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UK: Graffiti artist, 18, killed himself in woodland just weeks after 'chance meeting' with accuser

furchfur

October 12, 2021
73 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10083831/Graffiti-artist-18-killed-woodland-just-weeks-chance-meeting-accuser.html
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Title UK: Graffiti artist, 18, killed himself in woodland just weeks after 'chance meeting' with accuser
Author

furchfur

Upvotes 73
Comments 39
Date October 12, 2021 4:01 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/q6petq/uk_graffiti_artist_18_killed_himself_in_woodland/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/uk-graffiti-artist-18-killed-himself-in-woodland.1079918
https://theredarchive.com/post/1079918
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Comments

[–]Asrealasrealcanbe 30 points31 points32 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

young man discovers world is full of injustices. struggles with this new world view, kills himself.. i dont blame you bro im tired too. R.I.P

[–]scullnomad 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This fine young female made the perfect crime.

[–]newyorkloser45 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

YASS QWEEN YOU DROVE A MAN TO SUICIDE!! GREAT DISPLAY OF THE EMPATHETIC GENDER AT WORK HERE!!

[–]bfte2 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm 100% confident Reddit and Twitter were fisting air while yelling YASSS KWEEN when they read this.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (35 children) | Copy Link

Sad story false accusers should pay the price...

[–]BrunoBashYa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (34 children) | Copy Link

Did I miss where it was confirmed as a false accusation? I think it's dangerous to throw that kind of thing around without proof

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (23 children) | Copy Link

You're right. This is tagged as false accusation, so I thought it was just another false accusation, but after reading the article again, this case is not concluded yet.

However, I saw your comment calling babies parasites. You're just one of those disgusting feminist haters. Before you try to fix others, fix your problem first, hater.

[–]BrunoBashYa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

I was just being colourful with my language. I don't have time for "pro-lifers at the best of times, and when that is mixed with someone complaining about it being illegal to not use a condom without consent it get pretty angry.

Do you find it concerning you immediately assumed it was a case of a false accusation because other people here were? This sub is very sensitive and reactionary. This place is definitely an echo chamber and I'd always advise to check the info before following their conclusions

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

I was just being colourful with my language. I don't have time for "pro-lifers at the best of times, and when that is mixed with someone complaining about it being illegal to not use a condom without consent it get pretty angry.----> Still, you shouldn't use hateful language if you wanna convince others.

This place is definitely an echo chamber----> Can you say the same thing in feminist subreddits? This is a problem that this kind of social activist groups always have. Feminists assume men are always at fault (they often blame men even when that's not the case), and it is very natural for a few MRAs to do the exactly same thing. It's not good, but any kinds of group have this kind of group mentality. You should be able to criticize hateful feminist subs such as 2xchromosomes, feminist subreddit, and FDS.

[–]BrunoBashYa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

There are things on those subs that I strongly disagree, things I think are problematic or a just overblown complaints.

Seriously though, go onto r/feminism and read the most popular posts. Find me anything as vitriolic as what you find here.

It's not just the posts on here that I see as being issues (there are some good posts). It's the comments. So many awful and incorrect things being said without anyone pushing back. Are you all too scared to disagree with each other?

No joke, I just responded to a comment on a post about a guy that was released from prison after like 30 years after it was proven he didn't do it and the evidence was shit. He was convicted of rape and murder.

The comment on the post was accusing the victim of a false accusations...... You know...... The murder victim... That was dead.....

That comment had been upvoted

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Seriously though, go onto r/feminism and read the most popular posts. Find me anything as vitriolic as what you find here.---> I've been to that sub, and they did not criticize and even supported Valerie Solanas, who tried to kill Andy Warhol just because he was a man. And then they immediately said where is the evidence she is a feminist, denying any kinds of harm that feminists or women caused to men. Nobody criticized her, instead they defended her saying she is less evil than Hitler. They are just hateful feminists with their own confirmation bias. Also, no need to talk about FDS or 2xchromosomes.

It's the comments. So many awful and incorrect things being said without anyone pushing back. Are you all too scared to disagree with each other?-----> There are tons of trolls who try to just mock commenters, or people who wanna genuinely talk to MRAs. We talk with each other, and I have often been refuted by MRAs here. We disagree with each other.

