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i did have it, I was extremely happy. i lost it recently (except for the part where i can get another one) yes it's external but i do know where my happiness is.
/r/seduction25/05/19 11:11 PM
1

It will make me happy knowing I could meet a skinny blonde gamer chick at any time. It would make me happy having a girl a flirting with me a couple times a week. The only reason I am sad now is because of the lack of those.
/r/seduction25/05/19 10:34 PM
1

Does this guy tell you to actually show sexual interest?
/r/seduction24/05/19 04:02 PM
1

Do you consider yourself experienced? 1 date in 40 approaches seems amazing.
/r/seduction24/05/19 03:59 PM
20

There isnt that much correlation... to a healthy dating life and all those things you mentioned.
/r/seduction22/05/19 07:33 PM
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A month ago with an 8/10. However I'm fucked emotionally because she's the first girl I ever got that was everything I wanted and we broke up a week ago
/r/seduction22/05/19 06:44 PM
1

Thats really good though, shes comfortable with you. Its not common for a girl to be open to that unless she was interested.
/r/seduction27/02/19 09:11 PM
1

If you're already meeting at each other's houses. Isn't it expected to be asked out?
/r/seduction27/02/19 08:12 PM
1

Me too. Only with a bag over my face cause my face is ugly.
/r/seduction27/02/19 07:02 PM
1

Do you think there are guys that succeed with mental problems and negative mindset?
/r/seduction27/02/19 06:58 PM
1

If you don't learn, can you consider yourself autistic?
/r/seduction27/02/19 06:56 PM
0

I mean yea i want an attractive girl. I've been bombered with I should go for ugly girls since i'm not attractive facially. Some women have even made comments that men that chase attractive women are pitiful because they are way out of their league. I also don't know what anyone means by confidence in that context.
/r/seduction25/02/19 08:44 PM
0

Yes there is more to life than dating but the lack of dating can cause severe mental and emotional issues as well as stunt your development. There is a reason only 3% of men are virigns by 30.
/r/seduction25/02/19 08:26 PM
1

Can average guys get good looking women? Ive been told it's very unlikely.
/r/seduction25/02/19 08:24 PM
11

Playing numbers is the only option for most guys.
/r/seduction06/02/19 06:14 PM
1

not into nerdy girls or looking for advice rn.
/r/seduction03/02/19 01:36 AM
1

i've tried all the methods. i'd get to know them, still no. i'd do what some girls complain about, nice guys can't be upfront. still got a no. Why would a girl even care if i approach another girl in the same class? she rejected me.
/r/seduction02/02/19 04:20 AM
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um....... that's exactly what's happened to me. only girls that are willing to go out with me irl are 300 lbs.
/r/seduction02/02/19 04:18 AM
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I spend my mornings going to computer science classes, then work in IT, then go to the gym for 2 hours, then come home and do homework for 2-3 hours and maybe get 2 games of league in before I repeat. I approach girls but lately haven't been feeling it since I feel like the types of girls I wanna date aren't into nerds. i've used harsher words on myself before, (what autistic fuck talks to 40 girls in class and can't even get 1 to hangout with)
/r/seduction02/02/19 03:21 AM
-2

nothing lol, I actually gave up. I've become too neurotic.
/r/seduction02/02/19 02:31 AM
26

Vent thread? I'm so bad with women. I genuinely feel bad talking to girls knowing they want someone better looking and more fun.
/r/seduction01/02/19 11:24 PM
5

Did you ask her for dating advice? Jealousy is a negative emotion. It will make a girl run far away from you.
/r/seduction31/01/19 09:02 PM
6

Yea. Thats awful advice.
/r/seduction31/01/19 08:59 PM
1

Sounds like too much work for an interaction I say that because. Your previous statement isn't entirely true. Its extremely common for guys to do hundreds of approaches and have zero success. Thats why most guys don't approach at all. I don't understand your sincere, confidence, pedestal comments. Not something you can get feedback on.
/r/seduction31/01/19 03:39 PM
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Na i'm good lol
/r/seduction31/01/19 02:50 PM
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No friends, guess i'm fucked
/r/seduction30/01/19 11:37 PM
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You provided no details.
/r/seduction30/01/19 07:51 PM
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Then? I can't really imagine why i get the results i do. I'm seriously considering i have high functioning autism because no one else as you said. Would approach 500 girls and have no results.
/r/seduction30/01/19 04:49 PM
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I don't even underatand why girls say that lol because after they say that they stop hanging out and talking to you even though you were already friends.
/r/seduction29/01/19 11:30 PM
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:(
/r/seduction29/01/19 10:02 PM
6

Im too autsitic for that. I have too much on my plate so i guess that makes me an asshole for approaching girls with zero charm or personality or looks. Curious why you say attitude is everything. Girls that hate all men have boyfriends.
/r/seduction29/01/19 05:53 PM
-1

Bullshit. But if its motivating other guys to stop being pussies. I take it back
/r/seduction29/01/19 05:33 PM
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Being extremely friendly isn't enough either. Hundreds of girls i've introfuced myself to think i am friendly. Any of them think i am dateable? No. Bring attractive is enough, anyone that says otherwise doesn't get that attractive men and women have people that want to date them.
/r/seduction29/01/19 05:25 PM
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Thats me. I don't have an outgoing personality.
/r/seduction29/01/19 04:19 PM
1

Because i'm too used to girls not wanting to talk to me.
/r/seduction26/01/19 03:30 PM
1

Thank you for your patience.
/r/seduction25/01/19 11:16 PM
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Also thank you for your patience
/r/seduction25/01/19 11:16 PM
1

