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Question For Womenurukshai3/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:05 PM
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In this market, women have the power. They do not to put any effort. They do put effort on getting the men they cannot get morally, though (married men, taken men, men who do not care about them, etc). It is sad but it is the lifestyle they have chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:52 AM
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Women do not put much effort because they do not need to. That is OK, no on is judging women for that as that is natural in them and it is a buyers market.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 12:12 PM
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I think sex and company enough is incentive enough. I'm glad men at least have porn today and do not have to go to a shitty war to prove anything, they also do not have "to give everything for his wife". No wonder men put less effort, they just want to show "at least I tried, now porn is better".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 12:11 PM
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If men want to date women who initiate and don't expect gendered roles, they should date feminists. Women do not expect men to be like them, in fact they expect them to keep the gender rules that benefit women. Most single Feminist men are basically inc*ls with female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 12:08 PM
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Yeah, sure, because giving all sexual and social power to top 10% men was so anti-patriarchy and so fair and pro-equality, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 12:05 PM
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I agree, but honestly our society has centralized sex and social life too much, while also creating the tools and technology to avoid it perfectly. So you have two movements in society: Movement that says that being social makes you relevant. Movement that says you can avoid that and escape into a virtual world and digital pleasures. I'm glad the second still exist, because the first is not for everyone. My suggestion for autistic men is to try at least a few times (first point). If there is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:59 AM
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Men asking for paternity test absent any evidence of infidelity is and always will be incredibly offensive. Why? If nothing to fear, nothing to hurt. See it from the perspective of the state: Why does the state assume the father is the guy? It literally requires you to prove how you earned money, so why not your legitimacy as a father?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:14 PM
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Well, women do not have to be included in the process. The baby literally came from her womb. It is up to the father, the baby and the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:13 PM
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Excuses, excuses, excuses. Just tell us you do not what cheating women to be found out and their families paying for it, that is a shitty view but valid anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:12 PM
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The point of the test precisely is to confirm fatherhood. At the point he has the right for the test it imay be too late to undo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:10 PM
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Precisely, an a "surprise pregnancy" may be the biggest flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:09 PM
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Exactly. Especially the state shall not be trusting ANYONE's claim on fatherhood by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:07 PM
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A guy should not be forced to be a financial slave just because "muh pregnancy is hard", what a stupid argument. You are basically punishing the good guy and rewarding the cheating man, so pregnancy has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:06 PM
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It's just a big logistical challenge to implement and needs a government budget. They are way cheaper than most standard health tests anyway. Sometimes just like $40. Price is not a problem, it is an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:05 PM
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Funny because that proves the point the tests are necessary. Why does the state trust you as the father automatically? Why is no evidence required?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:04 PM
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My brother's exwife was bipolar and she cheated. It makes sense to do paternity tests as some women are mentally ill and can cheat even if part of them loves you. Humans are actually complex, also what I perceive as love may just be a lie and it is reasonable to doubt sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:03 PM
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Why are you with your partner if you don’t trust her or think she cheated? Look it another way: Why does the state trust the guy is the father? It should'nt. In fact the state force you to prove stuff such as how you made your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:00 PM
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It should be a standard procedure just as other health tests for the baby. Also many states require the woman to know, which often scare away men from taking the test and being victims of fraud for 18 years and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:59 AM
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Adultery is a French value, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:57 AM
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I had no problem with it but rather the gaslighting claiming it is not a big thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:54 AM
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the sexes don't really need each other any more. They're just dividing as both sides expect too much and the other isn't willing to compromise. Totally, and I suspect the AI and the coming technology of artificial wombs (which already worked for animals) will make the division even wider.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:52 AM
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Do you think that relationships are now less transactional, and yet they are more open about the transactional aspects of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:47 AM
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Kinda. I think they were always transactional but decorated. All the "Disney love" bullshit we were fed off is falling apart quickly. Not saying real, actual love don't exist, but the romantic shit is being seen as the facade it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:46 AM
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Good for them. Sadly some even sue the sperm donors for child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:22 AM
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I'm glad men are checking out a system that does not give them back anything, treat them as criminals or terrorists for just resenting not having sex and a system that wants to replace them with cheap asian slaves and tax them to death. What exactly do single women get from the gov that single men don’t Most tax benefits. Also men do riskiest and most essential jobs, fight wars, etc. and yet have to pay and would get the same benefit of taxes as women at least, or at worse get almost no benefit.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:21 AM
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I do, but at that time I'll probably be over the romantic idea of a wife and children. I'd had too much resentment not getting it before, and it would not be healthy for a relationship or family.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:16 AM
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It would be a revenge fantasy is male's outcome would be better, but this is eventually hellish for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:15 AM
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I'm sure women get exactly the idea of a man after dating him for a while. Does he want to get in your legs the second day? Do you know too many of his exes? Do you see how he talks with his friends about women or how he changes the subject when you are around? The fantasy women have is that those men will ever change, or that they are high enough to be better than any previous woman. All men and women have darkness in them, but ideally you do not marry a man that is far worse than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:14 AM
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No, it is not a conspiracy, it is lack of self awareness. Men are also like that on other aspects. For example, men often claim sex is the most important when clearly it is not because they are not going to prostitutes in mass, or trying to get FWB relationships as much as you would expect if that was the case. Carl Jung said we have a collective shadow, and men and women project each other the things they claim to hate but actually love. Make a little observation to prove this: if men and women…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:12 AM
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So men are lying and cheating and WOMEN are to blame ?? I'm arguing that women choose those men again and again even after realizing it. They love the drama. That is OK, the problem is the gaslighting moms and women in our lives push to men... you have to be good, you have to make her fill as a princess, etc. All bullshit. I don't know if they are aware of the damage they are causing to those men, maybe they only feel comfortable saying the good, but they indeed love and choose evil and problema…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:09 AM
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Sad thing is those lonely men will have to pay for those fatherless children through tax money. So they get to pay society even more with no benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 12:16 PM
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What is the matter? They get money, he gets fun. Win-win. Your vagina is not a sacred land anymore since you sell it in Instagram and tinder. The "purity" trick is not effective anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 12:11 PM
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Giving up is indeed the reasonable solution for some men. After all, people have for centuries found ways other to be happy with no romantic relationships, voluntary (priests, monks, nuns) or not (eunuchs).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 12:09 PM
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If you live alone and work in a male dominated industry you won't see any women your age on a day to day basis. This happened to me. Ironically the only young woman that got some interest in me was the only woman in office, but she was fired to I'm alone now and I did not properly cultivate the relationship as I played slow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 12:07 PM
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It cannot get worse anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 12:06 PM
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On top of that i just hate the games people play and the fact that everyone gets treated as an option. Yes, it is dehumanizing and I do not think I will ever forgive the other gender even if I get into love. I will probably have some resentment still.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 12:05 PM
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Yes, they are sharing the same guys, knowingly or not. Another thing is that often they consider a guy they are going out with a "boyfriend" while he may just consider them a FWB. Women created this hell, but they have not yet realized they are in it. Or maybe they do enjoy drama and untrustworthy men after all. Humans are weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 12:03 PM
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Is not that what women want? More "equal" or "mutual" relationships or some other bullshit like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 12:01 PM
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Jerking off to porn is way better Yes it is way better, the bad thing is that it is not challenging... like a game that you just win by using. But on the other hand it is the real dating game which is impossible. No middle point. So I'm glad at least porn is there and maybe AI will make it even better. Porn is not good by itself but it is a necessary evil, like war.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 11:58 AM
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Women are just sharing men older richer men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 11:55 AM
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Maybe that's just the gene pool kicking me out though 🤷🤣 I think the same. In the past it was illness and war to keep a scarcity of men, today it is apparently to shame us to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 11:52 AM
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I'd say men are just trying less because there is no point. Women have no problem sharing top guys or just going their own, and many guys are doing the same. Let me tell you a secret... we have some pills called antipsychotics so you do not need to "win" or "date" to be happy anymore. When men find that, just as women found them, men will even have fewer reasons to pursue anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 11:51 AM
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TIL DiCaprio is an incel xD
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:17 PM
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Well, they could want it and have no skill so they get nothing, but that is up to them, it is their problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:15 PM
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Agreed, Di Caprio is irrelevant for a discussion about average single men and single women dating each other and the dynamics that affect them both.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 08:10 PM
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When the girls get close to 30 themselves, the dating cycle hurts them, just like it hurt the guys in their late teens/early 20s. Exactly. Both genders enjoy and suffer at different stages of their lives. It seems unfair in a small window, but pretty fair and self-regulated at a larger scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 08:09 PM
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Cough in Leonardo Di Caprio Women who marry Di Caprio get exactly what they deserve for feeling themselves to be the "chosen one" over their sisters.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 08:06 PM
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That is also another issue we have socially. For example, a man and a woman may be dating for months and only one part may consider that a relationship while the other may consider that just FWB. They may live together as a marriage for a decade and yet do not consider that a marriage. They may also be married but separated for years. They may e together for a few months and separate and go back together, and do that for decades. There are so many dimensions and variables, no wonder why studies …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:50 PM
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You implied that porn made it worse and that explains men dating younger today, but the fact is that men dated even younger in the past, even teenager girls were given for marriage. Or maybe you tried to say something else and I did not get it? I'm asking in good faith, because honestly I do not find porn making it any worse in this aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:48 PM
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Men find the dating game funny and entertaining, though. Women find the game frustrating, like a chore. Imagine living in tutorial mode for dating as most women are, and still finding ways to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:45 PM
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Sorry if I was not clear by implying they are single because they are dating, I'm talking about single people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:44 PM
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Because it always sounds like you guys want to groom yourself young girls into certain personality traits that you can profit from. If women really would believe it was grooming they would want to stop ALL men from dating younger women, not just old men. There is nothing wrong with wanting to grow together and learn to be the best fit for each other. You know, the man is also growing, and men are also slow to mature than women, so it all even out. A woman in her early 20s is not a child. If she …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:43 PM
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Imagine women: living in tutorial mode for dating, having infinite options, and still find a way to complain about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:39 PM
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I think most single men who cannot get love are just autistic, while autistic women have no issues dating. Regardless, even those men are more likely to find interesting hobbies than "shopping".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:37 PM
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Old men are not the ones having Xanax for breakfast. Old men are not the ones filing for divorce. Old men are not the ones trying to stop age-gap relationships or trying to stop others from dating outside their countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:34 PM
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I'm not talking about most people, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:30 PM
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That is kind of racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:28 PM
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I think it depends a lot on the culture, too. Not to mention that marriage is just one kind of relationships, I think men and women living together as a marriage the age gap is probably greater as marriage often is the result of people who met younger together. However, I cannot back up this claim, I'm just especulating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:27 PM
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Many of the “best men” are married to women their age just like most people are. Agreed, so are the best women his age already married, but many men are late bloomers... they did not have money or status until later in life, so now only younger women are available, and the best options overall are younger women. I think it is fair... women have infinite options to pick, especially being young, and men can work their way up to pick the women themselves. It all evens out and in the end, it is as e…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:24 PM
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The problem is you guys want to experience casual sex but don't like the outcome. Both are getting casual sex and both have outcomes that soon or later have to pay for. The difference is that women pay it more individually and men pay it more collectively as women as a whole become less trustful for marriage and relationships. But I agree hook up culture is cancer, and I do not mean just sex with a boyfriend, I mean sex with random guys or different guys every month as often promoted by mendia.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:21 PM
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Nothing of those things of the past has anything to do with the attraction men have for younger ladies. If the behavior of men have not changed toward young women for millenia, it makes sense to assume it is more fundamental than just culture or age or porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:18 PM
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Nothing is guaranteed, but I think romance is more prominent with young ladies for this reason, as the idea of them growing together is seen as a social investment, love. This is why men who date older women see it more as a transaction than romance, and so see it the woman, who want a man with money and a good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:16 PM
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Unless the plan is to somehow freeze time so she remains in that youthful state forever, the natural maturation process is going to happen. And who knows how that’s going to end up for anyone, let alone the man in her life? Marry young woman: You get the best of her young and old years. Marry old woman: You get the best of her old days only. Logically, the first is a better investment so it is likely the man will stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 06:57 PM
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Men married even younger before porn was a widespread thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 06:56 PM
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No one is forcing those women to open legs to 50 different guys before they even turn 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 06:54 PM
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Oh no, I'm so sad that divorced women on prozac with children from other men are not interested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 06:53 PM
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Yes, we value inexperience just as women value experience in us. Reason? Women need nothing to get sex, men do need skills to pull women. So women for sex is cheap but valuable for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 06:51 PM
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Let me see: Girls can be fat, ugly and disgusting and still find mates. Men do not have that luxury, they just die alone. I'm more empathic to the guy, therefore. Girls have no problem sharing top men, and top men apparently have no issue often fucking ugly women. That means underaverage guys are over. I'm empathic to those guys therefore. Girls have a huge social network by the fact they are just considered agreeable and desirable for having a vagina, not the case for men. Therefore, guys need …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 12:09 PM
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It is sad, I wonder if that is the reason why so many women date old. I'm fortunate I'm young and have a good job, but my autism does not help with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 12:03 PM
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Women have more sexual power and wealth and social influence, so yes, the analogy is appropiate. Men need to earn money and do more and better to compete for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 12:02 PM
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It is lonely to be with the wrong person just as it is lonely to be alone. No, it isn't. No one is forcing you to stay with a person that makes you feel worse than loneliness if loneliness is always an option you can choose. Even girls in abusive relationships are often getting something from it, such as status, sex or just happy feeling their own self hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:02 PM
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Women want to be both royalty and victims. It is like a queen lamenting she does not have enough money for golden utensils to eat and comparing it to being hungry. It is outrageous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:00 PM
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Two reasons: My family and I had chosen a more ethical and religious life. I prefer people like that and I prefer people to match my values. People from broken homes can date each other and no one is stopping them from improving themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:57 AM
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Technically no one is valuable, or everyone is infinitely valuable. It is paradoxical because we try to apply price and supply and demand to the same customers and sellers, it is often pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:55 AM
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Women being lucky to be part of the less horny sex does not imply them offering anything by their own credit. They are valuable by default on sex, just as men are valuable on strength and achievements. Women can make a lot of money from sex and that means sex is valuable. Sex is valuable and it only has value because guys can pay for it, which implies value comes from the guy. I think its hilarious when guys say "women have nothing to offer now days" yet they spend A LOT of time ranting about no…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:50 AM
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For men, dating is really competitive. It feels demeaning. Do you think I would care shit about women if society did not make me feel like a loser for being single? Nah, I wouldn't. As other men, I just want the status. Women are just the object to get status.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:47 AM
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Yes. I'd rather be alone than get a woman over 25. I'm 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:45 AM
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if a guy is unsuccessful and never got any sexual experience or love/authentic desire from women but so then gets successful, wouldn't that mean men are more valuable than women but also men are the actual prize instead of women ? Wouldn't that mean successful men should actually set up the new standards that women have to ever match, just not by looks ? It is hard to visualize as an analogy to markets we know because markets include many products, while human sexual market is just two product: …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:38 PM
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The problem is that men have to invest in everything: Dating, initiating, risking their own assets after commitment, etc. so it is reasonable to assume that is an average man marries a fat woman or a woman uglier than him, that means he is either desperate or she somehow manipulated him. Fat women are not doomed, they have far more sexual value than average men and still complain. Imagine living in tutorial mode and still finding a way to complain and lose because you are never satisfied with an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 12:10 PM
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It is a good thing, but not for the right reasons. You can put all people in jail and reduce crime. You can kill all disabled people and save money. You can also enslave all men in that way to increase all tax revenue, but is that a good thing just because an outcome of it seems reasonable? Also, your points are myopic: Women have more access to sex than ever and they often lie about n-count anyway. Women also prefer men with sexual experience. That means n-count only goes down significantly to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:54 AM
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Bigger women still have more sexual power than average men. No wonder women are only getting bigger and bigger by the years, even when that is so unhealthy and dangerous at the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:46 AM
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I do disagree with this whole western society doesn't value chastity and that's why sex is valued, since wouldn't it be the complete opposite? The reason why sex gives a sort of status us because women are predominantly stingy about giving sex. If women gave sex easily, there wouldn't be so much status with it, no? I never thought about it that way. It is an interesting perspective to consider. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:01 PM
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It is a shit test, women do this because they want to see which men buy their bullshit. It is unconscious. Weak and less masculine men lost the test.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 07:48 PM
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A hot man will certainly have an easier time attracting women but they still need to be social. Agreed, but that social network by itself is mostly useless for men. All social relationships among men are superficial and do not have the deep and importance that, for example, make men help women to not be homeless. Only valuable relationships between men are those with joint ventures or projects, but they are shortlived and very mechanic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 07:48 PM
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Do you think two bums who love each other are high status? Yes because it means somehow different people validated each other, so they must be valid for social groups, gatherings, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 06:03 PM
