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DISCUSSIONvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 11:29 PM
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FDS HUMORvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/21 03:31 PM
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FDS HUMORvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 05:14 PM
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LVM LOGICvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 03:25 PM
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REMINDER 👑vmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/10/20 05:50 PM
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REMINDER 👑vmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/08/20 10:07 AM
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#JustLVMThingsvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/03/21 12:09 PM
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REMINDER 👑vmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/11/20 09:59 PM
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FDS HUMORvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/08/20 01:14 PM
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MINDSET SHIFTvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/20 04:58 PM
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LIES MEN TELLvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/04/21 06:32 PM
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QUEEN SH*Tvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/09/20 02:11 PM
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NAH, SISvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/12/20 04:30 PM
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FDS HUMORvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/10/20 05:18 PM
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REMINDER 👑vmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/11/20 09:20 PM
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REMINDER 👑vmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/21 02:31 PM
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LEVEL UPvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/09/20 05:24 AM
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STRATEGYvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/08/20 12:25 AM
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How-To High Valuevmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/21 06:29 PM
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RED FLAG 🚨vmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/09/20 08:43 PM
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FDS HUMORvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/09/20 02:40 PM
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SHOWER THOUGHTvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 02:41 PM
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NAH, SISvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 02:45 PM
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NAH, SISvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 06:21 PM
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NAH, SISvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/20 02:37 PM
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ROAST-A-SCROTEvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/11/20 06:01 PM
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STAY WOKEvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/08/20 02:37 PM
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NAH, SISvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/10/20 03:20 PM
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QUEEN SH*Tvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 12:29 AM
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MALE DEPRAVITYvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/09/20 06:01 PM
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FDS HUMORvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/08/20 04:31 PM
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MALE DEPRAVITYvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/08/20 07:52 PM
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FDS HUMORvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/09/20 06:48 PM
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NAH, SISvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/04/21 12:47 PM
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GLOBAL RESISTANCEvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/08/20 11:47 AM
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MALE DEPRAVITYvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/08/20 02:35 AM
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MOOD FOR LIFEvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/08/20 02:12 PM
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LEVEL UPvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/01/21 03:47 PM
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DISCUSSIONvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 02:12 PM
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FDS HUMORvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/08/20 02:35 AM
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LVM LOGICvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/20 02:23 PM
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PICKME CULTUREvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/10/20 03:11 PM
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SHOWER THOUGHTvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/10/20 03:36 PM
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#JustLVMThingsvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 04:45 PM
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#JustLVMThingsvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/01/21 03:13 PM
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SCROTES MADvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 12:50 PM
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NAH, SISvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/08/20 02:42 PM
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LVM LOGICvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/08/20 04:27 PM
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LESSON LEARNEDvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/01/21 06:43 PM
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NAH, SISvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/20 06:54 PM
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REMINDER 👑vmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 08:30 PM
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PICKME CULTUREvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/08/20 10:11 PM
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NAH, SISvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/20 03:35 PM
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REMINDER 👑vmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/01/21 10:13 PM
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NAH, SISvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/08/20 04:18 PM
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NAH, SISvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 01:19 PM
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LEVEL UP BRO! vmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/09/20 11:56 AM
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SHOWER THOUGHTvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/09/20 12:39 AM
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NAH, SISvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/11/20 02:11 PM
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STRATEGYvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/08/20 02:54 AM
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MALE DEPRAVITYvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/08/20 10:51 PM
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NAH, SISvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/12/20 07:13 AM
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LEVEL UPvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/08/20 05:07 PM
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NAH, SISvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 01:13 AM
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GLOBAL RESISTANCEvmuzondi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/08/20 01:33 PM
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Exactly. FDS is a defense strategy. We gain information so we can use it to make sure we are well prepared for the dating world. That means no excuses if you are given more knowledge. I have sympathy for the women who just don’t know better and are young and naive, but some women want us to be kept in line like they’re recruiting women for the pyramid scheme that is the patriarchy.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/03/21 03:00 PM
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Male friendships are about constantly one-upping each other. I had tons of guy friends growing up and the cruel things they would say to each other and veil as “jokes” was insane. That’s why I have a hard time believing women are catty. Men are extremely catty and sensitive. They fight constantly, steal from each other, talk behind each other’s backs, bully each other, sabotage each other. If you ever want to be a part of drama, just join a group of male friends and get some popcorn. It’s like w…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/03/21 02:27 PM
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I’m absolutely not taking accountability from men. I’m just stating that we need to be the change by denying them access immediately. And yes. We need to be firm in our choices and understand that we are enough. LVM/NVM thrive from women’s fears of single hood.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/03/21 02:18 PM
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He didn’t say it but he has a long history of dating nonblack women. It’s definitely a PR stunt.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/03/21 02:11 PM
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Purplepill debate is the perfect example of what fds would be like if it was an open sub. It’s just a bunch of men participating in a circle jerk and harassing women who challenge their viewpoints and give different perspectives. Their goal isn’t to understand us better it’s to control us. There’s no point of engaging with someone who doesn’t want to hear you speak from the get go.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/03/21 01:36 AM
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Everything these men are saying is discussed in the handbook. They know most women are looking for relationships so they have to pretend they’re on the same page. They also know women are more likely to engage in sex if there’s a possibility of a relationship because women see sex as insurance towards a relationship. That’s why they advocate for having sex as soon as possible to other women. They know exactly what they’re doing and all the women who fell for it need to wake up. These men are con…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/03/21 01:10 AM
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That’s my first thought. We’ve been telling women on here that men just don’t view sex the same as us. They do everything they can get what they want. For some, unfortunately, it only clicks when they here it from men. We can shout as much as we want, but at the end of the day, it’s more powerful for men to reveal it themselves because there’s no way to excuse your choices after seeing how they view us.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/03/21 01:05 AM
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That’s the best thing about this sub and this conversation. Being on this sub has opened my eyes and given confidence me that I didn’t think I could ever have. I’m so glad we can all heal together and share tips on avoiding these types of men in the future. I also love that we can let go of the guilt because these stories help us see that we’re not an isolated incident and we’re not stupid for falling for their games.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/03/21 04:47 AM
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I developed an alcohol dependency too. I thought I was destined to be an alcoholic forever because of my ex. I would drink almost everyday and if I didn’t, the anxiety would consume me. Now that I’m staying with my parents and I don’t even think of alcohol. It’s actually insane how much I had changed because of that relationship.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/03/21 01:54 AM
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My anxiety manifested through my ex’s porn addiction so any time he would go to the bathroom, anxiety. Leaving him alone in the house, anxiety. Showering, anxiety. It was painful, so painful that I was considering suicide. My self esteem was nonexistent. It took me two years to get over it and a lot of self work. FDS mainly helped me completely move past it because I finally felt validated and not insane. That lingering feeling finally left and I realized I didn’t have to deal with that ever aga…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/03/21 01:50 AM
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My porn addicted ex made me feel like I was insanely jealous and had attachment issues. Never again. 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 11:34 PM
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I almost made appointments to a psychiatrist and everything. Thought I was crazy, but no, turns out I was just with a nvm.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 11:33 PM
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Yeah I would hope I wasn’t one of those that’s made misogynistic comments but many women are misogynistic because we’re raised to be that way. Just like stories of women acting like extreme pickmes, I don’t think every rp story is made up because I’ve seen those types of scenarios in real life especially as a young woman. Either way, we need to constantly check ourselves because none of us are completely divorced from misogyny just like it takes a very long time to get rid of pickme tendencies.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 08:34 PM
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This is not funny at all. I can’t believe women think this is cute. That baby was born only a few months ago from what I can tell and he doesn’t know the difference between his child and a rag doll? Divorce papers would be on the counter by the end of the week. I’d rather be a single mom.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 04:59 AM
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The even sadder thing is top tier women can’t even find HVM. Beyoncé is married to an LVM and so are many celebrity women. The problem has never been about looks or status. It’s always been men. They are the problem, and now that we’re calling it out, they’re trying to create a smear campaign so they don’t lose the women who haven’t realized this yet.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 03:35 AM
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I honestly think these men live such sad and uninspiring lives. They revolve their entire lives around female validation, which is fleeting, and wonder why they lack emotional connection and insight in their lives. They’re literally male pickmes hoping to be picked by a woman but instead of loving and cherishing that woman, they would rather destroy her and go attempt to conquer other women. It really shows that they don’t see us as humans with emotions. I hope more and more women wake up to the…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/03/21 05:23 PM
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Yeah my dad is HV and he constantly tells me that he thinks reddit is a place for weirdos. He’s very short himself but he never had issues dating before my mom and women love being around him because he’s overall a kind and caring person. Rp men are just unhinged and can’t come back from the amounts of misogyny they have. I’m sure all that hatred causes major stress issues in the future which I’m glad for.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/03/21 05:12 PM
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Plus they constantly see women talking about their breakup stories here so they know we’re dwindling their chances of ever having female contact.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/03/21 05:09 PM
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If I ever got that last question I’d straight up say good looking. I love messing with men like that because they’re the easiest to irk. They think they’re so smart and clever but once you catch the game, playing with them becomes fun. But you’ll have to block and delete quick cause they’re usually the most unhinged.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 07:44 PM
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That would require compensation. They think women are born cleaners and caretakers so no way they would fairly compensate a woman for a job they’re meant to do for free.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 07:09 PM
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Yes. It is scary. Which is why I always advocate that women have a back up plan even if that man seems perfect in every way. Also, I think it’s important to pay close attention during times of relatively mild stress like personal family issues, finances, or work and see how they handle this. It’s a sneak peak into how they’ll handle it if you ever become a stressor in their lives as well.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 02:29 PM
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The best way to know a man is HV is by how he acts when you’re vulnerable. Luckily your friend has a support system and wasn’t too vulnerable in this situation, but it’s why I think it’s so important to wait to call a man HV until you’ve seen how he acts in dire situations.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 02:15 PM
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This is the most effective way to get into a dead bedroom. Bravo to the men who are well on their way to divorce in a decade or two.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 12:48 PM
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I don’t like this or some of the comments here because it dilutes the whole point of feminism. Feminism is not a choice, its an understanding of systemic sexism and how it effects women. Yeah you can choose to be a housewife or married and mother children for a man but none of those choices are feminist. A feminist choice would be choosing to opt out of the institution of marriage because it’s an inherently misogynistic and patriarchal tradition/contract. Same goes for opting out of straight rel…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/03/21 06:27 PM
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Wtf was that response. Victim blaming 101 right there. That’s literally what people ask rape victims whenever they come out with their stories. This man is probably bigger and stronger than her, but they’re asking why she didn’t say no? And let’s not act like men don’t know when we’re uncomfortable in a situation. Ugh I hope that girl finds an actual safe space with real advice because these comments ain’t it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/01/21 02:23 PM
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Absolutely. They love evading responsibility. I thought it would stop in high school too but it seems to have just gotten worse.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/01/21 09:43 PM
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I hate the we’re just talking thing. Anytime a man I’m seeing mentions it I tell him I don’t believe in talking, it’s either I’m single or I’m not. I can tell they hate that mentality by the way they seethe when I say it but it is what it is. I’m not acting like somebody’s girlfriend if I don’t get the benefits.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/01/21 07:57 PM
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I saw your post I’m so glad you clocked that. Men know what they’re doing when they suggest moving in together and it’s rarely for the best intentions.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/21 05:13 PM
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Yep. I’m glad you have a support system because unfortunately a lot of women don’t and so they use the relationship as a form of survival. I see these stories everyday on the relationships reddit. Boyfriends/husbands exhibiting clearly psychopathic traits, but the woman is staying because of the lease, house, kids whatever and hoping he’ll change. It’s terrible.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/21 05:05 PM
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It’s so important for women to realize this because equality isn’t enough. Women have been ostracized and held back for centuries. We’ve been duped by the guise of opportunities when that won’t change the overall culture and structure of society. I think gaining the rights to many avenues for women has helped hide a lot of the inequities still present in society today. It’s great that modern women can do all these things, but we are still living under the same culture of misogynistic, patriarcha…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/21 05:02 PM
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Absolutely. I wish we lived in a world where being lower class/poor didn’t mean you have to be extremely ruthless but the real world is so harsh. You just can’t trust anyone, especially men to have your best interests. Seeing the post earlier today talking about the patterns in dv relationships was so sad. I wasn’t surprised cohabitation was one of the top patterns.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/21 04:51 PM
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You can really see it now because everyone who is losing jobs/money is suddenly in relationships and “so in love” they just need to move in together. It’s crazy.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/21 04:36 PM
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It’s so terrible. Leases and high cost of living are the main proponent for codependent/abusive relationships. That’s why I don’t think moving in with a man is romantic because most of the time it’s for survival and not about fostering a closer bond.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/21 04:16 PM
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Next time don’t date a man who doesn’t have the intention of making you his girlfriend. I’ve been there too and it sucks, but with men its actions and not words. If he isn’t acting like he’s head over heels, and pulling all the stops, it doesn’t matter what he says, you’re a place holder. For now, just let out all the shitty emotions. It hurts, I know, but eventually you won’t care anymore and be glad you never had the chance of dating or marrying him because he is an LVM. He’s already okay with…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/21 03:19 PM
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They absolutely benefit, which is why they love spouting not all men. They need these types of men so they can keep doing their low effort bs and get rewarded for it by pickmes. That’s why I see most men as weak. They never think to stand up for women in these or worse situations.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/21 03:05 PM
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Absolutely. And most sugar babies get paid a couple hundred a week to basically be a glorified escort when real escorts and sw get paid way more than that for a few hours. It just seems like a gate way to sex work because I know eventually they’ll get tired of being underpaid.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/21 02:31 PM
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Yeah. They always try and impress with the “shopping trips” because it’s easy to impress young women who’ve never been full adults. I also used to have a friend that worked at a furniture store that would get these clients and the sd would buy a bunch of furniture and cancel it the next day. I always felt bad hearing that because it must suck being excited and thinking you hit the jackpot and then never getting what you “worked” for. They also prey on lower class women. I had a friend who tried …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/21 02:29 PM
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Oof I saw this on tiktok too. Women my age have definitely been groomed to believe sugaring is not just glorified underpaid prostitution. I’ve seen so many women lie saying they get paid to do nothing when 99.9% of sugar daddies will only pay you after the relationship gets sexual. Even sex workers think sugaring is a scam because it requires more energy and emotional labor than a sw who gets paid for sessions or cam work. Sugaring has only gotten so popular because young women have been told th…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/21 01:39 AM
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Exactly! I was thinking of the picture with the fence when writing this because it makes absolutely no sense for women to have to pay “fair” to be with men who can see over the fence already.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/21 11:40 PM
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Speaking as a black woman, it absolutely is. We’re not allowed to be mediocre so we work extremely hard, but because we’re also women, our labor isn’t taken seriously or compensated fairly. On top of that, we’re seen as caricatures in a racist society so we’re either angry black women or mammies. We’re no where near what we call a fair and just society, the oppressive classes have just learned how to hide these systems better. This pandemic has been a great reminder of how much work we still hav…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/21 11:38 PM
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Women are doing better in college and gaining more positions but there is still a pay gap when it comes to companies and their employees. Black women are statistically the most educated class right now, but they get paid the least out of everyone in the positions they hold . The problem with men is laziness, not lack of opportunities.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/21 11:18 PM
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Exactly. The fact that a man said this, a doctor at that, with extensive credentials and evidence probably pisses them off to oblivion because they can’t logically counter his statements since he worked with proven abusers and used accredited methods to get this type of data.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/01/21 06:21 PM
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Exactly this! It’s also why the friend zone thing is so annoying. They approach all women they’re interested in in this way and expect her to be wowed and in love and get mad when it doesn’t work. We can see right through them. It’s not about “getting to know you” it’s just about getting in our pants.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/01/21 05:10 PM
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Exactly. Dumb fox is always the way to go because men don’t know how to shut up. There’s no one better at “cock blocking” than men. Asking weird questions like this on a date just comes off as insecure or inauthentic. They’ll catch on quickly and know how to answer if they’re not stupid.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/01/21 05:06 PM
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Of course the one person who made sense on that sub was from FDS. I should’ve know 🤦🏾‍♀️😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/01/21 03:53 PM
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It really is because the same men who are redpilled and believe we live in a matriarchy are always the racist, anti-semantic assholes who think they’re being oppressed because other people are gaining rights. These mentalities are all interconnected because they revolve around entitlement. Whenever I hear men shill redpill talking points I always assume they’re every other ism in the book because they believe their entitled to being on top of the world for owning penises.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/01/21 03:53 PM
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It’s a shit show over there for sure. 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/01/21 03:33 PM
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Oh yeah for sure. It just showed up in my suggestions tab and it actually looked reasonable until I realized it was from PPD. Of course the comments were a dumpster fire and they were using all the same talking points Lundy talks about in his book. Several men talking about the abused abuser and the men who get cheated on and so on and so forth. It was just fascinating to see the cognitive dissonance. I wish Lundy’s book was in school curriculums because many women would learn how to sus out abu…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/01/21 03:32 PM
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It really shows how miserable most people are. They really don’t live for themselves, just for others and their acceptance. It’s why they’re always hating on the rich and single aunties. They wish they could have the courage to embrace being alone, but instead want to doom everyone else into being a slave to societal expectations.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/01/21 03:28 PM
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Exactly. There is no critical thinking. Ask a liberal feminist why they choose to wear makeup, shave, or get plastic surgery and they’ll always say it’s their “choice.” They don’t even account for the male gaze and how a lot of their choices amount to it. They want to believe they can “choose” their way out of the patriarchy because they don’t want to admit that it’s an insidious system that effects everyone, not just traditional/nonwestern women.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/01/21 03:17 PM
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Okay good to know. I honestly wasn’t really considering the UK because I heard the rent is super high and I want to be able to live alone comfortably eventually. I’m stuck choosing between Australian and New Zealand at the moment and possibly a Nordic country.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/01/21 06:39 PM
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That’s what I heard but I was so afraid of the language barrier. Norway would be is my dream country so I’ll look into it as well! I’m not opposed to learning new languages but I don’t want to put my self in a position where I can be isolated and alone in a foreign country.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/01/21 05:13 PM
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How so? Edit: I was also leaning towards New Zealand more than Australia too because I heard it’s a very conservative country. Any insights would be helpful though cause I can only research so much lol!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/01/21 05:00 PM
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This is true lol! I actually lived in Gold Coast for two years when I was in elementary school and it was amazing. I loved how natural it was and the work culture there is more relaxed according to my parents. I’m sure there’s problems there too, but probably not as much a America.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/01/21 04:09 PM
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Yep the body positive movement is centered around nonskinny bodies being considered fuckable by men and that shouldn’t be the goal whatsoever. We should be working to make sure no ones quality of life is lesser because of the body they live in. We really need to move past the male gaze and create movements centered around better quality of life for everyone.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/01/21 10:28 PM
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Thank you. I got tired of all the wall posts because it does nothing but stick to the status quo. By engaging in that discourse and arguing it, you’re legitimizing it when we should be working to dismantle this thought process. Women are more than looks and eye candy. Yeah there are women who look great at an old age but that excludes a majority of women who don’t fit into the heteropatriachal box that is beauty standards. No one should be trying to achieve “not hitting the wall” but instead get…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/01/21 10:23 PM
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This is the type of woman to get stuck in the sunk cost fallacy. I guarantee you her husband barely tolerates her because he clearly has a deep seated hatred for women. The minute he cheats on her, she’s gonna tell him they can work through it and blame herself because she wasted years of her life trying to fix him. He probably resents her because he knows he’ll never be able to get rid of her and her loyalty.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/01/21 05:58 AM
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Oh Jesus. Here comes the insecurity police. I highly doubt she’s the one doing the sexting in this relationship. Women in these types of situations always end up being the third wheel. She’ll gladly accept his behavior but the second she reciprocates she’ll have to deal with his insecurities and reassure him.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/01/21 03:45 AM
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Yep. I saw another thread on reddit today denying PIED because apparently all men get tired of their partners eventually. 🙄 Great evidence for women to stay single if that’s the universal truth. It will have to get to the point of life ruining addiction before men collectively do anything about PIED and it won’t be about solidarity to women or sex trafficking victims.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/01/21 03:40 AM
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This is sooo true. Subscribing to nofap made me realize just how lucky I am to be a woman. No wonder more and more women are dominating men in every field. We literally have the brain capacity to be leaders while men destroy their receptors to a screen. I would say it’s sad, but their hatred for women is what fueling this addiction so I feel no pity.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/01/21 03:38 AM
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It’s r*tard. The derogatory word used against people with autism or other mental disabilities.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/21 05:57 AM
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It’s definitely normalized cheating. I know this because men get freaked out and insecure when they hear about women watching it too and enjoying imagery of attractive men. It’s funny because all the women I knew who were proporn didn’t even watch it themselves. They were adamant about it being okay because they were performing for their partners. I would ask why they never watched it, and they would say they just don’t want to and it doesn’t interesting. We’ve definitely been brainwashed and ga…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/21 02:33 AM
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My gamer ex would use the r word and the f word and I hated it. I hadn’t dated anyone who used those words until him so I was shocked. He excused it in the same way your ex did and he was very immature. I’ll never date a gamer again.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/21 12:43 AM
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I actually use it as a vetting technique to see how they react. If they immediately start talking about me being rich or using my family for status or class symbol, I next them. The reaction I get the most is usually intimidation. Maybe it’s because I come off as daddy’s little princess or something lol but most of the time they joke about me being high maintenance and needing to be treated like a queen which is true, but if they say it in a snarky way, it means he resents my dad’s position in m…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/01/21 11:56 PM
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Unfortunately no story, just a really bad boyfriend. He got it while we were taking a trip to Walmart together and said “might as well get you a birthday present.” His excuse for not getting me one on my birthday was that he didn’t have a car at the time and he wanted it to be a surprise. 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/01/21 10:49 PM
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Drain cleaner and mattress pad for my birthday.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/01/21 08:11 PM
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But in your case, you guys don’t even fit that trope because she’s talking about having sex around the first time you meet. You and your husband knew each other for months and there was still some form of pursuing. I wouldn’t really put these two circumstances in the same category.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/01/21 02:13 PM
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Those types of women also drop them immediately if the sex is bad and don’t use sex as a bargaining chip for a relationship so it takes the fun out this toxic dynamic for them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/01/21 07:40 AM
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I saw this tiktok earlier and thought of FDS! All the pickmes in the comments were obviously going against the no sex rule saying they slept with their husbands the first night, not realizing they’re the exception.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/01/21 07:33 AM
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He sounds like his realizing he has no options and he’s willing to settle. Now that the girlfriend is realizing the same he’s panicking. I don’t even think he loves her that much because the only thing he describes about her is what she does for him. No specific or unique personality traits or quirks. He “loves” her because she loves him, not because of the person she is.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/01/21 03:06 AM
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Honestly this is why I hate the communicating trope. If a person “communicates” nicely that they want to murder you, it doesn’t make them any less of a potential murderer. The bar is so low for men that if they disrespect us, communicating cancels out the disrespect because at least he’s expressing his emotions instead of being a full blown dickhead. We need to do better ladies. Communicating is the bare minimum. We need a partner who is communicative and caring, and even then that’s still the b…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/01/21 02:56 AM
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This sounds like the product of romance movie idealization. Men watch romance movies and forget that 1) it’s fiction so they shouldn’t take it seriously and 2) no woman would want those gestures from a stranger. That man probably thought he was a main character and high-fiving himself and thinking he had her in the bag. It really shows how they don’t see us as humans who want to be treated as such.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/01/21 01:49 AM
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Pickmes and LVM have a symbiotic relationship, one cannot exist without the other because pickmes supply LVM with sex, attention, and validation while LVM string them along with the promise of love and affection for being patriachial princesses. They hate the idea that you can just opt out of this relationship. Especially pickmes because they have the sunk cost fallacy keeping them in this dynamic. We’re telling them that all their hard work is fruitless and they don’t want to believe it while L…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/01/21 01:24 AM
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It’s truly amazing how they’re brains can’t comprehend that being a good person gets you nice things. They want to believe that they can be shitty people and live happy, healthy lives, but if you’re not Uber wealthy or famous, it’s just not possible. They actually have to try and it kills them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/01/21 01:14 AM
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I agree with everything you said. Women definitely need to realize that they are capable of leaving even when they feel they have no options. It does suck and abuse is so complicated, that sometimes it’s hard to see a way out. It makes it even worse that leaving is the most dangerous period, and that’s why I want women to focus on financial stability first before attempting to date. Especially since men prey on more vulnerable women because they know they’re easier to manipulate into shitty rela…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/01/21 01:10 AM
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I hope to be one too. I’m always grateful I was raised by my parents because they raised me with a FDS like mentality. It took me a while to really embrace it, but I’m glad I’m here now. It’s also great you’re in medicine. I was originally really interested in it, but I began hating school while in undergrad, so now I’m trying to do as little schooling as possible lol. I’m getting an associates in computer science to get my foot in the door in the tech industry and I’m sure I’m probably going to…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/01/21 01:03 AM
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I’m glad you made it out. Now you can focus on leveling up. I would introspect on why you were willing to pass off red flags so that in the future when you’re ready to date, you will be better equipped to recognize LV red flags and block and delete immediately.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/01/21 12:51 AM
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Of course. That’s why I always advocate for an exit plan or a plan b. When I said hope for the best I meant always be aware he could be LV/NV and never be overly attached. I guess the wording was best but it’s more just don’t expect a man to be one thing because you project it on him. OP was smart not to tie herself to this man so it would be easier for her to detach. I was mainly warning other women on here to be careful using that umbrella term because they could put themselves in a position w…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/01/21 12:47 AM
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This is so true especially for the daughter of a doctor. Whenever I mention that my dad’s a doctor, my date immediately begins to change his tune. Especially when I tell them that he buys me and my sisters, very thoughtful gifts for special occasions, helps out around the house when he has time off work, and worships the ground my mom walks on. They either start acting better for a while, or ghost because they know I’m used to being treated well. I was also raised to have a good sense of self an…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/01/21 11:57 PM
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Yep, I feel for OP, and I’ve seen other newbies claims their SO is a HVM. Even if I found a man I thought was perfect and never showed red flags, I would still call him HV presenting or an assumed HVM because you just never know with people. They can change immediately. I’m glad she can make it out, but for the other ladies, we never truly know if a man is HV, we can just hope for best really.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/01/21 11:50 PM
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Yep that’s basically it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 11:55 PM
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Well that’s what everyone means by waiting for sex. It’s not some catch all where anyone that waits for sex is great, it’s just a precaution. How long you choose to wait for sex is your choice but it’s not a main determiner in whether a man is HVM or not, it’s just the easiest way to weed out the most low effort men. Edit: to add to your other point, the concept of chasing is what courting is. It’s the idea that a man sees what value a woman would bring in his life and what he is willing to inve…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 11:54 PM
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The problem with having sex early on is we attach ourselves and invest if we really like the man. This puts more blinders on our vision and causes us to project on him as well as vie for commitment and partnership. Doing this with the wrong man will make it harder to vet and unfortunately a lot of men are the wrong men. There’s nothing wrong with being patient and waiting to see if his intentions are true because a majority of men lie to get sex and it’s usually not that easy to tell when they’r…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 11:02 PM
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This is exactly how I feel about men, straight men specifically. I don’t know what it is, but I’ve noticed women tend to have so many different hobbies and such full lives while men are perfectly content doing the bare minimum in terms of adventure. I get bored easily so I barely care for relationships and prefer to be single. I think I’ve only dated one guy that I actually thought was interesting and had a personality and that’s saying a lot considering I’ve been on more than 50 dates and dated…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 07:04 PM
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It usually means they smoke weed, know where to get some, or some kind of dealer. I don’t really want to date a smoker so that’s a hard left for me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 06:51 PM
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I never said marriage would change that. I’m strictly talking about the pros and cons of living with men. The cons out way the pros so I would rather not do that. And like I said before, even if I get married, I would never live and be partnered with a man that wouldn’t take care of the living costs. That’s just my personal preference. If you’re fine with splitting the rent then do you. Also if you are in the 95th percentile than why is living alone such a financial burden? No wonder European wo…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 05:40 PM
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I think we’re going to have to agree to disagree on this because that’s not what FDS advocates for at all. There’s multiple posts in the handbook that talk extensively about spotting the red flags of an abusive love bomber and how to vet things like generosity, empathy, ambition, etc. Most of the women in this sub have dealt with abuse so they are pretty intimate with the details and red flags of abuse. And girlfriends get killed just as much as wives, this isn’t a marriage versus not situation …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 05:21 PM
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I wouldn’t mortgage a house I wouldn’t be able to afford on my own even if I was married. But if that man were to skip out, I would divorce him immediately, which would be just as detrimental to him because I plan on having a prenup that favors me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 04:15 PM
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I mean that’s your right, but advising women to live with men when they’re in a financially hard spot isn’t it. Live with men if you want, I don’t care, but it seems like you’re not addressing the larger issues, which is men being shit roommates 90% of the time. They tend to be the ones who press for cohabitation because they know it will always benefit them in the long run. It’s always women taking the risk. And once again, proving the point by saying married women you know cohabitated for a lo…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 04:13 PM
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Lmaooo this statistic is sad. I thought we were waking up to their games? Why would you even want a relationship with a long term hookup? Doesn’t sound like much of a prize.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 03:37 PM
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Yep I don’t care what the libfems say, men prefer it this way. Just through observation growing up, I’ve seen the way men become obsessed with women they chase and become action orientated. When they are being chased, they’re extremely nonchalant and uncaring. The men who tout against it just want easy sex with no effort. Always let the man chase.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 03:34 PM
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But what you’re saying is proving why it’s antiFDS. The women who are on this sub are either wanting to get married or be independent of men if they’re anti marriage. You were a forever girlfriend unless I’m missing the part where it says that man was your husband. I’m sure you were fine with that living situation, but FDS avoids that situation by bypassing living together because men are way less likely to commit when they cohabitate with women. I’m not sure if you were trying to or not, but yo…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 03:07 PM
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Well that would be grounds for divorce which is a whole other issue
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 02:57 PM
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Or kinky 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 07:07 AM
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Empty bio Pictures of cars All pics with a hat on and sunglasses “I’m actually (age) don’t know how to fix it” “Looking for a date for (x event)” 🍃🌿🌱 emojis “Here for a fun time not a long time” Anime memes or any memes All group photos The dreaded fish pic All car selfies Obviously filtered selfies Pictures with women who are clearly exes Pics that look like they were taken on a Nokia 3000 Shirtless mirror selfies in bathroom or gym
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 07:04 AM
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Thank you for explaining. I was too lazy to explain different methods of vetting lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 12:51 AM
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Yep. You don’t need to live with a man to know whether or not he is sloppy or won’t participate in chores. If they’re so scared they can move in together when their engaged and see how that goes for the first few months.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 12:43 AM
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Yes so I would have some claim to the house.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 12:42 AM
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This is exactly the point I was trying to make. Entitled men will be entitled either way. They’ll always look for an excuse to pressure you. Whether that’s through following through with the date or him paying for it. There’s no way out which is why women should always be prepared when things go left. Thinking that going 50/50 is going to save you is naive and sets you up to lower your guard with a man planning to hurt you from the get go.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 12:38 AM
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It is. And if you have that privilege use it, but it’s not smart to tie your living situation to a man when intimate partner violence is extremely common. No matter what, women need to find other ways to live outside of men. There are multiple commenters on this thread who were in abusive relationships and regretted moving in with a man because it escalated the situation and trapped them financially and physically. I would never advocate for women to choose to use men as a financial crutch when …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 12:25 AM
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No problem! Hope you have a great day too!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 10:26 PM
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Even men’s eating habits make being 50/50 automatically impossible. The same happened to me except he was just addicted to food. He would constantly be snacking and drink a 2 liter bottle of soda in the span of two hours. He would say I eat like a gerbil so we’re “saving money” but that’s cause I’m a petite woman. Now that I’m on my own my groceries never pass $150 a month and food lasts a lot longer in my house. You really do save a lot more money living on your own.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 10:25 PM
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Unfortunately, these are the consequences that come with cohabitating with men. We always need a back up because the worst that could happen is having our lives taken away. For men, the worst for a majority is having to live with their ex until they can afford their own place and having higher living expenses. If you have the privilege to own your own space, letting a man near it should be nowhere near you list of priorities.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 09:55 PM
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I guess we will. I think the mods are better at explaining it because there was actually a thread about why choosing to pay or not to pay won’t matter on a date with a man that ends up being unsafe. I wish I could find it, but there was a great comment talking about the movement to 50/50 from an older woman and she said going 50/50 never stopped men from disrespecting her or putting her in danger, it just made it easier for men to be cheap and get out of courting women properly so she expects me…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 09:48 PM
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I understand feeling unsafe and feeling the need to escape, but if the date is going well and he wants to pay and is respectful, there’s no need to be adamant about it. Let him pay. A man can’t be a HVM if he’s okay with women splitting on the first date. It’s also off putting because that’s seen as friend zoning to most people.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 09:27 PM
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Yep. Very few women get to experience that hallmark version of living together and that’s because men who are good partners barley exist. It’s definitely a form of propaganda that has convinced hoards of women that they need to live with a man. You don’t, and once you realize that you’re perfect on your own, it’ll be an idea that’s much easier to conceive not living with men during the courting phase or at all.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 08:32 PM
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Yeah research is essential so you don’t end up having a prenup that is essentially useless and won’t compensate you if your assumed HVM ends up being a psychopath/narc.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 08:17 PM
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Oh my gosh. That’s so terrible especially considering the reputation military men have. I definitely wouldn’t cohabitate during engagement unless I still had my place on hold incase they decide to become low effort or back out. Just like there’s forever girlfriends, forever fiancé’s are just as common because men know when the breaking point is on the horizon. They just get a cheap ring and do a half hearted proposal so they can continue living off all the benefits of cohabitating with a woman.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 08:11 PM
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I think prenups are extremely smart as long as they favor you because you’ll probably have the most to lose, especially if you choose to have his children. I’d personally put a clause about infidelity, or any other low value behavior you personally wouldn’t accept in marriage. I would also want some form of compensation based on the amount of children I have with the man. An example would something like $20,000 for some amount of time after divorce for each child or something but it would mostly…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 08:04 PM
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Hmm I’m not really understanding your question. You can do what you want because those are your standards. I’m okay with cohabitating if I think I’ve found someone I think can trust to live with because I want children, but I’ll always have a backup plan to be an efficient single mother and take care of them on my own if something goes wrong. I’m not sure how having two separate households would work while have kids.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 07:42 PM
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I’m personally okay with it because I plan on having an airtight prenup, but that’s also because I want to have children. I’m totally okay with your want to live alone and forgo marriage. That’s your right and it makes sense. The only thing that makes marriage more of a necessity to me is the want for children. I just don’t and will never understand women who want to cohabitate while knowing they never want to get married, but will buy a house, have children, and own assets with a man that won’t…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 07:35 PM
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Same. I personally don’t believe in splitting bills in the home. I’d rather pay for my own place. I’d only cohabitate if a had to put in as little investment to get some claim to the house because, as mentioned often, the wage gap exists and women have way less opportunities to promotions and be high earners once marriage and children enter the equation.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 07:30 PM
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It’s because they know they don’t have to. Until we collectively make living with us a luxury, they’ll keep using and abusing our labor in the guise of “love and romance” despite considerable evidence that men are not more romantic or considerate after cohabitation.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 07:28 PM
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Exactly. As I mentioned above, it’s a form of man worship to me. Just like women who refuse to accept high quality dates and not going 50/50, the idea of living alone triggers the inner pickme still residing in a lot of us. You see it in media all the time where the couples “next step” is moving in together, when that step isn’t actually necessary at all in the courting phase. It definitely is a fear of being seen as difficult by men because they want to pressure us into lowering their cost of l…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 07:24 PM
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Yep, I feel like you get to this stage once you no longer fear being alone. Once that clicked for me (after discovering FDS) the thought of purposefully sharing space with a man felt disgusting. I enjoy my company already, I don’t really feel the need to add a man to feel better. Obviously, if the mythical HVM pops up, I’ll consider it after engagement/marriage only based on his ability to give me a peaceful existence in my home.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 07:01 PM
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Yep. I did that on purpose because it seems like this is cultural romanticization that just shouldn’t exist. Even before living with my ex, I didn’t really understand the appeal. I’ve always dreamt of owning my own apartment in the city with gorgeous interior design, but that plan never included a man. I know women are different but it definitely feels like a type of man worship to think living with men is a necessity in romantic relationships when a majority of them have been groomed to have no…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 06:58 PM
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You can date for fun. Dating doesn’t mean marriage. It’s only an issue if you’re not a marriage type person but still expect to commit to a man in every way except marriage. I think there’s nothing wrong with companionship as long as there’s boundaries and you’re not allowing yourself to get taken advantage of by a man not committed to you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 02:36 AM
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I understand thinking the time frame is quick but you don’t have to get married as soon as you’re engaged. You can still be engaged for another year or two and see how he is when you agree to committing to him. The problem with men is they have no problem future faking and wasting time, so you have to be ruthless in that regard. It’s also why you should pay close attention the entire time you’re dating. I personally think not getting engaged by the second year mark is a major red flag, but that’…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 02:32 AM
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Oh my gosh I’m in love with your ring! And so glad you’re healed! ❤️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 02:01 AM
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This is true. I dated one guy that I ended up really liking and clicking with really well and even though he was more shy and reserved than most men I dated, he still mustered up the courage to tell me he liked me ask for exclusivity. I could tell by the way he confessed that he was afraid I would find someone else so he took the initiative, and this took him about a month of dating. When men want you, they won’t hesitate, and there won’t be any confusion.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 01:58 AM
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I read the comments and some people were in there proving her point defending living together by saying they been with their boyfriends for 5+ years happily living together. The cognitive dissonance is crazy. Edit: her framing is a little too conservative for me because if I were to marry a man he would have to do all those things for herself. The cohabitating thing is true but house chores should be a partnership.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 01:46 AM
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Like others said, it’s fine to not want marriage but then it doesn’t make sense to move in or do every other form of commitment without marriage. Men also don’t take women like that seriously because they are conditioned to see marriage as the most true form of commitment. Marriage free women are fine as long as they stay completely independent of men who they have around as companions.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 01:35 AM
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Yes. It’s supposed to be satire of the nfl wife on tiktok
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 01:21 AM
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I’m so glad you saw the light and I did too. I always got along with both genders so I would have two friend groups growing up. I think it’s why I had more of a backbone with guy friends in friend groups. I guess I had higher expectations since girls are better friends most of the time? Now I’m not really interested in being friends with men because most of them are vapid, annoying, boring, and misogynistic. I would rather eat a Jean jacket.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 01:13 AM
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This makes sense. I’ve always been into lean men, but the super muscley ones always put me off. I’ve met very few women who prefer that type. I do like to feel toned arms and a nice backside here and there but I don’t want a man that’s rock solid.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/01/21 07:00 PM
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I think it’s funny that it’s the same poster for every antiFDS post and he’s active in r/FDSorfemcel sub. He’s obsessed and mad he has to make up shit to make us look bad. Even went to the other antiFDS posts and some of them have been removed so clearly we didn’t like that content either, but anything posted by any user is all of our responsibility, like the mods don’t already have a hard time monitoring what’s posted here.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 11:03 PM
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I went through OPs post history and the fact that they think we’re femcels just shows how delusional they are about this sub. Like we literally talk about all the men who won’t leave us alone and our extensive dating histories all the time. There’s also women who are married and are relationships on this sub. Their misogyny knows no bounds since we have to be ugly and sexless for us to hate being abused by men and society constantly. No attractive woman would ever have standards or bad experienc…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 10:58 PM
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Omg men are so funny. It must be sad constantly wishing misery on others. They’re so mad we’re all happy alone while they sit around on the internet all day trying to black mail women into dating them and being their bangmaids.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 07:24 PM
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Lol. It’s because now they can’t call us broke or gold diggers since we can buy our own dreams.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 05:05 PM
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A yard sale??? Did I read that right? This is why it’s important to be nit picky. I don’t care what nonmaterialistic women say, when you tell men you’ll be happy with anything they’ll make sure to give you something that shows how much audacity they truly have. You can tell a man you’d be happy with an onion ring for God’s sake, and he’ll give you an onion.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 03:38 PM
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Wow I just went through that sub and all of them are so beautiful. That’s why I don’t think promoting surgery is a good idea. Human diversity is a beautiful thing. Living in a world where men’s desires come to life sounds so boring. They all seem to have the same cookie cutter preferences.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 01:32 AM
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The boob thing has happened to every guy I’ve dated because they were all butt guys. Luckily I have both but they grew to love them because they loved all of me just like how I learned love all of them. It really is psychopathic to want to change someone you claim to love. Men are something else. I also have a nose preference, which is mostly bigger aquiline noses lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 01:25 AM
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This is how men trap women by weaponizing their ego. We’re always taught we’re powerful enough to “change” a man or bring him up so they can coast on being the deciders of our worth. Our egos are dangerous because they blind side us and make us believe we’re the exception. That’s why they got away with telling women to go with the flow and decide whether or not they want to be in a relationship based on “vibes” because it triggers our auditioning response. Getting that relationship or commitment…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 01:00 AM
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Looool. Men do not change because they have absolutely no repercussions for not changing. There are pickmes everywhere and they have the privilege of being men. Yeah they might change for a few months for their dream woman to trap her, but trust they’ll be back to their old ways because they’re just lazy and entitled. Very very few men change and they only change because THEY want to, not because of some imaginary dream woman.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 12:55 AM
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It shows that they never grew out of seeking validation through other men and harbor traits of toxic masculinity. A man who is secure in his masculinity wouldn’t care about body count, or having bragging rights. He would accept his past as it is and realize that there’s more to life than being youth obsessed. We all grow older. There’s value in every stage of life.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 12:47 AM
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I honestly think that mentality is the ultimate brainwashing. It comes from thinking that your not enough and if a man shows a semblance of effort or care you have reciprocate somehow.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 02:25 AM
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Exactly. I don’t even see why it would a problem to be hard to get. And yes, it’s a habit not some game you stop playing once you get what you want. Women should always strive to be sought after rather than be possessed and kept.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 01:20 AM
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It’s hard for all of us, but once you get there, it’s like breathing air. Now is the best time because of New Years! Glad to see you’re on the right track!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 01:17 AM
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It’s what really honed in the FDS mentality for me because it made me realize that being a pickme doesn’t even get you men so it’s essentially useless to be a people pleaser. For the women who want to fake it till they make it, it won’t work or be off putting because you truly have to embody the bitch mentality to center yourself.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 01:03 AM
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Bet $100 he’s such a terrible/abusive person that she’s keeping the kid away for their own good
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 12:36 AM
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Thanks! Found the post. Never been on that sub but they’re actually crazy over there. Their arguments make no sense and their big mad this sub mostly has young women lol. Their obsession is insane.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/21 10:49 PM
18