Spiraling into my 30s pretty quickly with only rejections as well. I probably would watch it considering ive seen others. Tried it and nothing changed.
/r/seduction25/01/19 11:06 PM
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It probably won't. Buden of not being asked to be born and having simple problems but impossible solutions.
/r/seduction25/01/19 11:03 PM
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I don't see funny or kind women. What does that tell you about me? I see constant herd mentality, wanting fuckboy, only hanging out with their friends, usually never does anything for themself. Lol i told a girl i had fun hanging out with her after class, she hated me after I told her that. I can never win and these girls and they don't see me as a human either which is why i even feel the way I do. Actually i've never met a kind single women. I mean why would they be single? Guys are willing to…
/r/seduction25/01/19 09:39 PM
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How can women be searching SO hard yet dismiss everyone so easily? They're not searching, they know exactly where there love is. It's with the guy every girl is trying to get. Full stop they won't settle for less or an average guy. Even if they deserve an average guy because that's the effort that put into appearance, personality, etc. Even if i didn't think that way. Will my life change at all? Will girls suddenly be open to meeting me. I can bet you they won't. You're also talking to a gu that…
/r/seduction25/01/19 09:30 PM
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Different day same results. Just got another girl texting me back saying she has a boyfriend. Which was actually a surprise to me considering how much of a big deal being negative and antisocial is. Not for this girl. I feel like ive been rejected for so long that i wouldn't even know how to react if a girl was interested. I'd probably ghost her? I dont even know.
/r/seduction25/01/19 09:03 PM
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I can't fathom it. guys that are successful with women only see them for sex and fun. If they don't give sex, they're useless to them. I've never had abundance to have that mindset. How would They be treated differently? Seeing a girl vs a person?
/r/seduction25/01/19 08:58 PM
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But I didn't just fail once. I failed more than the successful guys. Thats my frustration. I think no one would even get upset at 1 rejection? But when ur hundreds in. It feels hopeless.
/r/seduction25/01/19 08:40 PM
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This is not the answer. I am disagreeing because i have met people off seduction in person. They had no clue I even felt like this on the inside. They thought it was really odd that in person i was nothing like i am online. Like you said, people don't wanna hang around miserable people. Imagine a guy like me constantly having to lift others. Yea thats how bad it is when i'm usually the most positive person in the interaction.
/r/seduction25/01/19 08:36 PM
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You got the wrong idea. I don't hate myself, i think other people are stupid as fuck for labelling me a loser, ugly, etc. Confident in yourself about what exactly? I can't comprehend how a girl can ever have low self esteem or confidence because they're constantly being complimented and people want to talk to them. Women look at me for what i am, some random nobody. A guy that tries too hard and isn't naturally charismatic, doesn't have people that want to get to know me because judgements on ap…
/r/seduction25/01/19 08:18 PM
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My frustration is at it's boiling point. I can feel the weight of my thoughts everyday. To the point where i actually can't go a day without being frustrated about something or the other. This never happened in my life before seduction. Maybe it's the unfairness and seeing all these guys get girls every weekend. Ive probably become even more shallow, not wanting guy friends because it doesn't help me talk to girls i like. Also not really running into these types of girls that want to meet a guy.
/r/seduction25/01/19 07:56 PM
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I like what i do but i don't like being labeled for shallow reasons. Ugly/loser/etc. All because i can't get women to develop interest in me.
/r/seduction25/01/19 07:46 PM
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What makes you a quality guy? I constantly get told i'm high quality on this sub, on other subs, etc. You think a girl i interact with gives a shit? Fuck no. You have to go out of your way to not come across as a loser in her eyes. And i hate that judgemental shit. Socially retarded girls don't struggle to find boyfriends, shes just not your type. Which is fine. You think the average guy would give up a girl that talks to him? No most go for the first girl they can get. Socially retarded or not.…
/r/seduction25/01/19 07:44 PM
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A toddlers brain isn't as punishing. They cannot process failure. Am adult brain will punish themselves for days, months, even years for a single failure. When you cannot process pain, discomfort,etc. Ofc its fucking easy. I'm afraid of wasting years and years and people saying the same shit. Bro u just didn't put enough effort. Did you even do 1 approach. All that, it's bullshit. It took me 3 years to get my body to the state it is in now. Yet there are guys out there that will go 2x a week to …
/r/seduction25/01/19 07:35 PM
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Improve yourself in what ways? I actually can't fathom a guy that has lots of friends, interests and hobbies, financial security, etc even wanting a girl. It makes zero sense to me. So obviously the guys that are lacking are the ones that want girls to add to their life.
/r/seduction25/01/19 07:19 PM
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Ok who here is born with high self confidence? A lot of people raise their self esteem through positive experiences. If you don't have positive experiences, you can't fix your self esteem. I hate being told i need to do more than what i already do. My plate is pretty fucking full as is. Telling me to be the most charsmatic guy in the world on top. Is what makes me hate this shit. I got a -50 on charisma. Its not 100% of men fuck women if they just talk to girls. Its 20/80. 80% of men have to fai…
/r/seduction25/01/19 06:29 PM
1

I'm similar to you op. Only I'm jacked now but it depends. Attractive people generally have people that want to talk to them. When you're ugly no one wants to talk to you. Its really hard to say if confidence is the issue, if i ever disclosed how many girls didn't even wanna talk to me in class. People would think i am a serial killer.
/r/seduction25/01/19 12:04 AM
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Neil strauss is pretty good looking imo, i don't understand how he is below average. Rsd Tyler used to look wayyyyy better. Lots of controversy around his game. he actually can't get girls? According to Todd and some other puas. I forgot what avery looks like. My issues is I have already mostly maxed out my looks but most girls I run into are immediately turned off by my looks. I also don't have an outgoing personality which is a must have for my race.
/r/seduction24/01/19 01:08 PM
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Confidence too vague imo. I think there are other things at play. Also how do we know the guy in question is truely below average? I never see any bad looking pua artists because looking good is more than half of it.
/r/seduction24/01/19 04:53 AM
3

No. Having dating options is #1 Girls want to chase you is #2 Sex is #3
/r/seduction24/01/19 03:41 AM
1

white guys have the highest social value, why would you want even more disadvantages?
/r/seduction24/01/19 02:53 AM
2

Lmao what would you do if you were indian instead of white?
/r/seduction24/01/19 02:01 AM
10

When you get attractive girls, you will see them as regular girls.
/r/seduction24/01/19 12:27 AM
0

Looks.
/r/seduction23/01/19 04:54 PM
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lol i used to then i found out girls do that shit and not give a fuck.
/r/seduction23/01/19 04:07 AM
1

People like attention.
/r/seduction23/01/19 12:33 AM
2

Thats common, whats uncommon is that i get so angry after rejections. Like Holy fuck, autistic, morbidly obese, ugly people find love and friends. Yet i can't get a study partner in my class.
/r/seduction22/01/19 11:50 PM
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The hardest thing for a women between 16-25 is to be single. I see tons of women posting on a certain sub how they have no social skills or friends but they always have a bf.
/r/seduction22/01/19 05:01 AM
3

Also dont be a dumbass and take weeks or months to ask her out. Ask her out a week maximum
/r/seduction21/01/19 11:43 PM
1

Attitude and belief system in that you always win. Machiavellian too.
/r/seduction21/01/19 06:12 PM
1

not trying to analyze it tbh, because yes there was laughter but they don't care.
/r/seduction21/01/19 12:48 AM
4

yea but when it's zero out of a hundred, you start to believe things like you're autistic or a loser. and believe me, I understand there are more people but when it's everyone you interact with, it's more than depressing.
/r/seduction20/01/19 08:18 PM
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Honestly i felt like shit after every single person i talked to in my class rejected my friendship. Still punishing myself for it a month later.
/r/seduction20/01/19 08:09 PM
1

how did you apply all the programs to your situations? i don't know how to apply any of it.
/r/seduction20/01/19 05:53 PM
0

What atttiude are you suppose to have? Ive met fuckboys that actually hate women and they seem to do well. Most of the founding pua's had a deep hatred for women as. E.g. Mark manson
/r/seduction20/01/19 12:17 AM
1

Well you have to talk to them. A lot of guys just want women to approach them. Doesn't happen even to models.
/r/seduction19/01/19 12:15 AM
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Provided you are still socially outgoing and meeting people.
/r/seduction18/01/19 06:40 PM
4

Still figuring this out. Standard, dont take it personally, fuck another girl, etc.
/r/seduction18/01/19 06:09 PM
1

