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1 what if I sound shy or scared Nothing. Worst case you don't get the girl. 2 what if she has a boyfriend Nothing. Worst case you don't get the girl 3 what if I come off too serious Nothing. Worst case you don't get the girl GUESS WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DON'T APPROACH.
/r/seduction09/07/19 05:43 AM
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Ok first off few things: you're sure she's not a bot or anything? Also you're sure she's of legal age? I ask since you never met her. If not sure on age, don't even fuck around. You need to take the lead more. Stop asking her where do you want to meet up, instead say "let's go such and such". I'm not really sure what you need help with though. She seems to want to hang out and you do too so just meet up already?
/r/seduction03/07/19 03:35 AM
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Thanks, I'll try to keep this in mind, really appreciated!
/r/seduction03/07/19 02:47 AM
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So we discovered this around the same time, and I have a similar issue. I'm my case It's usually not lying, etc. But girls who are depressed, develop addiction, etc. I'm what is called a fixer. I never realized it but some upbringing stuff has me trying to help and fix people. It doesn't work out great for dating. Seeing a therapist could help with finding your reasons, and I read a book called no more mr nice guy which really helped me learn the patterns. I'm not entirely sure how to fix it, I'…
/r/seduction03/07/19 01:58 AM
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I said hi to a girl, and she grabbed my hand e and threw it across the room and yelling at me to fuck off and she'll fight me. Literally all I said was hi. I'm glad that she showed me how she is before I wasted anymore time. I just laughed it off and started talking to someone else
/r/seduction03/07/19 01:44 AM
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The more you do it the less nervous you will be. But even if you are nervous the important thing is acting even when you don't feel like it. And remember, its just a girl. What's the worst that happens, she's not interested? No big deal!
/r/seduction03/07/19 01:39 AM
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Try this as an experiment: go out and talk to some women with absolutely no intention to sleep/get their number/or anything from them. I bet your conversations will go a bit differently, and you'll enjoy it for what it is (just a conversation) instead of trying to gain something out of it. The fact you're trying to date them or whatever puts you in your head and you're not in the moment and present as you said.
/r/seduction03/07/19 01:30 AM
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You know what, you're absolutely right. I think, even though I was hooking up with multiple people I'm living in a scarcity mindset. Deep down I know I don't want that relationship (you should be excited about a relationship, which I'm not) but am afraid to lose what I have. The thoughts "what if I don't find someone else" creeps into my head, which is ridiculous.
/r/seduction27/06/19 05:26 PM
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I mean I'm trying, but it's just becoming a bit emotionally tiring. I feel like it's rare when I want a relationship, and it bothers me that I don't. I feel like this girl I'm not committing to I'm making a mistake and am losing my chance. But there's something in me that is stopping me from wanting to be bf/gf with this girl and I don't know what
/r/seduction27/06/19 02:06 PM
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Make a move! See what happens. If she's not into it then move on. If so, continue.
/r/seduction27/06/19 01:38 PM
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Just don't be weird about it if you get rejected. I've slept with plenty of friends before, mostly casual nothing serious, but one of my long term girlfriends started as a friend. Hell recently I suggested dating with a girl I'm friends with (mind you we've been sleeping together on and off), I was rejected, but whatever. Don't be weird about it and it won't be weird. Only issue is if you do start a relationship and then break up. That complicates things
/r/seduction25/06/19 04:16 PM
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"I've dated, but I never found a girl I was interested in enough to have a relationship with"
/r/seduction25/06/19 04:09 PM
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Doesn't necessarily mean you did anything wrong. Realize that sometimes it has absolutely nothing to do with you. She found someone else she thinks is better for her for whatever reason. She may be right, she may be wrong. It doesn't matter. This type of shit hurts the ego, but realize it doesn't mean this guy isn't any better than you. Internalize that. Say it out loud in front of a mirror. You are the same person with her or without her and you will be fine either way. Also you don't want to w…
/r/seduction24/06/19 08:03 PM
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This is usually in nightlife or meeting at a party. In this situation the goal isn't to long term date, it's to have fun TONIGHT. There's been one night stands I had where I never even asked for the girls phone number and don't have it to this day. It's a matter of you vibing with a girl, flirting heavily and then inviting her somewhere after the fact or switching venues quickly. Usually if you're making out before you go to someone's place, it just sort of naturally becomes a "let's go back to …
/r/seduction24/06/19 02:34 PM
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It's not accepting the standard. You cut them the fuck out of your life and don't let them return. You can't control how others act, but you can have your own boundaries
/r/seduction24/06/19 12:09 AM
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Yes by far. I've had girls be mean for no good reason at all. And honestly? I'm thankful. Let's me figure out their shit personality without me wasting any time. If you're a cool guy who isn't being a complete creep and just talking to a woman and they're nasty to you for no reason, then it tells you so much more about them than it does anything about you. Obviously some guys who can't take rejection and keep bothering a girl when they have made it clear they're not interested is a different sto…
/r/seduction22/06/19 10:50 PM
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Look at it this way. Let's pretend they reject you... So what? So fucking what? It doesn't change ANYTHING. it doesn't change who you are as a person. Worst that happens is they say no and you don't hang out. That's literally worst case scenario. Guess what? By not asking you're literally doing your WORST CASE SCENARIO. You can only go up from here. Even if everyone doesn't hang out, you can at least feel good about yourself that you fucking tried. And if someone doesn't want to hang? Fine, next…
