you?If everyone used that logic on me, nobody would date me. It's not comedy to give people the same chance I want them to give me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 01:45 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: How would you react to having your “new” boyfriend being outed as a drug addict, after him hiding it from you?I don't judge based on stats, I look at the individual and their patterns and make my decisions from there. Imperfect people looking for perfection in the people they date are the one of the reasons we're having so many problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/24 11:47 PM |
| 8 | Q4W: How would you react to having your “new” boyfriend being outed as a drug addict, after him hiding it from you?The addicts need to want to quit. Someone hiding it from people they care about likely isn't ready to quit or just plain doesn't want to. I used to have a cocaine problem. Nothing could stop me until I was ready to stop and actually wanted to quit for myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/24 07:07 PM |
| 16 | Q4W: How would you react to having your “new” boyfriend being outed as a drug addict, after him hiding it from you?I used to have a drug (mainly coke) and alcohol problem. I'm a 28F. I would absolutely date a recovered addict. They do need to have done work on themselves though, and have some time sober under their belt. A current addict in active addiction is a hard no. I'm fine with occasional alcohol, weed, and psychedelic use. I'm a hard NO on even occasional cocaine, meth, and heroine use. I'm also a no on any drug use that affects their daily life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/24 07:03 PM |
| 15 | Why do a lot of women say that men like b*tc3s?A few reasons off the top of my head: Hotter women can usually get away more with being b*tchy. Women could just be seeing some men putting up with the behavior for their looks, and misattributing it. Doormats tend to get walked on, regardless of looks. I don't believe many men actually like mean women, but women with boundaries tend to get more respect and filter out incompatible men on the front-end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/24 04:12 AM |
| 7 | Female Behavior Rewards Manipulative Men Who Play The Field Or Date DownwardsI'd argue there's a chance the liar could've matched with women who would've given him a chance with his real stats, but after finding out he lied, drop him solely for lying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/24 04:20 PM |
| 11 | Female Behavior Rewards Manipulative Men Who Play The Field Or Date DownwardsWomen under 35 who fit conventional beauty standards (which is a minority of women - most women are overweight etc) are used to having men pursue them solely for their looks. A lot of these men who "hyperfocus" on them and give them all their attention are doing so because they want the validation of being able to date an attractive woman, irrespective of commonality/personality. Women don't want men to put them on a massive pedestal before they even know each other yet. Women want to find a mut… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/24 04:16 PM |
| 2 | How much control do women really have over the dating market?Men don't have a high bar Desirable men definitely do have a high bar. Not for casual, usually, but for LTRs they can be just as picky and fickle as women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 11:22 PM |
| 14 | How low would autistic guys have to set their standards, if women only date up?It also depends on how well the man can "mask." ... This is often a big overlooked difference between ND men and women. Women are socialized to be polite and "mask" their ND - they learn to imitate other's behaviors/body language to fit in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 09:15 PM |
| 2 | Having a list of positive traits/achievements isn't enough for successful dating.It's still a factor, but becoming less of a factor in modern dating. The amount of $ you need to have as a man to override having charm/charisma/social skills is a much higher bar than in the past... to the point where your average man is better off trying to cultivate the former, instead of only aiming for the ladder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/23 01:51 AM |
| 7 | Is there truly a large subset of men who are financially stable, emotionally stable, honest, intentional, make the best of their physical appearance (grooming/etc), have interesting hobbies etc that struggle attract their equal?I appreciate emotional openness as we continue to get to know each other... at a pace that makes sense for the relationship. Not in the very beginning, when things are supposed to be light. Early dating is for fun and getting to know each other. Trauma dumping isn't attractive, regardless of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 08:35 PM |
| 19 | Is there truly a large subset of men who are financially stable, emotionally stable, honest, intentional, make the best of their physical appearance (grooming/etc), have interesting hobbies etc that struggle attract their equal?The lack of self-esteem has been the biggest reason I've rejected "good on paper" men. It's usually paired with clinginess/being overbearing very soon into meeting, which exhausts me. I have no problem dating men society might not find "Chads" or whatever, as long as there's something about them I find attractive... But then they'll often do things like double/triple text when I'm working/busy, try to monopolize all my time, keep saying self-depricating things like "i can't believe you like me" … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 05:49 PM |
| – | How do average looking guys get 10/10 Western women? Why is there less dating inflation abroad?Lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/23 07:52 PM |
| 0 | For those of you who think women can get anything for free?What's your standard for "cute"? Would you say you're going for men who are 3-4s? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 10:41 PM |
| – | For those of you who think women can get anything for free?You do look like you could be on drugs. I don't say that to be mean, I'm just being honest. I used to drink and do coke on the weekend, and I started looking worn down too. I'm sober now. I take probiotics and collagen powder every morning, eat clean, and get enough sleep. My skin and face did a 180, I look vibrant and alive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 02:14 PM |
| 11 | Q4W: Women only dance clubs. Genius idea?Lesbians tend to jump into long-term monogamous relationships, and stop going to lesbian bars or rarely go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 03:40 AM |
| 29 | Q4W: For those who have experienced this - why do males approach less nowadays?Honestly, I've gone to Planet Fitness for years and have never gotten approached there. But then I've occasionally gone out to a bar/club with friends, and been approached a few times asking if I go to PF because they saw me there. I think the gym is simply seen as a "less socially acceptable" place to approach. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 02:20 PM |
| 13 | The Wall exists but also doesn'tBecause men don't usually say "dating gets harder for most as they get older, especially for people who don't improve/take care of themselves".... They specifically make it a woman vs man thing, and claim that men age "like fine wine," even though most don't. The other thing is, men and women have different strategies and there's equalizers in the dating world. Example - If you're a 30 year old who is fit and works out, you're likely going to have better options than a 21 year old who's overweig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 07:07 PM |
| 74 | Why is it that Men „enjoy“ being seen as Sex objects, while Women don‘t?Agreed. The other thing is, most of the time women like (and would probably date) the men they're sleeping with. The same isn't nearly as true for men. Which means most men don't have much of a reference point of actually being sexually objectified by a woman. If a man met his dream girl - his ideal body type/looks, tons in common, etc, and she initially went on a few dates with him and then told him she only wanted "FWBs"... He would probably go along with it, and slowly become resentful when s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 12:13 AM |
| – | How to get men in 30s to be more serious?Here's the thing - Most men in their 30s ARE open to a serious relationship or marriage/kids... with the right woman. You can't FORCE a man to be more serious about you than he already is. All you can do is observe his behavior towards you, and decide if it's in alignment with what you want long-term. Men have no trouble committing to their "IT" woman. The woman who truly lights his fire and he feels is the best possible fit for him. Most women aren't going to be this to most men. Women often th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 12:15 AM |
| – | Why should women today deal with the averаge man?Real answers: Because the average woman statistically still only makes about 30-40k a year, regardless of age... and it would make more sense to have a partner to split bills with. Because the average woman is also overweight/obese, and if she wants children it's wiser to partner with a man who wants to create a family... not to only be a hot men's bootycalls. Because community gets more difficult to get as you get older, and a partner is supposed to support you through loss, financial crisis, h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 07:43 PM |
| – | There is almost a perfect direct and positive correlation between a womens' objective looks and the chance that she will be interested in you, even AFTER you've established commonality/chemistry.even AFTER you've established commonality/chemistry. That's simply your perception of the dates - you have no clue what's actually going on in their minds. Some people are simply good conversationalists - they know how to relate to others and enjoy someone's company, even if it's not a match. It's also possible that you're rating the connection higher than it actually is, and trying harder to find commonality on the dates, because you find those women hotter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 02:12 AM |
| – | Why don’t the men who constantly complain about women dating based only on appearance just go after better women?To be fair, a lot of the things that make men "hot" are immutable. Height, facial shape, hair, etc. Women benefit way more from improving their looks, as the things men prioritize physically aren't as immutable. Weight, hair (women don't bald like men), clothing/natural makeup to highlight feminine features. Men can improve their looks by working out and dressing nicer, sure, but they still won't be head turners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/23 03:02 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t respect the average man?Some women could have more empathy when rejecting men they're not interested in. It's not all or most women, but I don't think the average woman could handle being laughed at or mocked for simply trying to have a conversation with someone. That being said, some men also can take rejection harshly or turn violent, so it's hard to balance being nice about rejection while also being firm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 01:07 PM |
| 15 | Thoughts on “the wall” and beyondThis comment made me laugh, lol. In reality though, I understand what men here mean when they refer to "the wall." They have a crude way of putting things, but there's truth to it. Most women aren't going to prioritize their looks into their 30s/40s, and won't be as naturally good looking as they were in their 20s. On top of that, "quality" people in the dating pool tend to partner up in their 20s (doesn't have to be early 20s), many of them stay together... so naturally the dating pool in your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 02:35 PM |
| 23 | Let's be real it's the women in the 5.5-7.5 range causing most of the dating/relationships problemExactly. Being a 7-7.5 is hot, not "mid". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 06:30 PM |
| 8 | Women are extremely visual in all other facets of life. It's completely irrational to think they make an exception for men.I'm a bi woman, and IMO, a lot of straight women think they find women more attractive because they're not actually banging them. I do find more women sexually attractive than men, but it's still not the majority. When straight women say this, I think they're often referring to women putting more effort into their clothing, hair and makeup. But I can almost guarantee if those same women were actually bi or lesbian, they wouldn't be sexually attracted to those same women they're calling gorgeous.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 03:14 PM |
| 17 | Women judge men based on how popular they are with other women which leads to a cycle where a few fuckboys get to pump and dump many womenYes, many men do. Many men (even the fboys) actually enjoy the companionship and spending time together outside of sex. They (the fboys) just don't want to have to commit and be monogamous to 1 woman. And even attractive guys usually have to "f down" in terms of looks, because attractive women can often do better than being a guy's jump-off. So it makes sense why they'd fake commitment to get a certain type of woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 08:04 PM |
| 3 | The only men who truly benefit from modern dating culture are the tip top percentile of menMost of those women are looking to advance their modeling careers by being with someone well-known like Leo. Celebrities dating to advance their careers isn't anything new. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 02:55 PM |
| 4 | A big deal about dating is that it feels like work for men, and work is never fun!Right, how dare an ugly woman think she's entitled to any amount of effort/respect! Shouldn't that uggo know her place? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 02:51 PM |
| 15 | Most college aged women do not want 30+ year old menA lot of men do. But those men probably aren't going to be at bars/clubs all the time, or swiping right on every woman on Tinder. Basically guys who want casual are often more proactive and pursuing more women (because compatibility isn't relevant to them). They're usually more "flashy" in some kind of way. Tons of 30 year olds are still in that mentality, but it's far from the majority (maybe exception for major cities like LA/NYC). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/23 05:59 PM |
| 6 | Observing how my male and female friends adapt to reality as we age.Where do you suggest the average woman meet men to date then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/23 01:20 AM |
| 6 | Why can't people just be honest with men when it comes to online dating? You aren't getting 0 matches because your pictures are bad, you're getting no matches because you're ugly.I think the disconnect here is men's attraction to women tends to be yes/no, while women's tends to be yes/neutral/no. Most men's looks fall into the "neutral" category for women, but his behavior, mannerisms, conversation skills, confidence, competence etc (or lack-thereof) can swing the pendulum from neutral to yes or no. But on dating apps, women usually swipe no on the neutral guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 02:31 PM |
| 2 | CMV: All women will aim for the absolute highest value male within reach first, then work their way down. Men don’t do this.Men do ask out women most of the time, but a top tier hot guy (who hangs around environments where people pursue like bars, nightclubs, parties etc) will also get women pursuing him. Granted the women are likely going to be a few notches below what he could pull if he approached himself, but it absolutely happens. It just doesn't really happen on a grand scale for any men besides the super hot ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 07:21 PM |
| 17 | The orgasm gap would be smaller if women took the time to communicate their needs instead of expecting things to magically happen to themAgreed 100%. Also a lot of guys who pursue casual specifically are doing it for the ego-boost, not because they're just so into sex with that specific woman. We all know a large subset of men lower their physical standards for sex, which usually means they're not going to put in extra effort for a woman they're meh about. Even guys who aren't misogynistic usually don't care all the much when it's casual, they want to get a nut and be on their way. In their minds, if what pleases him also pleases… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 05:45 PM |
| – | The dating game has changedThis. Men definately put more effort into approaching and initiating to get dates with women, but in the actual relationship women usually take on more labor. I'm a bi woman, and dating women has been far easier than dating men. They actually remember my birthday, have clean houses/apartments, do nice things for me "just because," have better communication skills and show desire through multiple avenues, not solely sexual. Now getting a date with a man is far easier, women are pickier even with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 03:06 PM |
| 11 | Don't mistake a man's lack of options for better moralswhy would they take her for granted Because they're resentful they couldn't get who they really wanted. Lack of oppertunity doesn't automatically mean someone values something more. Especially now with social media throwing in everyone's face how much "better" other people have it. Maybe it would've been a bit easier in the past. But now men get to see attractive women constantly on their phones, women they could only dream of being with. If they're heavy p*rn users, it's just a constant onslaug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 02:52 PM |
| -1 | Are the Red Pill statistics true when it comes to mens struggles?They won't even cold approach a guy unless he's 2+ points out of her league. This makes sense, considering women are conditioned that approaching men and making the 1st move makes them desperate. If a woman is going to "break gender norms" then yeah, it's way more likely going to be for a more attractive guy. The bar to get HER to approach you is usually far higher than the bar to get her if YOU approached her. But I also think cold approaching is becoming less common with dating apps/social iso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 08:06 PM |
| 49 | You ignore the most important thing - the sparkIt's pretty simple, truly. Usually a "spark" is a combination of at least a few of these: Strong physical attraction Sharing the same "worldview" Flirtious banter/playful teasing mixed in with some raw vunerability (Note: Usually have to have both to create strong tension) The anxiety from the rush of hormones based on attraction, but also not fully knowing if you can "lock this person in" yet (they're a bit mysterious/keep you on the edge of your seat) "The spark" has no bearing on actual LTR c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 12:17 PM |
| 6 | Why are men telling women to look past potential partners looks?The average woman is 5'4 and the average man is 5'9. While I definately agree there's shallow women who only want 6'+ (and is exaggerated online), most women just want a guy who's a little bit taller than them. Which isn't unrealistic statistically at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 09:31 PM |
| 15 | Most men simply want women at or even slightly below their level of attractiveness, or just one who isn’t overweight. Most women feel entitled to men way more attractive than them and meet a whole laundry list of criteria. The whole “neckbeard wants supermodel” narrative is fictional projection.The problem is that men on this sub will use the "unhelpful everyday scale" for themselves, but then the "much less forgiving scale" for the women they're trying to date. Using the scale where Emma is a 6.5 makes the vast majority of dudes in this sub a 3-4; she's still out of most men's league. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 07:43 PM |
| 5 | This is very anecdotal, but as a man, i miss the attention, do others also?is meaningless If it's just about getting attention, it shouldn't matter who it's from. If it's about getting attention from someone you're attracted to, women struggle with that as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/23 09:48 PM |
| 7 | The average man is shamed when he has standards. How to make someone understand that this is not cool?Oh no doubt, but sounds like internalized hatred more than anything else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 01:41 PM |
| 14 | The average man is shamed when he has standards. How to make someone understand that this is not cool?I don't have a problem with men having distaste towards promiscious women. But if that's the case, then those men should avoid those women entirely. Don't have casual sex with them, don't jerk off to them, don't like their photos on IG, don't give them validation/attention/money. A lot of straight women aren't attracted to bi men, you're right, but they usually just don't get involved with them and that's it (unless they didn't know beforehand). I actually would find it very hypocritical if a wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 12:39 PM |
| 4 | Do TRULY average men actually struggle to date and have sex?Ask for what you want. If what you want is enthusiastic, consistent sex... filter for it and if someone doesn't meet your standards, move on. Gift giving isn't my love language, so as long as I was getting quality time and physical affection from my partner, I don't care if he wined and dined previous girlfriends. But if it was, and he didn't meet my needs, I would have left before even finding out anything from his past. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/23 09:51 PM |
| 5 | The number of sexual activities with orgasm in long-term relationships for heterosexual and lesbian womenbang for his buck It's funny how much men here complain about women not wanting sex with them, how much men's libidio is, how they'll do anything to get more sex... Except actually fulfill the woman sexually if the labor isn't equal bc different anatomy. If men had to have sex in a way that actually left women satisfied, they would have way less interest in doing it (and especially with women they were only lukewarm attracted to). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/23 12:16 PM |
| 5 | “A man has never picked a woman based on how hard she worked to get into a relationship with him.”Most of what you're saying is proving OP's point though. There's no point in working "overtime" to try to get a specific guy, because the amount of extra effort you're putting in isn't going to change his mind, if he wasn't sold on you or ready for you in the 1st place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 01:12 PM |
| 5 | “A man has never picked a woman based on how hard she worked to get into a relationship with him.”Going on nice dates isn't really a guage for much. A guy can take you on a nice date, then take 5 other girls on a nice date. Spending $ doesn't mean that much - tons of guys offer to buy me drinks when I go out with friends, who have no interest in building any genuine connection. "How much someone likes you" is guaged by the amount of consistent effort someone puts in to show you they like you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 01:06 PM |
| 8 | “A man has never picked a woman based on how hard she worked to get into a relationship with him.”"Since I don't/didn't do this, that must mean nobody else does either" PPD in a nutshell lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 12:58 PM |
| 3 | 70% of all younger woman are in relationships where as only 30% of younger men areIt's true. Basically the majority of lesbian bars/clubs that aren't in a major city quickly get shut down, because lesbians U-haul into LTRs and stop going. Where as men will go every weekend and meet their Grindr dates there lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/23 03:17 AM |
| 1 | Where do girls go to meet guys?Yup. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/23 05:55 PM |
| 5 | why do women want marriage more than men?100%. Not to mention we hear all the horror stories of being undesirable and not being able to find good men for commitment 30+, how we're going to lose our looks and die alone, how men only want 25 year olds and if we don't "cash in while we've got it" we're going to regret it. It's actually quite sad, there's truth to the fact that singles become more rare with age, more avoidant people in the dating pool, we do slowly become less physically beautiful with age... The problem is, women are inte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 11:18 PM |
| 3 | Where do girls go to meet guys?Men have gotten my number and my friends numbers with this opener, and none of us thought they were gay. But if you want to block yourself with overthinking, be my guest and say nothing instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 11:06 PM |
| 3 | Where do girls go to meet guys?"Hey, I like your dress" "Oh, thanks!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Where do girls go to meet guys?I don't really think it matters. As long as you hit the "neutral" looks bar for me, I'll entertain a conversation to see if we click. To be fair, I don't like overweight guys. But I'm heavily into fitness, so I think thats a fair standard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 08:26 PM |
| 6 | Where do girls go to meet guys?I've had tons of guys compliment my outfit without it sounding gay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 08:22 PM |
| 29 | Where do girls go to meet guys?I think you significantly overestimate how much the average woman is getting approached IRL, especially in places like the grocery store or on the street. Bars/clubs, okay sure. But even then, a large amount of men will only approach women when they're absolutely shit-faced, and it's not usually a genuine interest in actually going on a date with that woman. I'm open to a guy approaching me anywhere, but not the sort of super direct approach men want to do... which is walk up to me and say "Hi, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 05:17 PM |
| 5 | Nightclubs are not the right place to meet womenExactly this. This idea that a woman has to go to bars/nightclubs alone to be open to meeting someone is crazy. The vast majority of women aren't going to go to those places alone, drunk, in the night time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 04:31 PM |
| 6 | Nightclubs are not the right place to meet womenI don't go to bars/nightclubs like I used to, but I'll go with friends every once in a blue moon... And I see no shortage of singles going there to hookup. The leftovers 100% still happens lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 04:20 PM |
| 7 | Being shy or a little introverted can be considered an endearing trait in women, but is usually a very unattractive one for menEh, depends and there's a line. Men definately want a woman who can blend into their social circle. A man might not auto-reject a woman based on being shy or socially awkward, but it won't be viewed as a positive if she's too shy or quiet around his friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 04:08 PM |
| 2 | Women would be straight up miserable if their partner refused to have sex with them, yet because it usually happens the other way around they find excuses that sex is not importantSure, but the average person has the internet and can now access more information on self-help, trauma, healing etc than any generation prior. You can absolutely demand that whoever you partner with does the work, especially if you're doing the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 03:38 PM |
| 6 | American woman in Australia feels ugly because she doesn't get free drinksIt's heavily dependent on the environment, and how social and attractive you are. A group of hot, extroverted 20-something women who dress up and bar hop will usually get drink offers often. Also, in dive bar places where the drinks are $5 or less, it's not uncommon for people to grab "rounds" for people around them, regardless of sexual intention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 06:04 PM |
| 29 | The things I've learned from 3 years of online dating from my own lived experience. What things have you learned?Women will often give a polite rejection as a way to firmly close the door. Men will often just not respond so they can leave the door slightly cracked open, just in case their options run dry or they're horny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/23 11:25 PM |
| 15 | Help understanding how sexually promiscuous women can still feel incredibly possessive and jealous?Did she have them with a romantic partner, or while she was single? There is a difference between being down for group sex when there's no romantic attachment vs when there is. I know guys who would have a MFM with a girl they're casual with, but would never entertain it in a LTR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/23 02:05 PM |
| 12 | If a man struggles with dating, romance, or sex, why is the default assumption that he is misogynistic or at least has problematic views on women, and that he doesn't see women as people?I actually think a better litmus test is if it works for the statistical "average" person, or slightly above/below, since that's where most people actually fall. So for men, the 5'9 man who's 197 and for women, the 5'4 woman who's 170. Both are likely also plain in appearance and presentation. The truth is, no one wants to say "have you tried to make yourself hotter?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 06:35 PM |
| 82 | If a man struggles with dating, romance, or sex, why is the default assumption that he is misogynistic or at least has problematic views on women, and that he doesn't see women as people?Both men and women tend to laser-focus in on people they're attracted to, so often dating advice from ~ gender you want to date ~ isn't helpful, because they're assuming they wouldn't immediately disqualify you based on attractiveness. So the advice for men (from women) tends to be "Treat women like people!" because the guys they matched with on dating apps were crude, and/or multiple experiences with guys they were attracted to using them for sex. The advice for women (from men) tends to be "Ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 03:46 PM |
| 9 | Women Assume The Worst Whenever A Man Leaves A Friendship After Rejectionyou must befriend women before doing any romantic moves towards her. Women say this, and men interpret it quite literally (I understand why). You shouldn't become "best friends" with a woman before expressing romantic interest in her. 'Befriend' in woman-speak means striking up a conversation, being socially-calibrated, and guaging the temperature before expressing non-platonic interest. Example - Set the scene, a karaoke bar. The guy orders a drink next to a woman, asks her if she's singing ton… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 05:47 PM |
| 79 | Women base their entire dating lives on a dodgy initial sales pitch, while dismissing men who would make better long term partners because they are no good at thatMost of the things you mention women liking require socialization. The introverted nerd who spends his days in the library is less likely to be consistently approaching new women. The jocks are more likely to be in environments where they're meeting and socializing with new women more often, and also have the initial confidence to ask for her number. The women that introverted nerd would be compatible with is less likely to be at bars/clubs, Tinder, etc. And hot, extroverted women who like those… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/23 12:45 PM |
| 12 | Men don’t have commitment issues any more than women but women tend to go for guys who have no reason to commitThe issue with this POV is that many men would say "yes!" initially just to get the ego-boost/validation of being able to snag a woman that hot. ... But if he's really a guy who has commitment issues, he'll still get bored after the novelty wears off and want to continue playing the field. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 08:14 PM |
| 10 | Women are often insecure when dating physically attractive menThe funny part about this, is that if it worked the opposite way (a guy suggesting to his girlfriend that she start working out) because he just "preferred her at a fitter weight"... The Reddit comments would be bombarded with women calling him a misogynist, saying how dare he try to tell her what weight she should be, that he should be attracted to her exactly as she is... But somehow when it's a woman doing the opposite, it's considered "cute and endearing". Why is that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 01:16 PM |
| 9 | CMV : its much easier for women to price themselves out of the smv than it is for them to find a genuine HMV who matches themI sometimes end up dating IG sluts, trying to find one who is also smart and kind This is the equivalent of trying to find the "bad boy" who's also loving and committed lol. perfect woman would be a regular looking woman who is also a generous freak in the sheets. Guys say "regular looking woman" when they actually mean a feminine, fit younger woman who puts effort into her appearance, but is more "naturally" beautiful instead of looking too fake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/23 02:38 PM |
| 36 | Female women, how would you feel if most men did not desire you at all?Yup. I also found this funny: You see a cute guy at the mall There's tons of good looking guys there! You're not exactly ugly. Average face, average body In the scenario, OP is judging who they want to talk to primarily based on looks... then being upset with others for doing the same. It's okay for meeee, but not for theeeee. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 06:15 PM |
| 15 | Female women, how would you feel if most men did not desire you at all?This. That was my 1st thought too. You're noticing people for their looks as a guage of whether you want to talk to them or not, then being upset others are doing the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 06:12 PM |
| 14 | Do you know any guys who are REALLY unsuccessful with women? What's their story?Yes, I went on a few dates with one. I was really into him initially, he was attractive to me and I enjoyed spending time with him. But I started to feel like he was too much of a "yes" man. He didn't want to offer suggestions for dates, just wanted to do whatever I wanted. It was difficult getting any opinion/perspective on anything that was different than my own. It became hard to know what parts of him were real, and what was just him trying to appease me for my approval. I want to date someo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 07:22 PM |
| 12 | MEN DESERVE BETTER FILTER OPTIONSA 25 year old is too old for you? And PPD dudes say we're too picky lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 12:16 PM |
| 4 | If you walked into a room with 100 people of the opposite gender, all of them are single and around your age, how many of them do you think would want to go on a date with you?75-80% would be down for a hookup or 1st date based on looks alone. 30-40% of those would be open to going on a date with me based on looks and personality/potential compatibility. 10% would be open to a LTR. I'd probably only be into 1-5%. Fit woman in her 20s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/23 07:30 PM |
| 6 | Question for Women - Is it true that you find the majority of Men unnatractive?There's a whole beauty industry primarily marketed towards women - trust me, women know how driven men are by looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 07:58 PM |
| 8 | Question for Women - Is it true that you find the majority of Men unnatractive?When women dress casual, I don't really notice them. But a lot of women will dress up in a way that attracts attention - heels, dresses, hair done etc so I definitely notice more women than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 07:52 PM |
| – | If you want happiness, marry a mid. Many high profile men, like Jim Caviezel do it. Jason Momoa did itHer fitness level alone puts her at the top % of women, especially for her age. These PPD dudes don't understand that Margot Robbie's and Megan Fox's are like 1% of the population, and "mid" is way closer to Amy Schumer. A "mid" woman isn't conventionally attractive. Mid is average. The average (wo)man is overweight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 03:29 PM |
| 7 | The 'Chad C*ck Carousel* is a MythMarried or in a relationship, should've clarified. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 01:45 PM |
| 25 | The 'Chad C*ck Carousel* is a MythI doubt there's that much lying going on. It's simply that "higher count" people are overrepresented in places like bars/clubs and dating apps. Like also attracts like, so you're more likely to have friendships with people of a similar lifestyle. Many of my old high school friends got married/in a LTR at 18-20 and have been "out of the pool" for years. Many people are also single for years, don't go on apps, don't go out much, and mainly meet through hobbies/mutual friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 01:18 AM |
| 13 | The average young man is objectively absolutely unappealing and it is a GOOD thing for the rest of men in general that he is not dating or having sexThis just isn't gonna happen. Especially for the 18-35 year old fit/slim-thick feminine hotties the PPD dudes here want. All men would have to change the behavior for it to work. Not gonna happen. If one man doesn't approach these women, 10 more will. If a woman is actively putting in more effort than you in the beginning, besides rare outlier cases it's because she knows she's aiming up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 03:12 PM |