The term for getting one's life together usually means. Lives alone, financially stable, has friends, has hobbies, no mental issues such as anxiety, insecurities,etc. Which basically boils down to most guys in their 20s are undateable because they don't have That shit until their 30s.
/r/seduction18/01/19 04:39 PM
4

idk lol, easier for me and some other guys I know.
/r/seduction18/01/19 01:08 AM
-7

computer programmer.
/r/seduction18/01/19 12:58 AM
5

well it depends, getting sex from the hot, socially out going type of college girls is indeed harder than getting a 6 figure income. now if you're talking about prostitution, or sleeping with fat chicks then obviously, sex is easier.
/r/seduction18/01/19 12:47 AM
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1)I actually go 5-7 days a week for 2 hours. 2)My clothes are new. 3)iv'e never watched tv. I read books and play video games. 4) i actually dont have confidence because nonsyop rejections from every girl. 5)never had those issues when communicating with girls. Just massive lack of interest on their end. You're right in your last statement. I mean what else is there really to do when you do nearly every advice given and it still doesn't work out. I actually reverted back to social isolation afte…
/r/seduction17/01/19 11:47 PM
1

What do you mean? Girls know very early on how attractive they are because of how much attention they get through social media, irl, etc. For a guy its very ambigious especially if you're average looking.
/r/seduction17/01/19 11:28 PM
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Why don't I see this in person? Why doesn't the fact that i am strong even register to girls?
/r/seduction17/01/19 11:26 PM
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That's not necessarily true. What about college guys? Hippies? Criminals? They def don't have their shit together and women still want them. The idea of a women needing someone stable turns me off anyways. Almost like she doesn't like you for you.
/r/seduction17/01/19 10:19 PM
1

Maybe she is right? Do you dick around in the gym or?
/r/seduction17/01/19 10:11 PM
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I don't understand what your comment has to do with women.
/r/seduction17/01/19 09:45 PM
4

I can relate. I've approached hundreds as well and never gotten any girls interested in hanging out. What gets me down is a lot of rejections at school. I used to think most guys in school are pussies cause they're anti-social. Overweight, etc. But after asking out girls. Guess none of that matters a whole lot. Girls don't really wanna follow if I lead, girls don't wanna flirt back if i start, and most of the nice girls that are also attractive also taken.
/r/seduction17/01/19 07:29 PM
2

Wrong sub
/r/seduction17/01/19 06:42 PM
0

Hardly anyone is going to the gym here and most these girls are dating soyboy lookin ass dudes. Is your advice really true?
/r/seduction17/01/19 06:38 PM
1

People actually start convos to complain? Thats really weird.
/r/seduction17/01/19 06:26 PM
1

I had one of my coworkers say the same thing. That dating is impossible in ur 20s but you'll get more girls inbyour 30s to makeup for it. Which sucks because the girls you like are dating around, your friends are dating around and you're just on your grinding wondering if you should even date at all.
/r/seduction17/01/19 06:19 PM
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You can't be confident and socially outgoing if you're ugly/unattractive. Also girls know their level of attractiveness while there is no way for men to know theirs.
/r/seduction17/01/19 06:14 PM
2

So be socially outgoing?
/r/seduction17/01/19 06:08 PM
6

Lol i wish id run into girls that nice.
/r/seduction16/01/19 06:28 PM
3

Social circle game is even more important after college.
/r/seduction16/01/19 05:29 PM
2

Are you a positive person?
/r/seduction15/01/19 09:39 PM
2

Oh. I'm in that boat too, do you think it's real though? Like would you ever tell people you're invisible to women?
/r/seduction14/01/19 07:11 PM
2

What makes you say that?
/r/seduction14/01/19 06:57 PM
1

I didnt watch the video yet. Video games for me is basically a replacement for my failure of a social life. Today was the day i realized that because i would see all the girls i approached hanging out with friends at the malls or restraunts but I feel like being even more antisocial cause i made no friends.
/r/seduction13/01/19 06:40 AM
1

Sorry I'm negative. Is that really true? How come girls dont respond better to guys approaching them irl. Especially guys that aren't douchebags and actually try to get to know them?
/r/seduction13/01/19 06:36 AM
1

What do you mean by hit outrageous numbers? Like approaches?
/r/seduction13/01/19 06:32 AM
0

I have already seen that. So basically i am confident but still no success.
/r/seduction12/01/19 04:47 AM
1

They take action? no way. I legit asked my friend if he would talk to girls for a chance with a hot girl and he said no way. He would rather marry his average looks average, personality gf. I feel like most guys would struggle to go up to a girl if I asked them to.
/r/seduction12/01/19 04:29 AM
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Lol yea. There was this hot girl that told me she had no friends, nice and really shy. Ofc she had a boyfriend. Don't even know why i ratuonalized she would be single.
/r/seduction12/01/19 04:21 AM
1

yea... i've talked to way too many girls to have gotten nothing.
/r/seduction12/01/19 03:21 AM
1

So whats wrong with me exactly that all that stuff shows up as unattractive confidence
/r/seduction12/01/19 01:12 AM
2

Women have flaws but want the perfect guy? I would never catch a women admitting she has flaws. We talk about value in a subjective sense. I promise you any value you guys would come up with in why a guy is getting the girl. The guy that isn't getting the girl has the same value barring exceptions. Its the women that decides if she wants to see it or not. Thats why i say some women see me as worthless even tho i have much higher value than they think. I also dont feel like I have a head start. I…
/r/seduction11/01/19 11:58 PM
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But really they're not? They're defintely not confident. They take months to ask out a girl. Wouldnt even talk to more than 3 girls a year. Would never talk to a random girl. Humor is subjective all though its really easy to be funny with someone once you know them? The only value I can think is they're not a killer but thats basically every guy.
/r/seduction11/01/19 11:36 PM
0

I dont understand what confidence is. Can I talk to a random girl? Yes. Can i ask her out? Yes. But where does confidence go?
/r/seduction11/01/19 11:32 PM
0

That's not what i am getting at. I'm trying to put things together in my brain. Why everyone tells me everyone is open minded and the issue is all me but i never meet these people i'm suppose to meet irl. I have met of girls that think I'm funny but also dont give a shit if i'm funny? Then there are girls that think I'm a loser for no reason other than maybe i am not in any of the frats? I dont even know
/r/seduction11/01/19 11:28 PM
1

What does that mean? Individual value such as?
/r/seduction11/01/19 11:17 PM
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And whats making me viewed as worthless compared to guys that are as i mentioned?
/r/seduction11/01/19 11:16 PM
1

It's not really a jab at the guy the girl is dating. Its just super unbelieveable that every guy is this spontanious, hot, confident, relentlessly positive. So what gives?
/r/seduction11/01/19 11:14 PM
0

Ok then what is the major factor?
/r/seduction11/01/19 11:11 PM
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No i mean they quite literally have the most average personality possible. Not funny, not confident, plagued by lots of fear. They're not even all that positive. The kind of value they want every guy has.
/r/seduction11/01/19 10:41 PM
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My honest frustration is from why is it so hard for me but seems so easy for everyone else. Maybe the truth is that it's hard for everyone, even girls. Idk i just expected to find someone that liked me but whatever.
/r/seduction11/01/19 10:27 PM
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My experience is limited with girls but the ones i met seem to be in a relationship for the sake of having a boyfriend. It had nothing to do with love, passion, etc. But they're young and have someone to talk to. Doesn't even seem like they're having sex with the dude. I actually hard agree with your last point. Everything I read applies very little to what seems to be going on. I don't see girls chasing the hottest guys, I don't see the spontanious confident dude that can approach getting girls…
/r/seduction11/01/19 10:03 PM
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I dont understand this personality thing? Most guys aren't that interesting but they will still end up with a girl.
/r/seduction11/01/19 09:47 PM
1