/r/seduction22/06/19 10:45 PM
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Your job, your status isn't what is going to attract women. I've dated women while I was unemployed, etc. It's confidence. It's are you a fun person, does this girl have fun around you? Sure some women will only date a guy for status, but fuck that. You don't need those things to meet women, you're having limiting beliefs. What are your passions in life? What do you love to do? That's what women want in a man. What are your hobbies? You can meet women through that. Make friends, start talking to…
/r/seduction22/06/19 08:53 PM
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I really like this. Sometimes I get way too into my head even when I know I do fine talking to and dating women. I find myself hesitating a lot lately for no real reason. The only other thing I'd add: Have fun. This isn't supposed to be a chore it's supposed to be fun. Just have fun with it and let the chips fall where they may.
/r/seduction22/06/19 08:37 PM
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I'll try this, thanks
/r/seduction10/06/19 11:21 PM
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This is a good point. I'm not really sure why I get nervous. Because if I'm out at a bar or something chatting a girl I don't get nervous. It's only when I have to plan something or specifically meet up You're right though I don't get nervous when meeting friends or even people I'm hooking up with, it's just really when it's a first date.
/r/seduction10/06/19 11:21 PM
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Have you ever actually tried making a move on her? There could be a couple things going on: She's into you and jealous She's not into you enough to date but into you enough to sleep with She's not into you, but loves the attention and doesn't like the idea of you being with anyone else Make a move already, or call her out on it.
/r/seduction10/06/19 01:30 PM
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Just start a conversation. Don't even go out with the intention to hit on them at first. Just have a normal conversation about whatever (if you're at a bar just start talking to them about something happening there). Pretend they're guys and talk to them the same way you would any guy. You'll see they're just humans too.
/r/seduction10/06/19 02:13 AM
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I'm trying to. It's just exhausting at times
/r/seduction10/06/19 02:10 AM
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What helps me is just frame it. You're not trying to impress them, you're trying to see if they're a good fit for you.
/r/seduction10/06/19 02:10 AM
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Be honest. How many approaches have you made? How many do you make in any given day? You can be the hottest dude around you're still going to have to approach.
/r/seduction02/06/19 10:57 PM
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Thanks for the advice. Watched the video, shouldn't be too hard to flirt with others. Like I said I do have other girls interested in me so not the end of the world, and I know I can attract other girls as well if things don't work out with any of these girls
/r/seduction01/06/19 05:54 PM
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Thanks for the reply. You're right, I wasn't sure of myself because my confidence has been hit around this girl because I get way too into my head, I think because when she started to date this other guy I was rejected a bunch before I realized. At this point I'm not sure where I stand either. I guess I'll make my intentions more clear. Any other tips? I'm not too worried or the type of person who if I get rejected I'll be all upset or something/need to cut contact. Like I said I have other girl…
/r/seduction01/06/19 04:42 PM
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Yeah I definitely have been very up front with her, but the problem is I don't know how I feel. I'll have to think about it and try to figure it out
/r/seduction05/05/19 05:44 PM
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Thanks for the reply. Actually I do have the options, I just haven't been sleeping with them because I feel weird doing so when I've been hanging with her so much. I have a few girls who have been asking me to come over/hang out, but I think they're looking for a relationship too. getting out of a long term relationship last year, I still just don't feel ready to have a girlfriend just yet. I think I'm just worried about making a mistake by not giving it a shot, but I don't know if I want a rela…
/r/seduction05/05/19 05:44 PM
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Thanks for the indepth answers, I really appreciate it and helps put things in perspective. She actually did eventually come around and tell me that she started dating someone, so i was going to stop pursuing anyway after reading the tennis analogy, but this cements it. If things change she can hit me up, I'm not chasing. I was going to say why I think that she was hesitant to tell me, but I'm going to try and take your advice, and acknowledge it's not my job to figure out anything she's thinkin…
/r/seduction18/01/19 07:00 PM
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I appreciate the feedback. I guess it's because even when we did hook up I was always the one to initiate. She will want to hang or I'll see her out, and she'll hang out but when I'm alone with her (get away from friends, etc) and try to pursue she'll shoot it down. Again I don't mind if she's seeing someone else. The issue is I'm trying to figure out why she went cold on me all of a sudden and if there's anything I can do to fix it. From the looks of it there isn't. I made moves, got shot down.…
/r/seduction15/01/19 06:08 AM
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Stop analyzing, start acting. Say hi and talk to them. Women will very rarely be the ones to initiate. If you get a negative reaction pay it no mind
/r/seduction15/01/19 06:03 AM
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Maybe next time I see her I'll bring it up. Itb probably is not worth doing through text
/r/seduction15/01/19 01:36 AM
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They've reached out, but not to hook up. Again I'm not too worried if she started seeing someone and won't be devastated if she did, but would like to know if I should stop wasting my time and making moves. I see her semi regularly as we have a lot of mutual friends anyway, and I'm friends with her as well. I do need to pursue more options in general though.