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A single man who's never dated or slept with anyone before is in a totally different category. They're more likely to lack social skills and have less friends/social groups. But even that could be redeemed if they don't act desperate or make being single/sexless their whole identity. Women fuck hot men, it does not matter if they are social or not. If they are social they just friendzone them, and if they are not then they just ostricize them. I don't think men really ever had strong social bond…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 06:01 PM
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I agree, but I don't think women cooperation is what gives them power, it is the state and powerful men that have the power of the state that sells the illusion they cooperate. Women are often very competitive for top men and they do not need to cooperate as much because men take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 05:59 PM
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Men who claim to not value social status often do not understand what is. They claim they just want a person to go around and have loving relationships, but precisely that is a form of status, a luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:42 AM
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Most men who are single and not incels are not getting as much sex and social validation as wanted. They do not have to be incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:41 AM
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If men dated women for social status they'd try to date well known women with high paying jobs. Hmm, that is a good point, but I don't think men can pull status from women if that status is stereotypically attributed to men. In other words, a man marrying a more professional and richer woman than him is like he saying "look, my wife is more a man than me" because often that is the kind of status expected from men, even by the same progressive women!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:42 AM
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Love is a very abstract idea based on top of many other attributes that seem to imply status. Status can also be abstracted as love from everyone else, it happens it is often conditional for men having at least a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:36 AM
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I'd say Love and affections are often abstractions on top of female validation, company, social acceptance, social validation, dating status, preselection, practicalities of having someone helping you, etc. In fact, all emotions are abstractions. Resentment is often an abstraction on wanting to "balance" stuff and "putting someone" in their place, for example. Does unconditional love exist? I do believe it does, especially for your own children, but I think it is cultivated in a partnership. Ini…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:28 AM
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You rise a good point. When I'm alone, I find it hard to enjoy life. It is not the same to go on my own to a night club without someone, or even to just have lunch. It is also sad to go home and have some frozen food instead someone there helping you in your house. It is also convenient to have a partner to go for exercising or even having a walk, a partner than in theory is there for you first.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:26 AM
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Agreed, because sex with someone who is exclusive to you is more valuable, and implies you are special enough for one person choosing you and you alone for sex and romantic company. Still, men can get their sexual needs fulfilled easily if they have money, and for some of them even just porn is enough, so it all goes back to the social status... the implication of having someone specially for you only, who certificates you as safe and socially adept for a relationship, friendship and love. No wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:22 AM
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Hmmm, I get men want women for sex and status and company, and in a sense that is a good thing because love is an abstraction on those things. However, for money? I doubt it. Many young women are in student debt after studying something useless, yet they can get almost every man, and also women choose men who at least earn as much as them, not poor men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:20 AM
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Sure bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 03:50 AM
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Regardless, talk therapy is not for everyone and no talk therapy will help you if you have no purpose and no goal in life, be it man or woman, but women at least can choose a man with purpose so they have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 03:48 AM
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Well, they can start with not being fat. That also applies to women, if they want high quality men to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:21 PM
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Well, many broke people are precisely broke because they failed to make a profit. But attraction is not an investment you lose. Even if you do not get women, you are still better looking than before and you can build on top of that. Unless it is surgeries and shit, it is a good investment, so are social skills, yet even that is hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:20 PM
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Men, but without such irresponsibility it is unlikely we would not be here. Men, however, are usually responsible on caring for their children and often give them more resources than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:04 PM
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Talk therapy is not as good for men because it is based on the assumption the necessity men have is to communicate, but that is not the case in most depressed men. Men love building stuff together, making projects, creating something new or destroying stuff. That is far better therapy than any "talk". Women may be happy with lots of talking, that is why they talk on average 2x more words than men, but that does not mean men can be treated the same. Wanna make men happy? Just let them do their st…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:02 PM
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Neither sexual gratification nor emotional fulfillment can be reasonably gained from random men hitting on me. Ego boost is enough. Also free food.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:56 AM
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For example, while it is true that many women get deluged with messages on an app, most are not desirable--many fail to even be basically polite. It is like rich people not having enough good workers to pick, still better than having no options at all. Some Women love being privileged and biphobic and classist and even racist, and so they pick men, yet when they are called out they scream victimhood because that is just another layer of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:55 AM
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I have not been diagnosed, but it seems I'm in the spectrum if I consider the most common symptoms. Still, I'm highly functional, thank God, but zero success on dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:50 AM
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Being transgender: I am not homophobic but many men said that they would never date a woman who was born a man even if she got sex reassigment surgery. That has nothing to do with transphobia, it is a preference. Most women, even those who love to call themselves so progressive, may also be called biphobic and would not date openly bisexual men, yet at the end it is their preference and preference is by default always exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:44 AM
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That's OK, we are all different. Some people do have more options than us but cannot have stable relationships, maybe you have fewer options but the best options will be yours. Life is full of tradeoffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:10 PM
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In other words, the top 10%-20%, right? Yet men see this and blatantly claim this is the experience for generally all women, hmmm! You may be unapproachable but still attractive to men. If you look as if you had a pineapple in the ass, guys will just hit your friend. It is not that hard to install an app and have all options you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:04 PM
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Uber drivers are technically not employees, they can take that risk, but it is indeed often not professional... but hey, that is the price of being a man, risking it all. Personally I prefer porn to the risk of humiliation from a random woman I barely know, tho. But other guys do think only with the dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:00 PM
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I guess she hopes to change his mind, but guys do the same... the girl may claim to be religious and he will insist in some "friendship" just for the remote possibility of getting laid. Dating is a mess today, and it will take probably half a century for it to regulate. I expect a mini-population collapse and probably a social breakdown meanwhile, and lots of old unhappy resentful people who were unable to get love and make a family, but that is a prophecy for another day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:57 AM
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No. That's actually what drew me to this sub in the first place, because the shit guys were saying all women experience isn't remotely true for my own life. But that is what women here claim... that they have all that sexual power and so they do not need men because they can get sex or a relationship in a minute, or open an app and get 100 requests and close it 3 days later after finding her man or whatever. Why do women want to claim to be the winner of Sex and relationships, but also the perpe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:53 AM
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Personally I do not flirt with women anymore because that inflates their already big ego. Not healthy for them, not useful for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:50 AM
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...when it’s MEN who don’t want a woman a lot of men touched. That is just an emotional abstraction of the phenomenon I described. In the end, it does not matter because all our ideas and views are just masks over the animal we all are, and we cannot change or control that, so blaming men for seeing sexuality as that or women for behaving as such is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:49 AM
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It is not so hard to observe other animals and see how often males treat women as property and fight for them to keep them, etc. No, you do not have to believe in evolution or even be conscious of it for it to be true on this aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:47 AM
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take it as a compliment that your presence gives comfort and safety Clearly my presence is not enough for me to get laid, so they can fuck off. I'm not working overtime.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:18 PM
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Yeah, I forgot they love crime shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:14 PM
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...but it is interesting to think that a woman is far more likely to be harmed or assaulted by a friend, family member or someone like a coworker than a random person in a parking lot. Agreed, most dangers are in the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:13 PM
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Women get exactly the men they are asking for. The complain is probably just shittesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:09 PM
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Secondly, some guys are a-holes or just shitty people who are selectively nice to hot women because they want to get laid. These are not nice guys. Agreed, but women do not have any problem fucking those men. In fact, they probably prefer them because they make other guys go away and also have their "territory" or some shit. Don't get me wrong... women would prefer strong good men, but if they cannot get them, they will just get the strong bad guy and be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:08 PM
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Not true. Women prefer good looking and masculine looking men for social status. That's all. Women do not need sex as much as men, they can also easily get an orgasm using a device. The exception may be when they are the most fertile, during that time they are horny and do want actual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:06 PM
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Yes, it is, but their gaslighting about "emotional men" and "sensitive new men" is all bullshit and lies, which suggest lying and cheating is biological too from women? I would not be surprised, as dishonesty is a way to survive too, especially if you are the weaker sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:04 PM
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How many n count posts have there been men don’t want women touched by too many other men… why? Because that makes her unclean. The reason is evolutive... the male cannot be sure if his children are really his, so he expects exclusivity from her, while socially exclusivity from men is not expected. HOWEVER, getting sex is way harder from men, so it all evens out and it is pretty fair at the end. Still that does not have anything to do with "unclean" bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:02 PM
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Harem
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 06:54 PM
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Technically you can't say anything about me in the first place, tho. You need to make it personal for lack of arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 06:53 PM
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Wut... having options have nothing to do with taking them all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 06:52 PM
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Female attraction is very animalistic, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:35 PM
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Umm, not as passing on genes, but yes as a contribution to my family tree, a continuation to my generation since the start of life on earth. Why is wanting that bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:34 PM
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Well, if you do want to have children, it is a serious issue to consider. Also, what is the point of a stable commitment if not for children? Otherwise just cohabitate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:33 PM
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I would not marry her because I want to have children. There are plenty of men who do not want children, she can pick. Women have it so easy on dating that leaving them is giving them freedom to choose and be happy elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:33 PM
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I disagree, I think those people probably were autistic. Today, by centralizing all social relevance around sex, we're are probably making many autistic people depressed and feel worthless, and their contribution to society will not be the same. We are just returning to the stone age without physical violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:29 PM
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I also disagree with that view, I'm just pointing out that that view generalized and that is what gives women the default value they have. Women here claim men cannot get laid because they are not social, or they are creeps, etc. but they fail to mention women do not even have to move a finger to get men. They do not need any social skills or any appeal but a vagina because men are so horny. That is not good or bad, it is just what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:27 PM
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Good for you. Clearly, your "sisters" here are not so fortunate. Still engaged is nothing. Marriage is the real thing and it probably is never coming anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:25 PM
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You clearly cannot smell the cum of guys that use you as a masturbation tool, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:23 PM
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The competition with other men will not disappear if you do now know them. Better known competition than unknown competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:21 PM
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Ironically, meeting other guys is the best way to meet women because extension of the social network, and the fact women prefer socially adept guys. I did not write the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:05 PM
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Yes, but only if you consider looks. Gym helped me in many other ways: Develop discipline Have a look on my diet and the trash I eat Meet other men Just forget a while about the stress of life. So gym did not help me attract women, but it did help me feel better and have better health, which is far more important than any raisin-looking pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:58 PM
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The idea is that women contribute by just existing and birthing, while male contribution is more direct and measurable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:56 PM
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incels are just the losers of the species Only if you define sexual success as fundamental. Scientists such as Tesla or Isaac Netwon were basically incels, yet they contributed more than any woman having 10 kids or any guy fucking thousands of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:53 PM
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Agreed, but choice paralysis is bad too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:51 PM
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Women are content being single. It seems they are way happier scremaing it every 5 minutes here. Wonder why.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:44 PM
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No relationship IS better than a bad or monotonous relationship, this cannot be stressed enough I disagree. I know it is controversial, but actually some people enjoy the drama of bad relationships and perpetuate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:34 PM
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Maybe no the kind of girls who are only good for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:33 PM
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Imagine being a woman, living in tutorial mode for dating and STILL finding a way to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:30 PM
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Maybe because I'm not a mysogynist for telling you the truth instead of using you as a cum tissue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:29 PM
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Humans have an inherent need for intimacy and social interaction. Romance and sex are apart of that. Sure, but they have better ways to cope now if they do not get that. Drug, porn, prostitution, entertainment, etc. It is not a replacement, just a time waster to forget a sad life and that is OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:12 PM
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Having 2 boys from different men and 100k in debt in a useless degree is not attractive, though. Even for the most ugly men. Maybe just for some sex once in a while, not anything close to a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:11 PM
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Funny, as open misogynists are exactly the hypermasculine men that get any date now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:09 PM
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What a pathetic excuse. You can date basically any man you know as friend or coworker, who is safe to date, or is a friend of a friend. Men do not have such options, we may end up dating another scammer or desperate illegal migrant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:09 PM
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Yes, they are sad and also look disgusting now. Also they love xanax and cats for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:07 PM
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Crime has its own status.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:05 PM
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People are living economically on the edge, but they are not starving for that. At best you can share rent, at worse someone can use you for free rent, so not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:05 PM
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Not really. Women are getting fatter, more useless and more disgusting by the years yet they expect the same or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:04 PM
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meanwhile, every girl i know is attached. even the ones who claim to be single have multiple pseudo-boyfriends. i wouldn't go so far as to call them fuckbuddies, but thats probably what they are lol. no single girl is really single, only single guys are truly single. Totally. It is very unfortunate. They say it gets easier as you get older, but I do not think I can forgive those women for that, nor I will take her with her bastards and baggage, I'd rather die alone or marry way younger if the ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:03 PM
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Drama, boredom, other men to your appartment... nothing good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:58 AM
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This. If I worked out for getting women I would probably given up long ago on going to the gym. I do like looking fit and healthy. Now I just put my headphones and fuck off other people, I'm there for myself, not women or other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:56 AM
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_So my question for men: Why would you hate a percentage of men that did nothing to hurt you? I do not see any hate there besides some basic jealously, and often men who are jealously are the least masculine and most bluepilled men, who are not there to fight for their own position and win, but rather try to put others down. I remember some lady put pepper on a miss universe' makeup... that is hate on jealousy. I do not see such things among men at all. They rather fight each other to dead or sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:53 AM
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I would rather die celibate than date an overweight woman. Same, but I guess some guys just sacrifice their dignity for just not feeling losers being single, which is very stupid yet that is the social pressure around.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:42 AM
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Bottom 80% of men are fighting for bottom 20% of women Thanks God not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:40 AM
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But we need a younger population to keep the system in the first place. It is like a catch-22 problem then, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:44 AM
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South Korea is one of the most developed, modern, automatized, etc. and so is Japan. Still not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:21 AM
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Exactly, basically migration without integration is just an investment for ethnic wars in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:20 AM
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There literally isn't, though, and having babies is not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:18 AM
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Earth doesn't, nor should it be expected to, have the capacity to support endless exponential population growth. Such growth have not been observed in any population, though. It is all pseudoscience, and there is no evidence overpopulation is a thing, not to mention that only people who are destroying earth are a minority globally.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:17 AM
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Well the unsuccessful men yes. There has always been unsuccessful men, they just never had a voice, or forum to complain about. They just died alone and their existence forgotten shortly after. Agreed, although to be honest I arguably when men actually dressed in diamonds and had like 5 wives unapologetically. At least they were open and honest about it, not hiding and denying it sneakily as today people do, gaslighting us into claiming and making us repeat this society is "fair".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:16 AM
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It is not as common, I'm just pointing out that almost all women hitting men are older than them. Younger women expect rather to be hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 08:42 PM
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You are ignoring a thing we all love to ignore: Resentment and Envy. Most of the critics of particular heterosexual couples are older women and lonely men who claim to be feminists or shit like that. On males, least the supposedly "dangerous right wing" incels are open about it, not as the whitenight incels of the left who believe they will someday get sex for putting women on a pedestal and being orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:19 PM
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If a man has few options he is less likely to risk ruining the chance he’s built towards with his SO. Sure, but those are not the men women pick. Women love men that other women pick too, so those men have zero reason to be loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:06 PM
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It is as vague as the "emotional work" women talk about, which means just being around.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:03 PM
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bUt Muh EmOtIoNaL sUpPoRt
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:02 PM
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It is a tradeoff. Men have fewer options than women, so they cannot give themselves the luxury of being too loyal to only one except after a period. Women can be loyal because they have options and the options they pick are worthy of loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:24 AM
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I prefer conservative areas because they still believe in marriage and often families know and vet each other, but indeed, the options are more limited. It is a tradeoff. A psychopath can easily go to a big city and never ever be socially punished for hurting people because he has an infinite supply of victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:09 PM
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WTF no one is talking about "forcing" everything, and yes, you often need some trust and commitment to make romance and love worth it. Otherwise it will slip away and you will miss a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:07 PM
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Having this bond with someone makes everything I had before just SO MUCH BETTER. It will be sad if society chooses to step away from companionship. There is no amount of luxury or technology that can replace an authentic bond with another human. This is beautiful, so sad it is hardbreaking for many of us who will probably never meet someone special, and even if we do are too resentful and traumatized to make it work. Pure ENVY
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:05 PM
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I agree, but also I think we are hardwired to those strong connections because of how the species evolved for millennia. Sure, women depended on men to survive, just as men depended on women to be born. Genders do not depend on each other as much, but the nature is still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:04 PM
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Maybe if is for the best we are openly sexual from the start, if that is the only kind of relationship and interaction that is really valued by society anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:01 PM
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AAAAAAAA DELEEEET
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:57 AM
