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FAQ 1C: Is Infanticide really punished differently according to the gender of the perpetrator in Canada?

kloo2yoo

March 2, 2011
7 upvotes
/r/MensRights

Yes:

the law:

http://www.canadiancrc.com/Infanticide-Criminal_Code_Canada_Offence.aspx

in practice:

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2011/03/02/17466161.html

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Title FAQ 1C: Is Infanticide really punished differently according to the gender of the perpetrator in Canada?
Author

kloo2yoo

Upvotes 7
Comments 7
Date March 2, 2011 7:25 PM UTC
(15 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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[+][deleted] 15 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

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[–]zyk0s 2 points3 points4 points 15 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Infanticide is when a mother kills her own, recently born child. Anything else (death caused by the father, a nanny, a relative or a stranger) is murder according to Canadian law.

EDIT: on that note, I remember a question raise in my law course. Someone had hypothesized a situation where a man (potentially the father) would induce an abortion in a pregnant woman, either chemically or with the use of physical force. The question was "would the man be guilty of murder?". The answer given by the prof was that this was never tested in court, and when pressed further he was obviously uncomfortable with the topic. Not wishing this to happen to anyone, my curiosity regarding legal matters still makes me want to see something like this show up in court.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 15 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes. He'd be liable for murder. It's now covered by statute, as it was passed as part of a omnibus crime bill by Harper a few years ago.

[–]zyk0s 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I thought I had heard something about it. Do you know the text of the bill? Does it also apply to women who perform an abortion themselves (i.e. outside of a clinic)?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Apparently the bill to criminalize it C484 passed first reading in 2008, but the PM killed it shortly thereafter (even though it passed due to support from the opposition). The PM said that he had no intention of reopening the abortion debate (which the bill would potentially criminalize).

So, turns out I was wrong.

[–]zzing 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I remember from a basic highschool law course, that the idea was that a mother can be in a biologically induced depression.

[–]zyk0s 4 points5 points6 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Post partum. It's medically recognized for women, but barely for men (even with plenty of scientific evidence). That's the problem with all these psychological disorders: you can get a defense for any crime using something named in the DSM. But isn't committing any crime, by definition, caused by some psychological trauma? Isn't a man who kills his wife out of jealousy so emotionally affected by the love he had for the woman that it made him act irrationally? What about thieves, don't they either act out of compulsion, or are mentally compelled to do it because of their stressful lives?

All human behavior is to a point unique and therefore potentially pathological. It's one seamless continuum from sanity to insanity. Arguing depression in the case of infanticide is one step closer to complete legal unaccountability.

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