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Show me an online article that isn't "clickbait"
/r/MensRights08/06/15 09:36 PM
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Yep. You've hit the nail on the head.
/r/MensRights08/06/15 09:35 PM
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Each silly post like this one contributes a tiny bit to discrediting the MR movement in general and distracts from the serious and legitimate problems men face in society. I disagree. The posts that discredit the MRM are the ones along the lines of "Wah! A woman was mean to me!"
/r/MensRights08/06/15 09:34 PM
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I'd love it if just one of the many people who repost this could fix the damn spelling.
/r/MensRights19/04/15 05:20 PM
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Women being stupid =/= a men's rights issue
/r/MensRights17/04/15 04:24 PM
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This whole argument is a load of wank and you know it. Hey, you used it correctly! Well done you!
/r/MensRights26/09/14 12:17 PM
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Hahahaha. Nope.
/r/MensRights26/09/14 09:38 AM
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Calling it 'a wank' simply doesn't make sense. "Vaselinepete is a wanker" - fine "I'm going for a wank" - fine "This movie is wank" - fine "This sandwich is a wank" - not fine.
/r/MensRights26/09/14 08:53 AM
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This post is a total wank. And you should know better. 'A total wank' doesn't make sense. Calling it 'total wank' would be fine though. Source: British guy currently gritting teeth at misuse of 'wank'.
/r/MensRights26/09/14 08:31 AM
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The second image is from a Daily Mail story and they are notoriously inaccurate/fond of making things up. Furthermore, they are not direct quotes. As much as I think #HeForShe is horseshit, this is nonsense.
/r/MensRights26/09/14 08:30 AM
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Did you read the beginning of the post, where I have links to the two times it was posted here? Dude, it's right there.
/r/MensRights03/09/14 09:45 PM
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Thank you, I'm really not. I want the MRM to succeed, and think we're at a tipping point.
/r/MensRights03/09/14 09:43 PM
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Yeah, it's ironic how the OP is complaining about bitching while being the only one really bitching. Their naiveté in terms of telling us to stop attacking the underlying views causing and maintaining our problems in favor of simply attacking the symptoms is cringe-worthy. I wasn't bitching. I was expressing disappointment with the mindset on this sub; a mindset which seems to be getting worse. "Forget about the big issues, let's not tackle those, not when someone over here told someone else to …
/r/MensRights03/09/14 09:34 PM
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I suppose my point on that was: are some people here to actually make lives better for men and boys, or are they here just to shit-talk feminists in a safe space?
/r/MensRights03/09/14 03:15 PM
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Thanks for your insightful contribution.
/r/MensRights03/09/14 10:35 AM
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I didn't post either of them, so have no vested interest. Compared with 500+, I'm not so sure 68 is a good result. I simply think it's a bad reflection on this sub when something that is so important loses favour over relatively petty issues.
/r/MensRights03/09/14 10:34 AM
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This story should be top of this sub by a huge, huge margin. This is the kind of thing that everyone should be enraged by. But no... "Let's laugh at stupid feminists" is apparently more important than the rape of little boys. Seriously, what the fuck.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 09:41 PM
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I think the name alone is a very poor choice. 'Sarkeesian' means to little to most people, and even those who do recognise it will view it as a takedown of one particularly person rather than a look at a wider movement.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 01:28 PM
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Jesus, there are a lot of trolls and/or assholes in this thread. Saying things like "going to school is on you" is total balls. Going to school and will benefit both of them in a number of ways (including financially). It sounds like you both do a lot. And remember, the time is takes to do these things is as important as the number of them. That said, from the brief description you've given, it sounds like he could probably do a little more (help with cooking and cleaning at weekends, for exampl…
/r/MensRights23/08/14 12:01 PM
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Thank you - I'm glad I posted in here for your response alone. That's very kind.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 09:46 PM
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First of all, I respect that everyone has their own interpretation of what the MRM is/should be. But I suppose my main point is, I'm uncomfortable with the MRM being described as an "anti-feminist movement" as for me, and others, it is not. Pro-male, yes. Anti-feminist, no.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 09:43 PM
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Thank you for your response - it's very reasoned, and I can't say I disagree with any of your points. I think some MRA's full-on anti-feminist opinions massively damage their arguments. The fact is, feminism exists and it is largely seen as a positive thing, so why not work with feminist groups if the end result is fixing men's issues. Now, to play Devil's advocate with myself - a lot of feminist groups simply don't want men at all, let alone men's rights advocates, so their involvement will not…
/r/MensRights13/08/14 12:10 PM
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First of all, can I just say how refreshing it is to come on here and see a polite, reasoned debate. Secondly, I need to comment on the notion that "the issues facing women are greater than those facing men". From my perspective (based on what I see feminists talking about), the issues I see facing women are largely based around feelings - feeling at risk at night, feeling talked down to, feeling objectified. Things like #yesallmen, which paints all men as potential rapists and all women as vict…
/r/MensRights12/08/14 11:59 AM
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"I doubt it would be "overwhelmingly" in support of mens rights even if we were nice to feminists." I do. What kind of person (yes, aside from radfems and other crazies) would see undeniable facts about serious issues facing men, presented without anti-feminist rhetoric, and then go "fuck them"?
/r/MensRights30/06/14 10:43 PM
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But OP isn't saying being virulently anti-feminist is a bad idea because it upsets feminists, they are saying it diverts focus away from our message and the areas of male life that need change. Also, as much as you may dislike feminism, it's a stretch to compare them to the KKK.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 10:40 PM
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Some of your points are solid, but there's an aggression there that will make some more moderate-minded people turn off. Facts and evidence, not anger, will make people see the light.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 09:12 AM
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We spend more time attacking feminism than talking about what issues we face. That's probably the main problem, for me.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 02:45 PM
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To play devil's advocate, while we might point out the problems, we don't do an awful lot to fix those problems. Rather, men's rights groups and forums seem more often than not to be talking shops, rather than places where actions are determined. This is certainly the case for groups I attend (and can also be seen here on this subreddit). I do what I can, but I am one man - I feel we need a more concerted effort across the board to campaign, talk to those in power, pitch articles to newspapers a…
/r/MensRights23/06/14 08:32 AM
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Did you note the part saying comments are being moderated for the first time because of MRA types? What a crock of shit. My guess is, the issue pissed off many people who made it clear in the comments, the writer saw that the page was getting traffic from this sub, and he put two and two together and got 26,067.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 11:54 AM
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I hate that this post is doing well. The sloppy spelling makes us look like fucking idiots.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 06:33 AM
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Sorry, but cannon fodder.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:18 AM
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I try to think, if this was the other way round, and there was a women's movement that talked about men and male sexuality and how society has 'trained us' in this way, using the excuse that 'they've been fucked over so of course they are angry', would I be okay with it? And I think, no, I wouldn't. I'd find it sexist and offensive and I think most people here would, too. It would definitely be the sort of thing our sub would regularly link to. Which is why I can't get behind TRP, despite your e…
/r/MensRights12/06/14 06:33 AM
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Yes, we do. That kind of thinking is why it's so fucking easy for journalists to find quotes from MRAs that fit their narrative. We aren't some huge, historical movement that has public opinion behind it. We're new, and we're feared, and that's not good. But what do we do? We use the kind of language that plays right into the enemy's hands. If anyone is serious about the MRM, they should try to think about the bigger picture, about winning over new people. Someone reads the erroneous reports tha…
/r/MensRights11/06/14 08:27 AM
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It's not about them raiding bins, it's about having potentially volatile people outside your home all night. Can you really not see why that's a problem for people?