| – | Women don't want 'fuckboys' , but they aren't attracted to men who don't the capabilities to be oneThis isn't really much different from men. If a woman is physically attractive enough, she'll always have a large pool of men to choose from. Men will overlook all types of circumstances for a fit, hot woman who dresses feminine and either is young or looks young. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/23 05:42 PM |
| 7 | CMV: women want sex as much as men do, but with the right person.I agree with you, but I think one of the reasons we have a "weaker desire" is because it's harder for us to orgasm. A lot of men don't give oral sex long enough to make a woman orgasm, if they do it at all. Many women don't either, but most men can orgasm from PIV while most women can't. I'd imagine that for many men, if "sex" involved them going down on a woman, not getting oral in return, fucking the woman until she cums and then her stopping and saying "that was great, huh?" and not getting y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 02:37 PM |
| 5 | All men seek two fundamental qualities in partners:😂😂💀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 12:12 PM |
| 18 | Are many average guys really refusing to give chubbier women a chance?Men here always still use examples of women with attractive "hourglass" figures, despite being overweight, as proof that men find overweight women attractive. But the reality is, most overweight women don't just "happen to" carry it in the right places. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 08:39 PM |
| 16 | Are many average guys really refusing to give chubbier women a chance?Because there's not enough slim/slim-thick women (esp in the US) for every man who's attracted to that body type. Anyone can choose to stay single if the people they're attracted to aren't attracted back, but then many men also complain about being single too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 08:33 PM |
| 8 | CMV : Your parents could mostly buy houses easily, you can’t. Your parents found partners and had families, you can’t. It’s normal.I think this is a very "half glass empty" perspective. There's a lot more signal to noise, and it's harder to get many people to commit to things because FOMO. I agree with that. But this generation has A LOT more knowledge/resources for mental health, addiction, community building (Meetup has tons of adult hobby groups) etc. It requires effort, but it's so much easier now for people to "find their people" if they try. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 02:54 PM |
| 10 | Beauty is subjective, but unattractive men should know their placeI'm a woman and even I know this isn't true. Sexual attention doesn't = romantic retention. A better guage as a woman is the highest attractiveness level of the people you can consistently get to take you seriously for a LTR. If most of the people you're attracted to also feel the same (reciprocal interest, not lukewarm breadcrumbing) that's your level. Getting casual sex as a woman means little to nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 03:28 PM |
| 19 | Beauty is subjective, but unattractive men should know their placeHe always posts the same curvy girl in the pink in multiple posts. For someone who thinks she's not worth much, she sure lives in his head rent free. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 03:17 PM |
| 7 | Is it true for most guys that there are more dating options in their 30s as pointed out on here?Resources don't have to just be exclusive to having a ton of money. "Resources" can literally just mean offering financial security, time, commitment, willingness to help raise a child, willingness to cohabitate, emotional security, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 09:17 PM |
| 2 | If you struggle with dating, you are BELOW averageBy your definition of "struggle" I guess I would agree. But people have different definitions of struggling, and the most common one is not being able to get dates/LTRs with the people you're interested in. Tons of average and even above-average people can struggle finding compatible people, depending on their standards, location, situation, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 04:55 PM |
| – | What's your unpopular dating opinion? Something you truly believe, but would get you downvoted if you said it?Meh... I think this is less true for women. Average face + banging hourglass body > super symmetrical face + average or slightly overweight body type | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 02:56 PM |
| 11 | Are men really the only ones that can’t take rejection? Or is that a baseless assumptionI think one of the bigger issues is, there's a lot of plausible deniability in terms of how women get rejected vs how men get rejected. Men will rarely tell a woman "You're not physically attractive enough for me to date, but I'll casually bang you." Instead, they'll go on a few dates, get the sex and then ghost/slow-fade. With men, they get rejected on the front-end more often. They make more approaches. They can put 2 and 2 together a bit easier - this type of woman is receptive to me, this ty… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 02:36 PM |
| 10 | Are men really the only ones that can’t take rejection? Or is that a baseless assumptionThe issue is that the 1 violent man can cause a lot more damage to society than the 30 women who just simply never approach men they're interested in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 02:24 PM |
| – | 2 years of online dating. Here are the things I've learned about womenThis exactly. It's more that women don't want to feel like they're being pressured/expected to have sex when they're unsure yet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/23 05:26 PM |
| 1 | One of the main reasons guys pay for dates is because it increases their chances of getting laid.If he's already asked for one check, I'm not going to bother the staff again just to get them to go back to split it. Especially if it's Applebees or something. I'm open to splitting, and also open to him paying if he wants. I could possibly pay next time. I don't want to spend that much energy harping over this issue. Any guy who offers to pay just as some sort of "test" and then gets mad about it later, wouldn't be a guy I'd stay into. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 05:22 PM |
| 0 | One of the main reasons guys pay for dates is because it increases their chances of getting laid.hasn't contributed to the courtship What do you mean by this? I ask because I've been in situations where a guy has asked for 1 check, the waitress walks away and I say "Are you sure?" Usually he says yes and I thank him. Sometimes I'll say "Okay, but next one is on me!" or something similar. Sometimes the guy says okay, other times he still insists on paying for future dates. I'll also make sure I'm contributing in other ways, like compliments, texting first occasionally, being part of planning… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 03:56 PM |
| 3 | Women constantly assert that men have inflated self images, yet it is abundantly clear that most men are desperate and have zero standards. Women, on the other hand, consistently feel entitled to men way out of their league and think they are models when they are completely average looking.This might be because people think you're too cocky if you rate yourself anything above a 7, even if others would rate you higher. If Madison Beer told people she thought she was a 9, they'd call her egotistical/stuck-up even if they technically agree with her. So the tactic is to play humble and have people tell you "Girl, you're way more attractive than a 6!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 07:40 PM |
| 6 | Women constantly assert that men have inflated self images, yet it is abundantly clear that most men are desperate and have zero standards. Women, on the other hand, consistently feel entitled to men way out of their league and think they are models when they are completely average looking.I think it can almost be easier to hold a "oh well" attitude about your looks, when you know you're average looking. It's not that you're confident because your think you're hot shit, you've just sort of accepted that your looks are what they are. And you're choosing to still love yourself. But when you know you're attractive, you're hyper aware that you're getting privilege from it. So you're more overly critical/don't want to lose what you have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 07:34 PM |
| 4 | Q4W: Is it safe to assume that women that don't respond to respect and vulnerability are probably emotionally unhealthy and not worth it anyway?This is true, but I understand why. Those women likely are going to be the easiest to have sex with, especially casual sex. They're the ones more likely to be in meat-market places like bars/clubs or Tinder. The strategy really isn't for finding a LTR. That might ultimately be the goal for some men eventually, but truly the incentive is having sex with various women and getting more dating/sexual experience. I think where the RP fails though, is they don't warn men that their strategy has to cha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/23 09:12 PM |
| 32 | Is the reason why single women are happier than single men because their celibacy is *mostly* a choice?This is exactly it. Women can outsource their needs a lot easier than men can. Platonic intimate friendships among men are generally stigmatized (bc "oh you're gay"), and platonic intimate friendships among men and women tend to lead to one person (usually the guy) catching feelings. Female friendships are often more emotional - you talk about personal stuff, compliment each other, cry together when going through a breakup. Women can also obviously find sex way easier than men. I'm not even just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/23 05:51 PM |
| 8 | This sub really needs to stop calling men who struggle in dating "socially inept"Good luck with that lol. With 70% of the US population being overweight, you're shooting yourself in the foot by telling most men to go for the 30% (probably more like 10-15% if we're being honest) of fit, highly desirable women who put effort into their looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/23 05:15 PM |
| 10 | The entire pill debate has been obscured and distracted by a bizarre fixation on unattractive men’s struggle. While this sucks, it actually makes logical sense unlike the main problem, which is average and above average men struggling to the degree they are.The problem is that we're talking about dating apps. Let's say attraction is a pie chart. Hypothetically let's say the chart is composed of looks, personality, commonality, and chemistry. As long as you meet the "neutral" looks bar for a woman, and you meet most of her other relationship needs, she'll happily date you. The problem is that the apps aren't set up to showcase all the other stuff. And it's easy to get dating app fatigue, not to mention meeting a literal stranger with the explicit pu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 05:11 PM |
| 6 | CMV Its so hard to become High Value as a Man, that its absolutely logical that most men off this caliber want to have sex with other women besides they're Wife/Girlfriend, i am really curious if someone can change my view on this.Eh, it exists... But is it common? I don't think so. The club is mostly a space for singles. Occasionally people who are coupled might go out with their friends or partner, but the majority of people I see frequently going out every weekend are single/not wanting monogamy (yet). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 01:13 PM |
| 12 | CMV : I feel a lot of posters still envision the “average” couple as some weird “wall mart” 35 year old man and woman who walked out of a 90’s time capsulethe actual majority of the population? How is this even debatable? Stats literally show 70% of the US population is overweight with 40% of those being obese. That % rises with age, but it isn't much lower for people 20+. Social media frontloads hotter people usually because those people catch others eyes and get more views. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 03:21 PM |
| 12 | Most beauty standards are enforced on women by other womenThe motivation is that almost EVERYONE treats you better. I got fit and had a "glow up" - night and day difference in treatment. People are nicer, I get more free stuff, people are more keen to invite me into their friend circles, it's just an all around better experience. I've been average Annie and the difference is insane. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 04:52 PM |
| 19 | You might as well go for the most attractive women possible.PPD Men: "Women only want CHAD they need to learn their SMV and only shoot for men in their price range" Also PPD men: "You might as well go for the hottest woman possible. What are leagues anyway?" 💀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 04:47 PM |
| 6 | Men who believe in monogamy, exclusivity and being faithful lose in this dating marketA lot of times, yes lol. The other 2 common scenarios are - A bi or curious woman with limited experience with women, wanting to explore her sexuality on the side (with his permission) or A bi woman who's primarily into women, but just happens to be in a LTR with a man (usually bc men will pursue harder so more options), looking for a girlfriend in addition to her bf. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 07:19 PM |
| 16 | Men who believe in monogamy, exclusivity and being faithful lose in this dating marketThis is 100% true. Poly/ENM is usually a pretty good deal for people who are bi, and straight women. I've done both monogamy and ENM (I'm a bi woman), and it's actually been way easier for me to find women to date in ENM than monogamy. I assume this is bc a lot of mono bi women end up in more LTRs with men, and mono lesbian women quickly couple up in "U-haul" relationships, so are rarely on the dating market. But if you're a guy who's ENM... Yeah, good luck. Especially if you're looking for 20s-… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 06:02 PM |
| 31 | When women have bad relationships they are told to “pick better” but when men are, we assign blame to womenAbsolutely, but the problem is men have a lot of control, but not full control of having a kid, like women do. All men have are condoms and pulling out. Maybe a condom with spermicide on it too. Very effective if used effectively, but sh*t happens. Like I said, you use a condom and pull out. But then the condom breaks and you had precum. She didn't take her bc on time, or it failed. She decides to keep the kid. There's nothing else a guy could've done to "put it in his own hands" besides not hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 05:24 PM |
| 10 | When women have bad relationships they are told to “pick better” but when men are, we assign blame to womenThis is such a strange comment haha, but here we go... Sigh... I was obviously comparing biological men to biological women. Biological men cannot get pregnant, so they cannot have the final say on getting an ab*rtion. ab*rtion has nothing to do with responsibility of being a parent. What? If a man gets a woman pregnant on accident, he doesn't have the final say on not having the kid. If the woman wants to have the child, she can. That was the argument. $400 a month? You do realize the average A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 05:17 PM |
| 22 | When women have bad relationships they are told to “pick better” but when men are, we assign blame to womenIt's completely relevant because it's one of the main causes of men getting into bad relationships and choosing women who don't align with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 04:47 PM |
| 153 | When women have bad relationships they are told to “pick better” but when men are, we assign blame to womenA few counterpoints: As a woman, the choice of having a kid or not is ultimately up to us. A man could use a condom, but it breaks. He could pull out, but sperm can be in precum. I could say I'm on birth control... but lie about it, forget to take it on time, or it could fail. It's rare, but it takes 1 time to happen and bam I'm pregnant. I get the final say, at the end of day. I can make a mistake as a woman, and still hit the eject button if all else fails. But if I decide to have the kid, the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 03:30 PM |
| 32 | Female women, what was the stupidest reason that made a guy break up/reject you?Female women 😂... In reality, I've had men I was really attracted to simply reject me because I came across too thirsty. Men say this doesn't happen to women, but it absolutely does, even when the guy approaches you first. In the cases this happened, I had been eyeing the guy for a while, so when he finally approached me I was way too nervous and fumbled it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 02:45 AM |
| 6 | CMV : A woman can almost ALWAYS find a better option within a couple of months of trying, so why would they settle?A lot of women actually are understanding this now, which is why the new PEW data is showing a large % of young women are not having sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 02:14 PM |
| – | It’s extremely rude to try to fix someone up with someone significantly less attractive than them, yet 99% of the time when a woman “wants you to meet someone” this is the case.If you're talking about just matches, yes apps have a 9-1 ratio in some places and men will bang a large range of women looks-wise. But if we're speaking in terms of actual ratings, I could think a guy is objectively an 8 but he's not my cup of tea. I can recognize someone is objectively attractive based on genetics, even if I'm not personally interested in them. But people will say they're a "7" thinking it's similar to school where 70% is a C. In actuality, most people are 4-6. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 08:41 PM |
| – | It’s extremely rude to try to fix someone up with someone significantly less attractive than them, yet 99% of the time when a woman “wants you to meet someone” this is the case.I agree that people on Reddit definitely overrate women. I don't agree that a man who's an 8 would be rated a 5 by most. 8+s are generally seen as "objectively" attractive, even if they might not be someone's personal type. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 08:33 PM |
| – | It’s extremely rude to try to fix someone up with someone significantly less attractive than them, yet 99% of the time when a woman “wants you to meet someone” this is the case.I said both genders if you'd actually read the comment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 08:28 PM |
| – | It’s extremely rude to try to fix someone up with someone significantly less attractive than them, yet 99% of the time when a woman “wants you to meet someone” this is the case.I was trying to be nice about it 😬 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 08:22 PM |
| – | It’s extremely rude to try to fix someone up with someone significantly less attractive than them, yet 99% of the time when a woman “wants you to meet someone” this is the case.Both genders get on Reddit and say they're a 7/8, and it's rarely ever true. People rated that high generally don't have any problem dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 08:07 PM |
| 11 | Q4M. What do you think is acceptable/tolerable for giga-stacies that is not for other women ?I'm a bi woman and my model-looking ex has BPD. My guess is a lot of men experienced what I did initially with my ex - she was the hottest woman I've ever dated, and was immediately infatuated with me. People with mental illness can hide it for a while. People w BPD often "mirror" their partners in the early stages - they'll latch onto that person's opinions, mannerisms, hobbies, etc. Or they'll pay close attention to the gaps they see you need filled in your life, and provide whatever they see … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 03:22 AM |
| 10 | Can somebody explain to me the difference between ghosting someone and giving them a vague rejection?Mostly it's just about closure and having common decency to let someone know you're not interested. A lot of guys who have ghosted me have tried to eventually circle back around. Then they act like I'm being a b*tch when I tell them I'm no longer interested. It can also be a mental mind-f*ck when you go on what you think is an amazing date, then get randomly blocked/ghosted. At least if the person has the decency to tell you they realize they don't see something long-term, you're not sitting the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 04:12 PM |
| 19 | Why do so many men here want casual sex?sleeping with you and then wanting nothing to do with you long term. This is an area that men and women are simply different. On average, if a woman sleeps with a man she'd most likely also date him. The same can't usually be said in the reverse. Inb4: "There's some men/women who...!" Yes, there's always going to be outliers, but on average it's true and everyone knows it. In the majority of heterosexual FWB situations I've seen/heard about, it's the woman who wants more. I rarely see lesbian wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 09:04 PM |
| 7 | Q4ALL: Do you know any men that previously had no success with women and were able to find it? Why do you think so many men believe that is impossible?I know tons of average/below men who don't struggle getting hookups or relationships... But they're usually dating in their league or below. They're not super nitpicky about the women, esp for casual... They know it's just sex so they'll bang an older woman, a single mom, a woman who's overweight, etc. Many of the dudes complaining here could have sex or dates if they lowered their standards. But they want the most desirable demographic physically to most men - fit/slim-thick feminine hot women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 11:52 PM |
| 12 | CMV: The most obvious reason why modern dating is broken is because women have too many options because of the internet.Exactly, but OP isn't exactly wrong either that it produces similar results. If a woman gets 1000 matches, it's not going to say next to each guy "This guy would actually date you seriously for a LTR" "This guy doesn't find you hot enough to date and just wants sex" etc. You'd have to go out with many men, and continue to date many to find out their real intentions. And a big issue now is that someone who's dating with serious intentions can "look" similar to someone with casual intentions at fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 04:49 PM |
| 3 | I don’t think men on here have a single clue about how women interpret attention from the opposite sexI think you're idealizing this a bit. Some men choose women they're not attracted to, due to limited options or just seeing that she'll provide for him. So they marry her knowing she'll cook, do his laundry, pay half the bills, clean the house. Meanwhile, he'll be following tons of IG models and complimenting them but not you. Or using your joint income to tip the OF model behind your back while y'all have a dead bedroom. I'm obviously exaggerating to make a point but, would that be special to y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 08:46 PM |
| 3 | CMV : The human brain doesn’t care about statistics, it perceives “average” as what’s physiologically possible, not numerical distributionThe problem with perceiving "average" this way is simply supply and demand. If there's a lineup of 100 people, and only 30 of them are perceived as "average" to you (% of non-overweight peeps) with maybe 10 as "above average" and 5 of those as "super hot," well... You can see the predicament. Most (wo)men are gunning for those 30 (wo)men, with a high concentration to the top 10, so regardless of what's average to you doesn't actually represent what's even available to you... Before even getting … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 05:26 PM |
| 6 | Bodyfat Percentage Is The Single Most Important Controllable Factor That Determines Your AttractivenessIsn't 16 BMI underweight? I'd disagree that putting on some weight, while doing weight exercises wouldn't do more for you. Men tend to like the hourglass figure more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 04:52 PM |
| 3 | What relationship advice would you give to people aged 18-25?This is a good one. Too often people will go in with the love language they enjoy doing, or the love language they want back... but not the language that actually speaks to their partner. If your partner's primary language is physical touch, but you enjoy giving/receiving words of affirmation... Well, that's cool, but recognize you can compliment your partner all day and it still won't mean as much to them as if you were physically affectionate. This is where a lot of relationships go wrong, in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 04:47 PM |
| 8 | Who and where are these invisible women?I don't know if this is a good litmus test anymore. Less men approach women IRL now. I've noticed when going out that most of the approaches go to the same small subset of younger, hot women. I see plenty of average women that would do well on an app, but because they're not getting dolled up or in the top 10-20% of hot women in a venue at that time, get overlooked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 02:40 PM |
| 34 | Who and where are these invisible women?Lol yeah this. When women say they're invisible, they often mean "for short periods of time" or "by men I'm interested in." When men say they're invisible, they far more often mean "I can go years without a single woman being interested." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 02:35 PM |
| – | People who say "Sex isn't a need" don't know how it is to be the average manNot all, but many. Yes. Many women also suck in bed. The difference is, orgasm is pretty easy for most men to achieve regardless. I've heard from many men that "sex is like pizza, even when it's not amazing it's still pretty good." The same can't be said by women. When we have sex, it can be physically painful. Even when it's decent or okay, many men don't stimulate the clit or give oral sex. Or even when they do, it isn't long enough or skilled enough to produce an orgasm. This is especially tr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 06:25 PM |
| 15 | CMV: Dating gets harder for men as they get older, not easierWhat does that even look like? Becoming skillful at starting conversations with women, putting yourself in environments to socialize with more women in general, learning flirtation/banter skills, learning to read IOIs, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 09:26 PM |
| 3 | Women, what is your age range in men?I'm 27F. At 18, I didn't have a hard line but it was pretty much whoever was around my college campus. So 18-23ish. At 21, my range was 21-30. I preferred the ability to do night life stuff with a few drinks with a partner. At 27, my range is 25-35. I'm heavily into fitness and enjoy dressing up, so it's really more about having the right combo of looks/emotional intelligence for me. People around my age either look super hot or way beat down. My age range isn't firm. I wouldn't cut someone off … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 06:57 PM |
| – | You wanna know why it’s hard for men to find casual sex? I’ll tell you why.Real FWBs are honestly rare. It's a tricky combo - you have to like someone enough to enjoy their company outside of sex, and there has to be enough physical attraction/sexual compatibility to want to have, and continue to have sex with them... BUT there also has to be some glaring incompatibility between you two that makes both parties not want to pursue a LTR. Most guys hear "bootycall" when they think of FWB. Not genuine friendship. If you want a genuine friendship, you usually have to build … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 03:35 PM |
| – | You wanna know why it’s hard for men to find casual sex? I’ll tell you why.Men who are physically attractive with good conversation skills are likely going to just be meeting women through organic means, or being on the "mainstream" apps (Tinder, Bumble, Hinge, etc). They're less likely to be responding to a woman's "personal ad" for a FWB. If you want a quality guy for sex, get on the mainstream apps or go out IRL and make the first move. Pinpoint the types of men you want and pursue them. Anecdotal, don't hate: Some men are just low-effort regardless. But many men wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 03:32 PM |
| 25 | Men being required to ask women out overvalues womenYup. Some women do shoot their shot, but it's usually either men they've built some rapport with... and/or men they're extremely attracted to. If a woman hits on you as a man, there's a much higher likelihood she's genuinely into/has been preparing how to approach you for a while. Women usually aren't just throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 10:59 PM |
| 34 | Men being required to ask women out overvalues womenLmao, I was thinking the same. 3x abortion? Was she carrying around one of those stamp coupons where if you purchase 3 abortions, you get the 4th one free? 💀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 10:51 PM |
| 7 | Most women aren't on dating apps. So how are they getting relationships or having sex?The is VERY dependent on the location, venue, and time. The issue is, people are impatient and they give up on things too easily. So they go to a venue once, see that everyone's huddled in a group, and make claims like you're making. Not realizing that it might've just been the wrong day/event, or the wrong vibe for them. That place might suck, but the other place 5 mins away has tons of strangers mingling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 06:51 PM |
| 14 | Women objectify themselves.This isn't objectification, it's marketing. Women know that men are visual. Y'all tell us this all the time. We know for the most part that men aren't lining up for our "dazzling personality, witty sense of humor, and charisma" without first having an attractive enough face or body type. And the more desirable the man, the higher his standards are usually going to be for looks before even taking the other things into consideration. The fact I play guitar and love stand-up comedy is interesting t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 03:47 PM |
| 16 | Women of PPD, how often do you get hit on in public?This is so location based. I live in the Midwest, and people will chat me up occasionally at bars/clubs when I go but they're usually not direct about their intentions. I went to Miami on vacation with my best friend, and we got honked at/hollered at like 30 times just from a 15 minute walk from our AIRBNB to the Planet Fitness. And we got hit on at every bar/club multiple times. We're both fit and pretty cute, but not supermodels. It was kinda shocking because you'd think in Miami, people are u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 07:09 PM |
| 12 | I think the biggest problem in dating is that women are simply not honest about what they are attracted to, and despite the fact that men have learned this they are simply told: “so you’re going to tell an actual woman what she wants?” When men say never take dating advice from women.Average isn't about the "median" in terms of dating though. It's about what's common. When 70% of the US is overweight, with 40% of that being obese, a woman with a 19-21 BMI is not average in the slightest. 20 is my BMI, and I'm 5'6 125. I'm HEAVILY into fitness, and eat healthy. It's worth it, but it's not easy. It requires consistency and dedication. You thinking that a fitness yoga body is the "average" is just such insanity in today's obesity epidemic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 08:16 PM |
| – | I think the biggest problem in dating is that women are simply not honest about what they are attracted to, and despite the fact that men have learned this they are simply told: “so you’re going to tell an actual woman what she wants?” When men say never take dating advice from women.Great debate 👍 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 07:19 PM |
| 16 | I think the biggest problem in dating is that women are simply not honest about what they are attracted to, and despite the fact that men have learned this they are simply told: “so you’re going to tell an actual woman what she wants?” When men say never take dating advice from women.Did you not read my full comment? The point is, Pam is not the average woman in the US. She's above average. Yes, of course most average men would take a woman who's above average. But would most average men date (not just bang) the women in the 2nd link? And happily date, not just begrudgingly when they don't have other options? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 07:16 PM |
| 7 | I think the biggest problem in dating is that women are simply not honest about what they are attracted to, and despite the fact that men have learned this they are simply told: “so you’re going to tell an actual woman what she wants?” When men say never take dating advice from women.Men say this, but I actually had a similar convo with a guy on PPD a few months ago that illustrated the issue. The commenter said when he thought of "the average woman," he's thinking of a woman who looks like 'Pam' from The Office, around that range of attractiveness: https://www.google.com/search?q=pam+the+office Basically a woman who's not overweight, still feminine but more of a "plain Jane" type, but still cute. But we both live in the US, which means the actual average woman looks more li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 06:58 PM |
| 40 | I think the biggest problem in dating is that women are simply not honest about what they are attracted to, and despite the fact that men have learned this they are simply told: “so you’re going to tell an actual woman what she wants?” When men say never take dating advice from women.This is 100% accurate, but it's not really gender-specific. You have a whole subset of men saying "Please women! Ask us out! Us men LOVE when women pursue who they want!" They give this advice imagining the hot woman he's been drooling over for months approaching him first. Or even just the cute slim down-to-earth girl who's still attractive. They're not thinking of the Momma Junes in the back of the bar coming up to them and starting a conversation. They're not thinking of the acne face, obese … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 05:01 PM |
| 70 | What is your unpopular opinion regarding your own gender that could make others call you a gender traitor?Bi woman here. My unpopular opinion from dating a lot of women is many women have the same desperate energy for a relationship, as men have for sex. Women will often think they're more virtuous for this, but for a lot of them, it comes from codependency and wanting to get swept up in a fantasy, not from actually wanting to build a life with that specific person. Instead of going on dates to access compatibility, and being honest about not having it, many women will meet someone they're into and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 02:01 PM |
| 9 | What is your unpopular opinion regarding your own gender that could make others call you a gender traitor?I think a lot of women do know where we stand on average, but then sometimes you luck out and are able to "date up." I see it happen to men too. Maybe on average you mostly attract 5-6's, but occasionally you attract a 7-8. Even if you know deep down you're closer to the former, it's hard to not start making comparisons going forward. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 01:36 PM |
| 26 | CMV : I think the problem is that whilst people realize they are not special or top 1 percent, deep down, id say over 90 percent of people believe they are AT LEAST in the top 50 percent in some wayThe reality is, the bottom 50% of men/women in the US are overweight (bordering on obese) and not conventionally attractive. Both genders do this, it's not just women. Thought experiment - go to a neutral place like a park, beach, dive bar, grocery store, etc. Look at all the people, and calculate what % of people you actually find attractive. Avoid places like the gym or bars/clubs you already know cater to good looking peeps. Most people in their day-to-day life laser in on people they find ph… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 03:20 PM |
| 12 | Have you ever tried look at dating from opposite sex's perspective, by making a fake account?Interesting you say this, cause as a bi woman I prefer dating women. Reason being, it's easier with women to tell who's actually into you and who's not. If I make it 3+ dates with a woman, the odds it's going to last or lead to something committed is high. With men, they have higher baseline interest, but a much higher chance of it not going anywhere. And it takes longer to see what their actual interest level in you is, cause many of em will fake it to get laid (or get catch up in the novelty).… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/23 04:38 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Fresh and Fit don't teach men to succeed.It's funny you say this, given how many PPD dudes get angry at women for wanting to casually date in their 20s and then settle down in their 30s. Don't those same men also feel young women's dating choices should be controlled? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 09:20 PM |
| 11 | There is a 50/50 male to female ratio, but somehow more than half of young men are single. How does this make sense?This. The 29 age cut off skews the #s massively. I genuinely believe that's the biggest reason for the % difference - a large % of women in the 26-29 range dating men in their early 30s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 06:16 PM |
| 13 | There is a 50/50 male to female ratio, but somehow more than half of young men are single. How does this make sense?Most women don't "prefer" to share anyone, but if your options are a STR with someone you're attracted to, or a LTR with someone you're not attracted to... It should be obvious which option is more appealing. Especially in your early 20s when most people aren't looking to immediately settle down/have kids (regardless of what PPD dudes here say I rarely see men wanting that in their early 20s). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 06:13 PM |
