Secret Recording: Utah Adoption Agencies Cutting Fathers Out of Process, Offering Cash to Mothers

carchamp1 · 2012-05-21T15:29:46+00:00

Unbelievable! No, on second thought, this is pretty much what I expect these days.

You can be sure that if people were conspiring to keep mothers out of their kids' lives this would already be in the national headlines. It will be interesting to see how much traction this gets in the national media.

TOUGH_LOVE_GAL · 2012-05-21T18:22:56+00:00

So long as the LDS dominate state legislative roles (They are estimated to have about 80% of the state house and senate), men will continue to get the shaft when it comes to family-related legislation. Belief that women are ordained to bear and raise children is baked into their core belief sets.

Collective82 · 2012-05-21T15:23:39+00:00

nice find!

mk262 · 2012-05-21T19:44:56+00:00

This seems like the kind of thing where some shafted father is going to kill someone.

DougDante · 2012-05-23T00:12:58+00:00

I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

These agencies are almost certainly receiving federal funds under 42 USC § 629.

Possible crimes include wire fraud, mail fraud, conspiracy, and honest services fraud (18 U.S.C. Chapter 63 - several sections), Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law (18USC § 242), and they may be attempting to tamper with witnesses (18 USC §1512), destroy or alter evidence (18 USC § 1506), retaliate against witnesses (18 USC § 1513), or otherwise to obstruct justice, this could be considered a Conspiracy Against Rights (18 USC §241), and discrimination based on gender in government services funded by federal taxdollars may be a federal felonies under both 42 U.S.C. § 3789d(c)(1) and 18 USC § 241.

These fathers will NEVER get their children back, termination of parental rights has been called the civil equivalent of the death penalty, and parenting is a long recognized fundamental liberty interest.

These criminals should rot in jail. The question is, will anyone enforce the law?

chavelah · 2012-05-21T18:22:12+00:00

Some 29 states have a putative father registry that is designed specifically to deny unmarried fathers the right to contest the adoption of their children. They do so via the legal conceit that, when a man has sexual intercourse, he’s deemed to know that a child can result from it.

Legal conceit? That would be common sense. If your former sex partner drops off the face of the earth, and you want to coparent with her and/or contest her adoption plan, signing up on a registry is not an unreasonable expectation to put on a single man.

Title	Secret Recording: Utah Adoption Agencies Cutting Fathers Out of Process, Offering Cash to Mothers
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Date	May 21, 2012 1:59 PM UTC (14 years ago)
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