/r/seduction15/01/19 01:35 AM
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You need to not live in the past so much. You can't change the past and it's all a journey. If it wasn't for those failures you wouldn't be learning about this stuff today. Unless you have a delorean to go back in time, just focus on what you can control
/r/seduction15/01/19 01:01 AM
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You're way too worried about messing up. You need to make a move and ask her out and be flirty otherwise you're gonna be seen as just a friend. Girls are pretty forgiving of moving too quickly if she's not interested, but let's put it like this. You're into this girl and You're not dating her now. Let's say you ask her to hang out, etc and she says no. You're still not dating her. The worst that happens is things stay the same. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
/r/seduction15/01/19 12:59 AM
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You're saying that because a woman isn't into you sexually and doesn't want to cheat on their bf, they're self-absorbed and stuck up? It might be your attitude which is causing women to be cold
/r/seduction13/01/19 02:47 PM
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I think the daughter is the one who is last minute. He had plans with his date but having the daughter crashes it. To op: I would just ask the woman to reschedule as you have to watch your daughter last minute. Things happen, and your daughter is priority.
/r/seduction13/01/19 08:41 AM
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If you expect to be turned down, it seeps into every interaction. Girls pick up on this. You need to try and reframe. Tell yourself it's their loss if they don't want to hang out with you. You're an awesome dude and they're missing out. It's tough, but you can't get outcome dependent
/r/seduction06/01/19 03:18 AM
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Who's telling you this? People in person or online? If online, then it's because we don't know what you look like but working out (or any exercise really) has been shown to improve confidence, mood, and health. If in person and it's friends of yours, they may be concerned about your health
/r/seduction01/11/18 01:50 AM
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I've been on this sub for a while, with an old username that has since been deleted, and when 100sets first formed. 100sets goal is to just do 100 approaches, it's not to get 100 dates like you say.
/r/seduction06/10/18 02:00 AM
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You don't want to do this. I know you think you do, but trust me, you don't. Unless you have heavy oneitis which I know you say you don't, but the post indicates otherwise, sleeping with a girl you live with and not in a relationship is a bad idea. Think about it like this, let's you don't want a relationship. Now you're bringing girls over and she could get real jealous if she does want one with you. Not going to be a fun situation. Let's say you do want a relationship and get in one with her. …
/r/seduction06/10/18 01:38 AM
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While I don't disagree with you in some cases, I feel like in other cases these women are actively pursuing a relationship with me though... Wanting to hang out, still wanting to make out, etc. You are right though that my baggage probably shines through currently and I'm sure that's a turn off that's detected
/r/seduction30/09/18 11:45 PM
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You're right, I think I completely fucked this one up. I honestly do think part of my hesitation is I'm pretty fresh out of a long term relationship, and it's taken not only a shot at my confidence, not I can't help but compare her to my ex in my head subconsciously and missing my ex (I'm not trying to get back together, in fact she wants to but I'm the one holding out). I definitely noticed I've been much more hesitant in making moves than I used to be, and lack the confidence as well. I try to…
/r/seduction30/09/18 10:48 PM
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I actually haven't been texting at all. I'll focus on the other stuff. Thank you
/r/seduction30/09/18 10:43 PM
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I'm in a similar situation coming out of a long term relationship, and it takes a on your confidence. Realize what it is: a mental block and self limiting belief. I feel the same way often which is ridiculous because I know I'm an attractive guy, have a lot to offer, etc. Do things that make you feel better about yourself. Go to the gym, do things you enjoy, be social. Stop using some number scale for attractiveness, have it either be yes or no. When you stop rating women you'll stop rating your…
/r/seduction30/09/18 10:11 PM
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How do I break out of this? You could be right.