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You rise a very good point, why date average guys if you have attention from attractive, high-energy men? Still, it seems to be a short term burst as after a while many women get resentful to ALL men, specially against those they never had sex with, probably because you still do not want to scare away the guys you fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:53 AM
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This is true, but often women are loyal to one man at a time for a period. When men are like that is only because they do not have other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:50 AM
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Generally speaking, women only share, when they don't KNOW they're sharing. Usually they ignore it or try to look away even if they know. Even in real life traditional polygamy the women hate each other and so do their families.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:46 AM
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Women compete for high quality men, the dick is something they have to deal with. Men compete for amounts of pussy, the woman attached is the person they have to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:44 AM
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Or rather let women pay for their own shit instead claiming to be free and independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:40 AM
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Women who impregnate themselves, or even single mothers, still often depend on the state that taxes single men to pay for bastards that are not even theirs, and gets most money from them. So she is still dependant but through the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:11 PM
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I think they mean ‘all men’ not just you. Weird how some women here make it all personal every time they do not have an argument. Dude was talking generally of men. Most women here do not even have a problem admitting it. No need to make it personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:10 PM
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Having said that, there has always been people who just can't socialize at all, and end up lonely. No, only men. Asocial women have no issues, they just have to say yes. Apparently that is hard for them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:09 PM
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They are not pulling them, they are being pulled.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:07 PM
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The solution for you is that I suggest you to be the most independent and happy possible in your own way. There are countless techniques for that. The solution for society is to let those people live their consequences and hopefully expect future generations to come. Childless old women? Let them die alone. Do not visit them, do not marry them, do not pay them stuff. Irresponsable promiscuous men? Do not facilitate them by giving them your daughters. Feminist women? Let them live by their ideals…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:05 PM
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Some some say that the reason is that she depends on the man financially, and if he leaves, she is at risk. However, this makes no sense as most government is made to help mothers who are alone, and you still depend on a boss financially if you work, and plenty of women would prefer to rather be stay-at-home. The reason being a mom is not respected is because childless, resentful feminists and activists hate it, just as they often hate marriage and any traditional family arrangement as they want…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:59 AM
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Not exactly. I only have one testicle. They don't care and it seems law makes them scared or even prescribing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:15 AM
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Putting vaginas so central in civilization is so stupid. Literally back to the stone age when civilization clearly developed by moving away from those primitive sexual needs seen as that fundamente. Sadly it is not a decision anyone take but the collective. It will probably get worse and tech will keep this decaying horny civilization barely alive like a terminally ill person in a hospital.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 10:58 PM
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Sadly I never knew how having low* testosterone feels like and no doctor even wanted to test me. It is crazy how doctors give women all kind of hormones but testosterone is seen as a dangerous drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 10:56 PM
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This post is not blaming women, though. I doubt women want this for their sons or brothers, yet that is what it is for most men. That system is also not consciously controlled by individuals or collectives, it is a trend of hormones, human trust and social market. Why do you feel attacked? Pointing out women have privileged on that aspect is not blaming women nor asking them to change what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 10:55 PM
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Women don't decide the value of men. They decide the value of sex, because men want sex more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 10:53 PM
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Why would that belief be ludicrous if it is true, or at least closest to the truth? After all, we accept the reality of worth things... we kill to eat, we die most likely alone in a hospital, no one values us in any market without experience, racism exists, etc. So why is this so hard to accept?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 10:52 PM
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Give up. You can find happiness elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 12:02 PM
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Well, you assessment is unfair because women in those films do not look average either. I'm an average guy and I get your struggle, but films always use good-looking thin people. Women in those films are often represented as business owners, or professional workers or shit like that. Not all women are even close to that. Many just work in customer service and are normal workers in offices.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 12:00 PM
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This, there is no need to lie. If the topic rises, try to avoid it casually or shift it to her body count so she just changes the topic too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:58 AM
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Some guys with lots of sex are so bad in bed that the woman cannot know how experienced the guy is unless he gets very nervous or tells her so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:57 AM
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I only know how common it is in gay life, but no idea the dynamic of heterosexual couples. I'm bisexual in theory, gay in practice. I suspect most of it is just smoke, people pretending to have more or less sex than they claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:55 AM
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DELET THIZ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 03:58 AM
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A woman can get commitment but it will be a challenge because for whatever reason less men want commitment, making the commitment pool much smaller Yes, but only on the pool of men you are interested on, which you have full power to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:49 PM
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I'd say it is a young attractive woman and chad man market.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:47 PM
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None will get either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:46 PM
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It is as if men were not only one person, wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:45 PM
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Ignore picky women. Stop feeding their ego. That's all. They will be happy you are not bothering them, and you will not be frustrated. However, most picky women have a narcissist attitude that they claim to be picky but in fact only play hard to play. Just don't play her game.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:45 PM
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Are being worked to death, tired have no free time to date due to capitalism People did not work less in non capitalist countries, both past and present. This is bullshit leftist narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:40 PM
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If that is true, I find it weird women hate porn so much if it actually makes men bother them less. I suspect women do like men being lust to get free stuff and favors from them, and claim they don't just to appear more moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:38 PM
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It is as if people were not only one person wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:35 PM
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I'm conservative and I observe people are realizing why conservative sex life is important, but still they do not like it. In a sense, they are like a child that does not want to take his medicine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:35 PM
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What then? His natural instinct to want sex and relationships isn't just going to go away, it's still inside him, desperately trying to drive him to be intimate with a woman, because that's a normal human thing to experience. I agree, but also that natural instinct can be seen as just as instinct instead of just letting them entertain it with false promises. But you do rise a good point, which is the biological urge. I honestly do not know if there are genuine medications to try to subvert such …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:59 PM
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Other than all of your woman hating nonsense Ummm, excuse me? What do you consider hating women? I do criticize the attitude of some women, but so I criticize the attitude of some men too, as it is a social criticism. I did not mention suicide as an option because I have been banned for days for even suggesting it, which is stupid because a society that hates you do not want you to have an exit makes it evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:56 PM
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Or is that learning to accept whatever life has in store for you? I don't think anyone would argue with the latter perspective. Yes, it is accepting what cannot be changed, yet plenty of people promising those men they will "get someone" and moms telling their sons "to give them grandsons" as gaslighting is not helping those men, but making them depressed and feel like a failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:54 PM
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wtf i'm defending you from creeps
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:52 PM
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WOW I don’t think I’ve ever interacted with a real life incel before!! LOL, some women always put pussy on a pedestal, rather than using good arguments. I'm not even heterosexual. On average Still paper abortion shall be a thing, as men are in disadvantage and have to pay for her decision for 18 years. If you consider a guy saying sexist jokes as oppression, then your threshold of oppression is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:21 PM
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The idea that every old person is sitting around regretting their decision to skip a “traditional family structure” is mostly just a conservative revenge fantasy. People who are pro-monogamy need to be that there’s some sort of “consequence” to never settling down or tying the knot. Because if they isn’t any, the conservative worldview starts to fall apar This is a weird take. I'd argue most non monogamous people often want someone special to live with, although I may be wrong. I do not get why …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:09 PM
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My point is that women control sex market because: Men are more horny for women than the other way around. Government punishes women less than it punishes men for the same. For instance, a woman can give in adoption a kid but a guy cannot renounce fatherhood. She also has more options for birth control, she can kill the unborn kid 4 times and be called empowered, etc. Socially, women are still seen as victims and oppressed, so they are given the right side in courts, fights and custody of childr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:04 PM
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Ummm, I'm not blaming women. I get it is supply and demand, and social programs that men and women are not aware of how harmful they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 10:50 PM
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Those men do blame women and society because women have virtually all sexual power in this current dating market. Only exceptions are a few top men who have even more power than women, they are the billionaires of the sex market, but only because women give them all sex and attention and commitment. Sure, you won't be able to bang supermodels, but you should be able to find other average women who are interested in you. Average women who actually do not hate average men already have plenty of op…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 10:39 PM
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Or just accept the cruelty and savagery of the dating game and stop gaslighting young men promising empty things if they do this or that when clearly most of them are not even close to the threshold that other men never had in the first place. The issue is the gaslighting and dishonesty those men are being forced to live just to not talk about the reality of the game and make women look like angels.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 02:23 AM
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. When they got the chance, they rebelled against [genders] and now people are free to choose what they want Maybe, but that is only for the sake of being a rebel. It seems even advanced progressive societies go back to some form of gender differentiation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-equality_paradox I do not get why it is so important to change that. Sure, some individuals with divergent genders may feel left out, but it is not like that is something only happens on gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 11:38 AM
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You don't even see twenty-year-olds chasing after these men in any substantial numbers. Sure, but that number are often high enough for men who were not rich or high status being young, but now do have their own mini-empire and can do this. Men also have LOTS of time, so low numbers are not a problem generally as eventually women come and they can wait while doing their best. Finally, those older men may not marry those younger ladies, but they are having some fun with them and some younger ladi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:14 PM
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But guys dont have to justify their fantasies of dating 20 year old's to me- when their fantasies will often not happen. Good, so your post is as pointless too. God, the projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:11 PM
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For the team of: "Your body your choice" and "Love is love" Comes "Age gaps are bad!!!! IT IS NOT A PROBLEM BECAUSE YOUNGER WOMEN DO NOT WANT OLDER MEN.... BUT SOMEHOW I NEED TO MAKE A POST FOR A NON ISSUE REEEEE
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:10 PM
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As a man, you are still expected to provide somehow, either for yourself or for others you live with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:07 PM
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We have women that provide and men that maintain, and gender roles are becoming much less of a thing but we developed those roles for a biologically logical reason¯_(ツ)_/¯ Sure, but even women who provide what to marry richer men (???) so there are some innate trends and collective forces that seem to override our social norms of equality and equity even unconsciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:06 PM
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If they were fully natural, people wouldn't need to be forced into them. It seems the "force" is more from people who try to change them or even deny they exist, but the force you describe is more inertia of genders already existing for centuries and no, people are not "forced" to them, it seems most people feel comfortable with the gender assigned to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:05 PM
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It seems gender roles are not universal, but general patterns are found in all cultures: Men do the hardest riskiest jobs (except pregnancy), women often care for the kids, men bring money and food, women care for the elderly, women do important yet low risk jobs such as textiles or office jobs, women usually educate children, etc. Sure, lots of those things are social, but I think the pattern always finds a way to establish itself back to those generalities. I think that is probably what OP mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:02 PM
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Sure natural order can be horrible, but also you need to open a space for it in a civilized manner. Some forms of Feminism tried to override it, so we now are resetting back to pure sexuality only, hypergamy and promiscuity, and it seems most people are not happy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:59 AM
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It is weird feminism romantized male role models and power jobs, while some feminine role models are so powerful and important. They downplay moms and housework, while the fact is that it is vital.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:56 AM
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Women also claim that men shall be emotional and open, but if they are, they leave them or lose respect for them. Do they really believe men were told to be stoic after moms told them to be emotionally open? No, men just found the hard way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:55 AM
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And that makes me sad, because I don’t think dudes en masse don’t want to have kids (I know many who do), I just think society considers it weird to say that in this context. And it shouldn’t be. Great dads are awesome. I disagree. Men may not want kids as much as women, but for them the birthing effort (no pregnancy) is so low that it all evens out overall. Men see kids more as a product of a stable, loving relationship, rather than a plan or a project. However, kids are often being weaponized …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:54 AM
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I agree gender roles will always rise and be there. BUT I disagree they are fixed. I see it is like a collective negotiation that is always ongoing. Yes, I do love and appreciate feminity and masculinity and almost all gender wars and conflicts come from denying their reality rather than living up to those roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:51 AM
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I'm just being sarcastic by the fact women do not even cook or clean anymore, so they are as useless now. Basically slow prostitution are relationships now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:14 PM
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You show me a man who wakes up at 5am to hit the gym, that volunteers in his community, that has at least 1 interesting hobby, that wears clothes that fit, and that understands how to lead a conversation? And I’ll show you a man that isn’t having any problems getting a date. I disagree. Many autistic people have wonderful lives like that yet only 5% of autistic men are married, to give you example. Women do like men on different categories while men are more visual, but if a man lacks some chara…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:08 PM
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a) What have you done to make yourself 'relationship material'? I improved almost every part of my life to be better than average. b) Where do you go to meet women? That's the thing, I do not have any place to go to meet women. All public places are also laud, full of alcohol and honestly not my thing. Regardless I do enjoy having so much more money for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:00 PM
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Pitbulls are a thing. Also cockroaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:46 AM
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It is hard to know because when you have a blind spot, it is difficult to know if you really have such feature or if you idealize such features. So most of yours questions are big unknown. Sure, I may not like the hook up culture and clearly many women don't... only a few top men get all benefits of it without downsides, yet I do indeed would have liked to have the option to explore, even if it was not a lifestyle of choice of me. Regardless, your post is the issue I have with some women here: M…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:45 AM
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Well, women do not even cook anymore, so it is not like they are providing anything of worth too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:47 AM
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Ugly in the sense people are dropping out relationships because they either (1) cannot get them or (2) only get a part that wants something such as sex and not commitment. Both women and men are having issues in current dating market, but they are totally different issues. So far it seems both genders are not as happy. Maybe it is because we have media and it was always like that? That is a good question, though many things are changing in tech and social norms that indeed make people confused a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:25 PM
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No, but the stability of commitment and social expectation can help parts to not lose the focus and rise their children better. It also guarantees some compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:22 PM
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Also from evil women trying to steal your babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:21 PM
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Double income is protection, men can help you as you are sick or pregnant, men often save make more money and have assets such as land, men protect physically from animals, other men and protect property from weather, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:20 PM
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Ummm, what does it have to do with cuckery to make her exclusive for you even without love?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:19 PM
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Personally, I would not care about love as much. I just want the status of being married and having children. Women are OK but I want some space. I can get sex from men because I'm bisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:19 PM
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A good portion of pilled guys fit into this, except they want a real human to fuck and somehow blame others when they can't order up one. Umm, autism is a real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:00 PM
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A point to consider is COVID. We have not realized we basically destroyed a generation's development. I will have a hard time forgiving the enablers of that madness and bootlickers that promoted the abomination of shutting down schools, closing parks, and gyms, while letting bars and liquor stores and stupid useless protests at their own. I have a hard time forgiving these evil coward people. Sure it made sense to take precautions, but not shut down society.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:58 AM
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I understand you thoughts come from a place of pain though and I am incredibly sorry you have suffered. This is how some women deviate attention from their privilege, trying to kill the messager of their privilege using ad hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:44 AM
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I think you did not read my comment fully. It has nothing to do with her providing for herself but also for her own luxury, children, entertainment, security, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:40 AM
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sorry, saying that will not make you any more appealing to make chad marry
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:39 AM
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You are like comparing someone who cannot decide what to eat with someone without anything to eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:22 AM
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The reason why women dismiss men's loneliness is because women have wider social networks Which is granted to them, it is not like they develop it or put any effort what so ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:21 AM
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98% of people (US) regardless of gender have relationships, sex, and dates throughout their lifetimes; most of them get married. Sure, but realize that this is changing at a speed we have never seen before and it is getting ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:17 AM
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This, but also they want to be seen as the empathic gender and holier-than-thou. It is so insane they are oblivious to their own double thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:16 AM
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Just remember it as you get older and divorced women and single moms at their 30s start hitting on you. Remember this and NEVER give them a pass. It will be your time for retribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:14 AM
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Women are never alone because they have social and romantic options, assuming she is not deformed or something. At worst it is trauma from fucking too many guys or not developing social skills because everything is given to them in a silver plate, but beyond that, it is just romantization of mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:11 AM
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Personally I never had any strong social support, not many friends, no one for my birthday or inviting me out, not women, etc. and in most cases I did not care until very recently. Did I kms? No. Did I get depressed sometimes? Sure, for a while, but doing OK. Most of things we need from people are now institutionalized. People often are more a load than a blessing, and most social interactions are masturbatory and redundant. Sure, you still need them, but it is important to know you can be relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:09 AM
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Women deny this, but it is true. All things equal but wealth, women feel more attracted to wealthy men because (1) he can buy her stuff (2) he probably has the luxury of flexible time to be with her and (3) evolutivally speaking, women NEED money to resources healthy children and someone to care for them as their looks fade away. It makes sensethat all women are a little gold diggers because they want the best for their families. I do not get why they get mad at this claim, I find it quite a goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:04 AM
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Umm, depends what you define as need. It is not like men will starve without sex as they would without food. Meanwhile men provide most safety net and cultivate most food and pay most taxes, so yes, women would indeed be more likely to die without men without the system men created, "patriarchy".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:01 AM
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Men need women far far more than women need men Umm, civilization is kept by mostly men. Most taxes, from men. Most infrastructure kept and built by men. Men have no problem admitting they need women sexually more than vice-versa, but that is only part of the story and the hubris some women have is beyond belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:58 AM
