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I forget where I read it - "What Every Body Knows", I think - but the opinion of people who deal with body language is that the two-handed shake (#2) actually makes people less comfortable. Counter-intuitive, I know.
/r/seduction29/01/11 02:51 PM
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No, I get together with you because you're drunk.
/r/seduction27/01/11 02:54 PM
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Apparently it is true. Da bitches luv smileys.
/r/seduction08/01/11 08:02 PM
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correction - egg sandwich
/r/seduction08/01/11 02:02 PM
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Isn't this more appropriate for FBs rather than FWBs? The latter, I thought, would be girls that you still do stuff with like a friend - movies, shopping, watch a football game, etc - and the sex is just when you are both looking for it and your other sources aren't available.
/r/seduction07/01/11 10:13 PM
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Darkness to Light I'm an IT guy but have done just about anything - stuff envelopes, data entry, help with the grant process, etc.
/r/seduction31/12/10 03:09 AM
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Lots of good ideas here. I'll address the volunteer work, as I recently started doing volunteer work a couple times a week. The obvious benefit is that you are helping people in some fashion and that's good for the ego. It helps to improve your self-esteem knowing that you are making a difference. This will definitely help your inner game. Another benefit though is the chance to meet other people. If you have any AA issues, this can be a tremendous opportunity to practice the "talk to everyone" …
/r/seduction30/12/10 08:24 PM
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invite her back to your place for an egg sandwich. seriously, though, take the age part of it out of the equation. You're trying to pickup a hired gun. Not easy but, since she was playfully flirty with you when you were working there (versus being a paying customer), you can probably disregard that, too. Just tell her what fun thing you are doing later that night and that she should come meet up with you after she gets off her shift. If the shift ends real late and she pulled a double, though, y…
/r/seduction30/12/10 01:58 PM
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Thanks for the input. The night went well - some friends of hers did end up meeting us at the bar, but that actually worked out ok because I started flirting heavily with them and having fun and just made girl A want me even more. If I weren't trying for A I feel I could have easily had one of the other friends. Still, nothing much happened because she knows I am still involved with girl D, but I could tell she was having a hard time holding back and I know that wall will crumble. Could you expa…
/r/seduction30/12/10 01:45 PM
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I'm a solo-sarger as well (not by choice). It depends on the venue. A lot of times I'll find a restaurant/bar that typically attracts the type of women I am interested in. I have dinner at the bar, get to know the bartenders and then chat with anyone sitting by me. Once dinner is done and the crowd has filled in a bit more with the drinks crowd you can grab your drink and mingle. Of course, I'm an older guy and this is where I'm comfortable. Other venues (more bar-like rather than restaurant) wo…
/r/seduction30/12/10 01:32 PM
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boating/sailing - how many girls would love to imagine themselves being taken for a sail in the Caribbean or Mediterranean?
/r/seduction29/12/10 02:55 AM
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You needed to kiss her. The fact that she straddled you indicated you had ample opportunity to do so. You need to go for the kiss early and not at the end. I think you should have kissed her while the opening credits were running on the movie. Possibly earlier.
/r/seduction29/12/10 01:46 AM
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I guess I think of "being over AA for a long time" as being pretty advanced, especially compared to the OP. I've read your FRs and I think you are more advanced (and entertaining to read) than most of the people here on seddit.
/r/seduction15/12/10 03:42 PM
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Some might say that a text conversation this long is overdone but I like what I see. Clearly you had good attraction built up with her already since the flirting in the texts were 2-way and nothing seemed uncomfortable (if one can imply from a simple text dump, at least). And good use of smileys. The bitches love smileys.
