In the wake of the Elliot Rodger shooting, I've seen lots of people talking about theredpill, and sometimes comparing it mensrights and MRAs. I'm an MRA and I'd like to clarify the distinction between the two.

librtee_com · 2014-05-25T17:15:30+00:00

he was a nice person and thus deserved sexual attention from women. He believed that being nice made him entitled to sex. This is a common belief among redpillers. This is NOT a common belief among MRAs.

Thats not a red pill belief either. The red pill belief is that the men that think that are wrong and deluded by Disney fairly tales and female to male dating advice, and need to be taught otherwise.

MRSPArchiver · 2014-05-25T17:08:42+00:00

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OsoFeo · 2014-05-25T17:40:03+00:00

I think you fail to completely understand what TRP is about.

On the surface you're correct, there is a focus on sex and the fact that women are somehow less angelic than typically presented by mass media and most of our institutions in the West. And therefore the discussions come off as superficial and sometimes angry. However, what you're not seeing is that TRP is a space where men (mostly young men) can explore what it means to be a man in relation to women, stripped away from most of the lies that are told about the inherent goodness of women and free from shaming that is typical of men who dare to have their inner emotional lives taken seriously. [BTW I'm not saying women are "evil", simply that women and men harbor the same potential for evil, that women's bad behavior is typically ignored and excused, and often uses strategies that are different from and unavailable to men.] Can this result in ugly statements? Absolutely. But there are plenty of female spaces online that will crudely objectify men as essentially wallets and characterize all men as evil. Not that this behavior should be emulated, but it is understandable.

MRM and TRP do have something very fundamental in common: an insistence that men's inner lives be taken seriously and not made to conform to an impossible standard set up by feminists. MRM addresses this from the external, societal point of view, focusing on legal issues and media representation. TRP approaches this from an internal point of view, focusing on an understanding of how women typically react to men and how to take advantage of that understanding, whether it be for an LTR or acquisition of multiple sex partners.

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