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When you think about it, we are animals and mammals. If you look at the most closely related species to us, what percentage of men are left out of the mating game? So if it does turn out that if we make the mating market much like the animal mating market, i.e. purely about desire, then a high percentage of men may just naturally be deemed undesirable. I understand this, but also understand females in nature are left to their own except when they are fertile and treated as property by a male. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:57 AM
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Women marry healthier men. Married women have risks such as pregnancy that obviously may put their lives at risk. Whatever benefit you think women provide can be replaced by videogames and porn, if after sex she cannot contribute anything useful to a home.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:50 AM
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Agreed. In the past, archetypes of warriors, gods, etc. had their place to glorify the masculine divine aspects of humanity, but now we only barely like moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:20 PM
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Worse. You will not get your dick wet like this, it is unpaid labor for nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 10:39 PM
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Agreed, and this perversion and inversion of Classic Western values are making people miserable beyond belief. I cannot even imagine what monster of society we will have in 50 years if we keep glorifying this mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:44 PM
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As I guy, I just wanted a replacement for mom before she passes :(
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:40 PM
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Yeah, and I find it quite intereting how "tolerant" and "progressive" women shift so fast on these issues if it is about their own privilege being diminished.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:39 PM
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You are assuming all men want casual sex, though, even those you approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:37 PM
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I'm sure that soon or later promiscuous women are shown easily. Their friends start talking or saying stuff when they get drunk, parents look at the guy with pity, exes know, revealing pictures, etc. Sure, she may hide it for a few months but unless you are in denial or too desperate, you will know.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:36 PM
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100%. I studied in a community college. I never was in debt. I have a Programming job that pays more than average here in Puerto Rico where I live, and I could earn more if I moved to mainland America, which I could literally do in a month but I'm happy here. I do get sometimes you need to get in debt to study, but if it needs to be over 10k, I would reconsider it and find better options, unless my parents were rich or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:33 PM
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It only considers time. Before washing machines women had to spend ours and lots of effort on cleaning clothes and other stuff. I find it an insult women today even entertain the idea they have it worse for house labor than our grandmas and moms. Another thing is that women indeed will have more unpaid labor if they live alone, obviously. They have to work AND also do stuff of the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:31 PM
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Everyone will deal with nihilism in their own way. You can have your dolls and pills and porn... I will try to make the best of my life even if I fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:29 PM
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Yeah, and that is a disturbing trend. Maybe if our society did not put victims in a pedestal, but all our mythos is basically about victims being always good and perpetrators always bad. The reality is that most victims of crimes are other criminals, plenty of people who are victims of accidents are reckless, some slaves sold other slaves, some Jews cooperated with nazis, etc. If people realized this, maybe being a victim would not be seen as so appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:27 PM
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Yes but only if you restrict happiness to hedonism. I think most religious philosophies focus on inner peace rather than happiness. Maybe we shall focus on peace too? Maybe peace is the blanket on which happiness can happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:25 PM
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I think letting go has something to do with it, but people do not want to let go lots of goals and attached hopes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:23 PM
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Women who are single report being the happiest. I always read this, but so far it was the opinion of one "happiness expert" or some shit. Studies seem unclear about who is the happiest because of the diverse definitions we use.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:21 PM
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Mediocre life is more a subjective category, it has little to do with life quality and wealth. You can have a boring, nihilistic life full of wealth, as you can be poor and create something beautiful as an artist, change the world, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:20 PM
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But according to "experts" life is easier than ever! I believe humans did not evolve for an easy life, and therefore an easy life is indeed a kind of hard life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:16 PM
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Seems like people love to say it is men's fault but women's mental illness is men's fault or social media or other shit. The pattern is clear: men are still seen as responsible for everyone else even women having power.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:13 PM
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Hopefully, but it seems the trend reverts at some point if we keep adding freedom because people often default to the jobs associated to their gender: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-equality_paradox
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:06 PM
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We don't. Unless it is not obvious, men often escape away if the girl says she is a lesbian. She may be lying to get rid of us, so another reason to leave. Except for some overlaps that some masculine lesbians have with men, there is no reason for men to deal with lesbians at all, and many lesbians are often very critical and harsh on men (and on their partners too, if house violence statistics are right on lesbians).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:52 PM
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Many educated people love authority more, even if following it costs them a 50k college degree they now struggle to pay for, while a community college may be cheaper and get just slightly fewer chances to get a good job and then rise up from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:51 PM
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Or maybe educated women want more and more, which is a generalization of hypergamy, so they do not respect their husband as much so they divorce to find better men to marry. It does not have to be a negative incentive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:49 PM
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I believe dick has a calming effect on women. It is like the Xanax older single women love to take, but for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:48 PM
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Which is also a good reason for men not marrying them in the first place. Why marry a woman that does not need you and despises you for earning 10k less?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:47 PM
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NGL, being in debt for 50k and working in a city earning 100k while 50k is for rent is very dumb even for the dumbest people, yet "smart" people do it because that is what they are told to. Many smart people are smart for their field but they love to follow trends and authorities even if it costs literally thousands.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:45 PM
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Yeah, also education does not affect the man as much as the woman because the guy is expected to be the provider anyway. Even rich women want richer men. Again, women are very right-wing when it benefits them (especially when transwomen are in their spaces) for being a demographic that loves voting liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:44 PM
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Why would I need a woman that do not need men? It is not a benefit for me, it is not a benefit for her. Educated women are happy with their choice, no man and no children. Good, I'm happy choosing simpler women as I'm a simple man too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:43 PM
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Western countries that are having fertility issues are having huge problems trying to get more money from taxes, but as population gets older and less young people can keep it, the system loses. So yes it may help women to choose to stay alone and not have children, but at the long run women benefit the most from taxes too and yet government will not have money if there are no people to pay or work. Sure, you can say that it would be immoral to have children only to keep running the state, but i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:41 PM
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Sure, but don't you think that small talk may make the guy more open to actually approach you? Maybe he was looking at another girl, or he has a broken heart, and you distracted him from that and he may see you as a potential date. Small talk is not favored by many people, and I understand that, but honestly that is way better than expecting a miracle on regards of dating. Regardless, you have apps. Women are queens there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:37 PM
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Do you consider starting a conversation, not related to dating, as cold approaching?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:34 PM
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No, because the red pill stills teaches men to treat women well and respect them, yet also advice men how valuable their commitment is and not giving it to any woman is paramount. So redpill benefits MEN and WOMEN, so I think moms appreciate that no woman is going to take advantage of their son.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:22 PM
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Men can show initiative in many other things, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:20 PM
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I think what most fail to understand is many animals have males competing for females. Large numbers of males die virgins while the attractive males get to mate. Yeah, but most animals have no sense of commitment and defined family bonds either. They also do not have civilization. IN nature men only provide genetics and maybe protection, but in humans men provide virtually all of civilization. I do not think women would like to be in a harem either, and even if they do share a guy, that power im…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:18 PM
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I don’t think that much would change except more women would be used for casual sex. But are not men approaching precisely those more likely to be looking for casual sex, instead those shill guys that are not approaching you first?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:16 PM
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Lots of men pretty much never cold approach. It is not worth it, though. Men prefer to ask out women they know at least a little. Cold approach is not welcome by most women, and it seems only women who claim to like it are those who lament men never approach them in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:15 PM
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Is not knowing the person, starting a conversation with him, the best way to vet? At worse you lose some time, at best you get a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:14 PM
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Do you know how many men have even met my standards enough to be worth asking out? Four...in six years of dating lol So you realistically and honestly believe you are better than 99.9% of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:13 PM
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She shouldn't. In fact, that is a better reason for women to approach as there is no guarantee men who she vets are going to ask her out. No point on waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:12 PM
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In the age of MeToo that is not even close to enough to know it is safe. They may be looking at you as something weird or dangerous rather than attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:10 PM
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Or if it's like sex where they think "she hitting on everyone? Is she desperate?" Idk it's never worked. Maybe do not be so explicit about it. Just be like a friend and let them develop it to something further, so they feel they invested something they can lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:09 PM
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I believe women's approaching men benefit women more because: They pick the guys they want. They are less likely to be rejected. Men rarely reject women if they can. They show they are confident and empowered. Men are less likely to be cruel to women they reject, and society will punish men who do. However, there is a huge downside: men often value women who approach less, and also those men are often approached by other women orbiters so they have options. The solution? Soft approaching. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:08 PM
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They do still like short men to pay for their bastards, though. Maybe that is how shorter men reproducing, marrying those women rising Chad's children but with a little chance of a child of his own. Good thing is that women also suffer, though, so it all equals. They are only attractive and fertile in a very small window of time. Men who never had a chance may accept it and move on, but women who were in the top and now fell to being rejected by Chad feel like they are being beaten. No wonder fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:04 PM
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They are still dependent on an infrastructure and labor of men, for protection, most taxes benefits, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:01 PM
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Agreed, they live in a bubble of protection, wealth, technology, and infrastructure kept by men, and invented by men. They may have more professional degrees that are being now automatized faster than blue collar jobs (ironically), but the structure is still there. Regardless, I do admire women as they provide fertility, love and company to many men, and that is good too. No advancement that mainly men make in tech or science would be very meaningful without love and feminity that women provide.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:00 PM
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Yes and no. Humans were made to live in smaller villages, where families knew each other for literal centuries, vetting men and women, marrying with each other while keeping generations to avoid inbreeding, as older people love to do. Now we have cities and internet, which made the world a megacity. Women can only pick a very specific kind of man that, not surprisingly, other women want too just as any object of fashion. Those men do not need to settle. Men do not need to settle anymore. All the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:55 PM
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Women in their 30's and even 40's are often damned fine, and hornier than women in their 20's. Sure, still not enough for men that actually value a damn (on terms of status, money, jobs) and will use them only for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:43 PM
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One expert said that, but that is not a serious study on that. We do know older women love Xanax far more than any other demographic, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:43 PM
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Men you NEED to read this post. LOOK we do NOT NEED you. Clearly I do not care, but I'll make a post because deep inside I do care. I do not NEED you we have prozac and Xanax and we are the biggest users of them, and also we have cats, so we do not NEED you. No, seriously, we don't... I NEED YOU TO BELIEVE ME. This post literally, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:42 PM
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Men live longer if married. Women live shorter when married. Because women marry only healthy men, and men have no problem marrying sick or autistic women, though they are more likely to leave them when SHTF. That is the tradeoff. Women can use IVF to impregnate themselves and don’t need a live man. A live woman however is still the only way to continue the human race. Sure, but you are assuming lots of things there, ignoring the fact 99% of that tech was invented by men anyway. You are assuming…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:39 PM
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I agree just being at church does not make you a good person, but I think guys like that are usually those going because their parents want to. Most Christian guys do have developed some values of honor and discipline, at least to get out of bed and go to church.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 12:05 PM
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No body is fighting for guys like me at church :( I guess it is my self diagnosed autism. Still I think people still get better chances in a community such as a church because new men are always coming and going.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 12:02 PM
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I disagree only in the sense this is only true if you generalize many women. If you do not give them free attention and compliments, they will not be as unpredictable because you are not treating them as most other men do. Ideally all men shall keep attention at bay and women would just take a social place just as men do, but women have many contradictory and false signals from men to be stable on this regard. If you know one or two you can easily get their movements. Regardless some of them are…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 11:38 AM
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What is your country? May I ask. I think most men are against prostitution, just saying that it is more likely for men to support it. What is your country? May I ask? I think most men are against prostitution, just saying that it is more likely for men to support it. but I guess these hard questions make people take that kind of positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:24 AM
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So the idea of society “collapsing” without the contributions of every single male will largely be a myth soon. Yes, but it evens out as women's work is automatized too, so it seems every person gender will just go his or her way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 12:10 PM
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Good point. Recentful women are like that, but they contaminate the well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 12:08 PM
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The fundamental difference is that men need women as an end in itself, while women only need men as a means to another end. I disagree because all can be interpreted as a mean of end. Is family a mean of end for sex? Are women a mean of end to reproduction? Is company valid by its own right or a mean to make society? I get the point you want to make, but it is not convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 11:51 AM
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Fortunately vote is not valid or invalid by income or such, or by your sexual success, so loser men can vote for it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:31 AM
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Feeling sorry for yourself doesn’t help anything. I'm not trying to feel sorry for myself. Believe me, if giving up did not suck, I would have given up loooong ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:30 AM
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Is it as if they did not want people to reproduce and be happy, just be factory slaves and pay taxes and shut up in their porn and misery. Very sad indeed, IDK if a conspiracy, but if I was evil Lord it would be nice plan to make people the least happy yet not destroy what benefits me the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:22 AM
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Agreed, but he can get that sick anyway by any woman, prostitute or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:20 AM
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I've go to bars but often there are groups of friends that distrust outsiders, specially men who are going alone. Social skills help but often if you are average you are already over as no door is opened to prove them. It is a very dark future ahead. It is sad I will probably be alone for another 40 years until I die and someone find me days after, rotten, but it is a reality most men will have to accept. It is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:00 AM
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You don’t need children to have a family. You can have parents you care for, siblings, aunts/uncle, nieces, nephews, cousins, friends. Which makes coupling even less relevant at that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 01:38 AM
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you’ll have better luck meeting women in person It is not safe anymore. There are really no more places for men and women to meet, except maybe college. Cold approaches are discouraged. Best options are by friends, but not many of us have friends because we moved from another city or are autistic. It is sad bu tI think it is over for most single men today. Women will keep finding sex but there will be a scarcity of husbands, yet that does not matter as they can be strong independent women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 01:30 AM
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:(
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 01:19 AM
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it can deepen the bond, because children do not cause a rift or additional stress between the couple. I disagree. I think a family is what solidifies a relationship. Without it, only ever changing emotions are the bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 01:16 AM
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My father is turning 50 and he just had a newborn a few months ago. Autism 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:54 AM
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Did you marry old? Then yes, else not. Love is a trick nature uses on us to have children. Other kinds of love outside fertility are just symbolic or diluted.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:42 AM
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Sure, it is not the point to have kids, but romantic love is the trick nature uses to make people have babies. If you are older and lost those hormonal highs and youth, then that love will not be deep... more like a friendhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:24 AM
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Love is a trick nature puts in us to make babies. So yes, romantic love is indeed related to youth and fertility even if we do not like that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:15 AM
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I mean, not for fertility itself, but the value of the relationship. Hormones are running low, you are seen as someone who was desperate enough to not accept being alone forever, it seems more a symbolic thing than a real loving relationship, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 11:40 PM
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I'm a dude and have sex probably once or twice a month unless I'm in a relationship. Good for you, but statistics prove a good chunk of men are not having sex at all, and the islands of sexlessness for those men are getting longer and longer. No one is obligated to fuck a loser, I learned that for myself in my early 20s. No one is talking about obligating anything, just pointing out the strugglers of everyday men. Very sad you need to call losers men who clearly have autistic traits or were vict…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 11:20 PM
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Having sex once every 5 years or even once every 6 months is nothing. So no wonder men only want to have sex with you and will resent you if you somehow get a relationship with them, so you are fucked too but not even close to the struggle those men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:39 PM
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Poor slaves in dead bedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:32 PM
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If you interpret more women opting out of dating men as winning then that's probably right. They can still get sex. They are far better than at least 50% of men who are single and getting no sex ever. So no, not sorry for them not finding "love" or some other shit because they are still far better than those men they despise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:29 PM
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> Strangers don't exist in my mind. > They are bodies that get in my way or might be a potential threat. So do they exist or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:20 PM
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Women have always been very classist. It is not something new and honestly I would have no problem accepting that as part of their nature if they were not such in denial about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:19 PM
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Most women in US work and pay taxes They also pay less taxes overall because they choose jobs that pay less, they work less extra hours and they split their time between it and house labor. Again, nothing wrong with that, just pointing out they still need men to fill the gap, but hate to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:05 PM
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No idea
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 01:22 AM
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but men are more interested in pursuing women for sex. Agreed, although women are more interested in stability that clearly the state is giving. Nothing wrong with that, I prefer that than those women starving just for having a child they cannot pay for. The issue is that men also deserve their share (sex), but often sex work is banned or discouraged. It also makes sense... if sex is so important, why is not it provided by the state just as protection and food and even parks for fun? Why is sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 01:21 AM
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Group 2 would probably prefer to recieve something ahem in return directly from the women rather than have their money stolen and handed over for the benefit of the women/the group 1 men/their spawn It is basically a few powerful men using violence to take resources from most men and giving women gibs to keep political power. Politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 01:19 AM
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No, children need the state Children need their parents. Women claim they need no man, but by using the government as proxy, they do. Strip women from the obligation of child and senior care and they become slightly more economically productive then men as a class. Women who are having no children are not even doing half jobs that are 90% men. No, CEO is not a common job every women can have LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 01:17 AM
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because the man is choosing not to be one. Or women are choosing to be "independent" by depending on the state paying for their bad decisions to have children from men who already have children with many other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 01:16 AM