| – | What's the real reason you don't want a relationship with your fwb?I'm a woman. The reason I don't want a LTR with my FWB (and vice versa) is because he has BPD. My last ex had it, and I know I can't handle the emotional instability in a LTR. For friends it's fine. For men though, the biggest reason is not meeting the physical attraction bar for a LTR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 04:41 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Most men are totally okay with waiting to have sex, but they're scared of being friendzoned so they feel pressured to make moves on datesFor sure, which is why context is so important IMO. Instead of the comparison game, it's better to simply ask yourself what you value in a partner and what's "nice to have." Timelines matter too. If my boyfriend was "simpy" with women in the past, but became more cautious and improved his confidence/self-esteem, I'm completely fine doing cheap dates or splitting to begin with. I'm not much of a gifts person, I value quality time/physical touch, so gifts are whatever. But if I did value that, I'd… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 04:26 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Most men are totally okay with waiting to have sex, but they're scared of being friendzoned so they feel pressured to make moves on datesSo in my example that I just mentioned... Would the man in question not be witholding time, attention, commitment, gift giving, etc, until he sees genuine reciprocation of interest on her part? This is a good thing btw, you should be vetting and qualifying people before you show any serious type of investment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 04:15 PM |
| 30 | CMV: Most men are totally okay with waiting to have sex, but they're scared of being friendzoned so they feel pressured to make moves on datesThere's a huge difference though between a sweet kiss at the end of a good date, vs someone trying to sleep with you on the 1st date. When most women are talking about men immediately aiming for sex, they're rarely talking about a guy who simply leans in for a kiss at the end of a date. There's a wide spectrum between kissing and fucking, and plenty of ways to show/express romantic intent without immediately angling for sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 04:10 PM |
| 28 | CMV: Most men are totally okay with waiting to have sex, but they're scared of being friendzoned so they feel pressured to make moves on datesGenuine question - If a man has been a "nice guy" all his life, and in his past bought women flowers, chocolates, took them on crazy expensive dates immediately in an effort to "win them over"... and then realized it didn't work/didn't get him the outcomes he wanted... Basically the women in his life all used him for free attention/validation... Should I expect the same treatment immediately, simply because he did do those things in the past? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 03:58 PM |
| 2 | CMV Women rating 80% of men as unattractive just proves women find different things attractiveYou're on the right track, but the actual problem is lack of IRL socialization for a large % of young people. Also not enough ways to meet new people that don't involve alcohol. OLD apps don't work for most men, because women priorize behavioral traits higher in their attraction towards men. I could see a man's photo and think "meh," but then meet him IRL and the way he talks, behaves, his humor, charisma etc makes me attracted to him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 05:51 PM |
| 25 | How did we get to this point where playing games is seen as normal?Yup. The other thing is, people enjoy limerance and the dopamine rush that comes from a new love interest. Familiarity and always being available does not give human beings as much dopamine as intermittent reinforcement. Desire is often created and maintained with space apart, not being together 24/7. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 11:20 PM |
| 15 | Are forever girlfriends another category of women?I agree with this. It's a lot easier in your late teens/20s to not have a strict timeline for marriage/kids, and if you've been together with someone so long, it's possible some women aren't directly asking for a timeline... because they're afraid of rocking the boat/sunk-cost fallacy if it leads to a disagreement. But a man dating in his 30s+ probably has more women being upfront about what they're looking for, so when he meets someone he likes, he knows that's the price of admission. This is w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 07:53 PM |
| 2 | Is the idea of being rejected by men you are interested in for shallow reasons hard to accept?Agreed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 11:15 PM |
| 13 | Is the idea of being rejected by men you are interested in for shallow reasons hard to accept?It's hard for some people to get over it, not really gender-exclusive. I think it's also harder to face when you're rejected for things about yourself you can't change, like your height or facial symmetry or age. It's hard to accept someone else has 100x more opportunity to find attention, affection, intimacy, love, connection just bc their parents had good genes. Yeah, people should just get over it, but being denied basic biological needs, or the realization you have to work 100x harder to jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 11:10 PM |
| 10 | CMV: TRP romanticizes men and demonizes womenI've definitely heard of those types and don't doubt that at all. I'm also bi and have dealt with similar on occasion. Women getting immediately attached. Wasn't trying to imply it could only be towards 1 gender. I don't know of any dudes personally Well I presume you don't date men as a woman, so it's easier to not see it. And friends tend to give you their version of stories, they're usually not going to admit when they've acted desperate or sometimes can't even see it in their own behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 04:25 PM |
| 1 | When a girl says she loves you, what she loves is what you do for her, how you make her feel and the lifestyle she's able to participate in by being with you.And men prefer women for their youth, beauty, and being a baby-making machine... not solely their "dazzling personalities" or who they are. How is that any more virtuous? There's 100s of posts here every month warning women that once their looks decline, so will any hope of them ever finding love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 03:06 PM |
| 38 | CMV: TRP romanticizes men and demonizes womenBasically NO woman I've met/dated has preferred certainty to uncertainty Anecdotal, but I find it harder these days in modern dating to find a happy medium between "guy who is obsessed with you and planning your future after 2 dates" and "guy who only texts you at 2am and doesn't want commitment." No doubt there's plenty of insecure/narcissistic women only interested in the "thrill of the chase," but I also think part of preferring "uncertainty" is wanting a guy with self-respect who isn't just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 03:01 PM |
| 2 | Why Are You Single?Most of the women who rate themselves 8/9 are definitely not that, you're right. But on a 1-10 scale, "average" is a 5 and most of the women PPD dudes say they want here are not the statistical US "average" woman. Having a healthy BMI already puts you in the top 30%, being fit, feminine, and dressing nice probably top %10-15. Most people simply aren't that hot; social media lets us believe good looking people who aren't supermodels are average, when in reality the "average" person is overweight … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/23 03:20 PM |
| 10 | Can most men really afford to cut off women who don't reciprocate their effort?Most men want an attractive woman, just like this post says. Attractive usually meaning younger, feminine, not overweight. Those women have options. If most men or the average man wants that woman, he's going to have to do more to get her. Most women are not attractive. Hell, most people aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 12:44 PM |
| 8 | Are men far more accepting to neurodivergence than women when it comes to dating?I'd be curious to see how many of those sexual experiences were in LTRs. My theory is probably that autistic women can get hookups/initial dates easy, but will struggle with finding long-term relationships with NT men unless they mask well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 01:28 AM |
| 8 | Women's passivity and ease of dating makes it hard to feel sympathy for their dating strugglesBecause people try to act like these things are gender-specific when they're not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 08:00 PM |
| 14 | Women's passivity and ease of dating makes it hard to feel sympathy for their dating strugglesI don't consider it suspicious at all, because men have higher sex drives than women and will go on dates with women they're "meh" about. On average, men go on the initial date in hopes of having sex. Then after the sex, they assess whether or not they'd actually date that woman. Some even know they wouldn't date the woman seriously, but still go along with it initially for the sex. Men and women have different dating challenges. Women who want a LTR have to wade through a bunch of men mainly ju… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 05:00 PM |
| 26 | Women's passivity and ease of dating makes it hard to feel sympathy for their dating strugglesI don't know about the manosphere men specifically, but men and women have around equal levels of obesity statistically. 70% of the US is overweight. So no, it's not that men as a whole are just putting in all this effort into their fitness, looks, style, confidence, social skills, etc and then looking around and no women are doing the same. More like both genders are fairly lazy and apathetic towards dating, don't put in the required effort and have unrealistic standards. Sure, there's men/wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 03:42 PM |
| 21 | Women's passivity and ease of dating makes it hard to feel sympathy for their dating strugglesCouldn't the same be said about men? They sit around on manosphere forums complaining about women, no genuine women come because they have no social skills/are also fat slobs, but they refuse to put effort in to lose weight and learn social calibration to attract the women they want... yet complain all women are egotistical/delusional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 03:29 PM |
| 29 | Women's passivity and ease of dating makes it hard to feel sympathy for their dating strugglesExactly. Men act like they'd give the same treatment to a woman with their ideal body type/looks as they would the 5'4 170lbs average woman in the US. C'mon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 02:44 PM |
| 15 | Women's passivity and ease of dating makes it hard to feel sympathy for their dating strugglesOf course they don't. These men have bent over backwards in the past for women, realized it didn't get them the outcomes they wanted so now they've learned to vet women's interest. When women do they same, it's "betabuxxx". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 02:43 PM |
| 5 | Women's passivity and ease of dating makes it hard to feel sympathy for their dating strugglesNo, they're not. Women have 100x more casual sex options than LTR options. Especially if they're not fit/feminine/conventionally attractive. Most of those men would never, ever, ever date those women. They're attractive enough to bang, but not take seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 02:28 PM |
| 7 | Women's passivity and ease of dating makes it hard to feel sympathy for their dating strugglesmultiple fwbs FWBs don't make a woman valuable. This is like a man bragging about having multiple sugar babies. Yes, she's delusional for somehow thinking dudes wanting to casually bang her means anything besides them being horny for anything. Men (on average) will smash a wide range of women, but the women they're willing to give a solid approach to (not a drunk pickup) and ask on a real date (not Netflix and chill)? A much smaller pool of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 02:22 PM |
| 48 | Women's passivity and ease of dating makes it hard to feel sympathy for their dating strugglesA few thoughts: You're comparing the initial dating stages to being in a LTR, which are 2 different skill sets. A man could be a great dater, and be putting his "best foot forward" in the initial stages. Then as the relationship progresses, the effort/care decreases. Unfortunately, you often can't 100% know how a LTR will work with someone until you're in it with them. Someone could be attentive in the 1st year, then switch once kids/cohabitation happen. I also think you significantly overestima… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 02:05 PM |
| 22 | CMV: Men see younger men as other men, where women see younger women as little children. This is at the core of many disagreements on PPD.Agreed. I think another reason it's more pronounced with women is because of women's biological clock. You can go on subs like r/datingoverforty and see tons of posts about how hard it is for women to "match" with men within their age range, likely because if they want kids they're aiming younger. Then you factor in that you need to get to know someone, spend some time together as a couple before deciding on marriage/kids, and at any point one person changing their mind means starting the proces… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/23 05:09 PM |
| 5 | Men Desire Romantic Relationships More Than Women DoNah, this isn't why IMO. Gay culture is a lot different than lesbian culture. It's a lot easier to find casual sex as a gay man than a LTR, so my theory is those gay male couples who DO get married are probably a lot more compatible. Where lesbian culture is very "U-haul." As in "What do you bring to 2nd date with a lesbian? A U-haul." Lesbians tend to commit quickly when they find someone they like; They get caught up in the NRE/honeymoon phase so they usually bulldoze over numerous red flags. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 11:38 PM |
| 9 | Given we are living in an age of sexual liberation and mutual promiscuity; why is there still a narrative that men “use” woman for sex?Women still want relationships more often than men This is true, but I feel like it's mostly because men (esp ones with options) have caught on to the fact women often give them a "better deal" in a casual relationship vs a serious one. When a woman is really trying to "lock a man down," she'll do the most. Sexy lingerie, bringing him food, banging him like a p*rnstar, being accommodating of his time/schedule, being fun/flirtatious/adventerous. ... Some of these men have started dating these wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 05:39 PM |
| 22 | Given we are living in an age of sexual liberation and mutual promiscuity; why is there still a narrative that men “use” woman for sex?This 100% happens, I agree. But I think what also happens equally as much is: Guy meets a gal. He's physically attracted to her and enjoys her company. He's open to a LTR with the right person, but happy to have casual sex/dating in the meantime. They date for a while, have sex, etc. Then when the "what are we" conversation comes up, he says he wants to keep it casual. Which is true, but the silent part is with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 05:13 PM |
| 8 | Marriage is an L for menThis. You can even go to subreddits like r/swingers and see the constant topics about how hard it is to find attractive males in a couple, how the woman is a smoke show and the guy let himself go... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 05:02 PM |
| 35 | Studies saying women are "happier single" than men are extremely misleadingExactly. Many of his examples are about how women can instantly get casual sex. True, but then she's risking a possible STD (most casual sex guys are not gonna get tested for a stranger), stealthing, danger risks/assault, potential pregnancy if the condom breaks, all for not even getting an orgasm (because most women orgasm via clitoral stimulation from oral, and many casual sex dudes do not put the amount of effort in required for a woman to orgasm)... Many women are desperate for authentic con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 04:40 PM |
| 2 | Men like sex, women like attentionI feel like this isn't 100% accurately describing lifestyle clubs. 1st, you forgot to mention that lifestyle clubs are primarily for swingers. The main clientele is M/F couples who have been together for years, and/or are married. And they usually go to these clubs with a specific fantasy in mind. It's not like these clubs have tons of single women running around, and the few that do attend get a zillion offers because couples have the MFF fantasy. So of course those women have to reject people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/23 05:06 PM |
| 3 | Men like sex, women like attentionI don't agree with this. You'll see countless examples of men cheating on beautiful women with a woman who's uglier, just because that woman made him feel desired. And why do so many men send unsolicited 🍆 pics? They want to be complimented and desired for their body parts too, women just don't have the same reactions to it as men do with boobs/butts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/23 04:51 PM |
| 1 | Men like sex, women like attentionThis is simply not true. If a woman is highly attracted to a man and he's good in bed, she's going to want sex with him. If he doesn't have sex with her, she will eventually feel inadequate or unattractive regardless of how much "attention" he gives her. "A man just wanting sex with you is literally the worst" It usually is, though. It's dangerous to constantly put yourself out there to have sex with men casually. You don't know if they'll respect your boundaries, actually give you an orgasm, tr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/23 04:46 PM |
| 12 | Why do overweight women have such an easy time getting sex, but a very hard time finding a relationship?Good faith response here... I 100% agree that hormones/genetics play a role, and also some medications cause weight gain. But wouldn't you agree this is the minority, not the majority? I fully believe that the super fit, hourglass figure with a flat stomach is going to be unachievable to most women. But most people who are over 200lbs are not that way solely based off factors they can't control. Most people can easily be at a healthy weight by healthy eating and exercising, even if they're not s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 08:34 PM |
| 8 | Discussion : My theory as to why dating on apps is so hardBut 80% of the apps user base is men, so even if an equal % were using it to find a LTR, there's still not enough women using the apps for every man looking. There's also a larger % of men looking for LTRs who would still take casual sex in the meantime if it was offered. Some women would do the same, but yeah, in a meat market where ratios are completely out of whack and what you're selling has high demand and low(er) supply, of course the asking price will be raised. Of course they're going to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 03:55 PM |
| 19 | Discussion : My theory as to why dating on apps is so hardI can have sex with 4-5 new women per YEAR off of online apps. How is this bad? Once upon a time, you had to to marry a woman just to be able to have sex with her. You could only have sex with 1 woman for the rest of your life, unless you got a rare opportunity to cheat and risk losing your family/foundation you've built together. Most women want LTRs, not casual sex, so of course the smaller % who are open to NSA want it with the hottest guys possible. Men here will always call women delusional… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 02:39 PM |
| 11 | Do ugly women really have it harder than pretty women?100% agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/23 07:59 PM |
| 3 | Do ugly women really have it harder than pretty women?I like floral, form fitting dresses. Bustier type dresses. Bodycon dresses. Etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/23 07:59 PM |
| 45 | Do ugly women really have it harder than pretty women?I'm a woman who used to be painfully average, and while I'm no supermodel now, I've gotten serious about fitness, feminine clothing, and light makeup. The difference in treatment is night and day. When I occasionally go out with friends, guys offer to buy me drinks at 10pm, not just during "last call" when they're sloshed and exhausted other options. People are nicer to me even in a platonic way. Women compliment my clothing and gas me up. Social groups are generally more inviting and it's easie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/23 04:50 PM |
| 3 | Question 4 Women: Has PPD and TRP made you less trustful of men or dislike them?I might not personally like individual men, but men as a whole? Nah. If anything, RP content has been helpful for me in the way that it shows me how a decent portion of men think/operate. I think women sometimes go into dating situations feeling like men are just as complex/nuasanced as they are, so they overanalyze behavior that has a clear answer and a simple solution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 09:59 PM |
| 8 | You can't expect women to care about "purity", as long as they keep getting inconsistent messages from men.....This simply isn't always true. Some women, just like some men, only prefer sex in the context of exclusive relationships. The men who don't like this are free to reject those women if he prefers the opposite, but different types of people move at different paces. And it doesn't always indicate lack of interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 07:06 PM |
| 21 | How are short man supposed to date?If the profile pic is you, you have an attractive face even bald. That alone goes a long way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 01:16 PM |
| 4 | CMV : Being the guy who shes obsessed with because you treat her as disposable ALWAYS comes with the double edge sword of you don’t actually want her, despite her being “hot”I disagree that it's always "meaningless and empty" sex. A lot of "Chads" sleep with the same women for months, and emotional connections are formed on both ends. Maybe not with every woman he sleeps with, but there's usually at least a few. It's just that he doesn't want a LTR/commitment, and wants to keep his options open, so he doesn't give them consistency. When you start to give a FWB consistency and they like you, that's when the "what are we" conversations start... So yeah, it's sad to sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 01:32 AM |
| 1 | The Rise in Online and Bar/Club-scene Dating, and the Decrease in Social Circle Dating Explains Poor Outcomes, Due to Reduced Reputation EffectsA lot of couples used to form based on financial need/family and societal pressure, despite tons of fundamental incompatibilities. Now that the pressure isn't so prominent, more people are choosing to stay single until/unless they find someone who adds the right value to their lives. It's too easy to lie Sure, but that's a vetting problem. And can be solved with people asking more questions and taking time to get to know eachother. Apps just open the pool up. Sure, many people suffer from option… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 06:00 PM |
| 7 | The Rise in Online and Bar/Club-scene Dating, and the Decrease in Social Circle Dating Explains Poor Outcomes, Due to Reduced Reputation EffectsIt's funny that you bring this study up to make a point that online dating doesn't work, when this study literally says 39% of heterosexual COUPLES met online. Meaning they didn't get P&Dd, they met online and are now in a relationship. 20% are still meeting through friends as opposed to 33%. Yes it's a decrease, but not a monumental one. The reason online dating has had such an increase in popularity is because people can look for others who fit their specific values, lifestyle goals, etc. I ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 05:47 PM |
| 19 | Do you see men's very low standards for sex as a good or bad thing?This 100%. Society tells us that women's worth is dictated by getting commitment from a man, but I think a lot of women are starting to wake up to that. Because for a lot of women now, "commitment" means paying half of the bills while still doing the majority of the household chores. There's even a saying that older men dating are looking for "a nurse and a purse." A subset of men also choose "betabuxxx" women who don't REALLY get them going (to the same degree their 'type' does) but they know w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/23 10:15 PM |
| 42 | [CMV] Men who seek to date conventionally attractive women are compensatingThis is just the mentality of casual sex vs a long-term relationship. Once the novelty and honeymoon phase wears off, you actually have to like the person you're with. And men who have had experience dating a lot of "hot but egotistical/narcissistic women" know that. Healthy people looking for a LTR are looking for baseline attraction + connection, commonality, and lifestyle compatibility. People who are looking for casual sex are often looking for validation and an ego-boost on top of the sex. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/23 03:39 PM |
| 24 | Obesity has absolutely nuked the chance to go on a date with even regular womenHighest cost of living usually though lol. Honestly, I don't think this is as big of a deal as people make it. If you're fit/active, you can put yourself in environments (the gym, activity meetup groups, yoga class etc) to meet other people who are similar, and dating can come out of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/23 03:22 PM |
| 4 | Why won’t my situationship commit to me?Do men really want more than a fun happy girl they get along with really well? Most men do, absolutely! But this guy isn't most men. He's a good looking, financially successful man. He has tons of options of fun happy women he gets along with well. Men like that don't have much incentive to settle down outside of finding a woman who really knocks their socks off. Even then, the woman has to truly be an asset to their life. How is commitment going to be a net benefit to him? Because right now, he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 02:20 PM |
| 12 | Would you be okay with your partner having a good friend of the opposite sex?I kind of agree, but I also think there's a large % of people who don't intentionally go out looking to cheat, but would if the right circumstance fell into their lap. For example, I wouldn't date someone who does hard drugs like coke/molly or was into the party scene... Because I know what behavior comes with that lifestyle, and even people who have good intentions can be swayed by their environment. I do agree that trying to control who someone's friends with is a recipe for disaster though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 12:31 AM |
| 6 | Why isn't the plight of unattractive women ever talked about?Yeah, I agree with this. Honestly, I go to my local gym and rarely see any woman there I can't find something attractive about. If you're a woman with a meh face, but you wear light makeup, workout, eat healthy, wear nice clothing, and have nice hair, you're probably far above average esp in the US. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/23 03:47 PM |
| 5 | Slut shaming is bad, but what's the actual appeal of being a promiscuous woman?You're right that I think a lot of women try to "seduce" a man who wouldn't otherwise be interested in a LTR with her, with sex. But your analogy makes it seem like those women don't actually want sex with that man. In reality, they probably want sex with those men the most. They feel the actual raw visceral attraction to him. They might not particularly enjoy the "casual" part of it, but I do believe they genuinely enjoy the sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/23 03:47 PM |
| 20 | Analogy: Male attention is like air for women, Female attention is like food for menI'm genuinely trying to understand what actual point you're trying to make, because your post and comments are all over the place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 04:15 PM |
| 47 | Analogy: Male attention is like air for women, Female attention is like food for menSo you're saying that women wanting male attention is narcissistic, but men wanting female attention for status and high-fives from his friends is "real love"? Lol, okay. Sure, everyone likes an ego-boost here and there, and for people to find them attractive. But most women don't actually want a ton of male attention - they want a relationship and know they have to "cast a wide net" to find a man they're attracted to, compatible with, who also wants them back. That's the end goal for most women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 03:18 PM |
| 7 | Are women more content with being sexless?IMO, men are more visually stimulated while women are more mentality stimulated... so that probably explains the disparity. Women also tend to (on average) have more of a reactive libido, that "turns on" based on the environment, context, and how a partner makes them feel in that moment. Men usually have more of a spontaneous libido; they get turned on easily and don't need a narrative/plot to get turned on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 03:54 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women, can you meet your own standards?The reality is the VAST MAJORITY of people are attracted to people who are "more attractive than them." That's human nature. The top 10% of both men and women on Hinge get 45-58% of the apps total likes, while the bottom 50% of men and women get barely anything (4-8% of total likes). The math ain't mathin for everyone to be "staying in their league." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 04:54 PM |
| 1 | Male beauty standards are much harder to meet than women'sYou're right that the standard men have to be considered "so attractive he turns heads when he walks into a room, or from a static photo" is much higher than women's. The caveat, though, is men have so many other things they can do to boost their attractiveness that aren't just looks related. Average looking men can get gorgeous women by being charismatic, funny, social, and assertive. Women can pretty much only get gorgeous men by being a gorgeous woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 05:39 PM |
| 1 | Do men really want traditionalism more than women?Quit reaching. It's obvious the verbiage meant "get a woman to date/have sex with him." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/23 05:01 PM |
| 0 | Do men really want traditionalism more than women?Just the ones who can't get either sex or a relationship with women (who they want). Is that better? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/23 04:39 PM |
| 12 | Do men really want traditionalism more than women?I know a ton of average men (average meaning overweight, not awful looking but pretty unnoticeable, etc) who wouldn't want traditionalism either. I think it's more the men who don't want to be social, don't want to put effort into their looks/grooming, who want things to go back to "the old days" when you could be a shut-in, unremarkable neckbeard and still get a hot, submissive wife if you had a paycheck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/23 03:30 PM |
| 22 | Do men really want traditionalism more than women?Do men really want traditionalism more than women? Nah, just the ones who can't get women. I can't think of a single guy I actually know IRL who would prefer no sex until marriage, or having to pay for everything, or not being able to casually date before finding someone compatible to commit to. The men who complain about lack of "traditionalism" are usually the ones not reaping the rewards of modern dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/23 02:12 PM |
| 19 | Adults of PPD, do you have friends who just can't get a relationship despite being good potential partners?Well don't keep us waiting... Spill the 🍵 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/23 03:40 AM |
| 12 | Boyfriend/Husband Material Men Getting Less Than What Other Guys GotUsually being single again means you have more free time. When you're not focused on planning meals, down time, hobbies, etc around another person, it becomes easier to prioritize things like working out. And expecting your partner to stay in shape means you would also need to support their workout routine. Meaning you take care of the kids every other day (or whatever schedule) while they go to the gym. Also means practicing what you preach. Don't have snacks and junk food all around the house,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/23 04:17 PM |
| 3 | Fewer women on apps because treated badly?I agree with you that women need to be more vocal, and I say that as a woman myself. But honestly, as a guy you should just expect that most women are going to want a kiss by the end of the 2nd date. When women say they don't want men "moving too fast physically," they're usually referring to sex. Not a small kiss at the end of a good date. why can't she just ask me if we can kiss? Women (on average) like men who are assertive and make the 1st move. I'm not saying it's fair, but that's how it is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/23 12:03 AM |
| 5 | Most young men are single. Most young women are not. Why?That's what I just said lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/23 05:41 PM |
| 16 | Most young men are single. Most young women are not. Why?Kissing a woman a few times or a drunk hookup isn't the same as being in a LTR with one. Most bisexual women I know usually pair up with men because there's more of them, and they make the first move. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/23 05:20 PM |
| 34 | What do you think about the lonely but successfull men who get a fwb with money instead of getting married?Nowhere because this story is fake. Lol. A mid-range escort is about $300/hr, and that's on the low end. If you're talking about a 10/10 model looking escort, some charge upwards of 1k+ for just a night. A model-looking escort isn't going to have daily sex with a dude she's not into, just for rent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/23 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Are normie women really that oblivious to the struggles of (below) average guys?If it's so "basic" then why are men just as statistically overweight? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/23 01:27 AM |
| 2 | Are normie women really that oblivious to the struggles of (below) average guys?This is 100% true and you can tell even just by reading enough posts here. Statistically, 70% of the US is overweight with 40% being obese. Having the standards "don't be fat, don't have kids, and be/dress feminine" eliminate the majority of the dating pool. Most men are also overweight too, so it applies on both ends. But men here love to pretend the "average" woman has a fit body and puts effort into her clothing style hair etc. This is the average woman in the US: https://height-weight-chart.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/23 11:21 PM |
| 2 | Are normie women really that oblivious to the struggles of (below) average guys?The woman obviously, because many men swipe everyone right in hopes of a hookup. How many of those guys would actually commit to a relationship though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/23 11:16 PM |
| 15 | What is the MEDIAN number of likes/matches on tinder?There was HINGE data recently that the top 10% of women got 45% of the total "likes" M2F. The top 10% of men got 58% of the total "likes" F2M. The bottom 50% of both men and women got barely anything in comparison - men 4% of total likes, women 8% of total likes. Basically many are shooting out of their league and few want average/below. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 07:54 PM |
| 55 | "Be her friend first" or "Make your intentions known" - Which is it?why their male friends or coworkers don't hit on them Usually because they're not attracted to her why no guys at the gym want to talk to them Or because they don't look approachable. Honestly, I'm a woman who doesn't agree with the extremity of some of the "RP talking points," but this is one I side with men on. When women say how they "wish more guys would approach them," they're often envisioning the highly specific scenario of an attractive, charismatic guy who understands social calibration… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 06:05 PM |
| 3 | "Be her friend first" or "Make your intentions known" - Which is it?a lot of long term relationships are just built on nostalgia. This is often true, but honestly so sad. It boggles my mind sometimes that often people only give their "best" towards the beginning of the relationship, until they get be fairly sure they've "locked the other person in"... then the complacent, lackluster and boring version comes out. I understand LTRs aren't going to be "fun" 100% of the time, but it's simply sad to see how much effort people will put in to GET a relationship but not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 05:54 PM |
| 18 | “Give an ugly girl a chance, and after a while she’ll treat you like YOU are the ugly one”I'm a bi woman lol. And thanks. She's gorgeous, but a total nutjob. The 'hot crazy' matrix definitely applies to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/23 01:59 AM |
| 46 | “Give an ugly girl a chance, and after a while she’ll treat you like YOU are the ugly one”My ex girlfriend is ridiculously hot, honestly she's probably the hottest woman I'm ever going to date. ... But she was also the most insecure, and damn did it become annoying after a while. I think her being so objectively hot actually made it more annoying; She'd get hit on every place we went together, and then still call herself ugly/fat constantly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/23 01:34 AM |