Which sub was this?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/21 10:44 PM
76

It’s funny because every single mother I’ve ever known couldn’t beat men away. They also end up with HVM because those are the only types of men they’re willing to date. They’re just mad they can’t get near them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/21 09:54 PM
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The projection is unreal. They’re big mad but act like we’re the ones desperate for companionship.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/21 09:52 PM
34

Yep. Quality over quantity. Before the pandemic I was going on 1-2 new dates a week because I would be accepting any date that I considered good aka a dinner date. Quickly grew tired of that and became more picky. My life has been so much more peaceful since.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/21 09:37 PM
38

I love this! This is absolute queen energy and why it’s so important to center yourself. I think most women need to keep themselves busy to get to this point but I’m glad you know yourself and your values.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/21 09:34 PM
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I’ve personally never said I love you first in any of my relationships because I used to have guy friends who would brag about that kind of thing to each other and see it as a sign that they’ve got you and can do what ever they want.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/21 07:57 PM
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Yep I noticed that all the women who love that book are disciples or apprentices while the ones who don’t are newbies who see it as a book for pickmes. Its like all the women who were okay with moving in before engagement or marriage because they need to test the waters not realizing that that’s the perfect way to get demoted into the forever girlfriend/fiancé category. It’s hard to keep the point of this sub at bay when there are so many newbies coming in everyday. I just hope they get the poin…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/21 06:59 PM
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Exactly! They only call it that because it’s harder to get their dicks wet😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/21 06:53 PM
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Yes. That book is what inspired this post because women really need to let go of the idea that being hard to get is this evil thing. Men want women to believe this because they’re lazy and low effort. There’s no need to cater to men by being accessible and hoping some HVM will pop up thinking you’re “real” because of it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/21 06:45 PM
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Thank you! I’ve been seeing people say this a lot and it bothers me because somehow the people who don’t “play games” are always getting played. You have to have self preservation. Wearing your heart on your sleeve is just plain naivety and stupidity. More women need to become hard to get.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/21 06:37 PM
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I don’t see how she saw it that way at all because I thought the book was about reprogramming nice girl behavior. It’s also not bad to be hard to get because when you’re not, people take advantage of you. This idea that you can act as desperate and needy as you want, but the right man won’t be scared off is a terrible mentality. Women need to learn to be self centered and care less about men, not finding a man that’s willing to put up with desperate behavior.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/21 05:15 PM
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I’m the exact way as you so I rarely get impressed by liberal men. My politics are policy centered and don’t cater to the “lesser of two evils” Americans are obsessed with. When I start talking to men about my politics they start sweating because they realize I don’t just follow vote based on identity politics and actually engage in politics critically. I analyze everything and if I endorse a candidate that candidate is basically God which hasn’t happened yet.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/21 02:18 AM
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I actually really liked the book because it expands on the importance of being yourself and not caring what men think. It does come off as a book centered around how to “tame” men but it was written in a time where being a pickme was very normalized. It also helped me realize that men don’t think like women too.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/12/20 07:36 PM
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It’s okay. I was just letting you know because that’s how we speak and people might see that as you mocking them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/12/20 07:09 PM
26

It’s African American Vernacular English for talking about. I don’t think you mean to be racist, but it is racist to question the validity of the way black people speak and communicate.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/12/20 07:06 PM
52

That exactly how I feel. I feel like anything started now is gonna feel extra intense because of how crazy this year has been. Once everything goes back to normal, that intensity will leave too, and people will be forced to see each other in natural lighting.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/12/20 05:41 PM
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Same here. I didn’t trust men before but I definitely don’t trust them now. It’s so much easier for them to get away with low effort when most women want to social distance or stay virtual. I’ve just been focusing on myself and making sure I come out of this pandemic better than I was before.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/12/20 04:48 PM
45

Yeah it’s crazy how we’re brainwashed to believe pornified sex is good sex. Once you experience sex that’s not influenced by it, you never want to go back.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/12/20 06:17 AM
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Great article. I’ve dated both guys and the guy who’s seen porn was leagues better than the guys who’ve watched porn. First time I felt I actually made love instead of fucked. Edit: also wanted to add that I won’t be dating a man that participates in porn usage for moral reasons even casually. The guy who barely watched porn was no where near perfect which is why I’m not with him now.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/12/20 05:26 AM
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Yep They’ll just think you’re crazy and delusional. Just use that energy on yourself and try and keep a healthy peaceful existence.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/12/20 01:38 AM
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Lmaooo for real? The jokes truly write themselves.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/20 11:47 PM
16

This is actually hilarious to the point where I think this guy’s trolling. He has to be giving bad advice so he looks better than everybody right??
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/20 11:29 PM
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She’ll be crying in ten years when her husband gets her nothing for Christmas and won’t make her feel special on anniversaries or holidays. I’ve seen many older women back track on this mentality because they would feel this way thinking having low expectations means it’s harder to get disappointed not realizing men love to play limbo when it comes to lowering the bar.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/20 11:23 PM
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Exactly. I saw that too and funny how nobody mentions that in the comments. I hate how many pickmes are on Twitter.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/20 11:21 PM
14