/r/seduction15/12/10 01:51 PM
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First - you aren't even close to being at the end of the runway. I didn't start this stuff until I was in my mid-40s and, while I wish I learned this stuff earlier, I'm hardly at the end of my runway. (damn kids. Now GET OFF MY LAWN!) The things you mention not being able to do - stopping a woman on the street, etc - that is advanced game. I can't do it either but, you know what, who gives a crap? I can now talk to strangers (men and women, ugly and attractive) when I'm in a social setting (bar,…
/r/seduction15/12/10 01:11 PM
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this I moved to my city a few months ago and needed to build a social network so I just started going out to cool bars for dinner - get to know the bartenders by name - and start talking to people. No one has ever asked me why I am there alone. People do it all the time. So the fact that you aren't new to the area doesn't matter. Social proof is nice, but it isn't the be-all and end-all. If you can demonstrate that you are comfortable enough in your own skin to go out and eat alone and that you …
/r/seduction15/12/10 01:00 PM
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Going Mobile and Magic Bus - both by the Who.
/r/seduction15/12/10 01:32 AM
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If we're going to bring up movies (and I don't want to start another thread just for this, so I'm hijacking yours :-P If you've seen The Tourist already, the initial scene where Angelina and Johnny meetup she basically instructs him how not to be an AFC. Most people unfamiliar with PUA theory would probably write it off but it was quite accurate. And who doesn't love watching Angelina really dolled up.
/r/seduction15/12/10 12:08 AM
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From the "New to this reddit" on the sidebar: First dates
/r/seduction14/12/10 01:02 PM
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I respectfully disagree. As a mid-40s guy myself I think I have a decent idea of my female peers' behaviors. Remember, we're talking about them going out after she already gave him her number and not talking about how he should act on the initial pickup.
/r/seduction13/12/10 11:13 PM
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I've visited DC quite a few times and found great places in almost every section of town. Give more details as to what part of town you are staying in and you might have better luck. There's probably a Washington DC subreddit, too, where you can ask locals about good places to meet singles. Probably get more activity than this group.
/r/seduction13/12/10 05:48 PM
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Call her. Meet her at a bar (you met her at a bar, so she goes to them whether or not she drinks alcohol). Do not do dinner or a movie. Continue to flirt with the intent of going home with her. Don't worry about her requirements for a relationship. She's a big girl and can say no if she needs to. Keep going until you get a no. Don't keep going if you get a no, but you might be able to back off and try again - just never go beyond a no. And if you don't get a no then WIN! edit: correct typo
/r/seduction13/12/10 05:01 PM
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Just so we understand the timeline. First date she had her period. 3-4 dates over the next month and she's back on the period. No where in between the first date period and the last date period do you try to escalate to an F-close, so she's lost the sexual vibe and LJBF'ed you (except it looks like she's up for LJBFWB - which many here would like to have). But you don't want that kind of relationship? Sounds like a shit test (to see if you'll man up and make the relationship sexual). You failed …
/r/seduction11/12/10 08:07 PM
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It sounds like there is more to the story regarding her trust issues with you. You'll need to uncover what those are and address them if you are intent on repairing this relationship (since this really isn't PU-related). Somewhere you lost her attraction so that she was willing to believe other people's opinions/trash-talking. Remain indifferent to the outcome and don't try and get her back. If she comes back to you saying she wants you back you need to have the heart-to-heart about your roles i…
/r/seduction11/12/10 07:59 PM
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But it sounds like she did (and does) like you so, if you do meet up again you'll be better prepared to make something happen that night (and come back with an awesome FR the next day). And if the age turns out to be something of an issue for her remember that you are not defined by your age so she isn't rejecting you - she still likes you, just has her own set of rules. Similar to the fact that you don't bother with bi's. They want you to like them, too, but you have your rules.