| – | Hot single moms on dating apps prove that women can stay fit during marriage but they choose not toAgree 100%. I'm into working out/fitness, and it's not just "calories in, calories out." Sure, the average woman isn't going to be obese if she eats healthy... but the flat stomach men are attracted to? That's not going to be achieved without ab workouts specifically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/23 03:13 PM |
| 29 | Decided to play around w/ my FWB’s tinder…Yeah, I read a stat that 40% of dating app users are already in a relationship. Dating apps are up to 80% men, of course women are going to be pickier than IRL. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/23 03:07 PM |
| 2 | This sub focuses too much on how undateable the average man is, which is true, but have y’all honestly looked at just how undateable the average woman is…?Anecdotal, but... I have a mixed gender friend circle, and I notice the ways in which my male friends (on average) differ from my female ones. Cleanliness is a big one. My female friend's might occasionally have some clutter, but their houses are usually clean. My male friends will often have pizza boxes out, not much food in the fridge (but beer), house won't be cleanly, etc. My female friends also tend to be more social. We go out and meet more people, have a set calendar for events, do girls … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/23 09:08 PM |
| 5 | Many female users here claim that they commonly see "attractive" women dating "less attractive" men. Does makeup explain this?Can we take the "in decent shape" out of this? ... Cause honestly, I'm a bi woman and I'd actually agree with that statement. I find the majority of women who are in good shape, and know how to dress/use natural looking makeup with nice hair as attractive enough to give a chance to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/23 05:43 PM |
| 7 | Do you think a man wanting his woman to remain physically fit in a relationship is a reasonable thing to want?Hmm... I don't know if I 100% agree with this. I think the difference is, women will tolerate the weight gain in a partner and not speak up about it... but lose attraction to him, and eventually stop having as much sex with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 03:07 PM |
| 4 | Why do we use national all age averages?Overweight folks under 30 are common everywhere. Even in the cities you mentioned. You probably just overlook them or assume they're older or they don't go to the specific spots you frequent. Most of the US is overweight, even in their 20s. Yeah, there's more fit hotties in the major cities. Of course. They're common enough that you'll see more of them consistently, but that doesn't mean they're the average person walking around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 07:18 PM |
| 46 | When does dating market decline for men?Something to keep in mind - People go to dating subreddits when they're having trouble dating, so unsuccessful people are going to be overrepresented there. Statistically, it's harder for everyone on average dating as they get older. People have more potential baggage, trauma, children, mental health issues, etc. People often get more stuck in their ways, are less attractive, and there's less single people the older you get. ... But individual success can vary greatly. If you get/stay fit, get e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 04:37 PM |
| 8 | Why do parents always try to set you up with women who are not your type?Have women who were "your type" ever been interested in you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 10:53 PM |
| 8 | Why do parents always try to set you up with women who are not your type?You know the answer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 10:52 PM |
| 9 | Most men here put “pussy on a pedestal”They only think that because they define "average" as a woman who's younger, feminine, and fit/thin. 💀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 03:54 AM |
| 1 | Is the bar really “in hell”?I'm a woman, why do i need to post in automod? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 03:29 PM |
| 20 | Is the bar really “in hell”?This question is multi-layered. First, yeah, women are often guided and blinded by their feelings. They'll posture like they'll only accept a guy who is xyz, but put a confident, charming, charismatic guy with decent looks (sometimes not even that) in front of her and standards for everything else go down the toilet. Some men are simply good daters, doesn't mean they'd be good partners. But women often hold onto those early stages even when the man has gotten comfortable, so quits trying. Second… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/23 09:50 PM |
| 3 | Finding a relationship is way easier than making friends as an adult.Nah, BFF version is just to make friends. You can switch between date mode and BFF mode, and the matches will have a sign saying which type of match it is. Most of the women on Bumble BFF are straight white girls with photos of themselves and their boyfriend lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/23 09:29 PM |
| 10 | Finding a relationship is way easier than making friends as an adult.Sure, most of Reddit is from the US so the advice is mainly catered to that. And it also requires social calibration. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/23 06:09 PM |
| 50 | Finding a relationship is way easier than making friends as an adult.I used to think this way (27F) but the reality was that I wasn't putting in enough effort to make friendships. To make a friend, you have to show interest and actually be someone another person would want to be friends with. I've used Bumble BFF, I've gone to places I enjoy like karaoke bars and bowling/shuffleboard/other activities you can do for nightlife and just talked to people. The key is to make the other person feel GREAT about themselves- genuine compliments, proximity, and then grab nu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/23 05:37 PM |
| 4 | Men have so much more flexibility than women when it comes to what you can do to become more attractiveI agree that looks matter a lot more if you're a woman vs a man... and your "other traits" usually can't make up for it if you're ugly. I disagree though that women have less flexibility. Women have WAY more "flexibility" in making themselves physically attractive. If you have a relatively average face as a woman, which is most women... You can REALLY up the scale by A healthy diet and exercise (ab workouts and cardio especially) Wearing light makeup and having long hair you style Clothing that'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 04:02 AM |
| 7 | Are women harsher than men when it comes to women's appearance?Agreed. I'm also a bi woman and I notice women in the LGBT+ community being attracted to a much larger range of "types" when it comes to other women. I notice other bi/gay women not being as fixated on performative femininity, a specific thin/fit body type, youth, etc. I notice often at gay clubs, a wider range of women that other women are talking/mingling with. At regular clubs/bars, I'll often notice the majority of men hyperfocusing on the very top % of "conventionally attractive" women. Lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/23 07:57 PM |
| – | A woman’s autonomy and freedom over who she lets put their sex organ inside her sex organ trumps men’s feelings and mental well being EVERY SINGLE TIMElesbians have higher rates of IPV than heterosexual couples. Gay men have the lowest rates I'm a bi woman with a mom who is a lesbian... And yup. My theories are: 1) male violence is taken more seriously, while female violence can often be written off as just being "emotional" 2) lesbians tend to "U-haul" (get into LTRs very quickly) while gay men tend to do the exact opposite (lots of casual sex and harder to find a LTR). I think a lot of gay male LTRs tend to be healthier, because they're not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 06:30 PM |
| 55 | Sometimes I wonder “just who the hell are these women holding out for??”Men here will say that "women only want Chad"... but stay on this sub for a month and really read the posts. The underlying question is always - "Why do super HOT women have such high standards? Why can't they bone meeee? 😢" Many of the dudes here don't want average women. They keep redefining average based on social media women, and the 10% or so of hot women they see IRL that they hyperfocus on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 08:33 PM |
| 2 | We know women love hot guys. But the average guy doesn't focus on looks-maxxing. Why?Dieting isn't the answer. The answer is eating healthy. Eggs, veggies, fruits, healthy meats like chicken, salmon, shrimp, etc. This in combination with consistent exercise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 12:58 AM |
| 2 | Women need to experience a strenuous job at least once in their livesI agree with your premise, for sure. But honestly? It's foolish to not utilize the tools you have just so you can "humble" yourself. Beauty is valued, that's the reality. Men make it that way. So it makes way more sense for a 22 year old hot woman to work as a waitress or bartender where they can make tips, vs a job where they only get a fixed income. Men would do the same thing if they were born female. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 06:13 PM |
| 22 | We know women love hot guys. But the average guy doesn't focus on looks-maxxing. Why?Yeah, I think this applies to both genders. I'm a 27F and having a "yoga bod" probably wouldn't be enough motivation to consistently hit the gym like I do now. I genuinely enjoy working out - it boosts my confidence, gives me tons of endorphins, and gives me energy. The reality is, unless you're also doing it for yourself on top of for others, you're less likely to stick to it long-term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 05:57 PM |
| 1 | We know women love hot guys. But the average guy doesn't focus on looks-maxxing. Why?Eh... I'd agree with you that it's hard to be extremely obese for most if you eat a healthy diet, but most people can't stay fit/slim after 25 unless they're actively working out. Many people have sedentary lifestyles and aren't active enough to be at a "looksmax" weight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Women are not wrong in saying that the average guy is an undateable mess. The mistake they make is believing that the average woman is not.One person's "undateable mess" is another person's dream girl/guy. Sure, there's some character traits that the majority of people find unattractive... but things like being insecure and boring, or "not worth putting the effort into" are subjective. My hobbies are working out, playing guitar, and watching stand-up comedy. On the weekends, I like going to nightlife activities like bowling, arcade games, karaoke, etc. Maybe to you that's "boring," but to other people that might be exciting. And ye… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/23 06:13 PM |
| 3 | Competition anxiety- the only working solution to a dead bedroom?How many women within that timeframe did you socialize with and ask out in person (not through dating apps)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/23 04:59 PM |
| 51 | Women have a looks barrier for friends too.Most people are a 4-6 though. Most people are average, so it makes sense that you'd observe people (/women) befriending people who are "average" in general more than "extremely ugly." People who are noticeably ugly (not just average or invisible) tend to be ostracized by society in general, not just women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/23 10:45 PM |
| 154 | There are 50/50 male/female to hookup with each other but somehow there's a mass of men that are struggling but women are chilling. How does this make sense?Tons of women aren't having an active sex life either, but it's usually by choice and they're less likely to be complaining about it. They either want a relationship and can't find someone they like, or they want to stay single for the time being. They have their vibrator and friends. Many women don't enjoy casual sex, and many men do, so equal ratios in general aren't accounting for the actual % of women in the "casual sex" market. A lot of people now are anti-social, and this is more a death s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/23 03:54 PM |
| 2 | Describe the physical characteristics of your ideal partner for sex and relationships.Probably chasing Chad and then crying when he doesn't text me back | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/23 03:36 PM |
| 5 | Describe the physical characteristics of your ideal partner for sex and relationships.I'm a woman. If this was "build-a-boyfriend," I'd make him: 1) Between 5'9-6'1. I'm 5'6 and enjoy wearing heels, so I'd prefer him to still be a bit taller still. That being said, I'm NOT attracted to significant "height gaps." 6'3+ is too tall for me. 2) Symmetrical. 3) I prefer fit and slightly muscular, but not jacked. 4) Probably 6-7 inches. I don't prefer any bigger or smaller. 5) Fit. Works out at the gym. I also workout so I want a guy who's also active. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/23 03:20 PM |
| 7 | Can the difference between the female sex drive and the male sex drive be evidenced by the stark differences between gay male sexual patterns and lesbian sexual patterns?who use sex as a currency for validation Both genders do this. That's why it's still often seen as a "win" for a man to bang a woman who's not that attractive to him, and why some men still cheat even having a gorgeous woman at home who will f*ck him anytime he wants... Men often use how many women he can "get" sex from as a validation-marker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 10:20 PM |
| 3 | I’ve never experienced a woman initiating a romantic interaction in my life. How long can this continue?in their thirties Not even lol, try 40s/50s etc 😅 It might be an American thing for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 06:10 PM |
| 9 | “I see average couples everywhere” Okay, what exactly do YOU think think an “average” couple look like?I'm a bi woman, and the woman in Couple 1 I would consider hot. Not the "average" I'm thinking of in the slightest. The rest I can agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 05:15 PM |
| 11 | I’ve never experienced a woman initiating a romantic interaction in my life. How long can this continue?The cognitive dissonance is so funny 😅 Out of 10 women maybe 2 are worth a number Soooo... 80/20? Hmm, wonder where I've heard that before. Women who are equal to above (8+s) rarely to never approach Yeah, because they don't have to. Stacy is getting approached by men in nearly ALL looks ranges. Most men want her, and tons of other men don't care if they have to pursue first to get her. This idea of "stay in your lane!" by men is hilarious. Most women have had at least a few experiences of some … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 05:09 PM |
| 8 | I’ve never experienced a woman initiating a romantic interaction in my life. How long can this continue?100% this. If more women started to approach, men might enjoy the extra attention/ego-boost for a bit... but then they'd inevitably start complaining about how "attractive women never approach me 😢." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 04:55 PM |
| 37 | Dating is much more difficult for men if they aren't willing to date trashy womenAgreed lol. And not every bar/club is just twerking and getting wasted. Tons of nightlife social events still happen like stand-up comedy, music open mics, bowling/other games, karaoke, etc. It's called actually having a social life and enjoying interactions with other human-beings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/23 08:56 PM |
| 13 | The wall for women isn’t when they hit their 30’s, it’s when they hit motherhoodLmao I'm a 27 y/o woman too, and I workout 4x a week at the gym... The crazy thing is, some of those "beer chugging post wall 40+ men" go to my gym 😂 ... Instead of actually working out, they'll just stand by the wall with their headphones in and look around. Maybe they'll do a few situps before continuing to take a "break" for another half hour lol. My best friend and I joke that they're just trying to get a break from their wives, but their wives are probably wondering why tf they're going to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/23 08:51 PM |
| 8 | Unrealistic beauty standards are created and fostered by women, not men.Maybe she means "unrealistic to the majority"? Or possibly that those standards can only be achieved by "faking it" in some way - makeup, shapewear, or things that aren't healthy/natural like BBLs or extreme dieting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/23 09:16 PM |
| 7 | Sisters, I want you to explain this graph to me..Interesting. Yeah, 20 year old women are hotter on average. But there's other obvious reasons they'd get more messages: More people are single when they're younger. Men in their 20s are mainly going to message women in their 20s. Men looking for hookups (a lot of men who use dating apps) are going to message women in their 20s regardless of their own age, because the assumption is she'll be more open to casual than a woman 30+. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/23 07:00 PM |
| 9 | It's insane how the other gender refuses to recognize their privilege.Top tier men get the same amount of "likes" as average women on dating apps for instance. 80% of dating app users are male. Even if 100% of the women on them liked the top tier men, there would still be a disparity because way more men are on dating apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 02:35 PM |
| 5 | Lonely single men who get little to no sexual attention project their loneliness onto women about to hit the mythical wallthe lifestyle of single women who aren't very ugly or noticeably overweight These are massive caveats though lol, what % of 30+ single women do you really think this is? The reality is that it's HARD to stay "not overweight" past mid-20s for many people. I've always been skinny, and ate whatever I wanted, but started gaining around 25. I'm fit now, but that requires both healthy diet AND working out 3-4x a week. Sure, in major cities like LA/NYC/Miami etc there's tons of fit attractive 30+ women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 02:32 PM |
| 3 | What’s the most disheartening thing you’ve seen in your local dating marketI seriously almost never see this. FWBs where he won't be seen with her in public? Sure. But an actual full blown relationship? Nah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 07:34 PM |
| 6 | What’s the most disheartening thing you’ve seen in your local dating marketI actually love it 😉 I'm a 27F and tbh, I'd probably be painfully average (maybe slightly above) if everyone was fit. Because everyone's overweight now, it's so easy to stand out just by being fit. Especially in my now late 20s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Any suggestions or steps to take for someone who’s tried hard to date but no luck?You have to approach women you're interested in and start conversation. You can't rely on signals of interest. There's a much higher % of women who will be interested in a guy who demonstrates interest in her first, than will be interested in you without the former. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/22 11:35 PM |
| 9 | Rising women's complains today about dating do not add up to the reality of their sexual privilegeHow is it happening on dating apps when 80% of the user base is male? To make any kind of claim like that, close to 100% of women and 100% of men would have to be using dating apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/22 07:41 PM |
| 4 | Rising women's complains today about dating do not add up to the reality of their sexual privilege0 men ever said "I want my woman with a bbl, false lashes and mountains of caked on makeup" I mean, 0 women ever said "I want a man who needs to watch RP content to learn game and how to attract women" 😉 The whole bbl/false lashes/makeup thing is for women whose "natural looks" aren't getting them the outcomes they want, similar to the men whose "natural personality" aren't getting them the outcomes they want. I'll also say though - a lot of men do like women who look like that, rappers/athletes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/22 07:36 PM |
| 14 | Rising women's complains today about dating do not add up to the reality of their sexual privilegeWhich sounds happier to be alone? Oh c'mon. Men go to redpill/pickup and PUA places. Tons of women also just stay off dating apps and don't meet men out anymore. They might not publicly declare they're "WGTOW" but they're still not actively dating. Some men and some women want to be left alone. Some men and some women try 4D strategies to score a (wo)man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/22 03:08 PM |
| 2 | women are not self-aware on how badly they treat men2 thoughts on this: I think when people allow themselves to be used, they'll be used, and it's not really gender-specific. I remember in my early 20s (I just turned 27) trying to be the "cool girl™" by occasionally grabbing men a drink at the bar or something to that effect. I wanted to show genuine interest since a lot of men complain about being used for free food/drinks. Eventually they'd just start expecting me to do it, like if I got up to get myself a drink they'd say "hey get me this whil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 08:44 PM |
| 14 | It's bad for men's mental health to tell them that women like sex as much as themThis is men's problem though. A lot of average men could do fine, and get a woman who's on his level (or even above if he has charisma/social skills) if they looked for relationships. If you insist on only having casual sex, then that's what happens. Even the Chads/pookies and rays rays men talk about here who get laid consistently are consistently settling usually. You think the local drug dealer is always banging 7+s? No, he's banging 5s, 4s, 3s if it's really a dry spell... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 03:48 AM |
| 40 | It's bad for men's mental health to tell them that women like sex as much as themOf course, but many men will also have sex with women they're not as attracted to. Some will even have sex with women they're barely attracted to at all. They wish women would do the same thing they'd do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 03:31 AM |
| 2 | Men value the availability of sex, women do not. This is the most important factor in dating / relationshipsHe will be less drawn to this woman I disagree with this. I think a sweet, beautiful, feminine woman who isn't ready to sleep with a man immediately would actually be highly appealing to a lot of men. You added the part about her sleeping with other guys quicker, which yes I agree. But if the woman hasn't, it changes the scenario. Not having to invest anything to sleep with a woman is arousing to men Yes, men who want a hookup/ONS. For a man who wants a LTR, the sex itself will be arousing to hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 10:40 PM |
| 2 | I think it’s painfully obvious that most women would rather be in a relationship with men that aren’t valued for their attractiveness.It's all temporary Technically true, but a decent amount of women don't go out at all without putting on some makeup (even if natural looking) and choosing flattering outfits. So to their partner who sees them when they're sleeping/at home, sure, they see her flaws. But to most people who will view both of them when they're together, she "appears" more attractive. That was my only point :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 08:35 PM |
| 5 | I think it’s painfully obvious that most women would rather be in a relationship with men that aren’t valued for their attractiveness.Eh... I think this comes down more to statistics than anything else. Women in the 6/7 range (I'd say I probably fall into that category facially, although some might rate me higher since I'm fit in the US lol) can use tools like flattering clothing/makeup to look "better looking" than a guy in that same category. There's not as many tools for men to "up" their looks besides fitness. To be valued for your looks (to the point where you're turning heads when you walk into a room) as a man, you pret… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 06:45 PM |
| 7 | Men Now Face More Unrealistic Beauty StandardsThis comment should be higher up. The "unrealistic beauty standards" for men are specific to online mostly. Plenty of average looking men can get women if they're social and charismatic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 06:37 PM |
| 5 | People dating need to be realistic with their expectationsI feel like this is a case of potentially not knowing what's attractive to the opposite sex. Example: The men you know might be funny as hell to you, but maybe their humor doesn't resonate as well with your average woman. Or maybe the women are good looking, but lacking other qualities men in general are looking for. I'm a bi woman, and I think straight men/women aren't the best "judges of RMV" when it comes to their same gender. I've noticed they tend to be more lenient on the gender they're no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/22 04:33 PM |
| 2 | What does the "average man's" standards look like? And the "average woman's"?So for sex, she doesn't have to be biologically female? And you'll date an escort, but not a woman who's dated 11 men? 😂😂😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/22 01:21 AM |
| 6 | Women don't necessarily want the best men, they just want a guy better than themThat feeling when you get the perfect line on the first try 😍😍😍 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 06:26 PM |
| 57 | You can't complain about older men dating younger women if you're a young woman who only dates men who make $80,000 or more.The younger women wanting men who make that much, and the women complaining about men dating younger women... ... Are not usually the same women. Even in the video you linked, the majority of those women wanted to date men their age and older. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 10:37 PM |
| 6 | Female women, do you find it weird that men are unable to "turn off" their attraction towards women most of the time?💀😂😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 04:09 AM |
| 8 | Don’t expect women to care about men’s “sexual needs” when women are shamed and dehumanized for satisfying those ‘needs’ by men.treating sex like something that you reluctantly give to men rather than something you mutually enjoy Just because a woman doesn't want to be used for validation, devalued and then discarded, doesn't mean she's "reluctantly giving sex to a man." That would be like a guy complaining on here about a woman who only went on a date with him because she was bored, despite knowing she didn't like him, and me saying to him: "If you are treating dates like something you reluctantly give to women rather t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 06:21 PM |
| 3 | Q4All: "Snowball effect" with personality and attractivenessNo, lol. I'm reasonably attractive and workout and whatnot, but I'm realistic and you're more attractive than I am for sure. It's not a cruel joke. You're very attractive. Not smiling in photos are fine, but if you carry that facial expression IRL, people will assume you're uninterested in conversation. Seriously, have you tried Bumble BFF? Meetup groups? I know my city even has a FB group for new friends, something like that? I'm not even trying to undermine your struggle, I'm genuinely trying … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 11:29 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: "Snowball effect" with personality and attractivenessI don't think more attractive = better personality. But I DO think more attractive usually = more confident. It's not always a boisterous type of confidence either. It's more just the internal confidence that someone has when they know they can have standards, and eventually someone will meet them. It's not that "only" attractive people have this, I just think they're more likely to have it due to positive reinforcement. The "snowball" effect comes with the higher standards and people willing to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 11:23 PM |
| 4 | Q4All: "Snowball effect" with personality and attractivenessHave you tried to go to meetup groups, or even use online places like "Bumble BFF mode" to make friends? I'm a woman too, and I disagree that it's only "slightly" advantageous to be better looking. I used to also be awkward/shy as hell. But it's a lot easier as a woman to even make 1 female friend, go out with her and then get invited into people's social circles. You don't even have to be able to blatantly read body language. If you dress nice and look like you're having fun, people will approa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 11:11 PM |
| 7 | Q4W: Has a "cold approach" ever worked on you? If so, why / how?No, that's not what cold approach means. "Cold approach" simply means the person hasn't given you any IOIs (indicators of interest). Sure, she could be at a bar with friends to socialize... but it's still a cold approach if she's given you no indication she wants to socialize with YOU. "Warm approach" is when there's some basis of comfort/rapport built, like if you've already seen eachother multiple times at a place and said hi. Also could be if she has given you IOIs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 07:49 PM |
| 2 | Where do you recommend meeting women?Because socially awkward people and bars/clubs usually don't mix lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 07:44 PM |
| 2 | Where do you recommend meeting women?Bars and clubs that have SOMETHING ELSE to do also are the best for easy mingling. Example: One of the bars in my area also has arcade games and duckpin. There's also a popular karaoke bar in my city. Some of the bars around me have local "stand up comedy" or "music" open-mic nights. Everything else that isn't nightlife is going to be a crapshoot. Not that it can't happen, but the probability is much lower. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 07:43 PM |
| 16 | Q4W: Has a "cold approach" ever worked on you? If so, why / how?Has a "cold approach" ever worked on you? Yes. But it was at a bar/club/nighttime social event. That's where 95+% of "cold approaches" happen and are successful. If you're not approaching in nightlife environments, you're making things SIGNIFICANTLY harder for yourself. How you rated the guys physical appearance/what he did. PPD dudes always complain about women not being "honest," so here's your "honesty" IME: If you're exactly my physical type, you'd just have to say hi, make casual conversati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 07:02 PM |
| 4 | Most average men would be happy with a healthy weight, average looking women.This is silly logic. Putting effort into your looks influences how attractive you are to people. Even if those 100 men/women started off all having an " looks equivalent," things like hairstyle, fitness and clothing choices impact how others view your attractiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 05:14 PM |
| 3 | Most average men would be happy with a healthy weight, average looking women.How come according to PPD, a normal weight reasonably attractive woman is considered "average"... ... But when it comes to the average man, they use the true statistical definition? Why not use the true statistical definition for both? The average woman is 5'4 and 170lbs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 05:06 PM |
| 7 | Most average men would be happy with a healthy weight, average looking women.The problem now, especially in the US, is that what used to be considered "below-average" is now actually "average." People say that beauty standards are rising, and I 100% agree... for the top 10-15%. Meanwhile, the "average" person is more overweight and unattractive than ever before in history (again talking mostly US). If we were to consider a "5" to be a normal weight man/woman who puts in any reasonable effort to look decent... then let's be honest, most people would be rated a 1-4, then i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 05:03 PM |
| 3 | Its true, women don't make any effort in datingYour expectations are pretty high for a stranger who knows nothing about you. A woman might be having fun with her friends while out and tells them she thinks you're cute. They encourage her to say hi to you, but she's nervous. Eventually they do it for her. It's not "lack of effort" as much as people are simply just insecure/nervous when approaching people in public. Nobody likes rejection and it's easier for you to reject her via her friend. The dating apps cater to low effort people, men and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 06:34 PM |
| 7 | Personality matters. If you think it does not you don't have itWomen in general have a skewed idea as to what "average" means to them Yes, but so do men. Read enough comments here, and you'll see that when most PPD dudes talk about "the average woman," they're talking about women who are young, not overweight (usually thin/slim-thick), who dress nice and do their hair and are feminine. Well... When 7/10 people in the US are overweight, even just having the criteria "not overweight" narrows your options down to 30% of the dating pool, before anything else is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 06:33 PM |
| 6 | Why makes someone undateable?Nobody says a woman is undateable Maybe not in those exact words, but in intention? Absolutely. Tons of dudes on dating apps will try to skip dates with women they don't deem as "worth it" and only offer Netflix and chill. Or booty call the girl he knows he doesn't want to be seen in public with. Those girls are "undateable" to those men. Men here also love to talk about how if you're a woman who's 30+, a single mom, fat, masculine, etc you're not dateable either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 05:34 PM |
| 20 | Why makes someone undateable?I agree, but I'd change "hot enough" to "attractive enough" to cover more basis than just looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 05:29 PM |
| 12 | What's your unpopular dating opinion? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hell if you said it?I agree that it matters that most, but don't agree that it's not useful for a LTR. If you're physically attractive AND have good relationship qualities, your partner is much less likely to take you for granted IMO. I also truly think it makes dealing with someone's annoying quirks long-term much more manageable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 03:58 PM |
| 13 | Girls don't want a 'guy who's 6ft+' because that's some magical height, they want a guy who's 6ft+ so that they can tell their friends they're dating a guy who's 6ft+.No man has been rejected for being too tall. I'm 5'6 and stood next to a guy one time at a bar who was 6'4. It felt so odd. I don't know if I'd reject a guy who I was attracted to solely because of height, but I would rather date a 5'9-6ft guy vs one who was 6'4. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 01:19 AM |
| 24 | The women who advise men they should get to know women as "people" first before trying anything also crap on "sneaky nice guys" for having with ulterior motivesThat's 2 different scenarios though. In your situation, it seems like neither of you were initially befriending each other for sex. You had a niche hobby, after a while she grew attraction to you, she made a move and you accepted her invitation to fool around. In the "nice guy" scenario, the guy knows he's pursuing the woman because he wants sex and/or to date fron the start. So the longer he waits to express interest, the more disingenuous it becomes because he wouldn't desire a friendship with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/22 06:40 PM |
| 3 | Why do women gaslight men over the significance of online dating?The math doesn't add up because it's a load of bullcrap lol. You can go to bars/clubs IRL and see how this usually plays out. The top let's say, 15% of hottest women there (younger, thinner, feminine looking) get the vast majority of approaches, while the other women who aren't thin or conventionally attractive largely get ignored. A 5 might occasionally score with "Chad" during his dry spell, but often it's actually men IRL who are "shooting for the stars." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 11:42 PM |
| 4 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?Being attractive gets you more options to have better partners, for sure. But the caveat is, a lot of people are initially pretty insecure around highly attractive people. This will usually cause them to either try to overcompensate (put you on a pedestal/simp) or be shy/introverted initially. A lot of people now assume that if you're too attractive, you're narcissistic/mean, so you'll likely have to be super warm and kind to make people feel comfortable around you. You'll have to give people mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 06:56 PM |
| 2 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?I could easily find someone due to my looks Don't fall into this trap - no self-respecting person you'd want to be with is ever going to date someone solely for the way they look. You'll get more opportunities, 100%, but it's still your job to bring value into someone's life (obviously when it's also reciprocated) and show them why they should be in a LTR with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 06:42 PM |
| 9 | Is having mental illness or being neurodivergent the most unattractive trait a man have?Well, yeah, 2 different dating pools. Pretty sure the "fit multimillionaire in Silicon Valley" doesn't want to date a 35+ obese poly woman who has 2 kids and is ND. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/22 06:10 PM |