Yeah I’ve heard women with that experience and they said most submissive men pretend to be submissive but they end up just taking orders from below under the guise of being a subordinate.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/20 07:56 PM
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Long as in multiple rounds is different from a man having no feeling in his penis and needing to jack hammer for 45 minutes to climax. I’m all for long sex sessions with 2 or 3 rounds but those men never brag about it. They just surprise you. The ones who bragged to me always turned out to be the latter and thought my “not being able to walk” was because they did such a great job when the sex was a friction-full disaster. Edit: also wanted to add, they should be able to climax in general. I don’…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/20 05:46 PM
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I sweat it’s like a bat signal. I remember telling my second boyfriend that my first boyfriend was codependent and super insecure and gave me anxiety. He ended up moving in with me and living off me with no job and was a porn addict which caused me to spiral to the worst point in my life. Now when a guy asks me about my exes I say they were all rich, handsome, and super generous. I’d rather them feel competitive than like they can take me back to my low points for the sake of it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/20 05:35 PM
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Yep they’re all saying “no man would want to fuck a woman on this forum” or “you’re the common denominator.” Like I don’t have to beat men off with a stick every time I step outside. All as unoriginal as I would expect from men. Can’t even think of new insults. Even had one guy say it’s natural for men to get bored. Oh well at least my vibrator insures I have a orgasm every time. They make it real easy to imagine life without them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/20 05:15 PM
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I think there’s a very tight connection between gaming addiction and porn addiction. If you talk to these men, they’ll have every excuse in the book why these habits aren’t addictions because they want to feel like there’s nothing wrong with ruining your life over something on a screen. There’s actually a statistic that says more than 50% of divorces are initiated from problems with porn use. Who wants to bet that these users also suck at being financially responsible and stagnant in their caree…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/20 05:08 PM
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I don’t feel bad for the men, but a lot of women are groomed to be subs to cater to men’s sexual fantasies in that community. I wish they could wake up and stop thinking reliving their trauma is the best way to get over it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/20 04:56 PM
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Oof the comments on this are ridiculous. BDSMers have serious issues. Part of me thinks they engage in it to seem better than everyone who is so “vanilla.” I couldn’t imagine being so pretentious and having no self awareness or critical thinking skills to realize all sex acts are not created in a vacuum. BDSM is literally just a concentrated form of patriarchal values.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/20 04:41 PM
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And men will gladly use these women while pining after the high maintenance women they can’t afford. 😊
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/20 12:19 PM
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You should see all the hidden comments from men blaming this on me. They know it’s a problem but as usual, denial is their go to.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/20 11:26 AM
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It really is. And it’s not helping our sexuality like all the sex positive bots keep pushing. The sex I’ve had with porn users was trash and you could tell they were just trying to reenact their favorite videos and didn’t see me as a person. I’m glad no fap exists but they need to start seeing women as humans deserving of sexual pleasure first.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/20 03:08 AM
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It was 18 for one of my exes
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/20 03:03 AM
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When a guy tells me he can last for a long time I see that as a major red flag. It means he probably uses the death grip and I don’t want to deal with the jack hammering for sure.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/20 02:01 AM
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I had two exes like that. One of them even told me they get bored of women they date sexually in a few months. I was 19 so obviously I thought I was the exception. We were in a dead bedroom in 5 months time. He watched porn everyday and when he lost his job he would be watching it for hours on end. No coincidence the best sex I ever had was with the one ex that barely watched porn.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/20 01:56 AM
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It’s actually insane how many men have ED nowadays. I’m in my early twenties and I’ve had too many exes with ED. It’s depressing. Edit: wanted to say thank you to all the lurkers for the snarky comments. Hit dogs truly do holler. 😊 And as usual we’re keeping the tradition of blaming ED (delayed or premature) on women and not the men who generally suck in bed.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/20 01:29 AM
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Her handle is actual black mermaid or ABM on Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/20 01:18 AM
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This is why I think the legalizing movement is only fixing a symptom of the problem. We all know how depraved men are but instead of trying to get to the root of the problem we’re enabling their behavior by giving them the most vulnerable women in society. Why are we feeding the wolves isn’t of muzzling them?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/20 08:42 PM
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I only follow one dating coach and her mantra is to be the main character of your own life and stop worshipping men. A lot of women worship men and give them too much importance. Men aren’t that complex or remarkable. They all use the same shitty tactics and get away with it because women always try to rationalize their behavior or think they’re masterminds of manipulation. Once women realize men have just been coddled and spoon fed to the top and are unoriginal LVM, we can finally move on and g…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/20 08:39 PM
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Ugh. I think this is why women shouldn’t disclose their income too early because if they know you’re a high earner, they’ll start daydreaming about being a useless stay at home dad. The first few years of college I was on the premed track and doing well and every guy I would start talking to would get all excited and fantasize about being the future house husband. So glad I realized the game later on.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/20 04:47 PM
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All of this. With how she reacted to this text, it seems like she’s addicted to the highs of the uncertainty of this relationship. She thinks she’s in love but she’s really just excited to have something to fixate on during these stressful times. I wish women would stop worshipping men and realize they are complete on their own.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/20 05:08 AM
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That’s not what she’s saying. She’s saying there’s no point of dating broke cheap men. We can ask for both generosity and a financially stable man. LVM come in all flavors but a broke and cheap man will always be a LVM. Cheapness also isn’t exclusive to low wealth which is why FDS emphasizes generosity.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/20 11:24 PM
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I think it’s compulsive heterosexuality?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/12/20 11:44 PM
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Why is sex work always centered around straight men? I’ve noticed it’s only ever men who think sexual intimacy is a need but you rarely see women go to the extent of getting a prostitute to relieve their sexual desires. Maybe we’ve been socialized out of expressing our desire but a part of me feels like male sexuality is engineered around imposing needs on others and feeling some sort of power. Either way, socialized male sexuality just seems so gross and vapid to me. There’s no sense of intimac…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/12/20 05:58 AM
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Yep. I had a close male friend my freshman year of college who I only saw as platonic because he was stringing my best friend along at the time. We were much closer than he was with her but I’m not a bad friend so I never crossed the friendship boundary. It wasn’t until I got in a relationship I began to notice what everyone meant when they said he liked me mainly because he complained saying my bf was taking up all my time and I wouldn’t see him or hangout with him anymore and how he missed me.…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/12/20 02:42 PM
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That’s what I was thinking when I was watching this. She doesn’t even seem happy. All of the comments were telling her she was getting played but she was only acknowledging the very few that were defending her boundary-less relationship. Hopefully she wakes up because I don’t see this ending well.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/12/20 02:36 PM
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Yep. She doesn’t even look happy answering these questions and she said she’s been with this guy for 6 years and she’s 20. She’s too young to realize she doesn’t need to put up with any of this just to keep a man.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/12/20 07:22 AM
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Congratulations!🎉 You’re ring is gorgeous! Just remember to keep vetting and have a life outside of him. Other than that I’m so happy for you and hope you guys have a beautiful marriage.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/12/20 05:02 AM
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Yep. It’s the best way for them to groom slaves while chasing after the women they want to break down. It’s why “nice girls” exist. If this were true, there would be no women complaining about being taken for granted and left for high maintenance women.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/12/20 04:49 AM
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Yeah I used to like his advice until I started following a female dating coach that’s very FDS friendly a few years ago. I realized he just butters his words up to make it seem like he isn’t advising you to chase. He also advises women to explain themselves too much and try too hard to come off as the cool girl. His advice is terrible because it’s centered around “standing out” and “putting men in their place” with word play that is essentially useless against an LVM who could give two shits abo…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/20 08:32 PM
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The whole self esteem thing makes no sense and just shows how men get bored easily. The amount of men I’ve seen complain about their girlfriends with low self esteem is enough to tell me we’re never enough. Soon he’ll be chasing the confident women who won’t show him the time of day because his girlfriend has no backbone and lets him walk all over her or she’s “crazy” for acting insecure while having low self esteem. 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/20 02:35 PM
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I kind of love how anonymous reddit is. When women think men aren’t that bad or not all men, they should just go to a male reddit. We don’t even need to do any work. They tell on themselves all the time.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/20 02:32 PM
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Not really. That sip of water you get doesn’t mean you’re no longer in the desert.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/20 02:46 AM
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Yep that is exactly what trauma bonding is. Taking you to the depths of hell and then countering his behavior with love and affection to make you bond with him and overlook his abuse.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/20 02:43 AM
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Being attractive and financially stable is the bare minimum. That’s the beginning of the race. The rest of his qualities should show if he’s capable of reaching the finish line.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/20 12:12 AM
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All of my exes barely used social media but immediately changed their Facebook status when we were official. They would also post pictures of us together infrequently. I think not being acknowledged at all is a bad sign because even my exes who posted once or twice a year found time to change their statuses and post mile stones in our relationships.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/20 10:01 PM
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Absolutely this. It doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the best it’s just better than what you’re used to. Once you experience being truly content, you’ll see those past highs differently.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/20 06:33 PM
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I honestly think toxic people can give pleasure but most of the time the pleasure you receive is centered around them and their ego. Also it feels amazing to finally get attention and affection after being abused and tormented so the difference between abuse and mediocre sex can feel extreme and pretty intoxicating. Either way, I still don’t think the sex is as great as people say it is.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/20 06:08 PM
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I think it’s important for women to stop romanticizing abusive dynamics. I’ve seen a lot of women say they stay with men because the sex is “great” but remembering the toxic situations I was in made me realize I was dramatizing those relationships. The best sex I’ve ever had was with a man who cared for me and truly loved me. We rarely fought and had a real connection. We broke up for different reasons but after experiencing that I realized most of the sex I was having was terrible. You only get…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/20 05:11 PM
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Oh my gosh I love this. More women should be this frank with men when they neg them because we’re way too nice to them. They love giving out their unsolicited opinions but can’t take it back.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/20 04:27 PM
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They also can’t get a big enough control group since a majority of men are exposed to porn from a very young age.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/20 04:18 PM
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This is how I feel about no fap. Like it’s great that they’re trying to beat their addictions but a lot of the time they blame it on pretty women for destroying their minds or whatever. They’re the ones who see women as objects and were okay with that until their dicks stopped working. I feel no sympathy because they never saw us as human to begin with. Now they have to deal with the consequences.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/20 04:16 PM
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I think we agree on this. I’m talking about thoughtless gifts as well like a pair of socks or a card. I understand getting it wrong but most people use that excuse to give gifts that you can give a stranger on the street.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/20 03:56 PM
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Also the thought DOESN’T count. Impact>>>intent. If your present is going to hurt my feelings and make me feel like you don’t care about me, I’m not going to be gaslit by myself and everyone else to brush it aside and pretend like you actually know and care about me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/20 02:37 PM
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I honestly think this is a cry for help. Women are starting to adopt this mentality because if they don’t accept scraps or take lead of the relationship, nobody will be getting married or starting families. It’s hard to come to terms with how lazy and low effort most men are in relationships.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/20 02:30 PM
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I honestly think it’s because they surround themselves with people they hate/despise. Most men settle in relationships so they are constantly coasting and hoping to get the most out of doing the least. I think most of them are miserable and hoping to find “the one” but don’t feel good enough so they take it out on the victims they choose as forever girlfriends who constantly make them feel inadequate.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/12/20 07:15 PM
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Can we let go of the concept of promise rings? I don’t see the point when there’s supposed to be a ring anyway. It’s just a waste of money and makes no sense outside of high school.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/12/20 02:38 PM
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I think this is the biggest truth for women to accept. They refuse to believe that men are just raised differently and have different values and thought processes. They want to believe they’re just as romantic and caring but reality shows us they don’t appreciate things that come easy. Growing up, I noticed men were willing to bend over backwards for women who barely cared about them. They would ignore all the women who would fall over them though. Basically stop caring about men and you’ll no l…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/20 04:11 PM
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Tiktok is such a weird place. The comments are usually either full of pickmes or queens when it comes to good dating advice. It’s always interesting to see how they justify their relationships and need for validation.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/20 03:02 PM
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Lmaooo. I actually think I might have super powers because I managed to get all my exes into Kdramas and they wouldn’t dare play games in my presence if I’m not included or bored. Still wouldn’t date a gamer again though. They have a certain type of personality/laziness that just doesn’t sit well with me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/20 02:55 PM
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Lol the men who would have made them wives would have made them single mothers too. There’s no winning here.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/20 08:25 PM
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Absolutely this. I make sure to turn my read receipts on so that he sees I’ve ignored him and if he doesn’t double text with something to push the conversation further I block and delete.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/20 12:10 AM
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I think this is a joke. I’ve seen a few girls use the old filter on their boyfriends and pretend they’re way older than them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/12/20 04:11 AM
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For real. The way I’ve seen people rush intimacy and relationships with full blown strangers is concerning.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/20 05:39 PM
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I really want women to stop feeling guilty for dating more than one man. I understand for most women it’s not possible to have a rotation, but sticking to one man after a date is insanity. For all we know, you could be declaring your loyalty to a murderer. I feel like dating apps have really watered down the concept of strangers. Like it’s not normal to start attaching yourself to a man you’ve know for a few hours. Just because he paid $30 for one dinner doesn’t mean he’s owed monogamy. Also I h…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/20 05:23 PM
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I love this because I understand the importance of knowing men know to avoid being a forever girlfriend but I have noticed a lot of women care too much about being “the one.” I just graduated college and I’ve already had two boyfriends bring up marriage and rings with clear plans and I declined because I want to be free while I’m young. Plus they were LVM anyway. I realized I don’t care to be married to a man who I don’t think is that great. I think for the women used to getting forever girlfrie…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/20 04:05 PM
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A lot of men base their self worth and self esteem on how many women they can sleep with. I honestly think it’s why they hate women with standards so much. They can’t understand saying no to sex and caring about the people you sleep and have relationships with.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/20 02:48 AM
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I honestly think the need for women to express themselves is an ego thing that needs to be let go. I’ve never sent a paragraph or told someone off because I just don’t care. It’s that simple. I feel contempt for them so using any energy on them feels gross and stupid. When you feel the need to send paragraphs it’s because you care and you need to work on not caring before trying to “put him in his place.” The most effective way to put an LVM in his place is to show how little you care about him.…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/12/20 09:57 PM
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I think it depends on how old you are. I’m in my early twenties so marriage isn’t a main focus for me. I would be willing to wait 2 years but 3 is pushing it before an engagement. For the women closer to their late twenties/thirties I’m sure 1-2 years is more than enough to get engaged and married. Edit: also wanted to add that I’m probably not going to consider a serious relationship until I’m 25+ because I want to live my life before considering committing to a man.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/12/20 06:51 PM
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I actually laughed out loud at this. Thank you😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/12/20 06:34 PM
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Yep. You can just tell the reality of most of reddit users is not up to par when you go through the relationship and dating subs. The shit that goes viral there is “lower your standards” “nobody’s perfect so don’t expect much” “date someone nice instead of someone you find attractive.” It’s the land of settlers. I’d rather be with someone who thinks I’m their dream come true than someone who thinks I’m good enough for the moment.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/12/20 06:32 PM
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It’s probably because they felt like getting married was just another thing on the check list. Once married both parties probably feel like there’s nothing to look forward to or they question their relationship and realize they weren’t meant to be together.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/12/20 06:19 PM
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It’s more about instant attraction. It’s also about first impressions because it was talking about how employees and people in general judge you that quickly which is why first impressions matter.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/12/20 01:27 PM
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You can let it out in your journal or in the shower. Men don’t care for explanations because they’ll just think you’re hysterical. I get thinking they’ll be hurt by your words but they won’t. They’ll just think your annoying and clingy. It’s a waste of time and energy and you only get embarrassment from sending paragraphs unfortunately.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/12/20 03:21 AM
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I’d love to join!😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/12/20 04:44 PM
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Lol at the 80/20 rule. News flash: most men are ugly. Nobody wants to touch them with a ten foot pole because they have no sense of fashion or hygiene. I’m sorry but this just proves that men would rather make excuses than actually change something. Of course most men would find 50 percent of women attractive. We spend hundreds of dollars and hours a month to look “naturally” beautiful. Their woe is me attitude is making them fall behind. They need to step up their game.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/12/20 04:17 PM
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This is articulated so well and it’s why a had such a hard time with the sex positive movement. Once I started seeing women ridiculing women for being vanilla I knew it was another way to foster competition over men. That’s why I always brag to men about how I’m a pillow princess. I don’t want them to think I care about impressing them. That’s their job. All the women who go around talking about how they’re the best in bed and do all these gymnastics are advertising to people who statistically c…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/12/20 03:55 PM
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I personally believe if he isn’t coming off as a tad bit desperate for your time and attention he’s not that into you. Obviously, I’m not saying he has to be psycho level obsessed, but the LVM I dated long term that ended up falling in love in the past were quick to establish their place in my life. There was no confusion on where they stood emotionally or what they wanted to happen between us. This is a stark difference between the women they dated before or after me that they would string alon…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/12/20 03:34 PM
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Already mentioned above, right away, but I think I heard a fact that said most people can tell if they’re attracted to you and like you in six seconds. So basically, when a guy is acting confused, he’s not.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/12/20 03:16 PM
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Ugh. This is why I think most men are miserable. I couldn’t imagine choosing to be in a lukewarm relationship for fun when you could be using that time and energy for something more fruitful. It really shows that men are the ones who can’t be alone because at least pickmes feel some form of love when they’re in these shitty relationships. Men just stick around and choose to waste their own time for no reason.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/12/20 03:14 PM
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I think it’s absolutely projection. They can’t imagine being confident while being unattractive themselves so they chastise other people for not being like them. I rarely see confident good looking men talk shit about women because why would they? Who cares? They’ve got goals to achieve and relationships to build. LVM waste their lives away envying other people so they have more than enough time to chastise confident women.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/12/20 11:23 PM
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Exactly. This why I don’t take lurkers or pickmes who say FDS is full of misandrists seriously . They’ll get over it and I promise you no ones going to die from our words like those other male centered groups.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/12/20 02:47 PM
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Oh my god. I found this post on Twitter two years ago while I was on a trip with my friends and my best friend and I died laughing. It’s one of my favorite memories because we were roasting this so bad saying he wanted to feed this woman chicken with newspaper ink on it. Men are truly something else.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/12/20 05:47 AM
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I’ve actually been told I should consider modeling multiple times but unfortunately I’m way too short but that surely hasn’t stopped me from dating 3 LVM long term and experiencing shit men. I’ve always kinda been FDSish but now that it’s polished I no longer waste time thinking about men. Being conventionally attractive does nothing. Before the pandemic I would go out with friends and would literally have to fight men off me. The problem isn’t being unattractive, it’s all the ugly, overly confi…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/12/20 03:42 AM
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That and probably an unhealthy amount of low self esteem. I think you have to lack a lot of integrity to want to be some ugly old married man’s sloppy seconds and revel in seeing their wives have mental break downs through your actions. I’m sure they would cheat regardless but why be a part of it?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/12/20 02:42 AM
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Lmaoo quality time?? I love quality time but that means spending time together talking and doing an activity that brings you closer. Just being in each other’s presence is essentially just existing next to each other. Whatever makes them happy though I guess.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/12/20 12:56 AM
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Lmaooo I love this visual. Seriously though, the relationship sub has issues. The amount of times I’ve seen women being told to communicate is insane. I always assume women have communicated because it’s common sense. It’s relationships 101 for God’s sake.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 10:30 PM
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Ewww this reeks of grooming. I hope the both of those girls heal and move on and he faces consequences because that’s really sick.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 09:54 PM
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Lol I dated one who ex who would play video games a couple hours a week and as soon as I got to his place he would finish up his game and spend quality time with me. Girls, you can find men who value your time enough not to let you sit around doing nothing while they play video games. There’s no need to waste time on these types of guys.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 09:51 PM
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Yep. It’s all rooted in competition and their need to assert superiority over older women and women who can’t “turn heads.”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 09:42 PM
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Exactly. There’s no excuses if they know they’re married and aren’t being coerced or forced into the situation. It seems more like a petty contest to me when younger women shouldn’t even be trying to use their relationship with older men as a gotcha towards older women. It’s just recreating old patriarchal structures. Marriage is for sure a sham but I don’t see the point of destroying other women’s lives in the process. It just reeks of the libfem mentality when I see women excuse this behavior …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 06:34 PM
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Yeah. I can understand when it’s grooming or they’re dealing with a traumatizing past. The women I’ve met have mostly come from privileged backgrounds and see sleeping with married men as some kind of sport. Those are the ones I’m mainly talking about because they tend to be the least uncaring and see their behavior as a badge of honor rather than another way enable men’s shitty behavior and destroy women’s self esteem in the process. I’m sorry about your friend and I hope she heals. Hopefully, …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 06:29 PM
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That’s what I’m thinking because he’s worked with her for over a year. He’s extremely fucked up through out this whole situation.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 06:13 PM
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Exactly. Staying just makes him think she has no dignity. I’m sure he wants her to cheat back or separate from him so he won’t feel the burden of being “the bad guy” too.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 05:40 PM
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It’s the sunk cost fallacy. She’s spent the better part of a decade with this man. I’m sure she’s questioning her reality and is wondering how she’s going to live without him and adjust to being a divorced woman. I hope she gets the courage to leave because infidelity can be extremely traumatizing and destroy your self esteem.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 05:32 PM
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Exactly. No communicating. I’ve always said if I ever marry and find out my husband’s done something I won’t talk about it. I’ll get the papers ready, get them signed, and then deal with the grief. It’s surprising how many women stay after infidelity, but I understand how they can experience so much cognitive dissonance and question their reality to the point where they think they deserve that kind of treatment.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 05:27 PM
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Same here. I actually really think it’s infantilizing when people think all women who engage in this behavior don’t know what they’re doing. They’re young and don’t fully understand consequences, but like you said, with workplace intimidation and grooming aside, there are 20 year olds who laugh with their girlfriends about the older married woman going insane after finding out about their husbands affair. I’ve seen it and it’s insane to me how vindictive and how uncaring they can be.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 05:22 PM
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Girl I was answering the commenters question about the women who actually want to have sex with older married men. I never once said it wasn’t the man’s fault. The married woman is always the victim and more often than not the younger woman he most likely groomed or manipulated. But like I said, there’s also women who get joy out of destroying marriages. I don’t know why you’re taking it so personally but you be you I guess.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 05:03 PM
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I have talked to these types of women and befriended them before. They exist. I already think the men in this situation are trash, but I don’t understand the insistence to absolve these types of women of responsibility. And like I said before, this has nothing to do with the OPs situation I’m sure that woman was groomed because of the timing and circumstances but with the whole sex positive movement and casual sex movement, it’s become normal for women my age to brag about how little they care a…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 04:58 PM
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I’m in my early twenties. I’ve met women who genuinely seek married older men to brag about it in college. I understand wanting to believe all these women are victims and I’m not saying the woman in OP’s this situation wasn’t groomed, but it’s actually very popular for girls in college to engage in this behavior because they think it gives them “cool points.” Doesn’t take the blame off the shitty husbands but these women exist and they get ego boosts from one upping older married women like they…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 04:50 PM
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Yeah, marriage counseling is a pure sham. There’s not any amount of communicating that could fix this. It also assumes she wasn’t communicating before hand, and knowing women, she probably communicated too much. Counseling is just gonna cause her to second guess herself and give this man more time to manipulate and love bomb her back into believing they can move past this.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 04:46 PM
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I don’t know. This man did the worst of the worst and people are saying she doesn’t need to divorce him. Divorce is there for a reason. We should be grateful it’s an option because there are women who have no where to go when stuff like this happens. I truly don’t understand staying after infidelity. It would only make sense if her self esteem and integrity is in the gutter. She should go to one on one therapy instead of marriage counseling because she needs to leave and start anew.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 04:42 PM
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Okay thanks for the link!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 04:26 PM
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That makes sense and that’s probably how LVM view marriage. I also think that men are more romantic than women too so a lot of them grow up believing they’ll meet their wife and experience love at first sight. The women they settled for tend to be the women they marry just for constant sex and housework. I personally want to have children so I’m only going to consider marriage if I’ve vetted that man ruthlessly and have a really good prenup and job that will support me and my children if somethi…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 04:25 PM
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Hmm I haven’t seen that view but I’ll look into it. I’ve just heard from other psychiatrists and psychologists that they usually need victims which is why they love bomb and DARVO so often. I guess the view has changed but it would make sense they have too much self esteem too.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 04:15 PM
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That’s different from marriage though. Of course men are desperate for sex but not enough to tie themselves to one woman for the rest of their lives unless they literally have no other options. That’s why they love forever girlfriends. No true commitment there. They can cheat without legal consequences.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 04:09 PM
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Seriously. I’ve never understood it either. You can have both. Why do people think we need to settle for old ugly men to get nice things. I’ve dated plenty of engineers, tech guys, finance guys, etc. and got treated nicely. All of them were fresh out of college and making a decent amount of money. It just doesn’t make sense to me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 04:05 PM
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This actually makes a lot of sense too. I could see it being both low self esteem or narcissism but narcissists actually have really low self esteem. They rely on other people’s attention to feel good about themselves. Either way, I’ve met women who discount the validity of marriage and use it as an excuse to engage in shitty behavior.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 04:01 PM
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For sure. I’m not taking away blame from the men but there are women who actively seek married men because being the other woman is an ego boost for them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 03:59 PM
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Thanks for that. She really needs a voice of reason. That man cheated with a woman young enough to be his daughter. There’s not enough counseling to fix that. Also peep their age gap and when they met. Seems like he’s alway had a thing for twenty year olds.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 03:49 PM
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I think extremely low. They probably don’t think they deserve better than old married dick so they convince themselves their behavior is somehow “empowering” or whatever.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 03:47 PM
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I met a few and they’re insufferable. They think they’re so quirky and cool for destroying other people’s marriages and they brag about it not knowing everyone around them is cringing. Edit: need to add I’m not victim blaming here. I’m talking about a specific type of woman who revels in getting older married men to cheat on their wives with them. In OP’s case, she was probably groomed and manipulated and of course it’s always the married man’s fault whether or not the woman knew he was married …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 03:38 PM
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I honestly thought I was in an alternate universe scrolling through those comments. The fact that people are actually advising her not to divorce is insanity. This is taking communicate to another level.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 03:03 PM
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Exactly! Like I feel really bad for her but reddit is not the place to process this. She needs to go talk to another woman who is hopefully not a pickme so she can get some sense in her head. He was probably going to keep cheating if he didn’t get caught. He’s already a liar. Why would you reconcile with that?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 03:02 PM
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Yep. I was surprised when she said she doesn’t want to throw away her marriage at the end. I understand infidelity can be hurtful and confusing but he was sleeping with a woman that could be his daughter. That would be enough for me to kick him out immediately and consult a lawyer for divorce. No talking.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 02:56 PM
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It’s insane the amount of comments I saw telling her to calm down and not do anything she would regret. I even saw one arguing against her telling her family and friends what her husband did because “she might want to reconcile and it will be hard when her support system is against him.” Anyways, women really need to stop coming to reddit for advice because this both sides forgiveness crap is getting insane.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 02:47 PM
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Eh you can think that I guess. I think only the ugly ones are that desperate. I’ve seen too many men shuffle through relationships waiting a decade before deciding to get married to their girlfriend to believe that many of them are that desperate. If they were so desperate, forever girlfriends wouldn’t be more common than fast tracked relationships.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 02:07 PM
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No men do that when they’re desperate, getting old, and they know they’re running out of time. I’ve known a few healthy marriages, including my parents, and the man always says he knew in his gut his wife was the woman he’s always wanted. They usually don’t say it right away, but they have an inkling and do everything in their power not to lose you. I’ve also had a lot of guy friends growing up and the women they didn’t treat well they knew immediately weren’t the ones they wanted to commit to. …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 02:01 PM
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Black woman as well. I’ve seen too many women mule for men for nothing. I love how men make fun of us for the “independent black woman” trope but id rather be that than a man’s sugar mama. I’m not gonna lower myself just so some ungrateful self obsessed man will use and abuse me. No thanks.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 12:51 AM
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Yes to all of this. This is a major aspect of pickmes that makes it hard for me to sympathize sometimes. The ones whose lives bottom out tend to come back to this sub, understandably, realizing that we were right. It’s a form of narcissism to me as well because they truly think they are better than us until they’re forced to become us. And then the ones who have severe cognitive dissonance fall harder into libfem mentality and become more reckless around men in attempt to escape from what happen…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/12/20 08:35 PM
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Exactly. There was a post talking about “healing” that truly pissed me off because apparently HVW aren’t bitter and jaded about men. The one thing I hate the most about liberal feminism is how much they care about male validation. They’re so afraid of being seen ass crazy b*tches that they constantly have to say: “I don’t hate all men, and I don’t think all men are this way” whatever. Who cares? There are women dying. Just because you live in a westernized country doesn’t mean everything is hunk…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/12/20 02:45 PM
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Exactly. It’s takes a long time for women to learn this though. That’s why I roll my eyes at what they think is empowerment. Just like the casual sex/sex positive movement, men will just think you’re easy and a chump. I don’t understand how that’s owning the patriarchy when the people you’re going against think you’re doing them a service. 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/12/20 03:10 AM
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I have a feeling she’ll be having another update talking about how his sex drive is low again and he won’t let her into his “sexuality” anymore. Yeah it’s exciting when they finally let you in but eventually they’ll go back to masturbating because it’s an addiction. He would rather stare at a screen than have actual sex. Good luck to her but nothings gonna change. I’ve seen women go through this so many times. I’ve gone through this myself. At least she’s right about the problem not being her.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/12/20 01:27 AM
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It’s always the worst men who can’t understand why they never get second dates or ghosted. Somehow I’ve never been asked to split the bill but my first boyfriend in high school paid for everything so I thought that was the norm. I learned in college that women pay half after listening to my friends and this was after a few more college boyfriends too. I don’t blink an eye because I expect it. Still haven’t had a man bring it up but when that day comes I’ll make it as awkward as possible.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/20 08:40 PM
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Yes. All of this. It’s really just that simple.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/20 08:10 PM
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Exactly. It’s not just about dating. It’s common courtesy. They invited you out and asked for your time. It’s just them appreciating you for taking time out of your schedule to spend time with them. I have very generous friends and male or female we pay for each other when we go out together because we love each other.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/20 07:54 PM
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Exactly. It’s not necessarily that you need to date multiple people but keeping your options open allows you to be level headed and see the bigger picture. Talking to one man at a time causes tunnel vision and the disappointment is harder to get over because you’ll think you’ll never find someone again. With options you know you have choice and can move on to something better.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/20 06:30 PM
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Exactly. I understand the initial thought process but it changes nothing. If anything, I think it fuels the entitlement because once you let them pay for something they think you’re free game. Entitled men are going to be entitled whether or not they pay on a date. Better to lose nothing to a cheap loser than help him save money for his next victim. Also women deserve to feel courted and appreciated. Gay/lesbian people wouldn’t even dream of these conversations because it’s a given that whoever …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/20 05:49 PM
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Because it’s rooted in men wanting to punish women for wanting to feel desired and courted in a relationship. Even in nonstraight relationships the asker/purser does the paying. Men not wanting to impress the women they ask out and pursue is them wanting to assert power on women for not being owed anything from the interaction.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/20 05:43 PM
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Exactly. All these women are working harder. Why would you waste your coin on a man who’s trying to play you anyway? Leave them behind and only allow well intentioned men near you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/20 05:18 PM
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Yes. They’re the only ones who deserve it. 🙌🏾
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/20 04:08 PM
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I’ve personally always been okay with dating multiple people because the men I’m dating don’t own me. Most of them are trying to get in my pants anyway so I don’t devote all my time and attention into them until they’ve shown me that I’m more than just a girl they’re seeing. Don’t tell them you’re seeing other people. They should assume that from the get go because you were a person before you met. Imagine going on a date with a man from OLD and cutting off every other man before getting to know…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/20 03:56 PM
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Oh dear. Those types of women are dangerous. I understand being empathetic with them but there’s a point where self discipline is necessary. Dating during a pandemic like that is selfish. She’s putting other people’s lives on the line to get a little male validation. Cheap male validation at that. I’m glad you’re cutting that out because she clearly doesn’t care about your safety either.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/20 03:05 PM
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Exactly. Too many women out there looking for male validation thinking this is the way to get a man to love you. News flash! It’s not. Men are opportunistic. Give them a chance to cheap out and they will gladly. It won’t stop him from disrespecting you and expecting you to put out though.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/20 03:02 PM
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Yep! All the women who think it’s empowering are hustling backwards.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/20 02:40 PM
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Yep. Women and men are raised so differently. It’s why I don’t care for the lurkers who say all the women here have just been battered and abused so their “jaded.” Even if that were true, those men have probably never had a woman feel safe enough to open up to them and disclose their hurtful past. A majority of women have experienced violence from men some way or another. It’s not some choice we make because we hate men. It’s reality. All the people using that cope for this sub are misogynistic …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/20 02:09 PM
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Yep, I never take what men say seriously because most men are a) delusional b) manipulative or c) both. They withhold information about themselves constantly. If he’s telling you about that one ex that cheated on him it’s because he knows how empathetic women and he’ll use it against you. Most men are opportunistic so they’ll take any chance they can get to make you feel bonded to their “vulnerability.” Interesting how they rarely open up about other things that diminish their masculinity but th…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/20 02:05 PM
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Both (broke and rich) are entitled because men are raised to be entitled over women’s bodies. I say cheap men even more because they see those coffee dates and drinks dates as investments that need returns since they scrounge every dollar. The rich men who are super entitled that I’ve met have all been cheap. Cheapness isn’t exclusive to how much money a man makes its a mentality. That’s why you avoid cheap men because they’re so transactional. Generosity is best. Edit: also I don’t understand t…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/20 12:49 PM
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Yeah but now you’re paying for a man to feel entitled to you. You don’t lose anything by him feeling that way and you just walking away. Also cheap men are the most entitled men. There’s no escaping male entitlement. At least give him a financial consequence for his shitty behavior.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/12/20 08:19 PM
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I’m gonna start telling them I like a man who pays my bills and lavishes me with his time attention and money just to see if he tries to be all that. Might as well get something out of it lol. He probably won’t though since most LVM are broke and hate women.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/12/20 03:29 PM
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Ugh not surprising especially with their stance on FDS. Unfortunately, this will affect younger women because they’re the type to push the existence of misandry. I hate how that term has been legitimized because now there are actual “feminists” who are afraid of being called misandrists as if men should even be afraid of women’s anger. It completely dissolves the power dynamics at play under the patriarchy and puts men and women on the same level like we already have equality. Hopefully some act…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/12/20 03:24 PM
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This is the truth. I’ve always been a silent anger type so when I would get angry at my exes they would scrounge around trying to fix what was wrong. I was younger then so obviously I didn’t leave when I should have but I learned silence forced them to figure out what’s wrong because they’re afraid to be left behind. Unfortunately, all my exes were LVM so don’t really care to use those relationships as good examples, but they were in love with me. I just know now that LVM love being ignored for …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/12/20 03:20 PM
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I got the same message! Their post history was so weird🤮
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/12/20 09:23 PM
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This cake is gorgeous! You’re so talented!😍❤️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/12/20 07:34 PM
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Trust and believe if it was a woman acting this way they would be calling her all sorts of names and telling the guy he was right to leave. Suddenly having boundaries is understandable when it’s a man being played.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/12/20 05:48 PM
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Yes to all of this. Also, one thing that’s really a damper to learn is that people rarely change. They need a solid reason to and they also need to have the drive and ambition to do so as well. Very few men start out as abusive misogynists and turn into HVM. That’s why you shouldn’t want to make a man change from your existence. He should have already changed far before you met him and lived up to the repercussions of whatever he was before you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/12/20 05:01 PM
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I agree. I personally don’t care if I’m seen as bitter and personally, I think a HVM would recognize why women would feel that way when an alarming number of women have been raped, sexually assaulted, abused or killed. Pretending like this isn’t a reality for women around the world isn’t productive because the patriarchy isn’t about feelings. It’s a system meant to destroy women who live outside the confines of male power and ownership. I’m from an African country and knowing that there are wome…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/12/20 04:31 PM
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Yeah like I’m not advocating for men to sell an arm or a leg but if I’m going to lose years from my life from tying myself to you legally, that ring better be nice as hell. To me it’s more of a liability especially since men benefit the most from marriage. Ain’t no way I’ll sacrifice my peace for a ring that will turn my finger green.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/12/20 04:16 PM
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It’s crazy because when those women do give them a chance, they either end up in a dead bedroom because attraction is important or they abuse you for lowering yourself to their level.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/12/20 04:09 PM
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I hate that saying. Yesterday I read a post from around woman who was clearly HV. She chastised her SIL for telling her to lower her standards after complaining about the shit she encounter in the dating world. Of course the comments come out saying “most people mean looks when they say that” or “you better uphold those standards yourself too.” First of all, women are allowed to have physical preferences just like men. Why are we all supposed to be okay with bald ugly dad bod men? Second of all,…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/12/20 04:07 PM
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Yeah it’s definitely a cultural thing because it’s also symbolism. A man who cheaps out on your engagement ring is a man who doesn’t care about you or embarrassing you. I talked to my mom who is African about it and at first she wondered why they were such a big deal. But then she realized that they have their own expensive custom where a man has to give the brides family cows, gifts, and sometimes money and she realized that’s equivalent to the cost of an engagement ring. The engagement party i…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/12/20 03:59 PM
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Wait so she’s acting like this guy was the one wanting to pay a lot for a ring for her? She knows her relationships embarrassing and now she’s trying to convince other people to join in. Misery loves company I guess.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/12/20 03:49 PM
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I’m 22 and so glad I found this sub last year. I feel like I’m finally confident enough to live out my twenties and experiment romantically without feeling like I’m missing out by being alone. I’ve honestly never been happier. FDS has allowed me to live more freely than when I was constantly worrying about relationships and men.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/12/20 05:08 AM
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This is the one!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/12/20 04:26 AM
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The difference is, level headed men wouldn’t say it out loud because they know it sounds crazy. They initially think it and then wait the appropriate time to say the L word. If a man isn’t incredibly infatuated with you and then falls in love with you, you’re a place holder. Only the abusers and manipulators will perform love before establishing a solid connection with you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/12/20 05:04 AM
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Lmaoo Buffalo Wild Wings is cheap as hell. I hope she breaks up with his ass.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/12/20 02:13 AM
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They want to punish us for asking for equality. He hates feminism and wants to control women so he uses his relationships to show women how he truly feels about them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/12/20 02:10 AM
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Ladies. This is why you don’t do wife things for men. They just take it for granted. They don’t see it as you displaying wife qualities but as a feature that comes with the model. They won’t appreciate your hard work. I honestly pretend I can’t cook for the life of me when I date guys so when I do, it seems extra special. I hope she stops cooking for him and realizes he thinks she’s auditioning for a role a his girlfriend/fiancé/wife.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/12/20 12:27 AM
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I’ve noticed men who match and let you start the conversation are either just not interested enough or too insecure to put themselves out there. I don’t want either so I don’t bother. I’ve also had men unmatch me if I don’t start the conversation right after matching with them. If a man wants me he can come get me but I’m not jumping through hoops to impress a man who is probably on dating apps to hookup with as many women possible.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/12/20 07:49 PM
10

I saw this video and laughed because this man is lying. People who think like this man have never been outside and met real people. They’re constantly on social media thinking rich people/accomplished people only date Instagram models when that’s far from the truth. I’ve met tons of women who’ve been able to find handsome accomplished men even while single moms. He’s angry that these women exist and he’s trying to change the narrative to benefit him. It doesn’t matter your skin color, weight, lo…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/12/20 01:17 PM
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Lol I guess I can because through listening to past guy friends I’ve just learned LVM operate through their ego and laziness. It’s why they hate FDS women because we don’t stroke their ego and mommy them. I honestly think LVM are very boring cause they’re so simple😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/12/20 02:48 AM
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Low self esteem and no standards? 🤷🏾‍♀️ It honestly amazes me that most women have convinced themselves that good sex doesn’t need to end with an orgasm. Hopefully they wake up.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/12/20 06:28 PM
53

Yeah that’s the thing about those men is they’re sociopathic. They hate women so they literally can’t connect to their humanity. Using women when you don’t think they’re human is easy.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/12/20 04:14 PM
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Because men need the ego boost. The women who truly want casual sex don’t settle for boring mediocre sex since they’re actually looking for an orgasm. Those types of women are work. The ones looking for relationships will settle for subpar sex for the exchange of romance which will inevitably never happen. That’s why so many straight women are stuck in mediocre relationships. They think this “exchange” will happen eventually.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/12/20 04:01 PM
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Yep. It’s all about ego for them. All the women falling for it don’t realize that a majority of men don’t see us as humans deserving of pleasure. Even the dating scene shows how much straight men hate women with how much they’re willing to fight for their right not to impress us romantically. Thinking this changes in the casual sex scene because there’s “no pressure” is just delusion. Especially considering the fact that 70 percent of heterosexual women don’t orgasm on a regular basis.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/12/20 02:45 PM
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Honestly I’m sick and tired of women even considering the former as dates. Anything outside of a romantic gesture is not a date me. I can take walks with a friend, I can watch Netflix with a friend, and I can get coffee with a friend. Even in a long term relationship I don’t want those kinds of “dates” because I think they foster complacency. I feel like there needs to be a clear difference between dates and quality time because once those two get smushed, men think any time you spend with them …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/12/20 05:43 AM
44

The best date I ever went on, I told him I wanted to do something new outdoors since it was summer and I live in a hot state with a bunch of water attractions. The next day he asked if I wanted to go to a beautiful river and go kayaking. He told me to meet him at eight in the morning, we had breakfast at a really nice spot and stopped by the store to pick up some snacks and he had already packed everything we needed for the day. He had set up the appointment for the tandem kayaking and everythin…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/12/20 05:38 AM
153

Honestly. I think it’s so hard to get out of the pickme mindset because those women eventually do get picked...but by the worst men. Healthy men run and let them down soft and then the avoidants who aren’t abusive ghost or breadcrumb them. The ones who pick them are the abusive types who love having someone to constantly validate their existence. The girls who have been picked have boyfriends with skidmarks in their underwear and have never properly taken care of themselves in their lives. They’…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/12/20 02:39 AM
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I actually cried laughing. That’s exactly what I was expecting. I hope he grows up because that delusion will make him really unstable.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/12/20 09:48 PM
15

