Are Muslims Alpha?

stickfiguresk · 2016-07-17T19:23:48+00:00

Middle eastern culture(i.e. islam) is like TRP, but with horrible control issues and some spiritual shit thrown in. Replace the word, "next" with "honor kill", and toss in some singing/yelling and some tramendous insecurity in one of our threads and you'd basically have a candid muslim conversation. Actually, now that I think about it, it has more in common with the men's rights movement than TRP.

It's BP, but masculine centered. I say BP because RP doesn't seek to control anyone, except ourselves and who we allow in our space. Middle eastern culture(islam) wants world domination.

wade2634 · 2016-07-17T16:56:13+00:00

I don't know the answer but I'd definitely like to find out too. I have always thought something similar to this. Muslims seem to be alpha over their own wives by being in control, and severely restrict their wives ability to practice hypergamy. They have nothing to market themselves to other alphas in the community with because of their strict sexual conservatism.

Borsao66 · 2016-07-17T17:37:38+00:00

In my interactions with the Muslim community, I don't see the men as being any more "alpha" than any other community.

What I DO see is a community that is willing to mete out harsh punishment for women acting on their hypergameous instincts.

Tread carefully with that statement insofar that you need to realize it's not the individual keeping his "hoes in check" as it is group-think doing so. Too many casual observers substitute one for the other.

Ideally it would be a mix of both attributes. The man forming the first line of hypergamy check and his society forming the second.

Redpillers work too exclusively from the first expecting results (which can be had) and religious groups work too exclusively from the second. An ideal marriage 1.0 world needs both.

WeedDaddy · 2016-07-17T23:33:54+00:00

In the West, they often are alpha because they are protected by the Establishment and Westerners are often afraid to stand up against them because they are punished extra-harshly for "racist crimes". Westerners are also educated into avoiding violence and surrendering their place and walking away.

Some guys here think that the alpha is essentially a male model or movie star whom women want for his looks or popularity. The prettiest man is the most alpha.

I favor the alpha definition of controlling others with physical violence. Usually, you need a group for that, and as such men act more alpha when they have a gang backing them up. Muslims also have better access to weapons than your average law-abiding European.

There's also the economic alpha, who has inherited money and can found a factory and submit poor men into workers in it.

brooklynisburnin · 2016-07-17T17:00:40+00:00

I personally don't think that anyone who really follows religion or worships any sort of god is alpha, faith just seems to me like an easy way of not having to deal with the biggest shits life can take on you.

I believe in me and what I am worth.

50pluspiller · 2016-07-17T17:33:14+00:00

If you're getting the idea that they are alpha from what you are reading in the media (ISIS) then you are really wrong because they are getting their pussy at the end of a gun barrel or the edge of a sword.

AFPJ · 2016-07-17T17:30:52+00:00

They're fucking barbaric - this is from first hand experience. These "people" are ruled by dogmatic fear and engage in watch-hunts targeting even their own regularly. They'll rape a girl, stone hear to death, cut off the hands of someone just because they do not share their faith & then have the gall to beg for their lives believing they are the righteous.

Long story short, true traits of any people are multiplied exponentially & laid bare for all to see in places filled only by their kind - this is true for everyone. Finland, Greenland, Japan, China, India, you name it - also Turkey and Pakistan.

Like every other frenzied mob, they're comprised of mindless cowards. This is their "culture". There's nothing "Alpha" or "Beta" about any of it - those are terms for a social hierarchy with at least a modicum of order, which theirs isn't.

Ivabighairy1 · 2016-07-17T19:15:02+00:00

No.

Muslims are afraid of women, that's why they suppress them.

Alpha's? They don't give a fuck about women.

Fuknmods · 2016-07-17T17:26:25+00:00

It really depends on the person. Ive met some arab men who come to the US and cant even get a handjob due to how beta they are (i know an iranian who lent his fucking mercedes benz to a chick he wanted to bang, she rewarded him with 9 tickets in 2 days, he paid them all).

Some muslim men are full on "women are there to be my slaves" and get tons of pussy as a result. Its all variable and as usual depends on the individual woman and man.

zedsdedforever · 2016-07-17T19:32:04+00:00

Read about the qandeel-baloch case.

sierratangovictor · 2016-07-18T05:42:04+00:00

Being Alpha is contextual.
Many, if not all, women look for certain traits that they perceive as Alpha.
Muslim countries, in the Levante, have a I don't care attitude to everything. They also have an attitude which to me seems like this: "I don't need to improve myself, I don't need to work hard to make an impact to anything, I have money, lets feast on a camel." They can very efficiently radiate this attitude. Even the refugees, under the threat of losing their country etc- keeps on sporting their best cloths, expensive gadgets, etc (and that's what pisses people off - that they really don't give a fuck to a situation which they want others to take seriously)
The later attitude signals plentifulness and satisfaction.
Women, at least in Germany, tends to please those kind of people, to get access to his (fake) plentifulness.

MarbusBrick · 2016-07-17T17:52:50+00:00

It has something about the syaria, Muslim men are not alpha, but Islam really require for Muslim men to become one. There's a status for "weak" men, which is "Dayus" (I don't know how to spell it to the right pronunctiation, maybe "Da-Yoos). Dayus is simply a status when a man can't/don't control his wife or daughter.

A father is responsible for his daughter, no matter how old she is. A brother is responsible for his sister(s), no matter how old she is. A father or brother is sinned if they allow their women to sin.

I believe you've heard the word "haraam" right? It's kinda haraam for wife to disobey husband, even if it's for some religious activity like fasting, the wife must have permission from the husband.

Then, there's the divorce rule. Only the husband have the right for divorce. Meaning the wife can't divorce the husband, only the husband can divorce the wife.

Also, the wealth division, or heritage system is quite different, it's not 50/50, but I don't know much about it.

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But I think, many traditional systems/culture require men to become alpha, not just Islam. Traditional value require men to become the leader. Of course. Feminism have something to do that destroys many traditional culture of men women dynamic. Feminism insist on wife and husband are equal

Title	Are Muslims Alpha?
Author	Qwertyniggardly
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Date	July 17, 2016 4:43 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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