/r/MensRights09/06/14 10:19 PM
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I live in a city with more than enough homeless people to show me that the 'quiet, no trouble' ones are few and far between. Don't get me wrong, I sympathise and hope the best for these people and wouldn't wish it on anyone. My point is, the vast, vast, vast majority of the people saying the studs are disgraceful and grumble grumble grumble would flip their shit if a homeless person set up shop outside their front door.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 01:02 PM
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Then it should be deleted.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:52 AM
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I would like very much for Elam and AVfM to go away. They (not all AVfM writers, but quite a lot) damage the reputation of the MRM with their aggressive, frothing anti-feminist language. Is the MRM well established enough that we can say 'that's not what we're about'? No. We are still a young movement and Elam/AVfM is one of the loudest voices. Anyone coming looking for info about us is going to see the site and wrongly assume we are all about hate. Paul Elam does not speak for me and while I fe…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:40 AM
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What Twitter responses? Can you link?
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:32 AM
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Or, to play Devil's Advocate, exactly the kind of "fat, white neckbeard" we are painted as being.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:31 AM
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I wish wish wish that Dean laid off the anti-feminist rhetoric. Things like this are a great showcase for what we're about, but laying into a group that the majority of people think is a positive thing, sets us up straight away to look like out-of-touch assholes. B-
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:29 AM
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You live in an apartment block where homeless people sleep outside every night, some arguing, some using drugs, some quietly hanging out. You don't Know who they are though and having desperate people outside your home every night makes you feel on edge. The mess and the smell of piss and shit never goes. The police have moved these people on a few times, but they always come back. So what do you do? Have the housing association put a gate up? Brick the space up? Or perhaps some studs that preve…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:12 AM
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And that's part of the problem, whitmatt. When we talk about serious issues facing men (like homelessness rates, lack of cancer funding, boys failing in education, male rape being denied, high suicide rates), the return is often something flimsy like "But why is this picture of a robot female?". It would be laughable if silly concerns like that (it's a real thing) didn't get a ton of attention while issues that are literally killing men by the thousands are overlooked. I get that it's horrible t…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 10:06 AM
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Sorry man, in retrospect I can see how dickish that is. It was an ill-thought out comment. I'm sure in lots of ways your wife is a lovely person, it's just that that view is bigoted. That someone can deny the experience of millions of men and then mock them for it just blows my mind. But yeah, sorry. You came here looking for support and I gave you shit.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 06:34 AM
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Yes, AVfM rubs many of us up the wrong way. It is needlessly aggressive and focuses more on attacking feminism than actually helping address men's issues.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 10:57 AM
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I'm sorry that your wife is a bigot.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 10:31 AM
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Alas, they won't. They'll just use the post title and as their voices are louder than ours right now, we'll come off looking like pricks.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 08:44 AM
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The title of this post plays into the hands of the "MRAs just want to be able to hit women" argument. Please people - think carefully before posting. There's definitely a story here that deserves coverage, but putting myself in the head of an outsider (or even an opponent) this post title sounds bad.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 09:10 AM
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Mods. This is an excellent idea. Can we have a sticky text post, saying that while there is no evidence that he is an MRA (despite what some outlets are saying) we we find his actions reprehensible?
/r/MensRights24/05/14 09:03 PM
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In fact the terrorist laws were based off the laws that feminists introduced to deal with men accused of sexual crimes. Genuine question: when you say "laws were based on laws that feminists introduced", who are the feminists?
/r/MensRights24/05/14 08:53 PM
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This is absolutely obscene. What a pack of fucking lies. Disgusting.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 05:59 PM
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Sorry, misread that as a 'why' rather than 'how'. Follow her on Twitter where she posts links all her work.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 11:15 AM
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To support her and show there is an audience for her work. Provable audience = getting paid more = more articles like this. And articles like this, well written ones at that, in a high-profile publication are invaluable to us.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 08:22 AM
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I wonder if there is any legal recourse?
/r/MensRights22/05/14 08:18 AM
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Nice work. Well done for taking action. I'm yet to receive a reply.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 08:06 PM
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Does this mean I can hold Paul Elam against everyone here? Fair point, he's a stain on the the MRM. Many would condemn the author for suggesting that it's perfectly okay to take advantage of those who want to be taken advantage of. I look forward to seeing them. In reality, articles like this are often met with a deafening silence from those who profess to be interested in equality. Yesterday's Solange/Jay Z article from this same writer is proof of that. Those who are usually loudest when campa…
/r/MensRights19/05/14 03:41 PM
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Barbara Ellen, the author of this piece, has got form for belittling the experiences of men and essentially advocating for violence against men. I have made a complaint about this article to the Press Complaints Commission. If you want to as well, head here: http://www.pcc.org.uk/ The Guardian loves attacking other journalists for saying things it doesn't agree with. I want them to get a taste of their own medicine.
/r/MensRights19/05/14 09:26 AM
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Or from another angle, if they raised awareness of the boys, then the girls' kidnapping may never have happened.
/r/MensRights19/05/14 09:26 AM
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Barbara Ellen, the author of this piece, has got form for belittling the experiences of men and essentially advocating for violence against men. I have made a complaint about this article to the Press Complaints Commission. If you want to as well, head here: http://www.pcc.org.uk/ The Guardian loves attacking other journalists for saying things it doesn't agree with. I want them to get a taste of their own medicine.
/r/MensRights19/05/14 09:25 AM
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And of course, turning the incident into a meme/joke is completely cool as well. As soon as comments open, I highly recommend everyone let this bigot know how she's wrong/ Remember to be polite/respectful though (even though she has displayed she doesn't deserve it) because The Guardian blocks anything that might hurt one of their precious writers feelings.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 07:43 AM
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Great to hear someone is going to do something positive to try and affect change. Good on you.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 11:29 AM
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A critique isn't positive or negative, it's an objective review of something. Methinks you need to read a bit more.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 09:19 AM
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Think about it a bit more carefully. Do we want to be attacked? Or should our arguments be solid enough that nobody (at least half-reasonable) can criticise them. You're being blinkered and working on the assumption that everyone already knows who the MRM is. They don't. We are still a super niche group. I always think about the people who have heard about us and want to know more about what the MRM is about, or the people who are on the verge of joining us and just need that little nudge. And t…
/r/MensRights19/04/14 02:33 PM
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We need to not get bent out of shape about everything. We rightly attack radfems for finding hate and discrimination in everything - can we not be like them please?
/r/MensRights19/04/14 09:14 AM
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AVFM will not uphold anything other than its own standard of hate and aggression. One visit to AVFM proves it does more to hurt our movement than some of our detractors. It does nothing to convince people that we aren't hateful assholes.
/r/MensRights18/04/14 11:00 PM
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I'm with you. It's something that seems to be getting worse, which is to be expected as a the sub grows, but it's disheartening because it appears in place of proper discussion. Men's Rights isn't about shitting on feminism or going "look this unpleasant person did something unpleasant", it's supposed to be about working for the betterment of conditions for men and boys. BUT - there are many, many excellent people here who are using this sub to do more than just bitch and moan. Expect a hundred …
