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r Feminism is taking it too fucking far

Nevix20

August 18, 2021

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Title	r Feminism is taking it too fucking far
Author	Nevix20
Upvotes	5
Comments	17
Date	August 18, 2021 5:16 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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[–]googitygig 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Listen, I'm no fan of feminism, but if you genuinely think that you seriously need to reconsider things.

Sure, i'd say a very small minority of feminists actively hate men but most don't. Using terms like eradicate and bloodlust is way overstepping.

They just prioritise womens rights over mens. I genuinely think most just overlook mens issues because they think we have it easy.

This is the problem with feminism imo. They prioritise womens rights over equal rights. But they aren't all inherently vindictive ar as evil as you make them out to be.

Edit: On the larger point of the original post. This newspaper headline is from a shitrag tabloid that just posts controversial headlines to appeal to braindead idiots. Just like The Sun newspaper. Best to just completely ignore.

Edit Edit: There is actually some research that suggests porn can actually be harmful. This shitrag newspaper is way overreaching trying to suggest it's why this atroocity occured but it's worth pointing out that it can be associated with some poor mental health issues. Look after yourselves lads.

[–]RockmanXX 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]googitygig 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'd argue the vast majority of feminists simply don't know that these feminist orgs do this. Like on the surface level, feminism sounds like a great idea. Equal rights for women, who could be against that? It's only when you look deeper into it and see how they lobby, like you pointed out that the feminism can sometimes be perfectly ok with inequity if it's women that benefit.

I had no idea they did until I had my son and realised I had zero rights to even see him. And that the reason that these sexist laws are kept in place is because of feminist lobbying.

It's our job to point out the damage and hurt sexist laws like this cause and who is responsible for these laws in a manner that doesn't automatically cause feminists to get their back up.

But we won't get a chance to do that if we start off the conversation by calling them vindictive and evil.

[–]RockmanXX 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Like on the surface level, feminism sounds like a great idea

Even on a surface level, Feminism claims that Men have oppressed Women for a millennia and hold privilege in Society and they say this ad nauseam, do you believe this is true? I don't.

I'd argue the vast majority of feminists simply don't know that these feminist orgs do this

I don't care about the majority of "Feminists" that don't even know what their own leaders do and just blindly support them. When i say "Feminists" i refer to the people making changes in media,culture&law.

But we won't get a chance to do that if we start off the conversation by calling them vindictive and evil.

Well, we don't stand a chance anyway! We're just some guys with a computer, they have billion dollar multinational organisations like the UN and the culture on their side. I'm just counting on Feminists to destroy themselves with male hatred, they only get more extremist with each passing year.

in a manner that doesn't automatically cause feminists to get their back up.

I'm all for being nice but i never encourage holding back on righteous anger, if there's gross injustice. You have all the right to be angry about it, in fact you SHOULD be. Why are feminists offended by MRAs? Is it because we want to prevent baby boy's genitals from being cut at birth? Is it because we want fathers to have custody of their children? Is it because we want specialized Mental Healthcare for Men to stop Male Suicides?

There's not a single reason for Feminists to be "Angry" at MRAs, unless they actually hate Men.

[–]googitygig 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

We have plenty of reason to be angry, I know this, but there's a way to deal with that anger.

It doesn't matter if that's what you mean when you say "feminists". People won't hear that distinction unless you explicitly say it. If someone who describes themselves as a feminist hears you talk negatively about feminists they will take it as a personal attack. You could have an excellent point but it will never be heard unless it's conveyed in a manner that people will actually listen to.

If you don't believe we have a chance then what are you doing even commenting? What are you hoping to achieve? I disagree, I think there's a chance of changing minds. Especially offline. It's all about how you present your information.

All the points you make are good ones. Feminists should take all those issues seriously. But they won't listen if they think we're attacking them, which is what the op was doing.

[–]RockmanXX 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

If someone who describes themselves as a feminist hears you talk negatively about feminists they will take it as a personal attack

I repeat, i DO NOT care about the people that blindly support something without doing any kind of research, such people are not worth my time and are best ignored.

I think there's a chance of changing minds

You are up against the Billion Dollar organizations that bankroll Feminism in Media&Education Systems, you can't hope to stop THAT. What will changing some cofeeshop yuppie's mind on Wage Gap do? They'll just go back to blindly supporting Feminism, talking to them is pointless because their support for Feminism is emotionally driven.

Feminists should take all those issues seriously

What do you mean by "Feminist"? I don't care about the views of some guy down the street that calls himself "Feminist". I want the Govt to care, i want the Education System to care but i'm not Elon Musk or George Soros, i can't strong arm those institutions and neither can you.