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Men also need food just as much as women, and I don’t see how you would think only men can provide food??? Women are more likely to get benefits of the social net and pay less for it. This article is biased but references are nice: https://iqfy.com/its-true-only-men-pay-tax/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 01:14 AM
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I do not think you have to be that extreme, just don't provide any surplus to the government. Try to exchange labor instead of using money. Try to use your cash in assets that last or cannot be taxed. Give your money to a charity you like rather than let the government take it, just report that charity money to be discounted. There are so many ways. I think technology such as solar power will help men and families be even more independent from the grid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 01:06 AM
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If the couple lives together, the man can provide some time to care for the children. If the man is not there, clearly the state is providing means for such care to be compensated, at least in some western countries, specially for single moms. I do not see anything wrong with that, just pointing out that the government is still there as a husband helping, which again, is desirable over women dying on the streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 01:04 AM
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I have two points: Most marriage and divorce laws benefit women more because they were also written when women had less economic power, but they stayed even after they got that power. In the past women would die if divorced or became widows, so the laws tried to fix that. I think that equality composed and at this point "equalizing" those laws would trigger women to claim "their rights are being taken away". Women still are weaker than men, and take fewer risks than men, so they still need someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 01:02 AM
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So a man was basically a need for me and the type of family I wanted to have. I'm glad you admit it for yourself. I think we have chosen hyperindividuality, as a society, as a virtue, but clearly it can be a downside. We do need others and it is OK to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:57 AM
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Only in a sexual context because women cannot have as many children as men. On the context of economy, men are stronger, can work longer and have a wider range of jobs to provide society. Still I agree no man shall waste his life in the system. I hope it starves and all the parasites that depend on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:56 AM
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Polygamous "relationships" almost always fuel on power imbalance. She does not want him to leave, so he let him fuck around even given all the risks and issues. He wants to fuck other women but he get mad she wants to fuck other men and it is easy for women to get dick. So yes, these poly "relationships" are abominations based on psychological abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:33 AM
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Women vote for socialist policy but would never marry a guy that earn less and lose all respect for husbands that lose jobs. So yes, they are like this in this too. What a surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:30 AM
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Women are alergic to responsibility. Women are allergic to responsibility.en for not intervening when they choose to be drunk, or when that woman raped in the train (where no one helped) basically blamed those men who did nothing more than the man that raped her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:29 AM
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Disgust is not a legal criteria. Men do the most disgusting an humiliating jobs ever, and women are disgusted with the thought of marrying men that earn less than them, so I'm glad disgust has no legal relevance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:27 AM
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This post isn't about legality, it's about how women feel about it. I doubt women care shit about what child slaves that make their makeup and clothes feel about. So no, as long as there is regulation and those women are prostitutes voluntarily, what they feel or what you feel is irrelevant. Women feel gross many things, such as nasty jobs men need to do, or poor men, because they are very classist, so men care shit about what women find gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:25 AM
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The anti-sex men are generally religious trad cucks or have some deep worship Madonna issue. That is not true. Most opposition to sex work came from both conservative and liberal women. Men are more libertarian, even in the Right, which means they are more likely to support prostitution more. Needless to say, most of these people that support prostitution do not support it morally, just its legalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:24 AM
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The right is made of conservatives and libertarians. Libertarians support prostitution but not conservatives. Regardless, same happens in the Left: Progressives support asymmetrical criminalization of prostitution (criminalize use but not distribution, which is stupid), and in Europe liberals basically are returning to a more sex negative view on prostitution, so red streets are being closed down, while Europe has turned even more lefitst. So no, it is not that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:22 AM
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Not more disgusting than a single guy marrying a single mother. She is basically using him as a financial service and he has ZERO respect in that arrangement as the child will always go first.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:19 AM
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Because women push laws to ban prostitution or at least punish men that use them, so yes, it is every man's concern. Meanwhile men having sex does not affect them at all (except maybe for women who get money from simps desperation, which is a kind of prostitution)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:17 AM
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I'd say it goes both ways. I'd resent marrying an old woman that used to be a feminist and ask too much from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:46 PM
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DELET
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:43 PM
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I'd say sexual control is far more fundamental than financial. A young fertile lady can easily get a far richer man and pool resources because of her beauty. Violence is the fundamental power, though. That is why the police, army, etc. are in the hands of powerful institutions. Financial is more like liquid power among people, so that is all the power we know closerly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 01:57 AM
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Maybe most guys that do that do that because they have options and can. Most guys, who are invisible for most women, are unlikely to "pump and dump" at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 01:55 AM
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envy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 12:08 PM
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I'd say some men are not loyal, indeed, but most of them do appreciate a woman growing with them as they become great men. Some men like me did not have such women growing as men, so obviously I will distrust any woman with my wealth and status if I get married, because she was not there for me nor she helped me grow at all. So she is a prize, not a partner. Women who also fuck winners only are often not very faithful because If the man loses wealth she goes away. Feminism made marriage basicall…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 12:07 PM
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I disagree because almost all bad couples precisely are doing terrible because desire was the only thing considered. “The human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is? - Jeremiah 17:9
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 11:57 AM
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If options better than me did not pick her up or stay with her for long, that is a red flag. She may also have resentment against me for settling for less. On labia, I mean in the context of hook ups it is OK, so you can indeed see the labia, but on relationships? I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 11:52 AM
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Science is not a language, it is a method.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 11:50 AM
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ups wrong post
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 11:48 AM
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Don't get me wrong, I agree with you on feminism and egalitarianism. I just find it ironic some men work so hard to look as feminists and be respected as progressive just to find they are just another kind of creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 11:46 AM
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I disagree. Even simps are very superficial and looks-oriented, and looks are not forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 11:45 AM
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The wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 11:44 AM
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They are as horny as the men they fuck, though. Of course they shift the shame on those men, but the fact is that they do not want them and they do not want to sound as assholes, so they attribute those poor autistic and not attractive men bad personality attributes to justify their decisions. If only they were just honest we would just move on. Gladly this pretty privilege in women is shortlived and it crashes and burn, so they pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:42 AM
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Many Women like what other women like. This is why they love trends in fashion. Men are more disagreeable, they prefer to have a niche in their own. You see how men's beauty is so much diverse: muscular and tall, but also bearded and old yet still muscular, not muscular but very educated and romantic, not so tall but rich and a gentleman, etc. Very few men are photogenic enough for dating apps, yet outside of apps they have other ways to prove themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:24 AM
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Women are only attracted to 6666 men when they are ovulating. It is sad, but the intention is to have children with those guys and then make lesser men rise them as their own. Yes, it is sad, but this is not women's fault just as it is not men's fault to desire younger fertile women. Ideally, she has some basic human decency and she does not act as an animal so she does like ou even if you are not a 666 or whatever, while you both are commited.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:21 AM
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Identifies as either a feminist or nice guy or incel I love how feminist men are as hated as men who openly hate women. It is ironic how many men do fight for women rights and interest to find they are seen as creeps as any incel. Quite ironic, and sad for those men. But nice list, regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:14 AM
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My flags: She has children. She is an exwife. She had better options first, which suggest I am a second option, which means I will never be a priority for her. She had an abortion or does not see any moral problem with it (regardless if she supports it being legal or not). She had long vaginal labia.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:13 AM
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It is like a diet. Sure insulin is seeking treatment, but ideally you do not get to that point by having a shit diet (unless it is one of those congenital types of diabetis). It is OK to seek help, but if you are feeling shitty because your shitty decisions and entitlement and fucking men that you knew did not love you, maybe it is better to fix that than trying to undo the consequences of such lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:44 AM
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I think meds are pushed too much for a fix over really working on things. Agreed, and I think this has created a kind of psychological bubble where otherwise unhappy people are accepting unbelievable things and embracing crazy ideas even at mainstream points. But we are not prepared to talk about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:42 AM
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I don't think men are saying older women are ugly at all. In fact, men respect older women a lot... specially in their families, such as aunties, grandmas, sisters, etc. The issue is the sex appeal, the sexual interest men have for younger and fertile women, because those are the women that can have children and therefore men are wired to pursue them. I do not that as unfair as women get lots of attention that men will NEVER get in their lives. The upside for men is that their sex appeal is a li…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:41 AM
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It's not all men, it's just they are more aggressive about their problems. This, I'm a man but I recognize this. Maybe the reason is not just testosterone, but the fact women are more likely to use drugs for moods such as Xanax and Prozac.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:28 PM
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Incel is a code work to be able to hate men with autism and arperger. Some women have those conditions too, but as they need zero effort in dating, then it is not an issue. It blows my mind the hysteria of seeing these men as terrorists or violent, while clearly felons and violent men are being fucked by women every time and being an incel is not even on the top reasons for terrorism today.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:20 PM
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Sure, but not from the men they want and without any promise of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:17 PM
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I mean, you have great points and that, but at this point I feel porn is just a necessary evil. Just like cigarettes and alcohol. I doubt we will be able to do anything significant about that except if those men become aware and at least learn to have real sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:16 PM
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Ummm, not all porn is degrading and more and more sites are banning such videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:15 PM
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Umm, sorry, what is wrong with lowering standards to get more options? In fact it makes sense to lower standards as you get more independent and free, as you will need men less so only a few standards such as attraction will matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:41 AM
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Anyway this post is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to try and make older women feel bad Why makes you think that? I think I explained myself very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:40 AM
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I'm sure a bunch of guys are indeed into MILF, but I find it more like a forced trend by some porn companies to not get new actresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:39 AM
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Agreed, but I'm talking on sex appeal terms and sometimes that is the biggest factor for the women that men choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:38 AM
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Maybe, just pointing out how fucked up these men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:32 PM
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Hoes not trying to marry men for the money and directly earning it as such? Oh the horror!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:07 PM
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You mean, like makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:03 PM
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Same, but in my I refuse to date anyone that is atheist or non religious. They often do not take trust seriously and their sexuality seems like coping for lack of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:02 PM
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I don't think there is such a thing as religious trauma per see, more than breaking a leg in a bicycle is "bicycle trauma". I don't think there is such a thing as religious trauma per se. In a small or relatively isolated community, you will have issues connecting with other communities and a globalized world, but also your relationship with the community will probably be stronger. It is a tradeoff. It happens in religions, cults, native tribes, hoods, etc. Religious trauma affects women in part…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:01 PM
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But hey, you do not need any man queen. Be lesbian or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:49 AM
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personalities LOL, bluepill kills brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:47 AM
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Financial control = control over another person. This is not true. Financial control, political control, social and psychological control.. they are complex interactions between humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:46 AM
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Women are less likely to marry disabled and men with health conditions. Men are more likely to leave disabled women with health conditions. It all evens out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:44 AM
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I mean, everyone is indeed poorer in an individualistic society. Think about it: one house inhabited by one person takes space, resources, etc. while if it was inhabited by 3 or 4 people, the expenditure would be distributed, resources would be shared, people are less likely to suffer loneliness, less suburbs to build over natural lands, market will make housing cheaper, etc. I made this post because women often do not recognize this. Men are more likely to admit they need women than the other w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:12 AM
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Porn is enough for most of them, though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:09 PM
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umm why revenge fantasy? Men will not do any better in other aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:05 PM
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Those "higher" women only pick lower men when themselves become low value. It is not like they are charitative, they just are too dumb with money and want someone to pay for her bastards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:37 PM
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Literally or socially?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:34 PM
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“Humans are really, really good drivers—absurdly good,” Hotz says. Traffic deaths are rare, amounting to one person for every 100 million miles or so driven in the US, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Even that number makes people seem less capable than they actually are. Fatal accidents are largely caused by reckless behavior—speeding, drunks, texters, and people who fall asleep at the wheel. As a group, school bus drivers are involved in one fatal crash roughly …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:15 PM
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Just pointing out your dark fantasy is not bread for women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:13 PM
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I was joking xD
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:07 PM
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I'd say it will end civilization as we know it, but there are groups of people that are perfectly healthy in this aspect, such as the Amish. I think the west is kept artificially alive by tech and inflation, such as a sick terminal patient. The issue is that this patient is suffering and those resources cannot be freed to treat better patients, so we are in this limbo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:06 PM
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Lonely men are trusted less by socialized men and women alike, so maybe they cannot realistically fix that anyway and videogames, weed and jerking off maybe the best option they have after all. I mean, that is still better than being humiliated and killed by your tribe 500 years ago, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:04 PM
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Agreed, and I think technology is still changing too fast for society to adapt. Maybe we get a tech plateau for a while and society will actually adapt and heal, but who knows? Maybe it will get even worse and we will end like chicken in farms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:02 PM
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They are when they have chad bastards and they need financial support.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:01 PM
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Look at crypto. Most coins are a bubble because the value people expect those coins to have. Same with sex market. High market movement such as dating apps made it worse, but also the fact anyone can leave you, so now the commitment is just symbolic and not solid, so women also fear being abandoned. This value men put on women is exaggerated, of course, a bubble. In this society, Women do not need to bring anything to the table because they perceive themselves as too sexually valuable to even th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:00 PM
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Women do get sex for those guys and then marry lower men to pay. It is like slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:52 AM
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Yeah, then "all men are pigs".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:51 AM
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The world is grotesquely unfair. The most sad thing is that people who get nothing off this system also have to pay for it and the bastards these people produce. Gnostics were probably right... this world is a kind of limbo. You can find pockets of heaven here and there, but mostly it is hellish and extremely selfish and soul crushing. Did our spirit choose to be born here? Even evolution have no reason to be this cruel because sure tigers eat prey but it is like food to them, it is not like the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:50 AM
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The smell... yummy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:50 AM
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I do appreciate that women often care about elder people, their children, the sick, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:29 AM
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I’ve never had any motivation to date You are blessed. I was like that until recently, which indeed make me more unhappy. Very sad humans depend on others who despised us or rejected us to not be lonely. I never liked life very much, probably that is the reason. I hope I did not choose to live this life in a spiritual level because I feel if I did choose to be born here then it feels like a mistake, at least for now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:26 AM
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I think I have asperger or something because I do not have any friends, and never had been with a woman in my 30 years of life. At this point, I would just like to try it just to see if it is for me, but as I did not care about that during my 20s and never really put any effort into relating to others, it is like learning a language late in life. I'd like to have a chance before I spend another 50 years of my life alone waiting to die. It was sad because I wanted to have children and everything,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:25 AM
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inb4 go to walmart What is that "walmart" people keep talking about? Another of those cheap stores for poor people like Home Depot?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:13 AM
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Not enough women are doing such jobs, though. Not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:11 AM
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TRP has been mainstream for over 10 years, but women did not know. It was not an open movement such as feminism or antiracism. Men just found ways to get sex off women without commitment, and it worked so well that women realized they were being scammed, so now they fuck top men and the good men that never know TRP are fucked, so now those men join TRP but off resentment and no, I do not think these average men will even forgive women for fucking top guys. Now men openly hate single mothers and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:10 AM
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I'd rather stay virgin than fuck an ugly woman, but some men fuck anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:07 AM
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Women will be able to bear children with only a few successful males’ sperm, and poor people will no longer exist, Sure, if you want to share husbands, I'm sure returning to the 15st century before Christ in Sumeria will be amazing for women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:58 AM
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I would not say it is poverty, I would say people will just be domesticated, just as chicken in a farm... being fed all the same, not much cash for mobility, probably designated housing that an authority will control... so not absolute poverty, just zero freedom and no agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:56 AM
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That is what people thought but AI is literally writing functional code and making art indistinguishable from "real" art. Now, imagine 10 years from now movies generated by just someone feeding script into an AI computer. Sure real artists will have job but the competition will be harsh just as horses did not disappear because cars, yet they are not as common anymore. Meanwhile I've not so far seen huge advancements in automated construction, pipe fixing, etc. yet who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:55 AM
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Chinese consumers account for 30% of global luxury spending, and 70% of this growth has been led by China’s affluent middle class, millennials and female consumers. https://www.thedrum.com/opinion/2019/08/15/womenomics-the-female-economy-powering-global-luxury-spending
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:53 AM
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I mean, studying something useless is not helping women either. Debt just eats the cash away: https://www.earnest.com/blog/women-student-debt/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:51 AM
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I don't think good money habits have anything to do with IQ unless it is about managing a bank or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:50 AM
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But expending hard-earned resources on women only increases their entitlement. Agreed. I think the result of breakdown of relationship between men and women will be men will become richer, even women earning more. The paradox is that women spend far more than they earn because they spend the man's money, so even if they become professional, they will not be as rich as if they were in a relationship. On top of that men often fix car, house issues, etc. buy women rather spend thousands hiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:59 PM
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We don’t usually want to hook up with a guy who would literally hook up with anyone. Have you thought that maybe those guys do that because it works and it is already working for them? Maybe you do not fuck them, but plenty of women do. In my experience, men who do not try to get hook ups did try that for a while and it did not work for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:54 PM
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Other men are not my responsibility. Regardless, It does not affect me anyway. If you are attractive or ugly, it all evens out regardless of your attempts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:49 PM