| 5 | Is having mental illness or being neurodivergent the most unattractive trait a man have?It sorta depends. Elliot Rodgers was actually good looking IMO. If he didn't act like a complete nutjob, he'd have no trouble attracting women. You can't get away with being "mental" unless you're also charming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/22 06:04 PM |
| 0 | Most of the time, it's a bad idea for women to ask men out first.They like the feeling of being desired, but they value a woman more if they were the one who initially pursued her first (on average). I'm not saying it never happens, just rarely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/22 03:42 PM |
| 0 | Most of the time, it's a bad idea for women to ask men out first.It's not that men don't like it. Most people like feeling like they're desired/attractive. it has always been welcomed and a nice feeling Of course, but did you end up dating any of those women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/22 03:35 PM |
| 1 | Dating apps have caused the destruction of actual, meaningful loveApproach a man and give him your number. I agree with everything you said, except this. Many men, whether they want to admit it or not, view making the actual first move as "masculine." I was out with a group of my girlfriends the other night, and 1 of my friends had men approaching her like magnets. She's attractive, sure, but it was also because she was constantly looking around and smiling. You don't have to actually make the 1st move as a woman, and you shouldn't. Your energy just needs to b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/22 05:36 PM |
| 9 | The average straight woman would be getting no girls if they magically turned into a straight man.I'm a bi woman, and learned this very early with men... esp seeing the difference between my interactions with men vs women. It's so much more flattering when a woman hits on me or wants to take me on a date... because I know they're picky as hell and usually have a more holistic view on attraction. Being hot usually isn't enough for women to want to actually date you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/22 05:24 AM |
| 23 | Are chubby girls more forgiving when it comes to a mans LOOKS?I still like them pear shaped Yeah, you and every other man lol. You say "Netflix and pizza" girls, but tons of women who do workout have that girl's body type. Some women are just naturally "thicc" and workout to keep the "pear shaped" look to them, so those women might still want guys who work out. 7/10 people are overweight, 40% are obese, and most of those obese people don't look like that photo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/22 04:33 PM |
| 3 | Are the women who get approached constantly ~in person~ (not just online) a more accurate representation of what men actually want physically?What do you mean by this? Beat his ass up...? No lol. I was wondering if there was a subconscious desire to approach the shorter woman because she'd be looking up to him, and he'd feel more "masculine" or something, if that makes sense :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 08:51 PM |
| 8 | In a perfect world, how often would you have sex?Agreed 100% about it being boring if done too frequent. The other thing I'll say, as a woman, is my libido in LTRs can truly depend on how much effort my partner is putting in vs how much they expect of me. I've had boyfriends who only went down on me for a few minutes, but then wanted/expected me to give them 20+ minute oral. Or boyfriends who didn't seem to enjoy much teasing/foreplay, and just wanted to jackhammer for 15 minutes and then cum and roll over. Also, sometimes I'm just tired and d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 04:32 PM |
| 9 | It’s not that men don’t like women to make the first move, it’s just that you got rejectedHard agree. Here's the thing. As much as many men here don't want to admit this, approaching first is seen as "masculine" behavior. Many men will initially be intrigued by an attractive woman approaching first, they'll feel curious and even flattered (since men don't get hit on much, makes sense)... but they'll subconsciously view her as "lesser" than a woman he had to pursue first. Men here will say this only happens if the woman is less attractive than the man she's pursuing. I disagree but al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/22 11:28 PM |
| 4 | Are some women simply "Chadsexual" while most are not?hung out with people who do drink and do drugs? If you're in a social scene where people are frequently doing drugs... The men who are getting laid are often the men who have the drugs. Has nothing to do with being a "Chad" or whatever. The few drug dealers at my local bar have a rotation of women (aka junkies) and none of them are super good looking. So yeah, in this regard women who are doing coke/molly on the weekends are a small % of women. And they don't represent "female nature" lol... The… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 09:10 PM |
| 12 | Why is an average woman more accepted for being single than an attractive woman for choosing to stay single?Because women receive a higher social status if they're in a relationship. To society, it means "someone chose her." People are skeptical when an attractive woman hasn't been "chosen" by anyone she wants to date. The implication is that there's something wrong with her to not make men want to commit to her, or commit to her long-term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 07:48 PM |
| 3 | People should be picky and have incredibly high standardsthe low quality people will weed themselves out. No, they won't. Low and average quality people are the majority of the population. It's similar to jobs. As much as people think they contribute nothing to society, people need McDonald's workers, plumbers, garbage men, etc. Not everyone can be a rich CEO or social media influencer, and also not everyone should be. That would cause society to collapse. I love working out at the gym. I love wearing cute clothes and doing my makeup and being conside… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 04:43 PM |
| 9 | Women's biological wants are seen as a virtue. Men's biological wants are often seen as bad in the dating worldvery few girls express they want top 10% of every trait consistently Because barely anyone talks like that. Men want fit, feminine, younger women and that narrows the pool down to like maybe 20% of women if that. Men aren't here saying "yup I only want top 20% of women" Men don't usually say, outside of boys locker room talk or subs like this: Yeah, the most important thing is Looks Big butt Tiny waist Perky breasts Long hair Agreeableness Makeup/hair done consistently (and well) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 01:53 PM |
| 16 | Who will generally have greater success in the current dating scene: A socially awkward unattractive male virgin with a white collar job or a handsome confident man who has 7 kids out of wedlock from 5 different women and has a dead-end job?Being physically attractive, tall, confident, charismatic, and funny isn't just "1 redeeming quality" lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 02:24 AM |
| 17 | Why should men still be the ones to pursue?When it comes to IRL approaches, this is how many men are starting to operate too. There's a small % of fuckboys who will shoot their shot at most women, but that % is very small. Most men IRL will only take the "risk" to approach a woman he feels is extremely appealing, and that he might not get another shot otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 02:19 AM |
| 18 | Do you actually receive tons of flirting, orbiting and puppying attempts by guys every day just by you going about with your daily routine, hence validating the frustration written by men online about women being utterly spoiled for choice?100% this. Average/below average women usually either get no attention, or very lukewarm attention from most men. It's only the conventionally hot women who are drowning in options and are constantly having men trying to get at them. I'm similar to you - was 5'6 145, average weight range, and didn't get that kind of attention until I started working out and now am 135 (but do ab training so carry it like 125). Also something else I've noticed - When it comes to actually approaching IRL, most men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 07:43 PM |
| 7 | What is your opinion on "Don't Ask a fish how to fish?"The cognitive dissonance is when they try to "lock that girl down" and also try to change her into the sweet, submissive type they claim to want... but overlook. One of my friends is a stripper and gets more relationship offers than any woman I know. She's hot, sure, but tons of other women I know are also and don't get 1/10th of the LTR offers she gets. And many of them are attractive men who have other options. They fall for her, and then desperately try to change her lifestyle. Not realizing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 03:34 AM |
| 26 | What is your opinion on "Don't Ask a fish how to fish?"I think both men/women can have cognitive dissonance in terms of what their primal brain is "turned on" by. Example, many men will say they only want a submissive "good girl" archetype, but then chase the BPD party girl types and yes, many even fall in love and try to date them despite all the red flags. But the other thing is, even women who are 100% honest about what turns THEM on can only speak for themselves. That's where the disconnect is. Many of the women here are 35+, already married, an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/22 09:58 PM |
| 2 | I believe going to the gym is overrated for attracting womenI'm a 22 year old male This is why you think this, lol. In your early 20s, it's easier to not workout and still be skinny (or at least not overweight). Not every guy who goes to the gym is trying to be super jacked. A lot of guys go to the gym simply to not become overweight. I'm a 27F, and the only reason I have a flat stomach is because I workout AND have a healthy diet. That's just the reality of hitting your late 20s+. It's not that going to the gym will DIRECTLY get you women, it usually wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/22 06:20 PM |
| 17 | Q4Bi/Pan/Trans people: as the ones caught in the middle of the gender war, I'm curious what your unique experiences are with the sexes.Bi woman here. I mostly agree with men's complaints about women being very passive in the early dating phases, and a bit entitled expecting the other person to do everything. I also do understand some of the AF/BB complaints. Even as a woman, you have to create some sexual polarity on the 1st date with a woman or she's going to "not feel the spark". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/22 08:12 PM |
| 33 | Standards for men on dating are rising because relationships are becoming a luxuryThe average man and woman makes around the same salary, 40-50k. The average man and woman are both overweight, and many are obese. Average couples are walking around everyday, with average looks and average income. The standards for the average man and woman to be in a relationship with their average looksmatch, is the same for both men/women. The women many men are hyperfocused on (younger, thin/slim-thick, feminine, dress nice, probably wear some natural makeup at least and do their hair) are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/22 08:04 PM |
| 11 | I always thought dating apps were easy for very attractive women. I was wrong.Even if you're not overestimating your friend's attractiveness, it simply doesn't matter after the 8+ range. If you're a woman who's an 8, for example, and you only match with guys who are 8+... Well, those guys are matching with any woman 5+ (especially if they're into casual). They'll happily take a 6 who immediately comes over to bang without much conversation, over your friend who expects a lot of upfront effort. The hot guys who are looking for a LTR on apps usually are picky, very very pic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 02:18 PM |
| 7 | I always thought dating apps were easy for very attractive women. I was wrong.Honest question - Are the same type of guys you matched with on your account when you had one, the same type of guys you matched with on your friend's account? If your friend is mainly aiming for hot guys, she has options but they also have options. Those guys likely already have a roster, and they're just using OLD as a supplement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 01:26 PM |
| 5 | Shows like "Love is Blind" confirm that it's men, not women, who won't commit to a LTR unless she's the more attractive one (or they're the same level).Because men keep complaining women have such higher standards, but only want to date women hotter than them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/22 12:50 AM |
| 2 | Shows like "Love is Blind" confirm that it's men, not women, who won't commit to a LTR unless she's the more attractive one (or they're the same level).SK doesn't seem model-tier to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/22 12:49 AM |
| 0 | Shows like "Love is Blind" confirm that it's men, not women, who won't commit to a LTR unless she's the more attractive one (or they're the same level).Agreed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/22 12:49 AM |
| 3 | Shows like "Love is Blind" confirm that it's men, not women, who won't commit to a LTR unless she's the more attractive one (or they're the same level).Agreed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/22 12:48 AM |
| 4 | Most women on OLD are low quality.5'6 145 is still average weight according to BMI scale. 7/10 Americans are overweight. You're basically saying "if you make yourself thin, aka above average as a woman, then you'll get male attention." Yes, that's exactly my point. Men don't want the statistical "average" woman - they want above average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 02:08 PM |
| 9 | Most women on OLD are low quality.Agreed. The dating landscape has changed. Even in a lot of bars/clubs/social events, you're not going to get approached as a woman unless you're in the top 10-20% of hottest women there. I used to be 5'6 145lbs. Wasn't fat but mostly average body. Still wore cute clothing and presented well. I only started getting approached once I got super into fitness and am now 135, but do ab training so I "carry it" like 125 or so. Also got more into makeup. Less men approach IRL now and the ones who do mai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 06:48 PM |
| 3 | Do older women resent younger women ?Define "young." I think 25-32 is honestly the sweet spot to find a healthy LTR for most people... and stats track that out to be mostly accurate. Marrying before 25 significantly increases your chances of divorce. Though I will agree with many RP guys that after 35, many people become inflexible. As for the beautiful younger women 18-24, yes they get the most sexual attention but you also have to consider the fact that: Most women want to date in their age cohort, and many attractive younger guy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 05:08 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Women should never have casual sexA FWB is usually a dynamic in which one person (usually the woman) has feelings and wishes she could date the guy, but the other person doesn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 01:31 PM |
| 15 | Men love to complain about women looking fake but consistently go for the fakest looking womenYeah, but that's about as far as it goes for most of them. Most women looking for a quality boyfriend/husband aren't going to be attracted to the guy walking into a room dressed head-to-toe in chains/Gucci like Lil Baby. But that guy will definitely attract gold-diggers. Women/men who overexaggerate their physical appearance to that level are peacocking - they're trying to stand out and signal attention, so that's exactly what they get. That doesn't mean the attention leads to anything meaningfu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 03:16 AM |
| 29 | Q4W: Do you think most men are ugly? Do you think most women are attractive?I agree 100%. I admit as a 27F, I'm considered way more "conventionally attractive" than I would be considered if I had my same looks as a guy... cause things like long hair, makeup, and clothing significantly impact attraction towards women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 07:37 PM |
| 5 | Online dating for women is just f*cking ridiculousPookie and Ray Rays are the drug dealers at local bars lol. They don't need to be on dating apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/22 06:07 PM |
| 6 | Online dating for women is just f*cking ridiculousIt's 70% over 20. You probably live in a major metro where people are more attractive than average, or in a college town with the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/22 04:22 PM |
| 14 | Online dating for women is just f*cking ridiculousYup, 70% over 20. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/22 04:20 PM |
| 11 | Online dating for women is just f*cking ridiculousThere was way less people on dating apps when you were 18-23 though. You're right that the done-up women with makeup who dress feminine are going to get most of the likes, but now that 80% of men are the apps userbase, tons of average looking plain-jane women get 1000s of "likes" too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/22 03:03 PM |
| 19 | Online dating for women is just f*cking ridiculousif she's thin and somewhat attractive So less than 30% of women? Lol Are we forgetting that 70%+ of the US (both men and women) are overweight and 40% of that is obese? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/22 03:00 PM |
| 20 | Do most men consider 30 year old women to be too old?because games work ... on people with attachment issues, and people who are addicted to novelty/"the chase." The people this works on aren't chasing you, they're chasing the validation and ego-boost of being "chosen." And once you stop playing the games (and you have to if you want a LTR), they'll leave because "the chase" is over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 10:49 PM |
| 7 | CMV: The dating/relationship market is not a woman’s market, it is actually 50/50znone of these have finding dates as the priority behind them. Women need plausible deniability to not feel "desperate" going to a place to meet men. And they don't want a bunch of men assuming because they're looking for a date that they're easy. Men want a place they can play the numbers game for quick and easy access to potential sex, and women want a place where men have to build an actual connection and interact with her as a person first, before asking her out. At the end of the day, our mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/22 05:39 PM |
| 15 | CMV: The dating/relationship market is not a woman’s market, it is actually 50/50zA woman who's a 5 can easily get commitment from a man who's a 5. It's only when you get into the 8+ category (and this can be relative to location - a Midwest "8" can look different than an LA "8") that men tend to have the advantage. This is because if you have 100 men and women, the top 20 women are going to want to date the top 20 men... but many of those men would rather "sow their wild oats" and are also cool casually banging 5-7s who also want to date them. I disagree that a male 10 would… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/22 02:56 PM |
| 5 | Who has more pressure? Do women have more pressure to be beautiful or do men have more pressure to be successful and why?I completely believe that you find those women attractive. I don't think most men here do though, that was my only point. A lot of men say they want average, but their perception of average has been skewed by social media and the fact they don't see the women I posted above as "women" since they don't fit beauty standards. Women do this too, yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 05:44 PM |
| 14 | Who has more pressure? Do women have more pressure to be beautiful or do men have more pressure to be successful and why?Since men are attracted to 60+% of women Press x to doubt lol If you stay here and read the comments long enough to see the type of women men here actually desire, it's not just an "average" woman. Men here (on average) want a woman who's younger, feminine, fit, with at least an average face. This is an "average" woman in the US: https://height-weight-chart.com/504-170.html Let's be real here, you might bang these women during a dry spell but they're not most men's first choice for a girlfriend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 05:29 PM |
| 23 | Who has more pressure? Do women have more pressure to be beautiful or do men have more pressure to be successful and why?Seriously. Sometimes I wonder if a lot of these men here live in cities like LA/Miami, where the standard of beauty is significantly higher than most of the US... or if they just spend all their time online so only see 7+ women. I live in the Midwest, and most people walking around here are Plain Janes/Jimmy's and tons of them are in LTRs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 05:21 PM |
| 6 | Who has more pressure? Do women have more pressure to be beautiful or do men have more pressure to be successful and why?Men have to max out to get any women at all How do you explain all the short, bald, overweight, broke dudes with girlfriends then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 05:16 PM |
| 52 | What redpill “truth” do you think gives men the most rage?A lot of times, it wasn't just a sudden change of heart like many men believe. Women can let a lot of resentment build up in a relationship, either not communicate or DO communicate but the guy isn't really taking her concerns seriously or seeing it as "that big of a deal"... then when problems on top of problems start stacking up, it can "seem" like one day the woman just decides she's no longer interested for no reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/22 07:08 PM |
| 2 | Can we talk about Responsive vs Spontaneous sexual desires, and how it affects long term relationships, and casual sex?even if they stayed with "Chad" for the long-term, their responsive sexual desire would begin to show once the NRE wore off. I disagree with this. If "Chad" stays a "Chad" she'll remain sexually attracted IMO. Because if a woman is dating/married to a hot man, other women usually notice that man. If you know as a woman that you're with a man a ton of women wish they could be with, the odds are higher you're going to put in more effort to keep him around. Works both ways too with a super hot woma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/22 04:53 PM |
| 3 | The idea that women will hit the wall and will suddenly need men and give lower SMV guys a chance seems like a bluepill fantasy to meI feel like you're missing the actual point I was making in my OC. I wasn't saying that men overall prefer younger/better looking women because they're agreeable/insecure. I said younger/better looking women who also are agreeable/insecure are going to be viewed as "easy targets" by men who want to manipulate them. Yes, a younger woman is going to get approached more, and have more opportunities to engage with predatory men if she's too polite/agreeable. If you look vulnerable, yes, you'll still… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 05:09 PM |
| 5 | The idea that women will hit the wall and will suddenly need men and give lower SMV guys a chance seems like a bluepill fantasy to meI'm sitting here smiling as I type this. I'm not angry in the slightest lol. And you think this entitles you to more attention than her? When did I say that? Lol. I was simply giving context to my experience. That's terrible, but really irrelevant to the topic. No, it's very relevant because younger women are often less experienced, less privy to signs of manipulation, and more likely to assume good intentions from strangers. This is all on average, of course. Yes, if you look vulnerable, you'll… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 04:10 PM |
| 8 | The idea that women will hit the wall and will suddenly need men and give lower SMV guys a chance seems like a bluepill fantasy to meYou don't need to "break" any hard truth to me lol; I agree younger people are more attractive on average. How the hell are you so confident about what is going on in a man's head? Because it becomes obvious once it happens enough to you. I'm a 27F and my girlfriend is a 22F. We're both fit and feminine. You would guess we were friends when we go out together, and not a couple. Guys hit on both of us often. The difference in the way guys will approach her vs me, is night and day. She's 5'1 and e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 03:54 PM |
| 9 | The idea that women will hit the wall and will suddenly need men and give lower SMV guys a chance seems like a bluepill fantasy to meEveryone fat now I love this fact though as a 27F. It's so much easier to stand out now just by staying fit and wearing flattering clothing. 😛 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 02:33 PM |
| 15 | The idea that women will hit the wall and will suddenly need men and give lower SMV guys a chance seems like a bluepill fantasy to meCannot be said about younger men dating older, they only do if they have no other options. Priyanka Chopra and Nick Jonas. Lisa Bonet and Jason Momoa. Shakira and Gerard Pique. Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher. Olivia Wilde and Harry Styles. Kim K and Pete. Britney Spears and Sam Asghari. None of these guys could've dated younger women? Come on. In before PPD dudes go: those are just eXcEpTiOns!! ... Yeah, so is Leo. Most 21 year olds are never going to date 35+ men, and most PPD dudes will never b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 01:44 PM |
| 17 | The idea that women will hit the wall and will suddenly need men and give lower SMV guys a chance seems like a bluepill fantasy to meromantic sweetness men have for younger women I feel like this might've been more true in the past when men were conditioned to be "chivalrous" towards women, but in modern dating I don't think a large % of men treat younger women romantic or sweet. Younger women who are more agreeable and less confident often get looked at like an "easy target" from men who want to manipulate them. Sure they get more attention, but much of it is fleeting and superficial. And most of it isn't from men who actual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 01:06 PM |
| 12 | Virgins women aren't anywhere near as rare as people on here think - those who say otherwise always misrepresent the statistics.some lesbian women would consider themselves virgins even if they are highly experienced with female partners No lesbian thinks this, whattt lmaooo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 02:48 PM |
| 13 | Women hypocritically use shaming tactics to try and dictate what preferences men are "allowed" to have, while advocating for women being able to have whatever preferences they wantDo you see beautiful young women complaining about what men want? Absolutely. Have you looked at Tiktok recently? Tons of attractive 20-something women complain about not being able to find a committed relationship with a guy they're into, because a lot of attractive guys in their 20s would rather hookup than date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/22 03:25 PM |
| 63 | Women have a hypocritical bias against homosexual male behaviorThey're not being hypocritical, because it starts with the men. Men (on average) love watching two women together, and MFF threesomes is one of the most common male "bucket list" fantasies. Straight women mainly do this to get attention from men because they like it. If most men were repulsed by it, they'd stop doing it. Straight men also enjoy homosexual female behavior, but not male homosexual behavior. It has a lot to do with society viewing FF (especially if it's 2 feminine women) relationsh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/22 11:03 PM |
| 3 | Attention to women has the same appeal as sex does to menMost women can go longer without sex than without attention Most avenues to getting sex involve getting attention first?? If you're a woman who wants sex and you're not interested in anyone you know, you usually have to signal you're available via social media, dating apps, or dressing up and going out. I'm gonna let you in on a little secret - many women doing these things are doing them to find a guy to fuck/date. The extra attention from people she isn't interested in is either annoying to he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/22 10:46 PM |
| 4 | Is it considered a female privilege that almost all women have access to live out all of their fetishes/sexual fantasies in real time with only the slightest of efforts?I see where you're going with this, but that's still a casual relationship. When guys say they want casual, they still want the "fun" parts of the relationship usually - the sex, kissing, cuddling, ego-stroking, companionship and quasi-intimacy. What those guys often don't want is the "other" stuff - marriage, girlfriend gaining weight, loss of sex drive, having children that take priority, no longer being free-spirited/adventurous, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/22 03:21 PM |
| 8 | Is the thought of a three-way with two men an appealing fantasy?I think more women would be into MFM if it was 2 men actively pleasing her - 1 eating her out, the other kissing her/playing with her tits etc. But many women don't even have the experience of orgasming consistently from 1 man, so all MFM sounds like to those women is more work. That's primarily why I'm not super into MFF either, even as a bi woman. Guys always expect to be the focal point of it and having 2 girls performing for him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 08:54 PM |
| 1 | Prettier, dumb women will always triumph over an average to less attractive intelligent women.I literally responded to OP's exact phrasing lol. And it's ironic you criticize talking in extremes, then do the same in your 2nd paragraph. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 04:18 PM |
| 9 | Prettier, dumb women will always triumph over an average to less attractive intelligent women.Yup. I also noticed this: challenged by an intelligent partner questioning their every view/move Who does want this type of relationship, honestly? I'm a bi woman, and in the past I've been used to having relationships with men/women who did the above. Now I'm dating my current girlfriend, and she's so supportive and peaceful. She doesn't make me feel awful for having a different opinion than her, or for making a mistake (within reason obviously). It's like "hey, I could have this more attractiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 02:56 PM |
| 6 | Ultimately, only the top 5% of men have power dating wise. The top 30-40% of women have power dating wise.PPD dudes always tell on themselves in these posts lol "I'm so sadddd 😢 that the hottest women 🤤😜 won't have sex with average men 😔😩🤡" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 04:28 PM |
| 12 | There is no evidence to support that 80% of women are sleeping with 20% of men. There never wasMusic open mics, comedy shows, karaoke, yoga, gym groups... Tons of places have younger people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 05:44 PM |
| 21 | There is no evidence to support that 80% of women are sleeping with 20% of men. There never wasMostly through social circles or hobby groups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 04:43 PM |
| 28 | There is no evidence to support that 80% of women are sleeping with 20% of men. There never wasA lot women HAVE used dating apps, then they get harassed or assaulted on a date and delete them. Women prefer to meet men who are all already vetted as "safe," and want relationships over casual sex, so it's not a surprise that meat market places like apps, bars/clubs, etc have uneven ratios. Also let's be honest, the women most men want to date or take seriously (hot, fit, young, etc) don't have to put themselves out there that much to find suitors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 04:37 PM |
| 22 | The average guy should not be frustrated at the selective nature of average Woman as he would act no differently if the tables where turned.I wouldn't say your examples prove that women "aren't picky." They're just picky about different criteria. If a guy is "living life on his own terms" but is introverted, passive, and neurodivergent he's not going to be drowning in any female attention. The women who date drug dealers/criminals might not have high standards for morality, but they definitely have high standards for how "fun" a guy has to be to be attracted to him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 07:20 PM |
| 7 | Would you rather get the amount of attention women get, or amount of attention the average men get?Can you post a picture of what you consider an "ugly girl"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 04:23 PM |
| 11 | The average guy should not be frustrated at the selective nature of average Woman as he would act no differently if the tables where turned.Women being able to have sex with men out of their league smacks of inequality Any man with $300 or so can also have sex with a woman "out of his league" easily. But when I tell men that, they say, "It's not the same as having a woman have sex with you because she genuinely desires you." But the "Chads" having sex with average women aren't really desiring them either. Those women are getting used like a cum dumpster, and then ghosted or only hit up after 12. Stats show women don't cum often from… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 04:16 PM |
| 65 | Older men hitting on younger women is not harassment, nor immoral, nor illegalwomen often like them back Most 22 year old women are not into men 35+ lmao. This absolute delusion needs to stop. 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 04:05 PM |
| 5 | If you get an abundance of OLD matches but can never seem to find what you are looking for; what do you think the problem is?27F, currently in a relationship but got tons of likes/matches via the apps: My biggest hurdles: I live in the Midwest, and a lot of people here are overweight. I workout and am fit, so I wasn't attracted to the majority of men/women (I'm bi) who liked me. Men often don't take good photos, so it's hard to discern whether I'm unattracted or it's just a bad photo. Women sometimes take too good of photos, and I'm not attracted to them IRL. Many bi women, like 1/3rd at least, on the apps have a boyf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 04:02 PM |
| 24 | Is simping really that big of a problem?It depends on what you define as "simping." I agree with you that PPD dudes on here are very hostile towards sex workers. The reality is, none of these dudes had a problem with magazines you pay for like Playboy, or paid porn subscriptions online before you had Pornhub. It's only now that women are making $ from selling their nudes, vs men making $ from selling women's nudes, that it's suddenly a "huge issue" that "affects the dating market." Sex has always sold. In terms of things like complime… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 03:35 PM |
| 3 | Watch what they say not what they do, women of ppd what things do men say they want/ care about that they don't actually follow through onYes. Her issue wasn't coming off "uninterested." She actually comes off interested even in people she's not interested in, because of her kindness/agreeableness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 01:48 AM |
| 25 | Watch what they say not what they do, women of ppd what things do men say they want/ care about that they don't actually follow through onI'm a bi F who's currently in a relationship with a woman. Whatever I am on the scale of "conventional attractiveness," she's 1-2 points above me. I'm pretty attractive and fit, but she's a smoke show and that's just the objective fact. Everywhere we go, she gets hit on. Everywhere. When talking about our relationship past with men, it came up that most guys she meets would initially be super interested then flake/ghost. My experience has been pretty opposite - I've dated many guys who were awes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/22 10:20 PM |
| 15 | Watch what they say not what they do, women of ppd what things do men say they want/ care about that they don't actually follow through onOh yeah this is a good one. It's the male version of "women only like assholes." I think a lot of men genuinely love the rollercoaster ride of a crazy woman who's obsessed with him. They say they want a sweet woman who's agreeable and stays out of the drama, but then they meet that girl and get bored of her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/22 09:42 PM |
| 6 | Watch what they say not what they do, women of ppd what things do men say they want/ care about that they don't actually follow through onEh... I don't think men "love" paying for sex. I just think they'd rather pay for something they want vs getting something they don't want "for free." Some dudes are just ugly and the only women they're attracted to are out of their league, so $ evens the score a bit. Not my place to judge - better to do it honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/22 08:11 PM |
| 3 | Most women find very few men attractiveit's often relative to her looks What's wrong with this? It's totally fair for a fitness model who looks like Megan Foxx to want to date a hot fitness guy, not Joe Average Smo who can't do a pushup. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 01:41 PM |
| 29 | What do you believe are the underlying reasons behind the issues men face when dating? How can they be addressed by society as a whole?I don't agree that most women "dream" of being a boss bitch. It's more that women have seen the result of being financially dependent on men (from their parents/grandparents) and how it shifts the power dynamic in favor of the man. To the extent where in the past, women had to endure cheating, physical abuse, lying, emotional neglect, substance abuse etc just to survive because they couldn't leave. Some women want to be a boss bitch, but I think a lot more women simply want the same things men d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 05:54 PM |
