5 men cleared of rape after MSN chat logs prove the 'victim' was untrustworthy. The Judge summed up to the jury saying "Not to put too fine a point on it, her credibility was shot to pieces"

redditbannedmeagain · 2010-01-13T12:33:30+00:00

If they are innocent, why did the BBC feel it's necessary to name every single one of them, complete with an approximate address, while doing the right thing for the accuser and not publishing her name?

famouslastwords · 2010-01-13T13:49:45+00:00

Whenever I read "Not to put too fine a point on it" I immediately go into, "Say I'm the only bee in your bonnet! Make a little birdhouse in your soul."

ignatiusloyola · 2010-01-13T12:29:26+00:00

Cases like this are unfortunate. If the men did in fact rape the girl, her credibility shouldn't be an issue.

But when it comes down to he said/she said arguments, credibility becomes the winning evidence.

If the men didn't rape her, then it is a good thing that this happened.

PierceHarlan · 2010-01-13T14:59:02+00:00

Oh I guess it's alright then. One time, she said "I'd like the idea of group sex", so she obviously consented to a group of men having their way with her.

It's not the same thing. Did she consent, or did she not? That is the question that needs to be answered.

yahaya · 2010-01-13T15:00:59+00:00

I know this is Men's rights and everything, but I'll say it anyway: How does having group sex fantasies hurt your credibility when it comes to gang rape?

2010-01-14T20:05:46+00:00

That was a pretty badly-written story. When I first read it, I thought it was a woman allegedly raped by one man and I thought, "What do her sexual fantasies have to do with getting raped?". It took me 3/4s of the way into the story to discover she had accused multiple men and had not only fantasized about group sex but talked about actually planning group sex with strangers.

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