The second guy made me laugh out loud. I can’t believe people this delusional exist. He really him and not his 6’4 friend is the one getting all the attention? I also wonder what he considers rejection🤔
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/12/20 09:16 PM
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That depends. Is he asking you on a meal based date or coffee? If it’s coffee than no but if it’s the former that’s fine. If you feel like it’s tacky than just suggest somewhere you would rather go.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/12/20 08:58 PM
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It means that you don’t need to stay with poor men because the misconception is that poorer men are kinder/ more humble then rich men. Financial security is important in relationships so falling for this idea is detrimental. Thus you’re just as capable as loving a rich man as much as a poor man.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/12/20 08:42 PM
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That’s what I think. I’ve always had the FDS mindset so I never had an issue finding men who were committed, generous and took me on dates the first few months. That was the bare minimum to me. Now I’m realizing this isn’t what everyone else experiences. It makes me wonder how many of these “HVM” are actually just doing the bare minimum or love bombing because so many women are used to being emotionally abused from the get go.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/12/20 06:41 PM
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I just saw this post and I died. It’s the bare minimum for a man to care about you. I’m glad she feels loved but it’s definitely setting the bar low since that’s what’s expected in general relationships.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/12/20 03:52 PM
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Exactly. Modern men are the most coddled people in society. They don’t have to do anything to get a woman’s attention. Imagine living in a world where women are encouraged to pay half the rent, do all the cooking, do all the cleaning, do all the child rearing, get an education, gain a stable career and be emotionally present in relationship while men are expected to do what? Exist? The way these women talk about men, especially on reddit has convinced me that that’s all men are expected of. I’m …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/12/20 03:13 PM
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Honestly these posts annoy me too because we already say HVMs are extremely rare so most of these men are masquerading as HVM. The bar is in the earth’s core for straight men so it doesn’t take that much to impress a woman, especially one that has an abusive history. I do think it’s mostly newbies like this because the more seasoned FDSers know to always be on the watch even if it’s been years. You never know with men so you always have to be prepared. It’s just not smart to assume a man’s a HVM…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/12/20 02:55 PM
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That’s what I was thinking. A lot of newbies comment and then get downvoted to hell because they didn’t read the handbook. I wish there was a quiz or something to stop this because I’m tired of having to repeat things that have already been discussed.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/12/20 02:49 PM
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I read the comments and she had just met this man on OLD. They didn’t know each other before. Also FDS is against crushes because you wear rose colored glasses and cause yourself to create a false image of the person you’re seeing. Being in love is bad considering she does not know this man and who he truly is. It’s fine when you’ve been together for a while but two dates is borderline insane. I’ve felt like this before and it’s really unhealthy. It’s a form of escapism. Based on her comments, s…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/11/20 05:25 PM
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That’s what I was thinking. You don’t feel this way unless someone’s psyche is triggering. I remember feeling like this in the past and it took me years to get over. He was an avoidant:/
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/11/20 02:47 PM
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Yep. I don’t think her response is being reciprocated at all. If he felt the same about her, he would have been chatting her up because he couldn’t stop thinking about her but there’s no mention of that. Someone mentioned how them sleeping in the same bed would feel and she said she turned super red. I get that that feeling is intoxicating but she’s setting herself up for a major downfall when she realizes this dude isn’t Prince Charming.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/11/20 02:30 PM
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That’s what I was thinking. It seems like a form of escapism. I personally don’t think you should feel this way until you’ve known each other for a while, but even then, crushes are not a good thing to indulge in. If this man can sense how much she likes him, he’s going to use her up and spit her out. Hopefully he’s not the type to, but she’s definitely romanticizing him.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/11/20 02:21 PM
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Exactly. People always want the easy way out. It’s hard to switch your mind frame because we all want to believe we can live this fairytale easy life where we find “the one” and your life is done. FDS is not that. We aren’t here to tell women how to get men but rather how to navigate a world full of LVM. If you are lucky and end up with the mythical HVM good for you, but that doesn’t mean you can stop pushing yourself to be the best you can be and revolve your life around this man and his needs.…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/11/20 10:56 PM
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I meant to crop that part out but it’s on Twitter! It was a really good thread: https://twitter.com/_moimichelle/status/1332405134974849030?s=21
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/11/20 10:17 PM
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I feel this hard. All of my exes were like this and now I’m strict about my time when I first start dating someone, I stick to once a week. Once we’re established I go to 2-3. Men who wanted to see me everyday were always suffocating and it sucks that we make excuses because we deal with men on extreme side of the spectrum so frequently. I don’t trust men who require so much of my time because it feels like their trying to fill a void through me. I want a man who is complete without me and choos…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/11/20 09:26 PM
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This. I hate that people think misandry is a real thing. It’s like when people were calling reverse racism a decade ago. Misandry doesn’t exist because men aren’t oppressed by women. I wonder if people will get over that term or if they’ll keep letting it dilute the feminist movement because I keep seeing libfems legitimize this term.🤦🏾‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/11/20 04:08 PM
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That would be hilarious if we saw the same person. I decided to read his profile the second time he showed up on my feed so I’m guessing he’s trying to match with me again lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/11/20 08:35 PM
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I honestly don’t know. He’s clearly jaded and all his photos were filtered af.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/11/20 06:06 PM
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This is exactly how I feel. I decided to redownload tinder and the amount of men who’ve called me beautiful, cute, sexy or gorgeous is insane. I tried responding just to see what happened and low and behold, they were all boring as fuck and had nothing to contribute to the conversation. I deleted the app again for obvious reasons but that really showed me that men obsessed with looks only care about looks. I’m definitely not gonna go for someone who can only compliment my physical features becau…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/11/20 01:18 AM
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This made me cringe so bad. I honestly think she needs serious therapy if she thinks this is okay to do. There’s no way she’s mentally okay in the head if she is being serious about this. I hope she gets help.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/11/20 09:37 PM
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I honestly feel like they use that as propaganda or something against women. If they say it’s imprisonment then we’ll feel the need to convince them that marriage is what they want. I think now that women are realizing the realities of marriage, men can’t gaslight us into thinking we are the ones that need marriage when anecdotes and statistics say otherwise.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/11/20 06:06 PM
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Yep that and centering feminism around men. They keep trying to push that “men need feminism too!!1!” thing but forget that men will never willingly seize the power and privileges they gain from the patriarchy. They can keep going 50/50 and pretending like we live in this world of “equality” though. Couldn’t be me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/11/20 07:25 PM
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I always say to remember how you feel and act when you’re not into someone. You suddenly understand “mixed signals” when you realize they just aren’t sure about you. He’s not intimidated or a commitmentphobe. So yes he’s extremely boring but too much of a coward to end things the hard way.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/11/20 04:28 AM
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Same here. I’ve only seen a few marriages I respect. My parents being one of them because they’re actually best friends and enjoy each other’s company and spoil each other everyday. Every other marriage I’ve seen has just been a facade to get people to think they have their life together. That’s why I’m super picky now because I don’t want to end up being in one those “good for social media” relationships that everyone seems to have. My girlfriends in the past all have been in “Instagram” relati…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/11/20 07:08 PM
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I guess you met the rare HVM because a majority of the men I’ve met in life will easily throw away their friendships for a woman. I’ve had guys friends since I was a teen and they would put me in absurd love triangles constantly and I would watch them tear each other down. Once they would realize they didn’t have a chance, they would pretend like it never happened and the cycle would repeat a few months later. I don’t think I would ever want to be a man in a male friend group because it seems so…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/11/20 01:35 AM
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Yep. I always thought this behavior was a special case but I realized it wasn’t when I met a guy a was barely dating’s best friend. He was flirting with me right in front of him and it made me feel super uncomfortable and it ended up happening with the same guy but a different old time friend. Same thing happened with all my exes as well. Men have absolutely no loyalties and the whole “oh we just fight it out and move on” thing shows just how shallow their relationships are because it basically …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/11/20 01:32 AM
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Yep. When an attractive man gets attention, they start talking about how he probably has a small dick or can’t lift as much as them or something else stupid along those lines. The fact that men project this behavior on women is laughable because most women are told they need to be super complimentary towards beautiful women so they won’t get seen as catty or jealous. It’s the men who go unchecked for this kind of behavior and it’s why they hate teen pop idols so much.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/11/20 01:25 AM
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I think you’re misinterpreting what she’s talking about. It’s more like if you haven’t gone on a road trip together or vacation together, to make sure to do so before deciding to be with him legally or permanently. She’s saying to play close attention in those scenarios before deciding he’s an HVM. She even mentions in the post not to create your own tests but rather do these things together and sit back and observe. No one is saying to pop a tire or makeup a sick or dying relative. Maybe the wo…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/11/20 12:04 AM
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I don’t think that’s what she’s saying at all. She’s clearly advocating for paying closer attention in situations that can cause stress, not create it. Also, you can never vet enough. Like she said, a lot of men are great at faking and some women find out after marriage. It’s not distrusting your powers of vetting but instead keep you grounded. If you’re overly confident in your abilities it’s easier to get duped.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/11/20 11:49 PM
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I can’t with women like this. I’ve noticed they’re either always single or date the trashiest of trash men. I feel like men can smell the desperation so only the lowest of the low tolerate women like this. It’s gross and for a man to be okay with being the “master” of a woman. He has to be extremely insecure and have nothing else going for him. I hope she sees the light but that might be asking too much considering she thinks it’s okay to spend this much energy to keep a man.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/11/20 05:16 PM
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I almost had an aneurysm after reading engaged for 11 years!!! What the hell? Let me finish this because that’s actually insane. Edit: he’s just as bad as I thought he would be. Actually worse. There’s no way I would stay with a man like that. She’s right, she did give him her best years and hope she leaves him.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/11/20 08:27 PM
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Thanks girl😊
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/11/20 07:09 PM
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Yep I do the same. I go on dates excited about getting to try out a new restaurant or something on the menu while getting to know someone. I also don’t put pressure on the other person because what I’ve learned is there’s always something to talk about. Dating has never been taxing for me because I see it as a fun past time rather than an interrogation since there’s alway an abundance of men. If the man passes the first date, good for him but if he doesn’t, I wasn’t sweating anyway because my li…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/11/20 07:02 PM
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Exactly. People who date like that tell on themselves because they see dating as a chore rather than a fun new way to meet potential partners. If they actually cared about helping their date partner feel more comfortable they would spend more time talking or do a FaceTime/Skype first so they know they’re not being catfished and there’s chemistry. It’s all so disingenuous because the “issues” they use as an excuse can easily be managed. As for the women who feel this way, I think they just fell f…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/11/20 06:48 PM
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I actually think tiktok is helping with that. I’ve seen lots of HV dating coaches go viral and give advice similar to FDS. Teen girls are much better at spotting LVM behavior than in the past but unfortunately there’s the other side of the coin (porn obsession and pickmeism).
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/11/20 02:07 PM
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Women who think like this learn their lesson the hard way. They think they’re gonna take their romantic walk in the moonlight like in the movies but that park just gonna be full of dog poop or right next to a major highway. That’s if they even offer to take a walk in the park with you and not just “see where this walk takes us”. I’ve heard too many women who settle for low effort dates(coffee/walk) who complain later saying the dude was pushing for sex or plain rude and wouldn’t act like a norma…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/11/20 02:03 PM
10

Oh okay I guess I misread your question. Sorry.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/11/20 01:51 PM
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It’s not about having accurate pictures on your profile, it’s about having power. The men who offer these types of dates expect you to prove to them you’re worth spending money on. They most likely won’t change even if they offer better dates because they inherently thing women need to jump through hoops to be treated well. Edit: Also most pickup artists give this advice because it allows them to rotate women and gives them a false sense of superiority. It’s the same type of advice men would giv…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/11/20 01:40 PM
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This is such an insult.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/11/20 02:05 AM
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Ugh. She’s just an ego boost to him. That little part about the selfie was him fishing for compliments. Pretty men know what they’re doing. He’s probably done this to dozens of women.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/11/20 12:48 AM
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Don’t know why you’re being downvoted but you’re right. He doesn’t want to invest in her because he doesn’t see a future with her. If you look at her post history he’s no where near broke but he still chooses not to treat her for her birthday and is always 50/50. He’s either planning on leaving her or keeping her in the forever girlfriend category.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/11/20 12:26 AM
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That’s great news OP! I’m glad you’ll get to have fun on your birthday!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/11/20 12:13 AM
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Dating multiple people has been a thing since forever. Even before women were able to be independent they would have multiple suiters vying for their attention and they would pick who they wanted from there. The men who complain about leading people on or whatever are either ugly and have no options or manipulating the women they’re seeing into not considering their options. Also I wouldn’t care for the male perspective because any sort of input they have on dating is for their own personal gain…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/11/20 09:44 PM
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I would’ve loved it if this story ended with you dumping him but I’m glad you stuck up for yourself. Just remember you deserve better and to be with someone who lives to make you happy. Every day you spend with this man is another day unhappy.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/11/20 09:32 PM
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Lmaoo true. There are legitimately women who search for hobosexuals because they think they’ll never leave them. Little do they know🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/11/20 02:05 AM
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Because women make their lives easier. They can pretend to like a woman who will pay half his bills, cook for him, be his sexdoll and do all his chores. Unfortunately, men don’t lose much from being in relationships with women they hate.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/11/20 11:38 PM
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Yeah, somehow women are supposed to do their research and practice every sex act on the planet or else our SO will cheat on us, but men can go on being blundering idiots because they “can’t read minds” or whatever. I’ve noticed that women are expected to “read minds” because we’re taught to be so sensitive to their needs. I hope women start waking up and realize doing all these gymnastics in bed isn’t worth it. I will forever be a pillow princess until a man proves himself. 😌
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/11/20 10:50 PM
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I’m sorry but it looks disgusting 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/11/20 10:39 PM
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Yeah you got down voted for you comment as well but I agree with both of you. I refuse to believe that there aren’t intellectual men that I can connect with because even if that’s true, it puts me in a bad mindset. It also takes a lot for me to be impressed now because I usually see the first three dates as a LVM trial period where I expect the man to be a dud. I never assume a man is HVM because he appears to be intellectual because I’ve met a lot of men who are good at acting that way and havi…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/11/20 02:32 PM
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I’m sick. This is truly how men think of you when you approach them. For all the lurking pickmes, please listen when we tell you you’re not doing men a favor when you approach them. They just think you’re thirsty, desperate and nobody wants you. I never understood approaching men first because they don’t have options so they’ll take what they can get, but alas, somebody needs to hear it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/11/20 12:54 AM
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I definitely think it does. There’s a whole subset in the comedy genre for ugly men who are funny enough to bag the hot, accomplished women. You rarely see the same in reverse. Men are also taught that their “true love” will accept them for who they are so they see no need to change themselves. We’re b*tches if we force them to become better, accomplished people. I honestly think the media feeding them these thoughts is why there are so many delusional incels because they truly think they’re liv…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/11/20 12:47 AM
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I wonder why he only mentioned his height and no other characteristics?🤔 The amount of men who are so delusional that they think extremely attractive women are in their league is insane. Porn truly does fry their brains.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 09:48 PM
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Omg I’m dying at this story. What did she steal?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 07:54 PM
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I started doing this last year. I also put them on do not disturb so I don’t waste mental space thinking about their messages. Once they stop responding regularly or ask me on a shitty date idea I delete the conversation and block. At first it was hard, but now it takes a lot for me to care about messaging a man.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 07:02 PM
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I honestly get where you’re coming from because I don’t have expectations for men. If anything my expectations are that he’ll throw a bunch of red flags at me and be a LVM. It’s really bad to go to every date expecting the man to be your prince in shining armor because you’ll start thinking he’s special before you even know him. I always remind myself that they’re strangers so I can’t assume anything about them. It also defeats the purpose of FDS which is to be constantly vetting rather than sto…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 04:57 PM
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Exactly. When a man does that, I automatically lose respect for him because it means he’s so desperate he would risk his life and home for some pussy. I’d rather be with a man who’s picky and has standards.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 04:54 PM
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Yeah. It’s the pity matches for me too. Their either short, have no social skills, or are ugly. The good looking men usually go for drinks if their scum or blatantly state their looking to hookup. I’ve noticed the men who love going for coffee are the faux intellectuals or the “nice guys” too. I’m glad we’ve both seen the light sis😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 04:15 PM
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Same here. I don’t even let bother me anymore. Before FDS, I used to think there was something wrong with me, but then I realized those are the kinds of men who think women should be auditioning for proper treatment. I’d rather have quality over quantity anyway.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 03:57 PM
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This is exactly how I feel. The standards need to be this high because women naturally overcompensate while men over exaggerate their qualities. There’s nothing wrong with these standards because the list needs to be long or you’ll pass over small yellow flags that will eventually turn into red flags.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 03:25 PM
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I’m honestly glad for this pandemic because men aren’t hiding their stupidity anymore. The audacity of saying dinner is too much of a risk but drinks and netflix and chilling isn’t? I ghosted a man for asking me for coffee a couple days ago. Turns me off so quickly.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 02:40 PM
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I think the part that makes it seem that way is your description of loneliness because it comes of as an anxious preoccupied attachment style which I’m sure you have addressed if that is your attachment style. I’m glad other newbies can read this and see what to be aware of on dates, but I also felt the same until I saw your comments. I guess it would come off as less overly invested if it was in bulletpoint form rather than an essay. Either way, I’m glad you spoke about your experience and are …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 02:38 PM
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I’ve noticed they always do the public date first and then later back track and add the more intimate option. He’s being obtuse and I hope you left him on read. I’m grossed out he even asked you on a walk and thought a cuddle would be fine right after🤮
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 02:09 PM
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I think you should just make sure she has self respect and confidence. It’s important to remind her she’s beautiful and she doesn’t need validation from men because she’ll always be enough. I also grew up being told education and ambition was the most important thing so that’s what I ended up caring most about. I’m not a parent, but just be a rock to your daughter and remind her what’s important when you can. That’s the best advice I can give. I hope that helps!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 01:33 AM
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Yep. Being chill gets you nothing because unless you’re truly “chill” you’re going to be playing an exhausting character for the rest of your life. Once you back away from it, there’s no going back because now it seems you were ingenuous from the beginning which is shitty on both parts. Be who you are from the beginning.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/10/20 05:04 PM
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No problem! Glad to help:)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/10/20 02:57 PM
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The problem is, when you give this information to any man you date, you’re wasting your time and opening up past wounds. In my opinion, there is absolutely no reason to tell men you’re past trauma if you’ve over come it. You are a new person now. Unless it effects them directly, there is no reason to. You will never regret not sharing information. It’s much worse to find out someone you trusted is trash and now they have the power to tarnish your image. It’s about keeping yourself safe. The conc…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/10/20 02:38 PM
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I think this fact is the hardest for recovering pickmes because we’ve been socialized to believe we owe men we’re intimate with full disclosure. Men don’t even follow this demand. Often, they’ll tell you convenient bits of trauma because they know how to weaponize women’s empathy. For the women who still don’t believe in this piece of advice, remember that men are not like women. They don’t empathize or sympathize with people easily. They only see weakness and strength. Even if you think the man…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/10/20 02:28 PM
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It’s honestly pathetic for a man to do that. I can’t believe men of this generation. They want to act like they’re the victim when most of their lives are cushioned and much easier than men in the past. Back then, if word got around that a man was begging for expensive gifts from his traditional/feminine wife/gf, he would get laughed out of town. It’s insane that they think “equality” means them doing absolutely nothing and having all the privileges of being a man. I hope younger women counter t…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/10/20 01:06 AM
127

What is with women giving men expensive gifts? I’m sorry but they really don’t appreciate those kinds of gestures. Most of them feel smothered and manipulated when women do that. I feel so bad for her, I hope she doesn’t have to experience getting a shitty gift in response because that’s one of the worst feelings.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/10/20 11:10 PM
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Yeah it’s insane how many “cool girls” pressure women to be miserable. I saw a reddit post on the relationship sub where a girl was complaining about her boyfriends porn issue and another girl was telling her how her boyfriend watched it in front of her, followed insta models, and objectified other women with him. She felt she was so cool and mature for it. What these women tend to miss is that if it were the other way around, their boyfriends would see it as disrespect and beg them not to. You’…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/10/20 11:08 PM
12

Oof this has never been me. I remember in the past my bfs would beg for me to get them gifts while I got nice gifts from them. I’m better and more mature now, but I’m glad I’ve never spent time and energy on a gift to get a thoughtless gift in return.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/10/20 05:21 PM
19

Lmao. What men would participate in this? They can barely write a legible bio. Plus they’re not trying to get in actual relationships so this would be too much work for men just trying to get laid: news flash, this is 99% of men on OLD.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/10/20 02:55 PM
69

This type of thinking is hilarious considering how much “emotional trauma” men get when one woman cheats on them. Suddenly only the most evil people would think of cheating if it happens to them. They have no sense of sympathy what so ever. Unfortunately, for men like this to learn a semblance of empathy, the LVW who cheat help teach that lesson for us.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/10/20 02:52 PM
7

Same. Every time a man his called me beautiful, gorgeous, whatever, the conversation went absolutely nowhere. They rarely ask questions.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/10/20 01:41 AM
28

Girl when I was thirteen I started seeing the movement of men opting out of marriage or whatever and I panicked. I started trying googling how to be the perfect wife and the perfect woman so a man would want to marry me. I was so afraid of dying alone. 🤡 How I’m glad I grew up.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/10/20 01:37 AM
20

I can’t believe what it’s like growing up as a teen right now. The younger generation is going to be even more pornsick and depraved. I’ve seen tiktoks and comments from teenage boys and they are vile. I really feel for teen girls because it’s only getting worse.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/10/20 01:34 AM
21

I’ve seen too many women try to save men and you know what they say when you try: “I didn’t ask you to do all that.” There’s literally no winning. We need to be just as selfish as them because even they don’t want to be saved.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/10/20 01:33 AM
40

I love how men say this but they hate women that are dependent. Any woman that advertises needing help from partners gets labeled as clingy and codependent, but let it be a man and suddenly he’s displaying his “vulnerabilities” and “opening up to you.” No. Get a therapist. 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/10/20 01:31 AM
6

Exactly. Political differences should be enough to reconsider a relationship. Those beliefs are fundamental and say a lot about a person.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/10/20 12:25 AM
158

Omg I screamed! Don’t be scared, write some more😌😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/10/20 09:06 PM
34

This is blatantly false especially considering the events surrounding the Supreme Court yesterday. Women are already about to lose their right to an abortion and the Supreme Court can easily make gay marriage illegal again. As a black woman, I will never give a trump supporter the benefit of the doubt. There is no way you can support that man without being complicit to the hatred and violence he incites.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/10/20 06:05 PM
27

I don’t understand what you’re getting at because human rights are definitely universal. The state or law doesn’t decide what human rights are. Just because other countries are behind in human rights doesn’t mean it’s okay to think oppressed people can be discarded and mistreated.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/10/20 04:04 PM
58

Lmaooo. True. A conservative one at that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/10/20 03:57 PM
38

Yeah. People are telling her to get a divorce in the comments but she’s saying she wants to “work it out” before coming to that decision. 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/10/20 03:52 PM
60

Yep. I’m sorry but this type of “difference” should not be normalized in a relationship. It’s gross that people are pushing the narrative that you can coexist with people that don’t see you as human.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/10/20 03:52 PM
56

Yep. It’s selfishness to the tee. You should already be compassionate and care about issues that hurt other people. I would never have relationships with people who aren’t compassionate to others because eventually you’ll be on the other side of that treatment. You can’t believe you’re the exception with those types of people. Their personal gain is the most crucial aspect of their decisions. That’s why I’ve also ended friendships during COVID because following guidelines and restrictions means …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/10/20 03:50 PM
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We really can’t. This is why I believe a majority of things are political. The idea that you dodge these types of conversations before marriage is stupidity. Being a woman or gay or nonwhite means you existence is inherently political. Unfortunately she has to learn that the hard way by getting a divorce rather than having those conversations early on.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/10/20 03:46 PM
48

I learned how not to chase by remembering the type of relationship/man I want. I’ve always wanted to be with a man that worships the ground I walk on and treats me with respect and dignity. If I were to imagine that man, I know he wouldn’t think twice not to chase me and make sure I’m secure. A man who is madly in love wouldn’t wait around for you because they would be afraid of losing you. Realizing this has made me rule out any man that doesn’t think to engage with me first. I just automatical…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/10/20 12:31 PM
78

Anyways, I’ve never said I love you to a man first and I never will. As the usual saying goes “if he wanted to he would.” The fact that they’ve been dating for a year and a half and he hasn’t uttered that phrase is enough for me. I’ve dated men who were afraid of intimacy or being hurt and they still said that phrase to me within 3-6 months. When a man doesn’t tell you he loves you, he’s telling you you’re a placeholder and he’s happy keeping up appearances until he finds some he truly loves. Th…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/10/20 12:26 PM
33

If I was that boyfriend, I would continue being late to things because clearly he’s getting rewarded for that behavior. 🤦🏾‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/10/20 12:55 AM
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Yes. The problems with pickmes is that they’re not just hurting themselves. They’re incentivizing LVM behavior. I hate the fact that courting is basically nonexistent and that women shoulder entire relationships now. Even asking for a dinner date is seen as extreme because there are women willing to fuck for texts. It’s insanity and I really want more women to wake up to their crackhead behavior.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/10/20 09:32 PM
20

Oh yeah some men can be scummy about it but they end up looking crazy when they go back on their word. That’s why you need clear actions of commitment as well. Either way, never give men the benefit of the doubt🤷🏾‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/10/20 03:13 PM
10

One hundred percent. I couldn’t imagine being this much of her dick unwillingly.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/10/20 01:00 PM
11

Oof. This is exactly why you should never fall for the idea of having low expectations or being low maintenance. Some how men find a way to go even lower. Closed mouths don’t get fed. I hope she breaks up with him and finds self respect.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/10/20 12:58 PM
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This was my last relationship. After that, I made the decision to never date a broke/cheap man ever again. I don’t want to experience that anxiety or embarrassment again. He was also super insecure and constantly thought I deserved better than him. I did but it wasn’t fun being reminded of it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/10/20 04:15 AM
12

Ugh. I wish there was a PSA for women to not accept these types of offers at all. She shouldn’t even be racking her mind on how to politely get this man to consider her safety.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/10/20 04:09 AM
15

Yes, rejection is just another way for the universe to leave the door open for something that fits you better. We need to have a more positive outlook on rejection because when a man rejects you he is saving your time. I would rather get rejected and move to meeting new people then be dragged along by a man who is barely enthusiastic about me. Just see it as a blessing and not a curse.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/10/20 04:07 AM
51

Yes also stop giving the HVM label to men you’ve known for less than a year ladies! NVM/LVM until proven otherwise.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/10/20 04:01 AM
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Lmao. This is why I’m single until commitment is expressed explicitly. I hate when men say stuff like “you know what we are” because it’s so vague and they know they can backtrack with no guilt. If the word girlfriend doesn’t come out of his mouth, I’ll continue going on dates with other men. It’s as simple as that. Edit: wording
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/10/20 04:00 AM
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Personally I’m fine with it. It weeds out the LVM for me. I won’t need to worry about vetting for it if the man is blatantly parading it lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/10/20 01:11 PM
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The fact that she thinks this is cute. I love the tiktok genre of couples accidentally sharing their shitty relationship dynamic and having to defend it endlessly. Hopefully she wakes and realizes this isn’t cute and that she shouldn’t be with a man who cares less about making her wait for him for hours.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/10/20 01:09 PM
2

Oh my gosh I’m so sorry that happened to you. I’m glad you’re alive and had someone there to help you in that situation. ❤️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/10/20 12:20 AM
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Thank you!:)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/10/20 03:17 PM
4

Exactly. The only men that have treated me like a queen have been the ones who initiated because they didn’t want to miss the chance of getting to know me. I don’t understand the implication of being submissive. None of us here are submissive. Just because you aren’t doing the approaching doesn’t mean you are submissive it just means you’re not putting yourself in the suitor position. If anything FDS is about being apathetic towards men to the point where they have to be intentional and communic…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/10/20 03:17 PM
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Yeah. I think she believes that confidence means chasing when you have to notice the society around you. You can approach all the men you want but it’ll be a waste because 1. It’s seen is desperate 2. He can easily trick and manipulate you into having sex and 3. You will be expected to keep that same energy for the rest of the relationship. I think she’ll have to come to terms with reality soon because I feel like we’ve all been through that phase before realizing that men are leeches and get wh…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/10/20 03:07 PM
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You’re completely misinterpreting FDS. Men are competitive and they go for what they want. An HVM would never leave a woman to do the work in the courting stage because he understands romance. Never. Ever. Make the first move for a man because that is a major turn off because of socialization and societal implications. You’re also subjecting yourself to a man who lacks interest. As the old mantra goes “women get who they choose and men get who they can.” It’s extremely bad advice to tell women t…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/10/20 03:03 PM
31

Ma’am this is a joke. It’s not meant to be taken seriously
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/10/20 03:06 AM
12

No problem!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/10/20 01:14 AM
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Honestly I commend you but most men on reddit are pornsick, LV losers so arguing with them is like arguing with a wall. Of course they would think this post is “toxic” because 9/10 women with options reject them and they’d rather complain on the internet than go out and become a better option.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/10/20 01:09 AM
63

Lmao I’m actually dying. They think that’s toxic?? Like men don’t make shitty jokes about women all day everyday.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/10/20 12:56 AM
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Lol what sub was it? They’re just mad women have options
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/10/20 12:46 AM
58

It’s actually insane how many men have been bullied into marriage. It’s sad how women feel they should annoy a man into marrying them. I can only think of a handful of married couples that genuinely like each other and aren’t married for the social status and benefits that come with marriage.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/10/20 07:42 PM
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Lmao I love your labiaplasty for a man part. Like I would never ever ever change my vagina so a man will like looking at it. That’s extreme pickme behavior. We should really learn to accept our bodies as they are and only make choices concerning them for our own self centered reasons.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/10/20 07:38 PM
13

Wow. I was about to join that sub. Why aren’t straight men this good looking on average? Really goes to show that it’s just their laziness at this point.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/10/20 02:03 PM
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Exactly. It’s the idea that men existing is enough for women to be grateful. They don’t like women having expectations because they think it’s their birth right to have girlfriends/wives.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/10/20 01:05 AM
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Exactly. It’s the idea that men existing is enough for women to be grateful. They don’t like women having expectations because they think it’s their birth right to have girlfriends/wives.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/10/20 01:05 AM
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Yep. Old habits die hard. He will keep the act for a while, but people rarely change. He has to have that quality already for it to be present. The second he sees you as weak or less than you will go back to where you started. I think it’s more important to focus on character than him “changing” for you. He needs to already be that way anyway. Edit: one word
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 07:48 PM
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I’ve definitely noticed low effort offers translates to low effort relationships. The problem with those men is, they don’t think putting there best foot forward is okay until they feel like you deserve it. In most cases it’s never because they are always holding out for better. Unless they have a come to Jesus moment, chances are you’re relationship isn’t going to evolve and their going to treat you this way forever. They also treat their life this way too. Everything is about impressing them f…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 07:43 PM
2