| 22 | CMV: Men are no longer the "prize" by default due to the rapidly changing landscape of womens' rights and equal pay, and they're now having to be equal partners and hate they it.Well, the obesity rate between men and women is about the same. I haven't seen any shortage of men who are in-shape and attractive. There's tons of active meetup groups, sports clubs, the gym, etc you and your friends could join to potentially meet them. The disparity you're probably seeing is 2 things: Men don't care as much about dating a woman "on their level" financially, so an attractive successful man is going to have more options than women in his same position. Women have more tools to "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/22 04:28 PM |
| 91 | CMV: Men are no longer the "prize" by default due to the rapidly changing landscape of womens' rights and equal pay, and they're now having to be equal partners and hate they it.Honest question OP: Have you ever dated a woman, or dated women with any sort of regularity? I only ask because as a bi F (27), I can confidently say that dating women is no walk in the park. It can be, in many ways, just as difficult if not more than dating men. Someone can be a great friend, great employee, great mother, but be a terrible girlfriend/wife. The qualities that make someone good at one of those areas don't always make them good at another. The biggest hurdle I've faced with dating… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/22 04:09 PM |
| 19 | Women are dishonest about what they are attracted to in menMy guess? A lot of guys on this sub wear a mask of stoicism, and haven't learned how to show vulnerability and emotional openness without expecting their partner to be their full-time therapist. There's a difference between opening up about your past, your fears, etc, in a way that creates bonding/relation, vs doing it with the expectation your partner needs to take on all your emotional baggage. A lot of men here are neurodivergent and/or depressed, so they haven't learned how to express and co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/22 03:54 PM |
| 5 | Women are dishonest about what they are attracted to in men80 percent being filed by the wife this is overwhelming evidence More info is needed on this stat, tbh. How do we know it wasn't just the woman who happened to physically file the paper, and that the actual divorce itself wasn't initiated by the man or a mutual decision? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/22 03:47 PM |
| 25 | I want to understand why guys complain about women yet gay guys don’t complain about each other?See "lesbian sheep effect"... Basically even gay/bi women still expect to be pursued, and when there's 2 women they both just sit there and do nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/22 05:29 PM |
| 15 | PPD has become the gender wars arena, especially when it comes to the sexual history of women.Women usually date men from their social circles or who they meet due to some proximity. Most people are average, and that's who most women are dating. The only places this is less true is online dating, which we all know isn't the best place to make long-lasting connections. And most women aren't on apps anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 09:01 PM |
| 20 | PPD has become the gender wars arena, especially when it comes to the sexual history of women.There's kernels of truth in here, but like I said it's completely overblown. Like, sure, it's true that men generally prefer dating their age or younger and women prefer generally their age or older... But guys here will then exaggerate that to the point where they're eventually saying women over 25 are "post wall", no attractive man would ever choose them first, etc. Then I have these convos with guys I know IRL, and they look at me like I've just taken the 1st train to crazy town. One of my gu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 08:08 PM |
| 18 | PPD has become the gender wars arena, especially when it comes to the sexual history of women.Try talking to women in real life and stop hyperfocusing on the small % of "internet women" who are posting on tiktok/IG for likes, clout, and $$$ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 06:21 PM |
| 35 | PPD has become the gender wars arena, especially when it comes to the sexual history of women.Here's the thing. Dating will always be supply:demand. If there's a woman who's conventionally attractive, feminine, fit, kind, doesn't have kids and is responsible about her sexual health... that woman is usually going to have no trouble finding LTRs. All this mumbo jumbo talk here really holds no value, because for every 5 PPD dudes saying they would never date her, there's 50 who would. This sub has good points sometimes, but stay too long and you'll begin to think everyone is a carbon copy o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 06:06 PM |
| 15 | For marriage, it's logical for men to marry the youngest attractive woman they can pull.Agreed. It's also about lifestyle choices. The 22 year old might look better than the 32 year old right now just because of youth, but what about diet? Fitness regimen? Self care? If you're looking for a LTR, you're better off choosing a woman who's slightly less attractive (but consistently puts in the effort) vs a woman who's lazy and just happens to be hot right now because she's 22. I've seen this constantly with people I went to HS with. They got into a LTR and stopped trying/gained a bunch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/22 04:04 PM |
| 11 | EVEN if you could FORCE monogamy and "redistribute" love and relationships, you can't force a woman to genuinely love you and you FEEL the differenceThere's nuasance to this conversation though. Modern dating culture is not often producing good outcomes. The issue is, a lot of healthy relationships form as a result of proximity/shared experiences, and it's harder to find spaces to make those 2 things happen between people... especially 25+. Not everyone can be in the top 10-20% in looks, charisma, status, money, etc... to where they'll get enough opportunity to be able to find that genuine love-match. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 02:52 PM |
| 17 | A Pew Research Center study shows that 62% of single women in the U.S. are not open to casual dating or a committed relationship, compared to 39% of single menI've heard in the 40+ category for dating, women will say a lot of men are just looking for "a nurse with a purse"... so that might explain it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 03:23 PM |
| 12 | How are women finding dates in 2022?I'm so sorry. That's why I often roll my eyes at men complaining that "women have it so much easier on apps"... because while it might initially be true (for a 1st date), women frequently deal with the same issue as you. Men will see the apps as "competitive" and they'll view their matches as an ego-boost, so many will right-swipe everyone (or a large majority) then filter out later... And sometimes, "the filtering" comes months after leading a woman on or even committing to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 03:06 PM |
| 7 | How are women finding dates in 2022?he eventually left me over my looks Just curious, did your looks change throughout the time he knew you... or was it a case of him swiping you right as a "why not?" thing, then later realizing the attraction wasn't fully there? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 02:55 PM |
| 62 | Women need to stop justifying their life choices and have funWith all due respect OP, if your post history is accurate... you're a 22 year old conventionally attractive woman. Are all these things likely applicable to you? Absolutely. You fit society's beauty standards enough to the point where you absolutely can find men who will pay for you, wine/dine you, accept your past, wait until commitment for sex etc... because you have something they value which is your looks. Ask women who aren't white, conventionally hot, thin, young, symmetrical in the face, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/22 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Social proof seems much more important to women than innate/natural attractionMen also care about status and how women will affect their status around other men. Why else would they bang a woman they would never bring around their friends or in public, yet if they ever get a Stacy they parade her around like a trophy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/22 03:20 PM |
| 34 | What are your thoughts on the idea of "if he wanted to, he would"?Before you two bang? Not neccesarily true. After you two are already banging? Yes, usually true. If he's screwing you and not initiating dates, texting you at normal hours, and trying to progress the relationship, it's because he's not interested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 09:12 PM |
| 10 | Women tell men to stick to their league, but women are attracted to the type of men - those out of their leagueThis is a bad guage. Men can often get much higher quality women if they're the ones approaching/pursuing, vs waiting to be approached and thinking that's your "league." The only time I've really seen women "shooting their shot" first is either if the guy is really her type in an environment like a bar/club, or if they've already built some rapport/proximity to eachother and she thinks there's a low chance of rejection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 06:01 PM |
| 20 | Women tell men to stick to their league, but women are attracted to the type of men - those out of their leagueIt's almost as if looks aren't the only thing that people consider when making a long-term commitment to someone ¯_(ツ)_/¯ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 05:54 PM |
| 4 | Do men appreciate male beauty/attractiveness more than women?straight women found other women more sexually arousing That's because women have sexier clothing, makeup, more versatile hairstyles, wedges/heels, etc. It's like comparing a blank canvas to one that you painted and decorated from top to bottom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 05:33 PM |
| 31 | Men can’t complain that women find them ugly when women spend so much time and money trying to appeal to menMakeup becomes a disadvantage after too many women wear it. When men say they "prefer women without makeup" usually what they actually mean is they prefer natural looking makeup, that enhances your features/hides your imperfections but blends in... so you can't tell it's makeup. When too many women wear it, it becomes the standard. You look "tired" or "not trying hard enough" when you're a woman who doesn't wear it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 10:07 PM |
| 6 | What are some major changes in the mainstream perception about dating that you think happened in the last 20 years?My stance is, even if you want a casual sex situation with someone... you can still care about their pleasure and well-being. Not everyone has to be your "forever person" but you can still have feelings of care and respect for them. I've had a few FWBs where we were actually friends. We went out, got food together, watched movies, had sex, and left the experience both generally feeling good. Doesn't seem like a lot of men can wrap their head around respecting a woman in a casual sex situation, e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 08:20 PM |
| 7 | What are some major changes in the mainstream perception about dating that you think happened in the last 20 years?I love this comment. I'm a 27F, and I really used to think men's sexual attraction was deeper, and more complex, than it actually is. Not speaking for all men, obviously, but realizing the extent of it for a lot of men is just about novelty, ego, and how big a woman's tits/ass are was somewhat disappointing. I thought more men cared about, and valued, interpersonal connection, exploration, pleasing their partner, experimentation and intimacy, on top of physical attraction... but I was wrong. I'v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 06:19 PM |
| 28 | What are some major changes in the mainstream perception about dating that you think happened in the last 20 years?Belle Delphine is in the top 0.00000001% of sex workers, in terms of income. The majority of OF creators make less than $200/month. This idea that these extreme outlier examples of women making millions of dollars off men affects the average person's "dating pool" in any way is ridiculous. It's just that these attractive women, who know how to market, use lighting/angles, and put themselves out there online are the main women RP men pay attention to. The founder of Onlyfans is a man. The creator… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 06:08 PM |
| 5 | Most average males should not bother with most women unless they are really willing to lower their standards.Eh, not really. If you saw the "rating PPD users" thread, some of the women here are hot af. 😋 I'm not saying it's everyone, of course most people here are probably average/below, but it's definitely not everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 03:18 PM |
| 14 | 80/20 is common sense and it appears the mainstream is getting it...the really attractive girls So you admit you're mainly hyperfixating on the attractive ones (fit, feminine, young) and not the actual average woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 11:07 PM |
| 14 | 80/20 is common sense and it appears the mainstream is getting it...Most people will end up being in a LTR. They'll settle, or raise their qualifications. It's just the way it is. You can't make people be attracted to each other or want to date/mate. My argument was never that "everything is always fair!!!" but that 80/20 isn't valid. The average person needs to lose some weight, learn to socialize, and put themselves out there more. People will whine/boast about their "high standards" online, then date someone who isn't half of those things when there's chemist… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 09:40 PM |
| 7 | 80/20 is common sense and it appears the mainstream is getting it...Tons of reasons. Just got out of a relationship, not over an ex, not interested in dating right now, talking to someone else, you said something off-putting, you came on too strong, etc... Or, it could just be that the conversation didn't inspire any high level of interpersonal connection or desire to know more, on her end. This is largely contextual too - meeting through a hobby group will likely work better than a 1 off conversation at a bar. In general though, expecting the same results alway… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 09:32 PM |
| 15 | 80/20 is common sense and it appears the mainstream is getting it...A minority of women do this, usually when drunk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 09:27 PM |
| 4 | 80/20 is common sense and it appears the mainstream is getting it...Tell that to all the average men I see out and about who are in relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 09:19 PM |
| 3 | 80/20 is common sense and it appears the mainstream is getting it...Online dating is popular now, no doubt about it. But 40% isn't even the majority. How about the other 60% of couples meeting not through dating apps? Also, if 80/20 is so true, how are 40% of couples meeting on apps? Those women are partnering up with more men than just 20%. Sure, there might be a subset of women who won't date men who aren't their educational "equal." Let them hold out, or die alone. Women still make less than men on average, and many don't go to college. Life isn't fair, you'r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 09:12 PM |
| 42 | 80/20 is common sense and it appears the mainstream is getting it...80/20 is a DATING APP issue. It doesn't hold true in person. At bars, clubs, social events, sports teams, concerts, meetup/hobby groups etc, you can OBSERVE men who are average with girlfriends or dating. It's not just the "Chads" or best looking men. Women are attracted to 1) confidence and 2) men who pursue them. Yes, looks matter too but not nearly as much IRL as they do online. Women's attraction to men is more like a dimmer, not a light-switch and behavioral traits in men can increase/decre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 08:55 PM |
| 7 | Why do modern studies show that men have more sexual partners than women.Men want casual sex and random sex more than women. Women want sex where they actually orgasm. Most women only orgasm from clitoral stimulation/oral, something many men do NOT do during casual sex. And many men who try aren't good at it. Men still usually orgasm during casual sex even if the woman is a pillow princess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 05:07 PM |
| 2 | How To Deal With Rejection Sensitivity When It Comes To Dating?while most people would agree on who is and isn't attractive There's been studies that show men are much more "in agreement" on who they think is attractive than women are. So I don't think this statement holds true. I've also BEEN rejected by people, and they chose someone else who would be considered "objectively less" pretty/stable/whatever etc. People have different mental calculuses for who they decide to pursue, that doesn't always mean you're not valuable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 01:58 PM |
| 8 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?Welcome to PPD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 10:11 PM |
| 8 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?You don't know that. Tons of well-meaning people simply haven't worked on their social skills enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:55 PM |
| 14 | CMV: A woman’s ideal in a man should be a -1/2 SMV and a +1/2 RMV.One woman's "Billy Beta" is another woman's "Chad." You just gotta play the numbers, and get in where you fit in. And stop only using dating apps to meet women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:13 PM |
| 60 | Bluepillers, you have a friend, he is 21, and he wants to get laid. He wants to have lots of sex with different and hot women. What advice do you give him?I would tell him to Watch a bunch of videos like "Charisma on Command" on YouTube to learn the art of seduction, witty banter, and being charming. Start working out at the gym. This will not help him get girls directly, but it will increase energy and confidence which does help. Build a larger social circle. Try different types of clubs/bars/social events and get to know a lot of people there. Approach women and start casual conversation. Use the witty banter you've learned from step 1 and don't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 04:05 PM |
| 39 | CMV: A woman’s ideal in a man should be a -1/2 SMV and a +1/2 RMV.The issue with SMV especially in regards to men, is that towards the middle it becomes more subjective. Like, I can obviously tell which men look like models and also which men are very, very ugly... but my female friends and I will frequently disagree over attractiveness in men (who meet a certain threshold). Women should go for who they're genuinely attracted to. They should also meet more men in social environments (and not just online), given that often women's attraction towards men is more… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 01:57 PM |
| 80 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellI keep saying this: this is because behavioral traits factor more into attraction for women with men than the reverse. Once you meet the "neutral" looks threshold to a lot of women, it's more about your personality and how charismatic/charming/confident you are. Men will call this "settling" because they can't comprehend attraction that works more like a dimmer vs a light-switch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 04:18 PM |
| 11 | what do men get wrong about women have so many optionn and can sleep with a lot of different men?It's not so much about always "being emotional" as it is feeling comfortable. ONS comes with the added risk of danger, since the person would be a stranger. Women might have similar sex drives to men, but women's interest in random sex with strangers is significantly less than men's. Getting to know someone before fucking them isn't always about women needing every person they fuck to be in a LTR auth them. It's more about sussing people out so there's less fear of assault/getting killed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/22 10:53 PM |
| 12 | what do men get wrong about women have so many optionn and can sleep with a lot of different men?I lost it "Andrew Tate posters" 🤣🤣🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/22 05:07 PM |
| 7 | what do men get wrong about women have so many optionn and can sleep with a lot of different men?What are even talking about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/22 04:47 PM |
| 23 | what do men get wrong about women have so many optionn and can sleep with a lot of different men?Esp if a woman is just looking for ONS/pleasure Women are largely not wired this way. Seriously. Outside of drunk hookups or rebounds to get over an ex, women are not interested (on any mass scale) in hooking up with random men they don't know, and will never see again. Even in very sex-positive spaces like kink/swinger clubs, women still largely want to build some friendship/emotional bond with the person before screwing them. Also women rarely orgasm in one night stands. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/22 04:14 PM |
| 15 | The average man isn't attracted to the average woman either.If the average man is also overweight/obese, and doesn't put effort into his style/looks, should I have any reason to believe the majority of men here are actually "above-average" and not just average? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 06:06 PM |
| 3 | The average man isn't attracted to the average woman either.70% of the US is overweight, and 40% of that 70% is obese. Most people absolutely are overweight or obese. You're just in a state that is highly concentrated around money/health and fitness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 06:03 PM |
| 7 | The average man isn't attracted to the average woman either.I'm 5'6 and 130 and look great body wise, but I also workout and do lots of ab training. I'd imagine it probably looks different on someone who isn't into fitness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 05:11 PM |
| 12 | The average man isn't attracted to the average woman either.in real life, women can wear that extremely well Some women, but most probably don't. The average man/woman isn't super into fitness or very well-proportioned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 03:54 PM |
| 21 | The average man isn't attracted to the average woman either.The majority of Reddit is from the US though, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 03:48 PM |
| 21 | The average man isn't attracted to the average woman either.I know it's repetitive, but since the dudes keep making posts about this over and over I felt it was my turn lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 03:48 PM |
| 18 | The average man isn't attracted to the average woman either.Absolutely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 03:47 PM |
| 3 | Ladies - The More Times You Had Sex With A Casual Hook Up, Did You Start Developing Feelings?Yeah, no dispute it was a casual relationship. I just don't personally view it as "dating." But to each their own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 10:34 PM |
| 21 | Tinder is effectively broken already.My favorite part of reading comments on posts like these, is that men here will say "most women on dating apps are bottom barrel, they're ugly/fat/unattractive" and in the next thread say "average women aren't attracted to average men! They're soooo picky!" and by "average" woman they mean a woman in her 20s who's feminine, not overweight, and with a reasonably pretty face. Aka ABOVE average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 10:33 PM |
| 14 | Tinder is effectively broken already.The irony of men from PPD making this statement 💀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 10:29 PM |
| 6 | Ladies - The More Times You Had Sex With A Casual Hook Up, Did You Start Developing Feelings?I like labels, the label "dating" just wasn't applicable to them. "Dating" to me implies the step before a relationship. There was no LTR potential. The connection was fun, but superficial. Like, I go out with my buddies but we're not dating. That's just being a friend. It gets confusing in modern dating culture because people say "FWB" when they really just mean "bang buddy." "FWB" to me means we're actually friends, and the sex is a side bonus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 10:27 PM |
| 11 | Ladies - The More Times You Had Sex With A Casual Hook Up, Did You Start Developing Feelings?I've never had a "FWB" where we didn't do something else on top of having sex. With my old FWBs, we'd usually go out for drinks/food, or watch Netflix and talk, or hang out with friends of ours together... It's never been just "wham bam thank you ma'am." So yeah, I've developed feelings for most of my FWBs. Liking hanging out with someone + attraction is usually how I end up wanting sex with someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 09:50 PM |
| 3 | 10% of people check their smartphones during sex, and 35% of them check their phones immediately after sex.This seems very plausible in a long-term relationship. Sex isn't always going to be some crazy marathon. If you've been fucking the same person for years, sometimes you might want a quickie before you do something and then you check your phone after. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 09:45 PM |
| 1 | 10% of people check their smartphones during sex, and 35% of them check their phones immediately after sex.😳 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 09:41 PM |
| 11 | Does it really boil down to looks as far as what makes a woman a potential partner vs a best friend?The guys on here won't believe you because according to them, if you're a guys "looksmatch" he will always want to date you, ALWAYS! Even though IRL, it doesn't actually work like that. People factor in more than looks especially for an actual relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 05:36 PM |
| 26 | Does it really boil down to looks as far as what makes a woman a potential partner vs a best friend?This, or she's just aiming for men who don't want a relationship right now. With anyone. A lot of men in their 20s who are attractive (and social) just want to sow their wild oats. OP, look at the guys you're into and their relationship history (or lack thereof). Relationship-oriented guys who are attractive are usually going to have multiple LTRs under their belt. If a guy only has short-term relationships mostly, that should be a sign. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 05:32 PM |
| 3 | Men who only LTR exceptionally low n women while being promiscuous themselves generally make for bad partners.Then why didn't you say "men can't have as much sex with as many random women, as women can with men" Yeah, that statement is obviously true. You're talking about having sex in general. Which an average guy can. The goalposts with PPD dudes here constantly change. First it's you can't have enough sex. Then it's oh wait you don't want to fuck fat women. Then it's oh wait you don't want to fuck the same woman. Sorry, there's no free brothel where attractive women have tons of casual sex with men t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Men who only LTR exceptionally low n women while being promiscuous themselves generally make for bad partners.Getting a stranger to fuck you isn't the same as getting laid more than a "promiscious female." An average guy who's social and lowers standards for casual can get multiple FWBs and rotate them. He does not need to fuck a new woman from a bar every night. He can have plenty of sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 07:52 PM |
| 8 | Men who only LTR exceptionally low n women while being promiscuous themselves generally make for bad partners.Plenty of average looking dudes I know (overweight, nerdy etc) have had FWBs and can get laid plenty. Are they getting new poon every week? Usually not. Are they getting with "Stacys"? No. But they're getting laid plenty because they're social. You can fuck the same woman more than once... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 06:55 PM |
| 16 | Men who only LTR exceptionally low n women while being promiscuous themselves generally make for bad partners.Or Social and shooting their shot at a lot of women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 06:31 PM |
| 9 | Men who only LTR exceptionally low n women while being promiscuous themselves generally make for bad partners.Most high-n guys are not rich or social media spectacles. They're meeting women similar to them, through social circles or events. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 05:57 PM |
| 11 | What exactly makes women horny?Eh, I love sex with men but don't find penises visually arousing without context. I think the female form is simply more visually appealing. Even straight women I know (I'm bi) have said this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 04:22 PM |
| 33 | Men who only LTR exceptionally low n women while being promiscuous themselves generally make for bad partners.I almost never see this in real life. People generally partner with people similar to them. Promiscuous guys usually end up partnering up with one of the women they hooked up with first. They're not clubbing on Saturday night, and then meeting up with their virgin girlfriend at church Sunday morning. It is true that in most "promiscuous" pairings, men usually have a higher n count. But that's just because that's the stats and how it plays out. The "high n count" guys still usually have around 3x… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 04:19 PM |
| 41 | "Just get a social circle bro" is very outdated adviceThat's the other thing too. All these guys complaining about not getting dates, I wonder what they'd do if they actually got them? The woman is going to want to get to know you, and once she finds you that you don't have any friends that's going to be a big red flag. Women don't want to be a man's only source of socialization/friendship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 03:46 PM |
| 7 | "Just get a social circle bro" is very outdated advicemy circle is more of a casual type I think this is a big key to making friendships at 25+. My city isn't even a major metro, but we have a decent amount of events going on weekly. Local stand-up comedy open mic, karaoke, yoga, sports, etc. You go out alone, build the confidence to socialize and make a friend, then go out with that friend, then make more friends, etc... It's a gradual process. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 03:42 PM |
| 14 | "Just get a social circle bro" is very outdated advice"Charisma on command" has a lot of great videos on conversation skills, building rapport, making friendships, etc. Basically the crux of relationship-building is not being impressive, but being impressed by the other person. Making them feel like they're the most interesting person in the room. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 03:36 PM |
| 50 | Why do people expect men to 'just get it' when sociosexual development takes years in other primates?This is like asking men why they prefer "fit, feminine women" even though working out and putting effort into their looks take time.... People are attracted to who they're attracted to. They're not thinking: "How can my partner selection impact the dating market on a macro level?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 05:50 PM |
| 5 | So sex is seeming more and more transactional these days. Who’s to blame?Women not being used to having good and consistent orgasms doesn't mean she doesn't care. Wait until that same woman meets a guy who's hot and can get her off in bed. And yes, both men/women tend to tolerate more when there's strong physical attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:30 PM |
| 17 | So sex is seeming more and more transactional these days. Who’s to blame?finger her to orgasm Most women orgasm via clitoral stimulation, not insertion... So... Women don't care about their own orgasm. From your sample size of 1, your girlfriend? I've dumped many women that did starfish Right, so your sample size of 1. Most men orgasm via casual sex while most women don't. Even "starfish" poon for men is usually better than what lack of care means for women banging men casually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 07:49 PM |
| 40 | So sex is seeming more and more transactional these days. Who’s to blame?Yup, this. Some men will say: "Of course we're not going to put effort into sex with a woman if it's casual, her orgasm doesn't matter, because we're using her" Then they'll also say: "I don't understand why women want relationships, why can't they just be as horny and eager to have random sex as men are?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 05:32 PM |
| 17 | Women prefer toxic menAgreed. The other part of this is the traits that often come with "being an asshole." Boldness. Confidence. Willingness to initiate and create sexual tension. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 03:15 AM |
| 13 | Women ask men to be fair while reserving themselves the right to be cruelEverything that you said has a opposite POV for men. When you have a certain worldview, of course you're going to begin to see everything (or most things) through that lense. Examples: I almost never see a "Chad" or very attractive guy be in a LTR with an average/below-average woman. Even in the manosphere where men talk about women's "delusional" standards, the next video will give tips on how men can date women out of their league. I see it here constantly too. In real life, I see way more wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 03:51 PM |
| 7 | Hypergamy exists - and it will get worseA few of my guy friends would be "Chads" according to this sub, based on the fact they've had 15+ sex partners. Thing is, they have nerdy hobbies and are overweight, not very conventionally hot, so they're obviously not Chads. Lol. But they are social and put effort in. I see 2 common trends on this sub: 1) lack of socialization/autism which makes dating a lot more difficult and 2) thinking "above-average" women are actually average. Like, if you only want a younger 20-something fit/slim-thick w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 03:58 AM |
| 6 | Hypergamy exists - and it will get worsewho do you think women have sex with? Usually men they're in relationships with. The margin of men having high N counts are having sex with an abundance of these women that didn't partner with those other men Doesn't confirm hypergamy, because you don't have any proof it's because "women want the top tier guys" Some guys are more social. Some guys approach more women and take more opportunities. Some guys have very low standards for casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 03:44 AM |
| 9 | Hypergamy exists - and it will get worseWhat's the point though? I see you address it, but I'm failing to understand how the confirms "hypergamy" and not just "women overall want casual sex less than men and so men who can take more opportunities to have it." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 03:11 AM |
| 13 | Hypergamy exists - and it will get worseI was talking about survey 1. But even on your CDC data, the data isn't showing what you think it's showing 😂 Of sexually-active adults, women have higher %s on the lower end. Then towards the middle, men and women are almost "neck in neck" in terms of bodycount. Then towards the top, men SIGNIFICANTLY outbeat women. Also, don't men constantly talk about 80/20 like it's law? If that's so, how come nearly 30% of men have had sex with 15+ women? An additional 12% of men have had 10+ partners, and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 03:03 AM |
| 16 | Hypergamy exists - and it will get worseLook at the graph. More men have had 0 partners, but after 1 partner per year men are (on average) having more sex partners. And those men having sex casually are likely doing it with the same women going for casual Yeah but way more men are looking for casual sex, and more frequently. This isn't a sign of "hypergamy." It's a sign that women overall aren't into casual sex as much, and as often, as men. Shocker lol. And the small % who are have their pick of the litter, since most women aren't. N… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 02:40 AM |
| 18 | A common response to criticizing the current state of dating is “they want us to just fuck ugly dudes” when literally no one is suggesting that. Suggesting average women date in their league or slightly above is not the same as telling them to fuck fat guys.Question - were all (or at least the majority) of the women at that table not significantly overweight, younger, and pretty good looking? I ask because, men will say that average women don't want average men... then when I ask them to describe an "average" woman, they describe an above-average woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 05:21 PM |
| 19 | A common response to criticizing the current state of dating is “they want us to just fuck ugly dudes” when literally no one is suggesting that. Suggesting average women date in their league or slightly above is not the same as telling them to fuck fat guys.A lot of PPD dudes just want casual sex with a bunch of women, so they're not caring that much about staying in a healthy relationship. When they say "date," most of the time just change it to "have casual sex with." The arguments will start to make more sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 05:18 PM |
| 20 | Why do you think gay men and lesbians don't need to use red pill, fds and debate on subs like this?This. Gay men have told me all the time how hard it is to find meaningful relationships or monogamy if they want it. Lesbians tell me how hard it is with a small dating pool, dating apps full of M/F couples looking for threesomes, etc. There's gay and lesbian subreddits on here where people ask for advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 02:48 PM |
