And nobody likes nazis anymore either.

triple-it · 2012-07-03T23:37:01+00:00

Kind of weird to see you write an article on this when just weeks ago you were caught manipulating that Skepticon video in order to make a woman look bad so you could justify calling her a sociopath. It's best to just be honest.

2012-07-03T22:13:27+00:00

I admit to a dislike of women..

I stopped reading there. Why do you hate women?

Just kidding John.

A year ago, I wrote an article focusing on the necessary public repudiation of violence, and the responsibility of open opposition to those who advocated or promoted a climate of acceptable violence, including those who openly advocate murder, such as a group of swedish feminists, and eugenics advocates on the squalid radical-hub. Statements from my original piece were quoted by at least one amoral zombie, and reframed to present my view as one which called for violence.

You really do advocate for violence and the facilitation of it through the advocacy of throwing these people to the wolves. Invasion of privacy is also a criminal act.

I have always believed that the path of least bloodshed is always where justice lies. If only you would see that and walk with those of us who completely reject any and all violence or the facilitation of violence.

Grapeban · 2012-07-03T19:01:26+00:00

Oh what's this? John the Other has written an article complaining about quote mining? Why ever might he have done this? What could possibly have provoked him?

On a less sarcastic side, I see that you are still bitter about that time I attacked you several months ago. In the interests of settling old disputes, I will revisit the line which I claim implied racism and homophobia on your part.

When men are not expected to die without complaint any time higher gas prices make it inconvenient for soccer moms to drive from their gated community to the local grass pitch, or any other time men’s utility trumps their humanity, well then maybe I’ll entertain the usefulness of keeping the gays or the darkies out of the club house. On the other hand, maybe I’ll still think it’s a stupid argument. But I do know that for a so called men’s rights movement to marginalize men based on who they want in their bed – well, it’s beneath us.

Hmm, I've quoted the entire paragraph, including the line you claim salvages it, and I still stand by my statements. Let's look at the problems.

Firstly, referring to gay people and black people as "gays or the darkies". But I'm willing to let that slip, it might be an ironic joke?

Secondly, you make it clear that, even if you aren't entertaining the argument, it would be possible to keep gay and black men out of the movement. This implies that the MRM "club house" is led by white, straight men.

Thirdly, "maybe" it's a stupid argument? What's with the indecision John, why are you even considering this?

Fourthly, and so far you have stubbornly refused to even comment on this, why do you say:

But I do know that for a so called men’s rights movement to marginalize men based on who they want in their bed – well, it’s beneath us.

when it is demonstrable that the website you edit is run by and read by, among other things, blatant transphobes?

Edit: and for someone who clearly doesn't like ad hominen attacks John (evidence: "Some opponents of human rights are so adept at this that along with a degree of snark, so heavy handed it borders on self-parody, the quote-mine supported ad-hominem has become a signature move." along with other things written in that vile essay you authored a few days ago), you certainly are fond of them, since you're very happy to call "quote miners" "bottom feeders" and call me a "sniveller" and "scum".

memymineown · 2012-07-03T18:45:49+00:00

This isn't a problem now but it will be in the future. The most popular MRAs need to start watching their words very carefully.

Title	And nobody likes nazis anymore either.
Author	johntheother
Upvotes	4
Comments	14
Date	July 3, 2012 6:41 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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