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Maybe that not specifically, but dealing with dangerous animals in a daily basis is by itself very brave, and therefore masculine. I do not get why people project moral issues on people. Colombus was a great explorer regardless of his ethics, Hitler was a great leader regardless of his crimes, so was Napoleon and all emperors. They did stuff no one else would do, both good and bad. Sorry I was not clear from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:45 PM
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They are kinda right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:42 PM
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Agreed. Also, thinking about it better I've only been to a nightclub like two times in my life. If a girl was there for me, even in a mocking way, maybe I get some good chances there after all. I'll try to dress better and have a nice haircut to test it. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:06 PM
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I mean, only thing that make those men pathetic is that if they had women and social life in the first place, they would very likely drop those activities and go for the first. Women can choose those activities too but they are open to the first options. So yes, I said pathetic from the social perspective of them coping their lack of options, but indeed I do not think it is wrong to cope that way and what I consider pathetic or what women consider pathetic is irrelevant if theme men never leave …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:03 PM
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My advice really to everyone struggling is to not overthink it. Girls are just people, you guys act like they are some different species Agreed, but I think it is the difference in social status. It can be even dangerous to approach a girl, she may have a boyfriend around or a bully behind her "protecting her" or some shit, yet also men have to take that risk. So yes, women are people, but they are rich... in status and attention. If a rich person gets poor people around, he may get nervous, or …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:01 PM
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I think a thing that helped me cope with that is that I did not know anyone there, so even if I was a joke there, it probably would not affect me at all. To be quite honest, I did not see anyone being ridiculed or mocked of significantly, so I do not know why I assume that would be my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:59 PM
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Also people have been generally accepting of me when I’m out by myself. I’ve met dozens of new people that way, also you don’t only have to talk to girls. May as well just talk to everyone and have a good time bro Thanks bro. You motivated me to give it another shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:57 PM
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Sure, but these coping mechanisms were not there 40 years ago, so I think coping mechanism are getting better and better so men will have fewer and fewer reasons to find meaning or purpose anymore. In the past, you either choose glory or choose shame and disdain from your community. These men have nothing to lose, no shame, so I'm glad they find at least some pleasure in those coping mechanisms. Women are also finding ways to be alone and be "happy" in their own way with cats, wine, dildos, hook…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:55 PM
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Ummm, hunting is a very masculine activity. So is even violent crime. Are they ethical? Maybe not, but nothing to do with masculinity. No one denies Al Capone's masculinity, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:10 AM
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This. Bluepill does work... to become a moneycow of women, not a lover or respected man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:08 AM
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Working out, eating well, socializing, dressing well, etc. is far more than just being yourself if you are a loser. Blue pillers will just tell you to act like the gay friends to get girls. Never Gonna Happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:07 AM
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If "blue pill" was actually a single coherent ideology, it would say those things too. Not really. Bluepillers tell yourself to just agree with women and be like their gay friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:06 AM
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...you're pretty much forced to go only if you have friends to accompany you. So you need friends to socialize but also you do not have any friends, so it is a catch-22. Also, it looks sad to be lonely in a nightclub. A girl tried to dance with me but I supposed she was making fun of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:04 AM
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I'm religious but I have not got any love at church, though. Not many people my age there either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:01 AM
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Some extremist ideas can accelerate the decline even if they are well intended. I'm sure there are good things in all kind of feminism, but it is no secret that portraying men as the enemy may have contributed to them not wanting to be or even look harmful, and therefore decreasing social glue in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:00 AM
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There must be a way to get the emotional benefit of socializing without actually doing it. I mean, not drugs, but literally I do not need specific friends or people for anything else but the enjoyment of it. I do not want to need that anymore, it is cruel and unfair that our happiness and peace is conditioned to socialize in a world that despised us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:58 AM
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You simply don't need anyone. This. If you try to meet others, they will ask WHY if no one needs anyone anymore. You will look needy, and they are probably right because socializing and finding friends may be the only reason why you are outside, and people do not want to be your saviour. This is a very depressing situation for our species right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:52 AM
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then maybe you have low level depression? The thyroid may also be a problem, also low testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:49 AM
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In that way cold/lukewarm approaches are actually better than potentially "trapping" women you meet in activities or small social groups. Yeah, but often the few third places there are the same people rarely meet and then men may meet that woman like 2 or 3 times and spend those chances just be friends for one of them just disappearing and all time, hope, lost forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:47 AM
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Without a community, men can become very isolated (exacerbated by their perpetual singleness) and have no mentors to help them when they are struggling in life (men sometimes need older men to help them). I think men also have distractions that did not have 50 years ago. Internet, porn, videogames, streaming services, etc. Men can literally choose to live like children all their lives and be "happy" in a hedonistic, yet pathetic sense. Maybe it is better than way than men rather going to war to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:44 AM
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Attractiveness is an inherently relative and subjective concept. This is not really true. Beauty is a subjective interpretation of ore objective proportions, health and purity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:09 PM
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I agree it is sad, but it happens all the time for men doing nasty and risky jobs, so I do not think why women shall not be able to do the equivalent high risk high reward jobs. Regardless, if she is smart she can indeed regulate that power imbalance and get American citizenship and divorce if marriages goes to hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:07 PM
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Sorry for your experience. I would say ideally virgins must find other virgins, but often women are not attracted to virgin men either as most of them are not virgin by choice. I guess it sucks but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:04 PM
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Maybe, but for most men it is not a return investment worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:02 PM
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I disagree because the fertility of women is valuable by itself and men's wealth can counterbalance it. Still, power inbalance thing but women do not care unless they are in the losing side, such as if the woman is younger (more sex power) and the man is older and rich (more acquisition power).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:01 PM
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Their body, their choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 11:59 AM
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They opened the sex market and then they realized best men prefer young women, so now they want to close the market back but it is too late. So they use shame, but they do not realize there is little more shameful than lonely old Karens complaining about other people's lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 11:59 AM
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Is not that a win-win situation? Such as a man taking a risky job, but in this case, a woman, yet both jobs are getting nice rewards for such risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 11:58 AM
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Or maybe let adults that can consent do their thing? Just an idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 11:55 AM
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I agree it is better to be proactive, but there is a limit. Imagine we lock everyone in their homes to avoid crime, or ban cars to prevent car deaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:24 AM
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This. They hate children, motherhood, and also hate family. They openly claim they prefer cats, but if it is about their own power and privilege "but but the children!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:22 AM
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It is already happening. Personally, I doubt I would stop a rapist or attacker unless it is against someone in my life. That person may have a knife, a gun, or simply punch me in the eye and I could lose it. It is not a risk worth it, better call the police.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:19 AM
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As if Chads would have to get married to get what they want LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:15 AM
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This is a weird post: Women often file for divorce after the man left the marriage die off for months. Men do not value marriage as much as women, who want to marry more and also want to divorce more. Men simply want a woman that gives them sex with some frequency and some stability for family, but marriage is often seen as a formality. Divorce benefits women more, because for historical reasons it was a disadvantage for a woman to get a divorce so it was made to help those women. So men have no…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:15 AM
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Do you think the claim is too reductionist?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:11 AM
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Well, there is no way to put the genie back in the bottle. Feminists made sex market a market free. Sure, most men do not get any of the benefits of that, only a few top men, but women lost lots of privilege of commitment from most men too. No wonder only porn-sick men hit on them. All social changes have ups and downs. Feminists today are trying to undo what feminists of yesterday did too well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 02:38 AM
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Where did I give you my stance on abortion? You assumed abortion is worse than vasectomies. If the fetus is not a human, then forced abortions make more sense in case men do not want fatherhood, than forced vasectomies in millions of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 02:36 AM
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Again, what is so wrong about men having pre-sex rights to opt out of parenthood? Nothing, they already have those rights. You are just defending the status quo to keep the privilege women have in parenthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 02:35 AM
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Women's power is men's libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 02:28 AM
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Tf does that mean “stays the same”? Women can’t and could never legally abort “at any stage” wtf are you talking about?? Still more options than men will ever have on a human being being created that he will be responsible for even against his will. Funny how women love pro-life arguments of "use a condom" or "not have sex" when it is about men's rights on their own determination to be fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 02:27 AM
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Are you grateful for women who give birth and thus sustain our society, democracy, growth? Cuz it sure as shit sounds like you’re complaining about them. I am, but often only in the women in my life. Some women had huge bastards that made the world worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 02:25 AM
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Amost all rights were given thanks to technology, not good will of people or wanting to "free" anyone. Slavery was abolished thanks to industrialization. Workers were way cheaper than slaves in an industrialized world. Almost all rights were given thanks to technology, not goodwill of people or wanting to "free" anyone. You could argue that also sexual liberation was a way to control women to open themselves for sex. No wonder all consequences of the sex revolution are suffered by women... unexp…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 02:24 AM
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Ummm, seems it stays the same because women still can abort at any stage or give it on adoption or use any of the 10x more options they have on birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 02:19 AM
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Again why are we waiting until after an embryo is created?! What logical sense does that make?! I thought it was not a human after all? So to stop this at 18 all men go through mandatory vasectomies until they make the choice with their bodies that they are ready to have children, you just completely stripped any power a woman may have over a man. Sure, it took power from women to give it to the government, again, forced abortion is better in that logic of yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 02:16 AM
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The state takes most of the CS award each month and pays itself back. I agree, and it is a good thing, just pointing out the facade of independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 02:15 AM
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Sure, but I think most of those younger people who are virgins have not been in a long term relationship in the first place. That does not mean they will wait for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 02:06 AM
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I don't think a guy will just see a girl and say "eww that girl was raped, no" they would rather observe she is neurotic, she has rage episodes, she buys xanax illegally, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 02:06 AM
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I agree she is a victim. Still, most men do not want to deal with that more than women want to deal with dating disabled men. On top of that those women probably will be victims of men that do want abused girls, which makes it even worse for them, which vile. Very sad indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:56 AM
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I’m also saying that if a woman hasn’t had sex, it’s not necessarily 100% by choice or impulse control/self-restraint. Some women are unattractive, overweight, insecure, etc. You have a good point. Incels say that even ugly and fat women have options, though, but also women are often more reserved whom they have sex with in the first place, so those women have severely restricted options to pick from (maybe some desperate men). But indeed, you do have a good point I did not consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:54 AM
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Well, if you go outside of the main cities of America and Europe, you do find most small towns still discourage pregnancy and sex outside of marriage or at least a stable relationship. They do not encourage hook up culture and fathers often do not allow their daughters to date without a chaperon. Not to mention most of the Islamic world, China (which is not even religious, but puritan), Latin America, etc. It makes perfect sense in those places because anticonceptives are rare or expensive, so I…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:51 AM
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Wouldn’t it be a shit ton easier to have mandatory vasectomies? Wouldn’t it be a shit ton easier to have mandatory abortions and let responsible people's bodies alone? Financial slavery because she decided and had power to be mother before, during and after pregnancy, and he only had power before. So yes, it is slavery because he did not consent yo give labor to a child he did not want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:48 AM
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No I think the best course of action is mandatory vasectomies until men decide they are ready to be fathers then they can be reversed, they’re minimally invasive, short recovery time and 95% reversible. Vasectomies are often not reversible, though, but maybe the pill will help. By that argument then mandatory abortions shall also be a thing? I mean, if it is about forcing medical procedures, it makes sense both ways are acceptable. There are many disable fetus that will cost government money whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:46 AM
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I feel like virgins are more likely to be religious, socially inept, ugly, etc Maybe virgin men, but virgin women are usually very desirable regardless. Heck, even autistic women are often very desirable. Tradition and religion often promotes values (for both men and women) about fidelity and caring for the children that may be good for a relationship. So if she takes that seriously, to the point of being a virgin, that may be a benefit for a relationship in the age of porn and infidelity seen a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:43 AM
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You are right, it is a win-lose situation. I think men shall be subject to huge fees and financial punishments if he wants to relinquish fatherhood, or at least pay for any pregnancy risks, but that does not justify 21 years of financial slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:40 AM
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I think the deadline shall be the same of actual abortion. If a woman can have an abortion at 3 months of pregnancy, men shall have the option to opt out as fathers in that period too. However, I do get women have to pay a HUGE price for any kind of pregnancy, so I would support men paying a huge fee for that for the benefit of the woman and her recovery of pregnancy or abortion. This would discourage them to relinquish responsibility too, and ideally it would compensate for the risk women take.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:39 AM
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I think this argument often comes from a religious context, which is perfectly valid as it has been for centuries. Outside of religious communities and without being part of them, it is unlikely her family will trust you for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:35 AM
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Incels do not want from women anything other men do not want. Only difference is that incels cannot get it. A supposedly "real man" do not want to marry a girl over 30 with 2 children from an older man. An actually sexually successful man may use those ladies for sex, but not relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:34 AM
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Not necessarily, butI get your point. Some girls, not many, but some young girls have been having sex since they are like 15 with other students and family members and boyfriends, etc. Those girls are often mentally ill and many of them end in OnlyFans and making porn. Men do not like that kind of mentally ill women for relationship, only sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:32 AM
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Conservatives usually do not have problem with welfare, but libertarians do. The later often supports abortion. Both groups vote for the same party but they are not alike. Republicans understand a social net is important, that is why they had no problem with COVID incentive, yet libertarians got very salty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:28 AM
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Sure and men shall also pay for pregnancy regardless if they want to be fathers or not. But that does not justify financially enslaving men for 21 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:27 AM
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You have a point, pregnancy is riskier for women. I believe maybe men shall pay a fee or for medical issues she may have during pregnancy to compensate that, but that does not justify 21 years of slavery to a child and his mom, he did not consent to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:24 AM
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What did the child do? That is what pro-lifers ask when women make pride events for abortion, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:23 AM
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Equalizing privilege between genders, which is what women have been pushing for literal centuries, is not punishing women. She still can get an abortion, and women today are "free and independent" so they can deal with it if they want it to be born. I do agree, however, that if both are married he shall have no say on abortion because implicitly he is accepting the decisions and consequences of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:22 AM
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Don't worry, men still pay over 70% of taxes even not wanting to rise any single mom's bastards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:20 AM
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Men should be able to get a financial abortion, but it would have to happen prior to the sex that occurs that results in conception. Why? Seems arbitrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:19 AM
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Women are allergic to responsibility, and so is government with these laws. Men always pay and are forced to pay for the consequences of debt and bad decisions women take.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:18 AM
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But it will starve children. Sounds akin to justifying banning abortion because it kills unborn babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:16 AM
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So does single motherhood. The problem with this society is that it wants equality between men and women, but also want men to stay more responsible for these issues. Mothers can kill the newborn baby and receive little to no jail time. Meanwhile, Men who run away from fatherhood are doomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:14 AM
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Fathers Absence is not a reason to restrict men's rights, just as murder of an unborn baby is not a reason to stop abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:13 AM
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People complain that "deadbeat" dads not paying child support means society now pays for the child but the mother can ALWAYS make society pay for the child. So what if a father can make the same choice a mother can? This, men also pay more net taxes and for bastards that are not theirs, but hey, women at least are "independent and don't need a man". Yeah, sure, they have the state to force the man to pay and society, mostly paid by men, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:12 AM
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The issue here is that women have power to not be mothers before (birth control), during (abortion) and after pregnancy (adoption). Men only have power before, and yet they do not have much power, yet they are liable to 21 years of payments and other responsibilities. I understand women take more risks in pregnancy, and maybe men shall pay medical fees and stuff for that as compensation, but that has nothing to do with their complain which is about being forced to be fathers in the supposed age …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:10 AM
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I think precisely making such pro-abortion law would have worked while Roe was a thing. Now that it was overturned it will be harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 12:51 AM
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I'm scrolling through YouTube shorts and this lesbian comedian was making jokes about how she found out that men in general are not making absolutely no efforts with women in dating. Because when she quote on quote "does the bare minimum" women are all over her and they eat it up. And if you look at the comments you'll see the comments mostly agreeing. And the first time I watched it I believed it too. If men make too much effort they are being pushy and borderline harassing. If the men do not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:44 PM
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Well, if they can help women with daddy issues, be welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:30 PM
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Men's advantage now is precisely they do not have to have children with promiscuous and unfaithful women. Men even convinced them it is "powerful" and "empowering" for them to kill their own babies. Funny how women support all the stuff that precisely benefit men that want to strings attached and make them more depressed and dependent on Xanax.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:28 PM
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Supreme Courts is not there to make laws, however. They have been recognizing that fact for years before Roe. They indeed recognized they made a mistake by making laws off thin air. Parties have power in Congress, Executive Power, etc. but so far they care about politics and when they get to power they do not want to change the status quo. The reason? I have no idea, but Trump and Obama clearly tried to implement a plan and their own parties opppossed after embracing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:26 PM
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I don't think most men even get a significant receding hairline, but those who do indeed lose lots of points in attraction. Regardless, physical attraction is not that important for women if the guy has resources, status, etc. and they justify back that saying it is because "muscles" or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:23 PM
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I've hear they have harems, which is why women assume older men try to get younger women, but they are just looking on those men LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:22 AM
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The wall has nothing to do with absolute attraction, but relative attraction. Even ugly guys, supposing they get fit, look far better fit and ugly than ugly and fat at any age.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:21 AM
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I'm a guy, so I'm biased, I would say this: Guys' "wall" comes slower and later in life. Guys last less than women, so they have less years in a post-wall world. It is easy for guys to keep themselves fit and healthy even after the wall, and even stay attractive to younger women, but most guys do not care so they look like shit. Beyond height, most physical issues with physical attraction in men can be fixed cheaper and faster than in aging women. They can get hair, hormones make wonders in them…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:18 AM
