Tradcon National Review - no to the women draft, again

DirtyPartyMan · 2022-06-17T02:50:09+00:00

Equal rights should mean equal responsibility

McFeely_Smackup · 2022-06-17T03:16:23+00:00

So why force women to register for conscripted military combat, over their consistently expressed opposition?

Consider for a moment, that an adult actually wrote those words.

Women don't want to be drafted, so why would we?

The inescapable implication is that he believes men WANT to be drafted.

This kind of idiocy transcends politics, this is clinical.

happyness423 · 2022-06-17T04:36:12+00:00

Maybe equality could be NO draft.

2022-06-17T07:31:43+00:00

No single human should be drafted. I fucking hate authoritarians playing with civilians lives.

Aimless-Nomad · 2022-06-17T09:53:07+00:00

Nothing new. Been happening since the White Feather campaign.

An old comment i wrote:

Women are happy to send men to their deaths in war while they themselves flee

It started with this despicable woman who was the forefront of the movement that shamed men to go die in war

Male shaming and suicide was so bad during WW1 that the United Kingdom had to create the Silver War Badge so feminists would leave men alone and that idea was revived for WW2 with the King's Badge.

It was common for men who had been given the White Feather by feminists in the First World War to either kill themselves through shame, or else to immediately sign up and face probable death, even if they were suffering from genuine disability, had already fought and been traumatized, or even if they were underage children.

A quote from the lady herself:

There are people who say ‘What right have women to talk to men about fighting for their country?’ since women are not according to the custom of civilization, called upon to fight. That used to be said to us in times of peace. Certainly, women have the right to say to men ‘Are you going to fight to defend your country and redeem your promise to women?’. The least that men can do, is that every man of fighting age should prepare himself, to redeem his word to women and to make ready to do his best to save the mothers, the wives, and the daughters of Great Britain from outrage too horrible even to think off. What bitterness there was in the hearts of many women when they saw work and business going on as usual, carried on by men who ought to be in the fighting line.

- Emmeline Pankhurst

more than one million men died in world war one.

And since then

Nothing really has changed. Women are still draft dodging cowards but full on expect men to die for them.

This is modern times, women voting for men to die

And here #iwontgo (but send the men to their fucking deaths)

And here (women sacrifice more my ass)

And finally ukraine

Again ukraine (courageous cowards)

This one below is messed up

On the left : Ukrainian women who fled the war, left the men behind and made Tinder accounts in a new country. On the right : men who died to protect Ukraine.

prilexx · 2022-06-17T21:31:17+00:00

Here is my issue. I believe only men should be drafted for the army but if you are going to lower the minimum required scores, put in place some form of quotas etc. then draft them.

I don't believe we are nor that we ever will be equal but to propose that women have rights to be equal in everything good men have but in nothing bad is such a bullshit. Both genders in normal countries (thankfully I live in still normal parts of Europe) have pros and cons. The point of having the ability to have a certain benefit is that you balance it out with some fucked up shit you gotta deal with.

Like y'all want equality in job possibilities when it comes to becoming manager but not one single woman wants that same equality when it comes to fixing high voltage powerlines, picking up garbage or as one famous Dr. likes to give as an example, becoming a bricklayer. (guess which Dr.)
Y'all want to have every man in jail for accused rape but hate it when anyone brings up how much money women get as bonuses for anything and everything, when someone mentions that most of divorce settlement are in favour of women. Y'all want to be perceived as an equally strong gender but still hate it when drafting is in question, defending a home, and not a single one will ever say something against "women and kids first" when evacuations happen... To be honest this last quote is false, it's usually "women and kids first, then dogs, then cats, then monkeys, then ants, then worms, then flys and mosquitoes... Myb at the end men too, we shall see".

The funny thing is that many modern day philosophical thinkers believed that we lived in utopia because we had a near perfect balance of good and evil but we... Better to say some groups really had to ruin it all huh?

For those who are not into psychology and sociology, basically the idea is that we had around 10 years ago very good balance of good and evil and idea is that if you don't have that balance there is no good nor evil. Everything becomes very monotone and you have no way to value good and dislike bad since you can't even tell them apart. And a perfect amount is described that way because we had very few wars, tension between countries was relatively low and homelessness and crime rates were as well very low or under control. Median salary wasn't too bad nor too good either. Unfortunately I forgot what books were covering this and I'm too lazy to go through my bookshelf and every book about society to figure it out. There was some video on yt on this topic that I've seen like 1-2 years ago.

JannTosh12 · 2022-06-17T01:10:02+00:00

Comment on any of these articles if you can

JannTosh12 · 2022-06-17T01:24:43+00:00

If you are on twitter, please be active in getting the attention of the NCFM and helping the NCFM not be drowned out by traditionalists though interacting with these accounts and helping them with their efforts in getting rid of male only conscription: https://twitter.com/mensadvocate https://twitter.com/NCFM_Women https://twitter.com/NCFMCarolinas

pappo4ever · 2022-06-17T03:49:57+00:00

It's fair to draft women, problem is, that it's useless. Women only obstruct men in battle. Its literally more useful to draft 14 year old kids. There are plenty of non-battle jobs in the military, and I think those are already covered by women.

enigmadissassociate · 2022-06-17T11:28:04+00:00

Women can serve in the military without being a fire squad

Title	Tradcon National Review - no to the women draft, again
Author	JannTosh12
Upvotes	42
Comments	48
Date	June 17, 2022 1:09 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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