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If you don’t already know about Beau of the Fifth Column (aka Justin King) he is my personal favorite touchstone on this issue.

zyrkseas97

April 3, 2021
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Title If you don’t already know about Beau of the Fifth Column (aka Justin King) he is my personal favorite touchstone on this issue.
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zyrkseas97

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Date April 3, 2021 7:27 AM UTC
(5 years ago)
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Please check out Beau of the Fifth Column. He is one of my male role models and he is a wise man. I think it’s important, if this movement ever wants to be taken seriously, to avoid reactionary nonsense and stay grounded.

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April 3, 2021
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[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate[M] [score hidden] 5 years ago stickied comment (6 children) | Copy Link

Nope. This guy sends the wrong messages.

[–]Nath43673 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I've given this guy a few different views and I have to conclude that he doesn't work for me.

In particular, I think his messaging on masculinity is off.

eg. In the video about TM and the Gillette ad, he goes down the usual route of "if you didn't like it, you're toxic." Mocks those who complain. Holds up universal virtues as masculine attributes - thereby reinforcing masculinity as performative. "My 12-year-old is 'more of a man' than these guys" - yuck.

As for the style, his whole schtick rubs me the wrong way. I'm not American, but I feel like I'm being lectured by the kind of traditionally masculine guy that was totally alien to me growing up.

[–]zyrkseas97[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I see where you’re are coming from, but a few things. Beau is a distinctly American thing, as a non-American I wouldn’t expect you to really understand because he really is not aimed at a non-American audience.

His whole shtick is that he looks, walks and talks like a conservative and he posts his videos with vague headlines like “let’s talk about ____...” specifically because his whole thing is getting the most poisonous people to click on his videos thinking “oh yeah on of my people telling it like it is” only for him to dunk on their point of view.

He’s very distinctly American so I understand why this would be completely useless to someone without that social baggage and context.

[–]Nath43673 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'll accept that I might not connect with specific American cultural baggage, but I still think his approach to masculinity is unhelpful.

It's a big temptation among progressives to attempt to replace negative male gender expectations with what they see as positive ones. This often takes the form of universal virtues (at least as defined by the current left) combined with the reintroduction of selected parts of older masculine models; chivalry, selflessness, hard work, etc. In other words, one set of expectations for satisfactory performance as "a man" is replaced with another.

[–]zyrkseas97[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ironically I see the opposite in most leftist spaces, with the expectations for how to exhibit authentic masculinity entirely undefined and without direction. In fact, developing robust models of healthy masculinity is an important issue. In the same way that women have been crying out for “strong female role models” men are in desperate need for “healthy male role models” that aren’t literally fictional characters.

[–]Nath43673 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess I'd rather model myself off a number of fictional characters than off this guy - someone who defines masculinity as if it's some teenage Zen koan about coolness ("Wanting to be cool is not cool.")

[–]zyrkseas97[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This video playlist has just under 20 videos all about masculinity from a left leaning commentator who is ex private military contractor and security consultant turned journalist. He has a really level-headed take on these issues and models a really beautiful form of masculinity that I think has bipartisan appeal.

He also is great from a left wing perspective because he appeal to a lot of conservatives and I feel like he can flip a lot of them.

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