For real. It’s either we’re stupid and naive for believing men aren’t sick bastards or we’re evil and gold diggers who expect too much. We’ll never win so might as well do what ever we please.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 05:35 PM
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Yeah I think her behavior is very codependent/addict-like. If what he’s saying is true, he most likely breadcrumbs her so when he does do something nice she gets hooked again and continues that toxic cycle. I just don’t see how their dynamic could be healthy if he expects her to have sex with him every time he does anything remotely thoughtful.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 05:21 PM
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How could you possibly take advice from a sub that believes women should cater to men because they are superior to us?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 03:28 PM
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I noticed that too. I think girlfriend isn’t enough to make him come off as a nice guy, but married will make him look like a “simp.”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 03:25 PM
11

You post on redpill women. You should not be here.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 03:21 PM
13

Yep. I even noticed the slight flex of spending $200 on a date. He’s definitely glad he has a woman that’s more than willing to boost his ego. The minute she has any autonomy, he’ll use everything he’s done for her against her. She’s basically not allowed to have her own preferences or needs.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 02:38 PM
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Yeah, I felt like he was trying to get bro points for having a woman faun over him. Him doing nice things for her is also a transaction basically. He expects her to say thanks and have sex with him. All the extra stuff she does just boosts his ego. If anything he’s saying is remotely close to reality, then he’s entitled and he’s taking advantage of his fiancé’s low expectations and naïveté.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 02:32 PM
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True. He thinks her saying thanks and having sex with him is the bare minimum. Sounds like entitlement to me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 02:22 PM
20

Exactly. The moment we switch the flip on them and stop being attractive, they’ll complain and say we need to put effort. I wish all women who went on these low effort dates would just show up with no make up and sweat pants on. They really don’t deserve our best selves when they believe their best selves should only be saved for women who “deserve it.”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 02:01 PM
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If anything, he’s being entitled by expecting her to be grateful for any “nice” gesture he does. She has no autonomy in their situation because she is not allowed to express contempt or annoyance if one of his gestures falls flat. He’s definitely projecting because he’s the entitled one in their scenario.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 01:58 PM
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She one hundred percent is. I’m sure she’s feeling great because she got that ring though right??🤪
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 01:49 PM
9

I’m glad too. Seeing that count rise by the hundreds everyday wards my belly. We all know the world we’re living in is bullshit. I’m glad more and more women are realizing.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 01:46 PM
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Lmaooo. When I used to watch porn, it would take me at least fifteen minutes to find a video that focus on female pleasure for even five minutes. It’s hilarious to think LibFems are really this brainwashed considering the orgasm gap isn’t anywhere near closed. If anything, men are getting worse at sex because they can’t even keep it up.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 01:43 PM
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Yep. They want us to be beggars and praise them for any scraps they give us. Anything less is blasphemy to them. They hate that we have expectations because that means they have to actually work for something. The idea of “being grateful” is definitely an abusive mentality because every kind gesture isn’t created equally. The men obsessed with their SOs being grateful are usually the type of men to get them a kitchen utensil for Christmas. They weaponize these “gestures” because they know a lot …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 01:36 PM
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Of course they wouldn’t want to discuss how normal it’s become for men under the age of 30 to have PED. I think we’re getting to a place soon where men will realize it’s not worth it and the industry will dissipate, but that doesn’t change the fact that they don’t see women as objects. They’ll just displace that desire on real life women. That’s why I’d rather be with a man who is morally against porn.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 01:25 PM
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Oh my gosh, this was really insightful. I didn’t even notice that but rereading it, it’s so true. I couldn’t put my finger on why the way he spoke about his fiancé made me feel icky. He’s literally only doing those things because he wants to, not because it’ll make her happy. Her happiness is just an unnecessary bonus to him. Who wants to bet that he never does things she wants to do and just brings her along to whatever? He’s definitely got narcissistic tendencies because he doesn’t even talk a…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 01:19 PM
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Hit dogs holler. I’m gonna guess that we hurt his feelings because he’s an LVM and he’s mad an FDS woman wouldn’t touch him with a ten foot pole.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 01:11 PM
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Exactly. I’ve seen so many ex-pickmeishas turned FDS women here who were literal sugar mammas before they realized their effort were fruitless. They’re actually delusional because many women are too kind, grateful, and giving. They just think they’re entitled to that behavior from the get go. A dinner isn’t that hard to plan, they’re just mad we’re not sucking their dicks and worshiping them for that bare minimum requirement. 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 01:10 PM
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It’s not love, it’s infatuation which dwindle over time. It’s also an unhealthy dynamic because sex workers can get outed or lose their reputation if one of these men who “love them” disposes them and finds a new toy. Most of these women also are vulnerable too so it’s a breeding ground for a potential abusive relationship.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 12:58 PM
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Also let’s talk about entitlement. I’ve noticed a lot of men gaslight women with high standards by saying that we’re entitled. Are men not entitled? A lot of men think they deserve a beautiful, educated, caring woman to show up on a walk/coffee date looking like a model. They also think they deserve a woman who will have sex whenever they expect it and perform like a porn star, but as soon as a woman has any standard at all, she’s a gold digger who’s out to get men. In their minds, having standa…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 12:55 PM
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When I see that I just see jealousy. You can have both. It’s okay. The bitterness is insane😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/10/20 10:53 PM
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You got that flair because this sub is about empowering women to be better. You wanting to see memes because they’re funny isn’t helping anyone. Going back and forth with an LVM is pointless. Your response to this is telling considering anything beside blocking and deleting is anti-FDS
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/10/20 04:20 PM
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Yes! Also, since discovering FDS, I’ve become the love of my life. It’s crazy how amazing it feels to be in love with yourself. I no longer feel a void and the need seek make validation. Dating myself has been a better experience than any relationship I’ve ever had.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/10/20 02:26 PM
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This. It also puts the onus on you to be perfect for them because you will always want to be “good enough” to change for.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/10/20 05:22 PM
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He refuses to say you’re dating or calls your outings “hanging out” You always hangout at his place or your place instead of in public He’s always busy on the weekends so he only sees you on weekdays He takes more than a month to introduce you to his friends He’s secretive about his phone and is constantly on it or always getting notifications
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/10/20 01:31 AM
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No problem. Glad to help:)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/10/20 05:50 PM
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I think you should stay emotionally checked out the first couple months. There’s no reason to emotionally attach to a man who is essentially a stranger. When I start dating a man, I remind myself that I don’t know him and force myself to stop thinking those thoughts that allow me to romanticize him. It takes time and practice but eventually it’ll be second nature. A lot of that behavior has been conditioned in you by society because we’re taught to let our feeling get the best of us.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/10/20 05:40 PM
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You don’t. As soon as something they do sets off alarm bells, you run. You have to be as ruthless as possible in dating because male depravity is insidious. Giving men a chance after setting off even a yellow flag is bad because your gut always knows even before your mind registers it. I would say not to feel guilty about acting this way because self preservation is one of the most important things we can do for ourselves.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/10/20 04:17 PM
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This sounded like a teenagers idea of a perfect relationship🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/10/20 03:06 PM
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What the hell did I just read? What is wrong with these women? I know the OG feminists are rolling in their graves right now.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/10/20 04:39 AM
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It’s not that it’s bad to be attracted to these men, it’s that women who are afraid of having standards will double down on the idea that going for conventionally attractive men means you’re are vapid and only attract men like that as well. I don’t care if women like “dad bods” but the women who claim to love them tend to be the loudest about women who aren’t attracted to them. It would be okay if she just stated her preference, but she had to pull another type down to put her preferences on a p…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/10/20 04:19 AM
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Um, binge drinking is very bad for you and western cultures should really let it go. Everything else she states sounds boring as hell. I personally don’t want to be with someone who doesn’t have a life and doesn’t take care of themselves so I’ll go with the guy with and please.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/10/20 01:30 AM
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Ugh, once again, men proving that they age like milk. They know younger women don’t want to be with older men. If aging like fine wine was a thing, they would be adding years to their age.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/10/20 01:28 AM
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Oh yeah. For sure. That’s why I said cheap too because cheapness is a mentality that effects all classes. I’m glad that man is an ex though.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/10/20 10:46 PM
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That’s what I was wondering. I think they’re saying we don’t criticize enough? Which isn’t true. If anything FDS is just as critical towards women as men because we believe in accountability. I’m not sure where OP is getting the idea this discussion needs to be made here.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/10/20 10:15 PM
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I personally don’t like African men because they are very misogynistic, but in my specific country’s culture, women are taught to be chased and courted. There is a bride price that men had to pay (either in cattle or money) so having daughters was considered a god send. Women were also educated and ambitious in the way men are as well. I think that with economic disparity, the men have become more LV and have started to adopt the American mentality now that the world has become more globally con…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/10/20 08:09 PM
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No a date isn’t all about communication wtf? That’s what friends do. If you want to date me, it has to be a romantic arrangement. These types of men wonder why their always getting rejected/“friendzoned.” News flash: women think you’re not interested or a romantic prospect if you don’t put in any effort.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/10/20 05:08 PM
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Yes. I don’t necessarily think college is the end all be all, but I do search for ambition in men. As long as he uses his resources to be the best he can be, I’ll be okay with that. There are many trade jobs that make just as much or more than those who have college degrees.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/10/20 04:36 PM
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Exactly. We have to start thinking of partnership as a business. Romanticizing it only benefits men. That’s why I don’t believe in love conquering all. I’ve seen women who let love conquer them and they physically, mentally, and emotionally lost years of their lives to men who wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire. We should always search for men who are our equals because it will benefit us and our children in the long run.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/10/20 04:08 PM
11

Thank you! I’m grateful I had them as my influence because I understand the importance of good character.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/10/20 03:31 PM
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Yes. Ambition is a character trait. People who are ambitious are ambitious about everything they do. Take this from my father who grew up in poor family in a small town in an African country and owned one pair of shoes for years. He ended up making the 99% percentile on his USMEL for residency. My parents are both very ambitious and remind us that we can always be better. I don’t want a man that doesn’t think the same or is a victim of his own circumstances because I think there’s always an oppo…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/10/20 03:23 PM
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Exactly. It’s definitely low self esteem because I already think I’m enough. If there are men who think I’m not, I barely notice them and leave them where they are. You wouldn’t need to “trick” or “convince” someone to love/want to be with you if you thought you were deserving of love to begin with.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/10/20 02:45 PM
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Exactly. Men generally have low self esteem and it’s embarrassing how well playing hard to get works on them. Men are not a challenge because a majority of them throw themselves at unsuspecting women on a daily basis. They even admit they have little to no standards when it comes to who they have sex with.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/10/20 02:40 PM
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It’s because they’ve been told older men are more “mature” all their lives. I tried it and it’s not true. They also have wrinkly skin that’s been riddled by lack of sunscreen use, gross peens, and no social etiquette. Unfortunately, most women have to learn this the hard way because they’re most prone to the “not like other girls” schtick.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/10/20 01:56 PM
33

Yep. If he truly wanted something romantic, sex wouldn’t have been on his mind as a plan b. He was probably going to use the romance angle to get you to sleep with him.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/10/20 01:48 PM
29

No. Never plan the first few dates. You can suggest ideas but he has to do the work of executing them because he needs to show effort.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/10/20 01:45 PM
442

They’re only mad because they’re broke/cheap. The ones who have the funds seem to never be scared of gold diggers or providing but that’s just my personal observation🤷🏾‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/10/20 01:35 PM
197

I love how they worship their dicks so much they think women would waste time manipulating them to get them to commit. New flash: I didn’t “manipulate” men into dating me before FDS and I definitely won’t be doing that now. I’ll just let the LVM walk right out the door now. No need to waste energy on them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/10/20 01:26 PM
4

Man going their own way
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 09:24 PM
5

They’re actually giving him advice and telling him not to get a female lawyer🤦🏾‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 07:29 PM
16

Lmao for real. They’re always complaining about how “the court favors the women” yet when given the chance, they would rather be deadbeat fathers who dodge child support.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 06:47 PM
5

Oof. This woman hasn’t realized her boyfriend hates her and is using her for a place to stay.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 06:34 PM
24

It’s been said a hundred times but men would fuck a chicken sandwich. I’ll gladly keep my standards because these men are for everybody.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 06:17 PM
2

I’m so glad you’re doing better! Onwards and upwards!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 06:15 PM
11

For real. At least for us, it’s a dating sub centered on avoiding men like this so we can date better candidates. It makes sense for us to talk and discuss male centered things. For them, it doesn’t. Why don’t they talk about building houses or car transmissions or something? Even r/femalelevelupstrategy is better at sticking to its core tennants.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 06:14 PM
12

His last point literally shows he’s not fully committed to going his own way. He knows deep down he seeks validation from women, but he hates how they won’t fuck him for existing so instead he’s going to punish them by “going his own way.” It’s true insanity.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 06:11 PM
15

Lmao. I couldn’t imagine being a lawyer drawing up a contract with this man. I don’t think I could hold my laughter in.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 06:09 PM
10

I’m sure he’ll be telling all his buddies about his new client that’s willing to pay him thousands a year, just to avoid a possible rape case or child support.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 06:07 PM
65

“Can’t be falsely accused of rape if you never leave the house” Yes! If they’re so worried, they should just move and live in the mountains or on a remote island. It’s insane how much power they give to women while simultaneously saying we are slaves to our biology.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 06:05 PM
18

Exactly. You would never see this type of stuff on WGTOW.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 06:02 PM
41

Lol true. I didn’t notice that. He clearly knows nothing about law. Also having a lawyer won’t stop him from getting prosecuted either.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 06:00 PM
26

Wow. And he wants to pay for a lawyer with those odds? Assuming he’s not a rapist (doubt it).
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 05:59 PM
20

That lawyer will be laughing their way to the bank. Who is stupid enough to hire a lawyer for things that most likely won’t happen? Even if he does end up marrying and having kids (doubt it) that was his choice. Actions have consequences.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 05:58 PM
11

I mean if you don’t like it, just scroll past. The post tag exists for a reason.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 05:51 PM
12

Lmaoo that’s what they’re most salty about. They know it’s not a height issue. Most women barely stick to their height preferences.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 04:59 PM
14

I saw this on Twitter and I died. Absolutely not. I would never willingly date a short man. All the short men I ever dated were insanely insecure. I’ll stick to the tall glasses of water.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 04:57 PM
73

I’m sure he’s insufferable and barely gets laid. I highly doubt he’s able to lure women in with an attitude like this.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 04:56 PM
45

Yep. I love how in his last point he says he might need to protect himself in case he goes back. Like, if he is going to “go his own way” he would barely be interacting with women in the first place right?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 04:55 PM
207

It actually goes to show just how delusional they are. If they were truly the “logical sex,” they would know statistically, there is a less than 1% chance of getting a false rape accusation. Even if it does happen, those who get accused rarely go to jail anyway. I’m so sick of men who think they are victims of a world they created.🙄 Edit: wrong number
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 04:53 PM
4

These are beautiful ❤️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/10/20 03:53 AM
4

Bruh. This is what you get from being a “chill” woman. He just dodged all accountability because he didn’t even need to spend a dime on her. I can’t. 🤦🏾‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/10/20 06:50 PM
13

She’s so gorgeous. She could have any man. Just goes to show how much of an epidemic pickmeism is.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/10/20 03:20 PM
4

I honestly thought they were married? Ugh, I love Shay Mitchell but girl no.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/10/20 03:20 PM
8

Oh my god I think you know my ex. He would literally only watch movies that were highly rated on IMDB. It irritated me so much because I’m an opinionated person so I like to form my own opinions. I didn’t care if something was badly rated. If I liked it, I liked it. It really comes off as insecurity when people can’t trust their own opinions on subjective things.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/10/20 01:32 PM
17

I also think it’s because men are desperate. They don’t have the ability to choose so they deal with what they have. They also hate being alone so most men settle in their life time. That’s why I see it as a red flag if a man doesn’t take time between relationships. Only HVM are capable of choosing to be single and having preferences, not on looks, but relationship dynamics and personality traits.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/10/20 01:29 PM
16

Yep. All the funniest people I know have been women. I can count on one hand the men I’ve met who are genuinely funny. Most male humor is immature and vapid. I’ve noticed women tend to have humor that’s more complex than pushing down on people who are ostracized/oppressed.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/10/20 12:56 AM
32

That’s why I never want to experience the type “love” these women have. I would rather have peace.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/10/20 12:12 AM
3

I agree on everything. I’ve never had an issue with dating and all the men I’ve ever dated were average at worst. Pre-pandemic, I was getting approached by all races weekly. It’s so weird how there’s this reality they’re trying to push but me and none of my sisters or friends have experienced this. If anything, we have to push men off us(metaphorically). I really hope young black girls don’t see that article and think it’s real life.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 11:34 PM
8

Lmaooo. As a black woman this is a god damn lie. I’ve noticed black women don’t usually have high standards for black men, but when it comes to white men, it takes A LOT of convincing. We tend to think their ugly until proven otherwise.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 11:31 PM
4

Seriously. I’ve always felt that people who are saying that during this time don’t have any other sources of validation. I had to dump a long time male friend because he decided to start dating again since he was too horny. I’ve honestly been fine with my vibrator because the thought of letting a man I barely know touch me makes me want to throw up. Also I won’t have to take the chance of having my orgasm ignored and instructing a man on how to please me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 11:27 PM
4

Most of the stories on this sub have shown it’s the rule and not the exception that men are terrible roommates. I lived with a man once and it was a nightmare. I never want to put myself through that even to save the rent. You have to get really lucky to be able to find a man who doesn’t mooch, does his fair half of the chores, and isn’t a slob. If you think you’ve found someone who isn’t all those things great, but also be weary of being a forever girlfriend if you fall for them. You also never…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 10:57 PM
9

I see where you’re trying to come from but no man is going to be a good roommate unless he’s HV. Most men will suck the life out of you because they are leeches. It’s better off to put yourself in a position where you can be truly independent. If you really need to save money, just get roommates. No need to move in with LVM.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 10:32 PM
2

I’m glad you’re doing better!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 09:34 PM
44

That’s the energy I got too. Seems like pure jealousy and I’m sure he feels great after this whole breakup thing, even if he’s pretending not to be for his friend.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 09:22 PM
39

I love the messages I get from my posts. I read then delete knowing they’ll never get a response from me because I don’t care.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 09:05 PM
20

I love this woman! I hope she doesn’t listen to reddit because this is spot on. Never stay with a man who needs validation from his friends like that. He will embarrass you and make you feel like shit. Now he’s begging for her and the friends are saying she was harsh? But it wasn’t harsh when the friend insulted her in front of everyone? 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 09:03 PM
10

Yeah I don’t think she realizes that if someone needs convincing they shouldn’t be convinced in the first place.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 08:58 PM
6

Yeah she’s about to become a crime documentary if she’s not careful
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 08:57 PM
27

I 100% agree. I automatically delete/block a man if he asks for a low value date because he is showing that he’s not dating for the right reasons automatically. I also want a romantic man and there’s no way in hell a romantic man would suggest that as a first date. I would rather eat a shoe than tell a man how to treat me. There’s too many LVM out here to be telling them how to act and what you expect. Spend that energy on yourself instead.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 08:51 PM
92

The amount of women who let men move into their homes is astounding
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 08:41 PM
7

These are so pretty!😍
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 08:34 PM
18

Yep. It’s only about practicality for them. Never about moving the relationship forward. Might as well just get a roommate at that point.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 05:57 PM
24

For real. Or finding alternative sources for happiness. Maybe it’s just me but I’ve noticed most men live really unfulfilling lives. The fact that they can’t stay alone, truly alone for a long time says a lot. I don’t think they like themselves so they use these “practical” relationships to avoid being alone with their thoughts.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 05:46 PM
40

Yes. I think most women are so stuck on being in relationships that they don’t notice if their partner truly likes them or not. Most men that I’ve noticed are reluctant about their partners and only have them around for convenience. I’ve only met a handful of men who are outwardly in love with their partners.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 05:37 PM
26

Welp there you go ladies. If you think a man wanting to move in with you is a sign of his love for you, you’re sadly mistaken. They know what they’re doing. Don’t fall for it and be as independent as you can be and only take his actions for how he truly feels about you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 05:35 PM
10

For real. His ego is way too big. She legitimately forgot about his ass until he started calling and thought she wasn’t answering because she’s hurt? I love that through out their interaction she barely cared and didn’t let him control the narrative because he wanted her to care so bad.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 01:59 PM
7

Yes that’s what she did
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 12:54 PM
6

I mean she wasn’t. He was the one who had a problem lol. I’m guessing the ending meant she blocked him after the excuses he tried.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 11:47 AM
8

He didn’t cancel. He was just letting her know he was hanging out with his friends and was gonna call her after.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 11:46 AM
14

Yeah. I’m guessing people thought she was being mean or something lol
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 11:44 AM
55

I wish I knew. She deleted the tiktok probably because of backlash😭
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 01:40 AM
117

Yeah, also I don’t want to be with someone that’s not over their ex/past relationship trauma. They can go to therapy. I’m not gonna stick around to get them to become a better partner.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 01:08 AM
133

Oh yeah for sure. I just love the fact that she forgot he existed until he called and he tried to act like he hurt her feelings. Detachment is important because a lot of women care too much about a man they’ve known for less than a month let alone a week.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/20 12:52 AM
1

I would mention it but honestly it seems like incompatibility. It would have to be something he does as a habit for it to come naturally to him. My question is, would you be okay with reminding him how to treat you or do you want that to be apart of his character?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/10/20 02:35 PM
18

I know that boy never asked her on a date. He took his picture, got his ego boosted, and left it at that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/10/20 01:23 PM
13

She should just leave at that point. She’s clearly depressed about the situation but doesn’t want to admit it. Her husband has to be trained to be attentive during sex. Yikes.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/10/20 01:10 PM
6

Yes. Most women don’t accept dates unless they think there’s potential. Men just don’t know how to shut up and not let all the red flags fly so of course those women never want to see them again. Either way it’s fine with me because they’re automatically taking themselves out my dating pool so I won’t have to deal with that shit anyways.😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/10/20 02:34 AM
4

It’s because women no longer rely on them. Instead of catching up to us financially and education wise, they would rather double down and ridicule us for not giving them a chance. The modern woman is too intimidating for them so now they are positioning themselves in the feminine/receive role.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/10/20 10:25 PM
3

Yeah her use of passive voice is troubling. He caused the marriage to end. It didn’t just end on its own.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/10/20 09:41 PM
9

They really don’t want to admit that they’re just not likable people. It would save them so much time and energy rather than trying to fix symptoms of the main problem which is them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/10/20 08:48 PM
55

Seriously. Imagine thinking a $20 dollar meal is gold digging. If she was a gold digger, she needs to reevaluate her goals because there is no gold to dig there ma’am. And for the men who moan about spending money on dates, your finances are rusty and you need to wait until $20 won’t break the bank before worrying about being used for a meal.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/10/20 06:02 PM
24

Lmao seriously. They would have to be devoid of any options to settle for having free meals with these men. Even then, how many homeless/poor women have you seen manipulating men into asking them out for free meals? Me, personally never.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/10/20 05:55 PM
10

This was so badly written and as a writer, I am appalled.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/10/20 05:19 PM
46

Yep. This is why we don’t fix men. They just resent you for it in the end because they hate themselves too much to accept love.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/10/20 05:18 PM
14

Exactly. With their logic, they are attracting or are attracted to LVW. Instead of punishing the rest of us, it just means having a better vetting system. But once again LVM are allergic to accountability.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/10/20 04:52 PM
70

Seriously. It makes no sense to me why a woman who wants a free meal, would turn down an opportunity to another free meal. 🤦🏾‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/10/20 04:47 PM
3

Why is he on tinder if he’s going his own way?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/10/20 04:00 PM
8

Yeah. I’ve noticed “sexual compatibility” for most straight women is a guy lasting longer than five minutes. They also confuse base line attraction for it as well. Just because you think the guy is hot doesn’t mean your sex is great. It’s really delusion at this point honestly.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/20 11:42 PM
52

Exactly. It’s honestly a very childish mentality for people who want to feel “special.” I want the same as you because it shows his character. I don’t need others to be brought down to make myself feel good.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/20 08:22 PM
180

Yeah that’s why I hated when people say things like “I want a man who’s mean but treats me like gold.” Yeah it’ll boost your ego but eventually you’ll be on the receiving end of that meanness.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/20 08:18 PM
6

Definitely the former. A man who doesn’t get happy by making my life easier is not the man for me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/20 05:03 PM
37

Same here. She almost stuck to her guns and left him in the dust but a moment of desperation allowed to get sucked back in and now she’s emotionally attached to him.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/20 04:16 PM
32

Also wanted to add the people in the comments are telling her to pop the question because “might as well”🤦🏾‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/20 03:51 PM
5

Lol. We’re evil because we push for high standards so we don’t get used at best and murdered at worst. Good to know.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/20 12:58 PM
20

Yep. He was super messy after the murders. I honestly thought he was a dumbass because everything seemed straight out of a lifetime movie.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/20 05:27 AM
135

Lol. Seriously. They’re always complaining about women’s standards when there are women willing to go on laundromat dates.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/20 02:09 AM
98

At this point, what’s the point of dating men seriously? They know they bring nothing to the table. I really can’t believe this guy is arguing that he can show up with nothing and still expect a woman to want him. It’s got to be crack.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/20 02:07 AM
71

Lmaooo someone in the mentions brought up FDS and how it’s crazy we expect dinner dates. I’m sorry but reddit men are so sad. So scared of social interaction they can’t even do a simple dinner.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/20 01:00 AM
78

This is what I was thinking. She probably thinks anything with a man is considered a date.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/20 12:27 AM
50

That’s what I was thinking. She definitely didn’t pick up on him rejecting her.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/20 12:22 AM
6

Exactly
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/20 07:36 PM
26

This why I wont date a man that’s ever heard of reddit. It’s the perfect site for this type of degeneracy
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/20 07:05 PM
21

I don’t want to train men at all. It’s either they’re HVM or they’re not. I don’t think a man that’s a HVM would even think a coffee date is acceptable because they would know how to properly court a woman that’s why I block and delete immediately. I don’t want to spend our time dating teaching him how to treat me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/20 06:44 PM
17

I never even heard of it because I’m African so culturally that’s not even a thing. It wasn’t until I saw that shit on Twitter and reddit I realized not everyone is like me. There are so many women who pay 50/50 because it’s the “feminist” thing to do. I never understood it and I never will because every man I’ve been with has been more than happy to pay my share. They also adored me even if they were LVM
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/20 06:36 PM
25

Yes to all these reasons. I personally want a partner that isn’t willing to put themselves and others at risk in order to date. All the men I’ve encountered online when I was still trying it out were willing to meet and telling me about the their “adventures” knowing full well it’s a pandemic outside. I don’t care to vet a man who already thinks it’s okay to meet people at this time. I’m good and I’ll be waiting until there is a vaccine.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/20 04:40 PM
14

Lmaooo
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/20 04:06 PM
77

Yeah, one is way more psychologically traumatizing. Men couldn’t handle being treated the way we are because they are coddled so much through life by everyone.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/20 03:58 PM
37

Yep. That’s why I’m so against women thinking going 50/50 is smart. He’s using you and hoping you won’t see through him. It’s the same thing with coffee dates/walk dates. They don’t care enough to impress you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/20 03:40 PM
153

Lol. It’s so hilarious to see these posts because it proves blocking and deleting is what truly bothers them. Coming to reddit to ask these questions is truly hitting rock bottom but at least they get closer to introspecting.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/20 03:29 PM
124

I’m sick! Kicking under a table?? 🤢 I would’ve asked him why he was kicking me innocently in front of the waiter to embarrass him.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/20 03:27 PM
8

Honestly just dump this dude. I checked your last post and even there you said how much he mentions your looks makes you feel uncomfortable. When I feel uncomfortable with a man I end it right there because it’s my intuition warning me about something that hasn’t been revealed yet. If after 8 dates you’re still asking the same questions it’s time to go back to the drawing board. It’s okay to let men go. Stop giving him a benefit of the doubt because you want to believe he doesn’t have bad intent…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/20 03:21 PM
49

Yeah, it’s truly sad because the way we are socialized means we are not equal at all. Women are socialized to be much better at relationship dynamics than men. Operating from a place where we are equal is not smart because it’s not true. I will start paying 50/50 once men, as a class, are taught from birth to be empathetic, introspective, emotionally intelligent beings. As for now, I’ll stick to being courted properly.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/20 02:29 PM
13

Yes. Pre COVID I would go out to bars with my friend and I actually had three men who were friends fighting to buy me my next drink once. When men want you, they will pay. This idea that he respects you because he’s paying 50/50 is dumb because all the men who’ve ever approached me online or irl have begged to buy me dinner or lunch.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/20 03:50 AM
8

It wasn’t tough at all. Your post was needed because I’ve been seeing too many paragraphs. It’s really simple but I think people don’t want to digest the truth. It’s really hard to get rid of the habit of writing paragraphs because it has to do with validation.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/20 12:14 AM
14

This is the post https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/j3s3kv/thats_how_lvm_treat_women_for_hookups/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 11:57 PM
12

Yeah it’s hard to get from realizing this is not an advice sub but a lifestyle sub. This isn’t the dating/relationship sub where people will just tell you what you want to hear. That’s why I’m partly against recruiting from those subs but oh well. With time, the mods will figure out how to differentiate between the lifestylers and the others.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 10:43 PM
16

I had a LV male friend who would characterize himself as charming frequently. He used PUA tactics and treated dating like a numbers game. He also thought people should be categorized as either weak or strong and he always wanted to be the “strong” one in situations. He was stressful to be around because he was hyper aware of social situations so something that would be brushed off by a regular person he took super seriously. He would end up breaking out in verbal fights with other men to establi…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 10:31 PM
10

Thanks. I’m really trying not go crazy because I’m just trying to help other women see the light but honestly I have to agree. This isn’t something that can be debated because it’s one of the basic principles of FDS, but yeah. I’ll just start reporting at this point. Thanks for the reminder lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 10:21 PM
13

Yes always trying to get below that bar😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 10:19 PM
24

Bruh I can’t believe we got a new one. The alleyway meme has me cryinggg
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 10:17 PM
8

Roast a scrote isn’t screenshots of paragraphs though. It’s memes making fun of scrotes.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 10:03 PM
17