What makes me come across as needy and clingy?
/r/seduction11/01/19 08:03 PM
1

I told her to let me know next time she has 10 minutes free and we can go. I know i'm missing something cause i've only given you two examples but i actuslly talked to way more girls even gotten their contacts but something odd happening everytime. Like i guess i'm too nice? Where they can have a convo with me but anything more makes the girl ghost me.
/r/seduction11/01/19 07:56 PM
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Actually i wasn't pushy at all. She would just always wanna talk to me and snap me. Actually just yestersay i stopped talking to her at all and she hasn't said anything since. Like i really had the urge to tell her, our convos our boring unless there is flirting involved. ( i just recalled her saying I was really nice and approachable and I disagreed with her saying nice is bad, she tells me that all friends and her would only want a nice guy. I really dont believe her) I feel like i deserve to …
/r/seduction11/01/19 07:50 PM
1

Also a second situation was i met this one girl who seemed open minded and pretty nice. Like she would snap streak with me everyday, id hangout for a bit after class then when I went to hug her, she told me her boyfriend gets jealous when guys hug her. I stopped flirting and stuff with her but i'd still try to ask her to hangout. I invited her to kbbq with friends, she was busy, I invited her to a club, she was busy, i invited her to coffee after finals, she was busy, i said lets go christmas sh…
/r/seduction11/01/19 07:17 PM
1

The last girl i asked out, i had talked to at the start of the semester and we talked walking to her dorm but never talked again until finals week. I asked what if she ever goes anywhere and she said no car. I told her she could come with me and we could get something to eat sometime. She said ok. Gives me her number. I ask her to come with me to Starbucks after our final. She said she couldn't then. Blocked me a few days later. Since i had that interaction with her, i get the nagging feeling th…
/r/seduction11/01/19 07:10 PM
1

I definitely expressed interest. So i'm not sure what it is about me, I would have thought at least one would have been my friend if none of them wanted to date. School starts again in a week. Should I just be sexual from the start?
/r/seduction11/01/19 06:56 PM
1

Man.. I've actually been super depressed lately cause I talked to like 40 girls in my classes and none of them showed interest in me. My first reaction was to think i'm not popular or cool enough.
/r/seduction11/01/19 06:42 PM
1

What the fuck lmao. There has to be more to that. A lot of girls were turned off from even having any guy try talking to them on my campus.
/r/seduction10/01/19 07:08 PM
2

Impossible, u have to put yourself out there.
/r/seduction08/01/19 09:38 PM
2

just know that most girls i've met are a 180 of what you're saying, they get disgusted when certain guys try to talk to them, one even poured her drink on my friend. They show complete disinterest when having conversations and if they do try to converse it's usually fake because they ghost after giving phone number or make endless excuses. A lot of insecurities have a valid reason behind them. I can't even pretend i'm talking to a nice girl that will take me seriously anymore because they don't …
/r/seduction08/01/19 03:33 PM
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LOL i've never been negative in person, I let girls be negative in front of me but IDC because you can't change someone else. yes i can hold a conversation, I don't know anything about connecting on an emotional level, yes she can feel good emotions but doesn't give a fuck. girls that have shared interests and passions don;t like it when i try to talk to them. I cannot make friends with women, it's excuses, ghosting, leave on read whenever i try to invite them to do something. I think it's impos…
/r/seduction08/01/19 03:17 PM
1

your reply makes my blood boil, what am i suppose to do? force a gun to their head and tell them to be my friend? Most of the girls i met this year have established social circles and refuse to make friends outside of it. Why would anyone want to be friends with someone that clearly doesn't wanna be friends if they can't even put any effort.
/r/seduction08/01/19 03:10 PM
1

friends no, phone numbers of people that don't wanna hang out, about 40-50 of them.
/r/seduction08/01/19 06:49 AM
1

5 but i'm ditching them all, 2 of them have gf or married even tho none of them are good socially or do anything related to alpha male stuff, makes me envious sometimes but then again i'm not interested in the girls they date so I have that going for me. the other 3 are similar situation as me and quit trying at everything. The difference is I tried, I make pretty good money, in engineering school, and I can be social with girls I like.
/r/seduction08/01/19 06:47 AM
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yea i didn't sit on reddit all day. still didn't change much, except maybe added more frustration.
/r/seduction08/01/19 06:14 AM
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zero but i'm not going to force women to be my friend, they can keep ignoring me, never replying to messages, making excuses to do stuff.
/r/seduction08/01/19 06:12 AM
2

already did that for 5 years, not tryna be 30+ for my first gf, that's just shameful.
/r/seduction08/01/19 06:01 AM
1

ok a value of mine is being physically active. i work out 2 hours 7 days a week. I still get the you're a loser vibe from majority of women I meet even if they are losers themselves. (no job, average grades, no hobbies)
/r/seduction08/01/19 04:38 AM
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Catch 22, The only thing i'm unhappy about is being undesirable to women. I can't relate to most women experiences because i'm very jealous of how easy it is to make friends + get lovers for vast majority of women. I have a very terrible mental state because if there was a girl that put the same effort into fashion, similar introversion but willing to be open minded once and a while, had an overall decently body, she would not suffer the same issues in dating like I do. I'm basically a parrot at…
/r/seduction08/01/19 04:36 AM
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how do you expect any man to be confident? we live in a shit on men era. literally girls at my campus can argue with professors and other students about how shitty all men and men can't say anything back. How do you think our self esteem ever rises with constant men bashing everywhere and being told you're not enough unless you are tall, 6 figures, popular with the ladies. Serious question how do you and other attractive women just expect men to be confident out of their ass? from a life of only…
/r/seduction08/01/19 04:13 AM
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I was moreso annoyed that girls would pick me for my personalty. It means i had to constantly work on it and that takes extreme effort and attention to detail. Whereas looking hot is easy AF. also the girls that valued my personality also didn't value their looks as much either so you can quickly see the type of girls that say they prefer personality can only do so because they don't have the looks. Personality to me also doesn't seem that easy to change, how can a nice guy that is frustrated by…
/r/seduction08/01/19 04:03 AM
1

the reason some guys are really good at pickup is that they know that being hot isn't a value and hot girls tend to only take away value. While i understand it, I cannot apply that view to my world belief system.
/r/seduction08/01/19 04:01 AM
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ok but they also say do X and X and ur in the top 1% of males, do i feel like it? fuck no when the overweight nerdy girl decides to think i'm not good enough for her.
/r/seduction08/01/19 03:12 AM
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within 3 -7 days
/r/seduction08/01/19 02:49 AM
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the thing that annoys me is none of this applies to girls, they don't need confidence to get friends or guys. and sure as hell don't have to respect anyone, but it's a death sentence as a guy i guess.
/r/seduction08/01/19 02:33 AM
1

i work out 7 days a week. so i have the biceps and pecs. never helped my self esteem or confidence.
/r/seduction08/01/19 02:01 AM
1

where would i honestly even start? I can do all the introspection in the world and I can't find an answer, get tattoos? join a gang? i don't even know what makes someone cool other than they are already have people that they think are popular.
/r/seduction08/01/19 01:53 AM
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No the key is to be a cool guy. No one gave a fuck when i'd invite them out to bars and places.
/r/seduction08/01/19 01:36 AM
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How did you fix your mental state? I'm honestly pissed off every day that girls hate me because i wasn't born extroverted, popular, or hot.
/r/seduction08/01/19 01:13 AM
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I feel the same way. Everything is fucked if you didnt grow up properly in your teens. ( no good social circle, no female attention)
/r/seduction08/01/19 01:06 AM
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And knowing all that doesnt mean anything? It's not going to change her behavior, they're still going to play games, treat you like you ain't shit. Their confodence doesn't even matter in the end.
/r/seduction08/01/19 01:02 AM
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Thats not a shit test
/r/seduction07/01/19 11:28 PM
1

