Are men and women equal? If so/not.. do they deserve equal rights?

2012-05-15T16:04:15+00:00

Equal, same rights, same responsibilities.

2012-05-15T16:03:26+00:00

Yes, they are both equal. Yes, they both deserve exactly the same rights.

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2012-05-15T16:42:16+00:00

Men and women are different but equal objectively. It's subjectively where equality gets skewed.

Anyone who lives up to the equal responsibilities of equal rights absolutely deserves them. I make the assumption you're not speaking of inalienable rights.

The_Patriarchy · 2012-05-15T16:45:47+00:00

I think men and women, as distinct classes, are equally capable (barring certain biological differences). And I believe men and women should have the same rights, and opportunities...not because they deserve anything¹ , but because I believe it most benefits our society² .

1 - I don't believe in objective value/etc. so no one really deserves anything.

2 - If more people have the opportunity to fulfill their potential, more people would actually fulfill that potential, and we'd have more scientists/etc. to benefit society.

AntiFeministMedia · 2012-05-15T17:05:15+00:00

Women have 'equality' and even superiority in the law.

But socially they will come to be seen as second-class citizens because of their behaviour. You cannot legislate for what other people think.

and untill womens behaviour is changed to not only benefit themselves, but not harm other people around them, or society itself, they will be seen as a problem. If womens behaviour does change for the better, it wont be women themselves that make the change (because I dont think they are capable) its going to have to be government, but I dont see that happening either.

Demonspawn · 2012-05-15T16:20:28+00:00

Are men and women equal?

No, but they can be roughly equal. But that's not the way the egalitarians want it (exactly equal).

Do they deserve equal rights?

If and only if they have equal responsibilities.

Can women have equal responsibilities?

If and only if society sees women as disposable as they see men.

Does society see women and men as equally disposable?

Fuck no.

So equal rights.....?

Without equal responsibilities, which is impossible because of the lack of equal disposability, more rights with less responsibilities is a system known as moral hazard and will ultimately cause the poisoning of society and it's eventual downfall.

Kinda like what we're experiencing today?

Yep. Welcome to how liberalism (society accepting "equality" as a goal) destroys society.

Title	Are men and women equal? If so/not.. do they deserve equal rights?
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Upvotes	1
Comments	7
Date	May 15, 2012 3:57 PM UTC (14 years ago)
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