Old Men; stop discounting our modern experience.

FenrirIII · 2011-11-22T13:04:20+00:00

I can really identify with this as I was raised the same way. My mom taught me to be a gentlemen, compassionate, and soft-hearted. My wife is not American, she comes from a much more traditional background with a hard life, so she doesn't understand why I'm not as aggressive as the men are where she's from. It's hard to explain and encapsulate just how F'd up we are as a nation because of the past generations. But I plan to show her this article and hope she gains some understanding. Thanks for the excellent post.

Sarstan · 2011-11-22T10:27:41+00:00

Wow, really nails it.
Both men and women got fucked by the previous generation.
Men are supposed to be sweet, loving, gentle, and passive, waiting for the woman to come to him and let him know her interests. Anything more aggressive makes you a pig, monster, rapist, and chauvenist.
Women are supposed to be aggressive, demanding, distrustful of men, and ready to boot him for the slightest transgression. Trusting, love, and following an age old female mentality will get you gutted by men and other women alike.

It's no wonder the genders are always at war with one another. We're so damned confused about what we are that we forget about what we want and what our desires actually shoot for. Ask a woman that's not vague about her interests (I want a nice guy that makes me laugh) or a deep feminist and you'll likely hear that she wants a man that's confident, takes control, and, in so many words, puts her in her place ultimately. Ask a man that's not sheepish about his interests nor pissed at women for mowing him down what he wants and you'll likely see him asking for something close to a classic housewife, be it working or non.

It's scary. In our quest to get equality, all we've done is destroyed the gender roles that most took comfort in.

ZzardozZ · 2011-11-22T10:27:25+00:00

You call this modern? Back in my day, modern was way cooler

Bobsutan · 2011-11-23T22:04:07+00:00

Pretty much hits the nail on the head. The world changed and women are free to ride the carousel. Either buck up and learn Game, or hope you "get lucky". The odds of that happening now are lower than ever though, at least until women slow down in their 30s.

chavelah · 2011-11-22T22:43:29+00:00

"You girls got lied to just as badly. While us boys were taught to be simpering feys, you got fed that hogwash of Grrrrl POWER! You were taught to be ashamed of your beauty, to distrust all men, to act abrasively, contrary to your own sweet nature. To compete in rough-and-tumble (Title IX) sports, to pursue academic careers, and the corporate office. That you should be ashamed of your nurturing side, your soft-hearted caring side, your ability to see the best in others, and to be supportive of those you loved."

WTF?

Sweet girls go to college. Sweet girls play sports. Sweet girls have careers.

And of course, some girls do none of the above and still aren't sweet, caring, or supportive, because they are fucking bitches by nature. No group of humans lacks a fucking-bitch subset.

This man is a jackass.

EDIT: Oh, this is by Aurini? Dude. This makes you sound like a jackass. Women are not sweet by nature. Women are not ANYTHING by nature, except complicated and flawed and human just like you. Capable of both great good and great evil, just like you. For reals.

Title	Old Men; stop discounting our modern experience.
Author	Aurini
Upvotes	8
Comments	21
Date	November 22, 2011 10:01 AM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/mlbj2/old_men_stop_discounting_our_modern_experience/
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