/r/seduction11/12/10 03:09 PM
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As another person-of-age I see the young'uns as something that, if it happens it happens. By that, if something happens while you are together go with it, but I wouldn't be calling and trying to set something up specifically with her. I met a 21-yr old this summer at a beach bar and, while we were sitting there on the sand we started making out. I wouldn't call her afterward nor try to set something up. If we ever run into each other again I would let things flow naturally. That's just me but, b…
/r/seduction11/12/10 02:26 PM
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Since personality isn't genetic, there is no "true" you, just who you've grown to be. Since you've made the choices in your life to be one way (introverted, shy, whatever) you can also reprogram yourself the same way. it isn't easy to change 20 or 30 (or in my case 40) years of programming but it isn't impossible. Also, since all your previous programming was done without intent, you can make major changes with intent much quicker (but not over night). Do you know anyone who every took a (reputa…
/r/seduction10/12/10 09:15 PM
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Need to number close before splitting up which means you have to build attraction - more attraction than your co-worker builds. Sounds like you may have done fine with the kino and getting IOIs - what was the other guy's game like? Oh, and I don't see in your post how he earned the title AMOG - he's just another guy trying to get the same girl as you - doesn't make him an alpha guy, just competition. He could even be AFC and not be able to do anything with the opportunity alone with her.
/r/seduction10/12/10 07:04 PM
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Don't even bother with any apologetic talk. You have her number. Just be more alpha going forward - no looking back. She may already flake but apologizing will make things worse, not better. Good FR
/r/seduction10/12/10 04:51 PM
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Well, I can't resist throwing in my horror story. Be aware that I know that my role in the situation was totally wrong and I have learned my lesson and won't do something like this again. Was going through my divorce and this married co-worker (I always had a little crush on her but remained just friends with) and I started talking more about relationships and my divorce and her marital problems. One thing led to another and she ends up falling hard for me. A little kissing and body rubbing ensu…
/r/seduction10/12/10 03:31 PM
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Great FR. I personally loved the response to the "you look like my ex" question. I think because you were play acting that you were her ex, any lower value would actually be attributed to him. Of course, it depends on the delivery, but I think you successfully navigated that shit test. I agree that, since you didn't fully understand why you were invited you should have been watching for clues to figure out why. Was BD girl giving IOIs throughout the night? Were they looking for someone to buy th…
/r/seduction10/12/10 03:03 PM
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Don't you think it could have just been a typo? Sheesh!
/r/seduction09/12/10 06:36 PM
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Well done. Had you noticed an IOIs earlier in the night from the host or did everything start outside?
/r/seduction09/12/10 06:34 PM
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Yes, they both knew. We were all walking back to the parking lot at the marina together. When Ann went to break off to head to her car, I went a few steps with her, the other girls waited, and I said "Hey, give me your number because I don't do the FB thing" (She wanted me to friend her on FB. Once she gave me the number I immediately sent her a "Hey" text to confirm she got it and had my number. I said good night and joined the other girls who were waiting patiently. When the rest of the group …
/r/seduction09/12/10 06:31 PM
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Thanks. I would have to say I didn't get the reciprocation the way I wanted. As near as I could tell there was no stiffening to my touch or any other indicators that she wasn't comfortable and she definitely continued to show interest in me but she really didn't return my kino. If I had to guess, maybe it is still coming across as forced rather than natural. I will have to pay closer attention to how "what I'm saying" matches the impetus to touch.
/r/seduction09/12/10 04:12 PM
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Sounded like you had asked her to dinner but then sounded like you just got her to agree to the possibility of dinner. You needed to get a commitment sooner. You waited almost an entire week during which time any attraction you had built up was lost. Read the sidebar to avoid this the next time.
/r/seduction09/12/10 01:47 PM
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I'm reminded of a line by Humphrey Bogart in Casablanca: Q: Where were you last night? A: That was so long ago I can't remember. Q: Will I see you tonight? A: I never make plans that far in advance.
/r/seduction09/12/10 01:41 PM
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I maintain a healthy dose of paranoia and would hate for someone to recognize themselves (or me) in a seddit post, so I won't give you specifics (PM me if you think you're in the area and want to sarge together) but I'm on the coast of Southeast US.