She doesnt tell you to fuck off. Thats literally it. At the same time phone numbers don't mean anything, instadates are better.
/r/seduction07/01/19 11:11 PM
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No where do i mention personality. This isnt personality. Social circle also has zero relevence in both things i mentioned.
/r/seduction07/01/19 10:53 PM
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If she wants attention from people. Whats with the leaving on read, or making excuses to avoid hanging out in person. I'm trying hard to understand but it doesn't make sense to me.
/r/seduction07/01/19 08:47 PM
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But why aren't girls confident? I was always under the impression girls really can't have low self esteem because people want to be their friends constantly or date them. As a guy, you're basically branded a loser until you prove them wrong. Also this was a popular girl so i still don't believe anything she ever told me.
/r/seduction07/01/19 07:54 PM
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How do you know a girl is confident? I struck out with a girl that had less confidence than me but the only way i knew was through her admitting it.
/r/seduction07/01/19 07:30 PM
1

I just view at as a women's way of gaming a guy. They are seeing your reactions/behaviors. Like a test. I'm not saying they are liars but a lot of women do go off feelings and as we all know feelings change over time, so does memories of certain events which can be influenced by emotions. Its a red flag for me. If any girl mentions being raped, she's not going to br mentally together.
/r/seduction07/01/19 07:25 PM
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They wouldn't bring this stuff up to a bad boy. They view you as a provider i guess? I didn't see any mention of long term or short term so i assume you went for long term with all these girls.
/r/seduction07/01/19 06:50 PM
1

No amount of confidence will change the girl's opinion from unfuckable to fuckable.
/r/seduction07/01/19 06:37 PM
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Girls like bad boys.
/r/seduction07/01/19 06:24 PM
2

No attractive girl has ever told me i am good looking. So there is that while nearly every female friend has had options and doesn't question their attractiveness.
/r/seduction07/01/19 06:18 PM
1

Lmao you think he will get rejected? She probably wont reject him if hes being honest. Girls dont usually behave like that around guys they are not into.
/r/seduction06/01/19 02:45 PM
1

I used to get extremely hot and sweat when talking to a girl. It made me really confortable and made it harder to talk.
/r/seduction04/01/19 08:49 PM
1

If we rating dudes. Can I get a rate?
/r/seduction04/01/19 05:33 AM
2

Lmao. 99% of men arent doing this, so you get to slay every girl in walking distance if you apply as much of this as you can.
/r/seduction04/01/19 05:29 AM
1

Man I wish it was that simple.
/r/seduction04/01/19 05:26 AM
1

Um do you take care of your hair and skin? Girls think i am 5 years younger than i really am. Even had 17 year old freshman want my snap
/r/seduction03/01/19 05:58 AM
1

Yea a lot of girls are like this, not just beautiful ones.
/r/seduction02/01/19 03:56 PM
4

No matter what u do it will work. Ur already preselected. U cna even go up and say ur shy
/r/seduction15/12/18 04:43 AM
1

I would enjoy more people's experiences will mall approaching. I do it sometimes and no success
/r/seduction15/12/18 04:22 AM
1

Lucky guy. Yea i dont run into those types of girls so Idk.
/r/seduction14/12/18 09:33 PM
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Imo no. Girls have their own issues and find it extremely disgusting when you mention your problems. It kills any attraction they had for you and you'll just be ghosted.
/r/seduction14/12/18 08:11 PM
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It doesnt matter what u say. Its about who you are.
/r/seduction14/12/18 08:10 PM
1

Why is pickup so vague in terms of what you actually need to do? Aside from grooming, approaching, being comfortable. What other skills do you get out of pickup?
/r/seduction14/12/18 04:02 PM
1

You mastered pickup in 9 months?
/r/seduction14/12/18 02:42 PM
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Lol no she won't. The best thing to do is get the hint that she doesn't like you. I had a girl do this to me recently. Stopped waving whenever we saw each other, doesn't sit with me anymore. Just forget it, unless you really wanna be a bigger loser since you can't hang out with other girls.
/r/seduction14/12/18 02:40 PM
1

Same lol. Girls worse than me reject me
/r/seduction14/12/18 02:38 PM
1

You're 1 guy in her hundreds of matches, i don't find online dating remotely appealing since you'll likely have 1 or 2 options while competing against hundreds. Ive seen my ex's matches and she wasn't even a hot girl with good pictures.
/r/seduction13/12/18 09:54 PM
1

To be fair, i'm not socially awkward and I can't make friends either. Its tough getting people to commit to hanging out.
/r/seduction13/12/18 09:51 PM
1

Why is getting rejected on a dating app a big deal?
/r/seduction13/12/18 09:50 PM
1

I honestly wonder what advice people give to girls with the same issue. Cause for guys its the arbitrary be someone you're not. Be something a girl gets horny over. Ridiculous that you have fit a very narrow definition of a real man to stop getting judged as a loser.
/r/seduction13/12/18 08:12 PM
1

What to do. If you already do all that and still nothing? I think its insane to wait 5 years + for something girls can get any weekend 😔
/r/seduction13/12/18 07:55 PM
2

I think you'll do very well dude. Just keep doing what you are doing. It seems to be working.
/r/seduction13/12/18 05:58 AM
1

I actually never worried about it until some other guys fromnthe same race bring it up. Also I've been rejected by asian girls for being dark skinned.
/r/seduction12/12/18 07:10 PM
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I'm not saying its 100% because of my race but i think racial minorities need much better, specific game since they're more likely to be seen as dangerous. I'm average height, Indian, and I'm lean muscular. I can also hold conversations. So i dont even know.
/r/seduction12/12/18 07:07 PM
2

Lol that just makes me feel worse since I can't get results doing the same thing. Are you white? Sorry to bring up race but I'm just curious as to whats different.
/r/seduction12/12/18 06:31 PM
1