It’s not about the posts being funny. It’s about promoting FDS qualities. The whole point is to uplift other women. The newbies need to learn that sending paragraphs is a no-no and that responding to LVM does nothing. FDS isn’t about funny content, it’s about quality content.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 09:57 PM
14

This is still a relatively new sub that has gotten an influx of new subs. There’s going to be content that doesn’t agree with FDS. This type of content should be pretty obvious if you read the handbook. It’s not something you can disagree with because the mods made a handbook stating that blocking and deleting is always the answer. NEVER send paragraphs. You can go ahead and read the comments because they don’t like that content either. Her post wasn’t wrong and it’s a huge reminder for the newb…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 09:49 PM
35

When you think like this you realize there’s no incentive for men like this to change. They basically have their own personal maid.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 09:46 PM
21

Girl a lot of the mods and disciples are vehemently agreeing with this post. Those posts actually go against FDS rules. You can be a newbie and get a lot of the basics without being a mod.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 09:24 PM
5

We shouldn’t let COVID lower our standards. Just because it’s the norm doesn’t mean we have to deal with it. Walk/coffee dates will always be dates reserved for women they’re less interested.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 07:59 PM
5

I would honestly expect that from a male therapist.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 07:55 PM
36

Seriously. There’s no reason to tell a man you’re too HV for a walk/coffee date and to tell him not to neg or be sexual. Just block and delete ladies. It’s really that simple!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 06:39 PM
13

Yes. It honestly does nothing and I think it kind of encourages other women when one of the main FDS points is blocking and deleting.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 06:38 PM
18

Lol I actually get hives when I see paragraphs. I’m pretty lazy and like to get to the point so I don’t understand the need to send paragraphs.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 06:30 PM
9

Lmaooo. I’ve never met a man who thinks like the right and doesn’t look like a toe.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 06:24 PM
7

I got treated the worst by a guy a had a crush on since junior high. Found out last year he’s a full blown narcissist and a serial cheater. So glad we never dated and I dumped him like a hot potato at the time.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 06:16 PM
19

I feel so sad for her. I really do think women who engage in casual sex usually just have a case of low self esteem. Very few women can truly handle these types of situations because they require you to be as cold and sociopathic as men. I hope she truly does work on herself and gain confidence because it sucks to be treated like that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 06:12 PM
25

Are you talking about the tinder post with the tennis player? I had to hold myself back because I thought it was too much but didn’t want to rain of her parade. Glad she was brave, but it’s better to just unmatch.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 06:08 PM
25

I would rather see those screenshots with a response either in the title or in the comments.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 06:05 PM
94

Yes. I really think they need to realize that these “clapbacks” aren’t as insulting as they seem. They don’t care and will just showcase your messages to their bros to make you look crazy. I would rather delete and unwind with a nice bottle of wine. No need to waste all that energy on a LVM.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 06:05 PM
16

Yes I had to delete a comment on another tinder react because I felt too mean. There’s no reason to respond to men who automatically neg you or get too sexual. When you give them any source of attention, they live off of that. You aren’t showing him or teaching him a lesson. You just look hysterical because he’s a LVM and that’s how they think. I only accept responses like “lol” or “k” because they don’t reveal anything and reduce any sense of care from your side but either way, just block and d…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 06:02 PM
10

Once again, men showing why they shouldn’t be trusted in times of vulnerability and sickness. No wonder the statistics for said situations are so dismal. How can a human being be this dense?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 05:31 PM
2

I just went through it and read a disgusting NSFW post about this dude who barely wanted to go on a date and the girl apparently gave him a hand job and licked his bits off her hand?🤮 He’s probably larping because there’s no way a woman would be that desperate, but who knows.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 05:29 PM
4

I- this is scary. Why would want to be picked by the modern man? They literally take away years from your life.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 04:43 PM
13

He probably meant his gaming habit
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 03:31 PM
63

It’s also super sketchy. He easily could’ve murdered her. Don’t get in cars with men you barely know! I can’t believe this has to be said.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 03:30 PM
19

Ewww this whole story is gross. This girl needs some serious self respect. If I were to have casual relationships with men, they would need to have their own place and still treat me like a queen. I can’t believe she went ahead knowing he still lives with his mom.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 03:29 PM
2

Yes it is. I don’t think it mentioned downplaying anything, just not centering your level up journey on people that you should care less about. Edit: I personally still post my accomplishments on social media, but I don’t care if people who’ve wronged me see them or not. I do it because I’m proud of myself. Unfortunately, a lot of people do it to get back at others so people just need to ask themselves why they’re posting what they do and if the purpose is to get attention from people that shoul…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 12:15 PM
1

It’s both. I find that the hardest part of blocking toxic people is letting go of the validation you seek from them. That’s why people make excuses when it’s time to block. They don’t want to let go of that source of validation yet.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 04:03 AM
10

I actually threw up in my mouth
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 02:23 AM
3

Yes. No problem. Glad I could help!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 02:22 AM
9

I think the first step is accepting that it happened and knowing that it wasn’t your fault. This is a cliche but time truly does heal. You just need to work through everyday and make sure not to keep tabs on said person so you aren’t constantly reminded of them. That’s why it’s so important to block and delete because the less you see of them, the less you you trigger your negative memories and emotions.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 02:21 AM
3

Yeah. Basically people will make a show of their accomplishments on social media in hopes of make people that have wronged them either feel jealous or want them back in their lives.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 02:19 AM
10

Same here. Once I’ve kicked someone out of my life, I make sure to never think of them again because that’s exactly what they would want. It’s not conducive to anything positive plus if they still don’t approve of you after all your leveling up, you’re going to feel so dejected. It’s a waste of energy and honestly people should learn to be more selfish with their lives and accomplishments. I would hope I never see any of my exes/past failed relationships because I only feel contempt for them now…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/10/20 11:53 PM
20

I’m sure you don’t but the most obvious things can go over a lot of peoples heads. It’s pretty normalized in our society for people to “flex on their haters” so most people don’t realize they are still seeking validation.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/10/20 10:43 PM
36

People trying to flex on people who hurt them haven’t actually moved on. That’s why blocking and deleting is important. If you find yourself trying to parade your successes so that past flings can see what they missed, you’re still in a place where you need validation from them. The goal is to not care about them at all. Edit: typo
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/10/20 09:08 PM
89

Reposting because I forgot to block out the Twitter handles.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/10/20 05:50 PM
4

Exactly. If you really want to get under someone’s skin, you would show them you don’t care by not posting anything and deleting them. Men notice when you post things seeking attention. It’s not fooling anyone.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/10/20 05:10 PM
26

Girl what? That’s cheating if he is using tinder while exclusive with her. The insanity of thinking she’s a crazy gf for expecting him not to cheat lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/09/20 07:54 PM
4

She talks about him like he’s a toddler. I was not surprised when she revealed his face😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/09/20 07:02 PM
23

I don’t agree with this at all because it’s like giving alcohol to an alcoholic to quit over time. There’s a reason AA tells people to have a community and go to counseling when trying to get rid of that habit. You wouldn’t go to a bar to deal with it so why do they think it’s okay men like this should indulge in “child” porn to get rid of their tendencies? It’s also definitely about the power dynamic rather than the sexual attraction because there are women who look younger with similar feature…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/09/20 06:24 PM
30

I understand the issues surrounding this problem and I empathize as a brown skinned black women, but when it comes to dating I really don’t think about these things. I don’t know how to explain it, but my self esteem is very high and I hold myself in such a high regard that I barely notice the men who don’t notice me. I’ve personally made a habit of not caring about men who don’t find me attractive. I only pay attention to the men who are putting effort to be recognized as a potential love inter…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/09/20 04:09 PM
31

She’ll also be the landlord’s personal maid service since she’ll most likely take care of 70%+ of the household chores.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/09/20 03:45 PM
10

Ugh. This is why I hate the trend of moving in with men before commitment is established (engagement or marriage). We (women) see it as a sign he is moving the relationship forward and he sees it as a financial plus since he will have someone to foot half the bill. He sees his girlfriend as a money saving token rather than a woman he shares his life with. That’s why if (probably never going to) I were to move in with a boyfriend he would have to be footing the rent. I don’t want to be a man’s fi…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/09/20 03:44 PM
16

All of this! He’s not looking for ways to avoid this situation, he’s just warning other people that what he did caused his girlfriend to leave eventually. If she didn’t leave, he would have never thought his behavior was questionable. Even then, he still doesn’t because he just explains his psyche. Edit: one word
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/09/20 02:36 PM
10

I can believe it because narcissists are pretty charismatic. They have enough social intelligence to know what will come off as remorse. You can tell through his wording he is a narcissist because he centers everything around himself and doesn’t allude to changing his behavior.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/09/20 02:31 PM
105

Yes. OP is a full blown narcissist and if the woman in question ever came back, nothing would change because he knows he wouldn’t have to do much to keep her around. He liked the validation she gave him not her humanity. I reread the post and I cannot find one personality trait he gives her that doesn’t center around him. It’s all about how she helped him and dealt with his shitty behavior. He’s just sad he has to go looking for another victim to deal with his shit.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/09/20 02:20 PM
95

Yep. He centers all of these things around how it made him feel. On the outside it sounds remorseful, but they way he describes his actions makes it seem like she was a chump for dealing with him. Yeah he’s telling men not to be like him, but he’s also excusing his actions subtly by highlighting how she stuck around despite his shitty behavior. His ego is just shattered so he’s coming to reddit to get all the pickmes to tell him that he’s not a lost cause and at least he recognized his behavior.…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/09/20 01:49 PM
258

Yep. This post was not romantic at all. He knew what he was doing and he didn’t see anything wrong with it until she finally left. He’s probably going to use this as an excuse to treat the next woman like shit. Men like this rarely change because contrary to popular belief, they are much more self aware than society leads us to believe.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/09/20 12:59 PM
1

The worst part is him putting 18+ being a 37 year old man. This is made me heave because it comes off as very creepy and man living in his mothers basement vibes.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/20 08:18 PM
3

Season 5 was my favorite season personally but I haven’t watched season 3 yet. I agree on Ovie and Amber. They were both my favorites. I also like watching love island because you get to see what being a pickme gets you in live time. It’s definitely helped me understand FDS principles more because the women with no boundaries and desperate tendencies tend to do the worst and have the worst partners.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/20 08:16 PM
10

You shouldn’t feel bad for cancelling on a stranger, more or less a man who has shown he doesn’t care for your safety.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/20 07:18 PM
11

He’s probably crying from embarrassment😬
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/20 07:06 PM
40

You do you, but I personally think it’s a bad idea to be dating right now. This pandemic isn’t going to last forever and I think it’s more productive to put this time into yourself. I’ve personally gained a lot by avoiding dating during this time and I feel once everything is over I’ll be more prepared and ruthless in dating because I know myself much better.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/20 05:22 PM
37

My statement is solely based on our ability to vet properly right now. It is very hard to vet a man, when it’s unsafe to be around strangers. Showing effort through technological means is relatively easy and takes less effort than doing so in person. You can easily be lead on around this time because you can miss things that can be picked up on in person like living situations, grooming habits, generosity, and more. I just think it’s a waste of time to bother because it’s very easy to be catfish…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/20 05:17 PM
11

Wait she proposed??
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/20 05:03 PM
26

Lol. She just flattered him. They’re most likely not going to get past texting and if they do he’ll ask her on a low effort “date”/hookup and slow fade her. Men rarely reject women even if they don’t find them attractive. They’ll use you first and then leave you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/20 05:02 PM
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Also please, please, please remember no potential HVM would be considering dating seriously during a pandemic. Unless you are one of the lucky citizens of a country with few cases, there’s absolutely no point in dating right now. Use this time to level up and gain confidence in your single hood. Pick up some new hobbies or learn something new. Either way, the chances of finding a potential dating partner are slim to none.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/20 04:57 PM
35

Yep. Learned in the past not to argue because they’ll say they’ll take you there and then when the date is near, he’ll make up an excuse to either do something cheap or invite you to his place. Happened to me twice. Now I only accept date, time, and place questions and answers.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/20 12:34 PM
58

That’s the first thing I thought. He can’t even pretend to be okay with her suggestions lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/20 12:30 PM
14

I actually thought I had anxiety and depression because of how bad of a relationship I had with one of my exes. I was prepared to get professional help after breaking up but in the first month we were broken up, 90% of my symptoms were gone. Two years later, I’m extremely happy, single, and stress free. It’s crazy how much relationships with men can change your reality.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/20 02:34 AM
10

Exactly. They know women don’t want to have sex because most of them can’t make us orgasm anyway. At least with a relationship we expect intimacy and commitment. If they truly wanted to just have sex, they could hire a sex worker or find someone compatible with their needs but that would mean seeing women as humans that don’t need to be broken down and used. They get a thrill from getting a woman who wants a relationship to settle for a situationship because it makes them feel special. It also g…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/20 01:51 AM
1

Men’s intentions is especially what makes this messaging bad. She advocating for women to give men the benefit of the doubt and give “love” to every man you date. This is a sure fire way for him to gain your love through fear based tactics which a majority of men use. You might not be using fear based tactics, but best believe the man you are talking to is waiting until thirty minutes have passed to message you back. He’s also leaving you on read because men have been circulating this type of ad…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/20 01:47 AM
1

Yes. My main mantra is be hard to get. I don’t play games, but I’ve learned to make sure any man that tries to get my attention has to work for it because I have other things going for me. Playing hard to get never works because you are pretending to be someone you aren’t.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/20 01:36 AM
6

I understand where you’re coming from, but the problem with this advice and why it doesn’t fit with FDS is because to be an FDS woman, you won’t be available and answer quickly because you have to become a hard to get woman. FDS doesn’t advocate playing games but it also doesn’t advocate giving your true self early. It’s about being guarded and only saving that energy for men you’ve vetted. She thinks anything but being vulnerable and going with your impulses is playing games. We aren’t saying p…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/20 01:31 AM
2

Yes to all of this. She is really setting up younger women with this advice because they will have to learn the hard way unfortunately.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/20 01:26 AM
26

Men who make six figures also wouldn’t care about spending $30 on a lunch date. That’s chump money to them unless they’re extremely stingy.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 10:35 PM
16

But yet they’ll protest when you ask for a video or phone call🤔
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 10:34 PM
22

That’s what I thought reading this. Men not being entitled to our bodies is seen as extreme. Imagine all the scrotes and libfems saying this post is proof that we are femcels😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 10:27 PM
19

Everything, to these types of men, is transactional. It’s never about treating someone your interested in or showing them a good time. I swear if I was a man, my dating game would be on point.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 10:07 PM
10

Self deprecating humor isn’t that great to an extent. You want to be with someone who is confident. If they think people need to lower their standards to be with them, it means they have low self esteem already. I love self deprecating humor, but I would never imply that I’m lower than someone. I would just use it to highlight the flaws that make me human.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 09:25 PM
13

I’ve learned men who make self deprecating jokes like this most likely know they’re LV. It’s a “funny” way of letting you know not to expect too much of him.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 09:08 PM
25

For real. When it’s said out loud, their behavior sounds insane. I wish more women started robbing them, so they would be forced to learn how to vet properly. It’s crazy how little they fear for their possessions or lives. I’m also not advocating for women to rob men, I just think it’s crazy how privileged men are.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 08:55 PM
6

Lmao probably a fast food restaurant. I wouldn’t be surprised if men are trying to make that a thing now.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 08:52 PM
1

Yes. This thought process is only nice when relationships are reciprocal to begin. Women encounter way more dangers then men in dating so to tell women to be vulnerable and let a man set the tone is irresponsible. She definitely has a chip on her shoulder.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 08:51 PM
19

I’m sure, out of desperation and lack of interaction, women have reluctantly gone back.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 08:14 PM
6

Why should she fulfill him to begin with? We could talk about all the women who’ve “fulfilled” their role and still got cheated on. At least Cardi has the means to leave and take care of her child. Women shoot themselves in the foot when they center their lives around men because you have no exit strategy. You always need to have a backup plan especially when you have kids. No amount of house work and domesticity is going to stop a man from stepping out on you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 07:25 PM
36

I’ve been following since I was in high school. She’s the reason why I take no shit in dating.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 04:18 PM
130

Yep. That’s how you know it’s not about dating for most LVM. It’s about getting laid and that why they hate FDS so much. A HVM, like your husband, knows quality over quantity. There’s no reason to be going on 4+ dates a week with strangers, but these men don’t wanna hear that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 04:05 PM
34

Lmao. They really know how to make a woman feel shitty. I know we would all love to have a second date with a man like that. /s
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 03:56 PM
5

It’s time to block and delete. This post was a field of red flags. Just take this as a learning lesson not to move too quick with a man. Edit: also don’t care too much for his feelings. He wasn’t considering your feelings when he left you hanging for five days. If you tell him how you feel, you’re only going to boost his ego. He’s not going to think he’s a terrible person. Let him introspect by wondering why you ghosted him.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 12:38 PM
6

Yeah totally agreed
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 12:01 PM
12

Exactly. They don’t get this kind of advice so this is just creating more disparity in the dating world for women. They will use this against you and make you chase them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 12:00 PM
6

No problem. That’s why I said it’s well intentioned. It’s a veiled way to excuse desperate behavior because you think it’s coming from a place of “love.”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 11:58 AM
17

Lol I love how she assumes women that are hard to get are playing games anyway. I’m very busy and it’s hard to keep my attention but I like it like that because I only accept men who are willing to put effort.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 03:35 AM
27

Exactly. All the women in the comments were praising her saying she gets it, but they’re the same women who get played over and over. Being naive and seeing the best in men is a losing game. No matter what, they will keep showing you why being “open” and “honest” is never the move.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/20 02:35 AM
37

Yes. They will most likely be stingy as well. Stinginess is a form of insecurity because that person believes things can easily be taken away. If a man feels this way about money, he’ll be stingy with his emotions and time as well.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/09/20 07:43 PM
17

I’m sorry but drawing and then getting a ring from the thrift shop?? I’m dead. The bar is in the earth’s core at this point.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/09/20 06:54 PM
53

Yeah he’s the captain of the Titanic🤦🏾‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/09/20 02:38 PM
4

Yeah this seems like fishing for attention. She knows women will come to demean her in droves and the men will tell her how good of a woman she is. It’s just for retweets and attention.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/09/20 01:45 PM
8

I hate the idea that it’s okay to accept a shitty ring because the guy can’t afford it. This might be controversial, but maybe you shouldn’t be marrying a guy who can’t afford an engagement ring? Like if you can’t save enough to get a ring for THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE, then you’re not ready to get married period.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/09/20 01:42 PM
8

This is so sad honestly. The amount of self esteem this girl has is nonexistent. It’s crazy that there are women that exist that think like this. $20 for an engagement ring? Because you’re afraid no one will ever love you? I hope she gets therapy.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/09/20 01:39 PM
14

Yeah that’s why their always telling women to approach them. It takes away any energy they need to expend in dating. That’s why women shouldn’t listen to dating advice from men. Its all self serving.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/09/20 02:09 AM
13

He immediately tried to retract when she said that. He knew what he was doing and she caught on. Now he wants to act like she’s crazy for calling him out.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/09/20 02:30 PM
13

I think that’s a sad way to live. I want my home to be beautiful because I’m in it everyday. I have to live in it everyday. Why only clean and do upkeep when someone is around. This also how most men take care of themselves. Only when others are involved.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/09/20 12:57 PM
5

Okay this is 100% my kink
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/09/20 12:38 PM
67

Yep. To men, boyfriend is temporary. Don’t ever let a man let you think he’s capable of fully committing in that position. Husband has legal implications so he can’t just up and leave you. If he sees you as his wife, he takes you seriously. Even if he is a LVM, he won’t make the decision to leave so easily. Edit: wording
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/09/20 12:34 PM
36

I honestly don’t know. They would do anything to dismiss black women. It’s literally insane. I can’t even be on Twitter right now. The pickmes and black men are being so vile. I feel for Meg.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/20 11:25 PM
45

Tory Lanez (R&B artist) shot Megan Thee Stallion in both her feet and didn’t admit it until the police report came out. Instead of apologizing or trying to recompense he stayed silent casting doubt on Meg. Now people are saying that she must have been exaggerating or lying and he decided to use this publicity to promote his album.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/20 11:00 PM
3

I love how he thinks you’re afraid he’ll find another woman. He’ll be her problem then. Pornsick men only ruin lives. You aren’t missing anything by leaving him.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/20 08:21 PM
12

Intimacy to me is men paying my bills. It’s just basic biology. /s
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/20 08:16 PM
2

And yet the men of reddit say our views and dating strategies are extreme. The evidence is right there!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/20 06:04 PM
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I’m so sick of the Tory Lanez situation. So many black people tried to wait for his side and didn’t listen to Megan. At this point I will not be putting my energy into uplifting black men until they start uplifting us.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/20 05:24 PM
99

For real. I think most men created the lie that they were drowning in attention to get women to fall for the scarcity mindset. I’ve had guy friends all my life. Very few men can even rotate 3 women at the same time. The ones that do have model looks or dress really well and are charismatic. Ladies. Don’t fall for the idea that you need to impress him and show up his other options. He doesn’t have many to begin with.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/20 05:17 PM
2

Moose are huge. I don’t know why he’s thinks he can tackle one. They can literally flip a car. This dude is delusional.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/20 05:05 PM
2

I literally can’t comprehend what he just typed. What is he saying??
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/20 05:02 PM
6

I made my age fake because I was a preteen and I wasn’t allowed on Facebook at the time lol. It was listing me as way older than I was. That’s the only excuse but if it’s a grown ass adult that’s a red flag.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/20 04:38 PM
6

Lying about something as easy as age means they can easily lie about much bigger things. People need to realize that lies are like snowballs which can eventually turn into avalanches. 🤦🏾‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/20 04:29 PM
8

I actually figured out how to change that because I hated the age it set. It’s just a simple google search. They know what they’re doing.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/20 04:27 PM
2

Seriously. It reminds me how women expect men to cheat on them and how society tells women to forgive. Never in my life have I ever thought of excusing bad behavior because “at least he’s loyal.” The whole point of monogamy and exclusivity is being loyal.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/20 02:36 AM
3

Yes because people don’t exist as absolutes. Every behavior is a spectrum. To think you are absolutely kind, loyal, or compassionate is to think you’re a god that’s not capable of making mistakes.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/20 02:34 AM
8

This girl has so much internalized misogyny. Notice how she trusts male feminists but can’t call herself a feminist because it means we are superior to men? She needs to check her hatred for women because sexism didn’t just come out of nowhere. It’s an age old institution that has nothing to do with “choices.”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/20 02:22 AM
21

Yeah. The anime’s with the exaggerated female bodies and obvious objectification are not for me. Learning that those companies purposefully do that was disheartening but it made a lot of sense. No wonder Japan is a cesspool of LVM.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/09/20 10:32 PM
42

Yes that and anime. I love other cultures when watching television but with men it’s like they start fetishizing and make it their entire personality. I really can’t do men who are uber fans of either.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/09/20 09:55 PM
3

I think you should go with your gut on this. You feeling disappointed is more important than the details of the situation. He did listen to your concerns but his gift was not romantic at all. I really hope he is planning on getting you another anniversary gift. I also think, from the financial details you gave, he is not ready for marriage. Are you okay with him having to have so many side jobs/gigs to get you an engagement ring? He is also not a planner so just know in the future you’ll have to…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/09/20 09:24 PM
5

This is a terrible idea because women have no standards concerning men across the board. If you ask the average woman what they expect in a man looks wise they’ll say they prefer “personality.” We’ve been conditioned to accept men as they are. Men are the complete opposite. They judge women solely based on looks on a daily basis. They also hate beautiful women because they think they got the lottery ticket of life so admitting that a woman is beautiful is giving her ammo. Overall, there’s too ma…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/09/20 05:06 PM
21

Lmao like women don’t buy those for themselves all the time. She can buy her man all those PS5s no one’s stopping. Deep down she knows it’s clown behavior which is why she has to say these things for male validation on the internet.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/09/20 01:52 AM
74

They will also cheat to get an upper hand and humble the woman. Very few men get validation from themselves so they will need to put you down if you’re doing better than them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 11:00 PM
31

Lol I know he’s gonna be pissed at her because now he can’t find anything since she touched his stuff.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 10:52 PM
139

Oop this is a good point. I think she knows her man won’t appreciate all this, so she goes looking to social media for validation. Cue all the comments telling her he needs to marry her ASAP. 🤡
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 10:51 PM
3

Yes. I think the connotation of work is what throws me off. I don’t like the idea that living with a partner is some kind of burden. Even with friends, you should be mainly happy and be happy to make each other happy. Conflict is allowed, but that conflict can easily be resolved when two people are compatible and love each other. It should not be hard to live with someone you love. I’m glad you found a husband that reciprocates and is easy to be with. My favorite saying is true love is easy. It …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 10:41 PM
9

Absolutely. At 42 he should know what he wants. He’s definitely wasting time with you and holding out for something better. Leave him where he is.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 05:20 PM
17

Omg thank you so much. That was an enlightening experience 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 04:20 PM
2

Him: I’m not cheap Also him: I’m also going to mention the price difference because I know I can’t afford a sushi date.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 04:01 PM
153

I will pray for them every night because no human being deserves that😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 03:54 PM
18

Dang I missed it. Was it from a dude or something?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 03:53 PM
24

Saying all that just to get some mediocre dick and an unwashed ass
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 03:37 PM
2

Thank you:)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 03:11 PM
6

I understand what you’re saying, but I think boundary setting is something that individuals need to learn for themselves, not just in relationships. My parents still had to boundary set here and there, but my main point is that the idea of work shouldn’t be to work for the relationship but to work to make each other better people. I think if a relationship is fundamentally compatible than the relationship itself won’t need much work. My parents have complimentary communication styles and agree o…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 03:09 PM
1

It means he’s usually a terrible person lol
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 02:22 PM
5

Yep it’s the same as letting you meet the family early on, or letting you keep your stuff at his place. They know what signifies a relationship so once you feel you’re his girlfriend, he won’t need to label it or put in effort because he’s won.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 02:17 PM
2

Lmaoooo. I would only ever let a man grocery shop with me if he promised to pay. I would much rather do that with my friends because I love being around them and they would actually make grocery shopping into an adventure. I’m sick and tired of people calling everything they do with men “dates.” Please, please, please let’s make the standards for dates more strict because not everything is meant to be romantic.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 02:14 PM
4

I’m sure she’s had her share of situationships
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 01:51 PM
9

I love getting called high maintenance. It means I’m doing something right in my eyes. Expensive and luxurious things are high maintenance and I see myself as both these things😌
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 01:50 PM
8

Lol. Some of the comments were saying he has to be really good looking to even get 65% initiating because most of them can’t take the risk. Men know they’re ugly😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 01:43 PM
13

The last time I used tinder I had more than 300+ matches and that was me being picky. Unless he is Jason momoa I’ll probably forget we matched in five minutes.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 01:42 PM
4

I saw that post and died. Like most men are UGLY. Could you imagine putting effort into talking to a man that is ugly? I can also count on one hand the men I’ve met with good conversational skills and I’ve been on this earth for 22 years. It’s really not that hard to answer questions, elaborate, then reciprocate. Ask me why I can have tons of interesting conversations on bumble BFF but suddenly the OLD scene is struggling.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 01:38 PM
20

Honestly. Feminist porn should have a guy eating out the actor for 15+ minutes and POV shots from the woman, not the man. To this day, I’ve never seen such a thing, but we’re supposed to believe the industry is changing. God. Anything that doesn’t center men is seen as blasphemy. These porn feminists can call me when they actually start making porn that is made for the female gaze.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 01:22 PM
17

This was one of the things I hated most about porn. I remember when I was still trying to convince myself I liked it, I would complain to my porn addicted ex that all the men were ugly. I would spend at least 20 minutes looking for videos with men with chiseled abs and nice faces. It made him uncomfortable hearing that because most men are used to women pretending to have no preferences. Luckily I no longer care for that industry and am glad I left him because as predicted, we ended up in a dead…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 01:14 PM
20

It’s also an excuse for men to be unashamedly ugly. I love looking at beautiful men because I love the male body. To think I should just deal with subpar looking men because women just look better? Tuh. No honey you have to groom, work out, and be healthy like the rest of us. They’re so lazy to try to attract us, but I think it’s honestly because too many women have no standards. I really want straight women to ask for more.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 01:09 PM
19

I love how he sees nothing wrong with the train comment because it’s “sacarstic,” but it’s sooo vile of us to never want to have men who think like that? At least the men we hate will never get the chance to be around us for too long because we refuse to lower our standards for them, but they actively go for women they hate. There’s a huge difference between what was in that thread and r/steroids. I really can’t believe men can be this stupid.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 12:33 PM
97

Yep they hated being called ugly fat feminists so they based an entire wave on trying to counter that. I hate seeing posts that say “not all feminists are ugly.” Like who cares? Why do you want misogynistic men to find you attractive anyway? I would prefer they leave me alone. Also every self proclaimed male feminist I’ve met is a POS. The most feminist man I know is my father and he’s never called himself a feminist or virtue signaled. Real male “feminists” display this through actions, not wor…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 12:27 PM
69

I’ve always hated this ideology. I grew up with parents who were basically best friends/lovers and even though they argued sometimes, they would never say it was “work” to be together. They actually enjoy each other’s company and are very compatible so they don’t fight about small things often since they generally agree already. They also love spending time together and pleasing each other. Because of that, I don’t do relationships that make me feel like I need to put in work. It’s not going to …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 12:23 PM
15

That’s hilarious because hookers aren’t cheap. Also it proves our point. The men who want sex aren’t going to put effort so I will gladly never go on a coffee/drinks date.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/20 11:56 AM
6

Yep self improvement isn’t an option for them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 10:29 PM
8

Ewww Burger King?🤮 That’s so disgusting I literally can’t. That’s so disrespectful.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 09:58 PM
7

Lmao. They really think there’re women vying to get a free meal with them when most of them haven’t even gotten a chance of being seen out with a woman more than once a month. They truly live in a fantasy world. I guess pretending to be so high in demand they can only afford coffee dates helps keep up this delusion.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 08:48 PM
9

Yep those women aren’t even getting anything out of these “free meals” anyway. It’s honestly the biggest waste of time and such a weird thing to brag about when the majority of men aren’t even worth the company.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 08:46 PM
17