/r/MensRights07/04/14 10:35 PM
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I feel that this man's questions could have been answered without the unnecessary feminist bashing. Our detractors often say things like "when I visit /r/mensrights the people there seem more interested in attacking feminism than helping men." Sometimes, those people have a point. Like here. This guy has come asking if he can be gay and an MRA, and instead of just saying 'yes' we're seeing answers like 'unlike the feminists who will do xyz..." Maybe it's true, maybe it's not, but it just isn't c…
/r/MensRights06/04/14 10:25 AM
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Another example of how A Voice for Men's behavior has colored opinion and casts a negative light on us.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 08:32 PM
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I'm glad you're standing up for your husband, but I don't see how people being mean about your husband is a men's rights issue.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 08:27 PM
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And now aggression? You're a real bonus to the MRM aren't you! I didn't say you are a misogynist. Someone seeing us making comments like that, however, will just get more reinforcement to their misguided idea that our movement is hateful towards women. Is that so hard to understand?
/r/MensRights26/03/14 11:45 AM
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these abusive whores? can we please avoid language like that - it only adds fuel to the misogynist fire.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 09:18 PM
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Uproar is good. It means more attention, and more attention means more people becoming motivated to seek the facts for themselves, and when they do... But they don't. People see shit that pisses them off, and that's where it stays. I'd suggest that very few people see something that winds them up and then researches it.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 09:16 PM
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Example number 897 why A Voice for Men doesn't help our movement. It's the right message, but delivered in 100% the wrong way. How the hell did they think using organisations' logos without their consent (whether it's legal or not), is a good idea. And no, "getting attention", isn't a good reason. It's not the right kind of attention and will turn more people against us. Fuck, I can't stand Paul Elam and his tribe of non-thinking troglodytes.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 09:15 PM
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It's interesting to read these conversations about us, from people (who at claim to be) outside of the circle.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 12:54 PM
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The journalist received the same letter and says the email and phone number provided didn't work.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 07:25 AM
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I fear that the useless contact details in the letter may cause this to result in nothing,
/r/MensRights24/03/14 06:47 AM
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I don't think we are in a strong enough position, or our actual goals well-known enough, to have someone pushing this kind of agenda. If our movement was well-established (like feminism), then it would be easier for the average member of the public to see Manhood Academy stuff and think "that's obviously not what the movement is about". However, the reality is, we are still at a grassroots level where the term "mens' rights" is generally completely unheard of. So, for that reason, it worries me …
/r/MensRights23/03/14 06:24 PM
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They have the right to free speech, sure, but so do racists and radfems, and we don't tolerate them either. I feel we owe it to our movement to shine a light on them when they appear and let others know that, no, this is not what the MRM is all about.
/r/MensRights23/03/14 06:17 PM
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we need to worry about what's working, which is getting more people on our side... Which is precisely why I worry. If someone who is on the fence or may be entirely unfamiliar with the men's rights movement sees their hateful garbage, we may lose someone who could turn out to be a valuable member of the movement. First impressions don't count for everything, but they are damn powerful. It's for that reason, that I implore everyone to shoot Manhood Academy shit down - in the most logical, reasone…
/r/MensRights23/03/14 06:15 PM
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No, berating one woman for being an asshole is not misogyny, and nor did I say it was. However, my point is this: /r/mensrights is a public forum, and increasingly a forum where people will come to find out what we're about. If they are coming in with a hint that we're anti-woman, or aggressive to women, I don't think them seeing us calling someone a bitch, is the best thing in the world. I believe we need to be more aware of how we present ourselves, and not do/say silly things that 1) Give amm…
/r/MensRights22/03/14 08:49 PM
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Clever lad. Keep going.
/r/MensRights22/03/14 08:44 PM
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That's true, but I don't believe picking up on petty things like this that - while they concern someone who has attacked men - actually do not enter the MRM sphere, are useful. They simply look like point scoring exercises, which is exactly what we accuse the feminist movement of doing.
/r/MensRights22/03/14 04:57 PM
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Nice argument, but that's not what I said. But interesting to see the lengths you will go to be allowed to call her a bitch and perpetuate the myth that we're ignorant! This is not her Kickstarter. This is a separate issue.
/r/MensRights22/03/14 10:52 AM
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Sarkeesian may say mean things about us, but this is not a men's rights issue. It is merely laughing at her, and we're meant to be above that. Furthermore, calling her a bitch simply makes us look like how we're painted - aggressive and misogynistic. Please stop.
/r/MensRights21/03/14 08:04 PM
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If someone is so absolutely wasted that they don't know what they're saying yes or no to - and the other party does - then yes, that is rape. For example. Let's take your mom. I'm sure she's a lovely, thoroughly decent, sensible, intelligent woman. However, when someone drinks too much: "Would you like me to take you back home to your husband in my car? It's on my way. I have kids and I'm a teacher and I love my wife very much." "Yes." Now let's pretend in this scenario that the worst happens. I…
/r/MensRights19/02/14 04:42 PM
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You have absolutely misunderstood the point of what I was saying. Read again, but this time, disengage your anger filter.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 04:31 PM
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If he didn't say the word 'rape' then this is blatant misinformation by NOW. Some of the comments here are concerning though. A PERSON who takes advantage of a drunk PERSON, is a rapist. If a person can barely walk and is clearly massively inebriated, and someone knowingly uses their condition as a way to have sex with them, then they are no better than date rapists. If my wife were to go out with friends, get stinking drunk, and then some dude who can see she's fucked up takes her into the toil…
/r/MensRights19/02/14 09:40 AM
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I've been reading her stuff. People like that only understand one language - public humiliation.
/r/MensRights09/02/14 10:48 PM
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Dude, saying "cunt" just helps makes her argument for her. Grow up and conduct yourself like an adult.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 07:21 PM
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Unfortunately, the external audience (the people who she said are the ones to consider when speaking), will latch onto those oversights and use it as a stick to beat her/us with.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 07:14 PM
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If you attack me, prepare to be eliminated as a threat. No eye-for-an-eye bullshit; if you go for my eye, the ambulance will either be taking you to the ER or to the morgue. Alright, calm down there Chuck Norris.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 09:39 AM
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I don't think she is our mascot either. But I do think we can take what worked and make it better; look at what didn't work and figure out why. It benefits all of us and the future of getting our message out there in the most effective way.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 09:32 AM
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You know her?
/r/MensRights08/02/14 09:28 AM
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I guess I'll begin. First of all, HUGE respect to Karen for having the nerve to put herself out there and fight our cause in public. I thought the pre-prepared section was very good, but from then on it was 50/50. Some of the points didn't make much sense, and Karen was lucky it was a largely partisan audience who didn't leap on the examples of circular thinking.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 11:16 PM
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Yep, she's a real piece of work. All in the name of social justice! /s
/r/MensRights04/02/14 07:53 PM
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Urgh. Don't engage. I'm familiar with this person and she's absolutely hateful. If you comment on her blog with something she doesn't like, she edits your words to make it sound like you're racist/agreeing with her/a child abuser/whatever she feels like doing that day. She is a committed troll. Can someone screenshot so she doesn't get any further hits to her cesspit of a blog.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 04:38 PM
-1

