I wasn't even looking for feminist propaganda, but I ended up finding it anyway while doing a search on an unrelated matte

Demonspawn · 2012-03-21T08:47:10+00:00

The problem is that the average person has no understanding of the the full scope of biological differences between men and women. One of the most important, and directly applicable to this article, is that males have larger standard deviations than females.

Of course, people don't understand this because if you dare to bring it up you'll be railroaded. Just ask Larry Summers.

Subversive · 2012-03-21T09:33:54+00:00

The whole argument is built on a false dichotomy:

We can obviously conclude that something is wrong. Either women can’t work as well as men (which we know it’s not correct) or women are treated different than men for work.

Just off the top of my head I can think of a couple of plausible alternative explanations:

Fewer women are interested in a design career.
Women are less inclined to take the kind of big risks that might get them onto that list.

Now, I'm not saying either of those explanations is in any way true, but a rational argument requires that you at least consider all possibilities before drawing your conclusion.

IHaveALargePenis · 2012-03-21T05:44:13+00:00

We can obviously conclude that something is wrong. Either women can’t work as well as men (which we know it’s not correct) or women are treated different than men for work. Women have been treated as subordinates since prehistory, it’s understandable that it wouldn’t change suddenly. But it’s not suddenly anymore, it has passed about six thousand years since prehistory.

There have been many famous women throughout history. If what she says is true, then how did these women come about? Even today there are more famous and successful men than women, even while women represent the majority of college students, have affirmative action and women only programs in their favor. Perhaps it's not how women are treated, but what choices they make that affects them?

For example the most expensive college in the US is 29% male, but look at their faculty for STEM. They have more faculty in Dance/Visual Arts/etc than they have in their entire STEM curriculum. If the demand was there, why wouldn't this private for profit school provide these women with more STEM faculty? And if you think this is biased, look at BMC or other women's only colleges. Most non science related majors have more faculty than their entire STEM majors combined.

Something is obviously wrong, and it's women making bad choices in a constantly advancing, constantly changing world where competition and success go hand in hand.

Title	I wasn't even looking for feminist propaganda, but I ended up finding it anyway while doing a search on an unrelated matte
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Date	March 21, 2012 1:33 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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