/r/seduction09/12/10 12:53 PM
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If the Alexander Graham Bell museum is still inside the lobby at the Verizon building (in the financial district) take her there. Will only take a few minutes but many people in the Boston area (and most tourists) have no idea it is there, so it is very special. I heard a rumor it just got closed in the last year, though. Worth researching. If the skating rink on the common is open, that's a possibility too.
/r/seduction07/12/10 02:58 AM
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8 - 44 yrs old. Crap, I guess I have a lot of catching up to do :-)
/r/seduction06/12/10 10:07 PM
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Having just done what you describe (except I knew 0 people down here when I moved), you are pretty spot on. A couple items, though: the pad - definitely find one nearer the social scene and try to spend a few extra bucks for the first year's lease. Better have too much pad when you are in a new place than not enough. If the city has a farmer's market, great place for day game. Look for similar civic-type events to be at. Most of the well-connected people network in these events 9at least down he…
/r/seduction06/12/10 09:59 PM
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Dorian Gray
/r/seduction06/12/10 02:32 PM
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Danger Will Robinson. Your fast track to success will become a slog through the mire if people find out you slept with your boss. Your achievements will be called into question, as will your judgment - the latter being far more important for higher-level folks. They will wonder if you'll cause problems when you get put in charge of people and what kind of lawsuits could result. Do not do it. If she makes things difficult for you because you refuse her advances that is a legal issues (here in the…
/r/seduction06/12/10 02:28 PM
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm curious, what you would put on a card considering there's no business info (company name, title, etc)? Oh, after I tried guessing her age (and before she revealed it (I could tell from her expression that I shot high but I didn't care - I didn't call her 40 facrysakes) she tried to get me to tell my age but I refused and forced her to guess. She may have intentionally shot low although most people tell me I look early-mid 30s (I'm blessed with youthful looks - thanks…
/r/seduction03/12/10 02:46 AM
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The problem with FRs is that they are summaries. I wish I could actually see someone in action (live, vs some of the vids on Youtube) to really see the stuff being used. If you live in a bigger city than I perhaps you can find a PUA (through seddit) that will let you come along some night. That might make it all that much more real.
/r/seduction03/12/10 02:30 AM
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I agree that it wasn't a complete waste as I did learn from it. Thanks for the input.
/r/seduction03/12/10 02:24 AM
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Statistically almost every relationship will turnout to be a failure (successful marriages/partnerships that last until death / every other romantic relationship in a person's life). The girl has a morals issue if she is cheating on her boyfriend. To me, that isn't your problem, although it is something to take into account if you want to develop a relationship with her. If she'll do it to this guy she can do it to you. If that doesn't bother you, go for it but watch your back. The "other guy" s…
/r/seduction03/12/10 01:44 AM
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Have you seen Turkish mothers?
/r/seduction03/12/10 01:25 AM
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I'm assuming she works at the hospital? If so, she may have gotten busy. Don't put down to malice (flaking/shit test) that which could just be the realities of her job. I'd call her on missing the "date" but don't be too serious since she probably didn't have a choice. I'm sure you can claim pain and suffering from starvation due to the missed lunch and that she owes you a good meal. Have fun with it. Sounds like you've got a good connection.
/r/seduction03/12/10 01:09 AM
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First, I'm going to rephrase the question to better suit my own needs (yeah, I'm funny like that). What am I using the PU/Seduction techniques for in my life? Recently divorced, living in a new part of the country with no family/friends nearby, need to get over my INTJ-self and meet people - women, yes, but make friends in general. Stop being the guy in the XKCD comic that was linked by LesbianPUA the other day. Accept that my sexuality is ok and that I am the prize. Build self-confidence. I rea…
/r/seduction02/12/10 05:00 PM
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And imagine how freaked out the driver ahead of you is when he looks in his rear-view mirror.
/r/seduction21/11/10 03:13 PM
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Tonic and lime (or seltzer and lime). I always have a splash of cranberry added to my seltzer so that I can actually enjoy the taste. As far as the pressure to have alcohol, you can always say that you're working off a hangover, did way to much partying recently and just need to clean out, or whatever.