Read what I wrote again.
/r/MensRights26/01/14 08:42 PM
7

I made this comment when the EXACT SAME LINK was posted four days ago. "I was pleased when I saw the headline, but was very disappointed with the content. Belittling groups isn't a smart idea, and this article is overrun with statements that make feminism look and sound silly. And while that is the case most of the time, it isn't all of the time, and a bit of balance would have worked wonders for the writer's arguments as well as the reader's perception of the writer as trustworthy. Then there's…
/r/MensRights19/01/14 10:43 AM
1

I was pleased when I saw the headline, but very disappointed with the content. Belittling people isn't a smart idea, and this article is overrun with statements that make feminism look and sound silly. And while that may be the case most of the time, it isn't all of the time, and a bit of balance would have worked wonders for the writer's arguments as well as the reader's perception of the writer as trustworthy. Then there's the problem with his examples. Tumblr. Tumblr? Really? You don't think …
/r/MensRights18/01/14 08:49 AM
2

As I say in the description, feminism has done (and continues to do elsewhere in the world) good things. But in the West feminist theory and feminist lobbying is destroying the lives of men and boys, and feminists getting on their high horses about invented problems deserve ridicule.
/r/MensRights12/01/14 09:12 PM
14

Pro-male? Hardly. Ally Fogg only ever pays lip service to problems faced by men, but never through the lens of the MRM. He'll mention male-specific problems in one breath, before going on to slag off MRAs, blame white men for everything, and pander to aggressive feminist columnists. Fuck him.
/r/MensRights03/01/14 03:35 PM
1

Again, I don't know why you're being downvoted. It's not like you're saying women are the oppressed gender in 2014 - you're simply mentioning historical fact. I can only assume that the people downvoting you are children who don't understand that the MRM is about equality, not women-bashing, or are just fucking idiots.
/r/MensRights02/01/14 11:51 PM
2

It concerns me that you are getting downvoted so much. Not acknowledging that women have been oppressed in the past and attacking someone who says so, makes us look like the delusional misogynists we get accused of being.
/r/MensRights02/01/14 11:50 PM
2

I can't be alone in thinking this is not cool. In the fight for hearts and minds, 'hur hur they just need a fucking' is a massively regressive attitude to take and adds fuel to the argument that we're just cavemen - even though the quote was made by a girl: she's not the one posting it on the internet's largest men's rights forum.
/r/MensRights24/12/13 10:27 AM
6

I predict that all these examples below will be received with a loud "THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE PATRIARCHY. SEE! IT HURTS MEN TOO!" And then they'll high five. Good luck.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 08:30 AM
7

God, I hate that stupid fucking argument.
/r/MensRights06/12/13 01:27 PM
1

Sure, it's a term of affection between very, very close friends, but the VAST majority of people would find being called a cunt offensive. Don't try and apply fuzzy logic to this.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 12:49 PM
1

So bored of seeing this now.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 10:30 AM
-2

Roll eyes, report to FB, and move on.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 08:22 AM
2

I think we can agree though, that - in general - 'cunt' is an offensive word. If someone in real life says "I don't like that word" are you surprised? No. If someone was to say that about a word like "crap" or "piss", then okay, perhaps they're being hyper-sensitive. But "cunt"? They get a pass.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 08:16 AM
3

If you're having a debate with someone, and they suddenly start insulting you, that doesn't make you think they're an idiot?
/r/MensRights04/11/13 08:53 PM
5

"Nah man, Thor fucking sucks." Is. "Don't argue with me, feminist cunt." Is not.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 08:35 PM
2

Normally I'd agree, but using hateful language while we're trying to show the outside that we're not a hateful organisation isn't too smart.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 07:53 PM
46

There are certain subscribers who get mightily defensive if you ask them not to use that language, too. "Who are you to tell me what to do?! You're no better than a FEMINIST." Entirely missing the point that we're trying to win people over here. Using language that most women find offensive (ie, not just feminists) is not the way to do that.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 05:46 PM
-1

Cut AVfM loose, and we can move on.
/r/MensRights24/10/13 10:18 PM
1

The author doesn't usually write about feminist subjects though, he's just talking about 'women's issues' here, and uses us as a punchline. I think it's something we need to be aware of.
/r/MensRights24/10/13 09:17 AM
1

Was she actually a 'whore'?
/r/MensRights23/10/13 11:16 PM
0

Comments like 'it doesn't exist' don't help OP. Nor does 'they have to prove it does exist first'. The unfortunate reality is, feminism has better PR than we do, and the idea of Patriarchy has already taken root. So much so, it's taught in schools. The general public believes it's real. So, we can be clever about it all we want, but we actually do need to find an answer to the question. As for what that answer is though.... fuck knows!
/r/MensRights23/10/13 10:58 PM
-2

While Elam and AVfM get coverage, the MRM is never going to be given respect by the mainstream.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 10:43 PM
1

