The Problem with Funfeminism.

zyk0s · 2011-04-24T17:05:35+00:00

If she chooses to roll with the malestream, in return she will get male approval. If she chooses to roll with funfeminism she will get some (more limited and highly conditional) male approval, quite a bit of male ridicule, and … ?

Not much else.

And here is where the author (who is a declared feminism) fails to see how what she terms "funfeminism" and her idea of "real" feminism aren't so much different. What women get with funfeminism or "real" feminism is moderate male approval AND female approval. She goes on:

Young women aren’t stupid. Faced with the above options, they know which one offers them a better deal under the patriarchy.

I would like to argue that unfortunately, yes, a lot of young women are stupid (sexism disclaimer: a lot of young men are as well), and their choice to act a certain way or ascribe to a certain ideology isn't exactly (at least for the most part) a well thought out decision, but rooted in how it makes them feel. It's all about feeling and emotions at the end of the day, and wether the average girl will go along with the sexy/bitchy attitude or the grrrrl power attitude is decided by how male and female attention balance out in the way they make her feel. If she is relatively pretty, she'll have much more potential for male attention and the gratification that comes with it. There's one other emotion in the balance: the feeling of doing something good and honorable, and repairing perceived injustices. If that and the gratification a girl may have while marching the slutwalk (or going to take back the night rallies, or having long conversations about how men suck and they're oppressed at the local cafe) with her girlfriends is more important, then she will lean towards the feminist side.

It's interesting to note that jocks and white knights follow a strikingly similar dynamic. Jocks get male approval, and interest from some girls, while white knights get a large approval among women, and the sense of doing The Right Thing.

2011-04-23T14:45:04+00:00

It's bizarre how these feminists blame their results on men. Nobody told them to seek male approval.

YIdothis · 2011-04-23T23:33:57+00:00

Interesting how she makes the claim that women think other women are stupid.. I did not see this as realistic, but if it is true, fucking-hell.. That shows a base expectation of inferiority in anyone outside of themselves. I won't go and assume this is true, but that kind of attitude really makes me do a double-take and wonder, what is lacking if the basic idea of human dignity is not present? Really what can be contributing so greatly to that idea?

Title	The Problem with Funfeminism.
Author	thetrollking
Upvotes	7
Comments	3
Date	April 23, 2011 10:03 AM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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