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IDK, but women always get so salty after ugly divorces. It seems they know it all but end up being scammed again and again by the same dicks. But sure, you are the queen and you are perfect and deserve the best, and do not let anyone tell you otherwise. Nevermind.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:15 AM
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Imagine believing bullying other person's kid makes you the good person lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:13 AM
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Same as Obama, he has all power in three branches of government and yet democrats somehow never made Abortion federal law (after 50 years of Roe), never made free healthcare a thing, never fixed crime in their cities, etc. No wonder why people sometimes get tired and vote something else, just to find out it did not work either, but Trump was a natural response.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:12 AM
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Nah, socializing in this degenerate, nihilistic culture is not healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:10 AM
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But what is the big deal? You had a youth window you can get the best men ever. Men do not have a window they can get the best women ever. If they are not tall, not very strong or autistic, they never had that chance. Sure, women lose value as they age, but so what? Some men never get any value. Heck, even valuable men have to put all effort anyway. Even if you are old woman and men are less attracted to you, you had your fun, you had your opportunity to settle, you still are good looking enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 12:04 PM
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Don't worry, he will not tell you about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 12:01 PM
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Nah, I will be a new father as 60 if I want to and you cannot do anything about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 12:01 PM
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bUt tHe sPeRm. Nature made men to be fertile all their lives. Low quality sperm to consider? Sure, but not a big deal as infertility in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:59 AM
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i’ll be honest though i don’t understand judging someone for their age Ummm, just as women do not date younger men? I want a woman to grow with me, not to rise another man's children, deal with exes, past traumas, ungrateful entitled women that compare us to their 10 exes, etc. It is not so hard to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:56 AM
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Yeah, I see at job how older women share when a guy tried to court them just to brag. It is insane to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:56 AM
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Because most of the time it comes in the form of unsolicited comments. *From guys they do not like only, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:55 AM
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The difference is these red pill dudes easily shell out money on scams. They’re the biggest suckers of them all. Still waaay cheaper than paying for unfruitful dates. TRP can save you money if it helps avoid that kind of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:52 AM
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Shit Trump got elected with >45% of the vote. I do not get why people are surprised when people vote for less taxes and believe migration must be regulated, if so many people are struggling with low payment jobs. I mean, it is not like you have to like Trump personally to agree on that. But anyway, that is out of the scope of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:51 AM
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I've been consuming TRP content for years and never spent a cent on it, though. Sure, you can claim I just lost time, but lots of the practical application they provide has helped me organize my life and put a few women on place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:48 AM
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Agreed. As long as they are not harming anyone, being angry is a very valid and expected way to deal with their situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:06 AM
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I understand you, but the issue with incels and bitter men is not that they are alone, but that they expected to not be alone and never accepted that. You can be an incel and not be mad or bitter about it, but maybe just sad and a little disappointed. Regardless, most incels are not even close to the violent and resentful image people portrait them, and it is sad they are also suffering from that stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:45 AM
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Some people won’t get to have sexual intimacy and while that is a hard pill to swallow, these people are hopefully able to find fulfilment and joy in other places Amen. It is sad society has gotten so sex centric. In some times of history, staying virgin was very common and yet those people were known for contributing to society in other ways. Not saying the past is better, just saying it did some things rights that we are doing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:15 PM
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Or just stop shaming them for that so they get comfort in their situation and move on in other aspects of their lives. Some people lose an eye, some people lose a liver, some people never get laid... I'm sure the last is not as bad as the former and yet people adapt and accept themselves and move on. Personally, I failed on my social life, but elsewhere I'm OK: I'm clean, have a good job and have found ways to keep my mental health well without pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:13 PM
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This. People who lose a leg, an eye, etc. adapt to it, so men can also adapt to being alone and, even if they are not totally happy, they can still have a peaceful life and help their own family or find ways to spend their money on enjoying the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:09 PM
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Women will only care about this if you divulgate it just "to be fun" or worse, to spread your black pill ideas. I used to be the former, and I'm kinda still am, but I do not try to divulgate it as much because you literally win nothing but an ego boost. If it makes you feel better, those older single virgin men are still more useful to society, as workers and soldiers and much more, than just fat cat infertile ladies working in an dead job office work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:07 PM
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Divorce laws were designed to help women without husband support. Equality in labor came, but those laws stayed the same. Therefore, Divorce is a net benefit for women and her children, while the man still pays and has to leave his house, even when we are supposedly equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:01 PM
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Yet they are forcing Americans to pay for it, though, even when Americans are struggling. So by "heping" Ukraine you are hurting everyday Americans, so fuck it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:57 PM
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I disagree. Women do want honest men that are themselves, but only in the process of them becoming family men. While dating, they prefer the man to keep a "mysterious" facade.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 11:34 PM
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Sure, autistic men that tried too hard and realized they are doomed, but people expect them to be happy and say nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 11:31 PM
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I think it has something to do with shadow projection. Humanity is obsessed with embracing some lies that obviously do not align with our nature and mind... human rights, some types of love, etc. I think it is the fight between the world of language and reality itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 11:30 PM
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I think I have this issue too. I remember I went to a bar with a guys I knew (not friends, I do not have many) and a girl tried to dance with me. I felt like she was just making a joke trying to dance with me, but in a sense no one cared either and they told me that sometimes stuff like that can get serious so they told me I should just follow it. Regardless, she seemed kind of upset when my group leaved, so I will never know if it had some real interest. So we have these issues and traumas, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 04:05 PM
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Labeling men Ince*l is a code word for hating autistic men without being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:56 PM
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I'd say many men well under 6' can be more aggressive and make up for stature with bravery. Is any evidence of this? I do know some short men are aggressive because lower stature, but is that even statistically significant? I'd say taller men are more aggressive because they can, although it is not based on resentment as the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:45 PM
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"I prefer shorter guys but never dated shorter myself hehe"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:43 PM
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I think humblebragging is a thing most people are not ready to accept yet as an actual thing, for some weird reason. Maybe it is too deep? Too abstract?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:40 PM
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This happens a lot with masculinity and morality. People saying that evil or cruel or asshole men are not real men for lacking a moral trait. There have always been evil and cruel men, and you can read about vikings raping and stealing whole villages, and they were not less masculine at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:38 PM
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There’s plenty of liberal men who aren’t extreme shouting about neo-pronouns - I’d bet that the majority who are liberal are just that. I agree, but surely letting your party be run for a minority of mentally ill people is not helping your cause. Not long ago the police was Leftist, for example, as the left supported Unions and governments, but not anymore because ACAB and other movements that at the end hurt black communities more. It sees liberals are trying to ponder to groups that are not co…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:10 AM
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Lots of Men make jokes like that. Not ideal, but also that does not mean they hate women or some shit. It is no different from women calling men pigs or nasty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:07 AM
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I agree debt is a problem, but is not the cause of debt a bigger problem in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:06 AM
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I hope you are joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:05 AM
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Yes, and those taxes are being used for stupid war in Ukraine while Americans are struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:04 AM
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Let me guess... they have to act exactly as you expect them to to be considered a "funcional society".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:00 AM
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Meanwhile the politicians you that support migration wouldn't take them, and probably you wouldn't either: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/all-migrants-transported-last-month-to-vineyard-to-leave-military-base-by-weekend/ar-AA12BeDM
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 04:59 AM
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Dude, I do not like Trump either, it was just a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 04:57 AM
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That is why I often hate liberal policies. It is not the good intentions, but the propaganda of hiding all downsides and obvious nonsense for the sake of "empathy". I think liberals can indeed create more empathic and realistic policy, but I guess it is not as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 04:46 AM
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You are watching results of leftist policy and free market sex... just a few men get all sex, so obviously most men will be resentful. Still it has little to do with politics, politics came later to ponder to those groups that supported this disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:14 PM
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Toxic masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:12 PM
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President Obama is way more masculine than Trump. You mean Obama's wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:11 PM
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If you mean racist, homophobic, misogynistic, xenophobic assholes then yes. Ironic. That is like 80% of migrants and minorities you support.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:10 PM
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Sure, "toxic masculinity" is a right wing conspiracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:09 PM
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As verifiable that women like sensitive emotional leftist men, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:08 PM
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Probably, and it it is a good thing for stable families and people not resentful they are not getting sex anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:07 PM
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So good you need to force it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:05 PM
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Selfish about what? For not supporting sending himself to die for Ukraine because America says so?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:04 PM
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I believe that liberal policies, like increased minimum wage, abortion rights, more social services, increased oversight of financial markets, renewable energy tend to benefit the country/economy as a whole You shall check how it is going in r/Canada. Not as good as planned. Loan forgiveness makes sense but it is a short time solution to a problem liberals avoid: Education is stupidly expensive for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:03 PM
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Probably best that we avoid each other Sadly, the laws and policy you push for requires taxing the hell and taking benefits the same people that pay for them because "muh privilege".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:01 PM
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The actual political gap is, young single men have absolutley no need for 90% of the things liberal politicians will usually provide. Single Men see liberal politicians as people who actually take their wealth and tax their labor, and they are right. while the biggest counterargument to that, the military, is the biggest tax drain of all but nearly entirely hires young mostly single men and gives them a bunch of benefits, while also leaning to the right. Why would young men want to die for a cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:55 AM
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That is the path of the free thinkers. I just save to myself my heterodox beliefs. I do believe in God and I'm a Christian, but I have strange beliefs about existence and the universe, so you are not alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:54 AM
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For some reason, narcissism is encouraged in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:52 AM
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On average after divorce men enter a new relationship twice as fast as women They are using the inertia of being pre-selected.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:20 PM
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They seem to have an easy time cheating once theyre in relationships It is the resentment women created in them. If women did not give me options for so long, I will take the options I get.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:17 PM
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These are our options: single women over 30 trying to get pregnant, divorced women probably with kids, married or taken women (huge risk not worth it), fat diabetic women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:16 PM
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Average men don't get to sit pretty and wait until the woman they like takes the initiative. They need to put in the work, face rejections, ghosting, pass shit tests, and jump all the other hoops while also not becoming cynical. This is why I am probably dying alone. It feels so demeaning to even try to die as a man. It feels like I'm begging? Only men who have no issues are clearly men that are way over average that women naturally go around expecting those men to ask them out. Of course those …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:11 PM
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DELET NAW AAAAA
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:09 PM
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Men seek less mental health care due to society shitting all over men who have mental illness or trauma I have evidence of the first but not of the second claim... I have never seen men shamed on that, but I do agree men do not value mental health as much as women. Regardless, men also are known to need less social interactions. Even male babies prefer stuff with no faces drawn on them. I suspect men are more depressed when they are forced by society to deal with their problems speaking and bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:09 PM
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Ironic how women love shaming others on loneliness, they are projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:06 PM
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You see this even in film. In the Recent Dahmer series the dad was put as the bad guy, even when the mom was a bitch that never loved his son that became a criminal, yet she was portrait as a woman "finding herself". You cannot make this shit up, they are allergic to responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:02 PM
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This. Harder to ask for a divorce if you will get a worse deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:59 AM
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My comment was too context dependent. That's OK, at least voters got the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:52 AM
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This. Collectivists are often just parasit opportunists anyway. How many leftist soy men will defend women? Probably not many, they are cowards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:12 PM
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but obviously guns can't be taken into every establishment. Sure, and women often vote for the parties and policy that wants less guns. The lack of self awareness... guns are equalizers. Women can literally protect their whole families from a violent criminal with a gun, but somehow they are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:06 PM
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But it is a good point regardless how it is used: Why take risks, even if they are little, if there is literally no benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:04 PM
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I'm sure those guys have options. Maybe try other guys that are not taken by like 90% of women? Oh sorry, I forgot, you rather fuck those guys than give any average guy a chance. You made your bed, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:01 PM
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But what about at least telling another man he is out of line? If it is not about fighting or protection, then women can tell themselves that to those guys [out], right? Why do you need to add random guy* that you ignored since ever, to defend you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:59 AM
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They rather stick up against those women who defend their own boyfriends when SHTF, so I'm not surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:56 AM
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They should keep their opinions and perspectives to themselves. So will keep or fists and protection for ourselves. Deal with harassers yourself. You can have pepper spray or similar stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:55 AM
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This is how it always have been except for a while in modern times when chivalry was a thing. Men protect their own property, women and themselves. They do not have to risk themselves for random women, yet it is wise to help the victims and prevent it peacefully if you can, but fighting? Nah, it is too risky. I will not lose an eye fighting for a woman that probably hates 90% of men anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:53 AM
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If there is a man harassing me, other men don't help. They pretend not to see what's happening. A man just trying to get your attention and meet you is not harassment, just tell him you are not interested instead giving mixed signals. Most men will not protect women that are not part of their family or friends. You are not entitled to a man's protection. I will not lose my liver in a fight trying to protect a woman that probably thing all men are pigs anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:51 AM
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The recent decline of women on online dating apps, can be explained to a large extent, on the behavior of the men on those apps. Harassment, unsolicited dick picks, scammers, married men, plate spinners, inability to take even a polite rejection, etc. Maybe if they did not pick the same like 2% men, you know, they may find actually decent men even if they are not the best of the best on attraction. So I have no empathy for them (not that they had any for 90% of men either).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:47 AM
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Projection
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:45 AM
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This is why OLD is so limited. It only has a picture and a bare profile, but you are right, women are more flexible on their physical preferences if men have other stuff to offer. Also women's attraction grows organically but men's attraction is more on face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:44 AM
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Good point. Regardless, I think that a dating game that puts most men in disadvantage (lonely, unlovable) will probably put also civilization in disadvantage, but I may be wrong. Civilization was always a bubble anyway, it always falls back and regulates back to a civilization closer to hunter / gathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:42 AM
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I've had years with no girl interested in me, but I have never paid for those services or similar. I guess it all depends on the libido. I think those men have many other issues and sexual release is seen as a fit-for-all solution to all of them, rather than just being invisible to women. But maybe you are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 12:49 AM
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You are blessed, two-fold.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 12:43 AM
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Think about it porn is net positive for women. Most men get hooked up by it starting from very young ages and that leads to self elimination of average and below average men from dating pool. Thus women are bothered less and less by them in social life. This, it is a net benefit for women and for those men not having their self steam shattered by rejection and humiliation. Maybe technology, after all, replaced relationships for most people because tech does not judges and it is always available.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 12:42 AM
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they don’t have much real life interaction with women. That’s the problem I really have no idea how to interact with more women after college and school. Bars? Most are partnered and many good women avoid them. Church? Sure, if you are religious, but even Church has not many young people anyway and you have to have a strong morality others will be checking on you, so no ulterior motives. So I have job, but even in it most women are either taken or with boyfriends or too old for me, and relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 12:40 AM
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And porn isn't sex, it's videos of sex that you're not having It is good enough for us to have an orgasm and not think about women for a while, you know, the relief to actually do something useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 12:37 AM
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For the sake of my own sanity, I'd rather watch some porn. Same. No attachments. No spend money on pointless dates. No ugly divorces. Porn does not judges you and it gives you what you want. It may not be as good as the real thing, but considering all the shit the real thing requires, it is good enough. Sad, but men in the past had it worse.. dying at 17 with no sex and no porn and nothing for a country that did not care shit about them. Now it is our time to not care shit back about society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 12:35 AM
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RP shit is mostly not an issue if men who consume it are not getting women anyway. MGTOW and similar movement are instead a relief for women who do not want to even look at those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 12:29 AM
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this is nothing new but so many dudes being desperated by female attention Most SIMPs online are the same guys that would never approach in real life anyway, maybe that is precisely why they are looking for approval online.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 12:28 AM
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Men are still on dating apps in large numbers and in large gatherings. That is low effort... like, if they match cool, if not, it is not a big thing either. They expect some luck but do not want to invest much in what will probably not happen anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 12:27 AM
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Maybe it is better that way, less people will be hurt trying to fit what cannot be fit. People now do not need to feel depressed being alone, they have pills, media, internet and all kind of distractions from the sad reality they cannot control anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 12:25 AM
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I was joking. I'm surprised I was downvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 11:58 PM
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Most poly relationships are disgusting people having sex with other disgusting people that may end up killing their own bastards. Literally negative value sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 09:50 PM
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That is a scary though... you know, someone may try to justify pedophilia and sexual abuse on those grounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 09:47 PM
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Sucking a dick is not actual sex, right? So not cheating. Same for anal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 09:45 PM
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Hopefully
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 10:16 PM
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It isn't in most of the world, but in countries such as Thailand is so common and accepted that it is basically legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:53 AM