| 23 | This trend of women feeling entitled to a man of much higher SMV will end up with a lot of women getting cheated on and/or replaced.The average man doesn't make that much more income than the average woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 04:01 PM |
| 11 | [Meta discussion] Is this sub quality declining steeply? If so, why?The only time I used any "shaming tactics" is when it's obvious it's been the same fcking user with 50 alt accounts, making posts about the *same thing over and over and over. Like that one dude who said older women's standards are "delusional" because a 35+ women from a bar didn't want to have a one night stand with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 03:47 PM |
| 22 | This trend of women feeling entitled to a man of much higher SMV will end up with a lot of women getting cheated on and/or replaced.Your entire viewpoint is that women feel "entitled" to a higher SMV man... but now you're saying the "only fair way" to make things fair is lower SMV men being entitled to hotter women than them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 03:36 PM |
| 7 | Q4W: How often do you get approached and asked out in public?They don't care about your shoes It does make a difference. I'm not saying it'll pull you from a 5 to an 8, but it'll get you a little bit more noticed for sure. why not post a picture Cause I value my privacy lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 09:12 PM |
| 6 | Q4W: How often do you get approached and asked out in public?You're right lol, my boobs are small but perky. I make it up for it with my badonkadonk tho lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 08:10 PM |
| 24 | Q4W: How often do you get approached and asked out in public?A but also B? Lol. I get approached almost everytime I go out, but only in places where it's commonly acceptable like bars, social events, etc. I don't think men approach often in environments that aren't "safe" or that it would seem inappropriate, regardless of what you look like. But I do get honked at occasionally even walking during the day, etc. My rating? I don't know, men here have rated literal models here 7, so it's subjective. I'm 26, I workout (5'6 130), and I dress feminine when I go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 06:19 PM |
| 3 | Why is it a bad deal?Maybe I'm insane, but I'd honestly be fine with this. I value emotional connection and great conversations over gift-giving. If I like you, I'll like you even at Waffle house and if I don't like you, no amount of "spoiling" will change my mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 03:13 AM |
| 9 | If your spouse cheated with somebody of the same sex, would you feel the same as if they cheated with the opposite sex?What if the woman your girlfriend wanted to bang on the side was butch? Just wondering, cause I find a lot of times when guys say they're cool with it, they're envisioning 2 conventionally attractive, feminine women. The reason they're so "cool" with it is because it's still performative for the male gaze/turns you on even if you're not directly involved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 02:57 AM |
| 30 | Men should shoot their shot. Always. Sorry if that makes you uncomfortable, women.This is the answer. I don't think a lot of men realize they can "shoot their shot" in a socially-calibrated way. The issue is that men view approaching a woman with the mentality of, "how do I get her to like me, so I can get what I want from her?" instead of "she caught my attention, I'm going to see if we can have decent rapport and if so, then I'll ask for her number"... The guys I've known who "pull" women left and right are not asking women out as soon as they approach. They're building rap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 05:04 PM |
| 40 | Something i noticed about tinder statisticsplenty of gay bars but you regularly hear about lesbian bars shutting down Yup, this is also because lesbians tend to "U-haul" (get into monogamous LTRs quickly) which takes away part of the "purpose" of a lesbian bar. Gay men are more likely to want frequent hookups, and/or be in open relationships, so gay bars have more clientele. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 07:25 PM |
| 22 | do women envy men in dating?I mean, I'm a woman who masturbates everyday but that's about good enough for me. If I can't find someone I connect with, I'm fine not having sex with anyone for months or longer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/22 04:04 AM |
| 3 | The Rise of The Single Lonely MaleIf this is really true, and women really just want "assholes" (and it's not the fact they had other positive qualities that drew those women to them)... Why don't the men here just become assholes so they get women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 10:08 PM |
| 5 | The Rise of The Single Lonely MaleI think it is hard for a lot of people, because they're not realizing the trick: Being good company isn't about trying to be the most interesting, funnest, funniest person in the room. It's about making the OTHER person feel THEY are all those things. You ask them about things that interest them, and then show interest/enthusiasm in something they're passionate about... and if you can, find a way to relate it to something you do/know/feel. Many people go into dating thinking solely of their own … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 09:48 PM |
| 2 | The Rise of The Single Lonely MaleMost people are average looking. Not ugly or super hot. And considering most of America is overweight and men don't put nearly as much effort as women into fashion/style, it's not that difficult to become "above average" as a man. Then if you work on your charisma and put yourself in IRL environments to meet women, you can eventually get dates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 09:40 PM |
| 22 | Women have a much more delusional idea of average than men doOr maybe... just maybe... Women on OKC are factoring in profile content, hobbies, compatibility questions etc more heavily than just "looks" Especially when this survey was done, OKC wasn't a "swipe" app yet. People were reading profiles and filling out long questionnaires to actually find compatible people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 07:59 PM |
| 2 | Worried about foodie calls and pump-and-dumps are overblownWhy are some men cool with not using condoms with women they barely know? It's a similar concept. Humans aren't always using logic, especially when they're aroused. And the simple reality is women don't have sex because it's "logical," they have sex when they're aroused. And women's arousal is often based more on the environment, context, and how the man is making her feel. Men don't get this, because many men have more spontaneous arousal and they're aroused by visuals. Men also have more testo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/22 08:45 PM |
| 6 | I think we need to relook at what the “ average man” actually isHave you been to Walmart lately? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 07:02 PM |
| 5 | I think we need to relook at what the “ average man” actually isThe average young man or woman is not fat Look up the stats buddy, after 20 years old they are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 04:52 PM |
| 10 | I think we need to relook at what the “ average man” actually is70% of women I wouldn't approach or swipe right on Tinder Tell me more about how men find most women attractive again... 😜 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 04:43 PM |
| 64 | I think we need to relook at what the “ average man” actually isEven the women ON social media usually don't look as good IRL. That's how unrealistic some of these expectations are. If you're wondering how these women have proportions like cartoon characters, it's literally because it's not them (or surgery). I was messing with facetune the other day, and with the right type of photo you can turn yourself into a supermodel without it even looking edited. It's insane. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 04:24 PM |
| 7 | Women really dislike autistic menWhat do you mean by date? What I mean is that autistic women have it easier (all other things being equal) dating than autistic men. Not just getting "pumped and dumped" or casual sex. Yes, all women (NT or not) have more men wanting to sleep with them, than men wanting to date them. Autistic women get more of a "pass" for their social awkwardness than autistic men. Even watching shows like "Love on the Spectrum" shows a lot of ND women having exes/boyfriends who are NT, while the same is not tr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 09:30 PM |
| 3 | Women really dislike autistic menYes, of course. I was comparing autistic women to autistic men. Not autistic women to NT women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 09:18 PM |
| 11 | Women really dislike autistic menI think there's a bit of a difference though. Since women are valued so heavily for the way they look, I think it's easier for conventionally attractive autistic women to be able to date neurotypical people than the reverse. Shyness/social anxiety isn't as much of a "strike" against women as it is men. Also, autism in women is frequently underreported because women usually "imitate" other's behavior around them quicker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 09:12 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men who want practical dating advice from women should listen to women who date both women and men.I disagree, but respect your perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 05:25 PM |
| 18 | CMV: Men who want practical dating advice from women should listen to women who date both women and men.Agreed. As a bi woman, I do face a lot of issues that men face when dealing with women (like flakiness, passivity, etc). The advantage of dating women as a woman though, is women aren't "on guard" around you. I could use the same pickup line a man does on a woman, and there's a much higher chance that even if she isn't interested I won't be viewed as a "creep." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 04:00 PM |
| 3 | CMV: There are far more “Amber Heard’s” out there than women let on.it's rare that men are yelling at eachother during a sports event Guess you've never seen boxing. Nothing that I'm saying sounds insane, it's a reasonable comparison of how men/women view entertainment but you're clearly stuck in your own worldview, so continue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 02:49 PM |
| 4 | CMV: There are far more “Amber Heard’s” out there than women let on.It's a bunch of men working together... Against a bunch of other men to "win" the game. It's competition and working against someone else. Reality tv usually also has groups of friends working together towards a common goal. The drama is the entertainment portion, just like the men yelling at their "opponent" in sports is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 02:43 PM |
| 9 | CMV: Men who want practical dating advice from women should listen to women who date both women and men.Agreed. I'm a bi woman and almost every queer woman I've met has agreed that women are difficult to date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 02:09 PM |
| 3 | CMV: There are far more “Amber Heard’s” out there than women let on.Reality tv shows to women are what sports are to men. Men like conflict as well, physical conflict over emotional. Women prefer watching emotional conflict over physical. Obviously I'm generalizing but it's usually just entertainment; not about BPD or whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 02:03 PM |
| 25 | CMV: There are far more “Amber Heard’s” out there than women let on.Men also willingly pursue and date the Amber Heards of the world... So... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 01:59 PM |
| 17 | Women claim all guys, even below average men, struggle because they all want "hot supermodel stacies" and yet they defend women who have delusional, unrealistic standardsIf we're assuming a standard bell-curve, the "average" person would be rated a 5. The average man/woman in the US is overweight (bordering on obese) and not very attractive. These PPD dudes don't realize that any level of conventional attractiveness is ABOVE average. It's also about supply:demand. When 70% of the US is overweight, a woman who's young, fit, and has a reasonably pretty face is more rare. Maybe about 15% of the population? Using men's rating here, most women would be 1-4. Which mea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/22 03:39 PM |
| 21 | Do you think women place the same rules on ugly guys and attractive guys?I disagree. Attractive men still have to do some legwork usually to get women. They still (usually) have to approach, make the 1st move, ask the woman out, etc. They're not getting their drinks/dinner paid for, getting approached by attractive women in mass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 05:27 PM |
| 61 | Do you think women place the same rules on ugly guys and attractive guys?Do you think one gender does it more than the other? Yup, men. If you're a physically attractive woman, you can get free drinks, free dinners, tons of sex/relationship offers based almost solely off your looks, hired for jobs based of looks/sex appeal alone regardless of talent, the list goes on. If you're a physically attractive man, sure, you get more chances/opportunities to showcase your other qualities. But you still usually have to bring other things to the table too more often than the re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 04:50 PM |
| 10 | Ladies - how do you feel about the supposed trend that men are cold approaching less often these days?Probably location-dependent. My best friend and I live in the Midwest, and almost never get hit on unless we dress up and go out to bars/clubs. But we went on a mini trip to Miami, and one 5 minute walk to the gym got as "honked at" about 30 times there and back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 01:12 AM |
| 4 | The fact that in almost any discussion about dating there is an overriding implication that women are the prize and men are lucky to win them suggests women are superior to men and is symptomatic of the misandry and gynocentric sentiment that is rampant in western cultureI don't know what ya'll are basing these "takes" off of lmaoooo There's tons of men who could easily get casual sex, but choose a LTR or marriage because they value connection over novelty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 06:42 PM |
| 11 | The fact that in almost any discussion about dating there is an overriding implication that women are the prize and men are lucky to win them suggests women are superior to men and is symptomatic of the misandry and gynocentric sentiment that is rampant in western cultureI'm waiting for the 5th post this guy will write bout the "ugly post wall" woman who rejected his casual sex offer at a bar 💀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/22 06:25 PM |
| 4 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLD"Rebecca Lynn Pope" is a female matchmaker, and basically said the same thing about her male clients: The majority of men who hired her as a matchmaker, did so with a specific "look" of the woman they wanted in mind. People who pay for things otherwise free are often doing so for a reason, specificity being one of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDI'm not saying women don't prefer tall men. They do. I'm just saying it's not that 60% of women on Bumble are filtering by 6'. It's 60% of the women who are paying. So maybe 1-2% of women on Bumble? "Almost always" is a bit extreme. I do think a lot of them do, but a lot of them don't as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 06:29 PM |
| 3 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDPeople who pay for apps tend to do so for a reason -- and Bumble is 70% men so for women, "that reason" usually is to filter. It doesn't surprise me at all that the small % of women who are paying for dating apps, are doing so to filter for their ideal. But we already know women like tall men, and men like fit women. What else is new? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 06:23 PM |
| 0 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDthis is a premium feature This argument pretty much ended with this. The vast majority of women DON'T pay for dating apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 06:09 PM |
| 2 | Having a list of positive traits/achievements isn't enough for successful dating.I did put almost before the every lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 05:55 PM |
| 4 | Having a list of positive traits/achievements isn't enough for successful dating.I've seen patterns here too, but more in regards to socialization. In almost EVERY conversation I've had with unsucessful men here, they haven't asked out many women. 1 guy a few weeks ago complained about "constantly being rejected," but then admitted he had not asked out a single woman all year. It makes me wonder - how often are these guys actually getting rejected IRL? Are they just counting dating apps as "rejection"? Are they even trying? Even when you suggest small tweaks they can do to i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 04:03 PM |
| 4 | Having a list of positive traits/achievements isn't enough for successful dating.I agree with you. Lol. The other issue is, when constructive critcism is actually given, a lot of people won't take it. I could name 10 small things immediately the dudes in the "rating PPD users" thread could do to make themselves more attractive to women, but they don't care. Their response is that it still won't make them "Chad" so it's not worth it. Imagine if someone said that in regards to income - hey, I could do this thing that makes me 80k/year (far above the average income) but if it d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 03:52 PM |
| 1 | “When men sleep around no one cares, in fact, it’s almost applauded. Yet when women sleep around, she’s considered promiscuous and shamed for it.” Sorry ladies, it’s not the same thing, no matter how much you want it to beThis. Make yourself an attractive partner for the type of person you WANT to be with, and stop worrying about the types of people you're not interested in anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 04:46 PM |
| 41 | What common takes from women do you disagree with?A common thing I see on the regular dating subs, is women thinking it's okay to gain a significant amount of weight in a relationship... Like 50-100 pounds. I understand there's circumstances where weight fluctuates, and rare uncontrollable health issues... But a partner simply getting lazy and gaining that (with no intention of losing it) isn't okay with me. I like looking "hot" and I want a partner who feels the same. We can't be 25 forever, but we can continue to be our best 35, 45, 55+ and t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 03:26 AM |
| 18 | What common takes from women do you disagree with?The issue with women requiring certain things to "weed a man out" is that a subset of men will just do the thing, but still not be serious. Same deal as the "he needs to ask me out first, or he doesn't like me." Tons of men will just shoot their shot at everyone; that doesn't mean he likes you more. It doesn't make sense why women aren't vetting for qualities like - being reliable, a good listener, communicative, texting back in a timely manner, showing up on time to dates, showing genuine inter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 03:16 AM |
| 24 | Women don’t seem to listen to men here nor care about what they are saying. This is perhaps most evident in their continually responding to every complaint men make about dating by implying they only want sex, when a good number of men here want companionship.Yeah, please show me the 100s of threads of men who just want an equal, loving partnership with a woman he's compatible with. Instead, it's threads complaining about how "post wall women are delusional because they don't want rando sex from a bar" Or "women should expect good looking guys to cheat because men are biologically designed to spread seed" Or "average men don't want average women... and by average woman, I mean under 30, fit, and attractive. Fat women aren't people!" Etc etc etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 02:45 PM |
| 15 | What issues do you actually feel for women about?I honestly think men who think this way are already expecting their wife to take on the vast majority, if not almost all, of the childcare. That's why they're not concerned about age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 02:38 PM |
| 3 | Question for the women on here & I want you to genuinely think about it rather than impulsively answering.I've definately heard of many scenerios of women screaming at their boyfriends and calling them "gay" when they don't want sex. I've also seen drunk women at bars sexually assault/grope men, and it gets brushed off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 01:59 PM |
| 23 | Even women in their 30s and 40s, well past their prime have almost the same level of entitlement (sometimes even more) as younger women. This is further confirmation that women are completely delusional in their self assessment, far worse than men in this regard.This lol. Men do the same "Apex Fallacy" thing they claim women do - they take very outlier examples of older men/younger women like DiCaprio, or famous actors etc... I'm sorry, but what % of PPD are going to end up becoming millionares/famous? The majority of people are average and marry within 5 years of their own age. These dudes cherry-pick examples of women struggling with dating, and also cherry-pick the examples of older men thriving. Tons of 30+ women found a partner they wanted, and ton… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/22 07:26 PM |
| 45 | Even women in their 30s and 40s, well past their prime have almost the same level of entitlement (sometimes even more) as younger women. This is further confirmation that women are completely delusional in their self assessment, far worse than men in this regard.I mean, hey, this "post-wall aging woman" has been clearly living rent-free in OP's mind for months... For being so "undesirable"... Maybe he'll write another 5 posts about her under a diff username in the coming months 💀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/22 06:16 PM |
| 63 | Even women in their 30s and 40s, well past their prime have almost the same level of entitlement (sometimes even more) as younger women. This is further confirmation that women are completely delusional in their self assessment, far worse than men in this regard.I swear OP has already posted this story before (under an alt account) and changed some details of the story. I'm pretty sure in his original story, he tried to get her to go back to his place. That's why she then said "oh, you just go all in huh?" And yeah, duh. She might've been interested, but didn't want to bone a stranger? What's so hard about this to understand? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/22 05:52 PM |
| 37 | Even women in their 30s and 40s, well past their prime have almost the same level of entitlement (sometimes even more) as younger women. This is further confirmation that women are completely delusional in their self assessment, far worse than men in this regard.OP sounds like he's much younger than she is. This woman probably isn't delusional. She knows he's likely only hitting on her at this bar because he wants casual sex. So it's "entitlement" if she rejects him because she's not interested in a one night stand with him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/22 04:15 PM |
| 6 | Why do men choose certain women over others as far as to pursue relationships with?Right, but it goes against the PPD circlejerk that men only want to wife the 23 year old virgin who doesn't party. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/22 01:18 AM |
| 7 | Why do men choose certain women over others as far as to pursue relationships with?You don't have to believe me if you don't want to 😁 I don't need your approval. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 08:09 PM |
| 15 | Why do men choose certain women over others as far as to pursue relationships with?When men say "the fun girl," they usually mean a woman who is a good time when they're looking for excitement... but the connection is shallow. She's not mentally/emotionally stimulating, and/or she lacks "stability" in areas of her life that make people not interested in her long-term. Don't let these PPD dudes fool you though - if a woman can master both, she will have tons of options for commitment. My best friend is like this - attractive, fit, kind, caring, occassionally parties and is a fu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 07:24 PM |
| 7 | Women often like guys who treat them as disposableMost of this is simply selection bias. My 2c: Women who aren't attracted to "bad boys" and players are usually getting into, and staying in, LTRs longer. They're not constantly "on the dating market,' especially if they're attractive. Women who are constantly on Tinder or at bars/clubs are not representative of all women. Many of those women might be chasing novelty and "fun" just like the men are. Often those women ALSO have toxic character traits, so it makes sense she'd gravitate towards "par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 03:55 PM |
| 2 | Motivation to date because every girl I know had a history of "ho phases" and toxic guys/tendenciesThen stop hooking up! Lol This isn't an issue in a relationship, or a dating scenerio leading to one. Build enough trust to communicate, get tested together, and take it from there. This is hookup culture. Accept the risks or don't participate in it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 01:26 AM |
| 20 | The #1 reason women are so selective and flake so easily is because they simply aren’t as interested in men or dating as the reverse which inflates their options and in turn their egos, not because of the “danger” of dating as a woman or risk of getting pregnant.Don't you ever get bored of posting the same thread over and over and over? How about this. Watch some YouTube videos about charisma. "Charisma on command" is a good one. Cultivate some personality, interests, hobbies. Find ways to channel your negativity/bitterness in a healthy way - self-help, therapy, etc. Then go outside, and talk to women. Don't look at them and say: "She's a 5, she has to like me or I'm going to get on Reddit and whine about it later." Ask her about herself, hobbies. Act g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 04:37 PM |
| 5 | What exactly is a average guys "league" when skinny and plus sized women play on the same level playing field?My opinion too. I know men who would 100% prefer her, over a super skinny woman who didn't have boobs or a butt. Even if he had both options to choose from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 08:07 PM |
| 7 | What exactly is a average guys "league" when skinny and plus sized women play on the same level playing field?No. Most people will fall between 4-6. 7s and 3s are slightly more rare, 2s and 8s get even rarer, and 1s and 10s are very very rare. Assuming standard bell curve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 08:00 PM |
| 22 | What exactly is a average guys "league" when skinny and plus sized women play on the same level playing field?This is the "average woman" in the US, according to height/weight: https://www.height-weight-chart.com/504-170.html If we say average is a 5, I'd say a lot of guys would choose the woman in the photo over the link of women I sent. You can "bruh" me all day long, but skinny/fit women are NOT average in the US. RP dudes need to get this in their thick skulls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 05:11 PM |
| 29 | What exactly is a average guys "league" when skinny and plus sized women play on the same level playing field?I'm a bi woman who'd consider myself pretty picky, and I don't think the 1st woman is repulsive. She has an hourglass figure, looks somewhat young. Feminine. She's not my type, but I could see some men genuinely being attracted to her. A lot of women who are plus-size don't have the hip-to-waist ratio she does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 04:21 PM |
| 6 | Guys cannot claim they have low standards if they wont date overweight women.They absolutely can, if they're not happy with their dating results. If they're fine being fat and are getting the outcomes they want, they don't have to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 04:16 PM |
| 9 | Guys cannot claim they have low standards if they wont date overweight women.How are men attracted to 80% of women when they don't want an overweight woman, yet 70% of the US is overweight? Your math aint mathin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:34 PM |
| 2 | Which one of these three guys would you prefer for a relationship and why?Mário is a bit of a fuckboy What does this mean? What was the context of the sex he's had? Was he just going through a phase? Has he ever had a LTR? Did the women know it was casual, or was he pretending he wanted to commit to them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:37 PM |
| 4 | Guys cannot claim they have low standards if they wont date overweight women.Not being able to have any food at all and starve to death... Is different than refusing to eat because you can't afford fine dining. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:33 PM |
| -3 | Guys cannot claim they have low standards if they wont date overweight women.Poor is a pretty good analogy actually. If you're very poor, but you only want to work at jobs that pay at or above the median US income (31k a year or higher)... Well, sorry. There's not enough jobs that everyone can get that salary. Half the population is going to need to work for less, because that's the numbers and how this plays out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:02 PM |
| 20 | Guys cannot claim they have low standards if they wont date overweight women.All of this is true, but then guys shouldn't complain about women only wanting the top "whatever %" of men. If men can't change who they're attracted to, niether can women. Men want someone they feel high sexual attraction for, so do women. If a man/woman can't get who they want, they can work on themselves, keep trying for who they want and maybe eventually get it, or accept being single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 01:17 PM |
| 27 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?I find his dry humor funny, that being said he's part of the "RP pyramid schemes." Men want his lifestyle and a harem of women, so they buy his stuff or watch his content. This makes him even more rich/famous, and able to get even more women. The majority of men who watch his content will never have what he has. But if Andrew can keep selling that dream, he can keep affording his harem of sugar babies girlfriends. Similar deal with Fresh and Fit. Anyone who thinks Walter got "baddies" before tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 01:38 AM |
| 2 | men have 100% control in whether or not a woman gets pregnant, overturning roe v wade gets rid of any responsibility a man has in these situationsI would say it's the equivalent of half a form of birth control. Meaning it's a good idea to use in addition to using a better form of birth control (pulling out + condoms, pulling out + bc pill, pulling out + IUD, etc) if you really want to ensure a good amount of safety from pregnancy. You're absolutely right though, that it's an awful method on it's own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 06:55 PM |
| 11 | What do men feel emasculated on / double standard?women cheating is worse than men cheating In both situations, you and the woman I'm talking about didn't even cheat 😒 It's annoying reading the comments here saying she cheated. She DIDN'T! lmaooo. If a dude kicks you out and says hey, we're not together anymore, when that relationship is over you are NOT beholden to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 09:27 PM |
| 7 | What do men feel emasculated on / double standard?The only thing that could've happened as a direct result of her sleeping with his friend after the breakup, is him losing a friendship and/or his ego being damaged. What could've happened as a direct result of him cheating: Getting another woman pregnant while in another relationship Giving her an STD on top of her feelings being damaged, and being emotionally neglected in her own relationship. It's not the same thing, but not for the reason you're saying. It's different, because while his inten… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 09:22 PM |
| 10 | What do men feel emasculated on / double standard?Men can get overly emotional all day on here about "average men not getting dates" but any emotional talk of a pregnant woman getting cheated on while having an ab*rtion is just "hurdurdur women SO sensitive" Okay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 07:02 PM |
| 11 | What do men feel emasculated on / double standard?Bar friend. So yeah, technically right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 06:44 PM |
| 12 | What do men feel emasculated on / double standard?Of course that's your opinion lol, because you want a double-standard that's to your advantage 🙃 The ridiculousness of PPD dudes justifying a guy fucking multiple women (probs raw) as his girlfriend is at home, drugged up from bleeding out what would've been his child... What is wrong with the men here? Do ya'll have any empathy? She only slept with his friend out of pure frustration, being emotionally tapped out, and lied to about the cheating. Two wrongs don't make a right, but there's levels … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 06:44 PM |
| 21 | What do men feel emasculated on / double standard?A few of the women he cheated with she also knew. I agree the friend thing adds a layer, but bar scene tends to complicate things. I feel like if you're never around a person sober, are they really your "friend"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 05:02 PM |
| 54 | What do men feel emasculated on / double standard?One of the "Chad" guys I knew in my old friend circle cheated on his girlfriend with multiple women, while she was living with him. They broke up, and after she slept with his friend for revenge and he lost it. She tried to talk to him when grabbing her stuff to move out, and he pushed her into a wall. He was also cheating around the time she was pregnant and had an ab*rtion. He somehow thought her fucking a friend of his AFTER they broke up, was more disrespectful than him cheating on her with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 04:55 PM |
| 2 | The “rules” for men and women don’t work for anyoneThis is a very weird thing to bring up that has nothing to do with your original post or my comment lmaooo. We also protested for BLM. My younger brother is a POC (foster to adoption). Thanks for playing though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 12:44 PM |
| 23 | For those who hook up/have casual sex often with different partnersThis is very, very true. That's one of the biggest issues with the 80/20 thing too - many women aren't having casual sex/are only having sex in the context of a LTR. The RP tactics basically primarily work on a certain type of attention-seeking, novelty-driven woman who is constantly at clubs, on dating apps, getting drunk/railing lines in the bathroom, etc. I know a few guys who have been doing the same party-style druggie degenerate scene for a decade. They want a real relationship, but most h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 03:00 AM |
| 28 | How are people supposed to find partners?Men on this sub keep asking this question, and this continues to be the right answer. But it doesn't matter, because these guys simply don't want to do it. There's no magical cheat for an average dude who doesn't enjoy social interactions, mixed-group hobbies, isn't willing to at least TRY becoming more socially-calibrated, and finds IRL human interaction without an immediate pay off "boring." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 02:39 PM |
| 3 | How are people supposed to find partners?r/menandfemales | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 02:29 PM |
| – | What is causing the rise in virginity amongst men? Is it too late for these men to reenter society after becoming a 30+ year old hermit outcast?Yup, but many men here think a fit, pretty woman is "average" if she's dressed down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 04:41 PM |
| 19 | What is causing the rise in virginity amongst men? Is it too late for these men to reenter society after becoming a 30+ year old hermit outcast?Dating is harder now, no doubt about it. I also do think taking breaks from attempting to date is healthy and well-needed. That being said, if it's July and you haven't asked out a single woman IRL all year, I'm failing to understand how you can say you're constantly rejected. You can't just shoot the basketball 3 times and say, well f it. I'll never make it. Keep shooting. Try a different angle. Try a different technique. Keep trying. I won't deny some people have extremely bad luck, and it sti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 04:09 PM |
| 8 | What is causing the rise in virginity amongst men? Is it too late for these men to reenter society after becoming a 30+ year old hermit outcast?You do realize that personality traits, like being condescending, usually pour over into IRL interactions even if you think it's being covered up don't you? I agree that online is usually a more unfiltered version of people. But as much as people think it can be compartmentalized, it's usually not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 03:52 PM |