/r/seduction30/09/18 09:59 PM
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I am doing that. Which is why we'll make out but maybe I'm not escalating enough
/r/seduction30/09/18 09:53 PM
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It's not every girl obviously. I've had my fair share of random hookups, but I've also had more than seems normal girls who try to make me their boyfriend and are more reluctant to just hook up, especially when I know they've casually hooked up before. It seems like if a girl is actually into you for relationships, and not all girls mind you, some tend to go slower.
/r/seduction30/09/18 09:53 PM
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Any advice on how to do this?
/r/seduction30/09/18 09:50 PM
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How do I do this?
/r/seduction30/09/18 09:50 PM
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I think you're worrying too much if you should be "mature" or "playful". Just do you, whatever you're feeling. You feeling playful? Then act that way. Stop trying to fit their mold and what you think they want. What do YOU want? Do you want a girl who can be playful or one who is mature all the time. My guess is your answer is somewhere in the middle. The same is true for most women. Most women want a guy who can be exciting but also ultimately has their shit together. It's not an either/or situ…
/r/seduction15/09/18 05:03 PM
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More importantly just assume they are until you're proven otherwise
/r/seduction14/09/18 07:09 AM
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Just go up to them and start talking to them. It doesn't need to be complicated... A simple: "hi you look fun. I'm thatguy"
/r/seduction14/09/18 12:32 AM
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Stop worrying about how people value you and worry about how you value yourself. Do things you enjoy, live a life you're proud of. That will give you confidence.
/r/seduction14/09/18 12:29 AM
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You're blowing yourself out, and making the Virgin thing a bigger deal than it is. You know the best way to lose confidence? To settle. To go after girls you're not all that attracted to, which it sounds like what you're doing. These women can't tell you're a virgin when you talk to them. I think you're getting in your head about it. I'm a bit older than you, but try to meet some girls in real life. The apps work for some people, but personally I hate them. I've had dates from them before but I …
/r/seduction14/09/18 12:23 AM
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Because there's much worse outcomes. For saying hello, I've had women be nasty for no reason, etc. Saying "sorry I have a boyfriend" is pretty benign.
/r/seduction07/09/18 09:41 PM
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No, none of the above. I don't know, it just made me feel empty and miss what I had with my ex quite honestly. And I'm not opposed to casual hookups when single, so it's not like I have some hang-up about it (done it plenty before).
/r/seduction04/09/18 08:45 PM
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Thank you, glad to hear you're doing better. I find if I start dating I just feel depressed. I think I'm just pushing myself too soon
/r/seduction03/09/18 07:21 PM
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I tried this, it made me feel pretty terrible truth be told
/r/seduction03/09/18 07:20 PM
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Thank you, sorry you've been through similar. Glad to hear you're doing better now
/r/seduction03/09/18 07:20 PM
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Thanks. It's just been really hard, and I don't feel like myself at all, I don't know how to explain it. I want to date and move on, but I don't at the same time. I'm just feeling depressed most days (even though I don't just stay home and sulk, forcing myself to be around friends, etc). Some days are worse than others. I guess 2 months after a 5 year relationship is expecting a lot from myself.
/r/seduction03/09/18 07:14 PM
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A girl saying they have a boyfriend isn't going horrible. Trust me on that one
/r/seduction03/09/18 06:28 AM
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No one is answering your question so I'll try and answer. If you want to, then make a move. You need to physically escalate, engage in them while talking, etc. Touching, etc. If you don't know how to escalate then you need to learn how to do that. Eventually go for the kiss if you're feeling it and you think she is too. If she rejects you, scale back. Invite her back to your place or see if she invites you over. Continue to escalate, scaling back if she's not feeling it. Remember, just because y…
/r/seduction30/08/18 05:09 AM
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What do you enjoy doing? Like sports? Sign up for some rec leagues. Enjoy acting? Get involved in your local theater. Take a class, you get the idea. Find something you like and meet people through that. Alternatively, you can go to Meetup.com or look at Facebook events near you
/r/seduction30/08/18 04:54 AM
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Nah I'm just teasing ya. It's overall a good list, that one just struck me as strange
/r/seduction01/08/18 03:54 AM
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Oh yeah I love putting girls I've just met in headlocks, then give them the ole stone cold stunner before dropping the people's elbow.