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Just know this: Women's preferences are not as fixed. In fact I believe men's preferences are far more fixed than women's... we prefer young, fertile, thin. Remember them that every time they reject you for being short or not white. They will get mad but if they have preferences, you have yours. Women often end up marrying an exception to the attraction they claim to look for. If women did not date short men, short men would not exist, or at least height would not be so diverse in men. Women wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:44 AM
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I'm read children from single mothers are more likely to end up as criminals, but not from single fathers, but I have not been able to find concrete evidence that is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:36 AM
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I'm sure any mentally healthy person shall care about rejection and social cues. If you use trauma to shape people as you want, no wonder why you end up with people who are able to feed off that trauma and use it against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:35 AM
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A lot of men are in that situation and it is depressing to know how little regard women have for men. At this point I do not really care. I do not get why you weight pussy so much. When women visit me and start talking for ours is a world of boredom. I'd rather suck a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:11 PM
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lots of men genuinely hate women but will pretend (to some extent) that they don't. I hate many things women do and say and lie about, not women themselves. Just because some men call out their gaslighting and "it is just personality" bullshit it does not mean we hate women. I prefer 10x a women that is cruel and tell me she does not like me than one that uses me for free meals or gives me false hope for months as most women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:05 PM
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DELET
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:35 PM
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No wonder women end up with psychopaths... they are the ones that do not care about rejection. Women just make their own dating hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:34 PM
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Living alone on the other hand... Now that is something scary and bothersome. I'd probably live like 40 more years. Imagine living that alone. Scary. But maybe I'll adapt, just as I've done so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 04:12 AM
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Because being less social doesn’t mean they’re no longer human and don’t need emotional/social fulfillment, physical touch, intimacy, a sense of belonging, etc. Nonsense. Just having less social necessities does not make you less human, and being human does not make a man as needy as women for attention and narcissist supply. They do appreciate company, but it is clear it is not a priority in their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 04:10 AM
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But rather men are used to it, so it is not a fear feeling but rather a doom, while women do have a sexual status to lose and they lose it harder when they get old or become single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 04:08 AM
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Not only that: Women lose sexual value faster than men by just having a child or being old. Women also want relationships more than men. Women are not used to loneliness getting old as men are, as men are under constant rejection and have less social life. So men are doing bad but women hit the concrete.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 03:50 AM
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I’d say more women can be icy. If I’m in a nightclub and approach a woman, she might just kindof give a look of discomfort or a look like “who do you think you are?” Women are extremely classist and the fact they support leftist policy is mind blowing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 03:47 AM
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Traditions are only now enforced on men, who cannot identify or defend tradition but do have to practice it, but also do not make it obvious except if it benefits the woman, but also believe in equality. It is a madhouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 03:41 AM
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We know all the detrimental effects of drugs, alcohol and unhealthy food - why not technology? I agree with this. Luddite path is too reactive, we need just to be wiser about tech. The sad thing is that we are barely adapting to them given the rate of change, but we will survive. I just hope trauma of the change is not so prominent for long.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 03:40 AM
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Maybe because you do not have much in common with them? I guess it works both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:56 AM
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This thread is pure bluepill poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:56 AM
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It is good if and only if it does not take time and resources you could give to actually getting or keeping a partner, or if you do not care about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:53 AM
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For centuries religion has held back progress by getting people to believe that it's value judgements are somehow more "moral", some people still believe that and will until their deaths. The rest of us have realized that religion doesn't hold a corner on the morality market and we can decide for ourselves what is right and wrong. Very weird your very criticism of religion as a moral enforcer, is a moral argument by itself, to assume freedom is what people need or people shall get is by itself a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:48 AM
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Every day, in every way, I find why more and more valid reason to believe forced monogamy made sense. Sad thing humans needed to sacrifice some rights and freedom just for some social and psychological stability, but we have no better except maybe a technological breakthrough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:13 PM
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I'm unsure what point you're trying to make. Biology itself can be oppressive. This is like arguing against anti-aging cures (when/if they come about) because before they existed people had to wrestle with mortality. And? I think calling Nature abusive is a stretch. It is like saying that lions are evil for eating other animals, or calling a hurricane a murderer. I do believe nature can be harsh from our perspective, though. Technology makes civilization possible, so unless you're arguing for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:09 PM
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What makes a consent BDSM special over a consented abusive relationship? Is consent significant here? Because plenty of women choose to be in such kind of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:06 PM
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I find that if you're not already social your social friends and acquaintances will avoid you, thus perpetuating the cycle. This is the main issue. It is hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:20 PM
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This post is like saying that just to stop being depressed you have to smile and let it go. Can you do it? Of course you can, but the simplicity of the process does not make it hard for most people who are suffering depression. It is a catch-22... you need to be happy to be social, but also being social is what makes most people happy. This advice is good for people who are not autistic and trauma-free. Being social also requires some sacrifice on your individuality. It often requires to follow …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:12 PM
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<3
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:52 AM
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Sure, I do like those things in principle, but we can argue an opioid addict loves the drug and therefore the drug is good. Why not better give them those drugs instead of helping them? I mean, they literally want and feel better in every way with the drug rather than expensive healthcare and housing. We save money and they are happier overall. Same can be generalized to other comfort technologies but at a lesser extend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:51 AM
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I think the last is what will happen. I do not see society abandoning a lots of technology even if it is not good for them. We can barely control some opioid abuse in society, imagine all the other tech.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:49 AM
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Personally, I love the changes that have taken place in society: birth control, euthanasia, decline of marriage, decreasing sexual exclusivity, the whole lot. We are now in a position where no-one has to stay in a bad, abusive or merely unhappy relationship. I also see the benefits too, but just as the pills caused serious endocrine disruptions, I expect those changes to also keep causing other problems. In fact I think that is the reason why people are giving up on relationship... not because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:48 AM
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Do you have any evidence to back up this claim? https://nikitaccoulombe.medium.com/we-think-women-are-better-people-but-theyre-not-f5ddd72ed7bd
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:15 AM
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We are emphasizing girls and women in education, encouraging women to go into high commitment fields, but in the end most women eventually want a guy to help provide for them. Dating experts often address the problems caused by this, though they are typically reluctant to address the shifts that are causing the issues. This explains the equality paradox... women working for typically female jobs in the most equal country on Earth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-equality_paradox
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:13 AM
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I agree tech itself is not bad, but remember that we are not even recovered from high carbs diet from agriculture, as our teeth are suffering, so we shall consider how we are using technology to avoid consequences and patch them, or to genuinely improve life and not make it worse just because we can avoid the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:32 AM
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“…It will only get worse for me” FTFY. Personally I have no problem that euthanasia becomes widespread and people who want the easy way eventually get into it, but it is too controversial now to even suggest that. In a sense I expect te Last Man of Nietzsche to end himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:31 AM
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Ummm, maybe you wanted to respond to another post? This post is about dynamic changes in sex dynamic between genders, not blaming men or women but technology itself as the cause of sexual confusion today.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:30 AM
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I really hope it, but I think the change itself will be traumatic, but humans are indeed a very robust species and it will adjust. I hope it is not so painful meanwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:28 AM
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I agree and I'm not arguing as a luddite, but remember that species also die off when changes are too fast and they are not able to adapt. I really hope humans find a synthesis for these changes. It is clear we are not going back to ancient morality and pre-technological world, but we will probably have to study better the technologies we have for granted and their consequences, and how we are using them to avoid consequences and becoming even more selfish and pathetic just because we can patch …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:28 AM
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I agree, and in fact I think civilization is too young to even try to answer those questions. I imagine in 10 thousand or 100 thousand years, humans (if they stay somehow biological) will be radically different, or maybe conclude civilization was a mistake and return to a state closer to how we know humans today? We do not know. I have literally no idea how humanity will do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:59 PM
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Yeah, I think genders need each other less than ever in history, even when men obviously still want women more than women want them, it has always been that way. Tech gave men porn, prostitution, virtual wives, etc. New rights guaranteed women ownership, self-determination and independence. So only reproduction may be on the table and maybe love, but most humans can avoid that (albeit the consequences may be catastrophic at the long run). If all fails and they are unhappy, they have antidepressa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:35 PM
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Agreed, but on top of sexuality of other primates we can compare ourselves with, we also have legal and social forces, and language, and those can create horrible institutions that existed for literally thousands of years. If other primates had language and other institutions, I'm sure they would be far more unequal just as humans become very unequal after the invention of civilization. I'm not saying you are wrong about human sexual nature, but you are imaging the good of it and ignoring the ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:31 PM
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I'm sure that explains why men are now low effort. They do want relationships but porn fills a lot of their needs meanwhile, so no rush for them to settle or be high value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:25 PM
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Argument to evolution is a little problematic, considering forced sex and sexual slavery was also the norm as men are stronger and women are weaker, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:23 PM
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Divine justice. Sadly it often comes at the cost of social collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:23 PM
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Today, the top-tier men have such an abundance that the only use they have for one more woman is sex. Thus, sexual availability is the only thing they care about: "is she hot and ready to fuck?" Ironic, that freedom made women even more useless for those men overall in the context of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:19 PM
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Interesting theory that may explain why they have those drives, even when consciously they may feel safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:18 PM
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So an obvious gender dynamic is a conspiracy, but "muh patriarchy" is so real LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:16 PM
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Porn gets boring. So do women, but porn is easier to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:41 AM
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I'm glad it is working for you and you are doing well. I hope you both the best!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:40 AM
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Yea. That’s my point. And that men are simping and expressing their intense desire which is making women “walk away” Women are not walking away, they are juicing this desperation as much as they can to get free stuff, favors, fixed things and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:34 AM
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This. It makes no difference, it is inconsequential for the men women actually fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:33 AM
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A lot of women, imo, don’t derive all of their happiness from their romantic relationships like a lot of men do. Men do not want romantic relationships, they want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:32 AM
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Ive traveled the world and been exposed to many cultures and there are many where men emotionally act like women in my country do (USA). Ive actually heard many derogatory remarks about American men from these cultures. But is not that what women wanted? Men to be more emotional and sensitive, or something like that. It is also weird women describe the ideal man as they describe their gay friend, yet those are not the men they marry. On men, they claim to want a sexual "hoe" but in reality they …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:28 AM
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Men are pressured to to get sex and women, and they even have higher sex drive, yet clearly a third of them are incels. So social measure means little.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:25 AM
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Seems like the theory and practice of feminism but with switched genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:23 AM
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Many are divorced men that saw how the family court turned against them. It is natural for them to be angry, which is still more mature and reasonable than the incel movement of shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:22 AM
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Anytime I’ve perused those communities, it’s still little more than a bunch of men circle jerking about how women and feminism have ruined everything. Feminism also had their view that women need men just as fish needs a bicycle, so MGTOW did not invent that view of the other gender. Also feminism is pushing more laws and policy than any MGTOW movement would dream of, so maybe you shall say that to feminists instead of MGTOW men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:21 AM
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I sure wish the ones who feel this way would in fact go their own way and shut the fuck up and leave the rest of us alone. Most MGTOW actually want the government to let divorced and lonely men alone instead treating them as disposable object to blame for male AND women issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:19 AM
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Since you blame capitalism (free market economics) for the issues with men, happiness and relationships, can you provide a source that shows a controlled economy providing better outcomes in happiness or relationships? Also more socialist countries such as Scandinavia have even lower birth rates than America anyway, and marriage rates are not any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:18 AM
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But current dating market is a free market that was recently opened. Why do socialists say it is morally wrong to sell and buy stuff, yet it is morally right to do the same on the context of people and relationships and human dignity?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:17 AM
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The structure of society, how capitalism shapes things But capitalism is also free choices of individuals. Funny how your condescendin pseudo-leftist post defends an open market for dating and yet finds capitalism, which is free choice of people to buy and sell, as bad. The cognitive dissonance. You can also use the same argument for blaming poor people being poor becase they have on average lower IQ or more mental issues they are not compensating for just as men are not compensating for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:16 AM
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That women alone are the ones responsible for this rise in male misery and suffering. It can’t be a lack of social support, mental health care, supportive family, declining economy, the toxic echo chambers etc. It’s women and women alone. Yet almost all feminist issues are blamed to men. Even women choosing to put motherhood away for professionalism are now blaming men for not being good enough for them. Men were always responsible for themselves AND for women wellness, the problem is that now t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:13 AM
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That is the important thing. MGTOW have some good points but many men are so full of resentment that is often is disheartening. Also it has no point... women will not change for us being sad or angry, so it makes no sense to hurt ourselves like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:07 AM
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I think it is obvious we are talking about generalized categories and patterns in genders, that is the whole point of this forum. Sure we can talk about "why some men are violent" but we can easily ask "why are men more violent" as a generalized trend for most men, and it is perfectly fine in the context of this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:05 AM
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I often wonder if hook up culture also fucks up with the mind. If it does, it is scary how encouraged it is in series and films, considering it can easily turn into depression and cynicism that can be deadly. Maybe I'm stretching it, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:00 AM
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If she does not respond for a week, sorry, I'm deleting her contact to avoid any temptation of double messaging her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:57 AM
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So basically they only want attractive guys but are not brave enough to say it in the same way men have no problem admitting they prefer attractive and thin girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:56 AM
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Based. Sadly the guys that will move her coach are probably not the same guys she fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:55 AM
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Sounds like that woman is not wise deciding which man to reward with sex and company, rather than a problem of the male gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:55 AM
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I think this is actually a good reason. I wonder why paradoxically men do not appeal to this reason to commit as they are often more socially isolated than women. Maybe men are not as sociable after all?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:47 AM
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Precisely this commitment gap is seen in people who socialize and have a rich sex life with the other gender. Maybe you wanted to comment in another post?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:36 AM
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I do not get why women are so eager for relationships. They can get sex, men to fix their stuff, etc. with just a simple text message to orbiters. Relationships made sense when society was starving or suffering and families made more sense than just emotional support as today.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:20 AM
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Have you considered giving up but gracefully? Letting go of all resentment and sadness for that. I'm in that process. I hope more men take this path instead of ending their lives or dating desperately. This book is helping me in this process. You do not owe society, family, women, etc. anything and who knows, maybe a miracle happens and you end up finding love in the process, but you will be in peace regardless. That is the path I'm opening for myself on dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:17 AM
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I'm old enough that I've tried everything. So, while I don't complain, I also don't have patience to listen to anyone who thinks they have a solution to my problem, because no, bro. You don't. Yeah, and they do not blame women for their dating situations either. It is always men fault... it is always "players" or "childish men" that prevent good women from having babies they want LOL. You cannot make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:11 AM
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Plus, if you fail at improving your situation, you probably have tried something that didn't work for you. Look for something that will work. Please stop gaslighting men. For autistic and short men it is unlikely things will improve over just being a good male friend. It is better to give those men alternative healthy lonely lifestyles and stop shaming them for it. This is not new... we had monks, priests, nuns, sages, etc. that lived a fulfilling lonely life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:09 AM
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... then eventually decided to stop playing a rigged game If I find a way to stop playing this stupid evil game we are pushed into without feeling like a loser for giving up, I indeed will take that exit and fuck society, civilization and gender relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:08 AM
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...there’s a lot of emotionally stunted guys in their 30’s out there that thinks having a full time job, car, and not being physically abusive makes them some kind of amazing catch. I'm sure that if a guy like that is goodlooking or rich enough, that will not matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:07 AM
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Yeah, but women do not need social skills to meet men anyway. Just as in the past all responsibility was on men, today they still put all social, moral and health responsibility on men too, even if women are victims... blame men. You cannot win, they did not change but we did indeed stop rewarding men for taking all responsibility... except top men that currently are kings of this hellish reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:06 AM
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most guys need to go out and actually socialize with people. I think it is far more healthy to teach those guys to be in peace with themselves. For years hermits and saints and gurus and monks found ways to find peace being alone and they even became cornerstones to society. We need a new lifestyle to promote a healthy lonely life as many men are autistic and there is no way to effectively fix that and punishing them for that is evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:04 AM
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IDK, you do have a good point, but remember they are men out there that have it far worse than "being with the wrong woman", they do not even have had sex ever. Porn is indeed a compassionate relief for those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 12:05 PM
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Nah, they were extremely open to simp and to marry ASAP. Women complain men put low effort, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 12:01 PM
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once you actually are with a woman, you will realize that porn is not able to substitute the real thing at all, Porn does not pretend to be a substitute for a woman. But considering the baggage most women have attached to them, the benefits and disadvantages even out. Prostitution is way better but too ostracized and often illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:58 AM
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If there is nothing wrong with your porn habit why are you here? If porn is doing nothing wrong to you, why do you attack it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:57 AM
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"Sexual energy" is a gift. It's suppose to drive you to actually accomplish things. Delaying gratification (empty short term pleasures) is one of the key components to discipline and work ethic. Sure, a gift that makes your life hell if you have no way to release it. I believe porn is bad, but not worse than the availability of women for sex, so I welcome it as a necessary evil such as is war or legal punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:56 AM
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Accurate. It is a fast, available and quick way to get balls clarity. No wonder why women keep complaining about low effort from men... we do want sex but porn is always the next best thing so why put more effort than enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:55 AM
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