| 9 | What is causing the rise in virginity amongst men? Is it too late for these men to reenter society after becoming a 30+ year old hermit outcast?How many women have you asked out, in person (not online) this year? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 03:29 PM |
| 9 | What is causing the rise in virginity amongst men? Is it too late for these men to reenter society after becoming a 30+ year old hermit outcast?I'm not the same person you were responding to. This is what women mean when they say "have you tried not having a shitty personality?" in regards to lack of dating success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 03:28 PM |
| 13 | What is causing the rise in virginity amongst men? Is it too late for these men to reenter society after becoming a 30+ year old hermit outcast?Social life, hobbies, and friends result in many men having higher self-esteem, purpose, and social skills... which usually translates to meeting more women in IRL environments... and being more attractive to those women once he does meet them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 03:16 PM |
| 18 | What is causing the rise in virginity amongst men? Is it too late for these men to reenter society after becoming a 30+ year old hermit outcast?A fit, feminine woman in her 20s with a decently attractive face. Unfortunately, men on this sub still don't realize when 7/10 (wo)men are overweight in the US, that woman isn't just "average." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 02:48 PM |
| 18 | The “rules” for men and women don’t work for anyoneA few things: 1) The clothing thing might've been true for men in the past, but I don't think it's true anymore. Sure, men's clothing aren't as diverse/sexy as women's are most of the time... But men's fashion is rising in popularity a higher % of men now are putting effort into their style. 2) The teen pregnancy rate dropped BECAUSE of the stigma. That, and rise of sex education/social media. Also, a lot of teen moms warned their children about getting pregnant young. 3) Jordan Peterson spoke o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 12:41 PM |
| 4 | When men complain about women dating Chad and marrying Bob, is the aim for her to marry Bob sooner?Seems like a lot of squeeze for not much juice IMO. Taking a woman on dates. Getting to know her. Pretending you want a relationship. Getting her emotionally invested. Other things to worry about - condoms breaking/her lying about being on birth control and you getting her pregnant. Getting an incurable STD from increased risk of multiple sex partners, and since it's casual it's highly unlikely you're getting tested together. Also, physically attractive women with good personalities tend to get … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 04:17 PM |
| 3 | When men complain about women dating Chad and marrying Bob, is the aim for her to marry Bob sooner?Seems like having "had" better (if only for a night or two) puts you at a strong risk of resenting the less desirable person you end up with. Most women I know simply do not think like this. Actually most men I know don't either. Most healthy and well-adjusted people prefer actually connecting with someone they're attracted to (even if not "the hottest" person they've been with), over a fleeting one night stand with a model-looking person they have nothing in common with. Something often not tal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:57 PM |
| 13 | When men complain about women dating Chad and marrying Bob, is the aim for her to marry Bob sooner?Yeah, but what's the prize? Best case scenerio, you win. Okay, what now? You wasted time and energy you could've spent looking for someone you're actually compatible with, who you actually like, and want to grow with. You got your short-term hedonism and ego-boost, which you could technically argue isn't even deserved because the person didn't even actually like you. Even if you win, you're less trusting in general and you've grown accustom to playing games to "one up" someone in relationships. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:31 PM |
| 10 | When men complain about women dating Chad and marrying Bob, is the aim for her to marry Bob sooner?So if a woman knows a guy is love-bombing her and is just trying to hookup, is it cool for her to use him for his money/foodie dates/attention? You know, entertaining the Idea of "sleeping with him" but never actually follow through? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 02:58 PM |
| 35 | How addictive is the alpha male gaze to women?Women need to lower their standards, and stop aiming for men they're attracted to physically!!! ...but if they actually take that advice, they're settling for a "betabuxxx" after getting alpha chad seed 😢 Don't forget have sex with them on the 1st date, to prove you're actually attracted!!! ...but don't have a high bodycount, that makes you a hoe 😢 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 04:54 PM |
| 27 | You Can't Claim Alpha Fux Beta Bux Isn't Real And At The Same Time Say You Had Sex With A Guy You Didn't Want A Relationship WithBecause men good, women bad!!!! RP men will openly admit they'll happily "date down in looks" for submission and femininity, but no no no no no... You must be the HOTTEST guy she's EVER fucked or you're betabuxxxx!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 12:08 AM |
| 7 | Dating is not fun for men, but is for womenNot really. Tons of whores repent their sins every Sunday, men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 11:46 PM |
| 10 | Dating is not fun for men, but is for womenMen who are viewing dates the way you do are probably not successful because of it. The point of going on a date is to have fun and see if there's a connection. Why are you approaching it like a sleazy cars salesman, instead of qualifying her to see if she's up to your standards too? If you're not having fun, that's a sign you DO NOT LIKE that woman. So don't go out with her again! This is men's issue - they're so clouded by their sex drive and lack of social support (which is a genuine problem … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 11:18 PM |
| 21 | Dating is not fun for men, but is for womenHonestly, depends on the man too. I know plenty of men/women who are jaded and bitter from previous relationships, and go into dating with a negative outlook and guard up... which tends to prevent them from finding anything healthy. I also know plenty of men/women (of all ages/looks) who really enjoy dating, go in with a positive attitude and don't internalize every rejection as a failing on their end. They understand not everyone is going to be compatible with them, but enjoy meeting people and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 10:19 PM |
| 16 | Dating is not fun for men, but is for womenWhy would he be a madman? He's a slut, just like her. This is what predominantly actually happens IRL - sluts get with sluts and non-sluts get with non-sluts. The tale of "promiscuous post-wall women getting with a middle aged virgin" is an RP circle jerk fantasy and doesn't happen as often as they say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 10:00 PM |
| 7 | The average men does not want the average women (in the US)This video deserves it's own post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 04:27 PM |
| 9 | The average men does not want the average women (in the US)I, too, would also go for the "average" man if he was fit and put effort into his hair/clothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 01:38 PM |
| 88 | The average men does not want the average women (in the US)Most people in the US aren't athletes. People need to stop using this excuse. BMI is pretty accurate for the average, mostly sedentary adult. You're the exception if you're athletic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 01:34 PM |
| 24 | Dating apps make misogynist menSounds like the women who are jaded from the apps are actually doing the right thing. They're holding out and only going on dates with men they actually like, and are interested in. Now men see what happens when they "give it a chance" with women they're not actually into... It's not good for anyone. It's also why I don't fully believe in the "80/20 rule" even on dating apps. On apps that are more LTR focused (Hinge), the top 10% of BOTH women and men hold a monopoly over the total likes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 01:55 AM |
| 103 | True or false, women on this sub are more likely NOT representative of the majority of the population but the men on here AREa lot of women who spend time on niche forums like Reddit probably aren't attractive Well, yeah. The women RP dudes consider "attractive" (fit, feminine, conventionally good looking, in their 20s) are a small % of women. It's actually more likely women on this sub actually DO represent "the average woman" more than the tiktok/IG/OF women y'all lust after. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/22 11:33 AM |
| 72 | If you expect men to pay on the first date, then you don't get to complain about the wage gap.This all day. Hot, fit, feminine 20-somethings are always going to have men offering them drinks, dinner, etc. Men could find an average looking woman who's happy to split the check, but that's not the women they want. The women they want have options, so they'll have to compete. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 04:59 PM |
| 7 | If you expect men to pay on the first date, then you don't get to complain about the wage gap.😂😂😂👍 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 04:54 PM |
| 14 | CMV: Girls can be completely attracted to and interested in a guy but still reject himThe times I'm specifically thinking of - the guy approached me at a bar, we had some good conversation, and I gave him my #. Then, he only texted me a short "hey wyd?" a week+ later. In those cases, I would've gone on a date with him had he not waited so long to text me and not just "wyd" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 09:28 PM |
| 17 | CMV: Girls can be completely attracted to and interested in a guy but still reject himI agree with you. I'll also say, as a woman, the most common reason I've rejected a guy (who I was attracted to) was because it was obvious he was only looking for casual... and/or showing lackluster interest. Another reason I can think of is, not making themselves memorable in the interaction. Maybe I was attracted so I entertained the conversation, but then he asked me generic questions and didn't build enough of a connection. (I'll also add, any interaction when drunk shouldn't be taken to he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 08:18 PM |
| 12 | Are you aware of any red pill/purple pill content creators who are females?Watch her episode on Fresh and Fit lol. It's called "Can men actually be faithful?" (2 hours in) She basically brings up actual stats she has, and fights back against a lot of the "RP" talking points. 10 months later, her channel is the same "RP talking points" she already knows aren't actually accurate. She wanted money and knew pandering would get her foot in the door. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 11:00 PM |
| 6 | Are you aware of any red pill/purple pill content creators who are females?Donovan Sharpe lol. Let's talk about the fact that guy consistently shits on older women/overweight women/single moms... and... You guessed it! ... is in a relationship with an overweight, older, single mom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 10:56 PM |
| 29 | A lot of men's frustration and envy towards the opposite sex comes from how they think every female is that attractive Stacy that rejected them in high schoolI kind of agree with you, but I think rejection also plays a big role in this. Most men have to approach women and initiate if they want any kind of success with them. There's always a 50/50 chance they're going to get rejected. But men HAVE to do it. Women have the option of never approaching, literally ever. They can do almost nothing in the courting phase, and still have success getting interest, attention, and dates. The men who would've rejected them simply aren't approaching them, or aren'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 10:52 PM |
| 18 | A lot of men's frustration and envy towards the opposite sex comes from how they think every female is that attractive Stacy that rejected them in high schoolI actually agree with you here. Casual sex is also a big contributing role. In a society that encourages men and women to form lasting relationships over hedonistic thrills, the "top tier" guys would pair off first. They'd either be off the market entirely, or even when they're on the market, they'd only date women they saw some potential with. But in a promiscuous society, not all, but many of those guys stay in the dating market. And they don't care who is it - if they're horny enough, they'll… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 10:37 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men's frustration and envy towards the opposite sex comes from how they think every female is that attractive Stacy that rejected them in high schoolI agree and disagree. I agree with making it easier for someone more attractive, but honestly most of us do that. Something in our lizard brain goes 'must make babies with this person!' but we know they're out of our league, so we're hoping going "the extra mile" for them (in terms of attention, sex, etc) will make us stand out. Too bad everyone else has the same thought process, and it usually doesn't. I disagree that the standards of men are mostly realistic. I think a lot of men think they're… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 10:13 PM |
| 3 | How were you treated differently when you got fit? (men and women)It means I wouldn't be classified as "skinny" because I have a big butt lol, but I have an hourglass figure/flat stomach. My best friend would be considered more of a "spinner" and I wouldn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 03:46 PM |
| 11 | How were you treated differently when you got fit? (men and women)I was never overweight, but I was 5'6 145lbs. I have small boobs, so a lot of it was carried in my stomach. My best friend, ironically, used to be overweight and started working out. She ended up getting super fit, and I went from getting more of the attention when we went out... to getting almost none because whoever would initially be attracted to me, would end up seeing her then gravitating towards her instead. It made me feel so crappy. We started working out together, and now we both are ve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 03:00 PM |
| 38 | It is unbelievable how hostile the mainstream is to even the most innocent attempt by men to "learn" anything dating, courtship or romance-relatedI think it's more that people don't like being manipulated. By asking: "How can I create a spark?" women are interpreting that as you wanting to create something that isn't there already. And women (/people) do not want to feel manipulated. It's kind of like women who don't post full-body or recent photos, then show up on the date 40+ lbs heavier. No one wants to feel like the other person is trying to cultivate an image of themselves that isn't really them, to "get their foot in the door." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 07:55 PM |
| 11 | True, there isn't an unlimited amount of attractive men to go around....but there IS unlimited attention and ego boosting stimulus to render an artificisl inflation in girls self percieved valueIt's not subjective though. A thin/fit adult woman is a small % of the US population, just like an adult man 6'+ is a small % of the US population... Those people are going to be more "in-demand," because they're not average statistically in the US. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 07:06 PM |
| 28 | True, there isn't an unlimited amount of attractive men to go around....but there IS unlimited attention and ego boosting stimulus to render an artificisl inflation in girls self percieved valueThis 👆 There are 166 MILLION women in the US, and 40% of those women are obese. 70% are overweight, and no age doesn't impact the % - that's 20+. Be real with yourselves, men - the majority of women who are able to get thousands of IG followers are above-average in the US. If you're skinny/slim-thick after 20, you are not average in the US. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 05:28 PM |
| 9 | True, there isn't an unlimited amount of attractive men to go around....but there IS unlimited attention and ego boosting stimulus to render an artificisl inflation in girls self percieved valueI have a theory on this: It's not that most men "only want sex," it's that it comes 1st in Maslow's hierarchy of needs. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs.svg/320px-Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs.svg.png Men are, on average, much more fixated on sex because they don't have as many sexual options as women. Once they can get their sexual needs met, that's when they start climbing up the latter and caring more about love/intimacy. It's like asking… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 05:15 PM |
| 39 | Q4A At what body fat percentage is a woman's dating life hindered?The average man is tall enough for most women Yeah, but the average man also has almost the same BMI as the average woman. The average man is also too fat for most women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Here is the one and only advice that will work for you average and even unattractive menThis is true, but still, an additional 30% are "just" overweight... making only about 30% of the US a healthy/average weight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 08:00 PM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......That wasn't what I was talking about That is, quite literally, exactly what you were talking about? I'm gonna end this convo, cause it seems like you don't actually have any debates... so you just keep diverting the same topics you're creating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 12:25 AM |
| 3 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......https://www.google.com/search?q=copper+iud+how+long+it+lasts&oq=copper+iud+how+long+it+ ?????????????? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 12:13 AM |
| 4 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......Good thing there's multiple other options that I just explained, that are also very good at preventing pregnancy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 12:02 AM |
| 12 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......All of this just sounds like a lot of excuses. Condoms in the right size, and used correctly, are very reliable. You can do a cheap video-chat with a doctor if you want birth control pills. Many places have low-cost/free insurance if you're poor. My best friend got her IUD for $25 and it lasts 10 years. If you're too lazy to do the research, don't have sex. Simple as that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 11:57 PM |
| 8 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......Yes. There's also condoms. There's also non-hormonal IUDs that are low-cost with insurance or through gov programs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 11:34 PM |
| 17 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......can't afford birth control You can go to blinkhealth.com right now and get birth control pills delivered to your home for $5/month, no insurance needed. It's incredibly easy to get access to multiple forms of birth control even if you're poor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 11:27 PM |
| 12 | How do people on this sub view queer and gay relationships?This is extremely difficult for queer women though. I live in a relatively big city, but there's no lesbian bars or places solely for LGBT+ women. There's one gay bar, that's overrun with men/straight women (they 'love the vibe!') and the queer women there are similar to the ones on dating apps. If you're a WLW you could be waiting years to meet any queer woman "authentically." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 11:03 PM |
| 29 | How do people on this sub view queer and gay relationships?I'm a bi woman, and I'll give the opposite perspective... Tbh, dating women had me relating a lot to men. I'd match with women on dating apps, we'd go on a date... have tons in common, great conversation... and they'd tell me about how they're demi, and/or it takes them a while to know if they're sexually attracted to someone. We'd stay friends, then I'd find out they went on a date and immediately had sex with someone else. In a few of these situations, the woman would eventually confess feelin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 09:11 PM |
| 20 | What are the most common tropes of dating subs in general?A woman being upset things aren't working out with a specific guy, and all the Reddit neckbeards crowding around to ask if she's given "ugly, short, broke guys a chance"... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 05:30 PM |
| 17 | What are the most common tropes of dating subs in general?OC: "Average men want average women, but the same isn't true in reverse 😢" Random commenter: "I'm an average guy and have had tons of luck!" OC: "Were they fat? Those women don't count" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 05:27 PM |
| 2 | Women will settle slightly if they’re running out of time to get marriedBoth my grandparents and parents were in physically abusive relationships, that I saw growing up. I'd prefer the former statistical risk vs having a child grow up in a broken home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 04:40 PM |
| 8 | Women will settle slightly if they’re running out of time to get marriedShe could always go to a sperm donor. My mom did (she's a lesbian). Got to pick the donor's eye color, hair, height, etc. Yeah, being a single mom might suck, but spending the rest of your life on this earth with someone you don't love is worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 04:16 PM |
| 8 | CMV: women do not "set up" male friends with other women unless he meets a certain attraction threshold100%. Everyone my best friend has "set me up with" in the past have been guys I've really liked. Didn't work due to other incompatibilities, but I've never had my best friend be completely "off." Women aren't (usually) setting people up, unless they see a lot of commonalities between the two of you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 04:09 PM |
| 6 | i know this is may be being a question that has been being asked before but what is your top 3 favorite purple pill thread being?? like the most insightfull ones from the whole history of this whole sub reddit??The truth is, you can approach a woman anywhere if you do it in a socially-calibrated way and can read social cues of disinterest (in which you back off). It's more about how you do it vs where you are. It's better to start a conversation based on some observation vs walking up and immediately flirting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 11:56 AM |
| 7 | Do you consider yourself easy to attract? How easy is it for someone to pull you?If the guy is my type physically, pretty easy. He can still ruin it with an awkward/"off" personality though. If I'm neutral, it's a lot harder. But it has happened. If I'm unattracted, impossible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Have you seen any relationship that defies all reason?Not really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 04:35 PM |
| 11 | Average=invisiblePlease repeat this lol. Tons of "average" men on this sub will admit they've had girlfriends, had sex, have had many dates... but because they're not getting laid every weekend, or able to have 5 hot women on "rotation" that they're struggling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Have you seen any relationship that defies all reason?You're not wrong in terms of online, but I went to a few kink events in my city and it was the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 01:51 PM |
| 5 | Have you seen any relationship that defies all reason?Yeah, this is super common. I made a Fetlife once, then quickly deleted it when I realized it was mostly middle-aged, out-of-shape dudes on there. The crazy thing though, was a decent chunk of them had "sub" women who were much younger and hotter than them. I almost never saw a "Chad" in the kink scene. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 03:46 AM |
| 27 | Have you seen any relationship that defies all reason?Yes. One of my friends is 24, conventionally hot, thin, feminine, kind etc... She really could have her pick of the litter. But she the last few guys she's been in LTRs with were overweight, broke, and very below average looking. One was almost twice her age. Definitely a case where them standing together would warrant a "damn, how did he get her?" The thing is... while she's hot, she has some niche/nerdy hobbies that "hot guys" usually don't relate to. So she really does date guys mostly based … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 12:54 AM |
| 10 | Men (and women if applicable) who became successful with the opposite sex after being unsuccessful in their young to adult life, did it make you bitter, cynical, or spiteful towards the opposite sex?You're right, issue being... Around 25% of people are "anxious attachment." So even if it's not the majority, it's a large % and as people get older, becomes the majority of singles in the dating pool... because secure people tend to stay in LTRs for longer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 07:20 PM |
| 11 | Men (and women if applicable) who became successful with the opposite sex after being unsuccessful in their young to adult life, did it make you bitter, cynical, or spiteful towards the opposite sex?Nah, you're right. The average man and woman giving advice to the opposite sex is usually bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 02:37 PM |
| 14 | Men (and women if applicable) who became successful with the opposite sex after being unsuccessful in their young to adult life, did it make you bitter, cynical, or spiteful towards the opposite sex?For how you were framing this in your original comment, I expected a much worse answer lol. Lighthearted and fun Well, yeah, people like fun people. yet sexually direct and not easily available (almost dismissive) Directness shows confidence and asserting ones desires without fear, which is attractive. The "not easily available" part... kind of depends. The reality is, people tend to appreciate things they have to work for. In an ideal situation, both people have other friends, hobbies, stuff to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 02:05 PM |
| 11 | Men (and women if applicable) who became successful with the opposite sex after being unsuccessful in their young to adult life, did it make you bitter, cynical, or spiteful towards the opposite sex?I'm in the same position, but to me, it depends. I workout 4x a week, and am definitely way more "conventionally attractive" than I was growing up. I don't care when guys who rejected me before reach back out, but they're always way less attractive than they used to be. They gained weight, stopped grooming, etc. Their options dwindled and so now I've been working on myself, they see that but they have not. They want to cash in, but their chips are down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 12:51 PM |
| 18 | Men (and women if applicable) who became successful with the opposite sex after being unsuccessful in their young to adult life, did it make you bitter, cynical, or spiteful towards the opposite sex?What were some of the things that got noticeably better results? Just curious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 12:44 PM |
| 0 | Women would rather be pumped and dumped by a hot guy than have a fulfilling relationship with an average guyYou're cherry picking the ONE woman there who has an "hourglass" figure, which is not the average woman who weighs that much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 06:57 PM |
| 9 | Women would rather be pumped and dumped by a hot guy than have a fulfilling relationship with an average guyIt's not about blame, it's about statistics. Men also want the top women (not overweight/obese with a pretty face) and keep calling those women "average" because they're not Victoria's Secret models. You don't have to be a model to be above-average. The women most men want are above-average, and vice versa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 04:24 PM |
| 4 | Women would rather be pumped and dumped by a hot guy than have a fulfilling relationship with an average guyNope, 5'9 197. Same BMI as the average woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 04:22 PM |
| 4 | Women would rather be pumped and dumped by a hot guy than have a fulfilling relationship with an average guyThere's a few men on that link too, with the same BMI as the average man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 02:37 PM |
| 26 | Women would rather be pumped and dumped by a hot guy than have a fulfilling relationship with an average guyWhat's an "average" woman to you? Because men on this sub keep saying they're attracted to the "average" woman, yet the women they're describing as average are NOT average. The average woman in the US is 5'4 and 170 lbs: https://www.height-weight-chart.com/504-170.html I don't think the majority of men here find these women attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 02:31 PM |
| 8 | It’s really not that hard for unattractive guys/guys with typically unattractive traits to get sex from womenThis is exactly what I'm saying 😂 The average woman in the US is 5'4 and 170lbs. Pam is thin (not average in the US) and has a symmetrical face, she just dresses down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 01:58 PM |
| 4 | Women give terrible dating advice to men, but men give great dating advice to womenBecause many men will accept the date even if they're not interested in hopes of easy sex. Because it's often a recipe for a bad relationship and a dead bedroom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 10:50 PM |
| 39 | It’s really not that hard for unattractive guys/guys with typically unattractive traits to get sex from womenI've read enough of these threads on this sub to know that many of the dudes here think an "average" woman is a thin/slim-thick woman (aka hourglass figure, fat in the 'right' places) with an average face. ... So basically, NOT the average woman in the US. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 04:48 PM |
| 56 | Women give terrible dating advice to men, but men give great dating advice to womenMen give great dating advice to women No, they don't. They give advice often that's only going to make things easier and more advantageous for them. "Ask men out first!" "Sleep with a man early on so he knows you like him!" "Go out with ugly men instead of the ones you're attracted to!" ... None of this advice is actually helping a woman achieve her goal of getting into a LTR she wants with someone she desires. The person who will give you the best advice is a person of your same gender, who is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 03:51 PM |
| 21 | Why do people assume that men that don’t get dates are basement dwelling neck beards?A lot of average Redditors are like that though. Reddit has a HUGE overlap between geeks/gamers/introverts. Your average Redditor isn't going to be the hot, charismatic, "life of the party" type, with a huge social circle. That doesn't mean they don't exist... but they're not the majority of people who use Reddit. So in a way "get more hobbies," "get fit," "get better clothing," "do some in-person hobbies instead of video games" ... isn't exactly bad advice for the average Redditor? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 01:16 PM |
| 15 | All of this back and forth is pointless, women will always have an extreme advantage ONLY because men are way hornier and therefore want and need women way more than women will ever want or need men. It all comes back to this very basic fact.Yup. Most people are actually having less sex than in the past, especially young people. Sex has always mostly happened in the context of LTRs and isn't the insane, kinky, crazy sex being shown on PH. And I honestly don't see that much casual sex even happening outside drinking/drug culture. The vast majority of people consistently in "hookup culture" are heavily into partying. If these dudes want to get laid so bad, that's where people are screwing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 09:55 PM |
| 16 | All of this back and forth is pointless, women will always have an extreme advantage ONLY because men are way hornier and therefore want and need women way more than women will ever want or need men. It all comes back to this very basic fact.I'll throw in my perspective... I honestly don't think a much higher % of men are actually more sexless than in the recent past. Stats on this sub yesterday showed about 12% of men over 25 were still virgins. That's hardly a "crisis" and most men in that already-small % end up losing it and getting into a LTR before 30. What I think has actually happened, is social media is showing how easy some men have it to get laid. Those men likely already would've had it easy without apps, but the apps mad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 09:22 PM |
| 7 | Unattractive women are more likely to be actively interestedPOF is like looking for a date at your local dumpster. Walmart at 3 am would yield better results. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 04:39 PM |
| 8 | Unattractive women are more likely to be actively interestedOP literally admits he only wants to date women "more attractive" than himself, and doesn't understand why most of those more attractive women don't want to date him. Jesus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 04:38 PM |
| 0 | With male virginity rates near 30% in the USA for the 18-30 age range what impact will this have on society12% of men one 25 being virgins really isn't that high of a %. Nothing to call a "crisis," and the majority of those men will lose their virginity before 30. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 11:23 PM |
| 1 | One of the biggest reasons men will continue to struggle with women.It does though. People want what other people want. It might manifest different in men/women but it's not gender-exclusive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 09:11 PM |
| -1 | One of the biggest reasons men will continue to struggle with women.Men don't do this. Yes they do, it just manifests differently. Tons of men are attracted to overweight women, yet won't be seen in public with them or date them because they're not "desirable" enough to society. Men want to date women who will impress other men. If a man can "get the hottest woman," that's a testament to him as a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 09:05 PM |
| 8 | One of the biggest reasons men will continue to struggle with women.I think the issue here is, it's unlikely a guy is going to be super charismatic and a great time and also be completely inexperienced with women. Not saying it can't happen but, if a guy knows how to make a woman "feel things" naturally the odds he's also going to be a virgin are low. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 08:59 PM |
| 16 | The "80-20" rule claim is incorrectLMAOOOOO "The top men don't need to bribe women" You do know even famous dudes like Drake/Future, who constantly bang new women, are flying them out and paying for all their stuff? Your perspective of "top men" is so delusional and out of touch with what actually happens. Even super attractive guys usually have to be confident and charismatic, and offer value outside of the bedroom. The type of straight-forward, transactional style sex you're thinking happens is almost never happening in heteros… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 02:20 AM |
| 4 | Women open to hooking up, can you provide an example of what a man could/should say to you to make that happen?Because I don't need that much novelty, and prefer FWB's over ONS if it's casual. I still need some type of connection to feel attraction, even if we're not LTR compatible, and it's worked better for me when the guy could hang with my friends and I. If the guy just wants me to come over and bang him, and never wants to go out and do things with me, I get bored of the situation quickly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/22 03:47 PM |
| 22 | Women open to hooking up, can you provide an example of what a man could/should say to you to make that happen?Flirty banter. Doesn't put me on a pedestal. Can fit in with my social circle/is fun to be around. Being extroverted, charismatic, and confident. There's no specific thing a man can say to me; it's how he carries himself and how well we click together. But the whole "women aren't visual blahblahblah" is a crock of s*it. Yes, we are visual too. You don't have to be 100% my type, but you do need to meet my baseline. That for me means: well-dressed, nice hair, put-together, not overweight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/22 02:57 PM |
| 8 | The experience of being a woman online.It definitely is. Don't get me wrong, it's better to have both, but having a fit body type is the #1 way to attract men as a woman. Honestly, unless a woman's face is insanely below average, things like makeup and hair can significantly increase her attractiveness in the face. But a woman who's obese but has a gorgeous face will still have far less dating options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/22 12:21 PM |
| 86 | Dating women as a woman has made me more sympathetic to the dating woes of men.I'm bi and grew up with a lesbian mom, can confirm. My theory is, a lot of lesbian relationships start off as "U-Hauls" (basically, they're moving in right away, committing right away, enmeshing their lives together in a short time-frame)... and this causes them to not see the red flags till later on. From what I've seen with the gay male community, it's a big casual sex fest. And then if two men like each other enough, they'll date from there. The gay male community, from what I've seen, is muc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/22 10:32 PM |
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