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A surprisingly positive article asking men to give blood, because ours is special

jmdenn3000

January 10, 2020
26 upvotes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-51047046
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Title A surprisingly positive article asking men to give blood, because ours is special
Author

jmdenn3000

Upvotes 26
Comments 17
Date January 10, 2020 5:18 PM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
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[–]jmdenn3000[S] 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Just thought i'd share this. I felt this could have easily shamed men but instead called on our better selves. Basicly, male blood has certian special qualities that make it medicly usefull. men giving blood saves lives when any non male blood won't. It's nice to be special for a good reason Edit: typos

[–]MickyDash 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

when they need something from us the shaming lets up, go figure... yeah, if anything, men should refuse to donate until misandry is addressed in a meaningful way

[–]thereslcjg2000left-wing male advocate 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good to know! I've considered giving blood many times, but haven't yet done it. I plan on it soon now.

[–]Halafax 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Meh.

I give regular blood donations. I’ve got pedestrian blood, but someone needs A+ and that’s more of the good stuff for rarer sorts. I think it’s important to support the community, I see donating blood the same way I see shopping locally, paying taxes fairly, and voting.

But I’m not a fan of the system. Every time I go in I get asked a raft of questions aimed at denying gay men the ability to donate. I’m not gay, but this is fucking rude and no longer appropriate. At this point, there is plenty of technology to let gay men donate, even if it requires an additional step.

I don’t like needles. I do like the occasional shirt I’m rewarded with. But 99% of my interest is just doing what I think I should. I assume some gay men feel the same.

I’m glad this person appreciates, but that doesn’t remove my frustration with the system. I urge everyone who can to donate blood, but I urge everyone who does to complain about the now-arbitrary exclusion.

[–]meringue-smooth 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I am a gay man who has benefitted from blood transfusions myself (ruptured stomach ulcer in my teens) and wanted to donate some blood by way of gratitude. I was so frustrated when I learned I was not permitted to donate.

Twenty years later, I've never had an STI or STD. I'm in a sexually safe, monogamous long-term relationship, so there's probably less risk attached to my blood than that of a promiscuous heterosexual man. And yet I am still forbidden from contributing. When I think about it, it disgusts me that this discrimination still exists. As far as I can tell, all blood should be screened anyway, so if that's the case what does it matter who donated that blood?

You're right. The system stinks.

[–]antilopes 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

As I understand it screening for HIV is expensive so it is done on bulk lots of blood. If there is a positive they have to throw out the whole amount. So it still makes sense to reduce the number of high risk people donating. Same as they turn away people in the sex industry (which includes people who have had sex when sex would not have occurred if drugs had not been on offer).

[–]meringue-smooth 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That does make sense, but universally considering all gay men to be "high-risk people" is what I take issue with. I refuse to accept that I present as much of a risk as a sex worker or someone who engages in drug-induced sexual activity.

Plenty of homosexual and bisexual people have very responsible sexual behaviours, so to discriminate based solely on sexual orientation (rather than sexual behaviour) is a problem.

[–]jmdenn3000[S] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I came out as bi last year do they also try and exclude us?

Edit typos

[–]Halafax 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I came out as bi last year do they also try and exclude us?

In the US, the questions are specifically about if you are a man who has had sex with other men. If yes, they don't want you to donate.

[–]jmdenn3000[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thankfully my inexperence helps me than

[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can get infected from impure thoughts too.

[–]excess_inquisitivity 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

NO.

the uk medical establishment demonizes men with the best of them.

UK circumcisions are down in number, but the option is still legal for cosmetic reasons, and the foreskins are still available on the market.

Men have the short end if the deal in marriage and in legal punishments for crimes.

The UK has no right to the average UK man's blood, and it's within his rights and proper judgement to withhold it until such time as the UK government shows him an amount of respect equal to that shown to the average UK woman.

[–]jmdenn3000[S] 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I would rather not cost people their lives over a moral point. I can't understand allowing others to die

[–]excess_inquisitivity -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's the way the world works, baby.

Someone might die if you do't give them free food from your personal kitchen. Whether you do so or not is up to you, but that decision will be impacted if the "hungry person" has promised they'll kick you in the teeth, wouldn't it?

[–]jmdenn3000[S] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I hardly believe the red cross is about to kick you in the teeth, i guess i just live by empathy a little more

[–]excess_inquisitivity 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thr Red Cross here argues for discrimination against men in disaster relief, such as food, clothing, and shelter distribution. Preferential treatment for YOU means discrimination against ME, with the added demand that I remain polite and kind while my life sustaining resources are stolen and diverted under the guise of kindness.

http://www.un.org/webcast/csw2005/statements/050307red-cross-e.pdf

[–]jmdenn3000[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah i can see how thats objectionable

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