As I alluded to above (I guess subtlety isn't your thing) I have been involved in the MRM for considerably longer than a year, because there is a world outside of Reddit. A world where being a MRA means more than moaning on a glorified forum and actually doing something. So, thanks for your aggression, but it's entirely unnecessary. Also, as a riposte to the accusation than I'm 'ignorant as fuck'. If I had a Nicole for every time I heard one of you asshats armchair quarterback, I'd be rich. Woul…
/r/MensRights22/10/13 09:59 PM
6

Yes, that's right. All those posts of mine from more than a year ago are faked, and the only place MRAs exist is on Reddit, so I can't possibly have been involved in any real life organisations. And of course, the only opinions that matter are those of people who were involved early on. "No new recruits for us please - these out-of-touch guys who make us look like assholes have got everything covered." I concede that AVfM may have been useful in the past, but it's not anymore - it's the opposite…
/r/MensRights20/10/13 08:21 PM
4

I'd love to see it cut loose.
/r/MensRights20/10/13 08:17 PM
6

And one more time, the aggression, pettiness and closed-mindedness of AVfM and its writers damages the reputation of the MRM.
/r/MensRights20/10/13 04:33 PM
0

Explains why it looks pro
/r/MensRights04/10/13 07:15 PM
3

Contact the local newspaper.
/r/MensRights04/10/13 07:12 PM
2

I really dislike this article. I can see what the writer is trying to do, but talking about making things worse for women rather than better for men, is the wrong way to go about it.
/r/MensRights04/10/13 07:05 PM
1

I care about our public perception.
/r/MensRights02/10/13 07:04 AM
1

AVfM is a lead weight around the neck of the MRM.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 07:42 PM
1

Mods, you should be deleting this stuff.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 07:36 PM
0

Because it's very badly written. Repetition of words, poor grammar and clumsy syntax.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 09:10 PM
-5

This is a very, very badly written article.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 03:04 PM
2

There is so much more he needs to be told. Sounds like he'd find true rape and workplace death figures as outrageous as we do.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 05:50 PM
9

Well done for doing something about it.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 05:38 PM
6

Never thought I'd say this, but well done Buzzfeed.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 10:26 PM
3

Is Salon part of the same group that owns Jezebel? I see more and more crap like this coming from that site.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 10:22 PM
-6

Throw 'troll' into the discussion for no good reason, and you lose.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 09:23 PM
18

And people still say men can't get raped.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 03:59 PM
2

Another word the Thought Police say we can't use.
/r/MensRights07/09/13 02:26 PM
11

AND IT’S SO FUCKING GROSS AND DEMEANING when a woman is dressed slutty in print or on the screen. It’s only OK if a woman dresses slutty in person. FUCK WHY CAN’T PEOPLE JUST GET IT ALREADY? Brilliant.
/r/MensRights07/09/13 01:51 PM
-8

I don't think women are quite as nefarious and lazy as you think they are. At no point did /u/Disillusi0n suggest that women are lazy.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 06:55 AM
-6

Ah, I see. So, 'everything is patriarchy'. Now I understand. You're definitely not brainwashed.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 06:53 AM
2

What the FUCK has this got to do with Men's Rights? Men cuddle babies. So fucking what? Next up, a picture of David Beckham with his sons: "Look, even famous men are capable of not being pedophiles." The sound of the barrel being scraped is strong with this one.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 08:20 AM
-1

So much whooooosh
/r/MensRights31/08/13 05:42 PM
0

You're not going to get it. Yours?
/r/MensRights14/08/13 08:33 AM
0

You're very wise.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 08:03 PM
1

Nicely handled.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 08:03 PM
0

My work is done in my home city (which is far from where I work) and incognito online. I am in the difficult situation of wanting to be able to shout about my involvement in the MRM, but unable to because our reputation is not good because those with the platforms (eg. Elam) use language that makes us and our movement seem aggressive and unintelligent. That, in turn, would have a seriously negative impact on my ability to provide for my wife and kids if it became public knowledge. I'm not alone …
/r/MensRights12/08/13 11:49 AM
1

No bias here. I WANT Elam and AVfM to be strong and effectual proponents of MRA, but it's getting progressively worse.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 11:39 AM
1

I don't need to apologise. I am very familiar with Elam's work and (in my opinion) it makes us look bad.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 11:37 AM
0

The swearing, the aggression. We - our movement - needs to be better. He makes us look bad and perpetuates the notion that MRAs are bone-headed knuckle-draggers.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 10:40 PM
0

You don't know who I am and what I do in real life. Being aggressive and attacking people (like Paul Elam does) is the opposite of helping. Thanks for your questions.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 10:39 PM
-7

With every article like this, he makes MRAs look more insane and unreasonable. I have less and less time for AVfM.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 06:02 PM
1

If someone as famously liberal as Alan Cumming speaks out on circumcision, the knock-on effect could be enormous.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 10:22 PM
16

Oh fuck off. Yes, the people there didn't want to hear a man's opinion. It is not misandric to suggest that men stop inserting their opinions into every discussion. Pop on over to /r/feminism and suggest it's not misogynistic to suggest that women stop inserting their opinions into every discussion. See how that flies.
/r/MensRights31/07/13 12:21 AM
8

As this is obviously bullshit, can mods just delete it, so people who think it's real stop commenting and making us all look stupid.
/r/MensRights31/07/13 12:13 AM
1

Thanks for replying. I'm not really sure this is a men's rights issue. It seems to me that it's simply a case of a woman in power doing something stupid, and while that's worthy of comment, it's not an injustice being done to men and only men. Furthermore, by identifying this one instance of a woman in power doing something stupid, we're at risk of perpetuating the myth that Interest In Porn = Men. Which isn't true.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 08:57 AM
-1

Is this a men's rights issue?
/r/MensRights25/07/13 11:49 PM
1

There are already many women here, and open-minded women are an important ally in combating misinformation about the MRM. Welcome.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 07:28 AM
5

hirsute*
/r/MensRights06/07/13 03:19 PM
14

He didn't write it.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 11:09 PM
1

Bait
/r/MensRights02/07/13 07:42 PM
2

Pathetic. At least Tumblr is predominantly filled with stupid teenagers and mindless SJWs who have never dealt with the real world. Nonetheless, this shit needs stamping out.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 02:24 PM
3

The reason we don't like feminists... Such a damaging point of view. Not all feminists hurt us. We shouldn't like the ones who do.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 02:22 PM
4

Perhaps, but if a woman looked at the name "Men's Rights" she wouldn't naturally assume we were interested in equality, even though we are. My point is, names can be misleading.
/r/MensRights28/06/13 07:47 PM
1

That's my bus-ride viewing sorted out, thanks!
/r/MensRights25/06/13 11:09 PM
4

Terrible site and a terrible post.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 11:08 PM
8

They don't. When they're alone, they know.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 10:43 PM
3