Yep. Desperation is unattractive in general. That man knows he’s not much of a prize if his standards are so low he has to take the chance at any woman he can get. That’s why they’re so stingy too. No one wants them so they have to keep shooting shitty shots until they find something that sticks. Once they do though, he’ll resent that girl because he didn’t want her to begin with, he just wanted the validation of getting a woman to sleep with him.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 08:28 PM
28

It’s really not. Most lurkers will have an aneurism from this but my dad’s a doctor and when I see him he takes my family to expensive restaurants and doesn’t even flinch taking the bill. I don’t expect to go to Michelin star restaurants, but if it hurts you to pay for an affordable dinner I’m honestly good. No need to argue with men like that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 07:58 PM
3

I literally dated a guy who wore flip flops and thought there was nothing wrong with it. This is literally how we looked (from top to bottom) on our valentines date and I swore never to date a man who thought wearing something like this on a romantic date is acceptable. The anxiety and disappointment I had in that relationship was insane.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 07:33 PM
14

It’s really as simple as that. You’re father seems like a good man. I can say the same for myself. I spend money on my clothes, skincare, and schooling because I care about all of those things. I also spend money on friends when we go out together. You won’t see me splitting the bill on drinks or dinner because they owe me. I like seeing the smile on their face and hearing “thank you” when they realize I just paid for both our drinks/meals. I do it happily because I love them. They do the same f…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 06:41 PM
19

Lol I saw that one and someone commented “what if you miss the chance of being with your soulmate because he split the bill?!?!?!” Sir, the universe truly hates me if my soulmate can’t even muster the courage to impress me on a date he asked ME on. 🙃
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 06:23 PM
15

Exactly. We live in a capitalistic world. We show value by what we spend money on. For some men that’s video games and for others it’s on the people they love. If a man is afraid to spend money on you, it’s because he literally thinks you’re not worth it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 06:21 PM
41

Yep, their fear of being used would lower drastically if they only went after women they actually wanted relationships with.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 06:16 PM
4

Yes I love your limbo analogy. Anything to avoid reaching the bar for these men.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 05:58 PM
18

Bruh I’m still astounded at the idea of him being hurt by paying $80 for a date like yeah if you were only going after women you truly wanted it wouldn’t be that much of a payout. But we all know dating for men is a numbers game. Their not looking for connection, they’re looking for pussy. There’s no reason for men to be going on 5+ dates a week. They need to be more picky instead of blaming us for their shitty dating habits.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 05:56 PM
14

He knows being cheap is a turnoff and a bad trait, but he’s also trying to prove why it’s okay with his male logic. It really is astounding.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 05:23 PM
9

Lmaoooo their so scared of us it’s funny. We’re sooo toxic because we force women to have standards and hold themselves accountable. Also most men are degenerate but remember to keep holding hope for the very few who aren’t and keep wasting your time and energy until you get lucky and finally get the man of your dreams.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 05:18 PM
22

They hate the video chat option though because they can’t push you to have sex. It also means they only have their charm and charisma to carry them. Honestly, any woman who uses men as a meal ticket is dumb as hell. She could have more success spending that time looking for a sugar daddy or getting a job if she can’t afford to eat. I would rather shoot myself than go on a date with a man for a free meal.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 05:09 PM
36

We actually spend more than that “free meal” just to get ready🤦🏾‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 05:06 PM
24

Lmao yes to unionizing. We hold the power ladies!😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 05:05 PM
24

One has actual physical implications while the other is monetary. Also women aren’t just afraid of being used for sex, they’re afraid of getting raped, murdered, assaulted, etc. Men thinking this is anywhere near being “used” is dumb and I refuse to listen to that argument.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 04:54 PM
23

Also I’ve never met a woman who actively uses men to get free food through a meal date. It’s much easier to just trick men into sending you money. These men are delusional.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 04:51 PM
36

It’s literally costs $80 to get a good set of nails and much much more for a quality hair appointment. At this point these men need to just say they’re cheap and go. It’s okay to be broke, just stop with all these excuses and trying to convince high maintenance women they deserve their time of day.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 04:33 PM
38

Seriously. I think they fail to realize that to get the modern woman requires much more effort because we can usually afford our lifestyle. They have to add something of value for them to even be on our radar. It’s insane they think they can double down and be more stingy, but still get results.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 04:20 PM
28

Lmaoooo. This is truly the reality for most women. Imagine paying to have sex with a porn addict. Couldn’t be me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 04:16 PM
35

Yes! One of the characteristics I’m looking for is a romantic. If a man is not naturally a romantic and doesn’t want to treat me like a lady, he can go ahead and find a woman who is fine with that. I want it to be a part of his psyche, not to train him to be what I want. I also know this is not asking for too much because I had two exes (who were still LVM) that were very romantic and got me gifts and planned out romantic dates often. They’ve always wanted a woman in their lives to pamper. They …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 04:15 PM
43

This is why the women who argue they don’t want to owe men anything don’t know what they’re talking about. He’s still going to have the audacity even after you pay your part. Most men want sex so you’re just giving more access by not letting his pockets hurt. If anything, women are incentivizing this behavior because they lose absolutely nothing for being cheap and low effort.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 04:09 PM
50

Exactly. They don’t fear being “used.” They fear not getting laid. I don’t care how they try to put it, most men are serial daters that aren’t looking for a serious connection. If they were, they would know just like anything else in life, you have to invest and put time and effort to find results. Offering the “woman of your dreams” a coffee date and being surprised by her rejection just means you’re not bright and you need to learn social etiquette.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 04:06 PM
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Also wanted to add the importance of not negotiating with men. His last paragraph shows that even if you do get a man to take you out to dinner, he’ll still ask you to split the bill. He doesn’t realize it’s not about being used it’s about showing that you’re not stingy through your actions. Only stingy men would care if a date ghosted them after an $80 meal. And if this happens often, figure out what’s wrong with you first. Also what are your finances looking like if that hurts the bank to begi…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 03:37 PM
7

I actually hate the idea of unconditional love because it seems so insane to me. You shouldn’t be forced to keep loving someone because you decided you are going love them unconditionally. People change and not always for the better.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 12:54 PM
5

It’s lack of self awareness and entitlement. They’re also fed this message by society their whole lives. It’s kind of starting to change now because of the obsession with fit bodies in media, but women’s standards haven’t raised to force these men to upgrade because there’s more than enough pickmes in the world.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 12:53 PM
31

Yep. The men who do 50/50 with girls so obviously hate their girlfriends. They always have that dead look in their eyes. It also means he’s not afraid to feel societal embarrassment by not doing the “manly” thing by paying. He doesn’t care about his partner and I wish more women realized that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 12:41 PM
68

This is important because I’ve noticed a lot of women like to project on men. We really have to remember that men do not think like us. We’re socialized completely differently. Very few men see the world like women do so don’t believe that he has good intentions. They also think being super open, honest, paying for dates, approaching men and being low maintenance equals desperation. Think of all the hot girl tropes in media. They equate “hot girls” with high maintenance, hard to get, and expensi…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 12:18 PM
19

Exactly. It’s ignoring the main problem which is male entitlement. Paying for your dates is just you paying for his entitlement. He’s not suddenly going to see you as a human being because you didn’t give him something to owe you for. Also why date thinking you owe every man who does something kind or generous to you? Sounds exhausting to me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 01:16 AM
15

I hate this so much. A man paying doesn’t mean you’re not independent. It just means you’re giving him the chance to show his generosity. Her mom is setting her up to be with stingy men. She’s also making her put herself in the pursuer position. Bad parenting at it’s finest🤦🏾‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/20 01:10 AM
110

Fell for this my preFDS days. He even admitted that he was doing things to get me to like him more. Imagine the surprise I got when he stopped putting in effort. 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/09/20 02:03 PM
12

This person is straight up lying. Not even gay men feel this way about anal.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/09/20 01:42 AM
9

Yeah I think it’s cool to say you’re a feminist, but from reading feminist books from the past, I’m sure a lot of them would hate us. We went from fighting for the right to own property and get a divorce to arguing if BDSM is empowering. That’s why I refuse to call myself a feminist most times because it’s so surface level. I want to but the connotation for that word is so ugh to me now. I think a lot of women are scared of realizing that to be truly feminist is to not give a shit about men. So …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/09/20 01:23 AM
20

I personally don’t and I don’t know women who do outside of an academic context.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/09/20 01:11 AM
13

Yeah I think that’s where western feminism fails. Imagine women in other countries reading this while they barely have the right to get an education. I understand the basis, but I think real feminism and empowerment divesting from men, since they are our oppressors. A lot of women fail to realize that the choices you make don’t matter as much as having the ability to make those choices. If those choices also involve making yourself more appealing to men than there’s nothing empowering about it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/09/20 01:03 AM
69

The way she described it felt so gross and pervy. Like a dude writing a bad fan fiction. I just refuse to believe this is a real woman.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/09/20 12:39 AM
15

Yeah. Quality time is quality time but there’s a clear difference between romantic dates and living with someone. Are we going to start calling everything we do with a partner dates now?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/09/20 12:31 AM
25

I think based off these comments I’m pretty high maintenance because I wouldn’t even call this a date even if we’ve been together for years. Dates will always mean something above casual for me. Don’t get me wrong, I love staying in and eating pizza, but I wouldn’t be ecstatic to do this with my partner or think it’s that romantic.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/09/20 11:31 PM
18

I was going to say this. I appreciate real dates a lot because it’s something exciting. Nothing wrong with doing the above picture, but calling it a date is bizarre to me. My parents do this every other day. It’s really nothing special or out of the way.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/09/20 11:27 PM
11

Lol five minutes into the movie he’ll already be side eyeing you and moving his hand down your shirt. 🤮
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/09/20 11:26 PM
24

It’s also because we want to rush into things. It’s taking short cuts. You can tell yourself, “we’re already acting like a long term couple so he obviously likes me” and men know this. They know we’ll think that fake comfortability is enough to make him commit, but they just want you to let your guard down so you can become their sex doll/therapist.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/09/20 11:24 PM
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Yeah. A lot of women are also primed for love bombing because of media. There’s this idea that men only exist on two extremes: distant or obsessed. We aren’t shown healthy love often and if we are, it’s coded as boring or uninspiring.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/09/20 11:16 PM
18

7 months and things aren’t official?? Got to be crack because after a month I’ve already moved on to another man.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/09/20 10:52 PM
28

Also, no self respecting woman is going to fall in love with a man after a low effort date. The bare minimum is a romantic dinner at a restaurant. It’s really not that complicated.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/09/20 10:50 PM
21

For real though. Most men are emotionally weaker. All that coddling doesn’t help them much. The smallest inconvenience is enough to go into a depression, while women hold whole households together with no outside support.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/09/20 10:03 PM
2

I hated those videos. They were either really performative and staged beforehand or the guy was plain rude. Either way, I’m not dating a man who plays video games more than once a week again. I’ve noticed that hobby tends to attract a certain kind of guy that I don’t want.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/09/20 04:45 PM
19

I love it!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/09/20 03:38 AM
2

I’m glad FDS is working for you!❤️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 09:38 PM
62

They’ve gotten so used to women bending over backwards for them that it doesn’t even register how embarrassing their behavior is.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 09:36 PM
12

Great minds think alike😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 09:35 PM
89

Ugh that sucks. So glad he’s an ex.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 09:12 PM
3

I agree. It’s so important to read the handbook. Hopefully it doesn’t get worse as FDS grows.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 08:33 PM
16

I’ve actually been seeing a lot of pushback to this. He’s clearly not paying attention. There’ve been multiple posts saying that getting an HVM doesn’t mean you stop vetting. If anything the mods have been doing a good job keeping the pickmes at bay lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 06:40 PM
19

Lmaoooo onion ring. I’m actually dyinggg. Thank you🤣
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 06:37 PM
18

Mine was overly needy guys who “couldn’t live without me” and give me space to breathe. Bonus points for mommy issues (all of them had them) and an obsession with women’s bodies and how they solely exist for their pleasure.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 06:30 PM
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They actually do it! Even after they get something subpar for Valentine’s Day, their anniversary or birthday. I’ve seen women online brag about buying their boyfriends these thing saying that they’re better than the other girls.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 06:24 PM
21

I loveee deep voices. Should’ve added that to my list lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 05:57 PM
6

I prefer tall men. Like 6’0+. I’m 4’11 but I love the feeling of being with a man much taller than me. I also prefer dark features so I don’t have a race preference (I’m black) but I like darker/tanner skin, dark hair, and dark eyes. I’m also very fit because I work out 4-5 times a week so I also prefer a more fit body type. Legs are also very important to me. Chicken legs are a huge turnoff to me. I don’t care too much about arms, but I really like strong looking legs. I also love well kept bea…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 05:50 PM
22

I don’t think the relationship is as open as he says it is.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 05:30 PM
8

I’m glad to say I’ve never dated a man (long term) who doesn’t wash his ass. I feel like you could smell that?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 05:30 PM
201

“You wanted equality right??”😊
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 05:28 PM
17

I would do this just to see if he’s an adult. Men who can’t answer questions properly don’t deserve my time or attention.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 05:24 PM
91

Brad looks terrible here. Goes to show that it’s the men who truly hit the wall.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 05:22 PM
36

This was honestly the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. Well done to this man! He should get all the awards👏🏾
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 05:21 PM
4

Ugh I hate how LVM think that we’ll hate each other. I think it says a lot about them and their own experiences with women. Dating is supposed to be fun and exciting. If you think it’s going to end horribly or be awkward, that means you’re either going out with people you have no connection with or you have no people skills. Dating isn’t supposed to be an assault course.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 04:33 PM
6

I love these flowers! What are they called?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 04:27 PM
4

Yeah waiting for a man is a bad idea because a majority of them come with huge headaches. I might be dramatic but I would rather die than rely on a man for my happiness lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 03:38 AM
24

I know what you mean by sharing finances. I lived with an ex a long time ago and he was the worst with money. He would spend it on alcohol and gaming and it gave me intense depression and anxiety. When we broke up suddenly all my problems were gone. I realized he was the problem and not me. I’m never sharing finances with a man unless he’s proven to me he is good with money and responsible.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/09/20 06:01 PM
8

I love all of this! So glad you’re treating yourself Ike a queen. ❤️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/09/20 04:41 PM
50

This is how you know men are projecting when they say women need to be in relationships and are afraid of being alone.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/09/20 04:40 PM
2

They aren’t even dates! The meaning of dates has been entirely diluted. That’s just spending time together lol. They’re fine when the honeymoon phase is over and you know each other well, but to impress someone with low effort doesn’t make sense. You wouldn’t go to a job interview wearing sweats and a tshirt. Why should men basically get away with that on dates?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/09/20 04:02 PM
44

