Angry Harry on the lack of large organizations for men

kloo2yoo · 2010-12-13T00:28:40+00:00

Often posters come to this subreddit (or flame us elsewhere). They do things like try to portray us as male-supremacists. So allow me to clear up a few issues there.

We are for equal rights for both genders. We are not male supremacists. We are not reactionaries. We don't want leave-it-to-beaver. Calling us that is just being purposely ridiculous.
Many women (even many feminists too) support most of our issues. You don't see judaism supporting nazis. You don't see the black panthers posting agreement with the KKK. Yet there are many women who support our seeking equal rights. According to everything in the recent news (voting rates, college graduation, property ownership, buying power, wages in cities) - it is not men who are even running the show. Women vote more than men, control more property, live longer, and graduate college more often - so who is really running the patriarchy?
If the backlash against even trying to argue that men need protection too is so severe that this subreddit gets hounded so often - then perhaps just consider that people are acting on reflex - that they have in fact been conditioned to not even allow our discussion to occur.
Yes, we are often anti-feminist. This is because we believe feminism lies by omissions when it claims to be fighting for equality for both genders. We believe that feminism only fights sexism against women but does not actually fight sexism against men, regardless of its claims to. To the skeptics - at some point, when women continue to gain and men do not - there must be a tipping point where women really do have undeniably more power than men. We believe that point has already been reached. Even if you do not, you must surely see that the point must exist somewhere. So ask yourself where that point is.

The reason it is so difficult for there be organizations for men is simple:

If it is a social club, feminists will sue for discrimination.
If it is a general interest, feminists will claim to need the help more.
If it is any form of male advocacy, feminists will call it a male-supremacy movement.

2010-12-13T03:49:10+00:00

The idea he presented of of the gender bias in reporting was a very interesting idea. Has there ever been a study on this exact topic with hard numbers to back up the author's claim? I'd like to use this idea in future debates/discussions with people that don't understand the MRA crowd. But I don't like to present ideas that aren't backed up.

tomek77 · 2010-12-12T23:59:36+00:00

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Title	Angry Harry on the lack of large organizations for men
Author	feministtheory
Upvotes	12
Comments	10
Date	December 12, 2010 11:56 PM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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