Sorry, Guys: You've Gone the Way of the Dodo (but you will be adjusted into the post-male era).

2014-01-03T02:03:51+00:00

I'm obsolete? Can I quit my job and depend solely on my wife then? That would make my life easy.

2014-01-03T02:05:10+00:00

I love how this article just assumes that masculinity has always deen about "entitled to power, destined for leadership, arrogant, confused by anything that isn't them" or that women in the past were never violent.

plebbitor · 2014-01-03T03:13:39+00:00

Hanna rosin - not even once.

DownShatCreek · 2014-01-03T04:16:29+00:00

It's nice that she speaks so fondly of her son, with such great ambition for his future.

everyone_hates_you_ · 2014-01-03T05:35:07+00:00

This "men are obsolete" shit reeks of genocidal intent.

When's the last time you had something that was obsolete and useless that you just kept around.

Rosin is a fucking evil bitch.

2014-01-03T09:37:10+00:00

I found it especially enlightening when she spoke about keeping the parts of masculinity the they liked and reforming the parts that they didn't like.

If men spoke like that about women, there would be hell to pay.

Imagine ...

"We find some parts of modern femininity to be useful to us and therefore tolerable; but those parts which do not serve our needs and ends will have to be bent to accommodate our notions of what you should do to serve us."

That would get so splattered, so fast. Hanna Rosin clearly demonstrates the sense that women feel to control/ manipulate/ shape the men around her, to meet her needs. If that isn't entitlement and gynocentrism, then I don't know what is.

Valid_Voice · 2014-01-03T06:49:19+00:00

Did anyone else read the article in a bitchy girls voice.

Crimson_D82 · 2014-01-03T04:38:44+00:00

Bullshit from start to end.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2014-01-03T16:58:56+00:00

For one thing, the traditional "male breadwinner" household is being obliterated as an "alpha wife" emerges, particularly in working and middle class families. Female wages are rising as men's fall, and women are nabbing 60% of college degrees.

BUT BUT BUT Remember, on any discussion about helping men we need to point out that the wage gap is a real thing and men are paid twice what a woman would be paid for the same work. Even if that means simultaneously arguing that women are better because they're being paid more.

"If [my son] chooses to take his kids to a playground at 3 in the afternoon on a Tuesday, no one will look at him funny ... they will just walk on by and not think anything of it at all. He can be his own lovely obnoxious self and also be at home in a new world.

Kind of a shitty thing to say about her kid but yeah. Sure let's work to end this notion that men being around children are defacto pedophiles.

But how exactly are feminists doing that at all?

DaveDodo007 · 2014-01-03T17:42:26+00:00

Way ahead of you on the whole Dodo thing, can I be king. :-)

2014-01-03T13:02:55+00:00

http://ozconservative.blogspot.com/2014/01/hanna-rosin-why-men-are-obsolete.html

But in order to win this debate we have to prove that men, quote unquote, as we’ve historically come to define them — entitled to power, destined for leadership, arrogant, confused by anything that isn’t them. As in: “I don’t understand. Is it a guy dressed up like a girl? Or a girl dressed up like a guy?” They are obsolete.

She is defining men through her own agenda. Her agenda is a feminist one of having women in positions of power. Therefore, she sees traditional manhood in terms of whatever hinders this, i.e. as men being "entitled to power, destined for leadership, arrogant" (she wants this mantle to pass to women).

The working class feels the end of men the most, as men lose their jobs and lose their will to be fathers, and women do everything alone, creating a virtual matriarchy in the parts of the country that used to be bastions of good old macho country music style values. Why don’t these women marry or live with the fathers of their children? As many a woman told me, “He’d be just another mouth to feed.”

I really have to shake my head at this. Are we supposed to cheer on as a progressive outcome the destruction of family life amongst the working and middle classes? Are we supposed to think that those women going it alone now have more "power" relative to men? It seems to me that they are just living more difficult lives in a more dysfunctional social setting. No wonder that average life expectancy for poorer white women in the US is significantly decreasing.

This doesn't prove that men are obsolete at all - it shows what happens when a society fails to uphold the role of men within the family.

It’s the end of men because men have lost their monopoly on violence and aggression...Women are becoming more sexually confident, and something Camille Paglia has been waiting for, more aggressive and violent.

Again, it's as if Rosin is taking a crude model of masculinity and wanting women to be its new standard-bearer. It is a sign of female "power," thinks Rosin, that they are becoming more aggressive and violent.

When I think of the world after the end of men, I think of the world my son will inherit, where, if he chooses to take his kids to a playground at 3 in the afternoon on a Tuesday, no one will look at him funny, no one will wonder if he’s out of work, no one will think, “What a loser,” and no one will think he’s from Portland or Toronto, they will just walk on by and not think anything of it at all. He can be his own lovely obnoxious self and also be at home in a new world.

Will she really bring up her son to be "his own lovely obnoxious self" without any concern for his status in the marriage market? Well, I'll believe it when I see it. That's not how Rosin's social class generally operates.

AlfredTheGreatest · 2014-01-03T16:14:25+00:00

Does this mean you don't need my tax money anymore?

sillymod · 2014-01-03T05:10:22+00:00

I say we get our brothers on forchan to cook up something unpleasant for this woman. This is hatespeech plain and simple. If the pronouns were reversed this would be hugely controversial but because she is a woman, she gets to say this. THAT is sexism boys.

EDIT: seriously id like to hear about some internet prank on this woman. Try to keep it tasteful, and don't fall into her trap unkleman is right though it shouldn't be anything hurtful

Title	Sorry, Guys: You've Gone the Way of the Dodo (but you will be adjusted into the post-male era).
Author	Vtwinman
Upvotes	33
Comments	23
Date	January 3, 2014 12:15 AM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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