Maybe aspergers and 5'3 are pluses bro. I honestly dont know what to say, seems like you put less effort into your interactions too.
/r/seduction12/12/18 06:30 PM
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3/12 is pretty chad. I'm 0/40 from my school. I have some follow up questions. Do you game these girls? Do you flirt with them? How long do you know them before asking them out?
/r/seduction12/12/18 03:18 PM
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365 numbers is easy once you get the first 10. Why set such a goal? Just go for 10 Girls that actually reply, then 10 girls that flirt with you. 365 numbers will dissappoint you long term.
/r/seduction12/12/18 03:15 PM
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Lmao. I love ur responses btw. These guys are talking out their ass, have an interesting life to you. People will tell you the same cookie cutter hobbies. Traveling, play music, meditation, gym, own your own business. Just do whatever you wanna do and be passionate about it. So you can talk about it to others.
/r/seduction12/12/18 02:10 AM
5

so i'm that guy but still shit with attracting girls. specifically hotter girls.
/r/seduction11/12/18 10:44 PM
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That study imo is also a reflection of irl. Even in high school, college. The stats would be very similar. I'm not even a bad looking dude but guys i talk to have similar experience of girls not wanting to show interest in them. Doesn't matter the confidence. It takes extreme confidence to talk to a random girl. You never know how rude she will be. Some guys don't even talk to more than 3 girls in their class. I find a lot of girls really close minded. If ur not the fuckboy, adventurous type. Th…
/r/seduction11/12/18 07:25 PM
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I disagree with your point about getting rejected at the bar. How would you even know if you're incomptable if you don't even get a chance to talk? Also how does it make sense at all, that women find 80% of all men unattractive and men find 50% of all women attractive. How is it men's fault for women's pickiness in what they find atttactive?
/r/seduction11/12/18 06:26 PM
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Thats the thing... I feel like Every pua youtuber has a gimmick going on. I mean they charge 2k+ for 3 day bootcamps and it probably wouldn't cost them much to pay a girl to read scripted lines back.
/r/seduction08/12/18 05:34 PM
1

How do you calculate what your numerical attractiveness is?
/r/seduction08/12/18 05:17 PM
1

Is jmulv considered a good looking pua?
/r/seduction08/12/18 05:04 PM
2

From my expierence girls between 18-22 date within their age range while 23+ date anyone.
/r/seduction08/12/18 04:47 PM
1

washington d.c
/r/seduction08/12/18 01:09 AM
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Because of family reasons. Not because they would actually prefer to date Indian guys. Both my sisters have never dated an indian guy because my family isn't conservative. Every asian girl I've met chased asian guys too. Its just a bias that makes it hard to see the truth.
/r/seduction07/12/18 11:16 PM
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It would be better to admit your bias than to seek constant approval of your beliefs because it will get you nowhere. I'll admit my bias for you now. I think indian dudes are fucked in dating, I mean the darker kind. I can go months without seeing a dark Indian with a white girl. But thats my bias.
/r/seduction07/12/18 10:52 PM
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I'm Indian so I dont really hold any bias. I see far more asian girls with asian guys than i do of WFAM or AFWM.
/r/seduction07/12/18 10:05 PM
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100 obstacles in and i'm envious of people that succeed after 3 or 4 tries 😔
/r/seduction05/12/18 04:27 PM
1

Um bro. 5 girls in 8 months is pretty fucking good. I hit up 100 girls at my school and zero interest.
/r/seduction05/12/18 04:16 PM
1

Bruh.. I'm 5'7. 150 lbs and people still think i'm skinny or weak. https://puu.sh/CaooI/6de2d0c4f2.png
/r/seduction04/12/18 05:12 PM
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Lol I once replied because i want to get to know you. She started running away. Girls are weird.
/r/seduction04/12/18 05:07 PM
1

Hi OP. I have this issue of girls subconsciously knowing I am bad at game so they tend to ignore me, look at me weird, show disinterest after i thought we had already gotten along. Ecample 1) I was hanging out with this girl a lot for 2 months Nearly 3 hours before, during and after class. So i asked her out and she rejected saying she has a boyfriend. So i started talking to other girls in the same class. She watches me talk to other girls. I told her i dont feel the same when talking to other …
/r/seduction04/12/18 04:56 PM
1

How do you handle conversations? Do you steer it sexually?
/r/seduction02/12/18 05:02 PM
2

My experience doesnt match yours. I've done 500 approaches and very few numbers with no dates. I think it depends on your level of game.
/r/seduction20/09/18 08:04 PM
1

Girls use i'm dating someone as a shit test. Statistics show more than 50% are single.
/r/seduction20/09/18 07:33 PM
1

I know someone better looking than him and he doesnt close 7-8 out of 10 girls.
/r/seduction18/09/18 09:08 PM
1

I will pm u a guy and u tell me if he is male model looking? I dont really think so.
/r/seduction18/09/18 08:56 PM
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I dont think the two are related. I still approach and fap daily. While having massive AA before.
/r/seduction18/09/18 08:35 PM
2

This is wrong. Most girls dont rejecct you based on physical attraction. Its a million other factors that even include her mood at the time.
/r/seduction18/09/18 08:34 PM
1

Curious about someone actually responding to this. I will add my 2 cents. While I do believe game is actually about behavior and attitude. It is also very hard to rewire all your experiences to be able to build confidence. Guys that are good with women are not scared of rejection, flirting, openly sexual, being physical. And maybe that is all game is... Its learning to not be afraid. I know some girls do want looks but that's not the majority considering there are guys that are able to run numbe…
/r/seduction18/09/18 07:25 PM
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Curious about someone actually responding to this. I will add my 2 cents. While I do believe game is actually about behavior and attitude. It is also very hard to rewire all your experiences to be able to build confidence. Guys that are good eith women are not scared of rejection, flirting, openly sexual, being physical. And maybe that is all game is... Its learning to not be afraid.
/r/seduction18/09/18 07:25 PM
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Curious about someone actually responding to this. I will add my 2 cents. While I do believe game is actually about behavior and attitude. It is also very hard to rewire all your experiences to be able to build confidence. Guys that are good eith women are not scared of rejection, flirting, openly sexual, being physical. And maybe that is all game is... Its learning to not be afraid.
/r/seduction18/09/18 07:25 PM
1

i'm introverted and never danced before. going to nightclubs has allowed me to own up to some of my fears. I've held hands and even kissed some. Sure i can't pull but i'm working on it.
/r/seduction07/06/18 05:06 PM
3

There was another post on here where a guy talked about his approach at a shopping mall. Apperently he was so good the girl didn't even think it was an approach. I guess what matters is how they feel.
/r/seduction06/06/18 08:30 PM
6

Someone else wrote it on another thread and I wish I saved it. Women absolutely adore the guys that are the result of pickup yet they have no clue where it even begins.
/r/seduction06/06/18 08:23 PM
7

That's cause some people genuinely believe women will approch you because it happens to them.
/r/seduction06/06/18 08:21 PM
2

I mean it took me 4 weeks of going out with no results before I had any girl show interest. It's starting to feel like a skill for sure with a learning curve and process.
/r/seduction06/06/18 08:12 PM
1

You think it'll work if I ask for pics to put on Instagram? Haha
/r/seduction06/06/18 04:40 PM
1

Girls that are high quality such as have hobbies, attractive, fit, lots of friends and mentally stable are extremely rare on Reddit.
/r/seduction06/06/18 04:02 PM
3

You got a number just for introducing your name and what you do for work....?
/r/seduction06/06/18 03:17 PM
1

