Can we discuss this video?

kinghfb · 2012-10-14T05:28:36+00:00

For the third time in a week? Probably not. The opposition leader is a complete twat and treats women the same way they were treated in the 50s.

If you're trying to make a Men's Rights point, you've probably picked the wrong video for it. She's completely in the right here.

Source: I'm an Australian that follows politics.

EDIT: Because there are a number of replies in here asking what is going on (and also spouting some seriously misinformed opinions), here is the actual story:

There was a motion to remove the speaker of the house for some text messages to another MP. The content of the messages involved the words "mussels" and "clams" and was apparently sexist. I can let you guess the rest.

Basically, the motion put forward is complete hogwash. You can't dismiss a speaker just like that, especially when there are already systems in place to investigate and rule on inappropriate conduct. The PM was defending the speaker purely on the grounds that removing him would constitute setting a dangerous precedent ("I will not let this parliament turn into a kangaroo court"). Obviously, the opposition saw this as "defending sexism", which is of course bullshit because the opposition leader is arguably the most sexist, misogynistic shitstain in Australian politics right now.

It was a dirty political move to begin with (done to attack government majority), and the opposition leader's speech that preceded this was completely terrible and consisted of nothing but condescension, snide political attacks, thinly-veiled sexism, and a couple of poor-taste phrases (now regarded as gaffes).

I should also note that the very person that the opposition is slagging off at has been approached to vote with them in parliament. Classy.

Ortizjoel21 · 2012-10-13T22:58:03+00:00

A woman pulling that victim card, that's nothing new.

T-rex_with_a_gun · 2012-10-14T06:03:06+00:00

can someone give me the TLDR of what the issue was about?

kittenmoon2 · 2012-10-13T22:59:33+00:00

Typical feminist bullshit. Ignoring science that pretty much proves the male ministers views, and at the same time taking quotes out of their context and doing a guilt-by-association.

TracyMorganFreeman · 2012-10-14T18:14:31+00:00

"Controversial statement seemingly out of context"

then yada yada yada

Misogyny!

I want to see the whole transcript please.

I was very offended.

Good for you. Nothing changes when you get offended. Make an argument for why his actions are not the best course, or present an alternative.

Victim cards, victim cards everywhere.

All we've heard from him.

No, all you've said about him. Sampling bias, population you.

The speaker must be because that suits my political purpose

Pot. Kettle.

Hasn't apologized to me.

WTF is this, gradeschool?

Always wonderful about lecturing people about what to take responsibility for.

Hypocrisy

Here's the fun thing about accusing people of hypocrisy like she is: It doesn't render their point incorrect. Someone telling you it's a good idea to wear sunscreen isn't suddenly false if they personally refuse to do so.

I don't know the details of her claims so I don't know if her timeline lines up with her accusations, but her tactics are manipulative and par for the course in politics, and debate in general. Whatever motion was filed, personal attacks are irrelevant to the veracity of the motion.

Liverotto · 2012-10-14T07:56:32+00:00

Demagogues demagoguering demagogy.

Title	Can we discuss this video?
Author	gadimus
Upvotes	4
Comments	10
Date	October 13, 2012 10:44 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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