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All-female Men's Rights law office in Reno/Tahoe

RobVegas

September 16, 2012

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Title	All-female Men's Rights law office in Reno/Tahoe
Author	RobVegas
Upvotes	18
Comments	21
Date	September 16, 2012 10:06 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/zzoc3/allfemale_mens_rights_law_office_in_renotahoe/
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[–]Jesus_marley 19 points20 points21 points 13 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Jesus_marley 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree that it is frustrating that they they have a stronger voice than most men do. To be honest though, in our current climate, where men are summarily dismissed, it is also not at all surprising. I, for one welcome any and all allies. It is important to go after the problem itself though and not those who may have a stronger voice because of it. In terms of rights movements, we are in our infancy. Men are only now starting to wake up to the injustices and as such, it will take time for our voices to be heard. Entire generations have grown up indoctrinated to the belief that men do not have valid voices. That won't change overnight, nor will many people be receptive to the messenger even if they may be to the message. As such, any woman who joins our cause and will use their voice where ours won't be heard is a good thing. It IS a problem that we have no voice of our own.... yet. but that will change with time and effort.

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[–]Jesus_marley -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

To a co-ed office, yes. Not to an all-female office.

Why? If they are all there by merit, then what is the issue?

Must I agree that of all possible applicants, the only qualified fighters for mens' rights causes are women?

You don't have to agree with anything. Personally I see it as a non-issue. Especially in what appears to me to be a small private law firm. It's entirely likely that they all formed the firm together as partners or friends. I'll admit It's speculation on my part, but I'm not going to assign nefarious sexism to a private business because they all have va-jay-jays.

Also, why do you see it as giving power, as a man, to women instead of giving money, as a client, to lawyers,

Lawyers argue cases which (often, not always) set or buffet precedents. If I have it in mind to sue someone or defend myself, it's probably for a reason greater than the case immediately at hand.

You are free to go that route, if that's what you want. I for one will go with a professional if I need to get something done.

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[–]Jesus_marley 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Actually, that's what you argued. You argued that they are all there by merit. They are all female. Therefore, there are no male persons who could qualify to be there by merit.

No. I said "IF they were there by merit, then what is the issue?" The point being that you assumed that they were not there by merit. Apparently because they are women.

Also the leaps in your logic are Olympic in their greatness. Assuming for a moment that the firm is not 5 equal partners, it is entirely possible that 5 female lawyers successfully out performed any male applicants that may have applied for the positions. I find it rather disturbing that you would assume that women are incapable of succeeding on merit. Being an MRA whose lists as a goal to see actual equality, based upon merit and not affirmative action programs, I am unwilling to jump to the base conclusion that every single instance where a male is not represented is a matter of sexism. In instances of active male exclusion I will fight against it, but I will not assume that every instance of male under representation is such a case.

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[–]Jesus_marley -2 points-1 points0 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I questioned your premise that they were there by merit.

it was never a "premise" it was a possibility and I phrased it as such. I am more than willing to change my viewpoint regarding them, superficial as it is. I just won't do so without reason.

I find it curious that 100% of the persons who excelled are female.

OK. You can do that.

I'm also wary because of their linked humor page (which I consider good reason to think this whole thing is a troll)

That too is entirely possible. It could be an elaborate hoax, or it could be legit. Going back to my original post, if it is legit, I have no issue with them.

Their first joke is that men's brains are in their pants. And yet I'm supposed to assume that they'll take my right seriously?

As I said, My viewpoint was purely speculative. I didn't go into an in depth investigation as I didn't see reason to do so. I said it's a good thing if they're on our side and I don't care if they're women. Your initial response was surprisngly angry yet provided no context for it beyond them being female. I hope you can understand why I questioned such a poor attitude.

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