[Re-post] Explaining the Red Pill (for all the new subscribers)

/u/blazingblue16 said it in a succinct manner 3 months ago and it still applies now

This sub really needs to sticky quality answers for women or men who come here just to be like "I'm a woman!" "I'm new!" "Answer my questions since I am confused and haven't read the side bar nor took the time to think about anything presented in the side bar..."

Understanding the Red Pill (Part 1)

Article - http://illimitablemen.com/2013/10/27/dissecting-the-red-pill/

Understanding the Red Pill (Part 2)

Article - http://illimitablemen.com/2013/11/10/dissecting-the-red-pill-part-2-q-and-a/

Original Reddit Post of Part 2: /r/TheRedPill/comments/1pw1da/i_am_somewhat_confused_about_trp_and_how_it_views/cd6o7le

If you have any further questions or contentions to make, feel free to do so here, or if you're so recently subscribed you can't post yet send me a PM and I'll get back to you. I'm sure any other endorsed contributors who drop in here will do their best to assist you too.

Best of luck everyone, we're all gonna make it.

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[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan[S] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Why call this sub "The Red Pill", a name that is a reference to a movie where a man becomes enlightened and converted from ignorance, if you don't care about the unconverted?

I like many of us don't care about those who have been exposed to the red pill and still hold onto their old ideals. Simply put we think those kinds of people are idiots because not even the truth is enough to bitch slap them into reality. Especially the more privileged amongst you, you need someone to really fuck you over before you actually wake the fuck up.

We are here to get ours, to discuss sexual strategy and self improve with like-minded souls. Those who just question and second guess the sub contribute nothing of value, its an engagement of nothing but meta politics which reduces the signal. This is not a democracy, we are not accountable to you - we don't have to prove anything to you - you have no power over us, asking us to proves ourselves to you assumes we care about your opinion in the first place, here's a fucking tip: no fucks are getting given.

Like this discussion now, it actually contributes nothing to those who are already red pill, ironically it would appeal more to those who are on the fence who I/most of us frankly give no fucks about. Moaning about peoples perceived misogyny won't help you get a job, it won't help you with women, it won't help you feel better about yourself, it's just explaining to a guy what the red pill is about because he's asked. Like I said, it's time consuming, it's a service to "your concern" but a liability to the rest of the sub as ultimately it's not productive or helping to move the philosophy forward, it's a defence of the philosophy that can referenced by others in the future at best. I and other redpillers gain nothing whether you or the next guy decides to believe in the red pill, no money is made, there is no incentive at all to help you, we're here to help ourselves you're either with us or without us, but we don't care which one you choose, what we do care about is people who AREN'T with us, claim they ARE and then bitch about what we do. Snakes.

Don't get it twisted, this is not a social movement. We have nothing to prove to you, neither do we wish to qualify our beliefs to you. We know this shit works and we enjoy the fruits of it, you can choose to do that or you cannot - the choice is ultimately yours, but why I should give a fuck whether you believe in it or not? That's not my problem, that's yours - if you decide to go on living the life you led, fine do that it's no skin off my nose.

On the topic of misogyny, and rarely will I even address such a socially charged, misrepresenting politically feminist buzzword dripping in lesbian estrogen and bullshit used to shut up legitimate concerns that even more moderate members have:

Yeah some guys are bitter because they have been severely fucked over, that will make them seem misogynous or even be misogynous for a time. So the fuck what? That's their right. This is a sub for men, not women. Men want to talk shit about women, that's up to them, don't try to police it. Reminds me of the typical woman entering an all men's workplace such as a mine and expecting all the men to change around her because she's the special little snowflake that's just turned up and everyone needs to tone down their language and change especially for her. No, fuck that. That environment wasn't meant for her, it's a man's space and so is the red pill. If women stumble up in here and get offended, we don't give a shit, this place wasn't meant for them, /r/redpillwomen is. Women love to invade male spaces and feminise them into abiding gynocratic institutions, but that's another topic altogether, I digress.

Don't deny men the right to reconcile their pain with their desire to improve, ultimately they will overcome their pain but its a long process. Concerns about this are substantiated but devoid of merit, it's a natural process of the "unplugging" depending on where you came from. Obviously a 15 year old unplugging is going to unplug differently than a 38 year old divorcee who was raped for child support. The 38 year old in his recovery may post shit that is more misogynist in nature because it comes from a place of pain and he is not at the acceptance stage of accepting women, in all their limited capacity for who they really are, with all the evils included. It can be a slow, arduous process for some and those people need this place more than anyone. Cutting off their support network because it offends the delicate sensibilities of the already privileged is perversely preposterous, and I scoff at such notions in an upper class quintessentially English manner. Concentrate on yourself instead of bitching about other peoples mind states, that's not your concern and if you make it your concern you will find yourself banned from the sub for reducing the signal with mindless politics.

Moaning about the sub and contributing nothing but "concern" instead of actual valid strategies, stories and theories is a quick way to make sure you're out of here.

By the way the use of the word "you" is not YOU per se, but anyone who falls under what I'm saying. I use the word YOU so it hits home harder, I'm tapping into your selfishness so you feel the tenacity of the message.

Unless you raise a particularly valid point I will not waste anymore time engaging in this line of discourse, I've given you enough to grapple with already.

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Despite the tone, venomous is not the intention. I speak with aggressive candidness, little if anything I said was incorrect. I generally don't give a fuck about how other people feel, if I offered you an apology for being offensive to your sensibilities, I'd be being insincere. I shan't be so dishonourable as to condescend you in such a manner. To be sincere, I hope you detracted some value from that post. Many of us are tired of repeating the same shit over and over and we have no personal responsibility to ensure you better yourself. Read the sidebar. We did the hard work to understand shit by ourselves so you have to. I did when I was new, I read a lot of rationalmale and all of the sidebar. I didn't just start asking questions left, right and center - educate yourself with the resources available to you. The worst thing is when people who don't know shit act entitled and demand answers, we really owe you nothing at all.

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Title	[Re-post] Explaining the Red Pill (for all the new subscribers)
Author	IllimitableMan
Upvotes	56
Comments	10
Date	February 7, 2014 10:20 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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