Yep. Agree with all of this. I’ve started doing things like this too and now I don’t even care if a man offers something low effort. I don’t take it personally, and I don’t bother responding to him. I automatically forget he exists and keep doing my thing. I’m not dating now for obvious reasons, but when I do again, I know I won’t settle for anything.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/09/20 03:16 PM
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Yeah I would take what he’s saying with a grain of salt because he’s just telling women how to deal with LVM. HVM wouldn’t think of women like this so his advice is null and void. Also most men give self serving advice anyway. In this instance he’s telling women to be hard to get because of the thrill. Do we want to be pursued? Yes. But do we also want to go through the hassle of dealing with a man who challenges us and sees us as an object? Absolutely not. I don’t want a player and I don’t want…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/09/20 02:01 PM
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Yeah I’ve seen that show. I love how it lets directed. Joe is definitely a psychopath/narcissist because he thinks he’s the best judge of character and every woman he loved his perfect.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/09/20 12:53 AM
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Okay I’ll look it up! Thanks!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 11:12 PM
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Wow. The story gets worse and worse.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 08:22 PM
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This sounds like pickmeism to the extreme. It’s crazy how normalized this is in the black community. We shouldn’t have to work this hard just to get a man. A majority of us are already out doing our male counterparts. I just don’t understand.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 08:18 PM
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It’s cool. I understand what you meant!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 07:59 PM
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Yeah I understand disagreeing but she was straight up insulting women and acting holier than thou so oh well.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 07:37 PM
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She’s been banned so I can’t find her anymore
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 07:35 PM
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Yep, what he offers you is in direct correlation to how he values you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 07:18 PM
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This mentality should be used in all relationships though. A lot of people don’t want to admit that they let shitty people into their lives because they are afraid of being alone. You should hold everyone up to the same standard you hold yourself. That means leaving when they inevitably do something to hurt you. Unfortunately, with most men this is the case.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 06:25 PM
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Yeah. If that was what she meant she would have said people instead of women. Her specifically calling out women seems to be some kind of hang up because she most likely pays her own bills and feels entitled to getting more attention dating wise.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 06:00 PM
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Yeah it’s also a woman which is confusing me, but oh well. Not gonna waste anymore headspace on her.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 04:12 PM
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I can’t stand that user. She is being very mean and vile and she just compared FDS to an incel sub. I hope she gets banned.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 04:03 PM
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You are not saying anything new and I know for sure you haven’t read the handbook. There’s no way you’re parroting everything FDS says but being wrong at the same time. We are already financially independent. We are just realistic and know that women get the bad end of the deal in divorce. Yeah people fuck people over everyday, but at least there’s a written consequence if a man decides to do so. If something happens you’ll go back to your already great life and move on much easier than a woman …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 03:47 PM
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Wowww okay you definitely don’t listen to the millions of stories of women contributing “50/50” to their marriages and getting nothing but single parenthood and the stigma of divorce as well as judgment from family and friends. We don’t live in a perfect world. Women get fucked over everyday. We say to be prepared if the man we marry decides to turn into a demon and destroy our lives because it happens everyday. It’s an insurance policy that makes more sense than others that already exist. Why p…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 03:32 PM
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Girl you definitely shouldn’t be in this sub and commenting then because you will get banned. Nobody who is an FDS member agrees with you because that goes against the entire basis of this sub. This sub is for women who wanted to be courted and pursued romantically, if you don’t want that go ahead and join another dating sub because you’re not convincing anyone here.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 03:23 PM
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They tell on themselves everyday. They don’t actually want women who do that because 1. They hate themselves so if you want them that means you’re crazy and 2. They think they’re desperate, since they have to do the approaching instead of accepting offers from men. It doesn’t matter if you look like Angelina Jolie, if you approach a man, he will think there’s something wrong with you because they know “hot girls” don’t need to work that hard in dating.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 03:11 PM
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I honestly see it as reparations. Men are not our equals and they made it that way. Why should they get access to us after oppressing us for our entire lives?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 03:00 PM
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I highly doubt this woman is talking about dating other women. Lesbian/wlw relationships are much more reciprocal than straight relationships. This woman seems to be saying she’s “not like other girls” because she doing the bare minimum of paying her own bills.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 02:59 PM
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I think you’re completely misreading. A lot of us are already providing for ourselves. Men should bring something of value to the table if they want to be around us. Nobody here is advocating being a sugar baby and that goes directly against FDS. I see nothing wrong with wanting to marry a provider because a high percent of marriages fail because of financial reasons. I don’t understand why you’re being so salty.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 02:58 PM
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If it’s a woman, she’s definitely frustrated by all the women not paying for dates with men. This little rant of hers is telling on her and her lack of ability to date who she wants. Edit: lmao someone commented “ever heard of lesbians?” like lesbians don’t pay for each other and respect each other’s time when dating. I highly doubt a lesbian would be complaining like this because more often than not, lesbians are much more reciprocal than straight men.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 01:03 PM
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I honestly don’t think so. Those women should come here on their own because if they’re that far gone, this sub will either trigger them or their posts and comments won’t add to the sub. Maybe sending her the handbook and then directing to askFDS is better because a lot of people haven’t been reading the handbook.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 12:26 PM
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Suddenly the men who spout they can take a joke can’t. How funny.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/20 12:56 AM
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I’m not saying that marriage is bad, I’m saying that they act like because those people got married their relationship is perfect and should be the goal. It feeds the idea that any man is better than no man to women. It also stops people from leaving because “hey at least I’m married.” I want to be married myself, but I’d rather people stop romanticizing marriage when we all know the reality isn’t so nice.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 11:07 PM
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That’s what I was thinking. I’ve seen tons of newbies saying their glad they joined because they feel better about their partners. This woman is definitely in denial. I hope she wakes up.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 10:22 PM
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Wowww that’s the worst story I’ve ever heard. How did he react when you broke up with him?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 07:11 PM
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I honestly just advise you read the handbook. It’s all explained there. I understand your strategy but if you don’t agree with the handbook than there’s not much to say. If you boyfriend is great, than I don’t really see why you would need this sub and the information in the handbook unless something is missing. Either way, just read the handbook.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 03:21 PM
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Yep. Do not fall for the, “I was in a dead bedroom in my last relationship so I need to know if we are compatible before hand” bullshit. If you aren’t compatible than breakup once commitment is established. I don’t understand having sex before gaining intimacy because I hate that kind of sex anyway. I won’t like it so why bother to prove to him we’re “compatible.”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 02:32 PM
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When people repeat they are a certain characteristic, they are trying to convince themselves the most. That’s why I don’t care what a man says, I only go by his actions.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 02:29 PM
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I honestly agree with you. I had an ex who said everyone cheated on him and I honestly think he was exaggerating. Even if they did, he wasn’t much of a catch anyway. He was cheap, deeply insecure, and was hard to be around. I think he just projected that idea because he thought he was perfect and no one would breakup with him for any reason at all.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 02:27 PM
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This is true. I had an ex who would always talk about sex, how good he is at it, and how sexual he was. Ended up in a dead bedroom and he sucked at sex.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 02:24 PM
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It goes against FDS because men are supposed to be generous with you when courting. Splitting the bills doesn’t let you know whether or not he is generous. It’s also not a good test because a lot of men would love to date a woman who splits the bills because you’re easier to access than other women. Most men now a days don’t have the idea that women should be paid for because of the libfems (liberal feminism). I’m sure your boyfriend is great but this doesn’t work for the majority of women becau…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 02:22 PM
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It’s also subtle triangulation. You’ll want to be better than his ex and so you’ll work hard showing him how loyal and kind you are.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 02:10 PM
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You don’t owe him anything either way. Men are entitled. They will think you owe them whether or not you pay just because you exist. I see no reason why you would insist to pay unless you want him to see you as easy which is what they will think. Splitting the bills won’t make you seem special, it will just make you seem desperate and like you’ve never been romanced or treated well. Did you read the handbook because this is a very antiFDS take.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 01:31 PM
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Yes. I don’t like that some of the newer members think the point of this sub is to get a man when it’s about leveling up. Getting a HVM is secondary and something that may never happen. That doesn’t lessen your worth, it just means no one else is worthy. Focusing on men is detrimental because you are still in the pickme mindset.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 12:36 PM
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I actually hate the idea of NRE. Like you just have crushes on people and then let it fade and than find someone new to join your poly relationship over and over? Doesn’t that get exhausting? I guess I’ll just never understand.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 12:25 PM
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That’s actually a terrible thing for a friend to say especially with someone mental health issues. I don’t think thats true about anyone unless if they refuse to go to therapy and be a better person. It has nothing to do with your capacity to have a romantic relationship. The idea that being with one person is too much of a burden because basically more than one person has to deal with that burden? It just doesn’t make sense.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 12:12 PM
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They’re trying to justify their behavior. They always think they’re the exception and that they won’t have any issues finding their dream man by having absolutely no boundaries and standards. I think those types of pickmes are the hardest to convert because they have that narcissistic mindset that they are special and above everyone else.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 01:57 AM
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Yeah a lot of people don’t realize happiness is relative. A lot of women don’t realize that they’re actually miserable in their relationships because they’ve never experienced better. Anything other than alone makes them happy. When they come to spaces like this they realize that they’ve been suppressing their negative emotions to convince themselves that they don’t need better.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 01:50 AM
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I hate this messaging because it assumes that marriage is the goal when happiness should be. Who cares if you got married in those scenarios and you’ve been together for x amount of years if you’re still shouldering the house work and have a man who could care less about being romantic? A lot of people don’t want to admit that these “happily” married couples are just playing nice in front of others because they want to be seen as couple goals.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 01:47 AM
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I’ve actually started watching his videos and I like how he communicates when creating scenarios offering help.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 01:34 AM
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I’m not talking about the premise of the show. I’m talking about the messaging behind the the show. The way they communicate with the women shows how people use these counseling methods to deter them from leaving or having higher standards and that’s something I’ve noticed across media and real life.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 01:28 AM
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Yeah the advice on male subreddits is truly laughable. Sometimes I think they’re setting other men up so the competition will be easier. There’s no way they truly believe their dream woman would be okay with a walk date. Even after getting ghosted several times, they’ll still keep up the act. It’s truly astounding.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 12:56 AM
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Yes. I think real empowerment is realizing you don’t have to take men’s shit. You can literally just walk away and stop engaging. There’s absolutely no reason for women to say “men are trash” and continue to be a forever girlfriend to a pornsick man. I just don’t understand libfem mentality. Why sleep with the devil? But of course it’s easier to just talk the talk than walk the walk. FDS forces us to walk the walk.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 12:10 AM
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No problem! Glad I’m helping.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/09/20 12:04 AM
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What advice does she want because nothing will fix them. She knows what she has to do, she just refuses to because she’s already invested too much in their relationship. I also highly doubt they’re going to get married anytime soon.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 10:49 PM
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Yes. It’s so frustrating because it doesn’t work if you don’t embody the strategy. If you’re a recovering pickme work on not getting your validation from men first. Everything else comes after. That way you can use the strategies to actually get a man of value or have an easier time dating. It’s not some magical pill that you take and you suddenly have all these options and a HVM asking for your hand in marriage. It’s hard to put FDS into play because it completely goes against everything you’ve…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 09:54 PM
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I really feel like women need to learn to be more selfish sexually. Sex is about giving AND taking. This idea that we don’t always need to orgasm is bullshit. I’ve never seen people telling a man to just deal with not getting to finish. I’ve conditioned myself to turnoff my emotions if the sex is bad. The last man I dated did everything right up until that moment and I immediately knew I was going break it off. He was so surprised and was chasing me so hard but I saw through it. He thought that …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 08:39 PM
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Lol at the same time, spending an hour or more for makeup, clothing, and shaving is too much commitment for a coffee/walk date🙃
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 07:56 PM
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Whoever downvoted your comment is definitely a lurker lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 07:48 PM
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Apparently one of the boyfriends shook the newborn and he was charged with assault. 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 04:54 PM
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I don’t know. I’ve been seeing it too and it doesn’t make sense because we talk about male depravity here all the time. Why would you advocate for poly with men who are already LVM until proven otherwise? I just don’t see the benefit in that arrangement at all.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 04:53 PM
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My question is why do they care? They can be polyamorous all they want and we’ll be over here. Just leave us alone lol. I’m so tired of the criticism like we’re forcing people to join this sub and follow this dating strategy.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 04:26 PM
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Oof I was scared for a second. I really thought y’all changed your stance😂 Nah but for real polyamory is a scam in straight relationships. I don’t care what anyone says. Men are barely functional to begin with.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 04:11 PM
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Why would you go on a real hike with a stranger? You’re secluded and hard to find. If that man does something to you, you won’t be able to get help at a reasonable time. I love hiking but I would never do it with someone I don’t know. It’s dangerous to date as women. You have to think past you’re own desires because falling back could cost you your life. Would you let your friend go on a 15km hike with a stranger on a first date?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 03:08 PM
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I think you should work being less anxious on dates by going on more dates. You get used to them after a while and you’ll stop being so nervous because they’re your new normal. No matter how it’s put, walk dates are not acceptable because they are low effort. Walks are fine after lunch, dinner, or something else elaborate, but on their own they can be dangerous and a waste of time because no HVM would ever suggest a walk as a first date.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 03:05 PM
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It’s insane. Splitting the bills means you’re FRIENDS. I don’t get why that’s so confusing. When you’re dating, you’re trying to impress someone and take them out for a treat. I swear being a man isn’t that hard in the dating world lol. They just don’t think.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 02:52 PM
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I don’t understand this arrangement. Don’t we have friends and family for that? Also just because someone is “hard to handle” doesn’t mean they need to be polyamorous. It just means they need a solid support system so they can have different alleys when in situations of need.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 02:18 PM
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Wait is she not married to this man?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 02:08 PM
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Exactly. Once you start doing things to determine certain outcomes, the target becomes your source of validation. It’s also off putting because it’s the same mentality that “ nice guys” have and men can sense that . You can feel when someone is putting coins in you like an arcade game lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 01:50 PM
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I follow her too on Instagram and Twitter! I love how inclusive she is with her dating advice.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 01:40 PM
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It would’ve been more productive for him to go to therapy than send this whiny ass message. Glad you’re away from him now.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 03:36 AM
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Yeah I’m just out of college and I feel like college culture breeds pickmes. I understand that most people are broke and can’t do super elaborate dates but it normalizes low effort. I used to tell my friends I only go on dinner dates and they thought I was crazy. They ended up having shitty boyfriends who didn’t care to be romantic though so I didn’t really lose out on anything.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 02:47 AM
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Okay I get what you’re saying. I’m glad we came to an understanding.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 02:13 AM
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100% if Ted Bundy was alive, these dates would be his wet dream.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 02:08 AM
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I get what you’re saying, but I think you’ll also lose a lot if you cohabitate and start combining lives without a safety net. Unfortunately, it will be harder to cut ties with a man if you don’t have a contract detailing how assets and money will be redistributed. I’ve seen women with life partners that aren’t cohabitating and they say they like it like that because they don’t have to sacrifice their living space and their freedom. They also won’t need to worry about a breakup because they can …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 11:27 PM
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The reactions would be sooo different if it was a woman. It’s really crazy how women are just supposed to forgive, forgive, forgive, in these situations.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 11:07 PM
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I saw this and all I could do was cringe. She seems so happy and hopeful for the best, but I just don’t trust the husbands intentions. I have a feeling he realized he couldn’t find someone else so he came back with his tail between his legs hoping she’d take him back. There’s a really really small chance he is actually remorseful and wants to restart the relationship.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 11:02 PM
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That literally sounds like the beginning of a criminal minds episode
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 10:37 PM
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I get hungry easily. Lol I couldn’t be hangry on a date with a strange man. Absolutely not.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 10:36 PM
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The thing that pisses me off is I live in a hot ass state. How do I look sweating my makeup off and getting pit stains because of the humidity? Ugh men are delusional. That literally sounds like a nightmare.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 10:23 PM
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I feel like a lot of the women who defend this type of date will say this until they actually go on it themselves or habitually get ghosted/put in the situationship category. There’s nothing romantic about walk dates. Those types of men aren’t smart because the smart ones know that love bombing is how to get women hooked, not their shitty walk dates.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 10:18 PM
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All of this. It’s not worth it because you want to have a little bit of “fun.” That fun will get you in trouble real quick. That’s how date rape happens. It’s best to be safe rather than sorry.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 08:51 PM
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I like The New Codependent by Melody Beattie. She also has another book from the 1980s Codepent No More which I’m planning to read soon.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 08:36 PM
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I don’t understand the comments about not believing in marriage. Is there even an equitable way to live with a man without having a legal contract? People are saying divorce is bad, but without it he has no incentive to stick to his word. I understand not wanting to get married, but why cohabitate then? Some of these comments are...interesting.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 08:30 PM
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People always think they’re the exception until they’re not. I guess they’ll just have to learn the hard way. We’ll find them back with an update post saying they were wrong, just watch.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 08:25 PM
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Bruh. The amount of pickmes under this post. We get it. You’re not afraid to be a forever girlfriend😂 Also don’t understand caring about cohabitating if you don’t want to get married but oh well.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 08:23 PM
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Then why are you worried about cohabiting? I’ve noticed women who don’t care for marriage also don’t care to cohabitate with men because there’s no benefit. You won’t gain anything legally by doing so, so I don’t really see the reason for worrying about doing so in the future.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 08:07 PM
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You can have fun on dates that still require effort. I feel like you should save the homebody part of yourself for men you’ve vetted. If you don’t think you can do that, then I’m not really sure how FDS can help you. It’s really the only way to vet a man and see if he is truly into you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 07:27 PM
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Pre pandemic I would wait a couple days. I’m not really dating now but I would say a week of talking should be enough for him to make a move.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 06:28 PM
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This is one thing that really frustrates me in the black community. I want us to collectively gain more confidence as women so we don’t accept this behavior anymore. Unfortunately, I’ve subconsciously started steering away from black men because the way they express interest towards me is so disrespectful. I no longer believe in “black love” because it just a way to convince us to be mules for these men.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 05:46 PM
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I read an article about love bombing that was really enlightening. It was saying that narcissists do feel “love” in that moment so when they are doing all these outrageous things they truly believe you are the one in their eyes. Once the veil they’ve created lifts they start to resent you because they realize you aren’t the idealized version of the person they thought you were. Obviously you’re human so you can’t be perfect. That’s why they start pulling away and acting distant. They keep you on…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 05:38 PM
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Never feel the need to unload trauma. If someone wants you to, leave. That is something you decide in your own time if you want to. Obviously FDS says not to because men are horrendous though, so I would say keep it in if you can. There’s no reason why a man you’re dating would need to know that stuff because you most likely haven’t known him for long so he definitely hasn’t earned you trust.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 12:51 PM
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Wow if that’s what call love I want no parts. You have a very sad view of men and relationships. And gay men have an opinion because they also think they own women’s bodies. I’m not sure what you’re trying to get at here. That we should accept that men think they own us? Counter intuitive huh? So they’re allowed to disparage us after having children because we’re “ugly” now. Nope. You can keep that, I’ll stay over here where only men who see me as a human being are allowed to be around me and my…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 12:46 PM
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Wow. Let me go look those up! Edit: I’m floored by how different he looks.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 03:46 AM
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No, I’m sure they’re extremely disappointing lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 03:44 AM
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Why is it always the women with the worst boyfriends love advertising? Notice how women with boyfriends who don’t watch porn or degrade them don’t make tiktoks being like “hey guys my boyfriend doesn’t watch porn or actively cheat on me, does that mean I’m better than you?😌”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 03:11 AM
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I noticed that too! Her face looks so uncomfortable🥴
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 03:03 AM
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Yes to all of this. I’m not afraid to be mean in these situations. Be as snarky as you want. If you downplay it and pretend like it doesn’t bother you, he’ll just think it’s okay. Also when I say snarky I don’t mean be a total asshole, but express clear distain. There’s no reason women should pretend to be nice in those situations because it’s clear disrespect.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 02:51 AM
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Girl that’s not the point. Did you read the handbook? There’s no point of cohabitating with a man if your looking to get married. Being observant isn’t that hard. Just watch how cleanly he is once you’ve known him for long enough. Why do you need to live with someone to see that? Also moving in just tells him he doesn’t need to commit to you. If you don’t want marriage that’s fine, but if you do, why would you set yourself up like that? Moving in together isn’t as romantic or as cute as other pe…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 02:45 AM
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Yep and this is all subjective. One mans treasure is another mans trash. Either way, never put yourself in the pursuer position. Wasting energy on LVM is not the move.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 02:06 AM
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If those “darkest moments” involve him being a dickhead and forgetting you’re a human being with emotions than fuck him. Just because someone has a shitty past doesn’t mean they’re allowed to subject other people to shitty behavior. That’s why I hate the idea of accepting people “as they are.” No one has to do that. We all must work to be the best versions of ourselves so we don’t hurt the people we love.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 01:42 AM
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This entire statement removes agency. Why can’t women do what they want with their bodies? Also plastic surgery isn’t always cosmetic. It can also be life changing. Either way who wants a man that would respect a woman less because of her autonomous decision. Sounds like entitlement and a LV mentality. I’m considering getting a breast reduction because my boobs are too big and inconvenient. Does that mean I need to accept a man being a demon to me because he thinks I was ugly before? Please. I’v…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 01:06 AM
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Your statement is spot on. Our way of dealing with our insecurities have nothing to do with men. If they do, fix that first. I wanted to get surgery for a while, but I chose to accept my body as it is. Just because a woman wants a boob, nose, or whatever job doesn’t mean she is trying to please other men. I love looking at myself in the mirror. Other women should too.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 12:54 AM
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Oof made the mistake of moving in once. Never again. I’m only doing it without a ring if he pays all the bills and I get to save the rent. Otherwise no thanks. Edit: jokes aside I’d rather have inner peace. I learned you gain nothing from moving in with men and you can see how they live without cohabitating. Please don’t move in with men without a ring!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 12:41 AM
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No problem! I’m glad that my advice is helping!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/09/20 12:15 AM
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Same here. I won’t be losing out on anything lol
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 11:52 PM
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Lol what in her statement made you come to this conclusion? She just married a HVM (supposedly) so lucky for her. Let’s be happy for her.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 11:51 PM
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Like I said. If you want to disclose this information to someone, you have to know them for a long time. With men be even more frugal. Don’t go around telling men you’re dating your life history. I don’t even do that to people I’ve been friends with a long time. Trust has to be earned no matter what. And yes everyone, because you’re statement makes it seem like that should be normal behavior when it is harmful and codependent. It doesn’t matter how you spin it, dumping unresolved trauma on partn…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 10:58 PM
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I think that’s different from what I’m talking about. Unless you are telling people the exact reason for your PTSD you can still have that conversation without going into too much detail. I think there’s a difference between disclosing necessary information, and using it as a way to gain sympathy or intimacy. And from what I’ve heard, I thought people with PTSD are taught how to get through triggers on their own? Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t ask for support, but like I said only from people you tr…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 10:48 PM
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Yes this is exactly what I mean. We need to stop romanticizing toxic relationship habits. There is no need for people to dump their past on others unless they are trying to fill a void in their own lives. I also don’t tell people things that still hurt me because they are not equipped to help me get through that trauma. It only leads to more hurt and disappointment. I’m fine with things I don’t care about anymore, but only if I’ve known them for a long period of time.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 10:06 PM
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Thank you!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 09:39 PM
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I think this type of bonding perpetuates a cycle of recreating trauma. It’s okay to sulk and feel sad, but eventually you have to make steps to move on. I also think it’s a form of entitlement that we don’t notice early on. Thinking that you are owed personal information just because you’ve known someone for x amount of years is extremely harmful. You should want to make that person feel safe, not want to know their deepest darkest secrets. Also time is the best intimacy creator. I don’t feel an…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 09:37 PM
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All of this. Men should only want to change because they see their behavior as harmful. Changing because of your partner doesn’t sound as great as people think it does.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 09:33 PM
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Why would they need to know your life? Real question. Do go around telling everyone you know your entire life story? Why is that a requirement? Why does that make you feel more safe? Unless you still haven’t gotten over your trauma I see no reason why dumping your past on a partner would be necessary.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 09:26 PM
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Yep. This is mate guarding to the tee. Don’t fall for it ladies. If you are a high maintenance woman, stay high maintenance. They know other men will want you if you are because you’re hard to attain.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 08:29 PM
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I absolutely detest Elon Musk. I think he is one of the dumbest tycoons and he got lucky because his parents owned a jewel mine in South Africa during the apartheid. He also stole Tesla from two of his colleagues so it wasn’t his idea. Any man that worships him is just as dumb and selfish and probably buys into the idea that he “started off in a garage” and had humble beginnings.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 06:31 PM
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I also want to add that it’s highly unlikely all your friends are with HVM. You are not a part of their relationships so you don’t know what goes on behind closed doors. Don’t let their relationships affect you and your well being. I understand the frustration, but use this time to work on your self esteem instead of nitpicking wondering what’s wrong with you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 06:26 PM
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Yep one of my worst relationships started out like that and I never looked back. I don’t trust any men who want to dump their trauma on me. That relationship lasted too long because I felt guilty for knowing too much about him and dumping him after. Now I don’t care because he had a lot of issues and it wasn’t my job to fix them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 06:19 PM
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I wait at most 5 minutes, 10 if I’m feeling generous. If I don’t get an excuse as to why they are late in that time frame or before hand I’m gone and I’m blocking.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 06:13 PM
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Thank you. I’m grateful for him as well.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 06:10 PM
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That’s your personal choice and I respect that. Fortunately for me, my father is a HVM and I’ve had other friends who were as well so I have rare examples that exist and let me know that good men do exist. It’s okay if you think men are a waste of time, there’s enough anecdotal evidence for that. I guess for the women that are willing to try, this advice is helpful so they don’t get themselves in shitty situations. I think it all boils down to how much time and effort you are willing to invest i…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 06:07 PM
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Either he is manipulating you or he wants you to be his therapist. HVM would go through their traumas on their own and get past them. If they tell you something, it’s because they trust you and they’ve already done the inner work. Edit: they also tell you after you’ve known each other for a long time, not right away.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 05:56 PM
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Lmaoooo. Yes at flashing sirens.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 05:46 PM
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That’s not what I’m saying. The connotation of a rant signals that she is letting out her frustrations out through these questions. Unless she is more specific, we aren’t too sure what this means but either way, she’s talking to strangers. I’m not saying she has to be polite and docile for men to find her attractive, I’m saying that being overly passionate and overly wordy comes off as desperate. I’ve met people who do not respect other people’s boundaries and go off about things that I didn’t c…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 04:49 PM
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Yes. My best friends have always been patient with me and my past. I have strict boundaries so I don’t allow anyone to know intimate things about me until I trust them. This usually takes years of friendship. I find it better this way because you also get to learn whether you’re compatible with your friend rather than fabricating it because you’ve already unloaded all your secrets.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 04:32 PM
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Yes all of this. Part of healing is holding yourself accountable. Yes it’s hard, but you are the only person who has to deal with yourself at the end of the day. No one wants to be an unpaid therapist in a relationship. No one is going to suddenly fix you and your past just by accepting you. You need to do all that on your own with as many resources you have available.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 04:25 PM
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I think if she wants to rant she should get a journal or rant to a friend. Ranting to strangers does nothing. It’s a waste of energy and if her goal is to date good prospects than what’s the point of using shitty tactics. Throwing darts randomly won’t get her any better results. It also won’t attract anyone because no one wants to deal with a person like that in general, even outside of dating. Put that energy into a workout, writing a book, or learning a new skill. Wasting energy on unsuspectin…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 04:20 PM
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Oof. Hindsight is truly 20/20.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 03:41 PM
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Yes. I think we should advocate for women to find peace in themselves instead of other people. Distractions are nice but they aren’t permanent solutions. If you can’t afford therapy, than read self help books and try to apply them to your life. That’s how I’ve learned to be at peace.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 03:39 PM
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I agree with the last part. Only share things that you are prepared to get thrown in your face. I don’t think being vulnerable is smart with men. They only see vulnerability as weakness. I refuse to be seen as weak by them because you just look like another victim. I save that for my life long friends and therapy.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 03:37 PM
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Yeah it try to be empathetic and remember that we’ve all been there. I think they just need to be ready to let go of the excuses.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 03:34 PM
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Yeah I’m fine with venting as long as it doesn’t include making questionable choices lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 03:28 PM
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I’m so sorry this happened to you and I’m glad you’re saving to move. That environment is very toxic. I wish you the best and hope you can leave as soon as possible!❤️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 03:27 PM
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Yes. I see the need to do these things as form of validation. I think women expect men in these situations to love them more for it, but when they don’t get the desired outcome, they just keep pushing for more validation. It’s extremely unhealthy because you should be your only source of validation. Even if you get lucky and he’s super attentive and kind towards you after, the moment he slips and uses it against you, you’ll just feel bad all over again and have to find a new source of validation…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 03:24 PM
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I’m honestly never dating a gamer again. I’ve dated them in the past, but if they noticed I was bored or inattentive they would stop playing immediately and do something that included me. I feel bad for these women because they’re just accepting this behavior from their boyfriends. Just because it’s normal doesn’t mean it’s okay. There are men who exist that will almost always prioritize you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 03:22 PM
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Yep she’s clearly the pursuer in their dynamic.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 03:19 PM
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Exactly this! I also think if you’re in love with someone, you’ll accept their flaws and learn to love them. He could list all the things he didn’t like about her just as quickly as the things he loved about her. I think that’s why women should be careful about what kind of love these men have for them. Don’t let a man love you for your convenience.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 03:12 PM
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Men also do this to get you trapped. Specifically abusive/narcissistic men. Any time a man tells me information that’s far too personal I take note and run. Unfortunately, a lot of women don’t realize this tactic and think he’s “different” and more genuine than the others.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 03:09 PM
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Yes and if they say they’ve read the handbook say read it again and annotate it. It’s a hard pill to swallow the first time around if you’re an intense pickme. Instinctively they’ll want to ignore the parts that trigger their denial, but with intentional reading there should be no obvious questions or doubts. I think the handbook is extremely straight forward and vague enough for it to be applied personally.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 03:07 PM
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Yes I think that’s why going to therapy is so important. That’s a very safe outlet for people with extensive trauma. I personally don’t feel the need to voice my traumas anymore because I’ve dealt with them internally but everyone is different.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 03:04 PM
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I think you should take a break from dating. I understand the frustration, but this tactic won’t be helpful and will just cause you to push away any potential candidates in dating. Being too talkative and drawn out is a turn off for anybody, especially a stranger. If you’re feeling this frustrated, stay off OLD for a week or a month until you feel less jaded. Small talk isn’t bad. I think it’s just the lack of effort you’re receiving which is causing you to feel this way.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 02:50 PM
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Yes. I’ve always said the ability and availability to divorce has always shown how modern a society is. Just like anything else, we need to have the choice to leave, especially with legal contracts. Marriage is a legal contract under the state. To see it as anything else is a disservice.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 02:44 PM
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I used to have a guy friend that would talk about his “first love” and we would argue because the way he talked about her didn’t sound like he was in love at all. I asked what he loved about her and all of her characteristics had to do with what she did for him. She was the “perfect” woman because she was kind, generous, forgiving, understanding, you get the rest. He broke up with her twice because he felt like she wasn’t attractive enough and she had no ambitions. I still don’t understand how h…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 02:24 PM
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This! I want to be married but I’ve made several posts reminding women that marriage is an aspect of the patriarchy. I have to remind myself that to be married, that man has to exceed all my standards. I also have to be prepared to walk at any time and have a prenup that favors me. I refuse to romanticize marriage and think that a ring on my finger will suddenly mean the man I’m with is 100% a HVM. Being calculated is the only way I can ensure that marriage benefits me and doesn’t hold me back f…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 02:04 PM
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I feel like the pickmes from reddit are a different breed. If you find yourself coming to reddit for relationship advice, you’re already in too deep.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 01:31 PM
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Girl I had to tell another user that they shouldn’t lower their standards just because they’re afraid of not getting a man. They were saying not being emotionally invested and being a bad texter are small LVM things you can look over. The whole point of this sub is to only care about HVM traits. We’re supposed to run once we see otherwise. Red flags are warnings that should be taken seriously. Our lives are at stake.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 01:28 PM
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I’m sorry but this mentality is exactly what we’re talking about. Men don’t deserve our vulnerability. Save that for your other relationships. That might seem crazy but I’ve seen too many women think their man was different and get burned right away. This sub is about protecting yourself in the dating world. With how rampant LVM are, it’s not smart not to keep men at arms length. Relationships do not need that much vulnerability. I’ve had LTR relationships without it and I was perfectly fine bec…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 01:23 PM
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Yeah that day on Twitter I realized how many women shouldn’t be mothers. They literally put their selfish, LVM husbands before their children because they’re sOulMaTeS.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 05:02 AM
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It’s a joke. Someone said this years ago on twitter seriously and they’ve been getting roasted since. There were hoards of pickmes defending her though.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 03:21 AM
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I agree with this post 100%. I’ve been seeing newbies arguing about standards and dating advice that is already in the handbook. We already go over how to navigate sex, moving in together, dates, and much more. If you don’t agree with the tenants, then so be it. You can tweak some things to make them personal, but at the end of the day, the principles still apply. FDS is FDS it’s not a suggestion, it’s a lifestyle.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 03:01 AM
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I don’t know I feel like this is a scarcity mindset. You’ll easily accept bad behavior if you think nobody will ever reach your standards. Also having a man shouldn’t be a general goal, just a nice thing to have on the side. I’ve dated LVM and even they held up to the things you stated as typical LVM things.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/09/20 10:48 PM
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This is true. I actually don’t believe in the concept of forgiveness because I feel like it’s a form a propaganda from oppressors in general. It’s the same with closure for me. I think things will be easier to deal with over time, but I don’t believe there will ever be closure. I personally don’t forgive people because if they do something that needs forgiving, they’re already out of my life.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/09/20 06:22 PM
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He’ll just be freaked out, think she’s clingy, and do something to sabotage their relationship.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/09/20 02:50 AM
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I might get downvoted for this but I genuinely don’t care if men think we hate them. I don’t like respectability politics because it upholds the status quo. Women hate men because of the danger they impose on us daily. Men are the number one threat to women’s lives. I get wanting to let them down easy and make us look less crazy, but they won’t listen anyway. They’re illiterate. The only men who think women hating men is irrational are LVM. Every HVM I know understands why women would hate men a…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/09/20 05:41 PM
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I understand where you’re coming from but there’s a reason why these things are in the hand book. Doing these things is the easiest way to become a forever girlfriend. It might seem sweet on the outside, but men don’t appreciate the sentimental aspects of these parts of the relationship. If he feels like you’re already his wife without the title, then he’ll feel no reason to get married to you. If you don’t want to get married though, then go ahead and do what you’re comfortable with.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/09/20 04:50 PM
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This statement is like a beam coming from a lighthouse for pickmes. When they hear this, they feel vindicated for putting so much energy into men. “Aww he just doesn’t know his worth. I’m just showing him how great he is by doing xyz.” I feel like men know what they are doing when they say stuff like this. Now it’s our burden to bring up their self esteem and fix their insecurity issues. Clearly, we are the ones causing them to be such hollow shells of human beings.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/09/20 10:01 PM
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Yep that’s the experience a lot of women have. It’s very isolating and causes women to have a hard with maintaining lasting relationships. I wish we had a balance where we can evolve but we also have space for tension and change.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/09/20 09:52 PM
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This is why marriage isn’t a prize. Yeah you got the ring, but now he’s embarrassing you on the internet🤦🏾‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/09/20 04:54 PM
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Yeah I also think this is apart of the patriarchy. I want women to be human beings. Obviously not as depraved as men, but we need to be able to make mistakes. This idea that women are “naturally” better than men bites us in the foot because of said karma. There’s no space for us to be held and cared for when we make mistakes because womanhood says we must always be chaste and martyrs.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/09/20 02:29 PM
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I think they embellish to make themselves feel better. Their brains couldn’t comprehend women living their lives happily without them. It’s also a way to scare the pickmes. Once they’ve opened their eyes, they have no one.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/09/20 02:01 PM
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Once he has a midlife crisis, he’ll realize that this life of his isn’t all it’s cut out to be. Men who are bachelors are much more depressed than married men at older ages. His only source of validation is also these dates. Once they stop coming in, what does he have to keep replenishing his validation?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/09/20 01:59 PM
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Lmao at the emotional part. Men are extremely emotional. I don’t know if it’s just me but my past boyfriends used to always be sad or angry at something. They would be constantly projecting their insecurities on me and asking for reassurance. I think men act this way so they project it onto women to feel above us. I know very few women who are “emotional.”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/09/20 01:56 PM
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Yeah. I personally think she got left behind in the new waves of feminism because nobody thinks having kids, a husband l, and a career is having it all. Now that the definitions has evolved, she’s mad she has nothing to account for all her hard work.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/09/20 01:53 PM
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Yep this is the gist of what I got from her rant. I think she completely misinterpreted the idea of “having it all.” Maybe back then it was about having kids and a family with a career, but times have changed. Women have evolved past that ideology. I think she’s just frustrated she got left behind and was brainwashed into thinking all her hard work and effort will be repaid. Instead of adjusting and trying to achieve a good life, she’s writing essays on why young women have it “easier” and how w…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/09/20 01:48 PM
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She seems like a bitter hater. I think she’s angry that she thought “having it all” would be amazing, but she clearly regrets it. It shouldn’t be that hard raising kids if you have someone helping you. I also think she’s jealous of women who can take said naps and have social lives. Hopefully she finds happiness because I couldn’t imagine writing a whole essay on how women this generation “don’t have it all.”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/09/20 01:43 PM
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Yep I have a male friend that I’ve been close to for years who told me that he pays for me because he wants to include me in things. This was when I had less money, so he wanted to include me in experiences like concerts, bars, clubs, theme parks etc. He also does it because he loves to see me happy because I’m one of his favorite friends. He’s never told me I owe him anything, and he’s never come on to me and we’ve been friends for 4 years. Because of this, I don’t understand my boyfriends not …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/09/20 11:38 PM
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I’ve had guy friends. They gossip just as much or even more than women. They’re also fake as hell. This mentality is so false lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/09/20 10:37 PM
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She also does all the cooking. Clearly her ex knew the division of labor was horrendous because it made him look bad. I hope she realizes she doesn’t need to be a maid to be in a healthy and loving relationship.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/09/20 01:35 PM
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I’ve come to realize that a lot of men are unreliable narrators. They have to make themselves the victim or that would mean accountability. Unfortunately, there’ll always be a pickme to believe the lies and ease his aching dick.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/09/20 01:33 PM
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That’s the most devastating thing about this. Men are so deranged that we can’t even be willfully kind to them. I would only do this if there’s evidence that the man constantly reciprocated in the same way. If he’s never lifted a finger for me, I won’t be making a show out of taking care of him.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 07:05 PM
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I think she will too just because of how emotional she is over it. I’ve noticed that when women barely react to cheating (AKA revenge) they move on and never go back. When they do, they make a show out of it and secretly go back to the man.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 06:04 PM
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No I think she’s mainly embarrassed. I haven’t seen anything yet.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 04:15 PM
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Yeah I think reciprocity is a big part of it. Nothing wrong with being caring but if he isn’t putting the same effort pack it up.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 03:46 PM
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I feel like when women do this they subconsciously know the man is doing something behind their back. It doesn’t have to be cheating, but it seems like they’re overcompensating to hide their gut feeling.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 03:40 PM
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This is true. I honestly think if women don’t wake I up, they’ll become slaves in heterosexual relationships. I’ve been seeing so much dating advice expanding the roles for women because “it’s 2020 and we’re equal.” Women aren’t even considered equal yet. Men aren’t even expected to approach or court women. We have to do the child baring, the child care, split the bills, take care of the household, and push the relationship forward. At this point, what are men responsible for?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 03:35 PM
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Her account name is nursebre so I’m guessing so. It seems like nurses tend to love adopting projects from what I’ve seen.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 02:27 PM
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This article is why you NEED to block and delete. Men know they can keep you on a hook if you give them access. Never give them the benefit of the doubt.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 02:14 PM
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I totally agree with this. I’ve told men that I think there’s more than one soulmate and not all of them are meant to stay in our lives. They looked at me like a had three heads. Of course they said I was wrong because we’re meant to stay with one person our whole lives. 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 02:12 PM
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It’s a spiritual thing. A lot of women watch videos about angels talking to them or communicating to them saying their on the right path when they see these numbers. This is usually about relationships and it connects to the twin flame obsession in the astrology/tarot card world. He’s using this knowledge to manipulate these women so they think he’s a twin flame/soulmate.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 02:10 PM
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I guess I should mention that her tiktok is private because she found him cheating on her a little while later.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 02:07 PM
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I’ve heard about this. I’ve had friends who were nurses and they’ve had the worst leeches for boyfriends. Men really do take advantage when you’re a nurturing person. I feel for these women because they genuinely think the best of them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 02:06 PM
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He already cheated. Her accounts on private because she found out he was dating another girl he got pregnant.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 02:03 PM
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100% this. That’s why they’re always asking what we bring to the table. Now that women are conditioned to play wifey before commitment it’s become normal for men to expect this behavior.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 02:03 PM
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Same here! I was so disappointed. She had to put her account on private because her next video was him cheating with a woman he impregnated.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 02:02 PM
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Girl. When I saw her boyfriend for the first time I was shocked. Like pikachu face shocked. He is ugly and he doesn’t deserve her. The fact that he’s broke on top of that is even more disrespectful to me. I’m sure he knows that and despises her for it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 01:49 PM
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Girl. When I saw her boyfriend for the first time I was shocked. Like pikachu face shocked. He is ugly and he doesn’t deserve her. The fact that he’s broke on top of that is even more disrespectful to me. I’m he knows that and despises her for it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 01:49 PM
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It’s actually insane how much evidence there is that men don’t appreciate anything. Like at this point, the pickmes are brainwashed.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 01:26 PM
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When you match and block him he’ll make up a little sob story about how women are evil and always take advantage of him🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 12:39 AM
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I usually just say “Oh I didn’t know you were looking for friends. Sadly, I like to go on dates so seems like we’re incompatible.”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 12:22 AM
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Yep I used to have a friend who had the perfect girlfriend on paper. Kind, loving, bought him everything, generous etc. and he dumped her twice because he thought she wasn’t attractive enough for him. He obsesses over the exes that were the shittiest to him though. Men don’t appreciate nice gestures.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 12:19 AM
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I get where you’re coming from and I’m not a fan of Pam but abuse is abuse. I see no excuse to think it’s okay to engage in abusive behavior because you are being cheated on and refuse to leave. I don’t think that’s HV behavior and as much as I don’t like Pam, Roy was not a good partner. He was very selfish and refused to be kind to her. His changed behavior doesn’t mean he wasn’t a piece of shit in the past. I only believe in what the show portrayed him as and his behavior in the relationship w…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/09/20 09:35 PM
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Yep, that’s why they leave when their wife or children end up having an illness or disability. They never cared for them to begin with.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/09/20 08:58 PM
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The men who complain about paying for dinners also don’t realize that the reason they’re failing isn’t because women are “using them.” It’s because they have issues with their personalities or are unbearable to be around. Them doubling down and doing shitty dates is just going to be a self fulfilling prophecy. Of course women don’t like cheap insecure men. They fall for the men who are the romantics that make them feel special. That’s why love bombing works so well. They’re so irrational it’s in…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/09/20 08:57 PM
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Also peep how men rarely brag about this stuff the other way around. It’s always a degrading way of having sex with the woman, not pleasuring her solely.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/09/20 08:45 PM
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This guy is definitely cheating on her😬 If not he’s having fun using her.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/09/20 08:43 PM
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Oof I forgot she kissed Jim in the first few episodes so yeah more than emotional cheating, but either way Roy was a piece of shit lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/09/20 08:41 PM
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Yeah. As much as I think Pam is under whelming, I don’t think she was cheating on him with Jim the whole time. I think she was just looking for companionship with someone who saw her as a worthwhile being. Roy was always an asshole to her and would constantly neg her. He was also super unromantic and wouldn’t even get her proper gifts on important occasions. They would’ve never gotten married if they stayed together because Pam was Roy’s placeholder.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/09/20 07:33 PM
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I love her account. She’s a dating coach that focuses on women leveling up and leaving men behind. She also hates people who think having certain privileges (light skin, skinny, white, etc.) means they deserve to be treated better. Her dating advice is centered around leveling up and having strict boundaries in life and not just in dating.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/09/20 07:29 PM
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I think he is. He goes seems like an active father but I can’t say much since I don’t know him personally. Either way, he could choose to lead the fantasy lifestyle most LVM dream of because he’s attractive and has money.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/09/20 05:12 PM
4

That’s true but I don’t like excusing abusive behavior. I think if he was truly a HVM he would have left immediately instead of trying to control and bring her down.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/09/20 05:08 PM
5

Same here! Even though she had more personality, her fighting over Jim was cringey. I remember the episode when they were up all night constantly “talking.” I would’ve just broken up with him. She was also still bitter even after getting married and pregnant.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/09/20 01:57 PM
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Honestly, Jim seemed like the stereotypical nice guy. It’s just in his scenario, he won. He never cared for Pam as an individual. He would always project on her and make it seem like what he wanted was what she wanted. I don’t think he respected her because everything was done on his timeline and judgement. The house thing really irked me because she was never considered in that decision.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/09/20 01:55 PM
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I get it but Roy is no prize. That man is definitely not a HVM. He was controlling and abusive, macho type guy. He also emotionally abused Pam and made her feel worthless constantly. The episode showing him “doing better” was sad to me because it reminds me of women who waste years on men who treat their next partner way better.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/09/20 01:51 PM
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Oof. I didn’t think of her like that but she’s definitely the dream woman for a lot of LVM. She’s the “beautiful but doesn’t know it” trope. Unfortunately it’s not real life so even if these men met their Pam, they wouldn’t put as much effort as Jim. If anything, they would be the Roy of the relationship. I also got nice guy vibes from Jim.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/09/20 01:49 PM
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