On Dec 28, 2009, Prime, of the Beta Revolution blog found on WordPress.com, says the following about your humble scribe:
“Not that the opinions of Negroes matter much in the long run (joke), but Obsidian’s had some well-articulated postings of late, two of my favorite being:
http://theobsidianfiles.wordpress.com/2009/12/24/what-have-atheists-ever-done-for-anybody/
I actually read through the entirety of the comments on each and was both dismayed and mayed, mayed by the atheists and dismayed by the HBDers (who I now like to call biorealists , myself being one) who weren’t really up to answering Obsidian’s very incisive remarks. I think I can, however, but it will take some “unpacking” as the postmodernist, hippy, enviro-librl, queermo professors of humanities like to put it.”
Yea, tell me about it-I’ve been waiting like, forever, for OneSTDV and the HBD Crowd to get back to me on my rather novel idea. For his part, One says the following in the comments:
“ember 2009 at 5:39 pm
@ mike:
I also enjoy his “you’re a white nerd who can’t get laid”.
The guy is an absolute clown and possibly the most dishonest debater I’ve ever encountered, which includes young-earth creationists. Not to mention he’s incredibly childish. What grown man stoops to 5th grade insults when discussing politics?!”
Somehow, I get a distinct sense of irony there; consider the source, hmm?
Speaking of OneSTDV, over the past month or so, he’s been featuring HBD commenter and guest blogger The Undiscovered Jew and his thoughts on the problem of what he terms “Smart Fraction Fertility”. Recently he proposed bringing the latest cutting edge in medical science and technology to bear on the problem; since smarter White Women tend to have kids later, simply make it so the eggs stay fresher longer, as well as making it so a Woman can successfully withstand the birth process well into her 40s and beyond on the regular.
From what I’ve read thus far at One’s place, it doesn’t seem that his “solution” was all that warmly received. Hmm.
At any rate, this is what I said over at Prime’s Beta Revolution blog, in the comments; I compare both my plan and TUJ’s-which is the better, sounder plan, and why?
“Hello Prime,
It’s nice to see you and others duck and dodge my central point-that not only are the “Biorealist” crowd hypocrites, but they refuse to deal with the central theme in all of this-which is the idea of American Freedom and Invidualism.
Let me explain.
The HBD crowd says, that all problems will be solved if only those NAMs stopped breeding. Now, as FeministX noted on my blog when I first posted my bid to give you guys what you want, that in truth the overall Black birthrate has fallen quite considerably, due in the main to widespread availability of abortions-something one would think HBDers like you and OneSTDV would be cheering about. According to stats on the subject, the current Black birthrate closely mirrors that of most Whites in America, about 2 kids or so, on average. And this rate falls the more education the Black couple, especially the Woman, has (sounds familiar to TUJ’s “fertility extension argument”).
Not only that, but Welfare Reform has been proven to be a huge success, in large part because it has put hard time limits that a person can be on it, which has an impact on them having kids, intentionally or otherwise. This again, actually helps the position of the HBD crowd-in truth, NAMs-Blacks anyway-are having fewer kids, accross the board. Welfare Reform and Abortion, have played a big role in this. It’s documented.
But that’s only one side of the equation-in order to raise the “smart fraction” of White births, we need to have some kind of incentives in order to convince smart White Women to have babies. Now, let’s compare TUJ’s recent “fertility extension” scheme, to my modern day Deliberate Eugenics Program. We’ll do mine first:
The USA gov’t announces that it will pay for the full tuition, medical and daycare costs, for any White Woman (Jews would be excluded) between the age of 18 and 25 who passed the IQ test with a score of 120 or above, to any Ivy or Big State university of her choice, provided she agreed to be fixed up with the highest IQ White Males on each campus. This would be arranged by the Admissions Officers, who would in essence the University Match Makers. The White Males would only be selected from the Hard Sciences Departments of each school-Computer Science, Astrophysics, Mechanical Engineering, that sort of thing. NO Humanities guys allowed. This will ensure that these guys get laid, and fixed up with gals who come from similar backgrounds etc as well.
In exchange for full tuition etc, the Women agree to mate with the Men selected for them, and birth no less than three kids each, by or before they hit 30 years of age. In my scheme, age is the key, because as we all know, Women in general, and White Women in particular, really have a tough time of it on average, safely having babies at this age. We want to ensure minimal defects and complications, so we need to get em young, which is how you White guys like em anyway.
Now, in TUJ’s scheme, high-tech is called to solve the problem-it not only will harvest “fresh” eggs and freeze them for storage to be used at a later date, but medical science will also extend the life quality of a Woman’s childbearing age well into her 40s, 50s, or even beyond. Moreover, in addition to having babies safely at significantly older ages, gov’t incentives like lower income taxes, reduced loan fees and daycare assistance could be offered as well. In this way, TUJ asserts, the Smart Fraction Whites will just naturally gravitate toward having the kids on their own-they simply need the technology and tax incentives to clear the lane.
OK, now…
Both plans present some very interesting problems. Let’s take mine first.
Now, my program can definitely work-afterall, if a kind of coercsive plan can be brought to bear on NAMs to lower their birthrate, surely the same can be done in reverse on the Right End of the Bell Curve to raise the Smart White birthrate-but here’s the trick. For HBers, since NAMs are dumber and need guidance anyway, basically “telling” then what to do is OK; that sort of thing doesn’t really fly with them personally because, hey, they’re *smarter*. See? They can figure it all out once the NAMs are outta the way.
OK, but here’s the thing-how many smart White Women, would actually go along with my plan-even when they have guarantees from the US gov’t that their education will be paid for, all the way through to PhD level? Answer-not many. Why? Because to this very same cohort of Women, Reproductive Rights are seen as sacrosanct, and my plan would in essence, piss on that, but it would bring the Smart White birthrate up. Bottomline: White Women simply don’t care about having babies that bad, they want to screw, get cushy jobs and enjoy a SATC lifestyle, at least for a little while. And they definitely ain’t going for their Admissions Officer fixing them up with goofy, socially inept and clueless Jeremy, who’s weird and nerdified. By and large, Women don’t care if you have an IQ that rivals Steve Hawking’s-thats something only other nerdy White guys care about, in the main.
Now on TUJ’s side, there are problems there, too. Even assuming that all that he proposes could work, there’s still the little problem of how many White guys are gung ho for doing the deed to a 40 or 50 year old White Cougar. If what we can see online in terms of porn, Game and the like are any indication, no White guy with options is gonna wanna do that. So that’s one thing.
The other is, how many White Women would opt to have say, 3 kids, starting in her late 30s? Even if she could so safely, and even if she could find a Man or Men who’d be willing to be Daddy, knock her up, etc, there’s still the issue of dealing with those kids as they grow up-and as Meep over at One’s blog tried to explain to the childless TUJ, it’s no small feat for a Woman in her upper 30s and beyond to deal with small kids. Something tells me that at best, most Women who make use of this high tech will be a one and done deal.
In the end, as I’ve tried to tell OneSTDV before, Nature has its tradeoffs. For the Smart White folks, it means a decreased fertility, no matter how you slice it. The guys aren’t deemed sexy by the gals, and the gals have better things to do than making like Alice Kramden or Mrs. Brady or June Cleaver. Hence, bringing down the NAM birthrate, at least as far as Blacks are concerned, is only really a smokescreen, high cognitive way of scapegoating, because again, the facts simply don’t square with what the HBD crowd’s saying. In the end, Smart White People are literally, dying out.
And they’ve no one to blame, but themselves, for that.
But if anyone out there thinks they can give a reasoned response, by all means, holla back
The Obsidian”
Indeed-holla back!
The Obsidian