Well, that's you on a watchlist.
/r/MensRights12/06/13 07:36 AM
2

Have you tried?
/r/MensRights05/06/13 10:50 PM
1

They are pathetic and hopefully they are insignificant, but its existence at all is not acceptable.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 09:55 PM
1

Well, I reported it. Hopefully others will too.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 08:58 PM
0

Weak. What do we as MRAs do to censure the people who behave in a poor way towards women while describing themselves as MRAs?
/r/MensRights29/05/13 09:32 PM
2

Upvote this. Everyone on this sub who is serious about men's rights and equal rights needs to do this.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 09:28 PM
7

Please don't use the word 'enormous' without a trigger warning.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 10:41 PM
1

They are good reasons, but ultimately I agree with you.
/r/MensRights18/05/13 08:50 AM
5

The arguments I hear most often are: If they are a rapist, making their identity known asap is a public service (potentially keeps others safe if they are out on bail). If they are a rapist, making their identity known might encourage other victims to come forward. That's it. If they're NOT a rapist, then an innocent person's life and reputation are ruined forever.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 11:51 PM
0

Some of the comments in this thread prove your point perfectly.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 09:59 PM
5

Silencing their critics, often with the active support of institutions that would normally deplore such illiberal restrictions on free speech, is not the only remarkable achievement the trans activists have to their credit. Pot, meet kettle.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 09:54 PM
38

Bullwhip? You mean Arcing, Crackling, Phallus of Oppression.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 08:53 PM
2

Although I disagree with you, the fact that your perfectly reasonably-made point has had so many downvotes shows how lost this sub is getting.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 07:12 PM
2

Tagged as 'rational thinker'
/r/MensRights05/05/13 06:58 PM
1

There's a time and place. This is neither.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 11:44 AM
2

I was willing to read and respectfully disagree with your opinions, but then... Disney is for homos and pedos. What? What a stupid, stupid thing to say.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 08:17 AM
1

A pathetic sexist in the pocket of the feminists, and betrayer of men everywhere.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 12:16 AM
1

It's a shit blog about an equally shit article.
/r/MensRights28/04/13 04:42 PM
1

Sure, I think we can agree there are dickheads on both sides.
/r/MensRights27/04/13 04:34 PM
36

I have personally - in the last six months - helped two self-identifying feminists start talking and thinking about the MRM, purely by discussing our issues with them, calmly, rationally and using facts, while acknowledging that although men have issues, yes there are still issues that need to be tracked for women too. Communication and empathy is what both sides need. And it can be done. Granted, neither of these women were shrieking Big Red types, but they were both vocal writers and campaigne…
/r/MensRights27/04/13 10:07 AM
13

Good point.
/r/MensRights27/04/13 09:57 AM
22

I've seen people get excluded for not supporting men's rights in the right way. A number of people have been trashed for not being aggressive/militant enough.
/r/MensRights27/04/13 09:44 AM
1

He wasn't arrested because he's a man, it was because of the officer's body prejudice. The officer would have done the same in the rare occurrence of it being a woman.
/r/MensRights27/04/13 09:37 AM
1

He wasn't arrested because he's a man, it was because of the officer's body prejudice. The officer would have done the same in the rare occurrence of it being a woman.
/r/MensRights27/04/13 09:37 AM
-5

The difference here is, it's a depressing story with a proper MRM link - not just 'feminists are nasty'.
/r/MensRights27/04/13 12:11 AM
16

You've got the right idea.
/r/MensRights27/04/13 12:06 AM
-16

Read: Anyone who dissents from the MRA hivemind is a fraud. This is the kind of silliness that stops us from being a cohesive movement.
/r/MensRights27/04/13 12:05 AM
1

While I think it's important to have stories highlighting how the system is biased towards men, I agree with this to an extent, as an increasing number of posts have fuck all to do with Men's Rights and are just about shitty people who happen to be women.
/r/MensRights27/04/13 12:03 AM
-5

This is not about Men's Rights, could have happened to either sex and the fact it was a female police officer makes no difference to the story.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 06:06 PM
1

Ogled*
/r/MensRights24/04/13 04:47 PM
1

Well hell, I think I've commented there before to call them out on their shit.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 08:01 PM
1

So let's assume, then. Rather than adopting this ridiculous approach that everyone not with us right now will never be with us, and is therefore the enemy. We all know of previously committed feminists who started to understand, appreciate and even campaign on behalf of, men's rights. Education and conversation, not aggression. It's the only way to truly win hearts and minds.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 07:59 PM
5

Don't you think we need to understand what people are thinking, so we can counter the ideas that are wrong and hopefully change some minds?
/r/MensRights23/04/13 01:02 PM
8

Influential doesn't mean 'on the TV all the time'. It worries me that our movement for male equality is seen as 'a sewer'. i'd be interested to know which aspects of the Men's Rights Movement Willard Foxton finds distasteful. Is it our fight to end the outdated fact that mothers are given preferential treatment in court - both in terms of child custody and sentencing for equal crimes? Is it the fact that men are routinely named as alleged rapists, before any evidence has been provided. Often, th…
/r/MensRights23/04/13 12:40 PM
2

Ultimately it's up to the person it happened to. If he decides that it isn't scarring or traumatic then good for him. It's not. Let's say (heaven forbid) it was a child, too young to know it's wrong. Or even an adult, so mentally scarred that they believe they deserve everything they get. It's our job, as society, to decide and uphold what is and isn't right. Whether this guy thinks so or not, it's clear that he was sexually assaulted.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 10:21 PM
1

Don't know if he/she is trolling, genuinely brainwashed, or just an idiot.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 10:18 PM
6

This is a very badly written article.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 08:05 AM
5

This is not a MRM issue. It's just another pointless 'ha ha, bitches be crazy' post.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 05:57 PM
0

I'm sure we can cherry pick plenty of examples of 100% women. But we're not that petty.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 05:55 PM
8

Worrying thing is, it's a well-read site with some respected writers. And I'm not sure he was trying to be funny, just a cunt. Which he succeeded in.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 03:29 PM
6

Pro tip! You've done this before.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 07:44 PM
4

Oh God, thank you. I got two minutes in and wanted to stab everyone, including myself.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 05:49 PM
13

This dismissive and aggressive behaviour is so, so hard to combat in real life. You can either continue talking in a measured way, but your message is lost. You can walk away, you get called a coward. You raise your fucking voice back, and you've lost. Sure, we can break through to people afterwards and show them how ridiculously people like this behave, but when dealing with them on the ground... what the fuck do you do?
/r/MensRights11/04/13 07:15 AM
5

It's a clumsy word that sounds like a far-too-late response to feminism.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 05:37 PM
1

Anyone have a link to him talking about Adria Richards?
/r/MensRights05/04/13 11:29 PM
1

Good luck, brother.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 02:13 PM
3