/r/seduction01/08/18 03:34 AM
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I don't have an opener. I just talk to them, usually about something going on around or whatever. If they're not interested, I'll move on to someone who is.
/r/seduction01/08/18 03:30 AM
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Every girl is different.
/r/seduction01/08/18 03:26 AM
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Oh yeah, I had people just tell me to fuck off when just saying hello, I had someone grab my hat and throw it across the room (again gave a simple hello), and had a girl legit try and fight me (again, gave a hello). Decided they were all clearly going through some shit or were just batshit insane. Regardless i simply walked away and hung out with cooler people.
/r/seduction01/08/18 03:25 AM
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Awesome, glad to hear it
/r/seduction20/07/18 09:40 PM
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You feel scared, and you do it anyway, DESPITE being nervous. Then regardless if you get rejected or not, you recognize you were able to act even if you're afraid. Too many people think being scared is a good enough excuse to not do something. It's ok to be nervous. Act anyway.
/r/seduction20/07/18 09:34 PM
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The saving world thing comes off as a bit try hard to me. Just try to set up a date with her, if she's into it, cool, if not, cool.
/r/seduction20/07/18 07:48 AM
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So the advice given here to guys is the same for women: abundance mentality. You can't make someone want more with you if they don't. The trick is to realize that there's plenty of guys out there who do want more with you, you just need to meet them. If you go in this when he's being upfront about his wants hoping you can change his mind, you're going to be set up for hurt
/r/seduction07/07/18 07:15 AM
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I know this comment is two months old, but it gives me hope that people in this community see it this way. I had a gorgeous married girl at the bar clearly try to get with me ("my husband's out of town, we can go hang out at my place, etc") and I just couldn't bring myself to do it. After trying all night, she finally gave up and went with some other dude. Maybe I'm a chump since she was clearly going to cheat anyway, but I just feel like I can't bring myself to sleep with someone in a committed…
/r/seduction07/07/18 07:10 AM
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Thanks for the advice. I'm not trying to get back with my ex or anything (she's actually tried but nothing will change so I didn't), and I tried the rebound route but it didn't really help at all and made me feel worse. I think I need to hold off for the time being until I'm ready.
/r/seduction04/07/18 03:17 PM
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Well. That's not inspiring. I've been through breakups before though and always bounced back, but this one is a bit different. Hope you do better for yourself soon
/r/seduction04/07/18 06:52 AM
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You're way over thinking this. Also look at it from the girl's perspective... You're alone, on a street at night and the only two around. She doesn't know you. Unfortunately there are a lot of shit stain men out there who are a threat to woman's safety. Don't take it personally, it has nothing to do with you as a person regardless of the reason she crossed
/r/seduction04/07/18 06:49 AM
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Loud environments aren't really the place to start convos. If it's too loud I'll often say something like "I'm going to go outside, come hang out"
/r/seduction04/07/18 06:46 AM
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Thanks, I definitely appreciate the advice, this is exactly what I'm looking for. I haven't been trying to hook up with anyone and I almost feel bad about not trying but I got out of a 5 year relationship about a month ago so definitely not ready
/r/seduction04/07/18 03:42 AM
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Honestly dude you need to stop making this incel shit a part of your identity. You hate women because you don't have a girlfriend? That's the core of your problem right there. Remember, the true self always shines through. If you hate women, it's going to come up with your interactions with women. You need to realize women don't owe you anything. Zip. Nada. And you need to stop placing such an importance on women. You're using women as a measure for your self worth. Gain confidence and self wort…
/r/seduction03/07/18 04:08 PM
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Hey I appreciate it, question for you: my confidence has been shot for some reason lately since the breakup. What did you do to get it back?
/r/seduction03/07/18 04:03 PM
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Eh I don't necessarily agree. I've been in long term relationships before this as well. Doesn't make the sting any less, but still.
/r/seduction26/06/18 02:18 AM

Hey thanks, I really appreciate the in depth advice. You nailed it about going through the motions, I wasn't into it at all but thought maybe it would help me get over everything quicker... made me feel worse. As far as the info from 5 years ago creating a relationship that would blow up in your face, the stuff I always took from my time in this sub was always the inner game stuff, and never any of the tactics people use. More that women want to be approached, it's not a huge deal if they reject…
/r/seduction25/06/18 04:18 PM
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Thank you, really appreciated. You're right I guess it's kind of ridiculous to think I can just be over such a long term relationship in a couple weeks.
/r/seduction25/06/18 04:02 PM
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Thanks for the advice, I think you're right that it might just be a matter of time. I'll just do what I want for the time being and focus on myself. Glad you're happy now with your current partner
/r/seduction25/06/18 04:00 AM
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