Girls on Reddit typically fall under a certain category though.
/r/seduction06/06/18 02:28 PM
1

Contradiction contradiction contradiction. desensitizing yourself if the most important aspect of pick up. So many mid was divorced dudes got closets of 20 year old chicks lol. Even this sub pushes that message
/r/seduction05/06/18 06:36 PM
2

i think being introverted and sensitive is really bad traits for a guy. sure you could go for the unicorn that would deal with your shit but good luck finding that. The point is people want someone better than them.
/r/seduction05/06/18 04:51 PM
13

How many approaches should you normally do a day?
/r/seduction05/06/18 01:36 PM
7

you didn't approach any girls?
/r/seduction05/06/18 03:43 AM
1

fuck them lol. their time isn't worth 2500 bucks.
/r/seduction02/06/18 07:33 PM
2

be 10/10 model, don't listen to girls advice about approaching unless you wanna lose.
/r/seduction02/06/18 07:30 PM
1

i don't consider them experienced people, it's their job. I don't want help from a salesman, i want help from a genuinely friendly dude.
/r/seduction02/06/18 07:18 PM
1

i wish more experienced people would help. it really sucks having 2-3 beginners going out and our mentality goes to shit after a night of all rejections and no feedback.
/r/seduction02/06/18 07:10 PM
3

i roll my eyes at this comment, have you been to a bar or club? girls don't wanna meet guys there either. They just wanna dance with their friends. It's probably better to stop caring otherwise you're in for a bad time.
/r/seduction02/06/18 07:04 PM
5

that's not that bad.
/r/seduction02/06/18 12:07 AM
2

If they wanted to settle down, they wouldn't even pursue anything with you. Stop caring about what they say and look at what they do.
/r/seduction01/06/18 08:11 PM
1

Why do you care so much? Women can have children in their 30s and 40s. You think if they date someone else they won't run into an asshole that would one day divorce them and make them a single mother. Just stop thinking about that stuff. Its pointless.
/r/seduction01/06/18 07:32 PM
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I can tell you my story. I was on the other side. I legit talked to zero women in 5 years and then I met her and we got along perfectly. Everything was good and we were saying we'd always be happy together and we were soulmates. Then she ended it. In the end I lost everything even my best friend, so no don't feel bad. The one doesn't exist and your relationship won't always work out with them, no matter how hard they will convince you. Just keep caring about yourself first because I promise you,…
/r/seduction01/06/18 06:48 PM
1

I don't even think that's him honestly. He goes around asking if hes ugly. Maybe shows his friend the negative comments if someone posts them.
/r/seduction01/06/18 01:18 PM
2

I am a pretty chill dude. I feel comfortable but I'm still scared. I actually just watched a dude do a horrible approach and I felt had for the girls so I told them they were being too nice. It looked really awkward and there is nothing wrong with saying no thanks.
/r/seduction31/05/18 09:21 PM
1

I know this probably isn't what would be expected after watching the video. Isn't it weird how patient we have to be with girls and impress them but also not feel anything if you get ignored or rejected?
/r/seduction30/05/18 08:11 PM
1

Lol.... Ugly girls are pickier. In my experience.
/r/seduction30/05/18 02:25 PM
1

i mean i get your point but in the end i didn't talk to women for 10 years because of girls complaining and online dating being a cesspool for guys that aren't attractive. I don't think it had to do with negative self talk because i still tried. I would still ask out a girl maybe once a year in my school years just to be rejected. i've never had anyone call me attractive yet, so i'm hoping for that too after being here. also your first point lol. girls get swarmed by guys, even obese girls get s…
/r/seduction30/05/18 03:16 AM
5

that experience is incredibly rare. I would go out to eat every weekend for 4 years with 3 other guy friends on Saturdays and never see a pair of girls come near us or look at us.
/r/seduction30/05/18 02:52 AM
2

the idea of leagues in my mind mostly came from past experiences, girls calling dudes ugly or posting stuff like we hate when guys talk to us, makes guys that never got attention from women to further stay away from women.
/r/seduction30/05/18 02:51 AM
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hmmm then what's with the unattractive friend acting rude sometimes when you approach the one you like.
/r/seduction29/05/18 08:47 PM
2

1
/r/seduction29/05/18 07:39 PM
1

Yikes haha. U got it better than some dudes and u still complain
/r/seduction29/05/18 05:49 PM
9

Haha I wish shit like that would happen to me.
/r/seduction29/05/18 05:45 PM
1

you've fucked yourself up my dude. i've never had a women remotely look in my way and you feel unworthy? just think about that
/r/seduction29/05/18 04:30 AM
1

story sounds a little suspect. the attractive, most confident guys aren't pulling girls at my clubs, but they do get a conversation and dance next to girls. idk seems like girls either come in groups of 4 or with their boyfriend and certainly not looking to meet other guys.
/r/seduction29/05/18 03:43 AM
2

i too have noticed younger women seem to go up to dudes that look mid 30s or 40s. I'm assuming these guys look more experienced and have a lot more social skills + traveling and all that than an average guy in his 20's that's still working on himself.
/r/seduction28/05/18 01:57 AM
2

are you not horny? i'm the opposite lol. i can kiss, hold hands, do anything physical but my approaches are ass. just be comfortable touching a girl. it's not as creepy as the world makes it out to be, girls love that shit.
/r/seduction27/05/18 01:50 AM
1

ahaha my first approach was boss as fuck, zero hesitation when i saw her and conversation went easy but after she rejected i ended up giving up on approaching other girls.
/r/seduction27/05/18 01:49 AM
3

That's because the guys aren't doing it right... A lot of dudes have success. I'd have success too, you say date but it's more like adventure if you've got nothing going on. I almost got one today but she had to go meet her friend.
/r/seduction27/05/18 12:40 AM
12

picking up girls is fun, it's clearly not fun for you.
/r/seduction26/05/18 09:05 PM
1

can you talk to guys with confidence? I can talk to older people and other guys already because i don't care about pursuing more with them but with a girl, i want her to like me.
/r/seduction26/05/18 08:41 PM
2

but how do i approach girls at a mall? there is nothing about their body language that tells me they'd even want me approaching them. I actually had some success last night at a club. So i'm improving but my day game is pretty awful.
/r/seduction26/05/18 07:36 PM
1

don't read stuff, it'll make your anxiety worse. just go and do it. once you do it, it'll get easier because you're learning to interact and go back and forth, while reading material means you're just trying to memorize shit.
/r/seduction26/05/18 07:24 PM
4

i honestly can't approach girls at the mall, I don't know if it's just me but i feel like girls at the mall get approached all the time so they don't wanna talk. It's also hard to come up with what to say when i do see a girl. Good luck dude.
/r/seduction26/05/18 07:21 PM
1

so much humble brag lol. i think there are a lot of guys that would benefit esteem wise from a girl liking them.
/r/seduction23/05/18 11:41 PM
8

you're bad at the game cause you didn't expose yourself. you hid behind a screen and let girls pick you based on your picture and nothing else.
/r/seduction22/05/18 10:36 PM
1

do you approach irl or use tinder?
/r/seduction22/05/18 10:32 PM
2

that post history man, i've seen u make these posts a few weeks ago too. no one is judging u on ur looks.
/r/seduction22/05/18 01:55 PM
1

indian dudes already have bad stereotypes now imagine an unconventionally attractive dude approaching a small white girl in public lmao.
/r/seduction22/05/18 02:00 AM
1

i wish lol, you're a pretty attractive dude imo, 1/20 is very unrealistic.
/r/seduction22/05/18 01:39 AM
1