This blogger has got completely the wrong end of the stick. It's used to belittle men and humiliate them for daring to feel ill. What a fucking moron.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 11:08 PM
1

I am that 'heavily upvoted idiotic concern troll'. Read my post again. Read all my comments again. Read everything I have ever posted in /r/mensrights and realise how wrong you are. I never said we shouldn't speak out against feminism, I said there is too much focus on petty stuff and that the posts on /r/mensrights and the language used means WE ARE PERCEIVED as whiny little boys. Please, try to pay attention. And I think the level of response to the post shows that I'm not the only one who thi…
/r/MensRights02/04/13 09:57 PM
1

Copy and paste.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 06:14 AM
1

We need to stop making that our raison d'etre. Don't be silly.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 06:08 AM
8

This is fucking hilarious.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 08:51 PM
1

I know very few people who wouldn't sign it.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 08:08 PM
1

Sorry for the delayed response, I've been stuck on mobile Reddit for 48hrs, and a whole load of these responses were not flagged up. I'm not new - far from it, I've been fighting the good fight for a long, long time, since back in college. I am just tired of seeing the same old complaints made using the reductive language. If this was a secret forum, that would be one thing, but it's not - this is one of the first places people come to if they search for Mens Rights, and what are they met with? …
/r/MensRights01/04/13 08:07 PM
1

It's neither. It's letting these people know that their worldview is damaging and dangerous. I said nothing about trolling. Jesus Christ, I'm so sick of the pathetic way that term is bandied about.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 05:40 PM
2

Yeah, they scaled Parliament and allsorts got tons of exposure, lost its way after a while though and got too hate-fuelled?
/r/MensRights01/04/13 03:51 PM
1

It would be another thing entirely if we could organise strikes on these blogs and Twitter accounts - let these hateful idiots know how they are wrong.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 03:50 PM
2

Thanks, I'll take a look. Are you familiar with Fathers 4 Justice? I have worked with them in the past and got their stories into the press.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 02:42 PM
2

That's a great idea, and one that will help identify repeat offenders before they can ruin more lives.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 02:34 PM
1

I never said to stop criticising feminism, so in this case, yes - it is in your imagination. Read what I wrote again, as a whole - don't just pick out the bits you want to twist and take offence at.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 02:28 PM
2

That's fucking terrifying.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 02:26 PM
3

Not what I think, but it's how we're perceived.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 02:23 PM
1

Explain how I'm a coward.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 02:22 PM
2

Because no one with a media presence stands up for men and boys. Also, the BBC is terrifyingly leftwing and scared to say anything that could be construed as un-PC.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 01:30 PM
2

And yeah, it's hard to believe you have no secondary agenda with this post. I say, I want Men's Rights to be stronger, and in that whole message there are a couple of negative terms, and that means I have a secondary agenda? That's utterly ridiculous.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 01:26 PM
1

Thanks - will be sure to read/watch.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 11:05 AM
0

Thanks for this post. I agree with you that it's important to vent, and the way we go about venting is important.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 11:03 AM
0

This is true, but it's a forum we can use to get organized. We have the numbers, we have the passion.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 10:56 AM
1

Not my opinion, but it is how we're viewed!
/r/MensRights01/04/13 10:53 AM
-1

Right, I get it now. Anything not part of the circlejerk is 'shame language'. You know what is shameful? This attempt to shut down conversation. Militant feminist tactic, I believe.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 10:51 AM
-1

Urgh, it's easy to throw out troll accusations.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 10:42 AM
1

I don't think you can make that presumption
/r/MensRights01/04/13 10:41 AM
5

I don't believe I came in 'all guns blazing' and have been respectful throughout, even to those people slinging mud my way. Yes, perhaps I should have laid down some more ideas, but my overall message remains: let's try harder and not just throw stones over the wall hoping one hits a relevant target.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 11:01 PM
1

I think you're right.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 10:56 PM
0

I think equality is a noble goal. We all get treated the same by employers, by police, by the courts, by the media.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 10:51 PM
-4

That shouldn't be 'clear' because that's not what I think. What I do think, though, is that this scattergun 'everyone is against us' approach isn't helping us win. Just look at the comments directed at me. It's clear that I am a committed MRA, but simply because I disagreed with the party line by a tiny degree, I am the target of unfounded attacks accusing me of allsorts - it's insanity.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 10:49 PM
10

Proto feminism. Giving women the right to vote. The right to own property. That kind of stuff.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 10:16 PM
-3

This author is a moron.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 10:10 PM
8

No. A troll would come in, call us all faggot rape apologists and leave.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 10:03 PM
17

Ridiculous backwards-think where everything is an attack on women. FFS.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 09:57 PM
0

Get those defence shields up man, you're about to get peppered with accusations that you're both a feminist and an SRS spy. Oh yeah, and an idiot. And a faggot.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 09:55 PM
9

Targeting the specific elements of feminism that are harmful will be more powerful than simply attacking feminism as a whole.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 09:51 PM
-2

Yes, it must be awful when people don't agree with you.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 09:46 PM
-6

I think this sub can used as a central resource for real world change. Thanks for being patronising bro.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 09:44 PM
12

It's disgusting that you went throgh that dude. Nobody should ever have to again.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 09:39 PM
6

Fair points.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 09:35 PM
2

I am in no way trolling.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 09:33 PM
0

The average one doesn't. The average 'feminist' is normally someone who doesn't even realise it's a social/political movement. They have no clue what is being done in their name. I remember when I asked my boss if she was a feminist. She said yes, but was then appalled when I laid down the facts. Clueless.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 08:12 PM
2

That's fair enough. I think I addressed your concerns somewhere else. Forgive me for not being particularly fast - am on my phone.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 07:52 PM
-3

That's not what I intended, and I apologise if that was the interpretation. It's important to share, to vent, of course it is. What led to my post was seeing one too many complaints about something (that I, perhaps wrongly, regarded as) petty and not enough serious discussion.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 07:51 PM
-6

I can agree that in principle it was a force for good because it gave women parity with men in many areas. Which was my point. THAT just begs for a hearty "Go fuck yourself" by trying to use shaming tactics to get us to do what YOU think a man is supposed to be doing (whatever that is exactly) It's that bullshit attitude of "Don't complain...just take it !" that got us into this mess in the first place. I didn't say that. I didn't even allude to that. Don't project. As for what I think being a m…
/r/MensRights31/03/13 07:38 PM
1

True. Many people who identify as feminists have NO IDEA what it means in 2013 and what they are putting their names to. They aren't evil. They are ignorant.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 07:36 PM
12

That would definitely instigate debate. Even people who had never thought otherwise would think "What kind of prick thinks otherwise?!" and a simple Google search would lead them to the answer and do the educating for us.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 07:35 PM
-3