/r/seduction21/11/10 02:58 PM
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Yes, you have to eventually break eye contact but, before you do, acknowledge her - give a smile and see if she smiles back. If so maybe give a little head nod or a mouthed "hi". If she doesn't return the smile you can then casually look away and assume there's nothing there. Once you've made a connection beyond the stare you can break off. Make sure you follow up later with a conversation. Also, you may find that, once that little connection was made you'll be making other non-verbal connection…
/r/seduction19/11/10 01:40 PM
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I think the point is - how the heck do you know on a first date that this is a person worth a LTR? It's the first date facrysakes. Don't try to buy success.
/r/seduction19/11/10 05:42 AM
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Great suggestion. I actually do my shopping online but I think this year will require a bit more attention to the shops in our shopping district.
/r/seduction18/11/10 10:14 PM
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Good thing I'm not trying to pick up sedditors, then. besides, I'm an old bastard - people my age really do use words like this.
/r/seduction18/11/10 03:49 AM
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C'mon, there are some clever guys and gals here. At least they know how to use a dictionary. :-)
/r/seduction17/11/10 07:22 PM
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I used to be the same way - never cared all that much for being touched. being tickled was akin to torture - I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate being tickled. I'm also the control guy (which made me the boring but trusted guy - I had very little sexual activity when I was a younger guy) and always drove and made sure everyone got home safely. But I'm much better now :-) I'm also a lot older and I've learned that I can trust (some) people more and open up a bit and relax. Yes, it is a trust issue - f…
/r/seduction17/11/10 03:42 AM
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You don't need to share anything at this point. I'm not sure what your expectation is in this situation - FWB? LTR? Just make sure you know what your expectation is and don't do things that would lead her to believe they are something else. For instance, if you are looking for a FWB, avoid the romantic things like holding hands, buying her flowers, etc. Just understand your own expectations, live according to them, and watch for any signs of what hers are. Good luck.
/r/seduction16/11/10 02:44 PM
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Also, remember it is only recommended (based on the reading I have done here) to be used on the most beautiful women who get hit on all the time. Your HB7's (and maybe 8s) will not likely respond the way you'd like.
/r/seduction15/11/10 08:35 PM
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A great quote, actually.
/r/seduction15/11/10 06:28 PM
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I recently had a few dates with a lady who was terrible at meeting a scheduled time. Even though I knew this I had in my mind an expectation as to how long I would wait for her before I was annoyed and made other plans. In your case, you had tentative plans - she knew you might be late. The thing that would have annoyed me (and so may have annoyed her) is that, at some point, you knew you were going to be very late but you waited until 2 hours after your planned time to text her. A simple text t…
/r/seduction15/11/10 03:26 PM
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(looks like the comment system is mostly working again) Thanks for the tips - they're certainly useful for me. I am definitely in the midst of redoing my wardrobe as I lost a couple inches around the waist and my pants don't fit as well as they used to. In the summer when it's 90F and 90% humidity it is tough to dress nicely but, now that it's cooling down I can go with slacks and a nice shirt. I definitely don't like dressing up like a kid. Will have to dig up some younger friends to hang with.…
/r/seduction14/11/10 06:21 PM
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Thanks for the input gang. I've been trying to stick to the guideline of half your age plus 7 (making 29 my lower limit) although I did have a 21 yr old coast guard gal make out with me on the beach a month or so ago (again, hardly had to do any game although I had a couple beers in me and was in a who-gives-a-shit mood and she was aggressive despite the AMOG with her). The dance suggestion sounds good. There's a bar down the street that does salsa one night a week and shagging (a dance to beach…
/r/seduction14/11/10 06:15 PM
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I would agree with tofusensei's advice of not having that conversation. You haven't actually met in person so you really haven't built any attraction - you're just asking to get shot down here. One of the big problems you have going is she apparently doesn't have her own means of transportation - so frustration level will likely be high.
/r/seduction14/11/10 02:28 AM
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