There is nothing else? Can you send me a pic of him? U can blur out face. I wanna see how he dresses and stuff too.
/r/seduction21/05/18 08:55 PM
-1

Neither thirsty nor nervous nor awkward.
/r/seduction21/05/18 08:54 PM
-1

Ugh I can't change my face at all so I must be severely below average if girls run after I say hi.
/r/seduction21/05/18 08:53 PM
-1

Is he mixed Indian? Light skin? Girls avoid me like I'm the plague and I'm fit.
/r/seduction21/05/18 08:50 PM
1

Are you white?
/r/seduction21/05/18 08:46 PM
2

How many cycles of improving your looks does a guy have to go through? I think I'm at my limit already. Nothing more to do since its all about face.
/r/seduction21/05/18 08:35 PM
1

Oh man. You used tinder. Yea I can't use tinder.
/r/seduction21/05/18 03:01 PM
3

Post up the story of last night.
/r/seduction20/05/18 04:41 PM
3

they like sex, just not with us though...... which is why we're here.
/r/seduction19/05/18 06:39 PM
7

you just admitted you don't push things and that's why you go nowhere.
/r/seduction18/05/18 10:52 PM
1

i have to see it to believe it.
/r/seduction16/05/18 10:43 PM
1

much better than without strangers? i don't get the point of this post.
/r/seduction16/05/18 12:38 AM
1

Asking a women that, usually ends up with never. Approach anyways cause the worst that happens is she walks away and the best is she is actually a cool person.
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:52 PM
1

I mean your game needs work. It has nothing to do with if you are attractive or not. Keep approaching at a high rate but how about you change up when you should go for the number. Do these approaches even end up fun for the girl?
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:47 PM
1

that link leads to a blank page for me
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:42 PM
2

i've seen your posts before. You give off the wrong vibes and mentality. I've seen you type you're ugly even though you're better looking than me. I've seen you get numbers through cold approaching at a pretty good rate. You just need more effort into doing it effectively, no idea how you're upset over getting success.
/r/seduction15/05/18 05:39 PM
-1

this makes me feel a lot better. i'm a 5'7 indian guy, that's mainly into white girls. Some actually do prefer indian guys. i've met one but other than that, i'm sensing that OP makes an assumption and decided not to approach because of it which is a pretty hurtful limiting belief.
/r/seduction13/05/18 02:41 PM
5

my 10/10s change pretty often. Obviously only looks because i've never had a "hot" girl. http://papers.co/wallpaper/papers.co-hk25-alexis-ren-girl-blonde-celebrity-40-wallpaper.jpg https://pre00.deviantart.net/7e19/th/pre/f/2014/267/0/8/alexis_ren_redb_1080p_wallpaper_by_bears85yemi-d80dps4.png
/r/seduction13/05/18 12:24 AM
4

i mean i'd be in that category because i met a girl. the thing is after that girl left, i wasn't getting laid anymore. I think those guys are possibly in the same situation where they met a girl and if she left they'd be like you.
/r/seduction12/05/18 08:19 PM
8

you're absolutely correct on everything. I still see some people asking about specific scenarios and what to say but this is the honest truth. The thing is it takes skill and experience to nail all those perfectly, which is why it seems so "oversimplified"
/r/seduction12/05/18 04:10 PM
1

I think people would be more motivated if it was a 1/20 rate. That doesn't seem so bad.
/r/seduction12/05/18 02:09 PM
11

Well the way its always framed is focus on yourself and ignore women. And turns out ignoring women means there won't be women in your life.
/r/seduction11/05/18 08:29 PM
18

Why does everyone say women come to you? You still have to go to where they are and that's no different than women not coming to you anyways.
/r/seduction11/05/18 05:13 PM
0

i learned it from this guy https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4py_gZiZJoyThV0Xwxhzug he was saying how guys place value on women because of their looks or sex but the majority of the time guys are actually higher value. Their looks doesn't help pay your bills, or feed you, or improve your body or mind. Once you exhibit attractive quality, you want a girl that actually gives value to your life otherwise she's getting money and experiences and other benefits for free.
/r/seduction09/05/18 12:43 AM
3

I've never heard of such a thing so i can't comment but it sounds like you actually use the words I don't want a monogamous relationship instead of something like you want a girl that provides value to your life.
/r/seduction09/05/18 12:31 AM
1

what is polyamorous leaning? those girls most likely date multiple guys at the same time.
/r/seduction09/05/18 12:14 AM
3

have you actually done daygame? It seems like you made a lot of assumptions in your post.
/r/seduction08/05/18 09:28 PM
1

women don't want to be approached in bars either, You just do it because if you don't, you get nothing.
/r/seduction06/05/18 07:43 PM
2

i think those are bad examples lol. I'm sure there are a lot of guys that stay in on the weekend to enjoy themself instead of chasing girls. i bought myself a car last week, got new shoes but i don't really feel all that better.
/r/seduction06/05/18 05:30 PM
1

any specific examples to drive this point home?
/r/seduction06/05/18 02:38 PM
1

I mean its not a big deal.
/r/seduction05/05/18 09:40 PM
-1

Ok but I'm just saying I downvoted because she doesn't care about a guy's physical fitness she already loves. Its completely different if a stranger approaches her. An opinion from a girl that does hook ups is probably more valuable too...
/r/seduction05/05/18 02:45 AM
-1

because she is already in love. if it was a random guy she would most likely be disgusted if he approached her. We don't know anything about her relationship so she could easily have been warmed up to him but that's not what any of us do.
/r/seduction05/05/18 02:17 AM
3

yea but my approaches aren't impressive at all. I still have no idea how to be interesting or if the girl is into anything i say or do. So while i could go up to a girl and say hi, I have no clue what I am doing. One time i even gave a girl my number from class since they were going to the museum and i asked if i can tag along with her and her friend. put my number in her phone and never got a single message. I didn't make a deal out of it either so I've still got a long way to go
/r/seduction03/05/18 11:43 PM
6

I'm 25 and the same situation as you. I find it bizarre there is even a girl that would find interest in me aside from girls that are really unattractive. But I'm trying to approach and see where it goes. I'm at 10 rejections so far and still going. It's hard but I'm going to day game downtown tomorrow so hopefully I meet at least one girl that wants to hangout.
/r/seduction03/05/18 07:43 PM
6

This is assuming you already have game and can get dates with women? See I already go to the gym and im definitely not fat and sleep pretty well. I work on my school and I hang out with friends. I haven't been gaming much but I still don't attract women. I'm assuming you're having success now because you already had the ability to get women.
/r/seduction01/05/18 05:54 PM
3

i'm curious since this video specifically only shows successes, do you have some approaches that fail? i mean it's really cool that you only say 2-3 lines then ask for number.
/r/seduction30/04/18 06:55 PM
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