If a man wants to get married, have a family, isn't it in his best option to settle into an LTR rather early in his life?

PinkfloydPurplefloyd · 2014-02-12T03:39:27+00:00

Yes in theory but a key variable here is the woman's background. These days young women are encouraged to 'find themself' and 'explore' (aka enjoy alpha semen) for as long as they can - not marry and raise children.

dropit_sphere · 2014-02-12T04:35:13+00:00

Well, uh, duh. If this works out for you, more power to you.

Why do you think this sub exists? Hint: it is not because men suddenly decided that your described scenario is a bad idea.

aresta · 2014-02-12T04:39:14+00:00

Nope. Sorry, but nope.

Women with an ounce of shrewdness can spot potential winners early on. These are guys that come from relatively propserous families (they actually come from intact, stable families) do well in college, major in something practical, and are well-rounded in terms of social skills and physical appeal.

Just because a woman marries you before you realize a million doesn't mean she wasn't motivated by money to begin with.

Your parents grew up in a different era. Things are completely different now.

My parents met when they were in their mid-twenties. They were both told they would "never" get married because people were getting married even earlier and it was the 60's-70's! My grandparents had gotten married right out of high-school.

Part of what keeps people from getting married these days is arrested development. People are encouraged to pursue all manner of inane selfish pursuits that lead nowhere.

-Tyler_Durden- · 2014-02-12T11:21:49+00:00

A woman should get married before she hits 25 if she wants to give birth to a couple of children. 30 years old is an inflection point regarding the quality of her eggs, overall fertility, and the chance of birth defects. Most men do not have this problem and do not experience fertility issues until he is well into his 40s. It must be noted though that this decline is gradual, unlike a woman's exponential decline. (There's one anecdotal study which uses flawed methodology that implied a higher chance of birth defects for older fathers.) The rates of birth defects vs the age of the mother has been widely studied and is of scientific fact. 1 2 3

Men on the other hand shouldn't even consider getting married until they are established and can financially handle the responsibility. Getting married and staying married is expensive. If a man wants to have a traditional family and raise children then marriage may be considered. However, no matter the man's age, if his goal is procreation then he should consider courting an 18 to 24 year old; the science doesn't lie in this regard as these are the most fertile years for a woman. It is only in recent history where this has been a US cultural taboo. 4 5

Also, "For men, the findings regarding the age gap to the spouse are relatively consistent: namely, that male mortality increases when the wife is older and decreases when the wife is younger."

Finally, the wall is usually defined as 30 years old; three generations ago the wall was 24; has human biology magically changed in the last century?

However, even after considering the above, IMO: Marriage, not even once.

2014-02-12T10:54:58+00:00

Why do you want to get married in the first place?

Women are not loyal. Forget about that. They are subject to their emotions. You stop giving her the feels and it's over. Full stop. Loyalty has nothing to do with it. You can have a family without a legal agreement that screws you when you guys part ways. Cohabitate if you must.. But don't willingly put your neck out, especially considering that you gain nothing from the agreement.

2014-02-12T05:58:06+00:00

I like where the idea is going but have to disagree. Part of growing up is sowing your oats or getting plowed to find what you like. Limiting your experiences early comes at a cost. Only once youve figured out what you like should you settle down. You at 18 will be a different being from you at 25 wholl likely be pretty much the you at 35

The flipside of this is not to give up and slut it up until youre ready to get married. Test yourself and get into relationships to see what you do like.

semigod__ · 2014-02-12T09:38:39+00:00

As men age their options too become older as well.

and this is exactly what young women think, which leads to have no fear of the wall. but its actually not true - as men age, they have more options.

2014-02-12T11:10:31+00:00

I think not. Easier when both are just around 30 when they both are wiser and more experienced and less selfish. A family works better when you both are already conscious of death and thus focus not on your own individual person but on the family/kids.

Young people tend to be more selfish. They have high sex drives, high libidos, makes them focus on their own self.

Of course by more experienced I don't mean she ate over 9000 dicks, I mean she had some LTR's too and has an improved view of what realistically to expect, what to give, what matters for happiness what not and so on. So just wiser, got down from that princess who deserves a prince trip.

robesta · 2014-02-12T16:18:48+00:00

Getting married early is no guarantee of anything. It's like selling your tech ipo for 20 mil instead of holding out for 3 billion a few years later.

I married at 23. Had kids a short time later. Didn't stop her hypergamy bug after the second kid. I think my blue pill mentality made it easier for it to happen.

The most important things are that you get a quality woman and you don't turn off the red pill aspects of your relationship.

Title	If a man wants to get married, have a family, isn't it in his best option to settle into an LTR rather early in his life?
Author	aresta
Upvotes	2
Comments	23
Date	February 12, 2014 3:29 AM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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