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Müge Demirkir, human rights lawyer and gender equality specialist will be talking about the Istanbul Convention. What are the issues and will a more gender neutral approach be the way forward?

RockViolinist

April 6, 2022

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Title	Müge Demirkir, human rights lawyer and gender equality specialist will be talking about the Istanbul Convention. What are the issues and will a more gender neutral approach be the way forward?
Author	RockViolinist
Upvotes	3
Comments	7
Date	April 6, 2022 6:30 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/txstq5/müge_demirkir_human_rights_lawyer_and_gender/
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[–]SamaelET 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

You are such a misandrist buying into feminist narrative. If only men stopped being stupid by doing risky things and not talking about others. They would not kill themselves so much or be victims of violence ahaha.

Men kill themselves more and are more likely to be victims of crimes because they are not as privileged as women are : men are the vast majority of rough sleepers, of those loosing their children after divorce, of those working in straining job. They are punished harsher than women by the justice system for the same crimes and are not given the same level of support and care during prison time. Male victims of domestic and sexual abuse by women are arrested and never get justice.

Do your also talk about the emancipation of black people if they want to stop being victims of violence ?

It is not because they do risky things to impress other or because they don't talk about their issues. 91% of male who killes themselves talked with an health worker.

Maybe I should go around saying that women would not have anorexia if they simply stopped looking up at hollywood starts' movies ? Maybe I should go around saying that women would not do most of childcare and chore in their marriage if only they talked about it with their husband ? Or that they would not be stared at or get catcalled if they simply wore more clothes ? I would be called a misogynist not understanding the incredible challenges that a woman feels when think about talking to her husband about chores. But saying that depressed men with issues in their lives simply need to talk to others to stop killing themselves instead of being stubborn is totally ok.

The Istanbul convention, a treaty by Europe' Council on Violence Against WOMEN, and rarely mentioning men in their text, also protect men ? How old do you think we are ? We have seen this discourse in every countries who push a Strategy for "Violence Against Women" (almost all countries).

[–]RockViolinist 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link