I'm not trolling anyone. I'm not due that word means what you think it does
/r/MensRights31/03/13 07:22 PM
34

That's fair. And to be honest, I don't know. What I do know, however, is the constant 'Boooo! Feminists are baaaaaad' rhetoric doesn't help us. Not with feminists who can use our petty namecalling as ammunition (yeah, they do it to us, but we need to be better than them) and not with intelligent men who might want to join us, but only see aggression. I guess one of the first things we need is a real, cast iron manifesto, and use our community and the smart, passionate people in it, to create rea…
/r/MensRights31/03/13 07:20 PM
-8

In what way am I a coward, Captain Aggression?
/r/MensRights31/03/13 07:15 PM
3

What in anything I said is anti-male? I simply want us to be better.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 07:14 PM
6

It doesn't, because I'm not.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 07:14 PM
0

Today, it is. It has splintered into a multitude of disparate groups, many working against eachother. It's going to self destruct if it continues, so let's get to work in earnest and take advantage of their lack of focus.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 04:25 PM
3

I disagree. I think anyone who can't form a point without calling a woman a dumb bitch or a cunt or some other derogatory term, needs to find somewhere else until they can engage in debate and conversation in a way that doesn't perpetuate stereotypes about MRAs.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 10:43 AM
1

One point, re: drug laws. They are drug LAWS. And drug users know they are breaking them before they do anything. They are not rules just created recently to catch people out - it's pretty well known that these things are against the law. If someone can't control themselves, then they deserve to face the consequences. Devil's advocate, out.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 10:40 AM
9

Whooshing on a mass scale, here.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 11:07 PM
-1

That's more like it.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 07:03 AM
-1

Language like that hurts the movement. We need to be better than that.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 06:27 PM
-14

If you're not here to help, then leave /Mensrights to those of us who care about equality and standing up for unfairly treated men and boys.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 05:30 PM
3

That's not what I said. But language like 'stupid bitch' doesn't help us in arguing against the militant feminist idea that MRAs are all aggressive idiots.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 05:25 PM
34

Language like 'stupid bitch' doesn't help.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 05:01 PM
9

Is this all it seems? Or has SendGrid's social media been hacked?
/r/MensRights21/03/13 04:53 PM
1

Happens in the UK too.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 08:52 PM
3

Family should be the one group to never turn their back on a member, ever. What if they're a rapist?
/r/MensRights27/02/13 02:18 PM
2

This is a nice idea, in a very badly written article.
/r/MensRights23/02/13 06:16 AM
22

We don't want to breed anti-feminists, we want to nurture pro-equality.
/r/MensRights23/02/13 06:15 AM
2

Is no one else concerned by the sexist language used in the article? Few too many instances of "he" for my liking.
/r/MensRights17/02/13 10:30 AM
1

I'm sorry some people here are being dicks to you. Unfortunately, as /mensrights grows, it gets more stupid subscribers. Mostly teenagers.
/r/MensRights16/02/13 09:21 PM
5

We need a list, certainly, but this is largely repetitive and in many cases, petty.
/r/MensRights16/02/13 09:09 PM
2

Thank you.
/r/MensRights09/02/13 11:45 PM
6

Yes!
/r/MensRights08/02/13 08:31 PM
1

Don't be ignorant. Don't be obtuse. Don't be a bully.
/r/MensRights08/02/13 08:29 PM
0

Jokes aside, I see nothing wrong with this.
/r/MensRights02/02/13 05:43 PM
2

This wasn't part of a feminist agenda and nothing was being covered up.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 05:38 PM
2

If it hadn't happened already, she'll claim she has done nothing because the criticism has caused depression.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 08:21 AM
1

Not a helpful thing to say. We're about trying to fight aggression with intelligence.
/r/MensRights26/01/13 10:37 AM
2

Okay, he started off by being impatient but she escalated things to a ridiculous level. In terms of blame, he has to take a tiny sliver (maybe 5%) for instigating, but she's the bad guy here no doubt. BUT Until this goes to court and she is let off for no good reason, this has NO place in /mensrights. This isn't about equality or feminism, this is just a woman attacking a man. Yes, that's shit, but it's not about sex or gender now, it's about one person (who happens to be a woman) being a cunt. …
/r/MensRights26/01/13 10:33 AM
0

I don't know that this is a MRM issue. Seems to me to be more of a consumer rights/airline staff are cunts issue.
/r/MensRights22/01/13 06:57 PM
3

No. The purpose of that line was to ramp up the 'otherness' of the situation and create an even more visceral sense of disgust in the reader. Which it succeeded in doing admirably.
/r/MensRights22/01/13 06:33 PM
4

This seems like a standard revenge film. Move along people, nothing to see here.
/r/MensRights21/01/13 04:58 PM
4

A large part of the problem is that many of these FB posts etc are from teenagers having online arguments with parents and other teenagers. The opinions are childish and the posters have no real idea of what MRA involves, the posts are just 'Look. I showed her who's smartest' and are not helpful to the movement.
/r/MensRights20/01/13 05:52 PM
1

Off topic - r/trees is that way...
/r/MensRights20/01/13 09:24 AM
2

Nice work! I think the last paragraph needs a rethink. The equal pay thing is actually still a problem in some industries so weakens the argument.
/r/MensRights17/01/13 03:26 PM
1

Just the tip, though.
/r/MensRights02/01/13 10:39 AM
2

These comments are expected from the deliciously liberal hivemind at Reddit.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 06:37 PM
3

Because it shows they have low standards, weak wills, and are willing to put themselves in danger. Let's be honest here, how many sluts (m or f ) behave promiscuously when stone cold sober? They engage in these behaviours when their faculties are impaired, even though they know that this is how they behave while impaired. I can only speak for myself, but of my friends who are 'sluts', in the cold light of day, they hate themselves and what they do.
/r/MensRights29/12/12 10:46 PM
9

Agreed. People do have the right to fuck whoever and however they wish (as long as it's legal/consenting), but I will always deem people (male or female) who throw themselves open to anyone to be lacking moral fibre. And guess what? That's my right too.
/r/MensRights29/12/12 10:37 PM
3

This seems to me to be less about feminism and more about your mother being an unpleasant person.
/r/MensRights29/12/12 11:15 AM
1

How is there not more outrage over this? If this was a male writer making an offensive blanket statement about females ('Don't bother with armed guards at schools, just hire women on their periods LOLZ' etc) then the guy's career would be in tatters. She deserves nothing less. I for one am going to make as many people as possible aware of this idiot. Her dangerous opinions have no place in a balanced society.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 01:03 PM
0

Can you think of any situation where a man biting the nipple of a woman he's not involved with is 'silly'?
/r/MensRights22/12/12 11:43 AM
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