No joke, I just responded to a comment on a post about a guy that was released from prison after like 30 years after it was proven he didn't do it and the evidence was shit. He was convicted of rape and murder. The comment on the post was accusing the victim of a false accusations...... You know...... The murder victim... That was dead.....-----> link please

[–]BrunoBashYa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

On my phone..... And on a train with bad reception. Look through my comment history and you should find it pretty easy.

I tried finding the posts about the Valerie solanas lady you mentioned on r/feminism and only found a post suggesting finding commonalities with this sub that seemed way more forgiving than me lol. I'm sure there were arseholes in the comments somewhere and I'm sure you didn't make it up, just found it funny.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

https://amp.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/8se5t5/at_the_risk_of_coming_across_as_a_troll_what_are/

It was askfeminist subreddit

[–]BrunoBashYa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I didn't really see any vitriol there. Nothing I would compare to blindly assuming a woman lied about rape simply based on the fact the guy she accused killed himself.

All the comments I read seemed to agree her work was problematic

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sorry for misinformation

[–]BrunoBashYa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All good. As I said,I don't doubt you can point to bad feminists, I'm mostly just trying to contrast how much more aggressive this sub is

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Also, you are dodging a question about FDS and 2Xchromosomes on purpose.

[–]BrunoBashYa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I honestly don't see a comparison with 2xchromosomes. What is FDS?

[–]BrunoBashYa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Florida man exonerated after 37 years in prison sues Tampa, retired police over wrongful conviction https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/q5tn73/florida_man_exonerated_after_37_years_in_prison/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah his/ or whatever gender comment looks inappropriate. Also we need to check the justice system to not make innocent victims or falsely accused people sent to jail.

[–]BrunoBashYa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed.

Also, that comment has more upvoted now than when I pointed out how fucked his comment was. I'm honestly shocked I wasn't downvoted.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

You should watch out your mouth and choose words carefully if you want to change people's mind. Right now, I only feel hostility from you, not one piece of genuine heart. Nobody would wanna talk with a hateful feminist. But I would at least admit that there's not enough evidence to conclude this was a false accusation.

[–]BrunoBashYa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I don't care about changing minds. I am challenging attitudes and conclusions.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Then you're trying to change people's mind. Changing attitudes and conclusions is Changing minds.

[–]BrunoBashYa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

CHALLENGING.

You know, like pushing back against someone asserting their opinion.

The goal isn't to have them say "ohhh. Yeah. You are totes correct mate. You are so cool"

The goal is to get people to justify what I think is a shitty opinion.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Okay. but at least use a right word. Instead of using hateful ones.

[–]BrunoBashYa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Just google "is a foetus a parasite"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Okay, you're just a crazy hater if you believe babies are that. Biblically, babies are presents from God, and even if you're not a Christian, saying babies that is extremely crazy and hateful. Any animals have babies in their body except some. If you seriously believe they just carry that, then you are just another hateful feminist. Let's just leave it at that we have very different opinions.

[–]BrunoBashYa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm not a Christian. I am pro choice. Babies are great but people shouldn't be forced to have them

[–]IronJohnMRA 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I want her name.

[–]Dogrose22 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

RIP x

[–]tisandv 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Very sad story, and of course the lying accuser gets off and their anonymity is protected. We hear endless stories about violence against women, stories which change national policy, and yet it seems that this poor young man will just be forgotten and no lessons will be learned.

[+]TheRabid -25 points-24 points-23 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This is terrible. On the plus side, it could also have been worse (ie murder suicide).

[–]jacksleepshere 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah thank god he killed himself and not others too. I can sleep easy knowing he commit suicide now. What a remorseless comment.

[–]TheRabid -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I said it was terrible, no? I can’t imagine how his parents and friends feel. Would it have been better if he killed the woman who accused him before killing himself? Wouldn’t this hurt more people?

[+][deleted] 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]TheRabid 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There was a time when I would have wanted that person to hurt those who hurt him and their relatives and everything that they loved.

However, over the years, I find that thinking as not very helpful and put me in a terrible mood as it would put me in a worse mood than if they just killed themselves.

If a person killed themselves, then I’m saddened for that person and the relatives of that person. If that person killed themselves and others, then the people that I feel sad for grows.

There is one exception to this thinking process. If that person was my son, then I’m afraid that I’d be a hypocrite and want to hurt those people.

[–]roms131 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

natural selection these days...

[–]PhillipZimbargo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How so?

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